Questions on the Octateuch preface–1.17
Greek text: PG 80.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Prologue
0PG 80 80:75
Καὶ ἄλλοι μὲν φιλομαθεῖς ἄνδρες ἐπηγγείλαντο διαλῦσαι τῆς θείας Γραφῆς τὰ δοκοῦντα εἶναι ζητήματα· καὶ τῶν μὲν ἀναπτύξαι τὸν νοῦν· τῶν δὲ τὰς αἰτίας δηλῶσαι· καὶ ἁπαξαπλῶς ἀποφῆναι σαφῆ τὰ τοῖς πολλοῖς οὐ τοιαῦτα φαινόμενα. Σὺ δὲ διαφερόντως, φίλτατε παίδων Ὑπάτιε, τοῦτό με πρᾶξαι παρώτρυνας· πολλοῖς ὠφέλιμον ἔσεσθαι καὶ τόδε τὸ σύγγραμμα λίαν ἰσχυρισάμενος. Οὗ δὴ ἕνεκα, καίτοι τοῦ σώματος οὐκ εὖ μοι διακειμένου, τόνδε προειλόμην τὸν πόνον· οὐκ ἐμαυτῷ γε θαῤῥῶν, ἀλλὰ τῷ ταῦθ' οὕτω συγγραφῆναι προστεταχότι. Αὐτοῦ γάρ ἐστιν ἐπιδεῖξαι τὴν ἐν τῷ γράμματι κεκρυμμένην διάνοιαν. Αὐτὸς γὰρ κὰν τοῖς ἱεροῖς Εὐαγγελίοις, καὶ παραβολικῶς τὴν διδασκαλίαν προσέφερε· καὶ τῶν αἰνιγματωδῶς εἰρημένων ἐποιεῖτο τὴν ἑρμηνείαν. Παρ' αὐτοῦ τοίνυν τῆς νοερᾶς ἀκτῖνος ἀντιβολήσας τυχεῖν, τῶν τοῦ παναγίου Πνεύματος ἀδύτων κατατολμῆσαι πειράσομαι. Ἰστέον δὲ πρὸ τῶν ἄλλων ἁπάντων, ὡς οὐχ ἅπαντες σύμφωνον ἔχουσι τῆς ἐρωτήσεως τὸν σκοπόν. ᾿Αλλ' οἱ μὲν δυσσεβῶς ἐρωτῶσι, διελέγχειν οἰόμενοι τὴν θείαν Γραφήν νῦν μὲν, ὡς οὐκ ὀρθὰ παιδεύουσαν· νῦν δὲ, ὡς ἐναντία διδάσκουσαν. Οἱ δὲ φιλομαθῶς ζητοῦσι, καὶ ποθοῦσιν εὑρεῖν τὸ ζητούμενον. Κάκείνων τοίνυν ἐμφράξομεν, σὺν Θεῷ φάναι, τὰ βλάσφημα στόματα, τῆς θείας ἐπιδεικνύντες Γραφῆς καὶ τὴν συμφωνίαν, καὶ τὴν ἀρίστην διδασκαλίαν· καὶ τούτοις ὡς οἷόν τε τῶν ἐπαπορουμένων τὴν λύσιν προσοίσομεν. Ἀρχὴν δὲ τούτων ποιήσομαι τῆς κτίσεως τὴν ἀρχήν. Αὕτη γὰρ ἀρχὴ καὶ προοίμιον τῆς θεοπνεύστου Γραφῆς.
Kai alloi men philomatheis andres epēngeilanto dialysai tēs theias Graphēs ta dokounta einai zētēmata; kai tōn men anaptyxai ton noun; tōn de tas aitias dēlōsai; kai hapaxaplōs apophēnai saphē ta tois pollois ou toiauta phainomena. Sy de diapherontōs, philtate paidōn Hypatie, touto me praxai parōtrynas; pollois ōphelimon esesthai kai tode to syngramma lian ischyrisamenos. Hou dē heneka, kaitoi tou sōmatos ouk eu moi diakeimenou, tonde proeilomēn ton ponon; ouk emautǭ ge tharrhōn, alla tǭ tauth' houtō syngraphēnai prostetachoti. Autou gar estin epideixai tēn en tǭ grammati kekrymmenēn dianoian. Autos gar kan tois hierois Euangeliois, kai parabolikōs tēn didaskalian prosephere; kai tōn ainigmatōdōs eirēmenōn epoieito tēn hermēneian. Par' autou toinyn tēs noeras aktinos antibolēsas tychein, tōn tou panagiou Pneumatos adytōn katatolmēsai peirasomai. Isteon de pro tōn allōn hapantōn, hōs ouch hapantes symphōnon echousi tēs erōtēseōs ton skopon. ᾿All' hoi men dyssebōs erōtōsi, dielenchein oiomenoi tēn theian Graphēn nyn men, hōs ouk ortha paideuousan; nyn de, hōs enantia didaskousan. Hoi de philomathōs zētousi, kai pothousin heurein to zētoumenon. Kakeinōn toinyn emphraxomen, syn Theǭ phanai, ta blasphēma stomata, tēs theias epideiknyntes Graphēs kai tēn symphōnian, kai tēn aristēn didaskalian; kai toutois hōs hoion te tōn epaporoumenōn tēn lysin prosoisomen. Archēn de toutōn poiēsomai tēs ktiseōs tēn archēn. Hautē gar archē kai prooimion tēs theopneustou Graphēs.
Other studious men too have undertaken to resolve what seem to be problems in the divine Scripture: to unfold the meaning of some, to show the reasons for others, and, in a word, to make plain what does not appear plain to most people. But you in particular, Hypatius, dearest of sons, have urged me to do this, insisting strongly that this treatise too would be of benefit to many. For this reason, although my body is not in good health, I have taken on this labor, trusting not in myself but in him who commanded that these things be written as they are. For it belongs to him to show the meaning hidden in the letter. He himself, in the holy Gospels, both offered his teaching in parables and gave the interpretation of what was said in riddles. Having begged, then, to receive from him the ray of understanding, I shall try to venture into the inner sanctuary of the all-holy Spirit. Before all else it must be known that not all who ask questions have the same aim. Some ask impiously, thinking to refute the divine Scripture, now as teaching what is not right, now as teaching contradictory things. Others inquire out of love of learning and long to find what they are seeking. With God's help, then, we shall stop the blasphemous mouths of the former, showing both the harmony of the divine Scripture and its excellent teaching; and to the latter we shall offer, as far as we can, the solution of their difficulties. I shall make the beginning of creation the beginning of these questions; for it is the beginning and prologue of the inspired Scripture.
Matt 13:34 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret dedicates the work to Hypatius and explains that he will answer both hostile and sincere questions about Scripture, beginning with creation.
- Hypatius is otherwise unknown. A running head of the edition (“of the blessed Theodoret, on the difficulties of the divine …”) had entered the text and was removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (running head of the edition leaked into the text): ἑρμηνείαν. μακαρίου Θεοδωρήτου εἰς τὰ ἄπορα τῆς θείας → ἑρμηνείαν. .
Topics: Interpreting Scripture, Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. pref. (PG 80 80:75; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/0). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
Prologue 1
1.1PG 80 80:77
Τί δή ποτε μὴ προτέταχε τῆς τῶν ὅλων δημιουργίας θεολογίαν ὁ συγγραφεύς; Μετρεῖν εἴωθε τοῖς παιδευομένοις ἡ θεία Γραφὴ τὰ μαθήματα· καὶ τοῖς μὲν τελείοις προσφέρειν τὰ τέλεια, τοῖς ἀτελέσι δὲ τὰ στοιχειώδη, καὶ τῇ σφῶν δυνάμει συμβαίνοντα. Ἐπειδὴ τοίνυν Αἰγύπτιοι τὴν ὀρωμένην κτίσιν ἐθεοποιοῦντο, τούτοις δὲ συνδιἀγων ἐπὶ πλεῖστον ὁ Ἰσραὴλ ταύτης τῆς δυσσεβείας μετέλαχεν, ἀναγκαίως τὰ περὶ τῆς κτίσεως αὐτοῖς προσφέρει μαθήματα, καὶ διδάσκει διαῤῥήδην, ὅτι καὶ ἀρχὴν ἔσχε τοῦ εἶναι, καὶ ὅτι ποιητὴν ἔχει τὸν τῶν ὅλων Θεόν. Οὐ μὴν οὐδὲ τὸν τῆς θεολογίας παραλέλοιπε λόγον. Τὸ γὰρ φάναι, τὸν οὐρανὸν, καὶ τὴν γῆν, καὶ τὰ ἄλλα τῆς κτίσεως μόρια γεγονέναι, καὶ δεῖξαι τούτων δημιουργὸν τὸν τῶν ὅλων Θεὸν, ἀρκοῦσαν τοῖς τότε θεολογίαν ἐπήνεγκε. Τῶν μὲν γὰρ ἐδήλωσε τὴν ἀρχήν· τοῦ δὲ εὑρεῖν οὐκ ἴσχυσε τὴν ἀρχήν. Καὶ ἀΐδιον τοίνυν ἐγνωκὼς τὸν Θεὸν, καὶ ποιητὴν τοῦ παντὸς ὀνομάσας, καὶ ἀγαθὸν ποιητὴν, τῷ φυσιολογικῷ τὸ θεολογικὸν μάλα σοφῶς· συνήρμοσεν. ῎Αλλως δὲ προμεμαθήκεσαν οἱ ταῦτα διδασκόμενοι τοῦ Θεοῦ τὸ ἀἴδιον. Ἀποσταλεὶς γὰρ εἰς Αἴγυπτον παρὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῶν ὅλων ὁ θεσπέσιος Μωϋσῆς, προσετάχθη τοῖς ὁμοφύλοις εἰπεῖν, Ὁ ὢν ἀπέσταλκέ με πρὸς ὑμᾶς. Τὸ δὲ «Ὁ ὢν, τοῦ ἀϊδίου δηλωτικόν ἐστι. Δῆλον δὲ τοῖς φιλομαθέσιν, ὡς ἐκεῖνα πρὸ τούτων ἐῤῥέθη. Ἐκείνην γὰρ αὐτοῖς τὴν διδασκαλίαν ἔτι τὴν Αἴγυπτον οἰκοῦσι προσήνεγκε· ταῦτα δὲ ἐν τῇ ἐρήμῳ συνέγραφε.
Ti dē pote mē protetache tēs tōn holōn dēmiourgias theologian ho syngrapheus? Metrein eiōthe tois paideuomenois hē theia Graphē ta mathēmata; kai tois men teleiois prospherein ta teleia, tois atelesi de ta stoicheiōdē, kai tę̄ sphōn dynamei symbainonta. Epeidē toinyn Aigyptioi tēn orōmenēn ktisin etheopoiounto, toutois de syndiagōn epi pleiston ho Israēl tautēs tēs dyssebeias metelachen, anankaiōs ta peri tēs ktiseōs autois prospherei mathēmata, kai didaskei diarrhēdēn, hoti kai archēn esche tou einai, kai hoti poiētēn echei ton tōn holōn Theon. Ou mēn oude ton tēs theologias paraleloipe logon. To gar phanai, ton ouranon, kai tēn gēn, kai ta alla tēs ktiseōs moria gegonenai, kai deixai toutōn dēmiourgon ton tōn holōn Theon, arkousan tois tote theologian epēnenke. Tōn men gar edēlōse tēn archēn; tou de heurein ouk ischyse tēn archēn. Kai aïdion toinyn egnōkōs ton Theon, kai poiētēn tou pantos onomasas, kai agathon poiētēn, tǭ physiologikǭ to theologikon mala sophōs; synērmosen. ᾿Allōs de promemathēkesan hoi tauta didaskomenoi tou Theou to aidion. Apostaleis gar eis Aigypton para tou Theou tōn holōn ho thespesios Mōÿsēs, prosetachthē tois homophylois eipein, Ho ōn apestalke me pros hymas. To de «Ho ōn, tou aïdiou dēlōtikon esti. Dēlon de tois philomathesin, hōs ekeina pro toutōn errhethē. Ekeinēn gar autois tēn didaskalian eti tēn Aigypton oikousi prosēnenke; tauta de en tę̄ erēmǭ synegraphe.
Why did the writer not place teaching about God before the creation of the universe? The divine Scripture usually measures its lessons to those being taught: to the perfect it offers what is perfect, to the imperfect what is elementary and suited to their capacity. Since, then, the Egyptians deified the visible creation, and Israel, after living among them for a very long time, had come to share in this impiety, he necessarily offers them lessons about creation, and teaches expressly both that it had a beginning of its existence and that it has the God of the universe as its maker. Yet he has not left out the teaching about God either. For by saying that heaven and earth and the other parts of creation came into being, and by showing that their creator is the God of the universe, he provided a teaching about God sufficient for the people of that time. He showed the beginning of the creatures, but could find no beginning of God. Knowing God, then, to be eternal, and naming him maker of the universe, and a good maker, he very wisely joined teaching about God to teaching about nature. Besides, those who were being taught these things had already learned that God is eternal. For when the inspired Moses was sent to Egypt by the God of the universe, he was commanded to say to his kinsmen, “He Who Is has sent me to you.” And “He Who Is” signifies the eternal. It is clear to the studious that those words were spoken before these; for he gave them that teaching while they still lived in Egypt, but wrote these things in the desert.
Exod 3:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret explains that Genesis begins with creation rather than with teaching about God because Israel had absorbed the Egyptian worship of creation, though Moses' words still imply God's eternity.
- Quotation: Exod 3:14 (LXX “He Who Is”). θεολογία is rendered “teaching about God.”
Topics: Creation, God, Paganism
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.1 (PG 80 80:77; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.2PG 80 80:77
Τι δή ποτε τῆς τῶν ἀγγέλων οὐκ ἐμνήσθη δημιουργίας; Οὐδὲν στεῤῥὸν εἶχον οὐδὲ βέβαιον οἱ νομοθετούμενοι· αὐτίκα γοῦν μετὰ τὰ πολλὰ καὶ ἄφραστα θαύματα, τὴν εἰκόνα τοῦ μόσχου Θεὸν ἀνηγόρευσαν οἱ δὲ τὰ τῶν κτηνῶν ἰνδάλματα ῥᾳδίως οὕτως θεοποιήσαντες, τί οὐκ ἂν ἔδρασαν, εἰ τῶν ἀοράτων φύσεων τὴν γνῶσιν ἐδέξαντο; Τούτου χάριν μέχρι τῆς τοῦ ᾿Ἀβραὰμ τελειότητος, οὐδενὶ τῶν πάλαι ἀνθρώ πων δι' ἀγγέλου ὁ τῶν ὅλων διελέχθη Θεός· ἐπὶ δὲ τῆς ᾿Αγαρ πρῶτον ἀγγέλου μνήμην ὁ θεσπέσιος ἐποιήσατο Μωϋσῆς· καὶ μάλα εἰκότως τύπος γὰρ ἡ Ἄγαρ τῆς παλαιᾶς διαθήκης κατὰ τὸν θεῖον Ἀποστολον. Τὸ γὰρ ῎Αγαρ, φησὶ, Σινᾶ ὄρος ἐστὶν ἐν τῇ ᾿Αραβίᾳ, συστοιχεῖ δὲ τῇ νῦν Ἱερουσαλήμ. Ἐπειδὴ τοίνυν δι' ἀγγέλων ὁ νόμος ἐδόθη Διαταγεὶς γὰρ, φησὶ, δι᾽ ἀγγέλων ἐν χειρὶ μεσίτου καὶ πάλιν, Εἰ ὁ δι' ἀγγέλων λαληθεὶς λόγος ἐγένετο βέβαιος·, καὶ μάλα προσφόρως ὁ τῶν ὅλων Θεὸς δι' ἀγγέλου καὶ τῆς δουλείας ἀνέμνησε, καὶ τὰ περὶ τοῦ τεχθησομένου παιδὸς προηγόρευσεν. Ὅτι δὲ κτιστὴν ἔχουσι φύσιν καὶ ἄγγελοι καὶ ἀρχάγγελοι, καὶ εἴ τι ἕτερόν ἐστιν ἀσώματον, πλὴν τῆς ἁγίας Τριάδος, ἡ θεία σαφῶς ἡμᾶς διδάσκει Γραφή. Ὑμνεῖν γὰρ καὶ τούτοις Δαβὶδ παρακελεύεται ὁ προφήτης Αἰνεῖτε γὰρ αὐτὸν, φησὶ, πάντες οἱ ἄγγελοι αὐτοῦ· αἰνεῖτε αὐτὸν πᾶσαι αἱ δυνάμεις αὐ· τοῦ. Καὶ τὴν αἰτίαν διδάσκων ἐπήγαγεν «Ὅτι αὐτὸς εἶπε, καὶ ἐγενήθησαν αὐτὸς ἐνετείλατο, καὶ ἐκτίσθησαν.» Καὶ πάλιν ἐν ἑτέρῳ ψαλμῷ, Ὁ ποιῶν τοὺς ἀγγέλους αὐτοῦ πνεύματα, καὶ τοὺς λειτουρ γοὺς αὐτοῦ πυρὸς φλόγα. Καὶ οἱ τρεῖς μακάριοι παῖδες ἐν τῇ καμίνῳ τὸν θεῖον ὕμνον ὑφαίνοντες, καὶ τὸ πανάριστον ἐκεῖνο καὶ λίαν ἁρμόδιον εἰρηκότες προοίμιον· Εὐλογεῖτε πάντα τὰ ἔργα Κυρίοι τὸν Κύριον, Εὐθὺς ἐπήγαγον, Εὐλογεῖτε ἄγγελοι Κυρίου τὸν Κύριον, πᾶσαι αἱ δυνάμεις Κυρίου τὸν Κύριον. ᾿Αλλὰ γὰρ παρέλκον οἷμαι περὶ τούτων μακρηγορεῖν· πᾶσα γὰρ ἡ θεόπνευστος Γραφὴ τῆς δε τῆς διδασκαλίας ἀνάπλεως.
Ti dē pote tēs tōn angelōn ouk emnēsthē dēmiourgias? Ouden sterrhon eichon oude bebaion hoi nomothetoumenoi; autika goun meta ta polla kai aphrasta thaumata, tēn eikona tou moschou Theon anēgoreusan hoi de ta tōn ktēnōn indalmata rhądiōs houtōs theopoiēsantes, ti ouk an edrasan, ei tōn aoratōn physeōn tēn gnōsin edexanto? Toutou charin mechri tēs tou ᾿Abraam teleiotētos, oudeni tōn palai anthrō pōn di' angelou ho tōn holōn dielechthē Theos; epi de tēs ᾿Agar prōton angelou mnēmēn ho thespesios epoiēsato Mōÿsēs; kai mala eikotōs typos gar hē Agar tēs palaias diathēkēs kata ton theion Apostolon. To gar ᾿Agar, phēsi, Sina oros estin en tę̄ ᾿Arabią, systoichei de tę̄ nyn Hierousalēm. Epeidē toinyn di' angelōn ho nomos edothē Diatageis gar, phēsi, di᾽ angelōn en cheiri mesitou kai palin, Ei ho di' angelōn lalētheis logos egeneto bebaios;, kai mala prosphorōs ho tōn holōn Theos di' angelou kai tēs douleias anemnēse, kai ta peri tou techthēsomenou paidos proēgoreusen. Hoti de ktistēn echousi physin kai angeloi kai archangeloi, kai ei ti heteron estin asōmaton, plēn tēs hagias Triados, hē theia saphōs hēmas didaskei Graphē. Hymnein gar kai toutois Dabid parakeleuetai ho prophētēs Aineite gar auton, phēsi, pantes hoi angeloi autou; aineite auton pasai hai dynameis au; tou. Kai tēn aitian didaskōn epēgagen «Hoti autos eipe, kai egenēthēsan autos eneteilato, kai ektisthēsan.» Kai palin en heterǭ psalmǭ, Ho poiōn tous angelous autou pneumata, kai tous leitour gous autou pyros phloga. Kai hoi treis makarioi paides en tę̄ kaminǭ ton theion hymnon hyphainontes, kai to panariston ekeino kai lian harmodion eirēkotes prooimion; Eulogeite panta ta erga Kyrioi ton Kyrion, Euthys epēgagon, Eulogeite angeloi Kyriou ton Kyrion, pasai hai dynameis Kyriou ton Kyrion. ᾿Alla gar parelkon hoimai peri toutōn makrēgorein; pasa gar hē theopneustos Graphē tēs de tēs didaskalias anapleōs.
Why did he not mention the creation of the angels? Those who received the Law had nothing firm or steady about them. At any rate, straight after the many indescribable miracles they proclaimed the image of the calf to be God. Those who so easily deified the likenesses of cattle, what would they not have done if they had received knowledge of the invisible natures? For this reason, until the perfection of Abraham, the God of the universe spoke to none of the people of old through an angel; and it was in the case of Hagar that the inspired Moses first mentioned an angel, and very fittingly, for Hagar is a type of the old covenant, according to the divine Apostle: “For Hagar,” he says, “is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to the present Jerusalem.” Since, then, the Law was given through angels (“ordained,” he says, “through angels by the hand of a mediator,” and again, “If the word spoken through angels proved firm”), very fittingly the God of the universe, through an angel, both reminded her of her servitude and foretold what concerned the child who was to be born. That angels and archangels, and anything else that is incorporeal, except the Holy Trinity, have a created nature, the divine Scripture clearly teaches us. For the prophet David urges these too to sing hymns: “Praise him,” he says, “all his angels; praise him, all his powers.” And, teaching the reason, he added: “For he spoke, and they came into being; he commanded, and they were created.” And again in another psalm: “He who makes his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.” And the three blessed young men, weaving the divine hymn in the furnace, after saying that most excellent and very fitting opening, “Bless the Lord, all you works of the Lord,” added at once, “Bless the Lord, you angels of the Lord, all you powers of the Lord.” But I think it superfluous to speak at length about this; the whole inspired Scripture is full of this teaching.
Exod 32:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 16:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 4:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 104:4 (103:4 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret argues that Moses passed over the creation of angels because Israel, prone to idolatry, would have worshiped them, and shows from Scripture that angels are created.
- Quotations: Gal 4:25; Gal 3:19; Heb 2:2; Ps 148:2, 5; Ps 104:4 (LXX 103:4); the Song of the Three Young Men (Dan 3:57–58 LXX). Allusions: Exod 32:4 (the calf); Gen 16:7–12 (Hagar).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (word split by a line break and stray marks): εἰρηκό· ( τες → εἰρηκότες.
Extrabiblical texts: Pr Azar 35-36 (Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Young Men [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Angels, Creation, Idolatry
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.2 (PG 80 80:77; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.3PG 80 80:79
Προϋπάρχουσιν οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς ἄγγελοι, ἢ σὺν αὐτοῖς ἐγένοντο. Περιττὰς μὲν ἐγὼ τὰς τοιαύτας ζητήσεις ὑπείληφα. Τίς γὰρ ὄνησις προσγενήσεται τοῖς ἐγνωκόσι τὸν τῆς τῶν ἀγγέλων δημιουργίας καιρόν; Οἶδα δὲ καὶ τὸν θεῖον ᾿Απόστολον τῷ θαυμασίῳ Τιμοθέῳ παρεγγυῶντα· «Παραγγεῖλαί τισι, μὴ ἑτεροδιδασκαλεῖν, μηδὲ προσέχειν μύθοις καὶ γενεαλογίαις ἀπε· ράντοις. Ἐρῶ δὲ ὅμως ὅπερ συμβαίνειν ὑπείληφα τῷ σκοπῷ τῆς θείας Γραφῆς. Απερίγραφον μόνην ἐδιδάχθημεν εἶναι τὴν θείαν φυσιν· ἄτε δὴ ἄκτιστον οὖσαν, καὶ ἄναρχον, καὶ ἀἴδιον· τὰ δὲ γε ἀρξάμενα τοῦ εἶναι περιγεγραμμένον ἔχει δηλονότι τὸ εἶναι. Οὐκοῦν καὶ ἀσώματον λέγοντες εἶναι τῶν ἀγγέλων τὴν φύσιν, περιγεγράφθαι φαμὲν αὐτῶν τὴν ὑπόστασιν. Πῶς γὰρ ἄν τις νοήσαι χιλίας χιλιάδας κal μυρίας μυριάδας, κατὰ τὸν θεῖον Δανιήλ, μὴ ἕκαστον λογιζόμενος ἐν ἰδίᾳ εἶναι περιγραφῇ; ᾿Αλλ᾿ ὅτι μὲν περιγεγραμμένην ἔχουσιν οἱ ἄγγελοι τὴν οὐσίαν, οὐδένα ἀντερεῖν οἶμαι. Καὶ γὰρ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἕκaστον ὑφ᾽ ἑνὸς ἔφη τετάχθαι κηδεμονίαν ὁ Δεσπότης Χριστός «Ὁρᾶτε γὰρ, φησὶ, μὴ καταφρονήσητε ἑνὸς τῶν ἐλαχίστων τῶν πιστευόντων εἰς ἐμέ ὅτι οἱ ἄγγελοι αὐτῶν διαπαντὸς τὸ πρόσωπον ὁρῶσι τοῦ Πατρός μου τοῦ ἐν οὐρανοῖς.» Καὶ ἑκάστῳ δὲ ἔθνει ἄγγε-, λον ἐφεστάναι φησὶν ἡ θεία Γραφή. Ὁ γὰρ τῷ προφήτῃ Δανιήλ συνδιαλεγόμενος ἄγγελος, καὶ ἄρχοντα Περσῶν εἴρηκε, καὶ ἄρχοντα Ἑλλήνων, καὶ Μιχαὴλ ἄρχοντα τῶν Ἰουδαίων. Καὶ Μωσῆς δὲ ὁ μέγας ἐν τῇ ᾠδῇ φησιν Ὅτε διεμέριζεν ὁ Ὕψιστος ἔθνη, ὡς διέσπειρεν υἱοὺς ᾿Αδάμ, ἔστησεν ὅρια ἐθνῶν κατὰ ἀριθμὸν ἀγγέλων Θεοῦ. Εἰ τοίνυν ὁ μὲν τούτων, ὁ δὲ ἐκείνων ἄρχειν ὁ ἐτάχθη, ἕκαστος δὲ τῶν ἀνθρώπων ὑπὸ τὴν ἑνὸς φροντίδα τελεῖ, εὔδηλον ὡς περιγεγραμμένην ἔχουσι τὴν οὐσίαν. Εἰ δὲ τοῦτο γοῦν ἀληθὲς, ὥσπερ καὶ ἀληθὲς", τόπου ἄρα προσδέονται. Μόνον γὰρ τὸ θεῖον, ὡς ἀπερίγραφον, οὐκ ἐν τόπῳ. Εἰ δὲ τὸ περιγεγραμμένον ἐν τόπῳ, πῶς οἷόν τε προϋπάρχειν οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς τοὺς ἀγγέλους; Οὐ γὰρ ὄντος τοῦ φέροντος, πῶς ἔνεστι τὸ φερόμενον εἶναι;
Proÿparchousin ouranou kai gēs angeloi, ē syn autois egenonto. Perittas men egō tas toiautas zētēseis hypeilēpha. Tis gar onēsis prosgenēsetai tois egnōkosi ton tēs tōn angelōn dēmiourgias kairon? Oida de kai ton theion ᾿Apostolon tǭ thaumasiǭ Timotheǭ parengyōnta; «Parangeilai tisi, mē heterodidaskalein, mēde prosechein mythois kai genealogiais ape; rantois. Erō de homōs hoper symbainein hypeilēpha tǭ skopǭ tēs theias Graphēs. Aperigraphon monēn edidachthēmen einai tēn theian physin; ate dē aktiston ousan, kai anarchon, kai aidion; ta de ge arxamena tou einai perigegrammenon echei dēlonoti to einai. Oukoun kai asōmaton legontes einai tōn angelōn tēn physin, perigegraphthai phamen autōn tēn hypostasin. Pōs gar an tis noēsai chilias chiliadas kal myrias myriadas, kata ton theion Daniēl, mē hekaston logizomenos en idią einai perigraphę̄? ᾿All᾿ hoti men perigegrammenēn echousin hoi angeloi tēn ousian, oudena anterein oimai. Kai gar tōn anthrōpōn hekaston hyph᾽ henos ephē tetachthai kēdemonian ho Despotēs Christos «Horate gar, phēsi, mē kataphronēsēte henos tōn elachistōn tōn pisteuontōn eis eme hoti hoi angeloi autōn diapantos to prosōpon horōsi tou Patros mou tou en ouranois.» Kai hekastǭ de ethnei ange-, lon ephestanai phēsin hē theia Graphē. Ho gar tǭ prophētę̄ Daniēl syndialegomenos angelos, kai archonta Persōn eirēke, kai archonta Hellēnōn, kai Michaēl archonta tōn Ioudaiōn. Kai Mōsēs de ho megas en tę̄ ǭdę̄ phēsin Hote diemerizen ho Hypsistos ethnē, hōs diespeiren huious ᾿Adam, estēsen horia ethnōn kata arithmon angelōn Theou. Ei toinyn ho men toutōn, ho de ekeinōn archein ho etachthē, hekastos de tōn anthrōpōn hypo tēn henos phrontida telei, eudēlon hōs perigegrammenēn echousi tēn ousian. Ei de touto goun alēthes, hōsper kai alēthes", topou ara prosdeontai. Monon gar to theion, hōs aperigraphon, ouk en topǭ. Ei de to perigegrammenon en topǭ, pōs hoion te proÿparchein ouranou kai gēs tous angelous? Ou gar ontos tou pherontos, pōs enesti to pheromenon einai?
Do the angels exist before heaven and earth, or did they come into being with them? I for my part have taken such inquiries to be superfluous. What profit will come to those who know the time when the angels were created? I know, too, that the divine Apostle charges the admirable Timothy “to instruct certain people not to teach a different doctrine, nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies.” Yet I will say what I have taken to agree with the aim of the divine Scripture. We have been taught that the divine nature alone is uncircumscribed, inasmuch as it is uncreated, without beginning, and eternal; but things that began to exist plainly have a circumscribed existence. So when we say that the nature of angels is incorporeal, we say that their being is circumscribed. For how could anyone conceive of “thousands of thousands and myriads of myriads,” as the divine Daniel says, without reckoning each to be within its own bounds? But that the angels have a circumscribed substance no one, I think, will deny. For Christ the Master said that each human being is assigned to the care of one: “See,” he says, “that you do not despise one of the least of those who believe in me; for their angels always see the face of my Father in heaven.” And the divine Scripture says that an angel is set over each nation. For the angel conversing with the prophet Daniel spoke of a prince of the Persians, and a prince of the Greeks, and Michael, prince of the Jews. And the great Moses says in his song: “When the Most High divided the nations, when he scattered the sons of Adam, he set the boundaries of the nations according to the number of the angels of God.” If, then, one was appointed to rule these and another those, and each human being is under the care of one, it is plain that they have a circumscribed substance. And if this is true, as indeed it is, they need a place. For only the divine, being uncircumscribed, is not in a place. But if what is circumscribed is in a place, how could the angels exist before heaven and earth? If what bears them did not exist, how could what is borne exist?
1 Tim 1:3–4 (quotation, high confidence) · Dan 7:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 18:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 18:6 (allusion, medium confidence) · Dan 10:13 (allusion, high confidence) · Dan 10:20–21 (allusion, high confidence) · Deut 32:8 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret argues that angels, being created and circumscribed, need a place and so cannot have existed before heaven and earth.
- Quotations: 1 Tim 1:3–4; Dan 7:10; Matt 18:10 (combined with the wording of 18:6); Deut 32:8 (LXX “angels of God”). Allusion: Dan 10:13, 20–21. A footnote marker and a stray letter in the scan were removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (footnote marker leaked into the text; stray letter): Παραγγεῖλαί (8-9) τισι → Παραγγεῖλαί τισι; ὑπείληφα ῃ τῷ → ὑπείληφα τῷ.
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.3 (PG 80 80:79; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.4PG 80 80:81
Ἀλλὰ, φασί τινες, χρῆναι λέγειν προϋπάρχειν οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς τοὺς ἀγγέλους. ᾿Αγγέλων γὰρ, φασὶν, οὐκ ὄντων πῶς ὁ τῶν ὅλων ὑμνεῖτο Θεός; Ἀλλ᾿ οἱ ταῦτα λέγοντες, ἀγνοοῦσιν ὡς καὶ ἀνάρχους αὐτοὺς καὶ ἀϊδίους οὗτος ὁ λόγος ποιεῖ. Εἰ γὰρ ἐδεῖτο τῶν ὑμνούντων ὁ τῶν ὅλων Θεὸς, ἀεὶ δὲ τούτους εἶχεν ὑμνοῦντας, συναΐδιοι ἄρα οἱ ἄγγελοι τῷ τῶν ὅλων Θεῷ. Εἰ δὲ οὐκ ἀεὶ, ἀλλ' ὅτε περ ἠβουλήθη τούτους ἐδημιούργησεν, ἦν ἄρα τις αἰὼν, ἐν ᾧπερ τοὺς ὑμνοῦντας οὐκ εἶχεν ὁ τῶν ὅλων Θεός. ἷόν τε. Οὐκοῦν οὐ δὲῖται τῶν ὑμνούντων ὁ Δεσπότης Θεός ἀνενδεῆ γὰρ ἔχει τὴν φύσιν. Δι' ἀγαθότητα δὲ μόνην καὶ ἀγγέλοις, καὶ ἀρχαγγέλοις, καὶ πάσῃ τῇ κτίσει τὸ εἶναι δεδώρηται· ποίαν δὲ καὶ λειτουργίαν εἶχον πρὸ τῆς κτίσεως ὄντες, οὐδενὸς ὄντος τοῦ τῆς τούτων ὠφελείας προσδεομένου; Ὅτι γὰρ εἰς τὴν τῶν ἀνθρώπων κηδεμονίαν ὑπουργοῦσι τῷ τῶν ὅλων Θεῷ, μάρτυς ὁ θεῖος Απόστολος βοῶν· Οὐχὶ πάντες εἰσὶ λειτουργικὰ πνεύματα εἰς διακονίαν ἀποστελλόμενα διὰ τοὺς μέλλοντας κληρονομεῖν σωτηρίαν; Οὐκοῦν εὔδηλον, ὡς ἡμεῖς μὲν τῆς ἐκείνων ἐπικουρίας δεόμεθα· ὁ δὲ Θεὸς ἥκιστα μέν τινος ἐνδεής ἄβυσσος δὲ ὧν ἀγαθότητος, ἡβουλήθη καὶ τοῖς μηδαμῆ μηδαμῶς οὖσι μεταδοῦναι τοῦ εἶναι. ᾿Αλλὰ γὰρ οἱ προϋπάρχειν οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς τοὺς ἀγγέλους ἰσχυριζόμενοι, ὡς ἰσχυρὸν ἡμῖν καὶ ἅμαχον προβάλλονται ἐκεῖνο τὸ παρὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῶν ὅλων πρὸς τὸν Ἰὼβ εἰρημένον Ὅτε ἐποίουν ἄστρα, ἰῇνεσάν με πάντες ἄγγελοί μου. Καὶ οὐ συνορῶσιν, ὡς τῇ τετάρτῃ ἡμέρᾳ σὺν τῷ ἡλίῳ καὶ τῇ σελήνῃ τὰ ἄστρα παρήγαγεν ὁ τῶν ὅλων Θεός. Εἰκὸς δὲ τοὺς ἀγγέλους σὺν οὐρανῷ δημιουργηθῆναι καὶ γῇ, ἵνα καὶ τὸ φῶς ὁρῶν τες ἐξ οὐδενὸς ὑποκειμένου δημιουργούμενον, καὶ τὸ στερέωμα ἐν μέσῳ τοῦ ὕδατος συμπηγνύμενον, καὶ τὴν ὑγρὰν οὐσίαν χωριζομένην τῆς γῆς, καὶ τὴν γῆν ἅμα τῷ θείῳ λόγῳ παντοδαπῶς διακοσμουμένην βλαστήμασι, καὶ τὰ ἄλλα πάντα πρὸς τὸ θεῖον γινόμενα βούλημα, γνῶσι δι' ὧν ὁρῶσιν, ὅτι καὶ αὐτοὶ κτιστὴν ἔχουσι τὴν φύσιν παρ᾿ αὐτοῦ τὸ εἶναι δεξάμενοι. Καὶ γὰρ ὁ θεῖος Ἀπόστολος τῷ κόσμῳ αὐτοὺς συζεύγνυσι, λέγων, ὅτι Θέατρον ἐγενήθημεν τῷ κόσμῳ καὶ ἀγγέλοις καὶ ἀνθρώποις. Ἐγὼ δὲ ταῦτα οὐκ ἀποφαινόμενος λέγω· τολμηρὸν γὰρ ἀποφαντικῶς οἶμαι λέγειν, περὶ ὧν ἡ θεία διαῤῥή δην οὐ λέγει Γραφή· ἀλλ᾿ ὅπερ τοῖς εὐσεβέσι λογι σμοῖς ἁρμόττειν ὑπέλαβον, εἴρηκα. Ἐκεῖνο μέντοι ἀναγκαῖον εἰδέναι, ὡς πάντα τὰ ὄντα, πλὴν τῆς ἁγίας Τριάδος, κτιστὴν ἔχει τὴν φύσιν. Συνομολογουμένου δὲ τούτου, τῷ τῆς εὐσεβείας οὐ λυμαίνεται λόγῳ, τὸ πρὸ οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς γεγενῆσθαι λέγειν τῶν ἀγγέλων τοὺς δήμους. Τὸ δὲ λογομαχεῖν εἰς οὐδὲν χρήσιμον ἐπὶ καταστροφῇ τῶν ἀκουόντων, ἀπαγορεύει διαῤῥήδην ὁ θεῖος Ἀπόστολος.
Alla, phasi tines, chrēnai legein proÿparchein ouranou kai gēs tous angelous. ᾿Angelōn gar, phasin, ouk ontōn pōs ho tōn holōn hymneito Theos? All᾿ hoi tauta legontes, agnoousin hōs kai anarchous autous kai aïdious houtos ho logos poiei. Ei gar edeito tōn hymnountōn ho tōn holōn Theos, aei de toutous eichen hymnountas, synaïdioi ara hoi angeloi tǭ tōn holōn Theǭ. Ei de ouk aei, all' hote per ēboulēthē toutous edēmiourgēsen, ēn ara tis aiōn, en hǭper tous hymnountas ouk eichen ho tōn holōn Theos. hion te. Oukoun ou deitai tōn hymnountōn ho Despotēs Theos anendeē gar echei tēn physin. Di' agathotēta de monēn kai angelois, kai archangelois, kai pasę̄ tę̄ ktisei to einai dedōrētai; poian de kai leitourgian eichon pro tēs ktiseōs ontes, oudenos ontos tou tēs toutōn ōpheleias prosdeomenou? Hoti gar eis tēn tōn anthrōpōn kēdemonian hypourgousi tǭ tōn holōn Theǭ, martys ho theios Apostolos boōn; Ouchi pantes eisi leitourgika pneumata eis diakonian apostellomena dia tous mellontas klēronomein sōtērian? Oukoun eudēlon, hōs hēmeis men tēs ekeinōn epikourias deometha; ho de Theos hēkista men tinos endeēs abyssos de hōn agathotētos, hēboulēthē kai tois mēdamē mēdamōs ousi metadounai tou einai. ᾿Alla gar hoi proÿparchein ouranou kai gēs tous angelous ischyrizomenoi, hōs ischyron hēmin kai hamachon proballontai ekeino to para tou Theou tōn holōn pros ton Iōb eirēmenon Hote epoioun astra, ię̄nesan me pantes angeloi mou. Kai ou synorōsin, hōs tę̄ tetartę̄ hēmerą syn tǭ hēliǭ kai tę̄ selēnę̄ ta astra parēgagen ho tōn holōn Theos. Eikos de tous angelous syn ouranǭ dēmiourgēthēnai kai gę̄, hina kai to phōs horōn tes ex oudenos hypokeimenou dēmiourgoumenon, kai to stereōma en mesǭ tou hydatos sympēgnymenon, kai tēn hygran ousian chōrizomenēn tēs gēs, kai tēn gēn hama tǭ theiǭ logǭ pantodapōs diakosmoumenēn blastēmasi, kai ta alla panta pros to theion ginomena boulēma, gnōsi di' hōn horōsin, hoti kai autoi ktistēn echousi tēn physin par᾿ autou to einai dexamenoi. Kai gar ho theios Apostolos tǭ kosmǭ autous syzeugnysi, legōn, hoti Theatron egenēthēmen tǭ kosmǭ kai angelois kai anthrōpois. Egō de tauta ouk apophainomenos legō; tolmēron gar apophantikōs oimai legein, peri hōn hē theia diarrhē dēn ou legei Graphē; all᾿ hoper tois eusebesi logi smois harmottein hypelabon, eirēka. Ekeino mentoi anankaion eidenai, hōs panta ta onta, plēn tēs hagias Triados, ktistēn echei tēn physin. Synomologoumenou de toutou, tǭ tēs eusebeias ou lymainetai logǭ, to pro ouranou kai gēs gegenēsthai legein tōn angelōn tous dēmous. To de logomachein eis ouden chrēsimon epi katastrophę̄ tōn akouontōn, apagoreuei diarrhēdēn ho theios Apostolos.
“But,” some say, “one must say that the angels existed before heaven and earth. For if there were no angels,” they say, “how was the God of the universe hymned?” But those who say this do not see that this argument makes them both without beginning and eternal. For if the God of the universe needed those who hymn him, and always had them hymning him, then the angels are coeternal with the God of the universe. But if not always, and he created them when he willed, then there was an age in which the God of the universe did not have those who hymn him. … possible. Therefore God the Master does not need those who hymn him, for he has a nature free of need. Out of goodness alone he has granted being to angels and archangels and the whole creation. And what ministry would they have had, existing before creation, when there was no one in need of their help? For that they serve the God of the universe in caring for human beings, the divine Apostle is witness, crying out: “Are they not all ministering spirits sent out for service, for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?” It is plain, then, that we need their help, while God is in no way in need of anything; but, being an abyss of goodness, he willed to give a share in being even to what in no way existed. But those who insist that the angels existed before heaven and earth put forward against us, as strong and unanswerable, what the God of the universe said to Job: “When I made the stars, all my angels praised me.” And they do not see that the God of the universe brought forth the stars on the fourth day, together with the sun and the moon. It is likely that the angels were created together with heaven and earth, so that, seeing the light created from no underlying matter, and the firmament made solid in the middle of the water, and the watery substance separated from the earth, and the earth adorned with plants of every kind at the divine word, and all the other things coming to be at the divine will, they might know through what they saw that they too have a created nature, having received their being from him. For the divine Apostle too joins them to the world, saying, “We have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.” I say this not as a pronouncement; I think it rash to pronounce on what the divine Scripture does not expressly say; but I have said what I took to fit pious reasoning. This, however, it is necessary to know: everything that exists, except the Holy Trinity, has a created nature. Once this is agreed, it does no harm to the doctrine of piety to say that the hosts of angels came into being before heaven and earth. But wrangling over words, which is useful for nothing and ruins those who listen, the divine Apostle expressly forbids.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Heb 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 38:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:14–19 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Tim 2:14 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret answers the argument that angels must have existed before creation to praise God: God needs no praise, and the angels were probably created with heaven and earth, though the other view does no harm to faith.
- Part of a line is lost in the scan after “who hymn him”; only “… possible” (οἷόν τε) survives, presumably a statement that this cannot be said. Quotations: Heb 1:14; Job 38:7 (LXX “all my angels”); 1 Cor 4:9. Allusions: Gen 1:14–19; 2 Tim 2:14.
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.4 (PG 80 80:81; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.5PG 80 80:83
Εἰ ἦν ἡ γῆ, πῶς ἐγένετο; λέγει γαρ ὁ συγγραφεύς. Ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν. Ἠλίθιον ἄγαν καὶ ἀνόητον τὸ ἐρώτημα. Ὁ γὰρ εἰπὼν Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἐποίησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν, οὐκ ἀΐδιον ἔφη τὴν γῆν, ἀλλὰ μετὰ τὸν οὐρανὸν, ἢ σὺν τῷ οὐρανῷ δεξαμένην τὸ εἶναι. ῎Αλλως τε οὐδὲ ἀπολύτως εἶπεν ὁ συγγραφεύς, Η δὲ γῆ ἦν, ἀλλὰ τὸ ἑξῆς συναρμόσας, ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν ἀόρατος καὶ ἀκατασκεύαστος, τοῦτ᾽ ἔστιν, ἐγένετο μὲν ὑπὸ τοῦ τῶν ὅλων Θεοῦ· ἔτι δὲ ἀόρατος ἦν ἐπικειμένου τοῦ ὕδατος, καὶ ἀκατασκεύαστος, μηδέπω κοσμηθεῖσα τῇ βλάστη, μηδὲ ἀνθήσασα λειμῶνας, καὶ ἄλση καὶ λήῖα.
Ei ēn hē gē, pōs egeneto? legei gar ho syngrapheus. Hē de gē ēn. Ēlithion agan kai anoēton to erōtēma. Ho gar eipōn En archę̄ epoiēsen ho Theos ton ouranon kai tēn gēn, ouk aïdion ephē tēn gēn, alla meta ton ouranon, ē syn tǭ ouranǭ dexamenēn to einai. ᾿Allōs te oude apolytōs eipen ho syngrapheus, Ē de gē ēn, alla to hexēs synarmosas, hē de gē ēn aoratos kai akataskeuastos, tout᾽ estin, egeneto men hypo tou tōn holōn Theou; eti de aoratos ēn epikeimenou tou hydatos, kai akataskeuastos, mēdepō kosmētheisa tę̄ blastē, mēde anthēsasa leimōnas, kai alsē kai lēia.
If the earth already was, how did it come into being? For the writer says, “And the earth was.” The question is very silly and senseless. For he who said, “In the beginning God made heaven and earth,” did not say that the earth was eternal, but that it received its being after heaven, or together with heaven. Besides, the writer did not say absolutely, “And the earth was,” but joined to it what follows, “And the earth was invisible and unformed”; that is, it had come into being by the act of the God of the universe, but it was still invisible, since the water lay upon it, and unformed, since it was not yet adorned with plants, nor blooming with meadows, groves, and crops.
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Theodoret explains that “the earth was” in Gen 1:2 describes the earth's unformed state after its creation, not its eternal existence.
- Quotations: Gen 1:2; Gen 1:1 (LXX “invisible and unformed”).
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.5 (PG 80 80:83; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.6PG 80 80:85
Οὐκ ἐδίδαξεν ἡμᾶς ὁ Μωϋσῆς, ὅτι καὶ τὰ ὕδατα ἐδημιούργησεν ὁ Θεός. Καὶ μὴν εἰρηκώς, Ἡ δὲ γῆ ἦν ἀόρατος καὶ ἀκατασκεύαστος, καὶ σκότος ἐπάνω τῆς ἀβύσσου, ἔδειξε μετὰ τῆς γῆς δημιουργηθεῖσαν τῶν ὑδάτων τὴν φύσιν. Καὶ περὶ τοῦ Σαββάτου δὲ νομοθετῶν ὁ τῶν ὅλων Θεὸς οὕτως ἔφη, Ἕξ ἡμέραις ἐργᾷ, τῇ δὲ ἑβδόμῃ Σάββατον, ἀνάπαυσις Κυρίῳ τῷ θεῷ σου. Ἐν γὰρ ἓξ ἡμέραις ἐποίησε Κύριος ὁ Θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν, καὶ τὴν γῆν, καὶ τὴν θάλασσαν, πάντα τὰ ἐν αὐτοῖς. Ὡς εἶναι δῆλον, ὅτι πᾶν ὁτιοῦν ἐν τούτοις ὂν, ἢ ὁρατὸν, ἢ ἀόρατον, ἢ αἰσθητὸν ἢ νοητὸν, πλὴν τῆς θείας οὐσίας, κτιστὴν ἔχει τὴν φύσιν. Καὶ ὁ θειότατος δὲ Δαβὶδ εἰρηκώς· Μακάριος, οὗ ὁ Θεὸς Ἰακὼβ βοηθὸς αὐτοῦ, ἡ ἐλπὶς αὐτοῦ ἐπὶ Κύριον τὸν Θεὸν αὐτοῦ, τὸν ποιήσαντα τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν· «ἐπήγαγε,, τὴν θάλασσαν, καὶ πάντα τὰ ἐν αὐτοῖς
Ouk edidaxen hēmas ho Mōÿsēs, hoti kai ta hydata edēmiourgēsen ho Theos. Kai mēn eirēkōs, Hē de gē ēn aoratos kai akataskeuastos, kai skotos epanō tēs abyssou, edeixe meta tēs gēs dēmiourgētheisan tōn hydatōn tēn physin. Kai peri tou Sabbatou de nomothetōn ho tōn holōn Theos houtōs ephē, Hex hēmerais ergą, tę̄ de hebdomę̄ Sabbaton, anapausis Kyriǭ tǭ theǭ sou. En gar hex hēmerais epoiēse Kyrios ho Theos ton ouranon, kai tēn gēn, kai tēn thalassan, panta ta en autois. Hōs einai dēlon, hoti pan hotioun en toutois on, ē horaton, ē aoraton, ē aisthēton ē noēton, plēn tēs theias ousias, ktistēn echei tēn physin. Kai ho theiotatos de Dabid eirēkōs; Makarios, hou ho Theos Iakōb boēthos autou, hē elpis autou epi Kyrion ton Theon autou, ton poiēsanta ton ouranon kai tēn gēn; «epēgage,, tēn thalassan, kai panta ta en autois
Did Moses not teach us that God created the waters too? Yes, he did: by saying, “The earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss,” he showed that the nature of the waters was created together with the earth. And the God of the universe, giving the law about the Sabbath, said: “Six days you shall work, but the seventh is a Sabbath, a rest to the Lord your God. For in six days the Lord God made heaven and earth and the sea and all that is in them.” So it is plain that anything at all that is in these, whether visible or invisible, perceptible or intelligible, except the divine substance, has a created nature. And the most divine David, having said, “Blessed is he whose helper is the God of Jacob, his hope is in the Lord his God, who made heaven and earth,” added, “the sea, and all that is in them.”
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 20:9–11 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 146:5–6 (145:5-Ps LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Theodoret shows from Gen 1:2, the Sabbath commandment, and the Psalms that the waters were created by God.
- The question is put as an objection (“Moses did not teach us …”). Quotations: Gen 1:2; Exod 20:9–11 (freely); Ps 146:5–6 (LXX 145:5–6).
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.6 (PG 80 80:85; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
Prologue 1, chapter 6
1.6.1PG 80 80:85
Ποίου τοίνυν φωτὸς ἄμοιρος αἰφνιδίως ὁ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ τόπος εὑρέθη, ὥστε τὸ σκότος ἐπάνω εἶναι τοῦ ὕδατος; Λογιζόμεθα, ὅτι εἴπερ τι ἦν πρὸ τούτου τοῦ αἰσθητοῦ κόσμου, ἐν φωτὶ ἂν ἦν δηλονότι. Οὔτε γὰρ αἱ τῶν ἀγγέλων ἀξίαι οὔτε πᾶσαι αἱ ἐπουράνιοι στρατιαὶ ἐν σκότει διῆγον Ἀλλ᾿ ἐν φωτὶ καὶ πάσῃ εὐφροσύνῃ πνευματικῇ. Καὶ τούτοις οὐδεὶς ἀντερεῖ, ὅστις τὸ ὑπερουράνιον φῶς ἐν ταῖς τῶν ἀγαθῶν ἐπαγγελίαις ἐκδέχεται, περὶ οὗ Σολομών φησι· Φῶς δικαίοις διαπαντός. Καὶ ὁ ᾿Απόστολος· «Εὐχαριστοῦντες τῷ Πατρὶ τῷ ἱκανώσαντι ἡμᾶς ἐν τῇ μερίδι τοῦ κλήρου τῶν ἁγίων ἐν τῷ φωτί. Ἐπεὶ οὖν ἐγένετο ὁ οὐρανὸς προστάγματι Θεοῦ ἀθρόως περιταθεὶς τοῖς ἐντὸς ὑπὸ τῆς οἰκείας αὐτοῦ περιφερείας ἀπειλημμένοις, σῶμα ἔχων δὲ συνεχές, ἱκανὸν τῶν ἔνδον διαστῆσαι τὰ ἔξω· ἀναγκαίως τὸν ἐναπολειφθέντα τόπον αὐτῷ ἀφεγγῆ κατέστησε τὴν ἔξωθεν αὐγὴν διακόψας. Τρία γὰρ δεῖ συνδραμεῖν ἐπὶ τῆς σκιᾶς, τὸ φῶς, τὸ σῶμα, τὸν ἀλαμπῆ τόπον. Τὸ τοίνυν ἐγκόσμιον σκότος τῇ σκιᾷ τοῦ οὐρανίου σώματος παρυπέστη.
Poiou toinyn phōtos amoiros aiphnidiōs ho en tǭ kosmǭ topos heurethē, hōste to skotos epanō einai tou hydatos? Logizometha, hoti eiper ti ēn pro toutou tou aisthētou kosmou, en phōti an ēn dēlonoti. Oute gar hai tōn angelōn axiai oute pasai hai epouranioi stratiai en skotei diēgon All᾿ en phōti kai pasę̄ euphrosynę̄ pneumatikę̄. Kai toutois oudeis anterei, hostis to hyperouranion phōs en tais tōn agathōn epangeliais ekdechetai, peri hou Solomōn phēsi; Phōs dikaiois diapantos. Kai ho ᾿Apostolos; «Eucharistountes tǭ Patri tǭ hikanōsanti hēmas en tę̄ meridi tou klērou tōn hagiōn en tǭ phōti. Epei oun egeneto ho ouranos prostagmati Theou athroōs peritatheis tois entos hypo tēs oikeias autou periphereias apeilēmmenois, sōma echōn de syneches, hikanon tōn endon diastēsai ta exō; anankaiōs ton enapoleiphthenta topon autǭ aphengē katestēse tēn exōthen augēn diakopsas. Tria gar dei syndramein epi tēs skias, to phōs, to sōma, ton alampē topon. To toinyn enkosmion skotos tę̄ skią tou ouraniou sōmatos parypestē.
What kind of light, then, was the place within the world suddenly found to lack, so that darkness was over the water? We reason that if anything existed before this perceptible world, it was plainly in light. For neither the ranks of the angels nor all the heavenly hosts passed their existence in darkness, but in light and all spiritual joy. And no one will contradict this who expects the light above the heavens among the promised good things, about which Solomon says, “Light for the righteous always,” and the Apostle, “giving thanks to the Father who has made us fit for a share in the inheritance of the saints in the light.” Since, then, the heaven came into being at God's command, stretched all at once around what was enclosed within its circumference, and having a continuous body able to separate what is inside from what is outside, it necessarily left the space within it without light, cutting off the brightness from outside. For three things must come together for a shadow: the light, the body, and the unlit place. The darkness within the world, then, came about as the shadow of the heavenly body.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 1:2 (allusion, high confidence) · Prov 13:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:12 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: This unnumbered section explains the darkness of Gen 1:2 as the shadow cast inside the newly made heaven, which shut out the light that already existed above it.
- Migne prints this section without a number after Question 6. It agrees closely with Basil, Hexaemeron 2.5, and is probably an addition taken from Basil rather than Theodoret's own question. Quotations: Prov 13:9 (LXX); Col 1:12.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): παουπέστη → παρυπέστη.
Extrabiblical texts: Basil, Hex. 2.5 (Homilies on the Hexaemeron; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.6.1 (PG 80 80:85; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-6-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
Prologue 1
1.7PG 80 80:87
Εἰ τὸ φῶς ὁ Θεὸς ἐδημιούργησε, πῶς αὐτὸς τὸ σκότος ἐποίησεν; ἐναντία γὰρ ταῦτα ἀλλήλοις. Ἐναντία μὲν ἀλλήλοις, ἀλλ᾽ ἀναγκαῖα τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἀμφότερα. Τὸ μὲν γὰρ πρὸς ἐργασίαν τε καὶ φιλοπονίαν συνεργεῖ τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, καὶ ὑποδείκνυσι τὰ ὁρώμενα, καὶ τὸν τούτων ποιητὴν ὑμνεῖσθαι παρασκευάζει. Τὸ δὲ διαπαύει καὶ νεουργεῖ τοὺς ἀνθρώπους, καὶ τὸν ἐκ τῆς ἐργασίας ἐγγινόμενον διαλύει πόνον. Καὶ τοὺς ἀνθρώπους μὲν οἶκαδε συναγείρει, τοῖς δὲ γε θηρίοις ἄδειαν παρέχει νομῆς. Καὶ τοῦτο σαφῶς ἡμᾶς ὁ θεῖος διδάσκει Δαβίδ. Ἔθου γὰρ, φησὶ, σκότος, καὶ ἐγένετο νὺξ, ἐν αὐτῇ διελεύσονται πάντα τὰ θηρία τοῦ ἀγροῦ. Σκύμνοι ὠρυόμενοι τοῦ ἁρπάσαι, καὶ ζητῆσαι παρὰ τῷ Θεῷ βρῶσιν αὐτοῖς. Ἀνέτειλεν ὁ ἥλιος, καὶ συνήχθησαν, καὶ εἰς τὰς μάνδρας αὐτῶν κοιτασθήσονται. Ἐξελεύσεται ἄνθρωπος ἐπὶ τὸ ἔργον αὑτοῦ, καὶ ἐπὶ τὴν ἐργασίαν αὐτοῦ ἕως ἑσπέρας. Οὕτως ταῦτα εἰπὼν τὴν τοῦ ποιητοῦ θαυμάζει μεγαλουργίαν, καί φησιν, Ὡς ἐμεγαλύνθη τὰ ἔργα σου, Κύριε, πάντα ἐν σοφίᾳ ἐποίησας. Ὅτι μὲν οὖν ἀναγκαῖον τὸ σκότος, ἀκριβῶς μεμαθήκαμεν. Ὅτι δὲ οὐκ οὐσία τίς ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ πρᾶγμα συμβεβηκὸς, καταμαθεῖν εὐπετές. Οὐρανοῦ γὰρ καὶ γῆς ἐστιν ἀποσκίασμα διά τοι τοῦτο φροῦδον γίνεται τοῦ φωτὸς ἀνίσχοντος. Τὸ δὲ φῶς οὐσία ἐστὶ καὶ ὑφέστηκε· καὶ δυόμενον ἀνίσχει, καὶ ἀπιὸν ἐπανέρχεται. Ωσπερ γὰρ τὸ σῶμα τὸ ἡμέτερον οὐσία τίς ἐστιν, ἡ δὲ διὰ τούτου ἀποτελουμένη σκιά συμβεβηκός ἐστιν, οὐκ οὐσία· οὕτως ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ, τὰ μέγιστα σώματα, οὐσίαι εἰσὶ διάφοροι· ἡ δὲ ἐκ τούτων ἀποτελουμένη σκιά, τοῦ φωτὸς οὐ παρόντος, ὀνομάζεται σκότος εἰσελθὸν δὲ τὸ φῶς ἀφανίζει τὸ σκότος. Τοῦτο δὲ γνοίη τις ἂν καὶ ἑτέρωθεν. Οἶκος γὰρ οὐκ ἔχων φωταγωγοὺς σκότους ἐστὶν ἀνάπλεως. Εἰσκομισθείσης δὲ λαμπάδος φωτίζεται οὐ τοῦ σκότους ἄλλοσε μεταβαίνοντος· οὐ γὰρ ὑφέστηκεν, ἀνυπόστατον δὲ χρῆμά ἐστιν· ἀλλὰ πάμπαν διολλυμένου τῇ τοῦ φωτὸς παρουσίᾳ. Σκιὰ γάρ ἐστι διὰ τῆς ὀροφῆς, καὶ τοῦ ἐδάφους, καὶ τῶν τοίχων συνισταμένη, εἶτα ταῖς τοῦ φωτὸς δια λυομένη μαρμαρυγαῖς. Τοῦτο καθ' ἑκάστην ἡμέραν ὁρῶμεν ἐπιτελούμενον. Ὑποχωροῦντος γὰρ τοῦ φω· τὸς, οὐρανοῦ καὶ γῆς ἡ σκιὰ τὸ σκότος ἀποτελεῖ ἀνίσχοντος δὲ πάλιν, διαλύεται τοῦτο. Οὐ τοίνυν ἀγένητος οὐσία τὸ σκότος, οὔτε μὴν γενητή τις ὑπόστασις· ἀλλ᾽ ἐκ τῶν γενητῶν συνισταμένη χρῆσις ἀναγκαία, καὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ τὴν σοφίαν κηρύττουσα. Αὐτίκα γοῦν ὁ προφήτης τὸν τῶν ὅλων Θεὸν καὶ ἐντεῦθεν ὑμνεῖ. Ὁ ποιήσας γὰρ, φησὶ, φῶς, καὶ κατασκευάσας σκότος. Αρμοδίως δὲ ἄγαν ἑκάτερα τέθεικεν· τὸ μὲν ποιήσας ἐπὶ τοῦ φωτὸς, τὸ δὲ κατασκευάσας ἐπὶ τοῦ σκότους· συμβεβηκὸς γάρ ἐστι, συνιστάμενον καὶ διαλυόμενον. Καὶ οἱ τρεῖς δὲ μακάριοι παῖδες πᾶσαν τὴν κτίσιν εἰς ὑμνῳδίαν καλέσαντες, τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τὴν νύκτα συνέζευξαν, καὶ τῷ φωτὶ τὸ σκότος συνήρμοσαν. Ἐπὶ δὲ ταῖς τούτων διαδοχαῖς, καὶ ὁ χρόνος μετρεῖται, καὶ ὁ τῶν ἀνθρώπων συνίσταται βίος.
Ei to phōs ho Theos edēmiourgēse, pōs autos to skotos epoiēsen? enantia gar tauta allēlois. Enantia men allēlois, all᾽ anankaia tois anthrōpois amphotera. To men gar pros ergasian te kai philoponian synergei tois anthrōpois, kai hypodeiknysi ta horōmena, kai ton toutōn poiētēn hymneisthai paraskeuazei. To de diapauei kai neourgei tous anthrōpous, kai ton ek tēs ergasias enginomenon dialyei ponon. Kai tous anthrōpous men oikade synageirei, tois de ge thēriois adeian parechei nomēs. Kai touto saphōs hēmas ho theios didaskei Dabid. Ethou gar, phēsi, skotos, kai egeneto nyx, en autę̄ dieleusontai panta ta thēria tou agrou. Skymnoi ōryomenoi tou harpasai, kai zētēsai para tǭ Theǭ brōsin autois. Aneteilen ho hēlios, kai synēchthēsan, kai eis tas mandras autōn koitasthēsontai. Exeleusetai anthrōpos epi to ergon hautou, kai epi tēn ergasian autou heōs hesperas. Houtōs tauta eipōn tēn tou poiētou thaumazei megalourgian, kai phēsin, Hōs emegalynthē ta erga sou, Kyrie, panta en sophią epoiēsas. Hoti men oun anankaion to skotos, akribōs memathēkamen. Hoti de ouk ousia tis estin, alla pragma symbebēkos, katamathein eupetes. Ouranou gar kai gēs estin aposkiasma dia toi touto phroudon ginetai tou phōtos anischontos. To de phōs ousia esti kai hyphestēke; kai dyomenon anischei, kai apion epanerchetai. Ōsper gar to sōma to hēmeteron ousia tis estin, hē de dia toutou apoteloumenē skia symbebēkos estin, ouk ousia; houtōs ho ouranos kai hē gē, ta megista sōmata, ousiai eisi diaphoroi; hē de ek toutōn apoteloumenē skia, tou phōtos ou parontos, onomazetai skotos eiselthon de to phōs aphanizei to skotos. Touto de gnoiē tis an kai heterōthen. Oikos gar ouk echōn phōtagōgous skotous estin anapleōs. Eiskomistheisēs de lampados phōtizetai ou tou skotous allose metabainontos; ou gar hyphestēken, anypostaton de chrēma estin; alla pampan diollymenou tę̄ tou phōtos parousią. Skia gar esti dia tēs orophēs, kai tou edaphous, kai tōn toichōn synistamenē, eita tais tou phōtos dia lyomenē marmarygais. Touto kath' hekastēn hēmeran horōmen epiteloumenon. Hypochōrountos gar tou phō; tos, ouranou kai gēs hē skia to skotos apotelei anischontos de palin, dialyetai touto. Ou toinyn agenētos ousia to skotos, oute mēn genētē tis hypostasis; all᾽ ek tōn genētōn synistamenē chrēsis anankaia, kai tou Theou tēn sophian kēryttousa. Autika goun ho prophētēs ton tōn holōn Theon kai enteuthen hymnei. Ho poiēsas gar, phēsi, phōs, kai kataskeuasas skotos. Armodiōs de agan hekatera tetheiken; to men poiēsas epi tou phōtos, to de kataskeuasas epi tou skotous; symbebēkos gar esti, synistamenon kai dialyomenon. Kai hoi treis de makarioi paides pasan tēn ktisin eis hymnǭdian kalesantes, tę̄ hēmerą tēn nykta synezeuxan, kai tǭ phōti to skotos synērmosan. Epi de tais toutōn diadochais, kai ho chronos metreitai, kai ho tōn anthrōpōn synistatai bios.
If God created light, how did he himself make darkness? For these are opposed to each other. Opposed to each other, yes, but both are necessary for human beings. The one assists people in work and industry, shows what is seen, and prepares them to hymn the maker of these things. The other gives people rest and renews them, and dissolves the weariness that comes from work. It gathers people home, and gives the wild beasts freedom to feed. The divine David teaches us this clearly: “You made darkness,” he says, “and it became night; in it all the beasts of the field will go about; young lions roaring to seize prey and to seek their food from God. The sun rose, and they gathered together, and they will lie down in their dens. Man will go out to his work and to his labor until evening.” Having said this, he marvels at the maker's mighty work and says, “How great are your works, O Lord! In wisdom you have made them all.” That darkness is necessary, then, we have learned precisely. That it is not a substance, but an accident, is easy to see. It is the shadow of heaven and earth; that is why it vanishes when the light rises. But light is a substance and has real existence: when it sets it rises again, and when it departs it returns. For just as our body is a substance, while the shadow it casts is an accident, not a substance, so heaven and earth, the greatest bodies, are distinct substances; but the shadow cast by them when the light is not present is called darkness, and when the light comes in, it does away with the darkness. One could learn this from another quarter too. A house without windows is full of darkness. When a lamp is brought in, it is lit, not because the darkness moves elsewhere (for it has no real existence; it is a thing without substance), but because it is wholly destroyed by the presence of the light. For it is a shadow formed by the roof, the floor, and the walls, and then dissolved by the gleams of the light. We see this happening every day. When the light withdraws, the shadow of heaven and earth produces darkness; when it rises again, this is dissolved. Darkness, then, is neither an uncreated substance nor a created reality, but a necessary condition arising from created things and proclaiming the wisdom of God. So the prophet hymns the God of the universe for this too: “He who made light,” he says, “and fashioned darkness.” He set each word very fittingly: “made” of the light, “fashioned” of the darkness; for it is an accident, arising and dissolving. And the three blessed young men, calling the whole creation to sing hymns, joined night to day and darkness to light. By their succession time is measured and human life is sustained.
Ps 104:20–23 (103:20-Ps LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 104:24 (103:24 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 45:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:2–5 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Theodoret explains that darkness, though opposite to light, is useful, and that it is not a substance but the shadow cast by heaven and earth.
- Quotations: Ps 104:20–23, 24 (LXX 103:20–23, 24); Isa 45:7 (LXX). Allusion: the Song of the Three Young Men (Dan 3:71–72 LXX). A stray bracket in the scan was removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray bracket): ἐστιν, ( ἀλλὰ → ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ.
Extrabiblical texts: Pr Azar 47-48 (Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Young Men [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Creation, Providence
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.7 (PG 80 80:87; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.8PG 80 80:89
Ποῖον πνεῦμα ἐπεφέρετο ἐπάνω τοῦ ὕδατος; Τισὶ δοκεῖ τὸ πανάγιον Πνεῦμα ζωογονοῦν τῶν ὑδάτων τὴν φύσιν, καὶ διαγράφον τὴν τοῦ βαπτίσματος χάριν. ᾿Αληθέστερον μέντοι ἐκεῖνον οἶμαι τὸν λόγον, ὅτι τὸ πνεῦμα ἐνταῦθα τὸν ἀέρα καλεῖ. Εἰπὼν γὰρ, ὅτι τὸν οὐρανὸν καὶ τὴν γῆν ἐποίησε, καὶ τῶν ὑδάτων διὰ τῆς ἀβύσσου μνησθεὶς, ἀναγκαίως καὶ τοῦ ἀέρος ἐμνήσθη, ἐκ τῆς τοῦ ὕδατος ἐπιφανείας μέχρι τοῦ οὐρανοῦ διήκοντος. ᾿Αέρος γὰρ φύσις, τὸ τοῖς κάτω κειμένοις ἐπιφέρεσθαι σώμασι. Μάλα δὲ ἁρμοδίως τὸ ἐπεφέρετο, καὶ οὐκ ἐπέκειτο εἴρηκε· τὸ γὰρ ἐπεφέρετο τὴν κινητικὴν τοῦ ἀέρος οὐσίαν παρεδήλου. Εἰ δέ τις τοῦτον οὐ προσἱεται τὸν λόγον, ἐπειδὴ γέγραπται· «Πνεῦμα Θεοῦ ἐπεφέρετο ἐπάνω τοῦ ὕδατος, ἀκουέτω τοῦ μακαρίου Δαβίδ λέγοντος περὶ τοῦ Θεοῦ τῶν ὅλων· Πνεύσει τὸ πνεῦμα αὐτοῦ, καὶ ῥυήσεται ὕδατα. Ὅτι δὲ τὸν ἄνεμον οὕτως ἐκάλεσε, δῆλόν ἐστι κἂν μὴ λέγω· Εὔρου γὰρ ἢ Νότου πνέοντος, τὸ πεπηγὸς ὕδωρ διαλύεσθαι πέφυκεν.
Poion pneuma epephereto epanō tou hydatos? Tisi dokei to panagion Pneuma zōogonoun tōn hydatōn tēn physin, kai diagraphon tēn tou baptismatos charin. ᾿Alēthesteron mentoi ekeinon oimai ton logon, hoti to pneuma entautha ton aera kalei. Eipōn gar, hoti ton ouranon kai tēn gēn epoiēse, kai tōn hydatōn dia tēs abyssou mnēstheis, anankaiōs kai tou aeros emnēsthē, ek tēs tou hydatos epiphaneias mechri tou ouranou diēkontos. ᾿Aeros gar physis, to tois katō keimenois epipheresthai sōmasi. Mala de harmodiōs to epephereto, kai ouk epekeito eirēke; to gar epephereto tēn kinētikēn tou aeros ousian paredēlou. Ei de tis touton ou prosietai ton logon, epeidē gegraptai; «Pneuma Theou epephereto epanō tou hydatos, akouetō tou makariou Dabid legontos peri tou Theou tōn holōn; Pneusei to pneuma autou, kai rhyēsetai hydata. Hoti de ton anemon houtōs ekalese, dēlon esti kan mē legō; Eurou gar ē Notou pneontos, to pepēgos hydōr dialyesthai pephyken.
What spirit was borne over the water? Some think it is the all-holy Spirit, giving life to the nature of the waters and prefiguring the grace of baptism. But I think the other explanation is truer: that here he calls the air “spirit.” For having said that he made heaven and earth, and having mentioned the waters by speaking of the abyss, he necessarily mentioned the air too, which extends from the surface of the water up to heaven. It is the nature of air to be borne over the bodies lying below. And he said very aptly “was borne” and not “lay upon”; for “was borne” indicated the mobile substance of the air. If anyone does not accept this explanation, because it is written, “The Spirit of God was borne over the water,” let him hear blessed David saying of the God of the universe, “He will blow his wind, and waters will flow.” That he called the wind so is clear even if I do not say it; for when the east wind or the south wind blows, frozen water naturally melts.
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 147:18 (147:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret mentions the view that the Spirit over the waters is the Holy Spirit prefiguring baptism, but prefers to take it as the air or wind.
- πνεῦμα means both “spirit” and “wind”; in the psalm quotation it is rendered “wind.” Theodoret's preference for “air” is his own exegetical judgment, stated as such. Quotations: Gen 1:2; Ps 147:18 (LXX 147:7).
Topics: Creation, The Holy Spirit, Interpreting Scripture
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.8 (PG 80 80:89; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.9PG 80 80:89
Τίνι λέγει ὁ Θεός «Γενηθήτω φῶς, καὶ,› γενηθήτω στερέωμα ; Οὐκ ἄλλῳ τινὶ κελεύει δημιουργεῖν, ἀλλὰ τὰ μὴ ὄντα καλεῖ ἐνταῦθα δὲ πρόσταγμα τὸ βούλημα. Πάντα γὰρ, φησὶν, ὅσα ἠθέλησεν, ὁ Θεὸς ἐποίησεν.» Εἰ δὲ καὶ φωνῇ τινι ἐχρήσατο, δῆλον ὡς οὐ τῶν ἀψύχων ἕνεκα στοιχείων, ἀλλὰ τῶν ἀοράτων χάριν δυνάμεων· ἵνα γνῶσιν, ὡς αὐτοῦ κελεύοντος τὰ μὴ ὄντα συνίσταται.
Tini legei ho Theos «Genēthētō phōs, kai,› genēthētō stereōma ? Ouk allǭ tini keleuei dēmiourgein, alla ta mē onta kalei entautha de prostagma to boulēma. Panta gar, phēsin, hosa ēthelēsen, ho Theos epoiēsen.» Ei de kai phōnę̄ tini echrēsato, dēlon hōs ou tōn apsychōn heneka stoicheiōn, alla tōn aoratōn charin dynameōn; hina gnōsin, hōs autou keleuontos ta mē onta synistatai.
To whom does God say, “Let there be light,” and “Let there be a firmament”? He does not command anyone else to create; he calls the things that are not. Here the command is the will; for “whatever God willed,” it says, “he has done.” And if he did use some voice, it was plainly not for the sake of the lifeless elements, but for the sake of the invisible powers, so that they might know that at his command what is not comes to be.
Gen 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 135:6 (134:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 4:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret explains that God's “let there be” expresses his will, not an order to another creator, and any spoken word was for the angels' sake.
- Quotations: Gen 1:3, 6; Ps 135:6 (LXX 134:6; compare Ps 115:3). Allusion: Rom 4:17.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Τίνι λένει → Τίνι λέγει.
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.9 (PG 80 80:89; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.10PG 80 80:89
Διατί τέθεικεν ὁ συγγραφεὺς τὸ ι Εἶδεν ὁ Θεὸς ὅτι καλόν ; Ἵνα πείσῃ τοὺς ἀχαρίστους μὴ ψέγειν ἅπερ ἡ θεία ψῆφος ὀνομάζει καλά.
Diati tetheiken ho syngrapheus to i Eiden ho Theos hoti kalon ? Hina peisę̄ tous acharistous mē psegein haper hē theia psēphos onomazei kala.
Why did the writer put, “God saw that it was good”? To persuade the ungrateful not to find fault with what the divine verdict names good.
Gen 1:4 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God's verdict “it was good” is recorded so that no one would find fault with creation.
- Quotation: Gen 1:4.
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.10 (PG 80 80:89; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.11PG 80 80:91
Εἷς οὐρανὸς, ἢ δύο εἰσίν; Τῆς θείας διδασκούσης Γραφῆς, ὡς ἐν ἀρχῇ ἐποίησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν οὐρανὸν, καὶ τὴν γῆν, εἶτα μετὰ τὴν τοῦ φωτὸς δημιουργίαν ἐν τῇ δευτέρᾳ λεγούσης ἡμέρᾳ τὸ στερέωμα γεγενῆσθαι, πολλὴν ἡ ἐρώτησις τῶν πυνθανομένων ἐμφαίνει τὴν ἄνοιαν. Ἔδει γὰρ καὶ ἐκ τοῦ καιροῦ, καὶ μέντοι καὶ ἐκ τοῦ τρόπου τῆς δημιουργίας, τὸ διάφορον γνῶναι. Ὁ μὲν γὰρ πρὸ τοῦ φωτὸς, ὁ δὲ μετὰ τὸ φῶς. Καὶ ὁ μὲν οὐκ ἔκ τινος ὁ δὲ ἐξ ὑδάτων. «Γενηθήτω γὰρ, φησὶ, στερέωμα ἐν μέσῳ τοῦ ὕδατος, καὶ ἔστω διαχωρίζον ἀνὰ μέσον ὕδατος καὶ ὕδατος. Εἶτα εἰπὼν ὡς ὁ λόγος ἔργον ἐγένετο τοῦτο γὰρ δηλοῖ τὸ Καὶ ἐγένετο οὕτως· διδάσκει καὶ πῶς ἐγένετο. Ἐποίησε γὰρ, φησὶν, ὁ Θεὸς τὸ στερέωμα· καὶ διεχώρισεν ὁ Θεὸς ἀνὰ μέσον τοῦ ὕδατος ὃ ἦν ὑποκάτω τοῦ στερεώματος, καὶ ἀνὰ μέσον τοῦ ὕδατος τοῦ ἐπάνω τοῦ στερεώματος. Καὶ ἐκάλεσεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸ στερέωμα οὐρανόν. Ὁ δὲ πρό τερος οὐρανὸς οὐκ ἐκλήθη στερέωμα, ἀλλ' οὐρανὸς ἐξ ἀρχῆς ὠνομάσθη. Οὗτος γὰρ ἐξ αὐτοῦ τοῦ πράγματος τὴν προσηγορίαν ἐδέξατο. Ἐπειδὴ γὰρ ἐκ τῆς ῥοώδους τῶν ὑδάτων οὐσίας συνέστη, καὶ ἡ ῥυτὴ φύσις στεγανωτάτη γέγονε καὶ στερέμνιος, προσηγορεύθη στερέωμα. Εἶτα ὡς ἄνωθεν ἐπικείμενος, καὶ προτέρου οὐρανοῦ τὴν χρείαν ἡμῖν πληρῶν, οὐρανὸς προσωνομάσθη. Διχῆ δὲ διεῖλε τῶν ὑδάτων τὴν φύσιν ὁ τῶν ὅλων Θεός· καὶ τὰ μὲν ἄνωθεν ἐπιτέθεικε τῷ στερεώματι, τὰ δὲ κάτω καταλέλοιπεν· ἵνα τὰ μὲν ἄνωθεν ἐπικείμενα τῇ τε ὑγρότητι καὶ ψυχρότητι μὴ συγχωρῇ τῷ πυρὶ τῶν φωστήρων λωβᾶσθαι τὸ στερέωμα· τὰ δὲ κάτω μεμενηκότα διατρέφῃ τοῖς ἀτ· μοῖς τὸν ἀέρα διαυαινόμενον, καὶ ξηραινόμενον ὑπὸ τοῦ ἄνωθεν ἐπικειμένου πυρός. Τοιγαροῦν καὶ ὁ τῷ δευτέρῳ διαπιστῶν οὐρανῷ ἔξω βαίνει τῆς εὐθείας ὁδοῦ· καὶ ὁ πλείους πειρώμενος ἀριθμεῖν μύθοις ἕπεται, τῆς τοῦ θείου Πνεύματος διδασκαλίας καταφρονῶν. Πληθυντικῶς δὲ ἡ θεία Γραφὴ τοὺς οὐρανοὺς ὀνομάζει, λέγουσα· Οἱ οὐρανοὶ τῶν οὐρανῶν·, ἐπειδὴ τῶν Ἑβραίων ἡ γλῶττα οὔτε τὸν οὐρανὸν, οὔτε τὸ ὕδωρ οἶδεν ἑνικῶς ὀνομάσαι. Εὔροι δ᾽ ἄν τις τοιαῦτα πολλὰ καὶ παρὰ τῇ Ἑλλάδι φωνῇ. ᾿Αθήναν γὰρ τὴν πόλιν οὐδεὶς ἑνικῶς ὀνομάζει, ἀλλ᾿ ᾿Αθήνας πληθυντικῶς. Καὶ Δελφῶν πάλιν τὴν πόλιν οὐδεὶς Δελφὸν, ἀλλὰ Δελφοὺς πληθυντικῶς. Οὐ τοίνυν ὡς πολλῶν ὄντων οὐρανῶν ἡ θεία πληθυντικῶς εἶπε Γραφή· ἀλλὰ τὸ ἰδίωμα φυλάξασα τῆς Ἑβραΐδος φωνῆς. Ἐπεὶ ἐν ἑτέρῳ ψαλμῷ σαφέστερον ἡμᾶς τοῦτο διδάσκουσα, καὶ παραλιποῦσα τὸ τῆς γλώττης ἐκείνης ἰδίωμα, οὕτως ἔφη· Ὁ οὐρανὸς τοῦ οὐρα νοῦ τῷ Κυρίῳ. Ὡς εἶναι δῆλον, ὅτι καθάπερ οὗτος ὁ οὐρανὸς ἡμῖν ἐστιν ὄροφος, ἡ δὲ γῆ ἔδαφος, οὕτως ὁ ὁρώμενος οὐρανὸς ὄροφον ἔχει τὸν ὑπερκείμενον οὐρανόν.
Heis ouranos, ē dyo eisin? Tēs theias didaskousēs Graphēs, hōs en archę̄ epoiēsen ho Theos ton ouranon, kai tēn gēn, eita meta tēn tou phōtos dēmiourgian en tę̄ deuterą legousēs hēmerą to stereōma gegenēsthai, pollēn hē erōtēsis tōn pynthanomenōn emphainei tēn anoian. Edei gar kai ek tou kairou, kai mentoi kai ek tou tropou tēs dēmiourgias, to diaphoron gnōnai. Ho men gar pro tou phōtos, ho de meta to phōs. Kai ho men ouk ek tinos ho de ex hydatōn. «Genēthētō gar, phēsi, stereōma en mesǭ tou hydatos, kai estō diachōrizon ana meson hydatos kai hydatos. Eita eipōn hōs ho logos ergon egeneto touto gar dēloi to Kai egeneto houtōs; didaskei kai pōs egeneto. Epoiēse gar, phēsin, ho Theos to stereōma; kai diechōrisen ho Theos ana meson tou hydatos ho ēn hypokatō tou stereōmatos, kai ana meson tou hydatos tou epanō tou stereōmatos. Kai ekalesen ho Theos to stereōma ouranon. Ho de pro teros ouranos ouk eklēthē stereōma, all' ouranos ex archēs ōnomasthē. Houtos gar ex autou tou pragmatos tēn prosēgorian edexato. Epeidē gar ek tēs rhoōdous tōn hydatōn ousias synestē, kai hē rhytē physis steganōtatē gegone kai steremnios, prosēgoreuthē stereōma. Eita hōs anōthen epikeimenos, kai proterou ouranou tēn chreian hēmin plērōn, ouranos prosōnomasthē. Dichē de dieile tōn hydatōn tēn physin ho tōn holōn Theos; kai ta men anōthen epitetheike tǭ stereōmati, ta de katō kataleloipen; hina ta men anōthen epikeimena tę̄ te hygrotēti kai psychrotēti mē synchōrę̄ tǭ pyri tōn phōstērōn lōbasthai to stereōma; ta de katō memenēkota diatrephę̄ tois at; mois ton aera diauainomenon, kai xērainomenon hypo tou anōthen epikeimenou pyros. Toigaroun kai ho tǭ deuterǭ diapistōn ouranǭ exō bainei tēs eutheias hodou; kai ho pleious peirōmenos arithmein mythois hepetai, tēs tou theiou Pneumatos didaskalias kataphronōn. Plēthyntikōs de hē theia Graphē tous ouranous onomazei, legousa; Hoi ouranoi tōn ouranōn;, epeidē tōn Hebraiōn hē glōtta oute ton ouranon, oute to hydōr oiden henikōs onomasai. Euroi d᾽ an tis toiauta polla kai para tę̄ Helladi phōnę̄. ᾿Athēnan gar tēn polin oudeis henikōs onomazei, all᾿ ᾿Athēnas plēthyntikōs. Kai Delphōn palin tēn polin oudeis Delphon, alla Delphous plēthyntikōs. Ou toinyn hōs pollōn ontōn ouranōn hē theia plēthyntikōs eipe Graphē; alla to idiōma phylaxasa tēs Hebraïdos phōnēs. Epei en heterǭ psalmǭ saphesteron hēmas touto didaskousa, kai paralipousa to tēs glōttēs ekeinēs idiōma, houtōs ephē; Ho ouranos tou oura nou tǭ Kyriǭ. Hōs einai dēlon, hoti kathaper houtos ho ouranos hēmin estin orophos, hē de gē edaphos, houtōs ho horōmenos ouranos orophon echei ton hyperkeimenon ouranon.
Is there one heaven, or are there two? Since the divine Scripture teaches that in the beginning God made heaven and earth, and then says that after the creation of light, on the second day, the firmament came into being, the question shows great folly in those who ask it. They ought to have recognized the difference both from the time and from the manner of creation. The one was before the light, the other after the light; the one was made from nothing, the other from waters. “Let there be,” it says, “a firmament in the middle of the water, and let it separate between water and water.” Then, having said that the word became deed (for this is what “and it was so” shows), it teaches also how it came to be: “God made the firmament; and God separated between the water that was under the firmament and the water above the firmament. And God called the firmament heaven.” But the first heaven was not called firmament; it was named heaven from the beginning. This one received its name from the thing itself. Since it was formed from the flowing substance of the waters, and the fluid nature became very tight and solid, it was called firmament. Then, as lying above us and fulfilling for us the use of the former heaven, it was named heaven as well. The God of the universe divided the nature of the waters in two: some he set above the firmament, some he left below, so that the waters lying above, by their moisture and coldness, might not allow the fire of the luminaries to harm the firmament, and those remaining below might nourish with their vapors the air, which is dried out and parched by the fire lying above. So the one who disbelieves in the second heaven goes off the straight road, and the one who tries to count more heavens follows myths, despising the teaching of the divine Spirit. The divine Scripture names the heavens in the plural, saying, “The heavens of the heavens,” because the language of the Hebrews cannot name either heaven or water in the singular. One could find many such cases in Greek too. No one names the city of Athens in the singular, but always in the plural; and again no one calls the city of Delphi by a singular name, but always in the plural. So the divine Scripture spoke in the plural not because there are many heavens, but keeping the idiom of the Hebrew tongue. For in another psalm it teaches us this more clearly, leaving aside the idiom of that tongue, and says, “The heaven of heaven is the Lord's.” So it is plain that just as this heaven is a roof for us and the earth a floor, so the visible heaven has the heaven lying above it as its roof.
Gen 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:6–8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 115:16 (113:24 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret distinguishes the first heaven of Gen 1:1 from the firmament of the second day and explains the plural “heavens” as a Hebrew idiom.
- Quotations: Gen 1:6–8; Ps 148:4; Ps 115:16 (LXX 113:24). The Greek city names are Ἀθῆναι and Δελφοί, both plural. A fragment of the edition's notes (“Then having said – was named”) at the end of the section was removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (fragment of the edition's notes leaked into the text): οὐρανόν.Εἶτα εἰπὼν – ὠνομάσθη. → οὐρανόν..
Topics: Creation, Interpreting Scripture
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.11 (PG 80 80:91; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.12PG 80 80:93
Τι δή ποτε μίαν εἰπὼν τὴν τῶν ὑδάτων συναγωγὴν, πολλὰς μετὰ ταῦτα δηλοῖ; - Συναχθήτω γὰρ, φησὶ, τὸ ὕδωρ τὸ ὑποκάτω τοῦ οὐρανοῦ εἰς τὰς συναγωγὰς αὐτῶν. Μία μέν ἐστι τῶν ὑδάτων συναγωγή τὰ πελάγη γὰρ ἀλλήλοις συνήρμοσται· τὰ μὲν κάτωθεν διά τινων ὑπογείων πόρων· τὰ δὲ καὶ κατ᾿ αὐτὴν τὴν ἐπιφάνειαν. Πληθυντικῶς δὲ πάλιν τὰς συναγωγὰς ὠνόμασεν· ἐπειδὴ ἄλλο μὲν τὸ Ἰνδικὸν πέλαγος, ἄλλο δὲ τὸ Ποντικὸν, καὶ τὸ Τυῤῥηνικὸν ἕτερον. Καὶ ἄλλη μὲν ἡ Προποντὶς, ἄλλος δὲ ὁ Ἑλλήσποντος. Καὶ ὁ Αἰγαῖος ἕτερος, καὶ ἄλλος πάλιν ὁ Ἰώνιος κόλπος. Ἔξωθεν δὲ πάλιν ἐπίκειται τὸ μέγιστον πέλαγος, ὅ τινες μὲν Ατλαντικὸν, τινὲς δὲ Ὠκεανὸν ὀνομάζουσι. Τούτου χάριν, ὡς μὲν συνημμένην, συναγωγὴν μίαν ὠνόμασεν· ὡς δὲ διῃρημένας, συναγωγάς.
Ti dē pote mian eipōn tēn tōn hydatōn synagōgēn, pollas meta tauta dēloi? - Synachthētō gar, phēsi, to hydōr to hypokatō tou ouranou eis tas synagōgas autōn. Mia men esti tōn hydatōn synagōgē ta pelagē gar allēlois synērmostai; ta men katōthen dia tinōn hypogeiōn porōn; ta de kai kat᾿ autēn tēn epiphaneian. Plēthyntikōs de palin tas synagōgas ōnomasen; epeidē allo men to Indikon pelagos, allo de to Pontikon, kai to Tyrrhēnikon heteron. Kai allē men hē Propontis, allos de ho Hellēspontos. Kai ho Aigaios heteros, kai allos palin ho Iōnios kolpos. Exōthen de palin epikeitai to megiston pelagos, ho tines men Atlantikon, tines de Ōkeanon onomazousi. Toutou charin, hōs men synēmmenēn, synagōgēn mian ōnomasen; hōs de dię̄rēmenas, synagōgas.
Why, after speaking of one gathering of the waters, does he afterwards indicate many? For he says, “Let the water under heaven be gathered into their gatherings.” There is one gathering of the waters, for the seas are joined to one another, some below through underground channels, others at the very surface. But again he named the gatherings in the plural, since the Indian Sea is one, the Pontic another, and the Tyrrhenian another; the Propontis is one and the Hellespont another; the Aegean is another, and again the Ionian Gulf another. And outside these lies the greatest sea, which some name the Atlantic and others Ocean. For this reason he named it one gathering as joined together, and gatherings as divided.
Gen 1:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret explains that the seas form one gathering because they are connected, yet many gatherings because they are distinct seas.
- Quotation: Gen 1:9 (LXX, which has both “one gathering” and “their gatherings”).
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.12 (PG 80 80:93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.13PG 80 80:93
Τί δή ποτε τας ουκ ἐδωδίμους βοτάνας βλαστῆσαι προσέταξεν ὁ Θεός; Πολλὰ τῶν ἀλόγων ζώων τὰ γένη· τὰ μὲν θηρία, τὰ δὲ κτήνη προσαγορευόμενα· καὶ τὰ μὲν ἑρπετὰ, τὰ δὲ πτηνά. Τούτοις ἅπασι τροφὴν προηυτρέπισεν ὁ Θεὸς, καὶ ταῦτα δὲ τῆς τῶν ἀνθρώπων ἕνεκα πεποίηκε χρείας. Αὐτίκα γοῦν καὶ δι' ἡμᾶς αὐτά ·φησι διατρέφεσθαι. Τῷ ἐξανατέλλοντι γὰρ, φησί, χόρτον τοῖς κτήνεσι, καὶ χλόην τῇ δουλείᾳ τῶν ἀνθρώπων. Τὸ τοίνυν τούτῳ ἄχρηστον, ἐκείνῳ χρήσιμον, καὶ τὰ τοῖς ἀνθρώποις οὐκ ἀναγκαῖα & τοῖς δι' ἄνθρωπον γεγενημένοις ἁρμόδια. Πρὸς δὲ τούτοις, προορῶν ὁ Κύριος, ὅτι καὶ πάθη προσγενήσεται τοῖς ἀνθρώποις, ἅ τε δὴ διὰ τὴν ἁμαρτίαν δεξαμένοις τοῦ θανάτου τὸν ὄρον, οὐ μόνον ἐδωδίμους, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἀλεξικάκους τῶν παθημάτων βοτάνας βλαστῆσαι τῇ γῇ προσέταξε. Καὶ τοῦτο μάθοι τις ἂν ἀκριβέστερον παρὰ τῶν τὴν ἰατρικὴν ἠσκημένων τέχνην· ὅτι καὶ τὰ δοκοῦντα εἶναι δηλητήρια, παθῶν ἐστιν ἰατήρια κεραννύμενα γὰρ ἑτέραις βοτάναις ἀλεξίκακα γίνεται, καὶ ὑνείας παρεκτικά
Ti dē pote tas ouk edōdimous botanas blastēsai prosetaxen ho Theos? Polla tōn alogōn zōōn ta genē; ta men thēria, ta de ktēnē prosagoreuomena; kai ta men herpeta, ta de ptēna. Toutois hapasi trophēn proēutrepisen ho Theos, kai tauta de tēs tōn anthrōpōn heneka pepoiēke chreias. Autika goun kai di' hēmas auta ;phēsi diatrephesthai. Tǭ exanatellonti gar, phēsi, chorton tois ktēnesi, kai chloēn tę̄ douleią tōn anthrōpōn. To toinyn toutǭ achrēston, ekeinǭ chrēsimon, kai ta tois anthrōpois ouk anankaia & tois di' anthrōpon gegenēmenois harmodia. Pros de toutois, proorōn ho Kyrios, hoti kai pathē prosgenēsetai tois anthrōpois, ha te dē dia tēn hamartian dexamenois tou thanatou ton oron, ou monon edōdimous, alla kai alexikakous tōn pathēmatōn botanas blastēsai tę̄ gę̄ prosetaxe. Kai touto mathoi tis an akribesteron para tōn tēn iatrikēn ēskēmenōn technēn; hoti kai ta dokounta einai dēlētēria, pathōn estin iatēria kerannymena gar heterais botanais alexikaka ginetai, kai hyneias parektika
Why did God command plants that are not edible to spring up? There are many kinds of irrational animals: some are called wild beasts, others cattle; some are creeping things, others winged. For all of these God prepared food beforehand, and these too he made for the use of human beings. Indeed he says that they too are fed for our sake: “who makes grass spring up for the cattle, and green plants for the service of men.” What is useless to one, then, is useful to another, and what is not needed by human beings suits the creatures made for humanity's sake. Besides this, the Lord, foreseeing that sicknesses would also befall human beings, since because of sin they had received the sentence of death, commanded the earth to put forth not only edible plants but also plants that ward off sicknesses. One could learn this more exactly from those trained in the art of medicine: even what seem to be poisons are remedies for sicknesses; for mixed with other herbs they become protective and productive of health.
Ps 104:14 (103:14 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:11–12 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret explains that inedible plants feed animals and supply medicines for the sicknesses that followed sin.
- Quotation: Ps 104:14 (LXX 103:14).
Topics: Creation, Providence
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.13 (PG 80 80:93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.14PG 80 80:93
Τῶν φωστήρων δημιουργηθέντων, τί γέγονε τὸ πρότερον φῶς; Ὁ Δεσπότης Θεὸς καὶ ἐκ μὴ ὄντων ποιεῖ, καὶ ἐξ ὄντων δημιουργεῖ· τὸν μὲν γὰρ πρότερον οὐρανὸν ἐκ μὴ ἄντων ἐδημιούργησε· τὸν δὲ δεύτερον ἐξ ὑδά των ἐποίησεν. Οὕτω τὴν γῆν μὴ οὖσαν παρήγαγεν τὰ γένη δὲ τῶν δένδρων καὶ τῶν σπερμάτων αὐτῇ βλαστῆσαι προσέταξεν. Καὶ τὸ φῶς τοίνυν ἐδημιούργησεν ὡς ἠθέλησεν. Ωσπερ δὲ τῷ στερεώματι διεῖλε τῶν ὑδάτων τὴν φύσιν, καὶ τὰ μὲν ἐπιτέθεικεν ἄνωθεν, τὰ δὲ κάτωθεν καταλέλοιπεν· οὕτως ἐκεῖνο τὸ φῶς διελὼν ὡς ἠθέλησεν, τοὺς φωστῆρας τοὺς μεγάλους καὶ τοὺς μικροὺς κατεσκεύασεν.
Tōn phōstērōn dēmiourgēthentōn, ti gegone to proteron phōs? Ho Despotēs Theos kai ek mē ontōn poiei, kai ex ontōn dēmiourgei; ton men gar proteron ouranon ek mē antōn edēmiourgēse; ton de deuteron ex hyda tōn epoiēsen. Houtō tēn gēn mē ousan parēgagen ta genē de tōn dendrōn kai tōn spermatōn autę̄ blastēsai prosetaxen. Kai to phōs toinyn edēmiourgēsen hōs ēthelēsen. Ōsper de tǭ stereōmati dieile tōn hydatōn tēn physin, kai ta men epitetheiken anōthen, ta de katōthen kataleloipen; houtōs ekeino to phōs dielōn hōs ēthelēsen, tous phōstēras tous megalous kai tous mikrous kateskeuasen.
When the luminaries had been created, what became of the earlier light? God the Master both makes things from what does not exist and creates from what exists. The first heaven he created from nothing; the second he made from waters. So too he brought forth the earth when it did not exist, but commanded it to put forth the kinds of trees and seeds. In the same way he created the light as he willed. And just as by the firmament he divided the nature of the waters, setting some above and leaving some below, so, dividing that light as he willed, he fashioned the luminaries, the great and the small.
Gen 1:14–16 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret explains that God divided the first-created light to form the sun, moon, and stars.
- Allusion: Gen 1:14–16.
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.14 (PG 80 80:93; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.15PG 80 80:95
Τί ἐστι τὸ Εἰς σημεῖα, καὶ εις καιροὺς, καὶ εἰς ἐνιαυτοὺς, καὶ εἰς ἡμέρας Ὁ ἥλιος ἀνίσχων μὲν καὶ δυόμενος τὰς ἡμέρας ποιεῖ· εἰς δὲ τὰ νότια καὶ τὰ βόρεια μέρη διατρέχων, τὸν ἐνιαύσιον κύκλον ἀποτελεῖ. Οὗτος καὶ τὰς τροπὰς ἐργάζεται, ἂς καιροὺς ὠνόμασεν ἡ θεία Γραφή. Ἀπὸ γὰρ τοῦ ἰσημερινοῦ τόπου πρὸς τὰ βόρεια μεταβαίνων, τὸ ἔαρ ποιεῖ· εἶτα ἐκεῖθεν ἐπανιὼν μέχρι τούτων τῶν ὅρων, τὴν θερινὴν κατασκευάζει τροπήν προϊόντος δὲ αὐτοῦ ἐντεῦθεν ἐπὶ τὰ νότια, τὸ μετόπωρον γίνεται· ἐπανιὼν δὲ αὖθις, τὸν χειμῶνα ποιεῖ. Ἐκ δὲ τοῦ δρόμου τῆς σελήνης τὸν τῶν μηνῶν μανθάνομεν ἀριθμόν. Διὰ τριάκοντα γὰρ ἡμερῶν, ἐξ ὡρῶν δεουσῶν, τὸν οἰκεῖον δρό μον πληροί. Οὗ δὴ χάριν τὸν τῶν τοσούτων ἡμερῶν ἀριθμὸν μῆνα προσαγορεύομεν. Ἐπειδὴ καὶ τὴν σε λήνην ὀνομάζουσι μήνην. Τὸ δὲ εἰς σημεῖα, οὐ κατὰ τοὺς ἀνοήτους νοοῦμεν ἡμεῖς. Τῆς γὰρ γενεθλιαλογίας τὴν ματαιολογίαν, οὐδὲ Πυθαγόρας, οὐδὲ Σωκράτης, οὐδὲ Πλάτων, οὐδὲ οἱ Στωϊκοὶ προσεδέξαντο. Εἰ δὲ οἱ τοῖς μύθοις ἐντεθραμμένοι τοῦδε τοῦ μύθου τὸ ἀσεβὲς ἐβδελύξαντο· τίς ἂν τοῖς θείοις πιστεύων λογίοις, τῶν οὐ δυσσεβῶν μόνον, ἀλλὰ καὶ λίαν ἀνοήτων ἀνάσχοιτο λόγων; Σημεῖα τοίνυν ἡ θεία καλεῖ Γραφή, τὸ εἰδέναι σπόρου καιρὸν, τοῦ φυτεῦσαι, τοῦ καθάραι, τοῦ ξύλα τεμεῖν εἰς ναυπηγίαν καὶ οἰκοδομίαν ἐπιτήδεια. Ἐντεῦθεν καὶ οἱ ναυτιλίᾳ χρώμενοι μεμαθήκασι, πότε μὲν ἀπάραι, πότε δὲ καθορμίσαι τὸ σκάφος προσήκει· καὶ πότε μὲν πετάσαι δεῖ τὸ ἱστίον, πότε δὲ καθελεῖν. Ἡ πεῖρα γὰρ αὐτοὺς ἐξεπαίδευσε τὰς τῶν ἀστέρων ἀνατολάς τε καὶ δύσεις· πολλάκις δὲ καὶ ἡμεῖς κομήτην, ἢ πωγωνίτην, ἢ δοκίδην ἰδόντες, ἢ πολεμίων ἔγνωμεν προσβολὴν, ἢ ἀκρίδος ἐμβολὴν, ἢ κτηνῶν ἢ ἀνθρώπων φθοράν. Ταῦτα τοίνυν σημεῖα ἐκάλεσεν, οὐκ ἐκεῖνα τὰ πάσης ἀνοίας καὶ δυσσεβείας μεστά.
Ti esti to Eis sēmeia, kai eis kairous, kai eis eniautous, kai eis hēmeras Ho hēlios anischōn men kai dyomenos tas hēmeras poiei; eis de ta notia kai ta boreia merē diatrechōn, ton eniausion kyklon apotelei. Houtos kai tas tropas ergazetai, as kairous ōnomasen hē theia Graphē. Apo gar tou isēmerinou topou pros ta boreia metabainōn, to ear poiei; eita ekeithen epaniōn mechri toutōn tōn horōn, tēn therinēn kataskeuazei tropēn proïontos de autou enteuthen epi ta notia, to metopōron ginetai; epaniōn de authis, ton cheimōna poiei. Ek de tou dromou tēs selēnēs ton tōn mēnōn manthanomen arithmon. Dia triakonta gar hēmerōn, ex hōrōn deousōn, ton oikeion dro mon plēroi. Hou dē charin ton tōn tosoutōn hēmerōn arithmon mēna prosagoreuomen. Epeidē kai tēn se lēnēn onomazousi mēnēn. To de eis sēmeia, ou kata tous anoētous nooumen hēmeis. Tēs gar genethlialogias tēn mataiologian, oude Pythagoras, oude Sōkratēs, oude Platōn, oude hoi Stōïkoi prosedexanto. Ei de hoi tois mythois entethrammenoi toude tou mythou to asebes ebdelyxanto; tis an tois theiois pisteuōn logiois, tōn ou dyssebōn monon, alla kai lian anoētōn anaschoito logōn? Sēmeia toinyn hē theia kalei Graphē, to eidenai sporou kairon, tou phyteusai, tou katharai, tou xyla temein eis naupēgian kai oikodomian epitēdeia. Enteuthen kai hoi nautilią chrōmenoi memathēkasi, pote men aparai, pote de kathormisai to skaphos prosēkei; kai pote men petasai dei to histion, pote de kathelein. Hē peira gar autous exepaideuse tas tōn asterōn anatolas te kai dyseis; pollakis de kai hēmeis komētēn, ē pōgōnitēn, ē dokidēn idontes, ē polemiōn egnōmen prosbolēn, ē akridos embolēn, ē ktēnōn ē anthrōpōn phthoran. Tauta toinyn sēmeia ekalesen, ouk ekeina ta pasēs anoias kai dyssebeias mesta.
What does “for signs, and for seasons, and for years, and for days” mean? The sun, by rising and setting, makes the days; and by running to the southern and northern regions it completes the yearly cycle. It also produces the turnings, which the divine Scripture called seasons. Passing from the region of the equinox toward the north, it makes spring; then, going on from there up to those limits, it produces the summer solstice; as it proceeds from there toward the south, autumn comes; and returning again, it makes winter. From the course of the moon we learn the number of the months; for it completes its own course in thirty days, less six hours. For this reason we call the number of so many days a month (mēn), since they also call the moon mēnē. But we do not understand “for signs” as the senseless do. For not even Pythagoras, nor Socrates, nor Plato, nor the Stoics accepted the idle talk of casting nativities. If those brought up on myths loathed the impiety of this myth, who that believes the divine oracles would put up with words that are not only impious but utterly senseless? By signs, then, the divine Scripture means knowing the time for sowing, for planting, for pruning, and for cutting wood fit for shipbuilding and house building. From this too seafarers have learned when they should set sail and when bring the vessel into harbor, when they must spread the sail and when take it down; for experience has taught them the risings and settings of the stars. And often we too, on seeing a comet, or a bearded star, or a beam-shaped meteor, have recognized an attack of enemies, or an invasion of locusts, or a destruction of cattle or of men. These, then, it called signs, not those things full of every folly and impiety.
Gen 1:14 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Theodoret explains the sun and moon as measures of days, seasons, years, and months, and takes the “signs” as practical indications for farming and sailing, rejecting astrology.
- Quotation: Gen 1:14. Theodoret's rejection of astrology (γενεθλιαλογία, the casting of nativities) appeals even to pagan philosophers; his view that comets may portend events is stated as he gives it.
Topics: Creation, Magic, divination, and astrology, Providence
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.15 (PG 80 80:95; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.16PG 80 80:95
Τί δή ποτε τὰ μὲν φυτὰ πρὸ τῶν φωστήρων ἐποίησε, τὰ δὲ ζῶα μετὰ τούτους; Ὀφθαλμοὺς ἔχει τὰ ζῶα, καὶ τοῦ φωτὸς τὴν ὑπερβολὴν οὐκ ἂν ἤνεγκε. Τοῦτο δὲ διανεμηθὲν εἰς τοὺς μικροὺς καὶ μεγάλους φωστῆρας σύμμετρον τῇ ὅψει τῶν ζώων ἀφίησιν αἴγλην. Τῶν δὲ φυτῶν ἡ φύσις αἰσθήσεως ἄμοιρος.
Ti dē pote ta men phyta pro tōn phōstērōn epoiēse, ta de zōa meta toutous? Ophthalmous echei ta zōa, kai tou phōtos tēn hyperbolēn ouk an ēnenke. Touto de dianemēthen eis tous mikrous kai megalous phōstēras symmetron tę̄ hopsei tōn zōōn aphiēsin aiglēn. Tōn de phytōn hē physis aisthēseōs amoiros.
Why did he make the plants before the luminaries, and the animals after them? Animals have eyes, and would not have borne the excess of the light. But this light, divided among the small and great luminaries, sends out a brightness proportioned to the sight of animals. The nature of plants has no share in sensation.
Gen 1:11–25 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Plants could be made before the luminaries, but animals with eyes needed the light first distributed among them.
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.16 (PG 80 80:95; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.
1.17PG 80 80:97
Τίνος χάριν τὰ μεν φυτὰ οὐκ ηὐλόγησε, τοῖς δὲ ζώοις ἔφη - Αὐξάνεσθε, καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς; Τῶν λειμώνων, καὶ τῶν ληΐων, καὶ παντοδαπῶν βοτανῶν καὶ δένδρων εὐθὺς ἐθελήσας τὴν γῆν ἐπλήρωσεν ἅπασαν τὰ δέ γε ἄλογα ζῶα ἀνὰ δύο παρήγαγεν. Εἰκότως τοίνυν αὐτοῖς τὴν εὐλογίαν προσήνεγκεν ἵνα διὰ τῆς πολυγονίας τὰ μὲν πελάγη, καὶ λίμνας, καὶ ποταμοὺς, τὰ δὲ τὸν ἀέρα, τὰ δὲ πληρώσῃ τὴν γῆν.
Tinos charin ta men phyta ouk ēulogēse, tois de zōois ephē - Auxanesthe, kai ta hexēs? Tōn leimōnōn, kai tōn lēïōn, kai pantodapōn botanōn kai dendrōn euthys ethelēsas tēn gēn eplērōsen hapasan ta de ge aloga zōa ana dyo parēgagen. Eikotōs toinyn autois tēn eulogian prosēnenken hina dia tēs polygonias ta men pelagē, kai limnas, kai potamous, ta de ton aera, ta de plērōsę̄ tēn gēn.
Why did he not bless the plants, but said to the animals, “Increase,” and so on? By his will he filled the whole earth at once with meadows and crops and plants and trees of every kind; but the irrational animals he brought forth two by two. Fittingly, then, he gave them the blessing, so that through their fruitfulness some might fill the seas and lakes and rivers, others the air, and others the earth.
Gen 1:22 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Animals received a blessing of fruitfulness because they were created in pairs, while plants filled the earth at once.
- Quotation: Gen 1:22. That the animals were created in pairs is Theodoret's assumption.
Topics: Creation
Cite (SBL): Theodoret, Quaest. Oct. 1.17 (PG 80 80:97; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/theodoret-quaestiones-octateuchum/1-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Greek as printed in Migne PG 80 (Bavarian State Library OCR); no public-domain or FOTC English exists, so each batch was re-read against the Greek.