Against Praxeas 11–17
Latin text: CSEL 47 (Latin text: Emil Kroymann (CSEL 47), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885).
Chapter 11
11CSEL 47:242–245
Probare autem tam aperte debebis ex scripturis, quam nos probamus, illum sibi filium fecisse sermonem suum. si enim filium nominat, filius autem non erit alius quam qui ex ipso prodiit, sermo autem prodiit ex ipso, hic erit filius, non ipse, de quo prodiit. non enim ipse prodiit ex semetipso. porro » semetipso facis et prodisse. quod deus etsi potuit fecisse, non tamen fecit. aut exhibe probationem, quam expostulo meae similem, id est sic scripturas eundem filium et patrem ostendere, quemadmodum apud nos distincte pater et filius demonstrantur; distincte, inquam, non diuise. sicut ego profero dictum a deo: eructuauit cor meum sermonem optimum, aeque tu contra opponas alicubi dixisse deum: eructuauit me cor meum sermonem optimum, ut ipse sit, qui et eructuauit et quod eructuauit, et ipse, qui protulerit et qui prolatus sit, si ipse est et sermo et deus. ecce ego propono patrem filio dixisse: filius meus es tu, ego hodie generaui te. si uelis, ut credam ipsum esse patrem et filium, ostende sic pronuntiatum alibi: dominus dixit ad se: filius meus sum ego, ego hodie generaui me; proinde et: ante luciferum generaui me; et: dominus condidi me initium uiarum in opera mea, ante omnes autem colles generaui me), et si qua alia in hunc modum sunt. quem autem uerebatur deus dominus uniuersitatis ita pronuntiare, si ita res erat? an uerebatur, ne non crederetur, si simpliciter se et patrem et filium pronuntiasset? unum tamen ueritus est: mentiri, — ueritus autem semetipsum et suam ueritatem — et ideo ueracem deum credens scio illum non aliter quam disposuit pronuntiasse nec aliter disposuisse quam pronuntiauit. tu porro eum mendacem efficias et fallacem et deceptorem fidei huius, si cum ipse esset sibi filius, alii dabat filii personam, quando scripturae omnes et demonstrationem et distinctionem trinitatis ostendant, a quibus et praescriptio nostra deducitur non posse unum atque eundem uideri qui loquitur et de quo loquitur et ad quem loquitur, quia neque peruersitas neque fallacia deo congruat, ut, cum ipse esset, ad quem loquebatur, ad alium potius et non ad semetipsum loqueretur. accipe igitur et alias uoces patris de filio per Esaiam: ecce filius meus, quem elegi, dilectus meus, in quem bene sensi; ponam spiritum meum super ipsum, et iudicium nationibus adnuntiabit. accipe et ad ipsum: magnum tibi est, ut uoceris filius meus ad statuendas tribus Iacob et ad conuertendam dispersionem Israhelis; posui te in lucem nationum, ut sis salus in extremum terrae. accipe nunc et filii uoces de patre: spiritus domini super me, quapropter unxit me ad euangelizandum hominibus. item ad patrem in psalmo: dee domine, ne dereliqueris me, donec adnuntiem brachium tuum natiuitati uniuersae uenturae; item in alio: domine, quid multiplicati sunt qui comprimunt me? sed et omnes paene psalmi, (qui) Christi personam sustinent, filium ad patrem [id est Christum ad deum] uerba facientem repraesentant. animaduerte etiam spiritum loquentem ex tertia persona de patre et filio: dixit dominus domino meo: sede ad dexteram meam, donec ponam inimicos tuos scabellum pedum tuorum, item per Esaiam: haec dicit dominus domino meo Christo, item per eundem ad patrem de filio: domine, quis credidit auditui nostro, et brachium domini cui reuelatum est? ad nuntiauimus de illo: sicut puerulus. sicut radix in terra sitienti, et non erat forma eius nec gloria. haec pauca de multis. nec enim adfectamus uniuersas scripturas euoluere, cum et in singulis capitulis(sunt)plenam maiestatem et auctoritatem contestantes. maiorem congressum in retractatibus habemus. his itaque paucis, tamen manifeste, distinctio trinitatis exponitur: est enim ipse, qui pronuntiat, spiritus, et pater, ad quem pronuntiat, et filius, de quo pronuntiat. sic et cetera, quae nunc ad patrem de filio uel ad filium, nunc ad filium de patre uel ad patrem [nunc] a spiritu pronuntiantur, unamquamque personam in sua proprietate constituunt.
You will have to prove from the Scriptures as plainly as we prove it that he made his own Word into his Son. For if he calls him Son, and the Son will be none other than the one who came forth from him, and the Word came forth from him, this will be the Son, not he himself from whom he came forth. For he himself did not come forth from himself. But you make him also come forth from himself, which God, even if he could have done it, still did not do. Or produce a proof like mine, which I demand: that is, show that the Scriptures show the same one as Son and Father, just as with us the Father and the Son are shown distinctly; distinctly, I say, not dividedly. Just as I bring forward the saying of God, “My heart has poured forth an excellent Word,” so you in reply must produce somewhere that God said, “My heart has poured forth myself as an excellent Word,” so that he is himself both the one who poured forth and what he poured forth, himself both the one who put forth and the one who was put forth, if he is himself both Word and God. See, I put forward that the Father said to the Son, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you.” If you want me to believe that he himself is Father and Son, show me it declared elsewhere thus: “The Lord said to himself, ‘I am my Son; today I have begotten myself’”; and likewise, “Before the morning star I begot myself”; and, “I the Lord established myself as the beginning of my ways for my works; and before all the hills I begot myself”; and whatever other sayings there are of this kind. Whom was God, the Lord of the universe, afraid of, that he did not declare it so, if that was how things were? Or was he afraid of not being believed if he had simply declared himself both Father and Son? One thing, however, he did fear: to lie; he feared himself and his own truth. And so, believing God to be truthful, I know that he declared things not otherwise than he had arranged them, and did not arrange them otherwise than he declared them. You, on the other hand, would make him a liar and a cheat and a deceiver of this faith, if, being himself his own Son, he gave the person of the Son to another; since all the Scriptures show both the demonstration and the distinction of the Trinity, from which our prescription too is derived: that he who speaks, he of whom he speaks, and he to whom he speaks cannot be seen as one and the same, since neither perversity nor deceit befits God, that, being himself the one to whom he spoke, he should speak rather to another and not to himself. Hear, then, other sayings too of the Father about the Son, through Isaiah: “Behold my Son, whom I have chosen, my beloved, in whom I am well pleased; I will put my Spirit upon him, and he will announce judgment to the nations.” Hear also what he says to him: “It is a great thing for you to be called my Son, to establish the tribes of Jacob and to turn back the dispersion of Israel; I have set you as a light of the nations, that you may be salvation to the end of the earth.” Hear now also the sayings of the Son about the Father: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach the gospel to men.” Likewise to the Father in the psalm: “O God, Lord, do not forsake me until I declare your arm to every generation to come”; likewise in another: “Lord, why are they multiplied who press upon me?” And indeed almost all the psalms that bear the person of Christ represent the Son speaking to the Father. Notice too the Spirit speaking, as a third person, of the Father and the Son: “The Lord said to my Lord, ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies the footstool of your feet’”; likewise through Isaiah: “Thus says the Lord to my Lord Christ”; likewise through the same prophet, to the Father about the Son: “Lord, who has believed our report, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? We announced concerning him: like a little child, like a root in thirsty ground, and he had no form or glory.” These are a few out of many. For we do not aim to unroll all the Scriptures, since even in single passages there are testimonies to the full majesty and authority. We have a greater contest in the discussions. In these few passages, then, yet plainly, the distinction of the Trinity is set out: for there is the one who declares, the Spirit; and the Father, to whom he declares; and the Son, of whom he declares. So too the other sayings spoken by the Spirit, now to the Father about the Son or to the Son, now to the Son about the Father or to the Father, establish each person in its own individuality.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:3 (109:3 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Prov 8:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 42:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 49:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 61:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 71:18 (70:18 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 3:1 (3:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Praxeas must show from Scripture that God is his own Son; instead Scripture everywhere distinguishes the one who speaks, the one spoken to, and the one spoken of, showing the three persons.
- The quotations are Ps 45:1 (44:2 Vulg.), Ps 2:7, Ps 110:3 (109:3 Vulg.), Prov 8:22, 25, Isa 42:1, Isa 49:6, Isa 61:1 (Luke 4:18), Ps 71:18 (70:18 Vulg.), Ps 3:1 (3:2 Vulg.), Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.), Isa 45:1 (read as “to my Lord Christ,” from Greek kyriō for Kyrō, “Cyrus”), and Isa 53:1-2. The phrase “porro » semetipso” is garbled in the digital text; it is rendered by the sense. The editor deletes “id est Christum ad deum” (“that is, Christ to God”) and “nunc”; they are omitted. Persona is rendered “person”; proprietas “individuality.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (garbled punctuation in the digital text; split word in the digital text; stray punctuation in the digital text): sermonem optimum\\ ut → sermonem optimum, ut; dilectus me us. → dilectus meus,; si. cum ipse → si cum ipse.
Topics: Trinity, Christology, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 11 (CSEL 47:242–245; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/11).
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/11
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Kroymann, CSEL 47 (1906); made independently of existing English translations.
Chapter 12
12CSEL 47:245–246
Si te adhuc numerus scandalizat trinitatis quasi non conexae in unitate simplici, interrogo: quomodo unicus et singularis pluraliter loquitur: faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram, cum debuerit dixisse: faciam hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem meam, utpote unicus et singularis? sed et in sequentibus: ecce Adam factus est tamquam unus ex nobis fallit aut ludit, ut, cum unus et solus et singularis esset, numerose loqueretur. aut numquid angelis loquebatur, ut Iudaei interpretantur. quia nec ipsi filium agnoscunt? an quia ipse erat pater filius spiritus, ideo pluralem se praestans pluraliter sibi loquebatur? immo, quia iam adhaerebat illi [filius] secunda persona, sermo ipsius, et tertia, spiritus in sermone, ideo pluraliter pronuntiauit: faciamus et nostram et nobis. cum quibus enim faciebat hominem et quibus faciebat similem, filio quidem, qui erat induiturus hominem, spiritu uero, qui erat sanctificaturus hominem, quasi cum ministris et arbitris ex unitate trinitatis loquebatur. denique sequens scriptura distinguit inter personas: (et fecit) deus hominem, ad imaginem dei fecit illum. cur non (suam,) si unus qui faciebat, et non erat, ad cuius faciebat? erat autem, ad cuius imaginem faciebat, ad filii scilicet, qui, homo futurus certior et uerior, imaginem suam fecerat dici hominem, qui tunc de limo formari habebat, imago ueri et similitudo. sed et in antecedentibus operibus mundi quomodo scriptum est? primo quidem, nondum filio apparente: et dixit deus: fiat lux, et facta est, ipse scilicet sermo, uera lux, quae inluminat hominem uenientem in hunc mundum, et per illum mundialis quoque lux. exinde autem, in sermone Christo adsistente et administrante, deus uoluit fieri, et deus fecit: et dixit deus: fiat firmamentum, et fecit deus firmamentum: et dixit deus: fiant luminaria, et fecit deus luminare maius et minus. sed et cetera utique idem fecit, qui et priora, id est sermo dei, per quem omnia facta sunt et sine quo factum est nihil. qui si (et) ipse deus est secundum Iohannem: deus erat sermo, habes duos, alium dicentem, ut fiat, alium facientem. alium autem quomodo accipere debeas, iam professus sum, personae, non substantiae nomine, ad distinctionem, non ad diuisionem. ceterum, (etsi) ubique teneo unam substantiam in tribus cohaerentibus, tamen alium dicam oportet ex necessitate sensus eum, qui iubet, et eum. qui facit. nam nec iuberet, si ipse faceret dum iuberet, fieri per eum, (cui) tum iubebat, aut sibi iussurus, si unus esset, aut sine iussu facturus, quia non expectasset, ut sibi iuberet.
If the number of the Trinity still scandalizes you, as though it were not joined in simple unity, I ask: how does one who is one and single speak in the plural, “Let us make man in our image and likeness,” when he ought to have said, “Let me make man in my image and likeness,” as being one and single? And in what follows too, “Behold, Adam has become like one of us,” he deceives or jests, if, being one and alone and single, he spoke in the plural. Or was he speaking to the angels, as the Jews interpret it, since they too do not acknowledge the Son? Or was it because he himself was Father, Son, and Spirit that he presented himself as plural and spoke to himself in the plural? No; it was because there was already attached to him a second person, his Word, and a third, the Spirit in the Word, that he spoke in the plural, “let us make,” and “our,” and “us.” For with whom was he making man, and to whom was he making him like? With the Son, who was to put on man, and the Spirit, who was to sanctify man, he was speaking, as with ministers and witnesses, from the unity of the Trinity. In fact the Scripture that follows distinguishes between the persons: “And God made man; in the image of God he made him.” Why not “his own,” if the one who was making was one, and there was no one in whose image he was making him? But there was one in whose image he was making him, namely the Son's, who, being to become man more surely and truly, had caused the man who was then to be formed from clay to be called his image, the image and likeness of the true man. But in the earlier works of the world too, how is it written? First, indeed, when the Son had not yet appeared: “And God said, ‘Let there be light,’ and there was light”: the Word himself, that is, the true light, which enlightens man coming into this world, and through him the light of the world too. From then on, however, with Christ the Word assisting and ministering, God willed a thing to be made, and God made it: “And God said, ‘Let there be a firmament,’ and God made the firmament”; “and God said, ‘Let there be lights,’ and God made the greater and the lesser light.” And the rest, surely, the same one made who made the former, that is, the Word of God, “through whom all things were made and without whom nothing was made.” And if he too is God, according to John, “The Word was God,” you have two: one who says that it should be made, another who makes it. And how you should understand “another” I have already declared: in the sense of person, not of substance; for distinction, not for division. For though I everywhere hold one substance in three cohering, yet I must, by the necessity of the sense, call him who commands and him who makes different. For he would not command if he were himself making it while he commanded it to be made through the one he was then commanding; or else, if he were one, he would be about to command himself, or to make it without a command, since he would not have waited to command himself.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 1:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God's plural “Let us make man” and “one of us” show that the Word and the Spirit were with him; in creation one person commands and another makes, one substance in three persons, distinct but not divided.
- The quotations are Gen 1:26, 3:22, 1:27, 1:3, John 1:9, Gen 1:6-7, 1:14-16, John 1:3, and 1:1. The digital text's stray “1” after “nobis” and “utpute” are corrected. The editor deletes “filius” before “secunda persona”; it is omitted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (letter misread in the digital text; stray digit in the digital text): utpute → utpote; nobis.1 cum → nobis. cum.
Topics: Trinity, Christology, Creation
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 12 (CSEL 47:245–246; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/12).
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/12
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Kroymann, CSEL 47 (1906); made independently of existing English translations.
Chapter 13
13CSEL 47:246–250
Ergo, inquis, si deus dixit et deus fecit, si alius deus dixit et alius fecit, duo dii praedicantur. si tam durus es, puta interim tu; et ut adhuc amplius hoc putes, accipe et in psalmo duos deos dictos: thronus tuus, deus, in aeuum; ** uirga regni tui; dilexisti iustitiam et odisti iniquitatem: propterea unxit te, deus, deus tuus. si ad deum loquitur, et unctum deum a deo, adfirmat et hic duos deos. [pro uirga regni tui] inde et Esaias ad personam Christi: et Se bo in, inquit, uiri elati, ad te transibunt et post te sequentur uincti manibus et ad te adorabunt, quia in te deus est; tu enim es deus noster, et nesciebamus, deus Israhelis. et hic enim dicendo deus in te et (tu deus duos proponit: qui erat in Christo et [spiritum] ipsum. plus est, quod (et) in euangelio totidem inuenies: in principio erat sermo, et sermo erat apud deum, et deus erat sermo: unus, qui erat, et alius, penes quem erat. sed et nomen domini in duobus lego: dixit dominus domino meo: sede ad dexteram meam. et Esaias haec dicit: domine, quis credidit auditui nostro, et brachium domini cui reuelatum est? brachium enim tuum, non domini dixisset, si non dominum patrem et dominum filium intellegi uellet. etiam adhuc antiquior Genesis: et pluit dominus super Sodomam et Gomorram sulphur et ignem de caelo a domino. haec aut nega scripta, aut quis es, ut non putes accipienda quemadmodum scripta sunt, maxime quae non in allegoriis et parabolis, sed in definitionibus certis et simplicibus habent sensum? quodsi ex illis ea, qui tunc dominum non sustinebant dei se filium ostendentem, ne eum deum crederent, recordare tu cum illis scriptum esse: ego dixi: uos dii estis et filii altissimi, et: stetit deus in ecclesia deorum, ut, si homines, per fidem filios dei factos, deos scriptura pronuntiare non timuit, scias illam multo magis uero et unico dei filio id dei nomen iure contulisse, ergo, inquis, prouocabo te, ut hodie quoque ex auctoritate istarum scripturarum constanter duos deos et duos dominos praedices? absit. nos enim, qui et tempora et causas scripturarum per dei gratiam inspicimus, maxime paracleti, non hominum discipuli, duos quidem definimus, patrem et filium, et iam tres cum spiritu sancto, — secundum rationem oikonomiae, quae facit numerum, ne, ut uestra peruersitas infert, pater ipse credatur natus et passus, quod non licet credi, quoniam non ita traditum est — duos tamen deos et duos dominos numquam ex ore nostro proferimus, non quasi non et pater deus et filius deus et spiritus deus et dominus unusquisque, sed quoniam (ideo) retro et duo dii et duo domini praedicabantur, ut, ubi uenisset Christus, et deus agnosceretur et dominus uocaretur, quia filius dei et domini. si enim una persona et dei et domini in scripturis inueniretur, merito Christus non esset admissus ad nomen dei et ad domini, — nemo enim alius praeter unus deus et dominus praedicabatur — et futurum erat, ut ipse pater descendisse uideretur, quia unus deus et unus dominus legebatur, et tota oikonomia eius obumbraretur, quae in materiam fidei prospecta atque dispensata est. at ubi uenit Christus et cognitus est a nobis, quod ipse, qui numerum retro fecerat, factus secundus a patre et cum spiritu tertius, etiam pater, per ipsum plenius manifestatus, redactum est iam nomen dei et domini in unionem, ut, quia nationes a multitudine idolorum transirent ad unicum deum, et differentia constitueretur inter cultores unius et plurimae diuinitatis. nam et lucere in mundo Christianos oportebat ut filios lucis, lumen mundi unum et deum et dominum colentes et nominantes. ceterum si ex conscientia, qua scimus dei nomen et domini et patri et filio et spiritui conuenire, deos et dominos nominaremus, extinxissemus faces nostras, etiam ad martyria timidiores, quibus euadendi quaque pateret occasio, iurantibus statim per deos et dominos, ut quidam haeretici, quorum dei plures. itaque deos omnino non dicam nec dominos, sed apostolum sequar, ut, si pariter nominandi fuerint pater et filius. patrem deum appellem et Iesum Christum dominum nominem. solum autem Christum potero deum dicere; sicut idem apostolus: ex quibus Christus, qui est, inquit, deus super omnia, benedictus in aeuum omne. nam et radium solis seorsum solem uocabo; solem autem nominans, cuius est radius, non statim et radium solem appellabo. nam nec soles duos faciam. tamen et solem et radium eius tam duas res et duas species unius et indiuisae substantiae numerabo, quam deum et sermonem eius, quam patrem et filium.
“So,” you say, “if God spoke and God made, if one God spoke and another made, two gods are preached.” If you are so obstinate, think so for the moment; and that you may think so still more, hear two gods named in the psalm as well: “Your throne, O God, is forever; … the scepter of your kingdom; you have loved justice and hated iniquity; therefore God, your God, has anointed you.” If he speaks to God, and affirms that God is anointed by God, here too he affirms two gods. So too Isaiah, to the person of Christ: “The Sabaeans, men of stature, will pass over to you and follow after you, bound in their hands, and will worship you, because God is in you; for you are our God, and we did not know it, the God of Israel.” For here too, by saying “God is in you” and “you are God,” he sets forth two: the one who was in Christ, and Christ himself. More still, you will find as many in the Gospel: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”: one who was, and another with whom he was. And I read the name of Lord too of two: “The Lord said to my Lord, ‘Sit at my right hand.’” And Isaiah says this: “Lord, who has believed our report, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” For he would have said “your arm,” not “the arm of the Lord,” if he had not wanted the Lord the Father and the Lord the Son to be understood. Even more ancient, Genesis: “And the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from heaven from the Lord.” Either deny that these things are written, or who are you, that you should think they are not to be taken as they are written, especially those that have their sense not in allegories and parables but in definite and simple statements? But if you side with those who at that time did not bear with the Lord when he showed himself to be the Son of God, so that they might not believe him to be God, remember with them that it is written, “I said, ‘You are gods and sons of the Most High,’” and, “God stood in the assembly of gods”; so that, if Scripture did not fear to call gods men made sons of God through faith, you may know that it has much more rightly conferred the name of God on the true and only Son of God. “So,” you say, “I will challenge you to preach today too, consistently, on the authority of these Scriptures, two gods and two lords.” God forbid. For we, who by the grace of God examine both the times and the occasions of the Scriptures, above all as disciples of the Paraclete, not of men, do indeed define two, the Father and the Son, and now three with the Holy Spirit, according to the principle of the economy, which makes number (lest, as your perversity alleges, the Father himself should be believed to have been born and to have suffered, which it is not permitted to believe, since it has not been so handed down); yet we never utter from our mouth “two gods” and “two lords”: not as if the Father were not God, and the Son God, and the Spirit God, and each one Lord; but because in former times two gods and two lords were preached for this reason, that when Christ came he might both be recognized as God and called Lord, since he is the Son of God and Lord. For if a single person of God and Lord were found in the Scriptures, Christ would rightly not have been admitted to the name of God and of Lord (for no other was preached besides one God and Lord), and it would have come about that the Father himself seemed to have come down, since one God and one Lord was read, and his whole economy would have been obscured, which was foreseen and dispensed as the substance of faith. But when Christ came and was recognized by us as the very one who had formerly made the number, having become second to the Father and, with the Spirit, third, and when the Father too was more fully made known through him, the name of God and Lord was brought back into unity, so that, since the nations were passing over from the multitude of idols to the one only God, a difference might also be established between the worshipers of one Godhead and of many. For Christians had to shine in the world as sons of light, worshiping and naming one who is both God and Lord, the light of the world. Otherwise, if, from the knowledge by which we know that the name of God and Lord belongs to the Father and the Son and the Spirit, we called them gods and lords, we would have put out our torches, and become more timid even toward martyrdom, having every opportunity of escape open to us, by swearing at once by gods and lords, as some heretics do, whose gods are many. So I will not speak of gods at all, nor of lords, but I will follow the apostle: if the Father and the Son are to be named together, I will call the Father God and name Jesus Christ Lord. But Christ, when named by himself, I shall be able to call God, as the same apostle says: “of whom is Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever.” For I will call a ray of the sun, taken by itself, the sun; but when I name the sun whose ray it is, I will not at once call the ray the sun too. For I will not make two suns. Yet I will count the sun and its ray as two things and two aspects of one undivided substance, just as I count God and his Word, the Father and the Son.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Ps 45:6 (44:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 45:7 (44:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 19:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:33 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 82:6 (81:6 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 82:1 (81:1 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 8:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 12:36 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 5:14 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Scripture calls both Father and Son “God” and “Lord,” yet Christians do not speak of two gods: the one name was used in the Old Testament so that Christ might be recognized as God, and it is now kept as one, as sun and ray are one substance.
- The quotations are Ps 45:6-7 (44:7-8 Vulg.), Isa 45:14-15 (in the Septuagint's form), John 1:1, Ps 110:1 (109:1 Vulg.), Isa 53:1, Gen 19:24, John 10:33-36, Ps 82:6 and 82:1 (81:6, 81:1 Vulg.), and Rom 9:5; the allusions include 1 Cor 8:6, John 12:36, and Matt 5:14. The name in Isa 45:14 appears garbled in the digital text (“Se bo in”) and is rendered “Sabaeans.” The asterisks in the digital text mark a gap in the quotation of Ps 45:6. The editor deletes “pro uirga regni tui” and “spiritum”; they are omitted. “Disciples of the Paraclete” reflects the New Prophecy. A garbled question mark in the digital text is restored.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (garbled punctuation in the digital text): praedices\\ absit → praedices? absit.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 13 (CSEL 47:246–250; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/13).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Kroymann, CSEL 47 (1906); made independently of existing English translations.
Chapter 14
14CSEL 47:250–253
Adhuc et illa nobis regula adsistit duos uindicantibus patrem et filium, quae inuisibilem deum determinauit. cum enim Moyses in Aegypto desiderasset domini conspectum dicens: si ergo inueni gratiam coram te, manifesta mihi te, ut cognoscenter uideam te:non potes uidere, inquit, faciem meam; non enim uidebit homo faciem meam et uiuet, id est: morietur qui uiderit. inuenimus autem et a multis deum uisum et neminem tamen eorum, qui eum uiderant, mortuum, uisum quidem [deum] secundum hominum capacitates, non secundum plenitudinem diuinitatis. nam (et) patriarchae deum uidisse referuntur, ut Abraham et Iacob, et prophetae, ut Esaias, ut Ezechiel, et tamen mortui non sunt. igitur aut mori debuerant, si eum uiderant, — deum enim nemo uidebit et uiuet — aut si deum uiderunt et mortui non sunt, scriptura mentitur deum dixisse: faciem meam homo si uiderit, non uiuet. aut (si) scriptura (non) mentitur, neque cum inuisum neque cum uisum deum profert, iam ergo alius erit qui uidebatur, quia non potest idem inuisibilis definiri, qui uidebatur, et consequens erit, ut inuisibilem patrem intellegamus pro plenitudine maiestatis, uisibilem uero filium agnoscamus pro modulo deriuationis, sicut nec solem nobis contemplari licet, quantum ad ipsam substantiae summam, quae est in caelis, radium autem eius toleramus oculis pro temperatura portionis, quae in terram inde porrigitur. hic ex diuerso uolet aliquis etiam filium inuisibilem contendere, ut sermonem, ut spiritum, et dum unam condicionem patris et filii uindicat, unum potius atque eundem confirmare patrem et filium. sed diximus scripturam differentiae patrocinari per uisibilis et inuisibilis distinctionem. iam et illud adicient ad argumentationem, quod, si filius tunc ad Moysen loquebatur, ipse faciem suam nemini uisibilem pronuntiarit, quia scilicet ipse inuisibilis pater fuerit in filii nomine. ac per hoc sic eundem uolunt accipi et uisibilem et inuisibilem, quomodo eundem (et) patrem et filium, quoniam et paulo supra, antequam faciem Moysi neget, scriptum sit dominum ad Moysen locutum coram, uelut si quis loquatur ad amicum suum, non minus quam et Iacob: ego uidi, inquit, deum facie ad faciem. ergo uisibilis et inuisibilis idem; et quia idem utrumque, ideo et ipse pater inuisibilis, qua et filius, uisibilis. quasi uero expositio scripturae, quae fit a nobis, filio competat (a) patre seposito in sua uisibilitate. dicimus enim et filium suo nomine eatenus inuisibilem, qua sermo et spiritus dei, ex substantiae condicione, [iam nunc et quia deus et sermo et spiritus dei,] uisibilem autem fuisse ante carnem eo modo, quo dicit ad Aaron et Mariam: et si fuerit prophetes in uobis, in uisione cognoscar illi et in somnio loquar illi, non quomodo Moysi: os ad os loquar illi, in specie, id est in ueritate, et non in aenigmate, id est non in imagine; sicut et apostolus: nunc uidemus tamquam per speculum in aenigmate, tunc autem facie ad faciem. igitur cum Moysi seruat conspectum suum et colloquium facie ad faciem in futurum, — nam hoc postea adimpletum est in montis secessu, sicut legimus in euangelio uisum cum illo Moysen colloquentem — apparet retro semper in speculo et aenigmate et uisione et somnio deum, id est filium dei, uisum, tam prophetis et patriarchis quam et ipsi adhuc Moysi. et ipse quidem dominus, si forte coram ad faciem loquebatur, non tamen, ut et homo faciem eius uideret, nisi forte in speculo, in aenigmate. denique si sic Moysi locutus esset dominus, ut et Moyses faciem eius cominus sciret, quomodo statim atque ibidem desiderat faciem eius uidere, quam, quia uiderat, non desideraret? quomodo aeque et dominus negat uideri faciem suam posse, quam ostenderat, si tamen ostenderat? aut quae est facies dei, cuius conspectus negatur? si erat quae uisa est, — uidi, inquit Iacob, deum facie ad faciem, et salua facta est anima mea — alia debet esse facies, quae, si uideatur, occidit. aut numquid filius quidem uidebatur, — etsi facie, sed ipsum hoc in uisione et somnio et speculo et aenigmate, quia sermo et spiritus nisi imaginaria forma uideri non potest — faciem autem suam dicit inuisibilem patrem? quia enim pater? non facies erit filii nomine auctoritatis, quam genitus a patre consequitur? non enim et de aliqua maiore persona congruit dicere: (facies mea est ille homo, et: faciem mihi praestat? pater, inquit, maior me est. ergo facies erit filii pater. nam et scriptura quid dicit? spiritus eius persona Christus dominus. ergo si Christus persona paterni spiritus est, merito cuius spiritus persona erat, id est patris, eius faciem suam, ex unitate scilicet, pronuntiauit. mira res plane, an facies filii pater accipi possit, qui est caput eius. caput enim Christi deus.
There is also another rule that supports us in claiming that the Father and the Son are two: the one that has laid down that God is invisible. For when Moses in Egypt desired to see the Lord, saying, “If then I have found favor before you, show yourself to me, that I may see you and know you,” he said, “You cannot see my face; for no man shall see my face and live”; that is, he who sees it will die. Yet we find that God was seen by many, and yet none of those who had seen him died; seen, that is, according to men's capacities, not according to the fullness of the Godhead. For the patriarchs are said to have seen God, like Abraham and Jacob, and the prophets, like Isaiah and Ezekiel, and yet they did not die. Either, then, they ought to have died if they had seen him (for “no one shall see God and live”), or, if they saw God and did not die, Scripture lies in saying that God said, “If a man sees my face, he shall not live.” Or, if Scripture does not lie, either when it presents God as unseen or when it presents him as seen, then the one who was seen will be another, since the same one cannot be defined as invisible who was seen; and it will follow that we understand the Father to be invisible because of the fullness of his majesty, and recognize the Son as visible because of the measure of his derivation; just as we are not permitted to gaze on the sun as regards the very sum of its substance, which is in the heavens, but we bear its ray with our eyes because of the tempered strength of the portion that reaches from there to the earth. Here someone on the other side will want to contend that the Son too is invisible, as Word and as Spirit, and, while claiming one condition for Father and Son, rather to confirm that Father and Son are one and the same. But we have said that Scripture supports the difference by distinguishing visible and invisible. They will add this too to the argument: that if it was the Son who was then speaking to Moses, he himself declared that his face was visible to no one, because he himself, of course, was the invisible Father under the name of the Son. And by this they want the same one to be taken as both visible and invisible, in the same way as the same one is both Father and Son; since a little before, too, before he denies his face to Moses, it is written that the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, “as a man speaks to his friend”; no less than Jacob too: “I have seen God,” he says, “face to face.” So the visible and the invisible are the same; and because the same one is both, the Father himself too is invisible, inasmuch as he is also the Son, visible. As if our exposition of Scripture applied to the Son in his visibility with the Father set aside! For we say that the Son too, in his own name, is invisible so far as he is the Word and Spirit of God, by the condition of his substance; but that he was visible before the flesh in the way in which he says to Aaron and Miriam: “If there is a prophet among you, I will make myself known to him in a vision and speak to him in a dream; not as with Moses: mouth to mouth will I speak to him, in appearance,” that is, in reality, “and not in a riddle,” that is, not in an image; as the apostle too says: “Now we see as through a mirror, in a riddle, but then face to face.” So, since he reserves for Moses the sight of himself and conversation face to face for the future (for this was afterwards fulfilled in the seclusion of the mountain, when, as we read in the Gospel, Moses was seen talking with him), it is clear that in former times God, that is, the Son of God, was always seen in a mirror and a riddle and a vision and a dream, by the prophets and patriarchs as well as by Moses himself up to then. And the Lord himself, if he did perhaps speak face to face, yet not so that a man should see his face, except perhaps in a mirror, in a riddle. In fact, if the Lord had spoken to Moses in such a way that Moses knew his face at close quarters, how is it that at once and on the spot he desires to see his face, which he would not desire if he had seen it? How likewise does the Lord deny that his face can be seen, which he had shown, if indeed he had shown it? Or what is the face of God, the sight of which is denied? If there was one that was seen (“I saw God,” says Jacob, “face to face, and my life was preserved”), there must be another face which kills if it is seen. Or was the Son indeed seen (even if face to face, yet this very thing in a vision, a dream, a mirror, and a riddle, since the Word and Spirit cannot be seen except in an imaginary form), while he calls the invisible Father his face? For who is the Father? Will he not be the face of the Son, by reason of the authority which he obtains as begotten of the Father? For is it not fitting to say of some greater person, “That man is my face,” and, “He gives me countenance”? “The Father,” he says, “is greater than I.” So the Father will be the face of the Son. For what does Scripture say? “The Spirit of his person is Christ the Lord.” So if Christ is the person of the Father's Spirit, he rightly declared the one whose Spirit's person he was, that is, the Father, to be his face, by reason of their unity. A marvel indeed, whether the Father can be taken as the face of the Son, he who is his head! For “the head of Christ is God.”
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Exod 33:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 32:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 6:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ezek 1:28 (allusion, medium confidence) · Num 12:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 12:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:3 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Lam 4:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:3 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God said no one could see his face and live, yet patriarchs and prophets saw God and lived: the invisible one is the Father, while the Son was seen, in visions and figures, before his incarnation.
- The quotations are Exod 33:13, 20, 11, Gen 32:30, Num 12:6-8, 1 Cor 13:12, John 14:28, Lam 4:20 (in the Septuagint's form: “the breath of our face, Christ the Lord,” here read with persona), and 1 Cor 11:3; the allusions are Matt 17:3 and the visions of Isa 6 and Ezek 1. Persona is here rendered “person,” though in this argument it also carries its root sense of “face” or “mask.” The editor deletes “deum” and the clause “iam nunc et quia deus et sermo et spiritus dei”; they are omitted. The digital text's stray punctuation and the split “uide. batur” are corrected.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word in the digital text; stray punctuation in the digital text): aut. si deum → aut si deum; qui uide. batur → qui uidebatur.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 14 (CSEL 47:250–253; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/14).
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/14
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Chapter 15
15CSEL 47:253–256
Si hunc articulum quaestionibus scripturae ueteris non expediam, de nouo testamento sumam confirmationem nostrae interpretationis, ne quodcumque in filium reputo, in patrem proinde defendas. ecce enim et in euangeliis et in apostolis uisibilem et inuisibilem deum deprehendo sub manifesta et personali distinctione condicionis utriusque. exclamat quodammodo Iohannes: deum nemo uidit umquam, utique nec retro; ademit enim temporis quaestionem dicendo deum numquam uisum. confirmat et apostolus de deo: quem nemo uidit hominum, sed nec uidere potest, scilicet quia morietur qui uidebit. idem ipsi apostoli et uidisse se Christum et contrectasse testantur. porro si ipse est Christus et pater et filius, quomodo et uisus est et inuisus? ad hanc diuersitatem uisi et inuisi in unum conferendam quis ex diuerso non argumentabitur recte utrumque dictum, uisibilem quidem in carne, inuisibilem uero ante carnem, ut idem sit pater inuisibilis ante carnem qui et filius uisibilis in carne? atquin si idem ante carnem inuisibilis, quomodo uisus etiam retro inuenitur ante carnem? aeque si idem post carnem uisibilis, quomodo et nunc inuisibilis pronuntiatur ab apostolis. nisi quia alius, quem, et retro uisum in aenigmate, plenius uisibilem caro effecit, sermo scilicet, qui et caro factus est. alius, quem numquam quisquam uidit, [nisi] pater scilicet, cuius est sermo? denique inspiciamus, quem apostoli uiderint. quod uidimus, inquit Iohannes, quod audiuimus, oculis nostris uidimus, et manus nostrae contrectauerunt de sermone uitae. sermo enim uitae caro factus est. auditus et uisus et contrectatus, quia caro, qui ante carnem sermo tantum, in primordio apud deum patrem, non (deus) pater. [apud sermonem] nam etsi deus sermo, sed, quia ex deo deus, apud deum, quia cum patre, apud patrem. et uidimus gloriam eius, tamquam unigeniti a patre. utique filii, scilicet uisibilis, glorificati a patre inuisibili. et ideo, quoniam sermonem dei deum dixerat, ne adiuuaret aduersariorum praesumptionem, quasi patrem ipsum uidisset. ad distinguendum inter inuisibilem patrem et filium uisibilem superdicit ex abundanti: deum nemo uidit umquam. quem deum? sermonem? atquin: uidimus et audiuimus et contrectauimus de sermone uitae praedictum est. sed quem deum? scilicet patrem, apud quem deus erat sermo. unigenitus filius, qui sinum patris ipse disseruit. ipse et auditus et uisus et, ne phantasma crederetur, etiam contrectatus. hunc et Paulus conspexit, nec tamen patrem uidit. nonne, inquit, uidi Iesum? Christum autem (si) et ipse deum cognominauit: quorum patres, et ex quibus Christus secundum carnem, qui est super omnia deus benedictus in aeuum, ostendit et ipse uisibilem deum filium, id est sermonem dei, quia qui caro factus est Christus dictus est. de patre autem ad Timotheum: quem nemo uidit hominum, sed nec uidere potest, exaggerans amplius: qui solus habet inmortalitatem et lucem habitat inaccessibilem, de quo et supra dixerat: regi autem saeculorum, inmortali, inuisibili, soli deo, ut et contraria ipsi filio adscriberemus, mortalitatem, accessibilitatem, quem mortuum contestatur secundum scripturas et a se nouissime uisum, per accessibilem utique lucem, quamquam et illam neque ipse sine periculo luminis expertus est, neque Petrus et Iohannes et Iacobus sine rationis, [et amentia, qui] credo, morituri ibidem, si non passuri filii gloriam, sed patrem uidissent. deum enim nemo uidebit et uiuet. si haec ita sunt, constat eum semper uisum ab initio, qui uisus fuerit in fine, et eum nec in fine uisum, qui nec ab initio fuit uisus, et ita duos esse uisum et inuisum. filius ergo uisus est semper, et filius conuersatus est semper, et filius operatus est semper, ex auctoritate patris et uoluntate, quia filius nihil a semetipso potest facere, nisi uiderit patrem facientem, in sensu scilicet facientem. pater enim sensu agit, filius, qui in patris sensu est, uidens perficit. sic omnia per filium facta sunt et sine illo factum est nihil.
If I do not settle this point by questions from the Old Scripture, I will take confirmation of our interpretation from the New Testament, so that you may not claim for the Father whatever I ascribe to the Son. For see, both in the Gospels and in the apostles I find a visible and an invisible God, under a clear and personal distinction of the condition of each. John, as it were, cries out: “No one has ever seen God”; not in former times either, of course, for he removed the question of time by saying that God has never been seen. The apostle too confirms concerning God: “whom no man has seen, nor can see,” because, of course, he who sees him will die. Yet the same apostles testify that they have seen and handled Christ. Now if Christ himself is both Father and Son, how was he both seen and unseen? To bring this difference of seen and unseen into one, who on the other side will not argue that both are rightly said, visible in the flesh but invisible before the flesh, so that the same one is the Father invisible before the flesh who is also the Son visible in the flesh? But if the same one was invisible before the flesh, how is he found to have been seen in former times, before the flesh? Likewise, if the same one is visible after the flesh, how is he now also declared invisible by the apostles? Unless because one is he whom the flesh made more fully visible, though he had been seen in a riddle before, namely the Word, who was also made flesh; and another he whom no one has ever seen, namely the Father, whose Word he is? Let us look, then, at whom the apostles saw. “What we have seen,” says John, “what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life.” For the Word of life was made flesh, heard and seen and handled because flesh, he who before the flesh was only the Word, in the beginning with God the Father, not the Father. For though the Word is God, yet, because he is God from God, he is “with God,” and because with the Father, with the Father. “And we saw his glory, the glory as of the only-begotten from the Father”: of the Son, that is, the visible one, glorified by the invisible Father. And so, since he had called the Word of God God, lest he should assist the presumption of the adversaries, as though he had seen the Father himself, to distinguish between the invisible Father and the visible Son he adds besides, for good measure: “No one has ever seen God.” What God? The Word? But “we have seen and heard and handled concerning the Word of life” was said before. Which God, then? The Father, of course, with whom the Word was God. The only-begotten Son, who himself declared the bosom of the Father, was himself both heard and seen and, lest he be believed a phantom, even handled. Him Paul too beheld, yet he did not see the Father. “Have I not,” he says, “seen Jesus?” And when he himself also called Christ God, “of whom are the fathers, and from whom is Christ according to the flesh, who is God over all, blessed forever,” he too shows that God the Son, that is, the Word of God, is visible, since he who was made flesh is called Christ. But of the Father he says to Timothy: “whom no man has seen, nor can see,” amplifying it further: “who alone has immortality and dwells in light unapproachable,” of whom he had also said above, “to the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God”; so that we might ascribe the contrary to the Son himself, mortality and approachability, whom he testifies died according to the Scriptures and was seen last of all by himself, through an approachable light, of course; though he himself did not experience even that without danger to his sight, nor did Peter, John, and James without danger to their reason, who would, I believe, have died on the spot if they had seen not the glory of the Son, who was to suffer, but the Father. For “no one shall see God and live.” If this is so, it is clear that he who was seen at the end was always seen from the beginning, and that he who was not seen from the beginning was not seen at the end either; and so there are two, the seen and the unseen. It was the Son, then, who was always seen, the Son who always conversed with men, the Son who always acted, by the authority and will of the Father; since “the Son can do nothing of himself unless he sees the Father doing it”: doing it, that is, in his mind. For the Father acts by mind, and the Son, who is in the Father's mind, seeing, brings it to completion. So all things were made through the Son, and without him nothing was made.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
John 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 6:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 9:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 9:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 17:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 33:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The New Testament too distinguishes the invisible Father, whom no one has seen, from the visible Son, whom the apostles saw and touched; the Son was always the one seen and always acted by the Father's will.
- The quotations are John 1:18, 1 Tim 6:16, 1 John 1:1, John 1:14, 1 Cor 9:1, Rom 9:5, 1 Tim 1:17, Exod 33:20, John 5:19, and John 1:3; the allusions are 1 Cor 15:3-8, Acts 9:3-9, and Matt 17:1-6. The editor deletes “nisi,” “apud sermonem,” and “et amentia, qui”; they are omitted. The digital text's “es deo,” “que m,” and “pei-ficit” are corrected.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (letter misread in the digital text; letters misread in the digital text; split word in the digital text): quia es deo deus → quia ex deo deus; que m nemo → quem nemo; uidens pei-ficit → uidens perficit.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 15 (CSEL 47:253–256; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/15).
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/15
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Chapter 16
16CSEL 47:256–258
Nec putes sola opera mundi per filium facta, sed et quae a deo exinde gesta sunt. pater enim, qui diligit filium et omnia tradidit in manu eius, utique a primordio diligit et a primordio tradidit, ex quo [a primordio] sermo erat apud deum et deus erat sermo. cui data est omnis potestas a patre in caelis et in terra; non iudicat pater quemquam), sed omne iudicium tradidit filio, a primordio tamen. omnem enim dicens potestatem et: omne iudicium et omnia per eum facta et omnia tradita in manu eius, nullam exceptionem temporis permittit, quia omnia non erunt, si non omnia temporis fuerint. filius itaque est. qui et ab initio iudicauit, turrem superbissimam elidens linguasque disperdens, orbem totum aquarum uiolentia puniens. pluens super Sodomam et Gomorram ignem et sulphurem, deus a deo. ipse enim et ad humana semper colloquia descendit, ab Adam usque ad patriarchas et prophetas, in uisione, in somnio, in speculo, in aenigmate ordinem suum praestruens ab initio, semper quem erat persecuturus in fine. ita semper ediscebat, et deus, in terris cum hominibus conuersari, non alius quam sermo, qui caro erat futurus; ediscebat autem, ut nobis fidem sterneret, ut facilius crederemus filium dei descendisse in saeculum, (cum) et retro tale quid gestum cognosceremus. propter nos enim sicut scripta sunt ita et gesta sunt, in quos aeuorum fines decucurrerunt. sic etiam adfectus humanos sciebat iam tunc, suscepturus etiam ipsas substantias hominis, carnem et animum, interrogans Adam quasi nesciens: ubi es, Adam? paenitens, quod hominem fecisset, quasi non praesciens; temptans Abraham, quasi ignorans, quid sit in homine; offensus, reconciliatus eisdem, et si qua haeretici adprehendunt quasi deo indigna ad destructionem creatoris, ignorantes haec in filium competisse, qui etiam passiones humanas et sitim et esuriem et lacrimas et ipsam natiuitatem ipsamque mortem erat subiturus, propter hoc minoratus a patre modicum citra angelos. sed quae haeretici quidem nec filio dei deputabunt conuenire, tu ipsi patri inducis, quasi ipse se deminorauerit propter nos, cum scriptura alium dicat ab alio minoratum, non ipsum a semetipso. quodsi et alius qui coronabatur gloriam et honorem, alius qui coronabat, (coronabat) utique filium pater. ceterum quale est, ut deus omnipotens ille inuisibilis, quem nemo uidit hominum nec uidere potest, ille qui inaccessibilem lucem habitat, ille qui non habitat in manu factis, a cuius conspectu terra contremescit, montes liquescunt ut cera, qui totum orbem manu adprehendit uelut nidum, cui caelum thronus et terra scabellum, in quo omnis locus, non ipse in loco, qui uniuersitatis extrema linea est, ille altissimus in paradiso ad uesperam deambularit, quaerens Adam, et arcam post introitum Noe clauserit, et apud Abraham sub quercu refrigerauerit, et Moysen de rubo ardenti uocarit, et in fornace Babylonii regis quartus apparuerit? quamquam filius hominis est dictus et in imagine et speculo et aenigmate scilicet et haec, nec de filio dei credenda fuissent, si scripta non essent, fortasse non credenda de patre, licet scripta, quem isti in uuluam Mariae deducunt et in Pilati tribunal imponunt et in monumentis Ioseph recondunt. hinc igitur apparet error illorum. ignorantes enim a primordio omnem ordinem diuinae dispositionis per filium decucurrisse, ipsum credunt patrem et uisum et congressum et operatum et sitim et esuriem passum — aduersus prophetam dicentem: deus aeternus non sitiet nec esuriet omnino: quanto magis nec morietur nec sepelietur? — et ita, unum deum semper egisse *, id est patrem, quae per filium gesta sunt,
And do not think that only the works of the world were made through the Son, but also the things done by God from then on. For the Father, who loves the Son and has given all things into his hand, loves him from the beginning and has given them from the beginning, from the time when the Word was with God and the Word was God. To him has been given all power by the Father in heaven and on earth; “the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son,” yet from the beginning. For by saying “all power” and “all judgment,” and that all things were made through him and all things given into his hand, he allows no exception of time, since they will not be all things unless they are things of all time. So it is the Son who judged from the beginning too, dashing down the proudest tower and confusing the languages, punishing the whole world by the violence of the waters, raining fire and sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah, God from God. For it was he who always came down to converse with men, from Adam down to the patriarchs and prophets, in vision, in dream, in mirror, in riddle, preparing from the beginning the course he was to follow to the end. So he was always learning, even as God, to converse with men on earth, being none other than the Word who was to be flesh. And he was learning in order to lay a foundation of faith for us, so that we might more easily believe that the Son of God had come down into the world, knowing that something of the kind had been done in former times too. For as they were written for our sake, so they were done for our sake, “on whom the ends of the ages have come.” So he already knew human feelings too, being about to take on the very substances of man, flesh and soul, questioning Adam as if he did not know, “Where are you, Adam?”; repenting that he had made man, as if he had not foreknown; testing Abraham, as if ignorant of what is in man; offended with the same people, and reconciled; and whatever else the heretics seize on as unworthy of God, to destroy the Creator, not knowing that these things befitted the Son, who was to undergo even human sufferings, thirst and hunger and tears, and birth itself and death itself, being for this reason made a little lower than the angels by the Father. But what even the heretics will not reckon fitting for the Son of God, you bring upon the Father himself, as if he had lowered himself for us, when Scripture says that one was made lower by another, not himself by himself. And if one was crowned with glory and honor, and another crowned him, the Father, surely, crowned the Son. Besides, how could it be that God Almighty, that invisible one, whom no man has seen or can see, he who dwells in light unapproachable, he who does not dwell in things made with hands, at whose sight the earth trembles and the mountains melt like wax, who grasps the whole world in his hand like a nest, whose throne is heaven and the earth his footstool, in whom is every place while he is not in a place, who is the outermost boundary of the universe, that he, the Most High, should have walked in paradise in the evening looking for Adam, and shut the ark after Noah went in, and rested under the oak with Abraham, and called Moses from the burning bush, and appeared as the fourth in the Babylonian king's furnace (although he was called Son of Man), in image, of course, and mirror and riddle? These things would not have been credible even of the Son of God if they had not been written; perhaps they are not credible of the Father even though they are written; the Father whom these people bring down into Mary's womb, set before Pilate's judgment seat, and shut up in Joseph's tomb. Here, then, their error appears. For, not knowing that from the beginning the whole order of the divine arrangement has run its course through the Son, they believe that it was the Father himself who was seen, who met with men, who acted, who suffered thirst and hunger (against the prophet who says, “The eternal God will not thirst, nor hunger at all”; how much less will he die or be buried!), and so that one God, namely the Father, always did … what was done through the Son,
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
John 3:35 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 11:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 7:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 19:24 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 6:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 22:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 8:5 (8:6 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 6:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 7:48 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 97:5 (96:5 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 10:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 66:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 3:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 7:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 18:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 3:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Dan 3:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 40:28 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: From the beginning it was the Son, not the Father, who acted in history, judged, appeared to Adam, Abraham, Moses, and in the furnace, and took on human feelings; the invisible Father did none of these things.
- The quotations and allusions are John 3:35, 1:1, Matt 28:18, John 5:22, Gen 11 (Babel), Gen 7, Gen 19:24, 1 Cor 10:11, Gen 3:9, 6:6, 22:1, Ps 8:5 (Heb 2:7), 1 Tim 6:16, Acts 7:48, Ps 97:5 (96:5 Vulg.), Isa 10:14, Isa 66:1, Gen 3:8, 7:16, 18:1-8, Exod 3:4, Dan 3:25, and Isa 40:28 (in an Old Latin form). The asterisk in the digital text marks a gap, shown as “…”. The sentence runs on into ch. 17. The editor deletes the second “a primordio”; it is omitted. The digital text's “in, uisione” and “inten-ogans” are corrected.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (letters misread in the digital text; stray punctuation in the digital text): in, uisione → in uisione; inten-ogans → interrogans.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 16 (CSEL 47:256–258; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/16).
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/16
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Kroymann, CSEL 47 (1906); made independently of existing English translations.
Chapter 17
17CSEL 47:258–259
facilius existimauerunt patrem in filii nomine uenisse quam filium in patris, dicente ipso domino: ego ueni in patris mei nomine, item ad ipsum patrem: nomen tuum manifestaui hominibus, condicente etiam scriptura: benedictus qui uenit in nomine domini, utique filius in patris nomine. sed nomen patris: deus omnipotens. (altissimus,) dominus uirtutum, rex Israhelis, qui est. quatenus ita scripturae docent, haec dicimus et in filium competisse et in his filium uenisse et in his semper egisse et sic ea in se hominibus manifestasse. omnia, inquit, patris mea sunt. cur non et nomina? cum ergo legis deum omnipotentem et altissimum et deum uirtutum et regem Israhelis et qui est, uide, ne per haec filius etiam demonstretur, suo iure deus (omnipotens.) qua sermo dei omnipotentis quaque omnium accepit potestatem, altissimus, qua dextera dei exaltatus, sicut Petrus in Actis contionatur, dominus uirtutum, quia omnia subiecta sunt illi a patre, rex Israhelis, quia illi proprie excidit sors gentis istius, item qui est, quoniam multi [filii] dicuntur et non sunt. si autem uolunt et patris nomen Christi esse, audient suo loco. interim hic mihi promptum sit responsum aduersus id, quod et de Apocalypsi Iohannis proferunt: ego dominus, qui est et qui fuit et (qui) uenit, omnipotens, et sicubi alibi dei omnipotentis appellationem non putant etiam filio conuenire. quasi qui uenturus sit ** omnipotens, cum et filius omnipotentis tam omnipotens sit quam deus dei filius.
they thought it easier that the Father had come in the Son's name than that the Son had come in the Father's; though the Lord himself says, “I have come in my Father's name,” and likewise to the Father himself, “I have made your name known to men,” and Scripture agrees: “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord,” that is, the Son in the Father's name. And the Father's names are God Almighty, the Most High, the Lord of hosts, the King of Israel, He Who Is. As the Scriptures so teach, we say that these belonged to the Son as well, that the Son came in them and always acted in them, and so made them known to men in himself. “All that the Father has,” he says, “is mine.” Why not his names too? So when you read of God Almighty, the Most High, the God of hosts, the King of Israel, and He Who Is, see whether the Son too is not shown by them: God Almighty in his own right, as the Word of God Almighty and as having received power over all; the Most High, as exalted by God's right hand, as Peter proclaims in Acts; Lord of hosts, because all things have been subjected to him by the Father; King of Israel, because the lot of that nation fell to him in particular; likewise He Who Is, since many are called but are not. And if they want the Father's name to be Christ's also, they will hear about it in its place. Meanwhile let this be my ready answer against what they bring forward from John's Apocalypse too: “I am the Lord, who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty,” and anywhere else they think the title “God Almighty” does not fit the Son also. As if he who is to come were not … almighty, when the Son of the Almighty is as much almighty as the Son of God is God.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
John 5:43 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 118:26 (117:26 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:33 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 3:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 32:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rev 1:8 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The divine names, God Almighty, Most High, Lord of hosts, King of Israel, He Who Is, belong to the Son too, since he came in the Father's name and received all things from him.
- The sentence begins at the end of ch. 16. The quotations are John 5:43, 17:6, Ps 118:26 (117:26 Vulg.; Matt 21:9), John 16:15, and Rev 1:8; the allusions are Acts 2:33, 1 Cor 15:27, Exod 3:14, and Deut 32:9. The asterisks in the digital text mark a gap, shown as “…”. The editor deletes “filii” in “many [sons] are called”; it is omitted. The digital text's “measunt” and “omni-. potens” are corrected.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word in the digital text; words run together in the digital text): patris measunt → patris mea sunt; omni-. potens → omnipotens.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Tertullian, Prax. 17 (CSEL 47:258–259; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/17).
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/tertullian-praxean/17
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Kroymann, CSEL 47 (1906); made independently of existing English translations.