Against Cresconius, a Donatist Grammarian 4.17–4.35

Latin text: Petschenig, CSEL 52 (Latin text: Michael Petschenig, Contra Cresconium (CSEL 52, 1909), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 4 (1887).

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Chapter 4

4.17CSEL 52:517–518

Frustra igitur ore maledico conscientiam nostram tamquam publicatam atque damnatam crimine turificationis traditionis persecutionis accusare uoluisti, ut ex hoc uelut probares nos baptismum dare non posse, cum et falsa iactetis et, quomodo se illud habeat, certe Maximianensium sacrilegii crimine damnata conscientia dare potuit baptismum, quem rescindere timuistis et quem dari etiam a persecutoribus posse per uos quoque ipsos docetur, qui eosdem Maximianenses acerrime persecuti non solum baptizatis, sed uos solos baptizare debere contenditis.

In vain, then, with abusive mouth, did you wish to accuse our conscience as publicly exposed and condemned for the crime of offering incense, of handing over, of persecution, so as to prove from this that we cannot give baptism; since you both spread falsehoods and, however that may be, certainly the conscience of the Maximianensians, condemned for the crime of sacrilege, could give baptism, which you were afraid to cancel; and that it can be given even by persecutors is taught through you yourselves, who, having most fiercely persecuted those same Maximianensians, not only baptize but contend that you alone ought to baptize.

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Summary: Augustine notes that the Maximianists' condemned consciences could give baptism, and the Donatists, who persecuted them, still baptize.

Topics: Baptism, Persecution

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.17 (CSEL 52:517–518; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.18CSEL 52:518–519

Dicis in lege scriptum esse: oleum peccatoris nolo ungat caput meum. quod neque ita scriptum est nec sicut putas intellegendum. sed numquid non est oleum peccatoris oleum sacrilegorum Praetextati et Feliciani? dicis item scriptum esse: qui baptizatur a mortuo quid ei prodest lauatio eius? quod nec diligenter adtendis nec ex ipsa circumstantia lectionis quid sit intellegis. uerumtamen intende, quid personet disertissima illa Bagaitana sententia: optata quidem, inquit, pacis et concordiae est iuncta germanitas, sicut scriptum est: iustitia et pax osculatae sunt inuicem. sed ueridica unda in asperos scopulos nonnullorum naufraga proiecta sunt membra, Aegyptiorum admodum exemplo pereuntium funeribus plena sunt litora, quibus in ipsa morte maior est poena. quod post extortam aquis ultricibus animam nec ipsam inueniunt sepulturam. isti ergo non solum mortui, uerum etiam, quod est grauius, insepulti quomodo baptizare potuerunt? quomodo profuit lauatio eis qui ab his mortuis baptizati sunt, quos in eodem lauacro susceptos denuo non lauistis, si, ut putas, illud intellegendum est? nam quod in epistula mea, cui respondere tibi uideris, putas quod idoli cultorem tamquam grauissimi peccati reum tantummodo exceperim et instas uehementer, ut probes nullum excipi peccatorem in eo quod scriptum esse dicis: oleum peccatoris nolo ungat caput meum, Felicianum et Praetextatum respice, utrum peccatores non fuerint, quando catena sacrilegii cum Maximiano pertrahi tam magno concilio dicebantur. aude adserere, aude contendere, aude saltem dicere peccatores quidem fuisse sed occultos, quos ibi lego famosi criminis reos. quamquam etsi leuiter peccauissent, etsi latuissent, tu hoc testimonio, quod ponis de oleo peccatoris, in ista suggestione extorquere conaris nullum excipi peccatorem. ubi eritis, si ita est, quo fugietis, in quibus uos latebris cum uestris sacrilegis, cum uestris famosi criminis reis, cum uestris cadaueribus insepultis abscondere poteritis?

You say it is written in the law, “I do not want the oil of a sinner to anoint my head.” This is neither so written nor to be understood as you think. But is not the oil of a sinner the oil of the sacrilegious Praetextatus and Felicianus? You say likewise that it is written, “He who is baptized by a dead man, what does his washing profit him?” You neither attend to this carefully nor understand what it is from the very context of the reading. Yet notice what that most eloquent sentence of Bagai proclaims: “The union of peace and concord,” it says, “is indeed desired, as it is written, ‘Righteousness and peace have kissed each other.’ But by the truth-telling wave the shipwrecked limbs of some have been thrown on rough rocks; like the example of the Egyptians perishing, the shores are full of corpses, whose punishment is greater in death itself, because, after their life has been wrung out by the avenging waters, they do not even find burial.” How, then, could these men, not only dead but, what is graver, unburied, baptize? How did washing profit those who were baptized by these dead men, whom you received in the same washing and did not wash again, if it is to be understood as you think? For as to your thinking that in my letter, which you seem to yourself to answer, I excepted only the worshiper of an idol as guilty of the gravest sin, and your pressing vehemently to prove that no sinner is excepted in what you say is written, “I do not want the oil of a sinner to anoint my head”: look at Felicianus and Praetextatus, whether they were not sinners when they were said by so great a council to be dragged with Maximian by the chain of sacrilege. Dare to assert, dare to contend, dare at least to say that they were sinners indeed, but hidden, whom I read there as guilty of a notorious crime. And yet, even if they had sinned lightly, even if they had been hidden, you try in this suggestion to extort from the testimony you set down about the oil of the sinner that no sinner is excepted. Where will you be, if it is so? Where will you flee? In what hiding places will you be able to conceal yourselves with your sacrilegious men, with your men guilty of a notorious crime, with your unburied corpses?

Ps 141:5 (140:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 85:10 (84:11 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 14:30 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine turns the Donatist proof texts about the sinner's oil and the dead baptizer against them, since their council called the Maximianists sinners and unburied corpses.

  • Ps 141:5 (140:5 LXX); Sir 34:25; Ps 85:10 (84:11 LXX); Exod 14:30. The phrase “ueridica unda” is translated as printed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Unreadable letter in the digital text.): bapti?atur → baptizatur.

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 34:25 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.18 (CSEL 52:518–519; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.19CSEL 52:519–520

Dicis, cum obicitur qua nobis licentia ius baptismatis uindicemus, quod non de merito actuum, non de uitae innocentia tractemus, sed cuicumque licere dicamus et quasi praeiudicatis criminibus rei, dum et peccatoribus inesse baptizandi facultatem uolumus ostendere, nos aperte peccasse fateamur. quasi propter merita nostra contra deum nobis loquendum sit, ut quam iusti sumus tam iustum baptismum esse faciamus, cum et nulli hominum de sua iustitia praesumendum sit et hinc maxime baptismum Christi probemus esse, non hominum, quia non fit uarius humanorum uarietate meritorum. unde uberius disputarem, nisi a uobis dato conpendio magis uterer. suscepto enim baptismo neque destructo, quem Maximianenses dederunt, aspides uiperae parricidae cadauera Aegyptia et quidquid aliud in eos Bagaiensi concilio, ut nostra causa facillima fieret, ore grandiloquo declamatum est, satis et ipsi iudicastis non eorum meritis a quibus ministratur nec eorum quibus ministratur constare baptismum, sed propria sanctitate atque ueritate propter eum, a quo institutus est male utentibus ad perniciem, bene utentibus ad salutem.

You say that, when we are challenged on what license we claim the right of baptism, we do not discuss the merit of our actions or the innocence of our life, but say it is permitted to anyone; and that, as though guilty of crimes already judged, while we wish to show that the power of baptizing is present even in sinners, we openly confess that we have sinned. As though we ought to speak against God on account of our merits, so as to make baptism as righteous as we are righteous; when no man ought to presume on his own righteousness, and we prove from this most of all that baptism is Christ's, not men's, because it does not vary with the variety of human merits. On this I would argue more fully, were I not rather using the shortcut given by you. For by receiving and not destroying the baptism which the Maximianensians gave, asps, vipers, parricides, Egyptian corpses, and whatever else was declaimed against them with grandiloquent mouth in the council of Bagai, so that our case might become very easy, you yourselves have judged sufficiently that baptism does not depend on the merits of those by whom it is ministered, nor of those to whom it is ministered, but on its own holiness and truth, because of him by whom it was instituted; to ruin for those who use it badly, to salvation for those who use it well.

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Summary: Augustine says baptism does not vary with the minister's merit, as the Donatists conceded by accepting the Maximianists' baptisms.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.19 (CSEL 52:519–520; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.20CSEL 52:520–521

Miror autem, quomodo etiam tibi persuadere potuerunt, ut in tua disputatione mentionem faceres Cypriani, cuius litteris etiam ipsis, quas eius esse dicitis, de baptismo destruendo, qui apud haereticos uel schismaticos datur, tota causa uestra subuertitur. sed hoc aduersus Maximianenses uel alios, qui baptismum siue apud uos siue apud nos datum non suscipiunt, agere debemus; uos autem iam causam istam mira facilitate finistis, iam baptismum in sacrilego schismate Maximiani datum cum Praetextato et Feliciano in eorum populis suscepistis, iam contra Cypriani quas dicitis litteras et quibuscumque aliis hoc uisum est sine ulla dubitatione fecistis. nam quod dicis orientales ideo (a) uestrorum communione discretos, quia postea nobiscum sentiendo iudicium suum quod habuerunt de baptismo rescindere maluerunt, si hoc a quibus paucis orientalibus factum est, quod quidem interest utrum possit ostendi, profecto suum iudicium correxerunt. et uos suscepto baptismo, qui datus est in schismate Maximiani, antiquam uestram sententiam rescidistis; tamen uobiscum estis et cum orientalibus esse non uultis.

I wonder, though, how they could persuade even you to mention Cyprian in your disputation, by whose writings, even the ones you say are his, on destroying baptism given among heretics or schismatics, your whole case is overturned. But this we ought to argue against the Maximianensians or others who do not receive baptism given either among you or among us; you, however, have already ended this case with wonderful ease; you have already received, with Praetextatus and Felicianus, in their congregations, the baptism given in Maximian's sacrilegious schism; you have already acted, without any hesitation, against the writings you say are Cyprian's and against all others who held this view. For as to your saying that the Easterners were separated from your people's communion because afterwards, agreeing with us, they chose to cancel the judgment they had held about baptism: if this was done by some few Easterners (and it matters whether this can be shown), they certainly corrected their judgment. And you too, by receiving the baptism given in Maximian's schism, cancelled your ancient opinion; yet you are with yourselves, and you will not be with the Easterners.

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Summary: Augustine says the Donatists, by accepting Maximianist baptisms, abandoned Cyprian's view on rebaptism, just as they blamed the Easterners for doing.

  • The word in round brackets is the editor's supplement.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.20 (CSEL 52:520–521; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.21CSEL 52:521–522

Sed uidelicet inuenisse tibi uideris ubi tuam eloquentiam dilatares, cum ad id, quod ego in epistula mea posui: siue a fideli siue a perfido dispensatore sacramentum baptismi quisque percipiat, spes ei omnis in Christo sit, exclamas et dicis: o praeclarum sacerdotis imperium, o laudabilia boni patris praecepta iustitiae! nihil, inquit, inter fidelem perfidumque discernas, idem tibi pius atque impius uideatur, nihil prodest bonis moribus uiuere, quia quidquid iusto licet potest et iniustus implere. quid hoc praecepto dici iniquius potest: purificet alium maculosus, abluat sordidus, emundet inmundus, det infidelis fidem, criminosus faciat innocentem? haec certe uerba tua sunt, quibus sententiam meam reprehendis, cum hoc ego omnino non consenserim neque scripserim, quia et inter fidelem perfidumque plurimum distat non ad sacramentum, si hoc uterque habet, sed ad meritum, quia hoc alter ad salutem habet, alter ad poenam, nec quidquid iusto licet potest et iniustus implere, quia etsi potest iniustus baptizare, non tamen potest in regnum caelorum iniustus intrare, nec purificat uel abluit uel emundat nec innocentem facit quemquam qui ei ministrat baptismum, sed dantis dei gratia et percipientis bona conscientia. sed tu aspice, utrum nihil inter Primianum Felicianumque distaret, cum Primianus inter trecentos decem sederet. a quibus ille dicebatur quod uenenum aspidum esset sub labiis eius et ueloces haberet pedes ad effundendum sanguinem et contribulatio et infelicitas in uiis eius et uiam pacis ignoraret nec esset timor dei ante oculos eius, utrum tunc non esset maculosus inmundus sordidus qui uas sordidum collecta faeculentia glutinauit, non infidelis uenenum aspidum sub labiis habens, non criminosus famosi criminis reus. et tamen et ipse nunc cum Primiano uester episcopus sedet et quos tunc baptizauit nusquam postea lotos uobiscum nunc habet.

But no doubt you think you have found where to spread out your eloquence when, at what I set down in my letter, “Whether one receives the sacrament of baptism from a faithful or a faithless steward, let all his hope be in Christ,” you exclaim and say: “O splendid command of a priest! O praiseworthy precepts of righteousness from a good father! ‘Make no distinction,’ he says, ‘between the faithful and the faithless; let the godly and the ungodly seem the same to you.’ It profits nothing to live with good morals, because whatever is permitted to the righteous, the unrighteous too can fulfill. What can be said more unjustly than this precept: let the stained purify another, the dirty wash, the unclean cleanse, the faithless give faith, the criminal make innocent?” These are certainly your words, by which you blame my opinion, though I neither agreed to this at all nor wrote it; for there is a very great difference between the faithful and the faithless, not as to the sacrament, if both have it, but as to merit, because one has it for salvation, the other for punishment; nor can the unrighteous fulfill whatever is permitted to the righteous, because, though the unrighteous can baptize, the unrighteous cannot enter the kingdom of heaven; nor does the one who ministers baptism purify or wash or cleanse or make anyone innocent, but the grace of God who gives and the good conscience of the one who receives. But you, look whether there was no difference between Primian and Felicianus, when Primian sat among the three hundred and ten, by whom it was said of the other that the poison of asps was under his lips, that he had feet swift to shed blood, that affliction and misery were in his ways, that he did not know the way of peace, and that there was no fear of God before his eyes; whether he was not then stained, unclean, and dirty, who glued together a filthy vessel from collected dregs; not faithless, having the poison of asps under his lips; not criminal, guilty of a notorious crime. And yet he too now sits as your bishop with Primian, and has with you now those he baptized then, never washed again afterwards.

Rom 3:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:18 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine answers Cresconius's rhetorical outburst: faithful and faithless ministers differ in merit, not in the sacrament, as the Donatists' reception of Felicianus shows.

  • Rom 3:13–18, applied in the sentence of Bagai.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Garbled OCR of praecepta.; Hyphenated word split in the digital text.): pi aecepta → praecepta; macu- (losus → maculosus.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.21 (CSEL 52:521–522; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.22CSEL 52:522–523

Et adhuc pugnatis aduersus ueritatem nec conceditis, ut Christus semper det fidem, Christus sit origo christiani, in Christo radicem christianus infigat, Christus christiani sit caput. quibus uerbis meis in illa epistula contra Petilianum positis tua uerba subiungis et dicis: hoc et nos suademus, hoc uolumus, sed quaerimus per quem hoc melius fiat, nec adtendis hoc non suadere Petilianum, cui tunc respondi et cuius epistulam aduersus responsionem meam defendere atque affirmare conaris. ille quippe aperte dixit: conscientia sancte dantis adtenditur quae abluat accipientis. nam qui fidem a perfido sumpserit non fidem percipit sed reatum. dic mihi, quem locum Christo reliquerit ad abluendam conscientiam baptizati aut a quo fidem percipiat baptizatus, quando conscientiam dantis dicit attendi quae abluat accipientis, et non fidem percipere sed reatum, qui fidem sumit a perfido. tu quidem cedere uideris tanto ponderi ueritatis et dicis hoc te suadere et hoc uelle, ut Christus det fidem atque ad ineundam uitam nouam Christus abluat christianum, quaeris autem per quem melius fiat, quod sine ministro fieri non oportet. Petilianus tamen non dixit: conscientia ministrantis adtenditur, per quam Christus abluat accipientis aut per quam Christus det fidem, sed ipsa conscientia dantis uoluit accipientis ablui conscientiam, nec dixit: (quisquis fidem per perfidum sumpserit non fidem percipit sed reatum, ut a Christo quamuis per alium sumere uideretur, sed omnino dixit: a perfido sumpserit atque ad hoc, quasi probaret, adiunxit: omnis enim res origine et radice consistit et, si caput non habeat aliquid, nihil est, ipsum scilicet ministrum, cuius conscientiam dixit attendi non per quam Christus abluat, sed quae abluat accipientis, ipsum prorsus ministrum originem, radicem caputque faciens baptizati.

And still you fight against the truth and do not grant that Christ always gives faith, that Christ is the origin of the Christian, that the Christian fixes his root in Christ, that Christ is the head of the Christian. To these words of mine, set down in that letter against Petilian, you add your words and say: “This we too urge, this we want; but we ask through whom this is better done”; and you do not notice that Petilian, to whom I then replied and whose letter you try to defend and affirm against my reply, does not urge this. For he said plainly: “The conscience of one who gives in holiness is looked to, to wash that of the recipient. For he who receives faith from the faithless receives not faith but guilt.” Tell me, what place has he left for Christ in washing the conscience of the baptized, or from whom does the baptized receive faith, when he says that the conscience of the giver is looked to, to wash that of the recipient, and that one who receives faith from the faithless receives not faith but guilt? You indeed seem to yield to so great a weight of truth, and say that you urge and want this: that Christ give faith and that Christ wash the Christian for entering upon new life; but you ask through whom that is better done which ought not to be done without a minister. Petilian, however, did not say, “The conscience of the minister is looked to, through which Christ washes that of the recipient, or through which Christ gives faith”; but he wanted the recipient's conscience to be washed by the very conscience of the giver. Nor did he say, “Whoever receives faith through the faithless receives not faith but guilt,” so that he might seem to receive it from Christ, though through another; but he said absolutely “from the faithless.” And to this, as if proving it, he added: “For everything consists in its origin and root, and if something does not have a head, it is nothing”; making the minister himself, whose conscience he said was looked to, not as that through which Christ washes, but as that which washes the recipient's, the very origin, root, and head of the baptized.

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Summary: Augustine shows that Petilian made the minister's conscience the source of cleansing, which differs from Cresconius's softened claim that Christ acts through the minister.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Repeated syllable in the digital text.): conconscientia → conscientia.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.22 (CSEL 52:522–523; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.23CSEL 52:523–524

Proinde hoc loco non Petiliano, cuius uerba non defendisti, sed tibi respondeo, qui pro tua sententia nescio quid aliud, non quod ille, dixisti. tu enim, sicut scribis, hoc uis, hoc suades, ut non, sicut ille dixit, conscientia sancte dantis abluat accipientem uel accipienti det fidem neque ut ipsa sit origo et radix caputque credentis, sed per ipsam Christus abluat, per ipsam Christus det fidem, per ipsam Christus sit origo christiani, per ipsam in Christo radicem christianus infigat, per ipsam Christus christiani sit caput. ideo enim quaeris, per quem melius fiat quod a Christo fieri concedis, ubi et tu, quantum uideo, non negas hoc fieri posse etiam per ministrum malum, sed dicis melius posse per bonum. quid est enim aliud quod dicis: hoc et nos suademus, hoc uolumus, sed quaerimus per quem melius fiat? ac per hoc abluit Christus et per maculosam non sancte dantis, sed melius per mundam sancte dantis conscientiam, dat fidem Christus et per ministrum malum, sed melius per bonum, fit Christus origo christiani et per dispensatorem infidelem, sed melius per fidelem, christianus radicem figit in Christo etiam per colonum reprobum, sed melius per probum, potest Christus caput esse christiani et per Felicianum, sed melius existimas per Primianum.

Accordingly, in this place I answer not Petilian, whose words you did not defend, but you, who said for your own opinion something else, not what he said. For you, as you write, want and urge this: not, as he said, that the conscience of one giving in holiness washes the recipient or gives the recipient faith, nor that it is itself the origin, root, and head of the believer; but that through it Christ washes, through it Christ gives faith, through it Christ is the origin of the Christian, through it the Christian fixes his root in Christ, through it Christ is the head of the Christian. For this is why you ask through whom that which you grant is done by Christ is better done; where you too, as far as I see, do not deny that this can be done even through a bad minister, but say it can be done better through a good one. For what else is it that you say, “This we too urge, this we want; but we ask through whom it is better done”? And so Christ washes even through the stained conscience of one who does not give in holiness, but better through the clean conscience of one who gives in holiness; Christ gives faith even through a bad minister, but better through a good one; Christ becomes the origin of the Christian even through a faithless steward, but better through a faithful one; the Christian fixes his root in Christ even through a reprobate farmer, but better through an upright one; Christ can be the head of the Christian even through Felicianus, but better, you think, through Primian.

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine draws out that Cresconius's “better through a good minister” concedes that Christ acts even through a bad one.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Stray mark in the digital text.): per quem?melius → per quem melius.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.23 (CSEL 52:523–524; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.24CSEL 52:524

Parua itaque inter nos in hac re aut fortasse nulla dissensio est. nam et ego dico melius per bonum ministrum quam per malum dispensari sacramenta diuina, uerum hoc propter ipsum ministrum melius est, ut eis rebus, quas ministrat, uita et moribus congruat, non propter illum, qui, etiamsi incurrerit in ministrum malum dispensantem ueritatem, securitatem accipit a domino suo monente ac dicente: quae dicunt facite, quae autem faciunt facere nolite. dicunt enim et non faciunt. addo etiam ad hoc esse melius, ut ille cui ministratur ministri boni probitatem ac sanctitatem diligendo facilius imitetur, sed non ideo ueriora et sanctiora sunt quae ministrantur, quia per meliorem ministrantur. illa namque per se ipsa uera et sancta sunt propter deum uerum et sanctum cuius sunt, et ideo fieri potest, ut accedens ad societatem populi dei alium inueniat a quo facile baptizetur, alium eligat quem salubriter imitetur. certus est enim sanctum esse sacramentum Christi, etiamsi per minus sanctum uel non sanctum hominem ministratum est, se autem eiusdem ipsius sacramenti sanctitate puniri, si indigne acceperit, si male usus fuerit, si non ei conuenienter et congrue uixerit.

So there is little or perhaps no disagreement between us on this matter. For I too say that the divine sacraments are better dispensed through a good minister than through a bad one; but this is better for the sake of the minister himself, that his life and morals may agree with the things he ministers; not for the sake of the one who, even if he comes upon a bad minister dispensing the truth, receives security from his Lord, who warns and says: “Do what they say, but do not do what they do; for they say and do not do.” I add also that it is better for this: that the one to whom it is ministered may more easily imitate the uprightness and holiness of a good minister by loving it. But the things ministered are not truer and holier because they are ministered through a better man. For they are true and holy in themselves because of the true and holy God whose they are; and so it may happen that one coming to the fellowship of God's people finds one by whom he is readily baptized and chooses another whom he may profitably imitate. For he is certain that the sacrament of Christ is holy even if ministered through a less holy or an unholy man, but that he himself will be punished by the holiness of that same sacrament if he received it unworthily, if he used it badly, if he did not live in a way fitting and suited to it.

Matt 23:3 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine agrees a good minister is better, for his own sake and as an example, but the sacrament is holy because it is God's, whoever ministers it.

  • Matt 23:3.

Topics: Baptism, Church office

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.24 (CSEL 52:524; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.25CSEL 52:524–525

Nam quaero abs te: si forte, quem Primianus in uestra communione baptizauit, pessime uiuat, quem uero Felicianus in Maximiani schismate baptizauit, optime uiuat, cuinam eorum patere existimas regnum dei, utrum ei, quem baptizauit secundum te bonus malum, an ei, quem baptizauit secundum Bagaiense concilium sacrilegus religiosum? sed forte dicis et uerum dicis: non potest esse religiosus in schismate constitutus. assentio. uerumtamen potest esse in uestra communione sacrilegus uel occultus a Primiano, quem religiosum creditis, baptizatus. porro si ille, quem Felicianus in catena sacrilegii baptizauit, relicto schismatis sacrilegio ecclesiastica communione corrigeretur, numquid audes dicere, quod melior in illo baptismus fieret, quamuis negare non audeas ipsum hominem fieri potuisse meliorem? hoc enim et ipso facto iudicastis, quandoquidem illos omnes, quos Felicianus et Praetextatus in damnato et detestato a uobis sacrilegio schismatis baptizarunt, cum illis ad uos redeuntibus sine ulla destructione uel repetitione baptismi suscepistis. si autem, quod dixisti: sed quaerimus per quem melius fiat, conparatiuum gradum pro positiuo posuisti, sic dicens: quaerimus per quem melius fiat, ac si diceres: quaerimus per quem bene fiat, uolens intellegi per malum ministrum male fieri, non te uerbo urgeo, sed admoneo potius te dicere debuisse: quaerimus per quem fiat quam: quaerimus per quem bene fiat, quasi posset fieri, ut non bene Christus det fidem, non bene sit Christus origo caputque christiani, non bene radix figatur in Christo. aut enim non fit aut, si fit, procul dubio bene fit.

For I ask you: if perhaps one whom Primian baptized in your communion lives very badly, while one whom Felicianus baptized in Maximian's schism lives very well, to which of them do you think the kingdom of God is open: to the one whom, according to you, a good man baptized as a bad one, or to the one whom, according to the council of Bagai, a sacrilegious man baptized as a devout one? But perhaps you say, and say truly: “One placed in schism cannot be devout.” I agree. Yet one baptized by Primian, whom you believe devout, can be sacrilegious, or hidden, in your communion. Further, if the one whom Felicianus baptized in the chain of sacrilege were corrected, leaving the sacrilege of schism, by the church's communion, do you dare to say that the baptism in him would become better, although you do not dare to deny that the man himself could have become better? For you judged this by the very deed, since you received all those whom Felicianus and Praetextatus baptized in the sacrilege of schism, condemned and detested by you, when they returned to you with them, without any destruction or repetition of baptism. But if, in saying, “But we ask through whom it is better done,” you put the comparative degree for the positive, saying, “We ask through whom it is better done,” as if you said, “We ask through whom it is done well,” wishing it to be understood that through a bad minister it is done badly, I do not press you on the word, but rather remind you that you ought to have said, “We ask through whom it is done,” rather than, “We ask through whom it is done well,” as if it could happen that Christ gives faith not well, that Christ is not well the origin and head of the Christian, that the root is not well fixed in Christ. For either it is not done, or, if it is done, it is without doubt done well.

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Summary: Augustine argues that a convert from schism becomes better but his baptism does not, and that what Christ does is always done well.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Repeated word in the digital text.; Stray mark in the digital text.): constitutus*. → constitutus.; melius fiat fiat → melius fiat.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.25 (CSEL 52:524–525; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.26CSEL 52:525–526

Uerumtamen ista tractamus, ne propter malos dispensatores non tamen suorum, sed dominicorum sacramentorum, quos necesse est usque ad tempus uentilationis areae dominicae commisceri, deseratur ipsa unitas frumentorum. schisma autem facere ab unitate Christi aut esse in schismate profecto malum est et magnum malum, nec omnino fieri potest, ut Christus det schismatico non fidem, sed sacrilegum errorem. aut in Christo radicem schismaticus fixerit aut schismatico Christus sit origo uel caput, et tamen baptismum Christi si dederit datum erit, si acceperit acceptum erit, non ad uitam aeternam, sed ad poenam aeternam, si in eo sacrilegio perseuerauerit non in malum conuertendo bonum quod habet, sed malo suo bonum habendo quamdiu malus habet.

Yet we treat these things so that the unity of the wheat itself may not be deserted on account of bad dispensers of sacraments that are not theirs but the Lord's, who must be mixed with it until the time of the winnowing of the Lord's threshing floor. But to make a schism from the unity of Christ, or to be in schism, is certainly evil, and a great evil; nor can it happen at all that Christ gives the schismatic, not faith, but sacrilegious error; or that the schismatic has fixed his root in Christ, or that Christ is the origin or head of the schismatic. And yet, if he gives the baptism of Christ, it will have been given; if he receives it, it will have been received; not for eternal life but for eternal punishment, if he persists in that sacrilege; not by turning into evil the good he has, but by having the good to his own evil as long as he is evil.

Matt 3:12 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine says schism is a great evil, yet baptism given or received in schism is real, though it serves for punishment while the schism lasts.

  • Matt 3:12.

Topics: Baptism, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.26 (CSEL 52:525–526; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.27CSEL 52:526

Quaeris forte ut hoc probem. quid aliud tibi dicam nisi quod hoc opere institui? Bagaiense decretum lege, Felicianum et Praetextatum intuere. schismatici dederunt, (schismatici acceperunt); utrique a uobis recepti et collecti sunt, nec illi degradati nec illi rebaptizati. iam certe non quaeris, utrum fiat melius per iustum ministrum an per iniustum, quoniam non ideo est baptismus melior quem dedit Primianus secundum uos iustus, quam ille quem dedit Felicianus iniustus. certe iam intellegere cogeris, quomodo apostolus dixerit: neque qui plantat est aliquid neque qui rigat, sed qui incrementum dat deus, teque frustra dixisse recolis: sicut qui plantat et rigat non nisi colonus diligens et fidelis inquiritur, sic etiam in sacramento baptismatis non nisi iustissimus operarius adprobatur. ecce nec diligens nec fidelis nec iustissimus, sed potius salutis suae neglegens et infidelis et iniustissimus Felicianus fuit, quando Maximiano sociatus et, sicut trecenti et decem uestri unius ore disertissimo personant, in catena sacrilegii constitutus baptismum, quem non ausi estis rescindere, ministrauit.

Perhaps you ask me to prove this. What else shall I tell you than what I have undertaken in this work? Read the decree of Bagai; look at Felicianus and Praetextatus. Schismatics gave it, schismatics received it; both were received and gathered by you, neither were the former degraded nor the latter rebaptized. Surely you no longer ask whether it is better done through a just minister or an unjust one, since the baptism which Primian, just according to you, gave is not better than that which the unjust Felicianus gave. Surely you are now compelled to understand how the apostle said, “Neither he who plants is anything nor he who waters, but God who gives the growth”; and you recall that you said in vain: “Just as for planting and watering only a diligent and faithful farmer is sought, so too in the sacrament of baptism only a most righteous workman is approved.” See, Felicianus was neither diligent nor faithful nor most righteous, but rather neglectful of his salvation, faithless, and most unrighteous, when, associated with Maximian and, as your three hundred and ten proclaim through one most eloquent mouth, placed in the chain of sacrilege, he ministered the baptism which you did not dare to cancel.

1 Cor 3:7 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine points to the Maximianist baptisms accepted by the Donatists as proof that God, not the minister's righteousness, gives baptism its growth.

  • 1 Cor 3:7.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Word split in the digital text.): per int iustum → per iniustum.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.27 (CSEL 52:526; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.28CSEL 52:526–527

Certe ad hanc causam cernis non pertinere testimonium, quod ex propheta posuisti: dabo uobis pastores secundum cor meum, et pascent uos pascentes cum disciplina. Felicianus enim nec secundum cor dei sacrilegus erat nec oues eius in sacrilego schismate pascebat cum disciplina, et tamen baptizabat eos, in quibus receptis cognouistis non ipsius, sed dei fuisse quod dabat. certe perspicis, quomodo a me de scriptura sancta commemoratum est bonum esse confidere in domino quam confidere in homine, teque inaniter, quantum ad hanc causam pertinet, respondisse, quod ideo magis ut iustus et fidelis sit per quem hoc sacramentum celebretur inquiras, quia spem et fiduciam dei, non hominis habes, dei esse autem fidem atque iustitiam, quam semper in eius ministris adtendis. ecce in Feliciano, quando fuit famosi criminis reus, nec iustitia nec fides erat, et tamen baptismus erat et quibus ab eo datus est, cum a uobis collecti sunt, eis accessisse iustitiam dicitis, baptismum defuisse non dicitis.

Surely you see that the testimony you set down from the prophet does not apply to this case: “I will give you shepherds after my own heart, and they will feed you, feeding with discipline.” For Felicianus, being sacrilegious, was not after God's heart, nor was he feeding his sheep with discipline in sacrilegious schism; and yet he baptized them, and in receiving them you recognized that what he gave was not his but God's. Surely you perceive how I mentioned from holy Scripture that it is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in man, and that you answered emptily, as far as this case is concerned, that you seek all the more that the one through whom this sacrament is celebrated be just and faithful because you have hope and trust in God, not in man, and because faith and righteousness, which you always look for in his ministers, are God's. See, in Felicianus, when he was guilty of a notorious crime, there was neither righteousness nor faith; and yet there was baptism; and for those to whom it was given by him, when they were gathered by you, you say righteousness was added; you do not say baptism was lacking.

Jer 3:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 118:8 (117:8 LXX) (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine notes that Felicianus lacked faith and righteousness, yet the Donatists admitted his baptism was real, adding only righteousness on reception.

  • Jer 3:15; Ps 118:8 (117:8 LXX).

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.28 (CSEL 52:526–527; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.29CSEL 52:527–528

Proinde quod deinceps a me quaeris: si a quocumque et quomodocumque datum baptisma rescindi non debet, cur post Iohannem apostoli baptizauerint, tu iam solue quaestionem, si, ut dicis, post Iohannem apostoli baptizauerint. cur post Felicianum quos in sacrilego schismate baptizauerat uestri non baptizauerint, et hinc saltem disce, quidquid illud est quod de Iohannis baptismo uel legitur uel disseritur, ab hac causa esse penitus alienum. quid autem tibi uisum sit nescio, ut Iudaeos, quibus ait Petrus: baptizetur unusquisque uestrum in nomine domini Iesu Christi, iam fuisse a Moyse diceres baptizatos, qui post tot generationes nati fuerunt quam ille dei famulus maiores eorum per Rubrum Mare transiecit. aut si propterea a Moyse baptismum habebant, quia ex illis propagati sunt quos in Moyse baptizatos dicit apostolus, aude dicere omnes, qui nascuntur ex fidelibus christianis, christianum habere iam baptismum. quod uides, ut arbitror, quanta uanitate dicatur. sed quomodo se habeat illud, etiamsi post Moysen dei famulum apostoli baptizassent, te urgerem reddere rationem, cur post Felicianum Maximianensem sacrilegum uestri non baptizassent.

Accordingly, as to what you next ask me, “If baptism given by anyone and in any way ought not to be cancelled, why did the apostles baptize after John?”, you yourself now solve the question: if, as you say, the apostles baptized after John, why did your people not baptize after Felicianus those whom he had baptized in sacrilegious schism? And from this at least learn that whatever is read or discussed about John's baptism is entirely foreign to this case. And I do not know what came into your head, to say that the Jews to whom Peter said, “Let each of you be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,” had already been baptized by Moses, they who were born so many generations after that servant of God brought their ancestors across the Red Sea. Or if they had baptism from Moses because they were descended from those whom the apostle says were baptized into Moses, dare to say that all who are born of faithful Christians already have Christian baptism. You see, I think, with how much emptiness that is said. But however that may be, even if the apostles had baptized after Moses, the servant of God, I would press you to give a reason why your people did not baptize after Felicianus, the sacrilegious Maximianensian.

Acts 2:38 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:2 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine says the questions about John's baptism and Moses' crossing are irrelevant; the Donatists must explain why they did not rebaptize after Felicianus.

  • Acts 2:38; 1 Cor 10:2.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: Rubram for Rubrum.; OCR slip: ra for m.; Unreadable letter in the digital text.; Word split by a stray comma in the digital text.): si a quo, cumque → si a quocumque; bapti?etur → baptizetur; Rubram Mare → Rubrum Mare; Maxiraianensem → Maximianensem.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.29 (CSEL 52:527–528; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.30CSEL 52:528–529

Iam illud, quod posui: si errabant illi qui uolebant esse Pauli, quae tandem spes eorum est qui uolunt esse Donati?, prioribus partibus epistulae tuae non te refellisse puto, quod etiam ipse consideras in his, quae superius satis diximus. non ergo, sicut tibi uideris et quasi certus exultas, illa omnia, quae a Petiliano uel quolibet alio dicta sunt, recte dicta concludis. ipso quippe ordine, quo a te breuiter uelut recolendo reminiscendo decursa sunt, ego potius in hac causa Maximianensium non ea recte dicta concludo. quia nec conscientia sancte dantis erat in Feliciano, quando Maximiano cohaerens catena sacrilegii trahebatur, et a famosi criminis reo ac per hoc a manifesto perfido baptizabantur qui ab illo baptizabantur, nec origo et radix et caput ad salutem illis erat homo sacrilegus nec arbor bona erat in sacrilegi schismatis societate damnatus et adhuc in eodem sacrilegio constitutus, nec bonus erat qui de bono thesauro cordis sui proferret bona, quando de illo et de aliis eius sociis dicebatur: quorum os maledictione et amaritudine plenum est. et tamen, quando cum illo uestri concordauerunt, baptismum quem talis dederat non ipsius esse, sed Christi aliquando ui ueritatis territi cognouerunt.

Now as to what I set down, “If those erred who wished to be of Paul, what hope, pray, is there for those who wish to be of Donatus?”, I think you did not refute it in the earlier parts of your letter, as you yourself also consider from what we have said sufficiently above. So you do not, as you think and exult as if certain, rightly conclude that all those things said by Petilian or anyone else were rightly said. For in the very order in which you ran through them briefly, as if recalling and remembering them, I rather conclude, in this case of the Maximianensians, that they were not rightly said. For neither was there the conscience of one giving in holiness in Felicianus, when, cleaving to Maximian, he was dragged by the chain of sacrilege; and those he baptized were baptized by one guilty of a notorious crime and therefore by a manifestly faithless man; nor was a sacrilegious man their origin, root, and head for salvation; nor was one condemned in the fellowship of sacrilegious schism and still placed in that same sacrilege a good tree; nor was he a good man bringing forth good things from the good treasure of his heart, when it was said of him and his other associates: “whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.” And yet, when your people came to agreement with him, they at last recognized, frightened by the force of truth, that the baptism which such a man had given was not his but Christ's.

1 Cor 1:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:17 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 6:45 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 3:14 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine says each of Petilian's claims (holy conscience, origin and root, good tree, good treasure) fails in the case of Felicianus, whose baptism the Donatists accepted as Christ's.

  • 1 Cor 1:12; Matt 7:17; Luke 6:45; Rom 3:14.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip: 08 for os.): quorum 08 maledictione → quorum os maledictione.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.30 (CSEL 52:528–529; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.31CSEL 52:529–530

Age iam uideamus suo loco, in epistula tua de Maximianensium causa quomodo te exuas. omnes enim, qui has litteras legunt, expectant procul dubio uel quid hinc a te dictum sit ubi dictum est uel a me quid responsum sit. itaque de Optato Gildoniano quod obiectis meis respondisti, nolo discutere, nolo in hominis causa, de cuius a uestris damnatione nihil ago, diutius immorari. facio certe iacturam huius obiecti, et hoc fortasse apud posteros, cum illius fuerit oblitterata memoria. nunc uero, quamdiu sunt homines, qui uitam illius moresque nouerunt, parum me de illo dixisse quam falsum potius conquerentur. neque enim sic legunt litteras nostras ut tu, qui ex me quaeris, ille quem tamquam rabidum fluctum appellauerim quid absorbuerit, cum illic habeas Praetextatum et Felicianum. nam uerba mea illic sic se habent: ita quidem, inquam. isti insultant schismaticis suis, ut eos et mortuos et insepultos uocent. sed certe optare debuerunt ut sepelirentur, ne de multitudine iacentium in litore cadauerum insepultorum Gildonianus Optatus incedens cum agmine militari tamquam rabidus fluctus ultra prosiliens Felicianum et Praetextatum introrsus postea resorberet. haec uerba mea cum ibi legeris, cur non omnia posuisti, cum eis respondere temptares? cur me ueluti arguis non dixisse quid rabidus fluctus ille sorbuerit, cum ibi scriptum uideas: Felicianum et Praetextatum introrsus postea resorberet?

Come now, let us see in its place how you extricate yourself in your letter from the case of the Maximianensians. For all who read these writings are without doubt waiting to see either what you said on this point where you said it, or what I answered. And so I do not wish to discuss what you answered to my charges about Optatus the Gildonian; I do not wish to linger longer on the case of a man about whose condemnation by your people I am not dealing. I certainly give up this charge, and perhaps this will be so among posterity, when his memory has been blotted out. But now, as long as there are men who knew his life and morals, they will rather complain that I said too little of him than that I said anything false. For they do not read my writings as you do, who ask me what that man, whom I called, as it were, a raging wave, swallowed up, when you have Praetextatus and Felicianus there. For my words there are these: “These men indeed so insult their schismatics as to call them both dead and unburied. But surely they ought to have wished that they be buried, lest, from the multitude of unburied corpses lying on the shore, Optatus the Gildonian, advancing with a military column like a raging wave leaping beyond, should afterwards suck back inward Felicianus and Praetextatus.” Since you read these words of mine there, why did you not set them all down when you tried to answer them? Why do you blame me, as it were, for not saying what that raging wave swallowed up, when you see written there, “should afterwards suck back inward Felicianus and Praetextatus”?

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Summary: Augustine notes that Cresconius ignored his earlier statement that Optatus the Gildonian had brought Felicianus and Praetextatus back by force.

  • The quotation is from Against the Letters of Petilian 1.10.11.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.31 (CSEL 52:529–530; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.32CSEL 52:530–531

Quid enim aliud uelut ad magnam defensionem suam respondere uestri solent, cum eis obicitur Praetextati et Feliciani talis receptio damnatorum, nisi: Optatus hoc uoluit. Optatus hoc fecit? quod et ipsae ciuitates Mustitana et Adsuritana testantur, quae se dicunt ex Optati comminatione Gildonianum militem formidantes coegisse episcopos suos ad communionem redire Primiani. uerum tu, quia hoc ab illo factum (non) inpudenter negari posse uidisti, hoc a me scriptum negasti, magis fortassis existimans litteras meas quam illam rem posse nesciri. sed licuerit episcopis uestris nescio quo Donatiano uel Numidico priuilegio de suo ignorare collega quidquid tota Africa conclamabat, cum Afris ab Afris obiecta crimina numquam probata, totiens absoluta orientalibus et occidentalibus terrae finibus ignota esse non sinant; ualeat apud uos baptismus ab Optato datus, quem sic damnare noluisti. ut tamen non fueris ausus absoluere, et non ualeat datus baptismus in ecclesiis apostolico labore fundatis Corinthiorum Galatarum Ephesiorum Colossensium Philippensium Thessalonicensium ceterarumque in sanctis litteris quas et uos legitis conscriptarum, ubi Caeciliani non dico falsum illud crimen, sed forte nec uerum nomen auditum est; habuerit conscientiam sancte dantis Optatus in illa uita, quam tu, sicut scripta tua indicant, etiamsi propter nos damnare erubuisti, tamen propter deum absoluere timuisti. in illa etiam publica fama, ubi latentem tibi uisum est attendi posse conscientiam, et accusetur conscientia tot tantarumque gentium christianarum, quia remotissimas lites ignorauit Afrorum: numquid etiam crimina istorum, Feliciani scilicet et Praetextati, quos trecenti et decem plenario concilio damnauerunt, similiter ignorare potuerunt?

For what else do your people usually answer, as if in great defense of themselves, when such a reception of the condemned Praetextatus and Felicianus is charged against them, except: “Optatus wanted this, Optatus did this”? This the cities of Musti and Assuras themselves testify, which say that, fearing the Gildonian soldiery because of Optatus's threats, they compelled their bishops to return to Primian's communion. But you, since you saw that it could not be shamelessly denied that this was done by him, denied that it was written by me, thinking perhaps that my writings rather than that fact could be unknown. But suppose your bishops were permitted, by some Donatian or Numidian privilege, not to know about their colleague what all Africa was proclaiming, while they will not allow crimes charged by Africans against Africans, never proved, so often acquitted, to be unknown to the eastern and western ends of the earth; suppose the baptism given by Optatus is valid among you, whom you would not condemn in such a way that yet you did not dare to acquit; and suppose baptism given in the churches founded by apostolic labor is not valid, those of the Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, Philippians, Thessalonians, and the others written of in the holy writings which you too read, where, I do not say that false charge, but perhaps not even the true name of Caecilian has been heard; suppose Optatus had the conscience of one giving in holiness in that life which you, as your writings show, even if you were ashamed to condemn it because of us, were afraid to acquit because of God; and in that public reputation in which it seemed to you a hidden conscience could be looked to; and suppose the conscience of so many and such great Christian nations is accused because it did not know the very remote lawsuits of the Africans: could they likewise be ignorant even of the crimes of these men, Felicianus and Praetextatus, whom three hundred and ten condemned in a plenary council?

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Summary: Augustine sets the Donatists' indulgence toward Optatus beside their condemnation of distant churches, and asks how they could be ignorant of crimes their own council proclaimed.

  • The word in round brackets is the editor's supplement.

Topics: Heresy, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.32 (CSEL 52:530–531; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.33CSEL 52:531–532

Et adhuc obicis unitati catholicae nescio qua facta nostrorum, quae aut falsa sunt aut peccata non sunt aut, etiamsi uera atque peccata sunt, bonorum societatem maculare non possunt. neque enim boni communicant peccatis alienis, quibus utique faciendis non consentiunt, quamuis cum ipsis, qui ea faciunt, donec de area dominica sicut palea uentilabro ultimo separentur, non eorum peccata, sed dei sacramenta communicent et intra eandem sagenam uelut pisces boni cum malis usque ad separationem, quae in litore, hoc est in fine saeculi tamquam in fine maris futura est, non ab eis corporum segregatione, sed uitae ac morum diuersitate disiuncti sint; sicut nec undecim apostoli furtis Iudae communicabant et tamen cum illo eidem domino uisibiliter cohaerebant, eundem magistrum audiebant, idem credendum euangelium percipiebant, eadem sacramenta sumebant, corporali cum illo congregatione permixti, spiritali dissimilitudine separati; sicut apostolus Paulus non communicabat contumaciae et inuidiae, hoc est diabolicis uitiis eorum, qui non caste Christum adnuntiabant, et tamen cum eis eundem Christum praedicabat, eiusdem Christi sacramenta participabat et de his dicebat: siue occasione siue ueritate Christus adnuntietur - nam hos martyr Cyprianus amantissimus unitatis non aliquo schismate uel haerese separatos, sed fratribus corporali congregatione fuisse commixtos et intellexit et scripsit —; sicut idem ipse Cyprianus auaritiae rapinis faenori collegarum non communicabat, quos dicebat esurientibus in ecclesia fratribus habere argentum largiter uelle, fundos insidiosis fraudibus rapere, usuris multiplicantibus faenus augere, quod malum etiam idololatriae conparauit, quorum tamen corporalem congregationem non refugiebat, ad eadem altaria consistebat, eundem sacratissimum cibum potumque sumebat. illi enim non aliis, sed sibi iudicium manducabant et bibebant, ille autem cum talibus non eorum peccata, sed mysteria Christi communicabat, coniunctissimus coetibus, disiunctissimus moribus. ad hoc enim et illae similitudines in scripturis et illa exempla praemissa sunt, ut disceremus frumentum esse nec aream dominicam propter paleae commixtionem deserere, pisces boni esse nec propter commixtionem malorum disruptis retibus foras ire, uasa esse misericordiae in honore facta atque mundata nec propter uasa perditionis et contumeliae de domo magna fugere. nulla enim causa in utrorumque temporali congregatione atque permixtione laudabiliter tolerantur mali, nisi ne damnabiliter deserantur boni. quod cum et uos in uestris tam multis et tam manifestis malis eadem necessitate faciatis, potes facile, si uelis, aduertere, quod non nisi animositate sacrilega uos a christianis tot ac tantis gentibus separatis.

And still you charge the Catholic unity with I know not what deeds of our people, which either are false or are not sins, or, even if true and sins, cannot stain the fellowship of the good. For the good do not share in others' sins, to the doing of which they certainly do not consent, even though with those who do them, until they are separated from the Lord's threshing floor like chaff by the last winnowing fan, they share not their sins but God's sacraments; and within the same net, like good fish with bad until the separation which will be on the shore, that is, at the end of the age as at the end of the sea, they are parted from them not by bodily segregation but by difference of life and morals. So the eleven apostles did not share in the thefts of Judas, and yet they visibly cleaved with him to the same Lord, heard the same teacher, received the same gospel to be believed, took the same sacraments, mixed with him in bodily assembly, separated by spiritual unlikeness. So the apostle Paul did not share in the contumacy and envy, that is, the devilish faults, of those who did not proclaim Christ sincerely, and yet he preached the same Christ with them, partook of the sacraments of the same Christ, and said of them, “Whether in pretense or in truth, let Christ be proclaimed” (for the martyr Cyprian, most loving of unity, both understood and wrote that these were not separated by any schism or heresy, but mixed with the brothers in bodily assembly). So the same Cyprian did not share in the avarice, plunder, and usury of his colleagues, of whom he said that, while brothers were hungry in the church, they wished to have money in abundance, to seize estates by treacherous frauds, to increase their gain by multiplying usury, an evil he even compared to idolatry; yet he did not flee their bodily assembly, but stood at the same altars and took the same most holy food and drink. For they ate and drank judgment not to others but to themselves; while he shared with such men not their sins but the mysteries of Christ, most closely joined in assemblies, most widely separated in morals. For this purpose those comparisons and examples were set forth in the Scriptures: that we might learn to be wheat and not desert the Lord's threshing floor because of the mixture of chaff; to be good fish and not go out by breaking the nets because of the mixture of bad ones; to be vessels of mercy made for honor and cleansed, and not flee from the great house because of the vessels of perdition and dishonor. For in the temporal gathering and mixture of both, the wicked are praiseworthily tolerated for no other reason than that the good may not be damnably deserted. Since you too do this, by the same necessity, among your so many and so manifest evil men, you can easily notice, if you wish, that it is only by sacrilegious animosity that you separate yourselves from Christians of so many and such great nations.

Matt 3:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:48 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 13:49 (allusion, high confidence) · John 12:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 9:23 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:20 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains, from Judas among the apostles, Paul's rivals, and Cyprian's greedy colleagues, that the good share sacraments, not sins, with the wicked until the final separation.

  • Matt 3:12; Matt 13:47–49; John 12:6; Phil 1:15–18; Cyprian, On the Lapsed 6; 1 Cor 11:29; Rom 9:21–23; 2 Tim 2:20–21.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Letter-spaced word split in the digital text.): e sur i en t i bus → esurientibus.

Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Laps. 6 (On the Lapsed; quotation)

Topics: Heresy, Eucharist

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.33 (CSEL 52:531–532; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.34CSEL 52:532–533

Itaque non solum Optatus in illa Gildoniana societate notissimus, sed quilibet obscurus apud uos te sciente. mali aliquid fecerit, cum eum non potueris a uestra communione separare, quia uel non tibi creditur accusanti uel accusare non audes, ne non ualeas conprobare, aut deserenda tibi est pars Donati aut talis eris, qualis ille cuius peccatum non ignoras, quamuis dissimiliter uiuas. hoc non secundum ueram, sed secundum uestram sententiam uobis rectissime dicitur. quis enim nescit te alienum esse ab illius malo, si consensione peccato eius non communicas? sed hinc agnoscere cogeris. quanta impietate obiciatis orbi christiano uel falsa uel certe ignota crimina Afrorum, cum tibi obici nolis quod de altero scis, quia hoc eis non potes persuadere, a quorum non uis societate discedere. ita, ne deseras quos putas bonos, ferre cogeris quos nosti malos, ac per hoc omnes conuincit ueritas malos, qui propter aliena crimina seu uera seu falsa, ceteris tamen incognita, sibi autem non offutura. disrupta unitate tot gentium deseruerunt bonos. hoc tam magnum nefas partis Donati ne aliquo modo excusare possetis, causa uobis Maximianensium procurata est, in quo uelut speculo uestram prauitatem conspectam, si uolueritis, corrigatis, si autem nolueritis — nolo quicquam grauius dicere, quando scio te cor habere. quid enim contra ista dicturus es?

And so, not only Optatus, so notorious in that Gildonian fellowship, but if any obscure person among you has done some evil with your knowledge, since you could not separate him from your communion, because either you are not believed when you accuse him or you do not dare to accuse him lest you be unable to prove it, either you must desert the party of Donatus, or you will be such as he whose sin you know, though you live differently. This is said to you most rightly, not according to the true opinion, but according to yours. For who does not know that you are a stranger to his evil if you do not share in his sin by consent? But from this you are compelled to recognize with what great impiety you charge the Christian world with crimes of Africans, either false or certainly unknown, when you do not wish to be charged with what you know of another, because you cannot persuade of it those from whose fellowship you do not wish to depart. Thus, so as not to desert those you think good, you are compelled to bear those you know to be bad; and therefore the truth convicts as wicked all who, because of others' crimes, whether true or false, yet unknown to the rest and not about to harm themselves, broke the unity of so many nations and deserted the good. So that you could not in any way excuse this so great a wickedness of the party of Donatus, the case of the Maximianensians was provided for you, in which, as in a mirror, you may see your depravity and, if you are willing, correct it; but if you are not willing (I do not wish to say anything more severe, since I know you have a heart). For what will you say against these things?

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Summary: Augustine argues that the Donatists themselves tolerate known sinners among them and so condemn their own reasons for breaking with the world, as the Maximianist case mirrors.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.34 (CSEL 52:532–533; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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4.35CSEL 52:533–535

Bene quia ipse scribis, cum de Maximianensibus damnatis et receptis legisses totum quod inserui litteris meis, ualde te fuisse permotum. credo: prorsus uideo causam quae ualde debuerit permouere. uideamus ergo, tua ista permotio quanam reddita ratione sedata est. statim te dicis a uestris episcopis diligentius inquisisse atque ipsis docentibus et decretum concilii et sententiam in eos qui damnati sunt dictam et rei totius ordinem cognouisse. deinde etiam me credens adhuc ignorare quid gestum sit atque admonens, ut quid habeat ueritas discerem, narrasti plane non quid ueritas habeat, sed quid incautis et neglegentibus uestri pro ueritate subponant. dicis enim, cum quam plurimos episcopos error sibi Maximiani sociare contenderet, contracto a uestris concilio in eos omnes, qui in eius schismate perstitissent, prolatam esse sententiam, quam me quoque legisse commemoras. quae cum sententia consensu omnium firmaretur, placuisse tamen decreto concilii dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. sic esse factum, ut non solum duo illi quos memoro, sed etiam multi alii purgati atque innocentes ecclesiae redderentur, quorum ideo putas baptisma non debuisse rescindi, quia intra diem praestitutum restituti peremptoria sententia non tenerentur nec, cum baptizarent, fuissent ab ecclesia separati, necdum scilicet transacti temporis meta definita disiuncti. hic ego in ea ipsa falsitate narrationis tuae, quandoquidem non solum sententias, uerum et ipsa uerba tua posui, miror ingenium tuum, miror animum ingenio reluctantem. numquam uspiam sic apparuit, quantum ualeat praeiudicium praesumptionis humanae uel ad non intuendam manifestissimam ueritatem uel ad adfirmandam inpudentissimam falsitatem. itane te tam aperte repugnantia posuisse non sentis, ut uix credibile sit, quod unus homo dicere utraque potuerit? tu nempe dicis in eos omnes, qui in Maximiani schismate perstitissent, prolatam esse sententiam et placuisse dilationem temporis dari, intra quod si qui corrigi uoluisset innocens haberetur. quomodo ergo tu ipse item dicis non eos extra ecclesiam baptizasse, antequam se ab illo schismate correxissent? sic, quando cum Maximiano erant, non erant extra ecclesiam? aduertisne quid dicas, inuenis qua exeas, quo confugias. ubi te abscondas?

It is well that you yourself write that, when you had read all I inserted in my letter about the Maximianensians condemned and received back, you were greatly moved. I believe it: I see plainly a case that ought greatly to move. Let us see, then, by what reason given this disturbance of yours was calmed. You say that at once you inquired more carefully of your bishops, and that, with them teaching you, you learned both the decree of the council and the sentence pronounced against those who were condemned, and the order of the whole affair. Then, believing that I still did not know what had been done, and admonishing me to learn what the truth was, you related plainly, not what the truth is, but what your people substitute for the truth for the incautious and careless. For you say that, when the error of Maximian strove to join as many bishops as possible to itself, a council was gathered by your people and a sentence pronounced against all who had persisted in his schism, which you mention that I too have read; that, when this sentence was confirmed by the consent of all, it was nevertheless decided by the council's decree to grant an extension of time, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be held innocent; that so it came about that not only those two whom I mention but also many others were restored to the church cleared and innocent; whose baptism you think ought not to have been cancelled for this reason, that, restored within the appointed day, they were not held by the final sentence, nor, when they baptized, had they been separated from the church, not yet cut off, that is, by the fixed limit of the time that had passed. Here, in that very falsehood of your account (since I have set down not only your thoughts but your very words), I wonder at your intelligence, I wonder at your mind fighting against your intelligence. Never anywhere has it appeared so clearly how much the prejudice of human presumption can do, either to keep one from seeing the most manifest truth or to make one affirm the most shameless falsehood. Do you really not perceive that you have set down things so plainly contradictory that it is scarcely credible one man could say both? You say, of course, that a sentence was pronounced against all who had persisted in Maximian's schism, and that it was decided to grant an extension of time, within which, if anyone wished to be corrected, he would be held innocent. How then do you yourself likewise say that they did not baptize outside the church before they had corrected themselves from that schism? So, when they were with Maximian, they were not outside the church? Do you notice what you are saying? Do you find a way out, where to flee, where to hide yourself?

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Summary: Augustine shows that Cresconius's own account says the Maximianists were sentenced as schismatics yet claims they never left the church.

Topics: Heresy, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, C. Cresc. 4.35 (CSEL 52:533–535; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-contra-cresconium/4-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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