Tractates on the Gospel of John 101.1–103.3

Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).

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Chapter 101

101.1PL 35:1893

Hæc Domini verba ubi ait, Modicum et jam non videbitis me, et iterum modicum et videbitis me, quia vado ad Patrem, ita obscura erant discipulis, antequam id quod dicit impletum esset, ut quærentes inter se quid esset quod diceret, omnino se faterentur nescire. Sequitur enim Evangelium: Dixerunt ergo ex discipu­ lis ejus ad invicem, Quid est hoc quod dicit nobis, Mo­ dicum et non videbitis me, et iterum modicum et videbitis me, et quia vado ad Patrem? Dicebant ergo: Quid est hoc quod dicit, Modicum? Nescimus quid loquitur. Hoc enim est quod eos movebat, quia dixit, Modicum et non videbitis me, et iterum modicum et videbitis me. Nam in præcedentibus quia non dixerat, Modicum, sed dixerat, Ad Patrem vado, et jam non videbitis me; tanquam aperte illis visus est locutus, nec inter se de hoc aliquid quæsierunt. Nunc ergo quod illis tunc obscurum fuit, et mox manifestatum est, jam nobis utique manifestum est: post paululum enim passus est, et non viderunt eum; rursus post paulu­ lum resurrexit, et viderunt eum. Illud autem quod ait, Jam non videbitis me, quia isto verbo, id est, jam, hoc intelligi voluit quod eum ulterius non viderent, ibi exposuimus quomodo accipiendum sit, ubi dixit, De justitia arguet mundum Spiritus sanctus, quia ad Patrem vado, et jam non videbitis me: quia scilicet mortalem Christum ulterius non viderent.

These words of the Lord, where he says, "A little while, and you will no longer see me, and again a little while, and you will see me, because I go to the Father," were so obscure to the disciples, before what he said was fulfilled, that when they asked among themselves what he meant, they confessed that they did not know at all. For the Gospel continues: "So some of his disciples said to one another, What is this that he says to us, A little while, and you will not see me, and again a little while, and you will see me, and, Because I go to the Father? So they said, What is this that he says, A little while? We do not know what he is saying." For this is what troubled them, that he said, "A little while, and you will not see me, and again a little while, and you will see me." For in what went before, since he had not said "a little while" but had said, "I go to the Father, and you will no longer see me," he seemed to them to have spoken plainly, and they asked nothing about it among themselves. Now, then, what was obscure to them then and was soon made plain is certainly plain to us now: for after a little while he suffered, and they did not see him; again, after a little while he rose, and they saw him. But as for his saying, "you will no longer see me," meaning by this word "no longer" that they would not see him any more, we explained how it is to be taken at the place where he said, "The Holy Spirit will convict the world of righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will no longer see me": namely, that they would no longer see Christ as mortal.

John 16:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:10 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The disciples could not understand "a little while"; it was soon made plain by Christ's death and resurrection.

  • John 16:16–18 and 16:10 are quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): Demini verba uhi → Domini verba ubi; qnod diceret → quod diceret; Quid eat hoc quod dicit nobis → Quid est hoc quod dicit nobis; Dicebant ergo t Quid eat hoc quod dicit, Modicum → Dicebant ergo: Quid est hoc quod dicit, Modicum; Hoc cnim est → Hoc enim est; vado. et jam → vado, et jam; paululum euim passus → paululum enim passus; rursus v post → rursus post.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 101.1 (PL 35:1893; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-101-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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101.2PL 35:1893

Cognovit autem Jesus, sicut sequens Evangelista dicit, quia volebant eum interrogare, et dixit eis: De hoc quæritis inter vos, quia dixi, Modicum et non videbi­ tis me, et iterum modicum et videbitis me. Amen, amen dico vobis, quia plorabitis et flebitis vos; mundus autem gaudebit: vos autem contristabimini, sed tristitia vestra in gaudium erit. Et hoc sic accipi potest, quia con­ tristati sunt discipuli de morte Domini, et confestim de resurrectione lætati: mundus autem, quo nomine significati sunt inimici a quibus Christus occisus est, tunc utique lætati sunt occiso Christo, quando sunt discipuli contristati. Mundi quippe nomine, malitia potest mundi hujus intelligi, id est hominum mundi hujus amicorum. Unde Jacobus apostolus in Epistola sua dicit, Quicumque voluerit amicus esse hujus sæculi inimicus Dei constituitur: quibus inimi­ citiis Dei factum est ut nec ejus Unigenito parceretur.

But Jesus knew, as the evangelist goes on to say, that they wanted to ask him, and he said to them: "You are asking among yourselves about this, that I said, A little while, and you will not see me, and again a little while, and you will see me. Truly, truly, I say to you, you will weep and lament, but the world will rejoice; you will be sorrowful, but your sorrow will turn into joy." And this can be taken thus: that the disciples were saddened by the Lord's death and at once gladdened by his resurrection; but the world, by which name are signified the enemies by whom Christ was killed, certainly rejoiced when Christ was killed, at the very time when the disciples were saddened. For by the name "world" can be understood the malice of this world, that is, of the men who are friends of this world. Hence the apostle James says in his Epistle, "Whoever wishes to be a friend of this world is made an enemy of God"; and by this enmity toward God it came about that not even his Only-begotten was spared.

John 16:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Jas 4:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:32 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The disciples' sorrow at Christ's death turned to joy at his resurrection, while the world, his enemies, rejoiced at his death.

  • John 16:19–20 and Jas 4:4 are quoted; Rom 8:32 is echoed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): boc sic accipi → hoc sic accipi; triStati → tristati; significatisunt → significati sunt; oeelsus cst → occisus est; parcerctur → parceretur.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 101.2 (PL 35:1893; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-101-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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101.3PL 35:1893

Deinde subjungit, et dicit: Mulier cum parit, tristitiam habet, quia venit hora ejus; cum autem pepe­ rit puerum, jam non meminit pressuræ propter gau­ dium, quia natus est homo in mundum: et vos igitur nunc quidem tristitiam habetis; iterum autem videbo vos, et gaudebit cor vestrum, et gaudium vestrum nemo tollet a vobis. Nec ista similitudo ad intelligendum vi­ detur esse difficilis; quoniam comparatio ejus in promptu est, eodem ipso exponente cur dicta sit. Par­ turitio quippe tristitiæ, partus autem gaudio compa­ ratur; quod tunc majus esse consuevit, quando non puella, sed puer nascitur. Quod vero ait, Gaudium vestrum nemo tollet a vobis, quia gaudium eorum est ipse Jesus, significatum est quod ait Apostolus, Chri­ stus surgens a mortuis jam non moritur, et mors ei ultra non dominabitur.

Then he adds and says: "A woman, when she gives birth, has sorrow, because her hour has come; but when she has borne the child, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. So you too now have sorrow; but I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice, and no one will take your joy from you." Nor does this likeness seem difficult to understand, since its comparison is ready to hand, as he himself explains why it was said. For labor is compared to sorrow, and birth to joy, which is usually greater when not a girl but a boy is born. But what he says, "No one will take your joy from you," since their joy is Jesus himself, signifies what the Apostle says: "Christ, rising from the dead, dies no more, and death will no longer have dominion over him."

John 16:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The woman in labor pictures the disciples' sorrow turning to joy; their joy, Christ risen, can no longer be taken from them.

  • John 16:21–22 and Rom 6:9 are quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): rexit hora ejus → venit hora ejus; rent puerum → rit puerum; turilio → turitio; significatum esi quod → significatum est quod; mors ci ultra → mors ei ultra.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 101.3 (PL 35:1893; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-101-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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101.4PL 35:1893

Hueusque in isto Evangelii capitulo, unde hodie disputamus, velut facili intellectu omnia cucurrerunt: acrior necessaria est in his quæ sequuntur intentio. Quid est enim quod ait, Et in illo die me non rogabitis quidquam? Hoc verbum quod est rogare, non solum petere, verum etiam interrogare significat; et grecum Evangelium, unde hoc translatum est, tale habet ver­ bum quod utrumque possit intelligi, ut hæc ambigui­ tas nec inde solvatur: quanquam etsi solveretur, non ideo nulla quaestio remaneret. Dominum etenim Christum, postquam resurrexit, et interrogatum le­ gimus et rogatum. Nam interrogatus est a discipulis ascensurus in cœlum, quando præsentaretur, et quando regnum esset Israel: cum vero jam esset in cælo, rogatus est a sancto Stephano, ut spiri­ tum ejus acciperet. Et quis audeat vel cogitare vel dicere, in coelo sedentem Christum ro­ gandum non esse, et in terra manentem rogatum fuisse? rogandum non esse immortalem, rogari dc­ buisse mortalem? Imo, charissimi, rogemus eum, ut nodum quaestionis hujus ipse dissolvat, lucendo in cor­ dibus nostris ad videnda quæ dicit.

Up to this point in this chapter of the Gospel, which we are discussing today, everything has run along as if easy to understand; but sharper attention is needed in what follows. For what is it that he says, "And in that day you will not ask me anything"? This verb "ask" (rogare) means not only to request but also to question; and the Greek Gospel, from which this was translated, has a verb that can be understood both ways, so that the ambiguity is not resolved from there either; although even if it were resolved, not on that account would no question remain. For we read that the Lord Christ, after he rose, was both questioned and asked. For he was questioned by the disciples, as he was about to ascend into heaven, about when he would be present again and when the kingdom would be Israel's; and when he was already in heaven, he was asked by holy Stephen to receive his spirit. And who would dare to think or say that Christ seated in heaven is not to be asked, though he was asked while he remained on earth? That the immortal is not to be asked, though the mortal had to be asked? Rather, beloved, let us ask him to untie the knot of this question himself, by shining in our hearts so that we may see what he means.

John 16:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 7:59 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: "You will not ask me anything" is puzzling, since the risen Christ was both questioned and asked, as by Stephen.

  • John 16:23 is quoted; Acts 1:6 and Acts 7:59 are in view. Rogare means both "ask" and "question", as does the Greek erōtaō.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; missing space): urfde hodie → unde hodie; acrior necessaria esi → acrior necessaria est; rogabiti. quidquam → rogabitis quidquam; verbiun → verbum; uude hoc translatum → unde hoc translatum; tale babet ver → tale habet ver; buM quod → bum quod; intelligi,ut → intelligi, ut; nee inde → nec inde; regnum esset israel → regnum esset Israel; jam essol → jam esset; tit spiri → ut spiri; vet dieere → vel dicere; kno, charissimi → Imo, charissimi; bujus → hujus.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 101.4 (PL 35:1893; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-101-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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101.5PL 35:1893–1895

Puto enim quod ait, Iterum autem videbo vos, et gaudebit cor vestrum, et gaudium vestrum nemo tollet a vobis, non ad illud tempus esse referendum quo re­ surrexit, eisque suam carnem cernendam tangendam­ que monstravit: sed potius ad illud unde jam dixerat, Qui diligit me, diligetur a Patre meo; et ego diligam eum, et manifestabo meipsum illi. Jam quippe resurrexerat, jam se illis in carne monstraverat, jam sedebat ad dexteram Patris, quando dicebat idem ipse apostolus Joannes, cujus est hoc Evangelium, in Epistola sua: Dilectissimi, nunc filii Dei sumus, et nondum manifestatum est quid erimus: scimus quia cum manifestatum fuerit, similes ei erimus, quoniam videbimus eum sicuti est. Ista visio non vitæ hujus est, sed futuræ; non temporalis, sed æterna. Hæc est autem vita æterna, dicente ipsa vita, ut cognoscant te, inquit, unum verum Deum, et quem misisti Jesum Christum, De hac visione et cognitione dicit Apostolus: Vide­ mus nunc per speculum in ænigmate, tunc autem facie ad faciem: nunc scio ex parte, tunc autem cognoscam sicut et cognitus sum. Hunc totius laboris sui fructum Ecclesia nunc parturit desiderando, tunc est paritura cernendo; nunc parturit gemendo, tunc paritura lætando; nunc parturit orando, tunc paritura laudando. Et ideo masculum; quoniam ad istum fructum contemplationis cuncta officia referun­ tur actionis. Solus est enim liber; quia propter se ap­ petitur, et non refertur ad aliud. Huic servit actio: ad hunc enim refertur quidquid bene agitur, quia propter hunc agitur; ipse autem non propter aliud, sed propter semetipsum tenetur et habetur. Ibi ergo finis qui sufficit nobis. Æternus igitur erit: neque enim nobis sufficit finis, nisi cujus nullus est finis. Hoc inspiratum erat Philippo quando dixit: Ostende nobis Patrem, et sufficit nobis. In qua ostensione se promisit et Filius dicens: Non credis quia ego in Pa­ tre, et Pater in me est? De hoc ita­ que quod sufficit nobis, rectissime audimus, Gaudium vestrum nemo tollet a vobis.

For I think that what he says, "But I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice, and no one will take your joy from you," is not to be referred to the time when he rose and showed them his flesh to be seen and touched, but rather to that of which he had already said, "Whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will manifest myself to him." For he had already risen, already shown himself to them in the flesh, and was already seated at the right hand of the Father, when the same apostle John, whose Gospel this is, said in his Epistle: "Beloved, we are now children of God, and it has not yet appeared what we shall be; we know that when it appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is." That vision belongs not to this life but to the life to come; it is not temporal but eternal. "And this is eternal life," says the Life himself, "that they may know you, the one true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Of this vision and knowledge the Apostle says: "We see now through a mirror in an enigma, but then face to face: now I know in part, but then I shall know even as I am known." This fruit of all its labor the church now travails with by desiring, and will then bring forth by beholding; now travails with in groaning, and will then bring forth in rejoicing; now travails with in praying, and will then bring forth in praising. And therefore it is a male child, since all the duties of action are referred to this fruit of contemplation. For it alone is free, because it is sought for its own sake and is not referred to anything else. Action serves it; for whatever is done well is referred to it, because it is done for its sake; but it is held and possessed for the sake of nothing else, only for itself. There, then, is the end that suffices us. So it will be eternal: for no end suffices us except one that has no end. This was inspired in Philip when he said, "Show us the Father, and it is enough for us." In that showing the Son promised himself too, saying, "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me?" Of this, then, which suffices us, we most rightly hear, "No one will take your joy from you."

John 16:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 3:2 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The joy no one will take away is the eternal vision of God, the fruit of contemplation to which all action is directed, which the church now travails to bring forth.

  • John 16:22, 14:21, 1 John 3:2, John 17:3, 1 Cor 13:12, and John 14:8, 10 are quoted. Migne's inline reference is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference (leaked); OCR slip): moostravit → monstravit; (Id. xiv, it) → ; in Epistola sira → in Epistola sua; manifestatum eat quid erimus:,cimus → manifestatum est quid erimus: scimus; quomam videbimus → quoniam videbimus; æterna I. Ilrec est autem vita ceterna, diceule → æterna. Hæc est autem vita æterna, dicente; cognoscant tet inquit → cognoscant te, inquit; dcsiderando → desiderando; Solus est enim tiber → Solus est enim liber; scmetipsum tenclur → semetipsum tenetur; suflicit nobis. j£ternus → sufficit nobis. Æternus; ncque enim nobis suflicit linis → neque enim nobis sufficit finis; In Qua ostensione se promisit ct Filius → In qua ostensione se promisit et Filius.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 101.5 (PL 35:1893–1895; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-101-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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101.6PL 35:1895

De hoc etiam quæ superius dicta sunt, melius existimo intelligi, Modicum et jam non videbitis me, et iterum modicum et videbitis me. Modicum est enim hoc totum spatium quo præsens pervolat saeculum: unde dicit idem ipse evangelista in Epistola sua, No­ vissima hora est. Ideo namque addidit, quia vado ad Patrem, quod ad priorem sententiam referendum est, ubi ait, Modicum et jam non videbitis me; non ad posteriorem ubi ait, et iterum modicum et videbitis me. Eundo quippe ad Patrem, facturus erat ut eum non viderent. Ac per hoc non ideo dictum est, quia fuerat moriturus, et donec resurgeret, ab eorum aspectibus recessurus; sed quod esset iturus ad Pa­ trem, quod fecit posteaquam resurrexit, et cum eis per quadraginta dies conversatus ascendit in caelum. Illis ergo ait, Modicum et jam non vide­ bitis me, qui eum corporaliter tunc videbant, quia iturus erat ad Patrem, et eum deinceps mortalem vi­ suri non erant, qualem cum ista loqueretur videbant. Quod vero addidit, et iterum modicum et videbitis me, universæ promisit Ecclesiæ: sicut universæ promisit, Ecce ego vobiscum sum usque in consummationem sæ­ culi. Non tardat Dominus pro­ missum: modicum, et videbimus eum, ubi jam nihil rogemus, nihil interrogemus; quia nihil desideran­ dum remanebit, nihil quærendum latebit. Hoc mo­ dicum longum nobis videtur, quoniam adhuc agitur: cum finitum fuerit, tunc sentiemus quam modicum fuerit. Non ergo sit gaudium nostrum quale habet mundus, de quo dictum est, Mundus autem gaudebit: nec tamen in hujus desiderii parturitione sine gaudio tristes simus, sed sicut ait Apostolus, Spe gaudentes, in tribulatione patientes; quia et ipsa parturiens, cui comparati sumus, plus gaudet de mox futura prole, quam tristis est de praesenti dolore. Sed hujus sermonis iste sit finis: habent enim quæstionem molestissimam quae sequuntur, nec brevitate coar­ ctanda sunt, ut possint commodius, si Dominus voluerit, explicari.

Of this too, I think, the words spoken above are better understood: "A little while, and you will no longer see me, and again a little while, and you will see me." For this whole span in which the present age flies past is "a little while"; hence the same evangelist says in his Epistle, "It is the last hour." For he added, "because I go to the Father," which is to be referred to the first statement, where he says, "A little while, and you will no longer see me," not to the latter, where he says, "and again a little while, and you will see me." For by going to the Father he would bring it about that they would not see him. And so it was not said because he was going to die and withdraw from their sight until he rose, but because he was going to go to the Father, which he did after he rose and had spent forty days with them, when he ascended into heaven. To those, then, who saw him bodily at that time he said, "A little while, and you will no longer see me," because he was going to the Father, and thereafter they would not see him as mortal, such as they saw him when he was saying these things. But what he added, "and again a little while, and you will see me," he promised to the whole church; just as he promised to the whole church, "Behold, I am with you until the consummation of the age." The Lord does not delay his promise: a little while, and we shall see him, where we shall ask nothing and question nothing; because nothing will remain to be desired, nothing will lie hidden to be sought. This little while seems long to us because it is still going on; when it is finished, then we shall feel how little it was. Let our joy, then, not be such as the world has, of which it was said, "But the world will rejoice"; and yet let us not be sad without joy in the travail of this desire, but, as the Apostle says, "rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation"; because the woman in labor herself, to whom we have been compared, rejoices more over the offspring soon to come than she is sad over the present pain. But let this be the end of this sermon: for what follows contains a most troublesome question, and must not be squeezed into brevity, so that it may be explained more fittingly, if the Lord wills.

John 16:16 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 2:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 28:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Pet 3:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 16:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 12:12 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The "little while" until we see Christ is the whole present age; Christ's going to the Father is why he is not now seen, and the church waits in joyful hope.

  • John 16:16, 1 John 2:18, Matt 28:20, John 16:20, and Rom 12:12 are quoted; Acts 1:3 and 2 Pet 3:9 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): hora eat. Ideo → hora est. Ideo; ad Patrem. quod → ad Patrem, quod; videbitis Me. → videbitis me.; ut cum non viderent → ut eum non viderent; non crant → non erant; rogcmus → rogemus; interrogemus;quia nibil → interrogemus; quia nihil; rcmancbit → remanebit; uobis videtur → nobis videtur; quia ct ipsa → quia et ipsa; Sul hujus sernaonis → Sed hujus sermonis; vo luerit → voluerit.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 101.6 (PL 35:1895; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-101-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 102

102.1PL 35:1895

Domini verba nunc ista tractanda sunt, Amen, amen dico vobis, si quid petieritis Patrem in nomine meo, dabit vobis. Jam dictum est in superioribus hujus do­ minici sermonis partibus, propter eos qui nonnulla pe­ tunt a Patre in Christi nomine, nec accipiunt, non peti in nomine Salvatoris quidquid petitur contra rationem salutis. Non enim sonum littera­ rum ac syllabarum, sed quod sonus ipse significat, et quod eo sono recte ac veraciter intelligitur, hoc acci­ piendus est dicere cum dicit, in nomine meo. Unde qui hoc sentit de Christo quod non est de unico Dei Filio sentiendum, non petit in ejus nomine, etiamsi non ta­ ceat litteris ac syllabis Christum; quoniam in ejus no­ mine petit, quem cogitat cum petit. Qui vero quod est de illo sentiendum sentit, ipse in ejus nomine petit; et accipit quod petit, si non contra suam salutem sem­ piternam petit. Accipit autem quando debet accipere. Quædam enim non negantur, sed ut congruo dentur tempore differuntur. Ita sane intelligendum est quod ait, dabit vobis, ut ea beneficia significata sciantur his verbis, quæ ad eos qui petunt proprie pertinent. Ex­ audiuntur quippe omnes sancti pro seipsis, non au­ tem pro omnibus exaudiuntur vel amicis vel inimicis suis, vel quibuslibet aliis: quia non utcumque dictum est, dabit; sed dabit vobis.

These words of the Lord must now be treated: "Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father anything in my name, he will give it to you." It has already been said in earlier parts of this discourse of the Lord, on account of those who ask some things of the Father in Christ's name and do not receive them, that whatever is asked against the principle of salvation is not asked in the name of the Savior. For when he says "in my name," he is to be understood to mean not the sound of letters and syllables, but what the sound itself signifies and what is rightly and truly understood by that sound. Hence one who thinks of Christ what is not to be thought of the only Son of God does not ask in his name, even if he does not leave out Christ in letters and syllables; for he asks in the name of the one he thinks of when he asks. But one who thinks of him what is to be thought, asks in his name; and he receives what he asks, if he does not ask against his own eternal salvation. But he receives it when he ought to receive it. For some things are not denied but deferred, so as to be given at the fitting time. So we must indeed understand his words "he will give to you" in such a way that the benefits signified by these words are known to be those which belong properly to the ones who ask. For all the saints are heard for themselves, but they are not heard for all, whether their friends or enemies or anyone else; because it is not said indiscriminately "he will give," but "he will give to you."

John 16:23 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: To ask in Christ's name is to ask with a true understanding of him and for what serves salvation; such prayers are granted, at the proper time, for those who ask.

  • John 16:23 is quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): non pcti in nomine → non peti in nomine; sonnm → sonum.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 102.1 (PL 35:1895; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-102-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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102.2PL 35:1895–1897

Usque modo, inquit, non petistis quidquam in no­ mine meo. Petite, et accipietis, ut gaudium vestrum sit plenum. Hoc quod dicit gaudium plenum, profecto non carnale, sed spirituale gaudium est: et quando tan­ tum erit, ut aliquid ei jam non sit addendum, procul dubio tunc erit plenum. Quidquid ergo petitur quod pertineat ad hoc gaudium consequendum, hoc est in nomine Christi petendum, si divinam intelligimus gra­ tiam, si vere beatam poscimus vitam. Quidquid autem aliud petitur, nihil petitur: non quia nulla omnino res est, sed quia in tantae rei comparatione quidquid aliud concupiscitur, nihil est. Neque enim prorsus nulla res est homo, de quo ait Apostolus: Qui se putat aliquid esse, cum nihil sit. In compara­ tione quippe spiritualis hominis, qui scit gratia Dei se esse quod est, quisquis vana praesumit, nihil est. Etiam sic ergo recte intelligi potest, Amen, amen dico vobis, si quid petieritis Patrem in nomine meo, da­ bit vobis; ut hoc quod ait, si quid, non quodlibet in­ telligatur, sed aliquid quod non in beatæ vitæ comparatione sit nihil. Et quod sequitur, Usque modo non petistis quidquam in nomine meo, duobus modis intel­ ligi potest: vel quia non in nomine meo petistis, quod nomen non sicut cognoscendum est cognovistis; vel non petistis quidquam, quoniam in comparatione rei quam petere debuistis, pro nihilo habendum est quod petistis. Ut igitur in ejus nomine non nihil, sed gaudium plenum petant (quoniam si aliquid aliud pe­ tunt, idem aliquid nihil est), exhortatur dicens, Pe­ tite, et accipietis, ut gaudium vestrum sit plenum: id est, hoc in nomine meo petite, ut gaudium vestrum sit plenum, et accipietis. Isto enim bono in petendo perseverantes sanctos suos nequaquam misericordia divina fraudabit.

"Until now," he says, "you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full." This joy that he calls full is surely not carnal but spiritual joy; and when it is so great that nothing can any longer be added to it, then beyond doubt it will be full. Whatever, then, is asked that pertains to attaining this joy is to be asked in the name of Christ, if we understand divine grace, if we seek a truly blessed life. But whatever else is asked, nothing is asked: not because it is no thing at all, but because in comparison with so great a thing whatever else is desired is nothing. For a man is not altogether nothing, of whom the Apostle says, "He who thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing." For in comparison with the spiritual man, who knows that by the grace of God he is what he is, whoever presumes on vain things is nothing. In this way too, then, can rightly be understood, "Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father anything in my name, he will give it to you": so that by "anything" is understood not just anything, but something that is not nothing in comparison with the blessed life. And what follows, "Until now you have asked nothing in my name," can be understood in two ways: either, you have not asked in my name, because you have not known the name as it is to be known; or, you have asked nothing, since in comparison with what you ought to have asked, what you have asked is to be counted as nothing. So that they may ask in his name not nothing but full joy (since if they ask something else, that something is nothing), he exhorts them, saying, "Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full"; that is, ask this in my name, that your joy may be full, and you will receive. For divine mercy will by no means cheat his saints who persevere in asking for this good.

John 16:24 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 6:3 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:10 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Only what leads to full spiritual joy is truly asked in Christ's name; anything else asked is nothing by comparison.

  • John 16:23–24 and Gal 6:3 are quoted; 1 Cor 15:10 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): tuin erit → tum erit; aliquid este → aliquid esse; nibil est. Etiam → nihil est. Etiam; com• paratione sit nibil → comparatione sit nihil; Utque modo → Usque modo; quidquamin → quidquam in; in nomino meo → in nomine meo.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 102.2 (PL 35:1895–1897; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-102-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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102.3PL 35:1897

Hæc, inquit, in proverbiis locutus sum vobis: venit hora cum jam non in proverbiis loquar vobis, sed palam de Patre meo annuntiabo vobis. Possem dicere hanc de qua loquitur horam, futurum oportere saeculum in­ telligi, ubi videbimus palam, quod beatus Paulus di­ cit, facie ad faciem; ut quod ait, Hæc in proverbiis lo­ cutus sum vobis, hoc sit quod ab eodem apostolo di­ ctum est, Videmus nunc per speculum in ænigmate: annuntiabo autem vobis, quia per Filium Pater videbitur, juxta illud quod alibi ait, Ne­ que Patrem quis cognoscit, nisi Filius, et cui voluerit Filius revelare. Sed istum sensum videtur impedire quod sequitur: Illo die in nomine meo petetis. In futuro enim sæculo cum pervenerimus ad regnum, ubi similes ei erimus, quoniam videbimus eum sicuti est, quid petituri sumus, quando satiabitur in bonis desiderium nostrum? Unde et in alio psalmo dicitur: Satiabor cum manifestabitur gloria tua. Petitio nam­ que alicujus est indigentiæ, quæ ibi nulla erit ubi hæc satietas erit.

"These things I have spoken to you in proverbs; the hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in proverbs, but will tell you plainly about my Father." I could say that this hour of which he speaks is to be understood as the age to come, where we shall see openly, as blessed Paul says, face to face; so that his saying, "These things I have spoken to you in proverbs," is what was said by the same apostle, "We see now through a mirror in an enigma"; and "I will tell you," because the Father will be seen through the Son, according to what he says elsewhere, "Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." But what follows seems to stand in the way of this sense: "In that day you will ask in my name." For in the age to come, when we have reached the kingdom, where we shall be like him because we shall see him as he is, what shall we ask, when our desire will be satisfied with good things? Hence it is said in another psalm too: "I shall be satisfied when your glory is made manifest." For asking belongs to some need, and there will be none where there is this fullness.

John 16:25 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:26 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:27 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 3:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 103:5 (102:5 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 17:15 (16:15 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The promised hour of plain speech cannot simply be the age to come, since there will be no asking there, where all desire is satisfied.

  • John 16:25–26, 1 Cor 13:12, Matt 11:27, 1 John 3:2, and Ps 17:15 (LXX 16:15) are quoted; Ps 103:5 is echoed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): boc sit quod → hoc sit quod; Fi/ius → Filius; siculi est → sicuti est; et ip alio psalmo → et in alio psalmo; indigentise → indigentiæ.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 102.3 (PL 35:1897; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-102-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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102.4PL 35:1897

Relinquitur itaque, quantum sapere valeo, ut intelligatur Jesus discipulos suos de carnalibus vel animalibus se spirituales promisisse facturum, quam­ vis nondum tales quales erimus, quando spirituale etiam corpus habebimus; sed qualis erat qui dicebat, « Sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos »; et, « Non potui vobis loqui quasi spiritualibus, sed quasi carnalibus >; et, « Non spiritum hu­ jus mundi accepimus, sed Spiritum qui ex Deo est, ut sciamus quæ a Deo donata sunt nobis; quæ et lo­ quimur, non in sapientiæ humanae doctis verbis, sed doctis Spiritus, spiritualibus spiritualia comparantes. Animalis autem homo non percipit quae sunt Spiritus Dei. » Non itaque percipiens quæ sunt Spiritus Dei homo animalis, sic audit quæcumque audit de Dei na­ tura, ut aliud quam corpus cogitare non possit, quam­ libet amplissimum vel immensum, quamlibet lucidum ac speciosum, corpus tamen: ideo proverbia illi sunt quæcumque dicta sapientiæ de incorporea immutabili que substantia; non quod ea tanquam proverbia de­ putat, sed quia sic cogitat, quomodo qui proverbia solent audire neque intelligere. Cum vero spiritualis coeperit omnia dijudicare, ipse autem a nemine diju­ dicari, etiamsi in hac vita adhuc velut per speculum ex parte, perspicit tamen non ullo corporis sensu, non ulla imaginaria cogitatione quæ capit aut fingit qualiumcumque similitudines corporum, sed mentis certissima intelligentia, Deum non corpus esse, sed spiritum: ita palam de Patre annuntiante Filio, ut ejusdem substantiae conspiciatur et ipse qui annuntiat. Tunc in ejus nomine petunt qui petunt; quia in sono ejus nominis non aliud quam res ipsa est quæ hoc nomine vocatur, intelligunt, nec animi vani­ tate vel infirmitate confingunt tanquam in alio loco Patrem, in alio Filium ante Patrem stantem, et pro nobis rogantem, spatia sua quæque amborum occu­ pantibus molibus, et Verbum ad eum cujus est Ver­ bum facere verba pro nobis, intervallo interposito in­ ter os loquentis et auriculas audientis; et alia talia quæ sibi animales, iidemque carnales in cordibus fabrican­ tur. Quidquid enim tale spiritualibus de Deo cogitan­ tibus ex corporum consuetudine occurrit, negando atque respuendo, tanquam importunas muscas, ab in­ terioribus oculis abigunt; et sinceritati ejus lucis acquiescunt, qua teste ac judice has ipsas imagines corporum suis infernis aspectibus irruentes, falsas omnino esse convincunt. Hi possunt utcumque cogi­ tare Dominum nostrum Jesum Christum in quantum homo est, pro nobis interpellare Patrem; in quantum autem Deus est, nos exaudire cum Patre. Quod eum significasse arbitror ubi ait, Et non dico vobis quia ego rogabo Patrem de vobis. Ad hoc quippe intuendum quomodo non rogat Patrem Filius, sed simul exaudiunt rogantes Pater et Filius, nonnisi spiritualis ocu­ lus mentis ascendit.

It remains, then, as far as I can understand, that Jesus is to be understood as having promised that he would make his disciples spiritual instead of carnal or natural; not yet such as we shall be when we have a spiritual body too, but such as he was who said, "We speak wisdom among the perfect," and, "I could not speak to you as to spiritual people, but as to carnal," and, "We have received not the spirit of this world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we may know the things given us by God; which we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not perceive the things of the Spirit of God." So the natural man, not perceiving the things of the Spirit of God, hears whatever he hears about the nature of God in such a way that he cannot think of anything but a body, however vast or immense, however bright and beautiful, yet a body. Therefore whatever wisdom says of the incorporeal and immutable substance is proverbs to him; not that he regards it as proverbs, but because he thinks in the way of those who are used to hearing proverbs and not understanding them. But when the spiritual man has begun to judge all things, while he himself is judged by no one, then, even if in this life he still sees as through a mirror and in part, yet he perceives, not by any bodily sense nor by any imaginative thought that grasps or forms likenesses of bodies of any kind, but by the most certain understanding of the mind, that God is not a body but spirit: the Son so telling plainly of the Father that he himself who tells is seen to be of the same substance. Then those who ask, ask in his name; because in the sound of his name they understand nothing other than the very reality called by this name, and they do not, through vanity or weakness of mind, imagine the Father in one place and the Son in another, standing before the Father and asking for us, each of them with a mass occupying its own space, and the Word speaking words for us to him whose Word he is, with an interval between the mouth of the speaker and the ears of the hearer; and other such things which the natural, who are also carnal, fabricate for themselves in their hearts. For whatever of this kind occurs to the spiritual from the habit of bodies when they think of God, they drive away from their inner eyes like troublesome flies, by denying and rejecting it; and they rest in the purity of that light by whose testimony and judgment they prove altogether false these very images of bodies rushing upon their lower sight. These can in some way think that our Lord Jesus Christ, insofar as he is man, intercedes for us with the Father, but, insofar as he is God, hears us together with the Father. This I think he signified where he says, "And I do not say to you that I will ask the Father for you." For only the spiritual eye of the mind rises to see how the Son does not ask the Father, but the Father and the Son together hear those who ask.

1 Cor 15:44 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:1 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:13 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:15 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (allusion, high confidence) · John 4:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 8:34 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 16:26 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The promised plain speech is the spiritual understanding of God as incorporeal; the spiritual know that Christ as man intercedes for us and as God hears us with the Father.

  • 1 Cor 2:6, 3:1, 2:12–14, and John 16:26 are quoted; 1 Cor 15:44, 1 Cor 2:15, 1 Cor 13:12, John 4:24, and Rom 8:34 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (quotation marks); stray mark): Uelinquitur → Relinquitur; carnalibos → carnalibus; qualcs crimus → quales erimus; < Sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos > → « Sapientiam loquimur inter perfectos »; et, t Non potui → et, « Non potui; et, < Non spiritnm hu → et, « Non spiritum hu; qux et lo → quæ et lo; doctis Spiritus I, → doctis Spiritus,; spir itualia → spiritualia; ncque intelligere → neque intelligere; a uemine → a nemine; cor poris → corporis; ca pit → capit; corporum. sed → corporum, sed; noa corpus → non corpus; nee animi → nec animi; pro nobis. rogantem → pro nobis rogantem; Quod eum, significasse → Quod eum significasse; qnomodo → quomodo; exau. diunt → exaudiunt.

Topics: Trinity, Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 102.4 (PL 35:1897; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-102-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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102.5PL 35:1897

Ipse enim Pater, inquit, amat vos, quia vos me amastis. Ideo amat ille, quia nos amamus; an potius, quia ille amat, ideo nos amamus? Ex Epistola sua evangelista idem ipse respondeat: Nos diligimus, in­ quit, quia prior ipse dilexit nos. Hinc ergo factum est ut diligeremus, quia dilecti sumus. Prorsus donum Dei est diligere Deum. Ipse ut dilige­ retur dedit, qui non dilectus dilexit. Displicentes amati sumus, ut esset in nobis unde placeremus. Non enim amaremus Filium, nisi amaremus et Patrem. Amat nos Pater, quia nos amamus Filium; cum a Patre et Filio acceperimus ut et Patrem amemus et Filium: diffundit enim charitatem in cordibus no­ stris amborum Spiritus, per quem Spi­ ritum et Patrem amamus et Filium, et quem Spiritum cum Patre amamus et Filio. Amorem itaque nostrum, pium quo colimus Deum, fecit Deus, et vidit quia bo­ num est, ideo quippe amavit ipse quod fecit. Sed in nobis non faceret quod amaret, nisi antequam id fa­ ceret, nos amaret.

"For the Father himself loves you," he says, "because you have loved me." Does he love because we love, or rather do we love because he loves? Let the same evangelist answer from his Epistle: "We love," he says, "because he first loved us." So it came about that we love because we were loved. Plainly, to love God is the gift of God. He who loved when he was not loved gave us to love him. We were loved while we displeased, so that there might be in us that by which we would please. For we would not love the Son unless we loved the Father too. The Father loves us because we love the Son, since we have received from the Father and the Son the power to love both the Father and the Son: for the Spirit of both pours out love in our hearts, the Spirit through whom we love both the Father and the Son, and whom we love together with the Father and the Son. So God made our devout love, by which we worship God, and he saw that it was good; that is why he himself loved what he made. But he would not make in us something to love unless he loved us before he made it.

John 16:27 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 4:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:31 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: God's love comes first: our love for God is his gift, poured out by the Spirit of Father and Son.

  • John 16:27 and 1 John 4:19 are quoted; Rom 5:5 and Gen 1:31 are echoed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): noe amamus → nos amamus; dilexit nea. Hine → dilexit nos. Hinc; et.Patrem → et Patrem; difFundit → diffundit; in nobii → in nobis.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 102.5 (PL 35:1897; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-102-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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102.6PL 35:1897–1899

Et credidistis, inquit, quia a Deo exivi. Exivi a Patre et veni in mundum: iterum relinquo mundum, et vado ad Patrem. Plane credidimus. Neque enim pro­ pterea debet incredibile videri, quia sic ad mundum veniens exiit a Patre, ut non desereret Patrem; et sic vadit ad Patrem relicto mundo, ut non deserat mun­ dum. Exiit enim a Patre, quia de Patre est: in mun­ dum venit, quia mundo suum corpus ostendit quod de Virgine assumpsit. Reliquit mundum corporali discessione, porrexit ad Patrem hominis ascensione, nec mundum deseruit præsentiæ gubernatione.

"And you have believed," he says, "that I came forth from God. I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; again I leave the world and go to the Father." We have fully believed. Nor should it seem incredible on this account that in coming to the world he came forth from the Father in such a way as not to desert the Father, and goes to the Father, leaving the world, in such a way as not to desert the world. For he came forth from the Father because he is of the Father; he came into the world because he showed the world his body, which he took from the Virgin. He left the world by bodily departure, he went to the Father by the ascension of the man, and he did not desert the world, which he governs by his presence.

John 16:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:28 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ came from the Father without leaving him, and returns to the Father without deserting the world he governs.

  • John 16:27–28 is quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Esivi → Exivi; et rado → et vado; ineredtbile vidcri → incredibile videri; ut nan desereret → ut non desereret; Yirginc → Virgine; nee mundum → nec mundum.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 102.6 (PL 35:1897–1899; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-102-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 103

103.1PL 35:1899

Quales erant discipuli Christi, quando cum eis ante passionem loquebatur magna cum parvis, sed sicut oportebat ut magna dicerentur et parvis, quia non­ dum accepto Spiritu sancto, quemadmodum eum post ejus resurrectionem vel ipso insufflante, vel desuper acceperunt, humana magis quam divina sapiebant, multis judiciis per totum Evangelium declaratur: unde et hoc est quod in ista lectione dixerunt. Ait enim Evangelista: « Dicunt ei discipuli ejus: Ecce nunc palam loqueris, et proverbium nullum dicis: nunc scimus quia nosti omnia, et non opus est tibi ut quis te interroget; in hoc credimus quia a Deo existi. » Ipse Dominus paulo ante dixerat, « Haec in proverbiis locutus sum vobis: venit hora cum jam non in proverbiis loquar vobis. Quomodo ergo isti dicunt, Ecce nunc pa­ lam loqueris, et proverbium nullum dicis? Numquid hora jam venerat, qua non jam in proverbiis se promiserat locuturum? Prorsus quod nondum illa hora venisset, continuatio verborum ejus ostendit, quae ita sese ha­. bet: « Hæc, inquit, in proverbiis locutus sum vobis: venit hora cum jam non in proverbiis loquar vobis, sed palam de Patre meo annuntiabo vobis. Illo die in nomine meo petetis: et non dico vobis quia ego ro­ gabo Patrem de vobis; ipse enim Pater amat vos, quia vos me amastis, et credidistis quia ego a Deo exivi. Exivi a Patre, et veni in mundum: iterum relinquo mundum, et vado ad Patrem ». Cum per haec omnia verba adhuc illam promittat ho­ ram qua non jam in proverbiis loquetur, sed palam de Patre annuntiabit eis; in qua hora dicit eos in suo nomine petituros, nec se Patrem de illis rogaturum, eo quod ipse Pater amet eos, quia et ipsi amaverunt Christum, et crediderunt quod a Patre exierit et re­ nerit in mundum, iterum relicturus mundum et iturus ad Patrem: cum ergo adhuc promittatur hora illa in qua sine proverbiis locuturus est, cur isti dicunt, Ecce nunc palam loqueris et proverbium nullum dicis; nisi quia illa quæ scit ipse non intelligentibus esse proverbia, illi usque adeo non intelligunt, ut nec saltem non se intelligere intelligant? Parvuli enim erant, et nondum spiritualiter dijudicabant, quæ de rebus non ad corpus, sed ad spiritum pertinentibus audiebant.

What Christ's disciples were like when he spoke with them before his passion, saying great things to little ones, but as great things had to be said even to little ones, is shown by many signs throughout the Gospel: not yet having received the Holy Spirit as they received him after his resurrection, either by his breathing on them or from above, they thought of human things more than of divine. And from this too comes what they said in this reading. For the evangelist says: "His disciples said to him, See, now you are speaking plainly and are using no proverb. Now we know that you know all things and do not need anyone to question you; by this we believe that you came forth from God." The Lord himself had said a little before, "These things I have spoken to you in proverbs; the hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in proverbs." How then do they say, "See, now you are speaking plainly and are using no proverb"? Had the hour already come in which he had promised that he would no longer speak in proverbs? That that hour had certainly not yet come is shown by the continuation of his words, which runs thus: "These things I have spoken to you in proverbs; the hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in proverbs, but will tell you plainly about my Father. In that day you will ask in my name; and I do not say to you that I will ask the Father for you; for the Father himself loves you, because you have loved me and have believed that I came forth from God. I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; again I leave the world and go to the Father." By all these words he is still promising that hour in which he will no longer speak in proverbs but will tell them plainly about the Father; the hour in which, he says, they will ask in his name, and he will not ask the Father for them, because the Father himself loves them, since they have loved Christ and believed that he came forth from the Father and came into the world, and would again leave the world and go to the Father. Since, then, that hour in which he will speak without proverbs is still being promised, why do they say, "See, now you are speaking plainly and are using no proverb," unless because what he knows to be proverbs to those who do not understand, they understand so little that they do not even understand that they do not understand? For they were little ones, and did not yet judge spiritually the things they heard about matters belonging not to the body but to the spirit.

John 20:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 2:2 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 16:29 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:25 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:28 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The disciples thought Christ was already speaking plainly, though the promised hour had not come; as little ones they did not understand that they did not understand.

  • John 16:25–30 is quoted; John 20:22 and Acts 2:2 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (quotation mark)): CbrisLi → Christi; qucmadmodum eum → quemadmodum eum; < Haec in proverbiis locutus sumvobis: venithoracum jam → « Haec in proverbiis locutus sum vobis: venit hora cum jam; Pronus quod nondum iUa hora → Prorsus quod nondum illa hora; vado ad Patrem %. → vado ad Patrem ».; non jam iti proverbiis → non jam in proverbiis; nee se Patrem → nec se Patrem; Cbristum → Christum; inteUigentibus esse pro-. verbia → intelligentibus esse proverbia; Parvuli enim crant → Parvuli enim erant.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 103.1 (PL 35:1899; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-103-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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103.2PL 35:1899

Denique de ipsa eorum aetate adhuc secundum interiorem hominem parva et infirma eos admonens, « Respondit eis Jesus: Modo creditis? Ecce venit hora, et jam venit, ut dispergamini unusquisque in propria, et me solum relinquatis. Et non sum solus, quia Pater mecum est. » Paulo ante dixerat, « Re­ linquo mundum, et vado ad Patrem »; nunc dicit, « Pater mecum est. » Quis vadit ad eum qui cum illo est? Sed hoc intelligenti est verbum, non intelligenti proverbium: sic tamen quod modo a parvulis non intelligitur, utcumque sugitur; et eis etiam si non praebet, quia nondum eum capiunt, solidum cibum, saltem lacteum non denegat alimentum. Ex hoc ali­ mento est, quod sciebant eum nosse omnia, nec opus ei esse ut eum quis interroget: quod quidem cur di­ xerint, quaeri potest. Videtur enim potius fuisse dicendum, Non opus est tibi ut quemquam interroges; non, ut quis te interroget. Dixerunt quippe, Scimus quia nosti omnia: et utique qui novit omnia, magis a nescientibus interrogari solet, ut interrogantes au­ diant quod volunt, ab eo qui novit omnia; non ipse interrogare, tanquam volens aliquid scire, qui novit omnia. Quid sibi ergo vult, quod ei quem sciebant nosse omnia, cum dicere debuisse videantur, Non opus est tibi ut quemquam interroges, dicendum potius putaverunt, Non opus est tibi ut quis te interroget? Quid quod utrumque legimus factum, et interrogasse scilicet Dominum, et interrogatum fuisse? Sed hoc cito solvitur: quia hoc non ei, sed illis potius opus erat quos interrogabat, vel a quibus interrogabatur. Neque enim aliquos ille interrogabat, ut ab eis aliquid disceret, sed eos potius ut doceret. Et qui interroga­ bant eum, volentes ab eo aliquid discere, illis profecto id opus erat, ut scirent aliqua ab illo qui noverat omnia. Nimirum ergo propterea non opus erat ut eum quis interrogaret. Quoniam nos quando interrogamur ab eis qui volunt aliquid a nobis scire, ex ipsis inter­ rogationibus eorum cognoscimus quid velint discere; opus est ergo nobis ab eis interrogari, quos docere aliquid volumus, ut inquisitiones eorum quibus re­ spondendum est noverimus: illi autem ne id quidem opus erat, qui omnia noverat; nec opus habebat quod ab eo quisque scire vellet, per ejus interrogationem cognoscere, quia prius quam interrogaretur, interro­ gaturi noverat voluntatem. Sed ideo se patiebatur in­ terrogari, ut vel eis qui tunc aderant, vel qui hæc sive dicta fuerant audituri, sive scripta lecturi, quales essent, a quibus interrogabatur, ostenderet; eoque modo nossemus vel quibus non circumveniretur frau­ dibus, vel quibus apud eum proficeretur accessibus. Praevidere autem cogitationes hominum, et ideo non opus habere ut eum quis interrogaret, magnum Deo non erat, sed magnum parvulis erat qui ei dicebant, In hoc credimus quia a Deo existi. Multo autem majus erat, ad quod intelligendum eos volebat extendi et crescere, quod cum illi dixissent, verumque dixissent, a Deo existi, ait ille, Pater mecum est; ne sic a Patre Filium cogitarent exisse, ut putarent etiam rece­ sisse.

Finally, admonishing them about that age of theirs, still small and weak according to the inner man, "Jesus answered them: Do you now believe? Behold, the hour is coming, and has now come, when you will be scattered, each to his own, and will leave me alone. And I am not alone, because the Father is with me." A little before he had said, "I leave the world and go to the Father"; now he says, "The Father is with me." Who goes to one who is with him? But this is a word to one who understands, a proverb to one who does not understand; yet what is not yet understood by little ones is somehow sucked in; and even if it does not give them solid food, because they do not yet grasp it, at least it does not deny them the nourishment of milk. It was from this nourishment that they knew he knew all things and that there was no need for anyone to question him; why they said this may be asked. For it seems that they should rather have said, "You have no need to question anyone," not, "that anyone should question you." For they said, "We know that you know all things"; and certainly one who knows all things is more usually questioned by those who do not know, so that the questioners may hear what they want from the one who knows all things, rather than that he himself, who knows all things, should question others as though wishing to know something. What then does it mean that to him whom they knew to know all things, when it seems they should have said, "You have no need to question anyone," they thought they should rather say, "You have no need that anyone question you"? And what of the fact that we read of both, that the Lord both questioned and was questioned? But this is quickly solved: because the need was not his, but rather theirs whom he questioned or by whom he was questioned. For he did not question anyone in order to learn something from them, but rather to teach them. And those who questioned him, wishing to learn something from him, certainly needed this, so as to know something from him who knew all things. Surely, then, it was for this reason that there was no need for anyone to question him. For when we are questioned by those who want to know something from us, we learn from their very questions what they want to learn; so we need to be questioned by those we want to teach something, so that we may know the inquiries we must answer. But he did not need even this, who knew all things; nor did he need to learn through anyone's questioning what each wanted to know from him, because before he was questioned he knew the will of the one who was going to question him. But he allowed himself to be questioned so that he might show, either to those who were then present or to those who would hear these things spoken or read them written, what sort of people those were by whom he was questioned; and so that in this way we might know by what frauds he was not deceived, or by what approaches one made progress with him. To foresee the thoughts of men, and so not to need anyone to question him, was no great thing for God; but it was a great thing for the little ones who said to him, "By this we believe that you came forth from God." But much greater was the truth to the understanding of which he wanted them to stretch out and grow: when they had said, and said truly, "You came forth from God," he said, "The Father is with me," lest they think the Son came forth from the Father in such a way as to have withdrawn from him.

John 16:31 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:30 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ, who knew all things, needed no questions; he let himself be questioned for the sake of the questioners, and told the disciples that the Father was with him so they would not think he had left the Father.

  • John 16:31–32, 16:28, and 16:30 are quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): nic solum → me solum; linqoo → linquo; vado ad Patrem; * nune dicit → vado ad Patrem »; nunc dicit; ad euin qui → ad eum qui; utctiinque → utcumque; si hon praebet, quia nondum eum eapiunt → si non praebet, quia nondum eum capiunt; debegat → denegat; cur dl → cur di; quaeri pOtest. Vidc:ur enim potius fuisse dl- / cendum → quaeri potest. Videtur enim potius fuisse dicendum; ut quis le interroget. Dixerunt qulppe, Scintus quia nosti omma → ut quis te interroget. Dixerunt quippe, Scimus quia nosti omnia; diam quod volunt → diant quod volunt; novit Omnia; nt1n → novit omnia; non; qui novil omnia → qui novit omnia; Non opus eat tibi ut qui; te tntetroget → Non opus est tibi ut quis te interroget; 6t interrogasse → et interrogasse; quia hOc noh ei → quia hoc non ei; aliquds ille → aliquos ille; quid vclint → quid velint; prius quam interrogarctur → prius quam interrogaretur; Praevidcre autem cogitationes bominum, et ideo non opus babere ut eum quis interrogarct → Praevidere autem cogitationes hominum, et ideo non opus habere ut eum quis interrogaret; qni ei dicebant → qui ei dicebant; a Deo existi Multo autcm majus crat, ad quod intclligendum → a Deo existi. Multo autem majus erat, ad quod intelligendum; recea → rece.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 103.2 (PL 35:1899; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-103-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.

103.3PL 35:1899–1901

Deinde sermonem istum magnum prolixumque concludens: Hæc, inquit, locutus sum vobis, ut in me pacem habeatis. In mundo pressuram habebitis; sed confidite, ego vici mundum. Illud initium fuerat habi­ turæ istius pressuræ, de quo superius ut eos ostenderet parvulos, quibus adhuc non intelligentibus et aliud pro alio sentientibus, proverbia quodammodo essent quæcumque magna et divina dixisset, ait, Modo cre­ ditis? Ecce venit hora, et jam venit, ut dispergamini unusquisque in propria. Ecce initium pressurae, sed non eo modo perseveraturae. Quod enim adjunxit, et me solum relinquatis, non vult eos tales esse in con­ sequenti pressura, quam post ejus ascensionem in mundo fuerant habituri, ut relinquant eum; sed ut in illo pacem habeant permanentes in eo. Non enim quando comprehensus est, tantummodo carne sua ejus carnem, verum etiam mente reliquerunt fidem. Ad hoc pertinet quod ait, Modo creditis? Ecce venit hora, ut dispergamini in propria, et me relinquatis: tanquam diceret, Tunc ita perturbabimini, ut etiam quod modo creditis, relinquatis. Venerunt enim ad tantam desperationem, et suæ pristinæ fidei, ut ita dixerim, mortem, quanta apparuit in illo Cleopha, qui post ejus resurrectionem cum illo se loqui ne­ sciens, et quid ei contigerit narrans, Nos, inquit, sperabamus quod ipse fuerat redempturus Israel. Ecce quomodo eum reliquerant, dese­ rendo etiam ipsam fidem qua in eum ante crediderant. In ea vero pressura quam post ejus glorificationem accepto Spiritu sancto pertulerunt, non eum relique­ runt: et quamvis fugerent de civitate in civitatem, ab ipso non refugerunt; sed ut habentes pressuram in mundo, in illo pacem tenerent, non ab ipso refugerunt, sed ipsum potius refugium habuerunt. Dato quippe illis Spiritu sancto, factum est in eis quod nunc dictum est eis, Confidite, ego vici mundum, Con­ fiderunt, et vicerunt. In quo, nisi in illo? Non enim vicisset ille mundum, si ejus membra vinceret mun­ dus. Unde ait Apostolus, Gratias Deo, qui dat nobis victoriam; continuoque subjecit, per Dominum no­ strum Jesum Christum: qui dixerat suis, Confidite, ego vici mundum.

Then, concluding this great and long discourse, he says: "These things I have spoken to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but take courage, I have overcome the world." The beginning of the tribulation they were to have was that of which he spoke above, to show them that they were little ones, to whom, since they did not yet understand and took one thing for another, whatever great and divine things he had said were in a way proverbs, when he said, "Do you now believe? Behold, the hour is coming, and has now come, when you will be scattered, each to his own." See the beginning of tribulation, but not one that would continue in that way. For as to what he added, "and will leave me alone," he does not want them to be such in the tribulation that followed, which they would have in the world after his ascension, as to leave him; but rather that they should have peace in him, abiding in him. For when he was seized, they left not only his flesh with their flesh, but also faith with their mind. To this belongs his saying, "Do you now believe? Behold, the hour is coming when you will be scattered to your own and will leave me"; as if he said, Then you will be so troubled that you will abandon even what you now believe. For they came to such despair and, so to speak, death of their former faith as appeared in that Cleopas who, after his resurrection, not knowing that he was talking with him and telling him what had happened, said, "We had hoped that he was the one who would redeem Israel." See how they had left him, deserting even the faith with which they had believed in him before. But in the tribulation which they endured after his glorification, having received the Holy Spirit, they did not leave him; and although they fled from city to city, they did not flee from him; rather, so that, having tribulation in the world, they might keep peace in him, they did not flee from him but had him as their refuge. For when the Holy Spirit was given them, there was done in them what was now said to them: "Take courage, I have overcome the world." They took courage, and they overcame. In whom, if not in him? For he would not have overcome the world if the world overcame his members. Hence the Apostle says, "Thanks be to God, who gives us the victory," and at once added, "through our Lord Jesus Christ," who had said to his own, "Take courage, I have overcome the world."

John 16:33 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:31 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 10:23 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:57 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: At Christ's arrest the disciples abandoned even their faith, but after receiving the Spirit they kept peace in him through persecution and overcame the world in him.

  • John 16:33, 16:31–32, Luke 24:21, and 1 Cor 15:57 are quoted; Matt 10:23 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (Greek letter); OCR slip (Greek letters for Latin)): νοbis, ut in ma pacem habentis → vobis, ut in me pacem habeatis; sea confidite → sed confidite; mura ista prmura, de quo supcrius → turæ istius pressuræ, de quo superius; ei aliud pro alio → et aliud pro alio; el jam νenit → et jam venit; sed uon eo modo → sed non eo modo; noR vult → non vult; pertinct → pertinet; Ecce νenit hora → Ecce venit hora; diceret. Tune ita → diceret, Tunc ita; Venerint enim → Venerunt enim; et sum pristinæ fidei, ut ita dixcrim → et suæ pristinæ fidei, ut ita dixerim; Nos, inquis → Nos, inquit; in eam aute crediderant → in eum ante crediderant; rełique → relique; babentes pressuram In mundo → habentes pressuram in mundo; rei. fuerunt → refugerunt; Spiritu saneto, factum eat in eis quod nanc dictum → Spiritu sancto, factum est in eis quod nunc dictum; fidcrunt → fiderunt; Noti enim vicissot → Non enim vicisset.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 103.3 (PL 35:1899–1901; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/101-1/#p-103-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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