Tractates on the Gospel of John 104.1–105.8

Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).

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Chapter 104

104.1PL 35:1901

Ante ista quæ nunc sumus adjuvante Domino tractaturi, dixerat Jesus, Hæc locutus sum vobis, ut in me pacem habeatis: quæ non recentiora paulo supe­ rius ab eo dicta, sed omnia debemus accipere, sive quæcumque illis locutus est ex quo eos cœpit habere discipulos, sive certe ex quo post coenam exorsus est hanc admirabilem prolixumque sermonem. Talem quippe commemoravit causam cur eis sit locutus, ut ad eum finem rectissime referantur vel omnia quæ locutus est eis, vel ea maxime quæ dixit jam pro eis moriturus, tanquam verba novissima, posteaquam de convivio sancto ille qui eum fuerat traditurus, egressus est. Hanc enim commendavit causam sermonis sui; ut in illo pacem haberent, propter quod totum agitur quod christiani sumus. Hæc enim pax finem temporis non habebit, sed omnis piae nostræ intentio­ nis actionisque finis ipsa erit. Propter hanc Sacramen­ tis ejus imbuimur, propter hanc mirabilibus ejus ope­ ribus et sermonibus erudimur, propter hanc Spiritus ejus pignus accepimus, propter hanc in eum credi­ mus et speramus, et ejus amore quantum donat ac­ cendimur: hac pace in pressuris omnibus consolamur, hac a pressuris omnibus liberamur: propter hanc omnem tribulationem fortiter sustinemus, ut in hac feliciter sine ulla tribulatione regnemus. Merito ad eam clausit verba, quae parum intelligentibus discipulis erant proverbia; intellecturis ea quando eis de­ disset promissum Spiritum sanctum, de quo superius ait: « Haec locutus sum vobis, apud vos manens. Pa­ racletus autem Spiritus sanctus, quem mittet Pater in nomine meo, ille vos docebit omnia, et suggeret vobis omnia quæcumque dixero vobis ». Hæc nimirum futura fuerat illa hora, qua se promiserat non jam in proverbiis locuturum, sed pa­ lam de Patre annuntiaturum. Eadem quippe ipsius verba, revelante Spiritu sancto, intelligentibus jam non erant futura proverbia. Neque enim loquente in eorum cordibus Spiritu sancto, taciturus erat unige­ nitus Filius, qui dixit in ea hora palam se illis an­ nuntiaturum esse de Patre, quod eis utique jam intel­ ligentibus non esset proverbium. Sed hoc quoque ipsum, quomodo simul loquantur in suorum spiritua­lium cordibus et Dei Filius et Spiritus sanctus, imo ipsa Trinitas quae inseparabiliter operatur, intelligen­ tibus est verbum, non intelligentibus autem proverbium.

Before the words we are now about to treat, with the Lord's help, Jesus had said, "These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace." We should take these words as referring not only to what he had said a little earlier, but to everything: either all he said to them from the time he began to have them as disciples, or certainly from the time, after supper, when he began this wonderful and long discourse. For he mentioned this as the reason why he had spoken to them, so that to this end may most rightly be referred either all that he spoke to them, or above all what he said as one now about to die for them, as his last words, after the one who was to betray him had gone out from the holy banquet. For he commended this as the reason for his discourse: that they might have peace in him, for whose sake everything is done that makes us Christians. For this peace will have no end in time, but will itself be the end of all our devout intention and action. For its sake we are imbued with his sacraments; for its sake we are instructed by his wonderful works and words; for its sake we have received the pledge of his Spirit; for its sake we believe and hope in him and are kindled with love of him as far as he grants. By this peace we are consoled in all tribulations; by it we are freed from all tribulations; for its sake we bravely endure every tribulation, so that in it we may reign happily without any tribulation. Rightly did he close with it the words which were proverbs to the disciples, who understood little, but who would understand them when he had given them the promised Holy Spirit, of whom he said above: "These things I have spoken to you while remaining with you. But the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." This, surely, was to be that hour in which he had promised that he would no longer speak in proverbs but would tell them plainly about the Father. For these same words of his, when the Holy Spirit revealed them, would no longer be proverbs to those who now understood. Nor, when the Holy Spirit spoke in their hearts, would the only-begotten Son be silent, who said that in that hour he would tell them plainly about the Father, which certainly would not be a proverb to those who now understood. But this too, how the Son of God and the Holy Spirit, or rather the Trinity itself which works inseparably, speak together in the hearts of their spiritual ones, is a plain word to those who understand, but a proverb to those who do not.

John 16:33 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:30 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:25 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:25 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Christ's whole discourse aimed at the disciples' peace in him, the end of all Christian life; the Spirit would make his proverbs plain to them.

  • John 16:33 and 14:25–26 are quoted; John 13:30 and 16:25 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (broken word); OCR slip (joined words)): ista quoe nunc → ista quæ nunc; iHis locutus → illis locutus; babere discipulos → habere discipulos; Tatem quippe → Talem quippe; cur cis sit → cur eis sit; fincm rectissime rcferantur vet omnia → finem rectissime referantur vel omnia; qaæ dixit → quæ dixit; fucrat traditurus, egres- - sus est → fuerat traditurus, egressus est; propter qnod → propter quod; actionisquc → actionisque; hancSacramen → hanc Sacramen; ejas ope → ejus ope; sinc ulla → sine ulla; ad cam clausit → ad eam clausit; discipolis → discipulis; locutus sam vobis → locutus sum vobis; sanctas, quem → sanctus, quem; nomine mee ine vos → nomine meo, ille vos; dixere vobis ». Hæc nitnirum fetura fuerat illa bon, qua se promiserat non jam in proverbiis locututum → dixero vobis ». Hæc nimirum futura fuerat illa hora, qua se promiserat non jam in proverbiis locuturum; verba; revelante Spiritu saneto → verba, revelante Spiritu sancto; in eorem cordibus → in eorum cordibus; tacituras erat → taciturus erat; qni dixit in ea hora podam se iNis → qui dixit in ea hora palam se illis; quod cis utique → quod eis utique; Sed boc quoque → Sed hoc quoque; , llum cordibus → lium cordibus; Spiritus sanatus → Spiritus sanctus; estverbum, non inteHigentibus → est verbum, non intelligentibus.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 104.1 (PL 35:1901; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-104-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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104.2PL 35:1901–1903

Cum ergo dixisset propter quid omnia sit locu­ tus, ut in illo scilicet pacem haberent, in mundo ha­ bentes pressuram, exhortatusque fuisset ut confide­ rent, quia ipse vicit mundum; eo qui erat ad illos sermone finito, deinde ad Patrem verbo direxit, et orare jam cœpit. Sic enim Evangelista sequitur, di­ cens: Hæc locutus est Jesus, et sublevatis oculis in cœ­ lum dixit: Pater, venit hora, clarifica Filium tuum. Poterat Dominus Unigenitus et coæternus Patri in forma servi et ex forma servi, si hoc opus es­ set, orare silentio; sed ita se Patri exhibere voluit precatorem, ut meminisset nostrum se esse docto­ rem. Proinde eam quam fecit orationem pro no­ bis, notam fecit et nobis; quoniam tanti magistri non solum ad ipsos sermocinatio, sed etiam pro ipsis ad Patrem oratio, discipulorum est aedificatio. Et si illorum qui haec dicta aderant audituri, profe­ cto et nostra qui fueramus conscripta lecturi. Qua­ propter hoc quod ait, Pater, venit hora, clarifica Fi­ lium tuum, ostendit omne tempus, et quid quando faceret vel fieri sineret, ab illo esse dispositum qui tempori subditus non est; quOniam quae futura erant per singula tempora, in Dei sapientia causas efficien­ tes habent, in qua nulla sunt tempora. Non ergo cre­ datur hæc hora fato urgente venisse, sed Deo potius ordinante. Nec siderea necessitas Christi connexuit passionem: absit enim ut sidera mori cogerent side­ rum conditorem. Non itaque Christum tempus ut moreretur impegit, sed tempus Christus quo moreretur elegit: qui etiam tempus quo de Virgine natus est, cum Patre constituit, de quo sine tempore natus est. Secundum quam veram sanamque doctrinam, etiam Paulus apostolus. «Cum autem venit, » inquit, ple­ nitudo temporis, misit Deus Filium suum »; et Deus per Prophetam, « Tempore, > ait, «ac­ ceptabili exaudivi te, et in die salutis adjuvi te >; et rursus Apostolus, « Ecce nunc tempus acceptabile, ecce nunc dies salutis >. Dicat ergo, Pater, venit hora, qui cum Patre dispo­ suit omnes horas: tanquam dicens, Pater, quam propter homines et apud homines ad me clarifican­ dum simul constituimus, venit hora, clarifica Filium tuum, ut et Filius tuus clarificet te.

When, then, he had said why he had spoken all these things, namely so that they might have peace in him while having tribulation in the world, and had exhorted them to take courage because he had overcome the world, he finished the discourse addressed to them, then turned his words to the Father and began to pray. For the evangelist continues: "These things Jesus spoke, and lifting up his eyes to heaven he said: Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son." The Lord, the Only-begotten, coeternal with the Father, could, in the form of a servant and from the form of a servant, have prayed in silence if there had been need; but he wished to show himself to the Father as one who prays in such a way as to remember that he is our teacher. Therefore he made the prayer which he made for us known to us as well; since, coming from so great a master, not only his discourse to the disciples but also his prayer to the Father for them is the disciples' edification. And if it is for the edification of those who were present to hear these words spoken, surely it is also for ours who were to read them written. Therefore his saying, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son," shows that all time, and what he would do or allow to be done and when, was arranged by him who is not subject to time; since things that were to come at their particular times have their efficient causes in the wisdom of God, in which there are no times. So let it not be believed that this hour came under the pressure of fate, but rather by God's ordering. Nor did any necessity of the stars bind Christ to his passion: far be it that the stars should compel the maker of the stars to die. So it was not time that drove Christ to die, but Christ who chose the time to die; he who also, together with the Father, of whom he was born apart from time, fixed the time when he was born of the Virgin. In accordance with this true and sound doctrine, the apostle Paul too says, "But when the fullness of time came, God sent his Son"; and God says through the prophet, "In an acceptable time I have heard you, and in a day of salvation I have helped you"; and again the Apostle, "Behold, now is the acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation." Let him, then, who with the Father arranged all hours say, "Father, the hour has come"; as if saying: Father, the hour which we together fixed, for men's sake and among men, for my glorification, has come; "glorify your Son, that your Son also may glorify you."

John 16:33 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 49:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 6:2 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ prayed aloud to teach us; the hour of his passion came not by fate or the stars but by the ordering of God, who with the Father fixed all times.

  • John 17:1, Gal 4:4, Isa 49:8, and 2 Cor 6:2 are quoted; John 16:33 is in view. The rejection of fate and astrology is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (Greek letter); OCR slip (joined words)): faisset → fuisset; co qui erat ad alos sermone → eo qui erat ad illos sermone; opus os → opus es; ita s Patri → ita se Patri; his, notam → bis, notam; illorom → illorum; prole → profe; νenit hom → venit hora; nulla suni tempora → nulla sunt tempora; h.ec hora → hæc hora; venissc → venisse; conditorcm → conditorem; ulmo. reretur → ut moreretur; qUo moreretur → quo moreretur; quo do Virgine → quo de Virgine; dc quo siue tempore → de quo sine tempore; vcram → veram; et Dus per → et Deus per; ceptabili exaudivite → ceptabili exaudivi te; c Eccc nunc → « Ecce nunc; νenit hora, qui → venit hora, qui; νenii hora, clarifica Filium fuum → venit hora, clarifica Filium tuum.

Topics: Christology, Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 104.2 (PL 35:1901–1903; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-104-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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104.3PL 35:1903

Clarificatam a Patre Filium nonnulli accipiunt, in hoc quod ei non pepercit, sed pro nobis omnibus tradidit eum. Sed si passione clarificatus dicitur, quanto magis resurrectione! Nam in passione magis ejus humilitas quam claritas commendatur, Apo­ stolo teste, qui dicit, Humiliavit semetipsum, factus obediens usque ad mortem, mortem autem crucis: » deinde sequitur, et de ejus clarificatione jam dicit, « Propter quod et Deus illum exaltavit, et donavit ei nomen quod est super omne nomen, ut in nomine Jesu omne genu flectatur coelestium, terrestrium, et infernorum, et omnis lingua confiteatur quia Dominus Jesus Christus in gloria est Dei Patris. Hæc est cla­ rificatio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, quae ab ejus resur­ rectione sumpsit exordium. Humilitas ergo ejus inci­ pit in sermone Apostoli, ab eo loco ubi ait, Semet­ ipsum exinanivit formam servi accipiens; et pervenit usque ad mortem crucis. Claritas vero ejus incipit ab eo loco ubi ait, Propter quod et Deus exaltavit eum; et pervenit usque, in gloria est Dei Patris. Nam et ipsum nomen, si inspiciantur codices græci ex qua lingua Epistolæ apostolicae translatae sunt in latinam, quod hic legitur gloria, ibi legitur δόξα: unde verbum derivatum est in græco ut dice­ retur δόξασον, quod interpres latinus ait clarifica, cum posset etiam glorifica dicere, quod tantumdem valet. Et ideo posset etiam in Apostoli Epistola, ubi est gloria, claritas poni, quod si fieret tantumdem valo­ ret. Ut autem non recedatur a verborum sonis, quem­ admodum a claritate clarificatio, sic a gloria glorifi­ catio derivatur. Ut ergo mediator Dei et hominum homo Christus Jesus resurrectione clarificaretur vel glorificaretur, prius humiliatus est passione: non enim a mortuis resurrexisset, si mortuus non fuisset. Humilitas, claritatis est meritum; claritas, humilita­ tis est praemium. Sed hoc factum est in forma servi; in forma vero Dei semper fuit, semper erit claritas: imo non fuit quasi jam non sit, nec erit quasi non­ dum sit; sed sine initio, sine fine semper est claritas. Quod ergo ait, Pater, venit hora, clarifica Filium tuum; sic intelligendum est, tanquam dixerit, Venit hora seminandae humilitatis, fructum non differas cla­ ritatis. Sed quid sibi vult quod sequitur, Ut Filius tuus clarificet te? Numquid etiam Deus Pater pertulit humilitatem carnis sive passionis, ex qua illum clari­ ficari oporteret? Quomodo igitur eum clarificaturus erat Filius, cujus claritas sempiterna nec ex forma humana potuit videri minor, nec in divina posset esse amplior? Sed istam quæstionem in hunc sermonem nolo arctare, aut hinc eum facere longiorem.

Some take the Son's being glorified by the Father to consist in this, that he did not spare him but handed him over for us all. But if he is said to be glorified by his passion, how much more by his resurrection! For in the passion his humility rather than his glory is commended, as the Apostle testifies, who says, "He humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the cross"; then he continues and now speaks of his glorification: "Therefore God also exalted him and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, on earth, and under the earth, and every tongue confess that the Lord Jesus Christ is in the glory of God the Father." This is the glorification of our Lord Jesus Christ, which took its beginning from his resurrection. So his humility begins, in the Apostle's words, from the place where he says, "He emptied himself, taking the form of a servant," and reaches as far as "the death of the cross." But his glory begins from the place where he says, "Therefore God also exalted him," and reaches as far as "is in the glory of God the Father." For the very noun too, if one looks at the Greek manuscripts, the language from which the apostolic Epistles were translated into Latin: what is read here as gloria is read there as doxa, from which in Greek the verb was derived so as to say doxason, which the Latin translator renders clarifica, though he could also have said glorifica, which means just as much. And therefore claritas could also be put where gloria is in the Apostle's Epistle, and if this were done, it would mean just as much. But not to depart from the sounds of the words: as clarificatio is derived from claritas, so glorificatio is derived from gloria. In order, then, that the mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, might be glorified by the resurrection, he was first humbled by the passion: for he would not have risen from the dead if he had not died. Humility is the merit of glory; glory is the reward of humility. But this was done in the form of a servant; in the form of God there always was and always will be glory; or rather, it was not as if it no longer is, nor will it be as if it is not yet; but without beginning and without end there always is glory. So what he says, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son," is to be understood as if he had said: The hour has come for sowing humility; do not delay the fruit of glory. But what does what follows mean: "that your Son may glorify you"? Did God the Father too endure the humility of the flesh or of suffering, from which he would have to be glorified? How then was the Son to glorify him, whose everlasting glory could neither appear less in the human form nor be greater in the divine? But I do not wish to squeeze this question into this sermon or to make the sermon longer with it.

Rom 8:32 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:11 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:1 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Christ's glorification is his resurrection, the reward of the humility of his passion; it was done in the form of a servant, while in the form of God his glory is eternal.

  • Phil 2:7–11 and John 17:1 are quoted; Rom 8:32 and 1 Tim 2:5 are in view. Gloria and claritas, glorificare and clarificare, are all rendered with "glory" and "glorify".

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (Greek letters lost); OCR slip (joined words); OCR slip (quotation mark); missing punctuation; stray mark): tradiditeum → tradidit eum; passioneclarificatus dioitur, quante magis → passione clarificatus dicitur, quanto magis; 4 Propter quod → « Propter quod; emne genu → omne genu; terrostrium → terrestrium; sermoneApostoli → sermone Apostoli; forman. servi → formam servi; usque, ad mortem → usque ad mortem; ab eo locu ubi ait Propter → ab eo loco ubi ait, Propter; exaltavit eam → exaltavit eum; græci ex. qua lingua → græci ex qua lingua; ibi legitur ξα: → ibi legitur δόξα:; retur ξασον → retur δόξασον; poni quod si fieret → poni, quod si fieret; Utautem → Ut autem; adluodum → admodum; bominum → hominum; nee crit quasi → nec erit quasi; Paler, νenit hora → Pater, venit hora; Numquid ctiam → Numquid etiam; esso amplior → esse amplior.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 104.3 (PL 35:1903; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-104-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 105

105.1PL 35:1903

Glorificatum a Patre Filium secundum formam servi, quam Pater suscitavit a mortuis, et ad suam dexteram collocavit, res ipsa indicat, et nullus am­ bigit christianus. Sed quoniam non tantum dixit, Pa­ ter, clarifica Filium tuum, sed addidit etiam, ut Filius tuus clarificet te; merito quaeritur quomodo Patrem clarificaverit Filius, cum sempiterna claritas Patris nec diminuta fuerit in forma humana, nec augeri po­ tuerit in sua perfectione divina. Sed in seipsa claritas Patris nec minui nec augeri potest; apud homines au­ tem procul dubio minor erat, quando in Judæa tantum­ modo Deus notus erat: nondum a solis ortu usque ad occasum laudabant pueri nomen Domini. Hoc autem quia per Evan­ gelium Christi factum est, ut per Filium Pater innote­ sceret gentibus; profecto Patrem clarificavit et Filius. Si autem tantummodo mortuus fuisset Filius, nec re­ surrexisset, procul dubio nec a Patre clarificatus esset, nec Patrem clarificasset: nunc autem resurre­ ctione clarificatus a Patre, resurrectionis suæ praedi­ catione clarificat Patrem. Hoc quippe aperit ordo ipse verborum: Clarifica, inquit, Filium tuum, ut Fi­ lius tuus clarificet te; tanquam diceret, Resuscita me, ut innotescas toti orbi per me.

That the Son was glorified by the Father according to the form of a servant, which the Father raised from the dead and placed at his right hand, the fact itself shows and no Christian doubts. But since he did not only say, "Father, glorify your Son," but also added, "that your Son may glorify you," it is rightly asked how the Son glorified the Father, since the everlasting glory of the Father was neither diminished in the human form nor could be increased in his divine perfection. But in itself the glory of the Father can be neither diminished nor increased; among men, however, it was beyond doubt less when "God was known in Judea" only, when children did not yet "praise the name of the Lord from the rising of the sun to its setting." But because it came about through the gospel of Christ that the Father became known to the nations through the Son, surely the Son too glorified the Father. But if the Son had only died and had not risen, beyond doubt he would neither have been glorified by the Father nor have glorified the Father; but now, glorified by the Father by the resurrection, he glorifies the Father by the preaching of his resurrection. The very order of the words reveals this: "Glorify," he says, "your Son, that your Son may glorify you"; as if he said, Raise me up, that through me you may become known to the whole world.

John 17:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 76:1 (75:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 113:1 (112:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 113:3 (112:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Son glorifies the Father by making him known to all nations through the preaching of his resurrection.

  • John 17:1, Ps 76:1 (LXX 75:2), and Ps 113:1, 3 (LXX 112:1, 3) are quoted. Migne's inline reference is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): Filium luum → Filium tuum; clariUs → claritas; in Judxa → in Judæa; (Psal. LXXV, i) → ; nomes Domini → nomen Domini; nee a Patre clarificatus es. set, nee Patrem → nec a Patre clarificatus esset, nec Patrem; ut F; → ut Fi; lius tuusclarificet → lius tuus clarificet.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.1 (PL 35:1903; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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105.2PL 35:1903

Deinde magis magisque pandens quomodo clari­ ficet Patrem Filius: Sicut dedisti, inquit, ei potesta­ tem omnis carnis, ut omne quod dedisti ei, det eis vi­ tam æternam. Omnem carnem dixit omnem hominem, a parte totum significans; quemadmodum rursus a parte superiore significatus est homo totus, ubi ait Apostolus, Omnis anima potestatibus sublimioribus sub­ dita sit. Quid enim dixit, Omnis ani­ ma, nisi, omnis homo? Et hoc autem quod potestas Christo a Patre data est omnis carnis, secundum ho­ minem intelligendum est: nam secundum Deum om­ nia per ipsum facta sunt, et in ipso con­ dita sunt omnia in coelo et in terra, visibilia et invi­ sibilia. Sicut ergo dedisti ei potestatem, inquit, omnis carnis, ita te glorificet Filius tuus, id est, notum te faciat omni carni quam dedisti ei. Sic enim dedisti, ut omne quod dedisti ei, det eis vitam æternam.

Then, revealing more and more how the Son glorifies the Father, he says: "As you have given him power over all flesh, that to all that you have given him he may give eternal life." By "all flesh" he meant every man, signifying the whole by a part; just as, conversely, the whole man is signified by the higher part where the Apostle says, "Let every soul be subject to the higher powers." For what did he mean by "every soul" but every man? And this, that power over all flesh was given to Christ by the Father, is to be understood according to the man; for according to God "all things were made through him," and "in him all things were created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible." "As, then, you have given him power over all flesh," he says, so let your Son glorify you, that is, make you known to all flesh which you have given him. "For you have so given, that to all that you have given him he may give eternal life."

John 17:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 13:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The Son, given power over all flesh as man, glorifies the Father by making him known to all and giving them eternal life.

  • John 17:2, Rom 13:1, John 1:3, and Col 1:16 are quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (Greek letters)): cLari → clari; omnis Markis → omnis carnis; det eia νι­ → det eis vi­; signifiealus est homo tolus, ubi:tit Apostolus → significatus est homo totus, ubi ait Apostolus; facta sint → facta sunt; det eia νιtam æternvi → det eis vitam æternam.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.2 (PL 35:1903; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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105.3PL 35:1903–1905

Hæc est autem, inquit, vita æterna, ut cognoscant te solum verum Deum, et quem misisti Jesum Christum. Ordo verborum est, ut te et quem misisti Jesum Chri­ stum cognoscant solum verum Deum. Consequenter enim et Spiritus sanctus intelligitur, quia Spiritus est Patris et Filii, tanquam charitas substantialis et con­ substantialis amborum. Quoniam non duo dii Pater et Filius, nec tres dii Pater et Filius et Spiritus san­ ctus; sed ipsa Trinitas solus verus Deus. Nec idem tamen Pater qui Filius, nec idem Filius qui Pater, nec idem Spiritus sanctus qui Pater et Filius; quoniam tres sunt Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus; sed ipsa Trinitas unus est Deus. Si ergo eo modo te glorificat Filius sicut dedisti ei potestatem omnis carnis, et sic dedisti, ut omne quod dedisti ei, det eis vitam æter­ nam, et, hæc est vita æterna, ut cognoscant te; sic te igitur Filius glorificat, ut omnibus quos dedisti ei, te cognitum faciat. Porro si cognitio Dei est vita aeterna, tanto magis vivere tendimus, quanto magis in hac cognitione proficimus. Non autem moriemur in vita æterna: tunc ergo Dei cognitio perfecta erit, quando nulla mors erit. Summa tunc Dei clarificatio; quia summa gloria, quæ græce dicitur δόξα. Unde di­ ctum est δόξασον, quod Latini quidam interpretati sunt, clarifica; quidam, glorifica. A veteribus autem gloria, qua gloriosi homines dicuntur, ita est defi­ nita: Gloria est frequens de aliquo fama cum laude. At si homo laudatur cum famæ creditur, quomodo Deus laudabitur quando ipse videbitur? Propter quod scriptum est, Beati qui habitant in domo tua; in sæcula sæculorum laudabunt te. Ibi erit Dei sine fine laudatio, ubi erit Dei plena cognitio; et quia plena cognitio, ideo summa clarificatio vel glorifi­ catio.

"And this," he says, "is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." The order of the words is: that they may know you and Jesus Christ whom you have sent as the only true God. For the Holy Spirit too is understood as following from this, because he is the Spirit of the Father and the Son, as it were the substantial and consubstantial love of both. For the Father and the Son are not two gods, nor are the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit three gods; but the Trinity itself is the only true God. Yet the Father is not the same as the Son, nor the Son the same as the Father, nor the Holy Spirit the same as the Father and the Son; since the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are three; but the Trinity itself is one God. If, then, the Son glorifies you in the same way as you have given him power over all flesh, and you have so given that to all that you have given him he may give eternal life, and "this is eternal life, that they may know you," then the Son glorifies you by making you known to all whom you have given him. Further, if the knowledge of God is eternal life, the more we advance in this knowledge, the more we tend toward life. But in eternal life we shall not die: then, therefore, the knowledge of God will be perfect, when there will be no death. Then will be God's highest glorification, because then there will be the highest glory, which in Greek is called doxa; hence doxason, which some Latins translated clarifica, others glorifica. By the ancients, the glory by which men are called glorious was defined thus: "Glory is frequent fame about someone with praise." But if a man is praised when report about him is believed, how will God be praised when he himself is seen? Hence it is written, "Blessed are those who dwell in your house; for ever and ever they will praise you." There the praise of God will be without end, where there will be the full knowledge of God; and because it is full knowledge, it is the highest glorification.

John 17:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 84:4 (83:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Eternal life is knowing the one true God, the Trinity; the Son glorifies the Father by making him known, and God's highest glorification will be the full knowledge of him in eternal life.

  • John 17:3 and Ps 84:4 (LXX 83:5) are quoted. Augustine reads "the only true God" as said of both the Father and Jesus Christ. The definition of glory is Cicero's (De inventione 2.166). The doctrine of the Trinity is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (Greek letter)): solum νerum Deum, et quem → solum verum Deum, et quem; cognoscant solum νerum Deum. Consequenter → cognoscant solum verum Deum. Consequenter; Spiritus cst Patris → Spiritus est Patris; Patcr et Filius, ore tres dii → Pater et Filius, nec tres dii; solus verus Iscus → solus verus Deus; Ires sunt → tres sunt; co modo → eo modo; quoS dedisti ei, det eia vitam → quod dedisti ei, det eis vitam; ct, hæc eat vita → et, hæc est vita; proficiinus → proficimus; mors crit → mors erit; summa alona → summa gloria; Al si homo → At si homo.

Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Inv. 2.166 (Cicero; quotation)

Topics: Trinity, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.3 (PL 35:1903–1905; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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105.4PL 35:1905

Sed prius hic clarificatur Deus, dum annuntiatus hominibus innotescit, et per fidem credentium prædi­ catur. Propter quod dicit, Ego te clarificavi super ter­ ram, opus consummavi quod dedisti mihi ut faciam. Non ait, jussisti; sed, dedisti: ubi commendatur evidens gratia. Quid enim habet quod non accepit, etiam in Unigenito humana natura? An non accepit, ut nihil mali, sed bona faceret omnia, quando in unitatem personæ suscepta est a Verbo, per quod facta sunt omnia? Sed quomodo consummavit opus quod acce­ pit ut faciat, cum restaret adhuc passionis experimen­ tum, ubi martyribus suis maxime præbuit quod se­ querentur exemplum; unde ait apostolus Petrus, Christus passus est pro nobis relinquens nobis exemplum, ut sequamur vestigia ejus: nisi quia consummasse se dicit quod se consummaturum esse certissime novit? Sicut longe ante in prophetia prae­ teriti temporis usus est verbis, quando post annos plurimos futurum fuerat quod dicebat: Foderunt, inquit, manus meas et pedes, dinumeraverunt omnia ossa mea; non ait, Fodient et di­ numerabunt. Et in hoc ipso Evangelio, Omnia, inquit, quæ audivi a Patre meo, nota feci vobis: quibus ait postea, Adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere; sed non potestis illa portare modo. Qui enim certis et immutabilibus causis omnia futura prædesti­ navit, quidquid facturus esset fecit: nam et per pro­ phetam dictum de illo est, Qui fecit quæ futura sunt.

But God is first glorified here, as, proclaimed to men, he becomes known and is preached through the faith of believers. Hence he says, "I have glorified you on earth; I have accomplished the work which you gave me to do." He does not say "commanded," but "gave": and in this evident grace is commended. For what does even the human nature in the Only-begotten have that it did not receive? Did it not receive the power to do no evil but to do all things well, when it was taken up into unity of person by the Word, through whom all things were made? But how did he accomplish the work which he received to do, when there still remained the trial of the passion, in which above all he gave his martyrs an example to follow (whence the apostle Peter says, "Christ suffered for us, leaving us an example, that we should follow in his steps"), except that he says he has accomplished what he most certainly knew he would accomplish? Just as long before, in prophecy, he used words of past time when what he spoke of was to happen many years later: "They dug," he says, "my hands and my feet; they numbered all my bones"; he does not say, "They will dig and will number." And in this very Gospel he says, "All that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you," to whom he says afterward, "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now." For he who predestined all future things by certain and unchangeable causes has done whatever he was going to do; for it was said of him through the prophet too, "Who has made the things that are to be."

John 17:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Pet 2:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:16 (21:17 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:17 (21:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:11 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Christ says he has accomplished the work "given" him, showing grace, and speaks of his passion as done because he foreknew it certainly.

  • John 17:4, 1 Pet 2:21, Ps 22:16–17 (LXX 21:17–18), John 15:15, 16:12, and Isa 45:11 (LXX) are quoted; 1 Cor 4:7 and John 1:3 are in view. Migne's inline reference is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip): prins hic → prius hic; bominibus → hominibus; fa ciam → faciam; evi. dens → evidens; restit adhuc → restaret adhuc; lum, ubi → tum, ubi; passus eat pro nobis → passus est pro nobis; tenti temporis → teriti temporis; meas el pedes → meas et pedes; Qui roim certis et immutabilibus cnusis → Qui enim certis et immutabilibus causis; facturus ess fecit → facturus esset fecit; (Isai. XLV, ii, sec. LXX) → .

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.4 (PL 35:1905; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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105.5PL 35:1905

Secundum hoc etiam quod sequitur dicit: Et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum, claritate quam habui, priusquam mundus esset, apud te. Nam supra dixerat, Pater, venit hora, clarifica Filium tuum, ut Filius tuus clarificet te: in quo verborum ordine ostenderat prius a Patre clarificandum Filium, ut Pa­ trem clarificaret Filius. Modo autem dixit, Ego te clarificavi super terram, opus consummavi quod dedisti mihi ut faciam: et nunc clarifica me; tanquam prior ipse Patrem clarificaverit, a quo deinde ut clarificetur exposcit. Ergo intelligendum est utroque verbo supe­ rius usum secundum id quod futurum erat, eoque or­ dine quo futurum erat, Clarifica Filium, ut te clarifi­ cet Filius: modo vero usum fuisse verbo præteriti temporis de re futura, ubi ait, Ego te clarificavi super terram, opus consummavi quod dedisti mihi ut faciam. Deinde dicendo, Et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum, quasi posterius esset clarificandus a Pa­ tre, quem prius ipse clarificaverat; quid ostendit, nisi superius ubi ait, Ego te clarificavi super terram, ita locutum se fuisse, tanquam fecisset quod facturus es­ set; hic autem poposcisse ut Pater faceret, per quod illud Filius facturus esset, id est, ut Pater clarificaret Filium, per quam Filii clarificationem etiam Filius clarificaturus esset Patrem? Denique si de re quae fu­ tura erat, ponamus etiam futuri temporis verbum, ubi pro tempore futuro posuit ipse præteritum, nulla sententiae remanebit obscuritas: veluti si dixisset, Ego te clarificabo super terram, opus consummabo quod dedisti mihi ut faciam: et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum. Nempe ita planum est, sic­ ut illud ubi ait, Clarifica Filium tuum, ut Filius tuus clarificet te: et ipsa est omnino sententia, nisi quia et hic dictus est ejusdem clarificationis modus, ibi autem tacitus; tanquam illud isto exponeretur eis quos poterat permovere, quomodo Pater Filium, et maxime quomodo Patrem clarificaret et Filius. Di­ cendo enim clarificari a se Patrem super terram, se autem a Patre apud eumdem Patrem, modum pro­ fecto utriusque clarificationis ostendit. Ipse quippe Patrem clarificavit super terram, eum gentibus præ­ dicando; Pater vero ipsum apud semetipsum, ad suam dexteram collocando. Sed ideo postea de clarificando Patre ubi ait, Ego te clarificavi, verbum praeteriti tem­ poris ponere maluit, ut monstraret in praedestinatione jam factum, et pro jam facto habendum quod certis­ sime fuerat futurum; id est, ut a Patre apud Patrem glorificatus, Patrem super terram glorificaret et Filius.

In accordance with this he also says what follows: "And now glorify me, Father, with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world was." For above he had said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you," and by that order of words he had shown that the Son was first to be glorified by the Father, so that the Son might glorify the Father. But now he has said, "I have glorified you on earth; I have accomplished the work which you gave me to do; and now glorify me," as if he himself had first glorified the Father, by whom he then asks to be glorified. So we must understand that above he used both verbs according to what was to be, and in the order in which it was to be: "Glorify the Son, that the Son may glorify you"; but that now he used a verb of past time about a future thing, where he says, "I have glorified you on earth; I have accomplished the work which you gave me to do." Then, by saying, "And now glorify me, Father, with yourself," as though he were to be glorified afterward by the Father whom he himself had first glorified, what does he show except that above, where he says, "I have glorified you on earth," he spoke as if he had done what he was going to do; but here he asked the Father to do that through which the Son would do the former, that is, that the Father glorify the Son, the glorification of the Son through which the Son too would glorify the Father? Finally, if for a thing that was future we put a verb of future time too, where he himself put the past for the future, no obscurity of meaning will remain: as if he had said, "I will glorify you on earth, I will accomplish the work which you gave me to do; and now glorify me, Father, with yourself." Surely this is as plain as where he says, "Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you"; and the meaning is altogether the same, except that here the manner of that glorification is stated, while there it is left unsaid; as if the one were explained by the other for those whom it could trouble how the Father would glorify the Son, and especially how the Son too would glorify the Father. For by saying that the Father is glorified by him on earth, but he himself by the Father with the same Father, he surely showed the manner of each glorification. For he glorified the Father on earth by preaching him to the nations; but the Father glorified him with himself by placing him at his right hand. But afterward, concerning the glorifying of the Father, where he says, "I have glorified you," he preferred to use a verb of past time to show that what was most certainly to be was already done in predestination and to be held as already done; that is, that the Son, glorified by the Father with the Father, would glorify the Father on earth.

John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:4 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ speaks of glorifying the Father as already done because it was certain in predestination; the Father glorifies the Son by seating him at his right hand, and the Son glorifies the Father by being preached to the nations.

  • John 17:1, 4–5 is quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): Tilium → Filium; clariffcarct → clarificaret; cxposcit → exposcit; ubi ait. Clarifica → ubi ait, Clarifica; apud eamdem Patrem → apud eumdem Patrem; recto utriusque → fecto utriusque; suani dexteram → suam dexteram; Sed-ideo → Sed ideo; lem → tem; jam Iacto → jam facto; gtoriftcarct → glorificaret.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.5 (PL 35:1905; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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105.6PL 35:1905–1907

Sed hanc praedestinationem in sua clarificatione manifestius aperuit, qua eum clarificavit Pater, in eo quod adjunxit, Claritate quam habui, priusquam mun­ dus esset, apud te. Ordo verborum est, quam habui apud te, priusquam mundus esset. Ad hoc valet quod ait, Et nunc clarifica me; hoc est, sicut tunc; ita et nunc; sicut tunc prædestinatione, ita et nunc perfe­ ctione: fac in mundo, quod apud te jam fuerat ante mundum; fac in suo tempore, quod ante omnia tem­ pora statuisti. Hoc quidam sic intelligendum puta­ runt, tanquam natura humana quæ suscepta est a Verbo, converteretur in Verbum, et homo mutaretur in Deum; imo, si diligentius quod opinati sunt cogi­ temus, homo periret in Deo. Non enim quisquam ex ista mutatione hominis vel duplicari Dei Verbum di­ cturus est, vel augeri, ut aut duo sint quod unum fuit, aut amplius sit quod minus fuit. Porro si natura humana in Verbum mutata atque conversa, Verbum Dei quantum erat et quod erat hoc erit, ubi est homo si non perit?

But he disclosed this predestination more plainly in his own glorification, by which the Father glorified him, in what he added: "with the glory which I had with you before the world was." The order of the words is: which I had with you before the world was. To this applies his saying, "And now glorify me": that is, as then, so now; as then by predestination, so now by accomplishment; do in the world what was already with you before the world; do in its own time what you established before all times. Some have thought this should be understood as though the human nature taken up by the Word were converted into the Word, and the man changed into God; or rather, if we consider more carefully what they have supposed, as though the man perished in God. For no one will say that by such a change of the man the Word of God is either doubled or increased, so that either what was one becomes two, or what was less becomes more. Further, if human nature has been changed and converted into the Word, and the Word of God will be as great as he was and what he was, where is the man, if he has not perished?

John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The glory Christ had before the world was is the glory predestined for his humanity; it does not mean that his human nature was converted into the Word.

  • John 17:5 is quoted. Augustine rejects, without naming its holders, the view that Christ's human nature was converted into the Word; translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Ordo verborum cst → Ordo verborum est; fae in mundo → fac in mundo; suscepta cst a → suscepta est a; ct homo mutaretur → et homo mutaretur; homo peri reI in Dco. Non cnim → homo periret in Deo. Non enim; vEl duplicari → vel duplicari; quod annus fuit → quod minus fuit; quantum crat et quod erat boc erit → quantum erat et quod erat hoc erit.

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.6 (PL 35:1905–1907; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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105.7PL 35:1907

Sed ad hanc opinionem, quam veritati prorsus non video convenire, nihil nos urget, si Filio dicente, Et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum, clari­ tate quam habui, priusquam mundus esset, apud te, in­ telligamus prædestinationem claritatis humanæ quae in illo est naturae, ex mortali immortalis apud Patrem futuræ; et hoc jam prædestinando factum fuisse ante­ quam mundus esset, quod in mundo etiam suo tem­ pore fieret. Si enim de nobis dixit Apostolus, Sicut elegit nos in ipso ante mundi constitutionem; cur abhorrere putatur a vero, si tunc Pater caput nostrum glorificavit, quando nos in ipso, ut membra ejus essemus, elegit? Sic enim nos electi, quomodo ipse clarificatus; quia priusquam mundus esset, nec nos eramus, nec ipse mediator Dei et hominum homo Christus Jesus. Sed ille qui per ipsum in quantum Verbum ejus est, etiam quæ futura sunt fecit, et vocat ea quæ non sunt, tanquam sint; profecto secundum id quod mediator Dei et hominum homo est, ante mundi constitutionem pro nobis Deus Pater glorificavit ipsum, si tunc elegit etiam nos in ipso. Quid enim dicit Apostolus? « Scimus autem quoniam diligentibus Deum omnia coope­ rantur in bonum, his qui secundum propositum vo­ cati sunt. Quos enim praescivit, et praedestinavit con­ formes fieri imaginis Filii ejus, ut sit ipse primoge­ nitus in multis fratribus: quos autem praedestinavit, illos et vocavit ».

But nothing forces us to this opinion, which I see does not agree at all with the truth, if, when the Son says, "And now glorify me, Father, with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world was," we understand the predestination of the glory of the human nature which is in him, which was to become immortal from mortal with the Father; and that this had already been done by predestination before the world was, which was to be done in the world also in its own time. For if the Apostle said of us, "As he chose us in him before the foundation of the world," why is it thought to be foreign to the truth that the Father glorified our head then, when he chose us in him to be his members? For we were chosen in the same way as he was glorified; because before the world was, neither did we exist, nor did the mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. But he who through him, insofar as he is his Word, has made even the things that are to be, and calls the things that are not as though they were, surely glorified him for us before the foundation of the world according to the fact that he is the mediator between God and men, a man, if he then chose us also in him. For what does the Apostle say? "But we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers; and those whom he predestined he also called."

John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 45:11 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 4:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:30 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: As we were chosen in Christ before the world, so the Father glorified Christ's humanity in predestination before the world was.

  • John 17:5, Eph 1:4, and Rom 8:28–30 are quoted; 1 Tim 2:5, Isa 45:11 (LXX), and Rom 4:17 are in view. The teaching on predestination is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): vjdeo con venire, nibil → video convenire, nihil; mundus eaet → mundus esset; et boc jam → et hoc jam; tcm → tem; do nobis → de nobis; quando noa in ipso → quando nos in ipso; nec noa eramus → nec nos eramus; bomo Christus → homo Christus; eliam quæ futura → etiam quæ futura; Dei et bominum homo est → Dei et hominum homo est; < Sci. mus autem → « Scimus autem.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.7 (PL 35:1907; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.

105.8PL 35:1907

Nisi forte ipsum praedestinatum dicere formida­ bimus, quia de nobis tantum ut efficiamur conformes imaginis ejus, hoc dixisse videtur Apostolus. Quasi vero quisquam regulam fidei fideliter intuens, Filium Dei negaturus est praedestinatum, qui eum negare hominem non potest. Recte quippe dicitur non præ­ destinatus secundum id quod est Verbum Dei, Deus apud Deum. Utquid enim praedestinaretur, cum jam esset quod erat, sine initio, sine termino sempiternus? Illud autem praedestinandum erat, quod nondum erat, ut sic suo tempore fieret, quemadmodum ante omnia tempora prædestinatum erat ut fieret. Quis­ quis igitur Dei Filium prædestinatum negat, hunc eumdem Filium hominis negat. Sed propter conten­ tiosos etiam hinc audiamus Apostolum in suarum exordio Litterarum. Nam et in prima Epistolarum ejus, quae est ad Romanos, et ipsius Epistolæ prin­ cipium est, ubi legitur: Paulus servus Jesu Christi, vocatus Apostolus, segregatus in Evangelium Dei, quod ante promiserat per Prophetas suos in Scripturis sanctis de Filio suo, qui factus est ei ex semine David secundum carnem, qui prædestinatus est Filius Dei in virtute se­ cundum Spiritum sanctificationis ex resurrectione mor­ tuorum. Secundum hanc ergo prædesti­ nationem etiam clarificatus est antequam mundus esset, ut esset claritas ejus ex resurrectione mortuo­ rum apud Patrem, ad cujus dexteram sedet. Cum ergo videret illius prædestinatæ suæ clarificationis venisse jam tempus, ut et nunc fieret in redditione, quod fuerat in prædestinatione jam factum, oravit di­ cens, Et nunc clarifica me tu, Pater, apud temetipsum, claritate quam habui, priusquam mundus esset, apud te: tanquam diceret, Claritatem quam habui apud te, id est, illam claritatem quam habui apud te in prædestinatione tua, tempus est ut apud te habeam etiam vivens in dextera tua. Sed quoniam diu nos tenuit hujus discussio quæstionis, alio quae sequuntur scr­ mone tractanda sunt.

Unless perhaps we shall be afraid to call him predestined, because the Apostle seems to have said this only of us, that we are made conformed to his image. As if anyone who faithfully considers the rule of faith would deny that the Son of God was predestined, when he cannot deny that he is man. He is rightly said not to have been predestined according to what he is as the Word of God, God with God. For why would he be predestined, since he already was what he was, everlasting, without beginning and without end? But that had to be predestined which did not yet exist, so that it would come to be in its own time, just as it had been predestined before all times to come to be. Whoever, then, denies that the Son of God was predestined denies that this same one is the Son of Man. But because of the contentious, let us hear the Apostle on this point too, at the opening of his letters. For in the first of his Epistles, the one to the Romans, at the very beginning of the Epistle, one reads: "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, which he promised beforehand through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, concerning his Son, who was made for him from the seed of David according to the flesh, who was predestined Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by the resurrection of the dead." According to this predestination, then, he was also glorified before the world was, so that his glory, from the resurrection of the dead, might be with the Father, at whose right hand he sits. So when he saw that the time of that predestined glorification of his had now come, so that what had already been done in predestination might now also be done in its fulfillment, he prayed, saying, "And now glorify me, Father, with yourself, with the glory which I had with you before the world was"; as if he said: The glory which I had with you, that is, the glory which I had with you in your predestination, it is time that I should have with you, living also at your right hand. But since the discussion of this question has held us long, what follows must be treated in another sermon.

Rom 8:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:4 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:5 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ as man was predestined, as Rom 1:4 shows; the glory he had with the Father before the world was is the glory of his resurrection, predestined then and now fulfilled.

  • Rom 1:1–4 (in the Latin "predestined Son of God") and John 17:5 are quoted; Rom 8:29 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): coaformes → conformes; boc dixisse → hoc dixisse; negare bominem → negare hominem; lllud autem → Illud autem; Milium bominis → Filium hominis; etiam binc → etiam hinc; Epistole → Epistolæ; uhi legitur; → ubi legitur:; uocatus Apostolus → vocatus Apostolus; factus eat ei ex semine → factus est ei ex semine; prædestinatus eat Filius → prædestinatus est Filius; eundum Spiritum → cundum Spiritum; Secundum bane → Secundum hanc; cjus ex resurrECtione → ejus ex resurrectione; apud le: tanquam dicerct, Claritatem quam habui apud to, id est, illam claritatem quam habui apud le in pr:cdestinatione tua, tempus cst → apud te: tanquam diceret, Claritatem quam habui apud te, id est, illam claritatem quam habui apud te in prædestinatione tua, tempus est; noe tenuit hujus discussio quapstionis → nos tenuit hujus discussio quæstionis; tractauda → tractanda.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 105.8 (PL 35:1907; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/104-1/#p-105-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.