On the Trinity 2.0–2.7
Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).
Chapter 2
2.0PL 42:845
Cum homines Deum quærunt, et ad intelligentiam Trinitatis pro captu infirmitatis hu manae animum intendunt; experti difficultates labo riosas, sive in ipsa acie mentis conantis intueri inac cessibilem lucem, sive in ipsa multiplici et multi moda locutione Litterarum sacrarum, ubi mihi non videtur nisi atteri animam 1, ut Christi gratia glorifi cala dulcescat 1: cnm ad aliquid cerinm discussa omni ambiguitate pervenerint, facillime debent ignoscere errantibus in tanti pervestigatione secreti. Sed duo sunt qu;c in crrore hominum difficillime tolerantur; præsumptio, priusquam veritas patcat; et, cum jam patuerit, præsumptæ defensio falsitatis. A quibus duobus vitiis nimis inimicis inventioni veritatis, et tractationi divinorum sanctorumque Librorum, si me, ut precor et spero, Deus defenderit atque munierit scuto bonae voluntatis suae et gratia misericordiae su.e, non cro segnis ad inquirendam substantiam Dei, sive per Scripturam ejus, sive per creaturam. Quae utraque nobis ad hoc proponitur intuenda, ut ipse quæratur, ipse ditigatur3, qui et illam inspiravit, et istam crcavit. Nec trepidus ero ad proferendam sententiam meam, in qua magis amabo inspici a rectis, quam timebo morderi a per versis. Gratanter enim suscipit oculum 4columbinum pulcherrima et modestissima charitas; dentem autem caninum vel evitat cautissima humilitas, vel retundit solidissima veritas: magisque optabo a quolibet re prehendi, quam sive ab errante, sive ab adulante lau dari. Nullus enim reprehensor formidandus est ama tori veritatis. Etenim aut inimicus reprehensurus est, aut amicus. Si ergo inimicus insultat, ferendus est: amicus autem si errat, docendus; si docet, audiendus. Laudator vero ct errans confirmat errorem, et adu lans illicit in errorem. Emendabit ergo me justus in misericordia, et arguet me; oleum autem peccatoris non impinguabit caput meum.
Prologue. When people seek God and, as far as the weakness of human nature allows, direct their minds to understanding the Trinity, they experience laborious difficulties, whether in the very effort of the mind's eye trying to look upon light unapproachable, or in the manifold and varied speech of the sacred writings, in which, it seems to me, the soul is simply worn down so that, glorified by the grace of Christ, it may grow sweet. When, all ambiguity having been shaken off, they have arrived at something certain, they ought most readily to pardon those who err in investigating so great a secret. But there are two things that are most hard to bear in human error: presumption before the truth is clear, and, once it has become clear, the defense of the falsehood presumed. If God, as I pray and hope, defends me from these two faults, which are most hostile to the discovery of truth and to the handling of the divine and holy books, and fortifies me with the shield of his good will and the grace of his mercy, I will not be slow to inquire into the substance of God, whether through his Scripture or through his creation. Both of these are set before us to be contemplated for this purpose, that he himself may be sought and he himself loved who both inspired the one and created the other. Nor shall I be afraid to put forward my opinion, in which I shall rather love to be examined by the upright than fear to be bitten by the perverse. For most beautiful and most modest love gladly receives the dove's eye; but the dog's tooth either most cautious humility avoids or most solid truth blunts. And I shall rather wish to be blamed by anyone at all than to be praised either by one who errs or by one who flatters. For no critic is to be feared by a lover of truth. For the one who will criticize is either an enemy or a friend. If an enemy insults, he must be borne; but a friend, if he errs, must be taught; if he teaches, he must be listened to. But one who praises, if he errs, confirms error, and if he flatters, entices into error. "Let the righteous man correct me in mercy and reprove me; but let not the oil of the sinner anoint my head."
1 Tim 6:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 5:12 (5:13 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Song 1:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 141:5 (140:5 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine opens Book 2 by warning against presumption and the defense of error, and declares that he will seek God through Scripture and creation, preferring correction to flattery.
- The digital text begins with Migne's summary of the book and the heading 'PROŒMIUM'; the summary is omitted by logged correction.
- Quotations and allusions: 1 Tim 6:16; Ps 5:12 (Ps 5:13 Vulgate); Song 1:15 (the dove's eye); Ps 141:5 (Ps 140:5 Vulgate).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's summary of the book and the heading 'Prooemium' with the paragraph number): Rursum defendit Augustinus aequalitatem Trinitatis, et de Filii missione ac Spiritus sancti agens, variisque Dei appari tionibus, demonstrat non ideo miuorem esse miitente quimissus est, quia ille misit, hic missus est: sed Trinitatem per omnia æqualem, pariter in sua natura immutabilem et invisibilem,et ubique præsentem, iu missione seu apparitione qualibet inseparabiliter operari. PROŒMIUM.— i. → .
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.0 (PL 42:845; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-0). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.1PL 42:845–847
Quamobrem, quanquam firmissime teneamus de Domino nostro Jesu Christo, et per Scripturas disseminatam, et a doctis catholicis carum dem Scripturarum tractatoribus demonstratam tan quam canonicam regulam, quomodo intelligatur Dei Filius et æqualis Patri secundum Dei formam in qua est, et minor Patre secundum servi formam quam accepit ( Philipp. II, 6, 7); in qua forma non solum Patre, sed etiam Spiritu sancto, ncque hoc tantum, sed etiam se ipso minor inventus est, non se ipso qui fuit, sed se ipso qui est; quia forma servi acce pta, formam Dei non amisit, sicut Scripturarum, quae in supcrioro libro commemoravimus, testimonia do cuerunt: sunt tamen quædam in divinis eloquiis ita posita, ut ambiguum sit ad quam potius regulam re ferantur; utrum ad eam qua intelligimus minorem Filium in assumpta creatnra, an ad cam qua intelligi mus, non quidem minorem esse Filium, sed aequalem Patri, tamen ab illo hunc esse Deum de Deo, lumen de lumine. Filium quippe dicimus Deum de Deo: Patrem autem, Denm tantum; non, de Dco. Unde manifestum est quod Filius habeat alium de quo sit, et cui Filius sit; Pater autem non Filium de quo sit babeat, sed tantum cui Pater sit. Omnis cnim filius de patre est quod est, et patri filius est: nullus autem pater de filio est quod est, sed filio pater est. Quandam itaque ita ponuntur in Scripturis de Patre et Filio, ut indicent unitatem æqualitatemque substantiæ, sicuti est, Ego et Pater unum sumus; et, Cum in forma Dei esset, non rapi nam arbitratus est esse æqualis Deo (Philipp. II, G); et quæcumque talia sunt. Quaedam vero ita, ut minorem ostendant Filium propter formam servi, id est, pro pter assumptam creaturam mutabilis humanæque substantiæ, sicuti est quod ait, Quoniam Pater major me eat; et, Pater non judicat quem quam, sed omne judicium dedit Filio. Nam paulo post consequenter ait, Et potestatem dedit ei et judicium fa cere, quoniam Filius hominis est. Quaedam porro ita, ut nec minor nec æqualis tunc ostendatur, sed tantum quod de Patre sit intimctur, ut est illud, Sicut habet Pater vitam in semetipso, sic dedit Filio vitam habere in semetipso; et illud, Neque enim potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Quod si propterea dictum acceperimus, quia in forma accepta ex creatura mi nor est Filius, consequens erit ut prior Pater super aquas ambulaverit, aut alicujus alterius caeci nati de sputo et luto oculus apcruerit, et cætera quæ Filius in carne apparens inter homines fecit, ut posset ea facere qui dixit non posse Filium a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem: quis autem vel delirus ita sen tiat? Hestat ergo ut hæc ideo dicta sint, quia incom mutabilis est vita Filii sicut Patris, et tamen de Pa tre est; et inseparabilis est operatio Patria et Filii, sed tamen ita operari Filio de illo est, de quo ipso est, id est de Patre; et ita videt Filius Patrem, ut quo eum videt hoc ipso sit Filius. Non enim aliud illi est esse de Patre, id est nasci de Patre, quam vi dere Patrem; aut aliud videre operantem, quam pari ter operari: sed ideo non a set quia non est a se. Et idco quæ viderit Patrem facientem, hax eadem facit et Filius simililer, quia de Patre est. Neque enim alia similiter, sicut pictor alias tabulas pingit, quemadmo dum alias ab alio pictas videt; nec eadem dissimiliter, sicut corpus easdem litteras exprimit, quas animus cogitavit: sed quaecumque, inquit, Pater facit, hac eadem et facit Filiu similiter. Et, hæc eadem dixit; et, similiter: ac per hoc inseparabilis et, par est operatio Patri et Filio, sed a Patre est Filio. Ideo non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi qnod viderit Patrem facientem. Ex hac ergo regula, qua ita loquuntur Scripturæ, ut non alium alio mino rem, sed tantum velint ostendere quis de quo sit, nonnulli eum sensum conceperunt, tanquam minor Filius dicerclur. Quidam autem nostri indoctiores, et in his minime eruditi, dum hæc secundum formam servi conantur accipere, et eos rectus intellectus non sequitur, perturbantur. Quod ne accidat, tenenda est hæc regula, qua non minor esi Filius, sed quod de Patre sit intimatur: quibus verbis non inaequalitas, sed nativitas ejus ostenditur.
Therefore, although we hold most firmly concerning our Lord Jesus Christ the rule, as it were canonical, which is spread through the Scriptures and has been demonstrated by learned catholic interpreters of those same Scriptures, of how the Son of God is understood to be both equal to the Father according to the form of God in which he is, and less than the Father according to the form of a servant which he took (in which form he is found less not only than the Father but also than the Holy Spirit, and not only so, but even than himself, not than himself as he was, but than himself as he is, because by taking the form of a servant he did not lose the form of God, as the testimonies of the Scriptures recalled in the previous book have taught), yet there are certain things in the divine words so placed that it is ambiguous to which rule they should rather be referred: whether to that by which we understand the Son as less in the creature he took, or to that by which we understand that the Son is not indeed less but equal to the Father, yet that he is from him, God from God, light from light. For we call the Son God from God, but the Father only God, not from God. Hence it is plain that the Son has another from whom he is and to whom he is Son, while the Father has not a Son from whom he is, but only one to whom he is Father. For every son is from his father what he is, and is son to his father; but no father is from his son what he is, but is father to his son. Some things, then, are so set down in the Scriptures about the Father and the Son as to indicate the unity and equality of substance, such as "I and the Father are one," and "Being in the form of God, he did not think it robbery to be equal to God," and whatever others are of this kind. But some are set down so as to show the Son as less on account of the form of a servant, that is, on account of the creature of changeable human substance that he took, such as his saying, "For the Father is greater than I," and "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son." For a little later he goes on to say, "And he has given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of Man." And again some are set down so that he is shown neither less nor equal, but it is only intimated that he is from the Father, as is this: "As the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself"; and this: "For the Son can do nothing of himself, except what he sees the Father doing." If we take this to be said because the Son is less in the form taken from the creature, it will follow that the Father first walked on the waters, or opened the eyes of some other man born blind with spittle and clay, and did the other things that the Son did when he appeared among men in the flesh, so that he could do them who said that the Son can do nothing of himself except what he sees the Father doing. But who, even if out of his mind, would think so? It remains, then, that these things are said because the life of the Son is unchangeable like that of the Father, and yet is from the Father; and the working of the Father and the Son is inseparable, yet the Son's so working is from him from whom he himself is, that is, from the Father; and the Son so sees the Father that by the very fact that he sees him he is the Son. For to him to be from the Father, that is, to be born of the Father, is nothing other than to see the Father; nor is seeing him working anything other than working equally with him. But he works not of himself, because he is not of himself. And therefore whatever things he sees the Father doing, the Son also does the same things likewise, because he is from the Father. For he does not do other things likewise, as a painter paints other pictures in the way he sees others painted by someone else; nor the same things in a different way, as the body forms the same letters that the mind has thought; but "whatever the Father does," he says, "the Son also does the same things likewise." He said both "the same things" and "likewise"; and therefore the working of the Father and the Son is inseparable and equal, but it is from the Father to the Son. That is why the Son can do nothing of himself except what he sees the Father doing. From this rule, then, by which the Scriptures so speak as to wish to show not that one is less than another but only who is from whom, some have conceived the idea that the Son was being called less. But certain of our own people, less learned and very little instructed in these matters, are troubled when they try to take these things according to the form of a servant and the right understanding does not follow. To prevent this, this rule must be held, by which it is intimated not that the Son is less but that he is from the Father; by which words not his inequality but his birth is shown.
Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 14:25 (allusion, high confidence) · John 9:6 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine adds a third rule for reading Scripture about the Son: some texts show neither inequality nor equality but only that the Son is from the Father, so that they express his birth, not his inferiority.
- Quotations: Phil 2:6–7; John 10:30; John 14:28; John 5:22, 27, 26, 19; allusions to Matt 14:25 and John 9:6.
- 'God from God, light from light': the wording of the Nicene Creed.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.1 (PL 42:845–847; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.2PL 42:847
Sunt ergo quædam in sanctis Libris, ut dicere cœperam, ita posita, at ambiguum sit quonam referenda sint: utrum ad illud quod pro pter assumptam crcaturam minor est Filius; an ad illud, quod quamvis aequalis, tamen quia de Patre sit indicatur. Et mibi quidem ridetur, si eo modo am biguum est, ut explicari discernique non possit, ex utralibet regula sine periculo posse intelligi, sicut est quod ait, Mea doctrina non est mea, sed ejus qui me misit. Nam et ex forma servi potest ac cipi, sicut jam in libro superiore tractavimus (Supra, lib. i, cap. 12); et ex forma Dei, in qua sic æqualis est Patri, ut tamen de Patre sit. In Dei quippe forma, sicut non est aliud Filius, aliud vita ejus, sed ipsa vita Filius est; ita non est aliud Filius, aliud doctrina. ejus, sed ipsa doctrina Filius est. Ac per hoc sicut id quod dictum est, dedit Filio vitam, non aliud iutelli gitur quam, Genuit Filium qui est vita; sic etiam cum dicitur, Dedit Filio doctrinam, bene intelligitur, Ge nuit Filium qui est doctrina: ut quod dictum est, Mea doctrina non eat mea, sed ejus qui me misit, sic in telligatur ac si dictum sit, Ego non sum a me ipso, sed ab illo qui me misit.
There are, then, as I had begun to say, certain things in the holy books so placed that it is ambiguous to which they should be referred: whether to the fact that the Son is less on account of the creature he took, or to the fact that, though equal, it is indicated that he is from the Father. And it seems to me that if it is ambiguous in such a way that it cannot be unravelled and decided, it can be understood without danger according to either rule; such as his saying, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me." For it can be taken according to the form of a servant, as we have already treated it in the previous book, and according to the form of God, in which he is so equal to the Father that he is nonetheless from the Father. For in the form of God, just as the Son is not one thing and his life another, but the Son is life itself, so the Son is not one thing and his teaching another, but the Son is teaching itself. And therefore, just as what is said, "he has granted the Son life," is understood as nothing other than "he begot the Son, who is life," so also when it is said, "he has given the Son teaching," it is rightly understood as "he begot the Son, who is teaching"; so that what is said, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me," may be understood as if it were said, "I am not from myself, but from him who sent me."
John 7:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:26 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine says that ambiguous texts such as 'My teaching is not mine' can safely be read either of the servant form or of the Son's being from the Father, since the Son himself is the teaching.
- Quotations: John 7:16; John 5:26. The cross-reference to Book 1, chapter 12 is the edition's.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.2 (PL 42:847; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.3PL 42:847
Nam et de Spiritu sancto, de qno non dictuin est, Semetipsum exinanivit, formam servi accipiens; ait tamen ipse Dominus: Cum autem venerit ille Spiritus veritatis, docebit vos omnem veritatem. Non enim loquetur a semetipso, sed quæcum que audiet loquetur, et qua ventura sunt annuntiabit vo bis. Ille me clarificabit; quia de meo accipiet, et an nuntiabit vobis. Post hæc verba, nisi continuo secutus dixisset, Omnia quæcumque habet Pater, mea sunt: propterea dixi, Quia de meo accipiet. et annuntiabit vo bis; crederetur fortasse ita natus deChristo Spiritus sanctus, quemadmodum ille de Patre. De se quippe dixerat, Mea doctrina non est mea, sed ejus qui me misit: de Spiritu autem sancto, Non enim loquetur a semctipso, sed quæcumque audiet loquelur; et, Quia de meo accipiet, et annuntiabit vobis. Sed quia reddidit causam cur dixerit, de meo acci piet; ait enim, Omnia quæcumque habet Pater, mea sunt; propterea dixi, Quia de meo accipiet: restat ut intelligatur etiam Spiritus sanctus de Patris 1 ha bere, sicut et Filius. Quomodo, nisi secundum id. quod supra diximus: Cum autem venerit Paracletus quem ego mittam vobis a Patre, Spiritum veritatis qui a Patre procedit, ille testimonium. perhibebit de me? Procedendo itaque a Patre, dicitur non loqui a semetipso: et sicut non ex eo fit ut minor sit Filius quia dixit, Non potest Filius a se facere quid quam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem non enim boc ex forma servi dixit, sed ex forma Dci, sicut jam osten dimus: hxc autem verba non indicant quod minor sit, sed quod de Patre sil); ita non hinc efficitur ut minor sit Spiritus sanctus, quia dictum est de illo, Non enim loquetur a semetipso, sed quæcumque audiet, loquetur: secundum hoc enim dictum est quod de Patre proce dit. Cunt vero et Filius de Patre sit, et Spiritus san ctus a Patre procedat, cur non ambo Filii dicantur, nec ambo geniti, sed ille unus Filius unigenitus, hic autcm Spiritus sanctus nee filius nec genitus, quia si genitus utique Filius, alio loco, si Deus donaverit, et quantum donaverit, disseremus fra, lib. iS, cap. 25).
For of the Holy Spirit too, of whom it is not said, "He emptied himself, taking the form of a servant," the Lord himself nonetheless says: "But when that Spirit of truth comes, he will teach you all truth. For he will not speak of himself, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will announce to you the things that are to come. He will glorify me, because he will receive of mine and announce it to you." After these words, had he not immediately gone on to say, "All things that the Father has are mine; that is why I said, 'He will receive of mine and announce it to you,'" it might perhaps have been believed that the Holy Spirit was born of Christ as Christ was of the Father. For of himself he had said, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me"; and of the Holy Spirit, "For he will not speak of himself, but whatever he hears he will speak," and "because he will receive of mine and announce it to you." But since he gave the reason why he said, "he will receive of mine" (for he says, "All things that the Father has are mine; that is why I said, 'He will receive of mine'"), it remains that the Holy Spirit too is understood to have from the Father, as the Son does. How, except according to what we said above: "But when the Paraclete comes, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me"? It is by proceeding from the Father, then, that he is said not to speak of himself. And just as it does not follow that the Son is less because he said, "The Son can do nothing of himself, except what he sees the Father doing" (for he did not say this according to the form of a servant but according to the form of God, as we have already shown, and these words indicate not that he is less but that he is from the Father), so it does not follow from this that the Holy Spirit is less, because it is said of him, "For he will not speak of himself, but whatever he hears he will speak"; for this is said according to the fact that he proceeds from the Father. But since both the Son is from the Father and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father, why both are not called sons, nor both begotten, but the one is the only-begotten Son and the other the Holy Spirit, neither son nor begotten (since if begotten, then certainly a son), we shall discuss in another place, if God grants it and as far as he grants it.
Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine shows that the Spirit's not speaking 'of himself' refers to his procession from the Father, not to inferiority, and postpones the question why the Spirit is not called a son.
- Quotations: Phil 2:7; John 16:13–15; John 7:16; John 15:26; John 5:19.
- The edition's cross-reference points to Book 15, chapter 25.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.3 (PL 42:847; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.4PL 42:847
Verumtamen hic evigilent, si pos sunt, qui hoc etiam sibi suffragari putaverunt, quasi ad demonstrandum Patrem Filio majorem, quia dixit Filius, Pater, clarifica me. Ecce et Spiritus sanemus clarificat eum: numquidnam ct ipse major est illo? Porro autem si propterea Spiritus sanctus ciarifieat Filium quia de Filii accipiet, et ideo de ejus accipiet quia omnia quæ habet Pater ipsius sunt; manifestum est quia cum Spiritus sanctus glorificat Filium, Patcr glorificat Filium. Unde cognoscitur quod omnia quæ habet Pater non tantum Filii, sed etiain Spiritus sancti sunt, quia potens est Spiritus sanctus glorificare Fi lium, quem glorificat Pater. Quod si ille qai glorificat, eo quem glorificat major est; sinant ut aequales sint qui se invicem glorificant. Scriptum est autem quod et Filius glorificet Patrem: Ego te, inquit, glorificavi super terram. Sane caveant ne pute tur Spiritus sanctus major ambobus, quia glorificat Filium quem glorificat Pater, ipsum autem nec a Patre nec a Filio scriptum est glorificari.
Here, however, let those wake up, if they can, who have thought that this too supports them, as if it showed that the Father is greater than the Son, because the Son said, "Father, glorify me." See, the Holy Spirit also glorifies him: is he too, then, greater than he? Moreover, if the Holy Spirit glorifies the Son because he will receive of the Son's, and he will receive of his because all things that the Father has are his, it is plain that when the Holy Spirit glorifies the Son, the Father glorifies the Son. From this it is known that all things that the Father has belong not only to the Son but also to the Holy Spirit, since the Holy Spirit is able to glorify the Son, whom the Father glorifies. But if he who glorifies is greater than him whom he glorifies, let them allow that those who glorify one another are equal. And it is written that the Son also glorifies the Father: "I have glorified you on earth," he says. Let them indeed beware lest the Holy Spirit be thought greater than both, because he glorifies the Son whom the Father glorifies, while it is not written that he himself is glorified either by the Father or by the Son.
John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:15 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:4 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine answers the argument that the Father is greater because he glorifies the Son: the Spirit also glorifies the Son, and the Son glorifies the Father, so mutual glorifying implies equality.
- Quotations: John 17:5; John 16:14–15; John 17:4.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.4 (PL 42:847; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).
2.5PL 42:847–851
Sed in bis convicti. ad illud se convertunt ut dicant, Major est qui mittit, quam qui mittitur: proinde major est Pater Filio, quia Filius a Patre se missum assidue com memorat; major est et Spiritu sancto, quia de illo dixit Jesus, Quem mittet Pater in nomine meo. Et Spiritas sanctus utroque minor est: quia et Pater eum mittit, sicut commemoravimus; et Filios, cum dicit, Si autem abiero, mittam eum ad vos. Qua in quæstione primum quæro, unde et quo! mis sus sit Filius. Ego, inquit, a Patre exii, et veni in hunc mundum. Ergo a Patre exire, et venire in hunc mundum, hoc est mitti. Quid igitur est quod de illo idem ipse evangelista dicit, In hoe mundo erat, et mundus per eum factu. est, et mundus cum non cognovit? deinde conjungit, in sua propria venit. illuc utique missus est, quo venit: at si in hunc mundum missus est, quia exiit a Patre, et venit in hunc mundum, et in hoc mundo erat; illuc ergo missas cst ubi erat. Nam et illud quod scriplum est in propheta Deum dicere, Cælum et ter ran. ego impleo; si de Filio dictum est (ipsum enim nonnulli volunt intelligi vel Prophe tis vel in Prophetis locutum), quo missus est, nisi illuc ubi erat? Ubique enim erat qui ait, Coelum et terram ego impleo. Si autem de Patre dictum est, ubi esse potuit sine Verbo suo et sinc Sapientia sun, quas pertendit a fine usque ad finem fortiter, et disponit om - nia suaviter? Sed neque sine Spiritu suo2usquam esse potuit. Itaque si ubique est Dcus, ubique est etiam Spiritus cjus. Illuc ergo et Spiritus sanctus missus cst ubi erat. Nam et ille qui non inve nit locum quo iret' a facie Dei et dicit, Si ascendero in callum, tu ibi es; si descendero in infernum, ades; ubique volens intelligi praesentem Deum, prius nomi navit Spiritum ejus. Nam sic ait: Quo abibo ab Spi ritu tuo? et quo a facie tua fugiam? Quocirca si et Filius et Spiritus sanctus illuc mittitur ubi crat, quærendum est quomodo intelligatur ista missio,.sive Filii, sive Spiritus sancti. Pater enim solus nusquam legitur missus. Et de Filio quidem ita scribit Apostolus: Cum autem venit plenitudo temporis, misit Deus Filium suum, factum ex muliere, factum sub Lege, ut eos qui sub Lege erant redimeret. Misit, inquit, Filium suum factum ex muliere. Quo no mine quis catholicus nesciat, non cum privationem virgi nitatis, sed differentiam sexus hebræo loquendi more significare voluisse? Cum itaque ait, Misit Deus Filium suum factum ex muliere, satis ostendit eo ipso missum Filium quo factus est ex muliere. Quod ergo de Deo natus est, in hoc mundo erat: quod autem de Maria nalus est, in hunc mundum missus advenit. Proinde mitti a Patre sine Spiritu sancto non potuit: non so lum quia intelligitur Pater cum eum misit, id est, fccit cx femina, non utique sine Spiritu suo fecisse; verum etiam quod manifestissime atque apertissime in Evangelio dicitur virgini Mariae quærenti ab ange lo, Quomodo fiet istud? Spiritus sanctus superveniet in te, et virtus Altissimi obumbrabit tibi: et Matthæus dicit, Inventa eat in utero habens de Spi ritu sancto. Quanquam ot apud Isaiam prophetam ipse Christus intelligitur do adventu suo futuro dicere, Et nunc Dominus misit me, et Spiritus ejus. Fortasse aliquis cogat utdicamus etiam a se ipSo missum esse Filium; quia ille Mariæ conceptus ct partus operatio Trinitatis est, qua crcante omnia creantur. Et quomodo jam, inquit, Pater eum misit, si ipse se misit? Cui primum respondeo, quærens ut dicat, si potest, quomodo Pater cum sanctificavit, si se ipse sanctificavit?Utrumque enim idem Dominus alt: Quem Pater, inquit, sanctificavit, et misit in AMM mundum, vos dicitis, Quia blasphemas; quomam dixi, Filius Dei sum (loan. x, 36). Alio autem loco ait: Et pro eis sanctifico me ipsum (Id. xvu, 19). Item quæro quomodo eum Pater tradidit, si se ipse tradidit? Utrumque enim dicit apostolus Paulus: Qui Filio, inquit, proprio non pepercit, sed pro nobis omnibus tra didit illum. Alibi autem de ipso Salva tore ait: Qui me dilexit, et tradidit se ipsum pro me. Crodo respondebit, si hacc probesapit, quia una voluntas est Patris et Filii, et inseparabilis operatio. Sic ergo intelligat illam incarnationem et ex Virgine nativitatem, in qua Filius intelligitur missus, una eademque operatione Patris et Filii inseparabili ter esse factam, non utique inde separato Spiritu san cto, de quo aperte dicitur, Inventa est in utero habens de Spiritu sancto. Nam etiam si ita quæramus,eno datius fortassis quod dicimus apparebit: Quomodo misit Deus Filium suum? Jussit ut veniret, atque ille jubenti obtemperans venit; an rogavit, an tantummo do admonuit? Sed quodlibet horum sil, verbo utique factum est, Dei autem Verbum ipse est Dei Filius. Quapropter cum eum Pater verbo misit, a Patre et Verbe ejus factum est ut mitteretur. Ergo a Patre et. Filio missus est idem Filius, quia Verbum Patris est ipse Filius. Quis enim se tam sacrilega induat opinio ne, ut putet temporale verbum a Patre factum esse, ut æternus Filius mitteretur et in carne appareret ex tempore? Sed utique in ipso Dei Verbo quod crat in principio apud Deum et Deus erat, in ipsa scilecet Sapientia Dei, sine tempore erat, quo tempore iilam in cante apparere oporteret. Itaque cum sine ullo in hio temporis in principio esset Yerbum, et Verbum esset apud Deum, et Deus esset Verbum; sino ullo tempore in ipso Verbo erat, quo tempore Verbum caro fleret, et habitaret in nobis. Quæ plenitudo temporis cum venisset, misit Deus Filium suum, factum ex muliere, id est, factum in tempore, ut incarnatum Verbum homi nibus appareret; quod in ipso Verbo sine tempore erat, in quo tempore fieret. Ordo quippe temporum in æterna Dei Sapientia sine tempore est. Cum itaque hoc a Patre et Filio factum esset, ut in carie Filius appareret, congruenter dictus est missus Hie qui in ea carne apparuit; misisse autem ille qui in ea non apparuit. Quoniam illa quæ coram corpo reis oculis foris geruntur, ab interiore apparatu naturos spiritualis existunt, ct propterea convenien ter missa dicuntur. Furma por ro illa suscepti homi nis, Filii persona est, non etiam Patris. Quapropter Pater invisibilis una cum Filio secum invisibili, eumdem Filium visibilem faciendo misisse eum ilictus est: qni si eo modo visibilis fieret, ut cum Patre invisibilis esse desisteret, id est, si sub stantia invisibilis Verbi in creaturam visibilem mutata et transiens verteretur, ita missus a Patre inlelligeretur Filius, ut tantum missus, non etiam rum Patre mittens inveniretur. Cum vero sic accepta est forma servi, ut maneret incommutabilis forma Dei, manifestum est quod a Patre et Filio non appa rentibus factum sit quod appareret in Filio, id est, ut ab invisibili Patre cum invisibili Filio, idem ipse Fi lius visibilis mitteretur. Cur ergo ait, Et a me ipso non veni? Jam hoc secundum formam servi dictum est, secundum quam dictum est, Ego non judico quemquam. Si ergo missus dicitur in quantum apparuit fo ris in creatura corporali, qui intus in natura spirituali oculis mortalium semper occultus est, jam in prom ptu est intelligere etiam de Spiritu sancto cur missus ct ipse dicatur. Facta est enim quædam creaturae spe Cies ex tempore in qua visibiliter ostenderetur Spi ritus sanctus, sive cum in ipsum Dominum corporali specie velut columba descendit, sive cum decem diebus peractis post ejus ascensionem, die Pentecostes factus est subito de coelo sonus quasi fer retur flatus vehemens, et visae sunt illis linguae di visæ tanquam ignis, qui et insedit super unumquem que eorum. Hæc operatio visibiliter ex pressa, et oculis oblata mortalibus, missio Spiritus sacti dicta est; non ut apparerct ejus ipsa substan tia, qua ct ipse invisibilis et incommutabilis est, sic ut Pater et Filius; sed ut exterioribus visis homi num corda commota, a temporali manifestatione ve nientis ad occultam æternitatem semper praesentis converterentur.
But, refuted on these points, they turn to this, saying: "He who sends is greater than he who is sent. Therefore the Father is greater than the Son, because the Son constantly recalls that he was sent by the Father; and he is greater than the Holy Spirit too, because Jesus said of him, 'whom the Father will send in my name.' And the Holy Spirit is less than both, because both the Father sends him, as we have recalled, and the Son, when he says, 'But if I go away, I will send him to you.'" In this question I first ask from where and to where the Son was sent. "I came out from the Father," he says, "and came into this world." To come out from the Father and come into this world, then, is to be sent. What, then, is it that the same evangelist says of him: "He was in this world, and the world was made through him, and the world did not know him"? Then he adds, "He came to his own." He was certainly sent to where he came; but if he was sent into this world because he came out from the Father and came into this world, and he was in this world, then he was sent to where he was. For also what is written in the prophet, that God says, "I fill heaven and earth": if it is said of the Son (for some wish it to be understood that he himself spoke either to the prophets or in the prophets), to where was he sent except to where he was? For he who says, "I fill heaven and earth," was everywhere. But if it is said of the Father, where could he be without his Word and without his Wisdom, which "reaches mightily from end to end and orders all things sweetly"? But neither could he be anywhere without his Spirit. So if God is everywhere, his Spirit too is everywhere. The Holy Spirit too, then, was sent to where he was. For he too who found no place to go from the face of God, and says, "If I ascend into heaven, you are there; if I descend into hell, you are present," wishing God to be understood as present everywhere, named his Spirit first. For he speaks thus: "Where shall I go from your Spirit? And where shall I flee from your face?" Therefore, if both the Son and the Holy Spirit are sent to where they were, we must ask how this sending is to be understood, whether of the Son or of the Holy Spirit. For the Father alone is nowhere read of as sent. And of the Son the Apostle writes thus: "But when the fullness of time came, God sent his Son, made of a woman, made under the Law, to redeem those who were under the Law." "He sent," he says, "his Son, made of a woman." What catholic does not know that by this name he wished to signify not the loss of virginity but the difference of sex, after the Hebrew manner of speaking? So when he says, "God sent his Son, made of a woman," he shows clearly enough that the Son was sent by the very fact that he was made of a woman. Insofar, then, as he was born of God, he was in this world; but insofar as he was born of Mary, he came, sent, into this world. Accordingly he could not be sent by the Father without the Holy Spirit: not only because it is understood that when the Father sent him, that is, made him of a woman, he certainly did not make him without his Spirit, but also because it is said most plainly and openly in the Gospel to the Virgin Mary when she asked the angel, "How will this be?": "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you"; and Matthew says, "She was found to be with child of the Holy Spirit." And in the prophet Isaiah, too, Christ himself is understood to say of his future coming, "And now the Lord has sent me, and his Spirit." Perhaps someone may press us to say that the Son was sent by himself as well, since that conception and birth from Mary is the work of the Trinity, by whose creating all things are created. "And how then," he says, "did the Father send him, if he sent himself?" To him I answer first by asking him to tell me, if he can, how the Father sanctified him, if he sanctified himself? For the same Lord says both: "Whom the Father," he says, "sanctified and sent into the world, do you say, 'You are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?" And in another place he says: "And for them I sanctify myself." Again I ask how the Father handed him over, if he handed himself over? For the apostle Paul says both: "He who did not spare his own Son," he says, "but handed him over for us all"; and elsewhere he says of the Savior himself, "who loved me and handed himself over for me." He will answer, I think, if he thinks rightly about these things, that there is one will of the Father and the Son and an inseparable working. Let him understand in the same way that the incarnation and birth from the Virgin, in which the Son is understood to have been sent, was done inseparably by one and the same working of the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit certainly not being separated from it, of whom it is plainly said, "She was found to be with child of the Holy Spirit." For if we ask in this way, perhaps what we are saying will appear more clearly: How did God send his Son? Did he command him to come, and did he come in obedience to the one commanding? Or did he ask him, or only advise him? But whichever of these it was, it was certainly done by a word; and the Word of God is the Son of God himself. Therefore, since the Father sent him by a word, it was done by the Father and his Word that he was sent. Therefore the same Son was sent by the Father and the Son, because the Son himself is the Word of the Father. For who would clothe himself in so sacrilegious an opinion as to think that a temporal word was made by the Father so that the eternal Son might be sent and appear in the flesh in time? But surely in the very Word of God, which was in the beginning with God and was God, in the very Wisdom of God, that is, there was, without time, the time at which that Wisdom ought to appear in the flesh. So, since without any beginning of time the Word was in the beginning, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, there was without any time in the Word himself the time at which the Word would become flesh and dwell among us. When this fullness of time had come, God sent his Son, made of a woman, that is, made in time, so that the incarnate Word might appear to men; and in the Word himself it was, without time, in what time this should be done. For the order of times is without time in the eternal Wisdom of God. So, since this was done by the Father and the Son, that the Son should appear in the flesh, he who appeared in that flesh is fittingly said to have been sent, and he who did not appear in it to have sent. For the things that are done outwardly before bodily eyes come into being from the inner preparation of the spiritual nature, and therefore they are fittingly said to be sent. Moreover, that form of the man who was taken is the person of the Son, not also of the Father. Therefore the invisible Father, together with the Son, who with him is invisible, is said to have sent the Son by making him visible. If the Son had become visible in such a way as to cease to be invisible with the Father, that is, if the invisible substance of the Word had been changed and turned, passing over into a visible creature, then the Son would be understood to have been sent by the Father in such a way that he would be found only sent, not also sending together with the Father. But since the form of a servant was so taken that the form of God remained unchangeable, it is plain that what appeared in the Son was done by the Father and the Son, who did not appear; that is, that the same Son, made visible, was sent by the invisible Father together with the invisible Son. Why, then, does he say, "And I have not come of myself"? This is said according to the form of a servant, according to which it is said, "I judge no one." If, then, he is said to be sent insofar as he appeared outwardly in a bodily creature, who inwardly in his spiritual nature is always hidden from the eyes of mortals, it is now easy to understand why the Holy Spirit too is said to be sent. For a certain form of creature was made in time in which the Holy Spirit might be shown visibly, whether when he descended upon the Lord himself in bodily form like a dove, or when, ten days after his ascension, on the day of Pentecost, there came suddenly from heaven a sound as of a mighty wind rushing, and there appeared to them divided tongues as of fire, which also rested on each one of them. This working, visibly expressed and offered to mortal eyes, was called the sending of the Holy Spirit: not that his very substance might appear, in which he too is invisible and unchangeable, like the Father and the Son, but that human hearts, moved by outward sights, might be turned from the temporal manifestation of him who comes to the hidden eternity of him who is always present.
John 14:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 23:24 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 139:8 (138:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 139:7 (138:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 48:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:36 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 2:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 8:42 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 2:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 2:3 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine argues that being sent does not make the Son or the Spirit less: both are sent to where they already were, and 'sending' means their visible appearance in a creature, which the invisible Father and Son brought about together.
- The digital text begins with the end of Migne's chapter summary ('a se ipso missus. De missione Spiritus sancti'); omitted by logged correction.
- Quotations: John 14:26; John 16:7; John 16:28; John 1:10–11; Jer 23:24; Wis 8:1; Ps 139:8, 7 (Ps 138 Vulgate); Gal 4:4–5; Luke 1:34–35; Matt 1:18; Isa 48:16; John 10:36; John 17:19; Rom 8:32; Gal 2:20; John 1:1, 14; John 8:42; John 8:15; Matt 3:16; Acts 2:2–3.
- 'Made of a woman': Augustine explains that 'woman' (mulier) here denotes sex, not the loss of virginity, 'after the Hebrew manner of speaking.'
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (end of Migne's chapter summary): a se ipso missus. De missione Spiritus sancti. Sed → Sed.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 8:1 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.5 (PL 42:847–851; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.6PL 42:851–853
Ideo autem nusquam scriptum est, quod Deus Pater major sit Spiritu san cto, vel Spiritus sanctus minor Deo Patre, quia non sic est assumpta creatura, in qua appareret Spiritus sanctus, sicut assumptus est lilius hominis, in qua forma ipsius Verbi Dei persona praesentaretur: non ut haberet Verbum Dei, sicut alii sancti sapientes, sed præ participibus suis; non. utique quod amplius habebat Verbum, ut esset quam caeteri excellentiore sapientia, sed quod ipsum Verbum erat. Aliud est enim Verbum in carne, aliud Verbum caro; id est, aliud est Verbum in homine, aliud Verbum homo. Caro enim pro homine posita est in eo quod ait, Verbum caro factum eat: sicut et it- Ind, Et videbit omnis caro pariter salutare Dei. Non enim sine anirna vel sine mente: sed ita om nia caro, ac si diceretur, Omnis homo. Non ergo sic cat assumpta creatura, in qua appareret Spiritus san etus, sicut assumpta est caro illa et humana illa for ma ex virgine Maria. Ncque enim columbam beatifi cavit Spiritus, vel illum flatum, vel illum ignem, sibi que et personae suae in unitatem habitumque con junxit in æternum: aut vero mutabilis et convertibi lis est natura Spiritus sancti, ut non baec ex crea tura fierent, sed ipse in illud atque illud mutabiliter verteretur, sicut aqua in glaciem. Sed apparuerunt ista, sicut opportune apparere debuerunt, creatura ser. viente Creatori, et ad nutum ejus incommutabiliter in se ipso permanentis, ad eum significandum et de monstrandum, sicut significari et demonstrari mortali bus oportebat, mutata atque conversa. Proinde, quan. quam illa columba Spiritus dicta sit, et de illo igne cum diceretur, Visæ sunt illis, inquit, lin. guæ divisæ velut ignis, qui et insedit super unumquemque eorum, et cceperunt linguis loqui, quemadmodum Spiri tua dabat eia pronunliqre, ut ostenderet per illum ignem Spiritum demonstratum, sicut per columbam: non tamen ita possumus dicere Spiritum sanctum et Deum et columbam 1, aut et Deum et ignem, sicut dicimus Filium et Deum et homincm: nec sicut dicimus Filium agnum Dei, non solum Joanne Baptista dicente, Ecce Agnus Dei (loan. I, 29); sed etiam Joanne evangelista vidente Agnum occisunl in Apocalypsi. Illa quippe visio prophetica non est exhibita oculis corporeis per formas corpo reas, sed in spiritu per spirituales imagines corporum. Columbam vero illam et ignem oculis viderunt, qui cumque viderunt. Quanquam de igne disceptari potest, utrum oculis, an spiritu visus sit, propter verba sic posita. Non enim ait, Viderunt linguas divisas velut ignem; sed, Visae sunt eis. Non autem sub eadem si gnificatione solemus dicere, Visum est mihi, qua dici mus, Vidi. Et in illis quidem spiritualibus visis ima ginum corporalium solet dici, et, Visum est niihi; et, Vidi: in istis vero quae per expressam corporalem speciem oculis demonstrantur, non solet dici, Visum est mihi; sed, Vidi. De illo ergo igne potest esse quæ stio, quomodo visus sit; utrum iutus in spiritu tan quam foris, an vere foris coram oculis carnis. De illa vero columba quae dicta est corporali specie descen* disse, nullus unquam dubitavit quod oculis visa sit. Nec sicut dicimus Filium petram (scriptum e t enim, Petra autem erat Chrislus [I Cor. x, 4] ), ita possurnus dicere Spiritum columbam vel ignem. Ilia enim petra jam erat in creatura, et per actionis modum nuncu pata est nomine Christi quem significabat; sicut lapis ille, quem Jacob positum ad caput etiam unctione, ad significandum Dominum assumpsit; sicut Isaac Christus erat, cum ad se immolan dum ligna portabat. Accessit btis actio quædam significativa jam existentibus: non autem, sicut illa columba et ignis, ad haec tantummodo signi ficanda repente exstiterunt, Magis ista similia milii videntur flammæ illi quæ in rubo apparuit Moysi, et illi columnae quam populus in ercnio sequebatur, et fulguribus et tonitruis quae flebant cum Lex daretur in monte. Ad hoc enim illarum rerum corporalis exstitit spe cies, ut aliquid significaret atque præteriret.
And it is nowhere written that God the Father is greater than the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Spirit less than God the Father, for this reason: the creature in which the Holy Spirit appeared was not taken up in the way in which the Son of Man was taken up, the form in which the person of the Word of God himself was presented; not so that he might have the Word of God, as other holy and wise men have, but above his fellows; not, certainly, in that he had the Word more fully, so as to be of more excellent wisdom than the rest, but in that he was the Word himself. For the Word in flesh is one thing, the Word flesh another; that is, the Word in a man is one thing, the Word man another. For "flesh" is put for "man" where he says, "The Word became flesh"; as also in this: "And all flesh shall see the salvation of God together." For not without soul or without mind; but "all flesh" is said as if it were said "every man." The creature, then, in which the Holy Spirit appeared was not taken up in the way in which that flesh and that human form from the Virgin Mary was taken up. For the Spirit did not beatify the dove, or that wind, or that fire, and join it to himself and to his person in unity and union forever. Nor, on the other hand, is the nature of the Holy Spirit changeable and convertible, so that these things were not made from the creature, but he himself was changeably turned into this and that, as water into ice. But these things appeared as they ought to appear at the fitting time, the creature serving the Creator, and, at the bidding of him who remains unchangeable in himself, being changed and turned in order to signify and show him, as it was fitting that he should be signified and shown to mortals. Accordingly, although that dove is called the Spirit, and of that fire, when it was said, "There appeared to them divided tongues as of fire, which rested on each one of them, and they began to speak in tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance," this was said to show that the Spirit was manifested by that fire as by the dove; yet we cannot say that the Holy Spirit is both God and a dove, or both God and fire, in the way we say that the Son is both God and man; nor in the way we call the Son the Lamb of God, not only because John the Baptist says, "Behold the Lamb of God," but also because John the evangelist sees the Lamb that was slain in the Apocalypse. For that prophetic vision was not presented to bodily eyes through bodily forms, but in the spirit through spiritual images of bodies. But that dove and that fire, whoever saw them saw with their eyes. Although it can be debated about the fire whether it was seen with the eyes or in the spirit, because of the words used. For it does not say, "They saw divided tongues as of fire," but "There appeared to them." And we do not usually say "It appeared to me" in the same sense in which we say "I saw." And in those spiritual visions of bodily images it is usual to say both "It appeared to me" and "I saw"; but in those things that are shown to the eyes in a distinct bodily form, it is not usual to say "It appeared to me," but "I saw." So there can be a question about that fire, how it was seen: whether inwardly in the spirit as though outwardly, or truly outwardly before the eyes of the flesh. But of that dove, which is said to have descended in bodily form, no one has ever doubted that it was seen with the eyes. Nor can we call the Spirit a dove or fire in the way in which we call the Son a rock (for it is written, "And the rock was Christ"). For that rock already existed in creation, and by way of its function it was called by the name of Christ, whom it signified; like that stone which Jacob, having placed it at his head, also took up with anointing to signify the Lord; as Isaac was Christ when he carried the wood for his own sacrifice. A certain signifying action was added to these things, which already existed; but they did not, like that dove and fire, suddenly come into being only to signify these things. These seem to me more like the flame that appeared to Moses in the bush, and that pillar which the people followed in the desert, and the lightnings and thunders that occurred when the Law was given on the mountain. For the bodily appearance of those things came into being for this purpose, to signify something and pass away.
Ps 45:7 (44:8 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 40:5 (quotation, medium confidence) · Acts 2:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 2:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 5:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 28:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 22:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 13:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 19:16 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine explains why the Spirit is never called less than the Father: the dove and the fire were not united to the Spirit as Christ's humanity was united to the Word, but were passing signs, like the burning bush and the pillar of cloud.
- Quotations and allusions: Ps 45:7 (Ps 44:8 Vulgate); John 1:14; Luke 3:6 (Isa 40:5); Acts 2:3–4; John 1:29; Rev 5:6; 1 Cor 10:4; Gen 28:18; Gen 22:6; Exod 3:2; Exod 13:21; Exod 19:16.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.6 (PL 42:851–853; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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2.7PL 42:853
Propter has ergo corporales formas, quæ ad eum significandum, et sicut humanis sensibus opor tebat dcmonstrandum temporaliter exstiterunt, missus dicitur eliam Spiritus sanctus: non tamen minor Pa tre dictus est, sicut Filius propter formam servi; qnia illa forma servi inhaesit ad unitatem personae, illæ vero species corporales ad demonstrandum quod opus fait ad tempus apparuerunt, et esse postea de stiterunt. Cur ergo non et Pater dicitur missus per illas species corporales, ignem rubi, et columnam na bis vel ignis, et fulgura in monte, et si qua talia tunc apparuerunt, cum eum coram locutum Patribus, teste Scriptura didicimus, si pcr illos creaturæ modos et formas corporalitcr expressas et humanis aspectibus præsentatas ipse demonstrabatur? Si autem Filius per ea demonstrabatur, cor tanto post dicitur missus, cnm ex femina factus est, sicut Apostolus dicit, Cum autem venit plenitudo temporis, misit Deus Filium suum factum ex muliere: quandoquidem et antea mittebatur, cum per illas creaturæ mulabi les formas Patribus apparebat? Aut si non recte pos sel dici missus, nisi cnm Verbum caro factum est; cur missus dicitur Spiritus sanctus, eujus nulla talis incorporatio facta est? Si vero per illa visibilia quae in Lege et Prophetis commendantur, nec Pater, nee Filius, sed Spiritus sanctus ostendebatur; cur etiam ipse nunc dicitur missus, cum illis modis et antea tnilterelur? In hujus perplexitate quaestionis, adjuvante Domino primum quaerendum est, utrum Pater. an Fi lius, an Spiritus sanctus; an aliquando Pater, ali quando Filius, aliquando Spiritus sanctus; an sine ulla distinctione personarum, sicut dicitur Deus unus et solus, id est, ipsa Trinitas per illas creaturae for mas Patribus apparuerit. Deinde, quodlibet horum inventum visumve fuerit, utrum ad boc opus tantum modo creatura formata sit, in qua Deus, sicut tunc oportuisse judicavit, humanis ostenderetur aspecli-. bus: an Angeli, qui jam erant, ita mittebantur, ut ex persona Dei loquerentur, assumentes corporalem spe ciem de creatura corporea, in usum ministerii sui, sicut cuique opus esset; aut ipsum corpus suum cui non subduntur, sed subditum regunt, in species quas vellent accommodatas atque aptas actionibus suis mu tantes atque vertentes secundum attributam sibi a Crenlore potentiam. Postremo videbimus id quod quærere institueramus, utrum Filius et Spiritus san ctus et antea mittebantur; et, si mittebantur, quid inter illani missionem, et eain quam in Evangelio le gimus, distet: an missus non sit aliquis eorum, nisi cum vel Filius factus esset es Maria virgine, vel cum. Spiritus sanctus visibili specie sive in columba, sive in igneis linguis apparuit.
It is on account of these bodily forms, then, which came into being in time to signify him and to show him as was fitting for human senses, that the Holy Spirit too is said to be sent; yet he is not said to be less than the Father, as the Son is on account of the form of a servant, because that form of a servant clung to him in the unity of person, whereas those bodily appearances appeared for a time to show what was needed, and afterward ceased to be. Why, then, is the Father not also said to be sent through those bodily appearances, the fire of the bush, the pillar of cloud or of fire, the lightnings on the mountain, and whatever such things appeared then, when, as we learn from the testimony of Scripture, he spoke face to face with the fathers, if it was he himself who was shown through those modes and forms of the creature, bodily expressed and presented to human sight? But if it was the Son who was shown through them, why is he said to be sent so long afterward, when he was made of a woman, as the Apostle says, "But when the fullness of time came, God sent his Son, made of a woman," since he was being sent before too, when he appeared to the fathers through those changeable forms of the creature? Or if he could not rightly be said to be sent except when the Word became flesh, why is the Holy Spirit said to be sent, of whom no such incorporation took place? But if through those visible things that are commended in the Law and the Prophets neither the Father nor the Son but the Holy Spirit was shown, why is he too now said to be sent, when he was being sent in those ways before as well? In the perplexity of this question, with the Lord's help, we must first ask whether it was the Father, or the Son, or the Holy Spirit; or sometimes the Father, sometimes the Son, sometimes the Holy Spirit; or, without any distinction of persons, as God is called one and only, that is, the Trinity itself, that appeared to the fathers through those forms of the creature. Then, whichever of these is found or seen to be so, whether a creature was formed only for this work, in which God might be shown to human sight as he then judged fitting; or whether angels, who already existed, were sent in such a way as to speak in the person of God, taking a bodily appearance from bodily creation for the use of their ministry, as each case required, or changing and turning their own body, to which they are not subject but which they rule as subject to them, into whatever appearances they wished, suited and fit for their actions, according to the power given them by the Creator. Finally we shall see what we had set out to ask: whether the Son and the Holy Spirit were sent before as well; and if they were sent, what difference there is between that sending and the one we read of in the Gospel; or whether neither of them was sent except when either the Son was made of the Virgin Mary or the Holy Spirit appeared in visible form, whether in the dove or in the fiery tongues.
Exod 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 13:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 19:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine raises the question of the Old Testament theophanies: was it the Father, the Son, the Spirit, or the whole Trinity that appeared to the fathers, did God appear through a creature formed for the purpose or through angels, and were the Son and Spirit 'sent' before the incarnation?
- Quotations and allusions: Exod 3:2; Exod 13:21; Exod 19:16; Gal 4:4; John 1:14.
- The digital text ends with a footnote marker '(a)' of the edition.
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- Digital text corrected (edition's footnote marker): linguis apparuit (a) → linguis apparuit.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 2.7 (PL 42:853; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/2-0/#p-2-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).