Against Celsus 8.34–8.49
Greek text: Koetschau, GCS 2–3 (Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885).
Chapter 8
8.34Koetschau 2:249–250
Ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀπαρχὰς Κέλσος μὲν δαιμονίοις ἀνατιθέναι βούλεται. ἡμεῖς δὲ τῷ εἰπόντι· „βλαστησάτω ἡ γῆ βοτάνην χόρτου. σπεῖρον σπέρμα κατὰ γένος καὶ καθʼ ὁμοιότητα, καὶ ξύλον κάρπιμον ποιοῦν καρπὸν, οὗ τὸ σπέρμα αὐτοῦ ἐν αὐτῷ κατὰ γένος ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς.“ ᾧ δὲ τὰς ἀπαρχὰς ἀποδίδομεν. τούτῳ καὶ τὰς εὐχὰς ἀναπέμπομεν, „ἔχοντες ἀρχιερέα μέγαν, διεληλυθότα τοὺς οὐρανοὺς, Ἰησοῦν τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ θεοῦ, “ καὶ κρατοῦμεν „τῆς ὁμολογίας, “ ἕως ἂν ζῶμεν. φιλανθρώπου τυγχάνοντες τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τοῦ μονογενοῦς αὐτοῦ, ἐν Ἰησοῦ ἡμῖν φανερουμένου. εἰ δὲ καὶ πλῆθος ποθοῦμεν ὧν φιλανθρώπων τυγχάνειν θέλομεν, μανθάνομεν „ὅτι χίλιαι χιλιάδες παρειστήκεισαν αὐτῷ. καὶ μύριαι μυριάδες ἐλειτούργουν αὐτῷ, “ αἵτινες ὡς συγγενεῖς καὶ φίλους τοὺς μιμουμένους τὴν εἰς θεὸν αὐτῶν εὐσέβειαν ὁρῶντες συμπράττουσιν αὐτῶν τῇ σωτηρίᾳ τῶν ἐπικαλουμένων τὸν θεὸν καὶ γνησίως εὐχομένων, ἐπιφαινόμενοι καὶ οἰόμενοι αὐτοῖς δεῖν ἐπακούειν καὶ ὥσπερ ἐξ ἑνὸς συνθήματος ἐπιδημεῖν ἐπʼ εὐεργεσίᾳ καὶ σωτηρίᾳ τῶν εὐχομένων θεῷ, ᾧ καὶ αὐτοὶ εὔχονται. καὶ γὰρ „πάντες εἰσὶ λειτουργικὰ πνεύματα, εἰς διακονίαν ἀποστελλόμενα διὰ τοὺς μέλλοντας κληρονομεῖν σωτηρίαν.“ Ἑλλήνων μὲν οὖν οἱ σοφοὶ λεγέτωσαν δαίμονας εἰληχέναι τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην ψυχὴν ἀπὸ γενέσεως· ὁ δὲ Ἰησοῦς ἡμᾶς ἐδίδαξε μηδὲ „τῶν“ ἐν τῇ ἐκκλησίᾳ „μικρῶν“ καταφρονεῖν, λέγων ὅτι „οἱ ἄγγελοι αὐτῶν διὰ παντὸς βλέπουσι τὸ πρόσωπον τοῦ πατρός μου τοῦ ἐν οὐρανοῖς, “ καὶ ὁ προφήτης δέ φησιν ὅτι „παρεμβαλεῖ ἄγγελος κυρίου κύκλῳ τῶν φοβουμένων αὐτὸν καὶ ῥύσεται αὐτούς.“ οὐκ ἀναιροῦμεν οὖν καὶ ἡμεῖς τὸ πολλοὺς εἶναι δαίμονας ἐπὶ γῆς ἀλλά φαμεν εἶναι μὲν αὐτοὺς καὶ δύνασθαι ἐν τοῖς φαύλοις διὰ τὴν ἐκείνων κακίαν, μηδὲν δὲ δύνασθαι πρὸς τοὺς ἐνδυσαμένους „τὴν πανοπλίαν τοῦ θεοῦ“ καὶ ἀναλαβόντας ἰσχὺν „πρὸς τὸ“ ἀντιστῆναι „πρὸς τὰς μεθοδείας τοῦ διαβόλου“ καὶ μελετῶντας ἀεὶ τὰ ἐκείνων παλαίσματα τῷ ἐγνωκέναι „ὅτι οὐκ ἔστιν ἡμῖν ἡ πάλη πρὸς αἷμα καὶ σάρκα ἀλλὰ πρὸς τὰς ἀρχὰς, πρὸς τὰς ἐξουσίας, πρὸς τοὺς κοσμοκράτορας τοῦ σκότους τούτου, πρὸς τὰ πνευματικὰ τῆς πονηρίας ἐν τοῖς ἐπουρανίοις.“
Alla kai aparchas Kelsos men daimoniois anatithenai bouletai. hēmeis de tǭ eiponti; „blastēsatō hē gē botanēn chortou. speiron sperma kata genos kai kathʼ homoiotēta, kai xylon karpimon poioun karpon, hou to sperma autou en autǭ kata genos epi tēs gēs.“ hǭ de tas aparchas apodidomen. toutǭ kai tas euchas anapempomen, „echontes archierea megan, dielēlythota tous ouranous, Iēsoun ton huion tou theou, “ kai kratoumen „tēs homologias, “ heōs an zōmen. philanthrōpou tynchanontes tou theou kai tou monogenous autou, en Iēsou hēmin phaneroumenou. ei de kai plēthos pothoumen hōn philanthrōpōn tynchanein thelomen, manthanomen „hoti chiliai chiliades pareistēkeisan autǭ. kai myriai myriades eleitourgoun autǭ, “ haitines hōs syngeneis kai philous tous mimoumenous tēn eis theon autōn eusebeian horōntes symprattousin autōn tę̄ sōtērią tōn epikaloumenōn ton theon kai gnēsiōs euchomenōn, epiphainomenoi kai oiomenoi autois dein epakouein kai hōsper ex henos synthēmatos epidēmein epʼ euergesią kai sōtērią tōn euchomenōn theǭ, hǭ kai autoi euchontai. kai gar „pantes eisi leitourgika pneumata, eis diakonian apostellomena dia tous mellontas klēronomein sōtērian.“ Hellēnōn men oun hoi sophoi legetōsan daimonas eilēchenai tēn anthrōpinēn psychēn apo geneseōs; ho de Iēsous hēmas edidaxe mēde „tōn“ en tę̄ ekklēsią „mikrōn“ kataphronein, legōn hoti „hoi angeloi autōn dia pantos blepousi to prosōpon tou patros mou tou en ouranois, “ kai ho prophētēs de phēsin hoti „parembalei angelos kyriou kyklǭ tōn phoboumenōn auton kai rhysetai autous.“ ouk anairoumen oun kai hēmeis to pollous einai daimonas epi gēs alla phamen einai men autous kai dynasthai en tois phaulois dia tēn ekeinōn kakian, mēden de dynasthai pros tous endysamenous „tēn panoplian tou theou“ kai analabontas ischyn „pros to“ antistēnai „pros tas methodeias tou diabolou“ kai meletōntas aei ta ekeinōn palaismata tǭ egnōkenai „hoti ouk estin hēmin hē palē pros haima kai sarka alla pros tas archas, pros tas exousias, pros tous kosmokratoras tou skotous toutou, pros ta pneumatika tēs ponērias en tois epouraniois.“
Celsus also wants us to offer first-fruits to demons; but we offer them to him who said, “Let the earth bring forth green herbage, yielding seed according to its kind and likeness, and the fruit tree bearing fruit whose seed is in it according to its kind upon the earth.” And to him to whom we render first-fruits we also send up our prayers, “having a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God,” and we hold fast “the confession” as long as we live, finding God and his Only-begotten, made manifest to us in Jesus, kind to men. And if we long also for a multitude of beings whom we wish to find kind, we learn “that thousands of thousands stood before him, and myriads of myriads served him”; and they, looking upon those who imitate their piety toward God as kinsmen and friends, work together for the salvation of those who call upon God and pray sincerely, appearing to them, thinking that they ought to hear them, and coming as though by one agreed signal for the benefit and salvation of those who pray to God, to whom they themselves also pray. For “they are all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation.” Let the wise men of the Greeks say, then, that demons have been allotted the human soul from birth; but Jesus taught us not to despise even “the little ones” in the church, saying that “their angels always behold the face of my Father who is in heaven,” and the prophet says, “The angel of the Lord will encamp around those who fear him and will deliver them.” We too, then, do not deny that there are many demons on earth; but we say that they exist and have power among the wicked because of their wickedness, but have no power against those who have put on “the whole armour of God” and have taken strength “to” stand “against the wiles of the devil,” and always study how to wrestle with them, knowing “that our wrestling is not against blood and flesh, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
Gen 1:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 4:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 7:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 18:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 34:7 (33:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 6:11–12 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Christians offer first-fruits and prayers to the Creator through Jesus the high priest, and have the friendship of countless angels who help those who pray; demons have power only over the wicked, not over those armed with God's armour.
- The quotations are Gen 1:11, Heb 4:14, Dan 7:10, Heb 1:14, Matt 18:10, Ps 34:7 (33:8 LXX), and Eph 6:11–12. The Greek view that each soul receives a demon at birth goes back to Plato (Phaedo 107d, Republic 617e).
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Phaed. 107d (Plato (works); allusion)
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.34 (Koetschau 2:249–250; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-34).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.35Koetschau 2:250–251
Κατανοήσωμεν δὲ καὶ ἄλλην λέξιν τοῦ Κέλσου, οὕτως ἔχουσαν· ἢ ὁ μὲν τοῦ Περσῶν ἢ Ῥωμαίων βασιλέως σατράπης καὶ ὕπαρχος ἢ στρατηγὸς ἢ ἐπίτροπος, ἔτι μὴν καὶ οἱ τὰς μικροτέρας ἀρχὰς ἢ ἐπιμελείας ἢ ὑπηρεσίας ἔχοντες μέγα δύναιντʼ ἂν βλάπτειν ἀμελούμενοι, οἱ δʼ ἐναέριοί τε καὶ ἐπίγειοι σατράπαι καὶ διάκονοι μικρὰ βλάπτοιεν ἂν ὑβριζόμενοι; ὅρα δὴ πῶς ἀνθρωπικοὺς σατράπας τοῦ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεοῦ καὶ ὑπάρχους καὶ στρατηγοὺς καὶ ἐπιτρόπους καὶ τοὺς μικροτέρας ἀρχὰς καὶ ἐπιμελείας καὶ ὑπηρεσίας ἔχοντας εἰσάγει μεγάλα βλάπτοντας τοὺς ὑβρίζοντας, οὐχ ὁρῶν ὅτι οὐδὲ σοφὸς ἄνθρωπος βλάψαι ἂν βούλοιτό τινα ἀλλʼ ὅση δύναμις καὶ τοὺς ὑβρίζοντας ἐπιστρέφειν καὶ βελτιοῦν· εἰ μὴ ἄρα Λυκούργου τοῦ Λακεδαιμονίων νομοθέτου καὶ τοῦ Κιτιέως Ζήνωνος χείρους εἰσὶν οἱ κατὰ τὸν Κέλσον σατράπαι καὶ ὕπαρχοι καὶ στρατηγοὶ τοῦ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεοῦ· ὅτι Λυκοῦργος μὲν, λαβὼν ἐξουσίαν τοῦ ἐκκόψαντος αὐτοῦ τὸν ὀφθαλμὸν, οὐ μόνον οὐκ ἠμύνατο ἀλλὰ καὶ οὐκ ἐπαύσατο κατεπᾴδων αὐτῷ, ἕως αὐτὸν πείσειε φιλοσοφεῖν, Ζήνων δὲ πρὸς τὸν εἰπόντα· „ἀπολοίμην, ἐὰν μή σε τιμωρήσωμαι, “ „ἐγὼ δὲ, “ ἔφη, „ἐὰν μή σε> φίλον κτήσωμαι.“ καὶ οὐδέπω λέγω τοὺς κατὰ τὴν διδασκαλίαν Ἰησοῦ πεποιωμένους καὶ ἀκούσαντας τοῦ „ἀγαπᾶτε τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ὑμῶν καὶ προσεύχεσθε ὑπὲρ τῶν ἐπηρεαζόντων ὑμᾶς, ὅπως γένησθε υἱοὶ τοῦ πατρὸς ὑμῶν τοῦ ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς, ὃς τὸν ἥλιον αὐτοῦ ἀνατέλλει ἐπὶ πονηροὺς καὶ ἀγαθοὺς καὶ βρέχει ἐπὶ δικαίους καὶ ἀδίκους.“ καὶ ἐν τοῖς προφητικοῖς δὲ λόγοις ὁ δίκαιος τοιαῦτά φησι· „κύριε ὁ θεός μου, εἰ ἐποίησα τοῦτο. εἰ ἔστιν ἀδικία ἐν χερσί μου, εἰ ἀνταπέδωκα τοῖς ἀνταποδιδοῦσί μοι κακὰ, ἀποπέσοιμι ἄρα ἀπὸ τῶν ἐχθρῶν μου κενός· καταδιώξαι ἄρα ὁ ἐχθρὸς τὴν ψυχήν μου καὶ καταλάβοι, καὶ καταπατήσαι εἰς γῆν τὴν ζωήν μου, “
Katanoēsōmen de kai allēn lexin tou Kelsou, houtōs echousan; ē ho men tou Persōn ē Rhōmaiōn basileōs satrapēs kai hyparchos ē stratēgos ē epitropos, eti mēn kai hoi tas mikroteras archas ē epimeleias ē hypēresias echontes mega dynaintʼ an blaptein ameloumenoi, hoi dʼ enaerioi te kai epigeioi satrapai kai diakonoi mikra blaptoien an hybrizomenoi? hora dē pōs anthrōpikous satrapas tou epi pasi theou kai hyparchous kai stratēgous kai epitropous kai tous mikroteras archas kai epimeleias kai hypēresias echontas eisagei megala blaptontas tous hybrizontas, ouch horōn hoti oude sophos anthrōpos blapsai an bouloito tina allʼ hosē dynamis kai tous hybrizontas epistrephein kai beltioun; ei mē ara Lykourgou tou Lakedaimoniōn nomothetou kai tou Kitieōs Zēnōnos cheirous eisin hoi kata ton Kelson satrapai kai hyparchoi kai stratēgoi tou epi pasi theou; hoti Lykourgos men, labōn exousian tou ekkopsantos autou ton ophthalmon, ou monon ouk ēmynato alla kai ouk epausato katepądōn autǭ, heōs auton peiseie philosophein, Zēnōn de pros ton eiponta; „apoloimēn, ean mē se timōrēsōmai, “ „egō de, “ ephē, „ean mē se> philon ktēsōmai.“ kai oudepō legō tous kata tēn didaskalian Iēsou pepoiōmenous kai akousantas tou „agapate tous echthrous hymōn kai proseuchesthe hyper tōn epēreazontōn hymas, hopōs genēsthe huioi tou patros hymōn tou en tois ouranois, hos ton hēlion autou anatellei epi ponērous kai agathous kai brechei epi dikaious kai adikous.“ kai en tois prophētikois de logois ho dikaios toiauta phēsi; „kyrie ho theos mou, ei epoiēsa touto. ei estin adikia en chersi mou, ei antapedōka tois antapodidousi moi kaka, apopesoimi ara apo tōn echthrōn mou kenos; katadiōxai ara ho echthros tēn psychēn mou kai katalaboi, kai katapatēsai eis gēn tēn zōēn mou, “
Let us consider also another statement of Celsus, which runs thus: “Or could the satrap, governor, general, or procurator of the king of the Persians or of the Romans, and even those who hold lesser offices, charges, or services, do great harm if neglected, while the satraps and ministers of air and earth would do little harm if insulted?” See how he presents human satraps, governors, generals, and procurators of the God over all, and those holding lesser offices, charges, and services, as doing great harm to those who insult them, not seeing that not even a wise man would wish to harm anyone, but would rather try, as far as he can, to convert and improve even those who insult him; unless, indeed, Celsus's satraps, governors, and generals of the God over all are worse than Lycurgus the lawgiver of the Spartans and Zeno of Citium. For Lycurgus, when he was given power over the man who had knocked out his eye, not only did not take revenge but did not cease charming him with words until he persuaded him to practise philosophy; and Zeno, to one who said, “May I perish if I do not take vengeance on you,” replied, “And I, if I do not make you my friend.” And I do not yet speak of those formed by the teaching of Jesus, who have heard, “Love your enemies and pray for those who mistreat you, so that you may be sons of your Father in heaven, who makes his sun rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.” And in the prophetic words the righteous man says such things as this: “O Lord my God, if I have done this, if there is injustice in my hands, if I have repaid those who repaid me with evil, then may I fall empty before my enemies; may the enemy pursue my soul and overtake it, and trample my life into the ground,”
Matt 5:44–45 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 7:3–5 (7:4-Ps LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Celsus warns that the demons, like imperial officials, will harm those who neglect them; Origen replies that even Lycurgus and Zeno did not take revenge, and Jesus taught love of enemies.
- The quotations are Matt 5:44–45 and Ps 7:3–5 (7:4–6 LXX). The anecdotes of Lycurgus (who converted Alcander after losing an eye) and Zeno are told in Plutarch, Lycurgus 11, and elsewhere. The section ends mid-sentence.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.35 (Koetschau 2:250–251; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-35).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.36Koetschau 2:251–252
Ἀλλʼ οὐχ, ὡς οἴεται Κέλσος, βλάπτουσιν οἱ ἀληθῶς σατράπαι καὶ ὕπαρχοι καὶ στρατηγοὶ καὶ ἐπίτροποι τοῦ θεοῦ ἄγγελοι τοὺς ὑβρίζοντας· εἰ δέ τινες βλάπτουσι δαίμονες, οὓς ἐφαντάσθη καὶ ὁ Κέλσος. βλάπτουσιν ὡς φαῦλοι καὶ μηδεμίαν σατραπείαν ἢ στρατηγίαν ἢ ἐπιτροπὴν τοῦ θεοῦ ἐγκεχειρισμένοι, καὶ βλάπτουσι τοὺς ὑποκειμένους αὐτοῖς καὶ ὑποτάξαντας ἑαυτοὺς ὡς δεσπόταις ἐκείνοις. τάχα γὰρ καὶ διὰ τοῦτο οἱ καθʼ ἕκαστον τόπον εἰς τὰ νενομισμένα βρώματα μὴ δεῖν ἐσθίεσθαι παρανομοῦντες, εἰ μὲν τῶν ὑπὸ τοὺς δαίμονας εἶεν ἐκείνους, βλάπτονται· εἰ δέ τινες τῶν οὐχ ὑπʼ ἐκείνους οὐδὲ αὑτοὺς ὑποτάξαντες τῷ τοῦ τόπου δαιμονίῳ, ἐλεύθεροι ἀπὸ τοῦ ὑπʼ ἐκείνων παθεῖν, μακρὰν χαίρειν εἰπόντες τοῖς τοιοισδὶ δαιμονίοις, ἄλλοις διὰ τὴν περὶ ἄλλα ἄγνοιαν ἑαυτοὺς ὑποτάξαντες, ὑπʼ ἐκείνων πάσχειν δύνανται, ἀλλʼ οὐ Χριστιανὸς, ὁ ἀληθῶς Χριστιανὸς καὶ ὑποτάξας ἑαυτὸν μόνῳ τῷ θεῷ καὶ τῷ λόγῳ αὐτοῦ, πάθοι τι ἂν ὑπὸ τῶν δαιμονίων, ἅτε κρείττων δαιμόνων τυγχάνων· καὶ οὐ πάθοι γʼ ἂν, ἐπεὶ „παρεμβαλεῖ ἄγγελος κυρίου κύκλῳ τῶν φοβουμένων αὐτὸν καὶ ῥύσεται αὐτοὺς, “ καὶ ὁ ἄγγελος αὐτοῦ „διὰ παντὸς“ βλέπων „τὸ πρόσωπον τοῦ“ „ἐν οὐρανοῖς“ „πατρὸς“ ἀεὶ τὰς εὐχὰς αὐτοῦ ἀναφέρει διὰ τοῦ μόνου ἀρχιερέως τῷ θεῷ τῶν ὅλων, καὶ αὐτὸς συνευχόμενος τῷ ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ ἐπιτροπευομένῳ. μὴ μορμολυττέσθω τοίνυν ἡμᾶς ὁ Κέλσος, ἀπειλῶν τὴν ἀπὸ τῶν δαιμόνων βλάβην ὑφʼ ἡμῶν ἀμελουμένων· οὐδὲν γὰρ ἡμῖν δαίμονες ἀμελούμενοι ποιεῖν ἂν δύναιντο, ἀνακειμένοις τῷ μόνῳ βοηθεῖν πᾶσι τοῖς ἀξίοις δυναμένῳ, ἐφιστάντι δʼ οὐδὲν ἧττον καὶ τοὺς ἰδίους ἀγγέλους τοῖς εἰς αὐτὸν εὐσεβοῦσιν, ἵνα μηδὲν οἱ ἐναντίοι ἄγγελοι μηδʼ ὁ τούτων „ἄρχων“ λεγόμενος „τοῦ αἰῶνος τούτου“ ἐνεργεῖν κατὰ τῶν ἀνακειμένων τῷ θεῷ δυνηθῇ.
Allʼ ouch, hōs oietai Kelsos, blaptousin hoi alēthōs satrapai kai hyparchoi kai stratēgoi kai epitropoi tou theou angeloi tous hybrizontas; ei de tines blaptousi daimones, hous ephantasthē kai ho Kelsos. blaptousin hōs phauloi kai mēdemian satrapeian ē stratēgian ē epitropēn tou theou enkecheirismenoi, kai blaptousi tous hypokeimenous autois kai hypotaxantas heautous hōs despotais ekeinois. tacha gar kai dia touto hoi kathʼ hekaston topon eis ta nenomismena brōmata mē dein esthiesthai paranomountes, ei men tōn hypo tous daimonas eien ekeinous, blaptontai; ei de tines tōn ouch hypʼ ekeinous oude hautous hypotaxantes tǭ tou topou daimoniǭ, eleutheroi apo tou hypʼ ekeinōn pathein, makran chairein eipontes tois toioisdi daimoniois, allois dia tēn peri alla agnoian heautous hypotaxantes, hypʼ ekeinōn paschein dynantai, allʼ ou Christianos, ho alēthōs Christianos kai hypotaxas heauton monǭ tǭ theǭ kai tǭ logǭ autou, pathoi ti an hypo tōn daimoniōn, hate kreittōn daimonōn tynchanōn; kai ou pathoi gʼ an, epei „parembalei angelos kyriou kyklǭ tōn phoboumenōn auton kai rhysetai autous, “ kai ho angelos autou „dia pantos“ blepōn „to prosōpon tou“ „en ouranois“ „patros“ aei tas euchas autou anapherei dia tou monou archiereōs tǭ theǭ tōn holōn, kai autos syneuchomenos tǭ hypʼ autou epitropeuomenǭ. mē mormolyttesthō toinyn hēmas ho Kelsos, apeilōn tēn apo tōn daimonōn blabēn hyphʼ hēmōn ameloumenōn; ouden gar hēmin daimones ameloumenoi poiein an dynainto, anakeimenois tǭ monǭ boēthein pasi tois axiois dynamenǭ, ephistanti dʼ ouden hētton kai tous idious angelous tois eis auton eusebousin, hina mēden hoi enantioi angeloi mēdʼ ho toutōn „archōn“ legomenos „tou aiōnos toutou“ energein kata tōn anakeimenōn tǭ theǭ dynēthę̄.
But the angels of God, who are truly his satraps, governors, generals, and procurators, do not, as Celsus thinks, harm those who insult them; and if some demons, such as Celsus too imagined, do harm, they harm as wicked beings who have been entrusted with no satrapy, command, or stewardship from God, and they harm those subject to them who have submitted to them as masters. For perhaps this is why those who in each place transgress in eating the foods customarily considered forbidden are harmed, if they are among those under those demons; whereas if some are not under them and have not subjected themselves to the demon of the place, they are free from suffering anything at their hands, though, having bidden farewell to such demons but subjected themselves to others through ignorance of other things, they may suffer at their hands. But the Christian, the true Christian, who has subjected himself to God alone and to his Word, would suffer nothing from the demons, since he is stronger than demons. And he would suffer nothing, since “the angel of the Lord will encamp around those who fear him and will deliver them,” and his angel, who “always” beholds “the face of the Father” “in heaven,” always carries up his prayers through the only high priest to the God of the universe, and himself prays together with the one entrusted to his care. Let Celsus, then, not frighten us like children with bogeys, threatening the harm that comes from the demons if we neglect them; for demons, though neglected, could do nothing to us, who are devoted to him who alone can help all who are worthy, and who none the less sets his own angels over those who worship him, so that neither the opposing angels nor the one called their “ruler of this age” may be able to work anything against those devoted to God.
Ps 34:7 (33:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 18:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 4:14 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 12:31 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: God's angels do not harm those who insult them; demons harm only those who submit to them, while the true Christian is guarded by his angel, who carries his prayers to God through Christ the high priest.
- The quotations are Ps 34:7 (33:8 LXX), Matt 18:10, and John 12:31 (compare 1 Cor 2:6).
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.36 (Koetschau 2:251–252; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-36).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.37Koetschau 2:252–253
Εἶτʼ ἐπιλαθόμενος ὅτι Χριστιανοῖς λαλεῖ, τοῖς μόνοις τῷ θεῷ διὰ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ εὐχομένοις, καὶ συμφύρων τὰ ἑτέρων καὶ ἀλόγως Χριστιανοῖς συνάπτων αὐτά φησιν· ἐὰν μὲν βαρβάρως αὐτοὺς ὀνομάζῃ τις, δύναμιν ἕξουσιν, ἐὰν δὲ Ἑλληνικῶς ἢ Ῥωμαϊκῶς, οὐκέτι. δεικνύτω γὰρ τίνα ἡμεῖς βαρβάρως ὀνομάζομεν ὡς καλοῦντες αὐτὸν ἐπὶ βοήθειαν, καὶ πειθέσθω μάτην καθʼ ἡμῶν ταῦτα εἰρηκέναι τὸν Κέλσον (ὁ) ἐφιστὰς ὅτι οἱ λοιποὶ τῶν Χριστιανῶν οὐδὲ τοῖς ἐν ταῖς θείαις γραφαῖς κειμένοις ὀνόμασι καὶ τεταγμένοις ἐπὶ τοῦ θεοῦ χρῶνται ἐν ταῖς εὐχαῖς· ἀλλʼ οἱ μὲν Ἕλληνες Ἑλληνικοῖς οἱ δὲ Ῥωμαῖοι Ῥωμαϊκοῖς, καὶ οὕτως ἕκαστος κατὰ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ διάλεκτον εὔχεται τῷ θεῷ καὶ ὑμνεῖ αὐτὸν ὡς δύναται· καὶ ὁ πάσης διαλέκτου κύριος τῶν ἀπὸ πάσης διαλέκτου εὐχομένων ἀκούει ὡς μιᾶς, ἵνʼ οὕτως ὀνομάσω, φωνῆς τῆς κατὰ τὰ σημαινόμενα ἀκούων, δηλουμένης ἐκ τῶν ποικίλων διαλέκτων. οὐ γάρ ἐστιν ὁ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεὸς εἷς τις τῶν κεκληρωμένων διάλεκτόν τινα βάρβαρον ἢ Ἕλληνα καὶ μηκέτι τὰς λοιπὰς ἐπισταμένων ἢ μηκέτι τῶν ἐν ἄλλαις διαλέκτοις λεγόντων φροντίζειν.
Eitʼ epilathomenos hoti Christianois lalei, tois monois tǭ theǭ dia tou Iēsou euchomenois, kai symphyrōn ta heterōn kai alogōs Christianois synaptōn auta phēsin; ean men barbarōs autous onomazę̄ tis, dynamin hexousin, ean de Hellēnikōs ē Rhōmaïkōs, ouketi. deiknytō gar tina hēmeis barbarōs onomazomen hōs kalountes auton epi boētheian, kai peithesthō matēn kathʼ hēmōn tauta eirēkenai ton Kelson (ho) ephistas hoti hoi loipoi tōn Christianōn oude tois en tais theiais graphais keimenois onomasi kai tetagmenois epi tou theou chrōntai en tais euchais; allʼ hoi men Hellēnes Hellēnikois hoi de Rhōmaioi Rhōmaïkois, kai houtōs hekastos kata tēn heautou dialekton euchetai tǭ theǭ kai hymnei auton hōs dynatai; kai ho pasēs dialektou kyrios tōn apo pasēs dialektou euchomenōn akouei hōs mias, hinʼ houtōs onomasō, phōnēs tēs kata ta sēmainomena akouōn, dēloumenēs ek tōn poikilōn dialektōn. ou gar estin ho epi pasi theos heis tis tōn keklērōmenōn dialekton tina barbaron ē Hellēna kai mēketi tas loipas epistamenōn ē mēketi tōn en allais dialektois legontōn phrontizein.
Then, forgetting that he is speaking to Christians, who pray to God alone through Jesus, and mixing up the practices of others and connecting them unreasonably with Christians, he says: “If one names them in a barbarian tongue, they will have power, but if in Greek or Latin, no longer.” Let him show whom we name in a barbarian tongue as calling on him for help; and let him be persuaded that Celsus said these things against us in vain, whoever observes that Christians generally do not even use in their prayers the names found in the divine Scriptures and given to God; but Greeks use Greek names and Romans Latin ones, and so each prays to God and sings his praise in his own language as he can; and the Lord of every language hears those who pray in every language as though hearing one voice, so to speak, in its meaning, expressed in the various languages. For the God over all is not one of those who have been allotted some language, barbarian or Greek, and do not know the others, or do not care for those who speak in other languages.
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Summary: Christians do not invoke powers by barbarian names; each prays to God in his own language, and God, Lord of every language, hears them all as one voice.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.37 (Koetschau 2:252–253; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-37).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.38Koetschau 2:253
Εἶτα μετὰ ταῦτα ἤτοι μηδενὸς ἀκούσας Χριστιανοῦ ἤ τινος ἀπὸ τῶν πολλῶν παρανόμου καὶ ἀπαιδεύτου φησὶ τοὺς Χριστιανοὺς λέγειν· ἰδοὺ παραστὰς τῷ ἀγάλματι τοῦ Διὸς ἢ Ἀπόλλωνος ἢ ὅτου δὴ θεοῦ βλασφημῶ καὶ ῥαπίζω, καὶ οὐδέν με ἀμύνεται. οὐχ ὁρῶν ὅτι ἐν τῇ θείᾳ νομοθεσίᾳ προστέτακται καὶ τὸ „θεοὺς οὐ κακολογήσεις, “ ἵνα μὴ ἐθίζηται ἡμῶν τὸ στόμα ὁντινοῦν κακολογεῖν, ἀκουόντων· „εὐλογεῖτε καὶ μὴ καταρᾶσθε“ καὶ διδασκομένων ὅτι „οἱ λοίδοροι“ „βασιλείαν θεοῦ“ οὐ „κληρονομήσουσι.“ τίς δʼ οὕτως ἐν ἡμῖν ἠλίθιος. ὡς ταῦτα λέγειν καὶ μὴ ὁρᾶν ὅτι οὐδὲν δύναται τὸ τοιοῦτο πρὸς καθαίρεσιν τῆς περὶ τῶν νομιζομένων θεῶν ὑπολήψεως; ὅπου γε καὶ οἱ πάντῃ ἄθεοι καὶ τὴν πρόνοιαν ἀνελόντες καὶ σύστημα νομιζομένων φιλοσόφων διὰ τῶν μοχθηρῶν δογμάτων καὶ ἀσεβῶν γεννήσαντες οὔτʼ αὐτοί (τι) πεπόνθασιν ὧν οἱ πολλοὶ νομίζουσι κακῶν οὔθʼ οἱ τὰ ἐκείνων ἀσπασάμενοι δόγματα, ἀλλὰ γὰρ καὶ πλουτοῦσι καὶ ὑγιαίνουσι τὰ σώματα. εἰ δὲ βλάβην τις ζητεῖ ἐν ἐκείνοις, ὁράτω ὅτι ἀληθῶς εἰσιν οἱ βεβλαμμένοι. ποία γὰρ μείζων βλάβη τοῦ μὴ νοεῖν ἀπὸ τῆς τάξεως τοῦ κόσμου τὸν πεποιηκότα; ποία δὲ χείρων ταλαιπωρία τοῦ τετυφλῶσθαι τὸν νοῦν καὶ μὴ βλέπειν τὸν παντὸς νοῦ δημιουργὸν καὶ πατέρα;
Eita meta tauta ētoi mēdenos akousas Christianou ē tinos apo tōn pollōn paranomou kai apaideutou phēsi tous Christianous legein; idou parastas tǭ agalmati tou Dios ē Apollōnos ē hotou dē theou blasphēmō kai rhapizō, kai ouden me amynetai. ouch horōn hoti en tę̄ theią nomothesią prostetaktai kai to „theous ou kakologēseis, “ hina mē ethizētai hēmōn to stoma hontinoun kakologein, akouontōn; „eulogeite kai mē katarasthe“ kai didaskomenōn hoti „hoi loidoroi“ „basileian theou“ ou „klēronomēsousi.“ tis dʼ houtōs en hēmin ēlithios. hōs tauta legein kai mē horan hoti ouden dynatai to toiouto pros kathairesin tēs peri tōn nomizomenōn theōn hypolēpseōs? hopou ge kai hoi pantę̄ atheoi kai tēn pronoian anelontes kai systēma nomizomenōn philosophōn dia tōn mochthērōn dogmatōn kai asebōn gennēsantes outʼ autoi (ti) peponthasin hōn hoi polloi nomizousi kakōn outhʼ hoi ta ekeinōn aspasamenoi dogmata, alla gar kai ploutousi kai hygiainousi ta sōmata. ei de blabēn tis zētei en ekeinois, horatō hoti alēthōs eisin hoi beblammenoi. poia gar meizōn blabē tou mē noein apo tēs taxeōs tou kosmou ton pepoiēkota? poia de cheirōn talaipōria tou tetyphlōsthai ton noun kai mē blepein ton pantos nou dēmiourgon kai patera?
Then after this, either having heard no Christian at all, or some lawless and uneducated one among the many, he says that Christians say: “Look, I stand beside the statue of Zeus or Apollo or any god you like, and I blaspheme it and strike it, and it does not avenge itself on me.” He does not see that in the divine legislation it is also commanded, “You shall not revile gods,” so that our mouth may not grow used to reviling anyone, since we hear, “Bless and do not curse,” and are taught that “revilers” will not “inherit the kingdom of God.” And who among us is so foolish as to say such things and not see that such conduct can do nothing to overthrow the belief in those considered gods? For even those who are utter atheists, who deny providence and by their wicked and impious doctrines have produced a school of supposed philosophers, have themselves suffered none of what the many think evils, nor have those who embraced their doctrines, but they are even rich and healthy in body. And if one seeks harm among them, let him see that they are truly the ones who have been harmed. For what greater harm is there than not to perceive the Maker from the order of the world? And what worse misery than to be blinded in mind and not to see the Creator and Father of every mind?
Exod 22:28 (22:27 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 12:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 6:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:20 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: Celsus imagines Christians mocking statues, but God's law forbids reviling even the gods; the real harm to atheists who deny providence is not bodily but blindness to the Creator.
- The quotations are Exod 22:28 (22:27 LXX), Rom 12:14, and 1 Cor 6:10. The “utter atheists” who deny providence are the Epicureans.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.38 (Koetschau 2:253; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-38).
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8.39Koetschau 2:253–254
Περιθεὶς δʼ ἡμῖν τοιούτους λόγους καὶ συκοφαντῶν Χριστιανοὺς, οὐ λέγοντας τὰ τοιαῦτα, ἑαυτῷ ἀπολογίαν πορίζειν νομίζει, παίγνιον μᾶλλον ἢ ἀπολογίαν τυγχάνουσαν, ἐν ᾗ φησιν ὡς πρὸς ἡμᾶς· οὐχ ὁρᾷς οὖν, ὦ βέλτιστε, ὅτι καὶ τὸν σὸν δαίμονα καταστάς τις οὐ βλασφημεῖ μόνον ἀλλὰ καὶ πάσης γῆς καὶ θαλάσσης ἐκκηρύττει καὶ σὲ τὸν καθωσιωμένον ὥσπερ ἄγαλμα αὐτῷ δήσας ἀπάγει καὶ ἀνασκολοπίζει· καὶ ὁ δαίμων ἢ, ὡς σὺ φῂς, ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ παῖς οὐδὲν αὐτὸν ἀμύνεται; χώραν δʼ εἶχεν ἡ ἀπολογία αὕτη, εἰ τοιούτοις λόγοις, ὁποίους ἡμᾶς ἀνέγραψε λέγοντας, ἐχρώμεθα· καίτοι γε οὐδʼ οὕτως ἀληθῆ ἔλεγε, δαίμονα εἰπὼν τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ θεοῦ. κατὰ μὲν οὖν ἡμᾶς, τοὺς λέγοντας πάντας δαίμονας εἶναι φαύλους, οὐ δαίμων ὁ τοὺς τοσούσδε ἐπιστρέψας πρὸς τὸν θεὸν ἀλλὰ θεὸς λόγος καὶ θεοῦ παῖς· κατὰ δὲ Κέλσον, μηδὲν ἐμφήναντα περὶ φαύλων δαιμόνων οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅπως ἐπιλαθόμενον ἑαυτοῦ, δαίμων ὁ Ἰησοῦς εἴρηται. ὕστερον μέντοι γε τὰ λεγόμενα περὶ τῶν ἀσεβῶν φθάσει μετὰ πάντα τὰ φάρμακα, ἅπερ οὐ προσήκαντο, ἐπὶ τοὺς καταλαμβανομένους ἐν τῇ, ὡς ἂν εἴποι τις, ἀνιάτῳ κακίᾳ.
Peritheis dʼ hēmin toioutous logous kai sykophantōn Christianous, ou legontas ta toiauta, heautǭ apologian porizein nomizei, paignion mallon ē apologian tynchanousan, en hę̄ phēsin hōs pros hēmas; ouch horąs oun, ō beltiste, hoti kai ton son daimona katastas tis ou blasphēmei monon alla kai pasēs gēs kai thalassēs ekkēryttei kai se ton kathōsiōmenon hōsper agalma autǭ dēsas apagei kai anaskolopizei; kai ho daimōn ē, hōs sy phę̄s, ho tou theou pais ouden auton amynetai? chōran dʼ eichen hē apologia hautē, ei toioutois logois, hopoious hēmas anegrapse legontas, echrōmetha; kaitoi ge oudʼ houtōs alēthē elege, daimona eipōn ton huion tou theou. kata men oun hēmas, tous legontas pantas daimonas einai phaulous, ou daimōn ho tous tosousde epistrepsas pros ton theon alla theos logos kai theou pais; kata de Kelson, mēden emphēnanta peri phaulōn daimonōn ouk oidʼ hopōs epilathomenon heautou, daimōn ho Iēsous eirētai. hysteron mentoi ge ta legomena peri tōn asebōn phthasei meta panta ta pharmaka, haper ou prosēkanto, epi tous katalambanomenous en tę̄, hōs an eipoi tis, aniatǭ kakią.
Having attributed such words to us and slandered Christians, who do not say such things, he thinks he provides himself with a defence, which is rather a joke than a defence, where he says as though to us: “Do you not see, then, my good man, that someone even stands up to your demon and not only blasphemes him but banishes him from every land and sea, and binds you, who are dedicated to him like a statue, leads you away and impales you; and the demon, or, as you say, the Son of God, does not avenge himself on him at all?” This defence would have had force if we used such words as he recorded us as saying; and even so he would not have spoken the truth in calling the Son of God a demon. On our view, since we say that all demons are wicked, the one who has turned so many to God is not a demon but God the Word and God's Son; but according to Celsus, who has said nothing about wicked demons, Jesus has been called a demon, I do not know how, as though he had forgotten himself. Later, however, what is said about the impious will come, after all the remedies which they did not accept, upon those found in what one might call incurable wickedness.
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Summary: Celsus retorts that Christ's persecutors go unpunished; Origen says the retort fails, since Christians do not mock statues, Christ is God's Word and not a demon, and judgment will come on the incurably wicked in due time.
Topics: Persecution, Christology, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.39 (Koetschau 2:253–254; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-39).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.40Koetschau 2:254–255
Καὶ ἡμεῖς μὲν ὅ τι ποτὲ περὶ κολάσεως λέγοντες καὶ διὰ τῆς περὶ κολάσεως διδασκαλίας πολλοὺς ἀπὸ τῶν ἁμαρτημάτων ἐπιστρέφομεν· ὁ δὲ κατὰ τὸν Κέλσον ἱερεὺς τοῦ Ἀπόλλωνος ἢ τοῦ Διὸς οἷα ἀποκρίνεται, κατανοήσωμεν· ὀψὲ, φησὶ, θεῶν ἀλέουσι μύλοι, καὶ ἐς παίδων παῖδας, τοί κεν μετόπισθε γένωνται. ὅρα δὲ ὅσῳ τούτου βέλτιον τὸ „οὐκ ἀποθανοῦνται πατέρες ὑπὲρ τέκνων, οὐδὲ υἱοὶ ἀποθανοῦνται ὑπὲρ πατέρων· ἕκαστος τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ ἑαυτοῦ ἀποθανεῖται“ καὶ τοῦτο „τοῦ φαγόντος τὸν ὄμφακα αἱμωδιάσουσιν οἱ ὀδόντες αὐτοῦ“ καὶ τὸ „υἱὸς οὐ λήψεται ἀδικίαν πατρὸς, καὶ πατὴρ οὐ λήψεται ἀδικίαν υἱοῦ· δικαιοσύνη δικαίου ἐπʼ αὐτὸν ἔσται, καὶ ἀνομία ἀνόμου ἐπʼ αὐτὸν ἔσται.“ ἐὰν δέ τις ὅμοιον εἶναι λέγῃ τῷ ἐς παίδων παῖδας, τοί κεν μετόπισθε γένωνται τὸ „ἀποδιδοὺς ἁμαρτίας πατέρων ἐπὶ τέκνα ἐπὶ τρίτην καὶ τετάρτην γενεὰν τοῖς μισοῦσί (με), “ μαθέτω ὅτι ἐν τῷ Ἰεζεκιὴλ „παραβολὴ“ τὸ τοιοῦτον εἶναι λέλεκται, αἰτιωμένῳ τοὺς λέγοντας· „οἱ πατέρες ἔφαγον ὄμφακα, καὶ οἱ ὀδόντες τῶν τέκνων ᾑμωδίασαν, “ ᾧ ἐπιφέρεται· „ζῶ ἐγὼ, λέγει κύριος, “ „ἀλλʼ ἢ ἕκαστος τῇ ἑαυτοῦ ἁμαρτίᾳ ἀποθανεῖται.“ οὐ κατὰ τὸν παρόντα δὲ καιρόν ἐστι διηγήσασθαι, τί σημαίνει ἡ περὶ τοῦ „(ἐπὶ) τρίτην καὶ τετάρτην γενεὰν“ ἀποδίδοσθαι τὰς „ἁμαρτίας“ παραβολή.
Kai hēmeis men ho ti pote peri kolaseōs legontes kai dia tēs peri kolaseōs didaskalias pollous apo tōn hamartēmatōn epistrephomen; ho de kata ton Kelson hiereus tou Apollōnos ē tou Dios hoia apokrinetai, katanoēsōmen; opse, phēsi, theōn aleousi myloi, kai es paidōn paidas, toi ken metopisthe genōntai. hora de hosǭ toutou beltion to „ouk apothanountai pateres hyper teknōn, oude huioi apothanountai hyper paterōn; hekastos tę̄ hamartią heautou apothaneitai“ kai touto „tou phagontos ton omphaka haimōdiasousin hoi odontes autou“ kai to „huios ou lēpsetai adikian patros, kai patēr ou lēpsetai adikian huiou; dikaiosynē dikaiou epʼ auton estai, kai anomia anomou epʼ auton estai.“ ean de tis homoion einai legę̄ tǭ es paidōn paidas, toi ken metopisthe genōntai to „apodidous hamartias paterōn epi tekna epi tritēn kai tetartēn genean tois misousi (me), “ mathetō hoti en tǭ Iezekiēl „parabolē“ to toiouton einai lelektai, aitiōmenǭ tous legontas; „hoi pateres ephagon omphaka, kai hoi odontes tōn teknōn hę̄mōdiasan, “ hǭ epipheretai; „zō egō, legei kyrios, “ „allʼ ē hekastos tę̄ heautou hamartią apothaneitai.“ ou kata ton paronta de kairon esti diēgēsasthai, ti sēmainei hē peri tou „(epi) tritēn kai tetartēn genean“ apodidosthai tas „hamartias“ parabolē.
And we, whatever we say about punishment, turn many from their sins through the teaching about punishment; but let us consider what answers the priest of Apollo or of Zeus, according to Celsus, gives: “Late,” he says, “grind the mills of the gods,” and “to children's children, who shall be born hereafter.” See how much better than this are “Fathers shall not die for children, nor shall sons die for fathers; each shall die for his own sin,” and this, “The teeth of him who eats the sour grape shall be set on edge,” and “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, nor shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the lawlessness of the lawless shall be upon him.” And if anyone says that “to children's children, who shall be born hereafter” is like “visiting the sins of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,” let him learn that in Ezekiel this is called a “proverb,” since he blames those who say, “The fathers ate sour grapes, and the children's teeth were set on edge,” to which is added, “As I live, says the Lord,” “but each shall die for his own sin.” It is not the present occasion to explain what the proverb about the “sins” being visited “to the third and fourth generation” means.
Deut 24:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 31:30 (38:30 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 18:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ezek 18:2–4 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Celsus's pagan priests threaten that the gods punish descendants late; Scripture teaches better, through Ezekiel and Deuteronomy, that each person dies for his own sin.
- The quotations are a proverb, “the mills of the gods grind late” (in Sextus Empiricus, Against the Mathematicians 1.287, and elsewhere), Homer, Iliad 20.308, Deut 24:16, Jer 31:30 (38:30 LXX), Ezek 18:20, Exod 20:5, and Ezek 18:2–4.
Extrabiblical texts: Homer, Il. 20.308 (Homer, Iliad; quotation)
Topics: Eschatology, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.40 (Koetschau 2:254–255; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-40).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.41Koetschau 2:255–256
Εἶτα ὡς αἱ γρᾶες διαλοιδορούμενος ἡμῖν φησι· σὺ μὲν τὰ ἀγάλματα τούτων λοιδορῶν καταγελᾷς. ὡς αὐτόν γε τὸν Διόνυσον ἢ τὸν Ἡρακλέα παρόντα εἰ ἐλοιδόρησας, οὐκ ἂν ἴσως χαίρων ἀπήλλαξας· τὸν δὲ σὸν θεὸν παρόντα κατατείνοντες καὶ κολάζοντες οὐδὲν οἱ ταῦτα δράσαντες πεπόνθασιν ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ μετὰ ταῦτα ἐν τοσούτῳ βίῳ. τί καινὸν ἐξ ἐκείνου γέγονε τῷ πιστεύσαντι ἂν ὡς οὐκ ἦν ἐκεῖνος ἄνθρωπος γόης ἀλλὰ θεοῦ παῖς; καὶ ὁ πέμψας ἄρα τὸν υἱὸν ἀγγελμάτων τινῶν εἵνεκα οὕτως ὠμῶς κολασθέντα, ὡς συνδιαφθεῖραι καὶ τὰ ἀγγέλματα, περιεῖδε καὶ τοσούτου χρόνου διελθόντος οὐκ ἐπεστράφη. τίς οὕτως ἀνόσιος πατήρ; ἐκεῖνος μὲν οὖν τυχὸν ἐβούλετο, ὡς φῂς, διὰ τοῦτο περιϋβρίζετο. οἵδε δὲ, οὓς σὺ βλασφημεῖς, ἐνῆν μὲν εἰπεῖν ὅτι καὶ αὐτοὶ βούλονται καὶ διὰ τοῦτʼ ἀνέχονται βλασφημούμενοι· τὰ γὰρ ἴσα τοῖς ἴσοις παραβαλεῖν κράτιστον· ἀλλʼ οὗτοί γε καὶ σφόδρα ἀμύνονται τὸν βλασφημοῦντα, ἤτοι φεύγοντα διὰ τοῦτο καὶ κρυπτόμενον ἢ ἁλισκόμενον καὶ ἀπολλύμενον. καὶ πρὸς ταῦτα δʼ εἴποιμʼ ἂν ὅτι ἡμεῖς οὐδενὶ λοιδορούμεθα, πειθόμενοι ὅτι „λοίδοροι“ „βασιλείαν θεοῦ“ οὐ „κληρονομήσουσι, “ καὶ ἀναγινώσκοντες τὸ „εὐλογεῖτε τοὺς καταρωμένους ὑμῖν“ (καὶ) „εὐλογεῖτε καὶ μὴ καταρᾶσθε.“ εἰδότες δὲ καὶ τὸ „λοιδορούμενοι εὐλογοῦμεν.“ καὶ εἴπερ τὸ λοιδορεῖν λόγον τινὰ ἔχει ἀμυντικὸν τοῦ δοκοῦντος ἠδικῆσθαι, καὶ οὐδὲ τοῦτον ἐπιτρέπει ἡμῖν ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ λόγος· πόσῳ πλέον, ἔνθα πολλὴν ἠλιθιότητα ἐμφαίνει τὸ λοιδορεῖν, οὐ χρὴ λοιδορεῖν; ἐπʼ ἴσης δὲ ἠλίθιον τὸ λοιδορεῖσθαι λίθῳ ἢ χρυσῷ ἢ ἀργύρῳ, τοῖς μεμορφωμένοις εἰς τὴν νενομισμένην τοῖς μακρὰν θειότητος τυγχάνουσι θεῶν μορφήν. οὕτω δὲ οὐδὲ καταγελῶμεν τῶν ἀψύχων ξοάνων ἀλλʼ εἰ ἄρα τῶν προσκυνούντων αὐτοῖς. ἀλλʼ οὐδʼ, ἂν ὦσί τινες δαίμονες ἐνιδρυμένοι τισὶν ἀγάλμασι, καὶ νομίζηται ὁ μέν τις αὐτῶν εἶναι Διόνυσος ὁ δʼ Ἡρακλῆς, οὐδὲ τούτοις λοιδορούμεθα· μάταιον γὰρ τὸ τοιοῦτον καὶ οὐδαμῶς κατὰ τὸν πρᾷον καὶ εἰρηναῖον καὶ γαληνὸν τὴν ψυχὴν καὶ μαθόντα ὅτι οὐδὲ διὰ τὴν κακίαν δεῖ τινι λοιδορεῖσθαι, εἴτʼ ἀνθρώπῳ εἴτε δαίμονι.
Eita hōs hai graes dialoidoroumenos hēmin phēsi; sy men ta agalmata toutōn loidorōn katageląs. hōs auton ge ton Dionyson ē ton Hēraklea paronta ei eloidorēsas, ouk an isōs chairōn apēllaxas; ton de son theon paronta katateinontes kai kolazontes ouden hoi tauta drasantes peponthasin allʼ oude meta tauta en tosoutǭ biǭ. ti kainon ex ekeinou gegone tǭ pisteusanti an hōs ouk ēn ekeinos anthrōpos goēs alla theou pais? kai ho pempsas ara ton huion angelmatōn tinōn heineka houtōs ōmōs kolasthenta, hōs syndiaphtheirai kai ta angelmata, perieide kai tosoutou chronou dielthontos ouk epestraphē. tis houtōs anosios patēr? ekeinos men oun tychon ebouleto, hōs phę̄s, dia touto periÿbrizeto. hoide de, hous sy blasphēmeis, enēn men eipein hoti kai autoi boulontai kai dia toutʼ anechontai blasphēmoumenoi; ta gar isa tois isois parabalein kratiston; allʼ houtoi ge kai sphodra amynontai ton blasphēmounta, ētoi pheugonta dia touto kai kryptomenon ē haliskomenon kai apollymenon. kai pros tauta dʼ eipoimʼ an hoti hēmeis oudeni loidoroumetha, peithomenoi hoti „loidoroi“ „basileian theou“ ou „klēronomēsousi, “ kai anaginōskontes to „eulogeite tous katarōmenous hymin“ (kai) „eulogeite kai mē katarasthe.“ eidotes de kai to „loidoroumenoi eulogoumen.“ kai eiper to loidorein logon tina echei amyntikon tou dokountos ēdikēsthai, kai oude touton epitrepei hēmin ho tou theou logos; posǭ pleon, entha pollēn ēlithiotēta emphainei to loidorein, ou chrē loidorein? epʼ isēs de ēlithion to loidoreisthai lithǭ ē chrysǭ ē argyrǭ, tois memorphōmenois eis tēn nenomismenēn tois makran theiotētos tynchanousi theōn morphēn. houtō de oude katagelōmen tōn apsychōn xoanōn allʼ ei ara tōn proskynountōn autois. allʼ oudʼ, an ōsi tines daimones enidrymenoi tisin agalmasi, kai nomizētai ho men tis autōn einai Dionysos ho dʼ Hēraklēs, oude toutois loidoroumetha; mataion gar to toiouton kai oudamōs kata ton prąon kai eirēnaion kai galēnon tēn psychēn kai mathonta hoti oude dia tēn kakian dei tini loidoreisthai, eitʼ anthrōpǭ eite daimoni.
Then, reviling us like old women, he says: “You mock their images as you revile them; but if you had reviled Dionysus himself or Heracles in person, perhaps you would not have got off lightly. But those who stretched out and punished your god in person have suffered nothing, not even afterwards in all this time. What new thing has happened since then to make one believe that he was not a sorcerer of a man but a son of God? And he who sent his son with certain messages, when he was so cruelly punished that the messages perished with him, looked on and has not turned to him in all the time that has passed. What father is so unholy? Perhaps, as you say, he wished it, and that is why he was treated with outrage. But these whom you blaspheme, one could say that they too wish it and that is why they endure being blasphemed; for it is best to compare like with like. But these at least take severe vengeance on the blasphemer, who either flees and hides for this reason, or is caught and destroyed.” To this too I would say that we revile no one, since we believe that “revilers” will not “inherit the kingdom of God,” and read, “Bless those who curse you,” and “Bless and do not curse,” and know also, “When reviled, we bless.” And if reviling has some justification as a defence for one who thinks he has been wronged, even this the Word of God does not allow us; how much more, where reviling shows great foolishness, must we not revile? It is equally foolish to revile stone or gold or silver, shaped into the form of gods customary among those far from divinity. So too we do not mock lifeless statues, but, if anything, those who worship them. And even if there are some demons established in certain statues, and one of them is thought to be Dionysus and another Heracles, we do not revile these either; for such a thing is vain and in no way befits one who is gentle, peaceable, and calm in soul, and who has learned that one must not revile anyone even for wickedness, whether man or demon.
1 Cor 6:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 6:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 12:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:12 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Celsus taunts that the gods punish blasphemers while Jesus' executioners went unpunished and his Father abandoned him; Origen answers that Christians revile no one, not even statues or demons.
- The quotations are 1 Cor 6:10, Luke 6:28, Rom 12:14, and 1 Cor 4:12.
Topics: Ethics, Christology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.41 (Koetschau 2:255–256; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-41).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.42Koetschau 2:256–257
Οὐκ οἶδα δʼ ὅπως ὁ Κέλσος ἄκων ἐνέπεσεν εἰς τὸ, οὓς πρὸ βραχέος ὕμνησε δαίμονας ἢ θεοὺς, νῦν τῷ ἔργῳ ἀποδεικνύναι φαυλοτάτους εἶναι καὶ τιμωρουμένους μᾶλλον ἀμυντικῶς ἤπερ κολάζοντας διορθωτικῶς, ἐπὰν αὐτοῖς λοιδορῆταί τις. φησὶ γάρ· ὡς αὐτόν γε τὸν Διόνυσον ἢ τὸν Ἡρακλέα παρόντα εἰ ἐλοιδόρησας, οὐκ ἂν ἴσως χαίρων ἀπήλλαξας. πῶς δὲ καὶ ἀκούει τι οὐ παρὼν, ὁ βουλόμενος παραστησάτω, καὶ διὰ τί ποτὲ μὲν πάρεστι ποτὲ δὲ οὐ πάρεστι, καὶ τίς ἡ πραγματεία τοῖς δαίμοσι τῆς μεταναστάσεως ἀπὸ τόπου εἰς τόπον. ἑξῆς δὲ τούτοις λέγει, οἰόμενος τὸ κατατεινόμενον καὶ κολαζόμενον σῶμα τοῦ Ἰησοῦ καὶ οὐ τὴν ἐν αὐτῷ θειότητα θεὸν ἡμᾶς λέγειν καὶ, ὅτε κατετείνετο καὶ ἐκολάζετο, θεὸν νενομίσθαι, ὅτι τὸν δὲ σὸν θεὸν παρόντα κατατείνοντες καὶ κολάζοντες οὐδὲν οἱ ταῦτα δράσαντες πεπόνθασι. πλείονα δὲ περὶ ὧν πέπονθεν ἀνθρωπίνων ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω εἰπόντες νῦν ἑκόντες παραπέμπομεν τὸν λόγον. ἵνα μὴ δοκῶμεν παλιλλογεῖν. ἐπεὶ δέ φησι μηδὲ μετὰ ταῦτα ἐν τοσούτῳ βίῳ πεπονθέναι τι τούτους τὸν Ἰησοῦν κολάσαντας, δείξομεν αὐτῷ καὶ πᾶσι τοῖς βουλομένοις μαθεῖν ὅτι ἡ πόλις. ἐν ᾗ ὁ τῶν Ἰουδαίων λεὼς ἠξίωσε τὸν Ἰησοῦν σταυρωθῆναι λέγων· „σταύρου. σταύρου αὐτὸν“ (προὐτιμήσαντο (γὰρ) τὸν λῃστὴν „διὰ στάσιν καὶ φόνον“ βληθέντα „εἰς φυλακὴν“ ἀπολυθῆναι τοῦτον. „τὸν δὲ Ἰησοῦν“ „διὰ φθόνον“ παραδοθέντα (σταυρωθῆναι)). μετʼ οὐ πολὺ ἐξεπολεμήθη καὶ ἐπὶ τοσοῦτον ἐπολιορκήθη χρόνῳ πλείονι, ὥστʼ ἐκ βάθρων αὐτὴν ἀνάστατον γενέσθαι καὶ ἐρημωθῆναι. ἀναξίους κρίνοντος τοὺς τὸν τόπον ἐκεῖνον οἰκοῦντας τοῦ θεοῦ τῆς κοινοτέρας ζωῆς. καὶ φειδόμενός γε αὐτῶν, ἵνα παραδόξως εἴπω, καὶ ὁρῶν ἀνιάτως ἔχοντας πρὸς τὴν ἐπὶ τὸ κρεῖττον μεταβολὴν καὶ ὁσημέραι αὔξοντας ἐν τῇ τῆς κακίας χύσει παρέδωκεν αὐτοὺς τοῖς πολεμοῦσι. καὶ ταῦτα γέγονε διὰ τὸ ἐκχυθὲν αἷμα τοῦ Ἰησοῦ κατὰ τὴν ἐπιβουλὴν αὐτῶν ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν αὐτῶν, μηκέτι δυναμένην χωρεῖν τοὺς τὸ τηλικοῦτον ἄγος κατὰ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ τολμήσαντας.
Ouk oida dʼ hopōs ho Kelsos akōn enepesen eis to, hous pro bracheos hymnēse daimonas ē theous, nyn tǭ ergǭ apodeiknynai phaulotatous einai kai timōroumenous mallon amyntikōs ēper kolazontas diorthōtikōs, epan autois loidorētai tis. phēsi gar; hōs auton ge ton Dionyson ē ton Hēraklea paronta ei eloidorēsas, ouk an isōs chairōn apēllaxas. pōs de kai akouei ti ou parōn, ho boulomenos parastēsatō, kai dia ti pote men paresti pote de ou paresti, kai tis hē pragmateia tois daimosi tēs metanastaseōs apo topou eis topon. hexēs de toutois legei, oiomenos to katateinomenon kai kolazomenon sōma tou Iēsou kai ou tēn en autǭ theiotēta theon hēmas legein kai, hote kateteineto kai ekolazeto, theon nenomisthai, hoti ton de son theon paronta katateinontes kai kolazontes ouden hoi tauta drasantes peponthasi. pleiona de peri hōn peponthen anthrōpinōn en tois anōterō eipontes nyn hekontes parapempomen ton logon. hina mē dokōmen palillogein. epei de phēsi mēde meta tauta en tosoutǭ biǭ peponthenai ti toutous ton Iēsoun kolasantas, deixomen autǭ kai pasi tois boulomenois mathein hoti hē polis. en hę̄ ho tōn Ioudaiōn leōs ēxiōse ton Iēsoun staurōthēnai legōn; „staurou. staurou auton“ (proutimēsanto (gar) ton lę̄stēn „dia stasin kai phonon“ blēthenta „eis phylakēn“ apolythēnai touton. „ton de Iēsoun“ „dia phthonon“ paradothenta (staurōthēnai)). metʼ ou poly exepolemēthē kai epi tosouton epoliorkēthē chronǭ pleioni, hōstʼ ek bathrōn autēn anastaton genesthai kai erēmōthēnai. anaxious krinontos tous ton topon ekeinon oikountas tou theou tēs koinoteras zōēs. kai pheidomenos ge autōn, hina paradoxōs eipō, kai horōn aniatōs echontas pros tēn epi to kreitton metabolēn kai hosēmerai auxontas en tę̄ tēs kakias chysei paredōken autous tois polemousi. kai tauta gegone dia to ekchythen haima tou Iēsou kata tēn epiboulēn autōn epi tēn gēn autōn, mēketi dynamenēn chōrein tous to tēlikouton agos kata tou Iēsou tolmēsantas.
I do not know how Celsus unwittingly fell into showing, in fact, that the demons or gods he praised a little before are most wicked, and take vengeance in retaliation rather than punish for correction, whenever someone reviles them. For he says: “If you had reviled Dionysus himself or Heracles in person, perhaps you would not have got off lightly.” Let whoever wishes explain how one who is not present hears anything, and why he is sometimes present and sometimes not, and what business the demons have in moving from place to place. Next he says, thinking that we call God the body of Jesus that was stretched out and punished, and not the divinity in him, and that he was considered God when he was stretched out and punished: “But those who stretched out and punished your god in person have suffered nothing.” Having said a good deal above about the human sufferings he underwent, we now willingly pass over the subject, so as not to seem to repeat ourselves. But since he says that those who punished Jesus suffered nothing afterwards in all this time, we shall show him and all who wish to learn that the city in which the Jewish people demanded that Jesus be crucified, saying, “Crucify, crucify him” (for they preferred that the robber cast “into prison for insurrection and murder” be released, and that “Jesus,” handed over “out of envy,” be crucified), not long afterwards was attacked and besieged for so long a time that it was overthrown from its foundations and made desolate, since God judged those who lived in that place unworthy of the common life of men. And, to speak paradoxically, sparing them, and seeing them incurable as regards a change for the better and growing daily in the flood of wickedness, he handed them over to their enemies. This happened because of the blood of Jesus shed on their land by their plotting, a land which could no longer hold those who had dared so great a crime against Jesus.
Luke 23:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 19:43–44 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Celsus's vengeful gods prove wicked; and it is false that Jesus' killers went unpunished, since Jerusalem, where he was condemned, was soon besieged and destroyed.
- The quotations are Luke 23:21, Luke 23:19, 25, and Matt 27:18. Origen refers to the Roman siege and destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. His interpretation of it as judgment on the Jewish people for the crucifixion is translated as written; it reflects a common early Christian view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (missing letter in the digital text): κολζόμενον → κολαζόμενον.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.42 (Koetschau 2:256–257; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-42).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.43Koetschau 2:257–258
Καινὸν οὖν γέγονεν, ἐξ οὗ πέπονθε χρόνου ὁ Ἰησοῦς, κἀκεῖνο, λέγω δὲ τὸ κατὰ τὴν πόλιν καὶ πᾶν τὸ κατὰ τὸ ἔθνος καὶ τὸ κατὰ τὴν ἀθρόαν γένεσιν ἔθνους Χριστιανῶν ὡσπερεὶ τεχθέντος εἰσάπαξ· καινὸν δὲ καὶ τὸ τοὺς ξένους „τῶν διαθηκῶν“ τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἀλλοτρίους τῶν ἐπαγγελιῶν τοὺς μακρὰν τῆς ἀληθείας δυνάμει τινὶ θείᾳ παραδέχεσθαι αὐτήν. ταῦτα δὲ οὐκ ἀνθρώπου γόητος ἦν ἀλλʼ ἔργα θεοῦ, πέμψαντος τῶν αὑτοῦ ἀγγελμάτων ἕνεκα τὸν αὑτοῦ ἐν τῷ Ἰησοῦ λόγον, (οὕτως) ὠμῶς κολασθέντι, ὡς τὴν ὠμότητα κατηγορεῖσθαι τῶν ἀδίκως αὐτὸν κολασάντων, καὶ ἀνδρειότατα ὑπομείναντα καὶ μετὰ πάσης πρᾳότητος· οὐ διέφθειρε δὲ ἡ κόλασις αὐτοῦ τὰ τοῦ θεοῦ ἀγγέλματα ἀλλʼ, εἰ δεῖ οὕτως ὀνομάσαι, εἰς γνῶσιν αὐτὰ ἤγαγεν· ὡς καὶ αὐτὸς ἐδίδαξεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς λέγων· „ἐὰν μὴ ὁ κόκκος τοῦ σίτου πεσὼν εἰς τὴν γῆν ἀποθάνῃ, αὐτὸς μόνος μένει· ἐὰν δὲ ἀποθάνῃ, πολὺν καρπὸν φέρει.“ ἀποθανὼν οὖν „ὁ κόκκος τοῦ σίτου“ Ἰησοῦς „πολὺν καρπὸν“ ἤνεγκε, καὶ ἀεὶ ὁ πατὴρ προνοεῖ τῶν ἐκ τοῦ θανάτου τοῦ κόκκου „τοῦ σίτου“ γεγενημένων καὶ γινομένων ἔτι καὶ ἐσομένων καρπῶν. ὅσιος οὖν πατὴρ ὁ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ πατὴρ, „τοῦ ἰδίου“ μὴ φεισάμενος „υἱοῦ“ „ἀλλʼ ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν πάντων“ παραδοὺς „αὐτὸν“ ἀμνὸν ὄντα ἑαυτοῦ. ἵνʼ ἄρῃ „τὴν ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου“ ὁ ὑπὲρ παντὸς αὐτοῦ ἀποθνῄσκων „ἀμνὸς θεοῦ“· διʼ ὃν οὐκ ἀναγκαζόμενος ἀλλʼ ἑκὼν ὑπέμεινε τὰ ἀπὸ τῶν ὑβριστῶν αὐτῷ προσαγόμενα. εἶτα μετὰ ταῦτα ὁ Κέλσος, ἐπαναλαμβάνων τὸν πρὸς τοὺς βλασφημοῦντας τὰ ἀγάλματα λόγον, φησίν· οἵδε δὲ, οὓς σὺ βλασφημεῖς, ἐνῆν μὲν εἰπεῖν ὅτι καὶ αὐτοὶ βούλονται (καὶ) διὰ τοῦτʼ ἀνέχονται βλασφημούμενοι· τὰ γὰρ ἴσα τοῖς ἴσοις παραβαλεῖν κράτιστον· ἀλλʼ οὗτοί γε καὶ σφόδρα ἀμύνονται τὸν βλασφημοῦντα, ἤτοι γε φεύγοντα διὰ τοῦτο καὶ κρυπτόμενον ἢ ἁλισκόμενον καὶ ἀπολλύμενον. οὐ βλασφημοῦντας οὖν ἀλλʼ ἀπελαύνοντας ἀπὸ τῶν ξοάνων καὶ τῶν ἀνθρωπίνων σωμάτων καὶ ψυχῶν Χριστιανοὺς ἀμύνεσθαι νομίζουσιν οἱ δαίμονες. μὴ νοῶν γὰρ τὸ γινόμενον ἀληθές τι κατὰ τὸν τόπον ὁ Κέλσος εἴρηκεν· ἀληθὲς γὰρ τὸ φαύλων δαιμόνων πληρουμένας τὰς τῶν καταδικαζόντων Χριστιανοὺς ψυχὰς καὶ τῶν προδιδόντων καὶ τῶν εὐδοκούντων Χριστιανοῖς προσπολεμεῖν.
Kainon oun gegonen, ex hou peponthe chronou ho Iēsous, kakeino, legō de to kata tēn polin kai pan to kata to ethnos kai to kata tēn athroan genesin ethnous Christianōn hōsperei techthentos eisapax; kainon de kai to tous xenous „tōn diathēkōn“ tou theou kai allotrious tōn epangeliōn tous makran tēs alētheias dynamei tini theią paradechesthai autēn. tauta de ouk anthrōpou goētos ēn allʼ erga theou, pempsantos tōn hautou angelmatōn heneka ton hautou en tǭ Iēsou logon, (houtōs) ōmōs kolasthenti, hōs tēn ōmotēta katēgoreisthai tōn adikōs auton kolasantōn, kai andreiotata hypomeinanta kai meta pasēs prąotētos; ou diephtheire de hē kolasis autou ta tou theou angelmata allʼ, ei dei houtōs onomasai, eis gnōsin auta ēgagen; hōs kai autos edidaxen ho Iēsous legōn; „ean mē ho kokkos tou sitou pesōn eis tēn gēn apothanę̄, autos monos menei; ean de apothanę̄, polyn karpon pherei.“ apothanōn oun „ho kokkos tou sitou“ Iēsous „polyn karpon“ ēnenke, kai aei ho patēr pronoei tōn ek tou thanatou tou kokkou „tou sitou“ gegenēmenōn kai ginomenōn eti kai esomenōn karpōn. hosios oun patēr ho tou Iēsou patēr, „tou idiou“ mē pheisamenos „huiou“ „allʼ hyper hēmōn pantōn“ paradous „auton“ amnon onta heautou. hinʼ arę̄ „tēn hamartian tou kosmou“ ho hyper pantos autou apothnę̄skōn „amnos theou“; diʼ hon ouk anankazomenos allʼ hekōn hypemeine ta apo tōn hybristōn autǭ prosagomena. eita meta tauta ho Kelsos, epanalambanōn ton pros tous blasphēmountas ta agalmata logon, phēsin; hoide de, hous sy blasphēmeis, enēn men eipein hoti kai autoi boulontai (kai) dia toutʼ anechontai blasphēmoumenoi; ta gar isa tois isois parabalein kratiston; allʼ houtoi ge kai sphodra amynontai ton blasphēmounta, ētoi ge pheugonta dia touto kai kryptomenon ē haliskomenon kai apollymenon. ou blasphēmountas oun allʼ apelaunontas apo tōn xoanōn kai tōn anthrōpinōn sōmatōn kai psychōn Christianous amynesthai nomizousin hoi daimones. mē noōn gar to ginomenon alēthes ti kata ton topon ho Kelsos eirēken; alēthes gar to phaulōn daimonōn plēroumenas tas tōn katadikazontōn Christianous psychas kai tōn prodidontōn kai tōn eudokountōn Christianois prospolemein.
Something new, then, has happened since the time Jesus suffered: that, I mean, which concerns the city and the whole nation, and the sudden birth of a nation of Christians, born as it were all at once; new too is that the strangers “to the covenants” of God and aliens from the promises, those far from the truth, have received it by a certain divine power. These were not the works of a sorcerer of a man but of God, who sent his Word in Jesus for the sake of his messages, the Word who was so cruelly punished that the cruelty condemns those who punished him unjustly, and who endured most bravely and with all gentleness. His punishment did not destroy God's messages but, if one may put it so, brought them to knowledge; as Jesus himself taught, saying, “Unless the grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.” So Jesus, “the grain of wheat,” having died, bore “much fruit”; and the Father always cares for the fruits that have come, still come, and will come from the death of the grain “of wheat.” The Father of Jesus, then, is a holy father, who did not spare “his own Son,” “but gave him up for us all,” who was his own lamb, so that “the Lamb of God,” dying for the whole world, might take away “the sin of the world”; and for this cause he endured, not under compulsion but willingly, what those who outraged him inflicted. Then after this Celsus, returning to the argument about those who blaspheme the images, says: “But these whom you blaspheme, one could say that they too wish it and that is why they endure being blasphemed; for it is best to compare like with like. But these at least take severe vengeance on the blasphemer, who either flees and hides for this reason, or is caught and destroyed.” It is not Christians who blaspheme them, but Christians who drive them out of statues and human bodies and souls, on whom the demons think they are taking vengeance. For Celsus, not understanding what happens, has said something true here; for it is true that the souls of those who condemn Christians, and of those who betray them, and of those who delight in making war on Christians, are filled with wicked demons.
Eph 2:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 66:8 (echo, medium confidence) · John 12:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:29 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Since Jesus' death a whole new nation of Christians has arisen; like a grain of wheat his death bore much fruit, and the Father gave his Son willingly for the world, while the demons avenge themselves on Christians who expel them.
- The quotations are Eph 2:12, John 12:24, Rom 8:32, and John 1:29. “A nation … born all at once” echoes Isa 66:8.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (missing breathing and accent in the digital text; stray period in the digital text): μετὰ πάσης. πρᾳότητος → μετὰ πάσης πρᾳότητος; εἰ δεῖ ουτως → εἰ δεῖ οὕτως; βλασφημοῦντας ουν → βλασφημοῦντας οὖν.
Topics: Christology, Persecution
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.43 (Koetschau 2:257–258; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-43).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.44Koetschau 2:258–259
Ἀλλʼ ἐπεὶ αἱ ψυχαὶ τῶν διὰ χριστιανισμὸν ἀποθνῃσκόντων διʼ εὐσέβειαν μετʼ εὐκλείας ἀπαλλαττόμεναι τοῦ σώματος καθῄρουν τὴν δύναμιν τῶν δαιμόνων καὶ ἀτονωτέραν αὐτῶν ἐποίουν τὴν κατὰ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἐπιβουλὴν, διὰ τοῦτο οἶμαι τῇ πείρᾳ μαθόντες οἱ δαίμονες ἑαυτοὺς ἡττωμένους καὶ κρατουμένους ὑπὸ τῶν μαρτύρων τῆς ἀληθείας ἐφοβήθησαν πάλιν ἥκειν ἐπὶ τὸ ἀμύνεσθαι· καὶ οὕτως, ἕως ἐπιλάθωνται ὧν πεπόνθασι πόνων, εἰκὸς εἶναι τὴν τοῦ κόσμου πρὸς Χριστιανοὺς εἰρήνην. ἐπὰν δὲ συλλέξωνται τὴν δύναμιν καὶ ὑπὸ τῆς κακίας τυφλούμενοι πάλιν ἀμύνεσθαι θέλωσι καὶ Χριστιανοὺς διώκειν, πάλιν καθαιρεθήσονται· καὶ τότε πάλιν αἱ ψυχαὶ τῶν εὐσεβούντων καὶ διʼ εὐσέβειαν ἀποδυομένων τὰ σώματα καθελοῦσι τὸ τοῦ πονηροῦ στρατόπεδον. ἐγὼ δʼ οἶμαι ὅτι αἰσθόμενοι οἱ δαίμονες ὅτι οἱ μὲν νικῶντες καὶ διʼ εὐσέβειαν ἀποθνῄσκοντες καθαιροῦσιν αὐτῶν τὴν δυναστείαν οἱ δὲ διὰ τοὺς πόνους ἡττώμενοι καὶ τὴν θεοσέβειαν ἀρνούμενοι ὑποχείριοι ἐκείνοις γίνονται, ἔσθʼ ὅτε προσφιλονεικοῦσι τοῖς παραδιδομένοις Χριστιανοῖς, ὡς κολαζόμενοι μὲν ὑπὸ τῆς ὁμολογίας αὐτῶν ἀναπαυόμενοι δὲ ἐπὶ τῇ ἀρνήσει αὐτῶν. καὶ ἔστιν γε τούτων ἴχνη θεάσασθαι καὶ ἐν τοῖς δικασταῖς, κολαζομένοις μὲν ὑπὸ τοῖς ὑπομένουσι τὰς αἰκίας καὶ τὰς βασάνους γαυρουμένοις δὲ, ὅταν Χριστιανὸς ἡττηθῇ. καὶ γὰρ οὐδὲ διὰ δοκοῦσαν αὐτοῖς φιλανθρωπίαν ταῦτα ποιοῦσι, σαφῶς ὁρῶντες ὅτι „ἡ“ μὲν „γλῶσσα“ τῶν νικωμένων ὑπὸ πόνου ὀμώμοκεν, „ἡ δὲ φρήν“ ἐστιν „ἀνώμοτος“ καὶ ταῦτα δʼ εἰς τὸ ἀλλʼ οὗτοί γε καὶ σφόδρα ἀμύνονται τὸν βλασφημοῦντα, ἤτοι φεύγοντα διὰ τοῦτο καὶ κρυπτόμενον ἢ ἁλισκόμενον καὶ ἀπολλύμενον. κἂν φεύγῃ δέ τις Χριστιανὸς, οὐ διὰ δειλίαν φεύγει. ἀλλὰ τηρῶν ἐντολὴν τοῦ διδασκάλου καὶ ἑαυτὸν φυλάττων καθαρὸν ἑτέρων ὠφεληθησομένων σωτηρίᾳ.
Allʼ epei hai psychai tōn dia christianismon apothnę̄skontōn diʼ eusebeian metʼ eukleias apallattomenai tou sōmatos kathę̄roun tēn dynamin tōn daimonōn kai atonōteran autōn epoioun tēn kata tōn anthrōpōn epiboulēn, dia touto oimai tę̄ peirą mathontes hoi daimones heautous hēttōmenous kai kratoumenous hypo tōn martyrōn tēs alētheias ephobēthēsan palin hēkein epi to amynesthai; kai houtōs, heōs epilathōntai hōn peponthasi ponōn, eikos einai tēn tou kosmou pros Christianous eirēnēn. epan de syllexōntai tēn dynamin kai hypo tēs kakias typhloumenoi palin amynesthai thelōsi kai Christianous diōkein, palin kathairethēsontai; kai tote palin hai psychai tōn eusebountōn kai diʼ eusebeian apodyomenōn ta sōmata kathelousi to tou ponērou stratopedon. egō dʼ oimai hoti aisthomenoi hoi daimones hoti hoi men nikōntes kai diʼ eusebeian apothnę̄skontes kathairousin autōn tēn dynasteian hoi de dia tous ponous hēttōmenoi kai tēn theosebeian arnoumenoi hypocheirioi ekeinois ginontai, esthʼ hote prosphiloneikousi tois paradidomenois Christianois, hōs kolazomenoi men hypo tēs homologias autōn anapauomenoi de epi tę̄ arnēsei autōn. kai estin ge toutōn ichnē theasasthai kai en tois dikastais, kolazomenois men hypo tois hypomenousi tas aikias kai tas basanous gauroumenois de, hotan Christianos hēttēthę̄. kai gar oude dia dokousan autois philanthrōpian tauta poiousi, saphōs horōntes hoti „hē“ men „glōssa“ tōn nikōmenōn hypo ponou omōmoken, „hē de phrēn“ estin „anōmotos“ kai tauta dʼ eis to allʼ houtoi ge kai sphodra amynontai ton blasphēmounta, ētoi pheugonta dia touto kai kryptomenon ē haliskomenon kai apollymenon. kan pheugę̄ de tis Christianos, ou dia deilian pheugei. alla tērōn entolēn tou didaskalou kai heauton phylattōn katharon heterōn ōphelēthēsomenōn sōtērią.
But since the souls of those who die for Christianity out of piety, departing from the body with glory, destroyed the power of the demons and made their plotting against men weaker, for this reason, I think, the demons, having learned by experience that they are defeated and overcome by the martyrs of the truth, have been afraid to come back to taking vengeance; and so, until they forget the troubles they have suffered, it is likely that the world will be at peace with Christians. But when they gather their strength and, blinded by wickedness, wish again to take vengeance and persecute Christians, they will be overthrown again; and then again the souls of the pious, putting off their bodies for piety's sake, will overthrow the army of the evil one. And I think that the demons, perceiving that those who conquer and die for piety destroy their dominion, while those who are defeated by their sufferings and deny their worship of God become subject to them, sometimes contend hard with the Christians who are handed over, as though punished by their confession and relieved by their denial. One can see traces of this even in the judges, who are pained by those who endure the outrages and tortures, and exult when a Christian is defeated. For they do not do this out of what they think is kindness, since they see clearly that “the tongue” of those overcome by pain “has sworn, but the mind” is “unsworn.” Let this be said also in answer to “But these at least take severe vengeance on the blasphemer, who either flees and hides for this reason, or is caught and destroyed.” And if a Christian flees, he does not flee out of cowardice, but keeping his Teacher's command, and preserving himself pure for the salvation of others who will be helped.
Matt 10:23 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The martyrs' deaths break the demons' power, which is why persecution pauses and resumes; the demons and the judges rejoice when a Christian denies under torture, and a Christian who flees does so in obedience to Christ, not from cowardice.
- The quotation is Euripides, Hippolytus 612. The command to flee is Matt 10:23.
Extrabiblical texts: Euripides, Hipp. 612 (Euripides (plays and fragments); quotation)
Topics: Martyrdom, Persecution
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.44 (Koetschau 2:258–259; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-44).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.45Koetschau 2:259–261
Ἴδωμεν δὲ καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς οὕτως ἔχοντα· τί δεῖ καταλέγειν ὅσα ἐκ χρηστηρίων τοῦτο μὲν προφῆται καὶ προφήτιδες τοῦτο δὲ ἄλλοι κάτοχοι καὶ ἄνδρες καὶ γυναῖκες ἐνθέῳ φωνῇ προεῖπον; ὅσα δὲ ἐξ ἀδύτων αὐτῶν ἠκούσθησαν θαυμάσια; ὅσα δὲ ἐξ ἱερείων καὶ θυμάτων τοῖς χρωμένοις ἐδηλώθη, ὅσα δʼ ἐξ ἄλλων τεραστίων συμβόλων; τοῖς δʼ ἐναργῆ παρέστη φάσματα. μεστὸς τούτων ὁ πᾶς ἐστι βίος. πόσαι μὲν πόλεις ἐκ χρηστηρίων ὠρθώθησαν καὶ νόσους ἀπέθεντο καὶ λιμοὺς, πόσαι δʼ ἀμελήσασαι τούτων ἢ ἐκλαθόμεναι κακῶς ἐφθάρησαν; πόσαι δʼ εἰς ἀποικίαν ἐστάλησαν καὶ μετελθοῦσαι τὰ προσταχθέντα εὐδαιμόνησαν; πόσοι δυνάσται πόσοι δʼ ἰδιῶται παρὰ τοῦτο ἄμεινον ἢ χεῖρον ἀπήλλαξαν; πόσοι μὲν ἀπαιδίας δυσφοροῦντες ὧν ἐδεήθησαν σχόντες [πόσοι] δαιμόνων μῆνιν διέφυγον; πόσοι σωμάτων πηρώσεις ἰάθησαν; πόσοι δʼ αὖ πρὸς τοῖς ἱεροῖς ὑβρίσαντες αὐτίκα ἑάλωσαν, οἱ μὲν ἔκφρονες αὐτοῦ ταύτῃ κρατηθέντες οἱ δὲ καὶ ἐξαγγείλαντες (ἃ) ἔδρασαν οἱ δὲ σφᾶς αὐτοὺς διειργασμένοι οἱ δὲ νόσοις ἀνηκέστοις ἐνδεθέντες; ἤδη δὲ καὶ ἐξ αὐτῶν ἀδύτων φωνὴ βαρεῖα καθεῖλέν τινας. καὶ οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅπως ταῦτα ὡς ἐναργῆ ὁ Κέλσος προφέρεται καὶ τὰ παρʼ ἡμῖν ἀναγεγραμμένα τεράστια. εἴτʼ Ἰουδαϊκὰ εἴτε καὶ περὶ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ καὶ τῶν μαθητῶν αὐτοῦ, μύθους εἶναι νενόμικε. τί γὰρ οὐχὶ τὰ μὲν ἡμέτερά ἐστιν ἀληθῆ, ἃ (δὲ) λέγει Κέλσος ἀναπλάσματα μυθικά; οἷς οὐδʼ Ἑλλήνων φιλόσοφοι αἱρέσεις πεπιστεύκασιν, ὥσπερ ἡ Δημοκρίτου καὶ ἡ Ἐπικούρου καὶ ἡ Ἀριστοτέλους, τάχα ἂν πεπιστευκυῖαι διὰ τὴν ἐνάργειαν τοῖς ἡμετέροις, εἰ παρατετεύχεισαν Μωϋσεῖ ἤ τινι τῶν τὰ παράδοξα ποιησάντων προφητῶν ἢ καὶ αὐτῷ τῷ Ἰησοῦ.
Idōmen de kai ta hexēs houtōs echonta; ti dei katalegein hosa ek chrēstēriōn touto men prophētai kai prophētides touto de alloi katochoi kai andres kai gynaikes entheǭ phōnę̄ proeipon? hosa de ex adytōn autōn ēkousthēsan thaumasia? hosa de ex hiereiōn kai thymatōn tois chrōmenois edēlōthē, hosa dʼ ex allōn terastiōn symbolōn? tois dʼ enargē parestē phasmata. mestos toutōn ho pas esti bios. posai men poleis ek chrēstēriōn ōrthōthēsan kai nosous apethento kai limous, posai dʼ amelēsasai toutōn ē eklathomenai kakōs ephtharēsan? posai dʼ eis apoikian estalēsan kai metelthousai ta prostachthenta eudaimonēsan? posoi dynastai posoi dʼ idiōtai para touto ameinon ē cheiron apēllaxan? posoi men apaidias dysphorountes hōn edeēthēsan schontes [posoi] daimonōn mēnin diephygon? posoi sōmatōn pērōseis iathēsan? posoi dʼ au pros tois hierois hybrisantes autika healōsan, hoi men ekphrones autou tautę̄ kratēthentes hoi de kai exangeilantes (ha) edrasan hoi de sphas autous dieirgasmenoi hoi de nosois anēkestois endethentes? ēdē de kai ex autōn adytōn phōnē bareia katheilen tinas. kai ouk oidʼ hopōs tauta hōs enargē ho Kelsos propheretai kai ta parʼ hēmin anagegrammena terastia. eitʼ Ioudaïka eite kai peri tou Iēsou kai tōn mathētōn autou, mythous einai nenomike. ti gar ouchi ta men hēmetera estin alēthē, ha (de) legei Kelsos anaplasmata mythika? hois oudʼ Hellēnōn philosophoi haireseis pepisteukasin, hōsper hē Dēmokritou kai hē Epikourou kai hē Aristotelous, tacha an pepisteukuiai dia tēn enargeian tois hēmeterois, ei parateteucheisan Mōÿsei ē tini tōn ta paradoxa poiēsantōn prophētōn ē kai autǭ tǭ Iēsou.
Let us see also what follows, which runs thus: “Why need I list all that has been foretold, from oracles, by prophets and prophetesses, and by other men and women possessed, with inspired voice? And all the wonderful things heard from the inner shrines themselves? And all that has been revealed to those who consult them from victims and sacrifices, and all from other marvellous signs? To some, clear apparitions have appeared. All of life is full of these things. How many cities have been raised up by oracles and rid of plagues and famines, and how many, neglecting or forgetting them, have been miserably destroyed? How many have been sent out to found colonies and, following what was commanded, have prospered? How many rulers, how many private persons, have fared better or worse because of this? How many, distressed at childlessness, have obtained what they asked for and escaped the wrath of demons? How many have been healed of bodily maladies? And how many, on the other hand, having committed outrage at the temples, have been caught at once, some seized with madness on the spot, others confessing what they had done, others having killed themselves, others bound by incurable diseases? And already a terrible voice from the inner shrines themselves has struck some down.” I do not know how Celsus puts forward these things as clearly evident, while he has thought the marvels recorded among us, whether Jewish or concerning Jesus and his disciples, to be myths. Why are not ours true, and what Celsus speaks of mythical fictions? Not even the philosophical schools of the Greeks have believed in them, such as those of Democritus, Epicurus, and Aristotle; and they would perhaps have believed ours because of their evidence, if they had met Moses or one of the prophets who did marvellous things, or Jesus himself.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
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Summary: Celsus lists the benefits and punishments said to come from pagan oracles and shrines; Origen asks why these should be believed and the biblical miracles called myths, when even Greek philosophers doubted the oracles.
- The editor deletes a second “how many” (πόσοι).
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.45 (Koetschau 2:259–261; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-45).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.46Koetschau 2:261
Ἡ μὲν Πυθία ἱστόρηται ὅτι καὶ νοθευθεῖσα ἔχρησέ ποτε· οἱ δὲ παρʼ ἡμῖν προφῆται οὐ μόνον ὑπὸ τῶν κατʼ αὐτοὺς ἐθαυμάσθησαν διὰ τὴν ἐνάργειαν τῶν λεγομένων ὑπʼ αὐτῶν ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐν τοῖς ἑξῆς χρόνοις. ἐκ γὰρ ὧν ἔχρησαν οἱ προφῆται καὶ πόλεις ὠρθώθησαν καὶ ἄνθρωποι ὑγιάσθησαν καὶ λιμοὶ ἐπαύσαντο. ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰς ἀποικίαν σαφῶς τὴν ἀπʼ Αἰγύπτου εἰς τὴν Παλαιστίνην κατὰ χρησμοὺς ἐλήλυθεν ὅλον τὸ Ἰουδαίων ἔθνος· ὅπερ μετελθὸν μὲν τὰ προσταχθέντα ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ εὐδαιμόνησε σφαλὲν δὲ μετέγνω. τί δὲ δεῖ λέγειν ὅσοι δυνάσται καὶ ὅσοι ἰδιῶται κατὰ τὰς ἱστορίας τῆς γραφῆς ἄμεινον ἢ χεῖρον προσέχοντες ταῖς προφητείαις ἢ ἀμελήσαντες ἀπήλλαξαν; εἰ δὲ καὶ περὶ ἀπαιδίας δεῖ λέγειν, ἐφʼ ᾗ δυσφοροῦντές τινες γεγόνασι πατέρες ἢ μητέρες, τὰς περὶ τούτου εὐχὰς ἀναπέμψαντες τῷ τῶν ὅλων δημιουργῷ, ἀναγνώτω τις τὰ περὶ τοῦ Ἀβραὰμ καὶ τῆς Σάῤῥας, ἐξ ὧν γέγονεν Ἰσαὰκ ἤδη γεγηρακότων. ὁ παντὸς τοῦ Ἰουδαίων ἔθνους πατὴρ καὶ ἑτέρων παρὰ τούτους. ἀναγνώτω δὲ καὶ τὰ περὶ Ἰεζεκίου, οὐ μόνον ἀπαλλαγὴν νόσου λαβόντος κατὰ τὰς Ἡσαΐου προφητείας ἀλλὰ καὶ τεθαῤῥηκότως εἰπόντος τό· „ἀπὸ γὰρ τοῦ νῦν παιδία ποιήσω. ἃ ἀναγγελεῖ τὴν δικαιοσύνην σου.“ καὶ ἐν τῇ τετάρτῃ δὲ τῶν Βασιλειῶν ἡ ὑποδεξαμένη τὸν Ἐλισσαῖον, χάριτι θεοῦ προφητεύσαντα περὶ γενέσεως παιδὸς, κατὰ τὰς εὐχὰς τοῦ Ἐλισσαίου γέγονε μήτηρ. ἀλλὰ καὶ πηρώσεις ἰάθησαν μυρίαι ὑπὸ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ. καὶ ἄλλοι πρὸς τῷ ἐν Ἱεροσολύμοις ἱερῷ τολμήσαντες ὑβρίσαι τὴν Ἰουδαϊκὴν θρησκείαν πεπόνθασι τὰ ἀναγεγραμμένα ἐν τοῖς Μακκαβαϊκοῖς.
Hē men Pythia historētai hoti kai notheutheisa echrēse pote; hoi de parʼ hēmin prophētai ou monon hypo tōn katʼ autous ethaumasthēsan dia tēn enargeian tōn legomenōn hypʼ autōn alla kai en tois hexēs chronois. ek gar hōn echrēsan hoi prophētai kai poleis ōrthōthēsan kai anthrōpoi hygiasthēsan kai limoi epausanto. alla kai eis apoikian saphōs tēn apʼ Aigyptou eis tēn Palaistinēn kata chrēsmous elēlythen holon to Ioudaiōn ethnos; hoper metelthon men ta prostachthenta hypo tou theou eudaimonēse sphalen de metegnō. ti de dei legein hosoi dynastai kai hosoi idiōtai kata tas historias tēs graphēs ameinon ē cheiron prosechontes tais prophēteiais ē amelēsantes apēllaxan? ei de kai peri apaidias dei legein, ephʼ hę̄ dysphorountes tines gegonasi pateres ē mēteres, tas peri toutou euchas anapempsantes tǭ tōn holōn dēmiourgǭ, anagnōtō tis ta peri tou Abraam kai tēs Sarrhas, ex hōn gegonen Isaak ēdē gegērakotōn. ho pantos tou Ioudaiōn ethnous patēr kai heterōn para toutous. anagnōtō de kai ta peri Iezekiou, ou monon apallagēn nosou labontos kata tas Hēsaïou prophēteias alla kai tetharrhēkotōs eipontos to; „apo gar tou nyn paidia poiēsō. ha anangelei tēn dikaiosynēn sou.“ kai en tę̄ tetartę̄ de tōn Basileiōn hē hypodexamenē ton Elissaion, chariti theou prophēteusanta peri geneseōs paidos, kata tas euchas tou Elissaiou gegone mētēr. alla kai pērōseis iathēsan myriai hypo tou Iēsou. kai alloi pros tǭ en Hierosolymois hierǭ tolmēsantes hybrisai tēn Ioudaïkēn thrēskeian peponthasi ta anagegrammena en tois Makkabaïkois.
The Pythia is related once to have given an oracle after being bribed; but our prophets were admired not only by their contemporaries for the clear evidence of what they said, but also in later times. For through the oracles the prophets gave, cities were set upright, men were healed, and famines ceased. Indeed, the whole Jewish nation manifestly went out as a colony from Egypt to Palestine according to oracles; and when it followed what God commanded, it prospered, and when it went astray, it repented. Why need I say how many rulers and how many private persons, according to the histories of Scripture, fared better or worse by heeding or neglecting the prophecies? And if we must speak of childlessness, over which some were distressed who then became fathers or mothers after sending up their prayers for this to the Creator of the universe, let one read about Abraham and Sarah, from whom Isaac was born when they were already old, the father of the whole Jewish nation and of others besides. Let him read also about Hezekiah, who not only was delivered from illness according to Isaiah's prophecies, but also said with confidence, “For from now on I will beget children, who will declare your righteousness.” And in the fourth book of Kingdoms the woman who received Elisha, who by God's grace prophesied the birth of a child, became a mother according to Elisha's prayers. Countless maladies too were healed by Jesus. And others who dared to outrage the Jewish worship at the temple in Jerusalem suffered what is recorded in the books of Maccabees.
Gen 21:1–3 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 38:19 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Kgs 4:16–17 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Scripture records better-attested versions of everything Celsus claims for oracles: the Exodus led by prophecy, children given to Abraham and Sarah, Hezekiah, and the Shunammite, healings by Jesus, and punishment of those who profaned the temple.
- The Pythia was bribed in the story of Cleomenes (Herodotus, Histories 6.66). The references are Gen 21:1–3, Isa 38:1–8 and 38:19 (LXX), 2 Kgs 4:8–17 (4 Kingdoms LXX), and 2 Macc 3 (Heliodorus).
Extrabiblical texts: Herodotus, Hist. 6.66 (Herodotus, Histories; allusion); 2 Macc 3 (2 Maccabees [in RC, EO canons]; allusion)
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.46 (Koetschau 2:261; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-46).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.47Koetschau 2:261–262
Ἀλλʼ ἐροῦσιν Ἕλληνες ταῦτα μύθους. καίτοι γε μαρτυρούμενα ὡς ἀληθῆ ὑπὸ ὅλων δύο ἐθνῶν. τί δὲ οὐχὶ μᾶλλον τὰ Ἑλλήνων μῦθοι ἢ ταῦτα; εἰ δὲ καὶ ὁμόσε τις χωρήσας τῷ λόγῳ. ἵνα μὴ δόξῃ ἀποκληρωτικῶς τὰ μὲν σφέτερα παραδέχεσθαι τοῖς δʼ ἀλλοτρίοις ἀπιστεῖν, φήσαι καὶ τὰ Ἑλλήνων ὑπό τινων γεγονέναι δαιμόνων καὶ τὰ Ἰουδαίων ἤτοι ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ διὰ τῶν προφητῶν ἢ ὑπὸ τῶν ἀγγέλων ἢ ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ διὰ τῶν ἀγγέλων, καὶ τὰ Χριστιανῶν δὲ ὑπὸ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ καὶ τῆς ἐν τοῖς ἀποστόλοις δυνάμεως αὐτοῦ· φέρʼ ἅπαντα παραθῶμεν ἀλλήλοις καὶ τὸ τέλος ἴδωμεν τοῦ βουλήματος τῶν ἐνεργησάντων καὶ τὴν ἀπὸ τούτου ὠφέλειαν ἢ βλάβην ἢ οὐδέτερα τῶν τὰς νομιζομένας εὐεργεσίας πεπονθότων, εἰ μὴ φιλόσοφον μὲν ὄψεται τὸ πάλαι Ἰουδαίων ἔθνος, πρὶν ἐξυβρίσωσιν εἰς τὸ θεῖον, ὑφʼ οὗ διὰ τὴν πολλὴν κακίαν ἐγκατελείφθησαν, παραδόξως δὲ συστάντας Χριστιανοὺς κατὰ τὴν ἀρχὴν μάλιστα ὑπὸ τῶν τεραστίων ἤπερ τῶν προτρεπτικῶν λόγων προσαγομένους τῷ καταλιπεῖν μὲν τὰ πάτρια αἱρεῖσθαι δὲ τὰ τῶν πατρίων ἀλλότρια. καὶ γὰρ, εἰ χρὴ καὶ τῷ εἰκότι χρῆσθαι λόγῳ περὶ τῆς ἀρχῆθεν Χριστιανῶν συστάσεως, φήσομεν ὅτι οὐ πιθανὸν οὔτε τοὺς Ἰησοῦ ἀποστόλους, ἄνδρας ἀγραμμάτους καὶ ἰδιώτας, ἄλλῳ τινὶ τεθαῤῥηκέναι πρὸς τὸ καταγγεῖλαι τοῖς ἀνθρώποις χριστιανισμὸν ἢ τῇ δοθείσῃ αὐτοῖς δυνάμει καὶ τῇ ἐν τῷ λόγῳ εἰς τὰ δηλούμενα πράγματα χάριτι, ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ τοὺς ἀκροωμένους αὐτῶν μετατεθεῖσθαι ἐκ πατρίων πολυχρονίων ἐθῶν, μὴ ἀξιολόγου τινὸς δυνάμεως αὐτοὺς καὶ τεραστίων πραγμάτων μετακινησάντων ἐπὶ τὰ οὕτως ξένα καὶ ἀλλότρια τῶν συντρόφων αὐτοῖς δογμάτων.
Allʼ erousin Hellēnes tauta mythous. kaitoi ge martyroumena hōs alēthē hypo holōn dyo ethnōn. ti de ouchi mallon ta Hellēnōn mythoi ē tauta? ei de kai homose tis chōrēsas tǭ logǭ. hina mē doxę̄ apoklērōtikōs ta men sphetera paradechesthai tois dʼ allotriois apistein, phēsai kai ta Hellēnōn hypo tinōn gegonenai daimonōn kai ta Ioudaiōn ētoi hypo tou theou dia tōn prophētōn ē hypo tōn angelōn ē hypo tou theou dia tōn angelōn, kai ta Christianōn de hypo tou Iēsou kai tēs en tois apostolois dynameōs autou; pherʼ hapanta parathōmen allēlois kai to telos idōmen tou boulēmatos tōn energēsantōn kai tēn apo toutou ōpheleian ē blabēn ē oudetera tōn tas nomizomenas euergesias peponthotōn, ei mē philosophon men opsetai to palai Ioudaiōn ethnos, prin exybrisōsin eis to theion, hyphʼ hou dia tēn pollēn kakian enkateleiphthēsan, paradoxōs de systantas Christianous kata tēn archēn malista hypo tōn terastiōn ēper tōn protreptikōn logōn prosagomenous tǭ katalipein men ta patria haireisthai de ta tōn patriōn allotria. kai gar, ei chrē kai tǭ eikoti chrēsthai logǭ peri tēs archēthen Christianōn systaseōs, phēsomen hoti ou pithanon oute tous Iēsou apostolous, andras agrammatous kai idiōtas, allǭ tini tetharrhēkenai pros to katangeilai tois anthrōpois christianismon ē tę̄ dotheisę̄ autois dynamei kai tę̄ en tǭ logǭ eis ta dēloumena pragmata chariti, allʼ oude tous akroōmenous autōn metatetheisthai ek patriōn polychroniōn ethōn, mē axiologou tinos dynameōs autous kai terastiōn pragmatōn metakinēsantōn epi ta houtōs xena kai allotria tōn syntrophōn autois dogmatōn.
But the Greeks will say these things are myths, although they are attested as true by two whole nations. Why are not the stories of the Greeks myths rather than these? And if someone, coming to close quarters with the argument so as not to seem to accept arbitrarily what is his own and disbelieve what is another's, were to say that the Greek wonders were done by certain demons, and the Jewish ones either by God through the prophets, or by the angels, or by God through the angels, and the Christian ones by Jesus and his power in the apostles, come, let us compare them all with one another and see the end of the intention of those who worked them, and the benefit or harm, or neither, to those who received the supposed benefits. Will he not see that the Jewish nation of old was philosophical, before they committed outrage against the divine, by whom they were abandoned because of their great wickedness; and that the Christians came together in a marvellous way, drawn at the beginning especially by miracles rather than by exhortations to leave their ancestral customs and choose what was foreign to them? For indeed, if one must use a probable argument about the first formation of the Christians, we shall say that it is not credible either that the apostles of Jesus, unlettered and simple men, took courage to proclaim Christianity to men from anything other than the power given them and the grace in their word for the things they declared; or that their hearers were moved from long-standing ancestral customs, unless some remarkable power and marvellous deeds had moved them to doctrines so strange and foreign to those in which they had been raised.
Acts 4:13 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: If one weighs the wonders of Greeks, Jews, and Christians by their purpose and results, the Christian ones stand out: unlettered apostles could not have converted people from ancestral customs without real divine power and miracles.
- “Unlettered and simple men” is Acts 4:13. Origen's remark that the Jewish nation was abandoned for wickedness reflects his polemical reading of history and is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (missing accent in the digital text): μῦθοι η ταῦτα → μῦθοι ἢ ταῦτα.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.47 (Koetschau 2:261–262; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-47).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.48Koetschau 2:262–263
Εἶτʼ οὐκ οἶδʼ ὅπως ὁ Κέλσος τὴν προθυμίαν τῶν μέχρι θανάτου ἀγωνιζομένων ὑπὲρ τοῦ μὴ ἐξομόσασθαι χριστιανισμὸν παρατιθέμενος ἐπιφέρει ὡσπερεὶ ἐξισῶν τὰ ἡμέτερα τοῖς ὑπὸ τῶν τελεστῶν καὶ μυσταγωγῶν λεγομένοις καί φησι· μάλιστα μὲν, ὦ βέλτιστε, ὥσπερ σὺ κολάσεις αἰωνίους νομίζεις, οὕτως καὶ οἱ τῶν ἱερῶν ἐκείνων ἐξηγηταὶ τελεσταί τε καὶ μυσταγωγοί· ἃς σὺ μὲν τοῖς ἄλλοις ἀπειλεῖς, ἐκεῖνοι δὲ σοί. πότερα γὰρ αὐτῶν ἀληθέστερα ἢ ἐπικρατέστερα, ἔξεστι σκοπεῖν. λόγῳ μὲν γὰρ ἐξ ἴσου περὶ τῶν σφετέρων σφίσιν ἑκάτεροι διαβεβαιοῦσθε· τεκμηρίων δὲ εἰ δέοι. πολλὰ ἐκεῖνοι καὶ ἐναργῆ δεικνύουσιν ἔργα τε δαιμονίων τινῶν δυνάμεων καὶ χρηστηρίων καὶ ἐκ παντοδαπῶν μαντείων προκομίζοντες. οὐκοῦν διὰ τούτων τὰς αἰωνίους κολάσεις ἐπʼ ἴσης βούλεται καὶ ἡμᾶς λέγειν καὶ τοὺς τελεστὰς καὶ ἐξετάζειν, ὁπότεροι μᾶλλον ἀληθεύουσιν. εἴποιμι δʼ ἂν ἀληθεύειν τοὺς δυνηθέντας διαθεῖναι τοὺς ἀκροατὰς τῶν λεγομένων οὕτως βιοῦντας, ὡς τούτων οὕτως ἐχόντων. διατίθενται Ἰουδαῖοι καὶ Χριστιανοὶ περὶ τοῦ ὑπʼ αὐτῶν καλουμένου μέλλοντος αἰῶνος καὶ τῶν ἐν αὐτῷ γερῶν μὲν ἐπὶ τοὺς δικαίους κολάσεων δὲ ἐπὶ τοὺς ἁμαρτωλούς. δεικνύτω οὖν καὶ Κέλσος ἢ ὁ βουλόμενος, τίνες διετέθησαν περὶ αἰωνίων κολάσεων ὑπὸ τῶν τελεστῶν καὶ μυσταγωγῶν. εἰκὸς γάρ ἐστι τὸ βούλημα τοῦ πατρὸς τῶν λεγομένων εἶναι οὐ τὸ ἀφοσιοῦσθαι μόνον καὶ εἰπεῖν περὶ κολάσεων ἀλλὰ τὸ διαθεῖναι τοὺς ἀκούοντας πρὸς τὸ ὅση δύναμις φυλάξασθαι τὰ τῶν κολάσεων αἴτια αὐτοὺς ἐργάσασθαι. ἀλλὰ καὶ αἱ προφητεῖαι τοῖς μὴ παρέργως ἐντυγχάνουσι τῇ ἐν αὐταῖς προγνώσει ἱκαναί μοι εἶναι δοκοῦσι πρὸς τὸ πεῖσαι τὸν συνετῶς ἅμα καὶ εὐγνωμόνως ἀναγινώσκοντα ὅτι θεοῦ πνεῦμα ἦν ἐν τοῖς ἀνδράσιν ἐκείνοις· αἷς οὐδὲν τῶν δεικνυμένων ἔργων δαιμονίων οὐδὲ τῶν ἐκ χρηστηρίων δυνάμεων οὐδὲ τῶν μαντειῶν κἂν ἐπὶ ποσὸν παραβάλλεσθαι δύναται.
Eitʼ ouk oidʼ hopōs ho Kelsos tēn prothymian tōn mechri thanatou agōnizomenōn hyper tou mē exomosasthai christianismon paratithemenos epipherei hōsperei exisōn ta hēmetera tois hypo tōn telestōn kai mystagōgōn legomenois kai phēsi; malista men, ō beltiste, hōsper sy kolaseis aiōnious nomizeis, houtōs kai hoi tōn hierōn ekeinōn exēgētai telestai te kai mystagōgoi; has sy men tois allois apeileis, ekeinoi de soi. potera gar autōn alēthestera ē epikratestera, exesti skopein. logǭ men gar ex isou peri tōn spheterōn sphisin hekateroi diabebaiousthe; tekmēriōn de ei deoi. polla ekeinoi kai enargē deiknyousin erga te daimoniōn tinōn dynameōn kai chrēstēriōn kai ek pantodapōn manteiōn prokomizontes. oukoun dia toutōn tas aiōnious kolaseis epʼ isēs bouletai kai hēmas legein kai tous telestas kai exetazein, hopoteroi mallon alētheuousin. eipoimi dʼ an alētheuein tous dynēthentas diatheinai tous akroatas tōn legomenōn houtōs biountas, hōs toutōn houtōs echontōn. diatithentai Ioudaioi kai Christianoi peri tou hypʼ autōn kaloumenou mellontos aiōnos kai tōn en autǭ gerōn men epi tous dikaious kolaseōn de epi tous hamartōlous. deiknytō oun kai Kelsos ē ho boulomenos, tines dietethēsan peri aiōniōn kolaseōn hypo tōn telestōn kai mystagōgōn. eikos gar esti to boulēma tou patros tōn legomenōn einai ou to aphosiousthai monon kai eipein peri kolaseōn alla to diatheinai tous akouontas pros to hosē dynamis phylaxasthai ta tōn kolaseōn aitia autous ergasasthai. alla kai hai prophēteiai tois mē parergōs entynchanousi tę̄ en autais prognōsei hikanai moi einai dokousi pros to peisai ton synetōs hama kai eugnōmonōs anaginōskonta hoti theou pneuma ēn en tois andrasin ekeinois; hais ouden tōn deiknymenōn ergōn daimoniōn oude tōn ek chrēstēriōn dynameōn oude tōn manteiōn kan epi poson paraballesthai dynatai.
Then, I do not know how, Celsus, citing the zeal of those who contend to the death rather than forswear Christianity, adds, as though putting our teachings on a level with what is said by initiators and mystagogues: “Most of all, my good man, just as you believe in eternal punishments, so do the interpreters of those sacred rites, the initiators and mystagogues; which you threaten others with, and they threaten you with. Which of them is truer or more powerful one may consider. For in word both of you equally affirm your own views; but if proofs are needed, they show many clear ones, bringing forward works of certain demonic powers and of oracles, and from every kind of divination.” By this he means that we and the initiators speak equally of eternal punishments, and that one should examine which of us speaks more truly. I would say that those speak truly who have been able to dispose their hearers to live as though these things were so. Jews and Christians are so disposed concerning what they call the age to come and its rewards for the righteous and punishments for sinners. Let Celsus, then, or whoever wishes, show who were so disposed about eternal punishments by the initiators and mystagogues. For it is likely that the intention of the Father of what is said is not merely to discharge a duty and speak about punishments, but to dispose the hearers to avoid, as far as they can, doing what causes the punishments. Moreover, the prophecies, to those who read them not carelessly, seem to me sufficient by the foreknowledge in them to persuade the intelligent and fair-minded reader that the Spirit of God was in those men; and with them none of the demonic works displayed, nor of the powers from oracles, nor of divinations, can be compared even in the slightest.
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Summary: Celsus says the mystery priests threaten eternal punishment just as Christians do; Origen replies that the true teaching is the one that actually leads people to live righteously, and that the prophets' foreknowledge proves God's Spirit was in them.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misspelling in the digital text): χριστιανιασμὸν → χριστιανισμὸν.
Topics: Eschatology, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.48 (Koetschau 2:262–263; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-48).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
8.49Koetschau 2:263–265
Ἴδωμεν δὲ καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς οὕτως λεγόμενα ὑπὸ τοῦ Κέλσου πρὸς ἡμᾶς· ἔτι δὲ πῶς οὐκ ἄτοπα ὑμῶν ταῦτα, τὸ μὲν σῶμα ποθεῖν καὶ ἐλπίζειν ὅτι αὐτὸ τοῦτο ἀναστήσεται ὡς οὐδὲν ἡμῖν τούτου κρεῖττον οὐδὲ τιμιώτερον, πάλιν δʼ αὐτὸ ῥίπτειν εἰς κολάσεις ὡς ἄτιμον; ἀλλὰ τοῖς μὲν τοῦτο πειθομένοις καὶ τῷ σώματι συντετηκόσιν οὐκ ἄξιον τοῦτο διαλέγεσθαι· οὗτοι γάρ εἰσιν οἱ καὶ τὰ ἄλλα ἄγροικοι καὶ ἀκάθαρτοι καὶ χωρὶς λόγου τῇ στάσει συννοσοῦντες· τοῖς μήν γε τὴν ψυχὴν ἢ τὸν νοῦν (εἴτε πνευματικὸν τοῦτον ἐθέλουσι καλεῖν εἴτε πνεῦμα νοερὸν ἅγιον καὶ μακάριον εἴτε ψυχὴν ζῶσαν εἴτε θείας καὶ ἀσωμάτου φύσεως ἔκγονον ὑπερουράνιόν τε καὶ ἄφθαρτον εἴθʼ ὅ τι καὶ ὅ τι χαίρουσιν ὀνομάζοντες), τοῖς τοῦτο ἐλπίζουσιν ἕξειν αἰώνιον σὺν θεῷ, τούτοις διαλέξομαι. τοῦτο μέν γε ὀρθῶς νομίζουσιν, ὡς οἱ μὲν εὖ βιώσαντες εὐδαιμονήσουσιν, οἱ δὲ ἄδικοι πάμπαν αἰωνίοις κακοῖς συνέξονται· καὶ τούτου δὲ τοῦ δόγματος μήθʼ οὗτοι μήτʼ ἄλλος ἀνθρώπων μηδείς ποτε ἀποστῇ † ἀποτείνοντες. περὶ ἀναστάσεως δὴ εἰ καὶ αὐτὸς ἤδη πολλάκις ὀνειδίζει, ἀλλʼ ἡμεῖς τὸ κατὰ τὸν τόπον ἡμῖν φανὲν εὔλογον, (ὡς) οἷόν τʼ ἦν, παραστήσαντες οὐ μέλλομεν πρὸς ἓν ἔγκλημα πολλάκις λεγόμενον πολλάκις ἀπολογεῖσθαι. συκοφαντεῖ δʼ ἡμᾶς ὁ Κέλσος ὡς οὐδὲν τοῦ σώματος κρεῖττον οὐδὲ τιμιώτερον ἐν τῇ συστάσει ἡμῶν ἡγουμένους· ψυχὴν γὰρ παντὸς σώματος καὶ μάλιστα τὴν λογικήν φαμεν εἶναι πρᾶγμα τιμιώτερον, εἰ καὶ τὸ „κατʼ εἰκόνα τοῦ κτίσαντος“ ψυχὴ μὲν χωρεῖ οὐδαμῶς δὲ τὸ σῶμα. οὐδὲ γὰρ καθʼ ἡμᾶς σῶμα ὁ θεός· ἵνα μὴ περιπέσωμεν οἷς περιπίπτουσιν ἀτόποις οἱ τὰ Ζήνωνος καὶ Χρυσίππου φιλοσοφοῦντες.
Idōmen de kai ta hexēs houtōs legomena hypo tou Kelsou pros hēmas; eti de pōs ouk atopa hymōn tauta, to men sōma pothein kai elpizein hoti auto touto anastēsetai hōs ouden hēmin toutou kreitton oude timiōteron, palin dʼ auto rhiptein eis kolaseis hōs atimon? alla tois men touto peithomenois kai tǭ sōmati syntetēkosin ouk axion touto dialegesthai; houtoi gar eisin hoi kai ta alla agroikoi kai akathartoi kai chōris logou tę̄ stasei synnosountes; tois mēn ge tēn psychēn ē ton noun (eite pneumatikon touton ethelousi kalein eite pneuma noeron hagion kai makarion eite psychēn zōsan eite theias kai asōmatou physeōs ekgonon hyperouranion te kai aphtharton eithʼ ho ti kai ho ti chairousin onomazontes), tois touto elpizousin hexein aiōnion syn theǭ, toutois dialexomai. touto men ge orthōs nomizousin, hōs hoi men eu biōsantes eudaimonēsousin, hoi de adikoi pampan aiōniois kakois synexontai; kai toutou de tou dogmatos mēthʼ houtoi mētʼ allos anthrōpōn mēdeis pote apostę̄ † apoteinontes. peri anastaseōs dē ei kai autos ēdē pollakis oneidizei, allʼ hēmeis to kata ton topon hēmin phanen eulogon, (hōs) hoion tʼ ēn, parastēsantes ou mellomen pros hen enklēma pollakis legomenon pollakis apologeisthai. sykophantei dʼ hēmas ho Kelsos hōs ouden tou sōmatos kreitton oude timiōteron en tę̄ systasei hēmōn hēgoumenous; psychēn gar pantos sōmatos kai malista tēn logikēn phamen einai pragma timiōteron, ei kai to „katʼ eikona tou ktisantos“ psychē men chōrei oudamōs de to sōma. oude gar kathʼ hēmas sōma ho theos; hina mē peripesōmen hois peripiptousin atopois hoi ta Zēnōnos kai Chrysippou philosophountes.
Let us see also what Celsus says to us next, as follows: “Moreover, is it not absurd of you, on the one hand to long for the body and hope that this very body will rise, as though we had nothing better or more precious than it, and on the other hand to cast it into punishments as dishonourable? But with those who believe this and are glued to the body it is not worth discussing this; for these are people who are also rustic and impure in other respects and, without reason, share in the sickness of sedition. But with those who hope that the soul or the mind (whether they wish to call it spiritual, or an intelligent spirit, holy and blessed, or a living soul, or the supercelestial and incorruptible offspring of a divine and incorporeal nature, or whatever they like to name it), with those who hope that this will have eternal life with God, with these I will discuss. They are right in thinking that those who have lived well will be happy, and the unjust will be held altogether in eternal evils; and from this doctrine let neither they nor any other man ever depart ….” As for the resurrection, even if he himself has often reproached us with it, we, having set out as well as we could what seemed reasonable to us on the subject, do not intend to reply many times to one charge made many times. Celsus slanders us as thinking there is nothing better or more precious than the body in our constitution; for we say that the soul, especially the rational soul, is more precious than any body, since the soul, and in no way the body, receives what is “after the image of him who created it.” For on our view God is not a body, lest we fall into the absurdities into which those who follow the philosophy of Zeno and Chrysippus fall.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Col 3:10 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Celsus mocks Christians for both longing for the body's resurrection and consigning bodies to punishment, but agrees that the righteous will be happy and the wicked punished for ever; Origen answers that Christians value the rational soul above the body, and God is not a body as the Stoics say.
- The quotation is Col 3:10. The text of Celsus is corrupt at its end (marked † in the edition, before ἀποτείνοντες); the final word is left untranslated (“…”). Zeno and Chrysippus, the Stoics, held that God is a body.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 8.49 (Koetschau 2:263–265; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8-34/#p-8-49).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.