The Conferences 8.13–9.1

Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 13 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig (CSEL 13, 1886), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 11 (1894).

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Chapter 8

8.13CSEL 13:228–230

Has namque inpugnationes quibus homines inpetunt etiam contra se inuicem eos adfectare certissimum est. nam discordias atque conflictus super nonnullis gentibus pro quadam sibi nequitiae uernacula familiaritate susceptis indefesso certamine similiter exercere non desinunt. quod etiam in uisione Danihelis prophetae manifestissime legimus figuratum, angelo Gabrihele ita narrante: noli timere Danihel: quia ex die primo, quo posuisti cor tuum intellegendum ut te adfligeres in conspectu dei tui, exaudita sunt uerba tua et ego ueni propter sermones tuos. princeps autem regni Persarum restitit mihi uiginti et uno diebus: et ecce Michael unus de principibus primis uenit in adiutorium meum, et ego remansi ibi iuxta regem Persarum. ueni autem ut docerem te quae uentura sunt populo tuo in nouissimis diebus. quem principem regni Persarum aduersam potestatem esse, quae fauebat genti Persarum inimicae populo dei, minime dubitandum est, quique ad inpediendam utilitatem, quam uidebat per absolutionem quaestionis pro qua propheta dominum exorauerat ab archangelo ministrandam, liuens semet ipsum, ne ocius ad Danihelem salutaris angeli consolatio perueniret deique populum cui Gabrihel archangelus praeerat confortaret, obiecit. qui tamen ait ne tunc quidem ob inpugnationis illius uehementiam se ad eum peruenire potuisse, nisi in adiutorium sibi Michael archangelus aduenisset et occurrens principi regni Persarum seseque conflictui eius interserens et obponens eumque ab ipsius inpugnatione defendens ad instructionem prophetae post uicensimum et unum diem peruenire fecisset. et post pauca et ait, inquit, angelus: numquid scis quare uenerim ad te? et nunc reuertar ut proelier aduersus principem Persarum. cum enim ego egrederer, apparuit princeps Graecorum ueniens. uerumtamen adnuntiabo tibi quod expressum est in scriptura ueritatis: et nemo est adiutor meus in his omnibus, nisi Michael princeps uester. et iterum: in tempore illo consurget Michael princeps magnus, qui stat pro filiis populi tui. legimus ergo Graecorum quoque principem similiter alium nuncupari, qui utique fauens genti sibi subditae tam populo Israheli quam nationi Persarum uidebatur aduersus. ex quo liquido peruidetur, quod discordias gentium et conflictus ac simultates, quas inter se istis instigantibus gerunt, etiam contra se aduersae exerceant potestates et illarum uel uictoria gaudeant uel deminutione crucientur et ob hoc non possint inter se esse concordes, dum unusquisque pro his quibus praeest contra alterius gentis praesulem inquieta semper aemulatione contendit.

“It is quite certain that they also direct against one another the attacks with which they assail men. For with unwearied strife they likewise never cease to carry on discords and conflicts over certain nations which they have taken under their care, as by a kind of native familiarity of wickedness. We read this most plainly figured in the vision of the prophet Daniel, when the angel Gabriel relates: ‘Do not fear, Daniel: for from the first day on which you set your heart to understand and to afflict yourself in the sight of your God, your words have been heard, and I have come because of your words. But the prince of the kingdom of the Persians withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I remained there beside the king of the Persians. But I have come to teach you what will come upon your people in the last days.’ It must by no means be doubted that this prince of the kingdom of the Persians is a hostile power which favored the nation of the Persians, enemy of the people of God. To hinder the benefit which he saw was to be brought by the archangel through the answer to the question for which the prophet had prayed to the Lord, he set himself in the way out of envy, lest the saving consolation of the angel should reach Daniel quickly and strengthen the people of God, over whom the archangel Gabriel was set. Yet Gabriel says that not even then could he have reached him because of the violence of that attack, had not the archangel Michael come to help him and, meeting the prince of the kingdom of the Persians, throwing himself into the conflict and opposing him, and defending Gabriel from his attack, enabled him to come after twenty-one days to instruct the prophet. And a little later: ‘And the angel said: Do you know why I have come to you? And now I will return to fight against the prince of the Persians. For when I was going out, the prince of the Greeks appeared, coming. But I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth; and there is no one who helps me in all these things except Michael your prince.’ And again: ‘At that time Michael shall arise, the great prince, who stands for the sons of your people.’ We read, then, that another is likewise called the prince of the Greeks, who, favoring the nation subject to him, seemed hostile both to the people of Israel and to the nation of the Persians. From this it is clearly seen that the hostile powers also carry on among themselves the discords, conflicts, and rivalries of the nations which these wage with one another at their instigation, and either rejoice in their victory or are tormented by their defeat; and therefore they cannot be in harmony among themselves, as each contends with restless rivalry on behalf of those over whom he is set against the ruler of another nation.”

Dan 10:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 10:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 10:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 10:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 10:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 12:1 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Hostile powers are set over nations and fight one another, as the prince of Persia and the prince of Greece in Daniel oppose Gabriel and Michael.

  • Dan 10:12–14, 20–21; Dan 12:1.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (n for u); stray mark): quem principem regni Persarum aduerunam potestatem → quem principem regni Persarum aduersam potestatem; ministrandam, linens semet ipsum → ministrandam, liuens semet ipsum; ne tmic quidem → ne tunc quidem; qui stat pro: filiis → qui stat pro filiis.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.13 (CSEL 13:228–230; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.14CSEL 13:230–231

Hos ergo praeter illas quas superius exposuimus opiniones etiam idcirco dici principatus uel potestates euidenti possumus ratione colligere, quod scilicet uel diuersis gentibus dominentur ac praesint, uel certe quod in inferiores spiritus atque daemonia, de quibus etiam euangelia legiones esse propria ipsorum confessione testantur, suos exerant principatus. non enim dominationes dici possunt, nisi habeant in quos dicionem suae dominationis exerceant, nec potestates aut principatus uocari queunt, nisi fuerint super quos sibi uindicent principatus. quod etiam in euangelio designari a blasphemantibus Pharisaeis manifestissime repperimus: in Beelzebub principe daemoniorum hic eicit daemones. nam et rectores tenebrarum legimus appellari et alium mundi huius principem nuncupari. quos tamen gradus beatus apostolus in futurum, cum omnia fuerint Christo subiecta, adserit uacuandos cum tradiderit, inquiens, regnum deo et patri, cum euacuauerit omnem principatum et potestatem et dominationem. quod utique non aliter fiet, nisi fuerint de ipsorum dicione sublati, supra quos in hoc saeculo potestates seu dominationes uel principatus administrare noscuntur.

“Besides the opinions we set out above, then, we can gather by clear reasoning that they are called principalities or powers for this reason too: either because they rule and preside over different nations, or else because they exercise their rule over inferior spirits and demons, who, as the Gospels testify by their own confession, are legions. For they cannot be called dominions unless they have those over whom they exercise the rule of their dominion; nor can they be called powers or principalities unless there are those over whom they claim their principality for themselves. We find this most plainly indicated in the Gospel by the blaspheming Pharisees: ‘He casts out demons by Beelzebub, the prince of the demons.’ For we also read that they are called rulers of darkness, and another is named the prince of this world. Yet the blessed apostle asserts that these grades will be made void in the future, when all things have been subjected to Christ: ‘When he has handed over the kingdom to God the Father,’ he says, ‘when he has made void all principality and power and dominion.’ This will certainly not happen otherwise than by taking away from their rule those over whom they are known to exercise powers, dominions, or principalities in this age.”

Mark 5:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 12:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 6:12 (allusion, high confidence) · John 12:31 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:24 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The fallen powers are called principalities because they rule over nations or lesser demons; Christ will abolish their rule at the end.

  • Mark 5:9; Matt 12:24; Eph 6:12; John 12:31; 1 Cor 15:24.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): in eoangelio → in euangelio; adserit uaonandos cum tradiderit, inquiens, regcum deo → adserit uacuandos cum tradiderit, inquiens, regnum deo.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.14 (CSEL 13:230–231; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.15CSEL 13:231

Nam quia bonae parti eadem ordinum uocabula non sine ratione causaue sint indita et officiorum uel meritorum seu dignitatum sint nomina, nulli dubium est. etenim de officio nuntiandi angelos, id est nuntios manifestum est appellari et archangelos eo quod ipsis angelis praesint, nominis ipsius proprietas docet, dominationes etiam ab eo quod quibusdam dominentur, principatus quoque quod habeant quorum sint principes, et sedes quod ita scilicet deo cohaereant et domesticae ac familiares ei sint, ut in ipsis uelut in quadam sede diuina maiestas peculiarius requiescat et quodammodo in eis firmius reclinetur.

“For no one doubts that the same names of orders have not been given to the good side without reason or cause, and that they are names of offices, merits, or dignities. For it is plain that angels, that is, messengers, are so called from the office of announcing; the very meaning of the name teaches that archangels are so called because they are set over the angels; dominions, because they rule over some; principalities too, because they have those of whom they are princes; and thrones, because they cling so closely to God and are so much of his household and family that the divine majesty rests in a special way in them as on a kind of throne, and in a way reclines more firmly on them.”

Col 1:16 (echo, medium confidence)

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Summary: The names of the good angelic orders describe their offices: messengers, rulers of angels, dominions, principalities, and thrones on which God's majesty rests.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (word split): archangel os eo quod → archangelos eo quod.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.15 (CSEL 13:231; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.16CSEL 13:231–233

Regi autem inmundos spiritus a nequioribus potestatibus eisque esse subiectos praeter illa scripturarum testimonia, quae in euangeliis quoque calumniantibus Pharisaeis domini legimus responsione descripta: si ego in Beelzebub principe daemoniorum eicio daemones, etiam perspicuae uisiones et experimenta sanctorum multa nos edocent. nam cum unus e fratribus nostris in hac solitudine iter ageret, aduesperante iam die antrum quoddam repperiens ibidem substitit, uespertinam uolens in eo synaxin celebrare: ubi dum psalmos ex more decantat, tempus mediae noctis excessit. cumque finita sollemnitate refecturus lassum corpus paululum resedisset, repente coepit cateruas daemonum undique confluentium innumerabiles intueri, quae infinita constipatione atque ordine longissimo procedentes aliae praeibant principem suum, aliae sequebantur. qui tandem aliquando et magnitudine procerior cunctis et aspectu terribilior aduenit, ac posito solio cum in tribunali quodam sublimissimo consedisset, uniuscuiusque actus diligenti coepit examinatione discutere: illosque qui necdum se circumuenire aemulos suos potuisse dicebant uelut inertes ignauosque a conspectu suo cum nota et iniuria iubebat expelli, spatia temporis tanti et opus inaniter inpensum cum fremitu furoris exprobrans, illos uero qui se nuntiabant consignatos sibimet decepisse summis laudibus cum exultatione ac fauore cunctorum ut fortissimos bellatores ad exemplum cunctorum gloriosissimos coram omnibus emittebat. in quorum numero cum quidam nequissimus spiritus, utpote quendam triumphum sublimissimum delaturus, laetior aduenisset, nomen monachi optime cogniti designauit, adserens post quindecim annos quibus eum iugiter obsedisset tandem aliquando se praeualuisse, ut eum eadem ipsa nocte ruina fornicationis elideret: nam cum quadam sacra puella non solum inpulisse ut stupri crimen incurreret, sed etiam persuasisse ut eam sibimet iure coniugii retentaret. super cuius relatione cum inmane cunctorum gaudium fuisset exortum, summis a principe tenebrarum laudibus eleuatus magnisque praeconiis coronatus abscessit. aurora itaque superueniente cum omnis ab oculis euanuisset daemonum multitudo, dubitans frater de adsertione spiritus inmundi magisque id ratus quod inolita consuetudinis suae fallacia sibi uoluisset inludere et innocenti fratri inurere crimen incesti, memor euangelicae sententiae, quod in ueritate non stetit, quia non est ueritas in eo: cum loquitur mendacium, de propriis loquitur, quia mendax est et pater eius, Pelusium petit, ubi illum quem spiritus inmundus adseruit esse deiectum nouerat conmorari. erat siquidem illi etiam notissimus frater. quem cum requisisset, repperit, quod eadem nocte, qua taeterrimus ille daemon ruinam eius suae cohorti uel principi nuntiarat, monasterio pristino derelicto uicum petisset et cum designata puella fuisset lapsu miserabili deuolutus.

“That unclean spirits are ruled by more wicked powers and are subject to them, besides those testimonies of the Scriptures which we read described in the Lord's answer to the slandering Pharisees in the Gospels, ‘If I cast out demons by Beelzebub, the prince of the demons,’ many clear visions and experiences of the saints also teach us. For when one of our brothers was travelling in this wilderness, as day was already drawing to evening he found a cave and stopped there, wishing to celebrate the evening synaxis in it. While he was singing the psalms there according to custom, the time passed midnight. And when, the service finished, he had sat down a little to rest his tired body, suddenly he began to see countless troops of demons flocking together from all sides. Coming forward in an endless throng and a very long line, some went before their prince and others followed. At last he arrived, taller than all in stature and more terrible in appearance, and, a throne having been set, sat down on a very lofty tribunal and began to examine the acts of each one with careful scrutiny. Those who said they had not yet been able to get the better of their opponents he ordered to be driven from his sight with disgrace and insult, as idle and sluggish, reproaching them with the roar of fury for so much time and labor spent in vain. But those who reported that they had deceived those assigned to them he sent out before all, with the highest praise and with the exultation and applause of all, as the bravest warriors and most glorious, as an example to all. Among them a most wicked spirit came up more joyful, as one about to report a most sublime triumph, and named a monk who was very well known, asserting that after fifteen years in which he had constantly besieged him, he had at last prevailed so as to throw him down that very night by the fall of sexual immorality: for he had not only driven him to commit the crime of sexual immorality with a certain consecrated virgin, but had also persuaded him to keep her for himself by right of marriage. At his report an immense joy arose among them all, and he departed, raised up by the prince of darkness with the highest praises and crowned with great commendations. So, when dawn came and the whole multitude of demons had vanished from his eyes, the brother, doubting the assertion of the unclean spirit, and thinking rather that it had wished to deceive him by the ingrained falsehood of its habit and to brand an innocent brother with the crime of unchastity, remembering the saying of the Gospel, ‘He did not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him; when he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar, and his father,’ went to Pelusium, where he knew the one the unclean spirit said had fallen was living; for the brother was very well known to him too. When he inquired about him, he found that on the same night on which that most foul demon had announced his fall to his troop and prince, he had left his former monastery, gone to the village, and fallen in a miserable lapse with the woman who had been named.”

Matt 12:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:44 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: A monk spending the night in a cave saw a council of demons reporting to their prince; one boasted of having led a well-known monk to sin with a consecrated virgin and marry her, which the monk found at Pelusium to be true.

  • Matt 12:27; John 8:44 (Cassian's Latin reads “for he is a liar, and his father,” discussed in 8.20 and 8.25). “Consecrated virgin” (sacra puella): a woman vowed to virginity. stuprum is rendered “sexual immorality” per the site's usage.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): cum inmane cunctorum gaudium fuisset eIorturn → cum inmane cunctorum gaudium fuisset exortum; aurora itaque superuenienfce com omnis → aurora itaque superueniente cum omnis.

Topics: Marriage

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.16 (CSEL 13:231–233; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.17CSEL 13:233–234

Nam quod unicuique nostrum duo cohaereant angeli, id est bonus ac malus, scriptura testatur. et de bonis quidem saluator ne contemnatis, inquiens, unum ex pusillis istis: dico enim uobis quod angeli eorum in caelis semper uident faciem patris mei qui in caelis est. illud quoque: inmittet angelus domini in circuitu timentium eum: et eripiet eos, nec non etiam quod in Actibus apostolorum de Petro dicitur, quia angelus eius est. de utrisque uero liber Pastoris plenissime docet. si autem consideremus et illum qui beatum Iob expetiit, apertissime instruimur illum fuisse, qui semper insidiatus ei numquam eum ad peccatum potuerit incitare, et idcirco potestatem a domino poposcisse, uelut qui non uirtute illius, sed domini defensione qui illum semper protexerit uinceretur. de Iuda quoque dicitur: et diabolus stet a dextris eius.

“For Scripture testifies that two angels are joined to each of us, that is, a good one and a bad one. Of the good ones the Savior says: ‘Do not despise one of these little ones; for I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.’ Also: ‘The angel of the Lord will encamp around those who fear him, and will deliver them’; and also what is said of Peter in the Acts of the Apostles: ‘It is his angel.’ Of both kinds the book of the Shepherd teaches most fully. And if we consider the one who sought the blessed Job, we are most plainly taught that it was he who, always lying in wait for him, could never incite him to sin, and therefore asked the Lord for power, as one who was being defeated not by Job's strength but by the Lord's defence, which always protected him. Of Judas too it is said: ‘And let the devil stand at his right hand.’”

Matt 18:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 34:7 (33:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 12:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 109:6 (108:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Each person has a good and a bad angel, as Scripture and the Shepherd of Hermas teach; the adversary who sought Job had always lain in wait for him.

  • Matt 18:10; Ps 34:7 (33:8 LXX); Acts 12:15; Hermas, Mandate 6.2 (the two angels of righteousness and wickedness); Job 1:9–12; Ps 109:6 (108:6 LXX), applied to Judas.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray mark): et eripiet eos., nec non → et eripiet eos, nec non.

Extrabiblical texts: Herm. Mand. 6.2 (Shepherd of Hermas: Mandates; allusion)

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.17 (CSEL 13:233–234; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.18CSEL 13:234–235

De differentiis sane daemonum etiam per illos duos philosophos, qui quondam magicis artibus uel inertiam eorum uel fortitudinem saeuamque nequitiam fuerant frequenter experti, multum cognitionis accepimus. hi namque despicientes beatum Antonium uelut inperitum ac sine litteris uirum uolentesque eum, si nihil amplius laedere potuissent, saltim de cella sua magicis praestigiis et circumuentione daemonum proturbare, spiritus ei nequissimos inmiserunt, ad inpugnationem hanc morsu liuoris adducti, eo quod maximae hominum turbae ad eum uelut famulum dei cotidie conuenirent. cumque illo nunc quidem inprimente pectori suo frontique signaculum crucis, nunc uero orationi suppliciter incubante ne adproximare quidem dirissimi daemones eidem prorsus auderent atque ad eos qui illos direxerant absque ullo reuerterentur effectu et alios illi in nequitia uehementiores rursus inmitterent itidemque ipsis in cassum suas expendentibus uires atque inaniter redeuntibus potentiores nihilominus aduersus militem Christi uictorem iterum destinati nihil penitus praeualerent, eo profecerunt tales tantaeque eorum insidiae tota magica quaesitae, ut per haec euidentissime conprobarent magnam professioni Christianorum inesse uirtutem, quibus illae tam saeuae et tam potentes umbrae, quas aestimabant solem lunamque, si ad eas directae fuissent obducere potuisse, hunc non solum nihil laedere, sed ne ad punctum quidem de monasterio suo ualuerint proturbare.

“About the differences of demons we have also learned much from those two philosophers who had once often experienced, through their magic arts, either their sluggishness or their strength and savage wickedness. For they despised the blessed Antony as an unskilled and unlettered man, and wished, if they could harm him in nothing more, at least to drive him out of his cell by magic tricks and the snares of demons; so they sent the most wicked spirits against him, led to this attack by the bite of envy, because very great crowds of people came to him every day as to a servant of God. And when, as he now pressed the sign of the cross on his breast and forehead, now applied himself humbly to prayer, those most savage demons did not dare even to come near him, and returned without any effect to those who had sent them; and when they sent against him others more violent in wickedness, and these too spent their strength in vain and returned empty; and when stronger ones again, sent against the victorious soldier of Christ, prevailed not at all, all these great snares of theirs, sought with all their magic, went so far that by them they proved most plainly that there is great power in the Christian profession, since those shades, so savage and so powerful, which they thought could have darkened the sun and moon if they had been sent against them, could not only do him no harm at all but could not even drive him from his monastery for a moment.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Two philosophers sent ever stronger demons against Antony by magic, but the sign of the cross and prayer repelled them all, proving the power of the Christian profession.

  • A similar story is told in the Life of Antony.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slips): magnam profeseioni ChristianoTQm → magnam professioni Christianorum.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.18 (CSEL 13:234–235; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.19CSEL 13:235–236

Cumque pro hac admiratione confestim uenientes ad abbatem Antonium inpugnationum suarum magnitudinem et causas atque insidias patefecissent liuoris occulti, Christianos se fieri protinus poposcerunt. requisito autem ab illis proditae inpugnationis die adseruit se amarissimis cogitationum stimulis tunc fuisse pulsatum. quo experimento sententiam nostram quam hesterno die in conlatione protulimus probauit ac definiuit beatus Antonius, nullatenus daemonas posse mentem cuiusquam uel corpus inuadere nec habere facultatem in cuiuslibet animam penitus inruendi, nisi eam primo destituerint omnibus cogitationibus sanctis ac spiritali contemplatione uacuam nudamque reddiderint. sciendum tamen duobus modis spiritus inmundos hominibus oboedire. aut enim sanctitati fidelium diuina gratia ac uirtute subduntur aut sacrificiis inpiorum seu quibusdam carminibus deleniti uelut familiaribus adulantur. qua opinione Pharisaei quoque decepti arbitrati sunt etiam dominum saluatorem hac arte daemoniis imperasse, dicentes: in Beelzebub principe daemoniorum hic eicit daemones, secundum illam scilicet consuetudinem, qua norant suos magos uel maleficos per inuocationem nominis illius ac ritum sacrificiorum, quo eum delectari et gaudere cognoscunt, uelut domesticos eius habere etiam in daemonas ei subditos potestatem.

“In wonder at this, they came at once to Abba Antony, laid open the greatness of their attacks and the causes and snares of their hidden envy, and asked at once to become Christians. When he asked them the day of the attack they had revealed, he declared that he had then been assailed by the most bitter goads of thoughts. By this experience the blessed Antony proved and defined the view we put forward yesterday in the conference: that demons can by no means invade anyone's mind or body, nor have the power to rush into anyone's soul at all, unless they have first stripped it of all holy thoughts and made it empty and bare of spiritual contemplation. It must be known, however, that unclean spirits obey men in two ways. Either they are subjected by divine grace and power to the holiness of the faithful, or, soothed by the sacrifices of the impious or by certain incantations, they flatter them as their familiars. Deceived by this opinion, the Pharisees too thought that the Lord and Savior commanded the demons by this art, saying: ‘He casts out demons by Beelzebub, the prince of the demons’; according, that is, to that custom by which they knew that their magicians or sorcerers, by invoking his name and by the rite of sacrifices in which they knew he delighted and rejoiced, had power, as his household, even over the demons subject to him.”

Matt 12:24 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The philosophers became Christians; Antony had felt the attack only as bitter thoughts, confirming that demons cannot seize a soul not first emptied of holy thoughts. Demons obey either the holiness of the faithful or the sacrifices and spells of magicians.

  • Matt 12:24.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): proditae inpuenationis die → proditae inpugnationis die; probauit ae definiuit → probauit ac definiuit; decepti arbitrati; sunt → decepti arbitrati sunt; aelnt domesticos eius → uelut domesticos eius.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.19 (CSEL 13:235–236; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.20CSEL 13:236

GERMANVS: Quia Geneseos lectio paulo ante in medium dei dispensatione prolata est, quae nos oportune commonuit, ut id quod semper discere cupiebamus nunc possimus congrue sciscitari, quid etiam de illis apostatis angelis sentiendum sit optamus agnoscere, qui se cum filiabus hominum miscuisse dicuntur, utrum hoc possit spiritali naturae secundum litteram conuenire. illud quoque euangelii testimonium quod de diabolo paulo ante dixisti: quia mendax est et pater eius similiter desideramus audire quinam eius pater intellegendus sit.

Germanus: “Since the reading of Genesis was brought forward a little earlier by God's arrangement, which has fittingly reminded us that we may now suitably ask what we have always wanted to learn, we wish to know what we are to think also of those apostate angels who are said to have mingled with the daughters of men, and whether this can be fitting for a spiritual nature according to the letter. We likewise wish to hear about that testimony of the Gospel which you cited a little earlier concerning the devil, ‘for he is a liar, and his father’: who is to be understood as his father?”

Gen 6:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 8:44 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Germanus asks about the angels said to have married the daughters of men (Gen 6), and about who is meant by the devil's “father” in John 8:44.

  • Gen 6:2; John 8:44.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.20 (CSEL 13:236; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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8.21CSEL 13:236–241

SERENVS: Duas quaestiones non mediocres pariter protulistis, de quibus quantum possum eodem quo proposuistis ordine respondebo. nullo modo credendum est spiritales naturas coire cum feminis carnaliter posse. quodsi aliquando hoc secundum litteram fieri potuisset, quomodo nunc quoque id ipsum non uel raro contingeret et absque semine uel coitu uiri aliquos nasci similiter de mulieribus conceptu daemonum cerneremus? cum praesertim constet eos libidinum sordibus admodum delectari, quas procul dubio per semet ipsos exercere quam per homines mallent, si id ullo modo posset inpleri, Ecclesiaste quoque id ipsum pronuntiante: quid est quod fuit? ipsum quod est: et quid est quod factum est? ipsum quod fiet: et non est omne recens sub sole quod loquatur et dicat: ecce hoc nouum est, iam fuit in saeculis quae fuerunt ante nos. sed ita quaestio huius propositionis absoluitur. post necem Abel iusti, ne a fratricida et impio omne hominum genus exordium sumeret, in locum fratris extincti nascitur Seth, qui non solum posteritati sed etiam fraternae iustitiae pietatique succederet. cuius progenies patris secuta iustitiam a societate et coniunctione cognationis illius quae ex Cain sacrilego descendebat semper diuisa permansit, sicut etiam genealogiae discretio manifeste declarat ita dicens: Adam genuit Seth, Seth genuit Enos, Enos genuit Cainam, Cainam autem genuit Maleleel, Maleleel autem genuit Iaret, Iaret genuit Enoc, Enoc genuit Mathusalam, Mathusalam genuit Lamec, Lamec genuit Noe. item genealogia Cain ita diuisa describitur: Cain genuit Enoc, Enoc genuit Cainam, Cainam genuit Maleleel, Maleleel genuit Mathusalam, Mathusalam genuit Lamec, Lamec genuit Iobel et Iubal. itaque illa generatio quae de Seth iusti propagine descendebat suae lineae iugiter agnationique permixta in patrum atque ataui sanctitate longa aetate durauit, nequaquam scilicet sacrilegiis ac malitia nequissimae prolis infecta, quae in semet inpietatis germen uelut auita traditione retinebat insertum. donec ergo perseuerauit inter illos generationis eorum ista discretio, semen illud Seth, utpote de optima radice procedens, pro merito sanctitatis angeli dei siue ut diuersa exemplaria continent filii dei uocati sunt, et e contrario illi propter inpietatem uel suam uel patrum suorum et opera terrena filii hominum nuncupantur. cum esset ergo inter ipsos usque ad illud tempus haec utilis sanctaque diuisio, uidentes post haec filii Seth qui dei filii erant filias eorum qui de Cain progenie nascebantur desiderio pulchritudinis earum succensi acceperunt de ipsis sibimet uxores, quae uiris suis parentum suorum nequitias infundentes ab illa eos ingenita sanctitate ac simplicitate paterna protinus conruperunt. ad quos satis congrue directum est illud eloquium: ego dixi: dii estis, et filii excelsis omnes. uos autem sicut homines moriemini: et sicut unus de principibus cadetis, quique ab illa uera physicae philosophiae disciplina tradita sibi a maioribus exciderunt, quam primus homo ille, qui uniuersarum naturarum institutionem e uestigio subsecutus est, potuit euidenter adtingere suisque posteris certa ratione transmittere. quippe qui mundi ipsius infantiam adhuc teneram et quodammodo palpitantem rudemque conspexerat et in quem tanta fuit non solum sapientiae plenitudo, sed etiam gratia prophetiae diuina illa insufflatione transfusa, ut uniuersis animantibus nomina rudis adhuc mundi huius habitator inponeret ac non solum omnigenum bestiarum atque serpentum furores uirusque discerneret, sed etiam uirtutes herbarum et arborum lapidumque naturas ac temporum necdum expertorum uicissitudines partiretur, ita ut efficaciter potuerit dicere: dominus dedit mihi eorum, quae sunt, scientiam ueram: ut sciam dispositionem orbis terrarum et uirtutes elementorum, initium et consummationem et medietatem temporum, uicissitudinum inmutationes et diuisiones temporum, annorum cursus et stellarum dispositiones, naturas animalium iras bestiarum, uim spirituum et cogitationes hominum, differentias arborum et uirtutes radicum, et quaecumque sunt abscondita et in promptu cognoui. hanc ergo scientiam omnium naturarum per successiones generationum semen Seth paterna traditione suscipiens, donec diuisum a sacrilega propagine perdurauit, quemadmodum sancte perceperat, ita etiam uel ad dei cultum uel ad utilitatem uitae communis exercuit. cum uero impiae generationi fuisset admixtum, ad res profanas ac noxias quae pie didicerat instinctu quoque daemonum deriuauit curiosasque ex ea maleficiorum artes atque praestigias ac magicas superstitiones audaciter instituit, docens posteros suos, ut sacro illo cultu diuini numinis derelicto uel elementa haec uel ignem uel aerios daemonas uenerarentur et colerent. haec igitur quam diximus curiosarum rerum notitia quomodo in diluuio non perierit ac superuenientibus saeculis innotuerit, licet hoc minime absolutio propositae quaestionis exposcat, tamen, quia nos occasio huius expositionis admonuit, praestringendum breuiter puto. quantum itaque antiquae traditiones ferunt, Cham filius Noê, qui superstitionibus istis et sacrilegis ac profanis erat artibus institutus, sciens nullum se posse super his memorialem librum in arcam prorsus inferre, in qua erat una cum patre iusto ac sanctis fratribus ingressurus, scelestas artes ac profana conmenta diuersorum metallorum lamminis, quae scilicet aquarum conrumpi inundatione non possent, et durissimis lapidibus insculpsit. quae peracto diluuio eadem qua celauerat curiositate perquirens sacrilegiorum ac perpetuae nequitiae seminarium transmisit in posteros. hac itaque ratione illa uulgi opinio, qua credunt angelos uel maleficia uel diuersas artes hominibus tradidisse, in ueritate conpleta est. de illis ergo quemadmodum diximus filiis Seth et filiabus Cain nequiores filii procreati sunt, qui fuerunt robustissimi uenatores, uiolentissimi ac truculentissimi uiri, qui pro enormitate corporum uel crudelitatis atque malitiae gigantes nuncupati sunt. hi namque finitimos populari ac rapinas inter homines primi exercere coeperunt, praeda potius exigentes uitam suam quam sudore operis ac labore contenti, et quorum usque eo scelera supercreuerant, ut expiari mundus alias nisi diluuii inundatione non posset. ita ergo filiis Seth libidinis instigatione transgressis illud mandatum, quod ab exordio mundi huius naturali instinctu diutissime fuerat custoditum, necesse fuit per litteram legis postea reparari: filiam tuam non dabis filio eius uxorem nec de filiabus eorum accipies filio tuo, quia seducent corda uestra, ut discedatis a deo uestro et sequamini deos earum ac seruiatis eis.

Serenus: “You have put forward together two questions of no small weight, which I will answer as best I can in the same order in which you put them. It must by no means be believed that spiritual natures can have carnal intercourse with women. If this could ever have happened according to the letter, why would it not happen now too, at least rarely, and why would we not likewise see some born of women, conceived by demons, without the seed or intercourse of a man? Especially since it is certain that they delight greatly in the filth of lusts, which they would no doubt rather practise by themselves than through men, if this could in any way be done; and Ecclesiastes declares the same: ‘What is it that has been? The same that is. And what is it that has been done? The same that will be done. And there is nothing new under the sun, of which one may speak and say, See, this is new; it has already been in the ages that were before us.’ But the question put forward is solved thus. After the murder of the righteous Abel, lest the whole human race should take its beginning from a fratricide and an impious man, Seth was born in place of the slain brother, to succeed not only to his posterity but also to his brother's righteousness and piety. His descendants, following their father's righteousness, always remained separate from fellowship and union with the kindred that descended from the sacrilegious Cain, as the distinction of the genealogy also plainly shows, saying: ‘Adam begot Seth, Seth begot Enos, Enos begot Cainan, Cainan begot Mahalalel, Mahalalel begot Jared, Jared begot Enoch, Enoch begot Methuselah, Methuselah begot Lamech, Lamech begot Noah.’ Likewise the genealogy of Cain is described separately thus: ‘Cain begot Enoch, Enoch begot Cainan, Cainan begot Mahalalel, Mahalalel begot Methuselah, Methuselah begot Lamech, Lamech begot Jabal and Jubal.’ So that generation which descended from the stock of the righteous Seth, always intermarrying within its own line and kindred, continued for a long time in the holiness of its fathers and forefathers, never infected by the sacrileges and malice of that most wicked offspring, which kept the seed of impiety implanted in itself as if by ancestral tradition. As long as this distinction of their generations remained between them, that seed of Seth, as coming from the best root, was called, for the merit of its holiness, ‘angels of God,’ or, as other copies have it, ‘sons of God’; and on the contrary the others, because of their own or their fathers' impiety and their earthly works, were called ‘sons of men.’ While this useful and holy division existed between them up to that time, the sons of Seth, who were the sons of God, afterwards seeing the daughters of those born of the stock of Cain, and inflamed with desire for their beauty, took wives for themselves from them; and these, pouring their parents' wickedness into their husbands, at once corrupted them from that inborn holiness and ancestral simplicity. To them that saying is quite fittingly addressed: ‘I said, You are gods, and all of you sons of the Most High. But you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.’ They fell away from that true discipline of natural philosophy handed down to them by their forefathers, which that first man, who came immediately after the establishment of all natures, could plainly attain and hand on to his posterity by sure reasoning. For he had seen the infancy of the world itself, still tender and in a way throbbing and unformed; and there was in him not only so great a fullness of wisdom but also the grace of prophecy, poured in by that divine inbreathing, that as the first dweller in this still unformed world he gave names to all living creatures, and not only distinguished the rage and poisons of every kind of beast and serpent, but also set out the powers of herbs and trees, the natures of stones, and the changes of seasons not yet experienced; so that he could truly say: ‘The Lord has given me true knowledge of the things that are, that I may know the arrangement of the world and the powers of the elements, the beginning and end and middle of times, the changes of the seasons and the divisions of times, the courses of the years and the arrangements of the stars, the natures of animals and the rages of beasts, the force of winds and the thoughts of men, the differences of trees and the powers of roots; and all things that are hidden and manifest I have known.’ This knowledge of all natures, then, the seed of Seth received by ancestral tradition through the succession of generations; and as long as it remained separate from the sacrilegious stock, as it had received it holily, so it used it either for the worship of God or for the benefit of common life. But when it was mixed with the impious generation, it turned what it had piously learned to profane and harmful things, at the prompting of demons too, and boldly established from it the curious arts of sorcery, tricks, and magical superstitions, teaching its descendants to abandon that holy worship of the divine Godhead and to venerate and worship these elements, or fire, or the demons of the air. How this knowledge of curious things did not perish in the flood and became known in the ages that followed, although the answer to the question put forward does not require it, yet since the occasion of this explanation has reminded us, I think it should be touched on briefly. As far as ancient traditions tell, Ham the son of Noah, who had been instructed in these superstitions and sacrilegious and profane arts, knowing that he could not bring any book of memorial about them into the ark, into which he was to enter together with his righteous father and holy brothers, engraved the wicked arts and profane inventions on plates of various metals, which could not be spoiled by the flood of waters, and on very hard stones. When the flood was over, searching for them with the same curiosity with which he had hidden them, he passed on the seedbed of sacrileges and perpetual wickedness to his posterity. In this way that popular opinion, by which people believe that angels handed on sorceries and various arts to men, was fulfilled in truth. Of those sons of Seth and daughters of Cain, then, as we said, more wicked sons were born, who were very mighty hunters, most violent and fierce men, who were called giants because of the enormity of their bodies or of their cruelty and malice. For they first began to plunder their neighbors and practise robbery among men, preferring to get their living by plunder rather than being content with the sweat and labor of work; and their crimes grew so great that the world could not be purified otherwise than by the flood. So, since the sons of Seth, driven by lust, had transgressed that command which had been kept by natural instinct for a very long time from the beginning of this world, it was necessary afterwards for it to be restored by the letter of the law: ‘You shall not give your daughter to his son as wife, nor take any of their daughters for your son; for they will seduce your hearts to depart from your God and follow their gods and serve them.’”

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Eccl 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Eccl 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 4:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 5:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 4:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 6:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 82:6 (81:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 82:7 (81:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:19 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 6:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 7:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 7:4 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Spirits cannot have intercourse with women; the “sons of God” of Gen 6 were the righteous descendants of Seth, who married the daughters of Cain's line and were corrupted, turning Adam's natural wisdom to magic, which Ham preserved through the flood; their offspring were the violent giants.

  • Eccl 1:9–10; Gen 4:25; Gen 5:3–29 and 4:17–21 (Cassian's lists differ from the biblical text: his Cainite line borrows Cainan and Mahalalel from the Sethite line, and he ends with Jabal and Jubal); Gen 6:2 (LXX manuscripts read “angels of God”, others “sons of God”); Ps 82:6–7 (81:6–7 LXX); Wis 7:17–21; Gen 6:4; Deut 7:3–4. The tradition that Ham preserved the forbidden arts on metal plates and stones is unidentified; a similar story is told of Seth's descendants in Josephus, Ant. 1.70–71. Cassian's Sethite reading of Gen 6 is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (l for I); OCR slips; line-break hyphen and OCR slips; stray full stop; stray full stop and OCR slip; stray letter; stray mark; word split; words joined): carnaliter posse.- quodsi → carnaliter posse. quodsi; Iaret, laret genuit Enoc → Iaret, Iaret genuit Enoc; Lamee genuit Noe → Lamec genuit Noe; genuit lobel et Iubal → genuit Iobel et Iubal; nequaquam scilicet sacrilegiis. ao malitia → nequaquam scilicet sacrilegiis ac malitia; siue ut diuersa exemplaria continent. filii dei → siue ut diuersa exemplaria continent filii dei; filii hominum i nuncupantur → filii hominum nuncupantur; euidenter ad tingere → euidenter adtingere; diuina illa insuffiatione → diuina illa insufflatione; uim spiritnum → uim spirituum; eam uero impiae → cum uero impiae; in aream prorsus inferre → in arcam prorsus inferre; sanctis frairi- (bus ingressorus → sanctis fratribus ingressurus; conrampi → conrumpi; procreati sunt,, qui → procreati sunt, qui; uioleatissimi ac traculentissimi → uiolentissimi ac truculentissimi; pro inormitate → pro enormitate; finitimos popnlari → finitimos populari; a deo uestro etsequamini → a deo uestro et sequamini.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:17 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Josephus, Ant. 1.70 (Josephus (works); echo)

Topics: Marriage

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.21 (CSEL 13:236–241; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).

8.22CSEL 13:241

GERMANVS: Merito potuisset illis ex hac praesumptione coniugii crimen transgressionis adscribi, si data fuisset eis ista praeceptio. at cum seiunctionis istius obseruantia necdum aliqua fuisset constitutione praefixa, quemadmodum illis permixtio generis ad noxam debuit inputari, quae nullo fuerat interdicta mandato? lex enim non praeterita solet crimina, sed futura damnare.

Germanus: “The crime of transgression could rightly have been ascribed to them for presuming this marriage if this command had been given to them. But since the observance of this separation had not yet been fixed by any ordinance, how could the mixing of the race be imputed to them as a fault, when it had been forbidden by no command? For the law usually condemns not past crimes but future ones.”

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Summary: Germanus objects that the Sethites cannot be blamed for intermarriage before any law forbade it.

Topics: Marriage

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.22 (CSEL 13:241; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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8.23CSEL 13:241–243

SERENVS: Deus hominem creans omnem naturaliter ei scientiam legis inseruit. quae si fuisset ab homine secundum propositum domini ut coeperat custodita, non utique necessarium fuisset aliam dari quam litteris postea promulgauit: erat enim superfluum extrinsecus offerri remedium quod adhuc uigebat insertum. sed quia haec ut diximus penitus corrupta iam fuerat libertate usuque peccandi, uelut huius exsecutor ac uindex et ut ipsis scripturae uerbis eloquar adiutrix adposita est Moysaicae legis seuera districtio, ut uel metu poenae praesentis non penitus bonum scientiae naturalis extinguerent, secundum prophetae sententiam dicentis: legem dedit in adiutorium. quae etiam secundum apostolum paedagogus uelut paruulis data fuisse describitur, erudiens scilicet eos atque custodiens, ne ab illa disciplina in qua naturaliter fuerant instituti quadam obliuione discederent. nam quia sit homini omnis scientia legis ab initio creationis infusa, hinc manifeste probatur, quod mandata legis absque litterae lectione ante legem, immo ante diluuium omnes sanctos obseruasse cognoscimus. quemadmodum enim scire potuit Abel necdum lege mandante, quod de primitiuis ouium suarum et de adipe ipsarum sacrificium deo deberet offerre, nisi per insitam sibi legem naturaliter fuisset edoctus? quemadmodum Noe quod mundum uel quod inmundum esset animal discreuisset nondum haec legali distinguente mandato, nisi scientia naturali fuisset instructus? unde Enoc didicit ambulare cum deo, nullam legis inluminationem ab aliquo consecutus? ubi Sem et Iapheth legerant: turpitudinem patris tui non reuelabis, ut incedentes retrorsum patris uerecunda uelarent? unde monitus Abraham spoliis hostium quae sibi offerebantur, ne retributionem laboris sui consequeretur, abstinuit, uel decimas sacerdoti Melchisedec, quae Moysaica lege praecipiuntur, exsoluit? unde idem ipse Abraham, unde Loth transeuntibus ac peregrinis humanitatis iura et ablutionem pedum necdum euangelico coruscante mandato suppliciter obtulerunt? unde Iob tantam deuotionem fidei, tantam castimoniae puritatem, tantam humilitatis, mansuetudinis, misericordiae, humanitatis scientiam consecutus est, quantam nunc ne ab illis quidem qui euangelia memoriter tenent uidemus inpleri? quem sanctorum legimus ante legem ullum legis non obseruasse mandatum? quis illorum non custodiuit: audi Israhel, dominus deus tuus dominus unus est? quis non inpleuit illorum: non facies tibi sculptile neque ullam similitudinem eorum quae in caelo sunt siue quae in terra uel eorum quae sunt in aquis sub terra? quis eorum non obseruauit: honora patrem tuum et matrem uel illa quae in Decalogo subsequuntur: non occides, non adulterabis, non facies furtum, non falsum testimonium dices, non concupisces uxorem proximi tui aliaque his multo maiora, quibus non solum legis, sed etiam euangelii praeuenere mandata?

Serenus: “God, in creating man, implanted in him naturally all knowledge of the law. If man had kept it as he had begun, according to the Lord's purpose, it would certainly not have been necessary for another to be given, which he afterwards published in writing; for it was superfluous to offer from outside a remedy that was still in force within. But because, as we said, this had already been wholly corrupted by the freedom and habit of sinning, the severe strictness of the Mosaic law was set beside it as its executor and avenger, and, to speak in the very words of Scripture, as its helper, so that, at least through fear of present punishment, they might not wholly extinguish the good of natural knowledge, according to the saying of the prophet: ‘He gave the law as a help.’ It is also described by the apostle as having been given like a tutor to little children, teaching and guarding them lest through some forgetfulness they depart from that discipline in which they had been naturally trained. For that all knowledge of the law was implanted in man from the beginning of creation is plainly proved by this: we know that all the saints kept the commands of the law without reading the letter, before the law, indeed before the flood. For how could Abel know, before the law commanded it, that he ought to offer God a sacrifice of the firstlings of his sheep and of their fat, unless he had been taught naturally by the law implanted in him? How would Noah have distinguished which animal was clean and which unclean, before any command of the law distinguished them, unless he had been instructed by natural knowledge? Where did Enoch learn to walk with God, having received no illumination of the law from anyone? Where had Shem and Japheth read, ‘You shall not uncover your father's nakedness,’ so that, walking backwards, they covered their father's shame? Where was Abraham warned to abstain from the enemies' spoils offered to him, so as not to receive a reward for his labor, or to pay the tithes to the priest Melchizedek which are commanded by the Mosaic law? Where did Abraham himself, and Lot, humbly offer the rights of hospitality and the washing of feet to passers-by and strangers, before the command of the Gospel shone forth? Where did Job attain such devotion of faith, such purity of chastity, such knowledge of humility, gentleness, mercy, and kindness, as we do not see fulfilled now even by those who know the Gospels by heart? Which of the saints do we read failed to keep any command of the law before the law? Which of them did not keep, ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord your God is one Lord’? Which of them did not fulfil, ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image, nor any likeness of what is in heaven or on earth or in the waters under the earth’? Which of them did not observe, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ or what follows in the Decalogue: ‘You shall not kill, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not bear false witness, you shall not covet your neighbor's wife,’ and other things far greater than these, by which they anticipated the commands not only of the law but also of the Gospel?”

Isa 8:20 (quotation, medium confidence) · Gal 3:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 4:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 7:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 5:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Lev 18:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 9:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 14:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 14:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 18:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 19:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 6:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:17 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: God implanted the knowledge of the law in human nature from creation; the written law was given later as a help when it had been corrupted, and the patriarchs kept its commands before it was written.

  • Isa 8:20 (LXX form, “he gave the law as a help”); Gal 3:24; Gen 4:4; Gen 7:2; Gen 5:22; Lev 18:7 with Gen 9:23; Gen 14:22–23, 20; Gen 18:4; Gen 19:2; Deut 6:4; Exod 20:4, 12–17. Deut 5:21 is quoted for “your neighbor's wife”.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; word split): omnem naturaliter a scientiam → omnem naturaliter ei scientiam; ab initio creationis nfosa → ab initio creationis infusa; tantam de uotionem → tantam deuotionem; sculptile seque ullam → sculptile neque ullam; in caelo sunt sine quae → in caelo sunt siue quae; non obseruanit → non obseruauit.

Topics: Ethics, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.23 (CSEL 13:241–243; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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8.24CSEL 13:243–244

Ita ergo intellegimus ab initio deum omnia creasse perfecta nec fuisse quod ordinationi eius principali uelut inprouidae et inperfectae necesse esset adiungi, si in illo statu ac dispositione qua ab ipso creata sunt uniuersa mansissent, et idcirco in eos qui ante legem, immo ante diluuium peccauerunt, iusto iudicio animaduertisse deum probamus, quia transgressi naturalem legem sine ulla meruerunt excusatione puniri, nec in illorum incidemus blasphemam calumniam, qui ignorantes hanc rationem derogant deo ueteris testamenti ac detrahentes nostrae fidei subsannantesque respondent: quid ergo placuit deo uestro, ut post tot annorum milia legem uoluerit promulgare, tanta saecula passus sine lege transire? quodsi postea melius aliquid adinuenit, apparet eum in primordio mundi inferiora uel deteriora sapuisse et post haec uelut experimentis edoctum coepisse rectiora prospicere ac principales ordinationes suas in melius emendare. quod inmensae praescientiae dei penitus conuenire non poterit nec sine ingenti blasphemia haec de ipso ab haeretica insania proferentur, dicente Ecclesiaste: cognoui quoniam omnia quae fecit deus ab initio ipsa erunt in aeternum: super illa non est quod addatur, et ab illis non est quod auferatur. et idcirco iustis lex non est posita, iniustis autem et non subditis, inpiis et peccatoribus, sceleratis et contaminatis. illi namque habentes naturalis atque insitae legis sanam atque integram disciplinam nequaquam lege hac extrinsecus adhibita litterisque descripta quaeque in adiutorium illi naturali data est indigebant. ex quibus apertissima ratione colligitur nec legem istam perscriptam litteris dari ab initio debuisse (erat enim hoc superfluum fieri stante adhuc naturali lege nec ad integrum uiolata) nec euangelicam perfectionem tradi ante legis potuisse custodiam. non enim poterant audire: qui te percusserit in dextera maxilla tua, praebe illi et alteram, qui contenti non erant talionis aequalitate iniurias proprias uindicare, sed letales calces ac telorum uulnera pro alapa leuissima rependebant et pro uno dente percutientium animas expetebant. sed nec dici illis poterat: diligite inimicos uestros, in quibus magnus fructus et utilitas ducebatur, ut amicos suos diligerent, declinarent uero ab inimicis et solo ab eis odio dissiderent nec obprimere illos et interficere festinarent.

“So we understand that from the beginning God created all things perfect, and that there was nothing which needed to be added to his original ordering, as though it were improvident and imperfect, if all things had remained in the state and arrangement in which they were created by him. And therefore we prove that God punished with just judgment those who sinned before the law, indeed before the flood, because, having transgressed the natural law, they deserved to be punished without any excuse. Nor shall we fall into the blasphemous slander of those who, not knowing this reason, disparage the God of the Old Testament, and, detracting from our faith and mocking it, say: ‘What pleased your God, then, that after so many thousands of years he chose to publish the law, having let so many ages pass without law? If afterwards he found something better, it appears that at the beginning of the world he knew lower or worse things, and afterwards, as if taught by experience, began to foresee better things and to amend his original ordinances for the better.’ This could by no means fit the immense foreknowledge of God, nor can these things be said of him without enormous blasphemy by heretical madness, since Ecclesiastes says: ‘I have known that all the things which God has made from the beginning will be for ever; nothing can be added to them, and nothing can be taken from them.’ And therefore ‘the law is not laid down for the righteous, but for the unrighteous and insubordinate, for the impious and sinners, for the wicked and defiled.’ For those, having the sound and whole discipline of the natural and implanted law, had no need of this law applied from outside and written in letters, which was given as a help to that natural one. From these it is gathered by the plainest reasoning that neither should this law written in letters have been given from the beginning (for it was superfluous to do this while the natural law still stood and had not been wholly violated), nor could evangelical perfection have been handed on before the keeping of the law. For those could not hear, ‘Whoever strikes you on your right cheek, offer him the other also,’ who were not content to avenge their own injuries with the equality of retaliation, but repaid the lightest slap with deadly kicks and wounds of weapons, and for one tooth sought the lives of those who struck them. Nor could it be said to them, ‘Love your enemies,’ among whom it was thought a great fruit and benefit if they loved their friends and turned away from their enemies, differing from them only by hatred, and did not hasten to crush and kill them.”

Eccl 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 21:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:44 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: God's original creation was perfect and the natural law sufficed; the written law came when it was corrupted, and the Gospel's higher demands could only follow the law, which answers heretics who accuse the God of the Old Testament of changing his mind.

  • Eccl 3:14; 1 Tim 1:9; Matt 5:39; Exod 21:24; Matt 5:44. The heretics who “disparage the God of the Old Testament” are probably Marcionites or Manichaeans; unnamed in the text.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): insto iudicio → iusto iudicio; quae fecit dens ab initio → quae fecit deus ab initio.

Topics: Heresy, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.24 (CSEL 13:243–244; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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8.25CSEL 13:244–248

Illud uero quod uos de diabolo mouerat: quia mendax est et pater eius, quod uidelicet tam ipse quam pater suus mendax pronuntiari uideatur a domino, satis absurdum est hoc uel leuiter opinari. ut enim paulo ante diximus spiritus spiritum non generat, sicut ne animam quidem potest anima procreare, licet concretionem carnis non dubitemus humano semine coalescere, ita de utraque substantia, id est carnis et animae, quae cui adscribatur auctori, apostolo manifestius distinguente: deinde patres, inquit, carnis nostrae habuimus eruditores et reuerebamur: non multo magis subiciemur patri spirituum et uiuemus? quid hac diuisione clarius potuit definire, ut carnis quidem nostrae patres homines pronuntiaret, animarum uero deum solum esse patrem constanter exprimeret? quamquam et in ipsa corporis huius concretione ministerium tantummodo ab hominibus adscribendum, summa uero conditionis deo omnium creatori, dicente Dauid: manus tuae fecerunt me, et plasmauerunt me. et beatus Iob: nonne sicut lac, inquit, mulsisti me, coagulasti me ut caseum? ossibus et neruis inseruisti me. et dominus ad Hieremiam: priusquam te in utero formarem, noui te. Ecclesiastes uero utriusque substantiae naturam atque originem examinatione ortus atque initii, ex quo uidelicet unaquaeque processit, et consideratione finis ad quem unaquaeque contendit satis euidenter ac proprie colligens pariterque de huius corporis atque animae separatione disceptans ita disseruit: priusquam conuertatur puluis in terram sicut fuit, et spiritus reuertatur ad deum, qui dedit eam. quid apertius dici potuit quam ut materiam carnis, quam puluerem nominauit, quia de hominis semine sumit exordium eiusque uidetur ministerio seminari, uelut e terra sumptam iterum reuerti pronuntiaret ad terram, spiritum uero, qui non per conmixtionem sexus utriusque generatur, sed peculiariter a deo solo tribuitur, ad auctorem suum redire signaret? quod etiam per illam dei insufflationem, qua Adam primitus animauit, euidenter exprimitur. itaque his testimoniis manifeste colligimus patrem spirituum dici neminem posse nisi deum solum, qui eos ex nihilo cum uoluerit facit, homines uero carnis nostrae patres tantummodo nominari. igitur et diabolus secundum hoc quod uel spiritus uel angelus uel bonus creatus est patrem neminem habuit nisi deum conditorem suum. qui cum superbia fuisset elatus et dixisset in corde suo: ascendam super altitudinem nubium, ero similis altissimo, factus est mendax et in ueritate non stetit, sed de proprio nequitiae thesauro mendacium proferens non solum mendax, sed etiam pater ipsius mendacii factus est, quo deitatem homini repromittens ac dicens: eritis sicut dii, in ueritate non stetit, sed ab initio factus est homicida, uel Adam in condicionem mortalitatis inducens uel Abel instigatione sua per manum fratris interimens. Sed iam disputationem nostram duarum ferme noctium lucubratione confectam subsequens aurora concludit ac de profundissimo quaestionum pelago cumbam conlationis huiusce ad tutissimum silentii portum conpendium nostrae rusticitatis adtraxit. in quo quidem profundo quanto nos interius diuini spiritus introduxerit flatus, tanto diffusior praecedens oculorum aciem semper aperietur inmensitas ac secundum sententiam Salomonis longius fiet a nobis magis quam erat, et alta profunditas, quis inueniet eam? quamobrem dominum deprecemur, ut in nobis uel timor eius uel caritas quae nescit cadere inmobilis perseueret, quae nos et sapientes in omnibus faciet et a diaboli telis proteget semper inlaesos. his etenim custodibus inpossibile est quempiam laqueos mortis incurrere. inter perfectos autem et inperfectos ista distantia est, quod in illis quidem fixa et ut ita dixerim maturior caritas tenacius perseuerans firmius eos ac facilius facit in sanctitate durare, in his uero uelut infirmius conlocata ac facilius refrigescens cito ac saepius eos peccatorum conpellit laqueis inplicari. quibus auditis ita nos conlationis huius sermo flammauit, ut maiore mentis ardore abeuntes a cella senis quam ante uenientes doctrinae eius plenitudinem sitiremus.

“As for what troubled you about the devil, ‘for he is a liar, and his father’ — as if the Lord seemed to declare both him and his father liars — it is quite absurd to think this even slightly. For, as we said a little before, spirit does not beget spirit, just as soul cannot procreate soul, though we do not doubt that the formation of the flesh grows from human seed. The apostle distinguishes more plainly which author each substance, that is, flesh and soul, is to be ascribed to: ‘Furthermore,’ he says, ‘we had fathers of our flesh who corrected us, and we revered them; shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live?’ What could define it more clearly than this division, declaring men the fathers of our flesh, but firmly expressing that God alone is the Father of souls? Although even in the very formation of this body only the ministry is to be ascribed to men, but the sum of creation to God, the Creator of all, as David says: ‘Your hands have made me and fashioned me’; and the blessed Job: ‘Have you not milked me like milk, and curdled me like cheese? You have knit me together with bones and sinews’; and the Lord to Jeremiah: ‘Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.’ Ecclesiastes, gathering quite plainly and properly the nature and origin of each substance by examining the birth and beginning from which each came, and by considering the end to which each tends, and discussing likewise the separation of this body and soul, reasoned thus: ‘Before the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.’ What could be said more plainly than that he declares that the matter of the flesh, which he called dust, since it takes its beginning from human seed and seems to be sown by its ministry, returns to the earth as having been taken from the earth; but indicates that the spirit, which is not begotten by the union of both sexes but is given specially by God alone, returns to its author? This is also plainly expressed by that inbreathing of God with which he first gave life to Adam. So from these testimonies we plainly gather that no one can be called the father of spirits except God alone, who makes them from nothing when he wills, while men are called only the fathers of our flesh. Therefore the devil too, in that he was created a spirit, or an angel, or good, had no father except God his maker. But when he was lifted up by pride and said in his heart, ‘I will ascend above the height of the clouds, I will be like the Most High,’ he became a liar and did not stand in the truth; but, bringing forth a lie from his own treasury of wickedness, he became not only a liar but also the father of the lie itself, by which, promising divinity to man and saying, ‘You will be like gods,’ he did not stand in the truth, but was a murderer from the beginning, either by bringing Adam into the condition of mortality, or by killing Abel at his instigation through his brother's hand.” But now the following dawn brings to a close our discussion, carried on through the vigils of nearly two nights, and the brevity of our rusticity has drawn the little boat of this conference from the deepest sea of questions into the safest harbor of silence. The farther the breath of the divine Spirit leads us into that deep, the more widely the immensity ahead will always open before the sight of our eyes, and, according to Solomon's saying, it will become farther from us than it was, ‘and deep is the depth; who will find it?’ Therefore let us pray the Lord that either his fear, or the love that knows no falling, may remain immovable in us, which will make us wise in all things and always protect us unharmed from the devil's darts. For with these guardians it is impossible for anyone to fall into the snares of death. But this is the difference between the perfect and the imperfect: in the former, love, fixed and, so to speak, riper, persevering more tenaciously, makes them endure in holiness more firmly and easily; in the latter, placed as it were more weakly and growing cold more easily, it quickly and often compels them to be entangled in the snares of sins. When we had heard this, the discourse of this conference so inflamed us that, going away from the old man's cell, we thirsted for the fullness of his teaching with greater ardor of mind than when we came.

John 8:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 12:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 119:73 (118:73 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 10:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Eccl 12:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 14:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Eccl 7:24 (7:25 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:8 (echo, medium confidence)

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Summary: The devil's “father” is not another spirit, since God alone is the Father of spirits; the devil became a liar and the father of lies by his pride. Serenus closes with a prayer for the fear and love of God, and the visitors leave eager for more.

  • Heb 12:9; Ps 119:73 (118:73 LXX); Job 10:10–11; Jer 1:5; Eccl 12:7; Gen 2:7; Isa 14:14; John 8:44; Gen 3:5; Eccl 7:24 (7:25 LXX/Vulgate); 1 Cor 13:8. Serenus' view that each soul is created by God and not transmitted by the parents (creationism, against traducianism) is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): IIIud uero quod → Illud uero quod; ministerium tantummodo at hominibus → ministerium tantummodo ab hominibus; nonne sicut lic, inquit → nonne sicut lac, inquit; per illam dei insuffiationem → per illam dei insufflationem; in corde sao → in corde suo.

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 8.25 (CSEL 13:244–248; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-8-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 9

9.1CSEL 13:248

De perpetua orationis atque incessabili iugitate quod in secundo Institutionum libro promissum est, conlationes senis huius quem nunc in medium proferemus, id est abbatis Isaac domino fauente conplebunt. quibus explicatis et praeceptis beatissimae memoriae papae Castoris et desiderio uestro, o beatissime papa Leonti et sancte frater Helladi, satisfecisse me credo, uoluminis amplitudine primitus excusata, quae studentibus nobis non solum sermone succincto narranda praestringere, sed etiam plurima silentio praeterire in maiorem modum quam disposueramus extensa est. praemissa namque super diuersis institutis disputatione copiosa, quam nos studio breuitatis resecare maluimus, haec ad extremum beatus Isaac intulit uerba.

What was promised in the second book of the Institutes about the perpetual and unceasing continuance of prayer will, with the Lord’s favor, be fulfilled by the conferences of this elder whom we shall now bring forward, that is, Abba Isaac. When these have been set out, I believe I shall have satisfied both the instructions of Pope Castor of most blessed memory and your desire, most blessed Pope Leontius and holy brother Helladius. But I must first excuse the length of the volume: although we tried not only to compress what had to be told into brief narration but also to pass over a great deal in silence, it has grown longer than we had planned. For after a full discussion of various practices, which we have preferred to cut out for the sake of brevity, the blessed Isaac at the end spoke these words.

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Summary: Cassian introduces the two conferences of Abba Isaac on unceasing prayer, fulfilling a promise made in the Institutes, and dedicates them to Leontius and Helladius in memory of Castor.

  • Castor was bishop of Apt, at whose request Cassian wrote the Institutes and the first ten Conferences; Leontius (bishop, probably of Fréjus) and Helladius are the addressees of Conferences 1–10. “Pope” (papa) is here an honorific title for a bishop.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 9.1 (CSEL 13:248; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/8-13/#p-9-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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