Against the Letters of Petilian 1.24–2.25

Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 52 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, Contra litteras Petiliani (CSEL 52, 1909), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).

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Chapter 1

1.24CSEL 52:18–19

Quid, si uos sancta et uera Christi ecclesia conuinceret atque superaret, etiamsi nos nulla uel falsa, uos autem aliqua et uera traditionis documenta teneretis, quid iam uobis restet, nisi ut, si uultis, pacem diligatis, si autem non uultis, saltem obmutescatis? etenim quaecumque modo proferretis, facillime et uerissime dicerem tunc ecclesiae plenariae et catholicae unitati iam per tot gentes diffusae atque firmatae uos ea probare debuisse, ut uos intus essetis, illi autem quos conuinceretis pellerentur foras. quod si conati estis facere, procul dubio probare non potuistis et uicti uel irati uos ab innocentibus, qui damnare incerta non possent, immani sacrilegio separastis. si autem nec conati estis id agere, nimis execrabili et impia caecitate uos a frumentis Christi, quae per totum agrum, id est totum mundum, usque ad finem crescunt, paucis in Africa zizaniis offensi praecidistis.

What if the holy and true church of Christ were to convict and overcome you even if we had no documents, or false ones, about the handing over of the books, and you had some true ones? What would remain for you then, except to love peace if you are willing, or, if you are not, at least to be silent? For whatever you might produce now, I could say very easily and very truly that you ought at that time to have proved it to the full and Catholic unity of the church, already spread and established through so many nations, so that you would remain inside and those you convicted would be driven out. If you tried to do this, you were beyond doubt unable to prove it, and, defeated or angry, you separated yourselves with monstrous sacrilege from the innocent, who could not condemn things uncertain. But if you did not even try, then with a most accursed and ungodly blindness you cut yourselves off from the wheat of Christ, which grows through the whole field, that is, the whole world, until the end, because you were offended by a few tares in Africa.

Matt 13:30 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:38 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Even with true charges, the Donatists should have proved them to the worldwide church rather than separating from it.

  • Matt 13:24–30, 38 (the wheat and tares; the field is the world).

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.24 (CSEL 52:18–19; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.25CSEL 52:19–20

Postremo testamentum a quibusdam persecutionis tempore flammis traditum perhibetur: nunc undecumque prolatum est recitetur. certe in exordio promissionum testatoris id inuenitur Abrahae dictum: in semine tuo benedicentur omnes gentes, et hoc quid sit uerax interpretatur apostolus: in semine, inquit, tuo quod est Christus, nullius traditio fidem dei euacuauit. communicate omnibus gentibus et tunc uos testamentum a pernicie flammarum conseruasse gloriamini. si autem non uultis, quae pars potius credenda est quod testamento institerit exurendo, nisi quae non uult consentire prolato? quanto enim certius sine aliqua temeritate sacrilega ille traditoribus successisse iudicatur, qui nunc lingua persequitur testamentum, quod illi flamma persecuti perhibentur! Obicitis persecutionem: respondent uobis frumenta dominica: aut iuste factum est aut palea nostra fecit. quid ad haec dicitis? obicitis quod baptismum non habeamus: respondent uobis eadem frumenta dominica formam sacramenti etiam intus quibusdam nihil prodesse, sicut Simoni mago baptizato non proderat, multo magis nihil prodesse his qui foris sunt, inesse illis tamen discedentibus hinc probari, quia redeuntibus non restituitur. numquid igitur nisi impudentissime poteris aduersus ista frumenta clamare et dicere pseudoprophetas uestitos pellibus ouium, intus autem lupos rapaces, quandoquidem malos in unitate catholica uel non nouerunt uel pro unitate tolerant quos nouerunt?

Lastly, the Testament is said to have been handed over to the flames by certain men in time of persecution. Now let it be read aloud, from wherever it has been brought out. Surely at the beginning of the testator's promises this is found said to Abraham: “In your seed all nations will be blessed,” and the truthful apostle interprets what this means: “In your seed,” he says, “which is Christ.” No one's handing over has made void the faithfulness of God. Be in communion with all nations, and then boast that you preserved the Testament from destruction by fire. But if you will not, which party is rather to be believed to have pressed for burning the Testament, if not the one that will not agree with it once it is brought out? For how much more surely, without any sacrilegious rashness, is he judged to have succeeded the traitors who now persecutes with his tongue the Testament which they are said to have persecuted with fire! You charge us with persecution: the Lord's grain answers you, either it was done justly, or our chaff did it. What do you say to this? You charge that we do not have baptism: the same grain of the Lord answers you that the form of the sacrament profits some nothing even inside, as it did not profit Simon Magus after his baptism, and much more profits nothing those who are outside; yet it is proved to be in them when they go away from here, because it is not given again when they return. Can you, then, except most shamelessly, cry out against this grain and call them false prophets clothed in sheepskins, but inwardly ravenous wolves, since they either do not know the wicked in Catholic unity or tolerate for the sake of unity those they know?

Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 3:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 8:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:15 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: The Testament promises blessing to all nations; those who refuse communion with the nations are the real heirs of the traitors who burned it.

  • Gen 22:18; Gal 3:16; Rom 3:3; Acts 8:13–24; Matt 7:15.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.25 (CSEL 52:19–20; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.26CSEL 52:20–21

Uestros autem fructus si consideremus, omitto tyrannicas in ciuitatibus et maxime in fundis alienis dominationes, omitto furorem circumcellionum et praecipitatorum ultro cadauerum cultus sacrilegos et profanos, bacchationes ebrietatum et sub uno Optato Gildoniano decennalem totius Africae gemitum; omitto ista, quia sunt in uobis quidam qui haec sibi displicere ac semper displicuisse proclament. sed ea se dicunt, quia comprimere non possunt, pro pace tolerare; ubi se iudicio suo condemnant, quia, si amarent pacem, non discinderent unitatem. nam quae tanta dementia est pacem in ipsa pace uelle relinquere et eam in dissensione uelle retinere? itaque propter eos, qui mala eiusdem partis Donati, quae omnes uident et reprehendunt, fingunt se non uidere, usque adeo ut etiam de ipso Optato dicant: quid fecit? quis eum accusauit? quis conuicit? ego nescio, nou uidi, non audiui — propter hos ergo, qui se manifesta ignorare confingunt, exorti sunt Maximianistae, in quibus eis oculi pateant et ora claudantur: aperte se separant, aperte altare contra altare erigunt, aperte in concilio sacrilegi et uiperae et ueloces ad effundendum sanguinem et Dathae et Abiron et Corae comparandi appellantur et asperis uerbis detestati damnantur, aperte recipiuntur rursus in honoribus suis cum baptizatis suis. hi sunt fructus eorum pro Donati pace ista facientium, ut pelle ouina se contegant, et Christi pacem in toto orbe terrarum recusantium, ut intus sint lupi rapaces.

But if we consider your fruits, I pass over the tyrannical domination in the cities and especially on other people's estates; I pass over the fury of the Circumcellions, and the sacrilegious and profane cult of the corpses of those who threw themselves over cliffs, the drunken revels, and the ten years' groaning of all Africa under one Optatus the Gildonian. I pass over these things, because there are some among you who proclaim that these things displease them and always have. But they say that they tolerate them for the sake of peace, because they cannot suppress them; and in this they condemn themselves by their own judgment, for if they loved peace they would not tear unity apart. For what madness is it to want to abandon peace in peace itself and to want to keep it in dissension? So because of those who pretend not to see the evils of the same party of Donatus which everyone sees and blames, so much so that they even say of Optatus himself, “What did he do? Who accused him? Who convicted him? I do not know, I did not see, I did not hear”: because of these, then, who pretend not to know what is manifest, the Maximianists arose, in whose case their eyes may be opened and their mouths shut. Openly they separate, openly they set up altar against altar, openly in council they are called sacrilegious and vipers and swift to shed blood and comparable to Dathan and Abiram and Korah, and are condemned and cursed in harsh words; openly they are received back in their ranks together with those they baptized. These are the fruits of those who do these things for the peace of Donatus, so that they cover themselves with sheepskin, and who refuse the peace of Christ in the whole world, so that inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

Num 16:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:15 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine lists Donatist fruits, above all their open condemnation and then reception of the Maximianists.

  • The Circumcellions were Donatist bands of rural militants; some sought death by throwing themselves from cliffs and were honoured as martyrs. Num 16 (Dathan, Abiram, Korah); Matt 7:15.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Gildoniauo → Gildoniano.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.26 (CSEL 52:20–21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.27CSEL 52:21

Nihil me praetermisisse arbitror eorum, quae iste in epistula sua posuit, dumtaxat quae in ea parte ad quam peruenimus potui repperire; prodant etiam reliquam partem, ne forte ibi sit aliquid quod refelli non possit. haec autem, quae domino adiuuante respondimus, ammoneo caritatem uestram ut non solum petentibus detis, sed etiam non petentibus ingeratis. respondeant si quid uolunt, et si nobis nolunt, saltem ad suos litteras mittant, quas tamen nobis occultari non iubeant. quod si faciunt, apertissime fructus suos produnt, quibus lupi rapaces induti pellibus ouium demonstrentur, qui occulte insidiantur ouibus nostris et aperte pastoribus respondere formidant. nos eis tantummodo schismatis crimen obicimus, quo penitus omnes inuoluti sunt, non quorundam eorum crimina, quae sibi quidam eorum displicere respondeant. ipsi uero si nobis aliena crimina non obiciant, non habent quod obiciant, et ideo se ab scelere schismatis defendere omnino non possunt, quia siue propter falsa et a se conficta siue etiam propter uera sed tamen paleae crimina se ab area dominica et ab innocentia frumentorum toto orbe crescentium nefaria diremptione separarunt.

I think I have passed over none of the things he set down in his letter, at least of those I could find in the part we obtained; let them bring out the remaining part too, in case there is something there that cannot be refuted. As for these answers we have given with the Lord's help, I urge you, beloved, not only to give them to those who ask, but to press them even on those who do not. Let them answer if they wish; and if they do not wish to answer us, let them at least send letters to their own people, but not order them to be hidden from us. If they do that, they very plainly display their fruits, by which they are shown to be ravenous wolves clothed in sheepskins, who secretly lie in wait for our sheep and are afraid to answer the shepherds openly. We charge them only with the crime of schism, in which all of them are wholly involved, not with the crimes of some of them, which some of them may answer displease them. But they, if they do not charge us with other people's crimes, have nothing to charge; and therefore they cannot defend themselves at all from the crime of schism, because, whether on account of false charges invented by themselves or even on account of true ones, but still the crimes of chaff, they separated themselves by an abominable rupture from the Lord's threshing floor and from the innocence of the grain growing through the whole world.

Matt 7:15 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine urges Catholics to circulate his reply and charges the Donatists with schism alone.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (split word (OCR)): direm, ptione → diremptione.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.27 (CSEL 52:21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.28CSEL 52:21–22

Nisi forte expectatis a me, ut etiam de Manicheo quae interposuit refellantur. qua in re nobis non displicet nisi quia pestilentiosissimum et perniciosissimum errorem, id est Manicheorum haeresem, omnino leuissima et prope nulla reprehensione culpauit, quem ueritatis fortissimis documentis catholica expugnat. hereditas enim Christi in omnibus gentibus constituta aduersus omnes exheredatas haereses tuta est. sed sicut ait dominus: quomodo potest satanas satanan eicere, ita Manicheorum errorem quomodo potest Donatistarum error euertere?

Unless perhaps you expect me also to refute what he put in about Manichaeus. In this matter nothing displeases us except that he blamed a most pestilential and pernicious error, that is, the heresy of the Manichees, with a very light and almost nonexistent reproof, an error which the Catholic Church defeats with the strongest proofs of truth. For the inheritance of Christ, established in all nations, is safe against all disinherited heresies. But as the Lord says, “How can Satan cast out Satan?”, so how can the error of the Donatists overthrow the error of the Manichees?

Mark 3:23 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian's remarks on the Manichees need no refutation; one error cannot overthrow another.

  • Mark 3:23.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (joined words (OCR)): displicetnisi → displicet nisi.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.28 (CSEL 52:21–22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

1.29CSEL 52:22

Quapropter, carissimi, quamquam multis modis conuictus error iste superetur nec ullis (ass)ertionibus qualiscumque rationis, sed sola impudentia pertinaci resistere audeat ueritati, tamen, ne memoriam uestram documentorum oneret multitudo, hoc unum Maximianistarum factum tenete, hoc in eorum fronte configite, hoc eis ad comprimendas dolosas linguas in ora coartate, hoc tamquam tridenti te u uelut tricipitem bestiam eorum calumniam trucidate. traditionem obiciunt, persecutionem obiciunt, falsum baptisma obiciunt: de solis Maximianistis ad omnia respondete. quod enim maiores eorum tradiderunt sanctos codices flammis, occultum esse arbitrantur: sed cum (sacrilegium schismatis crimen superet traditionis, Maximianistas) sacrilegio schismatis inquinatos in suis honoribus receperunt. hoc certe occultare non possunt. item persecutiones uiolentissimas, quas quibuslibet ubi potuerint faciunt, occultas esse arbitrantur: sed cum spiritalis persecutio persecutionem superet corporalem, Maximianistas, quos ipsi corporaliter persecuti sunt et de quibus ipsi dixerunt: ueloces pedes eorum ad effundendum sanguinem, in suis honoribus receperunt. hoc certe occultare non possunt. Postremo baptismi quaestionem qua miseros fallunt occultam esse arbitrantur: sed cum dicant baptismum non habere quotquot praeter communionem unius ecclesiae baptizantur, Maximianistas cum eis, quos extra istorum communionem in schismate baptizarunt, in suis honoribus receperunt. hoc certe occultare non possunt.

Therefore, dearest friends, although this error is overcome by being refuted in many ways, and dares to resist the truth not with any assertions of any kind of reason but only with obstinate impudence, still, so that a multitude of proofs may not burden your memory, hold on to this one act concerning the Maximianists; nail it to their foreheads; force it into their mouths to check their deceitful tongues; with it, as with a three-pronged weapon, slaughter their slander as a three-headed beast. They charge us with handing over the books, they charge us with persecution, they charge us with false baptism: answer everything from the Maximianists alone. They think it is hidden that their forebears handed the holy books over to the flames; but since the sacrilege of schism exceeds the crime of handing over, they received in their ranks the Maximianists, defiled by the sacrilege of schism. This at least they cannot hide. Again, they think the most violent persecutions which they carry out against anyone they can, wherever they can, are hidden; but since spiritual persecution exceeds bodily persecution, they received in their ranks the Maximianists, whom they persecuted bodily and of whom they themselves said, “Their feet are swift to shed blood.” This at least they cannot hide. Lastly, they think the question of baptism, by which they deceive the wretched, is hidden; but while they say that all who are baptized outside the communion of the one church do not have baptism, they received in their ranks the Maximianists together with those whom they had baptized in schism outside these men's communion. This at least they cannot hide.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Rom 3:15 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Maximianist affair answers all three Donatist charges: handing over the books, persecution, and false baptism.

  • The editor's round-bracketed supplements are translated. “Three-pronged weapon”: the text is damaged at this point (“tridenti te u uelut”); translated by sense.
  • Rom 3:15.

Topics: Heresy, Baptism, Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.29 (CSEL 52:22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

1.30CSEL 52:22–23

At haec, inquiunt, pro pace non maculant et bonum est rigorem seueritatis ad misericordiam flectere, ut denuo rami fracti inserantur. ita ergo tota causa concluditur uicta in illis, inuicta pro nobis, quia, si nomen pacis ad tolerandos in schismate malos in qualemcumque umbram defensionis assumitur, procul dubio cum horrendo scelere et sine ulla defensione per unitatem orbis terrarum uera pax ipsa uiolatur. Haec, fratres, cum impigra mansuetudine agenda et praedicanda retinete: diligite homines, interficite errores, sine superbia de ueritate praesumite, sine saeuitia pro ueritate certate, orate pro eis quos redarguitis atque conuincitis. pro talibus enim propheta deum deprecatur dicens: imple facies eorum ignominia, et quaerent nomen tuum, domine. quod quidem iam fecit dominus, ut eorum facies ignominia Maximianistarum apertissime impleret; superest ut norint salubriter erubescere. ita enim nomen domini quaerere poterunt, a quo perniciosissime auersi sunt, dum pro eo suum nomen extollunt, uiuatis et perseueretis in Christo et multiplicemini atque abundetis in caritate dei et in inuicem et in omnes, dilectissimi fratres.

“But these things,” they say, “do not stain when done for peace, and it is good to bend the rigour of severity to mercy, so that broken branches may be grafted in again.” So the whole case is concluded, lost for them and won for us: for if the name of peace is taken up as some shadow of defence for tolerating the wicked in schism, then beyond doubt true peace itself is violated, with a horrible crime and without any defence, through the unity of the whole world. Hold on to these things, brothers, to be pursued and preached with unwearied gentleness: love men, kill errors; be confident of the truth without pride; contend for the truth without cruelty; pray for those whom you refute and convict. For the prophet prays to God for such people, saying, “Fill their faces with shame, and they will seek your name, O Lord.” The Lord has indeed already done this, filling their faces most plainly with the shame of the Maximianists; it remains for them to learn to blush to their salvation. For so they will be able to seek the name of the Lord, from whom they have turned away most ruinously while exalting their own name in its place. May you live and persevere in Christ, and be multiplied and abound in the love of God, toward one another and toward all, dearest brothers.

Rom 11:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 83:16 (82:17 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Thess 3:12 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine concludes Book 1 with a charge to love those in error while refuting their errors.

  • Rom 11:23 (branches grafted in); Ps 83:16 (82:17 LXX); 1 Thess 3:12.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (leaked chapter and section numbers; stray mark): XX VIIII. 31.Haec, → Haec,; At haec,* → At haec,.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 1.30 (CSEL 52:22–23; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/1-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 2

2.1CSEL 52:23–24

Primis partibus epistulae Petiliani quas tantummodo inueneramus satis nos respondisse meminerunt qui ea legere uel audire potuerunt. sed quia postea tota est a fratribus inuenta atque descripta missaque nobis, ut uniuersae respondeamus, non erat defugiendum hoc officium stili nostri, non quia ille nouum aliquid dicit, cui non iam multis modis et saepe responsum est; sed propter tardiores fratres, qui ea quae alicubi legerint ad omnia paria referre non possunt, ita morem geram eis qui me omnino ad singula respondere compellunt, ut quasi alternis sermonibus in praesentia disseramus. uerba ex epistula eius ponam sub eius nomine et responsionem reddam sub meo nomine, tamquam, cum ageremus, a notariis excepta sint. ita nemo erit qui me aliquid praetermisisse aut propter indiscretas personas se non potuisse intellegere conqueratur; simul etiam ut idem ipsi Donatistae, qui coram nobiscum disserere nolunt, per litteras quas suis ediderunt ita non effugiant respondentem sibi ad singula ueritatem, tamquam nobiscum faciem ad faciem colloquantur.

Those who were able to read or hear it remember that we answered adequately the first parts of Petilian's letter, which were all we had found. But since afterwards the whole letter was found by the brothers, copied, and sent to us so that we might answer all of it, this duty of our pen was not to be shirked: not because he says anything new that has not already been answered often and in many ways, but for the sake of slower brothers, who cannot apply what they have read somewhere to every parallel case. So I will humour those who insist that I answer every point, so that we may argue as if in alternating speeches face to face. I will set down the words from his letter under his name and give the answer under my own, as though they had been taken down by stenographers while we were debating. In this way no one will be able to complain that I have passed over anything, or that he could not understand because the speakers were not distinguished; and at the same time the Donatists themselves, who refuse to argue with us in person, will not escape, through the letters they have published to their own people, the truth that answers them point by point, just as if they were speaking with us face to face.

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine explains that, having obtained the whole of Petilian's letter, he will answer it point by point in the form of a dialogue.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.1 (CSEL 52:23–24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.2CSEL 52:24

Ab ipso exordio epistulae suae Petilianus dixit: Petilianus episcopus dilectissimis fratribus compresbyteris et diaconibus ministris per diocesim nobiscum in sancto euangelio constitutis: (gratia uobis et pax a deo patre nostro et domino lesu Christo.

At the very beginning of his letter Petilian said: “Petilian, bishop, to his dearly beloved brothers, fellow presbyters and deacons, ministers appointed with us throughout the diocese in the holy gospel: grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.”

Rom 1:7 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian's greeting.

  • Rom 1:7 and parallels.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.2 (CSEL 52:24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

2.3CSEL 52:24

Augustinus respondit: Agnosco apostolicam salutationem. uideris quid dicas; unde tamen didiceris quod dicis aduerte. sic salutat Paulus Romanos, sic Corinthios, sic Galatas, sic Ephesios Colossenses Philippenses Thessalonicenses. quae igitur. dementia est cum his ecclesiis nolle communicare pacis salutem, in quarum epistulis didicisti pacificam salutationem?

Augustine answered: I recognize the apostolic greeting. Consider what you are saying; but notice where you learned what you say. So Paul greets the Romans, so the Corinthians, so the Galatians, so the Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, and Thessalonians. What madness is it, then, to refuse to share the greeting of peace with those churches in whose letters you learned the peaceable greeting?

1 Cor 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:2 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian uses the apostolic greeting of the very churches whose communion he rejects.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.3 (CSEL 52:24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.4CSEL 52:24

Petilianus dixit: Bis baptisma nobis obiciunt hi qui sub nomine baptismi animas suas reo lauacro polluerunt, quibus equidem obscenis sordes cunctae mundiores sunt, quos peruersa munditia aqua sua contigit inquinari.

Petilian said: “They charge us with a double baptism, those who under the name of baptism have polluted their souls with a guilty washing; than whom, filthy as they are, all dirt is cleaner, who through a perverse cleanness have come to be defiled by their own water.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian accuses the Catholics of polluting souls with a false baptism.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.4 (CSEL 52:24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.5CSEL 52:24–25

Augustinus respondit: Nec aqua nostra inquinamur nec uestra mundamur, sed aqua baptismi, in nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti cum datur alicui, nec nostra nec uestra est, sed illius de quo Iohanni dictum est: super quem uideris spiritum sicut columbam descendentem et manentem super eum, hic est qui baptizat in spiritu sancto.

Augustine answered: We are neither defiled by our water nor cleansed by yours; but the water of baptism, when it is given to anyone in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, is neither ours nor yours, but his of whom it was said to John: “He on whom you see the Spirit descending like a dove and remaining on him, this is he who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.”

Matt 28:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:33 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Baptism in the name of the Trinity belongs to Christ, not to either party.

  • Matt 28:19; John 1:33.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.5 (CSEL 52:24–25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.6CSEL 52:25

Petilianus dixit: Conscientia namque dantis Conscientia quae abluat accipientis.

Petilian said: “For it is the conscience of the giver that is looked to, to cleanse that of the receiver.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian's maxim on the giver's conscience.

  • The digital text repeats “Conscientia” and lacks the verb (attenditur) given in 1.2; translated as there.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.6 (CSEL 52:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.7CSEL 52:25

Augustinus respondit: De conscientia Christi ergo securi sumus. nam si quemlibet hominem ponas, incerta erit accipientis mundatio, quia incerta conscientia est abluentis.

Augustine answered: Then we are secure about the conscience of Christ. For if you put any man in that place, the cleansing of the receiver will be uncertain, because the conscience of the one who washes is uncertain.

Notes and citation

Summary: Only Christ's conscience gives certainty.

Topics: Baptism, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.7 (CSEL 52:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.8CSEL 52:25

Petilianus dixit: Nam qui fidem a perfido sumpserit non fidem percipit sed reatum.

Petilian said: “For he who has received faith from the faithless receives not faith but guilt.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian's maxim on faith from the faithless.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray hyphen): Na-m qui → Nam qui.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.8 (CSEL 52:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.9CSEL 52:25

Augustinus respondit: Non est perfidus Christus, a quo fidelis homo fidem percipit, non reatum. credit quippe in eum qui iustificat impium, ut deputetur fides eius ad iustitiam.

Augustine answered: Christ is not faithless, from whom a faithful man receives faith, not guilt. For he believes in him who justifies the ungodly, so that his faith is reckoned as righteousness.

Rom 4:5 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Faith comes from Christ, who is never faithless.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.9 (CSEL 52:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.10CSEL 52:25

Petilianus dixit: Omnis res enim origine et radice consistit et, si caput non habet aliquid, nihil est, nec quicquam bene regenerat, nisi bono semine regeneretur.

Petilian said: “For everything consists by its origin and root, and if it does not have something as its head, it is nothing; nor does anything regenerate well unless it is regenerated by good seed.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian's maxim on origin, root, head, and seed.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.10 (CSEL 52:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.11CSEL 52:25–26

Augustinus respondit: Quid te pro Christo uis opponere, sub quo te non uis ponere? ille est origo et radix caputque nascentis, de quo non timemus sicut de homine quolibet, ne forte sit fictus et pessimus et de origine pessima oriamur, de pessima radice surgamus, pessimo capiti conformemur. quis enim homo de homine securus sit, cum scriptum sit: maledictus omnis qu i spem suam ponit in homine? semen autem quo regeneramur uerbum dei est, id est euangelium, unde apostolus dicit: in Christo enim Iesu per euangelium ego uos genui. qui tamen etiam non caste annuntiantes euangelium annuntiare permittit et in hoc gaudet, quia, etsi non caste annuntiabant sua quaerentes, non quae Iesu Christi, castum tamen erat quod annuntiabant. et dixerat dominus de quibusdam talibus: quae dicunt facite, quae autem faciunt facere nolite. dicunt enim et non faciunt. si ergo caste annuntiatur quod castum est, etiam ipse annuntiator, quia uerbo consociatur, credentem congenerat; si autem ipse non regeneretur, castum tamen sit quod annuntiat, nascitur credens non ex ministri sterilitate, sed ex ueritatis fecunditate.

Augustine answered: Why do you want to set yourself up in place of Christ, under whom you do not want to place yourself? He is the origin and root and head of the one being born; about him we have no fear, as we might about any man, that perhaps he is a hypocrite and very wicked, and that we spring from a very wicked origin, rise from a very wicked root, are conformed to a very wicked head. For what man can be secure about a man, when it is written, “Cursed is everyone who puts his hope in man”? The seed by which we are regenerated is the word of God, that is, the gospel; hence the apostle says, “For in Christ Jesus I begot you through the gospel.” Yet he allows even those who proclaim the gospel impurely to proclaim it, and rejoices in this, because, although they proclaimed it impurely, seeking their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ, what they proclaimed was pure. And the Lord had said of some such people, “Do what they say, but do not do what they do; for they say and do not do.” So if what is pure is proclaimed purely, the proclaimer himself too, because he is joined with the word, begets the believer along with it; but if he himself is not regenerated, yet what he proclaims is pure, the believer is born not from the minister's barrenness but from the fruitfulness of the truth.

Jer 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 23:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 1:23 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Christ is the origin and head; the seed is the gospel, which bears fruit even when preached by unworthy ministers.

  • Jer 17:5; 1 Cor 4:15; Phil 1:15–18; Phil 2:21; Matt 23:3.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): sicut da homine → sicut de homine.

Topics: Baptism, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.11 (CSEL 52:25–26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.12CSEL 52:26

Petilianus dixit: Quae cum ita sint, fratres, quae potest esse peruersitas, ut qui suis criminibus reus est alium faciat innocentem, dicente domino Iesu Christo; arbor or bona fructus bonos facitarbor mala malos fructus facit. numquid colligunt de spinis uuas? et iterum: omnis homo bonus de thesauro cordis sui profert bona, et omnis homo malus de thesauro cordis sui profert mala?

Petilian said: “Since these things are so, brothers, what perversity can it be that one guilty of his own crimes should make another innocent, when the Lord Jesus Christ says, ‘A good tree bears good fruit, a bad tree bears bad fruit; do they gather grapes from thorns?’ and again, ‘Every good man out of the treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and every evil man out of the treasure of his heart brings forth evil things’?”

Matt 7:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 6:45 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian argues that a guilty minister cannot make another innocent.

  • Matt 7:17, 16; Luke 6:45.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Quae eunt ita sint → Quae cum ita sint.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.12 (CSEL 52:26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.13CSEL 52:26–27

Augustinus respondit: Omnis homo, etiamsi non sit suis criminibus reus, alterum non facit innocentem, quia non est deus. alioquin si ex innocentia baptizantis expectatur ut fiat innocentia baptizati, tanto erit quisque innocentior, quanto innocentiorem a quo baptizetur inuenerit, et tanto ipse minus erit innocens, quanto et ille a quo baptizatur; et si forte contra aliquem tenet odium qui baptizat, hoc et illi qui baptizatur imputabitur. ut quid ergo miser currit ad baptismum? ut ei dimittantur peccata sua an ut imponantur aliena? an sicut nauis mercatoris alia ponat, alia suscipiat? arborem autem bonam et fructum eius bonum et arborem malam et fructum eius malum homines solemus intellegere et opera eorum, sicut consequenter ostenditur in uerbis quae tu quoque commemorasti: bonus homo de bono thesauro cordis sui profert bona, et malus homo de malo thesauro cordis sui profert mala. cum autem dei uerbum praedicat aut dei sacramentum ministrat, non de suo, si malus est, praedicataut ministrat, sed deputabitur in eis de quibus dictum est: quae dicunt facite, quae autem faciunt facere nolite. dicunt enim quae dei sunt, faciunt autem quae sua sunt. nam si ita est, ut dicis, id est fructus baptizantium ipsi baptizati existimantur, magnum malum Africae denuntiatis, si tot Optati pullulauerunt quotquot baptizauit Optatus.

Augustine answered: No man, even if he is not guilty of his own crimes, makes another innocent, because he is not God. Otherwise, if the innocence of the baptized is expected to come from the innocence of the baptizer, each person will be the more innocent the more innocent the man he finds to baptize him, and he himself will be just as much less innocent as the one by whom he is baptized; and if perhaps the one who baptizes holds a hatred against someone, that too will be charged to the one baptized. Why, then, does the wretch run to baptism? To have his own sins forgiven, or to have another's laid on him? Or, like a merchant's ship, to unload some goods and take on others? But we usually understand the good tree and its good fruit, and the bad tree and its bad fruit, as men and their works, as is shown next in the words which you too quoted: “The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and the evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil things.” But when a man preaches God's word or administers God's sacrament, he does not, if he is evil, preach or administer from what is his own; he will be counted among those of whom it was said, “Do what they say, but do not do what they do; for they say and do not do.” They say what is God's, but they do what is their own. For if it is as you say, that the baptized themselves are reckoned the fruit of those who baptize, you are announcing a great evil for Africa, if as many Optatuses have sprouted up as Optatus baptized.

Luke 6:45 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:17 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: No minister makes another innocent; the 'tree and fruit' are men and their works, and a minister administers God's sacrament, not his own.

  • Luke 6:45; Matt 23:3.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.13 (CSEL 52:26–27; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.14CSEL 52:27

Petilianus dixit: Et iterum: qui baptizatur a mortuo non ei prodest lauatio eius, non mortuum corpus exanime nec hominis funus dure porrectum adseruit esse baptistam, sed dei non habentem spiritum qui mortuo comparatur, sicut alio loco discipulo manifestat. euangelio protestante ait discipulus eius: domine, permitte mihi sepelire patrem meum; ait illi Iesus: sequere me, et sine mortuos, mortuos suos sepeliant. pater discipuli non erat bapti:atus, paganum paganis addixit. nisi hoc de infidelibus dixerit, mortuus mortuum non potest sepelire. mortuus igitur quidem non aliqua morte, sed uita sua percussus. nam qui sic uiuit ut reus sit, uita mortua cruciatur. a mortuo igitur baptizari hoc est mortem sumpsisse, non uitam. agendum nobis et dicendum est, quatenus traditor uita mortuus habeatur, mortuus est ille qui baptismo uero nasci non meruit, mortuus est ille similiter qui iusto baptismo genitus mixtus est traditori. ambo uitam baptismi non habent, et qui numquam penitus habuit et qui habuit et amisit. dicit enim dominus Iesus Christus: aduenient in eum septem spiritus nequiores et erit homo ille deterior priore.

Petilian said: “And again, ‘He who is baptized by a dead man, his washing does not profit him.’ He did not declare the baptizer to be a lifeless dead body or a man's corpse stiffly laid out, but one not having the Spirit of God, who is compared to a dead man, as he shows in another place to a disciple. The gospel testifies that his disciple said, ‘Lord, let me bury my father’; Jesus said to him, ‘Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead.’ The disciple's father was not baptized: he consigned a pagan to pagans. Unless he said this of unbelievers, a dead man cannot bury a dead man. So he is dead, not by any death, but struck by his own life; for one who lives so as to be guilty is tormented by a dead life. To be baptized by a dead man, then, is to have taken up death, not life. We must consider and say how far a traitor, though living, is to be held dead. That man is dead who did not deserve to be born by true baptism; that man is likewise dead who, though begotten by a lawful baptism, has mixed himself with a traitor. Both lack the life of baptism, both the one who never had it at all and the one who had it and lost it. For the Lord Jesus Christ says, ‘Seven spirits more wicked will come upon him, and that man will be worse than before.’”

Matt 8:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 11:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 12:45 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian explains 'baptized by a dead man' as baptized by one without God's Spirit, including those who have mixed with traitors.

  • Sir 34:25 (34:30 Vulg.); Matt 8:21–22; Luke 11:26 (Matt 12:45).

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 34:25 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.14 (CSEL 52:27; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.15CSEL 52:27–28

Augustinus respondit: Diligentius quaere quomodo dictum et quomodo intellegendum sit testimonium quod de scriptura posuisti. nam quia mortui solent mystice appellari omnes iniqui, manifestum est; sed Christus, cuius est baptisma uerum, quod propter hominis uitia dicitis falsum, uiuit sedens ad dexteram patris et nec ipsa carnis infirmitate iam morietur et mors ei ultra non dominabitur. cuius baptismo qui baptizatur, non a mortuo baptizatur, et si forte ministri, operarii dolosi, sua quaerentes, non quae Iesu Christi, et euangelium non caste annuntiantes et Christum per contentionem et inuidiam praedicantes, propter iniquitates suas mortui sunt appellandi, sacramentum tamen dei uiui nec in mortuo moritur. mortuus enim erat Simon ille a Philippo in Samaria baptizatus, qui donum dei uolebat pecunia comparare, sed uiuebat ad eius poenam baptisma quod habebat.

Augustine answered: Inquire more carefully how the testimony you cited from Scripture was said and how it is to be understood. That all the wicked are customarily called dead in a mystical sense is clear. But Christ, whose baptism is true, the baptism you call false because of men's vices, lives, sitting at the right hand of the Father; he will no longer die even by the weakness of the flesh, and death will no longer have dominion over him. Whoever is baptized with his baptism is not baptized by a dead man; and even if the ministers are deceitful workers, seeking their own interests, not those of Jesus Christ, proclaiming the gospel impurely and preaching Christ out of contention and envy, and are to be called dead because of their iniquities, still the sacrament of the living God does not die even in a dead man. For that Simon, baptized by Philip in Samaria, who wanted to buy the gift of God with money, was dead; but the baptism he had was alive, to his punishment.

Col 3:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 11:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 8:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 8:20 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Christ, whose baptism it is, lives; the sacrament stays alive even in a dead minister, as in Simon Magus.

  • Col 3:1; Rom 6:9; 2 Cor 11:13; Phil 2:21; Phil 1:15–17; Acts 8:13–20.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.15 (CSEL 52:27–28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.16CSEL 52:28–29

Quam sit autem falsum quod dicis: ambo uitam baptismi non habent, et qui numquam penitus habuit et qui habuit et amisit, hinc licet aduertas, quod, qui baptizati apostatant et per paenitentiam redeunt, non eis redditur baptismus, quem si amitterent redderetur. mortui sane uestri quomodo baptizant secundum sensum uestrum? an mortui non sunt — ut cetera taceam et dicam quod omnibus notum atque cotidianum est — ebriosi, cum de uidua dicat apostolus: quae autem in deliciis agit uiuens mortua est? deinde in illo concilio uestro, quo Maximianum cum suis auctoribus uel suis ministris damnastis, excidit tibi quam eloquenter dixeritis: Aegyptiorum admodum exemplo pereuntium funeribus plena sunt litora, quibus in ipsa morte maior est poena, quod post extortam aquis ultricibus animam nec ipsam inueniunt sepulturam? et amen unus eorum Felicianus utrum reuixerit uos uideritis, secum tamen apud uos intus habet quos foris mortuus baptizauit sicut ergo a uiuo baptizatur qui uiui Christi baptismo induitur, sic a mortuo baptizatur qui mortui Saturni uel cuiuslibet alterius baptismo inuoluitur, ut interim cito dicamus, quomodo uerba quae posuisti sine cuiusquam nostrum angustia possint intellegi. nam sicut accipiuntur a uobis, non uos explicare, sed nos uobiscum implicare contenditis.

How false your statement is, “Both lack the life of baptism, both the one who never had it at all and the one who had it and lost it,” you may see from this: those who apostatize after baptism and return through repentance are not given baptism again; it would be given again if they had lost it. And how, by your reckoning, do your own dead baptize? Or are drunkards not dead (to say nothing of other things and mention only what is known to all and seen daily), since the apostle says of a widow, “She who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives”? Next, have you forgotten how eloquently you said in that council of yours in which you condemned Maximian with his sponsors and ministers: “Quite after the example of the perishing Egyptians, the shores are full of corpses, for whom in death itself the greater punishment is that, after their life has been wrung out by the avenging waters, they do not even find burial”? And yet whether one of them, Felicianus, has come back to life is your affair; but he has with him inside among you those whom he baptized outside while dead. So, just as he is baptized by the living who is clothed with the baptism of the living Christ, so he is baptized by the dead who is wrapped in the baptism of the dead Saturn or of anyone else; to say briefly for the moment how the words you cited can be understood without difficulty for any of us. For as you take them, you are not freeing yourselves but trying to entangle us with you.

1 Tim 5:6 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Baptism is not lost by sin, since penitent apostates are not rebaptized; 'baptized by the dead' fits pagan rites, not the Catholic Church.

  • 1 Tim 5:6. The council is that of Bagai (394). Saturn was the chief god of Roman Africa.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (joined words (OCR)): suntlitora → sunt litora.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.16 (CSEL 52:28–29; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

2.17CSEL 52:29–30

Petilianus dixit: Agendum, inquam, nobis dicendumque est, quatenus perfidus traditor uita mortuus habeatur. io ludas apostolus fuit, cum traderet Christum, idemque honore apostoli perdito spiritaliter mortuus est, suo postea laqueo moriturus, sicut scriptum est: paenitet me, inquit, quia tradidi sanguinem iustum, et abiit et laqueo se suspendit, laqueo traditor periit, laqueum talibus de re liquit, de quo dominus Christus clamauit ad patrem: pater, quos dedisti mihi, omnes seruaui, et ex illis nullus periit nisi filius perditionis, ut impleretur scrip· tura, olim namque Dauid sic in eum sententiam dixerat qui esset Christum perfidis traditurus: episcopatum eius co accipiat alter, sit uxor eius uidua et filii eius orfani. ecce quantus est spiritus prophetarum, ut cuncta futura pro praesentibus uiderit, id ante plurima: saecula nasciturus traditor damnaretur f denique id dicta senten tia compleretur, episcopatum eius apostoli perditi sanctus Mathias accepit, nemo hinc stolidus, nemo perfidus disputet: triumphum Mathias, non iniuriam retulit, qui de domini Christi uictoria spolium retulit proditoris, hoc igitur facto episcopatum tibi quid u indicas, heres nequioris traditoris? Iudas Christum carnaliter tradidit, tu spiritaliter furens euangelium sanctum flammis sacrilegis tradidisti. Iudas legislatorem tradidit perfidis, tu quasi eius reliquias legem dei perdendam hominibus tradidisti. qui si legem diligeres, ut iuuenes Machabaei, pro dei legibus necareris, si nex dici hominum potest quos moriendo pro domino perficit immortales; quorum tinus scilicet fratrum tyranno sacrilego hac fidei uoce respondit: t lt quidem, scelerate et impie, de praesenti uita nos perdis; rex autem mundi, qui regnat in aeternum et regni eius non erit finis, mortuos nos pro suis sanctis legibus in aeternae uitae conuersationem resuscitabit. si hominis mortui testamentum flammis incenderes, nonne falsarius punireris? quid te ergo futurum est, qui sanctissimam legem dei iudicis incendisti? ludam facti uel in morte paenituit: te non modo non paenitet, etiam nequissimus traditor nobis legem seruantibus persecutor et carnifex extitisti.

Petilian said: “We must consider, I say, and declare how far a faithless traitor, though living, is to be held dead. Judas was an apostle when he betrayed Christ; and the same man, having lost the rank of apostle, died spiritually, to die afterwards by his own noose, as it is written: ‘I repent,’ he said, ‘because I have betrayed innocent blood,’ and he went away and hanged himself with a noose. The traitor perished by a noose, and left a noose for such men; of whom the Lord Christ cried to the Father, ‘Father, those whom you gave me I have kept all, and none of them perished except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.’ For long before, David had pronounced this sentence on the one who was to betray Christ to the faithless: ‘Let another take his bishopric; let his wife be a widow and his children orphans.’ See how great the spirit of the prophets is, that it saw all future things as present, so that the traitor was condemned many ages before he was born. Finally, so that the sentence pronounced might be fulfilled, the holy Matthias received the bishopric of the lost apostle. Let no fool, no faithless man, argue from this: Matthias carried off a triumph, not an injury, he who carried off the spoil of the traitor from the victory of the Lord Christ. With this done, then, why do you claim a bishopric for yourself, heir of a more wicked traitor? Judas betrayed Christ in the flesh; you, raging in the spirit, handed the holy gospel over to sacrilegious flames. Judas handed the lawgiver over to the faithless; you handed the law of God, as if its remains, over to men to be destroyed. If you loved the law, you would be put to death for the laws of God like the young Maccabees, if death can be the word for men whom, by dying for the Lord, it makes immortal. One of those brothers answered the sacrilegious tyrant with this voice of faith: ‘You indeed, wicked and ungodly man, destroy us out of this present life; but the King of the world, who reigns forever and of whose kingdom there will be no end, will raise us, who have died for his holy laws, to the life of eternal life.’ If you burned the will of a dead man, would you not be punished as a forger? What will become of you, then, who have burned the most holy law of God the Judge? Judas repented of his deed at least in death; you not only do not repent, but you have even come forth, most wicked traitor, as a persecutor and executioner of us who keep the law.”

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Matt 27:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 109:8 (108:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 109:9 (108:9 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 1:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:33 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Petilian compares Catholic bishops to Judas and calls them heirs of those who burned the Scriptures, contrasting them with the Maccabean martyrs.

  • The digital text is damaged in several places (e.g. “id ante,” “f denique,” “tinus,” “t lt quidem”); translated by sense.
  • Matt 27:4–5; John 17:12; Ps 109:8–9 (108:8–9 LXX); Acts 1:20, 26; 2 Macc 7:9; Luke 1:33.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; repeated word): dicerb-dumque → dicendumque; iuuene# Machabaei → iuuenes Machabaei; etiam etiam nequissimus → etiam nequissimus.

Extrabiblical texts: 2 Macc 7:9 (2 Maccabees [in RC, EO canons]; quotation)

Topics: Heresy, Persecution, Martyrdom, Church office

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.17 (CSEL 52:29–30; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.18CSEL 52:30

Augustinus respondit: Uide quid intersit inter uestras maledicas uoces et nostras ueridicas assertiones. adtende paululum. ecce exaggerasti crimen traditionis et inuidiosissimis uerbis uelut copiosus inuentor Iudae nos perdito comparasti. ad hoc tibi ego cum breuissime respondero: (non feci quod dicis, non tradidi; falsa obicis, numquam id probabis, nonne. omnis iste uerborum ingentium fumus repente dilabitur? an forte probare conaberis? hoc ergo prius faceres et deinde in nos tamquam in conuictos quo uelles cumulo inuectionis insurgeres. ecce una uanitas: audi alteram.

Augustine answered: See the difference between your abusive words and our truthful assertions. Pay attention a little. Look, you have heaped up the crime of handing over the books, and with most invidious words, like a fluent inventor, you have compared us to the lost Judas. When I answer you very briefly, “I did not do what you say; I did not hand over; you make false charges; you will never prove it,” does not all this smoke of grand words vanish at once? Or perhaps you will try to prove it? Then you should have done that first, and afterwards risen against us, as against men convicted, with whatever mass of invective you liked. There is one vanity; hear another.

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine answers the charge of handing over the books with a simple denial and a demand for proof.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.18 (CSEL 52:30; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.19CSEL 52:30–31

Tu ipse, cum de praedicta Iudae damnatione loquereris, dixisti: ecce qua?itus est spiritus prophetarum, ut cuncta futura pro praesentibus uiderit, ut ante plurima saecula nascitarus traditor damnaretur, et non uidisti eadem prophetia stabili et certa et inconcussa ueritate, qua praedictum est quod unus discipulus traditurus esset Christum, praedictum etiam quod totus mundus esset crediturus in Christum. cur attendisti in prophetia hominem qui tradidit Christum et non ibi attendisti orbem pro quo est traditus Christus? quis tradidit Christum? ludas. quibus eum tradidit? Iudaeis. quid ei fecerunt Iudaei? foderunt, inquit, manus meas et pedes, dinumerauerunt omnia ossa mea. ipsi uero considerauerunt et conspexerunt me, diuiserunt sibi uestimenta mea et super uestimentum meum miserunt sortem. quantum sit ergo, quod tanto pretio emptum est, in psalmo ipso paulo post lege: commemorabuntur et conuertentur ad dominum uniuersi fines terrae et adorabunt in conspectu eius uniuersae patriae gentium, quoniam domini est regnum et ipse dominabitur gentium. quis autem potest ad commemoranda cetera de orbe credituro innumerabilia prophetica documenta sufficere? sed tu laudas prophetiam, quia uides in ea hominem qui uendidit Christum, nec in ea uides possessionem quam emit uenditus Christus. ecce altera uanitas: audi tertiam.

When you yourself were speaking of the foretold condemnation of Judas, you said, “See how great the spirit of the prophets is, that it saw all future things as present, so that the traitor was condemned many ages before he was born”; and you did not see that the same prophecy, with steadfast, certain, and unshaken truth, by which it was foretold that one disciple would betray Christ, also foretold that the whole world would believe in Christ. Why did you notice in the prophecy the man who betrayed Christ, and not notice there the world for which Christ was betrayed? Who betrayed Christ? Judas. To whom did he betray him? To the Jews. What did the Jews do to him? “They pierced,” he says, “my hands and feet; they counted all my bones. They looked and stared at me; they divided my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.” Read a little further in the same psalm how great is what was bought at so great a price: “All the ends of the earth will remember and turn to the Lord, and all the families of the nations will worship before him; for the kingdom is the Lord's, and he will rule over the nations.” But who could suffice to recall the other countless prophetic testimonies about the world that was to believe? Yet you praise the prophecy because you see in it the man who sold Christ, and do not see in it the possession that Christ, when sold, bought. There is a second vanity; hear a third.

Ps 22:16 (21:17 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:17 (21:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:18 (21:19 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:27 (21:28 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:28 (21:29 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The prophecy that foretold Judas also foretold the faith of the whole world, which Christ bought with his blood.

  • Ps 22:16–18, 27–28 (21:17–19, 28–29 LXX).

Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.19 (CSEL 52:30–31; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.20CSEL 52:31–33

Inter multa tuae inuectionis uerba dixisti: si hominis mortui testamentum flammis incenderes, nonne falsarius puni:. reris? quid te ergo futurum est, qui sanctissimam legem dei incendisti? haec dicens non attendisti quod te utique mouere deberet, quomodo fieri posset, ut nos testamentum incenderemus et in ea hereditate consisteremus quae illo testamento conscripta est; uos autem mirum est testamentum seruasse et hereditatem perdidisse. nonne in eo testamento scripturn est: postula a me et dabo tibi gentes hereditatem tuam et possessionem tuam terminos terrae? huic hereditati communica et obice mihi de testamento quod uoles. nam quae dementia est ideo testamentum tradere te noluisse flammis, ut contra uerba litiges testatoris? nos autem cum habeamus in manibus gesta ecclesiastica et municipalia, in quibus legamus eos, qui contra Caecilianum alterum episcopum ordinauerunt, potius fuisse diuinorum codicum traditores, non tamen insultamus, non inuehimur in uos nec sanctarum paginarum cineres in uestris manibus plangimus nec Machabaeorum tormenta flagrantia sacrilegio uestri tumoris opponimus dicentes: uestra potius membra quam dei eloquia ignibus traderetis, nolumus enim esse uani, ut alienis commissis, quae aut ignoratis aut improbatis, uobis inanem strepitum concitemus. quod autem uos a totius orbis communione separatos uidemus, quod scelus et maximum et manifestum et omnium uestrum est, si exaggerare uelim, tempus me citius quam uerba deficient. et hoc tu si defendere uelis, ea es obiecturus orbi terrarum, quae si obicienda sunt ammones unde amplius accuseris, si obicienda non sunt non defenderis? ut quid ergo inflaris aduersus me de traditione quae nec mea est nec tua, si manet illud pactum, ut nobis non obiciamus aliena, si autem non manet, tua potius est quam mea? quamquam et manente illo pacto arbitror me iustissime dicere, ut ille iudicetur socius eius qui tradidit Christum, qui cum toto orbe non se tradidit Christo. ergo, inquit apostolus, Abrahae semen estis, secundum promis sionem heredes, et iterum dicit: heredes quidem dei, coheredes autem Christi, idemque semen Abrahae ad omnes gentes pertinere demonstrat ex illo quod Abrahae dictum est: in semine tuo benedicentur omnes gentes. quapropter puto iustum esse quod postulo, ut testamentum dei, quod iam olim apertum est, aliquantum aduertamus et, quem non inuenerimus traditi coheredem, ipsum iudicemus traditoris heredem, ille pertineat ad Christi uenditorem, qui Christum negat orbis emptorem. nempe quando se post resurrectionem discipulis demonstrauit et palpanda membra dubitantibus praebuit, hoc illis ait: quoniam sic scriptum est et sic oportebat Christum pati et resurgere tertia die, et praedicari in nomine eius paenitentiam et remissionem peccatorum per omnes gentes, incipientibus ab Hierusalem. ecce a qua hereditate uos alienatis, ecce cui heredi resistitis! itane uero parceret Christo in terra ambulanti qui contradicit in caelo sedenti? adhuc non intellegitis, quoniam quidquid nobis obicitis sermoni eius obicitis? promittitur christianus orbis et creditur, impletur et contradicitur. cogitate, obsecro, quid pati pro tanta impietate debuistis; et tamen si quid passi estis nescio, non uidi, non feci. tu hodie qui non pateris uim persecutionis meae, redde mihi rationem separationis tuae. sed iterum ac saepe dicturus es, quae si non probas ad neminem pertinent, si autem probas ad me non pertinent.

Among the many words of your invective you said: “If you burned the will of a dead man, would you not be punished as a forger? What will become of you, then, who have burned the most holy law of God?” In saying this you did not consider what surely ought to have moved you: how it could happen that we burned the Testament and yet stand in the inheritance that is written down in that Testament, while you, strangely, kept the Testament and lost the inheritance. Is it not written in that Testament, “Ask of me, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance, and the ends of the earth as your possession”? Join in communion with this inheritance, and charge me with whatever you like about the Testament. For what madness is it that you refused to hand the Testament over to the flames only in order to argue against the testator's words? We, though we have in our hands the ecclesiastical and municipal records in which we read that it was rather those who ordained another bishop against Caecilian who were traitors of the divine books, still do not insult you; we do not inveigh against you, nor lament the ashes of the holy pages in your hands, nor set the burning tortures of the Maccabees against the sacrilege of your pride, saying, “You should rather have handed your own limbs to the fire than God's words.” For we do not want to be vain, stirring up an empty din against you with other men's misdeeds, which you either do not know of or disapprove. But that we see you separated from the communion of the whole world, a crime that is very great, manifest, and belongs to all of you: if I wanted to heap it up, time would fail me sooner than words. And if you want to defend this, you will charge the whole world with things which, if they are to be charged, show further grounds for accusing you, and if they are not to be charged, do not defend you. Why, then, do you swell against me about handing over the books, which is neither mine nor yours if the agreement stands that we do not charge each other with others' deeds, and if it does not stand, is yours rather than mine? Yet even with that agreement standing, I think I say with full justice that he should be judged the associate of the one who betrayed Christ who, with the whole world, has not given himself up to Christ. “Therefore,” says the apostle, “you are Abraham's seed, heirs according to the promise”; and again he says, “heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ”; and he shows that the same seed of Abraham extends to all nations from what was said to Abraham: “In your seed all nations will be blessed.” So I think what I ask is just: that we pay some attention to the Testament of God, which has long been opened, and judge that the one we do not find to be a fellow heir of the betrayed is himself the heir of the betrayer; let him belong to the seller of Christ who denies Christ as the buyer of the world. Indeed, when after the resurrection he showed himself to the disciples and offered his limbs to be touched by the doubters, he said to them, “For thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and rise on the third day, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins be preached in his name through all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.” See from what inheritance you are estranging yourselves, see what heir you are resisting! Would he really have spared Christ as he walked on earth, who contradicts him as he sits in heaven? Do you still not understand that whatever you charge against us, you charge against his word? A Christian world is promised and believed; it is fulfilled and contradicted. Consider, I beg you, what you deserved to suffer for so great an impiety; and yet if you suffered anything, I do not know, I did not see, I did not do it. You, who today do not suffer the force of my persecution, give me an account of your separation. But again and often you will say things which, if you do not prove them, concern no one, and if you prove them, do not concern me.

Ps 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:46 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:47 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Donatists, who claim to have kept the Testament, have lost the inheritance it promises, the Christian world; they are the true heirs of the betrayer.

  • Ps 2:8; Gal 3:29; Rom 8:17; Gen 22:18; Luke 24:39, 46–47. The records are those of the investigation of 320 (Gesta apud Zenophilum) and the proceedings against Felix of Abthugni.
  • “I do not know, I did not see” echoes the Donatist defence of Optatus quoted in 1.26.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (repeated word): incendisti incendisti → incendisti.

Extrabiblical texts: 2 Macc 7:1 (2 Maccabees [in RC, EO canons]; allusion)

Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon, Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.20 (CSEL 52:31–33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.21CSEL 52:33

Petilianus dixit: His ergo criminibus saeptus esse uerus episcopus non potes.

Petilian said: “Fenced about by these crimes, you cannot be a true bishop.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian denies that a Catholic bishop can be a true bishop.

Topics: Church office, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.21 (CSEL 52:33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.22CSEL 52:33

Augustinus respondit: Quibus criminibus? quid docuisti, quid ostendisti? etsi ostendisses crimina nescio quorum, quid hoc ad semen Abrahae in quo benedicuntur omnes gentes?

Augustine answered: By what crimes? What have you proved, what have you shown? Even if you had shown the crimes of some people or other, what does that have to do with the seed of Abraham, in which all nations are blessed?

Gen 22:18 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Crimes of individuals do not touch the worldwide seed of Abraham.

  • Gen 22:18.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.22 (CSEL 52:33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.23CSEL 52:33

Petilianus dixit: Si apostoli persecuti sunt aliquem aut aliquem tradidit Christus?

Petilian said: “Did the apostles persecute anyone, or did Christ hand anyone over?”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian asks whether the apostles or Christ ever persecuted or handed anyone over.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.23 (CSEL 52:33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.24CSEL 52:33–34

Augustinus respondit: Possem quidem dicere ipsum satanan omnibus malis hominibus esse peiorem, cui tamen tradidit apostolus hominem in interitum carnis, ut spiritus saluus sit in die domini Iesu, itemque alios de quibus dicit: quos tradidi satanae, ut discant non blasphemare. et dominus Christus flagellatos expulit de templo improbos mercatores, ubi etiam conexum est testimonium scripturae dicentis: zelus domus tuae comedit me. ecce inuenimus apostolum traditorem, Christum persecutorem. possem ista dicere et te in non paruos aestus mittere, ut non querelas eorum qui patiuntur, sed animum eorum qui faciunt quaerere cogereris. sed hinc noli laborare; non ea dico, sed dico ad semen Abrahae quod est in omnibus gentibus non pertinere, si quid non recte uobis factum est fortasse a palea dominicae segetis, quae nihilominus est in omnibus gentibus. uos ergo reddite rationem separationis uestrae, sed prius attendite quales habeatis quos uobis obici non uultis, et uidete quam inique faciatis, cum aliena facta nobis obicitis, etsi ea quae dicitis probaretis. ita nulla erit ratio separationis uestrae.

Augustine answered: I could indeed say that Satan himself is worse than all evil men, and yet the apostle handed a man over to him for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus; and likewise others, of whom he says, “whom I handed over to Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.” And the Lord Christ scourged the dishonest traders and drove them out of the temple, where the testimony of Scripture is also attached: “Zeal for your house has consumed me.” Look, we find the apostle a hander-over and Christ a persecutor. I could say this and throw you into no small turmoil, so that you would be forced to examine not the complaints of those who suffer but the intention of those who act. But do not trouble yourself about it; I do not say these things. I say that if anything was done wrongly to you, perhaps by the chaff of the Lord's harvest, which is likewise in all nations, it has nothing to do with the seed of Abraham, which is in all nations. So give an account of your separation; but first consider what sort of people you have whom you do not want charged against you, and see how unjustly you act in charging us with others' deeds, even if you proved what you say. So there will be no reason for your separation.

1 Cor 5:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 2:15 (allusion, high confidence) · John 2:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 69:9 (68:10 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Paul handed men over to Satan and Christ drove traders from the temple; but wrongs done by chaff do not touch the worldwide church.

  • 1 Cor 5:5; 1 Tim 1:20; John 2:15–17 (Ps 69:9, 68:10 LXX). “Hander-over” renders traditor, playing on Petilian's charge.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.24 (CSEL 52:33–34; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

2.25CSEL 52:34

Petilianus dixit: At enim aliqui dicent: filii non sumus traditoris. eius est aliquis filius cuius facta sectatur. hi enim certissimi filii sunt idemque parentibus similes, quos non ista caro nec sanguis, sed mores et facta parentibus consimiles genuerunt.

Petilian said: “But some will say, ‘We are not sons of a traitor.’ A man is the son of the one whose deeds he follows. For they are most certainly sons, and like their parents too, whom not this flesh and blood but character and deeds like their parents' have begotten.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian argues that sonship is a matter of imitating deeds.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.25 (CSEL 52:34; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).