Commentary on Romans 8.26–9.15
Latin text: Migne, PL 17 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 8
8.26PL 17:125–127
Similiter autem et spiritus adjuvat infirmitatem nostræ orationis. Quoniam superius ingemiscere nos, et precari liberationem memoravit, et in dolore positi, aut quæ longe futura dicta sunt, mox fleri volumus, aut cito tulli, per quæ ad meritum perveniamus ; et videmur imbecilla oratione precari, dum illi denegatur effectus. Infirma est enim, qui contra rationem postulat : ac per hoc infirmitatem hanc a sancto Spiritu dato nobis adjuvari ostendit. Adjuvat autem, quia quæ autante petuntur, quam peti debeant, aut sunt contraria, non sinit fieri. Nom quid oremus sicut oportet, nescimus. Infirmi. tatem orationis nostræ ignorantiam significare declaravit; fallimur enim putantes prodesse quæ poscimus, cum nou prosint. Denique eidem Apostolo tertio deprecanti, ut tentationes ab eo cessarent, quia crebræ erant, dictum a Domino est : Sufficit tibi gratia mea ; nam virtus in infirmitate perficitur (II Cor. XII, 9), id est, sic meritum quis collocat, dum in tribulationibus patiens invenitur. Didicit ergo contra se esse quod petebat. Est et aliquando superba et stulta petitio, sicut fuit duorum apostolorum Jacobi et Joannis, quibus incongrua et immensa petentibus dictum est: Nescitis quid petatis (Matth. xx, 22). Sed ipse Spiritus postulat pro nobis gemitibus inenarrabilibus. Non humanis eloquiis postulare pro nobis dicitur Spiritus Domini, sed more naturæ suae. Cum enim quod de Deo est, Deo loquitur ; eo more loquatur necesse est, quo ille loquitur, de quo est. Nemo enim cum cive suo a alia lingua loquitur. Superfundit enim se precibus nostris Spiritus datus nobis ; ut imperitiam, et improvidentiam nostram motu suo operiat; et illa nobis a Deo petat, quæ prosint nobis.
“Likewise the Spirit too helps the weakness of our prayer.” Since above he mentioned that we groan and pray for liberation, and, placed in pain, we either want things said to be far in the future to happen soon, or the things through which we come to merit to be taken away quickly; and we seem to pray with a weak prayer, when its effect is denied. For he who asks against reason is weak; and therefore he shows that this weakness is helped by the Holy Spirit given to us. He helps by not allowing things to happen which are asked before they ought to be asked, or which are contrary. “For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought.” He declared that the weakness of our prayer signifies ignorance; for we are deceived, thinking that what we ask will profit, when it does not. Indeed to the same apostle, when he prayed three times that his temptations might cease, because they were frequent, it was said by the Lord: “My grace is sufficient for you; for power is made perfect in weakness” (2 Cor 12:9); that is, one lays up merit in this way, when one is found patient in tribulations. He learned, then, that what he asked was against him. And sometimes the petition is proud and foolish, as was that of the two apostles James and John, to whom, asking unfitting and immense things, it was said: “You do not know what you ask” (Matt 20:22). “But the Spirit himself intercedes for us with unutterable groanings.” The Spirit of the Lord is said to intercede for us not with human speech but in the manner of his own nature. For when what is of God speaks to God, it must speak in the manner in which he speaks from whom it is. For no one speaks to his fellow citizen in another language. For the Spirit given to us pours himself over our prayers, so as to cover our inexperience and lack of foresight with his movement, and to ask of God for us the things that profit us.
Rom 8:26 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:8 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 20:22 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The Spirit helps our ignorant prayers, preventing what would harm us, as Paul and James and John learned, and intercedes for us in the language of God.
- Ambrosiaster’s Old Latin reads “the weakness of our prayer” (orationis), an addition to the Greek. Quotations: 2 Cor 12:9; Matt 20:22.
Topics: Prayer, The Holy Spirit
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.26 (PL 17:125–127; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.27PL 17:127
Qui autem scrutatur corda, scit quid desideret Spiritus, quia secundum Deum postulat pro sanctis. Manifestum est quia Deo, cui nibil tacitum est et occultum, nota est precatio omnium spirituum; quanto magis Spiritus sancti, qui ejusdem utique substantiae est, et loquitur non impulsu aeris, neque ut angeli, aut sicut cætera ex creaturis, sed sicut competit ejus divinitati! Deo ergo loquimur, cum nobis tacere videtur; quia et videt, cum non videatur, et haec petit, quæ scit Deo placere, et nobis prodesse. Tunc sane pro nobis interponit se idem Spiritus, cum scit nos per ignorantiam, non per jactantiam contraria postulare.
“But he who searches the hearts knows what the Spirit desires, because he intercedes for the saints according to God.” It is plain that to God, to whom nothing is silent or hidden, the prayer of all spirits is known; how much more that of the Holy Spirit, who is certainly of the same substance, and speaks not by the impulse of air, nor as the angels, nor as the other creatures, but as befits his divinity! We speak to God, then, when he seems to us silent; because he both sees when he is not seen, and asks for the things he knows please God and profit us. Then indeed the same Spirit interposes himself for us, when he knows that we ask contrary things through ignorance, not through boasting.
Rom 8:27 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God knows the Spirit’s intercession, for the Spirit is of the same substance as God and asks what pleases God and profits us.
- “who is certainly of the same substance”: Ambrosiaster on the Spirit’s divinity; translated as written.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.27 (PL 17:127; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.28PL 17:127
Scimus autem quoniam diligentibusl Deum omnia procedunt in bonum, iia qui secundum proposilum vocati sunt sancii. Hoc dicit, quia diligentes Deum etsi imperite precati fuerint , non illis oberit; qnia propositum cordis illorum sciens Deus bet ignaviam, non illis imputat, quæ adversa postulant; sed ea annuit, qua; danda sunt Deum amantibus. Unde et Dominus ait : Scit autem, inquit, Pater vester quid vobis opus sit, antequam petatis ab eo (Matth. VI, 32). Ili ergo secundum propositum vocantur, quos credentes praescivit Deus futuros sibi idoneos ; ut antequam crederent , scirentur.
“But we know that for those who love God all things turn out for good, for those who are called saints according to his purpose.” He says this because, even if those who love God pray unskilfully, it will not harm them; because God, knowing the purpose of their heart and their lack of skill, does not count against them the contrary things they ask, but grants the things that should be given to those who love God. Hence the Lord too says: “For your Father knows what you need before you ask him” (Matt 6:8, 32). Those, then, are called according to his purpose whom God foreknew, as believers, would be fit for him; so that before they believed, they were known.
Rom 8:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:32 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God turns all things to good for those who love him, overlooking their unskilful prayers; the called are those he foreknew as believers.
- Quotation: Matt 6:8 (with 6:32, Migne’s reference). Ambrosiaster’s view that God calls those he foreknew would believe is translated as written.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.28 (PL 17:127; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.29PL 17:127
Nam quos præscivit. Istos quos praescivit futuros sibi devotos, ipsos elegit ad promissa præmia capessenda ; ut hi qui credere videntur, et non permanent in lide coepta, a Deo electi negentur; quia quos Deus elegit, apud se permanent. Est enim qui ad tempus eligitur , sicut Saul et Judas ; non de præscientia, sed de præsenti justitia. Conformes fieri imaginis Filii sui. Hoc dicit quia ideo prædestinantur in futurum saeculum, ut similes fiant Filio Dei, quod jam supra memoravi. Ut sit ipse primogenitus in multi. fratribus. Recte primogenitus, qui ame omnem creaturam non factus, sed natus est: ad cujus exemplum Deus homines in filios sibi adoptare dignatus est. Est et primogenilus in regeneratione Christus. Est et primogenitus r ex mortuis cujus natura ignoratur. Et primogenitus post victoriam ascendens in coelos. Primogenilus igitur in omnibus frater noster dicitur; quia homo dignatus esi nasci: Dominus vero est; quia Deus noster est, sicut dicit propheta Hieremias : Hic eat Deus noster, d nec reputatur alius absque eo (Baruc. III, 3G).
“For those whom he foreknew.” Those whom he foreknew would be devoted to him, these he chose to take hold of the promised rewards; so that those who seem to believe and do not remain in the faith they began are denied to have been chosen by God; for those whom God has chosen remain with him. For there is one who is chosen for a time, like Saul and Judas, not from foreknowledge but from present righteousness. “To be conformed to the image of his Son.” He says this because they are predestined to the age to come for this purpose, that they may become like the Son of God, as I have mentioned above. “So that he may be the firstborn among many brothers.” Rightly firstborn, who before all creation was not made but born; after whose example God deigned to adopt people as his sons. Christ is also firstborn in regeneration. He is also firstborn from the dead, whose nature is unknown. And firstborn ascending into heaven after victory. Firstborn in all things, then, he is called our brother, because he deigned to be born a man; but he is Lord, because he is our God, as the prophet Jeremiah says: “This is our God, and no other will be reckoned besides him” (Bar 3:36).
Rom 8:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Sam 10:24 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God chose those he foreknew would remain devoted to him, predestining them to be like his Son, who is firstborn in every sense, our brother as man and our Lord as God.
- Ambrosiaster’s distinction between those chosen from foreknowledge, who persevere, and those chosen “for a time” for present righteousness, like Saul and Judas, is translated as written. Quotation: Bar 3:36 (cited as Jeremiah, as was customary). Allusions: Col 1:15, 18.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked column number): ideo 77 prædestinantur → ideo prædestinantur.
Extrabiblical texts: Bar 3:36 (Baruch [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.29 (PL 17:127; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
8.30PL 17:127
Quos autem prædestinavit, illos et vocavit. Vocare est cogitantem de fide adjuvare, aut compungere eum, quem sciat audire. Et quos vocavit, ipsos et justificavit : quos autem justificavit, hos et magnificavit. Hoc dicit quod supra, quia quos præscivit Deus aptus sibi, hi credentes permanent, quia aliter fieri non potest, nisi quos prescivit Deus, ipsos et justificavit : ac per hoc et magnificavit illos, ut similes fiant Filio Dei. De cæteris quos non præscivit Deus, non est illi cura in hac gratia, quia non praescivit 0 illos futuros idoneos. Al si credant, aut eligantur ad tempus; quia videntur boni, ne justitia contempta videatur, non permanent ut magnificentur, sicut et Judas Iscariotes, aut illi septuaginta duo, qui electi, post scandalum passi recesserunt a Salvatore (Joan. VI, 71).
“And those whom he predestined, these he also called.” To call is to help one who is thinking about faith, or to prick the heart of one whom he knows will listen. “And those whom he called, these he also justified; and those whom he justified, these he also glorified.” He says what he said above: that those whom God foreknew as fit for him remain believers, because it cannot be otherwise; except that those whom God foreknew, these he also justified, and therefore he also glorified them, so that they might become like the Son of God. As for the others, whom God did not foreknow, he has no concern for them in this grace, because he did not foreknow them as going to be fit. But if they believe, or are chosen for a time because they seem good, lest righteousness should seem despised, they do not remain so as to be glorified; as with Judas Iscariot, or those seventy-two who, though chosen, after taking offence withdrew from the Saviour (John 6:66).
Rom 8:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:66 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 10:1 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Those God foreknew as fit he calls, justifies and glorifies, and they persevere; others may believe or be chosen for a time but do not remain, like Judas.
- Ambrosiaster’s Old Latin reads “glorified” (magnificavit). He identifies the disciples who left in John 6:66 with “the seventy-two” (Luke 10:1); Migne gives John 6:71. His teaching on foreknowledge and perseverance is translated as written.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.30 (PL 17:127; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.31PL 17:127
Quid ergo dicemus ad hæc? Si Deus pro nobis, quis contra nos? Manifestum est, quia Deo nobis testimonium perhibente, quis est qui audeat accusare nos, quando ipse qui judex est, ante præscivit nos, et idoneos judicavit?
“What, then, shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us?” It is plain that when God bears witness to us, who is there who would dare to accuse us, when he who is judge foreknew us beforehand and judged us fit?
Rom 8:31 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: No one can accuse those whom God the judge has foreknown and approved.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.31 (PL 17:127; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.32PL 17:127–129
Qui proprio Filio suo non pepercit, sed pro nobis omnibus tradidit illum. Sic securos nos debere esse fidei causa hortatur; f ut Deum, quasi præscium , antequam ex impiis fideles essemus, Filium suum pro nobis morti tradidisse ostendat. Quomodo non etiam cum illo omnia nobis donavit? Deum olim decrevisse dicit remunerandos credentes in Cluisium. Si enim quod majus et præcipuum est, prestitit nobis, ut Filiumsuum verum et charissimum tradcret propter nos adhuc impios; quare non quod minus est facturus credatur pro nobis credentibus sibi? Jam enim parata sunt credentibus praemia; minus est enim nobis omnia cum illo donare, quam illum nostri causa morti tradere.
“He who did not spare his own Son, but handed him over for us all.” He exhorts us that we ought to be secure because of faith, showing that God, as one who foreknew, handed his Son over to death for us before we became faithful instead of ungodly. “How will he not also with him give us all things?” He says that God long ago decreed that those who believe in Christ are to be rewarded. For if he did for us what is greater and chief, handing over his true and most dear Son for us while we were still ungodly, why should he not be believed to do what is less for us who believe in him? For the rewards are already prepared for believers; for it is less to give us all things with him than to hand him over to death for our sake.
Rom 8:32 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God, who gave his own Son for the ungodly, will surely give believers all things with him.
- The lemma matches Rom 8:32 (fitted number correct). Ambrosiaster’s Old Latin “donavit” (“gave”, perfect) for the Greek future.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.32 (PL 17:127–129; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
8.33PL 17:129
Quis accusabit adversus electos Dei ? Neminem audere nec posse judicium et praescientiam Dei in nobis retractare apertum est. Quis est enim qui possit hæc, quoe Deus probat, improbare; cum nemo aequalis sit Deo? Deus qui justificat (Esai. L, 8). Hoc in Esaia propheta est, quod hic quasi suum ponit; quia nemo est alius qui, quod probat Deus , arguat. Aut ne forte ipse nos Deus accuset : sed non potest quod justificat, accusare.
“Who will bring a charge against God’s elect?” It is plain that no one dares or is able to reconsider God’s judgment and foreknowledge concerning us. For who is there who could disapprove what God approves, since no one is equal to God? “It is God who justifies” (Isa 50:8). This is in the prophet Isaiah, which he sets down here as if it were his own; because there is no one else who can rebuke what God approves. Or lest perhaps God himself should accuse us: but he cannot accuse what he justifies.
Rom 8:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 50:8 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: No one can accuse those whom God, who alone judges, justifies.
- Allusion: Isa 50:8–9.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.33 (PL 17:129; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.34PL 17:129
Et quis erit, qui condemnet ? Christus qui mortuus est, immo qui et resurrexit, et eat in dextera Dei , qui etiam interpellat pro nobis. Deum, quia nos justificat, accusare nos negat: Christum autem damnare nos non posse; quia co affectu diligit nos, ut morcretur pro nobis, et resurgens, semper causas nostras agat apud Patrem. Cujus postulatio contemni non potest; quia in dextera Dei est, hoc est, in honorc quod Deus est; ut de Deo Patre securi, et Christo Filio ejus qui judicaturus est, infide ejus lætemur. Hinc est illud, quod dicit Petro aposiolo: Ecce exspostulavit Satanas, ut vos ventilet sicut triticum : ego autem rogavi pro te, ne deficiat fides tua (Luc. XXII, 51, 52). Hoc ergo modo interpellat pro nobis Salvator; a sciens enim impudentiam et alliludinem adversarii nostri, cum se commovet adversum nos, si non ei assentiamus, Salvator interpellat pro nobis; ne aliquid violenter præsumat circa nos, ut arceatur insolentia ejus. Hac causa tamen dicitur Filius interpellare, cum ipse agat totum, et aequalis sit Deo Patri; et quia unus dicitur Deus, ne Pater et Filiussingularis, vel unio putaretur, ad personarum distinctionem sic loquitur Scriptura; ut et Filium non disparem tradat: et Patrem, quia Pater est, et quia ab ipso sunt omnia, praeferat.
“And who will be the one who condemns? Christ who died, or rather who also rose, and is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us.” He denies that God accuses us, because he justifies us; and that Christ can condemn us, because he loves us with such affection that he died for us and, rising, always pleads our cause with the Father. His request cannot be despised, because he is at the right hand of God, that is, in the honour that God is; so that, secure about God the Father and Christ his Son, who will judge, we may rejoice in faith in him. Hence that which he says to the apostle Peter: “Behold, Satan has asked to sift you like wheat; but I have prayed for you, that your faith may not fail” (Luke 22:31–32). In this way, then, the Saviour intercedes for us: knowing the impudence and haughtiness of our adversary, when he stirs himself against us if we do not assent to him, the Saviour intercedes for us, lest he presume anything violently against us, so that his insolence may be held back. Yet the Son is said to intercede for this reason, though he does the whole himself and is equal to God the Father: since God is said to be one, lest the Father and the Son be thought a single person, or a union, Scripture speaks thus for the distinction of persons; so as to teach that the Son is not unequal, and to give precedence to the Father, because he is Father and because all things are from him.
Rom 8:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:32 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 8:6 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ, who died and rose for us and sits at God’s right hand, cannot condemn us but intercedes for us, as for Peter; his intercession marks the distinction of persons, not inequality.
- Quotation: Luke 22:31–32. His remark that the language of intercession guards against confusing Father and Son (“a single person, or a union”, against Sabellian views) is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked column number): personarum 78 distinctionem → personarum distinctionem.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.34 (PL 17:129; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
8.35PL 17:129
Quis nos separabit a charitate CArini ? Hoc est, quis nos avertere poterit a dilectione Christi, qui nobis lam magna et innumera præstitit bcneficia? Tribulatio? Sed non facit, quia dilectionem firmi christiani nulla vincunt tormenta. Amantis enim plus incitatur charitas, si eum cujus sensit beneficia, probibeatur amare; dum enim putant se b in merita ejus seminare, suscitant memorata beneficia.
“Who will separate us from the love of Christ?” That is, who will be able to turn us away from love of Christ, who has given us such great and countless benefits? “Tribulation?” But it does not do so, because no torments overcome the love of a firm Christian. For the love of one who loves is stirred the more if he is forbidden to love the one whose benefits he has felt; for while they think they are sowing against his merits, they awaken the remembrance of his benefits.
Rom 8:35 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: No torment can separate a firm Christian from love of Christ; persecution only revives the memory of his benefits.
- Ref 8.35 covers Rom 8:35a; the rest of the list (8:35b) is in 8.36.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.35 (PL 17:129; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.36PL 17:129
An angustia ? an persecutio?an fames? an nuditas? an periculum ? an gladius (sicut scriptum est, quia propter te morte afficimur tota die, æstimati sumus velut ovcs occisionis)? Sed in his omnibus superamus propter eum, qui dilexit nos. Hoc scriptum est in psalmo quadragesimo tertio. Manifestum est ergo haec omnia, quae enumerat, exitia, tribulationes, pressuras, et mortem, non posse conferri vel comp arari charitati Christi, quam seminavit in nobis. Mulio enim majora ejus beneficia habemus, quam haec sunt omnia, quæ videntur adversa. Si enim morimur pro illo, quod gravius videtur in bis, et ille mortuus est pro nobis : sed ille ut prodesset nobis; nostra autem mors non illi proficit, sed nobis. Temporalem enim vitam perdimus, ut nobis rependatur aeterna. Et quid mirum si servi moriantur pro bono Domino; quando Dominus mortuus est pro servis, et malis? Vincunt ergo beneficia, et exhortantur animum ad perseverandum propter eum, qui dilexit nos.
“Or distress? Or persecution? Or famine? Or nakedness? Or danger? Or the sword (as it is written: For your sake we are put to death all day long; we are reckoned as sheep for slaughter)? But in all these things we overcome because of him who loved us.” This is written in the forty-third psalm. It is plain, then, that all these destructions which he lists, tribulations, pressures and death, cannot be set beside or compared with the love of Christ which he has sown in us. For we have far greater benefits from him than all these things which seem adverse. For if we die for him, which seems the gravest of these, he too died for us; but he did so to profit us, whereas our death does not profit him but us. For we lose temporal life so that eternal life may be repaid to us. And what wonder if servants die for a good Lord, when the Lord died for servants, and wicked ones? His benefits, then, prevail, and exhort the mind to persevere because of him who loved us.
Rom 8:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:36 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:37 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 44:22 (43:22 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: No suffering, even death, compares with Christ’s love and benefits; servants may well die for the Lord who died for them.
- Ref 8.36 begins with Rom 8:35b (“Or distress? …”) and covers 8:35b–37; the fitted verse number marks the quotation of 8:36. Quotation: Ps 44:22 (Vulg. 43:23).
Topics: Persecution, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.36 (PL 17:129; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
8.38PL 17:129–131
Confido enim quia neque mors. Confidentia hæc de sponsione Christi est, qua promisit in tribulatione adjuvare sibi dicatam fidem. Neque vita, neque angelus, neque virtu., neque altitudo, neque profundum, neque præsentia, neque futura, neque alia creatura poterit nos separare a charitate Dei, quæ eat in Christo Jesu Domino nostro. Hæc sunt omnia, quae ad abductionem nostram a diabolo inferuntur, quae idcirco memorat, ut muniat nos; ut si advenerint, confidentes de spe, et auxiliis Christi, armati fide adversus hæc repugnemus. Quid enim si mors illata fucrit, nonne lucrum est maximum occasionem invenire, qua citius eatur in regnum promissum? Neque si præsens vita promissa nobis fuerit dignitate munita, debet nos avertere ab spe beneficii Christi, qucm scimus, quia non solum in futuro , sed et in præsenti proderit nobis. Nec quidem si se angelus nobis ostendat ad seducendos nos, c subornatus fallaciis patris sui diaboli, prseva- Iere dcbebit adversum nos ; cum sciamus Christo, ut magni consilii Angelo, nihil præponendum (Esai. ix, 6). Neque si virtus ab aliquo facia fuerit, sicut dicitur facta a Simone mago, qui dicitur in acre sursum , ut populum Christi scandalizaret, volasse, fidem nostram debebit minuere , scientium Salvatorem nube famulante susceptum ascendisse supra omnes caelos (Act. I, 9). Neque si in altitudinem se nobis ostendat, de qua dicit Joannes apostolus : An ignoratis altitudinem Satanæ (Apoc. n, 24) ? a devolionc nos Domini Jesu debebit auferre, quem scimus descendisse de coelo, d ut terrena spiritalibus sociaret. Neque si per phantasiam, qua seducere meditatur, profundum nobis ostendat horrore mirandum, qua territi forte succumbamus illi : nec sic dignum est, ut Christo fidem frangamus, quem scimus nostri causa in profundum terræ descendisse et morte pressa genus bumanum liberasse. Neque si futura nobis spondeat, quae promisit Evae (Gen. III, ł), assensum dabimus illi, discreti a Christo, quem virtute et natura Deum credimus et scimus. Nec si arte a et subtilitate astutiæ suae aliam creaturam fingat ad horam, sicut finxerunt Jamnes elMambres coram Pharaonc; inconveniens est, ut per hæc a Deo creatore vero nos revocet , quem nou ignoramus per Christum Filium suum creaturam condidisse in æternum existentem ( II Tim. ut, 8). Quibusdam videtur aliam creaturam dixisse de idolis; sed non est verum, quia hanc debuit significare, quam sub admiratione seductionis videtur tingere Satanas. Nam quis seducatur fidelium ad hæc, a quibus recessit manifestato errore? Sed hæc meditatur et fingit, per qua; etiam electos possit seducere. Nulia ergo sunt, |quæ nos possint a charitate Dei separare, quæ est in Christo Jesu : Deus enim charitatem suam in Christo nobis ostendit, dum tradit illum pro nobis.
“For I am confident that neither death.” This confidence is from the pledge of Christ, by which he promised to help in tribulation the faith dedicated to him. “Nor life, nor angel, nor power, nor height, nor depth, nor things present, nor things to come, nor any other creature will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” These are all the things that are brought on by the devil to draw us away, which he mentions to fortify us; so that, if they come, confident in hope and in the help of Christ, armed with faith we may fight against them. For what if death is inflicted? Is it not the greatest gain to find an occasion by which one may go sooner into the promised kingdom? Nor, if the present life is promised us furnished with rank, ought it to turn us away from the hope of the benefit of Christ, who we know will profit us not only in the future but also in the present. Nor indeed, if an angel shows himself to us to seduce us, suborned by the deceits of his father the devil, ought he to prevail against us; since we know that nothing is to be put before Christ, as the Angel of great counsel (Isa 9:6). Nor, if a mighty work is done by someone, as one is said to have been done by Simon Magus, who is said to have flown upward in the air in order to scandalize the people of Christ, ought it to lessen our faith, since we know that the Saviour, received by a cloud serving him, ascended above all the heavens (Acts 1:9). Nor, if he shows himself to us in height, of which the apostle John says, “Do you not know the height of Satan?” (Rev 2:24), ought he to take us from devotion to the Lord Jesus, who we know came down from heaven to join earthly things to spiritual. Nor, if through an illusion, by which he plans to seduce, he shows us a depth wondrous in horror, so that, terrified, we perhaps yield to him: not even so is it right that we break faith with Christ, who we know descended for our sake into the depth of the earth and, death being crushed, freed the human race. Nor, if he promises us things to come, as he promised Eve (Gen 3:5), shall we give him assent, separated from Christ, whom we believe and know to be God by power and nature. Nor, if by art and the subtlety of his cunning he fashions another creature for an hour, as Jannes and Jambres did before Pharaoh, is it fitting that by these things he should call us back from God the true Creator, who we well know created through Christ his Son a creation existing for ever (2 Tim 3:8). Some think that by “another creature” he meant idols; but that is not true, because he must have meant the one which Satan seems to fashion to excite the admiration of seduction. For which of the faithful would be seduced to the things from which he withdrew when the error was exposed? But he plans and fashions these things, through which he might seduce even the elect. There is nothing, then, that can separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus: for God showed his love to us in Christ when he handed him over for us.
Rom 8:38 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 9:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 1:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 2:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 7:11 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 24:24 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Ambrosiaster takes each power in Rom 8:38–39 as one of the devil’s attempts to draw believers from Christ, death, worldly rank, false angels, false wonders like Simon Magus’s flight, terrors and illusions, none of which can separate them from God’s love in Christ.
- Ref 8.38 covers Rom 8:38–39. Ambrosiaster’s Old Latin reads “I am confident” (confido) and “nor angel” in the singular. Allusions: Isa 9:6 (LXX “Angel of great counsel”); Acts 1:9; Rev 2:24 (“the deep things”, Latin “altitudines”); Gen 3:5; Exod 7:11–12; 2 Tim 3:8 (Jannes and Jambres); Matt 24:24. Simon Magus’s flight is from the Acts of Peter tradition.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked column number): errore? 79 Sed → errore? Sed.
Extrabiblical texts: Acts Pet. 32 (Acts of Peter; allusion); Jan. Jam. (Jannes and Jambres; allusion)
Topics: The devil and demons, Magic, divination, and astrology
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 8.38 (PL 17:129–131; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/8-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
Chapter 9
9.1PL 17:131
Veritatem dico in Christo leaM, nox mentior, testimonium mihi perltibenle conscientia mea in Spiritu sancto, quia tristitia est mihi magna, et continuus dolor cordi meo; optabam enim ego ipse anatliema esse a Christo pro fratribus meis, cognatis secundum carnem, qui sunt Israelitæ. Quoniam superius contra Judæos loqui videtur, qui ex Lege justificari se putant : nunc ut votum suum et affectum circa eos ostendat; teste conscientia sua, in Christo Jesu et in Spiritu sancto dicit se loqui, ut non velut inimico illorum fides haberi non possit. Ideo Christum et Spiritum sanctum, quos nihil latet, testes dal : et quorum testimonium reprobari non potest, qui sic perhibent testimonium Apostolo, dum commendant eum virtme signorum, quae faciebant per illum. Quia enim lam magnum præsidium est Christi, et præcipuam charitatem erga genus humanum ostendit, et dignatione ejus gloriosa et immortalia præmia repromissa : ac per hoc do let genus suum, quod est secundum carnem; quia incredulitate sua hoc perenni et salutari beneficio se privarunt. Ergo, optabam, ait, non opto; quia scit fieri non posse, ut tam honestum membrum , nullo praecedente vitio, abscinderetur b a corpore christiano; affectum tamen et dilectionem circa genus suum ostendit.
“I speak the truth in Christ Jesus, I do not lie, my conscience bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, that I have great sorrow and unceasing pain in my heart; for I myself wished to be accursed from Christ for my brothers, my kinsmen according to the flesh, who are Israelites.” Since above he seems to speak against the Jews, who think they are justified by the law, now, to show his wish and affection toward them, he says that he speaks with his conscience as witness, in Christ Jesus and in the Holy Spirit, so that faith might not be withheld from him as from their enemy. Therefore he gives as witnesses Christ and the Holy Spirit, from whom nothing is hidden, and whose testimony cannot be rejected, who bear such witness to the apostle when they commend him by the power of the signs which they did through him. For since the protection of Christ is so great, and he has shown a special love toward the human race, and by his condescension glorious and immortal rewards have been promised, therefore he grieves for his race according to the flesh, because by their unbelief they have deprived themselves of this everlasting and saving benefit. So he says, “I wished,” not “I wish”; because he knows that it cannot happen that so honourable a member, with no preceding fault, should be cut off from the Christian body; yet he shows his affection and love toward his race.
Rom 9:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Paul, calling Christ and the Spirit to witness, declares his grief for his fellow Israelites who lost the benefit of Christ through unbelief.
- Ref 9.1 covers Rom 9:1–4a. Ambrosiaster reads “I wished” (optabam), and stresses the past tense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): qui sunt 1 sraelitæ → qui sunt Israelitæ.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.1 (PL 17:131; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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9.4PL 17:131
Quorum adoptio est filiorum. Juste se dolere probat, quando prædicat laudem generis eorum ; quia olim filii adoptati, affectum et gratiam Dei Patris in irritum habuerunt. Adjecit adhuc, ut et alios dolere pro his faciat, dicens :
“Whose is the adoption of sons.” He proves that he grieves rightly when he proclaims the praise of their race; because, though long ago adopted sons, they held the affection and grace of God the Father as nothing. He added more, so as to make others too grieve for them, saying:
Rom 9:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Paul grieves because Israel, once adopted as God’s sons, made that grace void.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.4 (PL 17:131; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.5PL 17:131
Et gloria, ei testamenta, et legislatio, et obsequium, et promissa, quorum Patres, et ex quibus Christus secundum carnem, qui est super omnia Deut benedictus in sEcula. Arnen. Tanta praeconia nobilitatis et dignitatis generis Judæorum et promissionum enumerat, ut omnibus pro his dolorem incutiat; quia non recipiendo Salvatorem prærogativam Panum, et promissionis meritum perdiderunt, pejores geulilibus facti, quos prius, quia sine Deo crant, abominabantur : propensius enim malum est dignitatem perdidisse, quam non habuisse. Intenea de Salvatore dicit: Qui eat super omnia Deus benedictus in sæcula. Amen. Quando enim nulla paterni nominis fit mentio, et de Christo sermo est; non potest differri, ne Deus dicatur. Frequenter enim Scriptura propter unius Dei professionem, si de Deo Patre loquitur, et Deo adjungit Filium, Deum Patrem vocat, et Filium Dominum. Si quisautem non putai de Christo dictum: Qui eat Deus, det personam, de qua dictum est : de Patre euim Deo hoc loco mentio facta non est. Sed quid mirum, si ill boc loco Christum Deum super omnia aperta voce loqueretur, de quo alia in epistola hunc sensum tali serm( ne firmavit, dicens: Ut in nomine Jesu omne genu jlectaiur, cœlestium , terrestrium et infernorum (Plulip. II, 10)? Hac suot omnia, super quæ Deus Cbrislus est. Nequc euim, exceptis bis, suut aliqua, ut uon super omnia Deus Christus sit: nec potest genu flectere omnis creatura, nisi Deo. Denique Joannes apostolus cum inscius anetum ut Deum vellet adorare, audit ab eo : Ne feceris, quoniam conservus tuus sum. Deum, inquit, adora (Apoc. XIX, 10). Nec Dominus utique adorari se pateretur, nisi quia Deus est : si quominus, usurpasse dicendus est, et peccasse, quodabsit; cum ipse diabolum increpans, Dominum Deum adorandum, et ipsi soli serviendum ostendat (Matth. IV, 10). Nihil ergo præjudicatur Deo Patri, cum adoratur Christus ut Deus; quia cum soli Deo serviendum dicatur, servitur et Christo. Dicit enimalio loco : Qni in hit servit Christo, placet Deo (Joan. K, 4). Quid ergo superest, nisi ut Pater Deus, et Filius Deus; et nihilominus unus Deus credatur uterque? Sive enim Patrem quis adoret, sive Filium, unum Deum dicitur adorare; c et servire Patri, autFilio , uni Dee servitium eibibetur. Nulla igitur discretin est; quia qui adorat Filium, adorat et Patrem : et qui servit Patri , servii et Filio. Et ut sine adulatione deitatis hujus confessionem esse doceret, in conclusione posuit, Amen, boc est, verum; ut Christum Deum super omnia in veritate ostenderet beeedictum in sæcula.
“And the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the worship, and the promises; whose are the fathers, and from whom is Christ according to the flesh, who is God over all, blessed for ever. Amen.” He lists such great praises of the nobility and dignity of the race of the Jews and of the promises, to strike all with grief for them; because by not receiving the Saviour they lost the prerogative of the fathers and the merit of the promise, becoming worse than the gentiles, whom formerly they abominated because they were without God; for it is a greater evil to have lost dignity than not to have had it. Meanwhile he says of the Saviour: “Who is God over all, blessed for ever. Amen.” For when no mention is made of the Father’s name and the discourse is about Christ, it cannot be put off that he is called God. For Scripture frequently, for the sake of confessing one God, when it speaks of God the Father and joins the Son to God, calls the Father God and the Son Lord. But if anyone does not think it is said of Christ, “who is God,” let him give the person of whom it is said; for in this place no mention is made of God the Father. But what wonder if in this place he spoke of Christ with open voice as God over all, when in another letter he confirmed this sense with such words, saying: “That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, on earth and under the earth” (Phil 2:10)? These are all things over which Christ is God. For apart from these there is nothing, so that Christ is God over all; nor can every creature bend the knee except to God. Indeed, when the apostle John unknowingly wished to worship an angel as God, he heard from him: “Do not do it, for I am your fellow servant. Worship God” (Rev 19:10). Nor would the Lord certainly have allowed himself to be worshipped unless he were God; otherwise he must be said to have usurped and sinned, which be far from us; since he himself, rebuking the devil, shows that the Lord God is to be worshipped and that he alone is to be served (Matt 4:10). Nothing, then, is prejudiced against God the Father when Christ is worshipped as God; because, though it is said that God alone is to be served, Christ too is served. For he says in another place: “Whoever serves Christ in these things pleases God” (Rom 14:18). What remains, then, but that the Father be believed God and the Son God, and nevertheless both one God? For whether one worships the Father or the Son, he is said to worship one God; and whether one serves the Father or the Son, service is given to one God. There is, then, no separation; because one who worships the Son worships also the Father, and one who serves the Father serves also the Son. And to teach that this confession of deity is without flattery, he put at the end, “Amen,” that is, truly; so as to show Christ in truth as God over all, blessed for ever.
Rom 9:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 19:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 4:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 6:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 14:18 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Ambrosiaster lists Israel’s privileges, lost by rejecting the Saviour, and argues at length that “God over all, blessed for ever” refers to Christ, who is worshipped as God with the Father as one God.
- Ref 9.5 covers Rom 9:4b–5. Quotations: Phil 2:10; Rev 19:10; Matt 4:10 (with Deut 6:13); Rom 14:18 (Migne’s margin wrongly gives John). His judgment on the Jews is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked column number): eibibetur. 80 Nulla → eibibetur. Nulla.
Topics: Christology, Trinity, Worship
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.5 (PL 17:131; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.6PL 17:131–133
Non autem excidit verbum Vei. Non excidit verbum Dei dicentis : In Isaac vocabitur tibi te men ( GeR. XXI, 12), id est, hoc evenit, quod dixit Deus futurum ; ut non hi dicerentur semen esse Abrahæ, qui filii ejus essent secundum carnem : sed isti qui fidem acceperint, per quam natus est, Isaac, reformatam tempore Christi, ROn jam specialem , sed generalem ; ut quod Ahrabam credidit de Isaac, isti crederent de Deo et Christo ; quia natus est Dei Filius ad salutem a humani generis redimendam.
“But the word of God has not failed.” The word of God has not failed, who said: “In Isaac shall your seed be called” (Gen 21:12); that is, what God said would be has happened: that those should not be called the seed of Abraham who were his sons according to the flesh, but those who received the faith through which Isaac was born, renewed in the time of Christ, no longer special but general; so that what Abraham believed about Isaac, these should believe about God and Christ, because the Son of God was born to redeem the salvation of the human race.
Rom 9:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 21:12 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God’s word has not failed: Abraham’s true seed are those who share the faith by which Isaac was born.
- Allusion: Gen 21:12.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.6 (PL 17:131–133; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.7PL 17:133
Neque omne. qui tunt ex Israel, It; sunt Israelitae ; neque quia semen sunt Abrahe, omnes fiIii: ted in Isaac vocabitur tibi temen. b Hoc est quod vult intelligi, non jam ideo dignos esse omnes, quia filii sunt Abrabse : sed eos esse dignos, qui filii promissionis sunt, id est, quos præsciit Deus pronussionem suam suscepturos , sive ex Judicis I sive ex sentibus ; hi enim digni sum dici Israelitae, id est, videntes Deum, qui credunt. Nam de Isaac utique omnes hi Tilii sunt Abrahæ ; quia omnis propago gencris Judæorum ex Abraham per Isaac est. c Sed quia, sicut dixi, hi sunt vere filii Abrahæ, qui promissionem sequuntur, quæ in Isaac facta est : ac per hoc reliqui filii non sunt dicendi Abrahae; Abraham enim credens, Isaac accepit propter fidem, quia credidit Den. In quo mysterium futurae fidei designatum est; ut illi essent fratres Isaac, qui eamdem fidem haberent, in qua Isaac natus est; quia Isaac in typo Salvatoris natus est ex promissione, ut qui crediderit Christum Jesum promissum esse Abrahae, hic sit filius Abrahæ, frater vero Isaac. Dictum est ergo Abrahæ , quia in senzine tuo benedicentur omnet gentes (Gen. XXII, 18); quod utque in Isaac factum non cst, sed in eo, qui in Isaac promissus est Abravæ , qui est Christus, in quo omnes gentes benedicuntur credentes. Caeteri ergo Judæi filii sunt carnis, dum promissione privantur: nec deputari possunt merito Abrahæ, qui fidem non sequuntur, per quam dignus exstitit Abraham.
“Nor are all who are from Israel Israelites; nor, because they are the seed of Abraham, are all sons; but in Isaac shall your seed be called.” This is what he wants to be understood: that not all are worthy because they are sons of Abraham, but that those are worthy who are sons of the promise, that is, those whom God foreknew would receive his promise, whether from the Jews or from the gentiles; for those who believe are worthy to be called Israelites, that is, seeing God. For certainly all these are sons of Abraham through Isaac; for the whole offspring of the race of the Jews is from Abraham through Isaac. But, as I said, those are truly sons of Abraham who follow the promise which was made in Isaac; and therefore the rest are not to be called sons of Abraham. For Abraham, believing, received Isaac because of faith, because he believed God. In this the mystery of the faith to come was marked out: that those would be brothers of Isaac who had the same faith in which Isaac was born; for Isaac was born of the promise as a type of the Saviour, so that whoever has believed that Christ Jesus was promised to Abraham is a son of Abraham and a brother of Isaac. It was said, then, to Abraham: “In your seed all nations will be blessed” (Gen 22:18); which certainly did not happen in Isaac, but in him who was promised to Abraham in Isaac, who is Christ, in whom all nations that believe are blessed. The other Jews, then, are sons of the flesh, since they are deprived of the promise; nor can they be counted to the merit of Abraham who do not follow the faith through which Abraham proved worthy.
Rom 9:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 21:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:16 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Abraham’s true sons, Jew or gentile, are those who share his faith in the promise fulfilled in Christ, of whom Isaac was a type.
- “Israelites, that is, seeing God”: the traditional etymology of Israel. Quotation: Gen 22:18.
Topics: The church and Israel, Faith
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.7 (PL 17:133; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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9.8PL 17:133
Id eat, non qui filii carnit, hi sunt filii Dei : aed qui filii promissionis 'unt, œstimantur J in semine. Apertum est quia non possunt dici filii carnis filii Dei : hi enim ex concupiscentia carnis nati sunt; isti vero ex fide spiritualiter, secundum quod promissum est Abrahæ; ut hi aestimarentur semen esse, qui crederent.
“That is, not those who are sons of the flesh are sons of God, but those who are sons of the promise are reckoned as the seed.” It is clear that sons of the flesh cannot be called sons of God: for these are born of the desire of the flesh, but those spiritually from faith, according to what was promised to Abraham; so that those who believe are reckoned to be the seed.
Rom 9:8 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Not physical descent but faith makes one a son of God and Abraham’s seed.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.8 (PL 17:133; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.9PL 17:133
Promissionis enim verbum hoc est : Ad hoc temput veniam, et habebit Sara filium. Hoc in Genesi habetur, quod praefiguratum in Christo est, at futurus Christus promitteretur filius Abrahæ , in quo promissionis verbum impleretur, ut in Christo benedicerentur omnes gentes terræ. Quando euim promissio facta est Abrahæ, et audivil : Quia in semine tuo benedicentur omnes gentes terrœ ; Christus uiique illi promissus est ex traduce Isaac, in quo hoc impletum videmus.
“For this is the word of promise: At this time I will come, and Sarah will have a son.” This is found in Genesis, and it was prefigured in Christ, so that the future Christ was promised as a son of Abraham, in whom the word of promise would be fulfilled, that in Christ all nations of the earth would be blessed. For when the promise was made to Abraham, and he heard, “In your seed all nations of the earth will be blessed,” Christ was certainly promised to him through the line of Isaac, in whom we see this fulfilled.
Rom 9:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 18:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The promise of a son to Sarah prefigured Christ, in whom all nations are blessed.
- Quotations: Gen 18:10, 14; Gen 22:18.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.9 (PL 17:133; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.10PL 17:133
Nan solum aNtem hæc, e id est , Sarra, srd et Rebecca ex uno concubitu habens Itaac patria nostri. Non tantum ergo Sarram in typo dicit generasse isaac, sed et Rebeccam uxorem Isaac. Sed alia causa esl in Isaac, alia in Jacob et Esau; quia Isaac in figura Salvatoris natus est, Jacob vero et Esau duoram populorum habent typum, id est, credentium , et uon credentium ; ut cum ex uno sint, diversi sint tamen. In singulis enim et genus significatur, ut hi unius generis dicantur, qui in causa fidei unum sunt, vel perfidiæ. Unus enim significatur in multis, non per traducem carnis, sed per communem causam ; quM et ex Esau Jacob filii decendi sunt, et ex Jacob Esau imputandi suet tilii. Nec enini quia Jacob laudatur, omnes ex eo nati, filii ejus merito dicendi sunt : aut quia Esau displicet, omnes ex ejus origine reprobi sunt ; cum videamus et de Jacob traduce natos factos perfidos, et de Esau fideles et Deo charos. Nam quod de Jaceb multi sint perfidi, dubium pon'est ; omNes enim Judæi Ron credentes, out credentes ex eo babent originem : et quia de Esau sunt boni et fideles, probat Job, qui est ex fitis Esau, quintus, ab Abraham, hoc est, nepos Esa.
“And not only this,” that is, Sarah, “but also Rebecca, having conceived by one act of intercourse, by Isaac our father.” He says, then, that not only did Sarah bear Isaac as a type, but also Rebecca, the wife of Isaac. But the case of Isaac is one thing, that of Jacob and Esau another; for Isaac was born in the figure of the Saviour, but Jacob and Esau bear the type of two peoples, that is, of believers and unbelievers; so that, though they are from one, they are yet different. For in individuals a race too is signified, so that those are said to be of one race who are one in the matter of faith or of faithlessness. For one is signified in many, not through descent of the flesh but through a common cause; so that sons of Jacob may also be said to come from Esau, and sons of Esau may be counted from Jacob. For not because Jacob is praised are all born of him rightly to be called his sons; nor, because Esau displeases, are all of his origin reprobate; since we see that some born of the line of Jacob became faithless, and some from Esau faithful and dear to God. For that many from Jacob are faithless there is no doubt; for all the Jews, believing or not believing, have their origin from him; and that there are good and faithful people from Esau, Job proves, who is of the sons of Esau, fifth from Abraham, that is, a grandson of Esau.
Rom 9:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:1 (allusion, low confidence)
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Summary: Isaac prefigures Christ, while Jacob and Esau represent believers and unbelievers, a matter of faith, not descent, as the faithful Job, a descendant of Esau, shows.
- Ambrosiaster makes Job a grandson of Esau, fifth from Abraham, following the tradition found in the LXX appendix to Job (42:17b–e); translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked column number): Ron 81 credentes → Ron credentes.
Topics: Interpreting Scripture
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.10 (PL 17:133; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.11PL 17:133–135
Nam cum nondum nuti fuissent, aut aliquid egissent bonum vel malum ; ut secundum electionem propositum Dei maneret, non ex operibus, aed a; vocante dictum est quia major serviet minori, sicut scriptum est : Jacob dilexi, Esau autem odie hubui. Hoe in Malchia babetur. Præscientiam Dei llagitat in his causis, quia nen aliud potest evenire, quam novit Deus futurum. Sciendo enim quid unusquisque illorum futurus esset, dixit: Hic erit dignus, qni-erit minor; et qui major, erit indignus. Unum elegit præscienta, et alterum sprevit : et in illo quam elegit, propositum Dei manet; quia aliud non potest evenire, quam quod scivit, et proposuit in illo, ut salute dignus sit: et in illo, quem sprevit, simili modo manet propositum, quod proposuit de ilko; quia indignos erit. Hoc quasi praescius, nan personarum acceptor; nam neminem damnat, antequam peccet : et nullum coronat, autequam vincat. Uoc pertinet ad causam Judæorum, qui sibi praerogativam defendunt, quod filii sint Abrahae : Apostoius amem consolatur se; ut quia dixerat dolorem habere se cerdis continuum, causa incredulitatis eorum, quorum adoptio erat filiorum, et legis constitutio, et ex quibus Christus, Salvator, sicut et ipse ait : Quia salus ex Judœis est (Joan. iv, 22); tractata Lege, invenit quia non omnes qui ex Israel sunt, credituri sunt : ncque quia dicuntur filii Abrahæ, omnes Abrahæ filios dicendos, sicut supra memoravi. Minuit ergo dolorem suum, invenicns olim praedictum, quod non omnes essent credituri; It ut his solis doleat, qui per invidiam in incredulitate laborant. Possunt tamen credere, quod ex subjectis aperit. Incredulis tamen prædictis uon valde dolendum est; quia non sunt praedestinati ad vitam; præscientia enim Dei olim hos non salvandos decrevit. Quis enim plangat eum, qui olim mortuus habetur? Sed subintrantibus gentibus, quae sine Deo prius erant, et salutem quam illi perdiderunt, accipicntibus, exsuscitatur dolor : sed iterum quia ipsi sibi perditionis causa sunt, sopitur. Praescius itaque Deus malae illos voluntatis futuros, non illos habuit in numero bonorum; quamvis dicat Salvator illis septuaginta duobus discipulis, quos elegerat secunda classe, qui ab illo postea recesserunt: Nomina vestra scripta sunt in cælo (Luc. x, 20). Sed hoc propter justitiam, quia hoc est justum ; ut unicuique pro merito respondeatur. Quia enim boni erant, electi sunt ad ministerium; et erant scripta nomina illorum in coelo propter justitiam, sicut dixi : secundum praescientiam vero in numero eram malorum. De justitia enim Deus judicat, non de præscientia. Unde et Moysi dixit : Si quia peccaverit ante met deleam eum de libro meo (Exod. XXIII, 34) ut secundum justitiam judicis tunc videatur deleri, cum peccat: juxta præscientiam vero numquam in libro vitæ fuisse. Hinc et apostolus Joannes de hujusmodi ait : Ex nobis exierunt, aed non fuerunt ex nobis; si enim fuissent ex nobis, permansissent utique nobiscum (I Joan, II, 20). Nou est personarum acceptio in præscientia Dei ; praescientia enim est qua definitum habet, qualis uniuscujusque futura voluntas erit, in qua mansurus est, per quam aut damnetur, aut coronetur. Denique quos scit in bono mansuros, frequenter ante sunt mali : et quos malos scit permansuros, aliquoties prius sunt boni. Unde cessat querela; quia Deus acceptor personarum non est (Act. x, 34). Nam et Saul, et Judas Iscariotes ante fuerunt boni, dicente Scriptura de Saul : Erat vir bonus, et non crat illo melior in filiis Israel (I Reg. IX, 2); et de Juda Iscariote dicit Petrus apostolus : Qui sortitus est sortem ministerii hujus (Act. I, 17), id est, apostolatus, b in signis et prodigiis faciendis. Quomodo igitur ministerium salutare sortiretur, nisi esset bonus? In sorte enim Dei judicium fuit dignum illum fuisse tempore, quo electus est, sicut illi septuaginta duo, quos supra memoravi (Matth. XVII, 5). Hinc est unde et Judas post mali totius admissum scelus pœnitentia motus, iaqueo vitam finivit. Non potest enim in aliquo omne bonum penitus oblitterari; quippe cum natura non possit immutari, sed voluntas : non in omnibus tamen causis; quia remanet in natura, quod testimonio sit Creatori.
“For when they had not yet been born, nor done anything good or evil, so that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not from works but from the one who calls, it was said that the elder will serve the younger, as it is written: Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” This is found in Malachi. He urges the foreknowledge of God in these cases, because nothing can happen other than what God knew would be. For knowing what each of them would be, he said: This one, who will be the younger, will be worthy; and the one who is elder will be unworthy. He chose one by foreknowledge and rejected the other; and in the one he chose, the purpose of God stands, because nothing can happen other than what he knew and purposed in him, that he would be worthy of salvation; and in the one he rejected the purpose he purposed concerning him stands in the same way, because he will be unworthy. This he does as one who foreknows, not as a respecter of persons; for he condemns no one before he sins, and crowns no one before he conquers. This pertains to the case of the Jews, who claim a prerogative for themselves because they are sons of Abraham. The apostle, however, consoles himself; for he had said that he had continual pain of heart because of the unbelief of those whose was the adoption of sons and the giving of the law, and from whom Christ the Saviour came, as he himself says: “For salvation is from the Jews” (John 4:22). Having examined the law, he found that not all who are from Israel would believe, nor, because they are called sons of Abraham, are all to be called sons of Abraham, as I mentioned above. He lessens his pain, then, finding it foretold long ago that not all would believe; so that he grieves only for those who labour in unbelief through envy. Yet they can believe, which he discloses in what follows. Still, there is no need to grieve much for the unbelievers foretold, because they are not predestined to life; for the foreknowledge of God long ago decreed that these would not be saved. For who mourns one who has long been held dead? But as the gentiles, who before were without God, come in and receive the salvation which those lost, the pain is reawakened; but again, because they are themselves the cause of their own perdition, it is lulled. God, then, foreknowing that they would be of evil will, did not have them in the number of the good; even though the Saviour says to those seventy-two disciples whom he had chosen in a second rank, who afterwards withdrew from him: “Your names are written in heaven” (Luke 10:20). But this was on account of justice, because this is just, that each be answered according to his merit. For because they were good they were chosen for the ministry, and their names were written in heaven on account of justice, as I said; but according to foreknowledge they were in the number of the wicked. For God judges according to justice, not according to foreknowledge. Hence he said to Moses too: “If anyone has sinned before me, I will blot him out of my book” (Exod 32:33); so that according to the justice of the judge he seems to be blotted out then, when he sins; but according to foreknowledge he was never in the book of life. Hence the apostle John too says of such: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would certainly have remained with us” (1 John 2:19). There is no respect of persons in the foreknowledge of God; for foreknowledge is that by which he has defined what each one’s future will will be, in which he will remain, through which he will be either condemned or crowned. Indeed those whom he knows will remain in good are often evil beforehand; and those whom he knows will remain evil are sometimes good at first. Hence complaint ceases, because God is not a respecter of persons (Acts 10:34). For Saul too and Judas Iscariot were good at first, Scripture saying of Saul: “He was a good man, and there was none better than he among the sons of Israel” (1 Sam 9:2); and of Judas Iscariot the apostle Peter says: “Who received the lot of this ministry” (Acts 1:17), that is, of the apostolate, in doing signs and wonders. How, then, would he have received a saving ministry unless he were good? For in the lot was the judgment of God that he was worthy at the time he was chosen, like those seventy-two whom I mentioned above. Hence too Judas, after committing the crime of every evil, moved by repentance, ended his life with a noose. For not every good can be utterly blotted out in anyone, since nature cannot be changed, but the will can; yet not in all respects, because there remains in nature what bears witness to the Creator.
Rom 9:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 25:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 4:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 10:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 32:33 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 10:34 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Sam 9:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:5 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Ambrosiaster explains God’s choice of Jacob over Esau as resting on foreknowledge of their wills, not favouritism; God judges by present justice, so that some, like Saul, Judas and the seventy-two, are good for a time though foreknown as evil.
- Ref 9.11 covers Rom 9:11–13. Quotations: Mal 1:2–3; John 4:22; Luke 10:20; Exod 32:33 (Migne gives 23:34); 1 John 2:19 (Migne gives 2:20); Acts 10:34; 1 Sam 9:2 (Vulg. 1 Kgs); Acts 1:17. Allusions: Gen 25:23; Matt 27:5. Migne’s “Matth. XVII, 5” is a misplaced reference. His doctrine of election by foreknowledge is translated as written; “paenitentia” here is Judas’s remorse.
Topics: Election and predestination
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.11 (PL 17:133–135; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.14PL 17:135
Quid ergo dicemus? Numquid iniquitas apud Deum? Absit. Quia enim unum diligit, et alterum odit, subinfert : £2 Numquid iniquitas apud Deum (Exod. XXXIII, 19)? Non plane, sed justus est Deus; scit enim quid faciat, nee retractandum est ejus judicium. Hoc in Malachia propheta habetur : Jacob dilexi, Etau vero odio habui (Malac. I, 5). Hoc jam de judicio dicit ; nam prius de præscientia ait, quia major serviet minori, sicut et de præscientia Pharaonem damnavit (Gen. xxv, 33), sciens se non correcturum : apostolum vero Paulum persequentem elegit (Actor. IX, 5), pra'scius utique quod futurus cssel bonus. Hunc ergo praevenit aute tempus. uia necessarius erat; et Pharaonem ante futurum judicium damnavit, ut crederetur judicaturus.
“What, then, shall we say? Is there iniquity with God? By no means.” Because he loves one and hates the other, he adds: “Is there iniquity with God?” Plainly not, but God is just; for he knows what he does, and his judgment is not to be reconsidered. This is found in the prophet Malachi: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated” (Mal 1:2–3). This he now says of judgment; for before he spoke of foreknowledge, that the elder would serve the younger, as by foreknowledge he also condemned Pharaoh, knowing that he would not correct himself; while he chose the apostle Paul when he was persecuting (Acts 9:5), foreknowing certainly that he would be good. This one, then, he came upon before the time, because he was necessary; and Pharaoh he condemned before the future judgment, so that he might be believed to be going to judge.
Rom 9:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 9:5 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: God is not unjust in loving Jacob and hating Esau: as he condemned Pharaoh and chose Paul, he acts on his foreknowledge of their wills.
- Migne’s marginal references “Exod. XXXIII, 19” and “Gen. xxv, 33” are misplaced. Allusion: Acts 9:4–5.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.14 (PL 17:135; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.
9.15PL 17:135
Moysi enim dicit : Miserebor cui misertus ero : et misericordiam præstabo, cui misericordiam prœstitero. Ergo misericordia, miserebor, inquit, ejus cui misertus ero, hoc est, rjus miserebor, cui præscius eram quod misericordiam daturus essem, sciens conversurum illum, ct permansurum apud me : Et misericordiam prœstabo illi, cui misericordiam præ.,;tero, id est, ei misericordiam dabo, quem praescivi post errorem recto corde reversurum ad me. Hoc est dare illi, cui dandum est: et non dare illi, cui dandum non est; ut eum vocet, quem sciat obaudire : illum autem non vocet, quem sciat minime obaudire. c Vocare autem est non puguare, sed compungere ad recipiendam fidem.
“For he says to Moses: I will have mercy on whom I have had mercy, and I will show compassion to whom I have shown compassion.” “I will have mercy,” he says, “on whom I have had mercy,” that is, I will have mercy on him to whom I foreknew I would give mercy, knowing that he would turn and remain with me; “and I will show compassion to him to whom I have shown compassion,” that is, I will give mercy to him whom I foreknew would return to me with an upright heart after error. This is to give to him to whom it should be given, and not to give to him to whom it should not be given; so as to call the one he knows will obey, but not call the one he knows will not obey at all. And to call is not to fight but to prick the heart to receive faith.
Rom 9:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:19 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: God shows mercy to those he foreknows will turn and remain with him; his call pricks the heart rather than compels.
- Quotation: Exod 33:19.
Cite (SBL): Ambrosiaster, Rom. 9.15 (PL 17:135; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/ambrosiaster-romanos/9-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin (PL 17); re-read against the Latin, since no public-domain English exists.