Tractates on the Gospel of John 71.1–73.4
Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).
Chapter 71
71.1PL 35:1819
Audite auribus, accipite mentibus, dilectissimi, loquentibus quidem nobis, sed ipso docente qui non recedit a nobis. Dominus dicit, quod modo cum lege retur audistis, Verba quæ ego loquor vobis, a meipso non loquor: Pater autem in me manens ipse facit opera. Ergo et verba opera sunt? Plane ita est. Nam profecto qui proximum loquendo aedificat, bonum opus ope ratur. Sed quid est, a meipso non loquor, nisi, a meipso non sum qui loquor? Ei quippe tribuit quod facit, de quo est ipse qui facit. Pater enim Deus non est de ali quo, Filius autem Deus est quidem Patri æqualis, sed de Patre Deo. Ideo ille Deus, sed non de Deo; et lu men, sed non de lumine: iste vero Deus de Deo, lu men de lumine.
Hear with your ears, take in with your minds, beloved: we are the ones speaking, but he is teaching who does not withdraw from us. The Lord says, as you heard just now when it was read: "The words that I speak to you I do not speak from myself; but the Father who abides in me, he does the works." So words too are works? Plainly so. For surely one who builds up his neighbor by speaking does a good work. But what is "I do not speak from myself," except "I who speak am not from myself"? For he attributes what he does to him from whom he himself, who does it, is. For God the Father is not from anyone; but the Son is God, equal to the Father indeed, yet from God the Father. So the Father is God, but not from God, and light, but not from light; the Son is God from God, light from light.
John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: "I do not speak from myself" means that the Son, equal to the Father, is from the Father: God from God, light from light.
- John 14:10 is quoted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): non toquor → non loquor; enini → enim.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 71.1 (PL 35:1819; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-71-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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71.2PL 35:1819–1821
Nam in his duabus sententiis, una qua dictum est, Non a meipso loquor: alia qua dictum est, Pater autem in me manens, ipse facit opera: singulas tenen tes, diversi nobis adversantur haeretici, qui non ex una parte, sed in contraria conantes, a via veritatis exorbitant. Ariani quippe dicunt: Ecce inaequalis est Patri Filius, a seipso non loquitur. Dicunt Sabelliani contra, id est Patripassiani: Ecce qui Pater est ipse et Filius; quid enim est, Pater in me manens, ipse facit opera, nisi, in me maneo ego qui facio? Contraria dicitis: sed non eo modo sicut est falsum contrarium vero, sed sicut sunt inter se duo falsa contraria. Er rando in diversa istis, in medio est via quam reliqui stis. Inter vos ipsos longiore intervallo separati estis, quam ab ipsa via cujus desertores estis. Vos hinc, vos autem illinc, huc venite: alteri ad alteros transire nolite, sed hinc atque illinc ad nos veniendo, invicem vos invenite. Sabelliani, agnoscite quem præ termittitis; Ariani, aequalem quem subditis, et in via vera nobiscum ambulabitis. Est enim quod invicem ex vobis alteri ex alteris admoneri utrique debeatis. Audi, sabelliane: usque ad eo non ipse Pater, sed al ter est Filius, ut eum arianus inæqualem asserat Patri. Audi, ariane: usque adeo Filius aequalis est Patri, ut sabellianus eumdem esse dicat et Patrem. Tu adde quem tollis, tu adimple quem minuis, et nobiscum ambo consistetis: quia nec tu tollis, nec tu minuis eum qui et alter est a Patre, ut convincas sabellia num, et æqualis Patri, ut convincas arianum. Utrisque enim clamat, Ego et Pater unum sumus. Quod ait, unum, audiant Ariani; quod ait, sumus, au diant Sabelliani: et nec illi æqualem, nec illi alterum negando sint vani. Si ergo quoniam dixit, Verba quæ ego loquor vobis, a meipso non loquor, propterea puta tur usque adeo imparis potestatis, ut non quod ipse vult faciat; audiatur quod dixit, Sicut Pater suscitat mortuos et vivificat, sic et Filius quos vult vivificat. Item si quoniam dixit, Pater in me manens, ipse facit opera, propterea putatur non alius esse Pater, alius ipse; audiatur quod dixit, Quascumque Pater facit, hæc et Filius similiter facit; et intelligatur non bis unus, sed duo unum. Verum quia sic æqualis alter alteri, ut tamen alter ex altero, ideo non loqui tur a semetipso, quia non est a seipso: et ideo Pater in illo manens facit opera ipse, quia per quem et cum quo facit, non est nisi ab ipso. Denique adjungit, et dicit: Non creditis quia ego in Patre, et Pater in me est? Alioquin propter opera ipsa credite. Antea solus Philippus arguebatur, nunc autem non ibi eum solum fuisse qui esset arguendus ostenditur. Propter opera, inquit, ipsa credite quia ego in Patre, et Pater in me est: neque enim si separati essemus, inseparabiliter operari ulla ratione possemus.
For different heretics oppose us, each holding on to one of these two statements, the one where it was said, "I do not speak from myself," the other where it was said, "But the Father who abides in me, he does the works"; striving not in one direction but in contrary directions, they wander off the road of truth. The Arians say: "See, the Son is unequal to the Father; he does not speak from himself." The Sabellians, that is, the Patripassians, say on the contrary: "See, the one who is the Father is himself also the Son; for what does 'The Father who abides in me, he does the works' mean, but 'I abide in myself, I who do them'?" You say contrary things, but not in the way a falsehood is contrary to the truth; rather as two falsehoods are contrary to each other. By straying in opposite directions you have left the road that lies in the middle. You are separated from each other by a longer distance than from the road itself, which you have deserted. You from this side, and you from that, come here: do not cross over to each other, but by coming to us from this side and that, find each other. Sabellians, acknowledge the one you pass over; Arians, acknowledge as equal the one you subordinate; and you will walk with us on the true road. For there is something of which each of you ought to be reminded by the other. Listen, Sabellian: the Son is so far from being the Father himself, and so truly another, that the Arian asserts he is unequal to the Father. Listen, Arian: the Son is so truly equal to the Father that the Sabellian says he is the same as the Father. You, add back the one you take away; you, make complete the one you diminish; and you will both stand with us. For neither may you take away, nor you diminish, him who is both other than the Father, to refute the Sabellian, and equal to the Father, to refute the Arian. For he cries out to both: "I and the Father are one." Let the Arians hear "one"; let the Sabellians hear "are"; and let neither the one group, by denying the equal, nor the other, by denying the other, be vain. If then, because he said, "The words that I speak to you I do not speak from myself," he is thought to be of such unequal power that he does not do what he wills, let what he said be heard: "As the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will." Again, if because he said, "The Father who abides in me, he does the works," it is thought that the Father is not one and he another, let what he said be heard: "Whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does likewise"; and let it be understood that they are not one twice over, but two who are one. But because they are so equal to each other that yet the one is from the other, therefore he does not speak from himself, because he is not from himself; and therefore the Father abiding in him himself does the works, because the one through whom and with whom he does them is from no one but him. Finally he adds and says: "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? Otherwise believe because of the works themselves." Before, Philip alone was rebuked; but now it is shown that he was not the only one there who needed rebuke. "Because of the works themselves," he says, "believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me": for if we were separated, we could in no way work inseparably.
John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:11 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Against both Arians, who make the Son unequal, and Sabellians, who make him the Father, Augustine holds that the Son is other than the Father yet equal to him, from him and inseparable from him.
- John 14:10, 10:30, 5:21, 5:19, and 14:10–11 are quoted. Augustine's arguments against the Arians and Sabellians (Patripassians) are translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; missing stop; stray mark): (acit opera → facit opera; stis ł. → stis.; qnam ab ipsa → quam ab ipsa; termillitis; Ariant, aequale → termittitis; Ariani, aequalem; via vcra nobisc lm anibulabitis → via vera nobiscum ambulabitis; eonsistilis → consistetis; ct aller est → et alter est; altorum → alterum; Verba quas ego → Verba quæ ego; vivificat Item → vivificat. Item; manent, ipse fucji opera → manens, ipse facit opera; aliu.4 ipse → alius ipse; aqualis → æqualis; Parer in me → Pater in me.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 71.2 (PL 35:1819–1821; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-71-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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71.3PL 35:1821
Sed quid est quod sequitur, « Amen, amen dico vobis, qui credit in me, opera quae ego facio, et ipse faciet, et majora horum faciet; quia ego ad Patrem vado: et quæcumque petieritis in nomine meo, hæc faciam. Ut glorificetur Pater in Filio, si quid petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam. > Ergo et illa majora opera seipsum facturum esse promisit. Non se extollat servus supra Dominum, et discipulus supra magi strum: majora quam ipse facit, dicit eos esse facturos; sed in eis vel per eos se faciente, non ipsis tanquam ex seipsis, Ei quippe cantatur, Diligam te, Domine, virtus mea. Sed quæ sunt tandem ista majora? An forte quod ægros ipsis trans euntibus, etiam eorum umbra sanabat? Majus est enim ut sanet umbra quam fimbria. Illud per se, hoc per ipsos; sed tamen utrumque ipse. Verumtamen quando ista dicebat, ver borum suorum opera commendabat: sic enim dixe rat, Verba quæ ego loquor vobis, a meipso non loquor; Pater autem in me manens, ipse facit opera. Quae opera tunc dicebat, nisi verba quæ loquebatur? Audiebant et credebant illi, et eorumdem verborum fructus erat fides illorum: verumtamen evangelizantibus discipu lis, non tam pauci quam illi erant, sed gentes etiam crediderunt; hæc sunt sine dubitatione majora. Nec tamen ait, Majora horum facietis, ut solos Apostolos ea putaremus esse facturos; sed, Qui credit in me, in quit, opera quæ ego facio, et ipse faciet, et majora ho. rurn faciet. Itane quicumque credit in Christum, facit quæ Christus, vel majora quam Christus? Non præter eunter ista tractanda sunt, nec debent festinatione præcipitari; sed ea cogit concludendus jam sermo iste differri.
But what is it that follows? "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do, and he will do greater than these, because I am going to the Father; and whatever you ask in my name, I will do it, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything in my name, I will do it." So he promised that he himself would do those greater works too. Let not the servant exalt himself above his Lord, or the disciple above his master: he says they will do greater things than he does, but with himself doing them in them or through them, not with them doing them as of themselves. For to him it is sung: "I will love you, O Lord, my strength." But what, after all, are these greater things? Is it perhaps that, as the apostles passed by, even their shadow healed the sick? For it is greater for a shadow to heal than for the fringe of a garment. That he did by himself, this through them; yet he did both. But when he said these things, he was commending the works of his words; for he had said: "The words that I speak to you I do not speak from myself; but the Father who abides in me, he does the works." What works did he then mean but the words he was speaking? They heard and believed, and the fruit of those same words was their faith; yet when the disciples preached the gospel, not just a few, as they were, but even nations believed: these are without doubt greater. Yet he did not say, "You will do greater things than these," so that we would think only the apostles would do them; but "Whoever believes in me," he says, "will also do the works that I do, and he will do greater than these." Does everyone who believes in Christ, then, do what Christ did, or greater things than Christ? These things must not be treated in passing, nor rushed in haste; but the need to close this sermon now forces us to put them off.
John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 10:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 18:1 (17:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 5:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 9:20 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The greater works the disciples would do, such as healing by their shadow and converting nations, are done by Christ through them.
- John 14:12–14, 14:10, and Ps 18:1 (LXX 17:2) are quoted; Matt 10:24, Acts 5:15, and Matt 9:20–21 are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words); OCR slip (quotation mark)): c Amen → « Amen; faciet,et majora horum taciet → faciet, et majora horum faciet; pelieriLis → petieritis; eliam eorum → etiam eorum; Poter autem → Pater autem; clediderunt → crediderunt; Nee tamen ait, Majora honim → Nec tamen ait, Majora horum; quæChristus → quæ Christus; nee debent → nec debent.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 71.3 (PL 35:1821; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-71-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 72
72.1PL 35:1821–1823
Quid sibi velit, et quomodo accipiendum sit quod Dominus ait, Qui credit in me, opera quæ ego facio, et ipse faciet, non est facile comprehendere: et cum hoc ad intelligendum difficillimum sit, adjecit aliud diffi cilius, Et majora horum faciet. Quid est hoc? Qui fa ceret opera quæ Christus fecit, non inveniebamus; qui etiam majora faciet, inventuri sumus? Sed dixera. mus sermone pristino quia majus fuit umbrae suæ transitu, quod discipuli fecerunt, quam fimbriæ suæ tactu, quod ipse Dominus fecit, sanare languentes; et quia plures Apostolis, quam ipso per os proprium praedicante Domino cre diderunt: ut hæc viderentur opera intelligenda esse majora: non quo major esset Magistro discipulus, vel Domino servus, vel adoptatus Unigenito, vel homo Deo; sed quod per illos ipse dignaretur eadem majo ra facere, qui dicit illis alio loco, Sine me nihil potestis facere. Ipse quippe, ut alia omittam, quae sunt innumerabilia, sine ipsis fecit eos, sine ipsis fecit hunc mundum; et quia homo etiam ipse fieri dignatus est, sine ipsis fecit et seipsum. Quid autem illi sine ipso, nisi peccatum? Denique et hic id quod de hac re poterat nos movere, mox abstulit: cum enim di xisset, Qui credit in me, opera quæ ego facio, et ipse faciet, et majora horum faciet; continuo secutus adjun xit, Quia ego ad Patrem vado, et quascumque petieritis, in nomine meo, hæc faciam. Qui dixerat faciet, post ait faciam; tanquam diceret, Non vobis impossibile hoc videatur: non enim poterit esse major me qui credit in me, sed ego facturus sum et tunc majora quam nunc; majora per eum qui credit in me, quam præter eum per me: ego tamen ipse præter eum, ego ipse per eum: sed quando praeter eum, non faciet ipse; quando autem per eum, quamvis non per semetipsum, faciet et ipse. Porro autem majora facere per eum quam præter eum, non est defectio, sed dignatio. Quid enim retribuant servi Domino, pro omnibus quæ retribuit eis? Quandoquidem inter cæ tera bona etiam hoc eis donare dignatus est, ut ma jora faceret per illos quam præter illos. Nonne ab ore illius dives ille tristis abscessit, quando vitæ æternæ consilium quæsivit? Audivit, ab jecit: et tamen postea quod ab illo auditum non fecit unus, fecerunt multi, cum loqueretur per discipulos magister bonus; contemptibilis ei quem divitem per seipsum monuit, amabilis eis quos ex divitibus pau peres per pauperes fecit. Ecce majora fecit praedica tus a credentibus, quam locutus audientibus.
What the Lord's words mean, "Whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do," and how they are to be taken, is not easy to comprehend; and since this is very hard to understand, he added something harder: "And he will do greater than these." What is this? We could not find anyone who would do the works Christ did; are we going to find one who will even do greater? But we had said in the previous sermon that it was greater to heal the sick by the passing of one's shadow, which the disciples did, than by the touch of the fringe, which the Lord himself did; and that more believed when the apostles preached than when the Lord preached with his own mouth; so that these seem to be the works to be understood as greater: not that the disciple was greater than the master, or the servant than the Lord, or the adopted than the Only-begotten, or man than God, but that he deigned to do these same greater things through them, he who says to them in another place, "Without me you can do nothing." For he himself, to omit other things, which are innumerable, made them without them, made this world without them; and because he deigned to become man himself, he made even himself without them. But what did they do without him, except sin? Finally, here too he soon removed what could have troubled us on this matter: for when he had said, "Whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do, and he will do greater than these," he went on at once to add, "Because I am going to the Father, and whatever you ask in my name, I will do it." He who had said "he will do" afterwards says "I will do," as if he said: Do not let this seem impossible to you; for he who believes in me cannot be greater than I, but it is I who will do it, and greater things then than now; greater things through him who believes in me than apart from him through myself. Yet it is I myself apart from him, and I myself through him; but when it is apart from him, he will not do it; when it is through him, though not through himself, he too will do it. Moreover, to do greater things through him than apart from him is not a failing but a condescension. For what can servants give back to the Lord for all that he has given them? For among other good things he deigned to grant them this as well, that he would do greater things through them than apart from them. Did not that rich man go away sad from his very mouth, when he sought counsel about eternal life? He heard, he rejected; and yet afterward what one man heard from him and did not do, many did, when the good master spoke through his disciples: despised by the rich man whom he warned in person, loved by those whom he made poor from rich through the poor. See, he did greater things when preached by believers than when he spoke to hearers.
John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 5:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 9:20 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 10:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 15:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 116:12 (115:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 19:22 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Christ does greater works through believers than he did apart from them, not from any lack in himself but by condescension.
- John 14:12–13, John 15:5, and Ps 116:12 (LXX 115:3) are quoted; Acts 5:15, Matt 9:20, Matt 10:24, and the rich young man (Matt 19:16–22) are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): eliam majora → etiam majora; tiansitu → transitu; suue tactu → suæ tactu; esso majora → esse majora; seculus → secutus; poteris esse major → poterit esse major; præter cumper me → præter eum per me; per cum, quamvis → per eum, quamvis; pra ter illos → præter illos; uon fecit → non fecit; contemptibilis ci quem → contemptibilis ei quem.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 72.1 (PL 35:1821–1823; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-72-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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72.2PL 35:1823
Verum hoc adhuc movet, quod hæc majora per Apostolos fecit: non autem ipsos tantum significans ait, Opera quæ ego facio et vos facietis, et majora ho. rum facietis: sed omnes ad suam familiam pertinen- • tes intelligi volens, Qui credit in me, inquit, opera quæ ego facio, et ipse faciet, et majora horum faciet. Si ergo qui credit faciet, non credit utique qui non fa. ciet: sicuti est, Qui diligit me, mandata mea custodit; unde profecto qui non custodit, non diligit. Item alio loco, Qui audit, inquit, verba mea hæc et facit ea, similabo eum viro prudenti qui ædificat domum suam supra petram: qui ergo non est similis huic viro prudenti, procul dubio aut verba hæc audit et non facit, aut omnino nec audit. Qui credit, inquit, in me, licet moriatur, vivet: qui ergo non vivet, non utique credit. Tale etiam hoc est, Qui credit in me, faciet: non utique credit qui non faciet. Quid est hoc, fra tres? Numquid inter credentes in Christum non est computandus, qui non fecerit opera majora quam Christus? Durum est, absurdum est, ferri non potest: non toleratur nisi intelligatur. Apostolum igitur au diamus: Credenti, inquit, in eum qui justificat impium, deputatur fides ejus ad justitiam. In hoc opere faciamus opera Christi, quia et ipsum credere in Christum, opus est Christi. Hoc operatur in nobis, non utique sine nobis. Audi ergo jam, et intellige, Qui credit in me, opera quæ ego facio, et ipse faciet: prius ego facio, deinde et ipse faciet; quia facio ut faciat. Quæ opera, nisi ut ex impio justus fiat?
But this still troubles us, that he did these greater things through the apostles; yet he did not say, meaning only them, "You will do the works that I do, and you will do greater than these," but, wishing all who belong to his household to be understood, he says, "Whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do, and he will do greater than these." If then whoever believes will do them, certainly whoever will not do them does not believe; just as it is: "Whoever loves me keeps my commandments"; from which surely whoever does not keep them does not love. Again in another place he says, "Whoever hears these words of mine and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who builds his house upon the rock"; whoever, then, is not like this wise man beyond doubt either hears these words and does not do them, or does not hear them at all. "Whoever believes in me," he says, "though he die, shall live"; whoever, then, will not live certainly does not believe. Such too is this: "Whoever believes in me will do"; certainly he does not believe who will not do. What is this, brothers? Is he not to be counted among believers in Christ who has not done greater works than Christ? It is harsh, it is absurd, it cannot be borne: it is not tolerable unless it is understood. Let us hear the Apostle, then: "To one who believes in him who justifies the ungodly," he says, "his faith is counted as righteousness." In this work let us do the works of Christ, because even believing in Christ is itself a work of Christ. This he works in us, though certainly not without us. Hear now, then, and understand: "Whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do": first I do, then he too will do; because I do so that he may do. What works, but that from ungodly he becomes righteous?
John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 11:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:29 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Since every believer is said to do Christ's works, those works must be the justification of the ungodly, which Christ works in us but not without us.
- John 14:12, 14:21, Matt 7:24, John 11:25, and Rom 4:5 are quoted; John 6:29 is in view. The teaching on justification is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): custodit.; → custodit;; opera quas ego → opera quæ ego; pmdenti → prudenti; nee audit → nec audit; uliquo credit → utique credit; justus liat → justus fiat.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 72.2 (PL 35:1823; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-72-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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72.3PL 35:1823
Et majora horum faciet. Quorum, obsecro? Num quidnam omnium operum Christi majora facit, qui cum timore et tremore suam ipsius salutem operatur? Quod utique in illo, sed non sine illo Christus operatur. Prorsus majus hoc esse dixe rim, quam est caelum et terra, et quaecumque cer nuntur in coelo et in terra. Et cælum enim et terra transibit; praedestinatorum autem, id est eorum quos præscit, salus et justificatio permanebit. In illis tantum operi Dei, in his autem etiam est imago Dei. Sed et in coelis, Sedes, Dominationes, Principatus, Potestates, Archangeli, Angeli opera sunt Christi; numquid etiam his operibus majora facit, qui operante in se Christo, cooperatur aeternam salutem ac justificationem suam? Non hic audeo praecipitare sententiam: intelligat qui potest, judicet qui potest, utrum majus sit justos creare quam impios justificare. Certe enim si æqualis est utrumque potentiæ, hoc ma joris est misericordiæ. Hoc est enim magnum pietatis sacramentum, quod manifestatum est in carne, justifica tum est in Spiritu, apparuit Angelis, prædicatum est in gentibus, creditum est in mundo, assumptum est in glo ria. Sed omnia opera Christi intelli gere ubi ait, Majora horum faciet, nulla nos necessi tas cogit. Horum enim forsitan dixit, quæ in illa hora faciebat: tunc autem verba fidei faciebat, et de his ope. ribus fuerat prælocutus dicens, Verba quæ ego loquor vobis, a meipso non loquor: Pater autem in me manens, ipse facit opera. Tunc igitur verba ejus erant opera ejus. Et utique minus est verba justitiæ prædicare, quod fecit praeter nos, quam impios justificare, quod ita facit in nobis, ut faciamus et nos. Restat inquirere quomodo accipiendum sit, Quodcumque petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam. Propter multa enim quae pe tunt fideles ejus, nec accipiunt, non parva hinc exo ritur quaestio: sed quoniam sermo iste jam clauden dus est, ei considerandae atque tractandae tribuatur saltem parva dilatio.
"And he will do greater than these." Than what, I ask? Does he who works out his own salvation with fear and trembling do greater things than all the works of Christ? This, certainly, Christ works in him, but not without him. I would say outright that this is greater than heaven and earth and whatever is seen in heaven and on earth. For "heaven and earth will pass away"; but the salvation and justification of the predestined, that is, of those whom he foreknows, will remain. In those there is only the work of God, but in these there is also the image of God. But in the heavens too, Thrones, Dominions, Principalities, Powers, Archangels, and Angels are works of Christ; does he then do greater things even than these works, who, with Christ working in him, cooperates toward his own eternal salvation and justification? I do not dare to rush to a verdict here; let him understand who can, let him judge who can, whether it is greater to create the righteous than to justify the ungodly. For certainly, if both belong to equal power, the latter belongs to greater mercy. For this is "the great mystery of godliness, which was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, appeared to angels, preached among the nations, believed in the world, taken up in glory." But no necessity compels us to understand all the works of Christ where he says, "He will do greater than these." For perhaps he said "than these" meaning those he was doing at that hour; and at that time he was doing words of faith, and he had spoken beforehand of these works, saying, "The words that I speak to you I do not speak from myself; but the Father who abides in me, he does the works." At that time, then, his words were his works. And certainly it is less to preach words of righteousness, which he did apart from us, than to justify the ungodly, which he does in us in such a way that we too do it. It remains to ask how we are to take, "Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it." For because of the many things his faithful ask and do not receive, no small question arises here; but since this sermon must now be closed, let at least a short postponement be given for considering and treating it.
Phil 2:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 24:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 4:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 3:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Justifying the ungodly may be a greater work than creating the world, for it shows greater mercy; and the "greater works" may be measured against Christ's words of that hour.
- Phil 2:12, Matt 24:35, 1 Tim 3:16, and John 14:10, 12–13 are quoted; Col 1:16 and Rom 4:5 are in view. Sacramentum in 1 Tim 3:16 is rendered "mystery".
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (broken word)): iacit → facit; operator? → operatur?; boc csse → hoc esse; prascit → præscit; perma- Debit → permanebit; bis autem → his autem; senteutiam → sententiam; crcare → creare; uirumque → utrumque; miscricordise → misericordiæ; Hoc eat enim magnum → Hoc est enim magnum; manifestatum eat in carne → manifestatum est in carne; faciei, nulla → faciet, nulla; MoruM → Horum; quai in illa → quæ in illa; Verba qum → Verba quæ; juslificare → justificare; hine → hinc.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 72.3 (PL 35:1823; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-72-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 73
73.1PL 35:1823
Magnam spem Dominus suis promisit speranti bus, dicens: Quia ego ad Patrem vado, et quodcum que petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam. Sic ergo per rexit ad Patrem, ut non relinqueret indigentes, sed exaudiret petentes. Sed quid est, quodcumque petieri tis, cum videamus plerumque fideles ejus petere, et non accipere? An forte propterea quia male petunt? Nam hoc exprobravit apostolus Jacobus dicens: Pe titis, et non accipitis, eo quod male petatis, ut in concu piscentiis vestris insumatis. Male ergo usurus eo quod vult accipere, Deo potius miserante non accipit. Proinde si hoc ab illo petitur unde homo laedatur exauditus, magis metuendum est ne quod posset non dare propitius, det iratus. An non videmus Israelitas malo suo impetrasse quod culpabili concu piscentia petierunt? Concupierant enim carnibus vesci, quibus pluebatur manna de cælo. Fasti diebant quippe quod habebant; et quod non habe bant, impudenter petebant: quasi non melius pete rent, non ut cibus qui deerat indecenti desiderio praestaretur, sed ut ille qui aderat sanato fastidio su meretur. Quando enim nos delectant mala, et non delectant bona, rogare debemus potius Deum ut de lectent bona, quam ut concedantur mala. Non quia malum est carne vesci, cum de hac re loquens Apo stolus dicat, Omnis creatura Dei bona est, et nihil abji ciendum quod cum gratiarum actione, accipitur: sed quia sicut item ipse ait, Malum est homini qui per offensionem manducat; et si hominis offensionem, quanto magis Dei? Cujus in Israelitis non parva erat offensio, repudiare quod da bat sapientia, et petere id quod inhiabat concupiscen tia: quamvis illi nec peterent, sed quia deerat mur murarent. Sed ut sciremus non Dei creaturam esse culpabilem, sed inobedientiam contumacem et inor dinatam cupiditatem; non propter porcum, sed pro pter pomum mortem primus homo invenit, et Esau primatus suos non propter gallinam, sed pro pter lenticulam perdidit.
The Lord promised a great hope to those who hope in him, saying: "Because I am going to the Father, and whatever you ask in my name, I will do it." So he went to the Father in such a way as not to leave the needy but to hear those who ask. But what is "whatever you ask," when we see his faithful very often asking and not receiving? Is it perhaps because they ask badly? For the apostle James reproached this, saying: "You ask and do not receive, because you ask badly, to spend it on your desires." So one who would use badly what he wants to receive does not receive it, rather by God's mercy. Therefore if something is asked of him by which a man would be harmed if his prayer were heard, it is rather to be feared that what he could withhold in kindness he may give in anger. Do we not see that the Israelites obtained, to their harm, what they asked with blameworthy desire? For they had longed to eat meat, though manna was being rained on them from heaven. They loathed what they had, and shamelessly asked for what they did not have; as if they would not have done better to ask, not that the food they lacked be supplied to an unseemly desire, but that their loathing be healed and the food at hand be taken. For when evil things delight us and good things do not, we ought to ask God rather that good things may delight us than that evil things be granted. Not that it is evil to eat meat, since the Apostle, speaking of this matter, says, "Every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be rejected that is received with thanksgiving"; but because, as he also says, "It is evil for the man who eats with offense"; and if with offense to a man, how much more to God? To him it was no small offense in the Israelites to reject what wisdom gave and to ask for what desire gaped after; although they did not even ask, but grumbled because it was lacking. But so that we might know that it is not God's creature that is blameworthy but stubborn disobedience and disordered desire, the first man found death not because of a pig but because of a fruit, and Esau lost his birthright not because of a hen but because of a lentil stew.
John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · Jas 4:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Num 11:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Num 11:6 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Tim 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 14:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 3:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 25:34 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Many prayers are not granted because they are asked badly; God in mercy withholds what would harm, as the Israelites' craving for meat shows.
- John 14:12–13, Jas 4:3, 1 Tim 4:4, and Rom 14:20 are quoted; Num 11:4–6, Gen 3:6, and Gen 25:34 are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip): nen relinqueret → non relinqueret; proplerca → propterea; petunt! → petunt?; uade homo → unde homo; euim carnibus → enim carnibus; Aon habe → non habe; sanato fastidia → sanato fastidio; delcetant mala, ei non → delectant mala, et non; dicai → dicat; sicat item → sicut item; Malum eat homini → Malum est homini; (. Rom. XIV, 20 ) → ; Cujus is Israelitis → Cujus in Israelitis.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 73.1 (PL 35:1823; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-73-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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73.2PL 35:1823–1825
Quomodo ergo intelligendum est, Quodcumque petieritis, hoc faciam, si Deus aliqua petentibus fideli bus etiam consulendo non facit? An forte solis Apostolis dictum debemus accipere? Absit. Unde enim ad hoc venit ut diceret, superius dixerat, Qui credit in me, opera quæ ego facio, faciet, et majora horum faciet: de qua re pristino sermone tractavimus. Et ne quisquam hoc sibi tribueret, ut etiam illa opera ma jura seipsum facere ostenderet, adjecit, atque ait: Quia ego ad Patrem vado; et quodcumque petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam. Numquid in eum soli Apostoli crediderunt? Ad eos itaque loquebatur dicendo, Qui credit in me, in quibus eo donante etiam nos sumus, qui utique non quodcumque petierimus accipimus. Ipsos quoque beatissimos si cogitemus Apostolos, in venimus eum qui plus omnibus laboravit, non autem ipse, sed gratia Dei cum ipso, ter Do minum rogasse ut ab eo discederet angelus satanæ, nec tamen quod rogaverat accepisse. Quid dicemus, charissimi? Putabimusne hoc pro missum ubi ait, Quodcumque petieritis, hoc faciam, nec Apostolis fuisse ab illo completum? Et cui tandem quod promittit implebit, si Apostolos suos in sua pro missione fraudavit?
How then is "Whatever you ask, I will do it" to be understood, if God does not do some things that the faithful ask, even in caring for them? Should we perhaps take it as said to the apostles alone? Far from it. For the point from which he came to say this was what he had said above: "Whoever believes in me will do the works that I do, and he will do greater than these," which we treated in the previous sermon. And so that no one would attribute this to himself, to show that it is he himself who does even those greater works, he added and said: "Because I am going to the Father; and whatever you ask in my name, I will do it." Did the apostles alone believe in him? So when he said, "Whoever believes in me," he was speaking to those among whom, by his gift, we too are, who certainly do not receive whatever we ask. Even if we think of the most blessed apostles themselves, we find that he who labored more than them all, yet not he but the grace of God with him, asked the Lord three times that the angel of Satan might depart from him, and yet did not receive what he had asked. What shall we say, beloved? Shall we think that this promise, where he says, "Whatever you ask, I will do it," was not fulfilled by him even for the apostles? And for whom at last will he fulfill what he promises, if he cheated his own apostles of his promise?
John 14:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:10 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:7 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 12:8 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The promise cannot be limited to the apostles, yet even Paul did not receive what he asked three times.
- John 14:12–13 is quoted; 1 Cor 15:10 and 2 Cor 12:7–8 are in view.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): dicerct, supcrius → diceret, superius; (aciet: → faciet:; cHam → etiam; scipsum facere → seipsum facere; credidcrunt → crediderunt; Ad cos itaque → Ad eos itaque; uliquc → utique; accipitmus → accipimus; charissimi'? → charissimi?; nee Apostolis fuissc → nec Apostolis fuisse.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 73.2 (PL 35:1823–1825; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-73-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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73.3PL 35:1825
Evigila igitur, homo fidelis, et vigilanter audi quod illic positum est, in nomine meo: ipsum enim quodcumque, non ait, petieritis utcumque; sed, in nomine meo. Qui promisit ergo tam magnum benefi cium, quid vocatur? Utique Christus Jesus: Christus significat regem, Jesus significat Salvatorem: non utique nos salvos faciet, quicumque rex, sed rex Sal vator; ac per hoc quodcumque petimus adversus uti litatem salutis, non petimus in nomine Salvatoris. Et tamen ipse Salvator est, non solum quando facit quod petimus, verum etiam quando non facit; quo niam quod videt peti contra salutem, non faciendo potius se exhibet Salvatorem. Novit enim medicus quid pro sua, quid contra suam salutem poscat aegro tus; et ideo contraria poscentis non facit voluntatem, ut faciat sanitatem. Quapropter quando volumus ut faciat quodcumque petimus, non utcumque, sed in no mine ejus petamus, hoc est in nomine Salvatoris pe tamus. Non ergo contra nostram salutem petamus: quod si fecerit, non ut Salvator facit, quod est no men ejus fidelibus ejus. Est quippe impiis et damna tor, qui dignatur fidelibus esse Salvator. Qui ergo credit in eum, quodcumque petierit in eo nomine, quod est illis qui credunt in eum, hoc facit; quoniam hoc sicut Salvator facit. Si autem qui in eum credit, aliquid per ignorantiam contra suam salutem petit, non in nomine Salvatoris petit; quia Salvator ejus non erit, si quod ejus salutem impedit, fecerit. Unde tunc expedit potius ut non faciendo propter quod invocatur, faciat quod vocatur. Propterea non solum Salvator, sed etiam magister bonus, ut faciat quod cumque petierimus, in ipsa oratione quam nobis dedit, docuit quid petamus; ut etiam sic intelliga mus non petere nos in nomine magistri, quod peti mus præter regulam ipsius magisterii.
Wake up, then, believer, and listen attentively to what is placed there: "in my name." For he did not say "whatever you ask" in any way at all, but "in my name." What then is he called who promised so great a benefit? Christ Jesus, of course: Christ means King, Jesus means Savior. Certainly not just any king will save us, but the King who is Savior; and therefore whatever we ask against the interest of our salvation, we do not ask in the name of the Savior. And yet he is Savior not only when he does what we ask but also when he does not; for when he sees something asked against salvation, he shows himself the Savior rather by not doing it. For the doctor knows what the sick man asks for in favor of his health and what against it; and therefore he does not do the will of one who asks for what is harmful, so that he may bring about health. So when we want him to do whatever we ask, let us ask not in any way at all but in his name, that is, let us ask in the name of the Savior. Let us not, then, ask against our salvation; for if he does that, he does not do it as Savior, which is his name for his faithful. For he who deigns to be Savior to the faithful is also the one who condemns the ungodly. So whoever believes in him, whatever he asks in that name which he bears for those who believe in him, he does it, because he does it as Savior. But if one who believes in him asks through ignorance something against his own salvation, he does not ask in the name of the Savior; for he will not be his Savior if he does what hinders his salvation. Hence it is then better that, by not doing what he is called upon for, he may do what he is called. Therefore, as not only Savior but also good teacher, so that he may do whatever we ask, he taught us in the very prayer he gave us what to ask; so that in this way too we may understand that we do not ask in the teacher's name what we ask outside the rule of his teaching.
John 14:13 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:14 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 6:9 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: To ask "in the name" of Jesus, the Savior, is to ask for what serves salvation, as taught in the Lord's Prayer; what harms salvation he grants by refusing.
- John 14:13–14 is in view; the Lord's Prayer (Matt 6:9–13) is referred to. Augustine glosses Christ as "King" and Jesus as "Savior".
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): pctieritis utcumque → petieritis utcumque; vocatur T Utique → vocatur? Utique; qnod petimus → quod petimus; mineejus → mine ejus; si qnod ejus → si quod ejus; etpedit potius at non faciendo propter qnod → expedit potius ut non faciendo propter quod; eliam magister → etiam magister; Bon petere nus → non petere nos.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 73.3 (PL 35:1825; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-73-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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73.4PL 35:1825
Sane quædam quamvis in nomine ejus petamus, id est secundum Salvatorem et secundum magistrum petamus; non tunc quando petimus facit, sed tamen facit. Neque enim quia et illud petimus ut veniat re gnum Dei, propterea non facit quod petimus, quia non statim cum illo in æternitate regnamus: differtur enim quod petimus, non negatur. Verumtamen oran tes tanquam seminantes non deficiamus; tempore enim proprio metemus. Et simul pcta mus quando bene petimus, ut non faciat quod non bene petimus; quia et ad hoc pertinet quod in eadem oratione dominica dicimus, Ne nos inferas in tenta tionem. Neque enim parva est ten. tatio, si contra tuam sit causam tua postulatio. Non autem negligenter audiendum est, quod Dominus, ne quisquam eum putaret quod se promisit facere peten tibus, sine Patre esse facturum, cum dixisset, Quod cumque petieritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam, continuo subjecit, Ut glorificetur Pater in Filio, si quid petie ritis in nomine meo, hoc faciam. Nullo modo igitur sine Patre hoc Filius facit, quandoquidem ut in illo Pater glorificetur, propterea facit. Facit ergo Pater in Filio, ut Filius glorificetur in Patre: et facit Fi lius in Patre, ut Pater glorificetur in Filio; quoniam unum sunt Pater et Filius.
Certainly, even when we ask certain things in his name, that is, ask in accordance with the Savior and in accordance with the teacher, he does not do them at the time we ask, but he does them nonetheless. For it is not the case that, because we ask that the kingdom of God may come, he does not do what we ask simply because we do not at once reign with him in eternity: what we ask is deferred, not denied. Yet in praying, as in sowing, let us not lose heart; for in due season we shall reap. And at the same time, when we ask well, let us ask that he not do what we ask badly; for this too belongs to what we say in the same Lord's Prayer: "Lead us not into temptation." For it is no small temptation if your request is against your own cause. But we must not listen carelessly to this: lest anyone think that what he promised to do for those who ask he would do without the Father, when he had said, "Whatever you ask in my name, I will do it," he at once added, "that the Father may be glorified in the Son; if you ask anything in my name, I will do it." So the Son in no way does this without the Father, since he does it precisely so that the Father may be glorified in him. So the Father acts in the Son, that the Son may be glorified in the Father; and the Son acts in the Father, that the Father may be glorified in the Son; for the Father and the Son are one.
Matt 6:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 6:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 6:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Some rightly asked things are deferred, not denied; and the Son grants prayers together with the Father, for they are one.
- Matt 6:10, Matt 6:13, John 14:13–14, and John 10:30 are quoted or used; Gal 6:9 is echoed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): gjus → ejus; id cst → id est; Salvatorcm et sccundum magistr um → Salvatorem et secundum magistrum; pctimus facit → petimus facit; Ncque enim → Neque enim; deliciamus → deficiamus; bene pctimus → bene petimus; Neque cnim parva → Neque enim parva; cum putarct → eum putaret; hoc faciant continuo → hoc faciam, continuo; Patrc: → Patre:; Patcr glorificetur → Pater glorificetur; unum suut → unum sunt.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 73.4 (PL 35:1825; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/71-1/#p-73-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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