Against Celsus 5.45–5.60

Greek text: Koetschau, GCS 2–3 (Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885).

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Chapter 5

5.45Koetschau 2:48–50

Ἀλλʼ ἐπεὶ Κέλσος οἴεται μηδὲν διαφέρειν Δία Ὕψιστον καλεῖν ἢ Ζῆνα ἢ Ἀδωναῖον ἢ Σαβαὼθ ἢ, ὡς Αἰγύπτιοι, Ἀμοῦν ἢ, ὡς Σκύθαι, Παπαῖον, φέρε καὶ περὶ τούτων ὀλίγα διαλεχθῶμεν, ὑπομιμνήσκοντες ἅμα τὸν ἐντυγχάνοντα καὶ τῶν ἀνωτέρω εἰς τὸ τοιοῦτον πρόβλημα εἰρημένων, ὅτʼ ἐκάλεσεν ἡμᾶς ἡ Κέλσου λέξις ἐπὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα. καὶ νῦν οὖν φαμεν ὅτι ἡ τῶν ὀνομάτων φύσις οὐ θεμένων εἰσὶ νόμοι, ὡς Ἀριστοτέλης οἴεται. οὐδὲ γὰρ ἀπὸ ἀνθρώπων τὴν ἀρχὴν ἔχουσιν αἱ ἐν ἀνθρώποις διάλεκτοι, ὡς δῆλον τοῖς ἐφιστάνειν δυναμένοις φύσει ἐπῳδῶν, οἰκειουμένων κατὰ τὰς διαφόρους διαλέκτους καὶ τοὺς διαφόρους φθόγγους τῶν ὀνομάτων τοῖς πατράσι τῶν διαλέκτων· περὶ ὧν ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω ἐπʼ ὀλίγον διειλήφαμεν, λέγοντες ὅτι καὶ μεταλαμβανόμενα εἰς ἄλλην διάλεκτον τὰ πεφυκότα δύνασθαι ἐν τῇ δεῖνα διαλέκτῳ οὐκέτι ἀνύει τι, ὡς ἤνυσεν ἐν ταῖς οἰκείαις φωναῖς. ἤδη δὲ καὶ ἐπʼ ἀνθρώπων τὸ τοιοῦτον εὑρίσκεται· τὸν γὰρ ἀπὸ γενέσεως Ἑλλάδι διαλέκτῳ καλούμενον τὸν δεῖνα οὐκ ἂν μεταλαβόντες εἰς διάλεκτον Αἰγυπτίων ἢ Ῥωμαίων ἤ τινος ἄλλου ποιήσαιμεν παθεῖν ἢ δρᾶσαι, ἅπερ πάθοι ἢ δράσαι ἂν καλούμενος τῇ πρώτῃ θέσει τοῦ ὀνόματος αὐτοῦ. ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ τὸν ἐξ ἀρχῆς Ῥωμαίων κληθέντα φωνῇ εἰ μεταλάβοιμεν ἐπὶ τὴν Ἑλλάδα διάλεκτον, ποιήσαιμεν ἂν, ὅπερ ποιεῖν ἐπαγγέλλεται ἡ ἐπῳδὴ, τηροῦσα τὸ κατονομασθὲν αὐτῷ πρῶτον ὄνομα. εἰ δὲ ταῦτα περὶ ἀνθρωπίνων ὀνομάτων λεγόμενά ἐστιν ἀληθῆ, τί χρὴ νομίζειν ἐπὶ τῶν διʼ ἡνδήποτε αἰτίαν ἀναφερομένων ἐπὶ τὸ θεῖον ὀνομάτων; μεταλαμβάνεται γάρ (τι) φέρʼ εἰπεῖν εἰς Ἑλλάδα φωνὴν ἀπὸ τοῦ Ἀβραὰμ ὀνόματος καὶ σημαίνεταί τι ἀπὸ τῆς Ἰσαὰκ προσηγορίας καὶ δηλοῦταί τι ἀπὸ τῆς Ἰακὼβ φωνῆς. καὶ ἐὰν μὲν ὁ καλῶν ἢ ὁ ὁρκῶν ὀνομάζῃ θεὸν Ἀβραὰμ καὶ θεὸν Ἰσαὰκ καὶ θεὸν Ἰακὼβ, τόδε τι ποιήσαι ἂν ἤτοι διὰ τὴν τούτων (τῶν ὀνομάτων) φύσιν ἢ καὶ δύναμιν αὐτῶν, καὶ δαιμόνων νικωμένων καὶ ὑποταττομένων τῷ λέγοντι ταῦτα· ἐὰν δὲ λέγῃ· ὁ θεὸς πατρὸς ἐκλεκτοῦ τῆς ἠχοῦς καὶ ὁ θεὸς τοῦ γέλωτος καὶ ὁ θεὸς τοῦ πτερνιστοῦ, οὕτως οὐδὲν ποιεῖ τὸ ὀνομαζόμενον ὡς οὐδʼ ἄλλο τι τῶν μηδεμίαν δύναμιν ἐχόντων. οὕτω δὲ κἂν μὲν μεταλάβωμεν τὸ Ἰσραὴλ ὄνομα εἰς Ἑλλάδα ἢ ἄλλην διάλεκτον, οὐδὲν ποιήσομεν· ἐὰν δὲ τηρήσωμεν αὐτὸ, προσάπτοντες οἷς οἱ περὶ ταῦτα δεινοὶ συμπλέκειν αὐτὸ ᾠήθησαν, τότε γένοιτʼ ἄν τι κατὰ τὴν ἐπαγγελίαν τῶν τοιωνδὶ ἐπικλήσεων ἐκ τῆς τοιασδὶ φωνῆς. τὸ δʼ ὅμοιον ἐροῦμεν καὶ περὶ τῆς Σαβαὼθ φωνῆς, πολλαχοῦ τῶν ἐπῳδῶν παραλαμβανομένης, ὅτι μεταλαμβάνοντες μὲν τὸ ὄνομα εἰς τὸ „κύριος τῶν δυνάμεων“ ἢ „κύριος στρατιῶν“ ἢ „παντοκράτωρ“ (διαφόρως γὰρ αὐτὸ ἐξεδέξαντο οἱ ἑρμηνεύοντες αὐτὸ), οὐδὲν ποιήσομεν· τηροῦντες δʼ αὐτὸ ἐν τοῖς ἰδίοις φθόγγοις, ποιήσομέν τι, ὥς φασιν οἱ περὶ ταῦτα δεινοί. τὸ δʼ ὅμοιον ἐροῦμεν καὶ περὶ τοῦ Ἀδωναΐ. εἴπερ οὖν οὔτε τὸ Σαβαὼθ οὔτε τὸ Ἀδωναῒ, μεταλαμβανόμενα εἰς ἃ δοκεῖ σημαίνειν ἐν Ἑλλάδι φωνῇ, ἀνύει τι, πόσῳ πλέον οὐδὲν ἂν ποιήσαι οὐδὲ δυνηθείη παρὰ τοῖς μηδὲν διαφέρειν οἰομένοις Δία Ὕψιστον καλεῖν ἢ Ζῆνα ἢ Ἀδωναῖον ἢ Σαβαώθ;

Allʼ epei Kelsos oietai mēden diapherein Dia Hypsiston kalein ē Zēna ē Adōnaion ē Sabaōth ē, hōs Aigyptioi, Amoun ē, hōs Skythai, Papaion, phere kai peri toutōn oliga dialechthōmen, hypomimnēskontes hama ton entynchanonta kai tōn anōterō eis to toiouton problēma eirēmenōn, hotʼ ekalesen hēmas hē Kelsou lexis epi ta toiauta. kai nyn oun phamen hoti hē tōn onomatōn physis ou themenōn eisi nomoi, hōs Aristotelēs oietai. oude gar apo anthrōpōn tēn archēn echousin hai en anthrōpois dialektoi, hōs dēlon tois ephistanein dynamenois physei epǭdōn, oikeioumenōn kata tas diaphorous dialektous kai tous diaphorous phthongous tōn onomatōn tois patrasi tōn dialektōn; peri hōn en tois anōterō epʼ oligon dieilēphamen, legontes hoti kai metalambanomena eis allēn dialekton ta pephykota dynasthai en tę̄ deina dialektǭ ouketi anyei ti, hōs ēnysen en tais oikeiais phōnais. ēdē de kai epʼ anthrōpōn to toiouton heurisketai; ton gar apo geneseōs Helladi dialektǭ kaloumenon ton deina ouk an metalabontes eis dialekton Aigyptiōn ē Rhōmaiōn ē tinos allou poiēsaimen pathein ē drasai, haper pathoi ē drasai an kaloumenos tę̄ prōtę̄ thesei tou onomatos autou. allʼ oude ton ex archēs Rhōmaiōn klēthenta phōnę̄ ei metalaboimen epi tēn Hellada dialekton, poiēsaimen an, hoper poiein epangelletai hē epǭdē, tērousa to katonomasthen autǭ prōton onoma. ei de tauta peri anthrōpinōn onomatōn legomena estin alēthē, ti chrē nomizein epi tōn diʼ hēndēpote aitian anapheromenōn epi to theion onomatōn? metalambanetai gar (ti) pherʼ eipein eis Hellada phōnēn apo tou Abraam onomatos kai sēmainetai ti apo tēs Isaak prosēgorias kai dēloutai ti apo tēs Iakōb phōnēs. kai ean men ho kalōn ē ho horkōn onomazę̄ theon Abraam kai theon Isaak kai theon Iakōb, tode ti poiēsai an ētoi dia tēn toutōn (tōn onomatōn) physin ē kai dynamin autōn, kai daimonōn nikōmenōn kai hypotattomenōn tǭ legonti tauta; ean de legę̄; ho theos patros eklektou tēs ēchous kai ho theos tou gelōtos kai ho theos tou pternistou, houtōs ouden poiei to onomazomenon hōs oudʼ allo ti tōn mēdemian dynamin echontōn. houtō de kan men metalabōmen to Israēl onoma eis Hellada ē allēn dialekton, ouden poiēsomen; ean de tērēsōmen auto, prosaptontes hois hoi peri tauta deinoi symplekein auto ǭēthēsan, tote genoitʼ an ti kata tēn epangelian tōn toiōndi epiklēseōn ek tēs toiasdi phōnēs. to dʼ homoion eroumen kai peri tēs Sabaōth phōnēs, pollachou tōn epǭdōn paralambanomenēs, hoti metalambanontes men to onoma eis to „kyrios tōn dynameōn“ ē „kyrios stratiōn“ ē „pantokratōr“ (diaphorōs gar auto exedexanto hoi hermēneuontes auto), ouden poiēsomen; tērountes dʼ auto en tois idiois phthongois, poiēsomen ti, hōs phasin hoi peri tauta deinoi. to dʼ homoion eroumen kai peri tou Adōnaï. eiper oun oute to Sabaōth oute to Adōnaï, metalambanomena eis ha dokei sēmainein en Helladi phōnę̄, anyei ti, posǭ pleon ouden an poiēsai oude dynētheiē para tois mēden diapherein oiomenois Dia Hypsiston kalein ē Zēna ē Adōnaion ē Sabaōth?

But since Celsus thinks it makes no difference whether one calls the Most High Zeus, or Zen, or Adonai, or Sabaoth, or, as the Egyptians do, Amoun, or, as the Scythians do, Papaeus, come, let us discuss these matters briefly too, reminding the reader at the same time of what was said above on this problem, when Celsus's words called us to such matters. We say now too that the nature of names is not a matter of conventions made by those who assign them, as Aristotle thinks. For the languages among human beings do not have their origin from human beings, as is clear to those who can attend to the nature of incantations, which are appropriated, according to the different languages and the different sounds of the names, by the fathers of those languages. About these we spoke briefly above, saying that what naturally has power in a given language, when translated into another language, no longer accomplishes anything as it did in its own sounds. This is found even with human beings: for if someone has been called by a certain name from birth in the Greek language, we would not, by translating it into the language of the Egyptians or the Romans or any other people, make him suffer or do what he would suffer or do when called by the original form of his name. Nor, if we translated into Greek the name of someone called from the beginning in the Roman tongue, would we accomplish what the incantation promises to do while keeping the name first given him. If these things said about human names are true, what must we think about names that are for whatever reason referred to the divine? For something is translated into Greek, for example, from the name Abraham, and something is signified by the name Isaac, and something shown by the word Jacob. And if the one who invokes or adjures names "the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob," he may accomplish a certain thing, whether through the nature of these names or through their power, demons being overcome and made subject to the one who says them; but if he says "the God of the chosen father of the echo, and the God of laughter, and the God of the heel-grabber," what is named accomplishes nothing, like anything else without power. So too, if we translate the name Israel into Greek or another language, we will accomplish nothing; but if we keep it, attaching it to what those skilled in these things thought fit to combine it with, then something might happen, according to the promise of such invocations, from such a word. We will say the same about the word Sabaoth too, which is used in many incantations: if we translate the name as "Lord of the powers" or "Lord of hosts" or "Almighty" (for its interpreters have understood it differently), we will accomplish nothing; but if we keep it in its own sounds, we will accomplish something, as those skilled in these things say. We will say the same about Adonai too. If, then, neither Sabaoth nor Adonai, translated into what they seem to mean in the Greek tongue, accomplishes anything, how much less would it accomplish or have any power among those who think it makes no difference whether one calls the Most High Zeus, or Zen, or Adonai, or Sabaoth?

Exod 3:6 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Against Celsus's view that divine names are interchangeable, Origen argues that names have power by nature, not convention: 'the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob' works against demons, but translated or replaced names do not.

  • Aristotle's view that names are conventional is in On Interpretation 2 (16a19–29). "Chosen father of the echo," "laughter," and "heel-grabber" translate the meanings of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The parentheses (τι) and (τῶν ὀνομάτων) are the editor's supplements. Origen treats the power of divine names in incantations as a real phenomenon.

Extrabiblical texts: Aristotle, Int. 16a (Aristotle (works); allusion)

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.45 (Koetschau 2:48–50; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-45).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.46Koetschau 2:50–51

Ταῦτα δὴ καὶ τὰ τούτοις ἀνάλογον ἀπόῤῥητα ἐπιστάμενοι Μωϋσῆς καὶ οἱ προφῆται ἀπαγορεύουσιν „ὄνομα θεῶν ἑτέρων“ ὀνομάζειν ἐν στόματι, μελετήσαντι τῷ ἐπὶ πᾶσι μόνῳ εὔχεσθαι θεῷ, καὶ ἀναμνημονεύειν ἐν καρδίᾳ, διδασκομένῃ καθαρεύειν ἀπὸ πάσης ματαιότητος νοημάτων καὶ λέξεων. καὶ διὰ τὰ τοιαῦτα πᾶσαν αἰκίαν ὑπομένειν μᾶλλον αἱρούμεθα ἢ τὸν Δία ὁμολογῆσαι θεόν. οὐ γὰρ τὸν αὐτὸν εἶναι ὑπολαμβάνομεν Δία καὶ Σαβαὼθ, ἀλλʼ οὐδʼ ὅλως θεῖόν τι τὸν Δία, δαίμονα δέ τινα χαίρειν οὕτως ὀνομαζόμενον, οὐ φίλον ἀνθρώποις οὐδὲ τῷ ἀληθινῷ θεῷ. κἂν Αἰγύπτιοι δὲ τὸν Ἀμοῦν ἡμῖν προτείνωσιν κόλασιν ἀπειλοῦντες, τεθνηξόμεθα μᾶλλον ἢ τὸν Ἀμοῦν ἀναγορεύσομεν θεὸν, παραλαμβανόμενον ὡς εἰκὸς ἔν τισιν Αἰγυπτίαις καλούσαις τὸν δαίμονα τοῦτον ἐπῳδαῖς. λεγέτωσαν δὲ καὶ Σκύθαι τὸν Παπαῖον θεὸν εἶναι τὸν ἐπὶ πᾶσιν· ἀλλʼ ἡμεῖς οὐ πεισόμεθα. τιθέντες μὲν τὸν ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεὸν. ὡς δὲ φίλον τῷ λαχόντι τὴν Σκυθῶν ἐρημίαν καὶ τὸ ἔθνος αὐτῶν καὶ τὴν διάλεκτον οὐκ ὀνομάζοντες τὸν θεὸν ὡς κυρίῳ ὀνόματι τῷ Παπαῖον. Σκυθιστὶ γὰρ τὸ προσηγορικὸν τὸν θεὸν καὶ Αἰγυπτιστὶ καὶ πάσῃ διαλέκτῳ, ᾗ ἕκαστος ἐντέθραπται. ὀνομάζων οὐχ ἁμαρτήσεται.

Tauta dē kai ta toutois analogon aporrhēta epistamenoi Mōÿsēs kai hoi prophētai apagoreuousin „onoma theōn heterōn“ onomazein en stomati, meletēsanti tǭ epi pasi monǭ euchesthai theǭ, kai anamnēmoneuein en kardią, didaskomenę̄ kathareuein apo pasēs mataiotētos noēmatōn kai lexeōn. kai dia ta toiauta pasan aikian hypomenein mallon hairoumetha ē ton Dia homologēsai theon. ou gar ton auton einai hypolambanomen Dia kai Sabaōth, allʼ oudʼ holōs theion ti ton Dia, daimona de tina chairein houtōs onomazomenon, ou philon anthrōpois oude tǭ alēthinǭ theǭ. kan Aigyptioi de ton Amoun hēmin proteinōsin kolasin apeilountes, tethnēxometha mallon ē ton Amoun anagoreusomen theon, paralambanomenon hōs eikos en tisin Aigyptiais kalousais ton daimona touton epǭdais. legetōsan de kai Skythai ton Papaion theon einai ton epi pasin; allʼ hēmeis ou peisometha. tithentes men ton epi pasi theon. hōs de philon tǭ lachonti tēn Skythōn erēmian kai to ethnos autōn kai tēn dialekton ouk onomazontes ton theon hōs kyriǭ onomati tǭ Papaion. Skythisti gar to prosēgorikon ton theon kai Aigyptisti kai pasę̄ dialektǭ, hę̄ hekastos entethraptai. onomazōn ouch hamartēsetai.

Knowing these and similar secret matters, Moses and the prophets forbid us to name "the name of other gods" with a mouth trained to pray to the God over all alone, or to call them to mind in a heart taught to be pure of all vanity of thoughts and words. And for such reasons we choose to endure every outrage rather than acknowledge Zeus as God. For we do not suppose Zeus and Sabaoth to be the same; indeed we do not think Zeus divine at all, but a certain demon who delights in being so named, no friend to human beings or to the true God. And even if the Egyptians hold out Amoun to us, threatening punishment, we will die rather than proclaim Amoun a god, who is probably invoked in certain Egyptian incantations that call up this demon. And let the Scythians say that Papaeus is the God over all; but we will not be persuaded. We do acknowledge the God over all, but we do not name God by Papaeus as a proper name, as pleases the one to whom the Scythian wilderness and their nation and language fell. For one who names God by the common noun in Scythian, or Egyptian, or any language in which he has been brought up, will not sin.

Exod 23:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 16:4 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Moses forbids naming other gods; Christians would die rather than call Zeus or Amoun God, since these are names of demons, though one may call God by the common word for 'God' in any language.

  • The quotation is Exod 23:13 (cf. Ps 16:4).

Topics: Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.46 (Koetschau 2:50–51; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-46).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.47Koetschau 2:51–52

Τὸ δʼ αἴτιον τῆς Ἰουδαίων περιτομῆς οὐ ταὐτὸν ἐστι τῷ αἰτίῳ τῆς Αἰγυπτίων περιτομῆς ἢ Κόλχων· διὸ οὐχ ἡ αὐτὴ νομισθείη ἂν περιτομή. καὶ ὥσπερ ὁ θύων οὐ τῷ αὐτῷ θύει, εἰ καὶ ὁμοίως θύειν δοκεῖ. καὶ ὁ εὐχόμενος οὐ τῷ αὐτῷ εὔχεται, εἰ καὶ τὰ αὐτὰ ἐν ταῖς εὐχαῖς ἀξιοῖ· οὕτως οὐδʼ εἴ τις περιτέμνεται, ἀδιαφορεῖ πάντως τῆς πρὸς ἕτερον περιτομῆς. ἡ γὰρ πρόθεσις καὶ ὁ νόμος καὶ τὸ βούλημα τοῦ περιτέμνοντος ἀλλοῖον ποιεῖ τὸ πρᾶγμα. ἵνα δʼ ἔτι μᾶλλον νοηθῇ τὸ κατὰ τὸν τόπον, λεκτέον ὅτι τὸ τῆς δικαιοσύνης ὄνομα ταὐτὸν μέν ἐστι παρὰ πᾶσιν Ἕλλησιν· ἤδη δὲ ἀποδείκνυται ἄλλη μὲν ἡ κατʼ Ἐπίκουρον δικαιοσύνη, ἄλλη δὲ ἡ κατὰ τοὺς ἀπὸ τῆς Στοᾶς, ἀρνουμένους τὸ τριμερὲς τῆς ψυχῆς, ἄλλη δὲ κατὰ τοὺς ἀπὸ Πλάτωνος, ἰδιοπραγίαν τῶν μερῶν τῆς ψυχῆς φάσκοντας εἶναι τὴν δικαιοσύνην. οὕτω δὲ καὶ ἄλλη μὲν ἡ Ἐπικούρου ἀνδρεία, ὑπομένοντος πόνους διὰ φυγὴν πόνων πλειόνων, ἄλλη δʼ ἡ τοῦ ἀπὸ τῆς Στοᾶς, διʼ αὐτὴν αἱρουμένου πᾶσαν ἀρετὴν. ἄλλη δʼ ἡ ἀπὸ Πλάτωνος, τοῦ θυμικοῦ μέρους τῆς ψυχῆς φάσκοντος αὐτὴν εἶναι ἀρετὴν καὶ ἀποτάσσοντος αὐτῇ τόπον τὸν περὶ τὸν θώρακα. οὕτως δʼ εἴη ἂν κατὰ τὰ διάφορα τῶν περιτεμνομένων δόγματα διάφορος ἡ περιτομὴ, περὶ ἧς ἐν τοιούτῳ συγγράμματι οὐκ ἀναγκαῖον νῦν λέγειν· ὅτῳ γὰρ φίλον ἰδεῖν τὰ κινήσαντα ἡμᾶς εἰς τὸν τόπον, ἀναγνώτω περὶ αὐτοῦ ἐν τοῖς εἰς τὴν πρὸς Ῥωμαίους ἐπιστολὴν Παύλου πραγματευθεῖσιν ἡμῖν.

To dʼ aition tēs Ioudaiōn peritomēs ou tauton esti tǭ aitiǭ tēs Aigyptiōn peritomēs ē Kolchōn; dio ouch hē autē nomistheiē an peritomē. kai hōsper ho thyōn ou tǭ autǭ thyei, ei kai homoiōs thyein dokei. kai ho euchomenos ou tǭ autǭ euchetai, ei kai ta auta en tais euchais axioi; houtōs oudʼ ei tis peritemnetai, adiaphorei pantōs tēs pros heteron peritomēs. hē gar prothesis kai ho nomos kai to boulēma tou peritemnontos alloion poiei to pragma. hina dʼ eti mallon noēthę̄ to kata ton topon, lekteon hoti to tēs dikaiosynēs onoma tauton men esti para pasin Hellēsin; ēdē de apodeiknytai allē men hē katʼ Epikouron dikaiosynē, allē de hē kata tous apo tēs Stoas, arnoumenous to trimeres tēs psychēs, allē de kata tous apo Platōnos, idiopragian tōn merōn tēs psychēs phaskontas einai tēn dikaiosynēn. houtō de kai allē men hē Epikourou andreia, hypomenontos ponous dia phygēn ponōn pleionōn, allē dʼ hē tou apo tēs Stoas, diʼ autēn hairoumenou pasan aretēn. allē dʼ hē apo Platōnos, tou thymikou merous tēs psychēs phaskontos autēn einai aretēn kai apotassontos autę̄ topon ton peri ton thōraka. houtōs dʼ eiē an kata ta diaphora tōn peritemnomenōn dogmata diaphoros hē peritomē, peri hēs en toioutǭ syngrammati ouk anankaion nyn legein; hotǭ gar philon idein ta kinēsanta hēmas eis ton topon, anagnōtō peri autou en tois eis tēn pros Rhōmaious epistolēn Paulou pragmateutheisin hēmin.

The reason for the circumcision of the Jews is not the same as the reason for the circumcision of the Egyptians or the Colchians; so it would not be considered the same circumcision. And just as one who sacrifices does not sacrifice to the same being, even if he seems to sacrifice in the same way, and one who prays does not pray to the same being, even if he asks for the same things in his prayers, so, if someone is circumcised, it is not at all indifferent compared with another's circumcision. For the purpose, the law, and the intent of the one who circumcises make the thing different. To make the subject still more understood, it must be said that the name of justice is the same among all the Greeks; yet it is shown that justice according to Epicurus is one thing, according to the Stoics, who deny that the soul has three parts, another, and according to the Platonists, who say that justice is each part of the soul doing its own work, another. So too Epicurus's courage, who endures pains to escape greater pains, is one thing; that of the Stoic, who chooses every virtue for its own sake, another; and that of the Platonist, who says it is the virtue of the spirited part of the soul and assigns it a place about the chest, another. So too circumcision would differ according to the different doctrines of those circumcised; but there is no need to speak of it now in such a treatise. Whoever wishes to see what moved us on this subject, let him read about it in what we have written on Paul's Letter to the Romans.

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Summary: Jewish circumcision differs from that of Egyptians and Colchians because its purpose and law differ, just as 'justice' and 'courage' mean different things to Epicureans, Stoics, and Platonists.

  • The Platonic definitions are from Plato, Republic 4 (433a–b, 441e–442c). Origen refers to his Commentary on Romans (on Rom 2:25–29).

Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Resp. 4.433a (Plato (works); allusion)

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.47 (Koetschau 2:51–52; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-47).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.48Koetschau 2:52–53

Κἂν σεμνύνωνται τοίνυν Ἰουδαῖοι τῇ περιτομῇ, χωρίσουσιν αὐτὴν οὐ μόνον τῆς Κόλχων καὶ Αἰγυπτίων περιτομῆς ἀλλὰ καὶ τῆς Ἰσμαηλιτῶν Ἀράβων, καίτοι γε ἀπὸ τοῦ προπάτορος αὐτῶν Ἀβραὰμ τοῦ Ἰσμαὴλ γεγενημένου καὶ σὺν ἐκείνῳ περιτεμνομένου. λέγουσι δὲ Ἰουδαῖοι τὴν μὲν ὀκταήμερον περιτομὴν εἶναι τὴν προηγουμένην, τὴν δὲ μὴ τοιαύτην ἐκ περιστάσεως· καὶ τάχα διά τινα πολέμιον τῷ Ἰουδαίων ἔθνει ἄγγελον αὐτὴ ἐτελεῖτο, δυνάμενον μὲν σίνεσθαι τοὺς μὴ περιτεμνομένους αὐτῶν, ἀτονοῦντα δὲ ἐν τοῖς περιτεμνομένοις. ὅπερ φήσει τις δηλοῦσθαι ἐκ τῶν ἐν τῇ Ἐξόδῳ γεγραμμένων, ἐν οἷς ὁ ἄγγελος πρὸ μὲν τῆς περιτομῆς τοῦ Ἐλιάζαρ ἐνεργεῖν ἐδύνατο κατὰ Μωϋσέως, περιτμηθέντος δʼ αὐτοῦ οὐδὲν ἴσχυσε. καὶ τοιαῦτά γε μαθοῦσα ἡ „Σεπφώρα λαβοῦσα ψῆφον περιέτεμε“ τὸ παιδίον ἑαυτῆς, κατὰ μὲν τὰ κοινὰ τῶν ἀντιγράφων λέγειν ἀναγεγραμμένη τό· „ἔστη τὸ αἷμα τῆς περιτομῆς τοῦ παιδίου μου, “ κατὰ δὲ τὸ Ἑβραϊκὸν αὐτό· „νυμφίος αἱμάτων σύ μοι.“ ᾔδει γὰρ τὸν περὶ τοῦ τοιουδὶ ἀγγέλου λόγον, δυναμένου πρὸ τοῦ αἵματος καὶ παυομένου διὰ τὸ τῆς περιτομῆς αἷμα· ἐφʼ ᾧ καὶ ἐλέχθη αὐτῷ τό· „νυμφίος αἱμάτων σύ μοι.“ ἀλλὰ ταῦτα μὲν περιεργότερά πως εἶναι δοκοῦντα καὶ οὐ κατὰ τὴν τῶν πολλῶν ἀκοὴν παρακεκινδυνευμένως ἐπὶ τοσοῦτον λελέχθω, οἷς ἔτι ἓν ὡς Χριστιανῷ πρέπον προσθεὶς ἐπὶ τὰ ἑξῆς μεταβήσομαι. ἐδύνατο γὰρ οὗτος οἶμαι ὁ ἄγγελος κατὰ τῶν μὴ περιτεμνομένων ἀπὸ τοῦ λαοῦ καὶ ἁπαξαπλῶς πάντων τῶν σεβόντων μόνον τὸν δημιουργὸν, καὶ ἐπὶ τοσοῦτόν γε ἐδύνατο, ὅσον οὐκ ἀνειλήφει σῶμα ὁ Ἰησοῦς. ὅτε δʼ ἀνείληφε, καὶ περιετέμνετο τὸ ἐκείνου σῶμα, καθῃρέθη πᾶσα ἡ κατὰ τῶν ἐν τῇ θεοσεβείᾳ ταύτῃ περιτεμνομένων δύναμις αὐτοῦ· ἀφάτῳ γὰρ θειότητι καθεῖλεν ἐκεῖνον ὁ Ἰησοῦς. διὸ τοῖς μαθηταῖς αὐτοῦ ἀπείρηται περιτέμνεσθαι καὶ λέγεται αὐτοῖς· „ὅτι ἐὰν περιτέμνησθε, Χριστὸς οὐδὲν ὑμᾶς ὠφελήσει.“

Kan semnynōntai toinyn Ioudaioi tę̄ peritomę̄, chōrisousin autēn ou monon tēs Kolchōn kai Aigyptiōn peritomēs alla kai tēs Ismaēlitōn Arabōn, kaitoi ge apo tou propatoros autōn Abraam tou Ismaēl gegenēmenou kai syn ekeinǭ peritemnomenou. legousi de Ioudaioi tēn men oktaēmeron peritomēn einai tēn proēgoumenēn, tēn de mē toiautēn ek peristaseōs; kai tacha dia tina polemion tǭ Ioudaiōn ethnei angelon autē eteleito, dynamenon men sinesthai tous mē peritemnomenous autōn, atonounta de en tois peritemnomenois. hoper phēsei tis dēlousthai ek tōn en tę̄ Exodǭ gegrammenōn, en hois ho angelos pro men tēs peritomēs tou Eliazar energein edynato kata Mōÿseōs, peritmēthentos dʼ autou ouden ischyse. kai toiauta ge mathousa hē „Sepphōra labousa psēphon perieteme“ to paidion heautēs, kata men ta koina tōn antigraphōn legein anagegrammenē to; „estē to haima tēs peritomēs tou paidiou mou, “ kata de to Hebraïkon auto; „nymphios haimatōn sy moi.“ ę̄dei gar ton peri tou toioudi angelou logon, dynamenou pro tou haimatos kai pauomenou dia to tēs peritomēs haima; ephʼ hǭ kai elechthē autǭ to; „nymphios haimatōn sy moi.“ alla tauta men periergotera pōs einai dokounta kai ou kata tēn tōn pollōn akoēn parakekindyneumenōs epi tosouton lelechthō, hois eti hen hōs Christianǭ prepon prostheis epi ta hexēs metabēsomai. edynato gar houtos oimai ho angelos kata tōn mē peritemnomenōn apo tou laou kai hapaxaplōs pantōn tōn sebontōn monon ton dēmiourgon, kai epi tosouton ge edynato, hoson ouk aneilēphei sōma ho Iēsous. hote dʼ aneilēphe, kai perietemneto to ekeinou sōma, kathę̄rethē pasa hē kata tōn en tę̄ theosebeią tautę̄ peritemnomenōn dynamis autou; aphatǭ gar theiotēti katheilen ekeinon ho Iēsous. dio tois mathētais autou apeirētai peritemnesthai kai legetai autois; „hoti ean peritemnēsthe, Christos ouden hymas ōphelēsei.“

Even if the Jews pride themselves on circumcision, they will distinguish it not only from the circumcision of the Colchians and Egyptians but also from that of the Ishmaelite Arabs, although Ishmael was born of their forefather Abraham and was circumcised with him. The Jews say that circumcision on the eighth day is the principal one, and that which is not so is from circumstance; and perhaps it was performed because of an angel hostile to the Jewish nation, who was able to harm those of them who were not circumcised but was powerless against those who were circumcised. Someone will say this is shown by what is written in Exodus, where the angel was able to act against Moses before the circumcision of Eliezer, but when he was circumcised had no strength. And having learned such things, "Zipporah took a stone and circumcised" her child; according to the common copies she is recorded to have said, "The blood of my child's circumcision is stanched," but according to the Hebrew itself, "You are a bridegroom of blood to me." For she knew the account of this angel, who had power before the blood and ceased because of the blood of circumcision; for which reason it was said to him: "You are a bridegroom of blood to me." But let these matters, which seem rather curious and not suited to the hearing of the many, be ventured thus far; I will add one thing to them, as befits a Christian, and pass on to what follows. This angel, I think, had power against those of the people who were not circumcised, and in general against all who worship the Creator alone, and had power as long as Jesus had not taken a body. But when he took one, and his body was circumcised, all this angel's power against those circumcised in this religion was destroyed; for Jesus destroyed him by his unspeakable divinity. That is why his disciples are forbidden to be circumcised, and it is said to them: "If you are circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you."

Gen 17:23–26 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 4:24–26 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 2:21 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gal 5:2 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Jewish circumcision on the eighth day differs even from Ishmaelite practice; Origen suggests, from Zipporah's story, that it guarded against a hostile angel whose power Christ destroyed by his own circumcision, so Christians need not be circumcised.

  • The references are Gen 17:23–26, Exod 4:24–26 (LXX and Hebrew readings compared), Luke 2:21, and Gal 5:2. Origen names Moses's son Eliezer (Exod 18:4). He presents the angel explanation as a tentative speculation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misread letters in the digital text): ιπερτομῆς → περιτομῆς.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.48 (Koetschau 2:52–53; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-48).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.49Koetschau 2:53–54

Ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ ἐπὶ τῷ συῶν ἀπέχεσθαι ὡς μεγάλῳ τινὶ Ἰουδαῖοι σεμνύνονται, ἐπὶ δὲ τῷ τὴν καθαρῶν καὶ ἀκαθάρτων ζῴων φύσιν μεμαθηκότες καὶ τὴν τούτου αἰτίαν ἐγνωκέναι καὶ τὸν σῦν ἐν ἀκαθάρτοις τετάχθαι. καὶ ταῦτα δὲ σύμβολά τινων ἦν μέχρι τῆς Ἰησοῦ ἐπιδημίας, μεθʼ ὃν τῷ μαθητῇ αὐτοῦ λέλεκται, μηδέπω νοοῦντι τὸν περὶ τούτων λόγον καὶ φάσκοντι· „οὐδὲν κοινὸν ἢ ἀκάθαρτον εἰσῆλθεν εἰς τὸ στόμα μου, “ τό· „ἃ ὁ θεὸς ἐκαθάρισε σὺ μὴ κοίνου.“ οὔτʼ οὖν πρὸς Ἰουδαίους οὔτε πρὸς ἡμᾶς ἐστι τὸ οὐ μόνον συῶν ἀλλὰ προσέτι αἰγῶν καὶ οἰῶν καὶ βοῶν καὶ ἰχθύων ἀπέχεσθαι τοὺς Αἰγυπτίων ἱερεῖς. ἀλλʼ ἐπεὶ „οὐ τὰ εἰσερχόμενα εἰς τὸ στόμα κοινοῖ τὸν ἄνθρωπον.“ καὶ „βρῶμα ἡμᾶς οὐ παραστήσει τῷ θεῷ, “ οὐ μέγα φρονοῦμεν μὴ ἐσθίοντες οὐδʼ ἀπὸ γαστριμαργίας ἥκομεν ἐπὶ τὸ ἐσθίειν. διόπερ τὸ ὅσον ἐφʼ ἡμῖν οἱ ἀπὸ Πυθαγόρου ἐμψύχων ἀπεχόμενοι χαιρόντων. ὅρα δὲ καὶ τὴν διαφορὰν τοῦ αἰτίου τῆς τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀποχῆς τῶν ἀπὸ τοῦ Πυθαγόρου καὶ τῶν ἐν ἡμῖν ἀσκητῶν. ἐκεῖνοι μὲν γὰρ διὰ τὸν περὶ ψυχῆς μετενσωματουμένης μῦθον ἐμψύχων ἀπέχονται· καὶ τίς φίλον υἱὸν ἀείρας σφάξει ἐπευχόμενος μέγα νήπιος; ἡμεῖς δὲ κἂν τὸ τοιοῦτο πράττωμεν, ποιοῦμεν αὐτὸ, ἐπεὶ ὑπωπιάζομεν „τὸ σῶμα“ καὶ δουλαγωγοῦμεν καὶ βουλόμεθα νεκροῦν „τὰ μέλη τὰ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς. πορνείαν, ἀκαθαρσίαν, ἀσέλγειαν, πάθος, ἐπιθυμίαν κακήν“· καὶ πάντα γε πράττομεν, ἵνα „τὰς πράξεις τοῦ σώματος“ θανατώσωμεν.

Allʼ oude epi tǭ syōn apechesthai hōs megalǭ tini Ioudaioi semnynontai, epi de tǭ tēn katharōn kai akathartōn zǭōn physin memathēkotes kai tēn toutou aitian egnōkenai kai ton syn en akathartois tetachthai. kai tauta de symbola tinōn ēn mechri tēs Iēsou epidēmias, methʼ hon tǭ mathētę̄ autou lelektai, mēdepō noounti ton peri toutōn logon kai phaskonti; „ouden koinon ē akatharton eisēlthen eis to stoma mou, “ to; „ha ho theos ekatharise sy mē koinou.“ outʼ oun pros Ioudaious oute pros hēmas esti to ou monon syōn alla proseti aigōn kai oiōn kai boōn kai ichthyōn apechesthai tous Aigyptiōn hiereis. allʼ epei „ou ta eiserchomena eis to stoma koinoi ton anthrōpon.“ kai „brōma hēmas ou parastēsei tǭ theǭ, “ ou mega phronoumen mē esthiontes oudʼ apo gastrimargias hēkomen epi to esthiein. dioper to hoson ephʼ hēmin hoi apo Pythagorou empsychōn apechomenoi chairontōn. hora de kai tēn diaphoran tou aitiou tēs tōn empsychōn apochēs tōn apo tou Pythagorou kai tōn en hēmin askētōn. ekeinoi men gar dia ton peri psychēs metensōmatoumenēs mython empsychōn apechontai; kai tis philon huion aeiras sphaxei epeuchomenos mega nēpios? hēmeis de kan to toiouto prattōmen, poioumen auto, epei hypōpiazomen „to sōma“ kai doulagōgoumen kai boulometha nekroun „ta melē ta epi tēs gēs. porneian, akatharsian, aselgeian, pathos, epithymian kakēn“; kai panta ge prattomen, hina „tas praxeis tou sōmatos“ thanatōsōmen.

Nor do the Jews pride themselves on abstaining from pigs as something great, but on having learned the nature of clean and unclean animals and known the reason for it, and that the pig is placed among the unclean. These things too were symbols of certain realities until the coming of Jesus; after him it was said to his disciple, who did not yet understand the meaning of these things and said, "Nothing common or unclean has entered my mouth": "What God has cleansed, do not call common." It is nothing, then, either to the Jews or to us, that the priests of the Egyptians abstain not only from pigs but also from goats, sheep, oxen, and fish. But since "it is not what enters the mouth that defiles a man," and "food will not commend us to God," we do not think much of ourselves for not eating, nor do we come to eating out of gluttony. Therefore, as far as we are concerned, let the followers of Pythagoras, who abstain from living things, go their way. And see the difference between the reason for abstaining from living things among the followers of Pythagoras and among the ascetics among us. They abstain from living things because of the myth of the soul's transmigration: "And who, lifting up his dear son, will slay him with a prayer, the great fool?" But we, if we do such a thing, do it because we pommel "the body" and bring it into subjection, and wish to put to death "the members that are on earth: sexual immorality, impurity, licentiousness, passion, evil desire"; and we do everything in order to put to death "the deeds of the body."

Acts 10:14–15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 8:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 9:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:13 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Jewish food laws were symbols until Christ declared all foods clean; Christians, unlike Pythagoreans who fear eating reincarnated kin, abstain from meat only as a discipline to master the body.

  • The quotations are Acts 10:14–15, Matt 15:11, 1 Cor 8:8, Empedocles fragment B137 Diels–Kranz, 1 Cor 9:27, Col 3:5, and Rom 8:13. Here πορνεία is "sexual immorality."

Extrabiblical texts: Empedocles, B137 (Empedocles (fragments); quotation)

Topics: Fasting, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.49 (Koetschau 2:53–54; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-49).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.50Koetschau 2:54–55

Ἔτι δὲ περὶ Ἰουδαίων ἀποφαινόμενος ὁ Κέλσος φησίν· οὐδʼ εὐδοκιμεῖν παρὰ τῷ θεῷ καὶ στέργεσθαι διαφόρως τι τῶν ἄλλων τούτους εἰκὸς, καὶ πέμπεσθαι μόνοις αὐτοῖς ἐκεῖθεν ἀγγέλους, οἷον δή τινα μακάρων χώραν λαχοῦσιν· ὁρῶμεν γὰρ αὐτοὺς καὶ τὴν χώραν τίνων ἠξίωνται. ἐλέγξομεν οὖν καὶ τοῦτο, λέγοντες ὅτι τὸ εὐδοκιμηκέναι τὸ ἔθνος τοῦτο παρὰ θεῷ δηλοῦται καὶ ἐκ τοῦ τὸν ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεὸν καὶ ὑπὸ τῶν ἀλλοτρίων τῆς ἡμετέρας πίστεως Ἑβραίων καλεῖσθαι θεόν. καὶ ὡς εὐδοκιμοῦντές γε ὅσον οὐκ ἐγκατελείποντο, καίτοι γε ὀλίγοι τυγχάνοντες τὸν ἀριθμὸν, διετέλουν φρουρούμενοι ὑπὸ θείας δυνάμεως, ὡς μηδʼ ἐπὶ Ἀλεξάνδρου τοῦ Μακεδόνος παθεῖν τι αὐτοὺς ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ, καίτοι γε μὴ βουληθέντας διά τινας συνθήκας καὶ ὅρκους ἀναλαμβάνειν ὅπλα κατὰ τοῦ Δαρείου. τότε φασὶ καὶ τὸν Ἰουδαίων ἀρχιερέα ἐνδύντα τὴν ἱερατικὴν στολὴν προσκεκυνῆσθαι ὑπὸ τοῦ Ἀλεξάνδρου, φάσκοντος ὦφθαι αὐτῷ τούτῳ τῷ σχήματι † ἑωρακέναι τινὰ, ἐπαγγελλόμενον αὐτῷ „κατὰ τοὺς ὕπνους“ ὑποτάξειν τὴν Ἀσίαν ὅλην. ἡμεῖς οὖν οἱ Χριστιανοί φαμεν τὸ μὲν εὐδοκιμεῖν παρὰ τῷ θεῷ καὶ στέργεσθαι διαφόρως τι τῶν ἄλλων πάνυ ἐκείνοις συμβεβηκέναι, ταύτην δὲ τὴν οἰκονομίαν μεταβεβηκέναι καὶ τὴν χάριν ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς, μεταστήσαντος τὴν ἐν Ἰουδαίοις δύναμιν ἐπὶ τοὺς ἀπὸ τῶν ἐθνῶν πιστεύσαντας (αὐ)τῷ Ἰησοῦ. διὸ πολλὰ βουληθέντες Ῥωμαῖοι κατὰ Χριστιανῶν ἐπὶ τῷ κωλῦσαι αὐτοὺς ἔτι εἶναι οὐ δεδύνηνται· ἦν γὰρ ὑπερμαχοῦσα αὐτῶν θεία χεὶρ καὶ βουλομένη τὸν τοῦ θεοῦ λόγον ἀπὸ μιᾶς τῆς κατὰ τὴν Ἰουδαίαν γῆν γωνίας ἐπισπεῖραι ὅλῳ τῷ γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων.

Eti de peri Ioudaiōn apophainomenos ho Kelsos phēsin; oudʼ eudokimein para tǭ theǭ kai stergesthai diaphorōs ti tōn allōn toutous eikos, kai pempesthai monois autois ekeithen angelous, hoion dē tina makarōn chōran lachousin; horōmen gar autous kai tēn chōran tinōn ēxiōntai. elenxomen oun kai touto, legontes hoti to eudokimēkenai to ethnos touto para theǭ dēloutai kai ek tou ton epi pasi theon kai hypo tōn allotriōn tēs hēmeteras pisteōs Hebraiōn kaleisthai theon. kai hōs eudokimountes ge hoson ouk enkateleiponto, kaitoi ge oligoi tynchanontes ton arithmon, dieteloun phrouroumenoi hypo theias dynameōs, hōs mēdʼ epi Alexandrou tou Makedonos pathein ti autous hypʼ autou, kaitoi ge mē boulēthentas dia tinas synthēkas kai horkous analambanein hopla kata tou Dareiou. tote phasi kai ton Ioudaiōn archierea endynta tēn hieratikēn stolēn proskekynēsthai hypo tou Alexandrou, phaskontos ōphthai autǭ toutǭ tǭ schēmati † heōrakenai tina, epangellomenon autǭ „kata tous hypnous“ hypotaxein tēn Asian holēn. hēmeis oun hoi Christianoi phamen to men eudokimein para tǭ theǭ kai stergesthai diaphorōs ti tōn allōn pany ekeinois symbebēkenai, tautēn de tēn oikonomian metabebēkenai kai tēn charin ephʼ hēmas, metastēsantos tēn en Ioudaiois dynamin epi tous apo tōn ethnōn pisteusantas (au)tǭ Iēsou. dio polla boulēthentes Rhōmaioi kata Christianōn epi tǭ kōlysai autous eti einai ou dedynēntai; ēn gar hypermachousa autōn theia cheir kai boulomenē ton tou theou logon apo mias tēs kata tēn Ioudaian gēn gōnias epispeirai holǭ tǭ genei tōn anthrōpōn.

Still pronouncing on the Jews, Celsus says: "Nor is it likely that they are in favour with God and loved in any way differently from others, and that angels are sent from there to them alone, as though they had been allotted some land of the blessed; for we see what sort of fortune both they and their land have been thought worthy of." We will refute this too, saying that this nation's being in favour with God is shown also by the fact that the God over all is called the God of the Hebrews even by those alien to our faith. And, being in favour, as long as they were not forsaken, although they were few in number, they continued to be guarded by divine power, so that not even in the time of Alexander of Macedon did they suffer anything from him, although, because of certain treaties and oaths, they had refused to take up arms against Darius. They say that at that time the high priest of the Jews, having put on his priestly robe, was even bowed to by Alexander, who said that someone in this very dress had appeared to him and promised him "in his sleep" that he would subdue all Asia. We Christians, then, say that being in favour with God and loved in a way different from others did indeed belong to them; but that this dispensation and the grace have passed over to us, since Jesus transferred the power that was among the Jews to those from the nations who believed in him. That is why the Romans, though they have wished to do much against the Christians to prevent their continuing to exist, have not been able to; for a divine hand was fighting for them, wishing to sow the Word of God from one corner of the land of Judaea among the whole human race.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: The Jews were once favored and protected by God, as Alexander's homage to the high priest shows; that favor has now passed to Christians, whom Rome cannot destroy because God defends them.

  • The story of Alexander and the high priest is told by Josephus, Antiquities 11.329–336. The text is corrupt at the dagger (†): ὦφθαι αὐτῷ ("had appeared to him") is followed by ἑωρακέναι τινὰ ("had seen someone"), probably a doublet or the remnant of a lost phrase; the translation gives the sense, which is clear. The parenthetical (αὐ)τῷ is the editor's supplement.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misspelling in the digital text): δυνάμενως → δυνάμεως.

Extrabiblical texts: Josephus, Ant. 11.329–336 (Josephus (works); allusion)

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.50 (Koetschau 2:54–55; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-50).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.51Koetschau 2:55–56

Ἀλλʼ ἐπεὶ κατὰ τὸ δυνατὸν ἡμῖν λέλεκται πρὸς τὸν Κέλσον κατηγοροῦντα Ἰουδαίων καὶ τοῦ λόγου αὐτῶν τὰ ἐκκείμενα. φέρε τὰ ἑξῆς ἐκθέμενοι παραστήσωμεν ὅτι οὔτε ἀλαζονευόμεθα ἐπαγγελλόμενοι εἰδέναι τὸν μέγαν θεὸν οὔτε γοητείᾳ. ὡς Κέλσος οἴεται. ὑπήχθημεν Μωϋσέως ἢ καὶ αὐτοῦ τοῦ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ, ἀλλʼ ἐπʼ ἀγαθῷ τέλει καὶ τοῦ ἐν Μωϋσεῖ θεοῦ ἀκούομεν καὶ τὸν μαρτυρούμενον ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ θεὸν Ἰησοῦν ὡς υἱὸν θεοῦ παρεδεξάμεθα, τὰ ἄριστα ἐλπίζοντες, ἐπὰν κατὰ τὸν λόγον αὐτοῦ βιώσωμεν. ἑκόντες δʼ ὑπερβησόμεθα εἰπεῖν εἰς ἃ προλαβόντες ἐξεθέμεθα. διδάσκοντες πόθεν ἥκομεν καὶ τίνα ἀρχηγὸν ἔχομεν, καὶ τίς ὁ ἀπὸ τούτου νόμος. κἂν βούληταί γε ἡμᾶς μηδὲν διαφέρειν τῶν τὸν τράγον ἢ τὸν κριὸν ἢ τὸν κροκόδειλον ἢ τὸν βοῦν ἢ τὸν ἵππον ποτάμιον ἢ τὸν κυνοκέφαλον ἢ αἴλουρον σεβόντων Αἰγυπτίων ὁ Κέλσος, αὐτὸς ἂν εἰδείη καὶ εἴ τις αὐτῷ περὶ τούτου ὁμοδοξεῖ. ἡμεῖς δὲ ὅση δύναμις διὰ πολλῶν ἐν τοῖς πρὸ τούτων περὶ τῆς εἰς τὸν Ἰησοῦν ἡμῶν τιμῆς ἀπελογησάμεθα, δεικνύντες ὅτι κρεῖττον εὕρομεν· καὶ μόνοι ἡμεῖς τὸ καθαρῶς καὶ ἀμιγὲς πρὸς τὸ ψεῦδος ἀληθὲς ἐν τῇ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ διδασκαλίᾳ ἀποφαινόμενοι εἶναι οὐχ αὑτοὺς ἀλλὰ τὸν διδάσκαλον συνίσταμεν, ὑπὸ τοῦ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεοῦ διὰ πλειόνων μαρτυρηθέντα καὶ τῶν προφητικῶν ἐν Ἰουδαίοις λόγων καὶ αὐτῆς τῆς ἐναργείας· δείκνυται γὰρ οὐκ ἀθεεὶ τὰ τηλικαῦτα δεδυνημένος.

Allʼ epei kata to dynaton hēmin lelektai pros ton Kelson katēgorounta Ioudaiōn kai tou logou autōn ta ekkeimena. phere ta hexēs ekthemenoi parastēsōmen hoti oute alazoneuometha epangellomenoi eidenai ton megan theon oute goēteią. hōs Kelsos oietai. hypēchthēmen Mōÿseōs ē kai autou tou sōtēros hēmōn Iēsou, allʼ epʼ agathǭ telei kai tou en Mōÿsei theou akouomen kai ton martyroumenon hypʼ autou theon Iēsoun hōs huion theou paredexametha, ta arista elpizontes, epan kata ton logon autou biōsōmen. hekontes dʼ hyperbēsometha eipein eis ha prolabontes exethemetha. didaskontes pothen hēkomen kai tina archēgon echomen, kai tis ho apo toutou nomos. kan boulētai ge hēmas mēden diapherein tōn ton tragon ē ton krion ē ton krokodeilon ē ton boun ē ton hippon potamion ē ton kynokephalon ē ailouron sebontōn Aigyptiōn ho Kelsos, autos an eideiē kai ei tis autǭ peri toutou homodoxei. hēmeis de hosē dynamis dia pollōn en tois pro toutōn peri tēs eis ton Iēsoun hēmōn timēs apelogēsametha, deiknyntes hoti kreitton heuromen; kai monoi hēmeis to katharōs kai amiges pros to pseudos alēthes en tę̄ Iēsou Christou didaskalią apophainomenoi einai ouch hautous alla ton didaskalon synistamen, hypo tou epi pasi theou dia pleionōn martyrēthenta kai tōn prophētikōn en Ioudaiois logōn kai autēs tēs enargeias; deiknytai gar ouk atheei ta tēlikauta dedynēmenos.

But since what was set out has been answered as best we could against Celsus's accusation of the Jews and their doctrine, come, let us set out what follows and show that we are not boasting when we profess to know the great God, nor were we led on, as Celsus thinks, by the sorcery of Moses, or even of our Saviour Jesus himself; but for a good end we both listen to the God who spoke in Moses and have received Jesus, to whom he bears witness as God, as the Son of God, hoping for the best things if we live according to his word. We will willingly pass over saying again what we set out in anticipation, teaching where we have come from, and whom we have as founder, and what law comes from him. And if Celsus wishes us to differ in no way from the Egyptians who revere the goat, or the ram, or the crocodile, or the ox, or the hippopotamus, or the baboon, or the cat, he and anyone who agrees with him about this may know it for themselves. But we, as best we could, have defended at length in what went before our honour toward our Jesus, showing that we have found something better; and we alone, declaring the truth pure and unmixed with falsehood to be in the teaching of Jesus Christ, commend not ourselves but our teacher, who has been attested by the God over all in many ways, both by the prophetic words among the Jews and by the plain evidence itself; for it is shown that he did not accomplish such great things without God.

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Summary: Christians do not boast and were not bewitched; they follow the God who spoke through Moses and honor Jesus, attested by prophecy and by his mighty works, as the Son of God.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.51 (Koetschau 2:55–56; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-51).

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5.52Koetschau 2:56

Ἥν δὲ βουλόμεθα ἐξετάσαι νῦν τοῦ Κέλσου λέξιν οὕτως ἔχει· καὶ δὴ παραλείπομεν ὅσα περὶ τοῦ διδασκάλου διελέγχονται. καὶ δοκείτω τις ὡς ἀληθῶς ἄγγελος. ἧκε δὲ πότερον οὗτος πρῶτος καὶ μόνος, ἢ καὶ ἄλλοι πρότερον; εἰ μὲν φαῖεν ὅτι μόνος, ἐλέγχοιντο ἂν ἐναντία σφίσι ψευδόμενοι. ἐλθεῖν γὰρ καὶ ἄλλους λέγουσι πολλάκις, καὶ ὁμοῦ γε ἑξήκοντα ἢ ἑβδομήκοντα· οὓς δὴ γενέσθαι κακοὺς καὶ κολάζεσθαι δεσμοῖς ὑποβληθέντας ἐν γῇ, ὅθεν καὶ τὰς θερμὰς πηγὰς εἶναι τὰ ἐκείνων δάκρυα. καὶ μὴν καὶ πρὸς τὸν αὐτοῦ τοῦ τοῦδε τάφον ἐλθεῖν ἄγγελον, οἱ μὲν ἕνα, οἱ δὲ δύο, τοὺς ἀποκρινομένους ταῖς γυναιξὶν ὅτι ἀνέστη. ὁ γὰρ τοῦ θεοῦ παῖς, ὡς ἔοικεν, οὐκ ἐδύνατο ἀνοῖξαι τὸν τάφον, ἀλλʼ ἐδεήθη ἄλλου ἀποκινήσοντος τὴν πέτραν. ἔτι μὴν καὶ ὑπὲρ τῆς Μαρίας κυούσης πρὸς τὸν τέκτονα ἧκεν ἄγγελος, καὶ ὑπὲρ τοῦ τὸ βρέφος ἐξαρπάσαντας φυγεῖν ἄλλος ἄγγελος. καὶ τί δεῖ πάντα ἀκριβολογεῖσθαι καὶ τοὺς Μωϋσεῖ τε καὶ ἄλλοις αὐτῶν πεμφθῆναι λεγομένους ἀπαριθμεῖν; εἰ τοίνυν ἐπέμφθησαν καὶ ἄλλοι, δῆλον ὅτι καὶ ὅδε παρὰ τοῦ αὐτοῦ θεοῦ. πλεῖον δέ τι ἀγγέλλειν δοκείτω, φέρε, ὥσπερ πλημμελούντων τι Ἰουδαίων ἢ παραχαραττόντων τὴν εὐσέβειαν ἢ οὐχ ὅσια δρώντων· ταῦτα γὰρ αἰνίττονται.

Hēn de boulometha exetasai nyn tou Kelsou lexin houtōs echei; kai dē paraleipomen hosa peri tou didaskalou dielenchontai. kai dokeitō tis hōs alēthōs angelos. hēke de poteron houtos prōtos kai monos, ē kai alloi proteron? ei men phaien hoti monos, elenchointo an enantia sphisi pseudomenoi. elthein gar kai allous legousi pollakis, kai homou ge hexēkonta ē hebdomēkonta; hous dē genesthai kakous kai kolazesthai desmois hypoblēthentas en gę̄, hothen kai tas thermas pēgas einai ta ekeinōn dakrya. kai mēn kai pros ton autou tou toude taphon elthein angelon, hoi men hena, hoi de dyo, tous apokrinomenous tais gynaixin hoti anestē. ho gar tou theou pais, hōs eoiken, ouk edynato anoixai ton taphon, allʼ edeēthē allou apokinēsontos tēn petran. eti mēn kai hyper tēs Marias kyousēs pros ton tektona hēken angelos, kai hyper tou to brephos exarpasantas phygein allos angelos. kai ti dei panta akribologeisthai kai tous Mōÿsei te kai allois autōn pemphthēnai legomenous aparithmein? ei toinyn epemphthēsan kai alloi, dēlon hoti kai hode para tou autou theou. pleion de ti angellein dokeitō, phere, hōsper plēmmelountōn ti Ioudaiōn ē paracharattontōn tēn eusebeian ē ouch hosia drōntōn; tauta gar ainittontai.

The passage of Celsus that we now wish to examine runs thus: "Let us pass over, then, the arguments by which they are refuted about their teacher; and let him be regarded as truly an angel. Did he come first and alone, or did others come before? If they said that he alone came, they would be convicted of lying and contradicting themselves. For they say that others too came often, and indeed sixty or seventy together, who became wicked and are punished, being cast in chains under the earth, whence also the hot springs are their tears. And moreover an angel came to this man's own tomb (some say one, others two) who answered the women that he had risen. For the child of God, it seems, could not open the tomb, but needed another to roll away the rock. And again, about Mary's pregnancy an angel came to the carpenter, and another angel so that they might snatch up the infant and flee. And why need I go through everything in detail, and count up those said to have been sent to Moses and others among them? If, then, others too were sent, it is clear that this one also came from the same God. But let him be regarded as announcing something more, as though the Jews were doing wrong, or debasing piety, or not doing holy things; for this is what they hint."

Matt 28:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 16:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 24:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 20:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 1:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 2:13 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Celsus asks whether Jesus, granted to be an angel, was the first or one of many, citing the fallen angels of Enoch, the angels at the tomb, and those who appeared to Joseph.

  • Celsus alludes to the fallen Watchers of 1 En. 6–10 (the hot springs, cf. 1 En. 67), to the angels at the tomb (Matt 28:2; Mark 16:5; Luke 24:4; John 20:12), and to Matt 1:20 and 2:13.

Extrabiblical texts: 1 En. 6–10 (1 Enoch [in the ETH canon]; allusion)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.52 (Koetschau 2:56; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-52).

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5.53Koetschau 2:56–57

Ἤρκει μὲν οὖν τὰ προειρημένα ἐν τοῖς ἰδίᾳ περὶ τοῦ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ ἐξετασθεῖσι πρὸς τὰς Κέλσου λέξεις· ἵνα δὲ μὴ δοκῶμεν τόπον τινὰ αὐτοῦ τῆς γραφῆς ὑπερβαίνειν ἑκόντες ὡς μὴ δεδυνημένοι λέγειν πρὸς αὐτὸν, φέρε, εἰ καὶ ταυτολογεῖν μέλλομεν, ἐπὶ τοῦτο ἡμᾶς τοῦ Κέλσου προκαλουμένου, ὅση δύναμις ἐπιτεμώμεθα τὸν λόγον, ἐὰν ἄρα τι ὑποπέσῃ περὶ τῶν αὐτῶν ἢ ἐναργέστερον ἢ καινότερον. φησὶ δὴ παραλιπεῖν ὅσα περὶ τοῦ διδασκάλου Χριστιανοὶ διελέγχονται, οὐ παραλιπών (τι) ὧν ἐδύνατο λέγειν· ὅπερ ἐστὶ φανερὸν ἐκ τῶν ἀνωτέρω αὐτῷ λελεγμένων· ἄλλως δὲ ῥητορικῇ ἐγχειρήσει κατακολουθῶν τὸ τοιοῦτο ποιεῖ. ἀλλὰ καὶ ὅτι οὐ διελεγχόμεθα περὶ τοῦ τηλικούτου σωτῆρος ἡμῶν, κἂν δοκῇ ὁ ἐγκαλῶν διελέγχειν, δῆλον ἔσται τοῖς φιλαλήθως καὶ ἐξεταστικῶς ὅλοις τοῖς περὶ αὐτοῦ προφητευομένοις καὶ ἀναγεγραμμένοις ἐντυγχάνουσιν. ἑξῆς δὲ, ἐπεὶ νομίζεται συγχωρητικῶς λέγειν περὶ τοῦ σωτῆρος ὅτι δοκείτω τις ὡς ἀληθῶς ἄγγελος οὗτος εἶναι, φαμὲν ὅτι τοῦτʼ οὐχ ὡς συγχωρούμενον ἀπὸ Κέλσου λαμβάνομεν, τῷ δʼ ἔργῳ αὐτοῦ ἐνορῶντες ὅλῳ τῷ γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἐπιδεδημηκότος κατὰ τὸν ἑαυτοῦ λόγον καὶ τὴν διδασκαλίαν, ὡς ἕκαστος ἐχώρει τῶν προσιεμένων αὐτόν. ὅπερ ἔργον ἦν τοῦ, ὡς ὠνόμασεν ἡ περὶ αὐτοῦ προφητεία, οὐχ ἁπαξαπλῶς ἀγγέλου ἀλλὰ τοῦ τῆς „μεγάλης βουλῆς“ ἀγγέλου· ἤγγελλε γὰρ ἀνθρώποις τὴν μεγάλην τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ πατρὸς τῶν ὅλων περὶ αὐτῶν βουλὴν, εἰκόντων μὲν τῷ βιοῦν ἐν καθαρᾷ θεοσεβείᾳ ὡς ἀναβαινόντων διὰ τῶν μεγάλων πράξεων πρὸς τὸν θεὸν, μὴ προσιεμένων δὲ ὡς ἑαυτοὺς μακρυνόντων ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ἀπώλειαν διὰ τῆς περὶ θεοῦ ἀπιστίας ὁδευόντων. εἶθʼ ἑξῆς φησιν· εἰ καὶ ἄγγελος οὗτος πρὸς ἀνθρώπους ἦλθεν. ἆρα πρῶτος ἧκε καὶ μόνος, ἤ καὶ ἄλλοι πρότερον; καὶ πρὸς ἑκάτερον δὲ διὰ πλειόνων οἴεται ἀπαντᾶν, οὐδενὸς δὴ τῶν ὡς ἀληθῶς Χριστιανῶν λέγοντος μόνον τὸν Χριστὸν ἐπιδεδημηκέναι τῷ (γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων·) καὶ ἄλλους ὦφθαί φησιν ἀνθρώποις ὁ Κέλσος, εἰ μὲν δὴ φαῖεν ὅτι μόνος.

Ērkei men oun ta proeirēmena en tois idią peri tou sōtēros hēmōn Iēsou Christou exetastheisi pros tas Kelsou lexeis; hina de mē dokōmen topon tina autou tēs graphēs hyperbainein hekontes hōs mē dedynēmenoi legein pros auton, phere, ei kai tautologein mellomen, epi touto hēmas tou Kelsou prokaloumenou, hosē dynamis epitemōmetha ton logon, ean ara ti hypopesę̄ peri tōn autōn ē enargesteron ē kainoteron. phēsi dē paralipein hosa peri tou didaskalou Christianoi dielenchontai, ou paralipōn (ti) hōn edynato legein; hoper esti phaneron ek tōn anōterō autǭ lelegmenōn; allōs de rhētorikę̄ encheirēsei katakolouthōn to toiouto poiei. alla kai hoti ou dielenchometha peri tou tēlikoutou sōtēros hēmōn, kan dokę̄ ho enkalōn dielenchein, dēlon estai tois philalēthōs kai exetastikōs holois tois peri autou prophēteuomenois kai anagegrammenois entynchanousin. hexēs de, epei nomizetai synchōrētikōs legein peri tou sōtēros hoti dokeitō tis hōs alēthōs angelos houtos einai, phamen hoti toutʼ ouch hōs synchōroumenon apo Kelsou lambanomen, tǭ dʼ ergǭ autou enorōntes holǭ tǭ genei tōn anthrōpōn epidedēmēkotos kata ton heautou logon kai tēn didaskalian, hōs hekastos echōrei tōn prosiemenōn auton. hoper ergon ēn tou, hōs ōnomasen hē peri autou prophēteia, ouch hapaxaplōs angelou alla tou tēs „megalēs boulēs“ angelou; ēngelle gar anthrōpois tēn megalēn tou theou kai patros tōn holōn peri autōn boulēn, eikontōn men tǭ bioun en katharą theosebeią hōs anabainontōn dia tōn megalōn praxeōn pros ton theon, mē prosiemenōn de hōs heautous makrynontōn apo tou theou kai epi tēn apōleian dia tēs peri theou apistias hodeuontōn. eithʼ hexēs phēsin; ei kai angelos houtos pros anthrōpous ēlthen. ara prōtos hēke kai monos, ē kai alloi proteron? kai pros hekateron de dia pleionōn oietai apantan, oudenos dē tōn hōs alēthōs Christianōn legontos monon ton Christon epidedēmēkenai tǭ (genei tōn anthrōpōn;) kai allous ōphthai phēsin anthrōpois ho Kelsos, ei men dē phaien hoti monos.

What was said earlier, in our separate examination of Celsus's words about our Saviour Jesus Christ, would suffice; but so that we may not seem to pass over any part of his writing deliberately, as though unable to answer him, come, even if we are going to repeat ourselves, since Celsus challenges us to it, let us cut the discussion as short as we can, in case something clearer or newer on the same subjects occurs to us. He says that he passes over the arguments by which Christians are refuted about their teacher, though he has passed over nothing he could say, as is evident from what he said above; he does this simply following a rhetorical device. But that we are not refuted about so great a Saviour of ours, even if the accuser seems to refute us, will be clear to those who read, with love of truth and careful examination, all that has been prophesied and recorded about him. Next, since he is thought to speak by way of concession about the Saviour, "let him be regarded as truly an angel," we say that we do not accept this as conceded by Celsus, but look to the work of the one who came to the whole human race according to his own word and teaching, as each of those who received him could contain it. This was the work of one who, as the prophecy about him named him, is not simply an angel but the angel "of great counsel"; for he announced to human beings the great counsel of God, the Father of the universe, concerning them: of those who yield to live in pure worship of God, as ascending to God through great deeds, and of those who do not receive it, as putting themselves far from God and travelling toward destruction through unbelief concerning God. Then he says next: "If this one too came to human beings as an angel, did he come first and alone, or did others come before?" And he thinks he answers both alternatives at length, though no true Christian says that Christ alone came to the human race; and Celsus says that others too appeared to human beings, "if they said that he alone came."

Isa 9:6 (9:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Origen will answer briefly: Christ is not merely an angel but, as Isaiah says, the 'angel of great counsel' who announced God's plan for humanity, and no Christian claims he was the only messenger ever sent.

  • The title is Isa 9:6 (9:5 LXX: μεγάλης βουλῆς ἄγγελος). The parentheses (τι) and (γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων·) are the editor's supplements.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing breathing and accent in the digital text): σωτῆρος οτι δοκείτω → σωτῆρος ὅτι δοκείτω.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.53 (Koetschau 2:56–57; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-53).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.54Koetschau 2:57–58

Εἶτʼ ἀπαντᾷ ἑαυτῷ, ὡς βούλεται· οὕτω δʼ οὐ μόνος ἱστόρηται ἐπιδεδημηκέναι τῷ γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων. ὡς καὶ τοὺς προφάσει τῆς διδασκαλίας τοῦ ὀνόματος Ἰησοῦ ἀποστάντας τοῦ δημιουργοῦ ὡς ἐλάττονος καὶ προσεληλυθότας ὡς κρείττονί τινι θεῷ καὶ πατρὶ τοῦ ἐπιδημήσαντος φάσκειν ὅτι καὶ πρὸ τούτου ἐπεδήμησάν τινες ἀπὸ τοῦ δημιουργοῦ τῷ γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων. ἐπεὶ δὲ φιλαλήθως τὰ κατὰ τὸν τόπον ἐξετάζομεν, φήσομεν ὅτι ὁ Μαρκίωνος γνώριμος Ἀπελλῆς, αἱρέσεώς τινος γενόμενος πατὴρ καὶ μῦθον ἡγούμενος εἶναι τὰ Ἰουδαίων γράμματα. φησὶν ὅτι μόνος οὗτος ἐπιδεδήμηκε τῷ γένει τῶν ἀνθρώπων. οὐδὲ πρὸς ἐκεῖνον οὖν, λέγοντα μόνον ἐπιδεδημηκέναι τὸν Ἰησοῦν ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, εὐλόγως ἂν ὁ Κέλσος φέροι τὰ περὶ τοῦ καὶ ἄλλους ἐληλυθέναι, ἀπιστοῦντα. ὡς προείπομεν, ταῖς παραδοξότερα ἀπαγγελλούσαις Ἰουδαίων γραφαῖς· πολλῷ δὲ πλέον οὐ προσήσεται ἅπερ ἔοικε παρακούσας ἀπὸ τῶν ἐν τῷ Ἐνὼχ γεγραμμένων τεθεικέναι ὁ Κέλσος. οὐδεὶς τοίνυν ἐλέγχει ἡμᾶς ψευδομένους καὶ τὰ ἐναντία τιθέντας, ὅτι τε μόνος ἦλθεν ὁ σωτὴρ ἡμῶν καὶ ὅτι, ἐπεὶ ἄλλοι πολλοὶ πολλάκις ἐληλύθασι. πάνυ δὲ συγκεχυμένως ἐν τῇ περὶ τῶν ἐληλυθότων πρὸς ἀνθρώπους ἀγγέλων ἐξετάσει τίθησι τὰ ἀτρανώτως ἐλθόντα εἰς αὐτὸν ἀπὸ τῶν ἐν τῷ Ἐνὼχ γεγραμμένων· ἅτινα οὐδʼ αὐτὰ φαίνεται ἀναγνοὺς οὐδὲ γνωρίσας ὅτι ἐν ταῖς ἐκκλησίαις οὐ πάνυ φέρεται ὡς θεῖα τὰ ἐπιγεγραμμένα τοῦ Ἐνὼχ βιβλία· ὅθεν νομισθείη ἂν ἐῤῥιφέναι τὸ ὁμοῦ ἑξήκοντα ἢ ἑβδομήκοντα καταβεβηκέναι, κακοὺς γενομένους.

Eitʼ apantą heautǭ, hōs bouletai; houtō dʼ ou monos historētai epidedēmēkenai tǭ genei tōn anthrōpōn. hōs kai tous prophasei tēs didaskalias tou onomatos Iēsou apostantas tou dēmiourgou hōs elattonos kai proselēlythotas hōs kreittoni tini theǭ kai patri tou epidēmēsantos phaskein hoti kai pro toutou epedēmēsan tines apo tou dēmiourgou tǭ genei tōn anthrōpōn. epei de philalēthōs ta kata ton topon exetazomen, phēsomen hoti ho Markiōnos gnōrimos Apellēs, haireseōs tinos genomenos patēr kai mython hēgoumenos einai ta Ioudaiōn grammata. phēsin hoti monos houtos epidedēmēke tǭ genei tōn anthrōpōn. oude pros ekeinon oun, legonta monon epidedēmēkenai ton Iēsoun apo tou theou tois anthrōpois, eulogōs an ho Kelsos pheroi ta peri tou kai allous elēlythenai, apistounta. hōs proeipomen, tais paradoxotera apangellousais Ioudaiōn graphais; pollǭ de pleon ou prosēsetai haper eoike parakousas apo tōn en tǭ Enōch gegrammenōn tetheikenai ho Kelsos. oudeis toinyn elenchei hēmas pseudomenous kai ta enantia tithentas, hoti te monos ēlthen ho sōtēr hēmōn kai hoti, epei alloi polloi pollakis elēlythasi. pany de synkechymenōs en tę̄ peri tōn elēlythotōn pros anthrōpous angelōn exetasei tithēsi ta atranōtōs elthonta eis auton apo tōn en tǭ Enōch gegrammenōn; hatina oudʼ auta phainetai anagnous oude gnōrisas hoti en tais ekklēsiais ou pany pheretai hōs theia ta epigegrammena tou Enōch biblia; hothen nomistheiē an errhiphenai to homou hexēkonta ē hebdomēkonta katabebēkenai, kakous genomenous.

Then he answers himself as he wishes; yet he is not reported to have come to the human race alone, so that even those who, on the pretext of the teaching of the name of Jesus, have departed from the Creator as an inferior being and gone over to some supposedly higher God, Father of the one who came, say that even before him some came to the human race from the Creator. But since we examine the subject with love of truth, we will say that Apelles, the pupil of Marcion, who became the father of a certain heresy and considered the writings of the Jews a myth, says that this one alone came to the human race. Not even against him, then, who says that Jesus alone came to human beings from God, could Celsus reasonably bring the claim that others too have come, since Apelles, as we said before, disbelieves the Jewish Scriptures that tell of more marvellous things; and much less will he accept what Celsus seems to have set down having misheard it from what is written in Enoch. No one, then, convicts us of lying and contradicting ourselves, both that our Saviour alone came and that many others have often come. And in examining the angels who have come to human beings, Celsus sets down, very confusedly, what came to him indistinctly from what is written in Enoch; he does not seem to have read these writings himself, nor to know that the books inscribed with the name of Enoch are not at all accepted as divine in the churches. Hence he might be thought to have thrown out the "sixty or seventy together" who came down and became wicked.

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Summary: Only heretics like Apelles, Marcion's pupil, say Jesus alone came from God; Celsus garbled his story of the fallen angels from the Book of Enoch, which the churches do not accept as divine Scripture.

  • Apelles (2nd c.) was a disciple of Marcion who founded his own school (αἵρεσις, here "heresy"). On 1 Enoch, see 1 En. 6–10; Origen notes that the churches do not generally receive it as Scripture.

Extrabiblical texts: 1 En. 6–10 (1 Enoch [in the ETH canon]; allusion)

Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.54 (Koetschau 2:57–58; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-54).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.55Koetschau 2:58–59

Ἀλλʼ ἵνα καὶ εὐγνωμονέστερον αὐτῷ δῶμεν ἃ μὴ ἑώρακεν ἀπὸ τῶν ἐν τῇ Γενέσει γεγραμμένων. ὅτι „ἰδόντες οἱ υἱοὶ τοῦ θεοῦ τὰς θυγατέρας τῶν ἀνθρώπων ὅτι καλαί εἰσιν, ἔλαβον ἑαυτοῖς γυναῖκας ἀπὸ πασῶν ὧν ἐξελέξαντο“· οὐδὲν ἧττον καὶ περὶ τούτων τοῖς δυναμένοις ἀκούειν προφητικοῦ βουλήματος πείσομεν ὅτι καὶ τῶν πρὸ ἡμῶν τις ταῦτα ἀνήγαγεν εἰς τὸν περὶ ψυχῶν λόγον, ἐν ἐπιθυμίᾳ γενομένων τοῦ ἐν σώματι ἀνθρώπων βίου. ἅπερ τροπολογῶν ἔφασκε λελέχθαι „θυγατέρας ἀνθρώπων.“ πλὴν ὅπως ποτʼ ἂν ἔχῃ καὶ τὰ περὶ τοὺς ἐπιθυμήσαντας θυγατέρων ἀνθρώπων υἱοὺς θεῶν, οὐδὲν αὐτῷ συμβάλλεται ὁ λόγος πρὸς τὸ μὴ μόνον τὸν Ἰησοῦν ὡς ἄγγελον ἐπιδεδημηκέναι τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, σωτῆρα καὶ εὐεργέτην ἐναργῶς πάντων τῶν μεταβαλλόντων ἀπὸ τῆς χύσεως τῆς κακίας γεγενημένον. εἶτα φύρων καὶ συγχέων ἃ ὅπως ποτὲ ἤκουσε καὶ τὰ ὅπου ποτʼ οὖν γεγραμμένα, εἴτε δεδογμένα θεῖα εἶναι παρὰ Χριστιανοῖς εἴτε καὶ μὴ, φησὶ τοὺς ὁμοῦ καταβεβηκότας ἑξήκοντα ἢ ἑβδομήκοντα κολάζεσθαι δεσμοῖς ὑποβληθέντας ἐν γῇ. καὶ φέρει ὡς ἀπὸ τοῦ Ἐνὼχ, οὐκ ὀνομάζων αὐτὸν, τό· ὅθεν καὶ τὰς θερμὰς πηγὰς εἶναι τὰ ἐκείνων δάκρυα, πρᾶγμα οὔτε λεγόμενον οὔτʼ ἀκουόμενον ἐν ταῖς ἐκκλησίαις τοῦ θεοῦ. οὐδὲ γὰρ ἀνόητος οὕτως τις ἦν. ἵνα σωματοποιήσῃ δάκρυα παραπλήσια τοῖς τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἐν τοῖς καταβεβηκόσιν ἐξ οὐρανοῦ ἀγγέλοις. καὶ εἰ χρή γε παίζειν πρὸς τὰ καθʼ ἡμῶν σπουδαζόμενα τῷ Κέλσῳ, λεκτέον ὅτι οὐκ ἄν τις εἶπε τὰς θερμὰς πηγὰς, ὧν αἱ πλεῖσται γλυκεῖαί εἰσι, δάκρυα εἶναι τῶν ἀγγέλων, ἐπεὶ ἡ φύσις τῶν δακρύων ἐστὶν ἁλμυρά· εἰ μὴ ἄρα οἱ κατὰ τὸν Κέλσον ἄγγελοι γλυκέα δακρύουσιν.

Allʼ hina kai eugnōmonesteron autǭ dōmen ha mē heōraken apo tōn en tę̄ Genesei gegrammenōn. hoti „idontes hoi huioi tou theou tas thygateras tōn anthrōpōn hoti kalai eisin, elabon heautois gynaikas apo pasōn hōn exelexanto“; ouden hētton kai peri toutōn tois dynamenois akouein prophētikou boulēmatos peisomen hoti kai tōn pro hēmōn tis tauta anēgagen eis ton peri psychōn logon, en epithymią genomenōn tou en sōmati anthrōpōn biou. haper tropologōn ephaske lelechthai „thygateras anthrōpōn.“ plēn hopōs potʼ an echę̄ kai ta peri tous epithymēsantas thygaterōn anthrōpōn huious theōn, ouden autǭ symballetai ho logos pros to mē monon ton Iēsoun hōs angelon epidedēmēkenai tois anthrōpois, sōtēra kai euergetēn enargōs pantōn tōn metaballontōn apo tēs chyseōs tēs kakias gegenēmenon. eita phyrōn kai syncheōn ha hopōs pote ēkouse kai ta hopou potʼ oun gegrammena, eite dedogmena theia einai para Christianois eite kai mē, phēsi tous homou katabebēkotas hexēkonta ē hebdomēkonta kolazesthai desmois hypoblēthentas en gę̄. kai pherei hōs apo tou Enōch, ouk onomazōn auton, to; hothen kai tas thermas pēgas einai ta ekeinōn dakrya, pragma oute legomenon outʼ akouomenon en tais ekklēsiais tou theou. oude gar anoētos houtōs tis ēn. hina sōmatopoiēsę̄ dakrya paraplēsia tois tōn anthrōpōn en tois katabebēkosin ex ouranou angelois. kai ei chrē ge paizein pros ta kathʼ hēmōn spoudazomena tǭ Kelsǭ, lekteon hoti ouk an tis eipe tas thermas pēgas, hōn hai pleistai glykeiai eisi, dakrya einai tōn angelōn, epei hē physis tōn dakryōn estin halmyra; ei mē ara hoi kata ton Kelson angeloi glykea dakryousin.

But, to grant him more generously what he did not see in what is written in Genesis, that "the sons of God, seeing the daughters of men that they were beautiful, took for themselves wives from all whom they chose," we will nonetheless persuade those able to hear the prophetic intent on this subject too that one of those before us referred these words to the doctrine of souls that came to desire life in a human body, which, he said, is figuratively called "daughters of men." However things stand concerning the sons of God who desired the daughters of men, the account contributes nothing to Celsus's claim that Jesus was not the only one who came to human beings as an angel, having clearly become the Saviour and benefactor of all who turn from the flood of vice. Then, mixing and confusing whatever he heard in whatever way, and what is written wherever it may be, whether considered divine among Christians or not, he says that the sixty or seventy who came down together are punished, being cast in chains under the earth. And he brings in, as from Enoch, without naming him: "whence also the hot springs are their tears," a thing neither said nor heard in the churches of God. For no one was so foolish as to give bodily form to tears like those of human beings in the angels who came down from heaven. And if we may jest in reply to what Celsus earnestly urges against us, it must be said that no one would have said that hot springs, most of which are fresh, are the tears of angels, since the nature of tears is salty; unless perhaps Celsus's angels weep fresh tears.

Gen 6:2 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Origen mentions an earlier interpreter who read the 'sons of God' and 'daughters of men' of Genesis 6 as souls desiring bodies, and mocks Celsus's claim that hot springs are fallen angels' tears, since tears are salty.

  • The quotation is Gen 6:2. "One of those before us" is unidentified (possibly Philo, On the Giants 6–18). The hot-springs detail is attributed to Enoch (cf. 1 En. 67). The stray raised dot in the digital text before ἐν σώματι is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray punctuation in the digital text): γενομένων τοῦ· ἐν σώματι → γενομένων τοῦ ἐν σώματι.

Extrabiblical texts: 1 En. 67 (1 Enoch [in the ETH canon]; allusion)

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.55 (Koetschau 2:58–59; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-55).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.56Koetschau 2:59–60

Εἶτα ἑξῆς τὰ ἄμικτα καὶ ἀνόμοια μιγνὺς καὶ ἐξομοιῶν ἀλλήλοις ἐπιφέρει τῷ περὶ τῶν, ὥς φησι, καταβεβηκότων ἑξήκοντα ἢ ἑβδομήκοντα ἀγγέλων λόγῳ. πηγὰς θερμῶν κατὰ αὐτὸν δακρυσάντων, ὅτι καὶ πρὸς αὐτοῦ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ τὸν τάφον ἱστόρηνται ἐληλυθέναι ὑπό τινων μὲν ἄγγελοι δύο ὑπό τινων δὲ εἷς· οὐκ οἶμαι τηρήσας Ματθαῖον μὲν καὶ Μάρκον ἕνα ἱστορηκέναι, Λουκᾶν δὲ καὶ Ἰωάννην δύο. ἅπερ οὐκ ἦν ἐναντία. οἱ μὲν γὰρ ἀναγράφαντες ἕνα τὸν ἀποκυλίσαντα „τὸν λίθον“ ἀπὸ τοῦ μνημείου τοῦτόν φασιν εἶναι, οἱ δὲ τοὺς δύο τοὺς ἐπιστάντας „ἐν ἐσθῆτι ἀστραπτούσῃ“ ταῖς γενομέναις ἐπὶ τὸ μνημεῖον γυναιξὶν ἢ τοὺς θεωρηθέντας ἔνδον „ἐν λευκοῖς καθεζομένους.“ ἕκαστον δὲ τούτων νῦν παραδεικνύναι δυνατὸν καὶ γεγενημένον καὶ δηλωτικόν τινος εἶναι τροπολογίας, τῆς περὶ τῶν προφαινομένων τοῖς τὴν ἀνάστασιν τοῦ λόγου θεωρεῖν παρεσκευασμένοις, οὐ τῆς παρούσης ἐστὶ πραγματείας ἀλλὰ μᾶλλον τῶν τοῦ εὐαγγελίου ἐξηγητικῶν.

Eita hexēs ta amikta kai anomoia mignys kai exomoiōn allēlois epipherei tǭ peri tōn, hōs phēsi, katabebēkotōn hexēkonta ē hebdomēkonta angelōn logǭ. pēgas thermōn kata auton dakrysantōn, hoti kai pros autou tou Iēsou ton taphon historēntai elēlythenai hypo tinōn men angeloi dyo hypo tinōn de heis; ouk oimai tērēsas Matthaion men kai Markon hena historēkenai, Loukan de kai Iōannēn dyo. haper ouk ēn enantia. hoi men gar anagraphantes hena ton apokylisanta „ton lithon“ apo tou mnēmeiou touton phasin einai, hoi de tous dyo tous epistantas „en esthēti astraptousę̄“ tais genomenais epi to mnēmeion gynaixin ē tous theōrēthentas endon „en leukois kathezomenous.“ hekaston de toutōn nyn paradeiknynai dynaton kai gegenēmenon kai dēlōtikon tinos einai tropologias, tēs peri tōn prophainomenōn tois tēn anastasin tou logou theōrein pareskeuasmenois, ou tēs parousēs esti pragmateias alla mallon tōn tou euangeliou exēgētikōn.

Then, next, mixing and likening things that cannot be mixed and are unlike, he adds to his account of the sixty or seventy angels who, as he says, came down and wept hot springs, as he would have it, that some report two angels and some one as having come to the tomb of Jesus himself. He did not observe, I think, that Matthew and Mark reported one, and Luke and John two; which are not contradictory. For those who recorded one say that this is the one who rolled away "the stone" from the tomb; the others speak of the two who stood by the women who came to the tomb "in dazzling clothing," or who were seen inside "sitting in white." To show now that each of these both happened and indicates some figurative meaning, concerning what appears to those prepared to contemplate the resurrection of the Word, belongs not to the present treatise but rather to commentaries on the Gospel.

Matt 28:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 16:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:12 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: The Gospels' one angel and two angels at Jesus' tomb do not contradict each other, since they describe different moments; their deeper meaning belongs to commentary on the Gospels.

  • The references are Matt 28:2, Mark 16:5, Luke 24:4, and John 20:12.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.56 (Koetschau 2:59–60; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-56).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.57Koetschau 2:60–61

Παράδοξα δὲ πράγματα τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἐπιφαίνεσθαί ποτε καὶ τῶν Ἑλλήνων ἱστόρησαν οὐ μόνον οἱ ὑπονοηθέντες ἂν ὡς μυθοποιοῦντες ἀλλὰ καὶ (οἱ) οἷον πολὺ ἐπιδειξάμενοι γνησίως φιλοσοφεῖν καὶ φιλαλήθως ἐκτίθεσθαι τὰ εἰς αὐτοὺς φθάσαντα. τοιαῦτα δʼ ἀνέγνωμεν παρὰ τῷ Σολεῖ Χρυσίππῳ, τινὰ δὲ παρὰ Πυθαγόρᾳ, ἤδη δὲ καὶ παρά τισι τῶν νεωτέρων καὶ χθὲς καὶ πρώην γεγενημένων, ὥσπερ παρὰ τῷ Χαιρωνεῖ Πλουτάρχῳ ἐν τοῖς περὶ ψυχῆς καὶ τῷ Πυθαγορείῳ Νουμηνίῳ ἐν τῷ δευτέρῳ περὶ ἀφθαρσίας ψυχῆς. ἢ Ἕλληνες μὲν ἐὰν τοιαῦτα διηγῶνται καὶ μάλιστα οἱ ἐν αὐτοῖς φιλοσοφοῦντες, οὐ χλεύη οὐδὲ γέλως τὰ λεγόμενα οὐδὲ πλάσματα καὶ μῦθοί εἰσιν, ἐὰν δʼ οἱ τῷ θεῷ τῶν ὅλων ἀνακείμενοι καὶ ὑπὲρ τοῦ μηδὲ μέχρι φωνῆς ψεῦδος εἰπεῖν περὶ τοῦ θεοῦ πᾶσαν αἰκίαν μέχρι θανάτου ἀναδεχόμενοι ὡς ἰδόντες ἀπαγγέλλωσιν ἀγγέλων ἐπιφανείας, οὐκ ἄξιοι τοῦ πιστεύεσθαι κρίνονται οὐδὲ οἱ λόγοι αὐτῶν ἐν ἀληθέσι κατατάττονται; ἀλλʼ οὐκ εὔλογον οὕτω κρίνειν τὰ περὶ ἀληθευόντων ἢ ψευδομένων. οἱ γὰρ τὸ ἀνεξαπάτητον ἀσκοῦντες μετὰ πολλῆς καὶ ἀκριβοῦς ἐρεύνης καὶ ἐξετάσεως τῶν κατὰ τοὺς τόπους βράδιον καὶ ἀσφαλῶς ἀποφαίνονται περὶ τοῦ τοὺς τοιουσδὶ μὲν ἀληθεύειν τοὺς τοιουσδὶ δὲ ψεύδεσθαι ἐν οἷς ἱστοροῦσι παραδόξοις, οὔτε πάντων τὸ τοῦ πιστεύεσθαι ἄξιον ἐπιδεικνυμένων οὔτε πάντων [τῶν] ἐναργῶς ἀποδεικνυμένων πλάσματα καὶ μύθους τοῖς ἀνθρώποις παραδεδωκέναι. ἔτι δὲ περὶ τῆς τοῦ Ἰησοῦ ἐκ νεκρῶν ἀναστάσεως καὶ ταῦτα λεκτέον, ὅτι τότε μὲν ἕνα ἢ δεύτερον ὦφθαι ἄγγελον, ἀγγέλλοντα αὐτὸν ἐγηγέρθαι καὶ προνοεῖσθαι τῶν ἐπὶ ὠφελείᾳ ἑαυτῶν περὶ τοῦ τοιούτου πιστευόντων, οὐ θαυμαστόν· ἀεὶ δὲ τοὺς τοιούτους τῷ ἐγηγέρθαι τὸν Ἰησοῦν πιστεύοντας, καρπὸν τοῦ πιστεύειν οὐκ εὐκαταφρόνητον ἐπιδεικνυμένους τὸν ἐῤῥωμένον βίον καὶ τὴν ἀπὸ τῆς χύσεως τῶν κακῶν μεταβολὴν, οὐ χωρὶς ἐφαπτομένων τῶν βοηθούντων αὐτῶν τῇ πρὸς θεὸν ἐπιστροφῇ ἀγγέλων γίνεσθαι, οὐκ ἄλογον εἶναί μοι φαίνεται.

Paradoxa de pragmata tois anthrōpois epiphainesthai pote kai tōn Hellēnōn historēsan ou monon hoi hyponoēthentes an hōs mythopoiountes alla kai (hoi) hoion poly epideixamenoi gnēsiōs philosophein kai philalēthōs ektithesthai ta eis autous phthasanta. toiauta dʼ anegnōmen para tǭ Solei Chrysippǭ, tina de para Pythagorą, ēdē de kai para tisi tōn neōterōn kai chthes kai prōēn gegenēmenōn, hōsper para tǭ Chairōnei Ploutarchǭ en tois peri psychēs kai tǭ Pythagoreiǭ Noumēniǭ en tǭ deuterǭ peri aphtharsias psychēs. ē Hellēnes men ean toiauta diēgōntai kai malista hoi en autois philosophountes, ou chleuē oude gelōs ta legomena oude plasmata kai mythoi eisin, ean dʼ hoi tǭ theǭ tōn holōn anakeimenoi kai hyper tou mēde mechri phōnēs pseudos eipein peri tou theou pasan aikian mechri thanatou anadechomenoi hōs idontes apangellōsin angelōn epiphaneias, ouk axioi tou pisteuesthai krinontai oude hoi logoi autōn en alēthesi katatattontai? allʼ ouk eulogon houtō krinein ta peri alētheuontōn ē pseudomenōn. hoi gar to anexapatēton askountes meta pollēs kai akribous ereunēs kai exetaseōs tōn kata tous topous bradion kai asphalōs apophainontai peri tou tous toiousdi men alētheuein tous toiousdi de pseudesthai en hois historousi paradoxois, oute pantōn to tou pisteuesthai axion epideiknymenōn oute pantōn [tōn] enargōs apodeiknymenōn plasmata kai mythous tois anthrōpois paradedōkenai. eti de peri tēs tou Iēsou ek nekrōn anastaseōs kai tauta lekteon, hoti tote men hena ē deuteron ōphthai angelon, angellonta auton egēgerthai kai pronoeisthai tōn epi ōpheleią heautōn peri tou toioutou pisteuontōn, ou thaumaston; aei de tous toioutous tǭ egēgerthai ton Iēsoun pisteuontas, karpon tou pisteuein ouk eukataphronēton epideiknymenous ton errhōmenon bion kai tēn apo tēs chyseōs tōn kakōn metabolēn, ou chōris ephaptomenōn tōn boēthountōn autōn tę̄ pros theon epistrophę̄ angelōn ginesthai, ouk alogon einai moi phainetai.

That marvellous things have sometimes appeared to human beings has been reported even by the Greeks, not only by those who might be suspected of making up myths, but also by those who have shown in many ways that they practise philosophy genuinely and set out truthfully what reached them. We have read such things in Chrysippus of Soli, some in Pythagoras, and even in some more recent writers who lived only yesterday or the day before, such as Plutarch of Chaeronea in his work On the Soul and Numenius the Pythagorean in the second book of On the Incorruptibility of the Soul. Or is it that if Greeks, and especially the philosophers among them, narrate such things, what they say is not mockery or laughter, nor fictions and myths; but if those devoted to the God of the universe, who for the sake of not uttering even with their voice a falsehood about God accept every outrage even to death, report appearances of angels as having seen them, they are judged unworthy of belief and their words are not ranked among true ones? But it is not reasonable to judge thus about those who tell the truth or lie. For those who train themselves not to be deceived, after much careful research and examination of each subject, declare more slowly and securely that such people are truthful and such others lie in the marvels they report, since not all show themselves worthy of belief, nor are all plainly shown to have handed down fictions and myths to human beings. Further, concerning the resurrection of Jesus from the dead, this too must be said: that at that time one or two angels were seen, announcing that he had risen and caring for those who believed this to their own benefit, is no wonder. And it seems to me not unreasonable that those who always so believe that Jesus has risen, and who show as a fruit of their belief, not to be despised, a vigorous life and a change from the flood of evils, do not live without angels who help them in their turning to God taking hold of them.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: Greek philosophers like Chrysippus, Plutarch, and Numenius report supernatural appearances and are believed; Christians who would rather die than lie about God deserve at least equal credence when they report angels.

  • Chrysippus's report, Plutarch's On the Soul, and Numenius's On the Incorruptibility of the Soul are lost. The parenthetical (οἱ) and the deleted [τῶν] are the editor's.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing accent in the digital text): ὑπονοηθέντες αν ὡς → ὑπονοηθέντες ἂν ὡς.

Extrabiblical texts: Chrysippus (Chrysippus; allusion); Numenius, On the Incorruptibility of the Soul 2 (Numenius of Apamea; allusion)

Topics: Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.57 (Koetschau 2:60–61; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-57).

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5.58Koetschau 2:61–62

Κατηγορεῖ δʼ ὁ Κέλσος καὶ τοῦ φάσκοντος λόγου ἄγγελον ἀποκεκυλικέναι τοῦ τάφου, ἔνθα ἦν τὸ Ἰησοῦ σῶμα, „τὸν λίθον“ ὥσπερ μειράκιον, ἐν διατριβῇ λαβὸν τοπικῶς κατηγορῆσαί τινος, καί φησιν ὡς σοφόν τι κατὰ τοῦ λόγου εὑρὼν [καί φησιν] ὅτι ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ παῖς, ὡς ἔοικεν, οὐκ ἐδύνατο ἀνοῖξαι τὸν τάφον, ἀλλʼ ἐδεήθη ἄλλου ἀποκινήσοντος τὴν πέτραν. καὶ ἵνα γε μηδὲν περιεργάσωμαι περὶ τῶν κατὰ τὸν τόπον μηδὲ τροπολογίαν ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος ἐκτιθέμενος δόξω ἀκαίρως εἰς ταῦτα φιλοσοφεῖν, περὶ αὐτῆς ἐρῶ τῆς ἱστορίας ὅτι σεμνότερον αὐτόθεν φαίνεται τὸ τὸν ἐλάττονα καὶ ὑπηρέτην ἀποκεκυλικέναι „τὸν λίθον“ ἢ τὸν ἐπὶ ὠφελείᾳ ἀνθρώπων ἀνιστάμενον τοῦτο πεποιηκέναι. οὐ λέγω δʼ ὅτι οἱ μὲν τῷ λόγῳ ἐπιβουλεύοντες καὶ ἀποκτεῖναι αὐτὸν βουληθέντες καὶ δεῖξαι πᾶσι νεκρὸν καὶ τὸ μηδὲν τυγχάνοντα βούλονται αὐτοῦ μηδαμῶς ἀνοιχθῆναι τὸν τάφον, ἵνα μηδεὶς τὸν λόγον μετὰ τὴν ἐπιβουλὴν αὐτῶν ζῶντα θεάσηται· ὁ δὲ ὑπὲρ σωτηρίας ἀνθρώπων ἐπιδημῶν συνεργὸς τοῦ ἀγγέλου ἄγγελος θεοῦ ἰσχυρότερος ὢν τῶν ἐπιβουλευόντων ἀποκυλίει τὸν βαρὺν λίθον· ἵνα πεισθῶσιν οἱ νομίζοντες τεθνηκέναι τὸν λόγον ὅτι „οὐκ ἔστι“ „μετὰ τῶν νεκρῶν“ ἀλλὰ ζῇ καὶ „προάγει“ τοὺς βουλομένους αὐτῷ ἀκολουθεῖν, ἵνα ἐπιδείξηται τὰ ἑξῆς οἷς ἐπεδείξατο πρότερον, τοῖς μὴ χωροῦσί πω αὐτῶν μείζονα κατὰ τὸν πρότερον τῆς εἰσαγωγῆς αὐτῶν χρόνον. εἶτʼ οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅπως μετὰ ταῦτα παραῤῥίπτει, οὐκ οἶδα εἰς τί τῇ προθέσει αὐτοῦ χρήσιμον εἶναι δοκοῦν, τὸ περὶ τῆς Μαρίας κυούσης ἐληλυθέναι πρὸς τὸν Ἰωσὴφ ἄγγελον καὶ πάλιν ὑπὲρ τοῦ τὸ βρέφος γεννηθὲν καὶ ἐπιβουλευόμενον ἐξαρπάσαντας φυγεῖν εἰς Αἴγυπτον. περὶ τούτων δὲ καὶ ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω πρὸς τὰ ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ εἰρημένα διελέχθημεν. τί δὲ βούλεται Κέλσῳ (τὸ) καὶ Μωϋσεῖ καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις ἱστορεῖσθαι κατὰ τὰς γραφὰς ἀγγέλους πέμπεσθαι; οὐδὲν γάρ μοι φαίνεται συμβάλλεσθαι αὐτῷ πρὸς ὃ βούλεται, καὶ μάλιστα ἐπεὶ οὐδεὶς μὲν ἐκείνων περὶ τοῦ γένους τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἠγωνίσατο, ἵνʼ αὐτὸ ἐπιστρέψῃ ὅση δύναμις ἀπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτημάτων. καὶ ἄλλοι οὖν πεπέμφθωσαν ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ, καὶ οὗτός τι πλέον ἀπαγγελλέτω, καὶ πλημμελούντων Ἰουδαίων καὶ μεταχαραττόντων τὴν εὐσέβειαν καὶ οὐχ ὅσια δρώντων τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ θεοῦ μεταδεδωκέτω „ἄλλοις γεωργοῖς, “ τοῖς πανταχοῦ ἐν ταῖς ἐκκλησίαις ἑαυτῶν ἐπιμελουμένοις καὶ πάντα πράττουσιν ὑπὲρ τοῦ τὰς ἀπὸ τῆς διδασκαλίας τοῦ Ἰησοῦ ἀφορμὰς προσαγαγεῖν διὰ βίου καθαροῦ καὶ λόγου ἀκολούθου τῷ βίῳ πρὸς τὸν τῶν ὅλων θεόν.

Katēgorei dʼ ho Kelsos kai tou phaskontos logou angelon apokekylikenai tou taphou, entha ēn to Iēsou sōma, „ton lithon“ hōsper meirakion, en diatribę̄ labon topikōs katēgorēsai tinos, kai phēsin hōs sophon ti kata tou logou heurōn [kai phēsin] hoti ho tou theou pais, hōs eoiken, ouk edynato anoixai ton taphon, allʼ edeēthē allou apokinēsontos tēn petran. kai hina ge mēden periergasōmai peri tōn kata ton topon mēde tropologian epi tou parontos ektithemenos doxō akairōs eis tauta philosophein, peri autēs erō tēs historias hoti semnoteron autothen phainetai to ton elattona kai hypēretēn apokekylikenai „ton lithon“ ē ton epi ōpheleią anthrōpōn anistamenon touto pepoiēkenai. ou legō dʼ hoti hoi men tǭ logǭ epibouleuontes kai apokteinai auton boulēthentes kai deixai pasi nekron kai to mēden tynchanonta boulontai autou mēdamōs anoichthēnai ton taphon, hina mēdeis ton logon meta tēn epiboulēn autōn zōnta theasētai; ho de hyper sōtērias anthrōpōn epidēmōn synergos tou angelou angelos theou ischyroteros ōn tōn epibouleuontōn apokyliei ton baryn lithon; hina peisthōsin hoi nomizontes tethnēkenai ton logon hoti „ouk esti“ „meta tōn nekrōn“ alla zę̄ kai „proagei“ tous boulomenous autǭ akolouthein, hina epideixētai ta hexēs hois epedeixato proteron, tois mē chōrousi pō autōn meizona kata ton proteron tēs eisagōgēs autōn chronon. eitʼ ouk oidʼ hopōs meta tauta pararrhiptei, ouk oida eis ti tę̄ prothesei autou chrēsimon einai dokoun, to peri tēs Marias kyousēs elēlythenai pros ton Iōsēph angelon kai palin hyper tou to brephos gennēthen kai epibouleuomenon exarpasantas phygein eis Aigypton. peri toutōn de kai en tois anōterō pros ta hypʼ autou eirēmena dielechthēmen. ti de bouletai Kelsǭ (to) kai Mōÿsei kai tois allois historeisthai kata tas graphas angelous pempesthai? ouden gar moi phainetai symballesthai autǭ pros ho bouletai, kai malista epei oudeis men ekeinōn peri tou genous tōn anthrōpōn ēgōnisato, hinʼ auto epistrepsę̄ hosē dynamis apo tōn hamartēmatōn. kai alloi oun pepemphthōsan apo tou theou, kai houtos ti pleon apangelletō, kai plēmmelountōn Ioudaiōn kai metacharattontōn tēn eusebeian kai ouch hosia drōntōn tēn basileian tou theou metadedōketō „allois geōrgois, “ tois pantachou en tais ekklēsiais heautōn epimeloumenois kai panta prattousin hyper tou tas apo tēs didaskalias tou Iēsou aphormas prosagagein dia biou katharou kai logou akolouthou tǭ biǭ pros ton tōn holōn theon.

Celsus also accuses the account that says an angel rolled "the stone" away from the tomb where Jesus's body was, like a youth who has seized on something in a school exercise to accuse, as a set topic; and, as though he had found something clever against the account, he says: "The child of God, it seems, could not open the tomb, but needed another to roll away the rock." So as not to be overly curious about the passage, or seem to philosophize unseasonably by setting out a figurative interpretation at present, I will say about the narrative itself that it is plainly more dignified for the lesser being and servant to have rolled away "the stone" than for the one rising for the benefit of human beings to have done it. I will not dwell on the point that those who plotted against the Word, and wished to kill him and show him to all as dead and of no account, wanted his tomb never to be opened, so that no one might see the Word alive after their plot; while the angel of God, who came as fellow-worker with the Angel for the salvation of human beings and was stronger than the plotters, rolls away the heavy stone, so that those who think the Word has died may be persuaded that he "is not" "among the dead," but lives and "goes before" those who wish to follow him, so as to show them what comes next after what he showed before, to those who during the earlier period of their instruction could not yet contain greater things. Then, I do not know how, after this he throws in, for I know not what useful purpose to his aim, that when Mary was pregnant an angel came to Joseph, and again that they might snatch up the child who had been born and was being plotted against, and flee to Egypt. We have discussed these things above too, in reply to what he said. And what does Celsus mean by the fact that the Scriptures report angels sent to Moses and the others? It seems to me to contribute nothing to what he wants, especially since none of them struggled for the human race to turn it, as far as possible, from its sins. Let others, then, have been sent from God, and let this one announce something more; and since the Jews were doing wrong, debasing piety, and not doing holy things, let him give the kingdom of God "to other tenants," those everywhere in the churches who take care of themselves and do everything to bring the starting points given by Jesus's teaching to the God of the universe through a pure life and a word consistent with that life.

Matt 28:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 28:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 1:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 2:13–14 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 21:41 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: It is more fitting that a servant angel, not the risen Lord himself, rolled away the stone; the other angels Celsus mentions do nothing for his case, since Christ alone came to turn all humanity from sin and gave God's kingdom to the church.

  • The references are Matt 28:2, Luke 24:5, Matt 28:7, Matt 1:20, Matt 2:13–14, and Matt 21:41. "The Angel" is probably Christ, "the angel of great counsel" (5.53); the angel at the tomb is his fellow-worker. The Greek word order is ambiguous. The deleted [καί φησιν] and the supplement (τὸ) are the editor's.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.58 (Koetschau 2:61–62; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-58).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.59Koetschau 2:62–63

Εἶθʼ ἑξῆς φησιν ὁ Κέλσος· οὐκοῦν ὁ αὐτὸς θεὸς Ἰουδαίοις τε καὶ τοῖσδε, δῆλον δʼ ὅτι τοῖς Χριστιανοῖς· καὶ ὡσπερεὶ τὸ οὐκ ἂν διδόμενον συνάγων τοῦτό φησι· σαφῶς γε τῶν ἀπὸ μεγάλης ἐκκλησίας τοῦτο ὁμολογούντων καὶ τὰ τῆς παρὰ Ἰουδαίοις φερομένης κοσμογονίας προσιεμένων ὡς ἀληθῆ περί γε τῶν ἓξ ἡμερῶν καὶ τῆς ἑβδόμης, ἐν ᾗ, ὡς μὲν ἡ γραφὴ λέγει, „κατέπαυσεν“ „ἀπὸ τῶν ἔργων ἑαυτοῦ“ ὁ θεὸς ἀναχωρῶν εἰς τὴν ἑαυτοῦ περιωπὴν, ὡς δʼ ὁ Κέλσος μὴ τηρήσας τὰ γεγραμμένα μηδὲ συνιεὶς αὐτά φησιν, ἀναπαυσάμενος, ὅπερ οὐ γέγραπται. περὶ δὲ τῆς κοσμοποιΐας καὶ τοῦ μετʼ αὐτὴν ἀπολειπομένου σαββατισμοῦ τῷ λαῷ τοῦ θεοῦ „πολὺς“ ἂν εἴη καὶ μυστικὸς καὶ βαθὺς καὶ „δυσερμήνευτος λόγος.“ εἶτα δοκεῖ μοι τὸ βιβλίον συμπληρῶσαι θέλων καὶ μέγα δοκεῖν εἶναι ποιῶν εἰκῇ προστιθέναι τινὰ, ὁποῖά ἐστι καὶ τὰ κατὰ τὸν πρῶτον ἄνθρωπον, ὡς ἄρα λέγομεν τὸν αὐτὸν εἶναι ὡς καὶ Ἰουδαῖοι καὶ τὴν ἀπʼ ἐκείνου διαδοχὴν ὁμοίως αὐτοῖς γενεαλογοῦμεν. ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰς ἀλλήλους μὲν ἐπιβουλὴν ἀδελφῶν οὐκ ἴσμεν, τὸν δὲ Κάϊν ἐπιβεβουλευκέναι τῷ Ἄβελ καὶ τὸν Ἠσαῦ τῷ Ἰακώβ· οὐ γὰρ Ἄβελ τῷ Κάϊν ἐπεβούλευσεν οὐδὲ ὁ Ἰακὼβ τῷ Ἠσαῦ· ὅπερ εἰ ἐγεγόνει, ἀκολούθως ἂν εἶπεν ὁ Κέλσος τὰς εἰς ἀλλήλους τῶν ἀδελφῶν ἐπιβουλὰς τὰς αὐτὰς ἡμᾶς Ἰουδαίοις ἱστορεῖν. ἔστω δὲ καὶ τὴν εἰς Αἴγυπτον ἡμᾶς ἀποδημίαν τὴν αὐτὴν λέγειν ἐκείνοις καὶ τὴν ἐκεῖθεν ἐπάνοδον καὶ οὐ φυγὴν, ὡς ὁ Κέλσος νομίζει· τί οὖν ταῦτα συμβάλλεται πρὸς τὴν καθʼ ἡμῶν ἢ κατὰ Ἰουδαίων κατηγορίαν; ἔνθα μὲν οὖν ᾤετο χλευάσειν ἡμᾶς ἐν τῷ περὶ τῶν Ἑβραίων λόγῳ, φυγὴν ὠνόμαζεν· ὅπου δʼ ἦν τὸ πραγματικὸν ἐξετάσαι περὶ τῶν ἀναγεγραμμένων μαστίγων ἐπεληλυθέναι τῇ Αἰγύπτῳ ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ, τοῦθʼ ἑκὼν ἐσιώπησεν.

Eithʼ hexēs phēsin ho Kelsos; oukoun ho autos theos Ioudaiois te kai toisde, dēlon dʼ hoti tois Christianois; kai hōsperei to ouk an didomenon synagōn touto phēsi; saphōs ge tōn apo megalēs ekklēsias touto homologountōn kai ta tēs para Ioudaiois pheromenēs kosmogonias prosiemenōn hōs alēthē peri ge tōn hex hēmerōn kai tēs hebdomēs, en hę̄, hōs men hē graphē legei, „katepausen“ „apo tōn ergōn heautou“ ho theos anachōrōn eis tēn heautou periōpēn, hōs dʼ ho Kelsos mē tērēsas ta gegrammena mēde synieis auta phēsin, anapausamenos, hoper ou gegraptai. peri de tēs kosmopoiïas kai tou metʼ autēn apoleipomenou sabbatismou tǭ laǭ tou theou „polys“ an eiē kai mystikos kai bathys kai „dysermēneutos logos.“ eita dokei moi to biblion symplērōsai thelōn kai mega dokein einai poiōn eikę̄ prostithenai tina, hopoia esti kai ta kata ton prōton anthrōpon, hōs ara legomen ton auton einai hōs kai Ioudaioi kai tēn apʼ ekeinou diadochēn homoiōs autois genealogoumen. alla kai eis allēlous men epiboulēn adelphōn ouk ismen, ton de Kaïn epibebouleukenai tǭ Abel kai ton Ēsau tǭ Iakōb; ou gar Abel tǭ Kaïn epebouleusen oude ho Iakōb tǭ Ēsau; hoper ei egegonei, akolouthōs an eipen ho Kelsos tas eis allēlous tōn adelphōn epiboulas tas autas hēmas Ioudaiois historein. estō de kai tēn eis Aigypton hēmas apodēmian tēn autēn legein ekeinois kai tēn ekeithen epanodon kai ou phygēn, hōs ho Kelsos nomizei; ti oun tauta symballetai pros tēn kathʼ hēmōn ē kata Ioudaiōn katēgorian? entha men oun ǭeto chleuasein hēmas en tǭ peri tōn Hebraiōn logǭ, phygēn ōnomazen; hopou dʼ ēn to pragmatikon exetasai peri tōn anagegrammenōn mastigōn epelēlythenai tę̄ Aigyptǭ apo tou theou, touthʼ hekōn esiōpēsen.

Then next Celsus says: "So the same God is God both of the Jews and of these," meaning clearly the Christians; and, as though drawing a conclusion that would not be granted, he says this: "Clearly those of the great church admit this, and accept as true the cosmogony current among the Jews, at least about the six days and the seventh," on which, as the Scripture says, God "rested from his works," withdrawing to his own watchtower, but, as Celsus says, not having observed or understood what is written, "took a rest," which is not written. About the making of the world, and the sabbath rest that remains after it for the people of God, there would be "much" to say, and it is mystical and deep and "hard to explain." Then, it seems to me, wishing to fill up his book and make it seem large, he adds some things at random, such as those about the first man, that we say he is the same as the Jews do, and trace the descent from him in the same way as they. And we know of no plots of brothers against one another, except that Cain plotted against Abel and Esau against Jacob; for Abel did not plot against Cain nor Jacob against Esau; if that had happened, Celsus would consistently have said that we report the same plots of brothers against one another as the Jews do. Let it be granted that we also speak of the same journey into Egypt as they do, and the return from there, and not a flight, as Celsus thinks: what, then, do these things contribute to the accusation against us or against the Jews? Where he thought he could mock us in his account of the Hebrews, he called it a flight; but where the substance lay, to examine the recorded plagues brought upon Egypt by God, he deliberately kept silent.

Gen 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 4:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 5:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 4:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 27:41 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 7:14–12:30 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Celsus notes that the 'great church' shares the Jews' God and Genesis; Origen agrees, corrects Celsus's reading of God's 'rest' on the seventh day, and notes his silence about the plagues of Egypt.

  • The allusions are Gen 2:2, Heb 4:9, Heb 5:11, Gen 4:8, and Gen 27:41. "The great church" is Celsus's term for the main body of Christians, distinct from the sects.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.59 (Koetschau 2:62–63; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-59).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

5.60Koetschau 2:63–64

Εἰ δʼ ἀκριβῶς χρὴ ἡμᾶς λέγειν τὰ πρὸς τὸν Κέλσον, οἰόμενον τὰ αὐτὰ ἡμᾶς Ἰουδαίοις περὶ τῶν ἐκκειμένων δοξάζειν, φήσομεν ὅτι τὰ μὲν βιβλία θείῳ γεγράφθαι πνεύματι ὁμολογοῦμεν ἀμφότεροι, περὶ δὲ τῆς ἐκδοχῆς τῶν ἐν τοῖς βιβλίοις οὐκέτι τὰ ὅμοιά φαμεν, οἵ γε οὐδὲ βιοῦμεν ὡς Ἰουδαῖοι τῷ φρονεῖν οὐ τὴν κατὰ τὸ ῥητὸν ἐκδοχὴν τῶν νόμων εἶναι τὴν περιέχουσαν τὸ βούλημα τῆς νομοθεσίας. καὶ λέγομεν δʼ ὅτι, „ἡνίκα ἂν ἀναγινώσκηται Μωϋσῆς, κάλυμμα ἐπὶ τὴν καρδίαν κεῖται“ τῷ τοῖς τὴν διὰ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ μὴ ἀσπασαμένοις ὁδὸν ἐπικεκρύφθαι τὸ βούλημα τοῦ Μωϋσέως νόμου. ἴσμεν δʼ ὅτι, „ἐὰν ἐπιστρέψῃ τις πρὸς τὸν κύριον“ („ὁ δὲ κύριος τὸ πνεῦμά ἐστι“), περιαιρεθεὶς „τὸ κάλυμμα“ „ἀνακεκαλυμμένῳ προσώπῳ τὴν“ ἐν τοῖς κεκρυμμένοις νοήμασι κατὰ τὰ γράμματα „δόξαν τοῦ κυρίου“ ὡσπερεὶ κατοπτρίζεται καὶ μεταλαμβάνει τῆς καλουμένης θείας δόξης εἰς τὴν ἑαυτοῦ δόξαν (τροπικῶς μὲν λεγομένου προσώπου γυμνότερον δʼ, ὡς ἂν ὀνομάσαι τις, τοῦ νοῦ). ἐν ᾧ ἐστι τὸ [τοῦ] „κατὰ τὸν ἔσω ἄνθρωπον“ πρόσωπον, πληρούμενον φωτὸς καὶ δόξης ἀπὸ τῆς περὶ τῶν κατὰ τοὺς νόμους ἀληθείας.

Ei dʼ akribōs chrē hēmas legein ta pros ton Kelson, oiomenon ta auta hēmas Ioudaiois peri tōn ekkeimenōn doxazein, phēsomen hoti ta men biblia theiǭ gegraphthai pneumati homologoumen amphoteroi, peri de tēs ekdochēs tōn en tois bibliois ouketi ta homoia phamen, hoi ge oude bioumen hōs Ioudaioi tǭ phronein ou tēn kata to rhēton ekdochēn tōn nomōn einai tēn periechousan to boulēma tēs nomothesias. kai legomen dʼ hoti, „hēnika an anaginōskētai Mōÿsēs, kalymma epi tēn kardian keitai“ tǭ tois tēn dia Iēsou Christou mē aspasamenois hodon epikekryphthai to boulēma tou Mōÿseōs nomou. ismen dʼ hoti, „ean epistrepsę̄ tis pros ton kyrion“ („ho de kyrios to pneuma esti“), periairetheis „to kalymma“ „anakekalymmenǭ prosōpǭ tēn“ en tois kekrymmenois noēmasi kata ta grammata „doxan tou kyriou“ hōsperei katoptrizetai kai metalambanei tēs kaloumenēs theias doxēs eis tēn heautou doxan (tropikōs men legomenou prosōpou gymnoteron dʼ, hōs an onomasai tis, tou nou). en hǭ esti to [tou] „kata ton esō anthrōpon“ prosōpon, plēroumenon phōtos kai doxēs apo tēs peri tōn kata tous nomous alētheias.

If we must answer Celsus precisely, since he thinks we hold the same views as the Jews on the matters set out, we will say that we both agree that the books were written by the divine Spirit, but about the interpretation of what is in the books we no longer say the same things, since we do not even live as the Jews do, because we think that the literal interpretation of the laws is not what contains the intent of the legislation. And we say that "whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over the heart," because the intent of the law of Moses has been hidden from those who have not embraced the way through Jesus Christ. And we know that "if anyone turns to the Lord" ("and the Lord is the Spirit"), having had "the veil" removed, he beholds as in a mirror, "with unveiled face," "the glory of the Lord" in the thoughts hidden in the letter, and shares in what is called the divine glory for his own glory ("face" being said figuratively, and, as one might put it more plainly, meaning the mind), in which is the face "of the inner man," filled with light and glory from the truth contained in the laws.

2 Cor 3:15–18 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 7:22 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christians and Jews agree the Scriptures are inspired but differ in interpretation: for Christians the literal law is veiled until one turns to the Lord, who is the Spirit, and sees its hidden glory.

  • The quotations are 2 Cor 3:15–18 and Rom 7:22. The deleted [τοῦ] is the editor's.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.60 (Koetschau 2:63–64; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-45/#p-5-60).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.