Against the Letters of Petilian 2.180–2.202

Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 52 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, Contra litteras Petiliani (CSEL 52, 1909), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).

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Chapter 2

2.180CSEL 52:111–112

Augustinus respondit: Contra te loqueris, sed tamen, quia pro ueritate loqueris, si eam dilexeris, pro te fit quod loqueris. quaero enim abs te, de quibus hoc dixerit apostolus Paulus. recolamus hoc paululum, si placet. quidam, inquit, per inuidiam et contentionem, quidam uero per bonam uoluntatem Christum annuntiant; quidam ex caritate, scientes quia in defensionem euangelii positus sum, quidam uero et per contumaciam Christum annuntiant, non caste, existimantes tribulationem suscitari uinculis meis. quid enim, dum omni modo, siue occasione siue ueritate, Christus annuntietur? et in hoc gaudeo; sed et gaudebo. uidemus istos rem quidem sanctam et castam et ueram non tamen caste annuntiasse, sed per inuidiam et contentionem, sine caritate, sine castitate. certe paulo ante laudes caritatis aduersus nos dicere uidebaris ex apostoli testimonio, quia, ubi caritas non est, quidquid fuerit nihil prodest: ecce in istis caritas non est et tamen erat Christi praedicatio, de qua se gaudere dicit apostolus; neque enim malo illorum gaudet, sed bono nominis Christi. in ipso quippe caritas erat quae non gaudet super iniquitate, congaudet autem ueritati. inuidia porro quae in illis erat diabolicum malum est; hac enim et cecidit et deiecit. hi ergo tam mali, quos sic arguit apostolus, in quibus erat tantum bonum de quo gaudet apostolus, ubi erant, intus an foris? elige quod uolueris. si intus, ecce nouerat eos Paulus et eum tamen non polluebant. sic uos non polluerent in unitate orbis terrarum de quibus nescio qua seu uera dicitis seu falsa confingitis. quare ergo uos separastis, quare sacrilegio scelerati schismatis peremistis? si autem foris erant, ecce et in eis qui foris sunt et utique ad uitam aeternam, quia caritatem non habent et unitatem non tenent, pertinere non possunt, inest tamen sanctitas nominis Christi, quorum praedicationem apostolus propter ipsam nominis sanctitatem, quamuis illos detestetur, gaudendo confirmat. recte ergo ipsi nomini non facimus iniuriam, cum ad nos ueniunt qui foris erant, sed ipsos corrigimus, illud honoramus. uos itaque uidete quam nefarie in eis, quorum facta sicut uidetur arguitis, etiam sacramentum nominis Christi quod in eis sanctum est exsufflatis. et tu quidem istos quos commemorauit apostolus, sicut uerba tua indicant, foris ab ecclesia fuisse arbitraris. ita cum times a catholicis pati persecutionem, de qua nobis loquendo facis inuidiam, confirmasti in haereticis Christi nomen. cui rebaptizando facis iniuriam.

Augustine answered: You speak against yourself; but because you speak for the truth, if you love it, what you say turns to your good. For I ask you of whom the apostle Paul said this. Let us recall it a little, if you please. “Some,” he says, “proclaim Christ out of envy and contention, but some out of goodwill; some out of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel, but others proclaim Christ out of stubbornness, not purely, thinking to stir up trouble for me in my chains. What then? Provided that in every way, whether in pretence or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, in this I rejoice, yes, and I will rejoice.” We see that these men proclaimed a holy, pure, and true thing, yet not purely, but out of envy and contention, without love, without purity. Certainly a little before you seemed to speak the praises of love against us from the apostle's testimony, that where love is not, whatever there is profits nothing. Look, in these men there is no love, and yet there was the preaching of Christ, in which the apostle says he rejoices; for he does not rejoice in their evil but in the good of Christ's name. For in him was the love that does not rejoice over iniquity but rejoices with the truth. Envy, further, which was in them, is a devilish evil; by it the devil both fell and cast down. These men, then, so wicked, whom the apostle so rebukes, in whom was so great a good in which the apostle rejoices, where were they, inside or outside? Choose what you like. If inside, see, Paul knew them, and yet they did not pollute him. So those of whom you say some things or other, true or invented, would not pollute you in the unity of the world. Why, then, did you separate yourselves, why did you perish by the sacrilege of accursed schism? But if they were outside, see, even in those who are outside, and who certainly cannot attain eternal life because they do not have love and do not hold unity, there is still the holiness of Christ's name; and the apostle confirms their preaching with rejoicing because of the very holiness of the name, though he detests them. Rightly, then, we do no injury to that name when those who were outside come to us; we correct them and honour it. So see how abominably, in those whose deeds you rebuke as you see fit, you exsufflate even the sacrament of Christ's name, which is holy in them. And you think, as your words indicate, that these men whom the apostle mentioned were outside the church. So, while you fear suffering persecution from Catholics, about which you stir up odium against us by speaking, you have confirmed the name of Christ in heretics, to which you do injury by rebaptizing.

Phil 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:2 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Paul rejoiced that Christ was preached even by envious men; whether they were inside or outside the church, this shows either that the wicked do not pollute the good or that Christ's name is holy even among heretics.

  • Phil 1:15–18; 1 Cor 13:2, 6; Wis 2:24 (the devil's envy).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; joined words (OCR)): dumomnimodo → dum omni modo; Christua annuntietur → Christus annuntietur.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 2:24 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.180 (CSEL 52:111–112; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-180). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.181CSEL 52:112

Petilianus dixit: Si igitur tanta potentia fidei non est aliquibus aduersata, qua tu ratione persequeris, ut cogas homines inquinari?

Petilian said: “If, then, so great a power of faith was not opposed to some, on what principle do you persecute, to compel men to be defiled?”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian asks why the Catholics coerce others.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.181 (CSEL 52:112; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-181). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.182CSEL 52:112

Augustinus respondit: Nec persequimur uos, nisi quemadmodum persequitur ueritas falsitatem, nec ad nos pertinet, si quis uos aliter persecutus est, sicut nec ad uos quidquid uestri similiter faciunt, nec uos cogimus inquinari, sed suademus sanari.

Augustine answered: We do not persecute you except as truth persecutes falsehood; and if anyone has persecuted you otherwise, it does not concern us, just as whatever your people likewise do does not concern you; nor do we compel you to be defiled, but we persuade you to be healed.

Notes and citation

Summary: Catholics persecute only as truth persecutes falsehood, and seek the Donatists' healing.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.182 (CSEL 52:112; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-182). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.183CSEL 52:112

Petilianus dixit: Quodsi cogi per legem aliquem uel ad bona licuisset, uos ipsi, miseri, a nobis ad fidem purissimam cogi debuistis. sed absit, absit a nostra conscientia, ut ad nostram fidem aliquem compellamus.

Petilian said: “If it had been lawful for anyone to be compelled by law even to good things, you wretches ought to have been compelled by us to the purest faith. But far be it, far be it from our conscience to force anyone to our faith.”

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Summary: Petilian claims the Donatists coerce no one.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.183 (CSEL 52:112; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-183). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.184CSEL 52:112–115

Augustinus respondit: Ad fidem quidem nullus est cogendus inuitus; sed per seueritatem, immo et per misericordiam dei tribulationum flagellis solet perfidia castigari. numquid, quia mores optimi libertate uoluntatis eliguntur, ideo mores pessimi non legis integritate puniuntur? sed tamen male uiuendi ultrix disciplina praepostera est, nisi cum praecedens bene uiuendi doctrina contemnitur. si quae igitur aduersus uos leges constitutae sunt, non eis bene facere cogimini, sed male facere prohibemini. nam bene facere nemo potest nisi legerit, nisi amauerit, quod est in libera uoluntate; timor autem poenarum, etsi nondum habet delectationem bonae conscientiae, saltem intra claustra cogitationis cohercet malam cupiditatem. qui tamen aduersus (uos) leges constituerunt, quibus uestra comprimatur audacia? nonne hi, de quibus dicit apostolus quia non sine causa gladium portant? ministri enim dei sunt, uindices in iram ei qui male agit. tota igitur quaestio est, utrum uos non male agatis, quibus tanti schismatis sacrilegium obicit orbis terrarum; cuius quaestionis discussione neglecta superflua loquimini et, cum uiuatis ut latrones, mori uos iactatis ut martyres. et quia uel ipsas leges uel inuidiam formidatis uel ad resistendum impares estis non dico aduersus tot homines, sed aduersus tot gentes catholicas, etiam de mansuetudine gloriamini, quod ad uestram partem neminem cogitis. isto modo et miluus, cum pullos rapere territus non potuerit, columbum se nominet ubi enim potuistis et non fecistis? unde ostendistis quam plura faceretis, si possetis. quando Iulianus uobis Christi inuidens paci basilicas reddidit unitatis, quae strages a uobis factae sint, quando uobiscum apertis templis suis etiam daemones exultabant, quis commemorare sufficiat? bello Firmiano quae a uobis Rogatus Maurus pertulerit, ipsa Mauritania Caesariensis interrogetur. tempore Gildoniano, quia unus collega uester familiarissimus amicus eius fuit, uiderint Maximianistae quae senserint. nam Felicianum ipsum, qui modo uobiscum est, si ad ius iurandum liceret prouocare, utrum ad communionem uestram non inuitum Optatus redire compulerit, mouere labia non auderet, praesertim si eius faciem populus Mustitanus intueretur, quo teste illa tunc facta sunt. sed isti, ut dixi, uiderint quae passi fuerint ab eis, cum quibus Rogato talia fecerant: ipsa ecclesia catholica solidata principibus catholicis imperantibus terra marique armatis turbis ab Optato atrociter et hostiliter oppugnata est. quae res coegit tunc primo aduersus uos allegari apud uicarium Seranum legem illam de decem libris auri, quas nullus uestrum adhuc pendit, et nos crudelitatis arguitis. quid autem mansuetius sit, quam ut cohercitione damnorum tanta uestra scelera multarentur? quis autem possit enarrare omnia, quae nulla amicitia iudicum aut aliquarum potestatum quisque ubi potuerit in locis uestris propria dominatione committitis? quis nostrum in plebibus nostris non aliquid tale uel a prioribus comperit uel ipse expertus est? nonne apud Hipponem, ubi ego sum, non desunt qui meminerint Faustinum uestrum regni sui tempore praecepisse, quoniam catholicorum ibi paucitas erat, ut nullus eis panem coqueret, ita ut cuiusdam diaconis nostri fornarius inquilinus domnaedii sui panem incoctum abiecerit eique nulla exilii lege damnato communicationem non solum in ciuitate Romana, sed etiam in patria sua, nec solum in patria sua, sed etiam in domo sua negauerit? quid nuper, quod ipse adhuc lugeo? nonne Crispinus uester Calamensis cum emisset possessionem et hoc emphyteuticam, non dubitauit in fundo catholicorum imperatorum, quorum legibus nec in ciuitatibus esse iussi estis, uno terroris impetu octoginta ferme animas miserabili gemitu mussitantes rebaptizando submergere? quibus autem nisi talibus factis etiam ipsas de quibus conquerimini leges longe quidem infra meritum sceleris uestri, sed tamen qualescumque ferri coegistis? an uero uiolentis incursibus circumcellionum uestrorum, qui sub uestro principatu furiosis agminibus militant, non ex agris undique pelleremur, nisi uos obsides in ciuitatibus teneremus, qui quoquo modo ipsam faciem publicam et honestorum reprehensionem si non timore, uel pudore ferre nolitis? noli ergo dicere: absit, absit a nostra conscientia, ut ad nostram fidem aliquem compellamus, facitis enim ubi potestis; ubi autem non facitis non potestis siue legum siue inuidiae timore siue resistentium multitudine.

Augustine answered: No one indeed is to be compelled to the faith against his will; but faithlessness is usually chastised by the severity, or rather the mercy, of God through the scourges of tribulation. Because the best conduct is chosen by free will, is the worst conduct therefore not punished by the integrity of the law? Yet discipline that avenges bad living is out of order unless the teaching of good living, which comes first, is despised. So if any laws have been enacted against you, you are not compelled by them to do good, but prohibited from doing evil. For no one can do good unless he chooses it, unless he loves it, which lies in free will; but the fear of punishment, even if it does not yet have the delight of a good conscience, at least restrains evil desire within the bounds of thought. But who enacted laws against you, by which your audacity may be checked? Are they not those of whom the apostle says that they do not bear the sword in vain? “For they are God's ministers, avengers for wrath on the one who does evil.” The whole question, then, is whether you are not doing evil, you whom the world charges with the sacrilege of so great a schism; neglecting the discussion of this question, you talk of superfluous things, and though you live like robbers, you boast that you die like martyrs. And because you fear either the laws themselves or public odium, or are unequal to resisting, I will not say so many men, but so many Catholic nations, you even glory in your gentleness, that you compel no one to your party. In this way a kite too, frightened and unable to seize chicks, might call itself a dove. For where have you been able and not done it? From this you have shown how much more you would do if you could. When Julian, envying the peace of Christ, gave you back the basilicas of unity, who could recount the slaughters you committed, when even the demons exulted with you as their temples were opened? What Rogatus the Moor suffered from you in the war of Firmus, let Mauretania Caesariensis itself be asked. In the time of Gildo, since one colleague of yours was his most intimate friend, let the Maximianists see what they felt. For as for Felicianus himself, who is now with you, if one could challenge him to an oath, he would not dare to move his lips on whether Optatus did not compel him, against his will, to return to your communion, especially if the people of Musti, in whose presence those things were then done, were watching his face. But let those, as I said, see what they suffered from the very men with whom they had done such things to Rogatus. The Catholic Church itself, though strengthened by the rule of Catholic emperors, was attacked savagely and as an enemy by Optatus with armed bands on land and sea. That is what first compelled the law of ten pounds of gold to be invoked against you before the vicar Seranus, which none of you has yet paid; and you accuse us of cruelty! What could be gentler than that such great crimes of yours should be punished by the restraint of fines? But who could recount all the things you commit in your own places by your own domination, wherever anyone can, without any friendship of judges or other authorities? Which of us has not either learned of something of the kind in his congregations from his predecessors or experienced it himself? At Hippo, where I am, are there not people who remember that your Faustinus, in the time of his reign, ordered, since the Catholics there were few, that no one should bake bread for them, so that the baker of one of our deacons, a tenant of the deacon's own landlord, threw out his bread unbaked and refused him, though he had been condemned by no law of exile, fellowship not only in the Roman city but in his own home town, and not only in his home town but in his own house? And what of recently, which I still mourn? Did not your Crispinus of Calama, when he had bought a property, and that on a perpetual lease, not hesitate, on an estate of the Catholic emperors, by whose laws you are not even permitted to be in the cities, to drown by rebaptism, with one onslaught of terror, nearly eighty souls murmuring with pitiable groans? By what but such deeds did you compel even the laws you complain of to be passed, far below the desert of your crime, but still of some kind? Or should we not be driven from the countryside everywhere by the violent attacks of your Circumcellions, who serve under your leadership in raging bands, unless we held you as hostages in the cities, you who, out of shame if not fear, would not want to bear the public view and the reproach of respectable people? So do not say, “Far be it, far be it from our conscience to force anyone to our faith”; for you do it where you can; and where you do not, you cannot, out of fear of the laws or of odium, or because of the number of those who resist.

Rom 13:4 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: No one is forced to faith, but laws rightly restrain evil; the Donatists coerce wherever they can, as the violence under Julian, against Rogatus, under Optatus, at Hippo, and at Calama shows.

  • Augustine defends coercive laws against the Donatists; translated as written.
  • Rom 13:4. Julian the Apostate restored Donatist exiles and churches (362). Rogatus, Donatist bishop of Cartenna, broke away (the Rogatists) and suffered during the revolt of Firmus (ca. 372–375). The law fining heretics ten pounds of gold was Theodosius's of 392; Seranus was vicar of Africa. Faustinus was Donatist bishop of Hippo; Crispinus was Donatist bishop of Calama.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): lulianus → Iulianus.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.184 (CSEL 52:112–115; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-184). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

2.185CSEL 52:115

Petilianus dixit: Dicit enim dominus Christus: nemo ad me uenit nisi quem pater attraxerit. cur autem uos non liberum arbitrium unicuique sequi permittitis, cum ipse dominus deus liberum arbitrium dederit hominibus, uiam tamen iustitiae ostendens, ne quis forsitan nescius deperiret? dicit enim: posui ante te bonum et malum, posui ante te ignem et aquam: quod uolueris elige. ex quo uos arbitrio, miseri, uobis non aquam, sed ignem potius delegistis. sed tamen, inquit, bonum elige, ut uiuas. qui non uis bonum eligere, uiuere te nolle damnasti.

Petilian said: “For the Lord Christ says, ‘No one comes to me unless the Father draws him.’ Why do you not allow each person to follow his free choice, since the Lord God himself gave men free choice, while showing the way of righteousness so that no one might perish through ignorance? For he says, ‘I have set before you good and evil, I have set before you fire and water; choose what you will.’ By this choice, wretches, you have chosen for yourselves not water but rather fire. ‘But still,’ he says, ‘choose the good, that you may live.’ You who refuse to choose the good have condemned yourself to not wanting to live.”

John 6:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 30:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 30:19 (quotation, medium confidence)

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Summary: Petilian appeals to free choice against coercion.

  • John 6:44; Sir 15:16–17 (with Deut 30:15, 19).

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 15:16 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.185 (CSEL 52:115; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-185). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.186CSEL 52:115–116

Augustinus respondit: Si tibi proponam quaestionem, quomodo deus pater attrahat ad filium homines quos in libero dimisit arbitrio, fortassis eam difficile soluturus es. quomodo enim attrahit, si dimittit ut quis quod uoluerit eligat? et tamen utrumque uerum est, sed intellectu hoc penetrare pauci ualent. sicut ergo fieri potest ut, quos in libero dimisit arbitrio, attrahat tamen pater ad filium, sic fieri potest ut ea, quae legum cohercitionibus admonentur, non auferant liberum arbitrium. quidquid enim homo durum et molestum patitur, ammonetur ut cogitet quare patiatur, ut, si pro iustitia se pati perspexerit, id ipsum bonum eligat pro iustitia talia sustinere, si autem uiderit iniquitatem esse pro qua patitur, se infructuosissime laborare atque cruciari considerans mutet in melius uoluntatem simulque careat et molestia sterili et ipsa iniquitate multo utique grauius et perniciosius nocitura. et uos, cum aliquid aduersus uos reges constituunt, ammoneri uos credite, ut cogitetis quare ista patiamini. si propter iustitiam, re uera illi persecutores uestri sunt, uos autem beati qui persecutionem passi propter iustitiam possidebitis regnum caelorum; si autem propter iniquitatem schismatis uestri, quid illi nisi correctores uestri sunt, uos autem, sicut ceteri diuersorum scelerum rei qui poenas legibus pendunt, profecto infelices et in hoc saeculo et in futuro? nemo ergo uobis aufert liberum arbitrium, sed uos diligenter attendite quid potius eligatis, utrum correcti uiuere in pace an in malitia perseuerantes falsi martyrii nomine uera supplicia sustinere. sic uos autem alloquitur, quasi (indigna pro iustitia patiamini. quasi) uero aliquid dignum uestra iniquitate patiamini, cum tanta indigna faciatis et in tanta impunitate regnetis, ita furiosi, ut per dei laudes. amplius quam bucina bellica terreatis, ita calumniosi, ut etiam spontanea uestrorum praecipitia nostris persecutionibus imputetis.

Augustine answered: If I put to you the question how God the Father draws men to the Son whom he has left to free choice, you will perhaps find it hard to solve. For how does he draw, if he leaves each to choose what he wills? And yet both are true, but few can penetrate this with understanding. So just as it can be that the Father draws to the Son those whom he has left to free choice, so it can be that the warnings given by the coercion of laws do not take away free choice. For whatever hard and troublesome thing a man suffers, he is warned to consider why he suffers; so that if he perceives that he suffers for righteousness, he may choose that very good, to endure such things for righteousness; but if he sees that it is iniquity for which he suffers, considering that he labours and is tormented quite fruitlessly, he may change his will for the better and be rid at once both of the barren trouble and of the iniquity itself, which would certainly harm him far more seriously and ruinously. And you too, when kings enact something against you, believe that you are being warned to consider why you suffer these things. If for righteousness, then they are truly your persecutors, and you are blessed, who, having suffered persecution for righteousness, will possess the kingdom of heaven; but if for the iniquity of your schism, what are they but your correctors, and you, like others guilty of various crimes who pay the penalties of the laws, surely unhappy both in this age and in the age to come? So no one takes free choice away from you; but consider carefully what you should rather choose: whether to live corrected in peace, or, persevering in malice, to endure real punishments under the name of a false martyrdom. Yet I address you as though you suffered undeserved things for righteousness; as though you suffered anything worthy of your iniquity, when you do so many undeserved things and reign with such impunity, so raging that you terrify more with your “Praise to God” than with a war trumpet, so slanderous that you impute even the voluntary precipices of your people to our persecutions.

John 6:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:10 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Coercion leaves free choice intact by prompting reflection on why one suffers; if for schism, the laws correct rather than persecute.

  • Augustine defends coercive laws; translated as written. John 6:44; Matt 5:10. The editor's round-bracketed words are translated. The digital text reads alloquitur (“he addresses”); the sense requires Augustine speaking, and it is so translated.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.186 (CSEL 52:115–116; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-186). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

2.187CSEL 52:116–117

Dicit etiam quasi praeceptor benignissimus: qui non uis bonum eligere, uiuere te nolle damnasti. ita uero, si uestris criminationibus crederemus, bene uiueremus; quia dei promissionibus credimus, uiuere nos nolle damnamus. bene, ut arbitror, meministis quid apostoli dixerint Iudaeis, quando Christum praedicare prohibebantur: hoc ergo et nos dicimus ut respondeatis nobis, utrum deo magis oboediendum sit an hominibus. traditores turificatores persecutores uerba sunt hominum contra homines. (in sola dilectione Donati remansit Christus uerba sunt hominum extollentium gloriam hominis sub nomine Christi, ut gloria minuatur ipsius Christi. scriptum est enim: in lata gente gloria regis, in deminutione autem populi contritio principis. haec ergo uerba sunt hominum. at illa in euangelio: quia oportebat christum pati et resurgere tertia die, et praedicari in nomine eius paenitentiam et remissionem peccatorum per omnes gentes, incipientibus ab Hierusalem uerba sunt Christi commendantis gloriam quam accepit a patre in latitudine regni sui. utrisque auditis hanc ecclesiae communionem potius eligimus et hominum uerbis Christi uerba praeponimus. rogo: quis est qui nos dicat mala legisse, nisi qui Christum dicit mala docuisse?

He also says, like a most kindly teacher: “You who refuse to choose the good have condemned yourself to not wanting to live.” So, then, if we believed your accusations, we would live well; because we believe God's promises, we condemn ourselves to not wanting to live! You remember well, I think, what the apostles said to the Jews when they were forbidden to preach Christ; so we too say this, that you may answer us whether God must be obeyed rather than men. “Traitors, incense-offerers, persecutors” are words of men against men. “Christ has remained only in the love of Donatus” are words of men who exalt the glory of a man under the name of Christ, so that the glory of Christ himself may be diminished. For it is written, “In a broad nation is the glory of a king, but in the diminishing of a people is the ruin of a prince.” These, then, are words of men. But those in the gospel, “that the Christ had to suffer and rise on the third day, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins be preached in his name through all nations, beginning from Jerusalem,” are words of Christ commending the glory he received from the Father in the breadth of his kingdom. Having heard both, we choose rather this communion of the church and put Christ's words before men's words. I ask: who says that we have chosen evil, but one who says that Christ taught evil?

Acts 4:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 5:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Prov 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:46 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:47 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine chooses Christ's words about a worldwide church over Donatist words about traitors and the 'love of Donatus'.

  • Acts 4:19; 5:29; Prov 14:28; Luke 24:46–47.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): qui non nis bonum → qui non uis bonum.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.187 (CSEL 52:116–117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-187). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.188CSEL 52:117

Petilianus dixit: Numquid igitur caedem uel schismaticis deus iussit inferri? qui si omnino praeciperet, uos deberetis occidi ab aliquibus Scythis aut barbaris, non tamen a christianis.

Petilian said: “Did God, then, order slaughter to be inflicted even on schismatics? If he had commanded it at all, you ought to have been killed by some Scythians or barbarians, but not by Christians.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian denies that God orders schismatics killed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Scythis ar barbaris → Scythis aut barbaris.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.188 (CSEL 52:117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-188). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.189CSEL 52:117

Augustinus respondit: Uestri circumcelliones quiescant, et nolo nos de barbaris terreas. utrum autem schismatici nos simus an uos, nec ego nec tu, sed Christus interrogetur, ut indicet ecclesiam suam. lege ergo euangelium, et respondet tibi: in Hierusalem et in totam Iudaeam et Samariam et usque in totam terram. quisquis igitur in ecclesia non inuenitur, iam non interrogetur, sed aut correctus conuertatur aut correptus non conqueratur.

Augustine answered: Let your Circumcellions be quiet, and I do not want you to frighten us with barbarians. But whether we are the schismatics or you, let neither I nor you be asked, but Christ, that he may point out his church. So read the gospel, and he answers you: “In Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria and to the whole earth.” Whoever, then, is not found in the church, let him no longer be questioned, but either be corrected and converted, or, being rebuked, not complain.

Acts 1:8 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Christ, not either party, settles where the church is: throughout the earth.

  • Acts 1:8.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.189 (CSEL 52:117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-189). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.190CSEL 52:117

Petilianus dixit: Neque enim dominus deus humano sanguine aliquando laetatus est, cum occisorem fratris Cain in uita carnifice uoluerit permanere.

Petilian said: “For the Lord God never rejoiced in human blood, since he willed that Cain, the killer of his brother, should remain alive, with his life as his executioner.”

Gen 4:15 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian cites God's sparing of Cain.

  • Gen 4:15.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.190 (CSEL 52:117; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-190). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.191CSEL 52:117–118

Augustinus respondit: si occisori fratris deus noluit inferri mortem, sed relinqui carnificem uitam, uide ne forte hoc sit quod, cum regis cor in manu dei sit, unde multas ad uos commonendos et corripiendos leges ipse constituit, nulla tamen lex regia uos iussit occidi, fortasse propterea, ut, quicumque uestrum in pertinaci sacrilegi furoris aura persistunt, Cain parricidae supplicio, uita carnifice, crucientur. legimus enim multos a famulo dei Moyse misericorditer interfectos. nam in eo quod pro eorum nefario sacrilegio sic est dominum deprecatus, ut diceret: domine, si dimittis illis peccatum, dimitte; sin autem, dele me de libro tuo, ineffabilis eius caritas et misericordia satis apparet. numquid ergo subito crudelis effectus est, cum de monte descendens tot milia iuberet occidi? considerate itaque, ne forte maiore iracundia dei per tot leges aduersus uos latas a nullo imperatore iussi fueritis occidi. an illi fratricidae non, uos comparandos putatis? audite dominum per prophetam dicentem: ab ortu solis usque ad occasum glorificatum est nomen meum in nationibus, et in omni loco incensum admouebitur nomini meo et hostia pura. magnum nomen meum in nationibus, dicit dominus omnipotens. huic fraterno sacrificio, super quod respicit deus, inuidere uos per calumnias uestras ostenditis et, si quando audieritis a solis ortu usque ad occasum laudari nomen domini, quod est uiuum sacrificium de quo dictum est: immola deo sacrificium laudis, ita concidet uultus uester ut illius homicidae. sed quia uniuersum orbem interimere non potestis, odio ipso rei tenemini dicente Iohanne: qui odit fratrem suum homicida est. et utinam innocens frater in uestrorum potius circumcellionum tela trucidandus quam in uestram linguam rebaptizandus incurrat!

Augustine answered: If God would not have death inflicted on the killer of his brother but left him life as his executioner, see whether this may be the reason why, since the king's heart is in God's hand, and so he himself has enacted many laws to admonish and correct you, yet no royal law has ordered you to be killed: perhaps so that whoever of you persist in the stubborn breeze of sacrilegious fury may be tormented with the punishment of Cain the fratricide, life as executioner. For we read that many were killed mercifully by Moses the servant of God. For in his praying the Lord for their abominable sacrilege in such a way as to say, “Lord, if you forgive them their sin, forgive; but if not, blot me out of your book,” his ineffable love and mercy are plain enough. Did he, then, suddenly become cruel when, coming down from the mountain, he ordered so many thousands to be killed? So consider whether it is not by God's greater anger that, through so many laws enacted against you, you have been ordered killed by no emperor. Or do you think you are not to be compared with that fratricide? Hear the Lord saying through the prophet: “From the rising of the sun to its setting my name has been glorified among the nations, and in every place incense will be offered to my name and a pure offering; great is my name among the nations, says the Lord Almighty.” You show by your slanders that you envy this brother's sacrifice, on which God looks with favour; and whenever you hear that the name of the Lord is praised from the rising of the sun to its setting, which is the living sacrifice of which it was said, “Offer to God a sacrifice of praise,” your face falls like that murderer's. But since you cannot kill the whole world, you are held guilty by the hatred itself, as John says: “Whoever hates his brother is a murderer.” And would that an innocent brother would run into the weapons of your Circumcellions to be slaughtered rather than into your tongue to be rebaptized!

Prov 21:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 32:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 32:28 (allusion, high confidence) · Mal 1:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 4:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 4:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 50:14 (49:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 3:15 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Like Cain, the Donatists are left to live by God's severity; they envy the worldwide 'sacrifice' of the church as Cain envied Abel, and their hatred makes them murderers.

  • Prov 21:1; Exod 32:28, 32; Mal 1:11; Gen 4:4–5; Ps 50:14 (49:14 LXX); 1 John 3:15.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.191 (CSEL 52:117–118; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-191). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.192CSEL 52:118–119

Petilianus dixit: Monemus uos ergo, si libenter audiatis, et si non libenter accipitis admonemus, quia dominus Christus non occidendi formam sed moriendi christianis instituit. nam si ita repugnantes diligeret, nollet pro nobis occidi.

Petilian said: “We warn you, then, if you will listen willingly; and if you do not receive it willingly, we warn you all the same: the Lord Christ established for Christians a pattern not of killing but of dying. For if he loved those who resist in that way, he would not have been willing to be killed for us.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Petilian says Christ gave Christians a pattern of dying, not killing.

Topics: Persecution, Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.192 (CSEL 52:118–119; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-192). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.193CSEL 52:119

Augustinus respondit: Utinam formam eius sequerentur martyres uestri! non se praecipitarent, quod ille diabolo suggerente non fecit. uos autem cum maiores nostros etiam defunctos falso testimonio persequimini, ubi accepistis hanc formam? quod nos ignotorum criminibus maculare conamini, cum uestrorum mala facta notissima uobis obesse nolitis, ubi accepistis hanc formam? sed nimium superbimus, si de nobis succensemus, cum aduersus ipsum dominum uos falsum testimonium dicere uideamus, quandoquidem ille ecclesiam suam per omnes gentes et promisit et exhibuit et uos contradicitis. hanc uero formam nec ab ipsis Iudaeis persecutoribus accepistis; illi enim persecuti sunt carnem ambulantis in terra, uos euangelium sedentis in caelo. quod euangelium mitius pertulit saeuientium regum flammas quam uestras patitur linguas; nam illis incendentibus unitas mansit, uobis loquentibus manere non potuit. qui uerba domini exusta cupiebant aboleri, non credebant posse lecta contemni. non ergo illi in euangelio exercerent flammas suas, si eis contra euangelium promitteretis linguas uestras. in illa persecutione euangelium Christi ab aliis saeuientibus quaerebatur, ab aliis metuentibus prodebatur, ab aliis eruentibus incendebatur, ab aliis diligentibus abscondebatur, nullis contradicentibus oppugnabatur. sceleratiores uobis persecutionis partes transacta gentium persecutione seruastis: qui Christi nomen persequebantur Christo (non) crediderunt, qui propter Christi nomen honorantur Christo contradicunt.

Augustine answered: Would that your martyrs followed his pattern! They would not throw themselves down, which he did not do when the devil suggested it. But when you persecute our forebears, even the dead, with false witness, where did you receive this pattern? When you try to stain us with the crimes of unknown men, while you do not want the most notorious evil deeds of your own to harm you, where did you receive this pattern? But we are too proud if we are angry on our own account, when we see you bearing false witness against the Lord himself, since he both promised and displayed his church through all nations, and you contradict it. This pattern you did not receive even from the Jewish persecutors themselves; for they persecuted the flesh of one walking on earth, you the gospel of one sitting in heaven. That gospel bore the flames of raging kings more mildly than it suffers your tongues; for when they burned it, unity remained; when you speak, it could not remain. Those who wanted the Lord's words burned and abolished did not believe they could be despised once read. They would not have exercised their flames on the gospel if you had promised them your tongues against the gospel. In that persecution the gospel of Christ was sought by some in rage, betrayed by others in fear, burned by others who tore it out, hidden by others in love, attacked by none in contradiction. Now that the persecution by the Gentiles is over, you have kept for yourselves the more criminal parts of persecution: those who persecuted Christ's name did not believe in Christ; those who are honoured because of Christ's name contradict Christ.

Matt 4:6 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: The Donatists follow neither Christ's pattern nor even that of the pagan persecutors: they contradict the gospel's promise of a worldwide church.

  • Matt 4:6. The editor's round-bracketed “non” is translated.

Topics: Persecution, Martyrdom, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.193 (CSEL 52:119; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-193). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.194CSEL 52:119–120

Petilianus dixit: Ecce uobis plenissimum documentum, quod christiano non liceat in pernicie aliena uersari. disciplinae autem huius initium Petro est constitutum, sicut scriptum est: percussit Petrus auriculam serui principis Iudaeorum et abscidit eam. dixitque illi Iesus: Petre, reconde gladium tuum in theca; qui enim gladio utitur, gladio morietur. *

Petilian said: “Here you have the fullest proof that a Christian may not engage in the destruction of others. The beginning of this discipline was established for Peter, as it is written: ‘Peter struck the ear of the servant of the chief of the Jews and cut it off. And Jesus said to him: Peter, put your sword back in its sheath; for whoever uses the sword will die by the sword.’”

John 18:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 18:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:52 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian cites Christ's rebuke of Peter's sword.

  • John 18:10–11; Matt 26:51–52.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.194 (CSEL 52:119–120; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-194). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.195CSEL 52:120–121

Augustinus respondit: Cur ergo tali uoce non compescitis arma circumcellionum? an praeter euangelium uos loqui arbitremini, si dixeritis: (qui fuste usus fuerit, fuste morietur? date ergo ueniam, quia nec illos, a quibus Marculum praecipitatum esse querimini, potuerint prohibere maiores nostri. neque enim scriptum est in euangelio: (qui aliquem praecipitauerit, praecipitio morietur. atque utinam, sicut illa uel falsa uel transacta sunt, sic istorum ligna cessarent! quamquam fortasse irascimini, quod legionibus uestris etsi non legibus, saltem uerbis subtrahimus armaturam, quia eas solis saeuire fustibus dicimus. uetus quippe ista eorum militia fuit, nunc autem nimium profecerunt. nam inter uinulenta conuiuia et cum feminis maritos non habentibus liberam comitandi uagandi iocandi bibendi pernoctandi licentiam non solum fustes tornare, sed etiam ferrum uibrare et fundas circumagere didicerunt. sed cur eis non dicam — quo animo dicam et quo illi accipiant nouerit deus —: (insani, gladius Petri quamuis adhuc carnali motu animi, tamen pro Christi corpore in corpus persecutoris exertus est; uestra uero arma aduersus Christum diuisa sunt, corpus eius cui ille caput est, id est ecclesia eius, per omnes gentes est. ipse hoc dixit et ascendit in caelum, quo eum furor Iudaeorum sequi non potuit, et membra eius in corpore quod ascendens commendauit furor uester oppugnat. pro istis membris aduersus uos saeuiunt et uobis resistunt, quicumque in catholica paruae adhuc fidei eo animo sunt quo tunc Petrus fuit, cum ferrum pro Christi nomine strinxit. sed multum interest inter uestram persecutionem et istorum. uos similes estis seruo sacerdotis Iudaeorum, quia seruientes principibus uestris aduersus ecclesiam catholicam id est aduersus Christi corpus, armamini; isti autem tales: sunt qualis tunc Petrus fuit, qui pro Christi corpore, id est pro ecclesia, etiam corporaliter pugnant. sed si ipsis dicitur ut quiescant, sicut Petro tunc dictum est, quanto magis nobis dicendum est, ut haeretico furore deposito ad ea membra pertineatis pro quibus illi sic dimicant! sed laesi a talibus etiam nos odistis et, tamquam aures dexteras perdideritis, Christum sedentem ad patris dexteram non auditis. sed quibus loquar aut quando eis loquar, quibus nec horam inuenio uinum etiam mane ructuantibus siue iam ebrii siue adhuc? quin immo et minantur non solum illi, sed de illis etiam episcopi ipsorum, parati negare ad se pertinere quod fecerint. donet nobis dominus canticum graduum quo dicere possimus: cum his qui oderant pacem eram pacificus; cum loquebar eis, debellabant me gratis. dicit enim hoc corpus Christi, quod per totam terram ab aliis hic, ab aliis alibi et ab omnibus aliis atque aliis ubicumque sunt haereticis oppugnatur.

Augustine answered: Why, then, do you not restrain the weapons of the Circumcellions with such a word? Or do you think you would be speaking outside the gospel if you said, “Whoever uses a club will die by the club”? Forgive us, then, since our forebears could not prevent even those who, you complain, threw Marculus down. For it is not written in the gospel, “Whoever throws someone down will die by a fall.” And would that, as those things are either false or past, so these men's clubs would cease! Though perhaps you are angry that we strip your legions of their armour, if not by laws, at least by words, since we say they rage with clubs alone. That was indeed their old warfare; but now they have made great progress. For amid drunken feasts and with the free licence of accompanying, roaming, joking, drinking, and spending nights with women who have no husbands, they have learned not only to turn clubs but also to brandish iron and whirl slings. But why should I not say to them (God knows with what intention I say it and with what they receive it): “Madmen, Peter's sword, though still drawn by a fleshly impulse of mind, was nevertheless drawn for the body of Christ against the body of a persecutor; but your weapons are divided against Christ, whose body, of which he is the head, that is, his church, is through all nations. He himself said this and ascended into heaven, where the fury of the Jews could not follow him; and your fury attacks his members in the body which he commended as he ascended.” For these members, whoever in the Catholic Church are still of little faith and of the mind Peter had then, when he drew the sword for Christ's name, rage against you and resist you. But there is a great difference between your persecution and theirs. You are like the servant of the Jewish high priest, because, serving your leaders, you arm yourselves against the Catholic Church, that is, against Christ's body; but they are such as Peter was then, who fight even bodily for Christ's body, that is, for the church. But if they are told to be quiet, as Peter was told then, how much more must we tell you to lay aside heretical fury and belong to those members for which they fight so! But, wounded by such men, you even hate us, and, as if you had lost your right ears, you do not hear Christ sitting at the Father's right hand. But to whom shall I speak, or when shall I speak to them, when I cannot find an hour for those who belch wine even in the morning, whether already drunk or still drunk? Indeed, not only they threaten, but on their behalf their bishops too, ready to deny that what they have done concerns them. May the Lord give us the song of ascents in which we may say, “With those who hated peace I was peaceable; when I spoke to them, they fought against me without cause.” For this is said by the body of Christ, which throughout the whole earth is attacked by heretics, some here, some there, and by all of them, each in his own place.

Matt 26:52 (allusion, high confidence) · John 18:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 120:7 (119:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Circumcellions, not the Catholics, wield weapons; Peter's sword was drawn for Christ's body, theirs against it, and Catholics who resist them by force are like the still-weak Peter.

  • Matt 26:52; John 18:10; Col 1:18; Matt 14:31 (little faith); Ps 120:7 (119:7 LXX, a Song of Ascents). Marculus: see 2.32, 2.46.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; split word (OCR); stray hyphen): in -corpus → in corpus; id eat ecclesia → id est ecclesia; ebriir siue → ebrii siue; deb e II a ban t → debellabant.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.195 (CSEL 52:120–121; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-195). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.196CSEL 52:121

Petilianus dixit: Ergo, inquam, mortem pro fide subeundam constituit quam cuiquam pro communione faciendam. christianitas enim mortibus proficit. nam nemo fidissimus uiueret, si mors a fidelibus timeretur. dicit enim dominus christus: si granum tritici cadens in terram non moriatur, solum remanet; si autem moriatur, multum faciet fructum.

Petilian said: “So, I say, he established that death is to be undergone for the faith rather than inflicted on anyone for the sake of communion. For Christianity advances by deaths. For no one would live most faithful if death were feared by the faithful. For the Lord Christ says: ‘Unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.’”

John 12:24 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian says Christianity advances through martyrdom.

  • John 12:24.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray mark): proficit.?nam → proficit. nam.

Topics: Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.196 (CSEL 52:121; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-196). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Petschenig, CSEL 52 (1909) (digital text; corrections logged); compared afterwards with NPNF¹ 4 (King, 1887).

2.197CSEL 52:121–122

Augustinus respondit: Uellem scire quis primo de parte uestra se praecipitauerit. ualde quippe illud granum fertile fuit, unde tanta seges praecipitatorum cadauerum pullulauit. sane cum uerborum domini memineritis, quia se dixit granum moriturum et multum fructum fructum, quare ipsi fructui, quod per totum mundum feracissime prouenerit, inuidetis et ei zizaniorum uel paleae crimina, uel quae audistis uel quae finxistis, obicitis?

Augustine answered: I would like to know who on your side first threw himself down. That grain was very fertile indeed, from which so great a harvest of thrown-down corpses sprang up. Surely, since you remember the Lord's words, that he said he was the grain that would die and bear much fruit, why do you envy that very fruit, which has come forth so abundantly through the whole world, and charge it with the crimes of the tares or the chaff, either what you have heard or what you have invented?

John 12:24 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The grain that died is Christ, whose fruit fills the world; the Donatists' 'harvest' is suicides.

  • John 12:24. The digital text repeats “fructum”; translated by sense.

Topics: Martyrdom, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.197 (CSEL 52:121–122; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-197). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.198CSEL 52:122

Petilianus dixit: Sed uos spinas atque zizania, non semina spargitis, cum quibus uos in summo iudicio deceat concremari. non maledicimus;, sed omnis spinosa conscientia dei sententia sic tenetur.

Petilian said: “But you scatter thorns and tares, not seeds, with which it is fitting that you be burned up at the last judgment. We are not cursing; but every thorny conscience is held so by God's sentence.”

Matt 13:30 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:40 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian says the Catholics sow tares and will be burned.

  • Matt 13:30, 40.

Topics: Eschatology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.198 (CSEL 52:122; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-198). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.199CSEL 52:122

Augustinus respondit: Saltem commemoratione zizaniorum simul tibi et triticum ueniret in mentem, quia utraque per agrum iussa sunt crescere usque ad messem. uos autem oculum maliuolentiae in zizaniis acriter figitis et contra sententiam Christi ea sola per orbem terrarum excepta Africa creuisse contenditis.

Augustine answered: At least the mention of tares should have brought the wheat to your mind as well, since both were ordered to grow through the field until the harvest. But you fix the eye of malice sharply on the tares and contend, against Christ's sentence, that they alone have grown throughout the world, except in Africa.

Matt 13:30 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:38 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The parable says wheat and tares grow together throughout the field.

  • Matt 13:30, 38.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.199 (CSEL 52:122; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-199). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.200CSEL 52:122

Petilianus dixit: Ubi est quod dicit dominus Christus: si acceperis alapam, praepara et alteram maxillam? ubi est illud quod sputa in facie passus est, qui sputo suo sanctissimo caeci oculos patefecit? ubi est quod dicit apostolus Paulus: si quis uos in faciem caedit? ubi est quod iterum dicit: in plagis super modum, in mortibus frequenter, in carceribus abundantius? quae pertulit memorat, non quae fecit. suffecerat fecit christianae a Iudaeis haec fieri: cur haec miseri perpetratis?

Petilian said: “Where is what the Lord Christ says: ‘If you receive a slap, offer the other cheek also’? Where is the fact that he suffered spitting in his face, he who opened the eyes of the blind with his most holy spittle? Where is what the apostle Paul says: ‘If anyone strikes you on the face’? Where is what he says again: ‘in beatings beyond measure, in deaths often, in prisons more abundantly’? He recalls what he suffered, not what he did. It should have been enough for Christianity that these things were done by the Jews; why do you wretches commit them?”

Matt 5:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:67 (allusion, high confidence) · John 9:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 11:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 11:23 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian contrasts Christ's and Paul's patience with Catholic violence.

  • Matt 5:39; Matt 26:67; John 9:6; 2 Cor 11:20, 23. The sentence “It should have been enough…” is garbled in the digital text; translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): iterum diciti: → iterum dicit:; in m.ortibus → in mortibus.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.200 (CSEL 52:122; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-200). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.201CSEL 52:122–123

Augustinus respondit: Itane uero uos accepta alapa praebetis alteram maxillam? non istam uobis famam furiosa uestra agmina per totam Africam cum terribili turpitudine passim uagantia compararunt. utinam uobiscum paciscerentur homines, ut saltem secundum ueterem legem oculum pro oculo, dentem pro dente peteretis, non pro auditis uerbis fustes erigeretis!

Augustine answered: Do you really, when slapped, offer the other cheek? Your raging bands, roaming everywhere through all Africa with terrible shamelessness, have not earned you that reputation. Would that men could make an agreement with you, that at least, according to the old law, you would demand an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and not raise clubs in return for words heard!

Matt 5:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 21:24 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Circumcellions' violence belies any Donatist claim to turn the other cheek.

  • Matt 5:39; Exod 21:24.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): maxill] am P → maxillam?.

Topics: Persecution, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.201 (CSEL 52:122–123; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-201). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.202CSEL 52:123–126

Petilianus dixit: Quid autem uolti;s e. it cum regibus saeculi, quos numquam christianitas nisi inuidos sensit quod ut breuiter doceam, Machabaeos fratres rex persecutus est; rex quoque tres pueros, cum ipse sacrilegus esset, flammis nescius religiosis (addixit; rex quaesiuit animam pueri saluatoris; rex iustissimum Danihelem ferinis morsibus, ut putabat, obiecit, ipsumque dominum Christum iudex nequissimus regis occidit. inde est quod apostolus clamat; sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos, sapientiam non huius saeculi neque principum huius mundi quae euacuatur; sed loquimur dei sapientiam in sacramento, quae fuit abscondita, quam constituit deus ante saecula in gloriam nostram, quam nemo principum huius saeculi cognouit; si enim cognouissent, non utique dominum maiestatis crucifixissent. sed de pristinis regibus paganis is hoc dictum sit. uos autem huius saeculi imperatores, quia christiani esse desiderent, non permittitis esse christianos, cum fuco et nebula uestri mendacii eosdem bona - mente credentes ad iniquitatem uestram prorsus adducitis, ut armis suis contra hostes rei publicae praeparatis in christianos incurrant putentque se suasionibus uestris deo officium facere, si nos quos odistis occidant, dicente domino Christo: ueniet, inquit, tempus, ut qui uos occiderit putet se deo officium facere. nihil igitur interest nobis male docentibus, utrum reges orbis terrarum pagani, quod absit, an christiani esse desiderent, cum eosdem contra Christi familiam non cessatis (armare. nescitis autem aut potius non legistis, quod crimine hominem occidentis maius crimen est suasoris? Iexabel in mortem hominis iusti uel pauperis maritum suum excitauerat regem: pari tamen supplicio uir et uxor ambo perierunt. neque enim uos aliter reges impellitis, quam ut saepe subtilis suadella feminea reges impulit in reatum. etenim per filiam uxor Herodis impetrauit ac meruit in disco ad mensam caput Iohannis afferri. Pontium Pilatum Iudaei sic coegerunt, ut Christum dominum cruci subfigeret, cuius sanguinem uindicem super se semper ac suos manere uoluerunt. ita uos igitur sanguine nostro peccantes obruitis. non enim, etsi index percutiat, non uestrae nos potius calumniae ferierunt, dicit enim propheta Dauid ex domini Christi persona: quare fremuerunt gentes et populi meditati sunt inania? adstiterunt reges terrae et principes conuenerunt in unum aduersus dominum et aduersus christum eius. disrumpamus uincula eorum et abiciamus a nobis iugum ipsorum. qui habitat in caelis, irridebit eos, et dominus subsannabit illos. tunc loquetur ad eos in ira sua et in furore suo conturbabit eos. ego autem constitutus sum rex ab eo super Sion montem sanctum eius, praedicans praeceptum eius. dominus dixit ad me: filius mens es tu, ego hodie genui te. pete a me et dabo tibi gentes hereditatem tuam et possessionem tuam terminos terrae. reges eos in uirga ferrea et tamquam uas figuli illos comminues. ipsosque idem reges, ite quasi ignari uel nescii persequi cuperent christianos, his praeceptis admonuit, ne perirent. quae illos praecepta, quia nesciunt, utinam doceremus, aut certe uos illis sine dubio ostenderetis, si uelletis 111 uiuerent, uel ccrte, quod tertium est, ipsos sibimet legere uestra malitia permisisset! primus dauiticus psalmus illis omnino suaderet, ut christiani maerent et regnarent. quos quidem male decepistis, dum uobis sese committunt; uos namque illis quae mala sunt fingitis et quae bona sunt occultatis. hoc tandem legant uel serius, quod olim legere debuerunt. quid enim dicit? et nunc, reges, intellegite, erudimini qui indicatis terram, seruite domino in timore et exultate ei cum tremore, apprehendite disciplinam, ne quando irascatur dominus et pereatis de uia iusta. cum exarserit quam cito ira ipsius super uos, beati omnes qui confidunt in eo. imperatores, inquam, suasionibus premitis, III Pilatum, quem diximus, Iudaei presserunt, licet ipse clamauerit lauans publice manus: liber sum a sanguine ine hu ius iusti. tamen quomodo potest a crimine mundus esse qui fecit sed ut uetera taceam, in uestris exemplis aduertite imperatores quam plures ac iudices uestros persecutionem nobis faciendo perisse. ut relinquam Neronem, qui primus persecutus est christianos, Domitianum similiter Neronis maximam partem, Traianum Getam Decium Ualerianum Diocletianum, perit etiam Maximianus. qui cum tura praedicerent, incensis codicibus dominicis primus Marcellinus, episcopus Romanorum qui fuit, sed et Carthaginis Meusurius et Caecilianus ex ipsis sacrilcgis flammis 111 fauillae uel cineres remanserunt. turis enim conscientia implicuit, qui Mensitrio consensistis. perit Macarius, perit Ursatius cunctique comites uestri dei pariter uindicta perierunt. Ursatium namque barbarica pugna prostratum sacuis unguibus alites canumque alites dente.-; morsibus discerpserunt. nonne idem uestro impulsu percussor est, qui ut rex Achab, quem diximus a muliere percussor, iustum pauperem occidit? ita uos quoque iustos et pauperes — circa opem dixerim mundanam; narra gratia dei in nobis non est pauper — non desinitis iugulare. non enim, si tamen manu non facitis, non lingua. carnifice hominem iugulatis. scriptum est enim: mors et uita in manibus linguae. omnes ergo qui occisi sunt tu qui suasor es occidisti, neque enim manus carnificis nisi lingua tua feruescit et ille durus pectoris calor in alienum sanguinem uerbis tuis accenditur, sanguinem uerbis sui uindicem diffusorum,

Petilian said: “But what have you to do with the kings of the world, whom Christianity has never found anything but envious? To show this briefly: a king persecuted the Maccabean brothers; a king too, though he himself was sacrilegious, unknowingly consigned three boys to the religious flames; a king sought the life of the Saviour as a child; a king threw most righteous Daniel to the bites of wild beasts, as he thought; and the Lord Christ himself was killed by a king's most wicked judge. Hence the apostle cries: ‘We speak wisdom among the perfect, a wisdom not of this age nor of the rulers of this world, which is being brought to nothing; but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, which was hidden, which God established before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for if they had known it, they would surely not have crucified the Lord of majesty.’ But let this be said of the ancient pagan kings. You, however, do not allow the emperors of this age to be Christians, though they desire to be Christians; with the paint and fog of your lie you lead them, who believe with good intention, right into your iniquity, so that with their weapons, prepared against the enemies of the state, they attack Christians and think, by your persuasion, that they are doing God a service if they kill us whom you hate; as the Lord Christ says: ‘The time will come,’ he says, ‘when whoever kills you will think he is doing God a service.’ So it makes no difference to us, with you teaching evil, whether the kings of the world desire to be pagans, which God forbid, or Christians, since you do not cease arming them against Christ's household. Do you not know, or rather have you not read, that the persuader's crime is greater than that of the one who kills a man? Jezebel had roused her husband the king to the death of a righteous or poor man; yet husband and wife both perished with equal punishment. For you push kings on no otherwise than as subtle feminine persuasion has often pushed kings into guilt. For Herod's wife, through her daughter, obtained and won that John's head be brought on a dish to the table. The Jews so compelled Pontius Pilate that he fastened the Lord Christ to the cross, whose avenging blood they wished to remain always upon themselves and their children. So you too, sinning, overwhelm yourselves with our blood. For even if the judge strikes, is it not rather your slanders that have struck us? For the prophet David says in the person of the Lord Christ: ‘Why have the nations raged, and the peoples devised vain things? The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers gathered together against the Lord and against his Christ. Let us break their bonds and cast their yoke from us. He who dwells in heaven will laugh at them, and the Lord will mock them. Then he will speak to them in his anger and trouble them in his fury. But I have been set as king by him on Zion, his holy mountain, proclaiming his decree. The Lord said to me: You are my Son; today I have begotten you. Ask of me, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance and the ends of the earth as your possession. You will rule them with a rod of iron and break them like a potter's vessel.’ And he warned these same kings with these commands, so that they might not desire, as it were in ignorance or unknowing, to persecute Christians, lest they perish. Would that we could teach them these commands, since they do not know them; or at least that you would show them to them without doubt, if you wanted them to live; or at least, as a third choice, that your malice had allowed them to read them for themselves! The first Davidic psalm would entirely persuade them to remain Christians and reign. You have badly deceived them while they trust themselves to you; for you invent evil things for them and hide good things. Let them read this at last, even late, which they ought to have read long ago. For what does it say? ‘And now, kings, understand; be instructed, you who judge the earth. Serve the Lord in fear and rejoice in him with trembling. Lay hold of discipline, lest the Lord be angry and you perish from the just way, when his anger is quickly kindled against you. Blessed are all who trust in him.’ You press the emperors, I say, with your persuasions, as the Jews pressed Pilate, whom we mentioned, though he cried out, washing his hands publicly, ‘I am free of the blood of this righteous man.’ Yet how can he be clean of the crime who did it? But to say nothing of old things, notice in your own examples how many emperors and judges of yours perished in persecuting us. To leave aside Nero, who first persecuted the Christians, Domitian too, much like Nero, Trajan, Geta, Decius, Valerian, Diocletian; Maximian also perished. When they ordered incense, and the Lord's books were burned, first Marcellinus, who was bishop of the Romans, and also Mensurius of Carthage and Caecilian, remained as embers or ashes from those very sacrilegious flames. For the guilt of the incense entangled you who agreed with Mensurius. Macarius perished, Ursatius perished, and all your counts likewise perished by God's vengeance. For Ursatius, laid low in a battle with barbarians, was torn apart by the cruel claws of birds and the greedy teeth of dogs. Is not he too a murderer at your urging, who, like King Ahab, whom we said was struck at a woman's instigation, killed a righteous poor man? So you too do not cease to slaughter the righteous and poor (poor, I mean, in worldly wealth; for God's grace in us is not poor). For even if you do not do it with your hand, you slaughter a man with your tongue as executioner. For it is written, ‘Death and life are in the hands of the tongue.’ So all who have been killed, you, the persuader, have killed; for the executioner's hand does not grow hot except by your tongue, and that hard heat of the breast is kindled for another's blood by your words, the blood that avenges the words of those who poured it out.”

Dan 3:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 2:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Dan 6:16 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:2 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 21:7 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 21:19 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 14:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 27:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 2:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 2:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Prov 18:21 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Petilian argues that kings have always persecuted the righteous, that Catholics incite Christian emperors against Donatists, and that persecutors and alleged traitors perished by God's vengeance.

  • The digital text of this section is badly damaged in many places; obvious slips are corrected below and the rest is translated by sense.
  • 2 Macc 7; Dan 3; Matt 2:13–16; Dan 6:16; 1 Cor 2:6–8; John 16:2; 1 Kgs 21 (Naboth); Matt 14:8–11; Matt 27:24–25; Ps 2:1–12; Prov 18:21. Marcellinus of Rome, Mensurius of Carthage, and Caecilian were accused by the Donatists of offering incense and handing over the Scriptures in the Diocletianic persecution. Macarius led the imperial mission of 347; Ursatius was a count who acted against the Donatists in the 340s.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; split words (OCR)): Machabacos fratres re.r → Machabaeos fratres rex; loquimur dci sapientiam → loquimur dei sapientiam; ne pei-irent → ne perirent; apprehenditc → apprehendite; con fid un fin eo → confidunt in eo; persecutionem nobis faciendo j)erisse → persecutionem nobis faciendo perisse; om?ies → omnes.

Extrabiblical texts: 2 Macc 7:1 (2 Maccabees [in RC, EO canons]; allusion)

Topics: Persecution, Martyrdom, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. litt. Pet. 2.202 (CSEL 52:123–126; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-litteras-petiliani/2-202). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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