Homilies on 2 Timothy 8.1–8.5

Greek text: PG 62.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 13 (1889).

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Chapter 8

8.1PG 62:604

Τοῦτο δὲ γίγωσκδ, ὅτι ἐν ἐσχάταις ἡμέραις ἐνστήσονται καιροὶ χαλεποί. Ἔσονται γάρ οἱ ἄνθρωποι φίλαυτοι, φιλάργυροι, ἀλαζόνες, ὑπερ- Ἐτπει τειυφρωμέγοι, φιλήδονοι μάλλον ἣ φι- Εἴτις ἐπ τοῖς αἱρετικοῖς ἀσχάλλει νῦν, ἐννοείτω, ὅτι καὶ ἐξ ἀρχῆς τοιαῦτα γέγονεν, ἀεΐ τοῦ διαδόλου. τῇ ἀληθείᾳ τὸ ψεῦδος παρυφιστῶντος. Ἐπηγγείλατο ὁ Θεὸς ἐξ ἀρχῆς τὰ ἀγαθὰ, ἦλθε καὶ ὁ διάδολος γελλόμενος᾽ ἐφύτευσε παράδεισον, ἠπάτησεν ἐχεῖνος, εἰπὼν, ἽἜσεσθε ὡς θεοί. ᾿Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ ἔργοις οὐδὲν ἐδείκνυ, ῥήμασι τὰ μείζονα ὑπισχνεῖται. Τοιοῦτον γὰρ οἱ ἀπατεῶνες, Μετὰ ταῦτα ἦν ὁ Κάϊν καὶ ὁ γΑδελ, εἶτα οἱ υἱοὶ τοῦ Σὴθ καὶ αἱ θυγατέρες τῶν ἀνθρώπων, εἶτα ὁ Χὰμ καὶ ὁ Ἰάφεθ, ὁ ᾿Αδραὰμ καὶ ὁ Φαραὼ, ὁ Ἰαχὼδ καὶ ὁ Ἡσαῦ - καὶ μέχρι τέλους οὕτως ἐστὶν, ὁ Μωῦσῆς καὶ οἱ μάγοι, καὶ οἱ προφῆται καὶ οἱ ψευδοπροφῆται,.οἱ ἀπόστολοι καὶ οἱ ψευδαπόστολοι, ὁ Χριστὸς καὶ ὁ ἀντίχριστος. Καὶ πρότερον οὖν, καὶ τότε τὰ αὐτὰ ἦν, Τότε ὁ Θευδᾶς, τότε ὁ Σίμῶν, ὅτε οἱ ἀπόστολοι, καὶ οὗτοι οἱ περὶ 'Ερμογένην καὶ Φίλητον. Οὐχ ἔστιν οὖν ὅτε οὐ παρυφέστηχε τῇ ἀληθείᾳ τὸ ψεῦδο;. Μὴ τοίνυν ἀσχάλλωμεν, ἄνωθεν ταῦτα εἴρηται. Διὰ τοῦτο ἔλεγε" 1Πἰνωσχξ, ὅτι ἐν ἐσχάταις ἡμέραις ἐνστήσονται καιροὶ χαλεποί. Ἔσονται γὰρ οἱ ἄνθρωποι ςίλαυτοι, ἀλαζόνες, ὑπερήφανοι, βλάσφημοι, γονεῦσιν ἀπειθεῖς, ἀχάριστοι, ἀνόσιοι, ἄστοργοι. “Ἄρα ὁ ἀχάριστος ἀνόσιος" εἰχότως. Ὁ γὰρ περὶ τὸν εὐεργέτην ἀχάριστος, τίς ἂν γένοιτό ποτε περὶ τοὺς ἄλλους; Ὃ ἀχάριστος ἄσπονδος, ὁ ἀχάριστος ἄστοργος. Διάδοιλοι, φησί " τουτέστι, χαχήγοροι. Οἱ γὰρ μηδὲν ἑαυτοῖς συνειδότες ἀγαθὸν, ὥτπερ τινὰ παραμυθίαν ἔχοντες τὸ τῶν ἄλλων τὰ; ὑπολήψεις βλασφημεῖν, μυρία πλημμελοῦσι καὶ ἁμαρτάνουσιν. ᾿Αχρατεῖς, καὶ γλώσσης καὶ γαστρὸς καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἀπάντων. Ἀνήμεροι. Ἐντεῦθεν ἡ ὠμότης, ἐντεῦθεν ἡ ἀπήνεια, ὅταν τις φιλάργυρος, ὅταν τις φίλαυτος, ὅταν ἀχάπετεῖς. --- Προδόται, τῆς φιλίας" Προπετεῖς, θεοι" ἔχοντες μόρφωσιν εὐσεθδείας, τὴν δὲ δύναμεν αὑτῆς ἠργημένοι. Καὶ ἐν τῇ πρὸς Ῥωμαίους γράφων, οὕτω πώς φησιν " Ἔχοντες τὴν μόρξωσιν τῆς γνώσεως καὶ τῆς ἀληθείας ἐν τῷ νόμῳ. "Αλλ᾽ ἔχεῖ μὲν ἐπαινῶν αὐτὸ τίθησιν " ἐνταῦθα δὲ παρὰ πάντα τὰ ἐλαττώματα χαλεπώτερον τοῦτο δείχνυσι τὸ ἁμάρτημα. Τί δήποτε; Ὅτι οὐ χἀτὰ τὸ αὐτὸ σημαινόμενον αὐτὸ ἔλαδεν. “Ὥσπερ γὰρ τὴν εἰκόνα πολλάχις μὲν εἰς ὁμοίωσιν λαμδάνει, πολλάχις δὲ εἰς τὸ ἄψυχον καὶ οὐδαμινόν " οἷον καθάπερ καὶ αὐτός φησι Κορινθίοις γράφων " ᾿Αγὴρ μὲν γὰρ οὐκ ὀφείλει κατακαιλύπτεσθαι τὴν κεφαλὴν, εἰκὼν καὶ δόξα Θεοῦ ὑπάρχων" ὁ δὲ Προφήτης " Πλὴν ἐν εἰχόνι διαπορεύεται ἄγθρωπος " καὶ τὸν λέοντα ἡ Γραφὴ ποτὲ μὲν εἰς τὸ βασιλιχὸν λαμδάνει - ᾿Εχοιμήθη, φη οἷν, ὡς «έων, καὶ ὡς σκύμνος «(Ἰέοντος " τίς ἐγερεῖ αὑτόν; ποτὲ δὲ εἰς τὸ ἁρπαχτιχόν " Ὡς «λέων ἀἁρπάζων καὶ ὡρυόμενος " οὕτω καὶ ἡμεῖς τὸ αὐτὸ ποιοῦμεν. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ τὰ πράγματα σύνθετά ἔστι καὶ ποικίλα, εἰκότως εἰς πολλὰς εἰχόνας καὶ παραδείγματα παρείληπται " οἷον, τὴν καλὴν ὅταν θαυμάζειν βουλώμεθα, ταῖς γραφαῖ; παρεικάζομεν, καὶ τὰς γραφομένας ὅταν θαυμάζειν βουλώμεθα, λέγομεν ὅτι λαλεῖ, ὅτι φθέγγεται " οὐ ποιοῦμεν δὲ τὸ αὐτό" ἐχεῖ μὲν γὰρ, ὅτι ἐγγὺς ὁμοιότητος ἦλθεν, ἐνταῦθα δὲ, ὅτι ποῦ χάλλους ἐγγύς. Οὕτω καὶ ἐν τῇ μορφῇ, ἐκεῖ μὲν, ὅτι τύπος τις καὶ εἰχὼν καὶ διδασχαλία καὶ ἀρχέτυπὸν τῆς εὐσεδείας " ἐνταῦθα δὲ, ὅτι ἄψυχον καὶ νεκρὴν, καὶ σχῆμα μόνον καὶ τύπον καὶ ὑπόχρισιν δηλοῖ, ΓἌρα σχῆμά ἐστιομόνον χωρὶς δυνάμεως πίστις χωρὶς ἔργων " εἰκότως. "Ὥσπερ γὰρ σῶμα καλὸν καὶ εὐανθὲς, ὅταν ἰσχὺν μὴ ἔχῃ, ἀλλὰ τοῖς ἐξωγραφημένοις ἢ προσεοιχὸς, οὕτω πίστις ὀρθὴ χωρὶς ἔργων. Θῶμεν γὰρ εἶναί τινα φιλάργυρον, προδότην, προπετῆ " εἶτα πιστεύειν ὀρθῶς - τί τὸ κέρδος ἂν μηδὲν ἔχῃ τῶν τῷ Χριστιανῷ πρεπόντων; ὅταν μηδὲν πράττῃ τῶν τὴν εὐ σέδειαν καραχτηριξόντων, ἀλλὰ τοὺς Ἕλληνας παρἐλαύνῃ τῇ ἀσεδείᾳ; ὅταν ἐπὶ λόμῃ τῶν συνόντων ἧ 5; ὅταν ἐπὶ βλασφημίᾳ τοῦ Θεοῦ; ὅταν διαδάλλῃ τὸ δόγμα διὰ τῶν ἔργων; Καὶ τούτους, φησὶν, ἀποτρέπου. Εἰ τοίνυν ἐν ὑστέροις χαιροῖς τοιοῦτοι ἔσονται, πῶς φησι, Καὶ τούτους ἀποτρέπου; Εἰκὸς μὲν καὶ τότε τοιούτους εἶναί τινας, εἰ καὶ μὴ μεθ᾽ ὑπερδολῆς, ἀλλ' ὅμως εἶναι " τὸ δ᾽ ἀληθὲς δι᾿ ἐχείνου πᾶσι παραινεῖ, ὥστε ἐχτρέπεσθαι τοὺς τοιούτους. Ἕκ τούτῶν γάρ εἰσι, φησὶν, οἱ ἐγδύνοντες εἰς τὰς οἰκίας, καὶ αἰχμαλωτίζοντες γυναιχάρια σεσωρευμένα ἁμαρτίαις, ἀγόμενα ἐπιθυμίαις ποικίλαις, πάντοτε μαγθάνοντα, καὶ μηδέποτε εἰς ἐπίγνωσιν ἀληθείας δυνάμενα ἐλθεῖν.

Touto de gigōskd, hoti en eschatais hēmerais enstēsontai kairoi chalepoi. Esontai gar hoi anthrōpoi philautoi, philargyroi, alazones, hyper- Etpei teiyphrōmegoi, philēdonoi mallon hē phi- Eitis ep tois hairetikois aschallei nyn, ennoeitō, hoti kai ex archēs toiauta gegonen, aeï tou diadolou. tę̄ alētheią to pseudos paryphistōntos. Epēngeilato ho Theos ex archēs ta agatha, ēlthe kai ho diadolos gellomenos᾽ ephyteuse paradeison, ēpatēsen echeinos, eipōn, HiEsesthe hōs theoi. ᾿Epeidē gar ergois ouden edeikny, rhēmasi ta meizona hypischneitai. Toiouton gar hoi apateōnes, Meta tauta ēn ho Kaïn kai ho gAdel, eita hoi huioi tou Sēth kai hai thygateres tōn anthrōpōn, eita ho Cham kai ho Iapheth, ho ᾿Adraam kai ho Pharaō, ho Iachōd kai ho Hēsau - kai mechri telous houtōs estin, ho Mōysēs kai hoi magoi, kai hoi prophētai kai hoi pseudoprophētai,.hoi apostoloi kai hoi pseudapostoloi, ho Christos kai ho antichristos. Kai proteron oun, kai tote ta auta ēn, Tote ho Theudas, tote ho Simōn, hote hoi apostoloi, kai houtoi hoi peri 'Ermogenēn kai Philēton. Ouch estin oun hote ou paryphestēche tę̄ alētheią to pseudo?. Mē toinyn aschallōmen, anōthen tauta eirētai. Dia touto elege" 1Pinōschx, hoti en eschatais hēmerais enstēsontai kairoi chalepoi. Esontai gar hoi anthrōpoi silautoi, alazones, hyperēphanoi, blasphēmoi, goneusin apeitheis, acharistoi, anosioi, astorgoi. “Ara ho acharistos anosios" eichotōs. Ho gar peri ton euergetēn acharistos, tis an genoito pote peri tous allous? Ho acharistos aspondos, ho acharistos astorgos. Diadoiloi, phēsi " toutesti, chachēgoroi. Hoi gar mēden heautois syneidotes agathon, hōtper tina paramythian echontes to tōn allōn ta? hypolēpseis blasphēmein, myria plēmmelousi kai hamartanousin. ᾿Achrateis, kai glōssēs kai gastros kai tōn allōn apantōn. Anēmeroi. Enteuthen hē ōmotēs, enteuthen hē apēneia, hotan tis philargyros, hotan tis philautos, hotan achapeteis. --- Prodotai, tēs philias" Propeteis, theoi" echontes morphōsin eusethdeias, tēn de dynamen hautēs ērgēmenoi. Kai en tę̄ pros Rhōmaious graphōn, houtō pōs phēsin " Echontes tēn morxōsin tēs gnōseōs kai tēs alētheias en tǭ nomǭ. "All᾽ echei men epainōn auto tithēsin " entautha de para panta ta elattōmata chalepōteron touto deichnysi to hamartēma. Ti dēpote? Hoti ou chata to auto sēmainomenon auto eladen. “Hōsper gar tēn eikona pollachis men eis homoiōsin lamdanei, pollachis de eis to apsychon kai oudaminon " hoion kathaper kai autos phēsi Korinthiois graphōn " ᾿Agēr men gar ouk opheilei katakailyptesthai tēn kephalēn, eikōn kai doxa Theou hyparchōn" ho de Prophētēs " Plēn en eichoni diaporeuetai agthrōpos " kai ton leonta hē Graphē pote men eis to basilichon lamdanei - ᾿Echoimēthē, phē hoin, hōs «eōn, kai hōs skymnos «(Ieontos " tis egerei hauton? pote de eis to harpachtichon " Hōs «leōn haarpazōn kai hōryomenos " houtō kai hēmeis to auto poioumen. Epeidē gar ta pragmata syntheta esti kai poikila, eikotōs eis pollas eichonas kai paradeigmata pareilēptai " hoion, tēn kalēn hotan thaumazein boulōmetha, tais graphai? pareikazomen, kai tas graphomenas hotan thaumazein boulōmetha, legomen hoti lalei, hoti phthengetai " ou poioumen de to auto" echei men gar, hoti engys homoiotētos ēlthen, entautha de, hoti pou challous engys. Houtō kai en tę̄ morphę̄, ekei men, hoti typos tis kai eichōn kai didaschalia kai archetypon tēs eusedeias " entautha de, hoti apsychon kai nekrēn, kai schēma monon kai typon kai hypochrisin dēloi, GAra schēma estiomonon chōris dynameōs pistis chōris ergōn " eikotōs. "Hōsper gar sōma kalon kai euanthes, hotan ischyn mē echę̄, alla tois exōgraphēmenois ē proseoichos, houtō pistis orthē chōris ergōn. Thōmen gar einai tina philargyron, prodotēn, propetē " eita pisteuein orthōs - ti to kerdos an mēden echę̄ tōn tǭ Christianǭ prepontōn? hotan mēden prattę̄ tōn tēn eu sedeian karachtērixontōn, alla tous Hellēnas parelaunę̄ tę̄ asedeią? hotan epi lomę̄ tōn synontōn hē 5? hotan epi blasphēmią tou Theou? hotan diadallę̄ to dogma dia tōn ergōn? Kai toutous, phēsin, apotrepou. Ei toinyn en hysterois chairois toioutoi esontai, pōs phēsi, Kai toutous apotrepou? Eikos men kai tote toioutous einai tinas, ei kai mē meth᾽ hyperdolēs, all' homōs einai " to d᾽ alēthes di᾿ echeinou pasi parainei, hōste echtrepesthai tous toioutous. Hek toutōn gar eisi, phēsin, hoi egdynontes eis tas oikias, kai aichmalōtizontes gynaicharia sesōreumena hamartiais, agomena epithymiais poikilais, pantote magthanonta, kai mēdepote eis epignōsin alētheias dynamena elthein.

“But know this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boasters, arro[gant … reckless], conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lo[vers of God …].” If anyone is vexed now at the heretics, let him consider that such things have happened from the beginning, since the devil has always set falsehood up beside the truth. God promised good things from the beginning; the devil also came with promises. God planted paradise; the devil deceived, saying, “You will be like gods.” For since he could show nothing by deeds, he promises greater things in words; deceivers are like that. After this there were Cain and Abel, then the sons of Seth and the daughters of men, then Ham and Japheth, Abraham and Pharaoh, Jacob and Esau; and so it goes on to the end: Moses and the magicians, the prophets and the false prophets, the apostles and the false apostles, Christ and the antichrist. So it was before, and so it was then. There was Theudas, there was Simon, when there were the apostles, and these people around Hermogenes and Philetus. There is no time, then, when falsehood has not stood beside the truth. Let us not, then, be vexed; these things were foretold from of old. That is why he said, “Know that in the last days difficult times will come. For people will be lovers of self, boasters, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, without natural affection.” So the ungrateful man is unholy—and rightly so. For one who is ungrateful toward his benefactor, what would he ever be toward others? The ungrateful man is implacable; the ungrateful man is without natural affection. “Slanderers,” he says; that is, evil-speakers. For those who are conscious of no good in themselves, as though they found some consolation in blackening the reputations of others, commit countless offences and sins. “Without self-control”: of tongue and belly and everything else. “Savage.” From this comes cruelty, from this comes harshness, when someone is a lover of money, when someone is a lover of self, when … “Traitors”: of friendship. “Reckless, [conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of] God, having a form of godliness, but having denied its power.” And writing to the Romans he says something like this: “having the form of knowledge and of truth in the law.” But there he puts it down as praise, while here he shows this to be a sin more grievous than all the other failings. Why? Because he did not take the word in the same sense. For just as he often takes “image” to mean likeness, but often to mean what is lifeless and worthless—as he himself says, writing to the Corinthians, “For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God,” and the prophet, “Surely man walks about as an image”—and as Scripture takes the lion sometimes for what is kingly—“He lay down,” it says, “as a lion, and as a lion's whelp; who will rouse him?”—and sometimes for what is rapacious—“as a lion ravening and roaring”—so we too do the same. For since things are composite and varied, they are naturally used for many images and examples. For instance, when we wish to admire a beautiful woman, we compare her to paintings; and when we wish to admire painted women, we say that they speak, that they utter sounds. But we are not doing the same thing: in the one case it is because the painting has come close to likeness, in the other because the woman is close to beauty. So too with “form”: there it means a type and image and teaching and archetype of godliness; here it indicates something lifeless and dead, a mere shape and outline and pretence. So faith without works is a mere shape without power—and rightly so. For like a beautiful and blooming body that has no strength but resembles painted figures, so is right faith without works. For suppose someone is a lover of money, a traitor, reckless, and then believes rightly: what is the gain, if he has none of the things that befit a Christian? When he does none of the things that mark out godliness, but outstrips the Greeks in ungodliness? When he is a ruin to those around him? When he causes God to be blasphemed? When he discredits the doctrine by his works? “And avoid these,” he says. If, then, such people will exist in the later times, how does he say, “And avoid these”? It is likely that even then there were some such people, if not in the extreme form, yet they existed; and in truth he exhorts everyone through Timothy to turn away from such. “For among these,” he says, “are those who creep into houses and take captive silly women laden with sins, led away by various desires, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

2 Tim 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:2 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 6:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 9:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 12:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 27:41 (allusion, medium confidence) · Exod 7:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 5:36 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 8:9 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 2:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 39:6 (38:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 49:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:13 (21:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Jas 2:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 2:24 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: On 2 Tim 3:1–7, Chrysostom shows that falsehood has always stood beside the truth, from the serpent to the antichrist, explains the vices Paul lists, and argues that a “form of godliness” without power is right faith without works, a dead image.

  • Homily 8 on 2 Tim 3:1–7. Chrysostom here comments again on the passage treated in Homily 7. A long run of garbled Latin from Migne's parallel column, inserted by the OCR between “the daughters of” and “men,” is removed by a logged correction. The lemma and the comment on 3:3–4 have lost words in the scan; they are supplied in brackets from Scripture or marked “…”. “Hermogenes and Philetus”: so the text (Hymenaeus and Philetus in 2 Tim 2:17; Hermogenes in 1:15). On faith without works, translated as written.

Notes on the original text

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Topics: Heresy, Eschatology, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Chrysostom, Hom. 2 Tim. 8.1 (PG 62:604; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/chrysostom-hom-2-timotheum/8-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne's Patrologia Graeca 62 (archive.org OCR; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 13.

8.2PG 62:604

Ὁρᾷς αὐτοὺς τῇ τοῦ ἀρκαίου ἀπάτῃ χεχρημένους, τῷ ὅπλῳ, ᾧ ὁ διάδολος κατὰ τοῦ ᾿Αδὰμ ἐχρήσατο; Ἐγνξδύνοντες εἰς τὰς οἰκίας, φησίν. Εἶδες τὸ ἀναίσχυντον πῶς ἐδήλωσε διὰ τοῦ εἰπεῖν, Ἐγδύγοντες; τὸ ἄτιμον, τὴν ἀπάτην, τὴν χολαχείαν; Καὶ αἰχμαιλωείζοντες γυναικάρια. "Ὥστε γυναιχάριον ὁ εὐεξαπάτητος, καὶ ἀνδρὸς πόῤῥω. Γυναιχῶν δὲ τὸ ἀπατᾶσθαι, μᾶλλον δὲ οὐδὲ γυναιχῶν, ἀλλὰ γυναιχαρίων. σθαι, ἀπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν, ἀπὸ τοῦ μηδὲν ἑαυταῖς συνειδέναι χαλόν. Καὶ σφόδρα χυρίως εἶπε, Σεσωρευμένα " τὸ πλῆθος γὰρ τῶν ἀμαρτιῶν διὰ τούτου παρίστησι, καὶ τὸ ἄταχτον καὶ συγχεχυμένον. ᾿Αγόμενα ἐπιθυμίαις ποικίλαις. Οὐ τῆς φύσεως χατηγόρη σεν" οὐ γὰρ ἀπλῶς γυναῖχας εἶπεν, ἀλλὰ τοιάσδε γυναῖχας, Τί ἐστι, Ποικίλλαις; ᾽᾿Ἐνταῦθα πολλὰ ἡνίξατο, τὴν τρυφὴν, τὴν ἀσχημοσύνην, τὴν λαγνείαν. Ποικίλαις, φησὶν, ἐπιθυμίαις, τουτέστι, χρημάτων, δύξης, τρυφῆς, αὐθαδείας, τιμῆς. Ἴσως δὲ καὶ ἐτέρα; αἰσχρὰς ἐπιθυμίας αἰνίττεται. Πάντοτε μανθάψγοντα, καὶ μηδέποτε εἰς ἐπίγνωσιν ἀ θεῖν δυνάμενα. Διὰ τί ταῦτά φησιν; Οὐ συγγινώσχων αὑταῖς, ἀλλὰ καὶ σφόδρα χαταπειλῶν. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ ἑαυτὰ; χατέχωσαν ταῖς ἐπιθυμίαι: ἐχείναις καὶ τοῖς ἀμαρτήμασιν, ἐπωρώθη αὑτῶν ἡ διάνοια. Ὃν τρόπον καὶ οὗτοι ἀγθίστανται τῇ ἀληθείᾳ. Τίνες εἰσὶν οὗτοι οἱ μάγοι οἱ ἐπὶ Μωῦ τέως; πῶς δὲ αὐτῶν τὰ ὀνόματα οὐδαμοῦ ἐμφέρεται ἀλλαχοῦ; Ἢ ἀγράφως παραδέδοται, ἣ ἀπὸ τοῦ Πνεύματος εἰχὸ; ἦν εἰδέναι τὸν Παῦλον. Οὕτω καὶ οὗτοι, φησὶν, ἀγτιστήσονται τῇ ἀληθείᾳ, ἄνθρωποι τὸν γοῦν κατεφρθαρμέγοι κιμοι περὶ τὴν πίστιν" ἀ.1.1.) οὐ προχόψουσιν ἐπὶ πιλεῖον. Ἧ γὰρ ἄνοια αὐτῶν ἔχδηλος ἔσται πᾶσιν, ὡς καὶ. ἡ ἐχείνων ἐγένετο. ᾿Α.1.1 οὐ προχύψοισι, φησί. Πῶς οὖν λέγει ἀλλαχοῦ, ὅτι Προχόψουσιν ἐπὶ πάεῖον ἀσεθείας " ἐνταῦθα δὲ, Οὺ προχόψουσιν; Ἐχεῖ τοῦτό φησιν, ὅτι ἀρχόμενοι χαινοτομεῖν καὶ πλανᾷν, οὐ στήπονται τῆς πλάνης, ἀλλ᾽ ἀεὶ ἐξευρήσουσιν ἀπάτας χαινὰς καὶ δόγματα διεφθαρμένα" καὶ γὰρ ἣἧ πλάνη οὐδαμοῦ ἵσταται. ᾿'Ενταῦθα δὲ τοῦτό φησιν, ὅτι οὐχ ἀπατήσουσιν, οὐδὲ συναρπάτουσι, χἂν παρὰ τὴν ἀρχὴν δόξωσί τινας παραχρούεσθαι, ἀλλ᾽ εὐφώρατοι ταχέως ἔσονται. Ὅτι γὰρ περὶ τούτου φη σὶν, ἄκουσον τί λέγει - Ἡ γὰρ ἄγνοια αὐτῶν ἔσται πᾶσι. Πόθεν; Πανταχόθεν " “Ὥσπερ καὶ ἡ ἐχείγων ἐγένετο. Κἂν γὰρ πρότερον ἀνθήσῃ τὰ τῆς πλάνης, εἰς τέλος οὐ διαμένει. Τοιαῦτα γὰρ τὰ μὴ φύσει καλὰ, ἀλλὰ δοχοῦντα εἶναι χαλά " πρὸς χαιρὸν ἀνθεῖ, καὶ φωρᾶται καὶ ἀπόλλυται. ᾿Αλλ᾽ οὐ τὰ Ὁ ἡμέτερα τοιαῦτά " καὶ τούτων σὺ μάρτυς οὐ γὰρ ἐν ἀπάτῃ τὰ ἡμέτερα " τίς γὰρ ἂν ὑπὲρ ἀπάτης καὶ ἀποθανεῖν ἕλοιτο; Σὺ δὲ παρηκοζούθηκἀάς μου τῇ διδασκαλίᾳ. Ὥστε ἰσχυρὸς ἔσο οὐ γὰρ ἁπλῶς παρἐγένου, ἀλλὰ παρηκολούθηκας. Ἔνταῦθα τὸν χρόνὸν σημαίνει πολὺν γεγενῆσθαι, ἀπὸ τοῦ εἰπεῖν, Παρηχολούθηκας τῇ διδασκαλίᾳ. Τοῦτο περὶ λόγου. Τῇ ἀγωγῇ" τοῦτο περὶ βίου. Τῇ προθέσει " ποῦτο περὶ προθυμίας καὶ τοῦ παραστήματος τῆς Ψυχῆς. Οὐχὶ ἔλεγον μὲν, φησὶ, ταῦτα, οὐκ ἐποίουν δὲ, οὐδὲ ἐν λόγοις μόνον ἐφιλοσόφουν. Τῇ πίστει, τῇ μαχρσ' συμίᾳ. Πῶς οὐδὲν με τούτων, φησὶν, ἑτάραττε. Τῇ ἀγάπῃ " ὅπερ οὖχ εἶχον οὗτοι. Τῇ ὑπομονῇ " ὥσπερ οὐδὲ τοῦτο. Τῇ μαχροθυμίᾳ, φησί. Πρὸς τοὺς αἱρετιχοὺς πολλὴν ἐπεδειχνύμην τὴν μαχροθυμίαν. Τῇ ὑπομονῇ, πρὸς τοὺς διωγμούς. Τοῖς διωγμοῖς » τοῖς παθήμασι: Δύο γὰρ ταῦτα ταράττει τὸν διδάσχαλον, τὸ αἱρετικοὺς εἶναι πολλοὺς, καὶ τὸ μὴ χαρπτερεῖν ἐν τοῖς παθήμασιν. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ὅμως ὑπὲρ τούτων πολλὰ διελέχθη, ὅτι καὶ πάλαι ἦσαν καὶ ἔσονται, καὶ χρόνος οὐδεὶς χαθαρὸς τούτων, καὶ ὅτι ἡμᾶς οὐδὲν βλάψαι δυνήσονται, καὶ ὅτι ἐν τῷ χόσμῳ σχεύη χρυσᾶ καὶ ἀργυρᾶ ἐστιν. Ὁρᾷς λοιπὸν αὐτὸν περὶ τῶν θλίψεων διαλεγόμενον; Οἷα μοι ἐγένδτο ἐν 'Αγτιοχείᾳ, ἐν Ἱκονίῳ, ἐν Λύστροις. Τί δήποτε ταῦτα μόνα εἴρηχεν ἀπὸ πολλῶν; Ἐπειδὴ γνώριμα ἣν τῷ ἀνδρὶ τὰ λοιπά" καὶ ἴσιυς ὡς νεαρῶν τῶν πραγμάτων τούτων μέμνηται, οὐ τῶν πάλαι" καὶ οὐχ ἀπαριθμεῖκαι κατ᾽ εἶδος " οὐ γάρ ἐστι χενόδοξος οὐδὲ φιλότιμος " πρὸς γὰρ παραμυθίαν τοῦ μαθητοῦ, οὐ πρὸς ἐπίδειξιν λέγει. ᾿Αντιόχειαν δὲ τὴν τῆς Πισιδίας ἐνταῦθά φησι, καὶ Λύστραν, ὅθεν ἣν ὁ Τιμόθεος. Οἵους διωμοὺς ὑπέμεινα. ᾿Αμφότερα παρακλήσεως, ὅτι καὶ" ἐγὼ προθυμίαν παρειχόμην γενναίαν, καὶ οὐχ ἔγχατελείφθην, καὶ οὐχ ἔστιν εἰπεῖν, ὅτι προέδωχέ με ὁ Θεὸς, ἀλλὰ τὸν στέφανόν μοι λαμπρότερον εἰργάσατο. Οἴους διωγμοὺς ὑπέμεινα, φησὶ, καὶ ἐκ πάντων μὲ ἐῤῥύσατο ὁ Κύριος. Καὶ πάντες δὲ οἱ θέλοντες εὐσεδῶς ζῇν ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ, διωχθήσονται.

Horąs autous tę̄ tou arkaiou apatę̄ chechrēmenous, tǭ hoplǭ, hǭ ho diadolos kata tou ᾿Adam echrēsato? Egnxdynontes eis tas oikias, phēsin. Eides to anaischynton pōs edēlōse dia tou eipein, Egdygontes? to atimon, tēn apatēn, tēn cholacheian? Kai aichmailōeizontes gynaikaria. "Hōste gynaicharion ho euexapatētos, kai andros porrhō. Gynaichōn de to apatasthai, mallon de oude gynaichōn, alla gynaichariōn. sthai, apo tōn hamartiōn, apo tou mēden heautais syneidenai chalon. Kai sphodra chyriōs eipe, Sesōreumena " to plēthos gar tōn amartiōn dia toutou paristēsi, kai to atachton kai synchechymenon. ᾿Agomena epithymiais poikilais. Ou tēs physeōs chatēgorē sen" ou gar aplōs gynaichas eipen, alla toiasde gynaichas, Ti esti, Poikillais? ᾽᾿Entautha polla hēnixato, tēn tryphēn, tēn aschēmosynēn, tēn lagneian. Poikilais, phēsin, epithymiais, toutesti, chrēmatōn, dyxēs, tryphēs, authadeias, timēs. Isōs de kai etera? aischras epithymias ainittetai. Pantote manthapsgonta, kai mēdepote eis epignōsin a thein dynamena. Dia ti tauta phēsin? Ou synginōschōn hautais, alla kai sphodra chatapeilōn. Epeidē gar heauta? chatechōsan tais epithymiai: echeinais kai tois amartēmasin, epōrōthē hautōn hē dianoia. Hon tropon kai houtoi agthistantai tę̄ alētheią. Tines eisin houtoi hoi magoi hoi epi Mōy teōs? pōs de autōn ta onomata oudamou empheretai allachou? Ē agraphōs paradedotai, hē apo tou Pneumatos eicho? ēn eidenai ton Paulon. Houtō kai houtoi, phēsin, agtistēsontai tę̄ alētheią, anthrōpoi ton goun katephrtharmegoi kimoi peri tēn pistin" a.1.1.) ou prochopsousin epi pileion. Hē gar anoia autōn echdēlos estai pasin, hōs kai. hē echeinōn egeneto. ᾿A.1.1 ou prochypsoisi, phēsi. Pōs oun legei allachou, hoti Prochopsousin epi paeion asetheias " entautha de, Ou prochopsousin? Echei touto phēsin, hoti archomenoi chainotomein kai planąn, ou stēpontai tēs planēs, all᾽ aei exeurēsousin apatas chainas kai dogmata diephtharmena" kai gar hēē planē oudamou histatai. ᾿'Entautha de touto phēsin, hoti ouch apatēsousin, oude synarpatousi, chan para tēn archēn doxōsi tinas parachrouesthai, all᾽ euphōratoi tacheōs esontai. Hoti gar peri toutou phē sin, akouson ti legei - Hē gar agnoia autōn estai pasi. Pothen? Pantachothen " “Hōsper kai hē echeigōn egeneto. Kan gar proteron anthēsę̄ ta tēs planēs, eis telos ou diamenei. Toiauta gar ta mē physei kala, alla dochounta einai chala " pros chairon anthei, kai phōratai kai apollytai. ᾿All᾽ ou ta Ho hēmetera toiauta " kai toutōn sy martys ou gar en apatę̄ ta hēmetera " tis gar an hyper apatēs kai apothanein heloito? Sy de parēkozouthēkaas mou tę̄ didaskalią. Hōste ischyros eso ou gar haplōs paregenou, alla parēkolouthēkas. Entautha ton chronon sēmainei polyn gegenēsthai, apo tou eipein, Parēcholouthēkas tę̄ didaskalią. Touto peri logou. Tę̄ agōgę̄" touto peri biou. Tę̄ prothesei " pouto peri prothymias kai tou parastēmatos tēs Psychēs. Ouchi elegon men, phēsi, tauta, ouk epoioun de, oude en logois monon ephilosophoun. Tę̄ pistei, tę̄ machrs' symią. Pōs ouden me toutōn, phēsin, hetaratte. Tę̄ agapę̄ " hoper ouch eichon houtoi. Tę̄ hypomonę̄ " hōsper oude touto. Tę̄ machrothymią, phēsi. Pros tous hairetichous pollēn epedeichnymēn tēn machrothymian. Tę̄ hypomonę̄, pros tous diōgmous. Tois diōgmois » tois pathēmasi: Dyo gar tauta tarattei ton didaschalon, to hairetikous einai pollous, kai to mē charpterein en tois pathēmasin. ᾿All᾽ homōs hyper toutōn polla dielechthē, hoti kai palai ēsan kai esontai, kai chronos oudeis chatharos toutōn, kai hoti hēmas ouden blapsai dynēsontai, kai hoti en tǭ chosmǭ scheuē chrysa kai argyra estin. Horąs loipon auton peri tōn thlipseōn dialegomenon? Hoia moi egendto en 'Agtiocheią, en Hikoniǭ, en Lystrois. Ti dēpote tauta mona eirēchen apo pollōn? Epeidē gnōrima hēn tǭ andri ta loipa" kai isiys hōs nearōn tōn pragmatōn toutōn memnētai, ou tōn palai" kai ouch aparithmeikai kat᾽ eidos " ou gar esti chenodoxos oude philotimos " pros gar paramythian tou mathētou, ou pros epideixin legei. ᾿Antiocheian de tēn tēs Pisidias entautha phēsi, kai Lystran, hothen hēn ho Timotheos. Hoious diōmous hypemeina. ᾿Amphotera paraklēseōs, hoti kai" egō prothymian pareichomēn gennaian, kai ouch enchateleiphthēn, kai ouch estin eipein, hoti proedōche me ho Theos, alla ton stephanon moi lamproteron eirgasato. Oious diōgmous hypemeina, phēsi, kai ek pantōn me errhysato ho Kyrios. Kai pantes de hoi thelontes eusedōs zę̄n en Christǭ Iēsou, diōchthēsontai.

Do you see them using the ancient deceit, the weapon the devil used against Adam? “Creeping into houses,” he says. Do you see how by saying “creeping in” he showed their shamelessness, their dishonour, their deceit, their flattery? “And taking captive silly women.” So whoever is easily deceived is a “silly woman” and far from being a man. Being deceived belongs to women, or rather not even to women, but to silly women … from their sins, from being conscious of no good in themselves. And he said very aptly “laden”: for by this he presents the multitude of their sins, and their disorder and confusion. “Led away by various desires.” He did not accuse their nature; for he did not simply say “women,” but women of a certain kind. What does “various” mean? Here he hinted at much: luxury, indecency, lust. “By various desires,” he says, that is, for money, glory, luxury, self-will, honour. Perhaps he is also hinting at other, shameful desires. “Always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” Why does he say this? Not to excuse them, but rather to threaten them severely. For since they had buried themselves in those desires and sins, their mind was hardened. “Just as [Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses], so these too oppose the truth.” Who are these magicians in Moses' time? And how is it that their names are not given anywhere else? Either they were handed down unwritten, or it is likely that Paul knew them from the Spirit. “So these too,” he says, “oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind, disqualified regarding the faith; but they will not advance further, for their folly will be plain to all, as theirs was.” “But they will not advance,” he says. How then does he say elsewhere, “They will advance further in ungodliness,” but here, “They will not advance”? There he means that once they begin to innovate and lead astray, they will not stop in their error, but will always invent new deceits and corrupt doctrines; for error stops nowhere. But here he means that they will not deceive or carry people off, even if at the beginning they seem to lead some astray, but will quickly be found out. That this is what he means, hear what he says: “For their folly will be plain to all.” How? From every side. “As theirs was.” For even if error blooms at first, it does not last to the end. Such are the things that are not good by nature but only seem good: they bloom for a time, and are found out, and perish. But our things are not such—and you are a witness of them; for our things are not founded on deceit; for who would choose even to die for a deceit? “But you have followed my teaching.” So be strong; for you were not simply present, but have followed closely. Here, by saying, “You have followed my teaching,” he indicates that a long time had passed. This concerns his word. “My conduct”: this concerns his life. “My purpose”: this concerns his eagerness and the resolve of his soul. I did not say these things and fail to do them, he says, nor did I practise philosophy in words only. “My faith, my patience”: how none of these things troubled me, he says. “My love,” which these men did not have. “My endurance,” which they did not have either. “My patience,” he says: I showed great patience toward the heretics. “My endurance”: toward the persecutions. “My persecutions, my sufferings.” For these two things trouble the teacher: that the heretics are many, and that people do not hold out under sufferings. But nevertheless he has spoken at length about these: that they existed of old and will exist, and no time is free of them; that they will be able to do us no harm; and that in the world there are vessels of gold and silver. Do you see him now speaking about afflictions? “What happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra.” Why did he mention only these out of many? Because the others were known to Timothy; and perhaps he mentions these as recent, not those of long ago; and he does not list them in detail, for he is not vainglorious or ambitious; he speaks to console the disciple, not to show off. By Antioch he means here Antioch in Pisidia, and Lystra, which was Timothy's home town. “What persecutions I endured.” Both are for encouragement: that I too showed noble eagerness and was not abandoned; one cannot say that God betrayed me; rather, he made my crown more brilliant. “What persecutions I endured,” he says, “and from them all the Lord rescued me. And all who wish to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.”

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Gen 3:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Tim 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 7:11 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:10 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 13:50 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 14:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 14:19 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 16:1 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Chrysostom explains the “silly women” led astray by the false teachers, the magicians Jannes and Jambres, how error is soon exposed though it keeps inventing new doctrines, and how Paul's teaching, life and endurance of persecutions at Antioch, Iconium and Lystra should encourage Timothy.

  • Homily 8 continued (2 Tim 3:6–12). Words are lost in the scan after “but to silly women” (marked “…”) and in the lemma 3:8 (supplied in brackets). “Silly women” translates γυναικάρια (“little women”); Chrysostom applies the word to anyone easily deceived, and adds that Paul “did not accuse their nature.” On the names Jannes and Jambres, Chrysostom suggests unwritten tradition or revelation; they are known from Jewish tradition (see the extrabiblical tag).

Extrabiblical texts: Jan. Jam. (Jannes and Jambres; allusion)

Topics: Heresy, Persecution

Cite (SBL): Chrysostom, Hom. 2 Tim. 8.2 (PG 62:604; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/chrysostom-hom-2-timotheum/8-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne's Patrologia Graeca 62 (archive.org OCR; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 13.

8.3PG 62:604

Τί δὲ ὅλως λέγω περὶ ἐμαυτοῦ, φησίν; ἔχαστος τῶν θελόντων ζῇν εὐσεδῶς, διωχθήσεται. Διωγμοὺς ἐνταῦθά φησι τὰς θλίψεις, τὰς ὀδύνας, Καὶ γὰρ οὐχ ἔνι ἄνδρα τὴν τῆς ἀρετῆς ὁδὸν ὀδεύοντα λύπης εἶναι χωρὶς, θλίψεως, ὀδύνης, πειρασμῶν - πῶς γὰρ, ὁ τενὴν καὶ τεθλιμμένην ὁδεύων ὁδόν; ὁ ἀχούσας, ὅτι ᾽ν τῷ κόσμῳ θάᾶϊψιν ἕξετε; Ἐὶ ἐν ἐχείνῳ τῷ χρόνῳ ἔλεγεν ὁ Ἰὼδ, Πειρατήριον ὁ βίος ἀνθρώπου ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, πόσῳ μᾶλλον τότε; Πογηροὶ δὲ ἄνθρωποι καὶ γόητες, φησὶ, προκόψοισιν ἐπὶ τὸ χεῖρον", πιλαγῶντες καὶ πλανώμενοι. Μηδέν σε θορυθείτω τούτων, φησὶν, εἰ ἐχεῖνο: μὲν ἐν εὐθηνίᾳ, σὺ δὲ ἐν πειρασμοῖς" τοιαύτη τοῦ πράγματος ἡ φύσις ἐστίν. Ἐχ τῶν ἐμῶν δύνασαι μαθεῖν, ὅτι οὐκ ἕνι ἄνδρα πολεμοῦντα τοῖς πονηροῖς μὴ εἶναι ἐν θλίψει. Οὐχ ἔστι πυχτεύοντα ἐν τρυφῇ εἶναι, οὐκ ἔστι παλαίοντα εὐ-ὠχεῖσθαι, Μηδεὶς τοίνυν τῶν ἀθλούντων ἄνεσιν ζητείτῷ, μηδεὶς ἐν εὐθυμία εἶναι. Πάλιν τὰ παρόντα ἀγὼν, πόλεμος, θλίψις, στενοχωρία, πειρατήριον, τῶν ἀγώνῶν τὸ στάδιον. Ἕτεροι τῆς ἀνέσεως οἱ χαιροί" οὗτος τῶν ἱδρώτων, οὗτος τῶν πόνων ὁ καιρός. Οὐδεὶς ἀποδυσάμενος καὶ ἀλειψάμενος ἄνεσιν ἐπιζητεῖ, Εἰ δὲ ἄνεσιν ἐπιζητεῖς, τί ἀπεδύσω; τί τὰς χεῖρας ἀντῆρας" Καὶ πῶς οὐχ ἀνταίρω, φησὶ, νῦν; Ὅταν τῶν ἐπιθυμιῶν μὴ κρατῇς, ὅταν πρὸς τὴν βίαν τῆς φύσεως μὴ μάχῃ. Σὺ δὲ, μένε ἐν οἷς ἔμαθες καὶ ἐπιστώθης, εἰδὼς πωρὰ τίνος ἔμαθες, καὶ ὅτι ἀπὸ βρέξους τὰ ἱερὰ γράμματα οἶδας τὰ δυνγάμεγά σε σοφίσαι εἰς σωτηρίαν, διὰ πίστεως τῆς ἐν Χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ. Τί ἔστι τοῦτο; Καθάπερ ὁ προφήτης Δαυὶδ παρῇνεσε, Μὴ παραζήλου, εἰπὼν, ἐν πονηρευομένοις, τοῦτο καὶ αὐτὸς παραινεῖ λέγων" Σὺ δὲ, μένε ἐν’ οἷς ἔμαθες καὶ ἐπιστώθης. Οὐχ ἁπλῶς. Ἔμαθες. ἀλλὰ καὶ, "Επιστώθης, τουτέστιν, Ἐπίστευσας. Τί δαὶ καὶ ἐπίστευσα; Ὅτι αὕτη ἐστὶν ἡ ζωή. Κἂν ἐναντία τοίνυν ὁρᾷς ἐνταῦθα ὧν ἐπίστευτας, μὴ θορυθοῦ, ἐπεὶ καὶ ὁ ᾿Αδραὰμ ἐναντία ἑώρα, ἀλλ᾽ οὐδὲν ἔπαθεν ἤχουσεν, ὅτι Ἔν Ἰσαὰκ κληθήσεταί σοι σπέρμα, καὶ τὸν Ἰσαὰκ σφάξαι ἐχελεύετο, καὶ οὐχ ἐθορυδεῖτο οὐδὲ ἐταράττετο. Μηδεὶς σχανδαλιζέσθω ἐπι τοῖς πονηροῖς" τοῦτο ἄνωθεν εἶπεν ἡ Γραφή. Τί οὖν, ὅταν καὶ ἀγαθοὶ εὐφραίνωνται, καὶ πονηρθὶ χολάζωνται; Τὸ μὲν ἕτερον εἰχὸς γενέσθαι, τὸ δὲ ἄλλο οὐχέτι" πονηροὺς μὲν γὰρ κολάζεσθαι ἕνι, ἀγαθοὺς δὲ εὑφραίνεσθαι ἀεὶ οὐχ ἕν:. Οὐδεὶς Παύλου ἴσος ἦν, ἀλλ᾽ ὅμως ἐν θλίψει τὸν πάντα διῆγε χρόνον, ἐν δάκρυσιν, ἐν στεναγμοῖς νυχτὸς καὶ ἡμέρας. Μετὰ δακρύων γὰρ, ἐπαυσάμην" καὶ πάλιν, Ἡ ἐπισύστασίς μον ἡ καί! ἡμέραν, φησίν. Οὐ σήμερον μὲν ἔχαιρεν, αὔριον ἐξ ἤλγει, ἀλλὰ καθ᾽ ἡμέραν οὐ διελέμπανεν Πῶς οὖν φησι, Πονηροὶ προκόψουσιν ἐπὶ τὸ χεῖρον; Οὐχ εἶπεν, ὅτι ἀνέσεως τυγχάνουσιν, ἀλλ᾽, Ἐπὶ τὸ χεῖρον προκόψουσιν" εἰς τὸ χεῖρον ἡ προχοπὴ αὕτη. Οὐχ εἴπεν, Ἐν εὐθηνίᾳ ἔσονται. Εἰ δὲ καὶ χολάξονται, διὰ τοῦτο χολάζονται, ἵνα μὴ νομίσῃς ἀτιμώρῆτα εἶναι τὰ ἁμαρτήματα. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ ἡ γέεννα οὐχ ἰσχύει κωλῦσαι ἡμᾶς τῆς κακίας » φειδόμενος ἡμῶν διυπνίζει καὶ διανίστησιν ἡμᾶς. Εἰ μηδεὶς πονηρὸς ἐχολάξετο, οὐδεὶς ἂν ἐνόμιζεν ἐφεστάναι τὺν Θεὸν τοῖς ἀνθρωπίνους πράγμασιν" εἰ πάντες ἐχολάζοντο, οὐδεὶς ἂν προδεδόχησεν ἔσεσθαι Διὰ τοῦτο καὶ κολάζει, καὶ οὐ χολάζει" διὰ τοῦτο ἐνταῦθα δίκαιοι θλίδονται, ὅτι πάροιχοΐ εἶτιν, ὅτι ξένοι, ὅτι ἐν ἀλλοτρίᾳ εἰσίν. Οἱ δίκαιοι τοίνυν δοχιμῆς ἕνεχεν ταῦτα ὑπομένουσιν " ἄκουε γὰρ τοῦ θεοῦ λέγοντος πρὸς τὸν Ἰὼδ, Οἴει με ἄλλως σοι κεχρηματικέγαι, ἣ ἵνα ἀναφανῇς δίκαιος; Οἱ δὲ ἁμαρτωλοὶ ἐὰν καί ποτέ τι τοιοῦτον ὑπομείνωσι, δίχην τιννύουσι τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν. Ἐν πᾶσι τοίνυν εὐχαριστῶμὲν τῷ θεῷ, εἴτε οὕτως, εἴτε ἐχείνως " ἀμφότερα γὰρ χρήσιμα, Οὐδὲν μισῶν, οὐδὲ ἀποστρεφόμενος; ἡμᾶς ποιεῖ, ἀλλ᾽ ἀμφότερα φροντίζων καὶ χηδόμενος. Εἰδὼς, φησὶν, ὅτι ἀπὸ βρέφους τὰ ἱερὰ γράμματα οἶδας. Τουτέστιν, 'Ἐκ πρώτης ἡλικίας τὰ ἱερὰ γράμματα ἔμαθες. Ἱερὰ δὲ γράμματα τὰς θεία; χαλεῖ ραφάς. Ἐν ταύταις ἀνετράφης, ὥστε καὶ διὰ τούτων στερεὰν εἶναί σοι τὴν πίστιν χρὴ, καὶ μηδὲν παραθδλάπτεσθαι. Κατὰ βάθους γὰρ ἡ ῥίζα χεῖτα!, οὐ χρόνῳ τραφεῖσα πολλῷ" οὐδὲν αὐτὴν παρατρέψα: δύναται. Εἰπὼν δὲ, Τὰ ἱερὰ γράμματα, ἐπήγαγες, Τὰ δυνάμενά σε σοφρίσαι" τουτέστιν, Οὐκ ἀφιᾶσιν ἀνόητόν τι παθεῖν, καὶ οἷον οἱ πολλοί,

Ti de holōs legō peri emautou, phēsin? echastos tōn thelontōn zę̄n eusedōs, diōchthēsetai. Diōgmous entautha phēsi tas thlipseis, tas odynas, Kai gar ouch eni andra tēn tēs aretēs hodon odeuonta lypēs einai chōris, thlipseōs, odynēs, peirasmōn - pōs gar, ho tenēn kai tethlimmenēn hodeuōn hodon? ho achousas, hoti ᾽n tǭ kosmǭ thaaïpsin hexete? Ei en echeinǭ tǭ chronǭ elegen ho Iōd, Peiratērion ho bios anthrōpou epi tēs gēs, posǭ mallon tote? Pogēroi de anthrōpoi kai goētes, phēsi, prokopsoisin epi to cheiron", pilagōntes kai planōmenoi. Mēden se thorytheitō toutōn, phēsin, ei echeino: men en euthēnią, sy de en peirasmois" toiautē tou pragmatos hē physis estin. Ech tōn emōn dynasai mathein, hoti ouk heni andra polemounta tois ponērois mē einai en thlipsei. Ouch esti pychteuonta en tryphę̄ einai, ouk esti palaionta eu-ōcheisthai, Mēdeis toinyn tōn athlountōn anesin zēteitǭ, mēdeis en euthymia einai. Palin ta paronta agōn, polemos, thlipsis, stenochōria, peiratērion, tōn agōnōn to stadion. Heteroi tēs aneseōs hoi chairoi" houtos tōn hidrōtōn, houtos tōn ponōn ho kairos. Oudeis apodysamenos kai aleipsamenos anesin epizētei, Ei de anesin epizēteis, ti apedysō? ti tas cheiras antēras" Kai pōs ouch antairō, phēsi, nyn? Hotan tōn epithymiōn mē kratę̄s, hotan pros tēn bian tēs physeōs mē machę̄. Sy de, mene en hois emathes kai epistōthēs, eidōs pōra tinos emathes, kai hoti apo brexous ta hiera grammata oidas ta dyngamega se sophisai eis sōtērian, dia pisteōs tēs en Christǭ Iēsou. Ti esti touto? Kathaper ho prophētēs Dauid parę̄nese, Mē parazēlou, eipōn, en ponēreuomenois, touto kai autos parainei legōn" Sy de, mene en’ hois emathes kai epistōthēs. Ouch haplōs. Emathes. alla kai, "Epistōthēs, toutestin, Episteusas. Ti dai kai episteusa? Hoti hautē estin hē zōē. Kan enantia toinyn horąs entautha hōn episteutas, mē thorythou, epei kai ho ᾿Adraam enantia heōra, all᾽ ouden epathen ēchousen, hoti En Isaak klēthēsetai soi sperma, kai ton Isaak sphaxai echeleueto, kai ouch ethorydeito oude etaratteto. Mēdeis schandalizesthō epi tois ponērois" touto anōthen eipen hē Graphē. Ti oun, hotan kai agathoi euphrainōntai, kai ponērthi cholazōntai? To men heteron eichos genesthai, to de allo oucheti" ponērous men gar kolazesthai heni, agathous de heuphrainesthai aei ouch hen:. Oudeis Paulou isos ēn, all᾽ homōs en thlipsei ton panta diēge chronon, en dakrysin, en stenagmois nychtos kai hēmeras. Meta dakryōn gar, epausamēn" kai palin, Hē episystasis mon hē kai! hēmeran, phēsin. Ou sēmeron men echairen, aurion ex ēlgei, alla kath᾽ hēmeran ou dielempanen Pōs oun phēsi, Ponēroi prokopsousin epi to cheiron? Ouch eipen, hoti aneseōs tynchanousin, all᾽, Epi to cheiron prokopsousin" eis to cheiron hē prochopē hautē. Ouch eipen, En euthēnią esontai. Ei de kai cholaxontai, dia touto cholazontai, hina mē nomisę̄s atimōrēta einai ta hamartēmata. Epeidē gar hē geenna ouch ischyei kōlysai hēmas tēs kakias » pheidomenos hēmōn diypnizei kai dianistēsin hēmas. Ei mēdeis ponēros echolaxeto, oudeis an enomizen ephestanai tyn Theon tois anthrōpinous pragmasin" ei pantes echolazonto, oudeis an prodedochēsen esesthai Dia touto kai kolazei, kai ou cholazei" dia touto entautha dikaioi thlidontai, hoti paroichoï eitin, hoti xenoi, hoti en allotrią eisin. Hoi dikaioi toinyn dochimēs henechen tauta hypomenousin " akoue gar tou theou legontos pros ton Iōd, Oiei me allōs soi kechrēmatikegai, hē hina anaphanę̄s dikaios? Hoi de hamartōloi ean kai pote ti toiouton hypomeinōsi, dichēn tinnyousi tōn hamartiōn. En pasi toinyn eucharistōmen tǭ theǭ, eite houtōs, eite echeinōs " amphotera gar chrēsima, Ouden misōn, oude apostrephomenos? hēmas poiei, all᾽ amphotera phrontizōn kai chēdomenos. Eidōs, phēsin, hoti apo brephous ta hiera grammata oidas. Toutestin, 'Ek prōtēs hēlikias ta hiera grammata emathes. Hiera de grammata tas theia? chalei raphas. En tautais anetraphēs, hōste kai dia toutōn sterean einai soi tēn pistin chrē, kai mēden parathdlaptesthai. Kata bathous gar hē rhiza cheita!, ou chronǭ trapheisa pollǭ" ouden autēn paratrepsa: dynatai. Eipōn de, Ta hiera grammata, epēgages, Ta dynamena se sophrisai" toutestin, Ouk aphiasin anoēton ti pathein, kai hoion hoi polloi,

Why do I speak about myself at all, he says? Everyone who wishes to live godly will be persecuted. By persecutions here he means afflictions and pains. For it is not possible for a man travelling the road of virtue to be without grief, affliction, pain and trials. How could he be, when he travels the narrow and hard-pressed road, when he has heard, “In the world you will have affliction”? If in that ancient time Job said, “The life of man on earth is a trial,” how much more then? “But wicked men and impostors,” he says, “will advance to worse, deceiving and being deceived.” Let none of these things trouble you, he says, if they are in prosperity and you in trials; such is the nature of the matter. From my own case you can learn that it is not possible for a man fighting the wicked not to be in affliction. One who boxes cannot live in luxury; one who wrestles cannot feast. Let none of those in the contest, then, look for ease, none for good cheer. Again, the present is a contest, a war, affliction, distress, trial, the stadium of the contests. The times of ease are different; this is the time of sweat, this the time of labours. No one who has stripped and oiled himself looks for ease. And if you are looking for ease, why did you strip? Why did you raise your hands? “And how am I not raising them now?” someone says. When you do not master your desires, when you do not fight against the violence of nature. “But you, continue in what you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you learned it, and that from infancy you have known the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.” What is this? As the prophet David advised, saying, “Do not envy evildoers,” so he too advises, saying, “But you, continue in what you have learned and been assured of.” Not simply “you have learned,” but also “been assured of,” that is, you have believed. And what have I believed? That this is life. Even if, then, you see here things contrary to what you have believed, do not be troubled, since Abraham too saw things contrary, but suffered nothing: he heard, “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named,” and was ordered to slaughter Isaac, and he was not troubled or disturbed. Let no one be scandalized at the wicked; Scripture said this from of old. What, then, when the good also rejoice and the wicked are punished? The one is likely to happen, but the other no longer; for it is possible for the wicked to be punished, but not for the good always to rejoice. No one was equal to Paul, yet he spent all his time in affliction, in tears, in groans night and day. “For with tears [I did not] cease”; and again, “the pressure on me every day,” he says. He did not rejoice today and grieve tomorrow, but every day, without a break. How then does he say, “Wicked men will advance to worse”? He did not say that they obtain ease, but “they will advance to worse”: this advance is toward the worse. He did not say, “They will be in prosperity.” And if they are punished, they are punished so that you may not think that sins go unpunished. For since hell is not strong enough to keep us from wickedness, he spares us and wakes us up and rouses us. If no wicked man were punished, no one would have thought that God watches over human affairs; if all were punished, no one would have expected [the judgment] to come. That is why he both punishes and does not punish; that is why the righteous are afflicted here: because they are sojourners, because they are strangers, because they are in a foreign land. The righteous, then, endure these things for their testing; for hear God saying to Job, “Do you think I have dealt with you for any other reason than that you might be shown to be righteous?” But sinners, if they ever endure anything of the kind, pay the penalty for their sins. In all things, then, let us give thanks to God, whether it is so or otherwise; for both are useful. He does nothing to us from hatred or aversion, but both from care and concern. “Knowing,” he says, “that from infancy you have known the sacred writings”: that is, from your earliest age you learned the sacred writings. He calls the divine Scriptures “sacred writings.” In these you were brought up, so that through them your faith ought to be firm and suffer no harm. For the root lies deep, nourished for a long time; nothing can turn it aside. Having said, “the sacred writings,” he added, “which are able to make you wise,” that is, they do not let you suffer anything foolish, as the many do …

2 Tim 3:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 7:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 3:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 37:1 (36:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 21:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 22:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 20:31 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 11:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 11:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 40:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Thess 5:18 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: On 2 Tim 3:12–15, Chrysostom teaches that the life of virtue is a contest that always brings affliction, explains why God punishes some wicked men in this life and not others, and praises the Scriptures Timothy learned from infancy as the root of firm faith.

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Notes on the original text

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Topics: Persecution, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Chrysostom, Hom. 2 Tim. 8.3 (PG 62:604; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/chrysostom-hom-2-timotheum/8-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne's Patrologia Graeca 62 (archive.org OCR; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 13.

8.4PG 62:604

Ὁ γὰρ τὰς Γραφὰς εἰδὼς, ὡς εἰδέναι χρὴ, οὐδενὶ τῶν γινομένων σχανδαλίζεται, πάντα φέρει γενναίως, τὰ μὲν τῇ πίστει ἐπιτρέπων καὶ τῷ ἀκαταλήπτῳ τῆς τοῦ Θεοῦ οἰχονομίας, τῶν δὲ καὶ λόγους εἰδὼς, καὶ παραδείγματα εὑρίσχων ἐν ταῖς Γραφαῖς. Ἐπεὶ καὶ τὸ μὴ πάντα περιεργάζεσθαι, καὶ τὸ μὴ πάντα θέλειν εἰδέναι, μέγα τοῦ εἰδέναι τεχμήριον. Καὶ εἰ βούλεσθε, ἐπὶ παραδείγματος ἐρῶ" “Ἔστω ποταμὸς, μᾶλλον δὲ ἔστωσαν ποταμοὶ (οὐ κατὰ συγχώρησιν λέγω, ἀλλ' ὅπερ εἰσὶν οἱ ποταμοῦ" 6 οὐ πάντες χατὰ βάθος ἴσοι τυγχάνουσιν, ἀλλ᾽ οἱ μὲν ψιλότερον τὸ ἔδαφος ἔχοντες, ἕτεροι βαθὺ καὶ ἱκανὸν ἀποπνίξαι τὸν ἀγνοοῦντα" καὶ ἐνταῦθα μὲν ἴλιγγοι, ἐχεῖ δὲ οὐχέτι. Τὸ οὖν μὴ θέλειν πᾶσιν ὁμοίως ἐπιχειρεῖν, χαλὸν, καὶ τὸ μὴ θέλειν πάντα τὰ βάθη εἰδέναι, οὐ μιχρὸν τοῦ εἰδέναι τεχμήριον" ὡς ὅ γε βουλόμενος παντὸς ποῦ μέρους τοῦ ποταμοῦ χατατολμᾷν, οὗτος μάλιστα οὐκ οἷδε τῶν ποταμῶν τὰ ἰδιώματα, καὶ ἀπολεῖται πολλάχις ἀπὸ τῆς αὐτῆς θρασύτητος τοῦ βάθους χατατολμήσας, ἀφ᾽ ἧς διέδαινε τὸ μὴ βαθύ. Οὕτω καὶ ἐπὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ὁ πάντα θέλων εἰδέναι, καὶ πάντων κατατολμῶν, οὗτος οὖχκ οἷδε μάλιστα τί ἐστι Θεός. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐν μὲν τοῖς ποταμοῖς τὸ μὲν πλέον μέρος ἀσφαλὲς, ὀλίγοι δὲ Ὠτγγοι καὶ βάθη " ἐπὶ δὲ τοῦ Θεοῦ τὸ πλέον ἐν ἀποχρύφοις, καὶ οὐχ ἔστιν ἐξιχνιάσαι τὰ ἔργα αὑτοῦ. Τί τοίνυν βιάζῃ χαταποντίσαι σαυτόν; Τοῦτο μόνον ἴσθι, ὅτι πάντα ὁ Θεὸς οἰχονομεῖ, ὅτι πάντων προνοεῖ, ὅτι αὐτεξούσιοί ἐσμεν, ὅτι τὰ μὲν ἐνεργεῖ, τὰ δὲ συγχωρεῖ, ὅτι οὐδὲν πονηρὸν γίνεσθαι βούλεται, ὅτι οὐχ ἀπὸ τοῦ βουλήματος αὑτοῦ πάντα γίνεται, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀπὸ τοῦ ἡμετέρον, πάντα τὰ χαχὰ ἀπὸ τοῦ ἡ κετέρου μόνον, πάντα τὰ ἀγαῆὰ ἀπό τε τοῦ ἡμετέρου καὶ τῆς αὐτοῦ ῥοπῆς, ὅτι οὐδὲν αὐτὸν λανθάνει. Διὰ τοῦτο πάντα ἐνεργεῖ. Εἶτα σὺ τοῦτο εἰδὼς, ἀρίθμει τένα μὲν τὰ ἀγαθὰ, τίνα δὲ τὰ χαχὰ, καὶ τίνα τὰ ἀδιάφορα " οἷον, ἀγαθὸν ἡ ἀρετὴ, καχὸν ἡ φαυλότης, ἀδιάφορα πλοῦτος, πενία, ζωὴ, θάνατος. Ἂν ταῦτα εἰδῇς, εἴσῃ καὶ μετὰ τούτων, ὅτι οἱ δίκαιοι διὰ τοῦτο θλίόονται, ἵνα στεφανωθῶσιν, οἱ ἀμαρτωλοὶ, ἵνα τῶν ἁμαρτιῶν δίκην ἐχτίσωσιν " οὐ πάντες δὲ οἱ ἁμαρτωλοὶ δέκην ἐνταῦθα τίνουσιν, ἵνα μὴ τῇ ἀναστάσει οἱ πολλοὶ ἀπιστῶσιν, ὥσπερ οὐ πάντες οἱ δίκαιοι θλίδονται, ἵνα μὴ τὴν καχίαν ἐπαινετὴν εἶναι νομίσῃς, ἀλλὰ τὴν ἀρετήν. Οὗτοι κανόνες. εἰσὶ, καὶ ὅροι " ὃ βούλει ἄγε ἐπ᾽ αὐτοὺς, καὶ οὐ διαπορήσεις. “Ὥσπερ γάρ ἔστι παρὰ τοῖς γραμματισταῖς ὁ τῶν ἑξακισχιλίων ἀριθμὸς, καὶ ὑπὸ τοῦτον ἅπαντα ἄγεται, καὶ πάντα μερίζειν καὶ πολυπλασιάζειν δυνατὸν ἐν τῷ κανόνι τῶν ἑξαχισχιλίων, καὶ διὰ τοῦ ἀριθμοῦ τούτου πάντα στρέφεται, καὶ ἴσασι ταῦτα ὅσοι γράμματα μεμαθήκασιν - οὕτω τοὺς χανόνας τούτους, οὖς πάλιν ἐρῶ συντομώτερον, ἄν τῖς εἰδῇ, οὐδέποτε σχανδαλίζεται. Τίνες οὖν εἰσιν οὗτοι; “Ὅτι ἀγαθὸν ἀρετὴ, ὅτι φαῦλον χαχία, ὅτι ἀδιάφορα νόσοι, πενία, ἐπιδουλαὶ, συκοφαντίαι, καὶ ὅτα τοιαῦτα" ὅτ: οἱ δίχαιοι θλέδονται ἐνθάδε " εἰ δέ τινες καὶ εὖ πάσχουσιν, ἵνα μὴ ἡ ἀρετὴ δόξῃ μισητὴ εἶνα:" ὅτι οἱ τῶν ποταμῶν Ὰ πάντες ἶσοι βμω, δ ὐτὰ οἱ μὲν ἀπῖπος αιότερον τι ος ἔχοντες, οἱ δὲ οὕτω βαθὺ ὡς ἱχανὸν εἶναι ἀποπνίξαι τὸν ἀγνοοῦντα καὶ ἐνταῦθα μὲν ἴλιγγοι, ἐκεῖ δὲ οὐχέτι᾽ οὕτω καὶ περὶ τῶν τοῦ Θεοῦ ζητημάτων τὰ μὲν τοιαῦτά ἐστιν ὡς αὐτόθεν τὴν λύσιν παριστᾷν τοῖς ζητοῦσι, τὰ δὲ οὕτως ὀπόῤῥητα καὶ ἀπόχρυφα, ὡς καὶ ἀπολλύναι ποιεῖν τοὺς περιεργότερον μαθεῖν τι φιλονειχοῦντας" καθάπερ οὖν τὸ μὴ Ειν.... ᾿ πονηροὶ εὐφραίνονται, ἵνα ἐχεῖ χολασθῶσιν᾽ εἰ δὲ τινες καὶ χολάζονται, ὥστε μὴ τὴν καχίαν δόξαι εἶναι χαλὸν, μηδὲ ἀτιμώρητα τὰ πράγματα " ὅτι οὐ χολάζονται πάντες, ἵνα μὴ τῆς ἀναστάσεως ὁ καιρὸς διαπιστηθῇ ᾿ ὅτι καὶ τῶν ἀγαθῶν εἰσί τινες οἱ φαῦλα ἔχοντες ἔργα, καὶ ἐνταῦθα αὐτὰ ἀποτίθενται, καὶ τῶν πονηρῶν οἱ χρηστὰ ἔχοντες, καὶ ἐνταῦθα ἀπολαμδάνουσιν, ἵνα ἐκεῖ τιμωρηθῶσιν " ὅτι ἀχατάληπτα τὰ πλείονα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἔργα᾽ ὅτι πολὺ τὸ μέσον ἡμῶν καὶ αὐτοῦ, καὶ ὅσον οὐχ ἔστιν εἰπεῖν. ᾽ν ταῦτα ἀναλογιζώμεθα, οὐδὲν ἡμᾶς θορυδῆσαι δυνήσεται. "ἂν τῶν Γραφῶν ἀχούωμεν συνεχῶς, εὑρήσομεν καὶ παραδείγματα τοιαῦτα πολλά᾽ Τὰ δυνάμενά σε, φησὶ, σοφίσαι εἰς σωτηρίαν. Καὶ γὰρ τὰ πρακτέα ὑποτίθενκαι αἱ Γραφαὶ, καὶ τὰ μὴ πραχτέα" ἄχουε γὰρ τοῦ μαχαρίου τούτον ἀλλαχοῦ λέγοντος, Πέποιθας σδαυτὸν ὁδηγὸν εἶναι τυρλῶν, φῶς τῶν ἐν σχότει, παιδευτὴν ἀφρόνων, διδάσχαλον νηπίων. Ὁρᾷς ὅτι φῶς τῶν ἐν σχότει ὁ νόμος; Εἰ δὲ ὁ τὸ γράμμα δεικνὺς φῶς, τὸ γράμμα τὸ ᾿ἀποχτεῖνον, τί ἄρα ὁ τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ζωοποιοῦν; εἰ ἡ Παλαιὰ φῶς, τί ἡ Καινὴ. ἔνθα τοσαῦτα ἀνεπετάσθη; ἔνθα τοσοῦτόν ἐστι τὸ μέσον, ὅσον εἰ τοῖς οὐδὲν πλέον τῆς γῆς εἰδόσι τὸν οὐ- Περὶ γεέννης ἐμάθομεν, περὶ βασιλείας, περὶ κρίσεωξ. Μὴ πιστεύωμεν ἀλόγοις πράγματι " γοητεία πάντα ἐχεῖνα. Τί οὖν ὅτι λέγουσι, φησὶ, καὶ ἐχθαίνει; Ἐπειδὴ σὺ πιστεύεις, εἴ γε καὶ ἐχδαίνει. Αἰχμάλωτόν ὅς ἔλαδε, χύριός ἔστι τοῦ βίου τοῦ σοῦ, ὡς θέλει αὑτὸν οἰχονομεῖ. Εἰπέ μοι, εἴ τις λήσταρχος υἱὸν βασιλέως αὐτῷ προσφυγόντα, καὶ ἐρημίαν καὶ τὴν ἐχείνου συνοίχησιν ἀγαπήσαντα ὑπὸ χεῖρας ἔχοι καὶ ἐξουσίαν, δυνήφεται αὐτῷ εἰπεῖν, εἰ τελευτᾷ, εἰ ζῇ; Καὶ σφόδρα γε δυνήσεται. Τί δήποτε; Οὐχ ἐπειδὴ προοῖδε τὸ μέλλον, ἀλλ᾽ ἐπειδὴ ἑχατέρου χύριος γίνεται, τοῦ ἀφανίσαι, καὶ σῶσαι τὸν παῖδα, ἐχείνου ποιήσαντος αὐτὸν χύριον. Καὶ γὰρ ἀνελεῖν, ἐὰν θέλῃ, δυνήσεται, καὶ ἀφεῖναι, ἂν βουληθῇ, ὁμοίως δυνήσεται ὑπὸ γὰρ ἐχείνῳ γέγονεν. Ἂν εἴπῃ, ὅτι πλούσιος ἔσῃ ἣ πένη;, ἀμφοτέρων χύριος αὐτός ἐστι. Τὸ πλέον τοῦ χόσμου ὑπὸ τὰς τοῦ διαδόλου χεῖρας ἑαυ- «οὺς ἔδωχαν.

Ho gar tas Graphas eidōs, hōs eidenai chrē, oudeni tōn ginomenōn schandalizetai, panta pherei gennaiōs, ta men tę̄ pistei epitrepōn kai tǭ akatalēptǭ tēs tou Theou oichonomias, tōn de kai logous eidōs, kai paradeigmata heurischōn en tais Graphais. Epei kai to mē panta periergazesthai, kai to mē panta thelein eidenai, mega tou eidenai techmērion. Kai ei boulesthe, epi paradeigmatos erō" “Estō potamos, mallon de estōsan potamoi (ou kata synchōrēsin legō, all' hoper eisin hoi potamou" 6 ou pantes chata bathos isoi tynchanousin, all᾽ hoi men psiloteron to edaphos echontes, heteroi bathy kai hikanon apopnixai ton agnoounta" kai entautha men ilingoi, echei de oucheti. To oun mē thelein pasin homoiōs epicheirein, chalon, kai to mē thelein panta ta bathē eidenai, ou michron tou eidenai techmērion" hōs ho ge boulomenos pantos pou merous tou potamou chatatolmąn, houtos malista ouk hoide tōn potamōn ta idiōmata, kai apoleitai pollachis apo tēs autēs thrasytētos tou bathous chatatolmēsas, aph᾽ hēs diedaine to mē bathy. Houtō kai epi tou Theou, ho panta thelōn eidenai, kai pantōn katatolmōn, houtos ouchk hoide malista ti esti Theos. ᾿All᾽ en men tois potamois to men pleon meros asphales, oligoi de Ōtngoi kai bathē " epi de tou Theou to pleon en apochryphois, kai ouch estin exichniasai ta erga hautou. Ti toinyn biazę̄ chatapontisai sauton? Touto monon isthi, hoti panta ho Theos oichonomei, hoti pantōn pronoei, hoti autexousioi esmen, hoti ta men energei, ta de synchōrei, hoti ouden ponēron ginesthai bouletai, hoti ouch apo tou boulēmatos hautou panta ginetai, alla kai apo tou hēmeteron, panta ta chacha apo tou hē keterou monon, panta ta agaēa apo te tou hēmeterou kai tēs autou rhopēs, hoti ouden auton lanthanei. Dia touto panta energei. Eita sy touto eidōs, arithmei tena men ta agatha, tina de ta chacha, kai tina ta adiaphora " hoion, agathon hē aretē, kachon hē phaulotēs, adiaphora ploutos, penia, zōē, thanatos. An tauta eidę̄s, eisę̄ kai meta toutōn, hoti hoi dikaioi dia touto thlioontai, hina stephanōthōsin, hoi amartōloi, hina tōn hamartiōn dikēn echtisōsin " ou pantes de hoi hamartōloi dekēn entautha tinousin, hina mē tę̄ anastasei hoi polloi apistōsin, hōsper ou pantes hoi dikaioi thlidontai, hina mē tēn kachian epainetēn einai nomisę̄s, alla tēn aretēn. Houtoi kanones. eisi, kai horoi " ho boulei age ep᾽ autous, kai ou diaporēseis. “Hōsper gar esti para tois grammatistais ho tōn hexakischiliōn arithmos, kai hypo touton hapanta agetai, kai panta merizein kai polyplasiazein dynaton en tǭ kanoni tōn hexachischiliōn, kai dia tou arithmou toutou panta strephetai, kai isasi tauta hosoi grammata memathēkasin - houtō tous chanonas toutous, ous palin erō syntomōteron, an tis eidę̄, oudepote schandalizetai. Tines oun eisin houtoi? “Hoti agathon aretē, hoti phaulon chachia, hoti adiaphora nosoi, penia, epidoulai, sykophantiai, kai hota toiauta" hot: hoi dichaioi thledontai enthade " ei de tines kai eu paschousin, hina mē hē aretē doxę̄ misētē eina:" hoti hoi tōn potamōn A pantes isoi bmō, d yta hoi men apipos aioteron ti os echontes, hoi de houtō bathy hōs hichanon einai apopnixai ton agnoounta kai entautha men ilingoi, ekei de oucheti᾽ houtō kai peri tōn tou Theou zētēmatōn ta men toiauta estin hōs autothen tēn lysin paristąn tois zētousi, ta de houtōs oporrhēta kai apochrypha, hōs kai apollynai poiein tous periergoteron mathein ti philoneichountas" kathaper oun to mē Ein.... ᾿ ponēroi euphrainontai, hina echei cholasthōsin᾽ ei de tines kai cholazontai, hōste mē tēn kachian doxai einai chalon, mēde atimōrēta ta pragmata " hoti ou cholazontai pantes, hina mē tēs anastaseōs ho kairos diapistēthę̄ ᾿ hoti kai tōn agathōn eisi tines hoi phaula echontes erga, kai entautha auta apotithentai, kai tōn ponērōn hoi chrēsta echontes, kai entautha apolamdanousin, hina ekei timōrēthōsin " hoti achatalēpta ta pleiona tou Theou erga᾽ hoti poly to meson hēmōn kai autou, kai hoson ouch estin eipein. ᾽n tauta analogizōmetha, ouden hēmas thorydēsai dynēsetai. "an tōn Graphōn achouōmen synechōs, heurēsomen kai paradeigmata toiauta polla᾽ Ta dynamena se, phēsi, sophisai eis sōtērian. Kai gar ta praktea hypotithenkai hai Graphai, kai ta mē prachtea" achoue gar tou machariou touton allachou legontos, Pepoithas sdauton hodēgon einai tyrlōn, phōs tōn en schotei, paideutēn aphronōn, didaschalon nēpiōn. Horąs hoti phōs tōn en schotei ho nomos? Ei de ho to gramma deiknys phōs, to gramma to ᾿apochteinon, ti ara ho to pneuma to zōopoioun? ei hē Palaia phōs, ti hē Kainē. entha tosauta anepetasthē? entha tosouton esti to meson, hoson ei tois ouden pleon tēs gēs eidosi ton ou- Peri geennēs emathomen, peri basileias, peri kriseōx. Mē pisteuōmen alogois pragmati " goēteia panta echeina. Ti oun hoti legousi, phēsi, kai echthainei? Epeidē sy pisteueis, ei ge kai echdainei. Aichmalōton hos elade, chyrios esti tou biou tou sou, hōs thelei hauton oichonomei. Eipe moi, ei tis lēstarchos huion basileōs autǭ prosphygonta, kai erēmian kai tēn echeinou synoichēsin agapēsanta hypo cheiras echoi kai exousian, dynēphetai autǭ eipein, ei teleutą, ei zę̄? Kai sphodra ge dynēsetai. Ti dēpote? Ouch epeidē prooide to mellon, all᾽ epeidē hechaterou chyrios ginetai, tou aphanisai, kai sōsai ton paida, echeinou poiēsantos auton chyrion. Kai gar anelein, ean thelę̄, dynēsetai, kai apheinai, an boulēthę̄, homoiōs dynēsetai hypo gar echeinǭ gegonen. An eipę̄, hoti plousios esę̄ hē penē?, amphoterōn chyrios autos esti. To pleon tou chosmou hypo tas tou diadolou cheiras heau- «ous edōchan.

For whoever knows the Scriptures as one ought to know them is scandalized by nothing that happens, but bears everything nobly, entrusting some things to faith and to the incomprehensibility of God's dispensation, while of others he knows the reasons and finds examples in the Scriptures. Indeed, not prying into everything and not wishing to know everything is a great proof of knowledge. And if you wish, I will put it by an example. Suppose there is a river, or rather suppose there are rivers (I do not say this as a hypothesis, but as rivers really are): they are not all equal in depth; some have a shallower bed, others a deep one, able to drown one who does not know it; and here there are whirlpools, there none. Not wishing to attempt every place alike, then, is good, and not wishing to know all the depths is no small proof of knowledge; for the one who wishes to venture on every part of the river is the very one who least knows the character of rivers, and he will often perish, venturing on the deep with the same boldness with which he crossed the shallow. So too with God: the one who wishes to know everything and ventures on everything is the one who least of all knows what God is. But in rivers the greater part is safe, and the whirlpools and depths are few; with God the greater part is hidden, and his works cannot be traced out. Why, then, do you force yourself to drown? Know this only: that God orders all things, that he provides for all things, that we are free, that some things he works and others he permits, that he wishes nothing evil to happen, that not everything happens by his will but also by ours, that all evils come from our will alone, all good things from both our will and his aid, that nothing escapes him. That is why he works all things. Then, knowing this, reckon up which things are good, which evil, and which indifferent: for instance, virtue is good, wickedness evil; wealth, poverty, life, death are indifferent. If you know these things, you will know with them that the righteous are afflicted so that they may be crowned, and sinners so that they may pay the penalty for their sins. But not all sinners pay the penalty here, so that the many may not disbelieve in the resurrection; just as not all the righteous are afflicted, so that you may not think wickedness praiseworthy rather than virtue. These are rules and boundaries; bring whatever you wish to them, and you will not be at a loss. For as among teachers of arithmetic there is the number six thousand, and everything is brought under it, and one can divide and multiply everything by the rule of six thousand, and everything turns on this number—all who have learned their letters know this—so whoever knows these rules, which I will state again more briefly, is never scandalized. What, then, are they? That virtue is good; that wickedness is bad; that diseases, poverty, plots, false accusations and the like are indifferent; that the righteous are afflicted here, and if some are well off, it is so that virtue may not seem hateful; that … (As for rivers, not all are equal …, some having a shallower bed, others so deep as to be able to drown one who does not know them, and here there are whirlpools, there none; so too among the questions about God, some are such that they present the solution at once to those who seek it, others so ineffable and hidden that they even destroy those who strive to learn something too curiously; just as, then, not …) the wicked rejoice here so that they may be punished there; and if some of them are punished, it is so that wickedness may not seem good nor its deeds go unpunished; that not all are punished, so that the time of the resurrection may not be disbelieved; that among the good there are some who have bad deeds, and they lay them down here, and among the wicked some who have good deeds, and they receive their reward here, so that they may be punished there; that most of God's works are incomprehensible; that the distance between us and him is great, more than can be told. If we reckon up these things, nothing will be able to trouble us. If we listen to the Scriptures continually, we shall find many such examples too. “Which are able,” he says, “to make you wise for salvation.” For the Scriptures set out both what is to be done and what is not to be done. Hear this blessed man saying elsewhere, “You are confident that you are a guide to the blind, a light to those in darkness, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of infants.” Do you see that the law is a light to those in darkness? And if the one who shows the letter—the letter that kills—is a light, what then is the one who shows the Spirit that gives life? If the Old is light, what is the New, in which so much has been unveiled, and where the difference is as great as if one were to show heaven to those who know nothing beyond the earth? … We have learned about hell, about the kingdom, about the judgment. Let us not believe in things without reason: all those things are sorcery. “What then,” someone says, “when they foretell something and it comes about?” It is because you believe, if indeed it does come about. Whoever has taken a captive is master of his life, and manages it as he wishes. Tell me, if a robber chief held in his hands and power a king's son who had fled to him and had come to love the wilderness and living with him, would he be able to tell him whether he will die or live? Yes, very well. Why? Not because he foreknows the future, but because he has become master of both, of destroying the boy and of saving him, since the boy made him master. For he will be able to kill him if he wishes, and equally able to let him go if he chooses; for the boy has come under his power. If he says, “You will be rich” or “poor,” he is master of both. The greater part of the world has given itself into the devil's hands.

Rom 11:33 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 2:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 3:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 John 5:19 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Chrysostom warns against prying into God's unsearchable ways, sets out “rules” (virtue alone is good, poverty and sickness indifferent, the righteous afflicted to be crowned, not all sinners punished here) by which the Scripture-taught Christian is never scandalized, and explains that soothsayers' predictions come true only because those who believe them have put themselves in the devil's power.

  • Homily 8 continued (2 Tim 3:15). The scan text repeats the comparison with rivers, out of place, in the middle of the list of “rules”; this passage is printed here in parentheses as it stands, with lost words marked “…”. Words are lost also after “those who know nothing beyond the earth” (marked “…”), where Chrysostom turns to soothsayers. “The number six thousand” as a rule for division and multiplication is the text's reading; its exact reference in ancient school arithmetic is uncertain. On providence and free will (“all evils come from our will alone, all good things from both our will and his aid”), translated as written.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Eschatology, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Chrysostom, Hom. 2 Tim. 8.4 (PG 62:604; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/chrysostom-hom-2-timotheum/8-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne's Patrologia Graeca 62 (archive.org OCR; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 13.

8.5PG 62:604

Καὶ ἄλλως δὲ, ὅταν ἐθισθῇ ἄνθρωπος πιστεύειν, οὐδεὶς γὰρ ταῖς ἀποτυχίαις προσέχει, ἀλλ᾽ εἴ που ἐπιτύχοιεν, Εἰ δέ τινα ἔχουσ: δύναμιν προγνωστιχὴν, ἐμοὶ τῷ πιστῷ τούτους ἄγε. Οὐ μεγαληγορῶν λέγω " τὸ γὰρ τούτων ἀπηλλάχθαι, οὐ μεγαληγορίας. 'Αμαρπημάτων μὲν γάρ εἶμι μεστός" τούτων δὲ ἕνεχεν οὐχ ἂν ταπεινοφρονήσαιμι" πάντων τῇ τοῦ Θεοῦ χάριτι χαταγελῶ. ἴΑγε πρὸς ἐμὲ τὸν ἄνδρα τὸν μάγον, εἴ τινα ἔχει δύναμιν προγνωστιχὴν, εἰπάτω τί μοι συμθήσεται, αὔριον τί ἔσται μοι. ᾿Αλλ’ οὐχ ἐρεῖ" ὑπὸ γὰρ τὴν τοῦ βασιλέως ἐξουσίαν εἰμὶ, καὶ οὐχ ἔχει τὴν ἐμὴν ἀρχὴν οὐδὲ τὴν ὑποταγὴν " πόῤῥω τῶν καταδύσεων αὐτοῦ καὶ τῶν σπηλαίων τυγχάνω, τῷ βασιλεῖ στρατεύομαι. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ὁ δεῖνα ἔχλεψε, φησὶ, καὶ ὁ δεῖνα αὐτὸν χατεμήνυσε. Μάλιστα μὲν οὖν οὐδὲ πανταχοῦ τοῦτο ἀληθὲς, ἀλλὰ γέλως καὶ ψεῦδος " οὐδὲν γὰρ ἴφασιν" εἰ δέ,τι ἴσασι, μᾶλλον τὰ ἑαυτῶν ὥφειλον λέγειν, πῶς τὰ πολλὰ ἀναθήματα τῶν εἰδώ- «λων ἐχλάπη, πῶς τὸ πολὺ χῤυσίον ἐχωνεύθη. Διὰ τί. μὴ προεῖπον τοῖς ἱερεῦσιν αὐτῶν; Ὥστε οὐδὲν ἴσασιν" ἀλλὰ χρημάτων μὲν ἕνεχεν οὐδὲ εἰπεῖν ἐδύναντο, ὅταν οἱ ναοὶ αὑτῶν οἱ εἰδωλιχοὶ ἐπίμπραντο, καὶ πολλοὶ συναπώλλυντο. Διὰ τί μὴ φείδονται τῆς σωτηρίας τῆς αὑτῶν; ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐπιτυχία μόνον τὸ πρᾶγμά ἐστιν, εἴ πού τι καὶ προείποιεν. Εἰσὶ παρ᾽ ἡμῖν προφῆται, ἀλλ' οὐχ ἀποτυγχάνουσιν" οὐ τοῦτο μὲν λέγουσιν, ἐχεῖνο δὲ ψεύδονται, ἀλλὰ πάντα ἀληθεύουσι" τοῦτο γὰρ προγνώσεώς ἐστι. Παύσασθέ ποτε τῆς μανίας, παραχαλῶ, εἴ γε τῷ Χριστῷ πιστεύετε " εἰ δὲ μὴ πιστεύετε, τί ἑαυτοὺς διασύρετε, τί ἀπατᾶτε; φησὶ, πάντα ἐγγώρισα ὑμῖν, καὶ πάντα ὅσα ἤκουσα παρὰ ἐοῦ Πατρὸς, ἀπήγγειλα ὑμῖν" καὶ, Οὐ έγω ὑμᾶς δούλους, ἀ.λιὰ φίλους ὑμεῖς ςἐ- «(ἴοι μού ἐστε. Διὰ τί οὖν ταῦτα οὐχ ἐγνώρισεν ἡμῖν; Ὅτι βούλεται μηδένα λόγον ἔχειν ἡμᾶς αὐτῶν. Ἑ πεὶ ὅτι οὐ βασκαίνει, τοῖς παλαιοῖς ταῦτα ἐλέγετο, καὶ περὶ ὄνου καὶ ἑτέρων τινῶν, ἐπειδὴ νήπιοι ἦσαν" ἡμῖν δὲ, ἐπειδὴ βούλεται μηδένα λόγον ἡμῖν εἶναι περὶ αὑτῶν, οὐδὲ φροντίδα ἔθετο ταύτην τοῦ γνωρέἕως πότε χωλανεῖτε ἐπ᾽ ἀμφοτέραις ταῖς ἰγνύαιςΊ σαι ἡμῖν. ᾿Αλλὰ τί μανθάνομεν; Ὅπερ οὐχ ἔμαθον ὑμῶν; τίνος γὰρ ἕνεχεν προσέρχῃ; τί ἐρωτᾷς; Ἅμα προσῆλθες, ἅμα ἡρώτησας, ὑπὸ 8 τὴν δουλείαν σαυκὸν ἐποίησας " ὡς γὰρ πιστεύων ἐρωτᾷς. Οὗ, φησὶν, οὐ πιττεύων αὐτὸν ἀληθεύειν, ἀλλὰ πειράζων. Καὶ τὸ πειράζειν εἰ ἀληθεύει, οὐχ ἔστι πεπεισμένου ὅτι ψεύδεται, ἀλλ᾽ ἔτι ἀμφιδάλλοντος. Τίνος οὖν ἕνεχεν ἐχεῖνοι “ μιχρὰ γὰρ ἅπαντα ἐχεῖνα " ἃ δὲ ἡμεῖς ἐμάθομεν ἐστὶ ταῦτα, ὅτι ἐγειρόμεθα, ἔτι ἀθάνατοι ἐσόμεθα, ὅτι ἄφθαρτοι, ὅτι οὐχ ἔχει τέλος ἡ ζωὴ, ὅτι πάντα παρελεύσεται, ὅτι ἐν νεφέλαις ἁἀρπαγησόμεθα, ὅτι οἱ πονηροὶ χόλασιν τίσουσι, μυρία πρὸς τούτοις ἕτερα, καὶ οὐδέν ἔστι ψεῦδος. Οὐ πολλῷ βέλτιον εἰἐρωτᾷς τί ἔσται; Εἰ μὲν γὰρ τοῦτο λέγει, ὅτι τόδε δέναι ταῦτα, ἣ ὅτι ὁ ὄνος ὁ ἀπολόμενος εὑρέθη; Ἰδοὺ ἔσται, τόδε πρᾶξον καὶ διαφεύξῃ, μάλιστα μὲν οὐδὲ ἕλαδες τὸν ὄνον, ἰδοὺ εὗρες " τί τὸ χέρδος; οὐ πάλιν οὕτως ἐχρῆν εἰδωλολατρεῖν, πλὴν ἀλλ᾽ οὐ τοσαύτη ἀπολλύεις αὐτὸν ἑτέρῳ τρόπῳ; Κἂν γὰρ αὑτός σε ἡ ἀπόνοια " εἰ δὲ τὰ μέλλοντα Ρ προλέγουσιν, οὐδὲν. μὴ ἀφῇ, σὺ αὐτὸν ἀφήσεις τῇ τελευτῇ " τὰ δὲ πράγἄλλο κερδαίνει ὁ μαθὼν, ἣ λύπην περιττὴν " τὸ μὲν ματα, ἅπερ ἐγὼ εἶπον, ἂν χρατεῖν βουλώμεθα, διγὰρ πρᾶγμα οὐχ ἐξέδη, τὴν δὲ λύπην ὑπέμεινεν, ἐταρίχευσεν ἑαυτόν. Εἰ συνέφερε τοῦτο, οὐχ ἂν ἡμῖν ἐφθόνησεν ὁ Θεός " οὐχ ἂν ἐδάσχηνεν ὁ τὰ ἐν οὐρανοῖς εἰπών. Ὅσα γὰρ ἤκουσα παρὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς, ηνεχῶς ἔχομεν. Ἑχεῖνα τοίνυν διώχωμεν, ἐχείνων ἐχώμεθα τῶν μενόντων, τῶν βεδαίων. Μὴ προσέχωμὲν μάντεσι, μηδὲ χρησμολόγοις, μηδὲ ἀγύρταις, ἀλλ᾽ ἣ τῷ Θεῷ τῷ πάντα εἰδότι σαφῶς, τῷ τὴν γνῶσιν ἔχοντι τῶν ἁπάντων " καὶ οὕτω πάντα εἰσόμεθα, ὃ εἰδέναι χρὴ, καὶ πάντων τῶν ἀγαθῶν ἐπιτευξόμεθα.

Kai allōs de, hotan ethisthę̄ anthrōpos pisteuein, oudeis gar tais apotychiais prosechei, all᾽ ei pou epitychoien, Ei de tina echous: dynamin prognōstichēn, emoi tǭ pistǭ toutous age. Ou megalēgorōn legō " to gar toutōn apēllachthai, ou megalēgorias. 'Amarpēmatōn men gar eimi mestos" toutōn de henechen ouch an tapeinophronēsaimi" pantōn tę̄ tou Theou chariti chatagelō. iAge pros eme ton andra ton magon, ei tina echei dynamin prognōstichēn, eipatō ti moi symthēsetai, aurion ti estai moi. ᾿All’ ouch erei" hypo gar tēn tou basileōs exousian eimi, kai ouch echei tēn emēn archēn oude tēn hypotagēn " porrhō tōn katadyseōn autou kai tōn spēlaiōn tynchanō, tǭ basilei strateuomai. ᾿All᾽ ho deina echlepse, phēsi, kai ho deina auton chatemēnyse. Malista men oun oude pantachou touto alēthes, alla gelōs kai pseudos " ouden gar iphasin" ei de,ti isasi, mallon ta heautōn hōpheilon legein, pōs ta polla anathēmata tōn eidō- «lōn echlapē, pōs to poly chrysion echōneuthē. Dia ti. mē proeipon tois hiereusin autōn? Hōste ouden isasin" alla chrēmatōn men henechen oude eipein edynanto, hotan hoi naoi hautōn hoi eidōlichoi epimpranto, kai polloi synapōllynto. Dia ti mē pheidontai tēs sōtērias tēs hautōn? ᾿All᾽ epitychia monon to pragma estin, ei pou ti kai proeipoien. Eisi par᾽ hēmin prophētai, all' ouch apotynchanousin" ou touto men legousin, echeino de pseudontai, alla panta alētheuousi" touto gar prognōseōs esti. Pausasthe pote tēs manias, parachalō, ei ge tǭ Christǭ pisteuete " ei de mē pisteuete, ti heautous diasyrete, ti apatate? phēsi, panta engōrisa hymin, kai panta hosa ēkousa para eou Patros, apēngeila hymin" kai, Ou egō hymas doulous, a.lia philous hymeis se- «(ioi mou este. Dia ti oun tauta ouch egnōrisen hēmin? Hoti bouletai mēdena logon echein hēmas autōn. He pei hoti ou baskainei, tois palaiois tauta elegeto, kai peri onou kai heterōn tinōn, epeidē nēpioi ēsan" hēmin de, epeidē bouletai mēdena logon hēmin einai peri hautōn, oude phrontida etheto tautēn tou gnōreeōs pote chōlaneite ep᾽ amphoterais tais ignyaisI sai hēmin. ᾿Alla ti manthanomen? Hoper ouch emathon hymōn? tinos gar henechen proserchę̄? ti erōtąs? Hama prosēlthes, hama hērōtēsas, hypo 8 tēn douleian saukon epoiēsas " hōs gar pisteuōn erōtąs. Hou, phēsin, ou pitteuōn auton alētheuein, alla peirazōn. Kai to peirazein ei alētheuei, ouch esti pepeismenou hoti pseudetai, all᾽ eti amphidallontos. Tinos oun henechen echeinoi “ michra gar hapanta echeina " ha de hēmeis emathomen esti tauta, hoti egeirometha, eti athanatoi esometha, hoti aphthartoi, hoti ouch echei telos hē zōē, hoti panta pareleusetai, hoti en nephelais haarpagēsometha, hoti hoi ponēroi cholasin tisousi, myria pros toutois hetera, kai ouden esti pseudos. Ou pollǭ beltion eierōtąs ti estai? Ei men gar touto legei, hoti tode denai tauta, hē hoti ho onos ho apolomenos heurethē? Idou estai, tode praxon kai diapheuxę̄, malista men oude helades ton onon, idou heures " ti to cherdos? ou palin houtōs echrēn eidōlolatrein, plēn all᾽ ou tosautē apollyeis auton heterǭ tropǭ? Kan gar hautos se hē aponoia " ei de ta mellonta R prolegousin, ouden. mē aphę̄, sy auton aphēseis tę̄ teleutę̄ " ta de pragallo kerdainei ho mathōn, hē lypēn perittēn " to men mata, haper egō eipon, an chratein boulōmetha, digar pragma ouch exedē, tēn de lypēn hypemeinen, etaricheusen heauton. Ei synephere touto, ouch an hēmin ephthonēsen ho Theos " ouch an edaschēnen ho ta en ouranois eipōn. Hosa gar ēkousa para tou Patros, ēnechōs echomen. Hecheina toinyn diōchōmen, echeinōn echōmetha tōn menontōn, tōn bedaiōn. Mē prosechōmen mantesi, mēde chrēsmologois, mēde agyrtais, all᾽ hē tǭ Theǭ tǭ panta eidoti saphōs, tǭ tēn gnōsin echonti tōn hapantōn " kai houtō panta eisometha, ho eidenai chrē, kai pantōn tōn agathōn epiteuxometha.

And besides, once a man has grown used to believing, no one pays attention to their failures, but only to the times they happen to succeed. If they have any power of foreknowledge, bring them to me, a believer. I do not say this boastfully; for being free of these things is no matter for boasting. I am full of sins; but in this respect I will not be humbled: by God's grace I laugh at them all. Bring me the man, the magician: if he has any power of foreknowledge, let him tell what will happen to me, what will happen to me tomorrow. But he will not tell it; for I am under the authority of the King, and he has no rule over me and I am not subject to him; I am far from his dens and caves; I serve as a soldier of the King. “But so-and-so stole,” he says, “and so-and-so informed against him.” In the first place this is not true in every case, but is a joke and a lie; for they know nothing. And if they knew anything, they ought rather to have told their own affairs: how the many offerings of the idols were stolen, how so much gold was melted down. Why did they not foretell these things to their priests? So they know nothing. Even concerning money they could tell nothing when their idol temples were burned and many perished with them. Why do they not look after their own safety? No, the thing is mere chance, if ever they happen to foretell something. We have prophets, but they do not fail; they do not tell one thing truly and lie about another, but they are true in everything; for this is foreknowledge. Stop your madness at last, I beg you, if indeed you believe in Christ; and if you do not believe, why do you disgrace yourselves, why do you deceive? “How long will you limp on both your hams?” For why do you go to them? Why do you ask them? As soon as you went, as soon as you asked, you made yourself their slave; for you ask as one who believes. “No,” he says, “I do not believe that he tells the truth; I am testing him.” But testing whether he tells the truth is not the mark of one persuaded that he lies, but of one who still doubts. Why, then, do you ask what will happen? If he says, “This will happen; do this and you will escape,” you ought not even then to practise idolatry again; but the madness would not be so great. But if they foretell what is to come, the one who has learned it gains nothing but needless grief; for the thing does not happen, but he has endured the grief and wasted himself away. If this were profitable, God would not have grudged it to us; he who told us the things in heaven would not have begrudged it. For he says, “I have made known to you everything, and all that I heard from my Father I have declared to you”; and, “I no longer call you servants, but friends; you are my friends.” Why, then, did he not make these things known to us? Because he wishes us to take no account of them. For it is not that he grudges them: these things were told to the people of old, about an ass and some other matters, because they were infants; but to us, since he wishes us to have no concern about them, he did not even take the trouble of making them known. But what do we learn? What they did not learn; for all those things are small. What we have learned is this: that we rise again, that we shall be immortal, that we shall be incorruptible, that the life to come has no end, that all things will pass away, that we shall be caught up in the clouds, that the wicked will pay a penalty, and countless other things besides, and none of it is a lie. Is it not much better to know these things than that the ass that was lost has been found? Look, you have found it: what is the gain? Will you not lose it again in another way? For even if it does not leave you, you will leave it at your death; but the things that I have spoken of, if we wish to hold them, we have forever. Let us, then, pursue those things; let us hold to the things that remain, that are firm. Let us not pay attention to diviners, nor to oracle-mongers, nor to charlatans, but to God, who knows all things clearly, who has the knowledge of all; and so we shall know everything that we ought to know, and obtain all the good things.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

1 Kgs 18:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Sam 9:20 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Thess 4:17 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:53 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Concluding Homily 8, Chrysostom mocks soothsayers and magicians, who could not even foresee the plundering of their own temples, warns Christians that consulting them is slavery and idolatry, and contrasts their petty predictions with the sure promises of resurrection and eternal life revealed by Christ.

  • Homily 8 concluded. In the second half of this section the scan text is disordered: it prints the two columns of a page line by line, so that the lines of two passages alternate, and it places several sentences out of their order (the quotation from 1 Kgs 18:21; “Why do you go to them?”; “If this were profitable …”). The translation follows the order the sense requires, which is that of Migne's printed text; words lost at the broken line ends are not supplied. “About an ass”: the lost asses of Saul's father, found through Samuel (1 Sam 9–10). “Wasted himself away” translates ἐταρίχευσεν ἑαυτόν (literally “pickled himself”). The doxology at the end is lost in the scan.

Topics: Eschatology, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Chrysostom, Hom. 2 Tim. 8.5 (PG 62:604; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/chrysostom-hom-2-timotheum/8-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne's Patrologia Graeca 62 (archive.org OCR; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 13.