Replies on behalf of Augustine to the Objections of the Gauls (complete)
Latin text: Migne, PL 51 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Preface
0PL 51:157
S. PROSPERI AQUITANI PRO AUGUSTINO RESPONSIONES AD CAPITULA OBJECTIONUM GALLORUM CALUMNIANTIUM. Praefatio. Doctrinam, quam sanctæ memoriae Augustimis episcopus contra Pelagianos inimicos gratiæ Christi, et liberi arbitrii decomptores, per multos annos apostolice asseruit, litterisque mandavit, quibusdam visum est, aut non intelligendo, aut intelligi eam nolendo, reprehendere: et hoc quasi compendium cognitionis his qui judicio eorum ducebantur, afferre; ut quæ in libris prædicti viri damnabilia se reperisse jactabant, brevium capitulorum indiculis publicarent: talique commento et detestationem ejus quem impeterent, obtinerent; et ab his quæ infamassent, curam exterriti lectoris averterent. Ne ergo hanc persuasionem temere quis recipiat, et talem putet sensum acriptis catholici inesse doctoris, qualem e.um qui frustra calumniantur ostentant; singulis capitulis quae damnationis titulo prænotarunt, brevi et absoluta professione respondeo: in nullo recedens a tra mite carum definitionum quæ in sancti viri disputa- tionibus continentur: ut facile vel tenuis diligentiæ advertat inspector, quam injuslis opprobriis catholici prædicatoris memoria carpatur; et in qupd peccatum cadant qui. aliena instigatione commoti,.scriptorem celeberrimi nominis promptius habeant culpare quam nosse. PARS PRIMA. SINGULIS OBJECTIONIBUS SINGULÆ RESPONSIONES.
Saint Prosper of Aquitaine, on behalf of Augustine: Answers to the headings of the objections of the slandering Gauls. Preface. The teaching which Augustine, the bishop of holy memory, asserted in apostolic fashion for many years and committed to writing against the Pelagians, enemies of the grace of Christ and corrupters of free choice, some have seen fit to censure, either from not understanding it or from not wishing it to be understood; and to offer this as a kind of summary of knowledge to those who were led by their judgment, publishing in little lists of brief headings the things they boasted of having found worthy of condemnation in the books of the said man; so that by such a device they might both obtain hatred for the man they attacked and turn away the frightened reader's attention from what they had defamed. Lest anyone, then, rashly accept this persuasion and think that such a sense is in the writings of the catholic teacher as those who slander him in vain make out, I answer each heading which they have marked with the title of condemnation by a brief and complete profession, departing in nothing from the path of the definitions contained in the holy man's discussions; so that even an examiner of slight diligence may easily notice with what unjust reproaches the memory of the catholic preacher is torn, and into what sin they fall who, stirred by another's prompting, would rather blame a writer of most celebrated name than know him. Part One: To each objection, its answer.
Notes and citation
Summary: Prosper introduces his answers to a Gallic list of objections drawn from Augustine's writings.
- Written ca. 431–432. The digital text is uncorrected OCR of Migne (PL 51); Migne's column numbers and footnote markers are removed by logged corrections, and minor letter slips are translated by sense. The staged text ends with the opening of Part Two (the short “sentences” restating each answer), which is not present here.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; stray footnote marker and Migne column number; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray mark and OCR slip): CALUMNIANTIUM a. Praefatio. 203 Doctrinam → CALUMNIANTIUM. Praefatio. Doctrinam; indiculis a publicarent → indiculis publicarent; commento « et detestatinem → commento et detestationem; lectoris 204 averterent → lectoris averterent; nominis a promptius → nominis promptius.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. pref. (PL 51:157; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/0). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 51 (noisy archive.org OCR; Migne's column numbers, notes and footnote markers removed by logged corrections). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.
Chapter 1
1PL 51:157
OBJECTIO. Quod ex prædestinatione Dei, velut fatali necessitate, homines ad peccala compulsi cogantur in mortem. RESPONSIO. Praedestinationem Dei nullus catholicus Christianus negat: fatalcm autem necessitatem multi etiam non Christiani refutant. Peccatum ergo ad mortem trahit; sed ad poccandum neminem Deus cogit. Nemini enim mandavit impie agere (Eccli. xv, 21);b et: Odisti, Domine, omnes qui operantur iniquitatem; perdes eos qui loquuntur mendacium (Psalm. v, 7). Proinde qui prædestinationis nomine fatum prædicat, tam non est probandus quam qui fati nonine veritatem prædestinationis infamat. Fati enim opinio vana est, et de falsitate concepta: prædestinationis autem fides multa sanctarum auctoritate Scripturarum munita est, cui nullo modo fas est ea quæ ah hominibus male aguntur ascribi; qui in proclivitatem cadendi non ex conditione Dei, sed ex primi patris prævaricatione venerunt. De cujus poena nemo liberatur, nisi per gratiam Domini nostri Jesu Christi, pæparatam et prædestinatam in æterno consilio Dei ante constitutionem mundi.
Objection. That by the predestination of God, as by a fatal necessity, people are driven to sins and forced into death. Answer. No catholic Christian denies the predestination of God; but fatal necessity is rejected even by many who are not Christians. Sin, then, draws to death; but God forces no one to sin. For “he has commanded no one to act impiously”; and: “You hate, Lord, all who work iniquity; you will destroy those who speak a lie.” Therefore whoever preaches fate under the name of predestination is as little to be approved as whoever defames the truth of predestination under the name of fate. For the opinion of fate is vain and conceived from falsehood; but faith in predestination is fortified by much authority of the holy Scriptures, and to it the evil things done by human beings may in no way be ascribed, since they came into their proneness to fall not from God's creation but from the transgression of the first father. From his penalty no one is set free except through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, prepared and predestined in the eternal counsel of God before the foundation of the world.
Ps 5:5–6 (5:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Predestination is not fate: God forces no one to sin; sin comes from Adam's fall, and deliverance only from predestined grace.
- Sir 15:20 (15:21 Vulg.); Ps 5:5–6 (5:7 Vulg.); Eph 1:4.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slip and Migne column number; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray marker and OCR slip): nullus catholicus a Christianus → nullus catholicus Christianus; OBSECTIO. 205 Quod → OBJECTIO. Quod; falum prædicat → fatum prædicat; qui J in proclivilatem → qui in proclivitatem; ex i primi patris → ex primi patris; venerunt. e De cujus → venerunt. De cujus; prædestinatam 206in → prædestinatam in.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 15:20 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Election and predestination
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 1 (PL 51:157; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 2
2PL 51:157
OBJECTIO. Quod ab eis qui non sunt prædestinati ad vitam, non auferat percepta baplismi gratia originale peccatum. RESPONSIO. Omnis homo qui credens. in Patrem, ct Filium, et Spiritum sanctum, regeneratur in baptismo, tam a propriis peccatis quæ mala voluntate et actione contraxit, quam ab originali quod a parentibus traxit, absolvitur. Sed relapsum post baptismum ad infi delitatem et impios mores, qui negat originali peccato fuisse purgatum, tam falsa opinatur quam qui eumdem asserit non æterna morte esse damnandum. Qui enim recedit a Christo, et alienus a gratia finit hanc vitam, quid nisi in perditionem cadit? Sed non in id quod remissum est recidit, nec in originali peccato damnabitur, qui tamen, propter postrema crimina, ea morte afficietur quae ei propter illa quæ remissa sunt debebatur. Quod quia Dei præscientiam nec latuit, nec fefellit, sine dubio talem numquam elegit, numquam prædestinavit, et periturum numquam ab æterna perditione discrevit.
Objection. That from those who are not predestined to life, the grace of baptism received does not take away original sin. Answer. Every person who, believing in the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, is reborn in baptism is absolved both from his own sins, which he contracted by evil will and action, and from the original sin which he drew from his parents. But whoever denies that one who has fallen back after baptism into unbelief and impious conduct was purged of original sin is as false in his opinion as whoever asserts that the same man is not to be condemned to eternal death. For whoever withdraws from Christ and ends this life a stranger to grace, what does he fall into but perdition? Yet he does not fall back into what has been forgiven, nor will he be condemned in original sin; but he will, because of his later crimes, be visited with that death which was owed him for the things that were forgiven. Because this neither escaped nor deceived the foreknowledge of God, without doubt he never chose such a man, never predestined him, and never set him apart, as one who would perish, from eternal perdition.
Notes and citation
Summary: Baptism truly forgives original sin even in those who later apostatize; they are condemned for their later sins, and God, foreseeing this, never predestined them.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slips; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray letters in the digital text): QDJECTIO. Quod ab et: qui → OBJECTIO. Quod ab eis qui; in baptismo,f tam → in baptismo, tam; et It alienus → et alienus; recidit, i nec → recidit, nec; numquam i ab æterna → numquam ab æterna.
Topics: Baptism, Original sin and concupiscence
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 2 (PL 51:157; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 3
3PL 51:157–159
OBJECTIO. Quod non prædestinati ad vitam, etiamsi fuerint in Christo per baptismum regenerati, et pie justeque vixerint, nihil eis prosit; sed tamdiu reserventur, donec ruant et pereant; nec ante cos ex hac vita, quam hoc eis contingat, auferri. RESPONSIO. A sanctitate ad immunditiam, a iustitia ad iniquitatem, a fide ad impietatem plerosque transire non dubium est: et ad tales prædestinationem filiorum Dei et cohæredum Christi non pertinere certissimum est. Quod ergp hujuspodi in hæc prolapsi mala sine correctione pænitentiæ defecerunt, non ex eo necessitatem pereundi habuerunt, quia prædestinati non sunt: sed ideo prædestinati non sunt, quia tales futuri ex voluntaria prævaricatione pra. sciti sunt. Quod autem illos non eo tempore quo in fide recta et bonis moribus erant, ab hac vita Deus abstulit, ad occulta ejus judicia, quæ tamen num. quam sunt injusta, referendum est. Quis enim nesciat intra unam conditionem mortalitatis humanæ, ab unius horæ infantia, usque ad annosissimam senectutem, exitus morientium, impari ætatis fine variari; neque cujusquam animam, vel citius vel tardius quam Deus voluerit, a corpore quod vivificat abscedere? Si ergo aliquis in vitæ suæ longitudine deseruit Denm; bono, quod erat ex Deo, male usus est. Nam longævitas non est nisi ex Deo. Et quod ex Deo est, nonnisi bonum est: et quod bonum est, mali causa non est. Non itaque recte opinatur qui putat prorogatorem vitæ, lapsuris auctorem csse peccati: cum utique non peccatum sit diu vivere, sed male vivere: quod etiam in paucorum annorum ætate fieri potest. Igitur sicut bona opera ad inspiratorem eorum Deum, ita mala ad eos sunt referenda qui peccant. Non enim relicti sunt a Deo, ut relinquerent Dcurn: sed reliquerunt, et relicti sunt, et ex bono in malum propria voluntate mutati sunt: atque ab hoc licet fuerint renati, fuerint justificati, ab eo tamen qui illos tales praescivit non sunt prædestinati.
Objection. That for those not predestined to life, even if they have been reborn in Christ through baptism and have lived devoutly and justly, it profits them nothing; but they are kept until they fall and perish, and are not taken from this life before this happens to them. Answer. That many pass from holiness to uncleanness, from righteousness to iniquity, from faith to impiety, is not doubtful; and it is most certain that the predestination of the sons of God and co-heirs of Christ does not belong to such. That those of this kind who fell into these evils died without the correction of repentance, then, did not come from a necessity of perishing because they were not predestined; rather, they were not predestined because they were foreknown as going to be such by voluntary transgression. And that God did not take them from this life at the time when they were in right faith and good conduct is to be referred to his hidden judgments, which yet are never unjust. For who does not know that within the one condition of human mortality, from the infancy of a single hour to the most aged old age, the departures of the dying vary with unequal ends of life, and that no one's soul leaves the body it gives life to sooner or later than God has willed? If, then, someone in the length of his life has deserted God, he has used badly a good that was from God. For long life is only from God; and what is from God is only good; and what is good is not the cause of evil. So he does not think rightly who supposes that the one who prolongs life is the author of sin for those who will fall, since surely it is not a sin to live long, but to live badly, which can happen even at an age of few years. Therefore, as good works are to be referred to God who inspires them, so evil works are to be referred to those who sin. For they were not forsaken by God so that they might forsake God; but they forsook, and were forsaken, and were changed from good to evil by their own will; and so, although they had been reborn, had been justified, yet they were not predestined by him who foreknew them to be such.
Rom 8:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Those who fall away after baptism were not predestined because God foreknew their voluntary fall; their fall is their own, not caused by God's giving them long life.
- Co-heirs of Christ: Rom 8:17. On God's hidden judgments in the timing of death compare Augustine, *Rebuke and Grace* 13.40; *Gift of Perseverance* 8.19.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number and stray footnote marker; Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slip and stray marker; OCR slip for the question mark; stray footnote marker and OCR slip; stray footnote marker in the digital text): OBJECTIO. 207 Quod 1 non → OBJECTIO. Quod non; nihit eis prosit → nihil eis prosit; dones ruant → donec ruant; plerosque 1 tramsire → plerosque transire; babuerunt, o quia → habuerunt, quia; prædestinati nOli sunt → prædestinati non sunt; usque a ad annosissimam → usque ad annosissimam; exitus monentium → exitus morientium; abscedere i Si ergo → abscedere? Si ergo; Nam a longævitas → Nam longævitas; mutati sunt: 208 atque → mutati sunt: atque.
Topics: Election and predestination, Perseverance
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 3 (PL 51:157–159; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 4
4PL 51:159
OBJECTIO. Quod non omnes homines vocentur ad gratiam. RESPONSlO. Non omnes vocari ad gratiam eos quibus omnibus Evangelium prædicatur, non recte dicitur; etiamsi sint qui Evangelio non obediunt: nisi ad eos respiciatur quibus nondum sacramentum crucis Christi et redemptio sanguins ejus innotuit. Quia etiamsi constaret quod jam in universis nationibus et omni- bus finibus terræ totus mundus Evangelium recepisset (quod utique futurum verissime prænutiatum est), non esset tamen dubium, a tempore resurrectionis Domini usque ad prae entem ætatem fuisse homines qui ab hac vita sine Evangelii cognitione transierunt, de quibus dici possit quod vocati non sint, quia nec spem vucationis audierint. Quod si quisquam hanc vocationis plenariam generalitatem ita semper asserit celebratam, ut ab ascensione Domini in cœlum ne unus quidem annus effluxerit intra quem non ad omnes prædicatio missa pervenerit; videat quomodo tunc Asianos vocatos probet, quando apostoli, sicut scriptum est, vetiti sunt a Spiritu sancto loqui verbum Dei in Asia (Act. XVI, 7); aut Bithynios, ad quos iidem apostoli tentabant ire, et non permisit eos Spiritus Jesu. Videat etiam quomodo tueatur denuntiationem ipsius Veritatis, dicentis: Prædicabitur hoc Evangelium regni in universo orbe, in testimonium omnibus gentibus, et tunc veniet finis (Matth. xxiv, 14). Nutat namque (quod dici nefas est) fides verbi, si ante quadringentos annos Evangelio impletus est mundus, et adhuc Domini differtur adventus. Postremo respiciantur etiam inter Christianos populos tot millia parvulo rum, qui ab hac vita sine baptismo transierunt et aliquo modo probentur vocati, quibus nec plantator prædicare. nec rigator potuit subvenire.
Objection. That not all people are called to grace. Answer. It is not rightly said that those to all of whom the Gospel is preached are not all called to grace, even if there are those who do not obey the Gospel; unless one looks to those to whom the mystery of the cross of Christ and the redemption of his blood has not yet become known. For even if it were established that the whole world had already received the Gospel in all nations and all the ends of the earth (which indeed has been most truly foretold as going to happen), it would still not be doubtful that from the time of the Lord's resurrection to the present age there have been people who passed from this life without knowledge of the Gospel, of whom it could be said that they were not called, since they did not even hear the hope of the calling. And if anyone asserts that this complete universality of the calling was always so carried out that, from the Lord's ascension into heaven, not even one year passed within which the preaching sent to all did not reach them, let him see how he can prove that the people of Asia were called then, when the apostles, as it is written, were forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word of God in Asia; or the Bithynians, to whom the same apostles tried to go, and the Spirit of Jesus did not permit them. Let him see also how he will uphold the declaration of the Truth himself, saying: “This Gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world, as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.” For the faithfulness of the word wavers (which it is impious to say) if the world was filled with the Gospel four hundred years ago and the Lord's coming is still deferred. Finally, let them also look at the many thousands of little children, even among Christian peoples, who have passed from this life without baptism, and let it be proved in some way that they were called, whom neither the planter could preach to nor the waterer help.
Acts 16:6–7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 24:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:6–7 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Not all have been called: many died without hearing the Gospel, the apostles were kept from Asia and Bithynia, the Gospel has not yet reached all nations, and unbaptized infants were never called.
- Acts 16:6–7; Matt 24:14; 1 Cor 3:6–7.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip and stray marker; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray footnote markers in the digital text): Quod non omnes e homines → Quod non omnes homines; cognitione i transierunt, i de quibus → cognitione transierunt, de quibus; Erangelium o regni → Evangelium regni; finit (Matth. xxiv, 14). Nutat namque (quod P dici → finis (Matth. xxiv, 14). Nutat namque (quod dici.
Topics: Mission and the spread of the gospel
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 4 (PL 51:159; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 5
5PL 51:159
OBJECTIO. Quod qui vocati sunt, non æqualiter sint vocati. sed alii ut crederent, alii ut non crederent. RESPONSIO. Si vocatio in Evangelii tantum prædicatione intelligatur, non veraciter dicitur quod aliis atque aliis aliter atque aliter prædicetur, cum unus sit Deus, una fides, una regeneratio, una promissio. Si autem ad effectum plantationis ei rigationis aspicitur, aliud actum est cum eis quorum exteriores aures corporaii voce pulsatæ sunt; aliud in eis quorum interiorem sensum Deus aperuit, et in quorum corde posuit fidei fundamentum dilectionisque fervorem. Quosdam autem ideo vocatos dicere ut non crederent, nimis absurdum est: quasi vucatio eis causa infidelitatis exstiterit, et prædicatio fidei fecerit infideles. Quamvis enim dispensatores verbi Dei quibusdam sint, sicut scriptum est, odor vitæ ad vitam, quibusdam autem, odor mortis ad mortem ( II Cor. n, 16): Deo tamen bonus Christi sunt odor, qui praedicant Christum crucifixum, Judais quidem scandalum, gentibus autem stultitiam, ipsis autem vocatis Judicis et Græcis, Christum Dei virtutem et Dei sapientiam. Quod ergo rædicatus Christus crucifixus Judæis erat scandalum, et gentibus stubitia, humanæ voluntatis faciebat aversio: quod vero ipsis vocatis Judæis et Graecis Christus erat Dei virtus et Dei sapientia, divinae gratiæ præstabat operalio.
Objection. That those who are called are not called equally, but some so that they might believe, others so that they might not believe. Answer. If the calling is understood only in the preaching of the Gospel, it is not truly said that it is preached differently to different people, since there is one God, one faith, one regeneration, one promise. But if one looks to the effect of planting and watering, one thing has been done with those whose outer ears have been struck by a bodily voice, another in those whose inner sense God has opened, and in whose heart he has placed the foundation of faith and the fervour of love. But to say that some are called so that they might not believe is too absurd, as though the calling had been the cause of unbelief for them, and the preaching of faith had made them unbelievers. For although the stewards of God's word are, as it is written, to some the fragrance of life to life, to others the fragrance of death to death, yet they are the good fragrance of Christ to God, who preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles, but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. That Christ crucified, when preached, was a stumbling block to the Jews and foolishness to the Gentiles was the doing of the turning away of the human will; but that to those called, Jews and Greeks, Christ was the power of God and the wisdom of God was the work of divine grace.
Eph 4:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 2:15–16 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:23–24 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The outward call is the same for all; what differs is God's inward work in some hearts; no one is called in order not to believe.
- Eph 4:5; 1 Cor 3:6–7; Acts 16:14; 2 Cor 2:15–16; 1 Cor 1:23–24.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and Migne column number; OCR slips; lost space in the digital text; misplaced space in the digital text; stray marker in the digital text): OBJECTI0 209 Quod → OBJECTIO. Quod; vocatio inEvangelii → vocatio in Evangelii; rigationisa picitur → rigationis aspicitur; fundamentum T dilectionisque → fundamentum dilectionisque; ab surdum cat → absurdum est; et I rædicatio → et prædicatio.
Topics: Election and predestination
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 5 (PL 51:159; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/5
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Chapter 6
6PL 51:159–161
OBJECTIO. Quod liberum arbitrium in homine nihil sit: sed sive ad bonum, sive ad malum, prædestinatio Dei in hominibus operetur. RESPONSIO. Liberum arbitrium nihil esse, vel non esse, perperam dicitur: sed ante illuminationem fidei in tenebris illud et in umbra mortis agere, non recte negamur. Quoniam prinsquam a dominatione diaboli per Dei gratiam liheretur, in illo profundo jacet in quod se sua libertate demersit. Amat ergo languores suos, et pro sanitate habet quod ægrotare se nescit, donec prima hæc medela conferatur ægroto, ut incipiat nosse quod langueat, et possit opem medici desiderare, qua surgat. Justificatus itaque homo, id est, ex impio pius factus, nullo præcedente bono merito, accipit donum, quo dono acquirat et meritum: ut quod in illo inchoatum est per gratiam Christi, etiam per industriam liberi augeatur arLitrii; numquam remoto adjutorio Dei, sine quo nec proficere, nec permancre in bono quisquam potest. Prædestinationem autem Dei sive ad bonum, sive ad malum, in hominibus operari ineptissime dicitur, ut ad utrumque homines quadam necessitas videatur impellere, cum in bonis voluntas sit intelligenda de gratia, in malis autem voluntas intelligenda sine gratia.
Objection. That free choice in man is nothing, but that the predestination of God works in people, whether to good or to evil. Answer. It is wrongly said that free choice is nothing or does not exist; but we are not rightly denied in saying that before the enlightenment of faith it acts in darkness and in the shadow of death. For before it is set free from the dominion of the devil by the grace of God, it lies in that depth into which it plunged itself by its own liberty. So it loves its sicknesses, and takes for health the fact that it does not know it is sick, until this first remedy is given to the sick, that he begins to know that he is ill and can desire the help of the physician by which he may rise. So a man justified, that is, made devout from impious, with no good merit going before, receives a gift by which gift he may acquire merit too; so that what was begun in him by the grace of Christ may also be increased by the diligence of free choice, the help of God never being removed, without which no one can either advance or remain in good. But it is most foolishly said that the predestination of God works in people either to good or to evil, as if some necessity seemed to drive people to both; since in the good the will is to be understood as from grace, but in the evil the will is to be understood as without grace.
Luke 1:79 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 9:12 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Free choice exists, but before grace it is sick and in darkness; grace, without prior merit, gives the gift by which merit is gained; predestination does not drive people to evil.
- Luke 1:79; the sick and the physician: Matt 9:12.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slips; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray marker in the digital text; word split in the digital text): ad malum, a prædestinatio → ad malum, prædestinatio; homini us operetur → hominibus operetur; agcre, non recte negamur → agere, non recte negamur; jacet 210 in quod → jacet in quod; a grotare se nescit, donec prima h:rc medela → ægrotare se nescit, donec prima hæc medela; quo dnno acquirat → quo dono acquirat; quisquan) potest → quisquam potest; utrumque Immines → utrumque homines; de gratia, o in malis → de gratia, in malis.
Topics: Free will
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 6 (PL 51:159–161; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 7
7PL 51:161
OBJECTIO. Quod Deus quibusdam filiis suis, quos regeneravit in ChristO, quibus fidem, spem, dilectionem dedit, ob hoc non det perseverantiam, quia non sunt a massa perditionis præscientia Dei et prædestinatione discreti. RESPONSiO. Ex regeneratis in Christo Jesu, quosdam relicta fide et piis moribus, apostatare a Deo, et impiam vitam in sua aversione finire, multis (quod dolendum est) probatur exemplis. Sed horum lapsum Deo ascribere, immodicae pravitatis est: quasi ideo ruinae ipsorum impulsor atque auctor sit, quia illos ruituros propria ipsorum voluntate præscivit, et ob hoc a filiis perditionis nulla prædestinatione discrevit. Nam quomodo eos haberet præordinata in Christo electio, quos discedentes a Christo habitura erat justa damnatio. Cum autem dubium non sit donum Dei esse perseverantiam in bono usque ad finem, quam istos, ex eo ipso quod non perseveraverunt, non habuisse manifestum est; non est calumniandum Deo, quare istis non dederit quod aliis dedil; sed confitendum est et misericorditer eum dedisse quod dedit, et juste non dedisse quod non dedit: ne quemadmodum ex libero arbitro oritur causa labendi, ita ex ipso oriri videatur et standi; cum illud humano fiat opere, hoc divino impleatur ex munere.
Objection. That God does not give perseverance to some of his sons, whom he has regenerated in Christ and to whom he has given faith, hope and love, for this reason, that they have not been set apart from the mass of perdition by God's foreknowledge and predestination. Answer. That some of those regenerated in Christ Jesus abandon faith and devout conduct, apostatize from God and end an impious life in their turning away is shown (which is to be grieved over) by many examples. But to ascribe their fall to God is an extreme of perversity, as though he were the instigator and author of their ruin because he foreknew that they would fall by their own will, and for that reason did not set them apart from the sons of perdition by any predestination. For how could the election preordained in Christ hold those whom, departing from Christ, a just condemnation was going to hold? But since it is not doubtful that perseverance in good to the end is a gift of God, and it is plain that these did not have it, from the very fact that they did not persevere, God is not to be slandered as to why he did not give these what he gave others; rather, it must be confessed both that he gave in mercy what he gave, and that he justly did not give what he did not give; lest, as the cause of falling arises from free choice, the cause of standing too should seem to arise from it, since the one is done by human work, the other is fulfilled by divine gift.
Rom 9:21 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Some regenerated fall away by their own will; perseverance is God's gift, given in mercy to some and justly not given to others.
- Rom 9:21–23 (the mass); Matt 24:13. Compare Augustine, *Gift of Perseverance* 1.1; 8.16.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slip and stray footnote marker; lost parenthesis in the digital text; stray footnote marker in the digital text): Ex regeneratis in Christo Jesn → Ex regeneratis in Christo Jesu; multis (quod dolendum est probatur → multis (quod dolendum est) probatur; Dco ascribere → Deo ascribere; eos haheret i præordinata → eos haberet præordinata; non dedisse 211 quod → non dedisse quod; ex ipso 1 oriri → ex ipso oriri.
Topics: Perseverance
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 7 (PL 51:161; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 8
8PL 51:161–163
OBJECTIO. Quod non omnes homines velit Deus salvos fieri, sed certum numerum pradestinatorum. RESPONSIO. Si circa universitatem generis humani salvandam et in agnitionem veritatis vocandam, ita indifferens per omnia sæcula asserenda est voluntas Dei, ut usquequaque neminem hominum prætermisisse monstretur; impenetrabilis judiciorum Dei altitudo pulsatur. Quare enim in præteritis sæculis dimiserit Deus omnes gentes ingredi vias suas (Act. XIV, 2), quando Jacob elegit sibi Dominus (Paul. CXXXIV, 4); et non fecit taliter omni nationi, et judicia sua non manifestavit eis ( Psal. CXLVII, 20): et cur qui aliquando non populus, nunc autem populus Dei sit; et quorum aliquando non misertus est, nunc autem miserealur ( I Petr. it, 10 ); et ubi dictum est, Non plebs mea vos, ibi vocentur filii Dei vivi (Osee II, 24); et quare quod quaerebat Israel non sit consecutus, electio autem consecuta est (Rom. IX, 26); cæteri vero excæcati sunt ( Rom. XI, 7); impossibile est comprehendere, et periculosæ curiositatis est quærere: cum tamen, quod nulla sit apud Deum iniquitas (II Par. XIX, 7), nemini liceat ignorare: nec alia gratia aut alia fide quenquam hominum, sive ante legem. sive legis tempore justificatum esse credendum sit, quam hac eadem per quam Dominus noster Jesus Christus, secundum consilium voluntatis suae, in fine sæculorum venit quærere et salvare quod perierat. Causas vero operum et judiciorum Dei, qui ex toto ad humanas voluntates et actiones refert, quas tamen in parvulorum adoptione aut abdicatione non invenit, et dispensationes Dei ex liberi arbitrii vult mutabilitate variari, profitetur sibi scrutabilia judicia Dei et vestigabiles vias ejus: ei quod doctor gentium Paulus non audebat attingere (Rom. si, 53), hic se existimat reseratam posse vulgare: quodque non minoris impietatis est, ipsam gratiam, qua salvamur; aut bonis meritis docet rependi, aut malis affirmat arceri. Remoto ergo obscurarum turbine quæstionum, ad revelatæ nos gratiæ latitudinem conferamus; dicamusque cum Apostolo, Quoniam Deus vult omnes homines salvos fieri, et in agnitionem veritatis venire ( I Tim. II, 4). Et iterum dicamus cum Apostolo, Qui est salvator omnium, maxime fidelium ( I Tim. IV, 10). Et audiamns Dominum dicentem apostolis suis, Euntes ergo, docete omnes gentes, baptizantes eos in nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus sancti, docentes eos servare omnia quæcumque mandavi vobis (Matth. XXVIII, 19). Audiamus quoque ad Abraham promissionem Dei dicentis In semine tuo benedicentur omnes tribus terræ (Genes. XXII, 18): et si Filii promissionis sumus, non haesitemus diffidentia (Rom. IV, 20), sed cum patre nostro Abrabam demus gloriam Deo, et plenissime credamus, quoniam quod promisit, potens est et facere (Ibid., 21). Audtamus David prophetantem, Commemorabuntur et convertentur ad Dominum universi fines terræ, et odorabunt in conspeetu ejus omnes patriæ gentium (Psal. XXI, 28). Et alibi, Et benedicentur in ipso omnes tribus terræ, omnes gentes magnificubunt eum (Psal. LXXI, 17). Et alibi, Omnes gentes quascumque fecisti, venient et adorabunt coram te, Domine, et glorificabunt nomen tuum (Psal. LXXXV, 9). Quae promissiones quia verissimæ sunt, nec possunt ex ulla parte I nntare, in his implentur qui salvi fiunt per universos fines terrae: quoniam quod promisit Deus, potens est et facene (Rom. IV, 21). Hæc ergo est illa totius humani generis assumptio, haec filiorum Dei adoptio, hæc gentium plenitudo, praEscita et prædestinata in Christo ante mundi constitutionem. Hæc est Jerusalem, quæ ab initio usque in finem lapidibus vivis et clectis ædificatur ( I Petr n, 5), ut civitas fundata in ipso angulari lapide Christo Jesu, in quo omnis ædificatio constructa (Ephes. II, 20. 21), crescit in templum sanctum in Domino. De his lapidibus nibil eji- citur, nihil minutur, nihil rapitur. Veritas enim dicit, Omne quod dat mihi Pater, veniet ad me, ct eum qui venit, ad me, non ejiciam foras ( Joan. VI, 37). Et iterum (Joan. x, 26), Non creditis, quia non estis de ovibus meis. Oves meæ vocem meam audiunt, et ego novi illas, et sequuntur me, et ego vitam æternam do illis, et non peribunt in æternum, nec quisquam rapiet eas de manu mea. Omnium ergo hominum cura est Deo: et nemo est quem non aut Evangelica prædicatio, aut Legis testificatio, aut ipsa etiam natura conveniat. Sed infidelitatem hominum ipsis ascribamus hominibus: fidem autem hominum donum Dei esse fateamur, sine cujus gratia nemo currit ad gratiam. Et cum ducentis quatuordecim sacerdotibus, quorum constitutionem contra inimicos gratiæ Dei totus mundus amplex us est, veraci professione, quemadmodum ipsorum habet sermo, dicamus, gratia Dei per Jesum Christum Dominum, non solum ad cognoscendam, verum etiam ad faciendam justitiam nos per actus singulos adjuvari: ita ut sine illa nihil veræ sanctæ que pietatis cogitare, dicere, agere valeamus. Neque hæc dona ita ex Deo esse opinemur, ut quia ipse naturo nostræ auctor est, per conditionem jam hæc contulisse videatur. Quia dedit quidem ab initio hanc homini facultatem; sed omnes eam in illo amisimus, in quo omnes peccavimus. Unde alia creatione, alioque principio renovari ege- mus in Chiristo: in quo sumus nova creatura, no. vumque figmentum; et per quem nobis, nullis bonis et multis malis meritis præcedentibus, donatur ut simus ex vasis iræ vasa misericordiæ.
Objection. That God does not will all people to be saved, but a fixed number of the predestined. Answer. If the will of God concerning the salvation of the whole human race and its calling to the knowledge of the truth is to be asserted as so undifferentiated through all ages that it is shown to have passed over absolutely no human being, the impenetrable depth of God's judgments is assailed. For why in past ages God let all the nations walk in their own ways, when the Lord chose Jacob for himself, and did not deal thus with every nation, and did not make his judgments known to them; and why those who were once not a people are now the people of God, and those on whom he once had no mercy now receive mercy; and where it was said, “You are not my people,” there they are called sons of the living God; and why what Israel sought it did not obtain, but the election obtained it, and the rest were blinded: this is impossible to comprehend, and it is dangerous curiosity to inquire into it; while yet no one may be ignorant that there is no iniquity with God, and that it is not to be believed that any human being, whether before the law or in the time of the law, was justified by any other grace or other faith than this same one, through which our Lord Jesus Christ, according to the counsel of his will, came at the end of the ages to seek and save what was lost. But whoever refers the causes of God's works and judgments wholly to human wills and actions, which yet he does not find in the adoption or rejection of little children, and would have God's dispensations vary according to the changeableness of free choice, professes that God's judgments are searchable and his ways traceable; and what Paul, the teacher of the Gentiles, did not dare to touch, this man thinks he can publish as unlocked; and, what is no less impious, he teaches that grace itself, by which we are saved, is either paid to good merits or affirms that it is kept off by evil ones. Setting aside, then, the whirlwind of obscure questions, let us betake ourselves to the breadth of revealed grace; and let us say with the apostle that God wills all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. And again let us say with the apostle: “who is the Saviour of all, especially of believers.” And let us hear the Lord saying to his apostles: “Go therefore, teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.” Let us hear also the promise of God to Abraham, saying: “In your seed all the tribes of the earth will be blessed”; and if we are sons of the promise, let us not waver in distrust, but with our father Abraham give glory to God and believe most fully that what he has promised he is able also to do. Let us hear David prophesying: “All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations will worship before him.” And elsewhere: “And in him all the tribes of the earth will be blessed; all nations will magnify him.” And elsewhere: “All the nations you have made will come and worship before you, Lord, and will glorify your name.” Since these promises are most true and cannot waver in any part, they are fulfilled in those who are saved throughout all the ends of the earth, since what God has promised he is able also to do. This, then, is that taking up of the whole human race, this the adoption of the sons of God, this the fullness of the nations, foreknown and predestined in Christ before the foundation of the world. This is the Jerusalem which from the beginning to the end is built of living and chosen stones, so that the city founded on the cornerstone itself, Christ Jesus, in whom the whole building is constructed, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. Of these stones nothing is thrown out, nothing is diminished, nothing is snatched away. For the Truth says: “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and him who comes to me I will not cast out.” And again: “You do not believe because you are not of my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me, and I give them eternal life, and they will not perish for ever, nor will anyone snatch them from my hand.” God, then, cares for all people; and there is no one whom either the preaching of the Gospel, or the testimony of the law, or even nature itself does not address. But let us ascribe the unbelief of people to people themselves, and confess that the faith of people is the gift of God, without whose grace no one runs to grace. And with the two hundred and fourteen bishops, whose decree against the enemies of God's grace the whole world has embraced, let us say with truthful profession, as their own words have it, that by the grace of God through Jesus Christ our Lord we are helped in each single act not only to know but also to do righteousness, so that without it we can think, say or do nothing of true and holy devotion. Nor let us suppose that these gifts are from God in such a way that, because he is the author of our nature, he seems to have conferred them already through our creation. For he did indeed give man this ability at the beginning; but we all lost it in him in whom we all sinned. Hence we need to be renewed by another creation and another beginning in Christ, in whom we are a new creature and a new making, and through whom it is given us, with no good merits and many evil ones going before, that from vessels of wrath we should be vessels of mercy.
Acts 14:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 135:4 (134:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 147:20 (147:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 2:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Hos 1:10 (2:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Chr 19:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 19:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 11:33 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 4:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:19–20 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:20–21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:27 (21:28 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 72:17 (71:17 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 86:9 (85:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 2:20–21 (allusion, high confidence) · John 6:37 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:26–28 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:12 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 9:22–23 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Why God has not called all in every age is hidden, yet God wills all to be saved in the sense that the promised fullness of the nations, predestined in Christ, will be saved; faith is God's gift, as the African bishops taught.
- Acts 14:16; Ps 135:4 (134:4 Vulg.); Ps 147:20; 1 Pet 2:10; Hos 1:10 (2:1 Vulg.); Rom 11:7; 2 Chr 19:7; Eph 1:11; Luke 19:10; Rom 11:33; 1 Tim 2:4; 4:10; Matt 28:19–20; Gen 22:18; Rom 4:20–21; Ps 22:27 (21:28 Vulg.); Ps 72:17 (71:17 Vulg.); Ps 86:9 (85:9 Vulg.); 1 Pet 2:5; Eph 2:20–21; John 6:37; 10:26–28; 2 Cor 5:17; Rom 9:22–23. The 214 bishops are the African council of 418 (Carthage), whose words Prosper quotes (compare its letter to Pope Zosimus). Several of Migne's references in the OCR are wrong (e.g. “Rom. IX, 26”, “Rom. si, 53”) and are corrected in the tags.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slip and stray marker; OCR slips; OCR slips and stray marker; stray footnote marker and Migne column number; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray marker and OCR slip; stray marker in the digital text; words joined in the digital text): indifferens III per omnia → indifferens per omnia; voluntas D<i, ut → voluntas Dei, ut; etnon fecit → et non fecit; populus Det sit; et qnorum → populus Dei sit; et quorum; miserealur ( I Petr. it, 10 ); o et uhi → miserealur ( I Petr. it, 10 ); et ubi; impossihile → impossibile; sivelegis → sive legis; ad Inmanas voluntates et act ones refert, quas tamen P in → ad humanas voluntates et actiones refert, quas tamen in; Paulus a non audebat → Paulus non audebat; reseratam 212 posse → reseratam posse; dicamusque e cum Apostolo → dicamusque cum Apostolo; docentes ess o servare → docentes eos servare; constitutionem. i Hæc est → constitutionem. Hæc est; Omne quod dat mihi Pat r, i veniet → Omne quod dat mihi Pater, veniet; illis, 1 et non peribunt 213 in → illis, et non peribunt in; quatuordecim acerdotibus → quatuordecim sacerdotibus; dicamus, o gratia Dei → dicamus, gratia Dei; pietatis P cogitare → pietatis cogitare; vasis irx vasa → vasis iræ vasa.
Topics: Election and predestination, Grace
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 8 (PL 51:161–163; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 9
9PL 51:163–165
OBJECTIO. Quod non pro totius mundi redemptione Salvator sit crucifixus. RESPONSIO. Nullus omnino est ex omnibus hominibus, cujus natura in Christo Domino nostro suscepta non fuerit: quamvis ille natus sit in similitudine carnis peccati (Rom. vin, 3), omnis autem homo nascatur in carne peccati. Deus ergo Dei Filius, mortalitatis humanæ particeps factus absque peccato, hoc peccatoribus et mortalibus contulit, ut qui nativitatis ejus consortes fuissent, vinculum peccati et mortis evaderent. Sicut itaque non sufficit hominum renovationi, natum esse hominem Jesum Christum, nisi in ipso eodem, de quo ipse ortus est, Spiritu renascantur: sic non sufficit hominum redemptioni, crucifixum esse Dominum Christum, nisi commoriantur ei et consepeliantur in baptismo. Alioquin nato Salvatore in carne substantiæ nostrae, et erucifixo pro omnibus nobis, non fuerat necessarium et renasceremur, et similitudini mortis ejus complantaremur (Rom. VI 5). Sed cum sine hoc sacramento nemo hominum consequatur vitam æternam, non est salvatus cruce Christi, qui non est crucifixus in Christo. Non est autem crucifixus in Christo, qui non est membrum corporis Christi, nec est membrum corporis Christi, qui non per aquam et Spiritum sanctum induit Christum. Qui ideo in infirmitate nostra communionem subiit mortis, ut nos in virtute cjus haberemus consortium resurrectionis. Cum itaque rectissime dicatur Salvator pro totius mundi redemptione crucifixus, propter veram humanæ naturæ susceptionem, et propter communem in primo homine omnium perditionem: potest tamen dici pro his tantum crucifixus quibus mors ipsius profuit. Dicit enim Evangelista, Quia Jesus moriturus erat pro gente, et non tantum pro gente, sed etiam ut filios Dei dispersos congregaret in unum (Joan. XI, 51). In sua enim venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri: qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis, neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt (Joan. I, 11). Diversa ergo ab istis sors eorum est qui inter illos censentur de quibus dicitur; Mundus eum non cognovit (Joan. I, 10). Ut possit secundum hoc dici: Redemptor mundi dedit pro mundo sanguinem suum, et mundus redimi noluit; quia lucem tenebrae non receperunt (Ibid., 5): et tenebrae receperunt, quibus dicit Apostolus, Fuistis aliquando tenebræ, nunc autem lux in Domino (Ephes. V, 8). Ipse vero Dominus Jesus, qui dixit se venisse quærere et salvare quod perierat: Non veni, inquit, nisi ad oves quæ perierant domus Israel (Matth. xv, 24). Sed quæ sint istae oves domus Israel apostolus Paulus exponit dicens: Non enim omnes qui ex Israel, hi sunt Israelitæ, neque qui semen sunt Abrahæ, omnes filii. sed in Isaac vocabitur tibi semen: id est non qui filii carnis, hi filii sunt Dei; sed qui filii sunt promissionis æstimantur in semine (Rom. IX, 6 et 7). In istis ergo sunt illi, de quibus dictum supra memoravimus: Quia Jesus moriturus erat pro gente, et non tantum pro gente, sed etiam ut filios Dei dispersos congregaret in unum (Joan. XI, 51). Quia non solum ex Judæis, sed etiam ex gentibus, per eum qui vocat quæ non sunt, tamquam quæ sunt (Rom. IV, 17), et qui dispersos Israel congregat (Paal. CXLVI, 2), filii Dei, filii promissionis in unam Ecclesiam congregantur: ut impleatur quod promissum est Abrahæ, cui dictum est, quod in semine ejus benedicendæ essent omnes tribus terrae (Gen. XII, 3).
Objection. That the Saviour was not crucified for the redemption of the whole world. Answer. There is absolutely no one among all human beings whose nature was not taken up in Christ our Lord, although he was born in the likeness of sinful flesh, while every human being is born in sinful flesh. God, then, the Son of God, made a sharer in human mortality without sin, conferred this on sinners and mortals: that those who had been partakers of his birth might escape the bond of sin and death. Just as, therefore, it does not suffice for the renewal of human beings that Jesus Christ was born a man, unless they are reborn in him by the same Spirit from whom he himself was born, so it does not suffice for the redemption of human beings that the Lord Christ was crucified, unless they die with him and are buried with him in baptism. Otherwise, the Saviour having been born in the flesh of our substance and crucified for all of us, it would not have been necessary for us both to be reborn and to be planted together in the likeness of his death. But since without this sacrament no human being attains eternal life, he is not saved by the cross of Christ who is not crucified in Christ. And he is not crucified in Christ who is not a member of the body of Christ; and he is not a member of the body of Christ who has not put on Christ through water and the Holy Spirit. He underwent communion in death in our weakness so that we might have fellowship in the resurrection in his power. Although, therefore, the Saviour is most rightly said to have been crucified for the redemption of the whole world, because of his true taking up of human nature and because of the common perdition of all in the first man, yet he can be said to have been crucified only for those whom his death profited. For the evangelist says that Jesus was to die for the nation, and not for the nation only, but to gather into one the children of God who were scattered. For he came to his own, and his own did not receive him; but as many as received him, to them he gave power to become children of God, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Different from these, then, is the lot of those who are counted among those of whom it is said: “The world did not know him.” So that in this sense it can be said: the Redeemer of the world gave his blood for the world, and the world was unwilling to be redeemed, because the darkness did not receive the light; yet there was darkness that received it, to whom the apostle says: “You were once darkness, but now light in the Lord.” The Lord Jesus himself, who said he had come to seek and save what was lost, says: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” But what these sheep of the house of Israel are, the apostle Paul explains, saying: “For not all who are of Israel are Israelites, nor are all the seed of Abraham his children; but in Isaac your seed shall be called; that is, not the children of the flesh are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as seed.” Among these, then, are those of whom we recalled that it was said above: that Jesus was to die for the nation, and not for the nation only, but to gather into one the children of God who were scattered. For not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles, through him who calls the things that are not as though they were, and who gathers the dispersed of Israel, the children of God, the children of the promise, are gathered into the one church; so that what was promised to Abraham may be fulfilled, to whom it was said that in his seed all the tribes of the earth would be blessed.
Rom 8:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 6:3–5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 3:27 (allusion, high confidence) · John 11:51–52 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:11–13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 19:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 15:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:6–8 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 147:2 (146:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 12:3 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ died for the whole world in that he took the nature of all, yet his death profits only those reborn and joined to him in baptism, the children of the promise from Jews and Gentiles.
- Rom 8:3; Rom 6:3–5; John 3:5; Gal 3:27; John 11:51–52; 1:11–13, 10, 5; Eph 5:8; Luke 19:10; Matt 15:24; Rom 9:6–8; 4:17; Ps 147:2 (146:2 Vulg.); Gen 12:3. The sentence “et mundos redimi noluit” in the OCR is read as “et mundus redimi noluit” and translated so. A doctrinally sensitive passage on the extent of the atonement, translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number and stray marker; Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slips; OCR slips and stray marker; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray letters in the digital text; stray marker and words joined; words joined in the digital text): Salvator Ii. crucifixus → Salvator sit crucifixus; hominibus. enjus natura → hominibus, cujus natura; qnamvis il!e natus → quamvis ille natus; hominem 214 a Jesum → hominem Jesum; et e similitudini mortis → et similitudini mortis; Christi, qui e non est → Christi, qui non est; omniuin perditionem → omnium perditionem; tantumcrucifixus → tantum crucifixus; non tantum pro eente → non tantum pro gente; Diversa ergoab istis → Diversa ergo ab istis; (Joan. I, 10). i Ut possit secundum hocdici → (Joan. I, 10). Ut possit secundum hoc dici; et mundos redimi nolnit; quia lucent tenebrae J non receperunt (Ibid., 5): ei tenebrae → et mundus redimi noluit; quia lucem tenebrae non receperunt (Ibid., 5): et tenebrae; quasrere → quærere; oves domos Israel → oves domus Israel; Non enirn omnes qui es Israel → Non enim omnes qui ex Israel; promissionis 215 æstimantur → promissionis æstimantur; (Rom. IX, 6 et 7). 1 In istis → (Rom. IX, 6 et 7). In istis; sed lIS etiam ex gentibus → sed etiam ex gentibus.
Topics: Christology, Baptism, Passion and death of Christ, The church and Israel
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 9 (PL 51:163–165; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 10
10PL 51:165–167
OBJECTIO. Quod quibusdam Evangelii prædicatio a Domino subtrahatur, ne percepta Evangelii prædicatione, salventur. RESPONSIO Si probari potest, quod ex quo Evangelium praedicatur, nemo prorsus fuerit cui Christiana gratia annuntiata non fuerit; non recte dicitur tacitum, quod ostenditur prædicatum. Si autem aliquo modo inveniuntur homines quibus Evangelium non fuerit prædicatum, non potest dici sine judicio Dei factum: quod nefas est ideo reprehendi, quia non potest comprehendi. CAPITULUM XI. OBJECTIO. Quod per potentiam Deus homines ad peccata compellat. RESPONSIO. Nullus catholicorum dixit aut dicit, quod Deus homines pie recteque viventes, per potentiam in peccata compellat, et innocentiæ humanae potestas divina vim faciat, ut eam a proposito bonae conversationis excutiat. Non sunt Dei opera ista, sed diaboli, cujus gaudium est ruina sanctorum: sed allevat Dominus omnes qui corruunt, et erigit omnes elisos (Psal. CXLIV, 14): quibus dat pœnitentiam, ut resipiscant a diaboli laqueis a quo captivi tenebantur ad ipsius voluntatem (II Tim. II, 25 et 26). Cum vero aliquos a Deo aut traditos desideriis suis (Rom. I, 24), aut obduratos legimus, aut relictos; magnis peccatis suis hoc ipsos meruisse profitemur: quia talia eorum crimina præcesserunt, ut ipsi sibi pœna fieri debuerint, quæ eis etiam supplicium verteret in reatum. Atque ita nec de judicio Dei querimur, quo deserit meritos deseri; et misericordiæ ejus gratias agimus, qua liberat non meritos liberari.
Objection. That the preaching of the Gospel is withdrawn from some by the Lord, so that they may not be saved by receiving the preaching of the Gospel. Answer. If it can be proved that, since the Gospel began to be preached, there has been absolutely no one to whom Christian grace has not been announced, it is not rightly said to have been kept silent, which is shown to have been preached. But if in any way people are found to whom the Gospel has not been preached, it cannot be said to have happened without the judgment of God; and it is impious to find fault with it because it cannot be comprehended. [11] Chapter XI. Objection. That God by his power compels people to sins. Answer. No catholic has said or says that God by his power compels people who live devoutly and rightly into sins, and that divine power does violence to human innocence so as to shake it from its resolve of good living. These are not the works of God but of the devil, whose joy is the ruin of the saints; but the Lord lifts up all who fall and raises up all who are crushed, to whom he gives repentance, that they may come to their senses from the snares of the devil, by whom they were held captive to his will. But when we read that some have been handed over by God to their desires, or hardened, or abandoned, we profess that they deserved this by their great sins; because such crimes of theirs went before that they had to become a punishment to themselves, which turned even their punishment into further guilt. And so we neither complain of the judgment of God, by which he deserts those who deserve to be deserted, and we give thanks to his mercy, by which he sets free those who do not deserve to be set free.
Ps 145:14 (144:14 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:25–26 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:24 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: If some have not heard the Gospel, this is by God's incomprehensible judgment; and God compels no one to sin, but justly abandons those whose sins deserve it.
- Ps 145:14 (144:14 Vulg.); 2 Tim 2:25–26; Rom 1:24. The section holds two of the objections: chapter 11 begins at “[11]”; the staged text has no separate ref 11.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slip in the heading; OCR slips; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray marker in the digital text; stray markers in the digital text; words joined in the digital text): subtrahatur, net percepta → subtrahatur, ne percepta; quod exquo Evangelium → quod ex quo Evangelium; Si autem o aliquo modo inveniuntur I homines → Si autem aliquo modo inveniuntur homines; CAPII ULUM XI. → CAPITULUM XI.; Deus homines P ad peccata → Deus homines ad peccata; Non sunt Dci opera → Non sunt Dei opera; captivi a tenebantur → captivi tenebantur; obduratos 216 legimus → obduratos legimus; nec de judscio Dei querimur, quo deserit meriios deseri; et misericordiæ ejus gratias asianus → nec de judicio Dei querimur, quo deserit meritos deseri; et misericordiæ ejus gratias agimus.
Topics: Mission and the spread of the gospel, Evil and its origin
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 10 (PL 51:165–167; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 12
12PL 51:167
OBJECTIO. Quod quibusdam vocatis, et pie justeque viventibus, obedientia subtrahitur, ut obedire desistant. RESPONSIO. Si Deus hominem sibi obedientem a pietate deturbat, et bene currentem cadere facit: ergo pro bonis mala retribuit, et injuste punit, quod ut fiat impellit. Quid tam perversum, quid tam insanum dici aut cogitari potest? Sed in talem sensum trahuntur qui putant in omnibus hoc esse præscientiam Dei quod et voluntatem: cum voluntas ejus numquam velit nisi bona, præscientia autem et bona noverit et mala: sed bona quæ aut ipse faciat, aut etiam ut nos faciamus, imperat: mala autem quæ omnino ipse non fecit, neque fieri suasit. aut impulit. Vires itaque obedientiæ non ideo cuiquam subtraxit quia eum non prædestinavit; sed ideo eum non prædestinavit, quia recessurum ab ipsa obedientia esse praevidit.
Objection. That from some who are called and live devoutly and justly, obedience is withdrawn so that they cease to obey. Answer. If God throws a man who obeys him out of devotion and makes one who is running well fall, then he repays evil for good and punishes unjustly what he drives to be done. What can be said or thought so perverse, so mad? But those are drawn into such a sense who think that in all things God's foreknowledge is the same as his will; whereas his will never wills anything but good, while his foreknowledge knows both good and evil: the good, which he either does himself or commands that we do; but the evil, which he himself did not do at all, nor persuaded or drove to be done. So he has not withdrawn the strength of obedience from anyone because he did not predestine him; but he did not predestine him because he foresaw that he would withdraw from that obedience.
Gal 5:7 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God does not withdraw obedience from the obedient; his foreknowledge of evil is not his will, and he did not predestine those he foresaw would fall away.
- Running well: Gal 5:7.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips and stray marker; stray footnote marker in the digital text): desisiant → desistant; Si Dens hominem → Si Deus hominem; sensum e trahuntur → sensum trahuntur; noverit et. mala: sed boni quæ aut ipse faciat, aut etiam ut nos faciamus, I imperii → noverit et mala: sed bona quæ aut ipse faciat, aut etiam ut nos faciamus, imperat; ideo cum non predestinavit, i quia recessurum. ab → ideo eum non prædestinavit, quia recessurum ab.
Topics: Election and predestination
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 12 (PL 51:167; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 13
13PL 51:167–169
OBJECTIO. Quod quidam homines non ad hoc a Deo creati sunt, ut vitam adipiscerentur æternam: sed ut habitum tantummodo sæculi præsentis ornarent, et ad utilititem nascerentur aliorum. RESPONSIO. Universos homines non ignoramus a Deo singillatim creari, et de hac universitate alios damnandos cum diabolo, alios regnaturos esse cum Christo. Quod ergo etiam hi creantur qui æternæ vitæ participes non erunt, nulla est culpa Creatoris, qui naturæ auctor est, non vitii quod natura contraxit. Ornari autem etiam talium conditione mundi hujus varietatem quis non intelligat, qui videat studiis et operibus quorumdam impiorum tot commoda vitæ praesentis instructa in inventione artium, in exstructione urbium, in constitutione legum, in confœderatione populorum? Quod si quæritur an de istis quos a vera religione impius error avertit aliquid boni profectibus sanctorum et incrementis Ecclesiæ Providentia divina contulerit; inspiciatur primum ipsa crux Christi, in qua magno scelere Judæorum misericors voluntas Dei, ut pro redemptione nostra unicus Filius ejus occideretur, impleta est. Inspiciatur apostolorum gloriosa tolerantia, inter persequentium fremitus unanimi voce ad Deum clamantium (Act. iv, 27): Convenerunt enim vere in civitate. ista, adversus sanctum puerum tuum Jesum, quem unxisti, Herodes et Pontius Pilatus, cum gentibus et populis Israel, ut facerent quæ manus tua et consilium prædestinavit fieri. Inspiciantur denique innumerabilium martyrum palmæ, quibus de crudelissim infidelium sævitia felix est collata victoria. Audiatur etiam Apostolus Ecclesiam Dei ad perseverant am pietatis instituens: In nullo, inquit (Philip. It 28), terreamtni ab adversariis, quas est illis causa perditionis, vobis autem salutis, et hoc a Deo. Vobis enim donatum est pro Christo, non solum ut in eum credatis sed etiam ut pro illo patiamini. De illis quoque erroribus consulens nobis Dei bonitas sentiatur, quos Deus in Ecclesia contra Ecclesiam permisit exsurgere: non utique eos creans aut fovens; sed per ipsos diligentiam filiorum suorum ad inquisitionem et custodiam veritatis exercens: dicente Apostolo, Oportet hæreses esse, ut probati manifesti fiant in vobis, Quis autem respiciens ad tenebras impiorum, et ad illuminationem fidelium, non ad gratias agendas Deo, ex ipsa fiat collatione ferventior, et ex ruina pereuntium discat in quae mala per liberum arbitrium rueret, nisi ei per Dominum nostrum Jesum Cbristum Dei gratia subveniret.
Objection. That some people were not created by God for this, that they might attain eternal life, but only to adorn the condition of the present age and to be born for the benefit of others. Answer. We are not unaware that all people are created one by one by God, and that of this whole number some are to be condemned with the devil, others to reign with Christ. That those too are created who will not be partakers of eternal life is therefore no fault of the Creator, who is the author of nature, not of the vice that nature contracted. But who would not understand that the variety of this world is adorned even by the condition of such people, who sees how many conveniences of the present life have been furnished by the studies and works of certain impious people, in the invention of arts, the building of cities, the establishing of laws, the alliances of peoples? And if it is asked whether divine providence has brought any good to the progress of the saints and the growth of the church from those whom impious error has turned from true religion, let us look first at the cross of Christ itself, in which, through a great crime of the Jews, the merciful will of God, that his only Son should be killed for our redemption, was fulfilled. Let us look at the glorious endurance of the apostles, crying to God with one voice amid the raging of the persecutors: “For truly there gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, to do what your hand and your counsel predestined to be done.” Let us look, finally, at the palms of innumerable martyrs, on whom a happy victory has been conferred by the most cruel savagery of unbelievers. Let us hear also the apostle instructing the church of God for perseverance in devotion: “Be terrified,” he says, “in nothing by your adversaries, which is to them a cause of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that from God. For it has been given to you for Christ's sake not only to believe in him but also to suffer for him.” Let the goodness of God that provides for us be felt also from those errors which God has permitted to arise in the church against the church, not, certainly, creating or fostering them, but through them exercising the diligence of his children in the search for and guarding of the truth, as the apostle says: “There must be heresies, so that those who are approved may be made manifest among you.” And who, looking at the darkness of the impious and at the enlightenment of the faithful, does not become more fervent in giving thanks to God from the very comparison, and learn from the ruin of those who perish into what evils he would rush through free choice, unless the grace of God came to his help through our Lord Jesus Christ?
Acts 4:27–28 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:28–29 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:19 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: All are created by God, though not all are saved; God brings good even from the wicked, as from the cross, persecution and heresy, so that the faithful give thanks for grace.
- Acts 4:24–28 (Prosper's quotation: 4:27–28); Phil 1:28–29; 1 Cor 11:19. The reference to “a great crime of the Jews” is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number and OCR slips; Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; OCR slips; stray footnote marker in the digital text; stray marker in the digital text; word split and OCR slip; words joined in the digital text): udipiscerentur → adipiscerentur; qui a ternæ vitæ → qui æternæ vitæ; Creatoris, 217 qui naturæauctor est, non vitiii → Creatoris, qui naturæ auctor est, non vitii; Oniari autem etiam talium conditione inmundi → Ornari autem etiam talium conditione mundi; intelligat, 1 qui videat → intelligat, qui videat; tot omnmda vitæ → tot commoda vitæ; in qua o magno scelere → in qua magno scelere; fremitus P unanimi → fremitus unanimi; deniqueinnumerabilium → denique innumerabilium; errori bns consulens → erroribus consulens; et a ad illuminationem → et ad illuminationem; es ipsa fiat collatione ferventior, et ex ruina ne'euntium → ex ipsa fiat collatione ferventior, et ex ruina pereuntium; subveniret. 218 → subveniret..
Topics: Martyrdom, Heresy, Providence
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 13 (PL 51:167–169; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/13
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Chapter 14
14PL 51:169
OBJECTIO. Quod qui Evangelicæ prædicationi non credunt, ex Dei prædestinatione non credant: et quod Deus ita definierit, ut quicunque non credunt, ex ipsius constitutione non credant. RESPONSIO. Infidelitas non credendum Evangelio, nequaquam ex Dei prædestinatione generatur. Bonorum enim Deus auctor est, non malorum. Prædestinatio igitur Dei semper in bono est, aut ad retributionem justitiæ, aut ad donationem pertinens gratiae. Universæ enim viæ Domini misericordia et veritas (Psal. XXIV, 10). Proinde infidelitas non credentium, non ad constitutionem Dei, sed ad præscientiam referenda est. Quæ non ideo necessitatem non credendi intulit, quia falli de ea quae futura erat infidelitate non potuit. Fides autem et charitatis opera, atque in eis usque in finem perseverantia, quia homini per Dei gratiam conferuntur, recte et ipsa, et quæ eis retribuenda sunt, prædestinata dicuntur, ex auctoritate Apostoli, qui ait (Ephes. II, 8): Gratia Dei salvi facti estis per fidem: et hoc non ex vobis, sed Dei donum est: non ex operibus, ne forte quis extollatur. Ipsius enim sumus figmentum, creati in operibus bonis, in Christo Jesu, quæ præparavit Deus, ut in illis ambulemus. Tam ergo in errore est qui infidelitatem impiorum ad Dei constitutionem refert, quam qui fidei justitiæque sanctorum, non Deum profitetur auctorem. Qui eniM quod acceperat perdidit, non inde id recipit unde perdidit; sed ab illo recipit quod habeat, a quo quod amisit acceperat.
Objection. That those who do not believe the preaching of the Gospel do not believe because of God's predestination; and that God has so decreed that whoever do not believe, do not believe by his ordinance. Answer. Unbelief, in not believing the Gospel, is by no means generated by God's predestination. For God is the author of good things, not of evil. The predestination of God, then, is always in the good, belonging either to the requital of justice or to the gift of grace. For all the ways of the Lord are mercy and truth. Therefore the unbelief of those who do not believe is to be referred not to God's ordinance but to his foreknowledge, which did not impose a necessity of not believing because it could not be deceived about the unbelief that was to be. But faith and the works of love, and perseverance in them to the end, because they are conferred on man through God's grace, are rightly said to be predestined, both they themselves and what is to be rendered for them, on the authority of the apostle, who says: “By the grace of God you have been saved through faith; and this not from yourselves, but it is the gift of God; not from works, lest anyone be puffed up. For we are his workmanship, created in good works in Christ Jesus, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” So he who refers the unbelief of the impious to God's ordinance is as much in error as he who does not profess God to be the author of the faith and righteousness of the saints. For he who lost what he had received does not get it back from the source from which he lost it; but he gets back what he may have from him from whom he had received what he lost.
Ps 25:10 (24:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 2:8–10 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Unbelief is not predestined but foreknown; predestination concerns only good things, the faith, works and perseverance that grace gives.
- Ps 25:10 (24:10 Vulg.); Eph 2:8–10.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; repeated word in the digital text; stray footnote marker in the digital text): prædestinatione e generatur → prædestinatione generatur; Universiæ enim viæ Domini misericordia et verita. (Psal. → Universæ enim viæ Domini misericordia et veritas (Psal.; recte i et ipsa → recte et ipsa; Gratia Dei salvi Dei facti estis → Gratia Dei salvi facti estis; non Dcum profitetur → non Deum profitetur.
Topics: Election and predestination, Grace
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 14 (PL 51:169; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 51 (noisy archive.org OCR; Migne's column numbers, notes and footnote markers removed by logged corrections). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.
Chapter 15
15PL 51:169
OBJECTIO. Quod idem sit præscientia quod prædestinatio. RESPONSIO. Qui præscientiam Dei in nullo ab ipsius prædestinatione discernit, quod tribuendum est Deo de bonis, hoc ei etiam de malis conatur ascribere. Sed cum bona ad largitorem cooperatoremque eorum Deum, mala autem ad voluntariam rationalis creaturæ nequitiam referenda sint; dubium non est, sine ulla temporali differentia Deum et præscisse simul, et prædestinasse, quæ ipso erant auctore facienda, vel quæ malis meritis justo erant judicio retribuenda; præscisse autem tantummodo, non etiam prædestinasse, quæ non ex ipso erant causam operationis habitura. Potest itaque sine prædestinatione esse præscientia; prædestinatio autem sine præscientia esse non potest. PARS SECUNDA. DE SINGULIS CAPITULIS SINGUL.E SENTENTIÆ. Quamvis ergo ad omnes objectiones seu querulae imperitiæ, seu fallacis invidiæ, planissime ac pIenissime, quantum Dominus dedit, existimem esse responsum, professionem tamen sensus nostri etiam in brevia coarctemus; ut sub paucorum verborum simplicitate magis magisque appareat nos quod de supra scriptis capitulis intelligimus, nulla circumloquendi arte prætexere, sed absolute ac libere et prava respuere, et consensum probabilibus non negare.
Objection. That foreknowledge is the same as predestination. Answer. Whoever does not distinguish God's foreknowledge in any way from his predestination tries to ascribe to him also in evil things what is to be attributed to God in good ones. But since good things are to be referred to God, their giver and co-worker, and evil things to the voluntary wickedness of the rational creature, there is no doubt that God, without any difference of time, both foreknew and predestined together what was to be done by him as author, or what was to be repaid by just judgment to evil merits; but only foreknew, and did not also predestine, what was not to have its cause of working from him. So there can be foreknowledge without predestination; but there cannot be predestination without foreknowledge. Part Two: To each heading, its sentence. Although, then, I think that all the objections, whether of complaining ignorance or of deceitful envy, have been answered most plainly and fully, as far as the Lord has granted, let us nevertheless also compress the profession of our mind into brief statements, so that under the simplicity of a few words it may appear more and more that we cloak with no art of circumlocution what we understand about the headings written above, but freely and openly both reject the perverse and do not deny assent to what is worthy of approval.
Notes and citation
Summary: Foreknowledge and predestination differ: God foreknows evil without predestining it; predestination always includes foreknowledge. Prosper then introduces Part Two.
- The text of Part Two (the short sentences) is not in the staged text. In the last sentence of the answer the OCR is badly garbled; “without” before the second “foreknowledge” is supplied by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne column number in the digital text; OCR slip; garbled OCR restored by sense; "sine" before the second "præscientia" is supplied, as the argument requires (noted); line-end hyphen not rejoined; stray footnote marker in the digital text; word split in the digital text): dis ernit → discernit; largitorem 219 cooperatoremque → largitorem cooperatoremque; vel qu;e malis → vel quæ malis; prascisse autem → præscisse autem; causam operatiom> halJilura. rotest ila'lue sine præd- natione esse pra'scienlia; prætle')liuatio autem præscientia esse non potest. → causam operationis habitura. Potest itaque sine prædestinatione esse præscientia; prædestinatio autem sine præscientia esse non potest.; nos quod a de supra → nos quod de supra; circum- loquendi → circumloquendi.
Topics: Election and predestination
Cite (SBL): Prosper of Aquitaine, Resp. Gall. 15 (PL 51:169; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/prosper-responsiones-gallorum/15
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 51 (noisy archive.org OCR; Migne's column numbers, notes and footnote markers removed by logged corrections). No public-domain or FOTC English exists; re-read against the Latin.