The Conferences 3.20–4.18
Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 13 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig (CSEL 13, 1886), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 11 (1894).
Chapter 3
3.20CSEL 13:92–93
Credere tamen inconcussa fide nos conuenit nihil sine deo prorsus in hoc mundo geri. aut enim uoluntate eius aut permissu agi uniuersa fatendum est, ut scilicet haec quae bona sunt uoluntate dei perfici auxilioque credantur, quae autem contraria sunt permissu, cum pro nequitiis ac duritia cordis nostri deserens nos diuina protectio diabolum nobis uel ignominiosas corporis passiones patitur dominari. quod etiam apostoli uocibus euidentissime perdocemur dicentis: propter quod tradidit illos deus in passiones ignominiae, et iterum: quia non crediderunt deum habere in notitia, tradidit illos deus in reprobum sensum, ut faciant ea quae non conuenit, et ipse dominus per prophetam: et non audiuit populus meus uocem meam: et Israhel non intendit mihi. propter quod dimisi eos, inquit, secundum adinuentiones cordium eorum, ambulabunt in adinuentionibus suis.
“Yet we must believe with unshaken faith that nothing at all is done in this world without God. For it must be confessed that everything is done either by his will or by his permission: that is, that good things are believed to be accomplished by God's will and help, and contrary things by his permission, when the divine protection, forsaking us because of our wickedness and hardness of heart, allows the devil or shameful passions of the body to rule over us. This we are most plainly taught by the words of the apostle: ‘For this reason God gave them up to shameful passions’; and again: ‘Because they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a reprobate mind, to do what is not fitting.’ And the Lord himself says through the prophet: ‘And my people did not hear my voice, and Israel did not heed me. So I let them go,’ he says, ‘according to the devices of their hearts; they shall walk in their own devices.’”
Rom 1:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 81:11 (80:12 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 81:12 (80:13 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Nothing happens without God: good things by his will, evil things by his permission when he withdraws his protection from the hardened.
- Rom 1:26, 28; Ps 81:11–12 (80:12–13 LXX).
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 3.20 (CSEL 13:92–93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-3-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.21CSEL 13:93
GERMANVS: Hoc testimonium apertissime liberum demonstrat arbitrium quod dicitur: si populus meus audisset me, et alibi: et non audiuit populus meus uocem meam. cum enim dicit si audisset, ostendit in potestate illius fuisse uel adquiescendi uel non adquiescendi iudicium. quomodo igitur non in nobis nostra salus est conlocanda, cum uel audiendi uel non audiendi ipse nobis concesserit facultatem?
Germanus: “This testimony most plainly shows free will: ‘If my people had heard me’; and elsewhere, ‘And my people did not hear my voice.’ For when he says ‘if they had heard,’ he shows that the decision to consent or not to consent was in their power. How then is our salvation not to be placed in ourselves, when he himself has granted us the power either to hear or not to hear?”
Ps 81:13 (80:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 81:11 (80:12 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Germanus argues that God's words “if my people had heard me” show that salvation lies in our power.
- Ps 81:13 (80:14 LXX); Ps 81:11 (80:12 LXX).
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 3.21 (CSEL 13:93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-3-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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3.22CSEL 13:93–96
PAFNVTIVS: Acute quidem considerastis hoc quod dicitur si audisset me, sed nequaquam qui sit qui ad audientem uel non audientem loquatur adtendistis nec illud quod sequitur: pro nihilo utique inimicos eius humiliassem: et super tribulantes eum inmisissem manum meam. nemo igitur haec quae protulimus, ut nihil geri sine domino probaremus, praua interpretatione detorquens ad defensionem liberi arbitrii ita conetur adsumere, ut ab homine gratiam dei prouisionemque cotidianam temptet auferre per hoc quod dicitur: et non audiuit populus meus uocem meam, et iterum: si populus meus audisset me, Israhel si in uiis meis ambulasset et cetera, sed respiciat, quod sicut liberi arbitrii facultas populi inoboedientia demonstratur, ita cotidiana circa eum prouisio dei clamantis quodammodo et monentis ostenditur. cum enim dicit: si populus meus audisset me, priorem utique se locutum eis euidenter ostendit. quod fieri a domino non solum per legem scriptam litteris, uerum etiam cotidianis monitis solet secundum illud quod per Esaiam dicitur: tota die expandi manus meas ad populum non credentem mihi et contradicentem. utrumque ergo potest hoc testimonio conprobari quod dicitur: si populus meus audisset me, Israhel si in uiis meis ambulasset, pro nihilo utique inimicos eius humiliassem: et super tribulantes eum inmisissem manum meam. nam sicut liberum arbitrium per inoboedientiam populi demonstratur, ita dispensatio dei et auxilium eius uersiculi ipsius initio declaratur ac fine, cum se et priorem locutum fuisse commemorat et postea inimicos eius humiliaturum, si ab eodem fuisset auditus. nos enim per haec quae protulimus non liberum arbitrium hominis uolumus submouere, sed huic adiutorium et gratiam dei per singulos dies ac momenta necessariam conprobare. His nos sermonibus eruditos abba Pafnutius e sua cella non tam alacres quam conpunctos corde ante medium noctis emisit, hoc nobis praecipuum suae conlationis conferens munere, ut cum per abrenuntiationis primae consummationem, quam tota uirtute studebamus inplere, adtingenda nobis perfectionis culmina crederemus, inciperemus agnoscere necdum nos coepisse monachorum fastigia somniare, quippe qui de secunda abrenuntiatione parum quid in coenobiis eruditi tertiam, in qua omnis perfectio continetur quaeque illas inferiores duas multis praecedit modis, ne auditu quidem nos antea percepisse nossemus.
Paphnutius: “You have indeed considered shrewdly the words ‘if he had heard me,’ but you have paid no attention to who it is who speaks to the one who hears or does not hear, nor to what follows: ‘I would soon have humbled his enemies, and laid my hand on those who trouble him.’ Let no one, then, twisting by a perverse interpretation what we have brought forward to prove that nothing is done without the Lord, try to take it up in defence of free will in such a way as to attempt to take away from man the grace and daily providence of God, on the ground of the words, ‘And my people did not hear my voice,’ and again, ‘If my people had heard me, if Israel had walked in my ways,’ and the rest. Let him consider rather that, just as the power of free will is shown by the disobedience of the people, so God's daily providence toward them is shown, as he in a way cries out and warns. For when he says, ‘If my people had heard me,’ he plainly shows that he spoke to them first. The Lord does this not only through the law written in letters but also by daily admonitions, according to what is said through Isaiah: ‘All day long I have stretched out my hands to a people that does not believe me and contradicts me.’ Both things, then, can be proved by this testimony: ‘If my people had heard me, if Israel had walked in my ways, I would soon have humbled his enemies, and laid my hand on those who trouble him.’ For just as free will is shown by the disobedience of the people, so the dispensation of God and his help are declared at the beginning and the end of the verse itself, when he recalls that he spoke first and that he would afterwards have humbled their enemies, if he had been heard by them. For by what we have brought forward we do not wish to remove man's free will, but to prove that God's help and grace are necessary to it every day and every moment.” With these words Abba Paphnutius sent us out of his cell before midnight, instructed, and not so much cheered as pierced in heart. He gave us this as the chief gift of his conference: that, whereas we believed we should reach the summit of perfection by fulfilling the first renunciation, which we were striving to carry out with all our strength, we began to recognize that we had not yet begun even to dream of the heights of monks. For we had learned little in the coenobia about the second renunciation, and we knew that we had never before even heard of the third, in which all perfection is contained and which surpasses those two lower ones in many ways.
Ps 81:13 (80:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 81:14 (80:15 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 81:11 (80:12 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 65:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:21 (quotation, medium confidence)
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Summary: Paphnutius answers that the same psalm shows both human freedom and God's prior call and help, and dismisses the visitors humbled, realizing they have barely begun the renunciations.
- Ps 81:13–14 (80:14–15 LXX); Isa 65:2 (Rom 10:21).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): hiimiliassem → humiliassem; cum enim dioit → cum enim dicit.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 3.22 (CSEL 13:93–96; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-3-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 4
4.1CSEL 13:96–98
Inter ceteros Christianae philosophiae uiros abbatem quoque uidimus Danihelem, aequalem quidem in omni uirtutum genere his qui in heremo Sciti conmanebant, sed peculiarius gratia humilitatis ornatum. qui merito puritatis ac mansuetudinis suae a beato Pafnutio solitudinis eiusdem presbytero, et quidem cum multis iunior esset aetate, ad diaconii est praelectus officium. in tantum enim idem beatus Pafnutius uirtutibus ipsius adgaudebat, ut quem uitae meritis et gratia parem nouerat, coaequare sibi etiam sacerdotii ordine festinaret: siquidem nequaquam ferens in inferiore eum ministerio diutius inmorari optansque sibimet successorem dignissimum prouidere superstes eum presbyterii honore prouexit. qui tamen prioris humilitatis consuetudinem non omittens nihil umquam sibi illo praesente de sublimioris ordinis adiectione donauit, sed semper abbate Pafnutio spiritales hostias offerente hic uelut diaconus in prioris ministerii permansit officio. in quo tamen beatum Pafnutium, cum talis uir esset ac tantus, ut in multis etiam praescientiae gratiam possideret, haec spes substitutionis electioque frustrata est. nam non multo post hunc, quem sibi parauerat successorem, praemisit ad deum.
Among the other men of Christian philosophy we also saw Abba Daniel, equal indeed in every kind of virtue to those who lived in the desert of Scetis, but adorned more particularly with the grace of humility. Because of his purity and gentleness he was chosen for the office of deacon by the blessed Paphnutius, presbyter of that same wilderness, although he was younger than many. For the same blessed Paphnutius so rejoiced in his virtues that he hastened to make equal to himself in the order of priesthood too one whom he knew to be his equal in the merits and grace of life. Unable to bear his remaining any longer in the lower ministry, and wishing to provide a most worthy successor for himself, he raised him, while he himself was still living, to the honor of the presbyterate. Yet he did not give up the habit of his former humility, and never, in the other's presence, claimed anything for himself from the addition of the higher order; but whenever Abba Paphnutius offered the spiritual sacrifices, he remained in the duty of his former ministry, as a deacon. Yet in this, though the blessed Paphnutius was such and so great a man that in many things he possessed even the grace of foreknowledge, his hope and choice of a successor were disappointed; for not long afterwards he sent ahead of him to God the one he had prepared as his successor.
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Summary: Abba Daniel, a humble monk of Scetis, was ordained deacon and then presbyter by Paphnutius, yet kept serving as a deacon, and died before Paphnutius.
- “Spiritual sacrifices”: the Eucharistic offering.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray full stop): Fafnutio → Pafnutio; cam multis iunior → cum multis iunior; praAlectus → praelectus; gratia parem. nouerat → gratia parem nouerat; nihil nmquam → nihil umquam.
Topics: Church office, Eucharist
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.1 (CSEL 13:96–98; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.2CSEL 13:98
Hic igitur beatus Danihel inquirentibus nobis, cur interdum residentes in cellula tanta alacritate cordis cum ineffabili quodam gaudio et exuberantia sacratissimorum sensuum repleremur, ut eam non dicam sermo subsequi, sed ne ipse quidem sensus occurreret, oratio quoque pura emitteretur ac prompta et mens plena spiritalibus fructibus preces suas efficaces ac lenes etiam per soporem supplicans ad deum peruenire sentiret, ac rursum nullis exsistentibus causis tanto subito repleremur angore et inrationabili quadam maestitia premeremur, ut non solum nosmet ipsos huiusmodi sensibus arescere sentiremus, uerum etiam horreret cella, sorderet lectio, ipsa quoque instabilis ac nutabunda et quodammodo ebria emitteretur oratio, ita ut ingemescentibus et conantibus nobis ad directionem pristinam reuocari mens nostra non posset, quantoque intentius ad dei reduceretur intuitum, tanto uehementius ad discursus instabiles lubrico raperetur excessu et ita omni spiritali fructu redderetur effeta, ut nec desiderio regni caelorum nec metu gehennae proposito ab hoc letali quodam somno ualeret excitari, ita respondit.
This blessed Daniel, then, when we asked him why it was that sometimes, as we sat in our cell, we were filled with such gladness of heart, with an unspeakable joy and an overflowing of the holiest feelings, that not only could speech not follow it, but even feeling could not keep pace with it; prayer too was sent up pure and ready, and the mind, full of spiritual fruits, felt its prayers reaching God effective and gentle even while it prayed in sleep; and why, again, for no reason at all, we were suddenly filled with such anguish and weighed down by an unreasonable sadness that we not only felt ourselves drying up as to such feelings, but even the cell was loathsome, reading was distasteful, and prayer itself was sent up unsteady, wavering, and as it were drunken; so that, though we groaned and tried, our mind could not be called back to its former direction, and the more intently it was led back to the contemplation of God, the more violently it was snatched away in a slippery excursion into unstable wanderings, and so became barren of all spiritual fruit that it could not be roused from this deadly sleep either by the desire of the kingdom of heaven set before it or by the fear of Gehenna, answered as follows.
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Summary: Cassian and Germanus ask Daniel why their prayer sometimes overflows with joy and at other times, for no reason, turns dry and sad.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): neram etiam → uerum etiam; ita respondit.- → ita respondit..
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.2 (CSEL 13:98; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.3CSEL 13:98–99
Tripertita nobis a maioribus ratio super hac qua dicitis sterilitate mentis est tradita. aut enim de neglegentia nostra aut de inpugnatione diaboli aut de dispensatione domini ac probatione descendit. et de neglegentia quidem, cum uitio nostro tepore praecedente incircumspecte nosmet ipsos et remissius exhibentes et per ignauam desidiam noxiis cogitationibus pasti terram cordis nostri spinas et tribulos facimus germinare, quibus in ea pullulantibus consequenter efficimur steriles atque ab omni spiritali fructu et contemplatione ieiuni. de inpugnatione uero diaboli, cum etiam bonis nonnumquam studiis dediti callida subtilitate mentem nostram aduersario penetrante uel ignorantes ab optimis intentionibus abstrahimur uel inuiti.
“A threefold explanation of this barrenness of mind you speak of has been handed down to us by the elders. It comes either from our negligence, or from the assault of the devil, or from the Lord's dispensation and testing. From negligence, when, through our own fault and a preceding lukewarmness, we behave carelessly and slackly, and, feeding on harmful thoughts through idle sloth, make the soil of our heart produce thorns and thistles; as these spring up in it, we are consequently made barren and empty of all spiritual fruit and contemplation. From the assault of the devil, when, even while we are sometimes devoted to good pursuits, the adversary penetrates our mind with cunning subtlety and we are drawn away from the best intentions either without knowing it or against our will.”
Gen 3:18 (echo, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Spiritual dryness has three causes: our negligence, the devil's attack, or God's testing.
- Gen 3:18 (thorns and thistles).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray page number): qua dicitis 30 sterilitate → qua dicitis sterilitate; diaboli ant de → diaboli aut de.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.3 (CSEL 13:98–99; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.4CSEL 13:99–100
Dispensationis autem ac probationis duplex causa est. prima, ut paulisper a domino derelicti et mentis nostrae infirmitatem humiliter intuentes super praecedente puritate cordis, quae nobis est illius uisitatione donata, nullatenus extollamur, probantesque nos ab eodem derelictos gemitibus nostris et industria illum laetitiae ac puritatis statum recuperare non posse intellegamus et praeteritam cordis alacritatem non nostro studio, sed illius nobis dignatione conlatam et praesentem de ipsius rursum gratia et inluminatione esse poscendam. secunda uero probationis est causa, ut perseuerantia nostra uel mentis constantia et desiderium conprobetur, et qua intentione cordis uel orationum instantia deserentem nos uisitationem sancti spiritus requiramus, manifestetur in nobis, ac pariter agnoscentes, quanto labore amissum istud spiritale gaudium et puritatis laetitia conquiratur, sollicitius inuentam custodire ac tenere adtentius studeamus. quodammodo enim neglegentius custodiri solet quidquid creditur facile posse reparari.
“The dispensation and testing have a twofold cause. The first is that, being forsaken for a little while by the Lord and humbly seeing the weakness of our mind, we may not be puffed up at all over the earlier purity of heart given us by his visitation; and that, finding by experience that when forsaken by him we cannot recover that state of joy and purity by our groans and effort, we may understand that our former gladness of heart was bestowed on us not by our own zeal but by his condescension, and that our present one must be asked again from his grace and illumination. The second cause of the testing is that our perseverance, constancy of mind, and desire may be proved, and that it may be shown in us with what intention of heart and urgency of prayer we seek the visitation of the Holy Spirit when it leaves us; and that, recognizing at the same time with what labor this spiritual joy and the gladness of purity are regained once lost, we may take more care to guard it once found and hold it more attentively. For whatever is believed to be easily recoverable is usually guarded rather carelessly.”
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Summary: God withdraws his consolation to keep us humble, showing that joy in prayer is his gift, and to test our perseverance so that we guard it better when it returns.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): laetitiae ae puritatis → laetitiae ac puritatis; posse reparari.. → posse reparari..
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.4 (CSEL 13:99–100; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.5CSEL 13:100
Per quae euidenter probatur gratiam dei ac misericordiam semper operari in nobis ea quae bona sunt: qua deserente nihil ualere studium laborantis et quantamlibet adnitentis industriam sine ipsius iterum adiutorio statum pristinum recuperare non posse illudque in nobis iugiter adimpleri: non uolentis neque currentis, sed miserentis est dei. quae gratia nonnumquam e contrario neglegentes ac resolutos inspiratione hac qua dicitis sancta et abundantia spiritalium cogitationum uisitare non rennuit, sed inspirat indignos, exsuscitat dormitantes et inluminat ignorantiae caecitate possessos clementerque nos arguit atque castigat infundens se cordibus nostris, ut uel sic de inertiae somno conpunctione ipsius instigati consurgere prouocemur. denique frequenter etiam odoribus ultra omnem suauitatem conpositionis humanae in his ipsis subito uisitationibus adimplemur, ita ut mens hac oblectatione resoluta in quendam spiritus rapiatur excessum seque conmorari obliuiscatur in carne.
“By this it is clearly proved that the grace and mercy of God always work in us what is good; that when it leaves us, the zeal of one who labors avails nothing; and that however much one strives, his effort cannot recover the former state without its help again; and that this is continually fulfilled in us: ‘It is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy.’ On the other hand, this grace sometimes does not refuse to visit even the negligent and slack with that holy inspiration you speak of and an abundance of spiritual thoughts; it inspires the unworthy, rouses the sleepy, and enlightens those held in the blindness of ignorance, and mercifully reproves and chastens us by pouring itself into our hearts, so that, stirred by its compunction, we may be moved to rise even so from the sleep of sloth. Indeed, in these very visitations we are often suddenly filled with fragrances beyond all the sweetness of human compounding, so that the mind, dissolved in this delight, is caught up into a kind of ecstasy of the spirit and forgets that it is dwelling in the flesh.”
Rom 9:16 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Grace alone works what is good in us; when it withdraws, effort cannot restore the former state, yet it also visits the negligent and unworthy to rouse them.
- Rom 9:16.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): adintorio → adiutorio; adiDpleri → adimpleri.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.5 (CSEL 13:100; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Petschenig's Latin text (CSEL 13, 1886); compared afterwards with the NPNF² 11 translation (Gibson, 1894), which omits Conference 22 (checked against the Latin only).
4.6CSEL 13:100–102
In tantum uero illum quem diximus abscessum et ut ita loquar desertionem dei beatus Dauid utilem esse cognouit, ut nequaquam orare maluerit, ne a deo in nullo penitus relinqueretur (hoc enim sciebat incongruum esse uel sibi uel humanae naturae ad quamlibet peruenienti perfectionem), sed temperari eam potius deprecatus sit dicens: non me derelinquas usque quaque, ac si diceret aliis uerbis: scio quod derelinquere soleas utiliter tuos sanctos, ut eos probes. aliter enim ab aduersario temptari non possunt, nisi a te paulisper fuerint derelicti. et ideo non rogo ut numquam me derelinquas, quia non expedit mihi, ut non uel meam infirmitatem sentiens dicam: bonum mihi quod humiliasti me, uel exercitium non habeam proeliandi. quod sine dubio habere non potero, si mihi semper et indisrupte cohaeserit diuina protectio. suffultum namque me tua defensione temptare diabolus non audebit, illud obiciens et exprobrans uel mihi uel tibi, quod aduersus athletas tuos solet calumniosa uoce proferre: numquid gratis Iob colit deum? nonne uallasti eum, ac domum eius, uniuersamque substantiam eius per circuitum? sed magis peto ne me usque quaque deseras, quod Graece dicitur ἕως σφόδρα, id est usque ad nimietatem. quantum enim mihi utile est si me paululum subrelinquas, ut desiderii mei constantia conprobetur, tantum noxium est si pro meritis ac delictis meis nimium me deseri patiaris, quia nulla uirtus humana, si diutius in temptatione tuo deseratur auxilio, sua poterit constantia perdurare et non protinus aduersarii uel potentia uel factione subcumbere, nisi tu ipse, qui es humanarum uirium conscius ac luctaminum moderator, non permiseris temptari nos super id quod possumus, sed feceris cum temptatione et exitum, ut sustinere possimus. tale quid et in Iudicum libro super exterminatione gentium spiritalium quae aduersantur Israheli mystice legimus designatum: hae sunt gentes, quas dominus dereliquit, ut erudiret in eis Israhelem, et haberent consuetudinem cum hostibus proeliandi, et iterum post pauca: dimisitque eos dominus, ut in ipsis experiretur Israhelem, utrum audiret mandata domini quae praeceperat patribus eorum per manum Moysi, an non. quam utique pugnam non inuidens deus quieti Israhelis nec male eidem consulens, sed sciens esse utilem reseruauit, ut dum gentium semper istarum inpugnatione deprimitur, numquam se sentiret auxilio domini non egere, et ob id semper in eius meditatione et inuocatione persistens nec inerti otio solueretur nec bellandi usum et exercitia uirtutis amitteret. frequenter enim, quos non potuerunt aduersa superare, securitas et prosperitas deiecerunt.
“So well did the blessed David know that this withdrawal, and so to speak desertion by God, of which we have spoken is useful, that he did not choose to pray not to be forsaken by God in anything at all (for he knew that this was not fitting either for himself or for human nature as it reaches toward any perfection); but rather he prayed that it might be moderated, saying: ‘Do not forsake me utterly’; as if he said in other words: ‘I know that you are accustomed to forsake your saints usefully, so as to test them; for otherwise they cannot be tempted by the adversary unless they have been forsaken by you for a little while. And therefore I do not ask that you never forsake me, because it is not good for me not to feel my weakness and say, “It is good for me that you have humbled me,” or not to have practice in fighting. This I certainly cannot have if the divine protection always clings to me without a break. For the devil will not dare to tempt me while I am propped up by your defence, casting up against me or you, and reproaching, what he is accustomed to say with slanderous voice against your athletes: “Does Job worship God for nothing? Have you not fenced him in, and his house, and all his substance round about?” But rather I ask that you do not forsake me utterly,’ which in Greek is heōs sphodra, that is, ‘to excess.’ ‘For as useful as it is to me that you forsake me a little, so that the constancy of my desire may be proved, so harmful it is if you allow me to be forsaken too much, according to my merits and sins. For no human strength, if it is long forsaken by your help in temptation, will be able to persevere by its own constancy and not at once give way to the power or scheming of the adversary; unless you yourself, who know human strength and govern the contests, do not allow us to be tempted beyond what we are able, but make with the temptation also a way out, that we may be able to bear it.’ We read something like this mystically signified in the book of Judges concerning the extermination of the spiritual nations that oppose Israel: ‘These are the nations which the Lord left, to train Israel by them, and that they might have practice in fighting with enemies’; and again a little later: ‘And the Lord left them, to test Israel by them, whether they would hear the commandments of the Lord which he had commanded their fathers by the hand of Moses, or not.’ God certainly kept back this battle not because he begrudged Israel peace or meant them ill, but because he knew it was useful: so that, while always pressed by the attack of these nations, they might never feel that they did not need the Lord's help, and so, remaining always in meditation on him and calling upon him, might neither be relaxed by idle ease nor lose the practice of fighting and the exercise of virtue. For security and prosperity have often cast down those whom adversity could not overcome.”
Ps 119:8 (118:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 119:71 (118:71 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Judg 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Judg 3:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Judg 3:4 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: David prayed not to be forsaken “utterly,” knowing that brief desertion by God is useful for humility and training, as God left the Canaanite nations to train Israel.
- Ps 119:8 (118:8 LXX, where ἕως σφόδρα means “to excess”); Ps 119:71 (118:71 LXX); Job 1:9–10; 1 Cor 10:13; Judg 3:1–2, 4.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and stray mark; OCR slips; OCR slips and stray marks; variant Greek letter forms in the digital text): exercitium + lon habeam proeliandi. quod sine dubio habere non potero. a mihi → exercitium non habeam proeliandi. quod sine dubio habere non potero, si mihi; solfultum → suffultum; nonne nallasti eam → nonne uallasti eum; ἕως σϕόδϱα → ἕως σφόδρα; anantum enim → quantum enim; deieoerunt.- → deiecerunt..
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.6 (CSEL 13:100–102; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.7CSEL 13:102–103
Hanc pugnam utiliter nostris quoque insertam membris etiam in apostolo ita legimus: caro enim concupiscit aduersus spiritum, spiritus uero aduersus carnem: haec autem inuicem aduersantur sibi, ut non quaecumque uultis illa faciatis. habes et hic pugnam inuisceratam quodammodo corpori nostro dispensatione domini procurante. quidquid enim generaliter et sine aliqua exceptione omnibus inest, quid aliud iudicari potest nisi ipsi humanae substantiae post ruinam primi hominis uelut naturaliter adtributum: et quod uniuersis congenitum concretumque deprehenditur, quomodo non credendum sit arbitrio domini non nocentis, sed consulentis insertum? causam uero huius belli, id est carnis et spiritus, hanc esse pronuntiat: ut non, inquit, quaecumque uultis illa faciatis. ergo id quod procurauit deus ut a nobis non possit impleri, id est ut non quaecumque uolumus illa faciamus, si inpleatur quid aliud credi potest esse quam noxium? et est quodammodo utilis haec pugna nobis dispensatione creatoris inserta et ad meliorem nos statum prouocans atque conpellens, qua sublata procul dubio pax e contrario perniciosa succederet.
“We read in the apostle that this battle too has been usefully placed in our members: ‘For the flesh lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh; for these are opposed to one another, so that you do not do whatever you will.’ Here too you have a battle rooted, as it were, in our body, arranged by the Lord's dispensation. For whatever is present in all generally and without any exception, what else can it be judged to be than something attributed as though by nature to human substance itself after the fall of the first man? And what is found to be born and grown together with all, how can it not be believed to have been placed there by the will of the Lord, who does not harm but takes counsel for our good? He declares the reason for this war, that is, of the flesh and the spirit, to be this: ‘so that,’ he says, ‘you do not do whatever you will.’ So what God has arranged so that it cannot be fulfilled by us, namely that we do not do whatever we will, what else can be believed than that it would be harmful if it were fulfilled? And this battle, placed in us by the Creator's dispensation, is in a way useful to us, calling and driving us to a better state; if it were taken away, a ruinous peace would without doubt follow in its place.”
Gal 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The war of flesh and spirit within us, common to all since the fall, is placed there by God for our good, so that we do not simply do whatever we will.
- Gal 5:17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): causam nero huius → causam uero huius; ut non, inquit, quaecnmque → ut non, inquit, quaecumque; id eet ut non → id est ut non.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.7 (CSEL 13:102–103; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.8CSEL 13:103
GERMANVS: Licet nobis quaedam intellectus linea iam praelucere uideatur, tamen quia necdum possumus apostoli sententiam ad liquidum peruidere, uolumus haec nobis apertius explanari. tres enim res hic indicari uidentur, prima carnis aduersus spiritum pugna, secunda spiritus aduersus carnem concupiscentia, tertia uoluntas nostra, quae uelut media conlocatur, de qua dicitur: ut non quaecumque uultis illa faciatis. super qua re licet ut dixi suspiciones quasdam ex his quae exposita sunt intellegentiae colligamus, uolumus tamen, quia se huius obtulit conlationis occasio, aliquid nobis lucidius disputari.
Germanus: “Although some line of understanding seems already to be shining ahead of us, yet since we cannot yet see the apostle's statement clearly, we want this explained to us more plainly. For three things seem to be indicated here: first, the fight of the flesh against the spirit; second, the desire of the spirit against the flesh; third, our will, which is placed as it were in the middle, of which it is said, ‘so that you do not do whatever you will.’ Although, as I said, we gather some notions of understanding from what has been set out, yet, since the occasion of this conference has presented itself, we would like something to be discussed for us more clearly.”
Gal 5:17 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Germanus asks Daniel to explain Gal 5:17 more clearly, distinguishing flesh, spirit, and will.
- Gal 5:17.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.8 (CSEL 13:103; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.9CSEL 13:103–104
DANIHEL: Discernere diuisiones et lineas quaestionum portio intellectus est, et maxima pars intellegentiae scire quid nescias. propter quod dicitur: insipienti interroganti sapientia reputabitur, quia licet is qui interrogat uim propositae quaestionis ignoret, tamen quia prudenter inquirit et intellegit quid non intellegat, hoc ipsum illi reputatur ad sapientiam, eo quod quid nesciret prudenter agnouerit. secundum diuisionem itaque uestram tres hoc loco res ab apostolo nominari uidentur, concupiscentia carnis aduersus spiritum et spiritus aduersus carnem, quarum aduersus se inuicem pugna hanc uidetur habere causam atque rationem, ut ea quae uolumus, inquit, facere nequeamus. quarta igitur superest causa quam minime uos uidistis, ut illud scilicet quod nolumus faciamus. nunc ergo opus est nobis, ut prius duarum concupiscentiarum uim, id est carnis et spiritus, agnoscamus, et ita demum quae uoluntas sit nostra, quae inter utraque posita est, discutere ualeamus, deinde quid possit uoluntatis nostrae non esse similiter discernamus.
Daniel: “To distinguish the divisions and lines of questions is a part of understanding, and the greatest part of intelligence is to know what you do not know. That is why it is said: ‘To a fool who asks, wisdom will be reckoned’; because, though the one who asks does not know the force of the question put forward, yet because he inquires prudently and understands what he does not understand, this very thing is reckoned to him as wisdom, since he has prudently recognized what he did not know. According to your division, then, three things seem to be named by the apostle in this place: the desire of the flesh against the spirit, and of the spirit against the flesh, whose fight against each other seems to have this cause and reason: that we cannot, he says, do what we will. There remains a fourth, which you did not see at all: that we do what we do not will. Now, then, we must first recognize the force of the two desires, that is, of the flesh and of the spirit, and so at last be able to discuss what our will is, which is placed between them both; then we must likewise distinguish what cannot be our will.”
Prov 17:28 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Daniel praises the question and adds a fourth element: that we do what we do not will; he will first explain flesh and spirit, then the will between them.
- Prov 17:28 (LXX form).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): quid neectas → quid nescias; dmisionem → diuisionem; concapiscentiarum → concupiscentiarum.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.9 (CSEL 13:103–104; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.10CSEL 13:104–105
Vocabulum carnis in scripturis sanctis multifarie legimus nominari. nam nonnumquam significat hominem integrum, id est qui ex corpore constat et anima, ut ibi: et uerbum caro factum est, et: uidebit omnis caro salutare dei nostri, nonnumquam homines peccatores atque carnales, ut ibi: non permanebit spiritus meus in hominibus istis, eo quod sint caro. interdum pro ipsis peccatis ponitur, ut ibi: uos autem non estis in carne sed in spiritu, et iterum: caro et sanguis regnum dei non possidebunt. denique sequitur: neque corruptio incorruptelam possidebit. nonnumquam pro agnatione et propinquitate, ut ibi: ecce nos os tuum et caro tua sumus, et apostolus: si quo modo in aemulationem inducam carnem meam et saluos faciam aliquos ex illis. quaerendum ergo nobis est, secundum quam significationem ex his quattuor carnem hic debeamus accipere. manifestum namque est secundum illud quod positum est: et uerbum caro factum est uel illud: et uidebit omnis caro salutare dei penitus stare non posse. sed neque secundum illud quod dicitur: non permanebit spiritus meus in hominibus istis, eo quod sint caro, quia non, sicut ibi abrupte de homine peccatore, ita et hic ponitur caro, cum dicit: caro concupiscit aduersus spiritum et spiritus aduersus carnem. neque enim de rebus substantialibus loquitur, sed de actualibus, quae in uno eodemque homine uel pariter uel singillatim cum quadam temporis uicissitudine et mutatione luctantur.
“We read the word ‘flesh’ used in many ways in the holy Scriptures. Sometimes it means the whole human being, that is, one who consists of body and soul, as there: ‘And the Word was made flesh,’ and: ‘All flesh shall see the salvation of our God.’ Sometimes it means sinful and fleshly men, as there: ‘My spirit shall not remain in these men, because they are flesh.’ Sometimes it is put for sins themselves, as there: ‘But you are not in the flesh but in the spirit’; and again: ‘Flesh and blood shall not possess the kingdom of God’; and then it follows: ‘nor shall corruption possess incorruption.’ Sometimes it is used for kinship and relationship, as there: ‘Behold, we are your bone and your flesh,’ and the apostle: ‘If by any means I may provoke to emulation my flesh and save some of them.’ We must ask, then, in which of these four meanings we ought to take ‘flesh’ here. For it is plain that it cannot at all stand in the sense of ‘And the Word was made flesh,’ or ‘And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.’ Nor in the sense of ‘My spirit shall not remain in these men, because they are flesh’; because ‘flesh’ is not put here, as it is there, absolutely of a sinful man, when he says: ‘The flesh lusts against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh.’ For he is speaking not of substances but of activities, which struggle in one and the same person, either together or one at a time, with a certain alternation and change over time.”
John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 40:5 (quotation, medium confidence) · Gen 6:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Sam 5:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 11:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Daniel distinguishes four scriptural senses of “flesh”: the whole person, sinful people, sins, and kinship; in Gal 5:17 it refers to activities, not substances.
- John 1:14; Luke 3:6 (Isa 40:5); Gen 6:3; Rom 8:9; 1 Cor 15:50; 2 Sam 5:1; Rom 11:14; Gal 5:17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; two words joined): qui ez corpore → qui ex corpore; interdam pro ipsis pecoatie ponitur → interdum pro ipsis peccatis ponitur; nos autem non estis → uos autem non estis; significationem ez his → significationem ex his; spiritumet → spiritum et.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.10 (CSEL 13:104–105; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.11CSEL 13:105–106
Quamobrem in hoc loco carnem non hominem, id est hominis substantiam, sed uoluntatem carnis et desideria pessima debemus accipere, sicut ne spiritum quidem aliquam rem substantialem, sed animae desideria bona et spiritalia designari. quem sensum idem beatus apostolus superius euidenter expressit ita incipiens: dico autem, spiritu ambulate, et desideria carnis non perficietis. caro enim concupiscit aduersus spiritum, spiritus uero aduersus carnem: haec autem inuicem aduersantur sibi, ut non quaecumque uultis illa faciatis. quae cum utraque, id est desideria carnis et spiritus in uno eodemque sint homine, intestinum cotidie intra nos geritur bellum, dum concupiscentia carnis, quae praecipitanter fertur ad uitia, his quae ad praesentem requiem pertinent deliciis gaudet. quibus e contra concupiscentia spiritus aduersata ita desiderat tota spiritalibus studiis inhaerere, ut etiam necessarios carnis usus optet excludere, sic illis iugiter cupiens occupari, ut nullam optaret fragilitati eius curam penitus inpertire. caro luxuriis ac libidine delectatur, spiritus ne ipsis quidem naturalibus desideriis adquiescit. illa cupit satiari somno, repleri cibo, hic ita uigiliis et ieiuniis saginatur, ut ne ad ipsum quidem necessarium uitae usum somnum cibumque uelit admittere. illa uniuersis exuberare copiis concupiscit, hic ne ipsius quidem exigui panis cotidianam substantiam habere contentus est. lauacris illa nitescere et cotidianis adulantium cuneis adpetit constipari, hic squalore sordium et inaccessibilis heremi uastitate congaudet cunctorumque mortalium praesentiam perhorrescit. honoribus illa et laudibus hominum confouetur, hic inrogatis sibi iniuriis ac persecutionibus gloriatur.
“Therefore in this place we should take ‘flesh’ to mean not the human being, that is, human substance, but the will of the flesh and its worst desires; just as ‘spirit’ does not designate any substance either, but the good and spiritual desires of the soul. The same blessed apostle plainly expressed this meaning just before, beginning thus: ‘But I say, walk by the spirit, and you will not fulfil the desires of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh; for these are opposed to one another, so that you do not do whatever you will.’ Since both of these, that is, the desires of the flesh and of the spirit, are in one and the same person, an internal war is waged within us every day. The desire of the flesh, which rushes headlong toward the vices, delights in the pleasures that belong to present ease; the desire of the spirit, opposing these, wishes so to cling wholly to spiritual pursuits that it would even exclude the necessary uses of the flesh, longing to be occupied with them so continually that it would wish to give no care at all to the flesh's frailty. The flesh delights in luxury and lust; the spirit does not assent even to natural desires. The one longs to be satisfied with sleep and filled with food; the other is so fattened on vigils and fasts that it would not admit sleep and food even for the necessary uses of life. The one desires to abound in every plenty; the other is not content to have even the daily supply of a little bread. The one seeks to shine from the baths and to be thronged every day by crowds of flatterers; the other rejoices in the squalor of dirt and the vastness of an inaccessible desert, and shudders at the presence of all mortals. The one is warmed by the honors and praises of men; the other glories in the injuries and persecutions inflicted on it.”
Gal 5:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 5:17 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In Gal 5:17 “flesh” and “spirit” mean contrary desires within one person, each pulling to an extreme: the flesh to comfort and pleasure, the spirit to limitless austerity.
- Gal 5:16–17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray full stop): quae eam utraque → quae cum utraque; caro luxuriis ae libidine → caro luxuriis ac libidine; cuneis adpetit. constipari → cuneis adpetit constipari.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.11 (CSEL 13:105–106; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.12CSEL 13:106–109
Inter has igitur utrasque concupiscentias animae uoluntas in meditullio quodam uituperabiliore consistens nec uitiorum flagitiis oblectatur nec uirtutum doloribus adquiescit, sic quaerens a passionibus temperare carnalibus, ut nequaquam uelit dolores necessarios sustinere, sine quibus desideria spiritus nequeunt possideri, absque castigatione carnis castimoniam corporis desiderans obtinere, sine uigiliarum labore cordis adquirere puritatem, cum requie carnis spiritalibus exuberare uirtutibus, absque ullius exasperatione conuicii patientiae gratiam possidere, humilitatem Christi sine honoris mundani exercere iactura, religionis simplicitatem cum saeculari ambitione sectari, Christo cum hominum laude ac fauore seruire, districtionem ueritatis sine cuiuspiam uel tenui offensione proferre: postremo sic mauult futura consequi bona, ut praesentia non amittat. quae uoluntas numquam nos ad perfectionem ueram faceret peruenire, sed in tepore quodam deterrimo conlocaret talesque faceret, quales illi sunt qui in Apocalypsi increpatione domini castigantur: scio opera tua, quia neque frigidus es neque calidus. utinam frigidus esses aut calidus. nunc autem tepidus es, et incipiam te euomere ex ore meo, nisi hunc tepidissimum statum altrinsecus haec insurgentia bella disrumperent. nam cum famulantes huic uoluntati nostrae ad hanc remissionem noluerimus nosmet ipsos paululum relaxare, confestim aculei carnis insurgunt suisque nos uitiis et passionibus sauciantes nequaquam in illa qua delectamur puritatis qualitate stare permittunt, atque ad illam quam horremus frigidam uoluptatum plenamque sentibus pertrahunt uiam. rursum si spiritus feruore succensi opera carnis uolentes extinguere sine ullo respectu fragilitatis humanae totos nosmet ipsos temptauerimus ad inmoderata uirtutum studia cordis elatione conferre, interpellans inbecillitas carnis ab illa reprehensibili nimietate spiritus reuocat ac retardat. et ita fit ut utraque concupiscentia tali conluctatione alterne sibimet repugnante animae uoluntas, quae nec totam se carnalibus desideriis dedere nec uirtutum uult laboribus desudare, quodammodo iusto moderamine temperetur, dum haec inter utraque contentio, illam perniciosiorem excludens animae uoluntatem, ut quandam aequitatis libram in statera nostri corporis conlocat, quae spiritus carnisque confinia iusto discernit examine, nec a dextris mentem spiritus ardore succensam nec a laeua carnem uitiorum aculeis praeponderare permittens. dumque haec pugna cotidianis diebus utiliter exagitatur in nobis, ad illud quartum quod nolumus salubriter uenire conpellimur, ut puritatem cordis non otio nec securitate, sed iugi sudore et contritione spiritus adquiramus castitatemque carnis districtis ieiuniis, fame, siti ac uigilantia retentemus, directionem etiam cordis lectione, uigiliis, oratione continua et solitudinis squalore capiamus, patientiam tribulationum exercitiis retentemus, cum blasphemiis et obprobriorum saturitate nostro seruiamus auctori, ueritatem cum inuidia mundi huius et inimicitiis, si necesse fuerit, exsequamur, et tali conluctatione in nostro corpore militante protractis nobis ab hac ignaua securitate atque ad istum quem nolumus laborem ac uirtutum studia prouocatis aequitas optime media retentetur, et tepidam nostrae uoluntatis arbitrium hinc spiritus feruor, illinc carnis gelidissimus rigor moderatissimo calore contemperent, ac neque ad effrenata uitia mentem pertrahi concupiscentia spiritus sinat nec rursus ad uirtutum inrationabiles adpetitus fragilitas carnis spiritum patiatur extolli, ne uel inde omnigenum pullulent fomites uitiorum uel hinc elatio morbi principalis emergens telo nos superbiae grauiore confodiat, sed horum pugnae aequilibratio iusta succedens sanam et moderatam inter utraque uirtutum reseret uiam, itinere regio docens militem Christi semper incedere. atque ita fiet, ut cum pro tepore huius quam diximus ignauissimae uoluntatis propensius mens ad desideria carnis fuerit deuoluta, spiritus concupiscentia refrenetur, nequaquam eo uitiis adquiescente terrenis, rursumque si inmoderato feruore per excessum cordis ad inpossibilia fuerit spiritus noster et inconsiderata praereptus, infirmitate carnis ad iustum retrahatur examen et transcendens uoluntatis nostrae tepidissimum statum commodissima temperie planoque tramite cum sudoris industria uiam perfectionis incedat. simile quid etiam in illius turris extructione legimus a domino dispensatum in libro Geneseos, ubi linguarum oborta repente confusio sacrilegos ausus hominum nefandosque conpescuit. permansisset enim etiam ibi aduersus deum, immo aduersus eos qui diuinam eius adtemptare coeperant maiestatem consensus noxius, nisi eos dispensatione dei repugnans inter se diuersitas linguae per dissonantiam uocis in meliorem statum proficere conpulisset, et quos ad excidium sui animauerat perniciosa consensio, ad salutem reuocasset bona utilisque discordia, incipientes scilicet humanam fragilitatem intercedente diuisione sentire, quam per noxiam conspirationem elati antea nesciebant.
“Between these two desires, then, the will of the soul stands in a more blameworthy middle ground. It neither delights in the crimes of the vices nor consents to the pains of the virtues. It seeks to refrain from fleshly passions in such a way as never to be willing to bear the necessary pains without which the desires of the spirit cannot be possessed: wishing to obtain chastity of body without chastising the flesh; to acquire purity of heart without the labor of vigils; to abound in spiritual virtues with the flesh at rest; to possess the grace of patience without being provoked by any insult; to practise the humility of Christ without loss of worldly honor; to pursue the simplicity of religion together with worldly ambition; to serve Christ with the praise and favor of men; to speak the strictness of truth without giving even slight offence to anyone; in short, it wishes to obtain the future goods in such a way as not to lose the present ones. This will would never bring us to true perfection, but would settle us in a most wretched lukewarmness and make us like those who are rebuked by the Lord in the Apocalypse: ‘I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot. But now you are lukewarm, and I will begin to spew you out of my mouth’ — unless these wars rising up on either side broke up this most lukewarm state. For when, serving this will of ours, we wish to relax ourselves a little into this slackness, at once the goads of the flesh rise up and, wounding us with their vices and passions, by no means allow us to remain in that quality of purity in which we delight, and drag us to that cold way of pleasures, full of thorns, which we dread. Again, if, burning with fervor of spirit and wishing to extinguish the works of the flesh, we try with pride of heart to give ourselves wholly to immoderate pursuits of virtue without any regard for human frailty, the weakness of the flesh intervenes and calls us back and holds us back from that blameworthy excess of the spirit. And so it happens that, as each desire fights the other alternately in such a struggle, the will of the soul, which neither wishes to give itself wholly to fleshly desires nor to toil at the labors of the virtues, is in a way tempered with just moderation. This contention between the two, excluding that more ruinous will of the soul, places, as it were, a just balance on the scales of our body, which marks off the boundaries of spirit and flesh with fair judgment, allowing neither the mind inflamed with the ardor of the spirit to outweigh on the right, nor the flesh with the goads of the vices on the left. And while this battle is usefully waged in us every day, we are driven, to our good, to that fourth thing which we do not will: to acquire purity of heart not by ease or security, but by constant sweat and contrition of spirit; to keep chastity of the flesh by strict fasts, hunger, thirst, and watchfulness; to gain direction of the heart by reading, vigils, continual prayer, and the squalor of solitude; to keep patience by the exercise of tribulations; to serve our Maker amid blasphemies and a surfeit of insults; to pursue the truth, if need be, amid the ill will and enmities of this world. And so, as such a struggle wages war in our body, and we are drawn away from that idle security and called to the labor and pursuits of virtue which we do not will, the best middle balance is kept. The fervor of the spirit on one side, and the coldest rigor of the flesh on the other, temper the lukewarm choice of our will with a most moderate warmth: the desire of the spirit does not allow the mind to be dragged into unbridled vices, nor does the frailty of the flesh allow the spirit to be carried up into unreasonable longings for virtue. So neither do the tinders of every kind of vice spring up from the one side, nor from the other does pride, the chief disease, emerge and pierce us with the heavier weapon of arrogance; but a just balance succeeding from their fight opens a sound and moderate way of virtues between them, teaching the soldier of Christ always to walk by the royal road. And so it will come about that when, through the lukewarmness of this most slothful will we have spoken of, the mind has been rolled down too readily toward the desires of the flesh, it is reined in by the desire of the spirit, which by no means consents to earthly vices; and again, if our spirit, through excess of heart, has been carried away with immoderate fervor to impossible and ill-considered things, it is drawn back to a just measure by the weakness of the flesh, and, rising above the most lukewarm state of our will, walks the way of perfection with the most suitable temperance, by a level path, and with the diligence of sweat. We read of something similar arranged by the Lord in the building of that tower in the book of Genesis, where the confusion of tongues that suddenly arose checked the sacrilegious and wicked daring of men. For there too a harmful agreement against God, indeed against themselves who had begun to assail his divine majesty, would have remained, had not the difference of language, opposing them among themselves by God's dispensation, compelled them by the discord of speech to advance to a better state; and good and useful discord recalled to salvation those whom ruinous agreement had spurred on to their own destruction, as they began, through the division that came between them, to feel the human frailty which, puffed up by their harmful conspiracy, they had not known before.”
Rev 3:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 3:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 11:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Num 21:22 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: Our lukewarm will wants virtue without pain; the opposing pulls of flesh and spirit check each other, forcing us into the laborious middle way of real virtue, as the confusion of tongues at Babel checked a harmful unity.
- Rev 3:15–16; Gen 11:1–9. The “royal road” echoes Num 21:22.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; stray mark): spiritnB → spiritus; dnmque haec pugna cotidianie → dumque haec pugna cotidianis; geiidissimus → gelidissimus; antea nesciebant., → antea nesciebant..
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.12 (CSEL 13:106–109; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.13CSEL 13:109
In tantum uero utilis nobis ex huius pugnae diuersitate cunctatio nascitur et salutaris ex hac concertatione dilatio, ut resistente soliditate corporea, dum ab eorum effectu quae nequiter mente concepimus retardamur, nonnumquam in meliorem statum seu paenitudine subsequente seu emendatione quadam, quae solet procrastinatione operis et recogitatione interueniente descendere, corrigamur. denique hos quos intellegimus ad uoluntatum suarum desideria perficienda nullo carnis obstaculo retardari, daemones scilicet ac spiritales nequitias, et quidem cum sint de eminentiore angelorum ordine deuoluti, detestabiliores esse hominibus contemplamur, eo quod possibilitate eorum desideriis adiacente id quod nequiter semel conceperint inreuocabili malo perficere non morentur, quia sicut est animus eorum uelox ad excogitandum, sic ad perficiendum pernix et absoluta substantia, dumque subpeditat eis prona facilitas ea quae uoluerint peragendi, conceptum malum nulla intercedens deliberatio salutaris emendat.
“So useful to us is the delay that arises from the opposition of this battle, and so wholesome the postponement produced by this contest, that, as the solidity of the body resists and we are held back from carrying out what we have wickedly conceived in the mind, we are sometimes corrected into a better state, either by repentance that follows or by some amendment which usually comes from putting off the deed and thinking again. Indeed, we see that those whom we know are not held back by any obstacle of flesh from carrying out the desires of their wills, namely the demons and spiritual wickednesses, although they have fallen from a higher order of angels, are more detestable than men, because, the power to act lying close to their desires, they do not delay to carry out with incorrigible malice what they have once wickedly conceived. For as their mind is swift to devise, so their substance is quick and unhindered to accomplish; and since a ready facility of doing whatever they wish is at hand, no wholesome deliberation comes between to correct the evil conceived.”
Eph 6:12 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: The resistance of the body delays our evil intentions and often allows repentance; demons, having no flesh, act at once on their malice and so are worse than men.
- Eph 6:12 is echoed in “spiritual wickednesses”.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): inrenooabili → inreuocabili; quia sient est → quia sicut est.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.13 (CSEL 13:109; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.14CSEL 13:109–110
Spiritalis namque substantia nec ulla carnis soliditate deuincta ut excusationem exortae in sese prauae non recipit uoluntatis, ita ueniam malignitatis excludit, quia nulla quemadmodum nos ad peccandum inpugnatione carnis extrinsecus lacessita est, sed uitio solius malae uoluntatis accensa. et ob hoc sine uenia peccatum et languor sine remedio est. sicut enim nulla terrena sollicitante materia conruit, ita ne indulgentiam quidem aut locum potest paenitudinis obtinere. quibus ex rebus euidenter colligitur, quod non solum noxia non sit haec quae contra se inuicem suscitatur in nobis carnis spiritusque contentio, uerum etiam multam nobis conferat utilitatem.
“For a spiritual substance, not bound by any solidity of flesh, just as it admits no excuse for an evil will arising in it, so it excludes pardon for its malice, because it was not, as we are, provoked to sin from outside by the assault of the flesh, but was inflamed only by the fault of an evil will. And for this reason its sin is without pardon and its sickness without remedy. For just as it fell with no earthly matter enticing it, so it cannot obtain indulgence or a place for repentance. From these things it is clearly gathered that this contention of flesh and spirit stirred up against each other in us is not only not harmful but even brings us much benefit.”
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Summary: Because spirits sin from pure malice without the pull of flesh, their sin has no pardon; so the struggle of flesh and spirit in us is actually beneficial.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): prauae non recipit noluntatis → prauae non recipit uoluntatis; sient enim nulla → sicut enim nulla.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.14 (CSEL 13:109–110; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.15CSEL 13:110–111
Primo quod desidias ac neglegentias nostras statim arguit et ut quidam diligentissimus paedagogus a districtionis et disciplinae linea numquam nos deuiare concedens, si paululum quid securitas nostra mensuram congruae serietatis excesserit, flagellis incentiuorum stimulat confestim et increpat atque ad conpetentem reuocat parcitatem. secundo quod pro castimoniae ac puritatis integritate, cum dei gratia concedente ita nos longo tempore genitali pollutione uiderimus inmunes, ut ne ipsa quidem simplici conmotione carnis ulterius nos inquietandos esse credamus et per hoc, uelut qui non gestemus corruptelam carnis, in secretis conscientiae nostrae fuerimus elati, suo nos rursum quamuis quieto ac simplici uisitans fluxu humiliat ac retundit nosque homines esse stimulis suis admonet. quodammodo enim, cum in ceteris generibus uitiorum et quidem grauioribus magisque noxiis indifferentius soleamus incurrere nec tam facile in eorum conpungamur admissu, in hoc peculiarius humiliatur conscientia nostra perque hanc inlusionem neglectarum quoque passionum recordatione mordetur, euidenter intellegens inmundam se factam naturalibus incentiuis, quae cum esset inmundior spiritalibus uitiis ignorabat, et recurrens protinus ad emendationem anterioris ignauiae commonetur pariter nec super successibus praeteritae puritatis debere confidere, quam se perspicit pusillum quid declinantem a domino perdidisse, nec posse huius purificationis donum nisi per solius dei gratiam possideri, docentibus nos quodammodo ipsius rei experimentis, ut si integritatem cordis perpetuo consequi delectamur, humilitatis studeamus uirtutem iugiter obtinere.
“First, because it rebukes our sloth and negligence at once, and like a most diligent tutor never allows us to stray from the line of strictness and discipline: if our security exceeds even a little the measure of fitting seriousness, it immediately goads and rebukes us with the scourges of its incitements and calls us back to proper frugality. Second, as regards the integrity of chastity and purity: when, by the gift of God's grace, we have seen ourselves free for a long time from genital pollution, so that we believe we shall no longer be troubled even by a simple movement of the flesh, and for that reason, as though we no longer bore the corruption of the flesh, we have become puffed up in the secret of our conscience, it visits us again with its flow, though quiet and simple, humbles and checks us, and reminds us by its goads that we are human. For whereas we tend to fall rather indifferently into other kinds of vices, even graver and more harmful ones, and are not so easily pierced with compunction when we commit them, in this our conscience is humbled in a special way. Through this illusion it is stung by the memory of neglected passions too, clearly understanding that it has been made unclean by natural incitements, while it did not know that it was more unclean through spiritual vices; and running back at once to amend its former sloth, it is warned at the same time neither to trust in the successes of past purity, which it sees it has lost by turning a little away from the Lord, nor to think that this gift of purification can be possessed except through the grace of God alone. The very experience of the thing teaches us, as it were, that if we delight to attain integrity of heart permanently, we must strive to keep the virtue of humility constantly.”
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Summary: The struggle of the flesh benefits us by rebuking slackness and, through involuntary nocturnal emissions after long purity, by humbling our pride and teaching that purity is God's gift.
- “Illusion” (inlusio) is the monastic term for a nocturnal emission.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): uitiomm → uitiorum; ipsius rei experimentis, at si → ipsius rei experimentis, ut si.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.15 (CSEL 13:110–111; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.16CSEL 13:111
Huius igitur puritatis elationem perniciosiorem futuram cunctis sceleribus atque flagitiis et ob hanc nihil nos emolumenti consecuturos pro qualibet castitatis integritate testes sunt illae uirtutes quarum superius fecimus mentionem, quae cum nullas huiusmodi titillationes carnis habuisse credantur, ob solam cordis elationem perpetua ruina de illa sublimi caelestique statione deiectae sunt. essemus itaque penitus absque remedio tepidi, utpote non habentes indicem neglegentiae nostrae uel in corpore nostro uel in conscientiis propriis insidentem, nec studeremus ad perfectionis umquam peruenire feruorem, sed ne frugalitatis quidem districtionem uel continentiae teneremus, nisi nos haec titillatio carnis increscens humiliaret atque retunderet et aduersus spiritalium quoque uitiorum purgationem sollicitos redderet et intentos.
“That pride in this purity would be more ruinous than all crimes and sins, and that because of it we should gain no profit from any integrity of chastity, those powers we mentioned above are witnesses. Though they are not believed to have had any such ticklings of the flesh, they were cast down with everlasting ruin from that lofty and heavenly station for pride of heart alone. We should therefore be lukewarm, wholly without remedy, having no indicator of our negligence seated either in our body or in our own conscience; we should never strive to reach the fervor of perfection, nor even keep the strictness of frugality or self-control, unless this growing tickling of the flesh humbled and checked us, and made us careful and intent on the cleansing of spiritual vices as well.”
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Summary: The fallen angels, who had no flesh, fell by pride alone; the goad of the flesh keeps us humble and watchful against spiritual vices.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.16 (CSEL 13:111; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.17CSEL 13:111–112
Denique in his qui spadones sunt corpore idcirco hunc animi teporem plerumque inesse deprehendimus, quia uelut absoluti ab hac necessitate carnali nec labore continentiae corporalis nec contritione cordis se existimant indigere, et hac securitate resoluti numquam perfectionem cordis, sed ne spiritalium quidem uitiorum purgationem uel quaerere in ueritate uel possidere festinant. qui status a carnali qualitate discedens efficitur animalis, qui est procul dubio deterior gradus. ipse est enim qui de frigido ad tepidum transiens detestabilior domini uoce signatur.
“Indeed, we find that this lukewarmness of mind is generally present in those who are eunuchs in body for this reason: as though set free from this fleshly necessity, they think they need neither the labor of bodily self-control nor contrition of heart; and, made slack by this security, they never truly seek or hasten to possess perfection of heart, nor even the cleansing of spiritual vices. This state, departing from the fleshly condition, becomes ‘soulish’ (animal), which is without doubt a worse degree. For it is the one which, passing from cold to lukewarm, is marked by the Lord's voice as more detestable.”
Rev 3:16 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Eunuchs often grow lukewarm, thinking themselves free of the struggle; this “soulish” state is worse than the fleshly one.
- animalis (Greek ψυχικός, 1 Cor 2:14): “soulish” or “natural”, the state between fleshly and spiritual; see 4.19. Rev 3:15–16.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.17 (CSEL 13:111–112; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.18CSEL 13:112
GERMANVS: De utilitate conluctationis quae inter carnem ac spiritum suscitatur, quantum uidetur nobis, euidenter expressum est, ita ut eam ipsis quodammodo manibus nostris palpabilem factam esse credamus. et idcirco hanc quoque rationem nobis similiter cupimus aperiri, quid intersit inter carnalem et animalem uirum uel quemadmodum animalis carnali possit esse deterior.
Germanus: “The usefulness of the struggle stirred up between flesh and spirit has, it seems to us, been clearly expressed, so that we believe it has been made palpable to our very hands. And therefore we wish that this point too may likewise be opened to us: what the difference is between the fleshly and the soulish man, or how the soulish man can be worse than the fleshly.”
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Summary: Germanus asks how the “soulish” person differs from, and is worse than, the fleshly one.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): palpabiiem → palpabilem.
Cite (SBL): Cassian, Conf. 4.18 (CSEL 13:112; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/cassian-conferences/3-20/#p-4-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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