Eranistes (The Beggar), or Polymorphus 3.21–3.30

Greek text: PG 83.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).

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ΟΡΘ. Ὅταν τινὸς ἐρωτῶντος, ποῖόν ἐστι τὸ ζῶον τὸ λογικὸν ὁμοῦ καὶ θνητὸν, ἀποκρίναιτό τις καὶ εἴποι, "Ανθρωπος, τίνα ἂν χαλέσαις ἑρμηνέα τοῦ λόγου, τὸν ξρόμενον, ἣ τὸν ἀποχρινόμενον; ΟΡΘ. Εἰκότως ἄρα ἔφην σοὺς εἶναι τούσδε τοὺς λόγους " σὺ γὰρ δήπουθεν ἀποχρινόμενο: καὶ τὰ μὲν γους. ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐκοῦν ἀποκρινοῦμαι μὲν οὐδαμῶς, ἐρήσομαι δὲ μόνον" οσὺ δὲ ἀποχρίνου. Τί δήποτε πρὸς τὴν ἀποστολικὴν φὴς ῥῆσιν ἐχείνην " ε Εἰ γὰρ ἔγνωσαν, οὐκ ἂν τὸν Κύριον τῆς δόξης ἐσταύρωσαν; » Ἐνταῦθα γὰρ οὔτε σώματος, οὔτε ψυχῆς ἐμνημόνευσεν. ΟΡΘ. Οὐκοῦν οὐδὲ τὸ σαρχέ προσθετέον ἐνταῦθα’ ποῦτο δὴ ὑμέτερον, τὸ κατὰ τῆς τοῦ Λόγου θεότητος ἐξευρεθὲν ὑμῖν μηχάνημα" ἀλλὰ γυμνῇ τῇ τοῦ Λόγου θεότητι προσαπτέοι τὸ πάθος. ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐδαμῶς " σαρκὶ γὰρ πέπονθεν" ἡ δὲ ἀσώματος φύσις αὐτὴ καθ᾽ αὐτὴν παθεῖν οὐκ οἵα τε ἦν. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αλλ' οὐδὲν προσήκει τοῖς ἀποστολικοῖς προσθεῖναι ῥητοῖς. ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐδὲν ἄτοπον, τὸν ἀποστολικὸν εἰδότα σκοπὸν τὸ ἐλλεῖπον προσθεῖναι. 0Ρθ. Προσθεῖναι μέν τι τοῖς θείοις, μανικό" ἔστι καὶ θρασύ " ἀναπτύσσειν δὲ τὰ γεγραμμένα, καὶ τὴν κεκρυμμένην ἀποκαλύπτειν διάνοιαν, ὅσιόν τε καὶ εὐαγές. ΟΡΘ. Οὐδὲν οὖν ἀπεικὸς οὐδ᾽ ἀνόδιον ἂν καὶ ἡμεῖς, ἐρευνῶντες τῶν γεγραμμένων τὸν νοῦν. ΟΡΘ. Κοινῇ τοίνυν τὸ δοκοῦν κεκρύφθαι ζητήσωμεν. ᾿ΌΟΡΘ. ᾿Αδελφὸν τοῦ Κυρίου τὸν θεῖον Ἰαχὼδ ὁ μέγᾶς προσηγόρευσε Παῦλος. ΟΡΘ. Πῶς τοίνυν αὐτὸν νοήπτομεν ἀδελφόν; πότερον τῇ τῆς θεότητος, ἣ τῇ τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος ἀγχι- ΡῚ ἐδ᾽ Καὶ μὴν πολλάκις διεῖλες ἐν τοῖς ἔμπροσθεν ἐξετασμένοις. Ταὐτὸ δὲ τοῦτο δράσεις καὶ νῦν. Εἰπὲ γάρ μοι, μονογενῆ τὸν Θεὸν Λόγον λέγεις ΟΡΘ. Ὁ δὲ μονογενὴς τὸν μόνον υἱὸν δηλοῖ; ΟΡΘ. χιστα δὲ ἀδελφὸν ὁ μονογενὴς ἔχει; ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐδαμῶς ἔχει" οὐ γὰρ ἄν ἀδελφὸν ἔχων Ὦ κληθείη μονογενής. φὸν τοῦ Κυρίον. Μονογενὴς γὰρ ὁ Κύριος, ἥκιστα δὲ ἀδελφὸν ὁ μονογενὴς ἔχει. ΕΡΑΝ. ᾿Αλλ' οὐκ ἀσώματος ὁ Ἀύριος, ἵνα μόνα τὰ τῇ θεότητι προσήκοντα φασὶ τῆς ἀληθείας οἱ χή- ΟΡΘ. Πῶς ἂν οὖν δείξαις ἀληθῆ τοῦ ᾿Αποστόλου τὸν λόγον; ᾿ ἘΕΡΑΝ. Λέγων ὅτι κατὰ σάρκα οὗτος τῆς Δεσπο- ΟΡΘ. Ἰδοὺ πάλιν ἡμῖν εἰσήγαγες τὴν παρ᾽ ὑμῶν ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐκ ἦν ἑτέρως τὴν συγγένειαν δεῖξαι. ΟΡΘ. Μὴ τοίνυν κατηγόρει τῶν ἑτέρως τὰ τοιαῦτα διαλύειν οὗ δυναμένων. ΕΡΑΝ. Εἰς ἕτερα τὸν λόγον ἀπάγεις, ἐκκλῖναι ΟΡΘ. Οὐδαμῶς, ὦ ἀγαθέ" διὰ γὰρ δὴ τῶν ἐξητασμένων κἀκεῖνο λυθήσεται" κκαὶ σκόπησον οὑτωσί. Τοῦ Κυρίου ἀδελφὸν τὸν Ἰάχωδον ἀκούσας, οὐ τῇ θεότητι προσήκειν, ἀλλὰ τῇ σαρκΐ τὴν συγγένειαν εἴρηκας; ΟΡΘ. Κἀνταῦθα τοίνυν τοῦ σταυροῦ τὸ πάθος ἀκούσας, τῇ σαρκὶ τοῦτο προσάρμοσον. ἀπόστολος Παῦλος Κύριον δόξης τὸν ἐσταυρωμένον ἐκάλεσεν. ΌΡΘ. Καὶ ὁ αὐτὸς ἀπόστολος ἀδελφὸν τοῦ Ἰαχώὅου τὸν Κύριον προσηγόρευσεν. Ὁ αὐτὸς δὲ Κύριος ᾿κἀνταῦθα κἀκεῖ, Εἰ τοίνυν ὀρθὸς εἶ, καὶ τὴν συγγένειᾶν πῥοσήρμοσας τῇ σαρκὶ, καὶ τὸ πάθος δήπουθεν ταύτῃ προσαρμοστέον. Τῶν γὰρ ἀτοπωτάτων, τὴν μὲν συγγένειαν κατὰ διαίρεσιν ἐννοεῖν, τὸ δὲ πάθος ἀδιαιρέτως προσάπτειν.

ORTh. Hotan tinos erōtōntos, poion esti to zōon to logikon homou kai thnēton, apokrinaito tis kai eipoi, "Anthrōpos, tina an chalesais hermēnea tou logou, ton xromenon, hē ton apochrinomenon? ORTh. Eikotōs ara ephēn sous einai tousde tous logous " sy gar dēpouthen apochrinomeno: kai ta men gous. ERAN. Oukoun apokrinoumai men oudamōs, erēsomai de monon" osy de apochrinou. Ti dēpote pros tēn apostolikēn phēs rhēsin echeinēn " e Ei gar egnōsan, ouk an ton Kyrion tēs doxēs estaurōsan? » Entautha gar oute sōmatos, oute psychēs emnēmoneusen. ORTh. Oukoun oude to sarche prostheteon entautha’ pouto dē hymeteron, to kata tēs tou Logou theotētos exeurethen hymin mēchanēma" alla gymnę̄ tę̄ tou Logou theotēti prosapteoi to pathos. ERAN. Oudamōs " sarki gar peponthen" hē de asōmatos physis autē kath᾽ autēn pathein ouk hoia te ēn. ORTh. ᾿All' ouden prosēkei tois apostolikois prostheinai rhētois. ERAN. Ouden atopon, ton apostolikon eidota skopon to elleipon prostheinai. 0Rth. Prostheinai men ti tois theiois, maniko" esti kai thrasy " anaptyssein de ta gegrammena, kai tēn kekrymmenēn apokalyptein dianoian, hosion te kai euages. ORTh. Ouden oun apeikos oud᾽ anodion an kai hēmeis, ereunōntes tōn gegrammenōn ton noun. ORTh. Koinę̄ toinyn to dokoun kekryphthai zētēsōmen. ᾿OORTh. ᾿Adelphon tou Kyriou ton theion Iachōd ho megas prosēgoreuse Paulos. ORTh. Pōs toinyn auton noēptomen adelphon? poteron tę̄ tēs theotētos, hē tę̄ tēs anthrōpotētos anchi- RI ed᾽ Kai mēn pollakis dieiles en tois emprosthen exetasmenois. Tauto de touto draseis kai nyn. Eipe gar moi, monogenē ton Theon Logon legeis ORTh. Ho de monogenēs ton monon huion dēloi? ORTh. chista de adelphon ho monogenēs echei? ERAN. Oudamōs echei" ou gar an adelphon echōn Ō klētheiē monogenēs. phon tou Kyrion. Monogenēs gar ho Kyrios, hēkista de adelphon ho monogenēs echei. ERAN. ᾿All' ouk asōmatos ho Aurios, hina mona ta tę̄ theotēti prosēkonta phasi tēs alētheias hoi chē- ORTh. Pōs an oun deixais alēthē tou ᾿Apostolou ton logon? ᾿ EERAN. Legōn hoti kata sarka houtos tēs Despo- ORTh. Idou palin hēmin eisēgages tēn par᾽ hymōn ERAN. Ouk ēn heterōs tēn syngeneian deixai. ORTh. Mē toinyn katēgorei tōn heterōs ta toiauta dialyein hou dynamenōn. ERAN. Eis hetera ton logon apageis, ekklinai ORTh. Oudamōs, ō agathe" dia gar dē tōn exētasmenōn kakeino lythēsetai" kkai skopēson houtōsi. Tou Kyriou adelphon ton Iachōdon akousas, ou tę̄ theotēti prosēkein, alla tę̄ sarkï tēn syngeneian eirēkas? ORTh. Kantautha toinyn tou staurou to pathos akousas, tę̄ sarki touto prosarmoson. apostolos Paulos Kyrion doxēs ton estaurōmenon ekalesen. ORTh. Kai ho autos apostolos adelphon tou Iachōoou ton Kyrion prosēgoreusen. Ho autos de Kyrios ᾿kantautha kakei, Ei toinyn orthos ei, kai tēn syngeneian prhosērmosas tę̄ sarki, kai to pathos dēpouthen tautę̄ prosarmosteon. Tōn gar atopōtatōn, tēn men syngeneian kata diairesin ennoein, to de pathos adiairetōs prosaptein.

Orthodoxos: When someone asks what the living being is that is at once rational and mortal, and someone answers and says “Man,” whom would you call the interpreter of the statement: the one who asked, or the one who answered? … Orthodoxos: Rightly, then, did I say that these words were yours; for you, surely, were the one answering, and … Eranistes: Then I will not answer at all any more, but only ask; and you answer. What do you say to that apostolic saying, “For if they had known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory”? For here he mentioned neither body nor soul. Orthodoxos: Then neither must “in the flesh” be added here — that is yours, the device you have invented against the Godhead of the Word — but the passion must be attached to the bare Godhead of the Word. Eranistes: Not at all; for he suffered in the flesh, and the incorporeal nature by itself could not suffer. Orthodoxos: But it is not right to add anything to the apostolic words. Eranistes: It is nothing absurd for one who knows the apostolic aim to add what is lacking. Orthodoxos: To add something to the divine words is mad and bold; but to unfold what is written, and to reveal the hidden sense, is holy and pious. … Orthodoxos: Then we too would be doing nothing unreasonable or unholy in searching out the sense of what is written. … Orthodoxos: Let us, then, seek together what seems to be hidden. … Orthodoxos: The great Paul called the divine James brother of the Lord. … Orthodoxos: How, then, shall we understand him to be a brother: by kinship of Godhead, or of humanity? … [Orthodoxos:] And yet you have often divided in what we examined earlier; and you will do the same now. Tell me: do you call God the Word only-begotten? … Orthodoxos: And “only-begotten” indicates the only son? … Orthodoxos: And the only-begotten by no means has a brother? Eranistes: He by no means has; for if he had a brother he would not be called only-begotten. … [Then James is not the] brother of the Lord. For the Lord is only-begotten, and the only-begotten by no means has a brother. Eranistes: But the Lord is not incorporeal, so that only what belongs to the Godhead … [the heralds] of the truth say … Orthodoxos: How, then, would you show that the Apostle’s word is true? Eranistes: By saying that he was [brother] of the Lord according to the flesh … Orthodoxos: Look, you have again brought in your [division] … Eranistes: There was no other way to show the kinship. Orthodoxos: Then do not accuse those who cannot resolve such things in any other way. Eranistes: You are leading the argument off to other matters, to avoid … Orthodoxos: Not at all, my good friend; for that point too will be resolved by what has been examined. Consider it in this way. When you heard James called the Lord’s brother, did you not say that the kinship belongs not to the Godhead but to the flesh? … Orthodoxos: Here too, then, when you hear of the passion of the cross, fit it to the flesh. [Eranistes: But the] apostle Paul called the crucified one Lord of glory. Orthodoxos: And the same apostle called the Lord the brother of James. The same Lord is meant here and there. If, then, you are right, and fitted the kinship to the flesh, surely the passion too must be fitted to it. For it is most absurd to understand the kinship by division, but to attach the passion without division.

1 Cor 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 1:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:18 (allusion, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Orthodoxos argues that, as Eranistes explains “James the Lord’s brother” by the flesh, he must also refer “they crucified the Lord of glory” to the flesh.

  • Many lines and speaker labels have dropped out of the OCR where “…” is printed, especially in the exchange about James and the only-begotten; bracketed words are supplied for sense, and the speaker of “And yet you have often divided” is probably Orthodoxos. Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). Quotation: 1 Cor 2:8. Allusions: Gal 1:19; John 1:14, 18.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; stray marginal mark): ἤθη οἱ τηοτγίοιη οἱ τὸἤθη 8001 δ, → ; ἀΐηϊ- (Οδ τ βία : δεῖ, οἱ οἱ τοὶ ίυδὰ ροῖνἶὮ1, υπἰ σοι αι θοῦ ογθαὰ ἂη ΕἸ] πὶ πη Βα Ροι οὶ. → ; ΟἘΤΗ. δος → ; τὸν 8 ἐσταυρωμένον → τὸν ἐσταυρωμένον.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.21 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.22PG 83

ΕΡΑΝ. Ἐγὼ πείθομαι τῷ ᾿Αποστόλῳ, Κύριον δόξης τὸν ἐσταυρωμένον προσαγορεύοντι. ΟΡΘ. Καὶ ἐγὼ πείθομαι καὶ πιστεύω Κύριον εἶναι δόξης ᾿ οὐ γὰρ ἀνθρώπον τινὸς κοινοῦ, ἀλλὰ τοῦ Κυρίου τῆς δόξης σῶμα ἦν τὸ τῷ ξύλῳ προσηλωθέν. Χρὴ μέντοι εἰδέναι, ὡς ἡ ἕνωσις κοινὰ ποιεῖ τὰ ὀνόματα, Σκόπησον δὲ οὑτωσί. Τὴν σάρκα τοῦ Κυρίου ἐκ τῶν οὐρανῶν κατεληλυθέναι λέγεις - ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αλλ’ ἐν τῇ μήτρᾳ τῆς Παρθένου διαπλασθῆναι; ΟΡΘ. Πῶς οὖν ὁ Κύριος λέγει" « Ἐὰν οὖν ἴδητε τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἀναδαίνοντα ὅπου ἦν τὸ πρόπέρον, » καὶ πάλιν’ ε Οὐδεὶς ἀναδέθδηχεν εἰς τὸν οὐρανὸν, εἰ μὴ ὁ ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ καταδὰς, ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου, ὃ ὧν ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ;"» ΕΡΑΝ. Οὐ περὶ τῆς σαρκὸς, ἀλλὰ περὶ τῆς θεότῆτος λέγει. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἡ θεότης ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ Πατρός. Πὼς οὖν αὐτὸν Υἱὸν ἀνθρώπου χαλεῖΐ; ΕΡΑΝ. Καοινὰ τοῦ προσώπου γέγονε τὰ «τῶν φύσεων ἴδια. Ὁ γὰρ αὐτὸς διὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν, καὶ Υἱὸς ἀνθρώπον καὶ Υἱὸς Θεοῦ, καὶ αἰώνιος καὶ πρόσφατος, καὶ Υἱὸς Δαδὶδ καὶ Κύριος Δαθὶδ, καὶ τ᾽ ἄλλα τὰ" τοιάδε ὁμοίως. ΟΡΘ. Μάλα ὀρθῶς. Εἰδέναι μέντοι κἀκεῖνο χρὴ, ὡς οὐ σύγχυσιν εἰργάσατο τῶν φύσεων ἡ κοινότης τῶν ὀνομάτων. Διὰ γάρ τοι τοῦτο καὶ διαγνῶναι ζηποῦμεν, πῶς μὲν Υἱὸς Θεοῦ, πῶς δὲ πάλιν ὁ αὐτὸς Υίὸς ἀνθρώπου, καὶ πῶς ὁ αὐτὲς χθὲς, σήμερον, καὶ εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας " καὶ τῇ εὐσεθεῖ διακρίσει τοῦ λόγου σύμφωνα τἀναντία εὑρίσκομεν. ΟΡΟ. “Ὥσπερ τοίνυν χαταδεθηχέναι μὲν ἐκ τῶν οὐρανῶν τὴν θείαν φύσιν ἔφησθα, Υἱὸν δέ γε ἀνθρώπου κληθῆναι αὐτὴν διὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν εἴρηκας οὕτω προσηλωθῆναι μὲν τῷ ξύλῳ τὴν σάρκα προσήκει λέγειν, ἀχώριστον δὲ ταύτης εἶναι τὴν θείαν φύσιν ὁμολογεῖν, χἀὰν τῷ σταυρῷ, κἀν τῷ τάφῳ, πάθος ἐκεῖθεν οὐ δεχομένην ἐπειδὴ πάσχειν οὗ πέφυκεν, οὐδέ γε θνήσκειν, ἀλλ᾽ ἀθάνατον ἔχει καὶ ἀπαθῇ τὴν οὐσίαν. Ταύτῃτοι καὶ Κύριον δόξης τὸν ἐσταυρωμέγον ὠνόμασε, τὸ τῆς ἀπαθοῦς φύσεως ὄνομα τῇ παθητῇ προσνείμας, ἐπειδήπερ αὐτῆς ἐχρημάτισε σῶμα. Προσεξετάσωμεν δὲ καὶ τοῦτο. Ὁ θεῖος εἶπεν ᾿Από- στολος" « Εἰ γὰρ ἔγνωσαν, οὐκ ἂν τὸν Κύριον τῆς δόξης ἐσταύρωσαν. » Ἐσταύρωσαν τοίνυν ἣν ἔγνωσαν φύσιν, οὐκ ἣν πάμπαν ᾿γνόησαυ. Εἰ δὲ ἔγνωσαν ἣν ἠγνόησαν, οὐκ ἂν ἐσταύρωσαν ἧνπερ ἔγνωσαν. Ἐπειδὴ δὲ τὴν θείαν ἠγνόησαν, τὴν ἀνθρωπείαν ἐσταύρωσαν. Ἢ οὐκ ἀκήκοας αὐτῶν λεγόντων " « Περὶ καλοῦ ἔργου οὐ λιθάζομέν σς, ἀλλὰ περὶ βλασφημίας, ὅτι, ἄνθρωπος ὧν, ποιεῖς σεαυτὸν Θεόν; » Διὰ δὲ τούτων δηλοῦσιν, ὡς ἦν μὲν ἑώρων ἐπεγίνωσκον φύσιν, τὴν δέ γε ἀόρατον παντάπασιν ἠγνόουν. Εἰ δὲ κἀκείνην ἐπέγνωσαν, οὐκ ἂν τὸν Κύριον τῆς δόξης ἐσταύρωσαν.

ERAN. Egō peithomai tǭ ᾿Apostolǭ, Kyrion doxēs ton estaurōmenon prosagoreuonti. ORTh. Kai egō peithomai kai pisteuō Kyrion einai doxēs ᾿ ou gar anthrōpon tinos koinou, alla tou Kyriou tēs doxēs sōma ēn to tǭ xylǭ prosēlōthen. Chrē mentoi eidenai, hōs hē henōsis koina poiei ta onomata, Skopēson de houtōsi. Tēn sarka tou Kyriou ek tōn ouranōn katelēlythenai legeis - ORTh. ᾿All’ en tę̄ mētrą tēs Parthenou diaplasthēnai? ORTh. Pōs oun ho Kyrios legei" « Ean oun idēte ton Huion tou anthrōpou anadainonta hopou ēn to properon, » kai palin’ e Oudeis anadethdēchen eis ton ouranon, ei mē ho ek tou ouranou katadas, ho Huios tou anthrōpou, ho hōn en tǭ ouranǭ?"» ERAN. Ou peri tēs sarkos, alla peri tēs theotētos legei. ORTh. ᾿All᾽ hē theotēs ek tou Theou kai Patros. Pōs oun auton Huion anthrōpou chaleiï? ERAN. Kaoina tou prosōpou gegone ta «tōn physeōn idia. Ho gar autos dia tēn henōsin, kai Huios anthrōpon kai Huios Theou, kai aiōnios kai prosphatos, kai Huios Dadid kai Kyrios Dathid, kai t᾽ alla ta" toiade homoiōs. ORTh. Mala orthōs. Eidenai mentoi kakeino chrē, hōs ou synchysin eirgasato tōn physeōn hē koinotēs tōn onomatōn. Dia gar toi touto kai diagnōnai zēpoumen, pōs men Huios Theou, pōs de palin ho autos Uios anthrōpou, kai pōs ho autes chthes, sēmeron, kai eis tous aiōnas " kai tę̄ eusethei diakrisei tou logou symphōna tanantia heuriskomen. ORO. “Hōsper toinyn chatadethēchenai men ek tōn ouranōn tēn theian physin ephēstha, Huion de ge anthrōpou klēthēnai autēn dia tēn henōsin eirēkas houtō prosēlōthēnai men tǭ xylǭ tēn sarka prosēkei legein, achōriston de tautēs einai tēn theian physin homologein, chaan tǭ staurǭ, kan tǭ taphǭ, pathos ekeithen ou dechomenēn epeidē paschein hou pephyken, oude ge thnēskein, all᾽ athanaton echei kai apathę̄ tēn ousian. Tautę̄toi kai Kyrion doxēs ton estaurōmegon ōnomase, to tēs apathous physeōs onoma tę̄ pathētę̄ prosneimas, epeidēper autēs echrēmatise sōma. Prosexetasōmen de kai touto. Ho theios eipen ᾿Apo- stolos" « Ei gar egnōsan, ouk an ton Kyrion tēs doxēs estaurōsan. » Estaurōsan toinyn hēn egnōsan physin, ouk hēn pampan ᾿gnoēsau. Ei de egnōsan hēn ēgnoēsan, ouk an estaurōsan hēnper egnōsan. Epeidē de tēn theian ēgnoēsan, tēn anthrōpeian estaurōsan. Ē ouk akēkoas autōn legontōn " « Peri kalou ergou ou lithazomen ss, alla peri blasphēmias, hoti, anthrōpos hōn, poieis seauton Theon? » Dia de toutōn dēlousin, hōs ēn men heōrōn epeginōskon physin, tēn de ge aoraton pantapasin ēgnooun. Ei de kakeinēn epegnōsan, ouk an ton Kyrion tēs doxēs estaurōsan.

Eranistes: I believe the Apostle, who calls the crucified one Lord of glory. Orthodoxos: I too believe, and I trust that he is Lord of glory; for the body nailed to the wood was not that of some common man, but of the Lord of glory. But one must know that the union makes the names common. Consider it in this way. Do you say that the Lord’s flesh came down from heaven? … Orthodoxos: But that it was formed in the womb of the Virgin? … Orthodoxos: How, then, does the Lord say, “Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?” and again, “No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man who is in heaven”? Eranistes: He is speaking not about the flesh but about the Godhead. Orthodoxos: But the Godhead is from God the Father. How, then, does he call himself Son of Man? Eranistes: The properties of the natures have become common to the person. For the same one, because of the union, is both Son of Man and Son of God, both eternal and recent, both Son of David and Lord of David, and likewise the other such things. Orthodoxos: Quite right. Yet one must also know that the commonness of the names did not produce confusion of the natures. It is for this very reason that we seek to discern how he is Son of God, and how again the same one is Son of Man, and how the same one is yesterday, today, and for ever; and by the pious distinction of reason we find the opposites in harmony. … Orthodoxos: Just as, then, you said that the divine nature came down from heaven, but said that it was called Son of Man because of the union, so it is right to say that the flesh was nailed to the wood, but to confess that the divine nature was inseparable from it, both on the cross and in the tomb, though it received no passion from that, since it is not its nature to suffer or to die, but it has an immortal and impassible substance. For this reason [the Apostle] also named the crucified one Lord of glory, assigning the name of the impassible nature to the passible one, since it was called its body. Let us examine this too. The divine Apostle said, “For if they had known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” They crucified, then, the nature they knew, not the one of which they were wholly ignorant. If they had known the one of which they were ignorant, they would not have crucified the one they knew. But since they were ignorant of the divine nature, they crucified the human. Or have you not heard them saying, “It is not for a good work that we are stoning you, but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God”? By these words they show that they recognized the nature they saw, but were wholly ignorant of the invisible one. If they had recognized that one too, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

John 6:62 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 13:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:42 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 22:45 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 1:31 (allusion, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Orthodoxos explains that the union makes the names of the two natures common to the one person without confusing them, so the Jews crucified the human nature they knew, not the Godhead they did not know.

  • Lines have dropped out of the OCR where “…” is printed, including Eranistes’ replies; the bracketed “the Apostle” is supplied for sense. Migne’s Latin column and marginal references read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Quotations: John 6:62; John 3:13 (with “who is in heaven”); Heb 13:8; 1 Cor 2:8; John 10:33. Allusions: Matt 22:42–45; Luke 1:31.

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Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.22 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.23PG 83

ΕΡΑΝ. Ταῦτα μὲν ἀμηγέπη τὸ εἰκὸς ἔχει. Ἡ δὲ τῶν Πατέρων τῶν ἐν Νικαίᾳ συνεληλυθότων διδασκαλία τῆς πίστεως αὐτὸν τὸν Μονογενῇ, τὸν ἀληθινὸν ᾿ Θεὸν, τὸν ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρὶ, παθεῖν καὶ σταυρωθῇ αἱ φησι, ΟΡΘ. Ὅτι μετὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν, ἑνὶ προσώπῳ καὶ τὰ ὑψηλὰ καὶ τὰ ταπεινὰ προσάπτει ἣ θεία Γραφή. Ἴσως δὲ κἀκεῖνο Ἡγνόησας, ὡς εἰρηκότες πρότερον οἱ παντότε ἐπήγαγον, παθόντα, σταυρωθέντα, καὶ τὴν δεκτικὴν τοῦ πάθους προδςείξαντες φύσιν, οὕτω τὸ πάθος ποἷς λόγοις προσέθηκαν. ΕΡΑΝ. Οἱ Πατέρες τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ, τὸ ἐκ τοῦ φωτὸς φῶς, τὸν ἐκ τῆς οὐσίας τοῦ Πατρὸς, ἔφασαν Ὁ παθεῖν τε καὶ σταυρωθῆναι. ΟΡΘ. Πολλάκις ἔφην, ὡς καὶ τὰ θεῖα καὶ τὰ ἀνθρώπεια τὸ ὃν δέχεται πρόσωπον. Διάτοι τοῦτο καὶ οἱ τρισμαχάριοι ἸΙατέρες, ὅπως δεῖ πιστεύειν εἰς τὸν Πατέρα διδάξαντες. καὶ εἰς τὸ τοῦ Υἱοῦ πρόσωπον μεταδάντες, οὐκ εἶπον εὐθὺ:, Καὶ εἰς τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ" καΐτοι λίαν ἀκόλουθον ἦν, τὰ περὶ Θεοῦ καὶ Πατρὸς εἰρηκότας, εὐθὺς καὶ τὴν τοῦ Υἱοῦ θεῖναι προσηγορίαν" ἀλλ᾽ ἠδουλήθησαν ὁμοῦ καὶ τὸν τῆς θεολογίας, καὶ τὸν τῆς οἰκονομίας ἡμῖν παραδοῦναι λόγον, ἵνα μὴ ἄλλο μὲν τὸ τῆς θεότητος, ἄλλο δὲ τὸ τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος πρότωπον νομισθῇ. Τούτου δὴ χάριν, τοῖς περὶ τοῦ Πατρὸς εἰρημένοις ἐπήγαγον, ὡς χρὴ πιστεύειν καὶ εἰς τὸν Κύριον ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν, τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ. Χριστὸς δὲ μετὰ τὴν ἐνανθρώπησιν ὁ Θεὸς Λόγος ἐχλέθη. Τοῦτο τοίνυν τὸ ὄνομα πάντα δέχεται, καὶ ὅσα τῆς θεότητος, καὶ ὅσα -ἧς ἀνθρωπότητος ἴδια. ᾿Ἐπιγιγνώσχομεν δὲ ὅμως, τίνα μὲν ταύτης, τίνα δὲ ἐκείνης τῆς φύσεως " καὶ τοῦτο καὶ ἐξ αὐτοῦ τοῦ συμθδόλου τῆς πίστεως καταμαθεῖν εὐπετές. Τίνι γὰρ, εἰπέ μοι, προσαἀρμόττεις τὸ ἐκ τῆς οὐσίας τοῦ Πατρός; τῇ θεότητι, ἣ τῇ ἐκ σπέρματος Δαδὶδ διαπλασθείσῃ φύσει; ΕΡΑΝ. Δῆλον ὡς τῇ θεότητι. ΟΡΘ. Τὸ δὲ Θεὸν ἀληθινὸν ἐκ Θεοῦ ἀληθινοῦ, τίνος ἴδιον εἶναι φής : τῆς θεότητος, ἢ τῆς ἀνθρω- ΟΡΘ. Οὐκοῦν καὶ τῷ Πατρὶ ὁμοούσιος, οὐκ ἡ σὰρξ, οὐδέ γε ἡ ψυχή" χτισταὶ γὰρ αὗται " ἀλλ᾽ ἡ θεότης, ἡ τὰ πάντα τεχτηναμένη; ΟΡΘ. Οὕτω δὴ οὖν χρὴ πάθος ἀκουοντας, χαι σταυρὸν, ἐπιγινώσκειν τὴν φύσιν τὴν δεξαμένην τὸ πάθος, καὶ μὴ τῇ ἀπαθεῖ προτάπτειν, ἀλλ᾽ ἐκείνῃ, ἢ τούτου γε ἕνεκα προσελήφθη. Ὅτι γὰρ καὶ οἱ ἀξιάγαστοι Πατέρες ἀπαθῇ τὴν θείαν ὡμολόγησαν φύσιν, τῇ δὲ σαρκὶ τὸ πάθος προσήρμοσαν, μαρτυρεῖ τὸ τῆς πίστεως τέλος " ἔχει δὲ οὕτως - « Τοὺς δὲ λέγοντας" Ἣν ποτὲ ὅτε οὐκ ἦν, καὶ πρὶν γεννηθῆναι οὐκ ἦν, καὶ ὅτι ἐξ οὐκ ὄντων ἐγένετο, ἣ ἐξ ἑτέρας τινὸς ὑποστάσεως ἣ οὐσίας φάτχοντας εἶναι τρεπτὸν ἣ ἀλλοιωτὸν τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ, τούτους ἀναθεματίζει ἡ ἁγία καθολικὴ καὶ ἀποστολικὴ Ἐκκλησία. » Ὅρα δὲ οὖν ὁποίαν ἠπείλησαν τιμωρίαν τοῖς τὸ πάθος τῇ θείᾳ φύσει προσάπτουσιν.

ERAN. Tauta men amēgepē to eikos echei. Hē de tōn Paterōn tōn en Nikaią synelēlythotōn didaskalia tēs pisteōs auton ton Monogenę̄, ton alēthinon ᾿ Theon, ton homoousion tǭ Patri, pathein kai staurōthę̄ hai phēsi, ORTh. Hoti meta tēn henōsin, heni prosōpǭ kai ta hypsēla kai ta tapeina prosaptei hē theia Graphē. Isōs de kakeino Hēgnoēsas, hōs eirēkotes proteron hoi pantote epēgagon, pathonta, staurōthenta, kai tēn dektikēn tou pathous prodseixantes physin, houtō to pathos pois logois prosethēkan. ERAN. Hoi Pateres ton Huion tou Theou, to ek tou phōtos phōs, ton ek tēs ousias tou Patros, ephasan Ho pathein te kai staurōthēnai. ORTh. Pollakis ephēn, hōs kai ta theia kai ta anthrōpeia to hon dechetai prosōpon. Diatoi touto kai hoi trismacharioi IIateres, hopōs dei pisteuein eis ton Patera didaxantes. kai eis to tou Huiou prosōpon metadantes, ouk eipon euthy:, Kai eis ton Huion tou Theou" kaïtoi lian akolouthon ēn, ta peri Theou kai Patros eirēkotas, euthys kai tēn tou Huiou theinai prosēgorian" all᾽ ēdoulēthēsan homou kai ton tēs theologias, kai ton tēs oikonomias hēmin paradounai logon, hina mē allo men to tēs theotētos, allo de to tēs anthrōpotētos protōpon nomisthę̄. Toutou dē charin, tois peri tou Patros eirēmenois epēgagon, hōs chrē pisteuein kai eis ton Kyrion hēmōn Iēsoun Christon, ton Huion tou Theou. Christos de meta tēn enanthrōpēsin ho Theos Logos echlethē. Touto toinyn to onoma panta dechetai, kai hosa tēs theotētos, kai hosa -hēs anthrōpotētos idia. ᾿Epigignōschomen de homōs, tina men tautēs, tina de ekeinēs tēs physeōs " kai touto kai ex autou tou symthdolou tēs pisteōs katamathein eupetes. Tini gar, eipe moi, prosaarmotteis to ek tēs ousias tou Patros? tę̄ theotēti, hē tę̄ ek spermatos Dadid diaplastheisę̄ physei? ERAN. Dēlon hōs tę̄ theotēti. ORTh. To de Theon alēthinon ek Theou alēthinou, tinos idion einai phēs : tēs theotētos, ē tēs anthrō- ORTh. Oukoun kai tǭ Patri homoousios, ouk hē sarx, oude ge hē psychē" chtistai gar hautai " all᾽ hē theotēs, hē ta panta techtēnamenē? ORTh. Houtō dē oun chrē pathos akouontas, chai stauron, epiginōskein tēn physin tēn dexamenēn to pathos, kai mē tę̄ apathei protaptein, all᾽ ekeinę̄, ē toutou ge heneka proselēphthē. Hoti gar kai hoi axiagastoi Pateres apathę̄ tēn theian hōmologēsan physin, tę̄ de sarki to pathos prosērmosan, martyrei to tēs pisteōs telos " echei de houtōs - « Tous de legontas" Hēn pote hote ouk ēn, kai prin gennēthēnai ouk ēn, kai hoti ex ouk ontōn egeneto, hē ex heteras tinos hypostaseōs hē ousias phatchontas einai trepton hē alloiōton ton Huion tou Theou, toutous anathematizei hē hagia katholikē kai apostolikē Ekklēsia. » Hora de oun hopoian ēpeilēsan timōrian tois to pathos tę̄ theią physei prosaptousin.

Eranistes: These things are reasonable in a way. But the teaching of the faith of the Fathers who assembled at Nicaea says that the Only-begotten himself, the true God, consubstantial with the Father, suffered and was crucified. Orthodoxos: Because after the union the divine Scripture attaches both the lofty and the lowly things to one person. And perhaps you were unaware of this too: that, having first said [that he became flesh and became man], they then added “suffered, crucified”; and having first shown the nature capable of receiving the passion, they thus added the passion to their words. Eranistes: The Fathers said that the Son of God, light from light, from the substance of the Father, suffered and was crucified. Orthodoxos: I have often said that the one person receives both the divine and the human things. For this reason the thrice-blessed Fathers too, having taught how one must believe in the Father, and passing on to the person of the Son, did not say at once, “And in the Son of God” — although it would have been very natural, after speaking about God the Father, to put the title of the Son at once — but they wished to hand down to us the account of theology and that of the dispensation together, so that the person of the Godhead and that of the humanity might not be thought to be different. For this reason they added to what was said about the Father that one must believe also in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And God the Word was called Christ after he became man. This name, then, receives all things, both those proper to the Godhead and those proper to the humanity. Yet we recognize which belong to this nature and which to that; and this is easy to learn from the creed of the faith itself. To what, tell me, do you fit “from the substance of the Father”: to the Godhead, or to the nature formed from the seed of David? Eranistes: Clearly to the Godhead. Orthodoxos: And “true God from true God”: whose property do you say this is, the Godhead’s or the humanity’s? … Orthodoxos: Then also what is consubstantial with the Father is not the flesh, nor the soul (for these are created), but the Godhead, which fashioned all things? … Orthodoxos: So, then, when we hear of passion and cross, we must recognize the nature that received the passion, and not attach it to the impassible nature, but to the one that was assumed for this very purpose. For that the admirable Fathers confessed the divine nature to be impassible and fitted the passion to the flesh, the end of the creed bears witness; it runs thus: “But those who say, ‘There was when he was not,’ and ‘Before he was begotten he was not,’ and that he came into being from things that are not, or who assert that the Son of God is of another hypostasis or substance, or is mutable or alterable — these the holy catholic and apostolic Church anathematizes.” See, then, what punishment they threatened against those who attach the passion to the divine nature.

Rom 1:3 (allusion, low confidence)

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Summary: Orthodoxos argues that the Nicene creed names the one person “Lord Jesus Christ” so as to ascribe both divine and human things to him, while its anathema against calling the Son mutable shows the Godhead is impassible.

  • Lines have dropped out of the OCR where “…” is printed; what the Fathers “first said” before “suffered” is garbled in the OCR, and the bracketed words supply its evident sense from the creed. The quotations and paraphrases of the Nicene creed and its anathema are as printed here; Theodoret’s text of the creed includes “crucified”. Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). Allusions: Rom 1:3; John 17:3; 1 John 5:20.

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Extrabiblical texts: Conc. Nic. 0 (Creed and Canons of the Council of Nicaea (325); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.23 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

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ΕΡΑΝ. Περὶ τροπῆς αὐτοῖς ὁ λόγος ἐνταῦθα, καὶ ἀλλοιώσεως. ΟΡΘ. Τὸ δὲ πάθος τί ἕτερόν ἐστι, ἢ τροπῇ καὶ ἀλλοίωσις; Εἰ γὰρ ἀπαθὴς πρὸ τῆς σαρκώσεως ὧν, μετὰ τὴν σάρκωσιν ἔπαθς, τροπὴν δήπουθεν ὑπομεῖνας ἔπαθε" καὶ εἰ ἀθάνατος πρὸ τῆς ἐνανθρωπήσεως ὧν, ἐγεύσατο θανάτου, κατὰ τὸν ὑμέτερον λόγον, μετὰ τὴν ἐνανθρώπησιν, ἠλλοιώθη πάντως θνητὸς ἐξ ἀθανάτου γενόμενος. ᾿Αλλὰ τοὺς τοιούσδε λόγους, καὶ μὴν δὴ καὶ τοὺς τούτων πατέρας, τῶν ἱερῶν οἱ σεσηπότα μέλη τοῦ ὑγιαίνοντος ἀποχόπτουσι σώματος, Οὗ δὴ χάριν σε παρακαλοῦμεν δεῖσαι τὴν τιμωρίαν, καὶ μισῆσαι τὴν βλασφημίαν, Δείξω δέ σοι καὶ ἐν ἰδίοις συγγράμμααι ταῦτα τοὺς ἁγίους Πατέρας πεφρονηχότας ἃ διεξέλθωμεν " ὧν ἔνιοι μὲν τῆς θαυμασίας ἐκείνης ὁμηγύρεως ἐκοινώνησαν, τινὲς δὲ μετ᾽ ἐκείνους ἐν ταῖς Ἐκκλησίαις διέπρεψαν, τινὲς δὲ πάλαι καὶ πρόπαλαι τὴν οἴκουμένην ἐφώτισαν. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὔτε τὸ διάφορον τῶν χαιρῶν, οὔτε τὸ ἑτερόγλωττον τῶν φωνῶν, τὴν συμφωνίαν ἐπήμανεν, ἀλλ᾽ ἑοίκασι λύρᾳ, πολλὰς μὲν ἐχούσῃ καὶ διαφόρους χορδὰς, μίαν δὲ χὴν παναρμόνιον ἀφιείση,. ἀκρόασιν " ἀναμφίλεχτος γὰρ ἡ τοιαύτη διδασκαλία, καὶ λίαν ἐστὶν ὀνησιφόρος. ΟΡΘ. ᾿᾿Αναπέτασον τοίνύν τὰς ἀκοὰς, καὶ τῶν

ERAN. Peri tropēs autois ho logos entautha, kai alloiōseōs. ORTh. To de pathos ti heteron esti, ē tropę̄ kai alloiōsis? Ei gar apathēs pro tēs sarkōseōs hōn, meta tēn sarkōsin epaths, tropēn dēpouthen hypomeinas epathe" kai ei athanatos pro tēs enanthrōpēseōs hōn, egeusato thanatou, kata ton hymeteron logon, meta tēn enanthrōpēsin, ēlloiōthē pantōs thnētos ex athanatou genomenos. ᾿Alla tous toiousde logous, kai mēn dē kai tous toutōn pateras, tōn hierōn hoi sesēpota melē tou hygiainontos apochoptousi sōmatos, Hou dē charin se parakaloumen deisai tēn timōrian, kai misēsai tēn blasphēmian, Deixō de soi kai en idiois syngrammaai tauta tous hagious Pateras pephronēchotas ha diexelthōmen " hōn enioi men tēs thaumasias ekeinēs homēgyreōs ekoinōnēsan, tines de met᾽ ekeinous en tais Ekklēsiais dieprepsan, tines de palai kai propalai tēn oikoumenēn ephōtisan. ᾿All᾽ oute to diaphoron tōn chairōn, oute to heteroglōtton tōn phōnōn, tēn symphōnian epēmanen, all᾽ heoikasi lyrą, pollas men echousę̄ kai diaphorous chordas, mian de chēn panarmonion aphieisē,. akroasin " anamphilechtos gar hē toiautē didaskalia, kai lian estin onēsiphoros. ORTh. ᾿᾿Anapetason toinyn tas akoas, kai tōn

Eranistes: Their statement here concerns change and alteration. Orthodoxos: And what else is passion than change and alteration? For if, being impassible before the incarnation, he suffered after the incarnation, he surely suffered by undergoing change; and if, being immortal before he became man, he tasted death after he became man, as your argument has it, he was altogether altered, becoming mortal from immortal. But such words, and indeed their fathers too, [the assemblies] of the holy ones cut off as rotten limbs from the healthy body. For this reason we urge you to fear the punishment and to hate the blasphemy. And I will show you that the holy Fathers held, in their own writings too, what we have gone through: some of them took part in that wonderful assembly, some were eminent in the churches after them, and some enlightened the world long, long before. But neither the difference of times nor the diversity of languages harmed their harmony; they are like a lyre that has many different strings but gives out one all-harmonious sound. … a hearing; for such teaching is beyond dispute and very profitable. Orthodoxos: Open your ears, then, and …

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Summary: Orthodoxos argues that suffering is a change, which the Nicene anathema forbids ascribing to the Son, and introduces a collection of testimonies from the Fathers.

  • Lines have dropped out of the OCR where “…” is printed: the subject of “cut off” (probably the councils of the holy Fathers), Eranistes’ consent to hear the testimonies, and the end of this section. Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged correction). The florilegium of testimonies follows in parts 3.25–36.

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Extrabiblical texts: Conc. Nic. 0 (Creed and Canons of the Council of Nicaea (325); allusion)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.24 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

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Τοῦ ἁγίου͵ Ιγνατίον, ἐπισκόπου ᾿Αντιοχείας καὶ Ἐκ τῆς πρὸς Σμυρναίους ἐπιστολῆς. Εὐχαριστίας καὶ προσφορὰς οὐκ ἀποδέχονται, διὰ τὸ μὴ ὁμολογεῖν τὴν εὐχαριστίαν σάρκα εἶναι τοῦ Σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, τὴν ὑπὲρ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν ἡμῶν παθοῦσαν, ἣν τῇ χρηστότητι ὁ Πατὴρ ἤγειρεν. Ἐκ τοῦ τρίτου «1όγου τῶν εἷς τὰς αἱρέσεις. Φανερὸν οὖν ὅτι Παῦλος ἄλλον Χριστὸν οὐκ οἶδεν, ἀλλ᾽ ἢ τοῦτον τὸν καὶ παθόντα, καὶ ταφέντα, καὶ ἀναστάντα, καὶ γεννηθέντα, ὃν καὶ ἄνθρωπον λέγει. Εἰπὼν γάρ᾽ « Εἰ δὲ Χριστὸς κηρύσσεται ὅτι ἐκ νεκρῶν ἐγήγερται, » ἐπιφέρει, τὴν αἰτίαν ἀποδιδοὺς τῆς σαρκώσεως αὐτοῦ" ε« Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ δι᾽ ἀνθρώπου ὁ θάνατος, καὶ δι᾽ ἀνθρώπου ἀνάστασις νεκρῶν. » Καὶ πανταχοῦ ἐπὶ τοῦ πάθους τοῦ Κυρίον ἡμῶν, καὶ τῆς ἀνθρωπότητος αὐτοῦ, καὶ τῆς γεχρώσεως, τῷ τοῦ Χριστοῦ κέχρηται ὀνόματι, ὡς ἐπὶ τοῦ, « Μὴ τῷ βρώματί σου ἐκεῖνον ἀπόλλυς, ὑπὲρ οὗ Χριστὸς ἀπέθανε. » Καὶ πάλιν" ε Νυνὶ δὲ ἐν Χριστῷ οἱ ποτὲ ὑμεῖς ὄντες μακρὰν, ἐγενήἐγγὺς, ἐν τῷ αἵματι τοῦ Χριστοῦ.» Καὶ πάλιν“ προσευχῆς ἀπέχονται. ε Χριστὸς ἡμᾶς ἐξηγόρασεν ἐκ τῆς κατάρας τοῦ νόμου, γενόμενος ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν κατάρα " γέγραπται γάρ' Ἐπικατάρατος πᾶς ὁ κρεμάμενος ἐπὶ ξύλου. » -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.ἰόγου. “Ὥσπερ γὰρ ἦν ἄνθρωπος ἵνα πειρασθῇ, οὕτω καὶ Λόγος ἵνα δοξασθῇ " ἡσυχάζοντος μὲν τοῦ Λόγου ἐν τῷ πειράζεσθσι, καὶ σταυροῦσθαι, καὶ ἀποθνήσκειν " συγγινομένον δὲ τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ ἐν τῷ νικᾷν, καὶ ὑπομένειν, καὶ χρηστεύεσθαι, καὶ ἀνίστασθαι, καὶ ἀναλαμδάνεσθαι. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ ε΄ λόγου τῆς αὐτῆς πραγματείας. Τῷ ἰδίῳ οὖν αἵματι λυτρωσαμένου ἡμᾶς τοῦ Κυρίου, καὶ δόντος τὴν Ψυχὴν ὑπὲρ τῶν ἡμετέρων ψυχῶν, καὶ τὴν σάρκα τὴν ἑαυτοῦ ἀντὶ τῶν ἡμετέρων σαρκῶν. Ὁ Τοῦ ἁγίου Ἱπποιλύτου ἐπισκόπου, καὶ μάρτυρος. Ἐκ τῆς πρὸς βασιιίδα τινὰ ἐπιστολῆς. ᾿'παρχὴν οὖν τοῦτο λέγει τῶν κεκοιμημένων, ἅτε πρωτότοκον τῶν νεκρῶν. Ὃς ἀναστὰς, καὶ βουλόκαὶ ἀτιμάζεσθαι. μένος ἐνδειχνύναι ὅτι τοῦτο ἦν τὸ ἐγηγερμενον, ὅπερ ἣν καὶ ἀποθνῆσκον, δισταζόντων τῶν μαθητῶν, προσκαλεσάμενος τὸν Θωμᾶν, ἔφη" ε Δεῦρο, ψηλάφησὸν καὶ ἴδε, ὅτι πνεῦμα ὀστοῦν καὶ σάρκα οὐκ ἔχει, ὡς ὑμεῖς με θεωρεῖτε ἔχοντα. » --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἂκ τῆς αὐτῆς ἐπιστοῆς. ᾿Απαρχὴν τοῦτον εἰπὼν ἐπεμαρτύρησε τῷ ὑφ᾽ ἡμῶν εἰρημένῳ, ὡς ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ φυράματος σάρκα λαθὼν ὁ Σωτὴρ, ἤγειρε ταύτην, ἀπαρχὴν ποιούμενος τῆς τῶν δικαίων σαρκὸὺς, ἵν᾽ οἱ πάντες ἐπ᾽ ἐλπίδι τοῦ ἐγηγερμένου προσδόχιμον τὴν ἀνάστασιν ἔξωμεν οἱ πιστεύσαντες. --- 7οῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ “2όγου εἰς τοὺς δύο λῃστάς. ᾿Αμφότερα παρέσχε τὸ τοῦ Κυρίου σῶμα τῷ

Tou hagiou͵ Ignation, episkopou ᾿Antiocheias kai Ek tēs pros Smyrnaious epistolēs. Eucharistias kai prosphoras ouk apodechontai, dia to mē homologein tēn eucharistian sarka einai tou Sōtēros hēmōn Iēsou Christou, tēn hyper tōn hamartiōn hēmōn pathousan, hēn tę̄ chrēstotēti ho Patēr ēgeiren. Ek tou tritou «1ogou tōn heis tas haireseis. Phaneron oun hoti Paulos allon Christon ouk oiden, all᾽ ē touton ton kai pathonta, kai taphenta, kai anastanta, kai gennēthenta, hon kai anthrōpon legei. Eipōn gar᾽ « Ei de Christos kēryssetai hoti ek nekrōn egēgertai, » epipherei, tēn aitian apodidous tēs sarkōseōs autou" e« Epeidē gar di᾽ anthrōpou ho thanatos, kai di᾽ anthrōpou anastasis nekrōn. » Kai pantachou epi tou pathous tou Kyrion hēmōn, kai tēs anthrōpotētos autou, kai tēs gechrōseōs, tǭ tou Christou kechrētai onomati, hōs epi tou, « Mē tǭ brōmati sou ekeinon apollys, hyper hou Christos apethane. » Kai palin" e Nyni de en Christǭ hoi pote hymeis ontes makran, egenēengys, en tǭ haimati tou Christou.» Kai palin“ proseuchēs apechontai. e Christos hēmas exēgorasen ek tēs kataras tou nomou, genomenos hyper hēmōn katara " gegraptai gar' Epikataratos pas ho kremamenos epi xylou. » -- Tou autou, ek tou autou.iogou. “Hōsper gar ēn anthrōpos hina peirasthę̄, houtō kai Logos hina doxasthę̄ " hēsychazontos men tou Logou en tǭ peirazesthsi, kai staurousthai, kai apothnēskein " synginomenon de tǭ anthrōpǭ en tǭ nikąn, kai hypomenein, kai chrēsteuesthai, kai anistasthai, kai analamdanesthai. --- Tou autou, ek tou e΄ logou tēs autēs pragmateias. Tǭ idiǭ oun haimati lytrōsamenou hēmas tou Kyriou, kai dontos tēn Psychēn hyper tōn hēmeterōn psychōn, kai tēn sarka tēn heautou anti tōn hēmeterōn sarkōn. Ho Tou hagiou Hippoilytou episkopou, kai martyros. Ek tēs pros basiiida tina epistolēs. ᾿'parchēn oun touto legei tōn kekoimēmenōn, hate prōtotokon tōn nekrōn. Hos anastas, kai boulokai atimazesthai. menos endeichnynai hoti touto ēn to egēgermenon, hoper hēn kai apothnēskon, distazontōn tōn mathētōn, proskalesamenos ton Thōman, ephē" e Deuro, psēlaphēson kai ide, hoti pneuma ostoun kai sarka ouk echei, hōs hymeis me theōreite echonta. » --- Tou autou, ak tēs autēs epistoēs. ᾿Aparchēn touton eipōn epemartyrēse tǭ hyph᾽ hēmōn eirēmenǭ, hōs ek tou autou phyramatos sarka lathōn ho Sōtēr, ēgeire tautēn, aparchēn poioumenos tēs tōn dikaiōn sarkous, hin᾽ hoi pantes ep᾽ elpidi tou egēgermenou prosdochimon tēn anastasin exōmen hoi pisteusantes. --- 7ou autou, ek tou “2ogou eis tous dyo lę̄stas. ᾿Amphotera paresche to tou Kyriou sōma tǭ

Of Saint Ignatius, bishop of Antioch and [martyr]. From the Letter to the Smyrnaeans. “They do not accept eucharists and offerings, because they do not confess that the eucharist is the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father in his goodness raised.” … From the third book Against the Heresies. “It is clear, then, that Paul knows no other Christ but this one, who suffered, and was buried, and rose, and was born, whom he also calls man. For having said, ‘But if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead,’ he adds, giving the reason for his incarnation, ‘For since through a man came death, through a man also came the resurrection of the dead.’ And everywhere, in speaking of the passion of our Lord, and of his humanity, and of his being put to death, he uses the name of Christ, as in ‘Do not by your food destroy that one for whom Christ died’; and again, ‘But now in Christ you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ’; and again, ‘Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree.’” Of the same, from the same book. “For as he was man so that he might be tempted, so he was also Word so that he might be glorified: the Word remaining quiet while he was tempted, and crucified, and died, but being present with the man when he conquered, and endured, and showed kindness, and rose, and was taken up.” Of the same, from the fifth book of the same work. “Since, then, the Lord redeemed us by his own blood, and gave his soul for our souls, and his own flesh for our flesh …” Of Saint Hippolytus, bishop and martyr. From the letter to a certain queen. “He calls him, then, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep, as the firstborn of the dead. He, having risen, and wishing to show that this which was raised was the same that also died, when the disciples doubted, called Thomas and said, ‘Come, touch and see; for a spirit does not have bone and flesh as you see that I have.’” Of the same, from the same letter. “By calling him firstfruits he bore witness to what we have said: that the Saviour, having taken flesh from the same lump, raised it, making it the firstfruits of the flesh of the righteous, so that all of us who have believed may have the resurrection to look for, in hope of him who has been raised.” Of the same, from the discourse On the Two Thieves. “The Lord’s body provided both to the world:

1 Cor 15:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 14:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 2:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 21:23 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 11:16 (allusion, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The florilegium of the third dialogue opens with testimonies from Ignatius, Irenaeus, and Hippolytus that the flesh of Christ suffered, died, and rose.

  • Part of Theodoret’s florilegium (3.25–36): each quotation is translated with the author and work as printed. The author heading for Irenaeus is lost in the OCR (“…”). Ignatius, Smyrn. 7.1, is quoted in Theodoret’s form (“eucharists and offerings”); a stray line “they abstain from prayer” (also from Smyrn. 7.1) appears in the OCR inside the Irenaeus quotation and is not translated there. Irenaeus’s Greek: Haer. 3.18.3; 3.19.3; 5.1.1 (the last ends mid-sentence as quoted). Hippolytus’s “letter to a certain queen” survives only in quotations; the passage “… and to be dishonored” in the OCR is a stray line and is not translated. The Hippolytus discourse On the Two Thieves continues in 3.26. Migne’s Latin column and marginal references read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Quotations within the quotations: 1 Cor 15:12, 21; Rom 14:15; Eph 2:13; Gal 3:13 (Deut 21:23); Luke 24:39 with John 20:27. Allusions: 1 Cor 15:20; Col 1:18; Rom 11:16.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column and marginal references read as Greek letters; Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; marginal Scripture references read as Greek letters inside a word): το 85. οἱ 88πιο 8 7. Οἱ οὐ τοϑυγγοχίβϑοί, οἱ υϑ! οὶ οβίδη- (φρ. 20. "51 οτ. κν, 2. χυ, 320. "7 (1085. 1, 18. → ; χιν, 1. δ" ἘΡἢ65. τι, 1. 85 (α]αί. τη, 1ὅ. ὅ" (δρ. → ; αὶ ἀογο ἰὰ → .

Extrabiblical texts: Ign. Smyrn. 7.1 (To the Smyrnaeans; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 3.18.3 (Against Heresies; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 3.19.3 (Against Heresies; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 5.1.1 (Against Heresies; quotation); Hippolytus, Frag. 2 8.1 (Further fragments and homilies; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Eucharist, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.25 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.26PG 83

κόσμῳ, αἷμα τὸ ἱερὸν, καὶ ὕδωρ τὸ ἅγιον. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «όγου. Καὶ νεκρόν τε ὃν τὸ σῶμα κατὰ τὸν ἀνθρώπινον τρόπον, μεγάλην ἔχει ζωῆς ἐν αὐτῷ δύναμιν. “Ἃ γὰρ οὐ προχεῖται τῶν νεκρῶν σωμάτων, ταῦτα ἐξ αὐτοῦ προεχέθη, αἷμά τε καὶ ὕδωο ᾽ ἵν᾽ εἰδείημεν, ἡλίκον ἡ χατασχηνώσασα δύναμις ἐν τῷ σώματι πρὸς ζωὴν δύναται, ὡς μήτε. αὐτὸ τοῖς ἄλλοις ὅμοιον φαίνεσθαι νεκρὸν, ἡμῖν δὲ τὰ ζωῆς αἴτια προχεῖν δύνασθαι. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «λόγου. Οὐ συντρίδεται δὲ ὀστοῦν τοῦ ἁγίου προδάτου, δεικνύντος τοῦ τύπου μὴ χαθιχνούμενον τῆς δυνάμεως τὸ πάθος ᾿ σώματος γὰρ ὀστέα δύναμις. Τοῦ ἁγίου Εὐσταθίου, ἐπισκόπου ᾿Αντιοχείας καὶ Ἔκ τοῦ περὶ ψυχῆς «1Ἰόγου. Δι' ὀλίγων ὃὲ ἔστιν ἐλέγξαι τὴν ἀσεδῇ συκοφαντίαν αὑτῶν μάλιστα μὲν γὰρ, εἰ μὴ τῆς τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἕνεκεν σωτηρίας εἰς τὴν τοῦ θανάτου σφαγὴν τὸ ἴδιον ἑκουσίως ἐξεδίδου σῶμα. Πρῶτον μὲν πολλὴν αὐτῷ περιάπτουσιν ἀδυναμίαν, ὅτι μὴ οἷός τ᾿ ἐγένετο τὴν τῶν πολεμίων ὁρμὴν ἐπισχεῖν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.16γου. Διατί δὲ περὶ πολλοῦ ποιοῦνται δεικνύναι τὸν Χριστὸν ἄψυχον ἀνειληφέναι δῶμα, γεώδεις ταῦθ᾽ οὕτως ἔχειν ὁρίζεσθαι, τηνικαῦτα τὰς τῶν παθῶν ἀλλοιώσεις τῷ θείῳ περιάψαντες Πνεύματι, ῥᾳδίως ἀναπείσωσιν αὐτοὺς, ὡς οὐκ ἔστι τὸ τρεπτὸν ἐκ τῆς ἀτρέπτου φύσεως γεννηθέν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ. ἐκ τοῦ “λόγου εἰς τὸ, « Κύριος ἔχτισέ μὲ ἀρχὴν ὁδῶν αὑτοῦ. ν Ὁ ἄνθρωπος γὰρ ὁ ἀποθανὼν τριήμερος μὲν ἀνίσταται, τῇ δὲ Μαριὰμ ἅπτεενέγχας ἐκφωνεῖ᾽ ε Μή μου ἅπτου, οὔπω γὰρ ἀναθέδηχα πρὸς τὸν Πατέρα μου " πορεύου δὲ πρὸς τοὺς ἀδελφούς μου, καὶ εἰπὲ αὐτοῖς " ᾿Αναβδαίνω πρὸς τὸν Πατέρα μου, καὶ Πατέρα ὑμῶν, καὶ Θεόν μου, καὶ Θεὸν ὑμῶν. » Τὸ δ᾽ « Οὔπω ἀναθέδηχα πρὸς τὸν Πατέρα μου, » οὐκ ὃ Λόγος ἔφασκε καὶ θεὸς ὁ οὐρανόθεν ὁρμώμενος, καὶ ἐν τοῖς κόλποις δια! τώμενος τοῦ Πατρὸς, οὐδ᾽ ἡ πάντα τὰ γενητὰ περιέχουσα Σοφία " ἀλλ᾽ αὐτὸς ὁ ἐκ παντοδαπῶν ἡρμολογη μένος μελῶν ἄνθρωπος τοῦτο ἐπέφηνεν, ὁ ἐκ τῶν νεκρῶν ἐγερϑεὶς, καὶ οὐδέπω μὲν πρὸς τὸν Πατέρα μετὰ τὸν θάνατον ἀνελθὼν, ταμιευόμενος δὲ αὑτῷ τῆς προόδου τὴν ἀπαρχήν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ Κύριον δὲ τῆς δόξης αὐτὸν τὸν ἄνθρωπον τὸν σταυρωθέντα σαφῶς ὀνομάξει γράφων " ἐπειδὴ καὶ Κύριον καὶ Χριστὸν ἀνέδειξεν αὑτὸν, καθάπερ οἱ ἀπόστολοι τῷ αἰσθητῷ Ἰσραὴλ ὁμοφρόνως διαλεγόμενοί φασιν" ε« ᾿Ασφαλῶς οὖν γινωσκέτω πᾶς οἶκος Ἰσραὴλ, ὅτι Κύριον αὐτὸν καὶ Χριστὸν ὁ θεὸς ἐποίησε. τοῦτον τὸν Ἰησοῦν, ὃν ὑμεῖς ἐσταυρώσατε. » Τὸν παθόντα τοιγαροῦν Ἰησοῦν Κύριον ἐποίησε, καὶ οὐ τὴν Σοφίαν, οὐδὲ τὸν Λόγον, τὸν ἀνέκαθεν ἔχοντα τῆς δεσποτείας τὸ κράτος, ἀλλὰ τὸν μετέωρον, τῷ σταυρῷ

kosmǭ, haima to hieron, kai hydōr to hagion. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou «ogou. Kai nekron te hon to sōma kata ton anthrōpinon tropon, megalēn echei zōēs en autǭ dynamin. “Ha gar ou procheitai tōn nekrōn sōmatōn, tauta ex autou proechethē, haima te kai hydōo ᾽ hin᾽ eideiēmen, hēlikon hē chataschēnōsasa dynamis en tǭ sōmati pros zōēn dynatai, hōs mēte. auto tois allois homoion phainesthai nekron, hēmin de ta zōēs aitia prochein dynasthai. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou «logou. Ou syntridetai de ostoun tou hagiou prodatou, deiknyntos tou typou mē chathichnoumenon tēs dynameōs to pathos ᾿ sōmatos gar ostea dynamis. Tou hagiou Eustathiou, episkopou ᾿Antiocheias kai Ek tou peri psychēs «1Iogou. Di' oligōn hoe estin elenxai tēn asedę̄ sykophantian hautōn malista men gar, ei mē tēs tōn anthrōpōn heneken sōtērias eis tēn tou thanatou sphagēn to idion hekousiōs exedidou sōma. Prōton men pollēn autǭ periaptousin adynamian, hoti mē hoios t᾿ egeneto tēn tōn polemiōn hormēn epischein. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou.16gou. Diati de peri pollou poiountai deiknynai ton Christon apsychon aneilēphenai dōma, geōdeis tauth᾽ houtōs echein horizesthai, tēnikauta tas tōn pathōn alloiōseis tǭ theiǭ periapsantes Pneumati, rhądiōs anapeisōsin autous, hōs ouk esti to trepton ek tēs atreptou physeōs gennēthen. --- Tou autou. ek tou “logou eis to, « Kyrios echtise me archēn hodōn hautou. n Ho anthrōpos gar ho apothanōn triēmeros men anistatai, tę̄ de Mariam hapteenenchas ekphōnei᾽ e Mē mou haptou, oupō gar anathedēcha pros ton Patera mou " poreuou de pros tous adelphous mou, kai eipe autois " ᾿Anabdainō pros ton Patera mou, kai Patera hymōn, kai Theon mou, kai Theon hymōn. » To d᾽ « Oupō anathedēcha pros ton Patera mou, » ouk ho Logos ephaske kai theos ho ouranothen hormōmenos, kai en tois kolpois dia! tōmenos tou Patros, oud᾽ hē panta ta genēta periechousa Sophia " all᾽ autos ho ek pantodapōn hērmologē menos melōn anthrōpos touto epephēnen, ho ek tōn nekrōn egerϑeis, kai oudepō men pros ton Patera meta ton thanaton anelthōn, tamieuomenos de hautǭ tēs proodou tēn aparchēn. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou Kyrion de tēs doxēs auton ton anthrōpon ton staurōthenta saphōs onomaxei graphōn " epeidē kai Kyrion kai Christon anedeixen hauton, kathaper hoi apostoloi tǭ aisthētǭ Israēl homophronōs dialegomenoi phasin" e« ᾿Asphalōs oun ginōsketō pas oikos Israēl, hoti Kyrion auton kai Christon ho theos epoiēse. touton ton Iēsoun, hon hymeis estaurōsate. » Ton pathonta toigaroun Iēsoun Kyrion epoiēse, kai ou tēn Sophian, oude ton Logon, ton anekathen echonta tēs despoteias to kratos, alla ton meteōron, tǭ staurǭ

the sacred blood and the holy water.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “And although the body was dead in human fashion, it has great power of life in it. For what does not flow from dead bodies flowed from it, blood and water, so that we might know how great is the power for life of the power that dwelt in the body, so that it did not appear dead like the others, but could pour out for us the causes of life.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “And a bone of the holy lamb is not broken, the type showing that the passion does not reach the power; for the bones are the strength of the body.” Of Saint Eustathius, bishop of Antioch and [confessor]. From the discourse On the Soul. “It is possible to refute their impious slander in a few words. Above all, if it was not for the salvation of human beings that he willingly gave up his own body to the slaughter of death, first they attach great weakness to him, as if he had not been able to check the onslaught of his enemies.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “Why do they make so much of showing that Christ assumed a body without a soul, these earthbound men who define things so? So that, by attaching the alterations of the passions to the divine Spirit, they may easily persuade [people] that what is mutable was not begotten of the immutable nature.” Of the same, from the discourse on “The Lord created me the beginning of his ways.” “For the man who died rises on the third day, and to Mary, who [wished] to touch [him], he cries out: ‘Do not touch me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ Now ‘I have not yet ascended to my Father’ was not said by the Word and God who came from heaven and dwells in the bosom of the Father, nor by the Wisdom that encompasses all created things; but the man himself, fitted together from members of every kind, uttered this, he who was raised from the dead and had not yet gone up to the Father after death, but was keeping for himself the firstfruits of the journey.” Of the same, from the same. “He clearly names the very man who was crucified Lord of glory, writing [so], since [God] also showed him to be Lord and Christ, as the apostles, speaking with one mind to the Israel according to the senses, say: ‘Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.’ So it was the Jesus who suffered that he made Lord — not the Wisdom, nor the Word, who had the power of lordship from the beginning, but the one who was lifted up and stretched out his hands on the cross.

John 19:34 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:36 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 12:46 (allusion, high confidence) · Prov 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 2:36 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The florilegium continues with Hippolytus on the blood and water from Christ’s side and Eustathius of Antioch arguing that the death, resurrection, and exaltation belong to the man Christ assumed, not to the Word.

  • Part of Theodoret’s florilegium (3.25–36). The first words complete the Hippolytus quotation begun in 3.25. Hippolytus, On the Two Thieves, fragments (also published on this site, Further Fragments 8.1–3). Eustathius of Antioch’s works On the Soul and on Prov 8:22 survive only in fragments; the word “confessor” in his heading is supplied, as it is lost in the OCR, and the text near “to Mary, who [wished] to touch” is garbled and translated by sense. Eustathius’s language (“the man” who died, rose, and was made Lord) is his own and is translated exactly. Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). Quotations: John 20:17; Acts 2:36. Allusions: John 19:34; John 19:36 (Exod 12:46); Prov 8:22; John 1:18; 1 Cor 2:8.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters): οἱ 580] → ; πη Δι: 068 → ; οἱ Ρὰεἴ ἴῃ βίηυ Ραίγ 8 νογβαραίυγ, 6. ϑαρί θη αυῷ ς, → ; οτα δά ροῦοἷν δ ποι (οι Πα θα Ὀδί ἔϊ, υἱ πη 66}} → .

Extrabiblical texts: Hippolytus, Frag. 2 8.1 (Further fragments and homilies; quotation); Hippolytus, Frag. 2 8.2 (Further fragments and homilies; quotation); Hippolytus, Frag. 2 8.3 (Further fragments and homilies; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.26 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.27PG 83

προσεχπετάσαντα τὰς χεῖρας. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ “λόγου. Εἰ γὰρ ἀσώματός ἐστιν οὔτε ἀφῇ χειρῶν ὑποπίπτει, οὔτ᾽ αἰσθητοῖς ὄμμασι περιλαμόάοὐ θανάτῳ κοινωνεῖ, οὐ κρύπτεται γῇ, οὐ τάφῳ χατακλείεται, οὐκ ἐκ μνημάτων ἀνίσταται. -- Τοῦ αὖ- «τοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «1όγου. « Οὐδεὶς αἴρει τὴν ψυχὴν ἀπ᾽ ἐμοῦ " ἐξουσίαν ἔχω θεῖναι τὴν ψυχήν μου, καὶ ἐξουσίαν ἔχω πάλιν λαδεῖν αὐτήν. » Εἰ δὲ ἑκατέρων τὴν ἐξουσίαν εἶχεν οἷα Θεὸς, συνεχώρει μὲν αὐτοῖς δὲ ἀνιστῶν ἐνεούργει. Ἐξ ἀναντιῤῥήτων δέδεικται ψήφων, ὅτι αὐτὸς δι’ ἑαυτοῦ τὸν ἴδιον ἀνεστήσατο νεουργήσας οἶκον. ᾿Αναθετέον δὲ καὶ τῷ θειοτάτῳ Πατρὶ τὰς τοῦ Υἱοῦ μεγαλουργίας. Οὔτε γὰρ Υἱὸς ἄνευ τοῦ Πατρὸς δημιουργεῖ, κατὰ τὰς ἀῤῥαγεῖς τῶν ἱερῶν Γραμμάτων ἀποφάσεις. Τούτου γὰρ δὴ χάριν, τότε μὲν ὁ θειότατος Γεννήτωρ τὸν Χριστὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν ἐγηγερκέναι γράφεται" τότε δὲ ὁ Υἱὸς τὸν ἴδιον ἀναστήσειν ὑπισχνεῖται ναόν. Εἰ οὖν ἐκ τῶν προεξῃ κασμένων ἀπαθὲς δέδεικται τὸ θεῖον τοῦ Χριστοῦ πνεῦμα, περιττῶς τοῖς ἀποστολικοῖς ἐπισχήπτουσιν ὅροις οἱ ἐναγεῖς. Εἰ γὰρ ὁ Παῦλος ἔφρασε τὸν Κύριον τῆς δόξης ἐσταυρῶσθαι, σαφῶς εἰς τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἀφορῶν, οὐ παρὰ τοῦτο δεήσει πάθος τῷ θείῳ προσἀπτειν. Τί οὖν τοῦτο συνάπτουσι πλέχοντες, ἐξ ἀσθενείας ἐσταυρῶσθαι λέγοντες τὸν Χριστόν; -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «“1όγου. Εἰ δὲ δὴ καὶ ἀσθενείας εἶδος περιάπτειν αὐτῷ προσῆκον ἦν, τῷ Ὁ ἀνθρώπῳ ταῦτα προσαρτᾷν ἀκόλουθον εἶναι φαίη τις ἂν, οὔτι γε δὴ τῷ πληρώματι τῆς θεότητος, ἣ τῷ ἀξιώματι τῆς ἀνωτάτω σοφίας, ἣ τῷ ἐπὶ πάντων κατὰ τὸν Παῦλον γραφομένῳ Θεῷ. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ “λόγου. Οὗτος μὲν δὴ τῆς ἀσθενείας ὁ τρόπος, δι᾽ ὃν εἰς θάνατον γράφεται κατὰ τὸν Παῦλον ἀφῖχθαι. Ζῇ γὰρ ἐκ δυνάμεως θεοῦ, τῷ θείῳ Πνεύματι δηλονὀτι συνδιαιτώμενος ὁ ἄνθρωπος ᾿ ἐπειδὴ καὶ δύναμις ὙΨίστου ὁ ἐν αὐτῷ πιστευόμενος κατὰ τοὺς φθάσαντας ὄρους ἀποδέδεικται. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὖτοῦ λόγου. Εἰ δὲ τῆς παρθενικῆς ἐπιδατεύσας μὴτρας οὐκ ἐμείωσε τὴν ἐξουσίαν, οὐδὲ τῷ ξύλῳ τοῦ σταυροῦ προσπαγέντος τοῦ σώματος, χραίνεται τὸ πνεῦμα. Τὸ μὲν γὰρ σῶμα μετάρσιον ἐσταυροῦτο, τὸ δὲ θεῖον τῆς Σοφίας Πνεῦμα καὶ τοῦ σώματος εἴσω διητᾶτο, καὶ τοῖς οὐρανίοις ἑπεδάτευε, καὶ πᾶσαν περιεῖχε τὴν γῆν, καὶ τῶν ἀδύσσων ἐκράτει, καὶ τὰς ἐκάστων ψυχὰς ἀνιχνεύων διέκρινε, καὶ πάντα ὁμοῦ συνήθως οἷα Θεὸς ἔπραττεν. Οὐ γὰρ εἴσω τῶν σωματικῶν ὄγκων ἡ ἀνωτάτω σοφία χαθειργμένη περιέχεται, καθάπερ αἱ τῶν ὑγρῶν καὶ ξηρῶν ὕλαι τῶν μὲν ἀγγείων εἴσω χαταχλείονται, περιέχονται δὲ μᾶλλον ἣ περιέχουσι τὰς θήκας. ᾿Αλλὰ θεία τις οὖσα καὶ ἀνέκφραστος δύναμις, τά τ᾽ ἐνδοτάτω καὶ ἐξωτάτω τοῦ νεὼ περιλαμδάνουσα κραταιοῖ, κἀντεῦθεν ἐπέκεινα διήκουσα, πάντας ὁμοῦ τοὺς ὄγκους κρατεῖ περιέχουσα. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «όγου. Εἰ δ' ὁ ἥλιος, σώμα ὧν ὁρατὸν, καὶ αἰσθήσει καταληπτὸν, τοσαύτας καὶ τοιαύτας πανταχοῦ γῆς ὑπομένων αἰκίας, οὐ μεταδάλλει τὴν τάξιν, οὐδὲ αἴσθεται μικρᾶς ἣ μεγάλης πληγῆς, τὴν ἀσώματον σοφίαν οἰόμεθα χραίνεσθαι, καὶ μεταλλάττειν τὴν φύσιν, εἰ ὁ ναὸς αὐτῆς σταυρῷ προσηλοῦται, ἣ λύσιν ὑπομένει, ἣ τρῶσιν ὑφίσταται, ἢ διαφθορὰν δέχεται; ᾿Αλλὰ πάσγει μὲν ὁ νεὼς, ἡ δὲ ἀχηλίδωτος οὐσία παντά-

prosechpetasanta tas cheiras. --- Tou hautou, ek tou autou “logou. Ei gar asōmatos estin oute aphę̄ cheirōn hypopiptei, out᾽ aisthētois ommasi perilamoaou thanatǭ koinōnei, ou kryptetai gę̄, ou taphǭ chatakleietai, ouk ek mnēmatōn anistatai. -- Tou au- «tou, ek tou autou «1ogou. « Oudeis airei tēn psychēn ap᾽ emou " exousian echō theinai tēn psychēn mou, kai exousian echō palin ladein autēn. » Ei de hekaterōn tēn exousian eichen hoia Theos, synechōrei men autois de anistōn eneourgei. Ex anantirrhētōn dedeiktai psēphōn, hoti autos di’ heautou ton idion anestēsato neourgēsas oikon. ᾿Anatheteon de kai tǭ theiotatǭ Patri tas tou Huiou megalourgias. Oute gar Huios aneu tou Patros dēmiourgei, kata tas arrhageis tōn hierōn Grammatōn apophaseis. Toutou gar dē charin, tote men ho theiotatos Gennētōr ton Christon ek nekrōn egēgerkenai graphetai" tote de ho Huios ton idion anastēsein hypischneitai naon. Ei oun ek tōn proexę̄ kasmenōn apathes dedeiktai to theion tou Christou pneuma, perittōs tois apostolikois epischēptousin horois hoi enageis. Ei gar ho Paulos ephrase ton Kyrion tēs doxēs estaurōsthai, saphōs eis ton anthrōpon aphorōn, ou para touto deēsei pathos tǭ theiǭ prosaptein. Ti oun touto synaptousi plechontes, ex astheneias estaurōsthai legontes ton Christon? -- Tou autou, ek tou autou «“1ogou. Ei de dē kai astheneias eidos periaptein autǭ prosēkon ēn, tǭ Ho anthrōpǭ tauta prosartąn akolouthon einai phaiē tis an, outi ge dē tǭ plērōmati tēs theotētos, hē tǭ axiōmati tēs anōtatō sophias, hē tǭ epi pantōn kata ton Paulon graphomenǭ Theǭ. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou “logou. Houtos men dē tēs astheneias ho tropos, di᾽ hon eis thanaton graphetai kata ton Paulon aphichthai. Zę̄ gar ek dynameōs theou, tǭ theiǭ Pneumati dēlonoti syndiaitōmenos ho anthrōpos ᾿ epeidē kai dynamis HyPsistou ho en autǭ pisteuomenos kata tous phthasantas orous apodedeiktai. --- Tou hautou, ek tou autou logou. Ei de tēs parthenikēs epidateusas mētras ouk emeiōse tēn exousian, oude tǭ xylǭ tou staurou prospagentos tou sōmatos, chrainetai to pneuma. To men gar sōma metarsion estaurouto, to de theion tēs Sophias Pneuma kai tou sōmatos eisō diētato, kai tois ouraniois hepedateue, kai pasan perieiche tēn gēn, kai tōn adyssōn ekratei, kai tas ekastōn psychas anichneuōn diekrine, kai panta homou synēthōs hoia Theos epratten. Ou gar eisō tōn sōmatikōn onkōn hē anōtatō sophia chatheirgmenē periechetai, kathaper hai tōn hygrōn kai xērōn hylai tōn men angeiōn eisō chatachleiontai, periechontai de mallon hē periechousi tas thēkas. ᾿Alla theia tis ousa kai anekphrastos dynamis, ta t᾽ endotatō kai exōtatō tou neō perilamdanousa krataioi, kanteuthen epekeina diēkousa, pantas homou tous onkous kratei periechousa. --- Tou hautou, ek tou autou «ogou. Ei d' ho hēlios, sōma hōn horaton, kai aisthēsei katalēpton, tosautas kai toiautas pantachou gēs hypomenōn aikias, ou metadallei tēn taxin, oude aisthetai mikras hē megalēs plēgēs, tēn asōmaton sophian oiometha chrainesthai, kai metallattein tēn physin, ei ho naos autēs staurǭ prosēloutai, hē lysin hypomenei, hē trōsin hyphistatai, ē diaphthoran dechetai? ᾿Alla pasgei men ho neōs, hē de achēlidōtos ousia panta-

” Of the same, from the same discourse. “For if he is incorporeal, he neither falls under the touch of hands, nor is grasped by the eyes of sense, … nor shares in death, nor is hidden in the earth, nor shut up in a tomb, nor rises from graves.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “‘No one takes my soul from me; I have authority to lay down my soul, and I have authority to take it again.’ If, then, he had authority over both as God, he allowed them [to destroy the temple], and by raising it he renewed it. It has been shown by incontestable verdicts that he himself, by himself, raised his own house, renewing it. But the mighty works of the Son must also be referred to the most divine Father; for the Son does not create without the Father, according to the unbreakable declarations of the holy Scriptures. For this reason the most divine Begetter is written at one time to have raised Christ from the dead, while at another the Son promises to raise his own temple. If, then, from what has been examined before, the divine spirit of Christ has been shown to be impassible, the accursed men lay hold of the apostolic definitions to no purpose. For if Paul said that the Lord of glory was crucified, clearly looking to the man, it will not on that account be necessary to attach passion to the divine. Why, then, do they join this to it, weaving together their saying that Christ was crucified out of weakness?” Of the same, from the same discourse. “But even if it were fitting to attach some form of weakness to him, one would say that it is consistent to ascribe these things to the man, not, surely, to the fullness of the Godhead, or to the dignity of the supreme Wisdom, or to the God who is, as Paul writes, over all.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “This, then, is the manner of the weakness through which, according to Paul, he is written to have come to death. For he lives by the power of God — the man, that is, dwelling together with the divine Spirit; since the one believed to be in him has been shown, by the definitions already given, to be the power of the Most High.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “If, having entered the virgin womb, he did not diminish his authority, neither is the spirit defiled when the body was fixed to the wood of the cross. For the body was crucified aloft, but the divine Spirit of Wisdom both dwelt within the body and walked the heavens, and encompassed the whole earth, and ruled the abysses, and, searching out the souls of each, discerned them, and did all things together, as God is wont. For the supreme Wisdom is not contained shut up within bodily masses, as materials liquid and dry are shut up inside vessels and are contained by their receptacles rather than containing them. Rather, being a divine and ineffable power, it embraces and strengthens the innermost and outermost parts of the temple, and, reaching from there beyond, holds all the masses together, encompassing them.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “If the sun, which is a visible body and perceptible to sense, undergoes so many and such great outrages everywhere on earth and does not change its order, nor feel any blow, small or great, do we suppose that the incorporeal Wisdom is defiled and changes its nature, if its temple is nailed to a cross, or undergoes dissolution, or suffers a wound, or receives corruption? But the temple suffers, while the stainless substance [remains] altogether

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

John 10:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 2:19 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 5:19 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 13:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 2:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 9:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:35 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Eustathius of Antioch’s testimonies continue: the incorporeal Word cannot be touched, die, or be defiled, but raised his own temple, while the weakness and the cross belong to the man.

  • Part of Theodoret’s florilegium (3.25–36); these are fragments of Eustathius of Antioch, from the discourse on Prov 8:22 cited in 3.26. A line is lost in the OCR after “the eyes of sense” (“…”). “The divine spirit of Christ” is Eustathius’s term for Christ’s divinity. The last quotation continues in 3.28. Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). Quotations and allusions: John 10:18; John 2:19; Gal 1:1; John 5:19; 1 Cor 2:8; 2 Cor 13:4; Col 2:9; Rom 9:5; Luke 1:35.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; marginal mark read as Greek letters): Ι. ς. → ; 86άεναῖ, εἰ → .

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.27 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.28PG 83

πασαν ἄχραντος τὴν ἀξίαν καθέστηκεν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ (“λόγου εἰς τὰς ἐπιγραφὰς τῶν ἀγαδαθμῶν.. Δόξαν δὲ ἐπίκτητον ὁ Πατὴρ οὐκ ἐπιδέχεται, τέλειος, ἄπειρος, ἀπερινόητος ὧν, ἀπροσδεὴς κάλλους καὶ παντοίας ἐπηρείας. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐδὲ ὁ Λόγος αὑτοῦ, Θεὸς ὧν ὁ γεννηθεὶς ἐξ αὐτοῦ, δι᾽ οὗ γεγόνασιν ἄγ- ( γελοι, καὶ οὐρανοὶ, καὶ γῆς ἄπειρα μεγέθη, καὶ πᾶσαι συλλήδδην τῶν γενητῶν ὅλαι τε καὶ συστάσεις " ἀλλ᾽ ὁ ἄνθρωπος ὁ Χριστὸς, ἐκ νεκρῶν ἐγειρόμενος, ὑψοῦται καὶ δοξάζεται, τῶν ἐναντίων αἰσχύνην ἄντικρυς ἀραμένων. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.16γου. Οἱ δὲ φθόνῳ τὸ μῖσος ἀράμενοι κατ᾽ αὐτοῦ, καὶ Λόγον τε καὶ θεοῦ τὸν ἑαυτοῦ ναὸν ἀξιοπρεπῶς ἀναστήσαντος. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς ἑρμηγείας τοῦ κβ' ψαλμοῦ. ἸΙέρας γοῦν ὁ προφήτης Ἡσαΐας, αὐτὰ μὲν τὰ τῶν παθῶν αὐτοῦ διεξιὼν ἴχνη, πρὸς τοῖς ἄλλοι: ἐπιφέρει καὶ τοῦτο μεγαλοφωνοτέρᾳ βοῇ, τό" ε Καὶ εἴδομεν αὐτὸν, καὶ οὐκ εἶχεν οὔτε εἶδος, οὔτε κάλλος “ ἀλλὰ τὸ εἶδος αὐτοῦ ἄτιμον καὶ ἐκλεῖπον παρὰ τοὺς υἱοὺς τῶν ἀνθρώπων. » Εἶτα διαῤῥήδην ἐκφαίνων, ὡς εἰς τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ εἰς τὸ θεῖον ἀνήρτηται τὰ τῆἧς ἀπρεπείας εἴδη τε καὶ πάθη, παρανυτίχα πάλιν ἐπάγει προσθείς" ε« "Ανθρωπος ἐν πληγῇ ὦν, καὶ εἰδὼς φέρειν μαλακίαν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὑτῆς ἑρμηνείας. Αὐτὸς ἄρ' οὗτός ἔστιν, ὁ μετὰ τὰς ὕθρεις ἀειδὴς, ἄμορφος ὁραθεὶς, εἶτα πάλιν ἐκ μεταθολῇς εὐπρέπειαν ἐνδυσάμενος. Οὐδὲ γὰρ ὁ κατοικῶν ἐν αὐτῷ Θεὸς ἀμνοῦ δίκην εἰς θάνατον ἤγετο, καὶ προδάτου τρόπον ἀπεσφάττετο, φυσικῶς ἀόρατος ὦν.. Ἔχ τῆς πρὸς ᾿Επίκτητον ἐπιστοιῆς. Τίς τοσοὔτον ἡσέθδησεν, ὡς εἰπεῖν ἅμα καὶ φρονεῖν, ὅτι ἣ θεότης αὑτὴ ἡ ὁμοούσιος τῷ Πατρὶ περιετμήθη., καὶ ἀτελὴς ἐκ τελείου γέγονε, καὶ τὸ ἐν ξύλῳ χαθηλωμένον οὐκ ἣν τὸ σῶμα,, ἀλλ᾽ αὐτὴ ἡ δημιουργὸς οὐσία τῆς σοφίας; -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὑτῆς πραγματείας. Ἃ γὰρ τὸ ἀνθρώνχινον ἔπασχε τοῦ Λόγον, ταῦτα συνὼν αὑτῷ ὁ Λόγος εἰς ἑαυτὸν ἀνέφερεν, ἵνα ἡμεῖς τῆς τοῦ Λόγον θεότῆτος μετασχεῖν δυνηθῶμεν. Καὶ ἦν παράδοξον, ὅτι αὐτὸς ἣν ὁ πάσχων καὶ μὴ πάσχων. Πάσχων μὲν, ὅτι τὸ ἴδιον αὑτοῦ ἔπασχε σῶμα,, καὶ ἐν αὐτῷ τῷ πάσχοντι ἦν’ μὴ πάσχων δὲ, ὅτι τῇ φύσε: Θεὸς ὧν ὁ Λόγος, ἀπαθής ἐστι. Καὶ αὐτὸς μὲν ὁ ἀσώματος ἦν ἐν τῷ παθητῷ σώματι, τὸ δὲ σῶμα εἶχεν ἐν ἑαυτῷ τὸν ἀπαθῆ Λόγον, ἀφανίζοντα τὰς ἀσθενείας

pasan achrantos tēn axian kathestēken. --- Tou autou, ek tou (“logou eis tas epigraphas tōn agadathmōn.. Doxan de epiktēton ho Patēr ouk epidechetai, teleios, apeiros, aperinoētos hōn, aprosdeēs kallous kai pantoias epēreias. ᾿All᾽ oude ho Logos hautou, Theos hōn ho gennētheis ex autou, di᾽ hou gegonasin ag- ( geloi, kai ouranoi, kai gēs apeira megethē, kai pasai syllēddēn tōn genētōn holai te kai systaseis " all᾽ ho anthrōpos ho Christos, ek nekrōn egeiromenos, hypsoutai kai doxazetai, tōn enantiōn aischynēn antikrys aramenōn. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou.16gou. Hoi de phthonǭ to misos aramenoi kat᾽ autou, kai Logon te kai theou ton heautou naon axioprepōs anastēsantos. --- Tou autou, ek tēs hermēgeias tou kb' psalmou. IIeras goun ho prophētēs Hēsaïas, auta men ta tōn pathōn autou diexiōn ichnē, pros tois alloi: epipherei kai touto megalophōnoterą boę̄, to" e Kai eidomen auton, kai ouk eichen oute eidos, oute kallos “ alla to eidos autou atimon kai ekleipon para tous huious tōn anthrōpōn. » Eita diarrhēdēn ekphainōn, hōs eis ton anthrōpon, all᾽ ouk eis to theion anērtētai ta tēēs aprepeias eidē te kai pathē, paranyticha palin epagei prostheis" e« "Anthrōpos en plēgę̄ ōn, kai eidōs pherein malakian. --- Tou autou, ek tēs hautēs hermēneias. Autos ar' houtos estin, ho meta tas hythreis aeidēs, amorphos horatheis, eita palin ek metatholę̄s euprepeian endysamenos. Oude gar ho katoikōn en autǭ Theos amnou dikēn eis thanaton ēgeto, kai prodatou tropon apesphatteto, physikōs aoratos ōn.. Ech tēs pros ᾿Epiktēton epistoiēs. Tis tosouton hēsethdēsen, hōs eipein hama kai phronein, hoti hē theotēs hautē hē homoousios tǭ Patri perietmēthē., kai atelēs ek teleiou gegone, kai to en xylǭ chathēlōmenon ouk hēn to sōma,, all᾽ autē hē dēmiourgos ousia tēs sophias? -- Tou autou, ek tēs hautēs pragmateias. Ha gar to anthrōnchinon epasche tou Logon, tauta synōn hautǭ ho Logos eis heauton anepheren, hina hēmeis tēs tou Logon theotētos metaschein dynēthōmen. Kai ēn paradoxon, hoti autos hēn ho paschōn kai mē paschōn. Paschōn men, hoti to idion hautou epasche sōma,, kai en autǭ tǭ paschonti ēn’ mē paschōn de, hoti tę̄ physe: Theos hōn ho Logos, apathēs esti. Kai autos men ho asōmatos ēn en tǭ pathētǭ sōmati, to de sōma eichen en heautǭ ton apathē Logon, aphanizonta tas astheneias

unstained in its dignity.” Of the same, from the discourse on the titles of the Songs of Ascents. “The Father does not receive acquired glory, being perfect, infinite, beyond conception, needing no beauty and beyond every insult. Nor does his Word, who is God, begotten of him, through whom came into being angels and heavens and the boundless expanses of the earth and, in a word, all the materials and structures of created things; but the man Christ, raised from the dead, is exalted and glorified, while his adversaries plainly incur shame.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “But those who out of envy took up hatred against him … [the Word] and God having raised his own temple in a manner worthy of him.” Of the same, from the interpretation of the twenty-second psalm. “So the prophet Isaiah, going through the very traces of his sufferings, adds this too among the rest with a louder cry: ‘And we saw him, and he had neither form nor beauty; but his form was without honor and failing beyond the sons of men.’ Then, declaring expressly that the forms of unseemliness and the sufferings are attached to the man and not to the divine, he adds straightway: ‘A man under a blow, and knowing how to bear weakness.’” Of the same, from the same interpretation. “He, then, is the one who after the outrages was seen unsightly and shapeless, and then again by a change put on comeliness. For the God who dwelt in him was not led like a lamb to death, nor slaughtered like a sheep, since he is by nature invisible.” … From the Letter to Epictetus. “Who has been so impious as to say and also to think that the Godhead itself, consubstantial with the Father, was circumcised and became imperfect from perfect, and that what was nailed to the wood was not the body but the very creative substance of Wisdom?” Of the same, from the same work. “For what the human [nature] of the Word suffered, the Word, being united with it, referred to himself, so that we might be able to share in the Godhead of the Word. And it was a paradox that he was the one who suffered and did not suffer: suffered, because his own body suffered, and he was in it as it suffered; did not suffer, because the Word, being God by nature, is impassible. And he, the incorporeal, was in the passible body, and the body had in itself the impassible Word, who was doing away with the weaknesses

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Isa 53:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The florilegium continues with Eustathius on the Songs of Ascents and on Ps 22, and with Athanasius’s Letter to Epictetus, all ascribing the sufferings to the humanity and impassibility to the Word.

  • Part of Theodoret’s florilegium (3.25–36). The first words complete the Eustathius quotation of 3.27. The Eustathius fragments here (on the titles of the Songs of Ascents, Pss 120–134; on Ps 22, LXX 21) survive only in quotations; the second is partly lost in the OCR (“…”). The author heading before the Letter to Epictetus is lost in the OCR; the letter is by Athanasius (Epict. 2, 6). Migne’s Latin column and his notes on variant readings, read as Greek letters, have been removed (logged corrections). Quotations: Isa 53:2–3 (LXX); Isa 53:7 (paraphrased). Allusions: Phil 2:9; Col 1:16.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's notes on variant readings read as Greek letters): βαρ θη ἰῃ-ἰἢοἵ τη" εἰ τ, 4018 δῦ 16 Π} ἐπ ἱπ- → ; οἱ αἰδβοιίοιιοβ, ΘΓ πη τηοὸχ άϊ : ε → ; 5 παντ. ἴϊὰ οἀ. Βοπ]. οἱ 1,135. πο ποὴ εὖπρε- → ; ὁ Βὶ Λόγος → ὁ Λόγος; οπἰ οἱ θοοἱ {Πυᾶ : ἂἱ ἰδ π), ἴῃ Γαΐ οὐτὰ ἰπ ψογραπ ἀΐϊσθιιϑ : « Βο! ν 116 (ΘΠ ρ] υ ἢΟ6, οἱ 'π στε. → .

Extrabiblical texts: Athanasius, Ep. Epict. 2 (To Epictetus; quotation); Athanasius, Ep. Epict. 6 (To Epictetus; quotation)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.28 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.29PG 83

αὐτοῦ τοῦ σώματος. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὐτῆς ἐπιστο.ϊῆς. Θεὸς γὰρ καὶ Κύριος τῆς δόξης ὧν, ἣν ἐν τῷ ἀδόξως χαθηλουμένῳ σώματι" τὸ δὲ σῶμα ἔπασχε μὲν νυττόμενον ἐν τῷ ξύλῳ, καὶ ἔῤῥεεν ἀπὸ τῆς πλευρᾶς αἷμα καὶ ὕδωρ' ναὸς δὲ τοῦ Λόγον τυγχάνον, πεπληρωμένον ἧν τῆς θεότητος. Διὰ τοῦτο γοῦν, ὁ μὲν ἥλιος ὁρῶν τὸν Δημιουργὸν αὖ- ᾿ ποῦ, ἐν τῷ ὑδριζομένῳ σώματι ἀνεχόμενον, τὰς ἀκτῖνας συνέστειλε, καὶ ἑσχότασε τὴν γῆν" αὐτὸ δὲ τὸ σῶμα φύσιν ἔχον θνητὴν, ὑπὲρ τὴν αὑτοῦ φύσιν ἀνέστη διὰ τὸν ἐν αὐτῷ Λόγον, καὶ πέπαυται μὲν τῆς κατὰ φύσιν φθορᾶς, ἐνδυσάμενον δὲ τὸν ὑπὲρ ἄνθρωπον Λόγον, γέγονεν ἄφθαρτον. --- Τὸ ἐγειρόμενον ἐκ νεκρῶν ἄνθρωπος ἦν, ἣ Θεός; Ἑρμηνεύει Πέτρος ὁ ἀπόστολος, ἡμῶν μᾶλλον γινώσκων, καὶ λέγει" « Καθελόντες αὑτὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ ξύλου, ἔθηκαν αὐτὸν εἰς μνημεῖον, ὁ δὲ Θεὸς ἤγειρὲν αὐτὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν. » Τὸ γοῦν ἀπὸ τοῦ ξύλου χαθαιρεθὲν σῶμα νεκρὸν τοῦ Ἰησοῦ, τὸ καὶ εἰς μνημεῖον τεθὲν ἐνταφιασθὲν δὲ ὑπὸ Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ ἀπὸ ᾿Αριμαθείας, αὑτὸ ἤγειρεν ὁ Λόγο; λέγων « Λύσατε τὸν ναὸν τοῦτον, καὶ ἐν τρισὶν ἡμέραις ἐγερῶ αὐτόν. » Ὁ καὶ πάντας τοὺς νεκροὺς ζωοποιῶν, καὶ τὸν ἐκ Μαρίας ἄνθρωπον Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐζωοποίησεν, ὃν ἀνείληφεν. Εἰ γὰρ ἐπὶ σταυροῦ ὧν τὰ προδιαλυθέντα νεκρὰ τῶν ἁγίων ἤγειρε σώματα, πολλῷ μᾶλλον ἐγεῖραι δύναται ὃ ἐφόρεσε σῶμα ὁ ἀεὶ ζῶν θεὸς Λόγος, ὥς φησιν ὁ Παῦλος" ε Ζῶν γὰρ ὁ λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ καὶ ἐνεργής. » οὐκ ἀποθνήσκει, τοὺς δὲ νεκροὺς ζωοποιεῖ. Ὡς γὰρ τὸ φῶς οὐ βλάπτεται ἐν σκοτεινῷ τόπῳ, οὐδὲ ἡ ζωὴ τὸ παθεῖν δύναται ἐπισχεψαμένη τὴν θνητὴν φύσιν. ΓἌτρεπτος γὰρ καὶ ἀναλλοίωτος ἣ τοῦ Λόγου θεότης ὥς φησιν ἐν προφητείᾳ ὁ Κύριος περὶ ἑαυτοῦ «ε “δετέ με ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι καὶ οὐκ ἡλλοίωμαι. » --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «1όγου. Ζῶν ἀποθανεῖν οὐ δύναται, μᾶλλον δὲ τοὺς νεκροὺς ζωοποιεῖ. Ἔστι τοίνυν καὶ πηγὴ ζωῆς τῇ ἐκ Πατρὸς θεότητι, ἄνθρωπος δὲ ὁ ἀποθαγὼν, μᾶλλον δὲ ἐκ νεκρῶν ἐγερθεὶς, ὃς καὶ ἐντυγχάνει ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν, ὁ ἐκ Παρθένου Μαρίας, ὃν ἡ τοῦ Λόγου θεότης δι᾽ ἡμᾶς ἀνείληφεν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «όγου. ᾿Εγένετο Λάζαρον ἀσθενήσαντα ἀποθανεῖν" ὁ δὲ Κυριακὸς ἄνθρωπος, οὐκ ἀσθενήσας, οὐδὲ ἄκων ἀπέθανεν" ἀλλ᾽ ἀφ᾽ ἑαυτοῦ ἦλθεν ἐπὶ τὴν τοῦ θανάτον οἰκονομίαν, στερεοποιούμενος ὑπὸ τοῦ ἐν αὐτῷ οἰχήσαντος θεοῦ Λόγου, τοῦ εἶπόντος «ε Οὐδεὶς αἴρει τὴν ψυχήν μον ἀπ᾽ ἐμοῦ" ἀπ᾽ ἐμαυτοῦ αὐτὴν τίθημι, ἐξουσίαν ἔχω θεῖναι αὐτὴν, καὶ πάλιν ἐξουσίαν ἔχω λαδεῖν αὐτήν.» Ἢ θεότῆς οὖν ἐστι τοῦ Υἱοῦ, ἡ τιθεῖσα καὶ λαμδάνουσα τὴν ψυχὴν οὗ ἐφόρεσεν ἀνθρώπου. Πλήρη γὰρ ἀνείληφε τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ἵνα καὶ πλήρη αὑτὸν καὶ σὺν

autou tou sōmatos. --- Tou autou, ek tēs autēs episto.ïēs. Theos gar kai Kyrios tēs doxēs hōn, hēn en tǭ adoxōs chathēloumenǭ sōmati" to de sōma epasche men nyttomenon en tǭ xylǭ, kai errheen apo tēs pleuras haima kai hydōr' naos de tou Logon tynchanon, peplērōmenon hēn tēs theotētos. Dia touto goun, ho men hēlios horōn ton Dēmiourgon au- ᾿ pou, en tǭ hydrizomenǭ sōmati anechomenon, tas aktinas synesteile, kai heschotase tēn gēn" auto de to sōma physin echon thnētēn, hyper tēn hautou physin anestē dia ton en autǭ Logon, kai pepautai men tēs kata physin phthoras, endysamenon de ton hyper anthrōpon Logon, gegonen aphtharton. --- To egeiromenon ek nekrōn anthrōpos ēn, hē Theos? Hermēneuei Petros ho apostolos, hēmōn mallon ginōskōn, kai legei" « Kathelontes hauton apo tou xylou, ethēkan auton eis mnēmeion, ho de Theos ēgeiren auton ek nekrōn. » To goun apo tou xylou chathairethen sōma nekron tou Iēsou, to kai eis mnēmeion tethen entaphiasthen de hypo Iōsēph tou apo ᾿Arimatheias, hauto ēgeiren ho Logo? legōn « Lysate ton naon touton, kai en trisin hēmerais egerō auton. » Ho kai pantas tous nekrous zōopoiōn, kai ton ek Marias anthrōpon Christon Iēsoun ezōopoiēsen, hon aneilēphen. Ei gar epi staurou hōn ta prodialythenta nekra tōn hagiōn ēgeire sōmata, pollǭ mallon egeirai dynatai ho ephorese sōma ho aei zōn theos Logos, hōs phēsin ho Paulos" e Zōn gar ho logos tou Theou kai energēs. » ouk apothnēskei, tous de nekrous zōopoiei. Hōs gar to phōs ou blaptetai en skoteinǭ topǭ, oude hē zōē to pathein dynatai epischepsamenē tēn thnētēn physin. GAtreptos gar kai analloiōtos hē tou Logou theotēs hōs phēsin en prophēteią ho Kyrios peri heautou «e “dete me hoti egō eimi kai ouk hēlloiōmai. » --- Tou autou, ek tou autou «1ogou. Zōn apothanein ou dynatai, mallon de tous nekrous zōopoiei. Esti toinyn kai pēgē zōēs tę̄ ek Patros theotēti, anthrōpos de ho apothagōn, mallon de ek nekrōn egertheis, hos kai entynchanei hyper hēmōn, ho ek Parthenou Marias, hon hē tou Logou theotēs di᾽ hēmas aneilēphen. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou «ogou. ᾿Egeneto Lazaron asthenēsanta apothanein" ho de Kyriakos anthrōpos, ouk asthenēsas, oude akōn apethanen" all᾽ aph᾽ heautou ēlthen epi tēn tou thanaton oikonomian, stereopoioumenos hypo tou en autǭ oichēsantos theou Logou, tou eipontos «e Oudeis airei tēn psychēn mon ap᾽ emou" ap᾽ emautou autēn tithēmi, exousian echō theinai autēn, kai palin exousian echō ladein autēn.» Ē theotēs oun esti tou Huiou, hē titheisa kai lamdanousa tēn psychēn hou ephoresen anthrōpou. Plērē gar aneilēphe ton anthrōpon, hina kai plērē hauton kai syn

of the body itself.” Of the same, from the same letter. “For being God and Lord of glory, he was in the body that was ingloriously nailed; and the body suffered, pierced on the wood, and from its side flowed blood and water; but being the temple of the Word, it was filled with the Godhead. For this reason the sun, seeing its Creator enduring in the body that was outraged, drew in its rays and darkened the earth; and the body itself, having a mortal nature, rose beyond its own nature because of the Word in it, and ceased from the corruption that is natural to it, and having put on the Word who is above man, became incorruptible.” … “Was what was raised from the dead man, or God? Peter the apostle explains, who knew better than we do, and says, ‘Taking him down from the tree, they laid him in a tomb; but God raised him from the dead.’ The dead body of Jesus, then, which was taken down from the tree, and laid in the tomb, and buried by Joseph of Arimathea, this the Word raised, who said, ‘Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.’ He who gives life to all the dead also gave life to the man from Mary, Christ Jesus, whom he assumed. For if, while he was on the cross, he raised the dead bodies of the saints that had already been dissolved, much more can the ever-living God the Word raise the body that he wore, as Paul says, ‘For the word of God is living and active.’ … does not die, but gives life to the dead. For as light is not harmed in a dark place, so neither can life suffer when it has visited the mortal nature. For the Godhead of the Word is immutable and unalterable, as the Lord says of himself in prophecy: ‘See me, that I am, and I have not changed.’” Of the same, from the same discourse. “Being living, he cannot die, but rather gives life to the dead. He is, then, also the fountain of life in the Godhead that is from the Father; but the man is the one who died, or rather was raised from the dead, who also intercedes for us, the one from the Virgin Mary, whom the Godhead of the Word assumed for our sake.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “It came about that Lazarus fell sick and died; but the Lord’s man did not die from sickness, nor unwillingly, but came of himself to the dispensation of death, strengthened by God the Word who dwelt in him, who said, ‘No one takes my soul from me; I lay it down of myself; I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it again.’ It is the Godhead of the Son, therefore, that lays down and takes up the soul of the man whom he wore. For he assumed the complete man, so that he might give life to him complete, and with him

John 19:34 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 13:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 13:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:57 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:52 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 4:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 32:39 (quotation, medium confidence) · Mal 3:6 (quotation, medium confidence) · Rom 8:34 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 11:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 10:18 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Athanasius’s Letter to Epictetus and further patristic testimonies hold that the Word, living and immutable, raised the body and the complete man he had assumed, while the death belonged to that man.

  • Part of Theodoret’s florilegium (3.25–36). The first words complete the quotation of Athanasius, Epict. 6, begun in 3.28; the next is Epict. 10. The author heading of the following quotations (“Was what was raised …”, with two more “of the same, from the same discourse”) is lost in the OCR; they are not identified here. Their language (“the man”, “the Lord’s man”) is the quoted author’s and is translated exactly. A few words are lost before “does not die” (“…”). Migne’s Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged correction). Quotations: Acts 13:29–30; John 2:19; Heb 4:12; Deut 32:39 with Mal 3:6 (LXX wording, as the quoted author has it); John 10:18. Allusions: John 19:34; Matt 27:45; Matt 27:52; Matt 27:57–60; John 11:1–14; Rom 8:34.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters): Ρ Ἢ Ὕ ἡ δ: οὐκ ([ ἀποθνήσκει → οὐκ ἀποθνήσκει.

Extrabiblical texts: Athanasius, Ep. Epict. 6 (To Epictetus; quotation); Athanasius, Ep. Epict. 10 (To Epictetus; quotation)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.29 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).

3.30PG 83

αὐτῷ τοὺς νεκροὺς ζωοποιήσῃ. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ πρὸς ᾿Αρειαγυὺς «όγου. "Ὅταν οὖν λέγῃ ὁ μακάριος Παύλος. ὁ ε« Ὁ Πατὴρ ἤγειρε τὸν Υἱὸν αὑτοῦ ἐκ νεκρῶν, » Ἰωάννης ἡμῖν διηγεῖται ὅτι ἔλεγεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς" ε« Λύσατε τὸν ναὸν τοῦτον, καὶ ἐν τρισὶν ἡμέραις ἐγερῶ αὐτόν. Ἔλεγε δὲ, φησὶ, περὶ τοῦ ἰδίου σώματος. ν Δῆλον οὖν ἐστι τοῖς προσέχουσιν, ὅτι τοῦ σώματος ἐγειρομένου, ὁ Υἱὸς λέγεται παρὰ τῷ Παύλῳ ἐγηγέρθαι ἐκ νεκρῶν. Τὰ γὰρ τοῦ σώματος αὐτοῦ εἰς αὐτοῦ πρόσωπον λέγεται. Οὕτως οὖν καὶ ὅτε λέγει" «Ζωὴν ἔδωκεν ὁ Πατὴρ τῷ Υἱῷ, » τῇ σαρκὶ δεδομένην τὴν ζωὴν νοητέον. Εἰ γὰρ αὐτός ἐστιν ἡ ζωὴ, πῶς ἡ ζωὴ ζωὴν λαμόδάνει; -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ περὶ ἐναγθρωπήσεως «Ἰόγου. Συνἰδὼν γὰρ ὁ Λόγος, ὅτι ἄλλως οὐκ ἂν λυθείη τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἡ φθορὰ, εἰ μὴ διὰ τοῦ πάντως ἀποθανεῖν, οὐκ οἷόν τε δὲ ἣν τὸν Λόγον ἀποθανεῖν, ἀθάνατον ὄντα, καὶ τοῦ Πατρὸς Υἱὸν, τούτου ἕνεκα τὸ δυνάμενον ἀποθανεῖν ἑαυτῷ λαμθάνει σῶμα,, ἵνα τοῦτο τοῦ ἐπὶ πάντας Λόγου μεταλαθὸν, ἀντὶ πάντων ἱκανὸν γένηται τῷ θανάτῳ, καὶ διὰ τὸν ἐνοικήσαντα Λόγον ἄφθαρτον διαμείνῃ, καὶ λοιπὸν ἀπὸ πάντων ἣἧ φθορὰ παύσησαι τῇ τῆς ἀναστάσεως χάριτι. Ὅθεν ὡς ἱερεῖον καὶ θῦμα παντὸς ἐλεύθερον σπίλον, ὃ αὐτὸς ἑαυτῷ ἔλαθε σῶμα προσαγαγὼν εἰς θάνατον, τῇ προσφορᾷ τῇ χκαταλλήλῳ ἀπὸ πάντων εὐθὺς τῶν ὁμοίων ἢφάνισε τὸν θάνατον. Ὑπὲρ πάντας γὰρ ὧν ὁ Λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ εἰκότως τὸν ἑαυτοῦ ναὸν, καὶ τὸ σωματικὸν ὄργανον προσάγων ἀντίψυχον ὑπὲρ πάντων ἐπλήρου τὸ ὀφειλόμενον τῷ θανάτῳ καὶ οὔ τως συνὼν διὰ τοῦ ὁμοίου τοῖς πᾶσιν ὁ ἄφθαρτος τοῦ Θεοῦ Υἱὸς, εἰκότως τοὺς πάντας ἐνέδυσεν ἀφθαρσίᾳ ἐν τῇ περὶ τῆς ἀναστάσεως ἐπαγγελίᾳ. Καὶ αὐτὴ γὰρ ἡ ἐν τῷ θανάτῳ φθορὰ κατὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων οὐκέτι χώραν ἔχει, διὰ τὸν ἐνοικήσαντα Λόγον ἐν τούτοις διὰ τοῦ ἑνὸς σώματος. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὑτοῦ “όγου. Τούτου ἕνεκα μετὰ τὰς θειοτάτας αὐτοῦ ἐκ τῶν ἔργων ἀποδείξεις, ἤδη καὶ ὑπὲρ πάντων θυσίαν ἀνέφερεν, ἀντὶ πάντων τὸν αὑτοῦ ναὸν εἰς θάνατον παραδιδοὺς, ἵνα τοὺς πάντας ἀνευθύνους, καὶ ἐλευθέρους τῆς ἀρκαίας πκαραὀάσεως ποιήσῃ, δείξῃ δὲ ἑαυτὸν καὶ θανάτου κρείττονᾶ, ἀπαρχὴν τῆς τῶν ὅλων ἀναστάσεως τὸ ἴδιον σῶμα ἄφθαρτον ἐπιδεικνύμενος. Τὸ μὲν γὰρ σῶμα, ὡς καὶ αὐτὸ κοινὴν ἔχον τὴν οὐσίαν’ σῶμα γὰρ ἣν ἀνθρώπινον, εἰ καὶ χαινοτέρῳ θαύματι συνέστη ἐκ Παρθένου μόνης" ὅμως θνητὸν ὃν, κατ᾽ ἀκολουθίαν τῶν ὁμοίων ἀπέθνησχε, τῇ δὲ τοῦ Λόγου εἰς αὑτὸ ἐπιδάσει, οὐκέτι κατὰ τὴν ἰδίαν φύσιν ἐφθείρετο, ἀλλὰ διὰ τὸν ἐνοικήσαντα τοῦ Θεοῦ Λόγον ἐκτὸς ἐγίνετο φθορᾶς. --- ᾿

autǭ tous nekrous zōopoiēsę̄. --- Tou hautou, ek tou pros ᾿Areiagyys «ogou. "Hotan oun legę̄ ho makarios Paulos. ho e« Ho Patēr ēgeire ton Huion hautou ek nekrōn, » Iōannēs hēmin diēgeitai hoti elegen ho Iēsous" e« Lysate ton naon touton, kai en trisin hēmerais egerō auton. Elege de, phēsi, peri tou idiou sōmatos. n Dēlon oun esti tois prosechousin, hoti tou sōmatos egeiromenou, ho Huios legetai para tǭ Paulǭ egēgerthai ek nekrōn. Ta gar tou sōmatos autou eis autou prosōpon legetai. Houtōs oun kai hote legei" «Zōēn edōken ho Patēr tǭ Huiǭ, » tę̄ sarki dedomenēn tēn zōēn noēteon. Ei gar autos estin hē zōē, pōs hē zōē zōēn lamodanei? -- Tou autou, ek tou peri enagthrōpēseōs «Iogou. Synidōn gar ho Logos, hoti allōs ouk an lytheiē tōn anthrōpōn hē phthora, ei mē dia tou pantōs apothanein, ouk hoion te de hēn ton Logon apothanein, athanaton onta, kai tou Patros Huion, toutou heneka to dynamenon apothanein heautǭ lamthanei sōma,, hina touto tou epi pantas Logou metalathon, anti pantōn hikanon genētai tǭ thanatǭ, kai dia ton enoikēsanta Logon aphtharton diameinę̄, kai loipon apo pantōn hēē phthora pausēsai tę̄ tēs anastaseōs chariti. Hothen hōs hiereion kai thyma pantos eleutheron spilon, ho autos heautǭ elathe sōma prosagagōn eis thanaton, tę̄ prosphorą tę̄ chkatallēlǭ apo pantōn euthys tōn homoiōn ēphanise ton thanaton. Hyper pantas gar hōn ho Logos tou Theou eikotōs ton heautou naon, kai to sōmatikon organon prosagōn antipsychon hyper pantōn eplērou to opheilomenon tǭ thanatǭ kai ou tōs synōn dia tou homoiou tois pasin ho aphthartos tou Theou Huios, eikotōs tous pantas enedysen aphtharsią en tę̄ peri tēs anastaseōs epangelią. Kai autē gar hē en tǭ thanatǭ phthora kata tōn anthrōpōn ouketi chōran echei, dia ton enoikēsanta Logon en toutois dia tou henos sōmatos. --- Tou hautou, ek tou hautou “ogou. Toutou heneka meta tas theiotatas autou ek tōn ergōn apodeixeis, ēdē kai hyper pantōn thysian anepheren, anti pantōn ton hautou naon eis thanaton paradidous, hina tous pantas aneuthynous, kai eleutherous tēs arkaias pkaraoaseōs poiēsę̄, deixę̄ de heauton kai thanatou kreittona, aparchēn tēs tōn holōn anastaseōs to idion sōma aphtharton epideiknymenos. To men gar sōma, hōs kai auto koinēn echon tēn ousian’ sōma gar hēn anthrōpinon, ei kai chainoterǭ thaumati synestē ek Parthenou monēs" homōs thnēton hon, kat᾽ akolouthian tōn homoiōn apethnēsche, tę̄ de tou Logou eis hauto epidasei, ouketi kata tēn idian physin ephtheireto, alla dia ton enoikēsanta tou Theou Logon ektos egineto phthoras. --- ᾿

the dead.” Of the same, from the discourse against the Arians. “When, then, the blessed Paul says, ‘The Father raised his Son from the dead,’ John tells us that Jesus said, ‘Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up’; ‘but he spoke,’ he says, ‘about his own body.’ It is clear, then, to those who pay attention, that because the body was raised, the Son is said by Paul to have been raised from the dead. For what belongs to his body is said of his person. So too, when he says, ‘The Father has given life to the Son,’ the life must be understood as given to the flesh. For if he himself is the life, how does the life receive life?” Of the same, from the discourse On the Incarnation. “For the Word, perceiving that the corruption of human beings could not be undone otherwise than by dying, and that it was impossible for the Word to die, since he is immortal and the Son of the Father, for this reason takes to himself a body capable of dying, so that this body, sharing in the Word who is above all, might be sufficient for death on behalf of all, and because of the Word who dwelt in it might remain incorruptible, and thenceforth corruption might cease from all by the grace of the resurrection. Hence, offering to death the body that he himself had taken for himself, as an offering and sacrifice free from every spot, he at once abolished death from all his like by the offering of a fitting equivalent. For being above all, the Word of God fittingly, by offering his own temple and bodily instrument as a ransom for all, paid the debt owed to death; and so, being united with all through what is like them, the incorruptible Son of God fittingly clothed all with incorruption by the promise of the resurrection. And the very corruption in death no longer has any hold against human beings, because of the Word who has come to dwell in them through the one body.” Of the same, from the same discourse. “For this reason, after the most divine demonstrations of himself through his works, he now also offered the sacrifice on behalf of all, handing over his own temple to death in place of all, so as to make all free of guilt and free from the ancient transgression, and to show himself stronger than death, displaying his own body incorruptible as the firstfruits of the resurrection of all. For the body, since it too had the common substance — for it was a human body, even if it was formed by a newer miracle from a virgin alone — was nevertheless mortal and died in accordance with its like; but by the Word’s coming upon it, it was no longer corrupted according to its own nature, but because of the indwelling Word of God it came to be beyond corruption.”

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Gal 1:1 (quotation, medium confidence) · Rom 6:4 (allusion, low confidence) · John 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 2:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:20 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 1:35 (allusion, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The florilegium gives Athanasius against the Arians and On the Incarnation: the Son is said to be raised and given life because his body was, and the immortal Word took a mortal body to die for all and make it incorruptible.

  • Part of Theodoret’s florilegium (3.25–36). The first words complete the quotation of 3.29. The passage “from the discourse against the Arians” has not been identified here in Athanasius’s Orations against the Arians. On the Incarnation 9.1–2 and 20.2–4 are quoted in Theodoret’s wording. Migne’s notes on variant readings and his Latin column, read as Greek letters, have been removed (logged corrections). Quotations: Gal 1:1 (cf. Rom 6:4); John 2:19, 21; John 5:26. Allusions: John 14:6; 1 Cor 15:20; Luke 1:34–35.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's notes on variant readings and Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word): κ, 18. τ. δὲ ν. ζωοπ. 014. τοὺς νεκροὺς δὲ μᾶλλον ζωοποιεῖ, τὸ παθ. δύν. [νἱἀά. ἀπ ηδ τι δύναται. Ζῶν. ᾿δἰά. Ρ. 6, εξ. 2 ἐς μ. δὲ ἐκ ν. ἐγ. Ἰνὶά. μᾶλλον δὲ καὶ ἐγερθεὶς ἂκ νεκρῶν. -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ 1λόγον. Ἢ γ' οὖν ζωὴ πιοῦδὰ οπιἴρῃ ἰδ. σώμ. ΙΝ ]ὰ. μας τοῦ σώματος αὐτοῦ. αὐτ. Ἢ ἄλλ. Ἐκ εἀ. Ῥοπι. γ᾿ [1Ρ8. ἰπϑενίυτῃ. μίο πὶ οχϑιαὶ ἰη εν. Βεποὰ. τ. 1, ραγί. 1, Ρ. δ → ; θαΐων ραγϑοὶνίς : δίψα ἰἰὰ ρὲ ἰά Β. πὰ πλοῦ ἰγαάδηϑ, οἰ ΟἸΏΠ68 δῦ δηϊ 408 Ια, Ομ Ϊἰπὶ → .

Extrabiblical texts: Athanasius, Inc. 9.1 (On the Incarnation; quotation); Athanasius, Inc. 9.2 (On the Incarnation; quotation); Athanasius, Inc. 20.2 (On the Incarnation; quotation); Athanasius, Inc. 20.4 (On the Incarnation; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 3.30 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/3-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).