Tractates on the Gospel of John 3.21–4.16

Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).

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Chapter 3

3.21PL 35:1405

Fratres mei, unde clamatis, unde exsultatis, unde amatis, nisi quia ibi est scintilla hujus charita­ tis? Quid desideratis, rogo vos? Videri potest oculis? tangi potest? pulchritudo aliqua est quae oculos de­ lectat? Nonne martyres amati sunt vehementer; et quando eos commemoramus, inardescimus amore! Quid in illis amamus, fratres? Membra laniata a fe­ ris? Quid foedius, si oculos carnis interroges? quid pulchrius, si oculos cordis interroges? Quid tibi vi­ detur adolescens pulcherrimus fur? Quomodo horrent oculi tui? Numquid oculi carnis horrent? Si ipsos in­ terroges, nihil illo corpore compositius, nihil ordinatius; et parilitas membrorum, et coloris delectatio illicit oculos: et tamen cum audis quia fur est, fugis hominem animo. Vides ex alia parte senem curvum, baculo innitentem, vix se moventem, rugis undique exaratum: quid vides quod oculos delectet? Audis quia justus est; amas, amplecteris. Talia nobis præ­ mia promissa sunt, fratres mei: tale aliquid amate, tali regno suspirate, talem patriam desiderate; si vul­ tis pervenire ad id cum quo venit Dominus noster, id est, ad gratiam et veritatem. Si autem corporalia præmia concupieris a Deo, adhuc sub Lege es, et ideo ipsam Legem non implebis. Quando enim vide­ ris abundare ista temporalia in eis qui Deum offendunt, nutant gressus tui, et dicis tibi: Ecce ego colo Deum, quotidie ad ecclesiam curro, genua mihi trita sunt in orationibus; et assidue ægroto: homicidia fa­ ciunt homines, rapinas faciunt; exsultant et abundant, bene est illis. Talia ergo quærebas a Deo? Certe ad gratiam pertinebas. Si gratiam ideo tibi dedit Deus, quia gratis dedit, gratis ama. Noli ad praemium diligere Deum; ipse sit praemium tuum. Dicat anima tua, Unam petii a Domino, hanc requiram, ut inhabitem in domo Domini per omnes dies vitae meae, ut contempler delectationem Domini. Noli timere ne fastidio deficias: talis erit illa delectatio pulchritudinis, ut semper tibi praesens sit, et nunquam satieris; imo semper satieris, et nunquam satieris. Si enim dixero quia non satiaberis, fames erit; si dixero quia satiaberis, fa­ stidium timeo: ubi nec fastidium erit, nec fames, quid dicam nescio; sed Deus habet quod exhibeat non invenientibus quomodo dicant, et credentibus quod accipiant.

My brothers, why do you cry out, why do you exult, why do you love, unless because a spark of this love is there? What do you desire, I ask you? Can it be seen with the eyes? Can it be touched? Is it some beauty that delights the eyes? Have not the martyrs been loved intensely, and when we commemorate them, do we not burn with love? What do we love in them, brothers? Limbs torn by wild beasts? What is more hideous, if you ask the eyes of the flesh? What more beautiful, if you ask the eyes of the heart? What do you think of a very handsome young man who is a thief? How your eyes recoil! Do the eyes of the flesh recoil? If you ask them, nothing is better formed than that body, nothing better proportioned; both the symmetry of the limbs and the pleasing color attract the eyes. And yet when you hear that he is a thief, you shrink from the man in your mind. On the other side you see an old man, bent, leaning on a stick, scarcely moving, furrowed all over with wrinkles: what do you see that delights the eyes? You hear that he is righteous; you love him, you embrace him. Such are the rewards promised us, my brothers: love something like this, sigh for such a kingdom, long for such a homeland, if you wish to arrive at that with which our Lord came, that is, at grace and truth. But if you covet bodily rewards from God, you are still under the law, and therefore you will not fulfill the law itself. For when you see these temporal things abounding in those who offend God, your steps waver, and you say to yourself: "Look, I worship God, I run to church every day, my knees are worn out with prayers, and I am constantly ill; men commit murders, they commit robberies, they exult and abound, all goes well with them." Was it such things, then, that you sought from God? Surely you belonged to grace. If God gave you grace because he gave it gratis, love him gratis. Do not love God for a reward; let him be your reward. Let your soul say, "One thing I have asked of the Lord; this I will seek: that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, that I may contemplate the delight of the Lord." Do not fear that you will give out from weariness: such will be that delight of beauty that it will always be present to you and you will never have your fill; or rather, you will always be filled and never have your fill. For if I say that you will not be filled, there will be hunger; if I say that you will be filled, I fear weariness. Where there will be neither weariness nor hunger, I do not know what to say; but God has what he will show to those who cannot find how to say it and who believe that they will receive it.

Ps 27:4 (26:4 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 73:2 (72:2 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: As we love the righteous for invisible beauty, not bodily appearance, so Christians must love God freely for himself, not for temporal rewards, longing to contemplate him without hunger or weariness.

  • Quotation: Ps 27:4 (26:4 LXX/Vulg.); allusion to Ps 73:2-3. Stray marks in the digital text ('I' after 'ordinatius', an apostrophe after 'pertinebas') are removed; 'salieris' is read satieris.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Dco → Deo); OCR slip in the digital text (abun­ dant,, → abundant,); OCR slip in the digital text (clamatis,. → clamatis,); OCR slip in the digital text (compositias → compositius); OCR slip in the digital text (mterroges → interroges); OCR slip in the digital text (oflen­ dunt → offendunt); OCR slip in the digital text (ordina­ tius I; → ordinatius;); OCR slip in the digital text (pertinebas '. → pertinebas.); OCR slip in the digital text (salie­ ris, et nunquam salieris → satieris, et nunquam satieris); OCR slip in the digital text (taLe → tale); OCR slip in the digital text (vitæ meœ → vitae meae)): clamatis,. → clamatis,; mterroges → interroges; compositias → compositius; ordina­ tius I; → ordinatius;; taLe → tale; oflen­ dunt → offendunt; abun­ dant,, → abundant,; a Dco? → a Deo?; pertinebas '. → pertinebas.; vitæ meœ → vitae meae; salie­ ris, et nunquam salieris → satieris, et nunquam satieris.

Topics: Eschatology, Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 3.21 (PL 35:1405; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-3-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 4

4.1PL 35:1405

Sæpissime audivit Sanctitas vestra, et optime nostis, quoniam Joannes Baptista quanto praeclarior erat in natis mulierum, et quanto humilior ad cognoscen­ dum Dominum, tanto meruit esse amicus sponsi; sponso zelans, non sibi; non suum honorem quae­ rens, sed judicis sui, quem tanquam praeco praeibat. Itaque Prophetis praecedentibus praenuntiare de Chri­ sto futura concessum est; huic autem digito osten­ dere. Sicut enim ignorabatur Christus ab his qui Prophetis non crediderunt antequam veniret, sic ab eis ignorabatur et praesens. Venerat enim humiliter primo et occultus; tanto occultior, quanto humilior: populi autem spernentes per superbiam suam humili­ tatem Dei, crucifixerunt Salvatorem suum, et fece­ runt damnatorem suum.

Your Holiness has very often heard, and you know very well, that John the Baptist, the more eminent he was among those born of women and the more humble in acknowledging the Lord, the more he deserved to be the friend of the bridegroom: jealous for the bridegroom, not for himself, seeking not his own honor but that of his judge, before whom he went as a herald. And so to the prophets who went before it was granted to foretell things to come concerning Christ; but to him, to point him out with his finger. For just as Christ was unknown before he came to those who did not believe the prophets, so he was unknown to them even when present. For he had come at first humbly and hidden, the more hidden the more humble; and the peoples, despising in their pride the humility of God, crucified their Savior and made him their condemner.

Matt 11:11 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:29 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:29 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: John the Baptist, great yet humble, was granted not only to foretell Christ like the prophets but to point him out; yet the proud did not know the humble Christ and crucified him.

  • Allusions: Matt 11:11; John 3:29; John 1:29 (pointing out the Lamb).

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (no. stis → nostis); OCR slip in the digital text (praibat → praeibat)): no. stis → nostis; praibat → praeibat.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.1 (PL 35:1405; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.2PL 35:1405

Sed qui primo venit occultus, quia venit humilis, numquid deinceps non est venturus manifestus, quia excelsus? Audistis modo Psalmum: Deus ma­ nifestus veniet, Deus noster et non silebit. Siluit ut ju­ dicaretur, non silebit cum coeperit judicare. Non diceretur, manifestus veniet, nisi primo venisset oc­ cultus; nec diceretur, non silebit, nisi quia primo siluit. Quomodo siluit? Interroga Isaiam: Sicut ovis ad occisionem ductus est, et sicut agnus coram eo qui se tonderet, fuit sine voce, sic non aperuit os suum. Veniet autem manifestus, et non silebit. Quomodo manifestus? Ignis ante eum prœibit, et in circuitu ejus tempestas valida. Tem­ pestas illa tollere habet totam paleam de area, quæ modo trituratur; et ignis incendere quod tempestas abstulerit. Modo autem tacet: tacet judicio, sed non tacet praecepto. Si enim tacet Christus, quid sibi volunt hæc Evangelia? quid sibi volunt voces apo­ stolicae, quid cantica Psalmorum, quid eloquia Pro­ phetarum? In his enim omnibus Christus non tacet. Sed tacet modo, ut non vindicet: non tacet, ut non moneat. Veniet autem præclarus in vindictam, et apparebit omnibus, et qui in eum non credunt. Modo vero quia et praesens occultus erat, oportebat ut contemneretur. Nisi enim contemneretur, non crucifige­ retur: si non crucifigeretur, non funderet sangui­ nem, quo pretio nos redemit. Ut autem daret pretium pro nobis, crucifixus est; ut crucifigeretur, contem­ ptus est; ut contemneretur, humilis apparuit.

But he who came first hidden, because he came humble, will he not come hereafter manifest, because exalted? You have just heard the Psalm: "God will come manifestly, our God, and he will not keep silence." He kept silence so as to be judged; he will not keep silence when he begins to judge. It would not be said, "He will come manifestly," unless he had first come hidden; nor would it be said, "He will not keep silence," unless he had first kept silence. How did he keep silence? Ask Isaiah: "He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and like a lamb before its shearer he was without voice; so he did not open his mouth." But he will come manifestly and will not keep silence. How manifestly? "A fire will go before him, and round about him a mighty tempest." That tempest is to carry away all the chaff from the threshing floor which is now being threshed; and the fire, to burn what the tempest has carried off. Now, however, he is silent: silent in judgment, but not silent in precept. For if Christ is silent, what do these Gospels mean? What do the apostolic voices mean, the songs of the Psalms, the utterances of the prophets? For in all these Christ is not silent. But he is silent now in not taking vengeance; he is not silent in warning. But he will come in splendor to take vengeance, and will appear to all, even to those who do not believe in him. But now, because even when present he was hidden, it was necessary that he be despised. For had he not been despised, he would not have been crucified; had he not been crucified, he would not have shed his blood, the price with which he redeemed us. In order to pay the price for us he was crucified; in order to be crucified he was despised; in order to be despised he appeared humble.

Ps 50:3 (49:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 53:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:12 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Christ, who came hidden and silent to be judged and crucified, paying the price of our redemption, will come again manifest and speaking as judge.

  • Quotations: Ps 50:3 (49:3 LXX/Vulg.); Isa 53:7; allusion to Matt 3:12 (chaff and threshing floor). A stray 'i' after 'tonderet' in the digital text is removed.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Cbristus → Christus); OCR slip in the digital text (antem → autem); OCR slip in the digital text (bis enim → his enim); OCR slip in the digital text (con. temneretur → contemneretur); OCR slip in the digital text (el sicut → et sicut); OCR slip in the digital text (humi- Jis → humilis); OCR slip in the digital text (ignis ante → Ignis ante); OCR slip in the digital text (palcam → paleam); OCR slip in the digital text (tonderet i, → tonderet,)): humi- Jis → humilis; el sicut → et sicut; tonderet i, → tonderet,; ignis ante → Ignis ante; palcam → paleam; Modo antem tacet: → Modo autem tacet:; bis enim → his enim; Cbristus → Christus; Veniet antem præclarus → Veniet autem præclarus; con. temneretur → contemneretur.

Topics: Eschatology, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.2 (PL 35:1405; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.3PL 35:1405–1407

Tamen quia quasi in nocte apparuit in corpore mortali, lucernam sibi accendit unde videretur. Ipsa lucerna Joannes erat, de quo jam multa audivistis: et praesens lectio Evangelii, verba Joan­ nis continet, primo, quod praecipuum est, confitentis quia non ipse erat Christus. Tanta autem excellentia erat in Joanne, ut posset credi Christus: et in eo probata est humilitas ejus, quia dixit se non esse, cum posset credi esse. Ergo, Hoc est testimonium Joannis, quando miserunt Judœi ab Jerosolymis sacer­ dotes et Levitas ad eum, ut interrogarent eum, Tu quis es? Non autem mitterent, nisi moverentur excellentia auctoritatis ejus, quia ausus est baptizare. Et confes­ sus est, et non negavit. Quid confessus est? Et con­ fessus est, Quia non sum ego Christus.

Yet because he appeared, as it were, in the night, in a mortal body, he lit a lamp for himself by which he might be seen. That lamp was John, of whom you have already heard much; and the present reading of the Gospel contains the words of John, first, which is the chief thing, confessing that he himself was not the Christ. Yet there was such excellence in John that he could have been believed to be the Christ; and in this his humility was proved, that he said he was not, when he could have been believed to be. So: "This is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to him to ask him, Who are you?" They would not have sent unless they had been stirred by the excellence of his authority, in that he dared to baptize. "And he confessed and did not deny." What did he confess? "And he confessed, I am not the Christ."

John 1:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:35 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John, the lamp lit for Christ, showed his humility by confessing that he was not the Christ, though his excellence could have made people believe he was.

  • Quotations: John 1:19-20; allusion to John 5:35.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (JoanniS → Joannis); OCR slip in the digital text (ad cum → ad eum); OCR slip in the digital text (ejas → ejus); OCR slip in the digital text (lueernam sibi aceendit → lucernam sibi accendit); OCR slip in the digital text (movcrenlur → moverentur); OCR slip in the digital text (pracipuum → praecipuum)): lueernam sibi aceendit → lucernam sibi accendit; pracipuum → praecipuum; ejas → ejus; JoanniS → Joannis; ad cum → ad eum; movcrenlur → moverentur.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.3 (PL 35:1405–1407; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.4PL 35:1407

Et interrogaverunt eum, Quid ergo? Elias es tu? Noverant enim quia præcessurus erat Elias Christum. Non enim alicui incognitum erat nomen Christi apud Judæos. Istum non putaverunt esse Christum: non omnino Christum non esse venturum. Cum sperarent venturum, sic offenderunt in præsentem, offenderunt tanquam in humilem lapidem. Lapis enim ille adhuc parvus erat, jam quidem præcisus de monte sine ma­ nibus: sicut dicit Daniel propheta, vidisse se lapidem præcisum de monte sine manibus. Sed quid sequitur? Et crevit, inquit, lapis ille, et factus est mons magnus, et implevit universam faciem terrœ. Videat ergo Charitas vestra quod dico: Christus ante Judæos jam praecisus erat de monte. Montem regnum vult intelligi Judaeorum. Sed regnum Judæorum non impleverat universam faciem terræ. Inde præcisus est ille lapis, quia inde natus est in præsentia Dominus. Et quare sine manibus? Quia sine opere virili Virgo peperit Christum. Jam ergo erat lapis ille præcisus sine manibus, ante oculos Judæorum: sed humilis erat. Non immerito; quia nondum creverat lapis ille, et impleverat orbem terrarum: quod ostendit in re­ gno suo, quod est Ecclesia, qua implevit totam faciem terræ. Quia ergo nondum creverat, offenderunt in illum tanquam in lapidem: et factum est in eis quod scriptum est, Qui ceciderit super lapidem istum, con­ quassabitur; et super quos ceciderit lapis ille, conteret eos. Primo super humilem ceciderunt; excelsus super illos venturus est: sed ut eos venturus excelsus conterat, primo eos humilis quassavit. Offen­ derunt in eum, et quassati sunt; non contriti, sed quassati: veniet excelsus, et conteret eos. Sed igno­ scendum est Judæis, quia offenderunt in lapidem qui nondum creverat. Quales sunt illi qui in ipsum mon­ tem offenderunt? Jam de quibus dicam cognoscitis. Qui negant Ecclesiam toto orbe diffusam, non in hu­ milem lapidem, sed in ipsum montem offendunt: quod factus est ille lapis dum cresceret. Cæci Judæi non vi­ derunt humilem lapidem: quanta cæcitas est non vi­ dere montem?

"And they asked him, What then? Are you Elijah?" For they knew that Elijah was to precede the Christ. For the name of Christ was unknown to no one among the Jews. They did not think that this man was the Christ; but they did not think that the Christ would not come at all. While they hoped he would come, they stumbled against him when present, stumbled as against a lowly stone. For that stone was still small, already indeed cut from the mountain without hands, as the prophet Daniel says that he saw a stone cut from the mountain without hands. But what follows? "And that stone grew," he says, "and became a great mountain, and filled the whole face of the earth." Let your Charity see, then, what I mean. Christ, before the Jews, had already been cut from the mountain. By the mountain he wants the kingdom of the Jews to be understood. But the kingdom of the Jews had not filled the whole face of the earth. From there that stone was cut, because from there the Lord was born in his bodily presence. And why without hands? Because without the work of a man the Virgin gave birth to Christ. So that stone, cut without hands, was already before the eyes of the Jews; but it was lowly. Not without reason: because that stone had not yet grown and filled the world, which he showed in his kingdom, which is the Church, with which he has filled the whole face of the earth. Because, then, it had not yet grown, they stumbled against him as against a stone; and there was fulfilled in them what is written: "He who falls on this stone will be shattered; and on whomever that stone falls, it will crush them." First they fell on him when he was lowly; exalted, he will come upon them. But so that, coming exalted, he may crush them, first, lowly, he shattered them. They stumbled against him and were shattered; not crushed, but shattered: he will come exalted and crush them. But the Jews are to be pardoned, because they stumbled against a stone that had not yet grown. What sort of people are they who have stumbled against the mountain itself? You already know whom I mean. Those who deny the Church spread throughout the whole world stumble not against the lowly stone but against the mountain itself, which that stone became as it grew. The blind Jews did not see the lowly stone: how great a blindness it is not to see the mountain!

John 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 2:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 2:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 20:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 21:44 (quotation, medium confidence)

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Summary: Christ is Daniel's stone cut without hands, against which the Jews stumbled while it was small; those who deny the Church spread through the world stumble against the mountain it has become.

  • Quotations: John 1:21; Dan 2:34-35; Luke 20:18 (cf. Matt 21:44). 'Those who deny the Church spread throughout the whole world' are the Donatists, whom Augustine does not name here; his polemic, and his language about 'the Jews', are translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Cbaritas → Charitas); OCR slip in the digital text (Judxorum → Judaeorum); OCR slip in the digital text (Moutcm → Montem); OCR slip in the digital text (Qualcs → Quales); OCR slip in the digital text (cccidcrunt → ceciderunt); OCR slip in the digital text (cnim → enim); OCR slip in the digital text (crat → erat); OCR slip in the digital text (facicm → faciem); OCR slip in the digital text (in cum → in eum); OCR slip in the digital text (jlle → ille); OCR slip in the digital text (lapidcm → lapidem); OCR slip in the digital text (lapidem). → lapidem.); OCR slip in the digital text (loto orbe → toto orbe); OCR slip in the digital text (ut cos → ut eos); OCR slip in the digital text (venie! excelsus, ct → veniet excelsus, et)): cnim → enim; lapidem). → lapidem.; jlle → ille; lapidcm → lapidem; Cbaritas → Charitas; crat → erat; Moutcm → Montem; Judxorum → Judaeorum; facicm → faciem; cccidcrunt → ceciderunt; ut cos → ut eos; in cum → in eum; venie! excelsus, ct → veniet excelsus, et; Qualcs → Quales; loto orbe → toto orbe.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.4 (PL 35:1407; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.5PL 35:1407

Ergo viderunt humilem, et non cognoverunt. Demonstrabatur illis per lucernam. Nam primo ille, quo major nemo surrexerat in natis mulierum, dixit, Non sum ego Christus. Dictumque illi est, Numquid tu es Elias? Respondit, non sum. Christus enim præmittit ante se Eliam: et dixit, Non sum, et fecit nobis quoe­ stionem. Timendum est enim ne minus intelligentes, contraria putent Joannem dixisse quam Christus dixit. Quodam enim loco, cum Dominus Jesus Christus in Evangelio quaedam diceret de se, responderunt illi discipuli: Quomodo ergo dicunt Scribœ, id est periti Le­ gis, quia Eliam oportet primum venire? Et ait Dominus: Elias jam venit, et fecerunt ei quæ voluerunt; et si vultis scire, ipse est Joannes Baptista. Dominus Jesus Christus dixit, Elias jam venit, et ipse est Joannes Baptista: Joannes autem interrogatus sic se confessus est Eliam non esse, quomodo nec Christum esse. Et utique sicut verum confessus est Christum se non esse, sic verum confes­ sus est nec Eliam se esse. Quomodo ergo comparabi­ mus dicta praeconis cum dictis judicis? Absit ut prae­ co mentiatur: hoc enim loquitur quod audit a judice. Quare ergo ille, Non sum Elias: et Dominus, Ipse est Elias? Quia in eo Dominus Jesus Christus præfigurare voluit futurum adventum suum, et hoc dicere, quia in spiritu Eliae erat Joannes. Et quod erat Joannes ad primum adventum, hoc erit Elias ad secundum adventum. Quomodo duo adventus judicis, sic duo praecones. Judex quidem ipse, praecones autem duo: non duo judices. Oportebat enim judicem primo venire judicandum. Misit ante se primum praeconem, vocavit illum Eliam; quia hoc erit in secundo adventu Elias, quod in primo Joannes.

So they saw him lowly and did not know him. He was pointed out to them by the lamp. For first that man, than whom none greater had arisen among those born of women, said, "I am not the Christ." And it was said to him, "Are you Elijah?" He answered, "I am not." For Christ sends Elijah before him; and he said, "I am not," and raised a question for us. For it is to be feared that the less understanding may think that John said the opposite of what Christ said. For in a certain place, when the Lord Jesus Christ was saying certain things about himself in the Gospel, his disciples answered him, "Why then do the scribes," that is, those learned in the law, "say that Elijah must come first?" And the Lord said, "Elijah has already come, and they did to him whatever they wished"; and "if you wish to know, he is John the Baptist." The Lord Jesus Christ said, "Elijah has already come, and he is John the Baptist"; but John, when asked, confessed that he was not Elijah, just as he confessed he was not the Christ. And certainly, just as he confessed truly that he was not the Christ, so he confessed truly that he was not Elijah. How, then, shall we reconcile the words of the herald with the words of the judge? Far be it that the herald should lie: for he speaks what he hears from the judge. Why then does he say, "I am not Elijah," and the Lord, "He is Elijah"? Because in him the Lord Jesus Christ wished to prefigure his own future coming, and to say this: that John was in the spirit of Elijah. And what John was for the first coming, Elijah will be for the second coming. As there are two comings of the judge, so there are two heralds. The judge is one, but the heralds two: not two judges. For it was necessary that the judge should come first to be judged. He sent before him the first herald and called him Elijah, because Elijah will be in the second coming what John was in the first.

John 1:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 17:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Mal 4:5 (3:22 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John denied being Elijah, while Christ said he was Elijah; both spoke truly, for John was in the spirit of Elijah, herald of the first coming as Elijah will be of the second.

  • Quotations: John 1:20-21; Matt 17:10-12; Matt 11:14; allusions to Matt 11:11; Mal 4:5.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Jesirs → Jesus); OCR slip in the digital text (Quolnodo → Quomodo); OCR slip in the digital text (ad. ventum → adventum); OCR slip in the digital text (ait, Domi­ nus → ait Dominus); OCR slip in the digital text (autcm → autem); OCR slip in the digital text (cognovcrunt → cognoverunt); OCR slip in the digital text (diccre → dicere); OCR slip in the digital text (die scipuli → discipuli); OCR slip in the digital text (eniin → enim); OCR slip in the digital text (ju - dicandum → judicandum); OCR slip in the digital text (nee → nec); OCR slip in the digital text (non csso → non esse); OCR slip in the digital text (periii → periti); OCR slip in the digital text (pr:econes → praecones); OCR slip in the digital text (praecoues → praecones); OCR slip in the digital text (tu ca Elias → tu es Elias); OCR slip in the digital text (utiqne → utique)): cognovcrunt → cognoverunt; tu ca Elias → tu es Elias; die scipuli → discipuli; periii → periti; ait, Domi­ nus → ait Dominus; Jesirs → Jesus; autcm → autem; non csso → non esse; quomodo nee Christum → quomodo nec Christum; utiqne → utique; est nee Eliam → est nec Eliam; eniin → enim; diccre → dicere; ad. ventum → adventum; Quolnodo → Quomodo; pr:econes → praecones; praecoues → praecones; ju - dicandum → judicandum.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.5 (PL 35:1407; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.6PL 35:1407–1409

Namque intendat Charitas vestra quam verum dicam. Quando conceptus est Joannes, vel potius quando natus est, Spiritus sanctus hoc de illo homine implendum prophetavit: Et erit, inquit, præcursor Al­ tissimi, in spiritu et virtute Eliae. Non ergo Elias, sed in spiritu et virtute Eliae. Quid est, in spiritu et virtute Eliœ? In eodem Spiritu sancto vice Eliae. Quare vice Eliae? Quia quod Elias secundo, hoc Joannes primo adventui fuit. Recte ergo modo Joannes proprie respondit. Nam Dominus figurate, Elias ipse est Joannes: iste autem, ut dixi, proprie, Non sum ego Elias. Si figuram praecursionis advertas, Joannes ipse est Elias: quod enim ille ad primum adventum, hoc ille ad secundum erit. Si proprietatem personæ interroges, Joannes Joannes, Elias Elias; Dominus er­ go ad præfigurationem recte, Ipse est Elias: Joannes autem recte ad proprietatem, Non sum Elias. Nec Joannes falsum, nec Dominus falsum: nec præco fal­ sum, nec Judex falsum; sed si intelligas. Quis autem intelliget? Qui imitatus fuerit humilitatem præconis, et cognoverit celsitudinem judicis. Nihil enim humi­ lius ipso praecone. Fratres mei, nullum tantum meritum Joannes habuit quam de ista humilitate, quod cum posset fallere homines, et putari Christus, et haberi pro Christo (tantæ enim gratiae tantæque excellentiae fuit), confessus est tamen aperte, et dixit, Non sum ego Christus. Numquid tu Elias es? Jam si diceret, Elias sum; ergo jam in secundo adventu adveniens Christus judicaret, non adhuc in primo judicaretur. Tanquam dicens, Venturus est et Elias; Non sum, in­ quit, Elias. Sed observate humilem, ante quem venit Joannes, ne sentiatis excelsum ante quem venturus est Elias. Nam et Dominus ita complevit: Ipse est Joannes Baptista qui venturus est. Ipsa præfiguratione venit iste, qua proprietate venturus est Elias. Tunc Elias per proprietatem Elias erit, nunc per similitudi­ nem Joannes erat. Modo Joannes per proprietatem Joannes, per similitudinem Elias est. Ambo praecones sibi dederunt similitudines suas, et tenuerunt pro­ prietates suas: unus autem Dominus judex, sive illo, praecone præcedente, sive illo.

For let your Charity note how true is what I say. When John was conceived, or rather when he was born, the Holy Spirit prophesied what was to be fulfilled concerning that man: "And he will be," he says, "the forerunner of the Most High, in the spirit and power of Elijah." So not Elijah, but "in the spirit and power of Elijah." What does "in the spirit and power of Elijah" mean? In the same Holy Spirit, in the place of Elijah. Why in the place of Elijah? Because what Elijah will be for the second coming, John was for the first. Rightly, then, did John now answer in the proper sense. For the Lord said figuratively, "Elijah himself is John"; but John, as I said, in the proper sense, "I am not Elijah." If you consider the figure of forerunning, John is Elijah: for what the one was for the first coming, the other will be for the second. If you inquire into the proper identity of the person, John is John, Elijah is Elijah. So the Lord rightly said, with regard to the prefiguring, "He is Elijah"; and John rightly said, with regard to the proper identity, "I am not Elijah." Neither John spoke falsely nor the Lord; neither the herald nor the judge: but only if you understand. And who will understand? He who imitates the humility of the herald and recognizes the loftiness of the judge. For nothing was humbler than that herald. My brothers, John had no merit so great as this humility: that when he could have deceived men and been thought the Christ and been taken for the Christ (for he was of so great grace and so great excellence), he nevertheless confessed openly and said, "I am not the Christ." "Are you Elijah?" Now if he had said, "I am Elijah," then Christ would already be coming in his second coming to judge, not still in his first to be judged. As if saying, "Elijah too is yet to come," he says, "I am not Elijah." But consider the lowly one, before whom John came, so that you do not experience the exalted one, before whom Elijah is to come. For the Lord also completed it thus: "He is John the Baptist, who is to come." This man came in the prefiguring in which Elijah is to come in his proper person. Then Elijah will be Elijah in his proper person; now John was Elijah by likeness. Now John is John in his proper person, Elijah by likeness. Both heralds gave each other their likenesses and kept their proper identities; but there is one Lord, the judge, whichever herald goes before him.

Luke 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:76 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:14 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: John came 'in the spirit and power of Elijah': figuratively he was Elijah, properly he was not, so both he and the Lord spoke truly; his greatest merit was his humility in refusing to be taken for the Christ.

  • Quotations: Luke 1:17 (with 1:76); John 1:20-21; Matt 11:14. 'He is John the Baptist, who is to come' follows the digital text, which seems to compress Matt 11:14 ('he is Elijah, who is to come'); NPNF reads it the same way. Stray marks in the digital text are corrected.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Elice → Eliae); OCR slip in the digital text (Joan- Des primo advenlui → Joannes primo adventui); OCR slip in the digital text (Nee → Nec); OCR slip in the digital text (auLon → autem); OCR slip in the digital text (cnim → enim); OCR slip in the digital text (codem → eodem); OCR slip in the digital text (crit → erit); OCR slip in the digital text (cst → est); OCR slip in the digital text (ct Ira­ beri → et haberi); OCR slip in the digital text (ct cognovcrit → et cognoverit); OCR slip in the digital text (cxcel­ lentiæ → excellentiae); OCR slip in the digital text (etvirtute → et virtute); OCR slip in the digital text (lallerc → fallere); OCR slip in the digital text (mcri­ lum → meritum); OCR slip in the digital text (nee → nec); OCR slip in the digital text (observatc → observate); OCR slip in the digital text (pcr → per); OCR slip in the digital text (pra'cone → praecone); OCR slip in the digital text (proprietatcm → proprietatem); OCR slip in the digital text (præco- Des → praecones); OCR slip in the digital text (vcl → vel); OCR slip in the digital text (vice Elias → vice Eliae)): Joannes, vcl potius → Joannes, vel potius; etvirtute → et virtute; Elice → Eliae; codem → eodem; vice Elias → vice Eliae; Joan- Des primo advenlui → Joannes primo adventui; auLon → autem; Elias. Nee Joannes → Elias. Nec Joannes; falsum: nee præco → falsum: nec præco; ct cognovcrit → et cognoverit; cnim → enim; mcri­ lum → meritum; lallerc → fallere; ct Ira­ beri → et haberi; cxcel­ lentiæ → excellentiae; observatc → observate; Ipse cst Joannes → Ipse est Joannes; venturus cst. → venturus est.; proprietatcm → proprietatem; Elias crit, → Elias erit,; Joannes, pcr similitudinem → Joannes, per similitudinem; præco- Des → praecones; pra'cone → praecone.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.6 (PL 35:1407–1409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.7PL 35:1409

Et interrogaverunt eum: Quid ergo? Elias es tu? Et dixit: Non. Et dixerunt ei: Propheta es tu? Et respondit: Non. Dixerunt ergo ei: Quis es tu? ut respon­ sum demus his qui miserunt nos. Quid dicis de teipso? Ait: Ego vox clamantis in deserto. Isaias illud dixit. In Joanne prophetia ista impleta est, Ego vox clamantis in deserto. Quid clamantis? Dirigite viam Domini, rectas facite semitas Dei nostri. Non vobis videtur præconis esse dicere, Exite, facite viam? Nisi quod præco Exite dicit: Joannes dicit, Venite. A ju­ dice repellit præco, ad judicem vocat Joannes. Imo vocat Joannes ad humilem, ne judex sentiatur excel­ sus. Ego vox clamantis in deserto, dirigite viam Domini, sicut dixit Isaias propheta. Non dixit, Ego sum Joannes, ego sum Elias, Ego sum propheta. Sed quid dixit? Hoc vocor, Vox clamantis in deserto, Dirigite viam Domino: ego sum ipsa prophetia.

"And they asked him, What then? Are you Elijah? And he said, No. And they said to him, Are you the prophet? And he answered, No. So they said to him, Who are you? so that we may give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say of yourself? He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness." Isaiah said that. In John this prophecy was fulfilled: "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness." Crying what? "Make straight the way of the Lord; make straight the paths of our God." Does it not seem to you the part of a herald to say, "Go out, make way"? Except that the herald says, "Go out," and John says, "Come." The herald drives people away from the judge; John calls them to the judge. Rather, John calls them to the lowly one, so that they may not experience the judge as exalted. "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as the prophet Isaiah said." He did not say, "I am John, I am Elijah, I am a prophet." But what did he say? "This is what I am called: 'The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way for the Lord': I am the prophecy itself."

John 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 40:3 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: John called himself 'the voice of one crying in the wilderness', the fulfilment of Isaiah's prophecy, a herald who calls people to the lowly Christ rather than driving them from the judge.

  • Quotations: John 1:21-23; Isa 40:3.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (facile semitas → facite semitas); OCR slip in the digital text (facile viam → facite viam); OCR slip in the digital text (miseruut noa → miserunt nos); OCR slip in the digital text (re­ spondit? → respondit:); OCR slip in the digital text (teipso i → teipso?)): re­ spondit? → respondit:; miseruut noa → miserunt nos; teipso i → teipso?; facile semitas → facite semitas; facile viam → facite viam.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.7 (PL 35:1409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.8PL 35:1409

Et qui missi fuerant, erant ex Pharisœis: id est, ex principibus Judæorum. Et interrogaverunt, et dixe­ runt ei: Quid ergo baptizas, si tu non es Christus, neque Elias, neque propheta? Quasi audaciæ videbatur esse baptizare, quasi, In qua persona? Quærimus utrum tu sis Christus; tu dicis te non esse: quærimus ne forte praecursor illius sis, quia novimus ante Christi adventum venturum esse Eliam; negas te esse: quæ­ rimus ne forte aliquis multum praeveniens præco es, id est propheta, et accepisti hanc potestatem; nec pro­ phetam te esse dicis. Et non erat propheta Joannes: major erat quam propheta. Dominus de illo tale testi­ monium dedit: Quid existis in desertum videre? Arun­ dinem vento agitari. Utique, Non vento agitari, sub­ audis; quia non hoc erat Joannes, quasi qui a vento moveretur: qui enim a vento movetur, circumflatur omni spiritu seductorio. Sed quid existis videre? Ho­ minem mollibus vestitum? Vestiebatur enim Joannes asperis, id est, tunica facta de pilis cameli. Ecce qui mollibus vestiuntur, in domibus regum sunt. Non ergo existis videre hominem mollibus vestitum. Sed quid existis videre? Prophetam? Ita dico vobis, major quam propheta hic: quia prophetae longe ante praenuntiaverunt, Joannes præsentem demon­ strabat.

"And those who had been sent were from the Pharisees," that is, from the leaders of the Jews. "And they asked him and said to him, Why then do you baptize, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?" It seemed to them an act of audacity to baptize, as if to say: in what capacity? "We ask whether you are the Christ; you say you are not. We ask whether perhaps you are his forerunner, because we know that Elijah is to come before the coming of Christ; you deny you are. We ask whether perhaps you are some herald going far ahead, that is, a prophet, and have received this power; nor do you say you are a prophet." And John was not a prophet: he was greater than a prophet. The Lord gave him such a testimony: "What did you go out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken by the wind?" Understand, of course, "not shaken by the wind"; for John was not that, as one moved by the wind: for he who is moved by the wind is blown about by every seductive spirit. "But what did you go out to see? A man clothed in soft garments?" For John was clothed in rough things, that is, a tunic made of camel's hair. "Look, those who wear soft garments are in kings' houses." So you did not go out to see a man clothed in soft garments. "But what did you go out to see? A prophet? Yes, I tell you, this man is greater than a prophet": because the prophets foretold him long before, while John pointed him out as present.

John 1:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 4:14 (allusion, low confidence)

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Summary: Asked why he baptized if he was neither Christ, Elijah, nor the prophet, John was in fact more than a prophet, as Christ testified, because he pointed out the Christ already present.

  • Quotations: John 1:24-25; Matt 11:7-9 (cf. Luke 7:24-26); allusions to Matt 3:4; Eph 4:14.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Joanpes → Joannes); OCR slip in the digital text (Vestiebalur → Vestiebatur); OCR slip in the digital text (anie → ante); OCR slip in the digital text (euim → enim); OCR slip in the digital text (praccursor → praecursor); OCR slip in the digital text (pranuntiaverunt → praenuntiaverunt); OCR slip in the digital text (vidcre → videre)): praccursor → praecursor; anie → ante; euim → enim; Vestiebalur → Vestiebatur; Joanpes → Joannes; vidcre → videre; pranuntiaverunt → praenuntiaverunt.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.8 (PL 35:1409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.9PL 35:1409

Quid ergo tu baptizas, si tu non es Christus, ne­ que Elias, neque propheta? Respondit eis Joannes, et dixit: Ego baptizo in aqua; medius autem vestrum stetit quem vos nescitis. Humilis enim non videbatur, et propterea lucerna accensa est. Videte quomodo dat locum, qui aliud posset putari. Ipse est qui post me venit, qui ante me factus est. Sicut jam diximus, id est, antepo­ situs est mihi. Cujus ego non sum dignus ut solvam corrigiam calceamenti ejus. Quantum se abjecit? Et ideo mul­ tum elevatus est; quoniam qui se humiliat, exaltabitur. Unde debet videre Sanctitas vestra, quia si Joannes sic se humiliavit, ut diceret, Non sum ego dignus corrigiam solvere; quomodo habent humiliari, qui dicunt: Nos baptizamus, nos quod damus nostrum est, et quod nostrum est, sanctum est. Ille dicit, Non ego, sed ille: illi dicunt, Nos. Non est dignus Joannes solvere corrigiam calceamenti ejus: quod si dignum se diceret, quam humilis esset? Et si dignum se diceret, et sic diceret, Ille venit post me, qui ante me factus est, cujus tantummodo corri­ giam calceamenti dignus sum solvere; multum se hu­ miliasset. Quando autem nec ad hoc dignum se dicit, vere plenus Spiritu sancto erat, qui sic servus Domi­ num agnovit, et ex servo amicus fieri meruit.

"Why then do you baptize, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet? John answered them and said, I baptize in water; but among you stands one whom you do not know." For being lowly he was not seen, and that is why the lamp was lit. See how he gives place, he who could have been thought something else. "He it is who comes after me, who was made before me" (as we have already said, that is, was placed before me), "the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie." How low he abased himself! And therefore he was greatly exalted, because he who humbles himself will be exalted. From this your Holiness ought to see that, if John so humbled himself as to say, "I am not worthy to untie the strap," how much those ought to be humbled who say, "We baptize; what we give is ours, and what is ours is holy." He says, "Not I, but he"; they say, "We." John is not worthy to untie the strap of his sandal; and if he had said he was worthy, how humble he would still have been! If he had said he was worthy and spoken thus, "He has come after me who was made before me, the strap of whose sandal I am worthy only to untie," he would have humbled himself greatly. But when he says he is not worthy even of this, truly he was full of the Holy Spirit, who as a servant so acknowledged his Lord and deserved to become a friend instead of a servant.

John 1:25 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 14:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:15 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: John's humility in declaring himself unworthy to untie Christ's sandal rebukes those who claim that the baptism they give is theirs and holy because they are holy.

  • Quotations: John 1:25-27; Luke 14:11; allusion to John 15:15. 'We baptize; what we give is ours' represents the Donatist claim that baptism depends on the holiness of the minister, which Augustine opposes; translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (bu­ miliari → humiliari); OCR slip in the digital text (calceamenli → calceamenti); OCR slip in the digital text (coni­ giam → corrigiam); OCR slip in the digital text (crat → erat); OCR slip in the digital text (ct ex → et ex); OCR slip in the digital text (dicerct → diceret); OCR slip in the digital text (nee → nec); OCR slip in the digital text (nps qnod → nos quod); OCR slip in the digital text (pro­ pterca → propterea); OCR slip in the digital text (sletit → stetit)): sletit → stetit; pro­ pterca → propterea; coni­ giam → corrigiam; bu­ miliari → humiliari; nps qnod → nos quod; calceamenli → calceamenti; dicerct → diceret; autem nee ad → autem nec ad; crat → erat; ct ex → et ex.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.9 (PL 35:1409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.10PL 35:1409

Haec in Bethania facta sunt trans Jordanem, ubi erat Joannes baptizans. Altera die vidit Joannes Jesum venientem ad se, et ait: Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccatum mundi. Nemo sibi arroget, et dicat quia ipse auferat peccatum mundi. Jam intendite, contra quos superbos intendebat digitum Joannes. Nondum erant nati haeretici, et jam ostendebantur: contra illos clamabat tunc a fluvio, contra quos modo clamat ex Evangelio. Venit Jesus; et quid dicit ille? Ecce Agnus Dei. Si agnus innocens, et Joannes agnus. An non et ipse innocens? Sed quis innocens? quantum innocens? Omnes ex illa traduce veniunt et ex illa pro­ pagine, de qua cantat gemens David: Ego in iniqui­ tate conceptus sum, et in peccatis mater mea in utero me aluit. Solus ergo ille Agnus, qui non sic venit. Non enim in iniquitate conceptus est; quia non de mortalitate conceptus est: nec eum in peccatis mater ejus in utero aluit, quem virgo con­ cepit, virgo peperit; quia fide concepit, et fide susce­ pit. Ergo ecce Agnus Dei. Non habet iste traducem de Adam: carnem tantum sumpsit de Adam, pecca­ tum non assumpsit. Qui non assumpsit de nostra massa peccatum, ipse est qui tollit nostrum peccatum. Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccatum mundi.

"These things were done in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing. The next day John saw Jesus coming to him and said, Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sin of the world." Let no one claim this for himself and say that he himself takes away the sin of the world. Now note against what proud men John pointed his finger. The heretics were not yet born, and already they were being pointed out: against them he cried out then from the river, against whom he now cries out from the Gospel. Jesus comes; and what does John say? "Behold the Lamb of God." If a lamb is innocent, John too is a lamb. Or was he not innocent himself? But who is innocent? How far innocent? All come from that inherited strain and from that stock of which David sings, groaning: "I was conceived in iniquity, and in sins my mother nourished me in the womb." He alone, then, is the Lamb, who did not come in this way. For he was not conceived in iniquity, because he was not conceived of mortality; nor did his mother nourish him in sins in the womb, he whom a virgin conceived and a virgin bore, because she conceived by faith and by faith received him. So, "behold the Lamb of God." He does not have the inherited strain from Adam: he took only flesh from Adam; he did not take on sin. He who took no sin from our lump, he it is who takes away our sin. "Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sin of the world."

John 1:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 51:5 (50:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ alone is the Lamb who takes away sin, because, born of a virgin, he took flesh from Adam without inheriting sin; no minister may claim to take away sin himself.

  • Quotations: John 1:28-29; Ps 51:5 (50:7 LXX/Vulg.). Augustine's remarks on the heretics who claim to take away sins point to the Donatists; translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Hœc in → Haec in); OCR slip in the digital text (ad set et → ad se, et); OCR slip in the digital text (canta! → cantat); OCR slip in the digital text (cla. mabat → clamabat); OCR slip in the digital text (in no­ cens → innocens); OCR slip in the digital text (peCcatum → peccatum)): Hœc in → Haec in; ad set et → ad se, et; peCcatum → peccatum; cla. mabat → clamabat; in no­ cens → innocens; canta! → cantat.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.10 (PL 35:1409; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.11PL 35:1409–1411

Nostis quia quidam homines dicunt aliquando: Nos tollimus peccata hominibus, qui sancti sumus: si enim non fuerit sanctus qui baptizat, quomodo tollit peccatum alterius, cum sit homo ipse plenus peccato? Contra istas disputationes verba nostra non dicamus, hunc legamus: Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccatum mundi. Non sit praesumptio hominibus in homines: non transmigret passer in montes, in Do­ mino confidat; et si levat oculos in mon­ tes, unde veniet auxilium ei, intelligat quia auxilium ejus a Domino, qui fecit caelum et terram. Tantae excellentiae Joannes, dicitur ei, Tu es Christus? Dicit, Non. Tu es Elias? Dicit, Non. Tu es propheta? Dicit, Non. Quare ergo baptizas? Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccatum mundi: hic est de quo dixi, Post me venit vir qui ante me factus est, quia prior me erat. Post me venit, quia posterius natus est: ante me factus est, quia prælatus est mihi: prior me erat, quia in principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum.

You know that certain men sometimes say, "We take away sins from men, because we are holy"; for if he who baptizes is not holy, how does he take away another's sin, when he himself is a man full of sin? Against these arguments let us not speak our own words; let us read this: "Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sin of the world." Let men not put their confidence in men; let not the sparrow migrate to the mountains, but let it trust in the Lord; and if it lifts its eyes to the mountains, from where help will come to it, let it understand that its help is from the Lord, who made heaven and earth. John, of such great excellence, is asked, "Are you the Christ?" He says, "No." "Are you Elijah?" He says, "No." "Are you the prophet?" He says, "No." "Why then do you baptize?" "Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me comes a man who was made before me, because he was prior to me." "After me comes," because he was born later; "was made before me," because he was set above me; "he was prior to me," because "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

John 1:29 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 11:1 (10:1 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 121:1 (120:1 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 121:2 (120:2 LXX) (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against those who claim that the minister's holiness takes away sin, Augustine points to John's words: Christ alone, the eternal Word, is the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world.

  • Quotations: John 1:29-30; John 1:1; allusions to Ps 11:1 (10:1 LXX/Vulg.) and Ps 121:1-2 (120:1-2). The view rejected is that of the Donatists; translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (aliquando; → aliquando:); OCR slip in the digital text (ct si → et si); OCR slip in the digital text (eat → est); OCR slip in the digital text (qnia → quia)): aliquando; → aliquando:; ct si → et si; hic eat de → hic est de; qnia → quia.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.11 (PL 35:1409–1411; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.12PL 35:1411

Et ego nesciebam eum, dixit: sed ut manife­ staretur Israeli, propterea veni ego in aqua baptizans. Et testimonium perhibuit Joannes, dicens, Quia vidi Spiritum de coelo descendentem quasi columbam, et mansit super eum: et ego nesciebam eum, sed qui me misit baptizare in aqua, ille mihi dixit, Super quem videris Spiritum descendentem et manentem super eum, hic est qui baptizat in Spiritu sancto: et ego vidi, et testimonium perhibui quia hic est Filius Dei. Intendat modicum Charitas vestra: Joannes quando didicit Christum? Missus est enim ut baptizaret in aqua. Quæsitum est quare? Ut manifestaretur Israeli, dixit. Quid profuit baptismus Joannis? Fra­ tres mei, si profuit aliquid, et modo maneret, et baptizarentur homines baptismo Joannis; et sic ve­ nirent ad baptismum Christi. Sed quid ait? Ut mani­ festaretur Israeli: id est, ipsi Israel, populo Israel ut manifestaretur Christus, venit baptizare in aqua. Ac­ cepit ministerium baptismatis Joannes, in aqua paenitentiae parare viam Domino, non existente Dominus: at ubi cognitus est Dominus, superflue ei via paraba­ tur; quia cognoscentibus se ipse factus est via: ita­ que non duravit diu baptismus Joannis. Sed quomodo demonstratus est Dominus? Humilis; ut ideo acciperet baptisma Joannes, in quo baptizaretur ipse Dominus.

"And I did not know him," he said, "but so that he might be made manifest to Israel, that is why I came baptizing in water. And John bore witness, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it remained upon him; and I did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize in water said to me, He on whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon him, this is he who baptizes in the Holy Spirit. And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God." Let your Charity attend a little: when did John learn of Christ? For he was sent to baptize in water. It was asked, why? "So that he might be made manifest to Israel," he said. What did the baptism of John profit? My brothers, if it profited anything, it would still remain, and men would be baptized with the baptism of John and so come to the baptism of Christ. But what does he say? "So that he might be made manifest to Israel": that is, he came to baptize in water so that Christ might be made manifest to Israel itself, to the people of Israel. John received the ministry of baptism, to prepare the way for the Lord in the water of repentance while the Lord was not yet apparent; but once the Lord was known, it was superfluous to prepare a way for him, because to those who know him he himself became the way. And so the baptism of John did not last long. But how was the Lord shown? As lowly; so that John received a baptism precisely in order that the Lord himself might be baptized with it.

John 1:31 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:33 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:34 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John's baptism served only to make Christ manifest to Israel, especially by Christ's own humble submission to it; once he was known, it ceased.

  • Quotations: John 1:31-34; allusion to John 14:6. Stray quotation marks and an asterisk in the digital text are removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Filius * Dei. > → Filius Dei.); OCR slip in the digital text (baptiza­ reL → baptizaret); OCR slip in the digital text (existeus → existente); OCR slip in the digital text (nesciebanJ cum → nesciebam eum); OCR slip in the digital text (peeni­ tentiæ → paenitentiae); OCR slip in the digital text (quasi, columbam → quasi columbam); OCR slip in the digital text (qucin → quem); OCR slip in the digital text (superfluo → superflue); OCR slip in the digital text (v idi → vidi); OCR slip in the digital text (« Et ego nesciebam eutn → Et ego nesciebam eum)): « Et ego nesciebam eutn → Et ego nesciebam eum; quasi, columbam → quasi columbam; nesciebanJ cum → nesciebam eum; qucin → quem; v idi → vidi; Filius * Dei. > → Filius Dei.; baptiza­ reL → baptizaret; peeni­ tentiæ → paenitentiae; existeus → existente; superfluo → superflue.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.12 (PL 35:1411; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.13PL 35:1411

Et opus erat Domino baptizari? Et ego inter­ rogans cito respondeo: Opus erat Domino nasci? opus erat Domino crucifigi? opus erat Domino mori? opus erat Domino sepeliri? Si ergo tantam suscepit pro nobis humilitatem, baptismum non erat susceptu­ rus? Et quid profuit quia suscepit baptismum servi? Ut tu non dedignareris suscipere baptismum Domini. Intendat Charitas vestra. Futuri erant aliqui in Eccle­ sia excelsioris gratiæ catechumeni. Fit enim ali­ quando ut videas catechumenum abstinentem ab omni concubitu, valefacientem sæculo, renuntiantem omni­ bus quæ possidebat, distribuentem pauperibus; et catechumenus est, instructus etiam forte doctrina sa­ lutari supra multos fideles. Timendum est huic ne dicat apud semetipsum de Baptismate sancto quo peccata dimittantur: Quid plus accepturus sum? Ecce ego melior sum illo fideli et illo fideli: cogitans fideles aut conjugatos, aut forte idiotas, aut habentes et possidentes res suas, quas ipse distribuit jam pau­ peribus, et meliorem se esse arbitrans quam ille qui jam baptizatus est, dedignetur venire ad Baptismum, dicens, Hoc sum accepturus quod habet ille et ille; et proponat sibi illos quos contemnit, et quasi sor­ deat illi hoc accipere quod acceperunt inferiores, quia jam videtur ipse sibi melior: et tamen omnia peccata super illum sunt, et nisi venerit ad salutarem Ba­ ptismum, ubi peccata solvuntur, cum omni excellentia sua non potest intrare in regnum coelorum. Sed ut illam excellentiam invitaret Dominus ad baptismum suum, ut peccata illi dimitterentur, venit ipse ad ba­ ptismum servi sui; et cum ipse non haberet quod ei dimitteretur, nec quod in illo lavaretur, suscepit a servo baptismum; et tanquam allocutus est filium superbientem et extollentem se, ac dedignantem forte accipere cum idiotis unde ei possit salus venire, et quasi dicens: Quantum te extendis? quantum extol­ lis? quanta est excellentia tua? quanta gratia tua? major potest esse quam mea? si ego veni ad servum, tu dedignaris venire ad Dominum? si ego suscepi baptismum servi, tu dedignaris a Domino baptizari?

Was there need for the Lord to be baptized? I answer the questioner quickly with questions: Was there need for the Lord to be born? Was there need for the Lord to be crucified? Was there need for the Lord to die? Was there need for the Lord to be buried? If, then, he took on such great humility for us, was he not to take on baptism? And what did it profit that he received the baptism of a servant? That you might not disdain to receive the baptism of the Lord. Let your Charity attend. There were to be in the Church some catechumens of more exalted grace. For it sometimes happens that you see a catechumen abstaining from all sexual intercourse, bidding farewell to the world, renouncing everything he possessed, distributing it to the poor; and he is a catechumen, perhaps even better instructed in saving doctrine than many of the faithful. It is to be feared that such a man may say within himself about holy baptism, in which sins are forgiven, "What more am I going to receive? Look, I am better than this believer and that believer" (thinking of believers who are married, or perhaps uneducated, or who have and keep their own property, which he has already distributed to the poor); and, judging himself better than one who has already been baptized, may disdain to come to baptism, saying, "I am going to receive what this one and that one have"; and may set before himself those whom he despises, and as it were think it beneath him to receive what inferiors have received, because he seems to himself better. And yet all his sins are upon him, and unless he comes to saving baptism, where sins are loosed, with all his excellence he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. But in order to invite that excellence to his baptism, so that its sins might be forgiven, the Lord himself came to the baptism of his servant; and though he had nothing to be forgiven, nothing to be washed away in him, he received baptism from a servant. And it is as if he addressed a son who was proud and exalting himself and perhaps disdaining to receive, together with the uneducated, that from which salvation could come to him, and as if he said: "How far do you stretch yourself? How high do you exalt yourself? How great is your excellence? How great your grace? Can it be greater than mine? If I came to a servant, do you disdain to come to the Lord? If I received the baptism of a servant, do you disdain to be baptized by the Lord?"

John 3:5 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ received a servant's baptism so that no proud catechumen, however ascetic, should disdain to receive the Lord's baptism, without which his sins remain.

  • Catechumens were those under instruction who had not yet been baptized; the faithful (fideles) were the baptized. Allusion: John 3:5.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (ci possit → ei possit); OCR slip in the digital text (crat → erat); OCR slip in the digital text (eniin → enim); OCR slip in the digital text (extEndis → extendis); OCR slip in the digital text (in ilo → in illo); OCR slip in the digital text (inultos → multos); OCR slip in the digital text (quanja cst cxcellentia → quanta est excellentia); OCR slip in the digital text (rt cum → et cum); OCR slip in the digital text (torte → forte)): crat → erat; eniin → enim; inultos → multos; rt cum → et cum; in ilo → in illo; torte → forte; ci possit → ei possit; extEndis → extendis; quanja cst cxcellentia → quanta est excellentia.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.13 (PL 35:1411; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.14PL 35:1411

Nam ut noveritis, fratres mei, quia non ex ne­ cessitate alicujus vinculi peccati Dominus veniebat ad ipsum Joannem; sicut dicunt alii evangelistæ, cum ad illum veniret baptizandus Dominus, ait ipse Joannes: Tu ad me venis? ego a te debeo baptizari. Et quid ei ipse respondit? Sine modo; impleatur omnis justitia. Quid est, impleatur omnis justitia? Mori veni pro hominibus, baptizari non habeo pro hominibus? Quid est, impleatur omnis justi­ tia? Impleatur omnis humilitas. Quid ergo? non erat suscepturus baptismum a bono servo, qui passionem suscepit a servis malis? Intendite ergo. Baptizato Domino, si propterea baptizavit Joannes, ut in ejus baptismo Dominus ostenderet humilitatem, nemo alius baptizaretur baptismo Joannis? Multi autem baptizati sunt baptismo Joannis; baptizatus est Do­ minus baptismo Joannis, et cessavit baptismus Joan­ nis: inde jam missus est in carcerem Joannes; dein­ ceps nemo baptizatus invenitur illo baptismate. Si ergo propterea venit et Joannes baptizans, ut Domini humilitas nobis demonstraretur, ut quia ille suscepit a servo, nos non dedignaremur suscipere a Domino; Dominum solum Joannes baptizaret? Sed si solum Dominum Joannes baptizaret, non deessent qui puta­ rent sanctius fuisse baptisma Joannis quam Christi: quasi baptismate Joannis solus Christus meruisset baptizari, baptismate autem Christi genus humanum. Intendat Charitas vestra. Baptismate Christi baptizati sumus, non tantum nos, sed et universus orbis ter­ rarum, et baptizator usque in finem. Quis nostrum potest ex aliqua parte comparari Christo, cujus se Joannes dixit indignum solvere corrigiam calcea­ menti? Si ergo ille Christus tantæ excellentiae homo Deus, solus baptizaretur baptismo Joannis, quid dicturi erant homines? Qualem baptismum ha­ buit Joannes? Magnum baptismum habuit, ineffa­ bile sacramentum: vide, quia solus Christus me­ ruit baptizari Joannis baptismo. Atque ita major videretur baptismus servi, quam baptismus Domini. Baptizati sunt et alii baptismo Joannis, ne melior baptismus videretur Joannis quam Christi; baptizatus autem et Dominus, ut Domino suscipiente baptismum servi, non dedignarentur alii servi suscipere baptismum Domini: ad hoc ergo missus erat Joannes.

For so that you may know, my brothers, that the Lord did not come to John himself out of necessity, because of any bond of sin: as the other evangelists say, when the Lord came to him to be baptized, John himself said, "Do you come to me? I ought to be baptized by you." And what did he answer him? "Let it be so now; let all righteousness be fulfilled." What does "let all righteousness be fulfilled" mean? "I came to die for men; am I not to be baptized for men?" What does "let all righteousness be fulfilled" mean? Let all humility be fulfilled. What then? Was he who accepted his passion from bad servants not to accept baptism from a good servant? Attend, then. When the Lord had been baptized, if John baptized for this reason, that in his baptism the Lord might show humility, was no one else to be baptized with the baptism of John? But many were baptized with the baptism of John; the Lord was baptized with the baptism of John, and the baptism of John ceased. From then on John was put in prison; thereafter no one is found baptized with that baptism. If, then, John too came baptizing for this reason, that the Lord's humility might be shown to us, so that, since he received from a servant, we might not disdain to receive from the Lord, should John have baptized the Lord alone? But if John had baptized the Lord alone, there would not have been lacking those who thought that the baptism of John was holier than that of Christ, as if Christ alone had deserved to be baptized with the baptism of John, while the human race was baptized with the baptism of Christ. Let your Charity attend. We have been baptized with the baptism of Christ, not only we but the whole world, and it will be administered until the end. Which of us can in any respect be compared with Christ, whose sandal strap John said he was unworthy to untie? If, then, that Christ, a man of such excellence, God, had alone been baptized with the baptism of John, what would men have said? "What a baptism John had! He had a great baptism, an ineffable sacrament: see, Christ alone deserved to be baptized with the baptism of John." And so the baptism of the servant would have seemed greater than the baptism of the Lord. Others too were baptized with the baptism of John, so that the baptism of John might not seem better than that of Christ; and the Lord too was baptized, so that, since the Lord received the baptism of a servant, other servants might not disdain to receive the baptism of the Lord. This is why John was sent.

Matt 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 4:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:27 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John baptized others besides Christ, and then his baptism ceased, so that it should not seem holier than Christ's baptism, which the whole world receives.

  • Quotations: Matt 3:14-15; allusions to Matt 4:12; John 1:27. 'And it will be administered until the end' renders baptizator usque in finem, read as baptizatur (uncertain).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Demo → nemo); OCR slip in the digital text (Qttalem → Qualem); OCR slip in the digital text (dedignarcmur → dedignaremur); OCR slip in the digital text (humilitalcm → humilitatem); OCR slip in the digital text (ipso Joannes → ipse Joannes); OCR slip in the digital text (missue → missus)): ipso Joannes → ipse Joannes; humilitalcm → humilitatem; missue → missus; Demo → nemo; dedignarcmur → dedignaremur; Qttalem → Qualem.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.14 (PL 35:1411; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.15PL 35:1411–1413

Sed noverat Christum, an non noverat? Si non noverat, quare dicebat quando venit ad fluvium Christus: Ego a te debeo baptizari? hoc est, Scio qui sis. Si ergo jam noverat, certe tunc cognovit quando vidit columbam descendentem. Manifestum est quia columba non descendit super Dominum, nisi postea­ quam ascendit ab aqua baptismi. Dominus baptizatus ascendit ab aqua, aperti sunt cœli, et vidit super eum columbam. Si ergo post baptismum descendit co­ lumba, et antequam baptizaretur Dominus, dixit illi Joannes, Tu ad me venis? ego a te debeo baptizari? ante, illum noverat, cui dixit, Tu ad me venis? ego a te debeo baptizari? quomodo ergo dixit, Et ego ne­ sciebam eum; sed qui me misit baptizare in aqua, ille mihi dixit, Super quem videris Spiritum descen­ dentem sicut columbam, et manentem super eum, ipse est qui baptizat in Spiritu sancto? Non parva quaestio est, fratres mei. Si vidistis quæstionem, non parum vidistis: superest ut ipsius solutionem Domi­ nus det. Tamen illud dico, si vidistis quaestionem, non est parum. Ecce positus est Joannes ante oculos vestros, stans ad fluvium Joannes Baptista; ecce venit Dominus adhuc baptizandus, nondum baptizatus: audi vocem Joannis, Tu ad me venis? ego a te debeo baptizari; ecce jam cognoscit Dominum, a quo vult baptizari. Baptizatus Dominus ascendit ab aqua, ape­ riuntur cœli, descendit Spiritus, modo illum cognoscit Joannes: si modo illum cognoscit, quid dixit antea, Ego a te debeo baptizari? Si autem non eum modo cognoscit, quia jam noverat eum, quid est quod dixit, Non noveram eum; sed qui me misit bapti­ zare in aqua, ille mihi dixit, Super quem videris Spiritum descendentem, et manentem super eum sicut Columbam, ipse est qui baptizat in Spiritu sancto?

But did he know Christ or did he not? If he did not know him, why did he say when Christ came to the river, "I ought to be baptized by you," that is, "I know who you are"? If, then, he already knew him, surely he came to know him then, when he saw the dove descending? It is clear that the dove did not descend upon the Lord until after he had come up from the water of baptism. The Lord, baptized, came up from the water, the heavens were opened, and he saw the dove upon him. If, then, the dove descended after the baptism, and before the Lord was baptized John said to him, "Do you come to me? I ought to be baptized by you," he knew beforehand the one to whom he said, "Do you come to me? I ought to be baptized by you." How then did he say, "And I did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize in water said to me, He on whom you see the Spirit descending like a dove and remaining upon him, he it is who baptizes in the Holy Spirit"? It is no small question, my brothers. If you have seen the question, you have seen no small thing: it remains for the Lord to grant its solution. Still, I say this: if you have seen the question, it is no small thing. See, John is set before your eyes, John the Baptist standing at the river; see, the Lord comes, still to be baptized, not yet baptized. Hear the voice of John: "Do you come to me? I ought to be baptized by you." See, he already knows the Lord, by whom he wishes to be baptized. The Lord, baptized, comes up from the water, the heavens are opened, the Spirit descends: now John knows him. If he knows him only now, why did he say before, "I ought to be baptized by you"? But if he does not come to know him only now, because he already knew him, what is it that he said: "I did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize in water said to me, He on whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon him like a dove, he it is who baptizes in the Holy Spirit"?

Matt 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:16 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:33 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine poses a problem: John recognized Jesus before his baptism, yet says he did not know him until he saw the Spirit descend after it.

  • Quotations: Matt 3:14, 16; John 1:33. Stray quotation marks in the digital text are removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Spirito sancto? > → Spiritu sancto?); OCR slip in the digital text (ascenditab → ascendit ab); OCR slip in the digital text (au non → an non); OCR slip in the digital text (baptiLarctur → baptizaretur); OCR slip in the digital text (cogno­ scil → cognoscit); OCR slip in the digital text (dixit, < Non → dixit, Non); OCR slip in the digital text (eat → est); OCR slip in the digital text (jain → jam); OCR slip in the digital text (milii → mihi); OCR slip in the digital text (ocntos → oculos); OCR slip in the digital text (sancto? > Non parvaquæstio → sancto? Non parva quaestio); OCR slip in the digital text (saper → super); OCR slip in the digital text (soperesL → superest); OCR slip in the digital text (super cum → super eum); OCR slip in the digital text (« Et ego → Et ego)): au non → an non; Manifestum eat quia → Manifestum est quia; ascenditab → ascendit ab; super cum → super eum; baptiLarctur → baptizaretur; « Et ego → Et ego; milii → mihi; sancto? > Non parvaquæstio → sancto? Non parva quaestio; soperesL → superest; ocntos → oculos; cogno­ scil → cognoscit; jain → jam; dixit, < Non → dixit, Non; saper → super; Spirito sancto? > → Spiritu sancto?.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.15 (PL 35:1411–1413; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.

4.16PL 35:1413

Fratres, ista quæstio si hodie solvatur, gravat vos, non dubito, quia jam multa dicta sunt. Sciatis autem talem istam quæstionem esse, ut haec sola per­ imat partem Donati. Ad hoc dixi Charitati vestræ, ut intentos vos facerem, similiter ut soleo; simul ut ore­ tis pro nobis et vobis, ut et nobis det Dominus digna loqui, et vos digna capere mereamini. Interim hodie dignamini differre. Sed hoc breviter dico interim, do­ nec solvatur: interrogate pacifice, sine rixa, sine con­ tentione, sine altercationibus, sine inimicitiis; et vo­ biscum quærite, et alios interrogate, et dicite, Hanc quaestionem proposuit nobis hodie episcopus noster, aliquando si Dominus concesserit, soluturus eam. Sed sive solvatur sive non solvatur, putate me proposuisse quod me movet: moveor enim multum. Dicit Joannes, Ego a te debeo baptizari; tanquam Christo cognito. Si enim non noverat eum a quo volebat baptizari, temere dicebat, Ego a te debeo baptizari. Noverat ergo eum. Si noverat eum, quid est ergo quod dicit, Non noveram eum; sed qui me misit baptizare in aqua, ipse mihi dixit, Super quem videris Spiritum descendentem et manentem super eum, sicut columbam, ipse est qui baptizat in Spiritu sancto? Quid dicturi sumus? Quia non scimus quando venerit columba? Ne forte ibi la­ teant, legantur alii evangelistæ, qui planius illud dixerunt: et invenimus apertissime tunc descendisse columbam, cum Dominus ab aqua ascendit. Super baptizatum enim aperti sunt cæli, et vidit Spiritum descendentem. Si jam baptizatum cognovit, venienti ad baptisma quomodo dicit, Ego a te debeo baptizari? Hanc vobiscum interim ruminate, hanc vobiscum conferte, hanc vobiscum tractate. Præstet Dominus Deus noster ut antequam me audiatis, alicui vestrum priori eam revelet. Tamen, fratres, hoc sciatis, quia per istius quæstionis solutionem, vocem pars Donati de Baptismi gratia, ubi nebulas obtendunt imperitis, et retia tendunt avibus volantibus, si frontem ha­ beant, omnino non habebant: omnino eorum ora claudentur.

Brothers, if this question were solved today, it would burden you, I do not doubt, since much has already been said. But know that this question is such that it alone destroys the party of Donatus. I have said this to your Charity to make you attentive, as I usually do, and at the same time so that you may pray for us and for yourselves, that the Lord may grant us to speak worthily and you may deserve to grasp worthily. Meanwhile, be good enough to postpone it today. But this I say briefly in the meantime, until it is solved: inquire peaceably, without quarreling, without contention, without disputes, without enmity; both seek among yourselves and ask others, and say, "Our bishop put this question to us today, and some time, if the Lord grants it, he will solve it." But whether it is solved or not, consider that I have put forward what moves me; for I am much moved. John says, "I ought to be baptized by you," as if Christ were known. For if he did not know the one by whom he wished to be baptized, it was rash of him to say, "I ought to be baptized by you." So he knew him. If he knew him, what is it, then, that he says: "I did not know him; but he who sent me to baptize in water said to me, He on whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon him like a dove, he it is who baptizes in the Holy Spirit"? What shall we say? That we do not know when the dove came? Lest perhaps they take refuge there, let the other evangelists be read, who said it more plainly; and we find most clearly that the dove descended at the moment when the Lord came up from the water. For the heavens were opened over him after he was baptized, and he saw the Spirit descending. If he came to know him only after he was baptized, how does he say to him as he comes to baptism, "I ought to be baptized by you"? Meanwhile, chew this over among yourselves, confer about it among yourselves, discuss it among yourselves. May the Lord our God grant that before you hear me, he may reveal it first to one of you. Yet, brothers, know this: that through the solution of this question, the party of Donatus, which spreads mists before the unlearned concerning the grace of baptism and stretches nets for birds in flight, will, if they have any shame, have no voice left at all: their mouths will be utterly shut.

Matt 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 3:16 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine leaves the question unsolved for now, asking his hearers to discuss it peaceably, and promises that its solution will silence the Donatists' arguments about baptism.

  • Quotations: Matt 3:14; John 1:33; allusion to Matt 3:16. The 'party of Donatus' is the Donatist church; Augustine's polemic is translated as written. The last sentence of the digital text is ungrammatical ('vocem ... non habebant') and is translated by sense. A stray asterisk after 'lateant' is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip in the digital text (Joan- Des → Joannes); OCR slip in the digital text (Spirilu → Spiritu); OCR slip in the digital text (antequama → antequam); OCR slip in the digital text (boc breviter dico inierim → hoc breviter dico interim); OCR slip in the digital text (cogn!­ to → cognito); OCR slip in the digital text (ct vos → et vos); OCR slip in the digital text (eat → est); OCR slip in the digital text (movcor → moveor); OCR slip in the digital text (nohis → nobis); OCR slip in the digital text (qnia → quia); OCR slip in the digital text (revclet → revelet); OCR slip in the digital text (suut → sunt); OCR slip in the digital text (teant *, → teant,)): nohis → nobis; ct vos → et vos; boc breviter dico inierim → hoc breviter dico interim; movcor → moveor; Joan- Des → Joannes; cogn!­ to → cognito; ipse eat qui → ipse est qui; Spirilu → Spiritu; teant *, → teant,; suut → sunt; antequama → antequam; revclet → revelet; qnia → quia.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 4.16 (PL 35:1413; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/3-21/#p-4-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.