Against Cresconius, a Donatist Grammarian 4.36–4.55
Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 52 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, Contra Cresconium (CSEL 52, 1909), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).
Chapter 4
4.36CSEL 52:535–536
Uides certe, dum manifestos errores defendere conaris alienos, nihil te agere nisi subiungere manifestiores tuos. ecce lege uerba tua — sic a me prorsus commemorantur ut a te scripta sunt —: cum quam plurimos, inquis, episcopos error sibi Maximiani sociare contenderet, contracto a nostris concilio in eos omnes, qui in eius schismate perstitissent, prolata sententia est, quam tu quoque te legisse testaris. quae cum sententia consensu omnium firmaretur, placuit tamen decreto concilii dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. haec dicens sicine contra te ipsum sensus claudis, ut non aduertas, quod hi omnes, qui propterea contra se ferri sententiam concilii meruerunt, quia Maximiano sociabantur. antequam se intra dilationis tempus corrigerent. in eodem schismate consistebant? ibi ergo etiam baptizabant. obsecro te: quid inanem caliginem perspicuis rebus aspergis, quam rursus tuorum uerborum non minore perspicuitate dispergis? dico enim Praetextatum et Felicianum Maximiani ordinatores in eo quod commiserunt sacrilego schismate baptizasse et ab eis baptizatos cum eis esse susceptos non rescisso baptismate, quod in schismate dederant, quod sacrilegi ministrauerant, quod ore maledictione pleno, quod labiis cum ueneno aspidum consecrauerant. talia quippe in eos dicuntur ea sententia, quam in eos omnes prolatam esse non negas.
You surely see that, while you try to defend others' manifest errors, you do nothing but add your own more manifest ones. See, read your words (they are quoted by me exactly as you wrote them): “When the error of Maximian,” you say, “strove to join as many bishops as possible to itself, a council was gathered by our people and a sentence was pronounced against all who had persisted in his schism, which you too testify that you have read. When this sentence was confirmed by the consent of all, it was nevertheless decided by the council's decree to grant an extension of time, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be held innocent.” Saying this, do you so close your senses against yourself as not to notice that all these, who earned the council's sentence against them because they were associated with Maximian, were standing in that same schism before they corrected themselves within the time of extension? There, then, they also baptized. I beg you, why do you sprinkle an empty fog over plain things, which you again disperse with no less plainness of your own words? For I say that Praetextatus and Felicianus, ordainers of Maximian, baptized in the sacrilegious schism they committed, and that those baptized by them were received with them, the baptism not being cancelled which they had given in schism, which they had ministered as sacrilegious men, which they had consecrated with a mouth full of cursing and with lips bearing the poison of asps. For such things are said against them in that sentence which you do not deny was pronounced against them all.
Rom 3:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:14 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine repeats Cresconius's own words to show that the Maximianists were in schism, and baptized there, before their return.
- Rom 3:13–14.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Garbled word order (as quoted in 3.18).; OCR slip: cum for quam.; OCR slip: missing final t.): cum cum plurimos → cum quam plurimos; contendere, contracto → contenderet, contracto; quam in quoque tu legisse → quam tu quoque te legisse.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.36 (CSEL 52:535–536; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.37CSEL 52:536–537
Hic tu respondes, quod non solum duo isti quos memoro, sed etiam multi alii purgati atque innocentes intra diem dilationis se ecclesiae reddiderunt. quo uerbo me adiuuas, quo uerbo mecum asseris ueritatem caliginemque illam, quam conabaris offundere, discutis. cum enim dicis eos se ecclesiae reddidisse, procul dubio fateris eos extra ecclesiam fuisse. ubi ergo antequam se ecclesiae redderent fuerunt, ibi baptizauerunt; ergo extra ecclesiam baptisma fuit quod dederunt. ab hoc inexplicabili inplicamento dum te conaris euoluere, rursus inuolueris. dicis enim ideo eorum baptisma non debuisse rescindi, quia intra diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur. quomodo ergo dicis ante diem restitutionis non fuisse ab ecclesia separatos, quos ante diem dilationis confiteris ecclesiae restitutos? si homines sumus. si qualemcumque rationem, si sensum habemus humanum, si non pecora pecoribus, si non ligna et lapides lignis et lapidibus loquimur. non meis tantum, sed ipsis etiam tuis uerbis eminet apparet elucet in Maximiani sacrilego schismate baptismum datum uestros ausos non fuisse rescindere, qui homines baptizatos in ecclesiis, quas in gratia domini proprio labore apostoli propagarunt, non dubitant christianos negare exsufflare rebaptizare. tu dicis, tu scribis — ecce te ipsum audi, lege te ipsum —, tu, inquam, dicis, tu scribis in eos omnes, qui in Maximiani schismate perstitissent, contracto a uestris concilio prolatam esse sententiam; tu dicis, tu scribis hac sententia consensu omnium confirmata placuisse tamen dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur; tu dicis, tu scribis non solum duos inde quos memoro, sed multos alios purgatos atque innocentes se uestrae ecclesiae reddidisse; tu dicis, tu scribis ideo eorum baptisma non debuisse rescindi, quia intra diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur.
Here you answer that not only these two whom I mention but also many others, cleared and innocent, restored themselves to the church within the day of the extension. By this word you help me; by this word you assert the truth with me and disperse the fog you were trying to pour over it. For when you say they restored themselves to the church, you certainly confess that they had been outside the church. Where, then, they were before they restored themselves to the church, there they baptized; so the baptism they gave was outside the church. While you try to roll yourself out of this inextricable entanglement, you are wrapped up again. For you say their baptism ought not to have been cancelled because, restored within the appointed day, they were not held by the final sentence. How then do you say that before the day of restoration they had not been separated from the church, whom you admit were restored to the church before the day of the extension? If we are men, if we have any reason at all, if we have human sense, if we are not cattle speaking to cattle, nor wood and stones to wood and stones, it stands out, appears, and shines forth, not only from my words but even from yours, that your people did not dare to cancel baptism given in Maximian's sacrilegious schism; they who do not hesitate to deny that men baptized in the churches which the apostles, by the grace of the Lord, spread by their own labor are Christians, and to exorcise and rebaptize them. You say, you write (see, hear yourself, read yourself), you, I say, say and write that a sentence was pronounced against all who had persisted in Maximian's schism, a council having been gathered by your people; you say, you write, that, this sentence having been confirmed by the consent of all, it was nevertheless decided to grant an extension of time, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be held innocent; you say, you write, that not only the two from there whom I mention, but many others, cleared and innocent, restored themselves to your church; you say, you write, that their baptism therefore ought not to have been cancelled, because, restored within the appointed day, they were not held by the final sentence.
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Summary: Augustine presses that “restored to the church” means they had been outside it and baptized there, as Cresconius's own words admit.
- The last words of the section are garbled in the digital text and are completed from Cresconius's words quoted in 3.18.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Garbled ending in the digital text (as quoted in 3.18).): non tene. quomodo. → non tenerentur..
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.37 (CSEL 52:536–537; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.38CSEL 52:537–538
Quid, quid tantum praeualet in ingenio tam bono causa tam mala, homo cordate, homo litterate? isti, in quos propterea est illa prolata sententia, quia, sicut ipse dicis, in Maximiani schismate persistebant, antequam, sicut dicis, restituerentur, ubi erant ibi sacramenta celebrabant, ibi baptizabant et, ut uerbis illius plenarii concilii magis utar, ibi uiperei seminis noxios partus tardo calore uaporabant, ibi publici facinoris et parricidii sui feta scelerum uota gignebant, ibi parturiebant iniustitiam, concipiebant laborem et pariebant iniquitatem, ibi iam non confusa criminum silua nomina eorum designabantur ad poenam, ibi eis (in) indulgentiae fine, dum clementiae dimitteretur linea, iam causa quos puniret inuenerat, illuc eorum tamquam in asperos scopulos ueridica unda naufraga membra proiecerat, eorum pereuntium ibi erant litora Aegyptiorum exemplo funeribus plena, nec ipsam inuenientium sepulturam, ibi non solum Maximianum fidei aemulum, ueritatis adulterum, ecclesiae matris inimicum, Dathae, Corae et Abiron ministrum de pacis gremio sententiae fulmen excusserat nec solum mors iusta sui sceleris condemnabat, sed etiam trahebat ad consortium criminis plurimos catena sacrilegii, ibi erat uenenum aspidum sub labiis eorum, ibi eorum os maledictione et amaritudine plenum, ibi ueloces eorum pedes ad effundendum sanguinem, ibi contritio et infelicitas in uiis eorum, ibi uiam pacis non cognoscebant nec erat timor dei ante oculos eorum, ibi iacebant abscisa membra, quae pestifera putredo ita corruperat, ut plus haberet in abscisione solaminis quam in remissione medicaminis, ibi erant famosi criminis rei Uictorianus Carcabianensis et ceteri cum isto duodecim, inter quos Praetextatus Adsuritanus et Felicianus Mustitanus, de quibus receptis agimus, qui eundem Maximianum praesentes ordinauerant, hoc est funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinauerant, ubi tanto facinori tamquam inlicito incestui clerici Carthaginis lenocinium praebuerunt. tales ministri sacramentorum nondum correcti, nondum uobis redditi ac restituti in schismate Maximiani baptizauerunt, post tales ministros sacramentorum correctos redditos restitutos uestri non rebaptizauerunt.
What, what makes so bad a case prevail so much in so good a mind, you man of sense, you man of letters? These men, against whom that sentence was pronounced because, as you yourself say, they were persisting in Maximian's schism, before they were restored, as you say, where they were, there they celebrated the sacraments, there they baptized; and (to use rather the words of that plenary council) there they warmed with slow heat the harmful offspring of viperous seed; there the pregnant vows of crimes brought forth their public crime and their parricide; there they were in labor with injustice, conceived toil, and brought forth iniquity; there their names were now marked out for punishment, no longer from a confused forest of crimes; there, at the end of indulgence, while the line of clemency was being let go, the case had now found whom to punish; there the truth-telling wave had thrown their shipwrecked limbs as on rough rocks; there were the shores, after the example of the Egyptians, full of the corpses of those perishing, who did not even find burial; there the thunderbolt of the sentence had struck from the bosom of peace not only Maximian, the rival of the faith, the adulterer of truth, the enemy of mother church, the minister of Dathan, Korah, and Abiram, nor did the just death of his crime condemn him alone, but the chain of sacrilege also dragged very many into partnership in the crime; there was the poison of asps under their lips, there their mouth full of cursing and bitterness, there their feet swift to shed blood, there ruin and misery in their ways, there they did not know the way of peace, nor was there the fear of God before their eyes; there lay the cut-off limbs which pestilent rot had so corrupted that it found more relief in amputation than in a mild remedy; there were the guilty of a notorious crime, Victorianus of Carcabia and the others, twelve with him, among whom were Praetextatus of Assuras and Felicianus of Musti, whose reception we are discussing, who had in person ordained that same Maximian, that is, by the deadly work of perdition had glued together a filthy vessel from collected dregs, where the clergy of Carthage played the pander to so great a crime as to an unlawful incest. Such ministers of the sacraments, not yet corrected, not yet given back and restored to you, baptized in Maximian's schism; after such ministers of the sacraments, corrected, given back, and restored, your people did not rebaptize.
Ps 7:14 (7:15 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Num 16:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Exod 14:30 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine piles up the phrases of the sentence of Bagai to show that the Maximianists baptized in schism and were received without rebaptism of those they baptized.
- Phrases from the sentence of Bagai (394). Ps 7:14; Rom 3:13–18; Num 16; Exod 14:30. The word in round brackets is the editor's supplement.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.38 (CSEL 52:537–538; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.39CSEL 52:538–539
Quid sola in uobis praeualet animositas? aliquando adtendatur, aliquando audiatur et ueritas. quid iniciuntur inanissimae nebulae dilationis datae? non ipsis data est, de quibus dictum est: damnatos esse cognoscite, de quibus etiam praedictum est quales fuerint, quid fecerint, cur eos oportuerit iam sine dilatione damnari, quod scilicet Maximianum inpositis manibus praesentes ordinauerunt; hoc est enim quod significarunt dicendo, quod funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinauerint. illis autem data est dilatio, qui ordinationi Maximiani non interfuerunt quamuis in eius societate atque schismate constituti. tantum quia manus ei, quod absentes fuerant, non inposuerunt. sic enim a damnatis ordinatoribus eius eadem concilii sententia distinguntur. nam cum dixissent illos) — quorum et nomina conscripserunt — damnatos esse cognoscite, eos autem, inquiunt, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. quid planius, quid distinctius, quid apertius? illos dicunt famosi criminis reos, qui funesto opere perditionis uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinarunt, damnatos esse cognoscite, hos autem dicunt, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. et quia ex illis damnatis duo postea saluo honore suscepti sunt, non inuenitur hoc quemadmodum defendatur, nisi ut omnibus dicatur dilatio fuisse concessa.
Why does animosity alone prevail in you? Let truth at last be attended to, at last be heard. Why are the most empty fogs of a granted extension thrown over it? It was not granted to those very men of whom it was said, “Know that they have been condemned,” of whom it was also said beforehand what kind of men they were, what they did, and why they had to be condemned now without extension: namely, that they ordained Maximian in person by laying on hands; for this is what they meant by saying that by the deadly work of perdition they had glued together a filthy vessel from collected dregs. But the extension was given to those who were not present at Maximian's ordination, though placed in his fellowship and schism, merely because, being absent, they did not lay hands on him. For thus they are distinguished by the same sentence of the council from his condemned ordainers. For when they had said of those (whose names they also wrote down), “Know that they have been condemned,” they say, “But those whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute, that is, who with the modest shame of faith withdrew their hands from Maximian's head, we have permitted to return to mother church.” What could be plainer, more distinct, more open? Of the former, the guilty of a notorious crime, who by the deadly work of perdition glued together a filthy vessel from collected dregs, they say, “Know that they have been condemned”; of the latter, “whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute, that is, who with the modest shame of faith withdrew their hands from Maximian's head,” they say, “We have permitted to return to mother church.” And because two of those condemned were afterwards received with their rank preserved, no way is found to defend this except by saying that the extension was granted to all.
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Summary: Augustine shows from the sentence of Bagai that the grant of time was only for those not present at Maximian's ordination, not for Felicianus and Praetextatus.
- Sentence of the council of Bagai (394).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Words run together in the digital text.): quossacrilegi → quos sacrilegi.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.39 (CSEL 52:538–539; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.40CSEL 52:539–540
Sed concessa sit omnibus. nempe quotquot ad uos ab illo schismate redierunt, antequam redirent, illic fuerunt, illic baptizauerunt, inde ad uos sine destructione sui honoris et baptismi redeuntes, si frons adsit, ora uestra clauserunt. cum enim quaerimus. antequam se, sicut ipse dixisti. ecclesiae reddidissent et ante diem praestitutum restituti fuissent, ubi erant, quid aliud uos res ipsa respondere conpellit nisi (in schismate Maximiani propter quod in omnes illa est prolata sententia? ibi ergo baptizarunt eos, in quibus ad uos simul inde uenientibus baptismum Christi non ausi estis rescindere, quia coacti estis agnoscere. unde ipso facto uestro, opere uestro, iudicio uestro aduersus uos merito recteque concluditur agnoscendum esse baptismum Christi, etiamsi extra ecclesiam datus fuerit, et ideo nos hoc pie cognoscere in uestris, uos impie rescindere in nostris.
But suppose it was granted to all. Surely all who returned to you from that schism were there before they returned, baptized there, and, returning to you from there without destruction of their honor or their baptism, closed your mouths, if you have any shame. For when we ask where they were before they had restored themselves to the church, as you yourself said, and before they had been restored before the appointed day, what else does the fact itself compel you to answer than “In the schism of Maximian,” on account of which that sentence was pronounced against all? There, then, they baptized those in whom, when they came to you together from there, you did not dare to cancel the baptism of Christ, because you were compelled to recognize it. Hence by your own deed, your own work, your own judgment, it is rightly and properly concluded against you that the baptism of Christ must be recognized even if it was given outside the church; and therefore that we devoutly recognize it in your people, and you impiously cancel it in ours.
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Summary: Augustine argues that even if all were given time, they baptized in schism before returning, and the Donatists accepted those baptisms.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Stray mark in the digital text.): Maximiani\\ propter → Maximiani propter.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.40 (CSEL 52:539–540; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.41CSEL 52:540–541
Sed forte paenitet talia te uerba posuisse, quae hanc ueritatem nimis urgerent, quoniam dixisti: factum est ut se ecclesiae reddidissent et ante diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur, ut responderetur tibi: quomodo se ecclesiae reddiderunt, quomodo eidem restituti sunt, si ab ea non erant separati? aut si separati erant, quomodo baptizabant? sed quid aliud diceres, nisi quod ab eis audieras quos consuluisti, cum ex hac causa litteris meis ualde permouereris? et tamen fortassis te arguant reprehendant, quod talia uerba incaute posueris. est quod te aduersus eos maxime muniat ac tuam tristitiam consoletur. nam et ipsi in eiusdem concilii decreto talia posuerunt; unde si nobis lecto isto opusculo nostro ita respondere uoluerint, quod eis non praeiudicent uerba laici sui, uerba ipsorum continuo recitabimus: eos autem, inquiunt, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, hoc est qui a Maximiani capite proprias manus uerecundo fidei pudore retraxerunt, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus. cum enim eis dicitur: isti, quos ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisistis, antequam redirent, ubi erant?, similiter urgentur ac tu paulo ante uerbis a te positis urgebaris. ubi enim eos fuisse respondebunt nisi in schismate Maximiani? sed ubi uolunt eos fuisse contendant: certe qui ad ecclesiam redire permissi sunt in ecclesia non fuerunt. ergo extra ecclesiam baptizauerunt et simul baptizatores et baptizati ad ecclesiam redeuntes nec illi honores quos extra gesserant nec illi baptisma quod extra acceperant amiserunt.
But perhaps you regret having set down such words as press this truth too hard, since you said, “It came about that they restored themselves to the church, and, restored before the appointed day, they were not held by the final sentence,” so that the answer to you would be: “How did they restore themselves to the church, how were they restored to it, if they had not been separated from it? Or if they had been separated, how did they baptize?” But what else could you say than what you had heard from those you consulted, when you were greatly moved by my letter about this case? And yet perhaps they may blame and reprove you for setting down such words incautiously. There is something that greatly protects you against them and consoles your sadness. For they themselves set down such things in the decree of the same council; hence, if, having read this little work of ours, they wish to answer us that the words of their layman do not prejudice them, we shall at once read out their own words: “But those,” they say, “whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute, that is, who with the modest shame of faith withdrew their hands from Maximian's head, we have permitted to return to mother church.” For when it is said to them, “These whom you permitted to return to mother church, where were they before they returned?”, they are pressed just as you were pressed a little before by the words you set down. For where will they answer they were, except in Maximian's schism? But let them contend they were wherever they like: certainly those who were permitted to return to the church were not in the church. Therefore they baptized outside the church; and, returning to the church, baptizers and baptized together, neither did the former lose the honors they had held outside, nor the latter the baptism they had received outside.
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Summary: Augustine notes that the council of Bagai itself spoke of the Maximianists “returning” to mother church, so they baptized outside it and kept both rank and baptism on return.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Stray mark in the digital text.): tibi: *quomodo → tibi: quomodo.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.41 (CSEL 52:540–541; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.42CSEL 52:541–542
Et tu quidem, quantum potuisti in causa mala, caute locutus es, ut diceres: placuit tamen decreto concilii dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. illi autem nec corrigendos eos fuisse dixerunt quibus data est illa dilatio, sed tamquam omnino inpolluti atque innocentes in Maximiani societate fuerint, sic de illis loquuntur, cum ipsam prorogant dilationem. quid est enim aliud quod dicunt: eos autem, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus, nisi: quos non polluit consortium Maximiani, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus? ac ne parum sit, uide quid adiungant: quanto enim de reorum, inquiunt. morte purgamur, tanto de innocentium reditu gratulamur. cur itaque tu dicis placuisse dilationem temporis dari. intra quod si qui corrigi uellet innocens haberetur, cum eam uideas inpollutis atque innocentibus datam? sed uidelicet tu timuisti, ne tibi diceretur: quare dabatur dilatio eis, quos non polluerat Maximianus? ideo dilatione illa corrigendos esse censuisti. illi timuerunt, ne sibi diceretur: quare in suis honoribus pollutos suscipere uoluistis? ideo se inpollutis dilationem dedisse dixerunt.
And you indeed, as far as you could in a bad case, spoke cautiously, saying, “It was nevertheless decided by the council's decree to grant an extension of time, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be held innocent.” But they did not say that those to whom the extension was given needed correction; but they speak of them as though they had been altogether unpolluted and innocent in Maximian's fellowship, when they extend that extension. For what else is it that they say, “But those whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute we have permitted to return to mother church,” except, “Those whom fellowship with Maximian did not pollute we have permitted to return to mother church”? And lest that be too little, see what they add: “For as much as we are cleared,” they say, “of the death of the guilty, so much do we rejoice in the return of the innocent.” Why then do you say it was decided to grant an extension of time, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be held innocent, when you see that it was given to the unpolluted and innocent? No doubt you feared it would be said to you: “Why was an extension given to those whom Maximian had not polluted?” So you judged that they were to be corrected by that extension. They feared it would be said to them: “Why did you wish to receive the polluted in their honors?” So they said they gave the extension to the unpolluted.
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Summary: Augustine contrasts Cresconius's claim that the extension was for correction with the council's claim that those given it were unpolluted and innocent.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.42 (CSEL 52:541–542; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-42). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.43CSEL 52:542
Proinde singula timuistis, sed alterutrum oppugnatur ex altero. nam tibi dicitur: quomodo existimas corrigendos quos tui praedicant impollutos? illis autem dicitur: quomodo asseritis impollutos etsi non manum inponendo capiti Maximiani, tamen schismatis eius communione maculatos? cuius autem animus, cuius uires, cuius lingua sufficiat proloqui tam intolerandum dolorem? ut pars Donati discissa resarciatur, nec socios Afros in Africa polluit Maximianus: ne ad ipsam radicem unitatis rami fracti regredi permittantur, tot remotissimas gentes polluit ex Africa Caecilianus..
Accordingly, each of you feared something different, but each is attacked by the other. For it is said to you: “How do you think those must be corrected whom your people proclaim unpolluted?” And it is said to them: “How do you assert they were unpolluted, who, even if not by laying hands on Maximian's head, were yet stained by communion with his schism?” But whose mind, whose strength, whose tongue would suffice to speak out so intolerable a grief? So that the torn party of Donatus might be mended, Maximian did not pollute even his African associates in Africa; so that the broken branches might not be permitted to return to the very root of unity, Caecilian from Africa polluted so many most remote nations!
Rom 11:23 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine notes the contradiction between Cresconius and the council, and the double standard by which Maximian polluted no one but Caecilian polluted the world.
- Rom 11:17–24.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.43 (CSEL 52:542; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-43). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.44CSEL 52:542–544
Ex die concilii Bagaiensis, hoc est octauum Kalendas Maias. usque ad diem datae illius dilationis, hoc est VIII Kl Ian, VIII menses numerantur. in hoc tam longo temporis interuallo illi. quibus dilatio data est, maculabantur societate damnati Maximiani an non maculabantur? si maculabantur, quomodo dicitur: eos autem, quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus? si non maculabantur, quomodo nos atque omnes quae ubique sunt Christianas gentes potuit ignotorum, non dicam falsorum, maculare alienorum contagio peccatorum? sed ideo, inquis, dilatio data est, quae si transisset illis non redeuntibus, tunc macularentur et in poenam damnationis incurrerent. non ergo eos peccatum illius societatis, sed diei constitutio maculabat. si ergo nullus dies constitueretur, inmaculati utique permanerent. quid de uobis male meruit orbis terrarum? cur eum maculatum perhibetis peccatis alienis, cui nullum diem dilationis constituistis. cum tanta sit uestra potentia, ut homines quando uolunt peccatoribus socientur et quando uolueritis inquinentur? innocentes et impolluti erant, quibus in parte Maximiani dabatur dilatio, intra cuius diem si remearent ad uos, haberent integri honoris ac fidei fundamenta; si autem ille dies eis non redeuntibus praeteriret, tunc polluti, tunc scelerati, tunc perditi supplicium damnationis incurrerent, tunc humiliarentur per paenitentiam degradati. o (ratio) mira praedicentium hominum non iam, ut uetus prouerbium fertur, quod uolumus sanctum est, sed etiam quando uolumus et quamdiu uolumus! contingat alicui uestrum in naue orare nobiscum. iam pollutus, iam traditor appellatur: communicant altaria damnatores Primiani cum Maximiano ueritatis adultero, ecclesiae matris inimico, Dathae, Corae et Abiron ministro et per VIII menses innocentes inpollutique persistunt. proinde si qui ex his nonum Kl Ian se uestrae communioni reddiderunt, de innocentium estis reditu gratulati. eorum scilicet quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria. quid uos promeruerunt tot dies VIII mensum a die VIII Kl Maiarum usque ad diem VIII Kl Ian, quos ita sanctificastis, ut per eos quicumque communioni sacrilegi atque damnati Maximiani cohaererent, non polluerentur nec efficerentur nocentes: et quid uos offendit tam sanctus dies natalis ipsius domini nostri, ut solus aduentu et transitu suo pollueret innocentes, atque in eis qui in illo schismate baptizarunt per illos omnes dies sanctus maneret baptismus Christi et inmundus fieret per natalem Christi?
From the day of the council of Bagai, that is, the eighth day before the Kalends of May, to the day of that granted extension, that is, the eighth day before the Kalends of January, eight months are counted. In so long an interval of time, were those to whom the extension was given stained by fellowship with the condemned Maximian or not? If they were stained, how is it said, “But those whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute we have permitted to return to mother church”? If they were not stained, how could the contagion of others' sins, unknown (I will not say false), stain us and all the Christian nations everywhere? “But,” you say, “the extension was given for this purpose: that if it passed and they did not return, then they would be stained and incur the penalty of condemnation.” It was not, then, the sin of that fellowship that stained them, but the setting of a day. If, then, no day had been set, they would certainly have remained unstained. What evil has the world deserved of you? Why do you declare it stained by others' sins, for which you set no day of extension, since your power is so great that men are associated with sinners when they will and are defiled when you will? They were innocent and unpolluted, those in Maximian's party to whom the extension was given, within whose day, if they came back to you, they would have the foundations of honor and faith intact; but if that day passed without their returning, then they would be polluted, then criminal, then lost, incurring the punishment of condemnation, then humbled by penance and degraded. O wonderful reasoning of men who proclaim not merely, as the old proverb goes, “What we will is holy,” but also “when we will and as long as we will”! Let it happen to one of you to pray with us on a ship: at once he is called polluted, at once a traitor. Yet the condemners of Primian share altars with Maximian, the adulterer of truth, the enemy of mother church, the minister of Dathan, Korah, and Abiram, and for eight months they remain innocent and unpolluted! Accordingly, if any of them restored themselves to your communion on the ninth day before the Kalends of January, you rejoiced over the return of the innocent, namely those whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute. What did so many days of eight months, from the eighth day before the Kalends of May to the eighth day before the Kalends of January, deserve of you, that you so sanctified them that through them whoever cleaved to the communion of the sacrilegious and condemned Maximian was not polluted nor made guilty? And what has so holy a day as the birthday of our Lord himself done to offend you, that by its coming and passing alone it should pollute the innocent; and that in those who baptized in that schism the baptism of Christ should remain holy through all those days and become unclean through the birthday of Christ?
Num 16:1 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine ridicules the idea that the Maximianists were unpolluted for eight months and became polluted only when the deadline, Christmas Day, passed.
- Dates: 24 April to 25 December 394. Num 16. “What we will is holy” is a proverb Augustine also applies elsewhere to the Donatists.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip: Et for Kl.; Stray hyphen in the digital text.; Words run together in the digital text.): VIII Et Ian → VIII Kl Ian; quomododicitur:eos → quomodo dicitur: eos; sed -ideo → sed ideo.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.44 (CSEL 52:542–544; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-44). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.45CSEL 52:544–545
Quid non audeat humana temeritas, cum in sententiam nefandi praecipitatur erroris, quam relinquere propter uanitatem pudet et defendere contra ueritatem non pudet? sed quid hinc plura, ubi quilibet obstinatissimus, qui contra omnes uoces rationis obduruit, necesse est fateatur de quibus dicitur: se ecclesiae reddidissent et ante diem praestitutum restituti essent — quae uerba ipse posuisti —, eos denique de quibus dicitur: (ad matrem ecclesiam redire permisimus: de innocentium reditu gratulamur: (ac ne angustum redeuntibus tempus spem salutis artatae diei pressura subducat, usque in illum diem agnitionis pandimus ianuam, ut integri honoris ac fidei regressi habeant fundamenta. quam quisquam si ingredi nequiuerit pigra segnitia, sciat sibi ad omnes ueniales aditus uiam esse subductam: (et post praestitutum diem redeuntibus fixa paenitentia — quae uerba trecenti et decem in sententia sua totiens inculcarunt —, necesse est, inquam, quilibet aduersarius fateatur eos, de quibus ista dicuntur, antequam se uobis redderent, antequam uobis restituerentur, antequam ad uos redirent, antequam regressi ianuam dilationis ingrederentur, non fuisse uobiscum, extra uestram communionem in eo schismate, quo se a uobis separauerant, baptizasse? inde uobis redditi ac restituti ubi a uobis alienati erant, inde ad uos redeuntes et regredientes quo a uobis foris erant, et tenuerunt non deminutos honores suos et secum introduxerunt non rebaptizandos baptizatos suos.
What would human rashness not dare, when it is hurled headlong into the opinion of an abominable error, which it is ashamed to abandon out of vanity and not ashamed to defend against the truth? But why more on this, where anyone, however obstinate, who has hardened himself against all the voices of reason, must admit about those of whom it is said that they “restored themselves to the church and were restored before the appointed day” (words you yourself set down), and finally about those of whom it is said, “We have permitted to return to mother church,” “We rejoice in the return of the innocent,” “And lest the narrow time for those returning should take away the hope of salvation by the pressure of a restricted day, we open the door of acknowledgment until that day, so that those who return may have the foundations of honor and faith intact. If anyone through sluggish slackness cannot enter it, let him know that the way to all pardonable approaches has been taken away from him,” and “a fixed penance for those returning after the appointed day” (words which the three hundred and ten drove home so often in their sentence): any adversary, I say, must admit that those of whom these things are said, before they restored themselves to you, before they were restored to you, before they returned to you, before, returning, they entered the door of the extension, were not with you, but baptized outside your communion in that schism by which they had separated themselves from you; and that, restored and given back to you from where they had been estranged from you, returning and coming back to you from where they were outside you, they both kept their honors undiminished and brought in with them those they had baptized, not to be rebaptized.
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Summary: Augustine insists that the council's own language of “return” proves the Maximianists were outside Donatist communion and baptized there.
- Phrases from the sentence of Bagai (394).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip and words run together in the digital text.): in ilium diem agnitionispandimus ianuam, utintegri → in illum diem agnitionis pandimus ianuam, ut integri.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.45 (CSEL 52:544–545; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-45). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.46CSEL 52:545–546
Quid adhuc pessimae causae patrocinium pertinacissimum praebes? adquiesce tandem non mihi, sed ipsi qua conuincimini ueritati. uide quam uerum dixerim, quod frustra labefactare conatus es, (quanta sint pro pace toleranda, atque — ut eisdem identidem uerbis utar, quibus in illis litteris usus sum — pro pace Christi redite ad ecclesiam quae non damnauit incognita, si pro pace Donati placuit reuocare damnata. si enim ex his duodecim, quos cum Maximiano sine dilatione damnauerant, Felicianum et Praetextatum postea receperunt, quomodo falsum est eos reuocasse damnata? si autem et ipsis dilatio data est, quos dixerunt damnatos esse cognoscite, etiamsi nullus eorum postea remearet, placuit tamen reuocare damnata, quando post sententiam. qua dictum est: damnatos esse cognoscite, data est dilatio, qua eis liceret euacuata damnatione remeare. haec dicta sufficerent, etiamsi uerum esset quod te dicis, cum hac causa Maximianensium ualde permotus esses, a tuis episcopis cognouisse; quid autem agis, quia et falsum est? quaere aut, si habes, inspice diem gestorum proconsularium, quo postulatio dicta est a Titiano aduersus Felicianum et Praetextatum, ut pellerentur locis, et uide, quanto post diem illius dilationis hoc factum est. nam dies est concilii Bagaiensis consulatu Augustorum Arcadii ter et Honorii iterum VIII Kl Mai, dies autem dilationis hinc usque ad VIII Kl Ian, postulatio uero ista Titiani dicta est post istum consulatum die VI Non Mar.
Why do you still offer most obstinate patronage to a most wicked case? Yield at last, not to me, but to the truth by which you are convicted. See how truly I said what you tried in vain to shake: “how much must be tolerated for the sake of peace,” and (to use again and again the same words I used in that letter) “for the sake of the peace of Christ return to the church which did not condemn things unknown, if for the sake of the peace of Donatus you were pleased to recall things condemned.” For if, of those twelve whom they condemned with Maximian without extension, they afterwards received Felicianus and Praetextatus, how is it false that they recalled things condemned? But if the extension was given even to those of whom they said, “Know that they have been condemned,” even if none of them had later come back, yet they were pleased to recall things condemned, since after the sentence in which it was said, “Know that they have been condemned,” an extension was given, by which they might come back with their condemnation voided. These words would suffice even if what you say were true: that, being greatly moved by this case of the Maximianensians, you learned it from your bishops. But what will you do, since it is also false? Look for, or, if you have it, examine the date of the proconsular records on which the petition was made by Titianus against Felicianus and Praetextatus, that they should be expelled from their places, and see how long after the day of that extension this was done. For the day of the council of Bagai is, in the consulship of the Augusti Arcadius for the third time and Honorius for the second, the eighth day before the Kalends of May; the day of the extension from then until the eighth day before the Kalends of January; but this petition of Titianus was made after that consulship, on the sixth day before the Nones of March.
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Summary: Augustine notes that, either way, the Donatists recalled the condemned, and that the dated court petition against Felicianus and Praetextatus came months after the deadline.
- Dates: council 24 April 394 (here dated by the consulship of 394); deadline 25 December 394; petition 2 March 395. Quotations from Against the Letters of Petilian.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip: II for Kl.; OCR slip: K2 for Kl.; OCR slip: n for u.): VIII K2 Mai → VIII Kl Mai; dies antem → dies autem; VIII II Ian → VIII Kl Ian; postulatio nero → postulatio uero.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.46 (CSEL 52:545–546; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-46). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.47CSEL 52:546–547
Proinde apparet tertium ferme agi mensem, cum a proconsule petitur, ut Felicianus et Praetextatus sedibus propulsentur tamquam collegae Maximiani, quos sibi consociauerat ad furorem. nam cum memoratus aduocatus de Maximiano quod sufficere uidebatur in eadem postulatione dixisset: eos quoque, inquit, quos alienae praesumptionis error adtraxerat, portu primo proposito paenitendi, si reuerti cuperent intra tempus ad religionis tramitem destitutum, pari uigoris ammonitione conpescuit. sed suis institutis iniquitas delectatur et semet ipsam non deserit, cum semel praecipitata corruerit. idem namque Maximianus coeptam nutrit audaciam et alios sibimet consociat ad furorem. inter quos etiam Felicianus quidam, qui primo recta sectatus deprauationis huius attaminatione fuscatur, in Mustitana positus ciuitate deo omnipotenti parietes consecratos, ecclesiam uenerandam quasi quadam obsessione credidit retinendam. hunc etiam Praetextatus in Adsuritanis partibus imitatur. audisne aduocati uerba praeclarissima et manifestissima, quibus dicit istos, de quibus agimus, quia portum propositum paenitendi. dum suis institutis iniquitas delectatur, cum semel praecipitata corruerit, contempserunt, locis ecclesiasticis expellendos? ubi si dies posset latere gestorum, cuiuis obtunsissimo satis eluceret, quod contra eos non ita proconsularis potestas adiretur, nisi aut illo concilio fuissent, sicut illi magis apparet, sine ulla impertita dilatione damnati aut intra diem dilationis, si omnibus data est, uobis restitui noluissent. cum uero etiam dies gestorum cuiuslibet obstinati oculos auresque sic feriat, usque adeo illos etiam post transactum dilationis diem in uestra communione non fuisse et Maximiano cohaesisse, ut ob hoc aduersus eos tam terribilis iudiciariae iussionis impetraretur auctoritas. quid ad haec dicitur? quid adhuc contra tam perspicuam ueritatem mira inpudentiae caecitate contenditur? quid adhuc ab eis, qui pro unitate partis Donati etiam concordiam sacrilegorum damnatorum tenere noluerunt, contra unitatem Christi tanta insania rebellatur? quid adhuc baptismus Christi, etiam in sacrilego schismate ueneratione debita cognitus, in tot catholicis gentibus impia praesumptione respuitur, sacrilega repetitione uiolatur?
Accordingly, it appears that almost the third month was passing when the proconsul was asked to drive Felicianus and Praetextatus from their seats as colleagues of Maximian, whom he had associated with himself in his madness. For when the advocate mentioned had said in the same petition what seemed sufficient about Maximian, he says: “Those also whom the error of another's presumption had drawn away, having first offered a harbor of repentance, if they wished to return within the time to the path of religion they had abandoned, it restrained with an equally vigorous admonition. But wickedness delights in its own institutions and does not desert itself once it has fallen headlong. For the same Maximian nourishes the audacity he began and associates others with himself in his madness; among whom also a certain Felicianus, who at first followed the right way, is darkened by the contamination of this depravity, and, placed in the city of Musti, thought that walls consecrated to almighty God, the venerable church, should be held as if by a kind of siege. Praetextatus too imitates him in the parts of Assuras.” Do you hear the most illustrious and most manifest words of the advocate, by which he says that these men with whom we are dealing, because they despised the harbor of repentance offered, while wickedness delights in its own institutions once it has fallen headlong, must be expelled from church places? Here, even if the date of the records could be hidden, it would be clear enough to anyone, however dull, that the proconsular power would not have been approached thus against them unless either they had been condemned in that council without any extension granted, as appears more likely, or, if it was given to all, they had refused to be restored to you within the day of the extension. But since the date of the records too strikes the eyes and ears of anyone, however obstinate, so plainly that those men were not in your communion even after the day of extension had passed and cleaved to Maximian, so that for this reason the authority of so terrible a judicial order was obtained against them, what is said to this? Why is there still contention against so plain a truth with wonderful blindness of shamelessness? Why do those who, for the unity of the party of Donatus, would keep concord even with condemned sacrilegious men, still rebel with such madness against the unity of Christ? Why is the baptism of Christ, recognized with due veneration even in a sacrilegious schism, still rejected with impious presumption and violated by sacrilegious repetition in so many Catholic nations?
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Summary: Augustine quotes the advocate Titianus's petition, which shows that Felicianus and Praetextatus were still with Maximian after the deadline.
- Petition of Titianus before the proconsul Herodes, 2 March 395.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip: P for ?.; OCR slip: cam for cum.): expellendos P ubi → expellendos? ubi; cam uero etiam → cum uero etiam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.47 (CSEL 52:546–547; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-47). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.48CSEL 52:547–548
Nolo quaerere, quanto post huius postulationis diem, qua Felicianus et Praetextatus Titiani aduocati uerbis tam grauiter accusantur, in uestram communionem recepti sunt. sufficit, quod eadem postulatio tanto post finem praestitutae illius dilationis eos a uestra communione separatos in Maximiani schismate fuisse conuincit, quos postea recepistis, quorum honores nulla ex parte minuistis, a quibus datum quamuis in sacrilego schismate baptismum, sicut re uera timendum fuit, rescindere timuistis. numquidnam in hac causa se contra nos lingua cuiuslibet pertinacissimi commoueret, si se moueri in hominis ore et sub hominis fronte sentiret? erraui plane, fateor, in eo quod in illis litteris posui de illa Bagaiensis concilii sententia, quoniam dixi: cum apud eos decernenda recitata est, ore latissimo adclamauerunt, nunc autem, cum a nobis recitata fuerit, ommutescunt. uerum est quod tu dixisti: ecce non ommutescunt; uerecundia quippe in rebus tam manifestis uel etiam ipsa inpudentia ommutescere potest, insania non potest. neque hoc dictum de te accipias, qui tuis episcopis mentientibus credidisti, nec de illis omnibus — neque enim omnes de hac re permotus consulere potuisti —, sed de his, qui cum scirent quanta et quando contra Praetextatum et Felicianum apud iudices gesta sunt, hoc quod tuis inseruisti litteris tibi ausi sunt dicere, quod ante diem praestitutae dilationis Felicianus et Praetextatus uestrae communioni restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur obstricti. aut si et ipsi forte ista nescierunt, nunc saltem, cum haec legitis, taceat uerecundia, taceat et ipsa qualiscumque hominis est inpudentia; sola certe quae contra tam euidentem ueritatem clamet relinquatur insania. et illa erit fortasse sanabilis, si conpescatur a sanis.
I do not wish to ask how long after the day of this petition, in which Felicianus and Praetextatus are so gravely accused in the words of the advocate Titianus, they were received into your communion. It is enough that the same petition, so long after the end of the appointed extension, proves that those whom you afterwards received were in Maximian's schism, separated from your communion; whose honors you diminished in no respect; the baptism given by whom, though in sacrilegious schism, you were afraid to cancel, as indeed was to be feared. Would anyone's tongue, however obstinate, be moved against us in this case if it felt that it was moving in a man's mouth and under a man's brow? I clearly erred, I confess, in what I set down in that letter about that sentence of the council of Bagai, since I said, “When it was read out among them to be decreed, they acclaimed it with wide-open mouth; but now, when it is read out by us, they fall silent.” What you said is true: see, they do not fall silent. For shame, in things so manifest, or even shamelessness itself, can fall silent; madness cannot. Nor should you take this as said of you, who believed your bishops when they lied, nor of all of them (for you could not consult all of them when moved about this), but of those who, knowing how much was done, and when, against Praetextatus and Felicianus before the judges, dared to tell you what you inserted in your letter: that Felicianus and Praetextatus, restored to your communion before the day of the appointed extension, were not held bound by the final sentence. Or if they too perhaps did not know these things, now at least, when you read them, let shame be silent, let even whatever shamelessness there is in a man be silent; let only madness be left, which cries out against so evident a truth. And that perhaps will be curable, if it is restrained by the sane.
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Summary: Augustine says the petition proves the two bishops were outside Donatist communion after the deadline, and only madness can still deny it.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.48 (CSEL 52:547–548; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-48). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.49CSEL 52:548–549
Nunc uide, quemadmodum de me dixeris: testis mendax non erit inpunitus, cum putares me in hac Maximianensium causa fuisse mentitum. ego tibi hoc non repono; forte quippe locutus es quod incauta amicitia credidisti, non quod fallaci corde finxisti. homines sumus; qua tandem. uigilantia efficere possumus, ut uel putando uel loquendo in aliquo non labamur? sed contra medicinam correctionis obsurdescere non debemus.
Now see how you said of me, “A false witness will not go unpunished,” when you thought I had lied in this case of the Maximianensians. I do not repay you with this; for perhaps you said what you believed with incautious friendship, not what you invented with a deceitful heart. We are men; by what watchfulness can we bring it about that we do not slip in anything, either in thinking or in speaking? But we ought not to grow deaf to the medicine of correction.
Prov 19:5 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine declines to call Cresconius a false witness in return, since he may have believed his bishops in good faith.
- Prov 19:5.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.49 (CSEL 52:548–549; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-49). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.50CSEL 52:549
Nunc adtende, quantam mihi etiam in ceteris partibus epistulae tuae causa ista Maximianensium praebeat respondendi facilitatem. quidquid de traditoribus uelut nostris dicendum putasti, quamquam uestri potius hoc fecisse doceantur, quod et in illo trium uoluminum opere satis superque monstraui. uide tamen et responde, si potes. utrum hoc crimen, quorumlibet fuerit, polluere potuerit in unitate tot gentium christianos uel longe remotissimos uel longe posteros, si crimen sacrilegi surculi Maximiani maculare non potuit uel socios Afros, quibus dantes dilationem trecenti et decem episcopi uestri dixerunt: quos sacrilegi surculi non polluere plantaria, uel uos ipsos, qui non solum istos quos innocentes dixistis, uerum etiam in illo sacrilegio iam damnatos tanta concordia suscepistis.
Now notice how much ease of answering this case of the Maximianensians gives me in the other parts of your letter too. Whatever you thought should be said about traitors as if they were ours (although it is shown that your people rather did this, as I showed more than enough in that work of three books), yet see and answer, if you can, whether this crime, whoever's it was, could pollute Christians in the unity of so many nations, whether far distant or long after, if the crime of the sacrilegious branch of Maximian could not stain either his African associates, of whom your three hundred and ten bishops said, when giving them the extension, “whom the shoots of the sacrilegious branch did not pollute,” or you yourselves, who received with such concord not only these, whom you called innocent, but also those already condemned in that sacrilege.
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Summary: Augustine argues that if Maximian's crime did not pollute his own associates or the Donatists who received them, no African crime could pollute the worldwide church.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.50 (CSEL 52:549; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-50). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.51CSEL 52:549–550
Dicis orientalibus nota fuisse crimina traditorum, quando tibi Afro Maximianensium schisma in Africae capite commissum, antequam meas litteras legens ualde permotus consuleres episcopos uestros, incognitum fuit et. cum consuluisses, uerum ab eis audire minime potuisti. quos certe si defendis, ne dicas mentitos, concedis ignaros, et tamen nec nos nec orientis et occidentis tot tantosque populos saltem nescire permittis causam Caeciliani, cum isti nesciant Praetextati et Feliciani, quos trecenti et decem, hoc est aut omnes aut prope omnes episcopi partis Donati, Afri Afros in Africa damnauerunt, Afri Afros in Africa susceperunt..
You say that the crimes of the traitors were known to the Easterners, when to you, an African, the Maximianensian schism committed in the capital of Africa was unknown before, reading my letter and greatly moved, you consulted your bishops, and when you had consulted them you could not hear the truth from them at all. If you defend them so as not to say they lied, you grant they were ignorant; and yet you do not allow us, nor so many and such great peoples of East and West, at least not to know the case of Caecilian, while these men do not know that of Praetextatus and Felicianus, whom three hundred and ten, that is, all or nearly all the bishops of the party of Donatus, Africans condemned as Africans in Africa, and Africans received as Africans in Africa.
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Summary: Augustine notes that Cresconius did not know the recent Maximianist affair in Africa, yet expects distant churches to know Caecilian's case.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Garbled OCR of Maximianensium.): Maximianei\\sium → Maximianensium.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.51 (CSEL 52:549–550; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-51). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.52CSEL 52:550–551
Inseris principium Serdicensis concilii, unde probare conaris, quod orientales episcopi cognito crimine traditorum parti Donati communicauerint, hoc uno magno scilicet documento, quod inter episcopos quibus scribunt Donati nomen inuentum est. nec tamen ibi aliquid legitur eos de Afris traditoribus cognouisse. quod quidem concilium, ne te lateat, Arrianorum est, quos iam tu inter alios haereticos nominasti, nec additis ciuitatum nominibus legi solet, quia nec ipse mos est ecclesiasticus, quando episcopi episcopis epistulam scribunt. unde nescio quis iste Donatus miror si non in uestris litteris Carthaginiensis factus est, quamquam potuerint illi tam longinquis terris ab Africa separati eo ipso tempore quo scribere uolebant requirere, quisnam episcopus esset Carthaginis, (et inuenire) esse Donatum. omitto enim dicere, quod fortasse orientales haeretici (Afris) haereticis aliquo modo se sociare temptauerant. sed tu, homo prudens, cum uelles soluere quaestionem, cum tibi dici posset: (si haec ita sunt, ut orientales scriberent ad Donatum uestrum, quemadmodum a communione uestrorum orientales postea digregati sunt?, respondisti et dixisti: quia in recipiendis iterum uestris damnatae causae non potuerunt seruare constantiam. et scriptum est: qui iungitur fornicariae unum corpus est. ubi uestros nunc atrociter accusasti, si in hac causa Maximianensium non potuerunt seruare constantiam execrabiliter damnando sacrilegos, honorabiliter suscipiendo damnatos. illud enim de orientalibus omnino non probas, hoc de uestris audis et legis et cernis et iudicas.
You insert the opening of the council of Serdica, from which you try to prove that the Eastern bishops, having learned of the crime of the traitors, communicated with the party of Donatus, by this one great proof, no doubt: that the name of Donatus is found among the bishops to whom they write. Yet nothing is read there about their having learned of African traitors. And that council, so that it may not escape you, is of the Arians, whom you yourself have now named among other heretics; nor is it usually read with the names of cities added, since this is not church custom either when bishops write a letter to bishops. Hence I do not know who this Donatus is; I wonder whether he was not made “of Carthage” in your copies; although they, separated by such distant lands from Africa, could have asked, at the very time they wished to write, who was bishop of Carthage, and found it was Donatus. For I pass over saying that perhaps the Eastern heretics had tried in some way to ally themselves with the African heretics. But you, a prudent man, wishing to solve the question, when it could be said to you, “If these things are so, that the Easterners wrote to your Donatus, how were the Easterners afterwards separated from the communion of your people?”, answered and said, “Because in receiving your people again they could not keep firm in a condemned case; and it is written, ‘He who is joined to a prostitute is one body.’” Here you have now fiercely accused your own people, if in this case of the Maximianensians they could not keep firm, condemning the sacrilegious execrably and receiving the condemned honorably. For that you do not prove at all about the Easterners; this you hear and read and see and judge about your own people.
1 Cor 6:16 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine repeats that the Serdica letter came from Arians and turns Cresconius's charge of inconstancy against the Donatists' treatment of the Maximianists.
- The Eastern (Arian) bishops' letter from Philippopolis (343). 1 Cor 6:16. Words in round brackets are the editor's supplements.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip: 808 for non.; OCR slip: hae for hac.; OCR slip: o for c.; OCR slip: s for n.; OCR slips: ? for e, stray period.): prinoipium → principium; fornicaria? unum c.orpus → fornicariae unum corpus; acousasti → accusasti; in hae causa → in hac causa; Maximianensium 808 potuerunt → Maximianensium non potuerunt; oriestalibus → orientalibus.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.52 (CSEL 52:550–551; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-52). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.53CSEL 52:551
Iubes me relinquere ecclesiam traditorum, quos nec uos apud nos nec maiores uestri apud maiores nostros conuincere ac demonstrare potuerunt; quos nunc si demonstrasses, eorum facinus crimenque damnarem, non propter eos tot gentium quibus ignoti sunt catholicam societatem desererem. sed uide, qua consideratione nolis in communione nostra eorum mortuorum memoriam fieri, quorum facta non nouimus, quorum etiam bonam inter suos famam posteritatis successione didicimus, cum in uestra communione sine ulla degradatione uiuant quorum mala sensistis, quorum sacrilegia condemnastis.
You order me to leave the church of the traitors, whom neither you before us nor your forefathers before our forefathers could convict and prove; and if you had now proved them, I would condemn their deed and crime, but would not on their account desert the Catholic fellowship of so many nations to whom they are unknown. But see with what consistency you do not want the memory of those dead men to be made in our communion whose deeds we do not know, whose good reputation among their own we have even learned through the succession of posterity, while in your communion men live, without any degradation, whose evils you perceived, whose sacrileges you condemned.
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Summary: Augustine contrasts the Donatists' objection to commemorating unproven “traitors” with their living communion with men they themselves condemned.
- The commemoration of the departed bishops at the eucharist.
Topics: Heresy
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.53 (CSEL 52:551; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-53). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.54CSEL 52:551–552
Audes mihi dicere, homo prudens: ille qui tradidit te creauit, sic nesciens illum esse creatorem nostrum in eo, quod christiani sumus, qui est creator noster in eo, quod homines sumus, quamuis nec illum, quem putas creatorem meum, de traditione conuiceris. ego autem non tibi rependo hanc iniuriam; nec tuum nec filiorum uel nepotum aut pronepotum tuorum. si in parte Donati fuerint, Felicianum dico creatorem. tantum, quia permittis, admoneo, ne creator tuus post nomen hominis impia uanitate currentem te inueniat desertorem. deinde plausibiliter tibi uideris adiungere: a fonte deducitur riuus et caput membra sequuntur. sano capite omne sanum est corpus, et si quid in hoc morbi uel uitii est, omnia membra debilitat. originem suam respicit quidquid in stirpe procrescit. non potest innocens esse qui sectam non sequitur innocentis, cum praesertim scriptum sit: in legalibus patrum uestrorum ne ambulaueritis. in his omnibus uerbis tuis omitto, quia non est simile quod de humano corpore conparasti; fieri enim potest, ut et pes doleat capite sano et pede sano caput omitto etiam, quod tibi exciderit quid paulo ante dixeris; hoc et nos uolumus hoc suademus, ut Christus christiani sit caput, qui nunc nescio quem traditorem caput uis esse ignotarum gentium christianarum, ubi datum et acceptum Christi baptismum non uultis agnoscere, tamquam baptizati non nisi ab illo traditore creati sint. omitto et illud, quantum me adiuuet quod de scriptura testimonium ipse posuisti, dictum esse Iudaeis: in legalibus patrum uestrorum ne ambulaueritis, cum hoc utique praeceptum quicumque tunc obseruare uoluerunt, sicut prophetae sancti et septem milia uirorum, qui non curuauerunt genua ante Bahal, a populo tamen suo et a communibus sacramentis non se diuiserunt. hoc dico, hoc uelis nolis repetendo, quamlibet tibi uidear molestus, inculco: noli Caecilianum totiens absolutum caput facere posteris nobis, cum ego et Primianum a Feliciano et Felicianum a Primiano damnatum non tamen faciam caput posteris uestris.
You dare to say to me, prudent man: “He who handed over created you”; not knowing that our creator, insofar as we are Christians, is he who is our creator insofar as we are men; though you have not convicted of handing over even him whom you think my creator. But I do not repay you this injury: I do not call Felicianus your creator, nor that of your sons, grandsons, or great-grandsons, if they are in the party of Donatus. Only, since you permit, I admonish you: let not your Creator find you a deserter, running after the name of a man with impious vanity. Then you seem to yourself to add plausibly: “The stream is drawn from the source, and the members follow the head. When the head is sound, the whole body is sound; and if there is any disease or fault in it, it weakens all the members. Whatever grows in a stock looks back to its origin. One cannot be innocent who does not follow the sect of an innocent man, especially since it is written, ‘Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers.’” In all these words of yours I pass over the fact that what you compared from the human body is not alike; for it can happen that the foot aches while the head is sound, and the head while the foot is sound. I pass over also that what you said a little before slipped from your mind: “This we too want, this we urge, that Christ be the head of the Christian,” you who now want some traitor or other to be the head of unknown Christian nations, where you will not recognize the baptism of Christ given and received, as though the baptized were created only by that traitor. I pass over also how much the testimony from Scripture which you yourself set down helps me, that it was said to the Jews, “Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers”; since whoever then wished to keep this command, like the holy prophets and the seven thousand men who did not bow the knee before Baal, did not divide themselves from their people and from the common sacraments. This I say, this, whether you will or not, I drive home by repeating, however troublesome I may seem to you: do not make Caecilian, so often acquitted, the head of us who came after, since I, for my part, will not make either Primian, condemned by Felicianus, or Felicianus, condemned by Primian, the head of your posterity.
Ezek 20:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Kgs 19:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 11:4 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine rejects the claim that a traitor “created” Catholics: Christ is the head, and even the faithful in Elijah's day did not separate from Israel's common sacraments.
- Ezek 20:18; 1 Kgs 19:18; Rom 11:4.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip: noti for non.; Repeated syllable in the digital text.; Unreadable letter in the digital text.): crea?it → creauit; noti potest → non potest; gentium. tium christianarum → gentium christianarum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.54 (CSEL 52:551–552; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-54). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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4.55CSEL 52:552–553
Iam uero de persecutionis inuidia, quam a terrenis potestatibus uos pro parte Donati perpeti gloriamini. quamuis in illo trium librorum opere satis tibi abundeque responderim, neque nunc tibi tacebo, quod ex hac causa Maximianensium breuiter responderi potest, neque si propterea uos imperitis atque inprudentibus populis commendatis. sic enim se Maximianus ipse, sic eius socii, qui nec persecutionibus uestrorum, ut ad eorum communionem redirent, cedere potuerunt, uanis imperitisque commendant. sed qui sobrie cogitant eorum, qui aliquam molestiam patiuntur, non poenas considerari oportere sed causas, intellegunt eos pro crimine sacrilegi schismatis, in quo a uobis merito iusteque damnati sunt, commotiones etiam saecularium iudiciorum merito iusteque perpessos. neque enim illud commemoro quod in tua epistula posuisti, quod Maximiani non basilicam sed speluncam non Optatus sed populus euertit. quamquam etiam illic, etsi incertum est uestros fecisse, certum est tamen illum passum fuisse persecutionem nec tamen iustum esse sed impium. unde iam cogeris confiteri non debere quid quisque patiatur, sed quare patiatur adtendi.
Now as to the odium of persecution which you boast that you suffer from the earthly powers for the party of Donatus: although I have answered you sufficiently and abundantly in that work of three books, I shall not now keep silent either what can be briefly answered from this case of the Maximianensians, if you commend yourselves on that account to unskilled and imprudent peoples. For so Maximian himself, so his associates, who could not be made to yield even by the persecutions of your people so as to return to their communion, commend themselves to the vain and unskilled. But those who reflect soberly understand that, in those who suffer some trouble, not the penalties but the causes must be considered; they understand that those men, for the crime of sacrilegious schism, in which they were rightly and justly condemned by you, rightly and justly suffered even the disturbances of secular courts. For I do not mention what you set down in your letter: that not Optatus but the people overturned, not Maximian's basilica but his cave. And yet even there, though it is uncertain that your people did it, it is certain that he suffered persecution and yet was not righteous but ungodly. Hence you are now compelled to confess that one must look not at what anyone suffers but at why he suffers.
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Summary: Augustine says the Maximianists' sufferings, like the Donatists', prove nothing: the cause, not the penalty, makes a martyr.
Topics: Persecution, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.55 (CSEL 52:552–553; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-55). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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