Letters 144.1–145.5

Latin text: Hilberg, CSEL 54–56 (Latin text: Isidor Hilberg (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 6 (1893).

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Chapter 144

144.1CSEL 56:294

Per religiosum presbyterum Saturninum tuae uenerationis litteras sumpsi hoc a me magno studio, quod nondum habeo, flagitantis. sed cur hoc feceris, causam mihi aperuisti, quod scilicet credas de hac re mihi consulenti iam fuisse responsum. utinam ita esset! absit, ut te, cuius expectationem auidissimam nouerim, huius muneris communicatione fraudarem! sed, si quid credis, frater carissime, quinque ferme anni ecce euoluti sunt, ex quo in orientem misi librum non praesumptionis sed consultationis meae et adhuc rescripta non merui, quibus mihi enodaretur haec quaestio, in qua me cupis ad te certam ferre sententiam. utrumque ergo misissem, si utrumque haberem.

Through the devout presbyter Saturninus I received the letter of your reverence, asking of me with great eagerness something I do not yet have. But you have told me why you did this: you believe that an answer has already been given to me when I consulted about this matter. Would that it were so! Far be it from me to cheat you, whose most eager expectation I know, of sharing this gift! But, if you will believe it, dearest brother, see, almost five years have passed since I sent to the East a book, not of my presumption but of my consultation, and I have not yet been favoured with a reply by which this question might be untied for me, the question on which you want me to give you a sure opinion. So I would have sent both, if I had both.

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Summary: Augustine tells Optatus that he has had no reply to the question on the soul's origin he sent to Jerome nearly five years ago.

  • This letter is by Augustine, not Jerome (Augustine, Letter 202A, to Optatus, ca. 420). The book sent 'to the East' is Augustine's Letter 166 to Jerome (Letter 131 in this collection).

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Ep. 131 (Letters; allusion)

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.1 (CSEL 56:294; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-1).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hilberg's Latin text (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 6 translation (Fremantle, 1893) where it translates a letter in full, and otherwise re-read against the Latin.

144.2CSEL 56:294–295

Hoc autem, quod habeo, sine altero, quod nondum habeo, cuiquam me iam debere mittere uel edere non uidetur, ne ille, qui mihi fortasse, ut desidero, responsurus est, interrogationem meam disputatione operosissima elaboratam sine sua responsione, quae adhuc desperanda non est, per manus hominum notitiamque diffundi iure suscenseat idque iactantius quam utilius fecisse me iudicet, quasi ego potuerim quaerere, quod ille non potuerit enodare, cum forsitan possit idque dum faciat, expectandus sit; magis enim scio, quod aliis occupatur, quae minime differenda sunt plurisque pendenda.

But what I have, without the other, which I do not yet have, I do not think I ought yet to send or publish to anyone; lest he who is perhaps going to answer me, as I desire, should rightly be displeased that my question, worked out with most laborious discussion, should be spread through the hands and knowledge of men without his answer, which is not yet to be despaired of, and should judge that I did it more from boastfulness than for usefulness, as if I could ask what he could not untie; whereas perhaps he can, and while he does it, he should be waited for. For I know rather that he is occupied with other things which must by no means be put off and are of greater weight.

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Summary: Augustine explains that he will not publish his question without Jerome's answer, lest he seem to boast.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.2 (CSEL 56:294–295; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-2).

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144.3CSEL 56:295–296

Quod ut tua quoque sanctitas nouerit, adtende paulisper, quid mihi alio anno per (per)latorem, per quem scripseram, remeantem scripserit; nam hoc ex eius epistula in istam transtuli: incidit, inquit, tempus difficillimum, quando mihi tacere melius fuit quam loqui, ita ut nostra studia cessarent et iuxta Appium canina exerceretur facundia. itaque duobus libellis tuis, quos nomini meo dedicasti, eruditissimis et omni eloquentiae splendore fulgentibus ad tempus respondere non potui, non quod quicquam in illis reprehendendum putem, sed quia iuxta beatum apostolum unusquisque in suo sensu abundet, alius quidem sic, alius autem sic. certe, quicquid dici potuit et sublimi ingenio de scripturarum sanctarum hauriri fontibus, a te positum atque dissertum est. sed quaeso reuerentiam tuam, parumper patiaris me tuum laudare ingenium. nos enim inter nos eruditionis causa disserimus. ceterum aemuli et maxime heretici, si diuersas inter nos sententias uiderint, de animi calumniabuntur rancore descendere. mihi autem decretum est te amare, suscipere, colere, mirari tuaque dicta quasi mea defendere — certe et in dialogo, quem nuper edidi, beatitudinis tuae, ut dignum fuerat, recordatus sum — magisque demus operam, ut perniciosissima heresis de ecclesiis auferatur, quae semper simulat paenitentiam, ut docendi in ecclesiis habeat facultatem, ne, si aperta se luce prodiderit, foras expulsa moriatur.

That your holiness too may know this, attend for a moment to what he wrote to me in another year by the bearer, by whom I had written, when he returned; for I have copied this from his letter into this one: 'A most difficult time has come upon us,' he says, 'when it was better for me to be silent than to speak, so that our studies ceased and, as Appius says, a dog's eloquence was exercised. So I could not for the time answer your two little books, which you dedicated to my name, most learned and shining with all the splendour of eloquence; not that I think anything in them is to be blamed, but because, according to the blessed apostle, let each abound in his own sense, one in this way, another in that. Certainly, whatever could be said and drawn with lofty genius from the fountains of the holy Scriptures has been set out and discussed by you. But I ask your reverence to allow me for a little while to praise your genius. For we discuss among ourselves for the sake of learning. But rivals, and especially heretics, if they see differing opinions between us, will slander us as arising from rancour of mind. For my part I have resolved to love you, to receive you, to honour you, to admire you, and to defend your words as my own; indeed in the dialogue which I recently published I have mentioned your blessedness, as was fitting; and let us rather strive that a most pernicious heresy be removed from the churches, which always pretends repentance in order to have the opportunity of teaching in the churches, lest, if it showed itself in open light, it should be driven out and die.'

Rom 14:5 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 7:7 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine quotes Jerome's letter explaining that the troubles of the time had kept him from answering.

  • The quoted letter is Jerome's Letter 134.1 in this collection. '(Bearer)' completes a word supplied by the editor.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Letters spaced apart in the digital text.; Stray period.): paulisper,. quid → paulisper, quid; i ncidit → incidit.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Ep. 134 (Letters; quotation)

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.3 (CSEL 56:295–296; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-3).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hilberg's Latin text (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 6 translation (Fremantle, 1893) where it translates a letter in full, and otherwise re-read against the Latin.

144.4CSEL 56:296

Cernis nempe, uenerande frater, haec mei carissimi uerba inquisitioni meae reddita non eam negasse responsionem sed excusasse de tempore, quod in alia magis urgentia curam cogeretur inpendere. uides etiam, quam beniuolum animum erga me gerat quidue commoneat, ne scilicet, quod inter nos salua utique caritate ac sinceritate amicitiae eruditionis causa facimus, calumnientur aemuli et maxime heretici de animi rancore descendere. proinde, si utrumque opus nostrum, et ubi ego inquisiui et ubi ipse ad inquisita responderit, homines legerint, quia etiam oportet, ut, si eadem quaestio secundum eius sententiam sufficienter fuerit explicata, me instructum esse gratias agam, non paruus erit fructus, cum hoc exierit in notitiam plurimorum, ut minores nostri non solum sciant, quid de hac re sentire debeant, quae inter nos diligenti disceptatione discussa est, uerum etiam discant exemplo nostro deo miserante atque propitio, quem ad modum inter carissimos fratres ita non desit alterna inquisitionis gratia disputatio, ut tamen maneat inuiolata dilectio.

You see, surely, venerable brother, that these words of my dearest friend, returned to my inquiry, did not refuse an answer but excused it on account of the time, because he was compelled to spend his care on other more urgent matters. You see also how kindly a mind he bears toward me and what he warns of: namely, that what we do between us for the sake of learning, with charity and sincerity of friendship certainly preserved, rivals and especially heretics may slander as arising from rancour of mind. Accordingly, if people read both our works, both where I asked and where he himself answers what was asked (since it is fitting also that, if the same question is sufficiently explained according to his opinion, I should give thanks for having been instructed), the fruit will be no small one when this becomes known to very many: that those after us may not only know what they ought to think about this matter, which has been examined between us by careful discussion, but may also learn by our example, through God's mercy and favour, how between dearest brothers there may be no lack of discussion for the sake of mutual inquiry, while love yet remains unimpaired.

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Summary: Augustine explains that he hopes to publish both his question and Jerome's answer, as an example of friendly inquiry.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: 'j' for 'i'.): quaestjo → quaestio.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.4 (CSEL 56:296; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-4).

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144.5CSEL 56:296–297

Si autem scriptum meum, ubi res obscurissima tantum modo legitur inquisita, sine illius rescripto, ubi forsitan apparebit inuentum, emanarit latiusque pergat, perueniat etiam ad illos, qui comparantes, ut ait apostolus, semet ipsos sibimet ipsis non intellegunt, quo animo a nobis fiat, quod ipsi eo animo facere nesciunt, et uoluntatem meam erga honorandum pro suis ingentibus meritis dilectissimum amicum non sicut eam uident — quando nec uident — sed sicut eis libitum est et sicut odio suo dictante suspicantur, exponent. quod profecto, quantum in nobis est, cauere debemus.

But if my writing, in which a very obscure matter is only read as asked, should get out and go further without his reply, in which perhaps it will appear as found, it may reach even those who, as the apostle says, 'measuring themselves by themselves, do not understand'; they will not understand in what spirit we do what they do not know how to do in that spirit, and they will expound my intention toward a most beloved friend, to be honoured for his great merits, not as they see it (since they do not see it), but as they please and as their hatred dictates their suspicions. This, certainly, we ought to guard against as far as lies in us.

2 Cor 10:12 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine fears that publishing his question alone might let ill-wishers misrepresent his intentions toward Jerome.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Words run together and misplaced dashes.): uident -quando nec uidentsed → uident — quando nec uident — sed.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.5 (CSEL 56:296–297; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-5).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hilberg's Latin text (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 6 translation (Fremantle, 1893) where it translates a letter in full, and otherwise re-read against the Latin.

144.6CSEL 56:297

At si forte, quod per nos innotescere nolumus, etiam inuitis nobis eis, quibus nolumus, innotuerit, quid restabit nisi aequo animo habere domini uoluntatem? neque enim hoc scribere ad quemquam deberem, quod semper latere uoluissem. nam si — quod absit — aliquo uel casu uel necessitate numquam ille rescripserit, procul dubio nostra consultatio, quam ad eum misimus, quandoque manifestabitur nec inutilis legentibus erit, quia, etsi non illa inuenient, quae requirunt, inuenient certe, quem ad modum sint inquirenda nec temere adfirmanda, quae nesciunt, et secundum ea, quae ibi legerint, consulere etiam ipsi, quos potuerint, studiosa caritate, non discordiosa contentione curabunt, donec aut id, quod uolunt, reperiant aut ipsa inquisitione aciem mentis exerceant, ut ulterius inquirendum non esse cognoscant. nunc tamen, quam diu iam consulti amici nondum est desperanda responsio, edendam non esse consultationem nostram, quantum quidem in nobis est, puto, quod persuaserim dilectioni tuae, quamquam et ipse non eam solam poposceris, sed adiunctam etiam eius, quem consului, responsionem tibi desideraueris mitti, quod utique facerem, si haberem. si autem, ut uerbis tuae sanctitatis utar, quae in tua epistula posuisti, sapientiae meae lucidam demonstrationem, quam mihi pro merito, ut scribis, uitae meae auctor lucis attribuit, non ipsam dicis consultationem et inquisitionem meam, sed mihi iam eius rei, quam quaesiui, prouenisse inuentionem putas et ipsam potius poscis ut mittam, facerem, si ita esset, ut putas. ego enim adhuc, fateor, non inueni, quem ad modum anima et peccatum ex Adam trahat — - unde dubitare fas non est — et ipsa ex Adam non trahatur, quod mihi diligentius inquirendum quam inconsultius adserendum est.

But if perhaps what we do not wish to become known through us becomes known, even against our will, to those to whom we do not wish it, what will remain but to accept the Lord's will calmly? For I ought not to write to anyone what I always wished to remain hidden. For if (which God forbid) by some chance or necessity he never replies, our consultation which we sent him will doubtless be made public some day, and it will not be useless to readers; for even if they do not find what they seek, they will certainly find how things are to be inquired into, and how what they do not know is not to be rashly affirmed; and according to what they read there they too will take care to consult whom they can, with studious charity, not quarrelsome contention, until they either find what they want or exercise the keenness of their mind by the inquiry itself, so as to recognize that it should not be inquired into further. For now, however, as long as the answer of the friend already consulted is not to be despaired of, I think, as far as lies in us, that our consultation should not be published; which I hope I have persuaded your love of, although you did not ask for it alone, but wished to have sent to you together with it the answer of him whom I consulted, which I would certainly do if I had it. But if, to use your holiness's words in your letter, by 'a lucid demonstration of my wisdom', which, as you write, the Author of light has given me for the merit of my life, you do not mean my consultation and inquiry itself, but think that I have already arrived at the discovery of the thing I asked, and ask me rather to send that, I would do so if it were as you think. For I confess that I have not yet found how the soul draws sin from Adam (which it is not lawful to doubt) and is not itself drawn from Adam; which I must inquire into more carefully rather than assert more rashly.

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Summary: Augustine says he has not yet found how the soul inherits Adam's sin without itself being derived from Adam, and prefers to inquire rather than assert rashly.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Two words run together.): quod absitaliquo → quod absit — aliquo.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.6 (CSEL 56:297; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-6).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hilberg's Latin text (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 6 translation (Fremantle, 1893) where it translates a letter in full, and otherwise re-read against the Latin.

144.7CSEL 56:297–298

Habent litterae tuae nescio quot senes et a doctis sacerdotibus institutos uiros, quos ad tuae modicitatis intellegentiam assertionemque ueritate plenissimam reuocare non poteras, nec tamen exprimis, quaenam sit assertio tua ueritate plenissima, ad quam senes et a doctis sacerdotibus institutos uiros reuocare non poteras. si enim hoc tenebant uel tenent hi senes, quod a doctis sacerdotibus acceperunt, quomodo tibi rustica et minus instructa clericorum turba molestias generauerat in his rebus, in quibus a doctis sacerdotibus fuerat instituta? si autem senes isti uel turba clericorum ab eo, quod a doctis sacerdotibus acceperat, sua prauitate deuiabat, illorum potius auctoritate fuerat corrigenda et a tumultu contentiosissimo comprimenda. sed rursus, cum dicis te nouellum rudemque doctorem tantorum ac talium episcoporum traditiones timuisse corrumpere et conuertere homines in meliorem partem ob defunctorum iniuriam formidasse, quid das intellegi, nisi quod illi, quos corrigere cupiebas, doctorum atque magnorum iam defunctorum episcoporum traditiones nolendo deserere nouello rudique doctori adquiescere recusabant? qua in re de illis interim taceo, tuam uero assertionem, quam dicis esse ueritate plenissimam, uehementer scire desidero; non ipsam dico sententiam sed eius assertionem.

Your letter mentions some old men, I know not how many, men trained by learned bishops, whom you could not bring back to the understanding of your modesty and to an assertion full of truth; and yet you do not state what your assertion full of truth is, to which you could not bring back old men trained by learned bishops. For if these old men held or hold what they received from learned bishops, how had the rustic and less instructed crowd of clerics caused you trouble in those matters in which it had been trained by learned bishops? But if these old men or the crowd of clerics were straying by their own perversity from what they had received from learned bishops, they should rather have been corrected by the authority of those bishops and restrained from their most contentious uproar. But again, when you say that you, a new and untrained teacher, feared to corrupt the traditions of so many and such great bishops, and were afraid to convert people to the better side for fear of wronging the dead, what do you give us to understand but that those whom you wished to correct, unwilling to abandon the traditions of learned and great bishops now dead, refused to yield to a new and untrained teacher? On this matter I say nothing of them for now; but I very much desire to know your assertion, which you say is full of truth; I do not mean the opinion itself but its proof.

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Summary: Augustine asks Optatus to state the grounds of the view he claims is 'full of truth', against the older clergy who held the soul is inherited.

  • Augustine's letter to Optatus continues.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.7 (CSEL 56:297–298; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-7).

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144.8CSEL 56:298–299

Inprobari enim abs te eos, qui adfirmant omnes animas hominum ex illa una, quae protoplasto data est, per generationum successionem propagari atque traduci, sufficienter quidem in nostram notitiam pertulisti, sed qua ratione quibusue diuinarum scripturarum testimoniis id falsum esse monstraueris, quia tuae litterae non continent, ignoramus. deinde, quid ipse pro isto, quod inprobas, teneas, legenti mihi epistulam tuam, et quam fratribus antea Caesariensibus et quam mihi nuperrime direxisti, non euidenter apparet, nisi quod uideo te credere, sicut scribis, deum fecisse homines et facere et facturum esse neque aliquid esse in caelis aut in terra, quod non ipso constiterit et constet auctore. hoc sane ita uerum est, ut dubitare hinc nullus debeat. sed adhuc te oportet exprimere, unde faciat animas deus, quas negas ex propagine fieri, utrum aliunde — et si ita est, quidnam illud sit — an omnino de nihilo. nam illud Origenis et Priscilliani uel si qui alii tale aliquid sentiunt, quod pro meritis uitae prioris terrena atque mortalia contrudantur in corpora, absit, ut sentias. huic quippe opinioni prorsus apostolica contradicit auctoritas dicens Esau et Iacob, antequam nati fuissent, nihil operatos boni seu mali. igitur non ex toto sed ex parte nobis est tua de hac re nota sententia; assertio uero eius, id est unde doceatur uerum esse, quod sentis, nos penitus latet.

You have indeed informed us sufficiently that you disapprove of those who affirm that all the souls of men are propagated and transmitted through the succession of generations from that one which was given to the first-formed man; but by what reasoning or by what testimonies of the divine Scriptures you have shown this to be false, since your letter does not contain it, we do not know. Then, what you yourself hold instead of what you disapprove does not appear clearly to me as I read your letter, both the one you sent earlier to the brothers of Caesarea and the one you sent me most recently; except that I see you believe, as you write, that God has made men, makes them, and will make them, and that there is nothing in heaven or on earth that has not existed and does not exist with him as author. This is certainly so true that no one ought to doubt it. But you still need to state from what God makes the souls which you deny are made by propagation: whether from something else (and if so, what that is), or altogether from nothing. For that opinion of Origen and Priscillian, or of any others who think something of the kind, that souls are thrust into earthly and mortal bodies according to the merits of a former life, far be it from you to hold. The apostolic authority flatly contradicts this opinion, saying that Esau and Jacob, before they were born, had done nothing good or evil. So your opinion on this matter is known to us not wholly but in part; but its proof, that is, how what you think is shown to be true, is entirely hidden from us.

Rom 9:11 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine asks Optatus from what God makes souls, if not by propagation, and rejects the view that souls are embodied for sins of a former life.

  • Optatus was a bishop (his see is uncertain); 'the brothers of Caesarea' are the bishops of Mauretania Caesariensis, whom he had consulted.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.8 (CSEL 56:298–299; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-8).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hilberg's Latin text (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 6 translation (Fremantle, 1893) where it translates a letter in full, and otherwise re-read against the Latin.

144.9CSEL 56:299

Propterea petiueram prioribus litteris meis, ut libellum fidei, quem te scripsisse commemoras eique nescio quem presbyterum fallaciter subscripsisse conquereris, mihi mittere dignareris — quod etiam nunc peto — et quid testimoniorum diuinorum huic quaestioni reserandae adhibere potuisti. dicis enim in epistula ad Caesarienses placuisse uobis, ut omnem ueritatis adprobationem etiam iudices cognoscerent saeculares, quibus ex communi deprecatione residentibus et ad fidem uniuersa rimantibus id diuinitas, ut scribis, misericordiae suae infusione largita est, ut maiorem adfirmationem pro suis sensibus assertionemque proferrent, quam uestra circa eos mediocritas cum ingentium testimoniorum auctoritatibus retentabat. has ergo testimoniorum ingentium auctoritates ingenti studio scire desidero.

That is why in my earlier letter I had asked you to be good enough to send me the little book of faith which you mention having written, and to which you complain that some presbyter or other falsely subscribed (and I ask it still), and what testimonies of the divine Scriptures you could bring to unlock this question. For you say in the letter to the Caesareans that you resolved that even the secular judges should learn the whole proof of the truth; and when they sat after common prayer and examined everything with a view to faith, the Godhead, as you write, granted them by the infusion of his mercy that they brought forward a greater affirmation and proof for their own views than your modesty was holding in reserve against them with the authorities of mighty testimonies. These authorities of mighty testimonies, then, I desire with mighty eagerness to know.

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Summary: Augustine asks Optatus to send his statement of faith and the scriptural testimonies he claims to have.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.9 (CSEL 56:299; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-9).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hilberg's Latin text (CSEL 54–56, 1910–1918); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 6 translation (Fremantle, 1893) where it translates a letter in full, and otherwise re-read against the Latin.

144.10CSEL 56:299–300

Solam quippe unam causam uideris secutus, qua contradictores tuos refelleres, quod scilicet negarent esse opus dei animas nostras. quod si sentiunt, merito eorum sententia iudicatur esse damnanda. nam hoc si de ipsis corporibus dicerent, procul dubio fuerant emendandi uel detestandi. quis enim Christianus neget opera dei esse corpora singulorum quorumque nascentium? nec tamen ea propterea negamus a parentibus gigni, quia fatemur diuinitus fingi. quando ergo dicitur sic etiam animarum nostrarum incorporea quaedam sui generis semina et a parentibus trahi et tamen ex eis animas dei opere fieri, ad hoc refutandum non humana coniectura sed diuina scriptura testis adhibenda est. nam de sanctis libris canonicae auctoritatis potuit uobis testimoniorum suppetere copia, qua probatur deus animas facere; sed testimoniis talibus hi redarguuntur, qui opera dei esse singulas quasque animas in hominibus nascentibus negant, non hi, qui hoc fatentur et tamen eas sicut corpora deo quidem operante formari sed ex parentum propagatione contendunt. ad hos refellendos tibi diuina testimonia certa quaerenda sunt aut, si iam inuenisti, nobis, qui nondum inuenimus, cum impensissime, quantum possumus, inquiramus, mutua dilectione mittenda.

For you seem to have followed only one argument with which to refute your opponents: namely, that they denied that our souls are the work of God. If they think this, their opinion is rightly judged worthy of condemnation. For if they said this of bodies themselves, they would doubtless have had to be corrected or detested. For what Christian would deny that the bodies of each person born are the works of God? And yet we do not deny that they are begotten by parents because we confess that they are formed by God. So when it is said that in the same way certain incorporeal seeds of our souls, of their own kind, are both drawn from the parents and yet souls are made from them by God's work, to refute this not human conjecture but divine Scripture must be brought as witness. For from the holy books of canonical authority a supply of testimonies could be at hand for you by which it is proved that God makes souls; but by such testimonies those are refuted who deny that each soul in men as they are born is the work of God, not those who confess this and yet contend that souls, like bodies, are formed indeed by God's working, but from the propagation of the parents. To refute these, sure divine testimonies must be sought by you; or, if you have already found them, they should be sent in mutual love to us, who have not yet found them, though we are searching as hard as we can.

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Summary: Augustine points out that proving God makes souls does not refute those who hold that he makes them from the parents, as he does bodies.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: 'c' for 'e'.): detcstandi → detestandi; opera dci → opera dei; si iam inucnisti → si iam inuenisti.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.10 (CSEL 56:299–300; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-10).

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144.11CSEL 56:300

Tua quippe consultatio breuis atque postrema in litteris, quas ad fratres Caesarienses misisti, ita se habet: exoro, inquis, ut me, filium uestrum atque discipulum et ad haec mysteria nuper proximeque deo iuuante uenientem, qua debetis et dignum est et qua prudentes respondere conuenit sacerdotes, informatione doceatis, utrum magis illa sit tenenda sententia, quae animam dicit esse de traduce et per occultam quandam originem ordinemque secretum in omne hominum genus ceteras animas ex Adae protoplasti transfusione defluere an potius ea, quam omnes fratres uestri et sacerdotes hic positi retinent et adfirmant, eligenda definitio credulitasque retinenda, quae deum auctorem uniuersarum rerum hominumque cunctorum et fuisse et esse et futurum esse testatur et credit. horum igitur duorum, quae consulens proposuisti, uis ut eligatur tibique respondeatur alterutrum, quod fieri deberet ab scientibus, si essent inter se duo ista contraria, ut altero electo consequenter esset alterum respuendum.

For your brief consultation at the end of the letter which you sent to the brothers of Caesarea runs thus: 'I beg you,' you say, 'to teach me, your son and disciple, who have come recently and lately with God's help to these mysteries, with the instruction that you owe, which is fitting, and with which it befits wise bishops to answer: whether we should rather hold that opinion which says the soul is by transmission, and that by some hidden origin and secret order the other souls flow down into the whole human race from the transfusion of Adam, the first-formed man; or whether we should rather choose the definition and keep the belief which all your brothers and bishops placed here hold and affirm, which testifies and believes that God was, is, and will be the author of all things and of all men.' Of these two things, then, which you proposed in consulting, you want one or the other to be chosen and given you as an answer; which ought to be done by those who know, if these two were contrary to each other, so that, when one was chosen, the other would consequently have to be rejected.

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Summary: Augustine quotes Optatus's question to the bishops of Caesarea, which set inheritance of souls against God's being the author of all.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.11 (CSEL 56:300; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-11).

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144.12CSEL 56:300–301

Nunc autem, si quispiam non alterum e duobus his eligat, sed utrumque uerum esse respondeat, id est et in omne hominum genus ceteras animas ex Adae protoplasti transfusione defluere et nihilo minus deum auctorem uniuersarum rerum hominumque cunctorum et fuisse et esse et futurum esse credat et dicat, quid huic contradicendum esse censes? numquidnam dicturi sumus: si ex parentibus animae propagantur, non est deus auctor omnium rerum, quia non facit animas? respondebitur enim, si hoc dixerimus: ergo, quia corpora ex parentibus propagantur, non est deus auctor omnium rerum, si propter hoc dicendus est non facere corpora. quis autem neget auctorem humanorum omnium corporum deum, sed illius dicat solius, quod de terra primitus finxit aut certe etiam coniugis ipsius, quia et ipsam de latere eius ipse formauit, non autem etiam ceterorum, quia ex illis cetera hominum corpora defluxisse negare non possumus?

But now, if someone does not choose one of these two but answers that both are true, that is, both that the other souls flow down into the whole human race from the transfusion of Adam, the first-formed man, and nonetheless believes and says that God was, is, and will be the author of all things and of all men, what do you think should be said against him? Shall we say, 'If souls are propagated from parents, God is not the author of all things, because he does not make souls'? For if we say this, the answer will be: 'Then, since bodies are propagated from parents, God is not the author of all things, if on this account he must be said not to make bodies.' But who would deny that God is the author of all human bodies, saying that he is author only of that one which he first formed from the earth, or at most also of his wife's, since he himself formed her too from his side, but not of the others, because we cannot deny that the other human bodies have flowed from them?

Gen 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 2:22 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine argues that belief in the inheritance of souls is no more incompatible with God's authorship than the inheritance of bodies.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.12 (CSEL 56:300–301; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-12).

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144.13CSEL 56:301

Ac per hoc, si, aduersus quos tibi est in hac quaestione conflictus, sic adseuerant animarum ex illius unius deriuatione propaginem, ut eas iam deum negent facere atque formare, insta eis redarguendis, conuincendis, corrigendis, quantum domino adiuuante potueris. si autem initia quaedam ex illo uno et deinceps a parentibus adtrahi et tamen singulas in hominibus singulis adfirmant ab auctore omnium rerum deo creari atque formari, quid eis respondeatur, inquire, de scripturis maxime sanctis, quod non sit ambiguum nec aliter possit intellegi, aut, si iam inuenisti, ut superius postulaui, dirige et nobis. quod si te adhuc sicut me latet, insta quidem omnibus uiribus eos confutare, qui dicunt animas non ex opere diuino — quod eos dixisti in epistula tua primum inter secretiores fabulas murmurasse, deinde propter hanc sententiam stultam atque impiam a tuo consortio et ecclesiae seruitio recessisse — atque aduersus eos omnibus modis defende et tuere, quod in eadem epistula posuisti, deum fecisse animas et facere et facturum esse neque aliquid esse in caelis aut in terra, quod non ipso constiterit aut constet auctore. hoc enim de omni omnino genere creaturae uerissime atque rectissime creditur, dicitur, defenditur, comprobatur. deus enim auctor uniuersarum rerum hominumque cunctorum et fuit et est et futurus est, quod in extrema tua ad coepiscopos nostros prouinciae Caesariensis consultatione posuisti atque, ut id potius eligerent, exemplo omnium fratrum et consacerdotum, qui sunt apud uos atque id retinent, quodam modo hortatus es.

And therefore, if those with whom you are in conflict on this question assert the propagation of souls from the derivation of that one in such a way as to deny that God now makes and forms them, press on to refute, convince, and correct them, as far as you can with the Lord's help. But if they affirm that certain beginnings are drawn from that one man and thereafter from the parents, and yet that individual souls in individual men are created and formed by God, the author of all things, search for what may be answered to them, above all from the holy Scriptures, something that is not ambiguous and cannot be understood otherwise; or, if you have already found it, as I asked above, send it to us too. But if it is still hidden from you as from me, press with all your strength to refute those who say that souls are not from the divine work (who, you said in your letter, first murmured among more secret stories, and then withdrew from your fellowship and the service of the church because of this foolish and impious opinion); and against them defend and protect in every way what you set down in the same letter: that God has made souls, makes them, and will make them, and that there is nothing in heaven or on earth that has not existed or does not exist with him as author. For this is most truly and rightly believed, said, defended, and proved of every kind of creature whatever. For God was, is, and will be the author of all things and all men, as you set down at the end of your consultation to our fellow bishops of the province of Caesarea, and you in a way urged them to choose this rather, by the example of all the brothers and fellow bishops who are with you and hold it.

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Summary: Augustine urges Optatus to refute those who deny that God makes souls, but to seek clear Scripture before condemning those who hold that souls are inherited yet made by God.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.13 (CSEL 56:301; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-13).

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144.14CSEL 56:301–302

Sed alia quaestio est, ubi quaeritur, utrum omnium animarum et corporum auctor effectorque deus sit, quod ueritas habet, an aliquid naturarum exoriatur, quod ipse non faciat, quae opinio prorsus erroris est, alia uero, ubi quaeritur, utrum deus animas humanas ex propagine an sine propagine faciat, quas tamen ab illo fieri dubitare fas non est. in qua quaestione sobrium te esse ac uigilantem uolo nec sic animarum propaginem destruas, ut in heresim Pelagianam incautus incurras. nam si humanorum corporum, quorum propagatio est omnibus nota, dicimus tamen deum uereque dicimus non illius tantum primi hominis coniugumue primorum sed omnium ex illis propagatorum esse creatorem, puto facile intellegi eos, qui animarum defendunt propaginem, non ex hoc nos habere uelle destruere, quando deus animas facit, cum et corpora facit, quae de propagine fieri negare non possumus, sed alia documenta esse quaerenda, quibus hi, qui sentiunt propagari animas, repellantur, si eos errare ueritas loquitur, de qua re illi magis fuerant, si fieri posset, interrogandi, propter quorum iniuriam defunctorum, sicut scribis in epistula, quam mihi posteriorem misisti, in meliorem partem conuertere homines formidabas. hos enim defunctos tales tantosque et tam doctos episcopos fuisse dixisti, ut eorum traditiones timeres, doctor nouellus rudisque, corrumpere uelle. itaque, si scire possem, tales ac tanti et tam docti uiri istam de animarum propagatione sententiam quibus (rationibus) uel testimoniis adserebant**********, quam tamen in litteris ad Caesarienses datis illorum auctoritatem nequaquam respiciens inuentionem nouam et inauditum dogma esse dixisti, cum profecto, etsi error est, nouum tamen eum non esse nouerimus sed uetustum et antiquum.

But it is one question when it is asked whether God is the author and maker of all souls and bodies, which is the truth, or whether some nature arises which he does not make, which opinion is altogether error; and another when it is asked whether God makes human souls by propagation or without propagation, though it is not lawful to doubt that they are made by him. In this question I want you to be sober and watchful, and not to destroy the propagation of souls in such a way as to run unawares into the Pelagian heresy. For if we say, and say truly, that God is the creator of human bodies, whose propagation is known to all, not only of that first man or the first couple, but of all propagated from them, I think it is easily understood that those who defend the propagation of souls do not want us to destroy it on the ground that God makes souls, since he also makes bodies, which we cannot deny are made by propagation; but that other proofs must be sought by which those who think souls are propagated may be refuted, if the truth says they are in error. On this matter those should rather have been questioned, if it had been possible, for fear of wronging whom, now dead, as you write in the letter you sent me later, you were afraid to convert people to the better side. For you said that these dead bishops were so eminent, so great, and so learned that you, a new and untrained teacher, feared to want to corrupt their traditions. So if I could know by what (reasons) or testimonies such great and learned men asserted this opinion on the propagation of souls … which, however, in the letter given to the Caesareans, paying no regard to their authority, you called a new invention and an unheard-of doctrine; whereas surely, even if it is an error, we know that it is not new but old and ancient.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

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Summary: Augustine distinguishes whether God makes all souls (certain) from how he makes them (open), and warns Optatus not to fall into Pelagianism by denying the inheritance of souls.

  • '(reasons)' is the editor's supplement. A gap follows 'asserted this opinion on the propagation of souls' (asterisks in the digital text).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: letter dropped.): nequaqum → nequaquam.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.14 (CSEL 56:301–302; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-14).

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144.15CSEL 56:302–303

Quando autem nos aliquae causae in aliqua quaestione non inmerito dubitare compellunt, non etiam hinc dubitare debemus, utrum dubitare debeamus. de dubiis quippe rebus sine dubitatione dubitandum est. uides, quem ad modum apostolus de se ipso dubitare non dubitet, utrum in corpore an extra corpus raptus sit in tertium caelum; siue hoc siue illud, nescio, inquit, deus scit. cur ergo mihi, quam diu nescio, dubitare non liceat, utrum anima mea in istam uitam ex propagine an sine propagine uenerit, cum eam utrolibet modo a summo et uero deo factam esse non dubitem? cur mihi non sit fas dicere: scio animam meam ex opere dei subsistere et prorsus opus dei esse; siue ex propagine sicut corpus siue extra propaginem sicut illa, quae primo homini data est; nescio, deus scit? utrum horum uis ut confirmem, possem, si nossem. quod si ipse nosti, en habes me cupidiorem discere, quod nescio, quam docere, quod scio. si autem nescis sicut ego, ora sicut et ego, ut siue per quemlibet seruum suum siue per se ipsum magister ille nos doceat, qui dixit discipulis suis: ne uelitis dici ab hominibus rabbi; unus est enim magister uester Christus, si tamen scit expedire nobis, ut etiam talia nouerimus, qui nouit non solum, quid doceat, uerum etiam, quid nobis discere expediat.

When certain causes not undeservedly compel us to doubt on some question, we ought not on that account to doubt whether we ought to doubt. For about doubtful things one must doubt without doubting. You see how the apostle does not doubt to doubt about himself, whether he was caught up to the third heaven in the body or out of the body: 'Whether this or that, I do not know,' he says; 'God knows.' Why then may I not, as long as I do not know, doubt whether my soul came into this life by propagation or without it, when I do not doubt that it was made in either way by the supreme and true God? Why may I not say, 'I know that my soul subsists by God's work and is altogether God's work; whether by propagation, like the body, or apart from propagation, like that which was given to the first man, I do not know; God knows'? Whichever of these you want me to confirm, I could, if I knew. But if you yourself know, see, you have me more eager to learn what I do not know than to teach what I know. But if you do not know, as I do not, pray as I also pray that the Master may teach us, whether through any servant of his or through himself, he who said to his disciples, 'Do not wish to be called Rabbi by men; for one is your Master, Christ'; if indeed he knows that it is expedient for us to know such things too, he who knows not only what he teaches but also what it is expedient for us to learn.

2 Cor 12:2 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 23:10 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine defends suspending judgment on the soul's origin, following Paul's 'I do not know; God knows'.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Missing space.): data est;nescio → data est; nescio.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.15 (CSEL 56:302–303; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-15).

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144.16CSEL 56:303–304

Nam confiteor dilectioni tuae cupiditatem meam: cupio quidem et hoc scire, quod quaeris, sed multo magis cuperem scire, si fieri posset, quando praesentetur desideratus omnibus gentibus et quando regnum sanctorum futurum sit, quam unde in hanc terram uenire coeperim. et tamen illud cum ab illo, qui scit omnia, discipuli sui, nostri apostoli, quaererent, responsum acceperunt: non est uestrum scire tempora, quae pater posuit in sua potestate. quid, si et hoc scit non esse nostrum scire, qui profecto scit, quid nobis sit utile scire? et illud quidem per illum scio non esse nostrum scire tempora, quae pater posuit in sua potestate, utrum autem originem animarum, quam nondum scio, nostrum sit scire, id est pertineat ad nos id scire, ne hoc quidem scio. nam si saltem hoc scirem, quod nostrum non sit id scire, non solum adfirmare, quam diu nescio, uerum etiam quaerere iam desisterem. nunc autem, quamuis tam sit obscurum atque profundum, ut plus illic docendi caueam temeritatem, quam discendi habeam cupiditatem, tamen etiam hoc uolo scire, si possum. et licet multo amplius sit necessarium, quod ait ille sanctus: notum mihi fac, domine, finem meum — non enim ait: initium meum —, utinam tamen nec initium meum, quod ad istam quaestionem attinet, me lateret!

For I confess my desire to your love: I do indeed desire to know this too which you ask; but I would much rather know, if it were possible, when he who is desired by all nations will appear and when the kingdom of the saints will come, than from where I began to come into this earth. And yet, when his disciples, our apostles, asked him who knows all things about this, they received the answer, 'It is not yours to know the times which the Father has set in his own power.' What if he knows that this too is not ours to know, he who surely knows what it is useful for us to know? And that it is not ours to know the times which the Father has set in his own power I know through him; but whether it is ours to know the origin of souls, which I do not yet know, that is, whether it belongs to us to know it, I do not even know this. For if I knew at least this, that it is not ours to know it, I would stop not only affirming, as long as I do not know, but also inquiring. But now, though it is so obscure and deep that I am more on guard against the rashness of teaching there than eager to learn, yet I wish to know this too, if I can. And although what that holy man says is much more necessary, 'Make known to me, Lord, my end' (for he does not say 'my beginning'), yet would that my beginning too, as far as this question is concerned, were not hidden from me!

Hag 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 1:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 39:4 (38:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine says he would rather know the time of Christ's coming than the origin of his soul, and is not even sure it is given us to know the latter.

  • 'He who is desired by all nations' is Hag 2:7 in its Latin form.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Letters spaced apart in the digital text.; Missing space.; Stray period inside a word.): acceper.unt → acceperunt; notum mihi f a c, d omi n e → notum mihi fac, domine; meum —,utinam → meum —, utinam.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.16 (CSEL 56:303–304; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-16).

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144.17CSEL 56:304

Uerum de ipso quoque initio meo ingratus doctori meo non sum, quod animam humanam spiritum esse, non corpus, eumque rationalem uel intellectualem scio nec eam dei esse naturam sed potius creaturam aliquatenus mortalem, in quantum in deterius commutari et a uita dei, cuius participatione beata fit, alienari potest, et aliquatenus inmortalem, quoniam sensum, quo ei post hanc uitam uel bene uel male sit, amittere non potest. scio etiam non eam pro actibus ante carnem gestis includi in carne meruisse, sed nec ideo esse in homine sine sorde peccati, etsi unius diei, sicut scriptum est, fuerit uita eius super terram. ac per hoc scio ex Adam per seriem generationis sine peccato neminem nasci, unde et paruulis necessarium est per gratiam regenerationis in Christo renasci. haec tam multa nec parua de initio uel origine animarum nostrarum, in quibus plura sunt ad eam scientiam pertinentia, quae fide constant, et didicisse me gratulor et nosse confirmo. quapropter si nescio in origine animarum, utrum illas deus hominibus ex propagine an sine propagine faciat, quas tamen ab ipso fieri non ambigo, scire quidem et hoc magis eligo quam nescire, sed, quam diu non possum, melius hinc dubito, quam uelut certum confirmare aliquid audeo, quod illi rei sit forte contrarium, de qua dubitare forte non debeo.

Yet even about my beginning I am not ungrateful to my Teacher, for I know that the human soul is spirit, not body, and that it is rational or intellectual; and that it is not the nature of God but rather a creature, in some measure mortal, inasmuch as it can be changed for the worse and alienated from the life of God, by participation in which it is made happy, and in some measure immortal, since it cannot lose the sense by which, after this life, it fares well or ill. I know also that it did not deserve to be shut up in the flesh for acts done before the flesh; but yet that it is not therefore without the stain of sin in man, even if its life upon the earth, as it is written, has been of one day. And therefore I know that no one is born of Adam through the series of generation without sin, so that even little children must be reborn in Christ through the grace of regeneration. These things, so many and not small, about the beginning or origin of our souls, among which there are many belonging to that knowledge which rest on faith, I rejoice to have learned and I affirm that I know. Therefore, if I do not know, concerning the origin of souls, whether God makes them for men by propagation or without it, though I do not doubt that they are made by him, I do indeed prefer to know this too rather than not to know; but as long as I cannot, I had better doubt about it than dare to affirm as certain something which may perhaps be contrary to that about which perhaps I ought not to doubt.

Eph 4:18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Job 14:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Job 14:5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:5 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine lists what he knows about the soul, including that all are born in sin and need rebirth, but confesses that he does not know how souls originate.

  • 'Of one day' refers to Job 14:4–5 in its Greek form.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Stray letters.): super terram a m. ac per hoc → super terram. ac per hoc.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.17 (CSEL 56:304; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-17).

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144.18CSEL 56:304–305

Tu itaque, mi frater bone, quoniam consulis me et uis, ut unum horum definiam, utrum animae ceterae ex illo uno homine sicut corpora per propaginem an sine propagine sicut illius unius a creatore singulis singulae fiant — ab ipso enim fieri siue sic siue sic non negamus —, patere, ut etiam ipse consulam, quomodo inde anima peccatum originaliter trahat, unde originaliter ipsa non trahitur. omnes enim animas ex Adam trahere originale peccatum similiter non negamus, ne in Pelagianam heresim detestabilem detestabiliter inruamus. si hoc, quod ego interrogo, nec tu scis, sine me patienter utrumque nescire, et quod tu interrogas et quod ego; si autem iam scis, quod interrogo, cum hoc etiam me docueris, tunc et illud, quod uis ut respondeam, nihil ibi iam metuens respondebo. peto ergo, ne suscenseas, quia non potui confirmare, quod quaeris, sed potui demonstrare, quid quaeras, quod cum inueneris, confirmare non dubites, quod quaerebas.

You then, my good brother, since you consult me and want me to settle one of these, whether the other souls are made, one for each, from that one man by propagation, like bodies, or without propagation, like the soul of that one man, by the Creator (for we do not deny that they are made by him in either case), allow me also to consult you: how the soul draws sin by origin from that from which it is not itself drawn by origin. For we likewise do not deny that all souls draw original sin from Adam, lest we rush detestably into the detestable Pelagian heresy. If you too do not know what I ask, let me patiently be ignorant of both, both what you ask and what I ask; but if you already know what I ask, when you have taught me this, then I will answer what you want me to answer, no longer fearing anything there. So I ask you not to be angry that I could not confirm what you ask, but could show what you should ask; and when you have found it, do not hesitate to confirm what you were asking.

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Summary: Augustine turns the question back on Optatus: how can a soul inherit Adam's sin if it is not itself derived from Adam?

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.18 (CSEL 56:304–305; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-18).

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144.19CSEL 56:305

Et hoc quidem sanctitati tuae scribendum existimaui, qui propaginem animarum iam quasi certus inprobandam putas. ceterum si illis, qui hanc adserunt, rescribendum fuisset, fortassis ostenderem, quem ad modum id, quod se nosse arbitrantur, ignorent et, ne hoc adserere auderent, quanta ratione formidare deberent.

And this I thought I should write to your holiness, since you think, as if already certain, that the propagation of souls should be rejected. But if I had had to write back to those who assert it, perhaps I would show how they do not know what they think they know, and with how much reason they ought to fear to dare to assert it.

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Summary: Augustine adds that he could equally show the defenders of inherited souls that their view is not proven.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.19 (CSEL 56:305; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-19).

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144.20CSEL 56:305–306

Sane in rescripto amici, quod huic epistulae inserui, ne te forte moueat, quod duos libros a me missos commemorauit, quibus respondere uacuum sibi tempus non fuisse respondit, unus est de hac quaestione, non ambo; in alio autem aliud ab illo consulendo et pertractando quaesiui. quod uero admonet et hortatur, ut magis demus operam, ut perniciosissima heresis de ecclesiis auferatur, illam ipsam Pelagianam heresim dicit, quam cautissime ut deuites, quantum possum, frater, admoneo, cum de animarum origine siue cogitas siue iam disputas, ne tibi subrepat esse credendum ullam prorsus animam nisi unius mediatoris non ex Adam trahere originale peccatum generatione deuinctum, regeneratione soluendum.

Certainly, in my friend's reply which I have inserted in this letter, lest it perhaps trouble you that he mentioned two books sent by me, which he replied he had had no free time to answer: one is on this question, not both; in the other I asked him, for consultation and discussion, about something else. And when he warns and urges that we should rather strive that a most pernicious heresy be removed from the churches, he means that very Pelagian heresy, which I warn you, brother, as far as I can, to avoid most carefully when you either think or argue about the origin of souls, lest it steal upon you that you should believe that any soul at all, except that of the one Mediator, does not draw from Adam original sin, bound by generation, to be loosed by regeneration.

1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine explains that only one of the two books he sent Jerome concerned the soul, and warns Optatus against the Pelagian denial of original sin.

  • The two books are Augustine's Letters 166 and 167 (Letters 131 and 132 in this collection).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: letter dropped.): perniciosisima → perniciosissima.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Ep. 132 (Letters; allusion)

Topics: Heresy, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 144.20 (CSEL 56:305–306; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-144-20).

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Chapter 145

145.1CSEL 56:306

Inter omnia, quae mihi sancti fratris Quintiliani amicitiae praestiterunt, hoc uel maximum est, quod te mihi ignotum corpore mente sociauit. quis enim non diligat eum, qui sub paludamento et habitu militari agat opera prophetarum et exteriorem hominem aliud promittentem uincat interiore homine, qui conformatus est ad imaginem creatoris? unde et prior ad officium prouoco litterarum et precor, ut mihi occasionem saepius tribuas rescribendi, quo de cetero scribam audacius.

Among all the benefits that my friendship with the holy brother Quintilian has brought me, this is perhaps the greatest: that he has joined you to me in mind, though in body you are unknown to me. For who would not love a man who, under the general's cloak and in military dress, does the works of the prophets, and who overcomes the outer man, which promises something else, by the inner man, which has been formed after the image of the Creator? So I am the first to challenge you to the duty of letter-writing, and I ask that you often give me occasion to write back, so that from now on I may write more boldly.

Col 3:10 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:16 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Jerome greets Exuperantius, a soldier he knows only through his brother Quintilian, and asks him to correspond.

  • Letter 145 is addressed to Exuperantius, a Roman soldier.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 145.1 (CSEL 56:306; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-145-1).

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145.2CSEL 56:306

illud autem prudentiae tuae breuiter significasse sufficiat, ut memineris apostolicae sententiae: uinctus es, inquit, uxori? ne quaeras solutionem; solutus es? ne quaeras uxorem, idest alligationem, quae solutioni contraria est. qui igitur seruit officio coniugali, uinctus est; qui uinctus est, seruus est; qui autem solutus est, liber est.

For the present let it suffice to point out briefly to your prudence that you should remember the apostle's saying: “Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be loosed. Are you loosed? Do not seek a wife”, that is, a binding, which is the opposite of loosing. So whoever serves the duty of marriage is bound; whoever is bound is a slave; but whoever is loosed is free.

1 Cor 7:27 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Jerome reminds Exuperantius of Paul's advice that the unmarried should not seek a wife.

Topics: Marriage

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 145.2 (CSEL 56:306; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-145-2).

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145.3CSEL 56:306–307

cum ergo Christi gaudeas libertate et aliud agas, aliud repromittas ac propemodum in domate constitutus sis, non debes ad tollendam tunicam tecta descendere nec respicere postergum nec aratri semel arrepti stiuam dimittere, sed, si fieri potest, imitare Ioseph et Aegyptiae dominae pallium derelinque, ut nudus sequaris dominum saluatorem, qui dicit in euangelio: nisi quis tulerit crucem suam et secutus me fuerit, non potest meus esse discipulus.

Since, then, you rejoice in the freedom of Christ, and your way of life is one thing while your profession promises another, and you are all but standing on the housetop, you ought not to come down from the roof to take your tunic, nor look back, nor let go the handle of the plough once you have grasped it. Rather, if it can be done, imitate Joseph and leave your cloak with the Egyptian mistress, so that naked you may follow the Lord and Saviour, who says in the gospel: “Unless someone takes up his cross and follows me, he cannot be my disciple.”

Matt 24:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 24:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 9:62 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 39:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 14:27 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Jerome urges Exuperantius to leave worldly ties behind and follow Christ without looking back.

  • The phrase aliud agas, aliud repromittas is compressed: his life (as a Christian) and his outward profession (as a soldier) point different ways; the sense is taken from 145.1.

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 145.3 (CSEL 56:306–307; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-145-3).

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145.4CSEL 56:307

proice sarcinam saeculi, ne quaeras diuitias, quae camelorum prauitatibus conparantur. nudus et leuis ad caelum uola, ne alas uirtutum tuarum auri deprimant pondera. hoc autem dico, non quo te auarum didicerim, sed subintellegam idcirco adhuc militiae operam dare, ut impleas sacculum, quem euacuari dominus praecepit. si igitur, qui habent possessiones et diuitias, iubentur omnia uendere et dare pauperibus et sic sequi saluatorem, dignatio tua aut diues est et debet facere, quod praeceptum est, aut adhuc tenuis et non debet quaerere, quod erogatura est.

Throw off the burden of the world; do not seek riches, which are compared to the deformities of camels. Fly to heaven naked and light, so that the weight of gold may not drag down the wings of your virtues. I do not say this because I have learned that you are greedy, but because I suspect that you are still serving in the army for this reason: to fill the purse which the Lord commanded to be emptied. If, then, those who have possessions and riches are commanded to sell everything and give to the poor and so follow the Saviour, your worship is either rich, and ought to do what is commanded, or still of slender means, and ought not to seek what it will have to give away.

Matt 19:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 12:33 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 19:21 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Jerome warns Exuperantius against amassing wealth that Christ commands to be given away.

  • “Deformities of camels” refers to the saying about the camel and the needle's eye; prauitates probably means the camel's humps.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 145.4 (CSEL 56:307; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-145-4).

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145.5CSEL 56:307–308

certe Christus pro animi uoluntate omnia in acceptum refert. nemo apostolis pauperior fuit et nemo tantum pro domino dereliquit. uidua illa in euangelio paupercula, quae duo minuta misit in gazophylacium, cunctis praefertur diuitibus, quia totum, quod habuit, dedit. et tu igitur eroganda non quaeras, sed quaesita iam tribue, ut fortissimum tirunculum suum Christus agnoscat, ut laetus tibi de longissima regione uenienti occurrat pater, ut stolam tribuat, ut donet anulum, ut immolet pro te uitulum saginatum, ut expeditum cum sancto fratre Quintiliano ad nos cito faciat nauigare. pulsaui amicitiarum fores; si aperueris, nos crebro habebis hospites.

Certainly Christ credits everything according to the will of the mind. No one was poorer than the apostles, and no one left so much for the Lord. The poor widow in the gospel, who put two small coins into the treasury, is preferred to all the rich, because she gave all that she had. So you too should not seek what must be given away, but give away what you have already acquired, so that Christ may recognize you as his bravest young recruit; so that the Father may run joyfully to meet you as you come from a far country, give you the robe, give you the ring, and kill the fatted calf for you; so that he may quickly make you, unencumbered, sail to us with the holy brother Quintilian. I have knocked at the doors of friendship; if you open, you will often have me as a guest.

Mark 12:42 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 12:44 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 21:2 (allusion, medium confidence) · Luke 15:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 15:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 15:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Rev 3:20 (echo, low confidence)

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Summary: Jerome urges Exuperantius to give away what he has and join him with his brother.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Jerome, Ep. 145.5 (CSEL 56:307–308; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/jerome-epistulae/144-1/#p-145-5).

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