Eranistes (The Beggar), or Polymorphus 2.25–2.33
Greek text: PG 83.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 2
2.25PG 83
ΕΡΑΝ. Ἴσα τοίνυν ἔσται τῷ Δεσποτιχῷ σώματι «ὧν ἁγίων τὰ σώματα; ΟΡΘ. Τῆς μὲν ἀφθαρσίας, καὶ μέντοι καὶ τῆς ἀθανασίας μεθέξει καὶ ταῦτα. Κοινωνήσει δὲ καὶ τῆς δόξης, καθά φησιν ὁ ᾿Απόστολος" ε Εἴπερ συμπάσχομεν, ἵνα καὶ συνδοξασθῶμεν. » Ἐν δέ γε τῇ ποσότητι πολὺ τὸ διάφορον ἔστιν εὑρεῖν, καὶ τοσοῦτον, ὅσον ἡλίου πρὸς ἁστέρας, μᾶλλον δὲ ὅσον δεσπότου πρὸς δούλους, καὶ τοῦ φωτίζοντος πρὸς τὸ ὅμως τῶν οἰκείων ὀνομάτων τοῖς δούλοις, καὶ φῶς καλούμενος, φῶς τοὺς ἁγίους ἐκάλεσεν" « Ὑμεῖ; γὰρ, φησὶν, ἐστὲ τὸ φῶς φοῦ κόσμου. ) Καὶ ἥλιος διχαιοτύνης ὀνομαζόμενος, κερὶ τῶν δούλων φησί" ε« Τότε ἐκλάμψουσιν οἱ δίπκαιοι ὡς ὁ ἥλιος. ν» Κατὰ τὸ ποιὸν τοίνυν, οὐ κατὰ τὸ ποσὸν, σύμμορφα ἔσται τῷ Δεσποτιχῷ σώματι τῶν ἁγίων τὰ σώματα. Ἰδού σοι διαῤῥήδην ἐδείξαμὲν ὅπερ ἡμᾶς ἐπήγγειλας. Εἰ δέ σοι δοκεῖ, καὶ ἑτέρως τοῦτο σκοπήσωμεν. ΕΡΑΝ. Πάντα δεῖ λίθον κινεῖν, κατὰ τὴν παροιμίαν, ὥστε τὸ ἀληθὲς ἐξευρεῖν, οὐκ ἥκιστα δὲ θείων προκειμένων δογμάτων. ΟΡΘ. Εἰπὲ τοίνυν, τὰ μυστικὰ σύμδολα παρὰ τῶν ἱερωμένων τῷ Θεῷ προσφερόμενα, τίνων ἐστὶ σύμβολα; ἘΡΑΝ. Τοῦ Δεσποτικοῦ σώματός τε καὶ αἵματος. ΟΡΘ. Τοῦ ὄντως σώματος ἣ οὐκ ὄντως; ΟΡΘ. "Αριστα’' χρὴ γὰρ εἶναι τὸ τῆς ἰγδνοΣ ἂρχέτυπον. Καὶ γὰρ οἱ ζωγράφοι τὴν φύσιν μιμοῦνται, καὶ τῶν ὁρωμένων γράφουσι τὰς εἰκόνας. τοίνυν τοῦ ὄντως σώματος ἀντιτυπα εστι τὰ θεῖα μυστήρια, σῶμα ἄρα ἐστὶ καὶ νῦν τοῦ Δεσπότου τὸ σῶμα, οὐκ εἰς θεότητος φύσιν ἰξοδλης θὲν, ἀλλὰ θείας δόξης ἀναπληαθέν. ᾿ ΕΡΑΝ, Εἰς καιρὸν τὸν περὶ τῶν θείων ὐδτηρίων ἐχίνησας λόγον" ἐντεῦθέν σοι γὰρ δείξω τοῦ Δεαποτιχοῦ σώματος τὴν εἰς ἑτέραν 'φύσιν μεταδολήν. ᾿Αἀπόχριναι τοίνυν πρὸς τὰς ἐμὰς ἐρώτήησεις,. ΕΡΑΝ. Τί καλεῖς τὸ προσφερόμενον δαρὸν πρὸ. ΟΡΘ. Οὐ χρὴ σαφῶς εἰπεῖν" εἰκὸς τὰρ ΕΣ ἀμυὴ: τοὺς παρεῖναι. ὈΡΘ. Τὴν ἐκ τοιῶνδε σπερμάτων τροφήν." ΕΡΑΝ. Τὸ δὲ ἕτερον οὐ ἐδόλον πῶς ἐνβάξομεν; Κοινὸν καὶ τοῦτο ἔνοβα; πόματος εἶδος ΕΡΑΝ. Μετὰ δέ νε τὸν ἁγιασμὸν, πῶς ταῦτα πρδ: ΟΡΘ. Σῶμα Χριστοῦ, καὶ αἷμα Χριατοῦ,. ΕΡΑΝ. Καὶ πιστεύεις γε σώματός Χριστοῦ ξετ: ΕΡΑΝ. Ὥσπερ τοίνυν τὰ σύμβολά τοῦ Δεσποτικοῦ σώματός τε καὶ αἴματος, ἄλλα μέν εἰσι πρὸ τῆς ἱερατικῇς ἐπικλήσεως, μετὰ δέ γε τὴν ἐπίκλησιν μεταὀάλλεται, καὶ ἕτερα γίνεται: οὕτω τὸ Δεσποτιχκὸν σῶμα μετὰ τὴν ΕΝ; εἰς τὴν οὐσίαν μετεδλήθη τὴν θείαν... ΟΡΘ. «Ἑάλως αἷς ὕ δρηνεξ ἄρκυσιν. Οὐδὲ γὰρ μετὰ τὸν ἁγιασμὸν τὰ μυστικὰ σύμδολα τῆς οἰκείας ἐξίσταται φύσεως" μένει γὰρ ἐπὶ τῆς προτέράς οὐδίας, καὶ τοῦ σχήματος, καὶ τοῦ εἴδους, καὶ ὁρατά ἐστι, καὶ ἀπτὰ, οἷκ. καὶ πρότερον ἦν᾽ νοεῖται δὲ ἅπερ ἐγένετο, καὶ πιστεύεται, καὶ πρασχυνεῖται, ὡς ἐκεῖνα ὄντα. ἅπερ πιστεύεται. Παράθες. τοίνυν τῷ ἀρχετύπῳ τὴν εἰχόνδι, καὶ ὄψει τὴν ὁμοιότητα. Χρὴ γὰρ ἐοικέναι τῇ ἀληθείᾳ τὸν τύπον. Καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνο τὸ σῶμα τὸ μὲν πρότερον εἶδος ἔχει, καὶ αχῆμα, καὶ ξεριγραφὴν, καὶ ἀπαξαπλῶς εἰπεῖν, τὴν τοῦ σώματος οὐσίαν ἀθάνατον δὲ μετὰ τὴν ἀνάσταδιν γέγονέ, καὶ χρεῖττον φθορᾶς, καὶ τῆς ἐκ δεξιῶν ἠξιώθη καθέδρας, καὶ παρὰ πάσης προσκυνεῖται τῆς χτίδεως, ἅτε δὴ σῶμα χρηματίξον τοῦ Δεσπότου (τῆς Ὁ φύσεως.
ERAN. Isa toinyn estai tǭ Despotichǭ sōmati «hōn hagiōn ta sōmata? ORTh. Tēs men aphtharsias, kai mentoi kai tēs athanasias methexei kai tauta. Koinōnēsei de kai tēs doxēs, katha phēsin ho ᾿Apostolos" e Eiper sympaschomen, hina kai syndoxasthōmen. » En de ge tę̄ posotēti poly to diaphoron estin heurein, kai tosouton, hoson hēliou pros hasteras, mallon de hoson despotou pros doulous, kai tou phōtizontos pros to homōs tōn oikeiōn onomatōn tois doulois, kai phōs kaloumenos, phōs tous hagious ekalesen" « Hymei? gar, phēsin, este to phōs phou kosmou. ) Kai hēlios dichaiotynēs onomazomenos, keri tōn doulōn phēsi" e« Tote eklampsousin hoi dipkaioi hōs ho hēlios. n» Kata to poion toinyn, ou kata to poson, symmorpha estai tǭ Despotichǭ sōmati tōn hagiōn ta sōmata. Idou soi diarrhēdēn edeixamen hoper hēmas epēngeilas. Ei de soi dokei, kai heterōs touto skopēsōmen. ERAN. Panta dei lithon kinein, kata tēn paroimian, hōste to alēthes exeurein, ouk hēkista de theiōn prokeimenōn dogmatōn. ORTh. Eipe toinyn, ta mystika symdola para tōn hierōmenōn tǭ Theǭ prospheromena, tinōn esti symbola? ERAN. Tou Despotikou sōmatos te kai haimatos. ORTh. Tou ontōs sōmatos hē ouk ontōs? ORTh. "Arista’' chrē gar einai to tēs igdnoS archetypon. Kai gar hoi zōgraphoi tēn physin mimountai, kai tōn horōmenōn graphousi tas eikonas. toinyn tou ontōs sōmatos antitypa esti ta theia mystēria, sōma ara esti kai nyn tou Despotou to sōma, ouk eis theotētos physin ixodlēs then, alla theias doxēs anaplēathen. ᾿ ERAN, Eis kairon ton peri tōn theiōn ydtēriōn echinēsas logon" enteuthen soi gar deixō tou Deapotichou sōmatos tēn eis heteran 'physin metadolēn. ᾿Aapochrinai toinyn pros tas emas erōtēēseis,. ERAN. Ti kaleis to prospheromenon daron pro. ORTh. Ou chrē saphōs eipein" eikos tar ES amyē: tous pareinai. ORTh. Tēn ek toiōnde spermatōn trophēn." ERAN. To de heteron ou edolon pōs enbaxomen? Koinon kai touto enoba? pomatos eidos ERAN. Meta de ne ton hagiasmon, pōs tauta prd: ORTh. Sōma Christou, kai haima Chriatou,. ERAN. Kai pisteueis ge sōmatos Christou xet: ERAN. Hōsper toinyn ta symbola tou Despotikou sōmatos te kai aimatos, alla men eisi pro tēs hieratikę̄s epiklēseōs, meta de ge tēn epiklēsin metaoalletai, kai hetera ginetai: houtō to Despotichkon sōma meta tēn EN? eis tēn ousian metedlēthē tēn theian... ORTh. «Healōs hais hy drēnex arkysin. Oude gar meta ton hagiasmon ta mystika symdola tēs oikeias existatai physeōs" menei gar epi tēs proteras oudias, kai tou schēmatos, kai tou eidous, kai horata esti, kai apta, hoik. kai proteron ēn᾽ noeitai de haper egeneto, kai pisteuetai, kai praschyneitai, hōs ekeina onta. haper pisteuetai. Parathes. toinyn tǭ archetypǭ tēn eichondi, kai opsei tēn homoiotēta. Chrē gar eoikenai tę̄ alētheią ton typon. Kai gar ekeino to sōma to men proteron eidos echei, kai achēma, kai xerigraphēn, kai apaxaplōs eipein, tēn tou sōmatos ousian athanaton de meta tēn anastadin gegone, kai chreitton phthoras, kai tēs ek dexiōn ēxiōthē kathedras, kai para pasēs proskyneitai tēs chtideōs, hate dē sōma chrēmatixon tou Despotou (tēs Ho physeōs.
Eranistes: Then the bodies of the saints will be equal to the Master's body? Orthodoxos: They too will share in incorruption, and indeed in immortality. They will share in the glory too, as the Apostle says, “If indeed we suffer with him, so that we may also be glorified with him.” But in quantity much difference can be found, as great as that of the sun to the stars, or rather that of a master to slaves, and of what gives light to what is lit … Yet he has given his own names to the slaves: being called light, he called the saints light: “For you,” he says, “are the light of the world.” And being named sun of righteousness, he says of the slaves, “Then the righteous will shine like the sun.” In quality, then, not in quantity, the bodies of the saints will be conformed to the Master's body. See, we have shown you expressly what you required of us. But if you like, let us consider this in another way too. Eranistes: One must move every stone, as the proverb says, to find the truth, especially when divine doctrines are in question. Orthodoxos: Tell me, then: the mystical symbols offered to God by those who serve as priests, of what are they symbols? Eranistes: Of the Master's body and blood. Orthodoxos: Of the real body, or not of a real one? … Orthodoxos: Excellent; for the archetype of the image must exist. For painters too imitate nature and paint the images of things that are seen. If, then, the divine mysteries are antitypes of the real body, then the Master's body is a body even now, not changed into the nature of the Godhead but filled with divine glory. Eranistes: You have raised the discussion of the divine mysteries at the right moment; for from this I will show you the change of the Master's body into another nature. Answer, then, my questions. … Eranistes: What do you call the gift that is offered, before …? Orthodoxos: One ought not to say it plainly, for it is likely that some uninitiated are present. … Orthodoxos: The food made from such and such seeds. Eranistes: And the other symbol, how do we name it? [Orthodoxos:] This too is a common name, signifying a kind of drink. … Eranistes: And after the consecration, how do you name these? Orthodoxos: Body of Christ and blood of Christ. Eranistes: And you believe that you partake of the body of Christ …? … Eranistes: Just as, then, the symbols of the Master's body and blood are one thing before the priestly invocation, but after the invocation are changed and become another thing, so the Master's body after the [ascension] was changed into the divine substance. Orthodoxos: You are caught in the nets you wove yourself. For not even after the consecration do the mystical symbols depart from their own nature; for they remain in their former substance, and shape, and form, and are visible and tangible, just as they were before. But they are understood to be what they have become, and are believed and worshiped, as being those things which they are believed to be. Set the image, then, beside the archetype, and you will see the likeness; for the type must resemble the truth. For that body too has its former form, and shape, and circumscription, and in a word the substance of a body; but after the resurrection it became immortal and above corruption, and was deemed worthy of the seat at the right hand, and is worshiped by all creation, since it is called the body of the Master of nature.
Rom 8:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:41 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 8:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Mal 4:2 (3:20 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:43 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:26 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The saints' bodies will share Christ's glory in quality, not quantity; and in the eucharistic argument, Orthodoxos answers Eranistes that the consecrated symbols, though called and worshiped as Christ's body and blood, remain in their own substance, as Christ's glorified body remains a body.
- Eucharistic passage translated exactly. Orthodoxos says that after the consecration the symbols 'remain in their former substance, and shape, and form' and 'are understood to be what they have become, and are believed and worshiped' as Christ's body and blood; the bread and wine are called 'antitypes' of the real body. These statements are Theodoret's; later traditions read them differently. Eranistes uses the 'change' of the symbols at the priestly invocation as an analogy for a change of Christ's body into the divine substance. Several replies have dropped out of the OCR where '…' is printed. Migne's Latin column and marginal references read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Rom 8:17; 1 Cor 15:41 (allusion); John 8:12; Matt 5:14; Mal 4:2 (LXX 3:20); Matt 13:43; Matt 26:26–28.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word; marginal references read into a word): θη ςθοἀφ η οἵ αυϊ Ἰυκ {ἰ αι → ; σύμ- Ὁ ὁοτάοιθυβ → σύμβολα; ; Δεαἰδ. ΜΔ). χα, ἐδ. ἔκ τυ τς, → Δεσπότου ; ὁη- ᾿αἷ τὴ ἤρυτδπι ϑἰ ει Ὁ τς 18 Ὗ τὶρομοιι, οἱ αἱ,811 : ἐπ μη οΓ[8}6 δυίαπι ροϑὶ ΤΟΒΌΓΓΘΟΙΙΟμο πὶ, οἱ δὰ. Νο- : → .
Topics: Eucharist, Christology, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.25 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-25
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.26PG 83
ΕΡΑΝ. Καὶ μὴν τὸ μυστικὸν σύμδολον τὴν προτέραν ἀμείόει πρασηγορίαν' οὐκέτι γὰρ ὀνομάζεται ὅπερ πρότερον ἐκαλεῖτο, ἀλλὰ σῶμα προσαγορεύεται. Χρὴ τοίνυν καὶ τὴν ἀλήθειαν θεν ἀλλὰ Ῥὴ σῶμα καλεῖσθαι. ΟΡΘ. ᾿Αγνοεῖν. οι οχείς.. Οὐ γὰρ αῶμα μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἄρτος ζωῆς ὀνομάζεται. Οὕὔτως αὐτὸς ὁ Κύριος προσηγόρευσε, καὶ αὐτὸ δὲ τὸ σῶμα, θεῖον ὀνομάζομεν σῶμα, καὶ ζωοποιὸν, καὶ Δεσποτιχὰν, καὶ Κυριακὸν, διδάσκοντες ὡς οὐ κοινόν τινός ἔστιν ἀνθρώπον, ἀλλὰ τοῦ Κυρίου ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὃς Θεός ἔστι καὶ ἄνθρωπος. ε Ἰησοῦς γὰρ Χριστὸς χθὲς καὶ σήμερον, ὁ αὐτὸς καὶ εἷς τοὺς αἰῶνας. », ἘΡΑΝ. Πολλοὺς μὲν περὶ τούτου διεξελήλυθας λόγους᾽ ἐγὼ δὲ τοῖς ἐν ταῖς Ἐκκλησίαις πάλαι διαλάμψασιν ἀκολουβὼ ἁγίοις. Δεῖξον τοίνυν ἐκείνους μετὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν διαιροῦντας τῷ λόγῳ τὰς φύσεις. ΟΡΘ. Ἐγὼ μέν σοι τοὺς ἐχείνων ἀναγνώσομαι πόνους" σὺ δὲ θαυμάσεις, εὖ οἶδα, τὴν τῆς διαιρέσεως ἀμετρίαν, Ὧν τοῖς οἰκείοις συγγράμμασιν ἐντεθείχασι, πρὸς τὰς δυσσεῤεῖς αἱρέσει: ἀγωνιζόμενοι. τοίνυν ἐχείνων, ὧν ἤδη τὰς μαρτυρίας σοι παρηγάἴομεν, ἄντικρυς ταῦτα καὶ διαῤῥήδην λεγόντων.
ERAN. Kai mēn to mystikon symdolon tēn proteran ameioei prasēgorian' ouketi gar onomazetai hoper proteron ekaleito, alla sōma prosagoreuetai. Chrē toinyn kai tēn alētheian then alla Rhē sōma kaleisthai. ORTh. ᾿Agnoein. oi ocheis.. Ou gar aōma monon, alla kai artos zōēs onomazetai. Houytōs autos ho Kyrios prosēgoreuse, kai auto de to sōma, theion onomazomen sōma, kai zōopoion, kai Despotichan, kai Kyriakon, didaskontes hōs ou koinon tinos estin anthrōpon, alla tou Kyriou hēmōn Iēsou Christou, hos Theos esti kai anthrōpos. e Iēsous gar Christos chthes kai sēmeron, ho autos kai heis tous aiōnas. », ERAN. Pollous men peri toutou diexelēlythas logous᾽ egō de tois en tais Ekklēsiais palai dialampsasin akoloubō hagiois. Deixon toinyn ekeinous meta tēn henōsin diairountas tǭ logǭ tas physeis. ORTh. Egō men soi tous echeinōn anagnōsomai ponous" sy de thaumaseis, eu oida, tēn tēs diaireseōs ametrian, Hōn tois oikeiois syngrammasin entetheichasi, pros tas dyssereis hairesei: agōnizomenoi. toinyn echeinōn, hōn ēdē tas martyrias soi parēgaiomen, antikrys tauta kai diarrhēdēn legontōn.
Eranistes: And yet the mystical symbol changes its former name; for it is no longer named what it was called before, but is called body. So the truth too must be called [God], and not body. Orthodoxos: You seem to me to be ignorant. For it is called not only body but also bread of life; so the Lord himself named it. And the body itself we name divine body, and life-giving, and the Master's and the Lord's, teaching that it is not the body of some ordinary human being but of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is God and human. “For Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” Eranistes: You have gone through many arguments about this; but I follow the saints who shone in the churches long ago. Show me, then, those men dividing the natures in speech after the union. Orthodoxos: I will read you their labors; and you will wonder, I know well, at the measurelessness of the division which they set down in their own writings in their contest against the impious heresies. [Hear], then, those whose testimonies we have already brought you, saying these things plainly and expressly.
John 6:35 (allusion, high confidence) · John 6:48 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 13:8 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Orthodoxos answers that the eucharistic symbol is also called 'bread of life' and that Christ's body is called divine and life-giving as the body of one who is God and man, and introduces the Fathers who distinguish the natures after the union.
- The end of Eranistes' first speech is garbled in the OCR; '[God]' is supplied from the sense. Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged correction). Scripture: John 6:35, 48; Heb 13:8.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters): Πεοὺς 68ὲ οἱ Ποιηο.- 7680. δηΐπὶ Ομ γίβίυβ ποτὶ οἱ ἢο → .
Topics: Eucharist, Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.26 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-26
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.27PG 83
Τοῦ ἁγίου Ἰγνατίου ἐπισκόπου ᾿Αγντιοχείας καὶ μάρτυρος. Ἐκ τῆς πρὸς Σμυρναίους ἐπιστοιῆς. --- Ἐγὼ γὰρ καὶ μετὰ τὴν ἀνάστασιν ἐν σαρκὶ αὐτὸν οἷδα καὶ πιστεύω ὄντα, καὶ ὅτε πρὸς τοὺς περὶ Πέτρον ἦλθεν, ἔφη αὐτοῖς, « Λάδετε, Ψψηλαφήσατέ με, καὶ ἴδετε, ὅτι οὐκ εἰμὶ δαιμόνιον ἀσώματον. ν Καὶ εὐθὺς αὐτοῦ ἥψαντο, καὶ ἐπίστευσαν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὐτῆς ἐπιστολῆς. Μετὰ δὲ τὴν ἀνάστασιν, καὶ καίπερ πνευματικῶς ἡνωμένος τῷ Πατρί. Εἰρηναίου τοῦ παλαιοῦ ἐπισκόπου Λουγδούνου. Ἐκ τοῦ τρίτου “όγου τῶν εἰς τὰς αἱρέσεις. Ἥνωσεν οὖν, καθὼς προέφαμεν, τὸν ἄνθρωπον τῷ Θεῷ. Εἰ γὰρ μὴ ἄνθρωπος ἐνίκησεν τὸν ἀντίπαλον τοῦ ἀνθρώπου, οὐκ ἂν δικαίως ἐνιχήθη ὁ ἐχθρός" πάλιν τε, εἰ μὴ ὃ Θεὸς ἐδωρήσατο τὴν σωτηρίαν, οὐκ ἂν βεδαίως ἔσχομεν αὐτήν" καὶ εἰ μὴ συνηνώθη ὁ ὦ ἄνθρωπος τῷ Θεῷ, οὐκ ἂν ἠδυνήθη μετασχεῖν τῆς ἀφθαρσίας. "Ἔδει γὰρ τὸν μεσίτην Θεοῦ τε καὶ ἀνθρώπων, διὰ τῆς ἰδίας πρὸς ἑκατέρους οἰκειότητος, εἰς φιλίαν καὶ ὁμόνοιαν τοὺς ἀμφοτέρους συναγαγεῖν, καὶ Θεῷ μὲν παραστῆσαι τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ἀνθρώποις δὲ γνωρίσα: τὸν θεόν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ τρίτου.ῳΞόγου τῆς αὐτῆς πραγματείας. Διὸ πάλιν ἐν τῇ ἐπιστολῇ φησι" ε« Πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων ὅτι Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς, ἐκ τοῦ Θεοῦ γεγέννηται, ἕνα καὶ τὸν αὐτὸν εἰδὼς Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν, ᾧ ἐνοίχθησαν αἱ πύλαι τοῦ οὐρανοῦ διὰ τὴν ἔνσαρκον ἀνάληψιν αὐτοῦ, ὅς καὶ ἐν τῇ αὐτῇ σαρκὶ ἐν ἧ καὶ ἔπαθεν ἐλεύσεται, «ἣν δόξαν ἀποκαλύπτων τοῦ Πατρός. » --- Τοῦ αὖ- ᾿ τοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ τετάρτου «Ἰόγου. Καθὼς ᾿Ησαῖας φησὶ, ε Τέχνα Ἰαχὼδ βλαστήσει, κκαὶ ἐξανθήσει ποῦ αὐτοῦ. » Εἰς ὅλην οὖν τὴν οἰκουμένην τοῦ καρποῦ αὐτοῦ διασπαρέντος, εἰκότως ἐγκατελείφθη, καὶ δι ἐκ μέσον ἐγένετο, τὰ ποτὲ μὲν χχαρποφορύσαντα χαἐπ λῶς᾽" ἐξ αὑτῶν γὰρ τὸ κατὰ σάρκα ὁ Χριστὸς ἐχαρποφορήθη, καὶ οἱ ἀπόστολοι" νῦν δὲ μηκέτι εὔθετα ὑπάρχοντα πρὸ: καρποφορίαν. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «1όγου. ᾿Ανακρίνει δὲ καὶ τοὺς Ἰϊδιώνου: πῶς δύνανται σωθῆναι, εἰ μὴ ὁ θεὸς ἦν ὁ τὴν σωτηρίαν αὐτῶν ἐπὶ γῆς ἐργασάμενος. ἣ πῶς ἄνθρωπος χωρήσει εἰς Θεὸν, εἰ μὴ ὁ θεὸς ἐχωρήθη εἰς ἄνθρωπον; --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ.16γου. Οἱ τὸν ἐκ τῆς Παρθένου Εμμανονὴλ κηρύττοντες, τὴν ἕνωσιν τοῦ Λόγου τοῦ Θεοῦ πρὸς τὸ πλάσμα
Tou hagiou Ignatiou episkopou ᾿Agntiocheias kai martyros. Ek tēs pros Smyrnaious epistoiēs. --- Egō gar kai meta tēn anastasin en sarki auton hoida kai pisteuō onta, kai hote pros tous peri Petron ēlthen, ephē autois, « Ladete, Pspsēlaphēsate me, kai idete, hoti ouk eimi daimonion asōmaton. n Kai euthys autou hēpsanto, kai episteusan. --- Tou autou, ek tēs autēs epistolēs. Meta de tēn anastasin, kai kaiper pneumatikōs hēnōmenos tǭ Patri. Eirēnaiou tou palaiou episkopou Lougdounou. Ek tou tritou “ogou tōn eis tas haireseis. Hēnōsen oun, kathōs proephamen, ton anthrōpon tǭ Theǭ. Ei gar mē anthrōpos enikēsen ton antipalon tou anthrōpou, ouk an dikaiōs enichēthē ho echthros" palin te, ei mē ho Theos edōrēsato tēn sōtērian, ouk an bedaiōs eschomen autēn" kai ei mē synēnōthē ho ō anthrōpos tǭ Theǭ, ouk an ēdynēthē metaschein tēs aphtharsias. "Edei gar ton mesitēn Theou te kai anthrōpōn, dia tēs idias pros hekaterous oikeiotētos, eis philian kai homonoian tous amphoterous synagagein, kai Theǭ men parastēsai ton anthrōpon, anthrōpois de gnōrisa: ton theon. --- Tou autou, ek tou tritou.ǭXogou tēs autēs pragmateias. Dio palin en tę̄ epistolę̄ phēsi" e« Pas ho pisteuōn hoti Iēsous Christos, ek tou Theou gegennētai, hena kai ton auton eidōs Iēsoun Christon, hǭ enoichthēsan hai pylai tou ouranou dia tēn ensarkon analēpsin autou, hos kai en tę̄ autę̄ sarki en hē kai epathen eleusetai, «hēn doxan apokalyptōn tou Patros. » --- Tou au- ᾿ tou, ek tou tetartou «Iogou. Kathōs ᾿Ēsaias phēsi, e Techna Iachōd blastēsei, kkai exanthēsei pou autou. » Eis holēn oun tēn oikoumenēn tou karpou autou diasparentos, eikotōs enkateleiphthē, kai di ek meson egeneto, ta pote men chcharpophorysanta chaep lōs᾽" ex hautōn gar to kata sarka ho Christos echarpophorēthē, kai hoi apostoloi" nyn de mēketi eutheta hyparchonta pro: karpophorian. --- Tou hautou ek tou autou «1ogou. ᾿Anakrinei de kai tous Iïdiōnou: pōs dynantai sōthēnai, ei mē ho theos ēn ho tēn sōtērian autōn epi gēs ergasamenos. hē pōs anthrōpos chōrēsei eis Theon, ei mē ho theos echōrēthē eis anthrōpon? --- Tou autou, ek tou autou.16gou. Hoi ton ek tēs Parthenou Emmanonēl kēryttontes, tēn henōsin tou Logou tou Theou pros to plasma
Of holy Ignatius, bishop of Antioch and martyr. From the letter to the Smyrnaeans: “For I know and believe that he is in the flesh even after the resurrection. And when he came to those around Peter, he said to them, ‘Take, touch me, and see that I am not a bodiless demon.’ And at once they touched him and believed.” Of the same, from the same letter: “And after the resurrection, … although spiritually united to the Father.” Of Irenaeus, the ancient bishop of Lyons. From the third book of the [work] Against the Heresies: “He united, then, as we said before, the human being to God. For if a human being had not conquered the adversary of the human being, the enemy would not have been justly conquered; and again, if God had not granted the salvation, we would not have it securely; and if the human being had not been united to God, he could not have shared in incorruption. For the mediator of God and human beings had, through his own kinship with each, to bring both into friendship and concord, and to present the human being to God and make God known to human beings.” Of the same, from the third book of the same treatise: “Therefore again in the letter he says, ‘Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God,’ knowing one and the same Jesus Christ, to whom the gates of heaven were opened because of his ascension in the flesh, who will also come in the same flesh in which he suffered, revealing the glory of the Father.” Of the same, from the fourth book: “As Isaiah says, ‘The children of Jacob will sprout, and … will blossom … its fruit.’ Since, then, its fruit was scattered over the whole world, it was rightly abandoned, and … was taken out of the midst; those things which once bore fruit well (for from them Christ according to the flesh was borne as fruit, and the apostles), but now are no longer fit for bearing fruit.” Of the same, from the same book: “And he will examine the Ebionites too: how can they be saved, unless it was God who worked their salvation on earth? Or how will a human being pass into God, unless God has passed into a human being?” Of the same, from the same book: “Those who proclaimed the Emmanuel from the Virgin showed the union of the Word of God with his own handiwork.”
Luke 24:39 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 John 5:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Isa 27:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 7:14 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The florilegium of the second dialogue begins: Ignatius on Christ in the flesh after the resurrection, and Irenaeus on the union of God and man in the mediator, on Christ coming again in the same flesh, and on God passing into man.
- Florilegium. Quotations, as identified in the standard editions: Ignatius, Smyrnaeans 3.1–2 and 3.3 (some words of 3.3 are lost in the OCR); Irenaeus, Against Heresies 3.18.7; 3.16.8; 4.4.1 (on Jerusalem, abandoned after bearing Christ and the apostles); 4.33.4; 4.33.11. Lines have dropped out of the OCR where '…' is printed. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Luke 24:39; 1 Tim 2:5; 1 John 5:1; Acts 1:11; Isa 27:6; Isa 7:14.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters; Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters): ΓΘΟΙΔ0ο. Τὺ ὙΘΓῸ Δα γα θα 8, δαὶ βοὶο, αυΐϊὰ ἢ0ῃ ἀφ] 1 πὶ ἱπΠοοτρογουτ 5.» Εἰ ἰδ μι θα. Ἐκ ὔτο → ; οἱ Ποτη ηλ ΤΩ115 ἰῃ ἰοχία. ϑἰγιηοηάυβ : ὡς σαρκικῶς καὶ πν. ἦν. τοῦς, → ; πη γαν --- Ε)ιδάσπι, οα ἐοάεπι το 13. (αἱ οχ Ομ τ βίδπη ἰ νἱδα, ἀἰν ηἰ 8115 ο᾽ 5 1216 τ] πο ϑη [68 : ἀυ 08 ἀϊδοῖ- Ποῖ ἀνακρινεῖ, 65 (ΔΙ η 6. ὃ, εἴ → .
Extrabiblical texts: Ign. Smyrn. 3.1-3 (To the Smyrnaeans; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 3.18.7 (Against Heresies; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 3.16.8 (Against Heresies; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 4.4.1 (Against Heresies; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 4.33.4 (Against Heresies; quotation); Irenaeus, Haer. 4.33.11 (Against Heresies; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.27 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.28PG 83
αὐτοῦ ἐδήλουν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκ τῆς αὐτῆς πραγματείας. Οὐ γὰρ δοκήσει ταῦτα, ἀλλ᾽ ἐν ὑποστάσει ἀληθείας ἐγίνετο, Εἰ δὲ μὴ ὧν ἄνθρωπος ἐφαίνετο ἄνθρωπος, οὔτε ὃ ἣν ἐπ᾽ ἀληθείας ἔμεινε, Πνεῦμα Θεοῦ" ἐπεὶ ἀόρατον τὸ πνεῦμα’ οὔτε ἀλήθειά τις ἣν ἐν αὐτῷ" οὐ γὰρ ἣν ἑκεῖνα ἅπερ ἐφαίνετο. Προείπομεν δὲ ὅτι ᾿Αόραὰμ, καὶ οἱ λοιποὶ προφῆται, προφητικῶς αὐτὸν ἔόδλεπον, τὸ μέλλον ἔσεσθαι δι᾽ ὄψεως προφητεύοντες. Εἰ οὖν καὶ νῦν τοιοῦτος ἐφάνη, μὴ ὧν ὅπερ ἐφαίνετο, προφητική τις ὁπτασία γέγονε τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, καὶ δεῖ καὶ ἄλλην ἐκδέχεσθαι παρουσίαν αὐτοῦ, ἐν ἧ τοιοῦτος ἔσται, οἷος νῦν ὁρᾶται προφητικῶς. ᾿ΑἈπεδείξαμεν δὲ, ὅτι τὸ αὐτό ἐστι δοκήσει λέγειν πεφηνέναι, καὶ οὐδὲν ἐκ τῆς Μαρίας εἰληφένα:. Οὐδὲ γὰρ ἦν ἀληθῶς σάρκα καὶ αἷμα ἐσχηκὼς, δι᾽ ὧν ἡμᾶς ἐξηγοράδατο, εἰ μὴ τὴν ἀρκαίαν πλάσιν τοῦ ᾿Αδὰμ εἰς ἑαυτὸν ἀνεχεφαλαιώσατο. Μάταιοι οὖν οἱ ἀπὸ Βαλεντίνου, τοῦτο δογματίζοντες., ἵνα ἐχδά- 6 λωσι τὴν ζωὴν τῆς σαρκός. Τοῦ ἁγίου Ἱππολύτου ἐπισκόπου καὶ μάρτυρος. Ἐκ τοῦ «ἰόγου, τοῦ εἰς τὴν τῶν ταλάντων διαγομήν. Τούτους δὲ, καὶ τοὺς ἑτεροδόξους, φήσειεν ἄν τις γειτνιᾷν, σφαλλομένους παραπλησίως. Καὶ γὰρ κἀκεῖνοι, ἦτοι ψιλὸν ἄνθρωπον ὁμολογοῦσι πεφηϑέναι τὸν Χριστὸν εἰς τὸν βίον, τῆς θεότητος αὐτοῦ τὸ τάλαντον ἀρνούμενοι" ἦτοι τὸν Θεὸν ὁμολογοῦντες, ἀναίνονται πάλιν τὸν ἄνθρωπον, πεφαντασιωχέναι διδάσκοντες τὰς ὄψεις αὐτῶν τῶν θεωμένων, ὡς ἄνθρωπον οὐ φορέσαντα ἄνθρωπον, ἀλλὰ δόκησίν τινα φασματώδη μᾶλλον γεγονέναι, οἷον ὥσπερ Μαρκίων, καὶ Οὐαλεντῖνο:, καὶ οἱ Γνωστικοὶ τῆς σαρχὸ: ἀποδιασπῶντες τὸν Λόγον, τὸ ἕν τάλαντον ᾿ Ὦ ἀπούάλλονται, τὴν ἐνανθρώπησιν. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ ἐκ τῆς πρὸς βασιλίδα τιγὰ ἐπιστολῆς, ᾽λπαρχὴν οὖν τοῦτον λέγει τῶν χεχοιμη μένων, ἅτε πρωτότοχοὸν τῶν νεκρῶν, Ὃς ἀναστὰς, καὶ βουλόμενος ἐπιδεικνύναι, ὅτι τοῦτο ἦν τὸ ἐγηγερμένον, ὅπερ ἦν καὶ ἀποθνῖισχον, δισταζόντων τῶν μαθητῶν, προσκαλεσάμενος τὸν Θωμᾶν, ἔφη, « Δεῦρο, ψιλάφησον καὶ ἴδε, ὅτι πνεῦμα ὀστοῦν καὶ σάρκα οὐκ ἔχει, καθὼς ἐμὲ θεωρεῖτε ἔχοντα. "ν -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ.16γου, τοῦ εἰς τὸν ᾿Ελκαγᾶν καὶ εἰς τὴν "Ἄγγαν. Καὶ διὰ τοῦτο τρεῖς καιροὶ τοῦ ἐνιαυτοῦ προετυποῦντο εἰς αὑτὸν τὸν Σωτῆρα, ἵνα τὰ προφητευθέντα περὶ αὐτοῦ μυστήρια ἐπιτελέσῃ. Ἐν μὲν τῷ πάσχα, ἵνα ἑαυτὸν ἐπιδείξῃ τὸν μέλλοντα ὡς πρόθατον θύεσθαι, καὶ ἀληθινὸν πάσχα δείκνυσθαι, ὡς ὁ ᾿Απόστολος λέγει, ε« Τὸ δὲ πάσχα ἡμῶν ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν τύθη Χριστὸς ὁ Θεός. ν» Ἐν δὲ τῇ Πεντηκοστῇ, ἵνα προσημήνῃ τὴν τῶν οὐρανῶν βασιλείαν, αὐτὸς πρῶτος εἰς οὐρανοὺς ἀναδὰς, καὶ τὸν ἄνθρωπον δῶρον τῷ Θεῷ προσενέγκας. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκκ τοῦ «όγου, τοῦ εἰς τὴν φδὴν τὴν μεγάλην. Ὁ τὸν ἀπολωλότα ἐκ γῆς πρωτόπλαστον ἄνθρωπον, καὶ ἐν δεσμοῖς θανάτου κρατούμενον, ἐξ ἄδου κατωτάτου ἑλκύσας" ὁ ἄνωθεν κατελθὼν, καὶ τὸν κάτω εἰς τὰ ἄνω ἀνενέγκας᾿ ὃ τῶν γεχρῶν εὐαγγελιστὴς, καὶ τῶν ψυχῶν λυτρωτὺς, καὶ ἀνάστασις τῶν τεθαμμένων γινόμενος, οὗτος ἣν ὁ τοῦ νενικημένου ἀνθρώπον γεγενημένος βοηθὸς, κατ᾽ αὐτὸν ὅμοιος αὐτῷ, πρωτότοκος Λόγος τὸν πρωτόπλαστον ᾿Αδὰμ ἐν τῇ Παρθένῳ ἐπισκεπτόμενος " ὁ πνευματικὸς τὸν χοϊκὸν ἐν τῇ μήτρᾳ ἔπιζητῶν" ὁ ἀεὶ ζῶν τὸν διὰ παρακοῆς ἀποθανόντα᾽ ὁ οὐράνιος τὸν ἐπίγειον εἰς τὰ ἄνω χαλῶν᾽ ὁ εὐγενὴς τὸν δοῦλον διὰ τῆς ἰδίας ὑπακοῆς ἐλεύθερον ἀποδεῖξαι θέλων’ ὁ τὸν εἰς γῆν λυόμενον ἄνθρωπον, καὶ βρῶμα ὄφεως γεγενημένον, εἰς ἀδάμαντα τρέψας, καὶ τοῦτον ἐπὶ ξύλου κρεμασθέντα, Κύριον κατὰ τοῦ νενιχηχότος ἀποδείξας, καὶ διὰ τοῦτο διὰ ξύλου νικηφόρος εὑρί-
autou edēloun. --- Tou autou ek tēs autēs pragmateias. Ou gar dokēsei tauta, all᾽ en hypostasei alētheias egineto, Ei de mē hōn anthrōpos ephaineto anthrōpos, oute ho hēn ep᾽ alētheias emeine, Pneuma Theou" epei aoraton to pneuma’ oute alētheia tis hēn en autǭ" ou gar hēn hekeina haper ephaineto. Proeipomen de hoti ᾿Aoraam, kai hoi loipoi prophētai, prophētikōs auton eodlepon, to mellon esesthai di᾽ opseōs prophēteuontes. Ei oun kai nyn toioutos ephanē, mē hōn hoper ephaineto, prophētikē tis hoptasia gegone tois anthrōpois, kai dei kai allēn ekdechesthai parousian autou, en hē toioutos estai, hoios nyn horatai prophētikōs. ᾿AApedeixamen de, hoti to auto esti dokēsei legein pephēnenai, kai ouden ek tēs Marias eilēphena:. Oude gar ēn alēthōs sarka kai haima eschēkōs, di᾽ hōn hēmas exēgoradato, ei mē tēn arkaian plasin tou ᾿Adam eis heauton anechephalaiōsato. Mataioi oun hoi apo Balentinou, touto dogmatizontes., hina echda- 6 lōsi tēn zōēn tēs sarkos. Tou hagiou Hippolytou episkopou kai martyros. Ek tou «iogou, tou eis tēn tōn talantōn diagomēn. Toutous de, kai tous heterodoxous, phēseien an tis geitniąn, sphallomenous paraplēsiōs. Kai gar kakeinoi, ētoi psilon anthrōpon homologousi pephēϑenai ton Christon eis ton bion, tēs theotētos autou to talanton arnoumenoi" ētoi ton Theon homologountes, anainontai palin ton anthrōpon, pephantasiōchenai didaskontes tas opseis autōn tōn theōmenōn, hōs anthrōpon ou phoresanta anthrōpon, alla dokēsin tina phasmatōdē mallon gegonenai, hoion hōsper Markiōn, kai Oualentino:, kai hoi Gnōstikoi tēs sarcho: apodiaspōntes ton Logon, to hen talanton ᾿ Ō apouallontai, tēn enanthrōpēsin. --- Tou hautou ek tēs pros basilida tiga epistolēs, ᾽lparchēn oun touton legei tōn chechoimē menōn, hate prōtotochoon tōn nekrōn, Hos anastas, kai boulomenos epideiknynai, hoti touto ēn to egēgermenon, hoper ēn kai apothniischon, distazontōn tōn mathētōn, proskalesamenos ton Thōman, ephē, « Deuro, psilaphēson kai ide, hoti pneuma ostoun kai sarka ouk echei, kathōs eme theōreite echonta. "n -- Tou autou ek tou.16gou, tou eis ton ᾿Elkagan kai eis tēn "Angan. Kai dia touto treis kairoi tou eniautou proetypounto eis hauton ton Sōtēra, hina ta prophēteuthenta peri autou mystēria epitelesę̄. En men tǭ pascha, hina heauton epideixę̄ ton mellonta hōs prothaton thyesthai, kai alēthinon pascha deiknysthai, hōs ho ᾿Apostolos legei, e« To de pascha hēmōn hyper hēmōn tythē Christos ho Theos. n» En de tę̄ Pentēkostę̄, hina prosēmēnę̄ tēn tōn ouranōn basileian, autos prōtos eis ouranous anadas, kai ton anthrōpon dōron tǭ Theǭ prosenenkas. --- Tou autou ekk tou «ogou, tou eis tēn phdēn tēn megalēn. Ho ton apolōlota ek gēs prōtoplaston anthrōpon, kai en desmois thanatou kratoumenon, ex adou katōtatou helkysas" ho anōthen katelthōn, kai ton katō eis ta anō anenenkas᾿ ho tōn gechrōn euangelistēs, kai tōn psychōn lytrōtys, kai anastasis tōn tethammenōn ginomenos, houtos hēn ho tou nenikēmenou anthrōpon gegenēmenos boēthos, kat᾽ auton homoios autǭ, prōtotokos Logos ton prōtoplaston ᾿Adam en tę̄ Parthenǭ episkeptomenos " ho pneumatikos ton choïkon en tę̄ mētrą epizētōn" ho aei zōn ton dia parakoēs apothanonta᾽ ho ouranios ton epigeion eis ta anō chalōn᾽ ho eugenēs ton doulon dia tēs idias hypakoēs eleutheron apodeixai thelōn’ ho ton eis gēn lyomenon anthrōpon, kai brōma opheōs gegenēmenon, eis adamanta trepsas, kai touton epi xylou kremasthenta, Kyrion kata tou nenichēchotos apodeixas, kai dia touto dia xylou nikēphoros heuri-
of his.” Of the same, from the same treatise: “For these things did not happen in appearance, but in the reality of truth. But if, not being human, he appeared human, he neither remained in truth what he was, the Spirit of God, since the Spirit is invisible, nor was there any truth in him; for he was not those things which he appeared to be. And we said before that Abraham and the other prophets saw him prophetically, prophesying by vision what was to be. If, then, now too he appeared such, not being what he appeared to be, there has been some prophetic vision for human beings, and one must await yet another coming of his, in which he will be such as he is now seen prophetically. And we have shown that it is the same thing to say that he appeared in seeming and that he took nothing from Mary. For he would not truly have had flesh and blood, by which he redeemed us, unless he had recapitulated in himself the ancient fashioning of Adam. Vain, then, are those of Valentinus' school who teach this, so that they may cast out the life of the flesh.” Of holy Hippolytus, bishop and martyr. From the discourse on the distribution of the talents: “One might say that these and the heterodox are neighbors, erring in a similar way. For they too either confess that Christ appeared in life as a mere human being, denying the talent of his Godhead, or, confessing God, they deny the human being in turn, teaching that he deceived the eyes of those who beheld him, as one who had not worn a human being, but rather that there was some phantasmal seeming; as Marcion and Valentinus and the Gnostics, tearing the Word away from the flesh, throw away the one talent, the incarnation.” Of the same, from the letter to a certain queen: “He calls him, then, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep, as the firstborn of the dead; who, having risen and wishing to show that what had been raised was what had also died, when the disciples doubted, called Thomas and said, ‘Come, touch and see; for a spirit does not have bone and flesh as you see that I have.’” Of the same, from the discourse on Elkanah and Hannah: “And for this reason three seasons of the year were prefigured with reference to the Savior himself, so that he might fulfil the mysteries prophesied about him: at the Passover, so that he might show himself as the one who was to be sacrificed like a sheep and shown to be the true Passover, as the Apostle says, ‘Our Passover, Christ our God, was sacrificed for us’; and at Pentecost, so that he might foreshow the kingdom of heaven, himself first ascending into heaven and offering the human being as a gift to God.” Of the same, from the discourse on the Great Song: “He who drew up from lowest Hades the first-formed human being, who had perished from the earth and was held in the bonds of death; he who came down from above and brought the one below up to the things above; he who became the evangelist of the dead, the redeemer of souls, and the resurrection of the buried: this was he who became the helper of the conquered human being, like him in his likeness, the firstborn Word visiting the first-formed Adam in the Virgin; the spiritual seeking the earthy in the womb; the ever-living [seeking] the one who died through disobedience; the heavenly calling the earthly to the things above; the noble wishing to make the slave free through his own obedience; he who turned the human being, who was dissolving into earth and had become the serpent's food, into adamant, and showed him, hung on the tree, to be Lord over the one who had conquered him; and therefore through the tree he is found victorious.
1 Cor 15:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 23:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 5:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:7 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 25:15 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Irenaeus against a merely apparent incarnation (Christ took flesh from Mary to recapitulate Adam), and Hippolytus on heretics who deny either Christ's Godhead or his humanity, on the risen Christ inviting Thomas to touch him, and on the Word who raised the first-formed man.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5.1.1–2; Hippolytus, On the Distribution of the Talents, Letter to a Queen, On Elkanah and Hannah, and On the Great Song (fragments preserved here). In 1 Cor 5:7 Hippolytus' text adds 'God' ('Christ our God'); translated as printed. Scripture: 1 Cor 15:20; Col 1:18; John 20:27; Luke 24:39; Exod 23:14–17 (three feasts); 1 Cor 5:7; Isa 53:7; Matt 25:14–30 (talents).
Extrabiblical texts: Irenaeus, Haer. 5.1.2 (Against Heresies; quotation)
Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.28 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-28
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.29PG 83
σχεται. ---- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «.Ἰόγου. Οἱ γὰρ «φὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ ἔνσαρκον νῦν μὴ ἐπιγινώσκοντες, ἐπιγνώσονται αὐτὸν κριτὴν ἐν δόξῃ παραγινόμενον, «τὸν νῦν ἐν ἀδόξῳ σώματι ὑδριζόμενον. --- Τοῦ αὖτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «“όγου. Καὶ γὰρ οἱ ἀπόστολοι ἐλθόντες εἰς τὸ μνημεῖον τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ τρίτῃ, οὐκ εὕὔρισχον τὸ σῶμα τοῦ Ἰησοῦ" ὃν τρόπον υἱοὶ τοῦ Ἰσραὴλ τὴν ταφὴν τοῦ Μωῦσέως ἀναθάντες ἐν τῷ ὄρει ἐζήτουν, καὶ οὐκ εὕρισκον. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς ἑρμηνείας τοῦ β' ψαλμοῦ. Οὗτος ὁ προελθὼν εἰς τὸν κόσμον, θεὸς καὶ ἄνθρωπος ἐφανερώθη. Καὶ τὸν μὲν ἄνθρωπον αὐτσῦ εὐκόλως ἔστι νοεῖν, ὅτε πεινᾷ, καὶ κοπιᾷ, καὶ κάμνων διψᾷ, καὶ δειλιῶν φεύγει, καὶ προσευχόμενος λυπεῖται, καὶ ἐπὶ προσχεφαλαίου καθεύδει, καὶ ποτήριον πάθους παραἰτεῖται, καὶ ἀγωνιῶν ἱδροξ, καὶ ὑπ᾽ ἀγγέλον δυναμοῦται, καὶ ὑπὸ Ἰούδα παραδίδοται, καὶ ἀτιμάξεται ὑπὸ Καϊάφα, καὶ ἀπὸ ᾿Ηρώδου ἐξουθενεῖται, μαστίξεταί τΞ ὑπὸ Πιλάτου, καὶ ὑπὸ στρατιωτῶν παίζεται, καὶ ὑπὸ Ἰουδαίων ξύλῳ προσπήγνυται, καὶ πρὸς Πατέρα βοῶν παρατίθεται τὸ πνεῦμα, καὶ κλίνων κεφαλὴν ἐχπνεῖ, καὶ πλευρὰν λόγχῃ νύσσεται, καὶ σινδόνι ἑλισσόμενος ἐν μνημείῳ τίθεται, καὶ τριήμερος ὑπὸ Πατρὸς ἀνίσταται. Τὸ δὲ θεϊκὸν αὐτοῦ πάλιν φανερῶς ἔστιν ἰδεῖν, ὅτε ὑπ᾽ ἀγγέλων προσκυνεῖται, καὶ θεωρεῖται ὑπὸ ποιμένων, καὶ προσδοκᾶται ὑπὸ Συμεὼν, καὶ ὑπὸ Ἄννης μαρτυρεῖται, καὶ ζητεῖ. ται ὑπὸ μάγων, καὶ σημαίνεται δι' ἀστέρος, κκαὶ ὕδωρ ἐν γάμοις οἶνον ἀπεργάζεται, καὶ θαλάττῃ ὑπὸ βίας ἀνέμων κινουμένῃ ἐπιτιμᾷ, καὶ ἐπὶ θαλάσσης περιπατεῖ, καὶ τυφλὸν ἐκ γεννητῆς ὁρᾷν ποιεῖ, καὶ νεκρὸν Λάζαρον τετραῆμερον ἀνιστᾷ, καὶ ποιχέλας δυνάμεις τελεΐζ, καὶ ἁμαρτίας ἀφίησι, καὶ ἐξουσίαν δίδωσι μαθηταῖς. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ «λόγου τοῦ εἰς τὸν κγ' ψαιῖμόν. Ἔρχεται ἐπὶ τὰς οὐρανίας πύλας, ἄγγελοι αὐτῷ συνοδεύουσι, καὶ κεκλεϊσμέναι εἰσὶν αἱ πύλαι τῶν οὐρανῶν. Οὐδέπω γὰρ ἀναδέδηχεν εἰς οὐρανούς " πρῶτον -νῦν φαίνεται ταῖς δυνᾶμεσι ταῖς οὐρανίαις σὰρξ ἀναβαίνουσα. Λέγεται οὖν ταῖς δυνάμεσιν ὑπὸ τῶν ἀγγέλων τῶν προτρεχόντων τὸν Σωτῆρα καὶ Κύριον, Ἄρατε πύλας οἱ ἄρχοντες ὑμῶν, καὶ ἐπάρθητε πύλαι αἰώνιοι, καὶ εἰσελεύσεται ὁ βασιλεὺς τῆς δόξης. » Τοῦ ἁγίου Εὐσταθίου ἐπισκόπου ᾿Αγτιοχείας καὶ τεῦθεν τοίνυν ἐπὶ θρόνου προὔγραφεν αὐτὸν ἁγίου καθέζεσθαι, δηλῶν ὅτι σύνθρονος ἀποδέδεικται τῷ θειοτάτῳ Πνεύματι, διὰ τὸν οἰκοῦντα Θεὸν ἐν αὐτῷ διηνεκῶς. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ περὶ ψυχῆς λόγου. Πρὸ μὲν τοῦ πάθους ἑχάπστοτε τὸν σωματικὸν αὑτοῦ προὔλεγε θάνατον, τοῖς ἀμφὶ τοὺς ἀρχιερέας ἐχδοθήσεσθαι φάσκων, καὶ τὸ τοῦ σταυροῦ τρόπαιον ἀπαγγέλλων. Μετὰ δὲ τὸ πάθος, τριταῖος ἐκ τῶν νεκρῶν ἀναστὰς, ἐνδοιαζόντων αὐτὸν ἐγηγέρθαι τῶν μαθητῶν, ἐπιφανεὶς αὐτοῖς αὐτῷ σώματι, σάρκα μὲν ἅπασαν σὺν ὁστέοις ἔχειν ὁμολογεῖ, ταῖς δὲ ὄψεσι τούτων τὰς τετρωμένας ὑποδάλλων πλευρὰς, καὶ τοὺ; τύπους αὐτῶν ὑποδεικνύει τῶν ἥλων.
schetai. ---- Tou autou, ek tou autou «.Iogou. Hoi gar «phon Huion tou Theou ensarkon nyn mē epiginōskontes, epignōsontai auton kritēn en doxę̄ paraginomenon, «ton nyn en adoxǭ sōmati hydrizomenon. --- Tou autou ek tou autou «“ogou. Kai gar hoi apostoloi elthontes eis to mnēmeion tę̄ hēmerą tę̄ tritę̄, ouk heuyrischon to sōma tou Iēsou" hon tropon huioi tou Israēl tēn taphēn tou Mōyseōs anathantes en tǭ orei ezētoun, kai ouk heuriskon. --- Tou autou, ek tēs hermēneias tou b' psalmou. Houtos ho proelthōn eis ton kosmon, theos kai anthrōpos ephanerōthē. Kai ton men anthrōpon autsy eukolōs esti noein, hote peiną, kai kopią, kai kamnōn dipsą, kai deiliōn pheugei, kai proseuchomenos lypeitai, kai epi proschephalaiou katheudei, kai potērion pathous paraiteitai, kai agōniōn hidrox, kai hyp᾽ angelon dynamoutai, kai hypo Iouda paradidotai, kai atimaxetai hypo Kaïapha, kai apo ᾿Ērōdou exoutheneitai, mastixetai tX hypo Pilatou, kai hypo stratiōtōn paizetai, kai hypo Ioudaiōn xylǭ prospēgnytai, kai pros Patera boōn paratithetai to pneuma, kai klinōn kephalēn echpnei, kai pleuran lonchę̄ nyssetai, kai sindoni helissomenos en mnēmeiǭ tithetai, kai triēmeros hypo Patros anistatai. To de theïkon autou palin phanerōs estin idein, hote hyp᾽ angelōn proskyneitai, kai theōreitai hypo poimenōn, kai prosdokatai hypo Symeōn, kai hypo Annēs martyreitai, kai zētei. tai hypo magōn, kai sēmainetai di' asteros, kkai hydōr en gamois oinon apergazetai, kai thalattę̄ hypo bias anemōn kinoumenę̄ epitimą, kai epi thalassēs peripatei, kai typhlon ek gennētēs horąn poiei, kai nekron Lazaron tetraēmeron anistą, kai poichelas dynameis teleïz, kai hamartias aphiēsi, kai exousian didōsi mathētais. --- Tou autou ek tou «logou tou eis ton kg' psaiimon. Erchetai epi tas ouranias pylas, angeloi autǭ synodeuousi, kai kekleïsmenai eisin hai pylai tōn ouranōn. Oudepō gar anadedēchen eis ouranous " prōton -nyn phainetai tais dynamesi tais ouraniais sarx anabainousa. Legetai oun tais dynamesin hypo tōn angelōn tōn protrechontōn ton Sōtēra kai Kyrion, Arate pylas hoi archontes hymōn, kai eparthēte pylai aiōnioi, kai eiseleusetai ho basileus tēs doxēs. » Tou hagiou Eustathiou episkopou ᾿Agtiocheias kai teuthen toinyn epi thronou prougraphen auton hagiou kathezesthai, dēlōn hoti synthronos apodedeiktai tǭ theiotatǭ Pneumati, dia ton oikounta Theon en autǭ diēnekōs. --- Tou autou, ek tou peri psychēs logou. Pro men tou pathous hechapstote ton sōmatikon hautou proulege thanaton, tois amphi tous archiereas echdothēsesthai phaskōn, kai to tou staurou tropaion apangellōn. Meta de to pathos, tritaios ek tōn nekrōn anastas, endoiazontōn auton egēgerthai tōn mathētōn, epiphaneis autois autǭ sōmati, sarka men hapasan syn hosteois echein homologei, tais de opsesi toutōn tas tetrōmenas hypodallōn pleuras, kai tou? typous autōn hypodeiknyei tōn hēlōn.
” Of the same, from the same discourse: “For those who do not now recognize the Son of God incarnate will recognize him as Judge coming in glory, the one who is now insulted in an inglorious body.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “For the apostles, coming to the tomb on the third day, did not find the body of Jesus, just as the sons of Israel went up the mountain and sought the burial place of Moses, and did not find it.” Of the same, from the interpretation of the second psalm: “He who came forth into the world was manifested as God and human. And his humanity is easy to perceive when he hungers, and grows weary, and in his toil thirsts, and in fear flees, and in prayer is grieved, and sleeps on a pillow, and asks that the cup of suffering pass from him, and in agony sweats, and is strengthened by an angel, and is betrayed by Judas, and is dishonored by Caiaphas, and is set at naught by Herod, and is scourged by Pilate, and is mocked by soldiers, and is nailed to the tree by the Jews, and crying out to the Father commits his spirit, and bowing his head breathes his last, and is pierced in the side with a lance, and is wrapped in a linen cloth and laid in a tomb, and on the third day is raised by the Father. And again his divinity can be seen plainly when he is worshiped by angels, and beheld by shepherds, and awaited by Simeon, and testified to by Anna, and sought by magi, and signified by a star, and makes water wine at a wedding, and rebukes the sea driven by the force of the winds, and walks on the sea, and makes one blind from birth see, and raises Lazarus dead four days, and performs various mighty works, and forgives sins, and gives authority to the disciples.” Of the same, from the discourse on the twenty-third psalm: “He comes to the heavenly gates; angels accompany him, and the gates of heaven are shut. For he has not yet ascended into heaven; now for the first time flesh appears to the heavenly powers ascending. It is said, then, to the powers by the angels who run before the Savior and Lord, ‘Lift up your gates, you rulers, and be lifted up, eternal gates, and the King of glory shall come in.’” Of holy Eustathius, bishop of Antioch and …: “From there, then, he foretold that he would sit on a holy throne, showing that he has been shown to share the throne with the most divine Spirit, because of the God who dwells in him continually.” Of the same, from the discourse On the Soul: “Before the passion he foretold his bodily death on each occasion, saying that he would be handed over to those around the high priests, and announcing the trophy of the cross. After the passion, having risen from the dead on the third day, when the disciples doubted that he had been raised, he appeared to them in the body itself and confessed that he has all flesh, with bones; and putting before their eyes his wounded side, he also shows them the prints of the nails.”
Deut 34:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 4:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 4:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 4:38 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 26:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 22:43 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 22:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 23:11 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 23:46 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:30 (allusion, high confidence) · John 19:34 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:36 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 2:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 8:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 14:25 (allusion, high confidence) · John 9:1 (allusion, high confidence) · John 11:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 24:7 (23:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 47:8 (46:9 LXX) (allusion, low confidence) · Matt 20:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Hippolytus lists the human and the divine acts of Christ (On Psalm 2) and describes the first ascent of flesh through the heavenly gates (On Psalm 24); Eustathius on Christ's risen body with its wounds.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Hippolytus, On the Great Song (two further fragments), On Psalm 2, On Psalm 23 in the Greek numbering (Ps 24 in Protestant numbering); Eustathius of Antioch, a fragment whose title is lost in the OCR (the end of the heading is lost, probably 'confessor'), and On the Soul. 'Nailed to the tree by the Jews' is Hippolytus' wording, translated as written. Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters has been removed (logged corrections). Scripture (selection): Deut 34:6; Matt 4:2; John 4:6; Matt 26:39; Luke 22:43–44; Luke 23:11; John 19:1; Luke 23:46; John 19:30, 34; Luke 2:25–38; Matt 2:2; John 2:9; Matt 8:26; John 9:1–7; John 11:39–44; Ps 24:7 (LXX 23:7); Ps 47:8 (LXX 46:9); Matt 20:18–19; John 20:27.
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Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.29 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.30PG 83
- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ (1όγου τοῦ εἰς τὸ, ε Κύριος ἔχτισέ με ἀρχὴν ὁδῶν αὑτοῦ. ν» Οὐ γὰρ εἶπεν ὁ Παῦλος, Συμμόρφους τοῦ Υἱοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἀλλὰ, ε Συμμόρφους τῆς εἰκόνος τοῦ Υἱοῦ αὑτοῦ, ν ἄλλο μέν τι δεικνύων τὸν Υἱὸν εἶναι, ἄλλο δὲ τὴν εἰκόνα αὐτοῦ. Ὃ μὲν γὰρ Υἱὸς, τὰ θεξα τῆς πατρῴας ἀρετῆς γνωρίοματα φέρων, εἰκών ἐστι τοῦ Πατρός" ἐπειδὴ καὶ ὅμοιοι ἐξ ὁμοίων γεννώμενοι, εἰκόνες οἱ τιχτόμενει φαίνονται τῶν γεννητόρων ἀληθεῖς. Ὁ δὲ ἄνθρωπος ὃν ἐφόρεσεν, εἰκών ἔστι τοῦ Υἱοῦ, τοῦ καὶ ἐξ ἀνομοίων χηρογραφεῖσθαι χρωμάτων εἰκόνας" καὶ τὰς μὲν εἶναι θέσει χειροτεύχτους, τὰς δὲ φύσει καὶ ὁμοιότητι γεγενημένας. "Αλλως τε καὶ αὐτὸς ὁ τῆς 0 ἀληθείας τοῦθ’ ὑπαγορεύει θεσμός. Οὐ γὰρ τὸ ἀσώματον τῆς σοφίας πνεῦμα σύμμορφον τοῖς σωματικοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἐστὶν, ἀλλ' ὁ τῷ Πνεύματι σωματο- “οιηθεὶς ἄνθρωπος χαρακτὴρ, ὁ τοῖς ἄλλοις ἅπασιν ἰσάριθμα μέλη φορῶν, καὶ τὴν ὁμοίαν ἑκάστοις περιθεθλημένος ἰδέαν. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ όγου. Ὅτι δὲ τὸ σῶμα λέγει σύμμορφον τοῖς ἀνθρωπίνοις εἶναι, σαφέστερον ἡμᾶς διδάσκει Φιλιππησίοις ἐπιστέλλων. « Ἡμῶν τὸ πολίτευμα, φησὶν, ἐν οὐρανοῖς ὑπάρχει, ἐξ ὧν καὶ Σωτῆρα ἀπεκχδεχόμεθα Κύριον ᾿Ιησοῦν Χριστὸν, ὃς μετασχηματίσει τὸ σῶμα τῆς ταπεινώσεως ἡμῶν, εἰς τὸ γενέσθαι αὐτὸ σύμμορφον τῷ σώματι τῆς δόξης αὑτοῦ. ν» Εἰ δὲ τὸ ταπεινὸν μετασχηματίζων τῶν ἀνθρώπων σῶμα, σύμμορφον τῷ ἰδίῳ σώματι κατασκευάζει, ἕωλος πανταχόθεν ἀποδέδεικται ἡ τῶν ἐναντίων συκοφαντία. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὑτοῦ,16γου. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ὥσπερ ἐκ τῆς Παρθένου τεχθεὶς ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἐκ γυναικὸς λέγεται γεγονέναι, οὕτω δὴ καὶ ὑπὸ νόμον γεγενῆσθαι γράφεται τῷ διὰ τῶν νομικῶν ἔσθ᾽ ὅτε βαδίσαι μηνυμάτων. Ὁπότε μάλιστα παῖδα μὲν αὑτὸν ὄντα ὀκταήμερον προθύμως οἱ γονεῖς περιτέμνειν ἠπείγοντο, καθάπερ ὁ εὐαγγελιστὴ; ἐκδίδωσι Λουκᾶς" « Εἰς δὲ τὸ ἱερὸν ἀνΐγον μετέπειτα παραστῆσαι τῷ Κυρίῳ, τὰς χαθαρσίους ἐπιτελοῦντες ἀναφορὰς, τοῦ δοῦναι θυσίαν κατὰ τὸ εἰρημένον ἐν νόμῳ Κυρίου, ζεῦγος τρυγόνων, ἣ δύο νεοσσοὺς περιστερῶν. « Εἰ τοίνυν τὰ καθάρσια δῶρα κατὰ τὸν νόμον ὑπὲρ αὐτοῦ προσεφέρετο, καὶ περιτομὴν ὀκταήμερον ἐφόρει, ταύτῃ καὶ ὑπὸ νόμον αὐτὸν οὐκ ἀπεικότως γεγενῆσθαι γράφει. Οὔτε δὲ ὁ Λόγος ὑπέχειτο τῷ νόμῳ, καθάπερ οἱ συκοφάνται δοξάξουσιν. αὐτὸς ὧν ὁ νόμο;, οὔτε ὁ Θεὸς ἐδεῖτο θυμάτων καθαρσίων, ἀθρόᾳ ῥιπῇ καθαρίζων ἅπαντα, καὶ ἁγιάζων. ᾿Αλλ᾽ εἰ καὶ ἐκ τῆς Πρθένου τὸ ἀνθρώπινον ὄργανον ἀναλαθὼν ἐφόρεσε, καὶ ὑπὸ νόμον ἐγένετο, κατὰ τὰς τῶν πρωτοτόκων ἀξίας χαθαρισθεὶς, οὐκ αὐτὸς δεόμενος τῆς τούτων χορηγίας ὑπέμενε τὰς θεραπείας, ἀλλ᾽ ἵνα τῆς τοῦ νόμου δουλείας ἐξαγοράσῃ τοὺς πεπραμένους τῇ δίχῃ τῆς ἀρᾶς. τοῦ ἁγίου ᾿Αθαγασίου ἐπισκόπου ᾿Αλεξαγν- ἃ Ἐκ τοῦ πρὸς τὰς αἱρέσεις.1όγου β'. Καὶ ὥσπερ οὐκ ἂν ἢλευθερώθημεν ἀπὸ τῆς ἁμαρτίας καὶ «τἧ: κατάρας, εἰ μὴ φύσει σὰρξ ἀνθρωπίνη ἦν, ἣν ἐνεδύσατο ὁ Λόγος ' οὐδὲν γὰρ κοινὸν ἣν ἡμῖν πρὸ: τὸ ἀλλότριον ᾿ οὕτως οὐκ ἂν ἐθεοποιήθη ὁ ἄνθρωπος, εἰ μὴ φύσει ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὸς, καὶ ἀληθινὸς καὶ ἴδιος ἣν αὐτοῦ ὁ Λόγος, ὁ γενόμενος σάρξ. Διὰ τοῦτο γὰρ τοιαύτη γέγονεν ἡ συνάφεια, ἵνα τῷ κατὰ φύσιν τῆς θεότητος συνάψῃ τὸν κατὰ φύσιν ἄ θρωπον, καὶ βεθαία γένηται ἡ σωτηρία, καὶ ἡ θεοποίησις αὐτοῦ. Οὐκοῦν οἱ ἀρνούμενοι ἐκ τοῦ Πατρὺς εἶναι φύσει, καὶ ἴδιον τῆς οὐσίας αὐτοῦ τὸν Υἱὸν, ἀρνησάσθωσαν καὶ ἀληθινὴν σάρκα καὶ [ ἀνθρωπίνην αὐτὸν εἰληφέναι ἐκ Μαρίας
- Tou autou ek tou (1ogou tou eis to, e Kyrios echtise me archēn hodōn hautou. n» Ou gar eipen ho Paulos, Symmorphous tou Huiou tou Theou, alla, e Symmorphous tēs eikonos tou Huiou hautou, n allo men ti deiknyōn ton Huion einai, allo de tēn eikona autou. Ho men gar Huios, ta thexa tēs patrǭas aretēs gnōriomata pherōn, eikōn esti tou Patros" epeidē kai homoioi ex homoiōn gennōmenoi, eikones hoi tichtomenei phainontai tōn gennētorōn alētheis. Ho de anthrōpos hon ephoresen, eikōn esti tou Huiou, tou kai ex anomoiōn chērographeisthai chrōmatōn eikonas" kai tas men einai thesei cheiroteuchtous, tas de physei kai homoiotēti gegenēmenas. "Allōs te kai autos ho tēs 0 alētheias touth’ hypagoreuei thesmos. Ou gar to asōmaton tēs sophias pneuma symmorphon tois sōmatikois anthrōpois estin, all' ho tǭ Pneumati sōmato- “oiētheis anthrōpos charaktēr, ho tois allois hapasin isarithma melē phorōn, kai tēn homoian hekastois perithethlēmenos idean. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou ogou. Hoti de to sōma legei symmorphon tois anthrōpinois einai, saphesteron hēmas didaskei Philippēsiois epistellōn. « Hēmōn to politeuma, phēsin, en ouranois hyparchei, ex hōn kai Sōtēra apekchdechometha Kyrion ᾿Iēsoun Christon, hos metaschēmatisei to sōma tēs tapeinōseōs hēmōn, eis to genesthai auto symmorphon tǭ sōmati tēs doxēs hautou. n» Ei de to tapeinon metaschēmatizōn tōn anthrōpōn sōma, symmorphon tǭ idiǭ sōmati kataskeuazei, heōlos pantachothen apodedeiktai hē tōn enantiōn sykophantia. --- Tou autou, ek tou hautou,16gou. ᾿All᾽ hōsper ek tēs Parthenou techtheis ho anthrōpos ek gynaikos legetai gegonenai, houtō dē kai hypo nomon gegenēsthai graphetai tǭ dia tōn nomikōn esth᾽ hote badisai mēnymatōn. Hopote malista paida men hauton onta oktaēmeron prothymōs hoi goneis peritemnein ēpeigonto, kathaper ho euangelistē? ekdidōsi Loukas" « Eis de to hieron anïgon metepeita parastēsai tǭ Kyriǭ, tas chatharsious epitelountes anaphoras, tou dounai thysian kata to eirēmenon en nomǭ Kyriou, zeugos trygonōn, hē dyo neossous peristerōn. « Ei toinyn ta katharsia dōra kata ton nomon hyper autou prosephereto, kai peritomēn oktaēmeron ephorei, tautę̄ kai hypo nomon auton ouk apeikotōs gegenēsthai graphei. Oute de ho Logos hypecheito tǭ nomǭ, kathaper hoi sykophantai doxaxousin. autos hōn ho nomo?, oute ho Theos edeito thymatōn katharsiōn, athroą rhipę̄ katharizōn hapanta, kai hagiazōn. ᾿All᾽ ei kai ek tēs Prthenou to anthrōpinon organon analathōn ephorese, kai hypo nomon egeneto, kata tas tōn prōtotokōn axias chatharistheis, ouk autos deomenos tēs toutōn chorēgias hypemene tas therapeias, all᾽ hina tēs tou nomou douleias exagorasę̄ tous pepramenous tę̄ dichę̄ tēs aras. tou hagiou ᾿Athagasiou episkopou ᾿Alexagn- ha Ek tou pros tas haireseis.1ogou b'. Kai hōsper ouk an ēleutherōthēmen apo tēs hamartias kai «tē: kataras, ei mē physei sarx anthrōpinē ēn, hēn enedysato ho Logos ' ouden gar koinon hēn hēmin pro: to allotrion ᾿ houtōs ouk an etheopoiēthē ho anthrōpos, ei mē physei ek tou Patros, kai alēthinos kai idios hēn autou ho Logos, ho genomenos sarx. Dia touto gar toiautē gegonen hē synapheia, hina tǭ kata physin tēs theotētos synapsę̄ ton kata physin a thrōpon, kai bethaia genētai hē sōtēria, kai hē theopoiēsis autou. Oukoun hoi arnoumenoi ek tou Patrys einai physei, kai idion tēs ousias autou ton Huion, arnēsasthōsan kai alēthinēn sarka kai [ anthrōpinēn auton eilēphenai ek Marias
Of the same, from the discourse on “The Lord created me the beginning of his ways”: “For Paul did not say, ‘conformed to the Son of God,’ but ‘conformed to the image of his Son,’ showing that the Son is one thing and his image another. For the Son, bearing the divine marks of the Father's excellence, is the image of the Father; since, when like are born from like, the offspring appear as true images of those who begot them. But the human being whom he wore is the image of the Son; for images can be painted even from unlike colors, and some are made by hand by convention, while others come about by nature and likeness. Besides, the very law of truth prescribes this. For it is not the bodiless spirit of Wisdom that is conformed to bodily human beings, but the human form embodied by the Spirit, which bears limbs equal in number to those of all others and is clothed in a form like that of each.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “That he says the body is conformed to human bodies, he teaches us more clearly when writing to the Philippians: ‘Our citizenship,’ he says, ‘is in heaven, from which we also await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform the body of our humiliation so that it becomes conformed to the body of his glory.’ And if, transforming the lowly body of human beings, he makes it conformed to his own body, the slander of the opponents has been shown stale on every side.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “But just as the human being born of the Virgin is said to have come from a woman, so he is also written to have come under the law, by walking at times according to the ordinances of the law; especially when, as a child eight days old, his parents eagerly hastened to circumcise him, as the evangelist Luke relates: ‘And afterward they brought him up to the temple to present him to the Lord,’ performing the offerings of purification, ‘to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, a pair of turtledoves or two young pigeons.’ If, then, the gifts of purification were offered for him according to the law, and he bore circumcision on the eighth day, in this respect he not unreasonably writes that he came under the law. But neither was the Word subject to the law, as the slanderers suppose, since he is himself the law; nor did God need sacrifices of purification, he who cleanses and sanctifies all things at a single stroke. But if, having taken the human instrument from the Virgin, he wore it, and came under the law, being purified according to the dues of the firstborn, he underwent these observances not because he himself needed what they supplied, but to redeem from the slavery of the law those who had been sold to the penalty of the curse.” Of holy Athanasius, bishop of Alexandria. From the second discourse against the heresies: “And just as we would not have been freed from sin and the curse unless the flesh that the Word put on had been human by nature (for we would have had nothing in common with what was foreign to us), so the human being would not have been deified unless the Word who became flesh was by nature from the Father, and true and his own. For this is why such a conjunction took place: that he might join what is human by nature to him who is by nature of the Godhead, and that its salvation and deification might be secure. Therefore let those who deny that the Son is by nature from the Father and proper to his substance deny also that he took true and human flesh from Mary
Prov 8:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 2:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Lev 12:8 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gal 4:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 3:13 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Eustathius on the human body of Christ as the image of the Son and his coming 'under the law' at his circumcision and presentation; Athanasius on why the Word had to be truly God and his flesh truly human for our deification.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Eustathius of Antioch, On 'The Lord created me' (fragments); Athanasius, Orations against the Arians 2.70. 'Deified' renders ἐθεοποιήθη. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections); one garbled phrase ('images can be painted even from unlike colors') is translated by sense. Scripture: Prov 8:22; Rom 8:29; Phil 3:20–21; Gal 4:4; Luke 2:21–24; Lev 12:8; Gal 4:5; Gal 3:13.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters; Migne's Latin column read as Greek letters inside a word; Migne's Latin column read into a word; Migne's notes read into a word; OCR misreading): δ) ἐφόρεσεν → ὃν ἐφόρεσεν; ἀν- (δ ὁμ. το ͵Ἶλ Οἷ!. ἐν ὡμολόγει. θρωπίνοις → ἀνθρωπίνοις; Φιλιπ- α αυὶ πησίοις → Φιλιππησίοις; δ 5118 οἵ 50} [666 [4011 ἰῃβίου [085 οδί ἰῃ ἡ → ἠ; Ἰαζοίη « Εἰς → « Εἰς.
Extrabiblical texts: Athanasius, C. Ar. 70 (Oration II Against the Arians; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.30 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.31PG 83
τῆς παρθένου. Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς πρὸς Ἐπίκτητον ἐπιστοιιῆς. Εἰ διὰ τὸ εἶναι καὶ λέγεσθαι ἐν εαἷς Γραφαῖς ἐκ Μαρίας εἶναι καὶ ἀνθρώπινον τὸ σῶμα τοῦ Σωτῆρος, νομίζουσιν ἀντὶ Τριάδος τετρόδα λέγεσθαι, ὡς προσθήκης γινομένης διὰ τὸ σῶμα, πολὺ πλανῶνται, τὸ ποίημα συνεξισοῦντες τῷ ποιητῇ καὶ ὑπονοοῦντες δύνασθαι τὴν θεότητα προσθήκην λαμθάνειν. Καὶ ἠγνόησαν ὅτι οὐ διὰ προσθήκην θεότυτος γέγονε σὰρξ ὁ Λόγος, ἀλλ᾽ ἵνα ἣ σὰρξ ἀναστῇ " οὐδὲ ἵνα βελτιωθῇ ὁ Λόγος προῆλθεν ἐκ Μαρίας, ἀλλ᾽ ἵνα τὸ ἀνθρώπινον γένος λυτρώσγται. Πῶς οὖν οἴονται, τὸ διὰ τοῦ Λόγου λυτρωθὲν σῶμα, καὶ ζωοποιηθὲν, προσθήκην εἰς θεότητα τῷ ζωοποιήσαντι Λόγῳ ποιεῖν; --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τῆς αὐτῆς ἐπιστοζῆς. ᾿Ακουέτωσαν ὅτι εἰ κτίσμα ἦν ὁ Λόγος, οὐ προσελάμθανεν ἂν τὸ κτιστὸν σῶμα, ἵνα τοῦτο ζωοποιήσῃ. Ποία γὰρ τοῖς κτίσμασι παρὰ κτίσματός ἔστι βοήθεια, δεομένου καὶ αὐτοῦ σωτηρίας; ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐπειδὴ κτίστης ὧν ὁ Λόγος αὐτὸς δημιουργὸς γέγονε τῶν κτισμάτων, διὰ τοῦτο καὶ ἐπὶ συντελείᾳ τῶν αἰώνων τὸ κτιστὸν αὐτὸς συνεστή σατο, ἵνα πάλιν αὐτὸ ὡς κτίστης ἀναχαινίσῃ, καὶ ἀναχτίσαι δυνηθῇ. --- Ἐκ τοῦ περὶ πίστεως τοῦ μείζονος. Ταῦτα δὲ παρεθέμεθα περὶ τοῦ, « Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου, » ὅτι εἷς τὸ Κυριακὸν σῶμα λέλεκται, Εἰ γὰρ, « Τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν ἐγὼ πληρῶ, λέγει Κύριος, » ὥς φησιν Ἱερεμίας, πάντα δὲ χωρεῖ ὁ Θεὸς, ὑπ᾽ οὐδενὸς δὲ χωρεῖται, εἰς ποῖον, χαθέζετα: θρόνον; Τὸ σῶμα τοίνυν ἐστὶν ᾧ λέγει, « Κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου, » οὗ καὶ γέχονὲν ἐχθρὸς ὁ διάδολος σὺν ταῖς πονηραῖς δυνάμεσι, καὶ Ἰουδαῖοι, καὶ Ἕλληνες. Δι’ οὗ σώματος ἀρχιερεὺς καὶ ἀπόστολος γέγονε καὶ ἐχρημάτισε, δι᾽ οὗ παρέδωκεν ἡμῖν μυστηρίου, λέγων, « Τοῦτό ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν, καὶ, Τὸ αἷμα τῆς καινῆς Διαθήκης (οὐ τῆς παλαιᾶς), τὸ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν ἐκχυνόμενον. " Θεότης δὲ οὔτε σῶμα οὔτε αἴμα ἔχει, ἀλλ᾽ ὃν ἐτόρεσεν ἐκ τῆς Μαρίας ἄνθρωπον, αἴτιος τούτων γέγονε, περὶ οὗ εἶπον οἱ ἀπόστολοι" ε Ἰησοῦν τὸν ἀπὸ Ναζαρὲτ ἄνδρα ἀπὸ Θεοῦ ἀποδεδειγμένον εἰς ὑμᾶς. » -- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ πρὸς ᾿Αρειαγοὺς τόμου (ἢ). Καὶ ὅτε λέγει, ε ἀιδ, καὶ ὁ Θεὸς αὐτὸν ὑπερύψωσε, καὶ ἐχαρίσατο αὐτῷ ὄνομα, τὸ ὑπὲρ πᾶν ὄνομα, » περὶ (ὃ) τοῦ ναοῦ τοῦ σύματος αὐτοῦ λέγει, οὐ περὶ τῆς θεότητος. Οὐ γὰρ ὁ Ὕψφιστος ὑψοῦται, ἀλλ᾽ ἡ σὰρξ τοῦ Ὑψίστου ὑψοῦται, καὶ τῇ σαρκὶ τοῦ Ὑψίστου ἔκα ρίσατο ὄνομα τὸ ὑπὲρ πᾶν ὄνομα. Καὶ οὐκ ὁ Λόγος τοῦ Θεοῦ κατὰ χάριν ἔλαθε τὸ καλεῖσθαι Θεὸς, ἀλλ᾽ ἡ σὰρξ αὑτοῦ σὺν αὐτῷ
tēs parthenou. Tou hautou, ek tēs pros Epiktēton epistoiiēs. Ei dia to einai kai legesthai en eais Graphais ek Marias einai kai anthrōpinon to sōma tou Sōtēros, nomizousin anti Triados tetroda legesthai, hōs prosthēkēs ginomenēs dia to sōma, poly planōntai, to poiēma synexisountes tǭ poiētę̄ kai hyponoountes dynasthai tēn theotēta prosthēkēn lamthanein. Kai ēgnoēsan hoti ou dia prosthēkēn theotytos gegone sarx ho Logos, all᾽ hina hē sarx anastę̄ " oude hina beltiōthę̄ ho Logos proēlthen ek Marias, all᾽ hina to anthrōpinon genos lytrōsgtai. Pōs oun oiontai, to dia tou Logou lytrōthen sōma, kai zōopoiēthen, prosthēkēn eis theotēta tǭ zōopoiēsanti Logǭ poiein? --- Tou autou, ek tēs autēs epistozēs. ᾿Akouetōsan hoti ei ktisma ēn ho Logos, ou proselamthanen an to ktiston sōma, hina touto zōopoiēsę̄. Poia gar tois ktismasi para ktismatos esti boētheia, deomenou kai autou sōtērias? ᾿All᾽ epeidē ktistēs hōn ho Logos autos dēmiourgos gegone tōn ktismatōn, dia touto kai epi synteleią tōn aiōnōn to ktiston autos synestē sato, hina palin auto hōs ktistēs anachainisę̄, kai anachtisai dynēthę̄. --- Ek tou peri pisteōs tou meizonos. Tauta de parethemetha peri tou, « Kathou ek dexiōn mou, » hoti heis to Kyriakon sōma lelektai, Ei gar, « Ton ouranon kai tēn gēn egō plērō, legei Kyrios, » hōs phēsin Hieremias, panta de chōrei ho Theos, hyp᾽ oudenos de chōreitai, eis poion, chathezeta: thronon? To sōma toinyn estin hǭ legei, « Kathou ek dexiōn mou, » hou kai gechonen echthros ho diadolos syn tais ponērais dynamesi, kai Ioudaioi, kai Hellēnes. Di’ hou sōmatos archiereus kai apostolos gegone kai echrēmatise, di᾽ hou paredōken hēmin mystēriou, legōn, « Touto hyper hymōn, kai, To haima tēs kainēs Diathēkēs (ou tēs palaias), to hyper hymōn ekchynomenon. " Theotēs de oute sōma oute aima echei, all᾽ hon etoresen ek tēs Marias anthrōpon, aitios toutōn gegone, peri hou eipon hoi apostoloi" e Iēsoun ton apo Nazaret andra apo Theou apodedeigmenon eis hymas. » -- Tou autou, ek tou pros ᾿Areiagous tomou (ē). Kai hote legei, e aid, kai ho Theos auton hyperypsōse, kai echarisato autǭ onoma, to hyper pan onoma, » peri (ho) tou naou tou symatos autou legei, ou peri tēs theotētos. Ou gar ho Hypsphistos hypsoutai, all᾽ hē sarx tou Hypsistou hypsoutai, kai tę̄ sarki tou Hypsistou eka risato onoma to hyper pan onoma. Kai ouk ho Logos tou Theou kata charin elathe to kaleisthai Theos, all᾽ hē sarx hautou syn autǭ
the virgin.” Of the same, from the letter to Epictetus: “If, because the Savior's body is, and is said in the Scriptures to be, from Mary and human, they think that a Tetrad is spoken of instead of a Trinity, as though an addition were made because of the body, they err greatly, putting the thing made on a level with the Maker, and supposing that the Godhead can receive an addition. And they did not know that the Word became flesh not for an addition to the Godhead, but so that the flesh might rise; nor did the Word come forth from Mary in order to be improved, but in order to redeem the human race. How, then, do they think that the body redeemed and given life through the Word makes an addition to the Godhead of the Word who gave it life?” Of the same, from the same letter: “Let them hear that if the Word were a creature, he would not have assumed the created body in order to give it life. For what help is there for creatures from a creature, which itself needs salvation? But since the Word, being Creator, himself became the maker of creatures, for this reason at the consummation of the ages he himself put on what is created, so that again, as Creator, he might renew it and be able to create it anew.” From the greater [discourse] On the Faith: “These things we have set out about ‘Sit at my right hand,’ that it is said to the Lord's body. For if ‘I fill heaven and earth, says the Lord,’ as Jeremiah says, and God contains all things and is contained by nothing, on what throne does he sit? It is, then, the body to which he says, ‘Sit at my right hand,’ the body of which the devil with the evil powers, and Jews and Greeks, became enemies. Through this body he became and was called high priest and apostle; through it he handed on the mystery to us, saying, ‘This is my body, which is for you,’ and, ‘The blood of the new covenant (not of the old), which is poured out for you.’ But the Godhead has neither body nor blood; [through] the human being whom he wore from Mary he became the cause of these; of him the apostles said, ‘Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God.’” Of the same, from the tome to the Arians: “And when he says, ‘[Therefore] God also highly exalted him and granted him the name that is above every name,’ he speaks of the temple of his body, not of the Godhead. For the Most High is not exalted, but the flesh of the Most High is exalted, and to the flesh of the Most High he granted the name above every name. And the Word of God did not receive by grace being called God, but his flesh with him …
Jer 23:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 110:1 (109:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 3:1 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Athanasius (Letter to Epictetus) denies that Christ's human body adds a fourth to the Trinity; texts under his name apply 'Sit at my right hand', the eucharistic words, and the exaltation of Phil 2:9 to Christ's body, not to his Godhead.
- Florilegium. Quotations: Athanasius, Letter to Epictetus 9 and 8 (sections as numbered in modern editions; identification approximate); the 'greater discourse On the Faith' (Sermo maior de fide, ascribed to Athanasius; authorship disputed); 'the tome to the Arians' (not identified further here). The words 'This is my body, which is' are displaced in the OCR to an earlier line; the quotation is translated whole. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Jer 23:24; Ps 110:1 (LXX 109:1); Heb 3:1; 1 Cor 11:24–25; Luke 22:20; Acts 2:22; Phil 2:9.
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Extrabiblical texts: Athanasius, Ep. Epict. 8-9 (To Epictetus; quotation)
Topics: Christology, Trinity, Eucharist
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.31 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-31
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.32PG 83
Τοῦ αὐτοῦ ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ λόγου. Τὸ σῶμα -οἶνυν ἐστὶν, ᾧ λέγει, Κάθου ἐκ «δεξιῶν μου. λέγει, ὅ ἐστι τὸ σῶμα αὐτοῦ.᾿ κατ᾽ ἀρχὴν ἔλαθε τὸ καλεῖσθαι, Καὶ ὅτε λέγει, « Οὔπω ἦν Πνεῦμα ἅγιον, ὅτι Ἰησοῦς οὐδέπω ἐδοξάσθη, » τὴν σάρκα αὐτοῦ λέγει μηδέπὼ δοξασθεῖσαν. Οὐ γὰρ ὁ Κύριος τῆς δόξης δηξάζξεται, ἀλλ᾽ ἡ σὰρξ τοῦ Κυρίου τῆς δόξης αὐτὴ λαμόάνει δόξαν, συναναθδαίνουσα αὐτῷ εἰς οὐρανόν.. Ὅθεν φησὶ, Καὶ πνεῦμα υἱοθεσίας οὔπω ἧν ἐν ἀνθρώποις, διότι ἡ ληφθεῖσα ἀπαρχὴ ἐξ ἀνθρώπων οὔπω ἦν ἀνελθοῦσα εἰς οὐρανόν. “Ὅσα οὖν λέγει ἡ Γραφὴ, ὅτι ξλαδεν ὁ Υἱὸς καὶ ἐδοξάσθη, διὰ τὴν ἀνθρωπότητα αὐτοῦ λέγει, οὐ τὴν θεότὴτα. --- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ λόγου. “Ὥστε ἀληθινὸς Θεός ἔστιν οὗτος, καὶ πρὸ τοῦ γενέσθαι αὐτὸν ἄνθρωπον, καὶ μετὰ τὸ γενέσθαι μεσίτην Θεοῦ καὶ ἀνθρώπων Ἰησοῦν ([ Χριστὸν, τὸν ἡνωμένον Πατρὶ κατὰ πνεῦμα, ἡμῖν δε κατὰ σάρκα» τὸν μεσιτεύσαντα Θεῷ καὶ ἀνθρώποις, τὸν μὴ μόνον ἄνθρωπον, ἀλλὰ καὶ Θεόν (. Τοῦ ἁγίου ᾿Αμδροσίου ἐπισκόπου Μεδιολάνου. Ἔν ἐκθέσει πίστεως. 'Ὁμολογοῦμεν. τὸν Κύριον ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν, τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ, πρὸ πάντων μὲν τῶν αἰώνων ἀνάρχως ἐκ Πατρὸς γεννηθέντα κατὰ τὴν θεότητα, ἐπ᾽ ἐσχάτῶν δὲ τῶν ἡμερῶν ἐκ τῆς ἁγίας παρθένου Μαρίας τὸν αὐτὸν σαρκωθέντα, καὶ τέλειον τὸν ἄνθρωπον ἐκ Ψυχῆς λογικῆς καὶ σώματος ἀνειληφότα, ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρὶ κατὰ τὴν θεότητα, καὶ ὁμοούσιον ἡμῖν κατὰ τὴν ἀνθρωπότητα. Δύο γὰρ φύσεων τελείων ἕνωσις γεγένηται ἀφράστως. Διὸ ἕνα Χριστὸν, ἕνα Υἱὸν τὸν Κύριον ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν, τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ χαθομολογοῦμεν, εἰδότες ὅτιπερ συναΐδιος ὑπάρχων τῷ ἑαυτοῦ Πατρὶ κατὰ τὴν θεότητα, καθ᾽ ἣν καὶ πάντων ὑπάρχει δημιουργὸς, ἠξίωσε μετὰ τὴν συγκατάθεσιν τῆς ἁγίας Παρθένου, ἡνίχα εἴρηκε πρὸς τὸν ἄγγελον, ε« ᾿ἸΙδοὺ ἡ δούλη Κυρίου, γένοιτό μοι κατὰ ῥήμά σου, ν ἀποῤῥήτως ἑαυτῷ ἐξ αὐτῆς οἰκοδομῆσαι ναὸν, καὶ τοῦτον ἐνῶσαι ἑαυτῷ ἐξ αὐτῆς τῆς συλλήψεως, οὐ συναΐδιον ἐκ τῆς ἑαυτοῦ οὐσίας οὐρανόθεν ἐπιφερόμενον σῶμα, ἀλλ᾽ ἐκ τοῦ φυράματὸς τῆς ἡμετέρας οὐσίας, τουτέστιν ἐκ τῆς Παρθένου, τοῦτο εἰληφὼς καὶ ἑαυτῷ ἑνώσας. Οὐκ ὁ Θεὸς Λόγος εἰς σάρκα τραπεὶς, οὔτε μὴν φάντασμα φανείς " ἀλλ᾽ ἀτρέπτως καὶ ἀναλλοιώτως τὴν ἑαυτοῦ διατηρῶν οὐσίαν, τὴν ἀπαρχὴν τῆς φύσεως τῆς ἡμετέρας εἰληφὼς, ἑαυτῷ ἥνωσεν. Οὐκ ἀρχὴν ὁ Θεὸς Λόγος ἐκ τῆς Παρθένου εἰληφὼς, ἀλλὰ συναΐδιος τῷ ἑαυτοῦ Πατρὶ ὑπάρχων, τὴν τῆς φύσεως τῆς ἡμετέρας ἢ) ἀπαρχὴν ἑαυτῷ διὰ πολλὴν ἀγαθότητα ἑνῶσαι κατἠξίωσεν, οὐ χραθεὶς, ἀλλ᾽ ἐν ἑκατέραις ταῖς οὐσίαις εἷς καὶ ὁ αὐτὸς φανεὶς, κατὰ τὸ γεγραμμένον" « Λύσατε τὸν ναὸν τοῦτον, καὶ ἐν τρισὶν ἡμέραις ἐγερῶ αὐτόν. » Λύεται γὰρ ὁ Χριστὸς Θεὸς κατὰ τὴν ἐμὴν καὶ λελυμένον ἐγείρει τὸν νχὸν ὃ αὐτὸς κατὰ τὴν θείαν οὐσίαν, καθ᾽ ἣν καὶ πάντων ὑπάρχει δημιουργός. Οὐδέποτε μετὰ τὴν ἕνωσιν, ἣν ἐξ αὑτῆς τῆς συλλήψεως ἑαυτῷ ἑνῶσαι κατηξίωσεν, ἣ ἀποστὰς τοῦ οἰκείου ναοῦ, ἢ ἀποστῆναι διὰ τὴν ἄφατον φιλανθρωπίαν δυνάμενος. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἔστιν ὁ αὑτὸς παθητὸς καὶ ἀπαθὴς " παθητὺὸς κατὰ τὴν ἀνθρωπότητα, ἀπαθὴς κατὰ τὴν θεότητα. “Ἶδετε γὰρ, ἴδετέ με, ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι, καὶ οὐκ ἢλλοίωμαι. Ἐγείρας τοιγαροῦν τὸν ἑαυτοῦ ναὺν ὁ θεὸς Λόγος, καὶ ἐν αὐτῷ τῆς φύσεω; ἡμῶν ἀνάστασιν καὶ ἀνανέωσιν ἐργασάμενος, καὶ ταύτην τοῖς ἑαυτοῦ μαθηταῖς δείξας, ἔλεγε, ε« Ῥπλαφήσατέ με, καὶ ἴδετε, ὅτι πνεῦμα σάρκα καὶ ὀστέα οὐκ ἔχει, καθὼς ἐμὲ θεωρεῖτε, οὐκ ὄντα, ἀλλ᾽ ἔχοντα " » ἵνα καὶ τὸν ἔχοντα, καὶ τὸ ἐχόμενον κατανοήσας, οὐ κρᾶσιν, οὐ τροπὴν, οὐκ ἀλλοίωσιν, ἀλλ᾽ ἕνωσιν γεγενημένην ἑπίδοις. Διὰ τοῦτο καὶ τοὺς τύπους τῶν ἥλων, καὶ τῆς λόγχης τὴν νύξιν ἐπέδειξε, καὶ ἔμπροσθεν μαθητῶν ἔφαγεν, ἵνα διὰ πάντων τὴν ἀνάστασιν τῆς ἡμετέρας φύσεως ἐν αὐτῷ ἀνανεωθεῖσαν πιστώσηται αὐτούς. Καὶ ὅτι κατὰ τὴν μακαρίαν τῆς θεότητος οὐσίαν ἄτρεπτος, ἀναλλοίωτος, ἀπαθὴς, ἀθάνατος, ἀνενδεὴς διατελῶν, πάντα τὰ πάθη εἴασε κατὰ συγχώρησιν τῷ οἰκείῳ ἐπενεχθῆναι ναῷ, καὶ τοῦτον τῇ οἰκείᾳ ἀνέστησε δυνάμει, διά τε τοῦ οἰκείου ναοῦ τελείαν τὴν ἀνα» νέωσιν τῆς ἡμετέρας ἐξειργόσατο φύσεως. Τοὺς δὲ λέγοντας ψιλὸν ἄνθρωπον τὸν Χριστὸν, ἣ παθητὸν τὸν Θεὸν Λόγον, ἣ εἰς σάρκα τραπέντα, ἣ συνουσιωμένον ἐσχηκέναι τὸ σῶμα, ἣ οὐρανόθεν τοῦτο χεχημιχέναι, ἣ φάντασμα εἶναι, ἣ θνητὸν λέγοντας τὸν Θεὸν Λόγον δεδεῆσθαι τῆς παρὰ τοῦ Πατρὸς ἀναστάσεως, ἣ ἄψυχον τὸ σῶμα ἀνειληφέναι, ἣ ἄνουν ἄνθρωπον, ἣ τὰς δύο φύσεις τοῦ Χριστοῦ κατὰ ἀνάκρᾶσιν συγχυθείσας μίαν γεγενῆσθαι φύσιν, καὶ μὴ ὁμολογοῦντας εἰς Κύριον ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦν Χριστὸν δύο φύσεις εἶναι ἀσυγχύτονς, ἕν δὲ πρόσωπον, καθὸ εἷς Χριστὸς, εἷς Υἱὸς, τούτους ἀναθεματίζει ἡ καθολικὴ,
Tou autou ek tou autou logou. To sōma -oinyn estin, hǭ legei, Kathou ek «dexiōn mou. legei, ho esti to sōma autou.᾿ kat᾽ archēn elathe to kaleisthai, Kai hote legei, « Oupō ēn Pneuma hagion, hoti Iēsous oudepō edoxasthē, » tēn sarka autou legei mēdepō doxastheisan. Ou gar ho Kyrios tēs doxēs dēxazxetai, all᾽ hē sarx tou Kyriou tēs doxēs autē lamoanei doxan, synanathdainousa autǭ eis ouranon.. Hothen phēsi, Kai pneuma huiothesias oupō hēn en anthrōpois, dioti hē lēphtheisa aparchē ex anthrōpōn oupō ēn anelthousa eis ouranon. “Hosa oun legei hē Graphē, hoti xladen ho Huios kai edoxasthē, dia tēn anthrōpotēta autou legei, ou tēn theotēta. --- Tou autou, ek tou autou logou. “Hōste alēthinos Theos estin houtos, kai pro tou genesthai auton anthrōpon, kai meta to genesthai mesitēn Theou kai anthrōpōn Iēsoun ([ Christon, ton hēnōmenon Patri kata pneuma, hēmin de kata sarka» ton mesiteusanta Theǭ kai anthrōpois, ton mē monon anthrōpon, alla kai Theon (. Tou hagiou ᾿Amdrosiou episkopou Mediolanou. En ekthesei pisteōs. 'Homologoumen. ton Kyrion hēmōn Iēsoun Christon, ton Huion tou Theou ton monogenē, pro pantōn men tōn aiōnōn anarchōs ek Patros gennēthenta kata tēn theotēta, ep᾽ eschatōn de tōn hēmerōn ek tēs hagias parthenou Marias ton auton sarkōthenta, kai teleion ton anthrōpon ek Psychēs logikēs kai sōmatos aneilēphota, homoousion tǭ Patri kata tēn theotēta, kai homoousion hēmin kata tēn anthrōpotēta. Dyo gar physeōn teleiōn henōsis gegenētai aphrastōs. Dio hena Christon, hena Huion ton Kyrion hēmōn Iēsoun Christon, ton Huion tou Theou chathomologoumen, eidotes hotiper synaïdios hyparchōn tǭ heautou Patri kata tēn theotēta, kath᾽ hēn kai pantōn hyparchei dēmiourgos, ēxiōse meta tēn synkatathesin tēs hagias Parthenou, hēnicha eirēke pros ton angelon, e« ᾿IIdou hē doulē Kyriou, genoito moi kata rhēma sou, n aporrhētōs heautǭ ex autēs oikodomēsai naon, kai touton enōsai heautǭ ex autēs tēs syllēpseōs, ou synaïdion ek tēs heautou ousias ouranothen epipheromenon sōma, all᾽ ek tou phyramatos tēs hēmeteras ousias, toutestin ek tēs Parthenou, touto eilēphōs kai heautǭ henōsas. Ouk ho Theos Logos eis sarka trapeis, oute mēn phantasma phaneis " all᾽ atreptōs kai analloiōtōs tēn heautou diatērōn ousian, tēn aparchēn tēs physeōs tēs hēmeteras eilēphōs, heautǭ hēnōsen. Ouk archēn ho Theos Logos ek tēs Parthenou eilēphōs, alla synaïdios tǭ heautou Patri hyparchōn, tēn tēs physeōs tēs hēmeteras ē) aparchēn heautǭ dia pollēn agathotēta henōsai katēxiōsen, ou chratheis, all᾽ en hekaterais tais ousiais heis kai ho autos phaneis, kata to gegrammenon" « Lysate ton naon touton, kai en trisin hēmerais egerō auton. » Lyetai gar ho Christos Theos kata tēn emēn kai lelymenon egeirei ton nchon ho autos kata tēn theian ousian, kath᾽ hēn kai pantōn hyparchei dēmiourgos. Oudepote meta tēn henōsin, hēn ex hautēs tēs syllēpseōs heautǭ henōsai katēxiōsen, hē apostas tou oikeiou naou, ē apostēnai dia tēn aphaton philanthrōpian dynamenos. ᾿All᾽ estin ho hautos pathētos kai apathēs " pathētyos kata tēn anthrōpotēta, apathēs kata tēn theotēta. “Idete gar, idete me, hoti egō eimi, kai ouk ēlloiōmai. Egeiras toigaroun ton heautou naun ho theos Logos, kai en autǭ tēs physeō? hēmōn anastasin kai ananeōsin ergasamenos, kai tautēn tois heautou mathētais deixas, elege, e« Rhplaphēsate me, kai idete, hoti pneuma sarka kai ostea ouk echei, kathōs eme theōreite, ouk onta, all᾽ echonta " » hina kai ton echonta, kai to echomenon katanoēsas, ou krasin, ou tropēn, ouk alloiōsin, all᾽ henōsin gegenēmenēn hepidois. Dia touto kai tous typous tōn hēlōn, kai tēs lonchēs tēn nyxin epedeixe, kai emprosthen mathētōn ephagen, hina dia pantōn tēn anastasin tēs hēmeteras physeōs en autǭ ananeōtheisan pistōsētai autous. Kai hoti kata tēn makarian tēs theotētos ousian atreptos, analloiōtos, apathēs, athanatos, anendeēs diatelōn, panta ta pathē eiase kata synchōrēsin tǭ oikeiǭ epenechthēnai naǭ, kai touton tę̄ oikeią anestēse dynamei, dia te tou oikeiou naou teleian tēn ana» neōsin tēs hēmeteras exeirgosato physeōs. Tous de legontas psilon anthrōpon ton Christon, hē pathēton ton Theon Logon, hē eis sarka trapenta, hē synousiōmenon eschēkenai to sōma, hē ouranothen touto chechēmichenai, hē phantasma einai, hē thnēton legontas ton Theon Logon dedeēsthai tēs para tou Patros anastaseōs, hē apsychon to sōma aneilēphenai, hē anoun anthrōpon, hē tas dyo physeis tou Christou kata anakrasin synchytheisas mian gegenēsthai physin, kai mē homologountas eis Kyrion hēmōn Iēsoun Christon dyo physeis einai asynchytons, hen de prosōpon, katho heis Christos, heis Huios, toutous anathematizei hē katholikē,
Of the same, from the same discourse: “It is the body, then, to which he says, ‘Sit at my right hand’ … he says, which is his body … received being called from the beginning. And when he says, ‘The Holy Spirit was not yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified,’ he speaks of his flesh, not yet glorified. For the Lord of glory is not glorified, but the flesh of the Lord of glory itself receives glory as it ascends with him into heaven. Hence he says that the Spirit of adoption was not yet among human beings, because the firstfruits taken from human beings had not yet ascended into heaven. Whatever, then, the Scripture says the Son received and how he was glorified, it says because of his humanity, not his Godhead.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “So this one is true God, both before he became human and after he became mediator of God and human beings, Jesus Christ, united to the Father according to the spirit and to us according to the flesh; who mediated between God and human beings, being not only human but also God.” Of holy Ambrose, bishop of Milan. In an exposition of faith: “We confess our Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father without beginning before all ages according to the Godhead, and in the last days the same made flesh from the holy Virgin Mary, having assumed the perfect human being, of rational soul and body; consubstantial with the Father according to the Godhead, and consubstantial with us according to the humanity. For a union of two perfect natures has taken place inexpressibly. Therefore we confess one Christ, one Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, knowing that, being coeternal with his own Father according to the Godhead, according to which he is also the Creator of all things, he deigned, after the consent of the holy Virgin, when she said to the angel, ‘Behold the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word,’ ineffably to build for himself a temple from her, and to unite it to himself from the very conception; not bringing down from heaven a body coeternal with him from his own substance, but taking it from the lump of our substance, that is, from the Virgin, and uniting it to himself. God the Word was not changed into flesh, nor did he appear as a phantom; but keeping his own substance immutably and unalterably, he took the firstfruits of our nature and united it to himself. God the Word did not take a beginning from the Virgin, but, being coeternal with his own Father, he deigned in his great goodness to unite to himself the firstfruits of our nature, not being blended, but appearing one and the same in both substances, according to what is written: ‘Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.’ For Christ [is destroyed] according to my [nature] …, and the same raises the destroyed temple according to the divine substance, according to which he is also the Creator of all things. Never after the union, which he deigned to make with himself from the very conception, did he depart from his own temple, nor could he depart from it, because of his unspeakable love for humankind. But the same is passible and impassible: passible according to the humanity, impassible according to the Godhead. ‘See, see me, that I am, and I have not changed.’ Having raised, then, his own temple, God the Word, having worked in it the resurrection and renewal of our nature, and showing this to his disciples, said, ‘Touch me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see me’, not being but having, so that you, perceiving both the one who has and what is had, may see not a blending, not a change, not an alteration, but a union that has taken place. For this reason he also showed the prints of the nails and the piercing of the lance, and ate before the disciples, so that by all means he might assure them that the resurrection of our nature had been renewed in him; and that, remaining in the blessed substance of the Godhead immutable, unalterable, impassible, immortal, without need, he allowed by permission all the sufferings to be brought upon his own temple, and raised it by his own power, and through his own temple accomplished the perfect renewal of our nature. Those who say that Christ is a mere human being, or that God the Word is passible, or was changed into flesh, or had a body of one substance with him, or brought it down from heaven, or that it is a phantom; or who say that God the Word, being mortal, needed resurrection from the Father; or that he assumed a soulless body or a mindless human being; or that the two natures of Christ, confused by blending, became one nature; and who do not confess that in our Lord Jesus Christ there are two unconfused natures but one person, inasmuch as there is one Christ, one Son: these the catholic …
Ps 110:1 (109:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:39 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:38 (quotation, high confidence) · John 2:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 32:39 (quotation, medium confidence) · Mal 3:6 (quotation, medium confidence) · Luke 24:39 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:43 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Texts under Athanasius' name refer Christ's glorification to his flesh; an exposition of faith ascribed to Ambrose confesses one Christ in two perfect, unconfused natures, consubstantial with the Father and with us, and anathematizes those who confuse or divide them.
- Florilegium. Quotations: two further passages from the treatise ascribed to Athanasius in the previous section; an 'exposition of faith' ascribed by Theodoret to Ambrose of Milan (the ascription is uncertain; the Greek text is preserved here). Terms rendered exactly: φύσις 'nature', πρόσωπον 'person', ἀσύγχυτος 'unconfused', ἄτρεπτος 'immutable', ἀπαθής 'impassible', ὁμοούσιος 'consubstantial'. Words lost in the OCR in the gloss on John 2:19 are marked '…'. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: Ps 110:1 (LXX 109:1); John 7:39; 1 Cor 2:8; 1 Tim 2:5; Luke 1:38; John 2:19; Deut 32:39; Mal 3:6; Luke 24:39; John 20:20, 27; Luke 24:43.
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Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.32 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).
2.33PG 83
καὶ ἀποστολικὴ Ἐκκλησία. ---Τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Οὐκοῦν εἰ ἡ τῶν πάντων σὰρξ, ἐν Χριστῷ ὑποδέδληται πῶς μετὰ τῆς θεότητος μιᾶς εἶναι ὑποστάσεως νὸμίζεται; Εἰ γὰρ μιᾶς ὑποστάσεως ὁ Λόγος καὶ ἣ σὰρξ ἣ ἀπὸ γῆς τὴν φύσιν ἔχουσα, μιᾶς ἄρα ὑπϑστάσεως ὁ Λόγος καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ, ἣν τελείαν ἀνέλαδςε, Μιᾶς γὰρ φύσεώς ἐστιν ὁ Λόγος μετὰ τοῦ θεοῦ, καὶ κατὰ τὴν τοῦ Πατρὸς, καὶ αὐτοῦ τοῦ Υἱοῦ ὁμολογίαν τὴν λέγουσαν, ε« Ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ ἕν ἐσμεν" » οὐκοῦν καὶ ὁ Πατὴρ τῆς αὐτῆ: οὐσίας μετὰ τοῦ σὼμᾶτος ὀφείλει νομίζεσθαι. Καὶ τί ἔτι τοῖς ᾿Λρειανοῖς χολᾶτε, τοῖ; λέγουσι τὸν Υἱὸν τοῦ Θεοῦ κτίσμα εἶνα:, αὐτοὶ λέγοντες τὸν Πατέρα μιᾶς εἶναι μετὰ τῶν κτισμάτων οὐσίας : -- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ ὃὧκ τῆς πρὸς διαίρεσιν θεότητος καὶ σαρχό-. Εἷς τοῖς ἐκατέροις ἀποχρίνεται ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ, ἐπειδὴ ἐν αὐτῷ ἑχάτεραι φύσεις εἰσίν. Ὁ αὐτὸς λαλεῖ, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ ἑνὶ πάντοτε, ἀλλ᾽ ἑτέρω τρόπῳ. Πρόσεχε αὐτὸν, νῦν μὲν δόξαν φθεγγόμενον, νῦν δὲ ἀνθρώπινα πάθη. Ὡς Θεὸς λαλεῖ τὰ θεῖα, ἐπειδήπερ ὁ Λόγος ἐστίν - ὡς ἄνθρωπος λέγει τὰ ταπεινὰ, ἐπειδήπερὲν τῇ ἐμῇ ὑποστάσει λαλεῖ (3|).--- Τοῦ αὐτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ «1όγου, υθεν ἐκεῖνο τὸ ἀναγνωσθὲν, ὡς ὁ Κύριος τῆς δόξης ἐσταύρωται, μὴ τῇ ἑαυτοῦ δόξῃ σταυρωθέντα νομίσωμεν. ᾿Αλλ᾽ ἐπειδὴ οὗτος Θεός τε καὶ ἄνθρωπος, κατὰ μὲν τὴν θεότητα Θεὸς, κατὰ δὲ τὴν πρόσληψιν τῆς σαρκὺς ἄνθρωπος Ἰησοῦς Χριστὸς, ὁ Κύριος τῆς δόξης ἐσταυρῶσθαι λέγεται. Ἀαὶ γὰρ ἑκατέρας μετέχει φύσεως, τουτέστιν ἀνθρωπίνης καὶ θείας. Ἐν τῇ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου γὰρ φύσει τὸ πάθος ὑπέμεινεν, ἵνα ἀδιαιρέτως καὶ Κύριος τῆς δόξης, καὶ Υἱὸς ἀνθρώπου εἶναι λέγηται ὁ παθὼν, καθὼς γέγραπται, « Ὁ ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ χαταθάς. » --- Ὁμοίως ἐκ τοῦ αὐτοῦ. Σιγάτωσαν τοιγαροῦν αἱ περὶ τῶν λόγων μάταιαι ζητήσεις. Ἡ γὰρ ᾿ βασιλεία τοῦ Θεοῦ, καθὼς γέγραπται, οὐκ ἐν πειθοῖ; λόγων ἐστὶν, ἀλλ᾽ ἐν ἀποδείξει δυνάμεως. Φυλάξωμεν τὴν διαφορὰν τῆς σαρκὸς καὶ τῆς θεότητος. Εἷς γὰρ Θεοῦ Υἱὸς, εἷς ἑκάτερα λαλεῖ, ἐπειδήπερ ἑκατέρα φύσις ἐστὶν ἐν αὐτῷ. ᾿Αλλ᾽ εἰ καὶ αὑτὸς λαλεῖ, οὐκ ἑνὶ μέντοι γε πάντοτε τρόπῳ λαλεῖ. Ορᾷς γὰρ ἐν αὐτῷ νῦν μὲν δόξαν Θεοῦ, νῦν δὲ πάγη ἀνθρπον. Ὥς Θεὸς λαλεῖ τὰ θεῖα, ἐπειδήπερ Λόγος" ὡς ἄνθρωπος λαλεῖ τὰ ἀνθρώπινα, ἐπειδήπερ ἐν ταύτῃ ἐλάλει τῇ φύσει. --- Τοῦ αὑτοῦ, ἐκ τοῦ 1όγου τοῦ περὶ τῆς ἐν- ᾿Αλλ ἐν ὅσῳ τούτους ἐλέγχομεν, ἀνεφύηπαν ἕτεροι, λέγοντες τό τε σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ τὴν θεότητα μιᾶς φύσεως εἶναι Ποῖος ἅδη-ς τὴν τοσαύτην βλασφημίαν ἐρεύξανο; ᾿Αρειανοὶ γὰρ ἤδη τυγχάνουσιν ἀνεχτότεροι, ὧν ἡ ἀπιστία διὰ τούτους χρατύνεται, ὥστε μείζονι φιλονεικίᾳ Πατέρα, καὶ Υἱὸν, καὶ ἅγιον Πνεῦμα μιᾶς οὐσίας μὴ λέγειν ἐπειδήπερ οὗτοι τὴν θεότητα τοῦ Κυρίον, καὶ τὴν σάρκα, μιᾶς
kai apostolikē Ekklēsia. ---Tou autou. Oukoun ei hē tōn pantōn sarx, en Christǭ hypodedlētai pōs meta tēs theotētos mias einai hypostaseōs nomizetai? Ei gar mias hypostaseōs ho Logos kai hē sarx hē apo gēs tēn physin echousa, mias ara hypϑstaseōs ho Logos kai hē psychē, hēn teleian aneladse, Mias gar physeōs estin ho Logos meta tou theou, kai kata tēn tou Patros, kai autou tou Huiou homologian tēn legousan, e« Egō kai ho Patēr hen esmen" » oukoun kai ho Patēr tēs autē: ousias meta tou sōmatos opheilei nomizesthai. Kai ti eti tois ᾿Lreianois cholate, toi? legousi ton Huion tou Theou ktisma eina:, autoi legontes ton Patera mias einai meta tōn ktismatōn ousias : -- Tou hautou hoōk tēs pros diairesin theotētos kai sarcho-. Heis tois ekaterois apochrinetai ho Huios tou Theou, epeidē en autǭ hechaterai physeis eisin. Ho autos lalei, all᾽ ouk heni pantote, all᾽ heterō tropǭ. Proseche auton, nyn men doxan phthengomenon, nyn de anthrōpina pathē. Hōs Theos lalei ta theia, epeidēper ho Logos estin - hōs anthrōpos legei ta tapeina, epeidēperen tę̄ emę̄ hypostasei lalei (3|).--- Tou autou, ek tou autou «1ogou, ythen ekeino to anagnōsthen, hōs ho Kyrios tēs doxēs estaurōtai, mē tę̄ heautou doxę̄ staurōthenta nomisōmen. ᾿All᾽ epeidē houtos Theos te kai anthrōpos, kata men tēn theotēta Theos, kata de tēn proslēpsin tēs sarkys anthrōpos Iēsous Christos, ho Kyrios tēs doxēs estaurōsthai legetai. Aai gar hekateras metechei physeōs, toutestin anthrōpinēs kai theias. En tę̄ tou anthrōpou gar physei to pathos hypemeinen, hina adiairetōs kai Kyrios tēs doxēs, kai Huios anthrōpou einai legētai ho pathōn, kathōs gegraptai, « Ho ek tou ouranou chatathas. » --- Homoiōs ek tou autou. Sigatōsan toigaroun hai peri tōn logōn mataiai zētēseis. Hē gar ᾿ basileia tou Theou, kathōs gegraptai, ouk en peithoi? logōn estin, all᾽ en apodeixei dynameōs. Phylaxōmen tēn diaphoran tēs sarkos kai tēs theotētos. Heis gar Theou Huios, heis hekatera lalei, epeidēper hekatera physis estin en autǭ. ᾿All᾽ ei kai hautos lalei, ouk heni mentoi ge pantote tropǭ lalei. Orąs gar en autǭ nyn men doxan Theou, nyn de pagē anthrpon. Hōs Theos lalei ta theia, epeidēper Logos" hōs anthrōpos lalei ta anthrōpina, epeidēper en tautę̄ elalei tę̄ physei. --- Tou hautou, ek tou 1ogou tou peri tēs en- ᾿All en hosǭ toutous elenchomen, anephyēpan heteroi, legontes to te sōma tou Christou kai tēn theotēta mias physeōs einai Poios hadē-s tēn tosautēn blasphēmian ereuxano? ᾿Areianoi gar ēdē tynchanousin anechtoteroi, hōn hē apistia dia toutous chratynetai, hōste meizoni philoneikią Patera, kai Huion, kai hagion Pneuma mias ousias mē legein epeidēper houtoi tēn theotēta tou Kyrion, kai tēn sarka, mias
and apostolic Church.” Of the same: “If, then, the flesh of all human beings is subject in Christ, how is it thought to be of one hypostasis with the Godhead? For if the Word and the flesh, which has its nature from the earth, are of one hypostasis, then the Word and the soul, which he assumed complete, are of one hypostasis. For the Word is of one nature with God, according to the confession both of the Father and of the Son himself, which says, ‘I and the Father are one’; then the Father too must be thought to be of the same substance with the body. And why are you still angry with the Arians, who say that the Son of God is a creature, when you yourselves say that the Father is of one substance with creatures?” Of the same, from the [discourse] on the distinction of Godhead and flesh: “The one Son of God answers to both, since both natures are in him. The same one speaks, but not always in one way, but in another. Attend to him, speaking now of glory, now of human sufferings. As God he speaks the divine things, since he is the Word; as human he speaks the lowly things, since he speaks in my hypostasis.” Of the same, from the same discourse: “Hence, when it is read that the Lord of glory was crucified, let us not think that he was crucified in his own glory. But since this one is God and human, God according to the Godhead and, according to the assumption of the flesh, the human Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory is said to have been crucified. For he partakes of each nature, that is, the human and the divine. For he underwent the suffering in the nature of the human being, so that the one who suffered may be said, without division, to be both Lord of glory and Son of Man, as it is written, ‘He who descended from heaven.’” Likewise, from the same: “Let vain inquiries about words, then, be silent. For the kingdom of God, as it is written, is not in persuasive words but in demonstration of power. Let us keep the distinction of the flesh and the Godhead. For one is the Son of God; one speaks both, since each nature is in him. But even if the same one speaks, he does not always speak in one way. For you see in him now the glory of God, now the sufferings of the human being. As God he speaks the divine things, since he is the Word; as human he speaks the human things, since he spoke in this nature.” Of the same, from the discourse on the incarnation: “But while we were refuting these, others sprang up, saying that the body of Christ and the Godhead are of one nature. What Hades belched forth such blasphemy? The Arians are now more tolerable, whose unbelief is strengthened by these men, so that with greater contentiousness they deny that the Father and Son and Holy Spirit are of one substance, since these men have tried to say that the Godhead of the Lord and the flesh are of one nature.”
John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:4 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:20 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Passages ascribed to Ambrose (continuing the previous section): Christ speaks sometimes as God and sometimes as man because both natures are in the one Son; the Lord of glory was crucified in his human nature; to call Godhead and flesh one nature is worse than Arianism.
- Florilegium. The quotations continue the passages ascribed to Ambrose (the anathemas end with 'the catholic and apostolic Church'); the later ones correspond to Ambrose's Latin works On the Faith 2.9 and On the Sacrament of the Lord's Incarnation (identification not checked in detail). 'In my hypostasis' (ἐν τῇ ἐμῇ ὑποστάσει) renders the Greek; the Latin has 'substance'. Migne's Latin column and notes read as Greek letters have been removed (logged corrections). Scripture: John 10:30; 1 Cor 2:8; John 3:13; 1 Cor 2:4; 1 Cor 4:20.
Notes on the original text
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Topics: Christology, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Eran. 2.33 (PG 83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-eranistes/2-33
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 83 (archive.org OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so every section was re-read against the Greek (dialogues 1-2 partly by the translator and partly in a separate review pass).