Against Celsus 2.17–2.33

Greek text: Koetschau, GCS 2–3 (Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885).

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Chapter 2

2.17Koetschau 1:146–147

Σφόδρα δὲ μωρὸν καὶ τό· τίς ἂν ἢ θεὸς ἢ δαίμων ἢ ἄνθρωπος φρόνιμος προειδὼς αὐτῷ τοιαῦτα συμβησόμενα οὐκ ἂν. εἴ γε ἐδύνατο, ἐξέκλινεν ἀλλὰ συνέπιπτεν οἷς προηπίστατο; καὶ Σωκράτης γοῦν ᾔδει τὸ κώνειον πιόμενος καὶ τεθνηξόμενος καὶ ἐδύνατο, εἴπερ ἐπείσθη τῷ Κρίτωνι, ὑπεξελθὼν τὴν φυλακὴν μηδὲν τούτων παθεῖν, ἀλλʼ εἵλετο κατὰ τὸ φαινόμενον αὐτῷ εὔλογον κρεῖττον αὐτῷ εἶναι φιλοσόφως ἀποθανεῖν ἢ ἀφιλοσόφως ζῆν. ἀλλὰ καὶ Λεωνίδας ὁ Λακεδαιμονίων στρατηγὸς εἰδὼς ὅσον οὐδέπω τεθνηξόμενος μετὰ τῶν ἐν Θερμοπύλαις οὐκ ἐπραγματεύσατο τὸ ζῆσαι αἰσχρῶς, ἀλλʼ εἶπε τοῖς σὺν αὐτῷ· „ἀριστήσωμεν ὡς ἐν ᾅδου δειπνοποιησόμενοι.“ οἷς δὲ μέλει ἱστορίας τοιαύτας συναγαγεῖν πολλὰ εὑρήσουσι. καὶ τί θαυμαστὸν, εἰ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἐπιστάμενος τὰ συμβησόμενα οὐκ ἐξέκλινεν ἀλλὰ περιέπιπτεν οἷς καὶ προηπίστατο; ὅπου καὶ Παῦλος ὁ μαθητὴς αὐτοῦ ἀκούσας τὰ συμβησόμενα αὐτῷ ἀναβάντι εἰς Ἱεροσόλυμα ὁμόσε τοῖς κινδύνοις ἐχώρησεν, ἐπιπλήσσων καὶ τοῖς δεδακρυμένοις περὶ αὐτὸν καὶ κωλύουσιν ἀναβῆναι εἰς τὰ Ἱεροσόλυμα. πολλοὶ δὲ καὶ τῶν καθʼ ἡμᾶς ἐπιστάμενοι, ὡς ὁμολογήσαντες μὲν χριστιανισμὸν ἀποθανοῦνται ἀρνησάμενοι δὲ ἀπολυθήσονται καὶ τὰ ὑπάρχοντα ἀπολήψονται, κατεφρόνησαν μὲν τοῦ βίου ἑκουσίως δὲ τὸν ὑπὲρ εὐσεβείας θάνατον εἵλοντο.

Sphodra de mōron kai to; tis an ē theos ē daimōn ē anthrōpos phronimos proeidōs autǭ toiauta symbēsomena ouk an. ei ge edynato, exeklinen alla synepipten hois proēpistato? kai Sōkratēs goun ę̄dei to kōneion piomenos kai tethnēxomenos kai edynato, eiper epeisthē tǭ Kritōni, hypexelthōn tēn phylakēn mēden toutōn pathein, allʼ heileto kata to phainomenon autǭ eulogon kreitton autǭ einai philosophōs apothanein ē aphilosophōs zēn. alla kai Leōnidas ho Lakedaimoniōn stratēgos eidōs hoson oudepō tethnēxomenos meta tōn en Thermopylais ouk epragmateusato to zēsai aischrōs, allʼ eipe tois syn autǭ; „aristēsōmen hōs en hądou deipnopoiēsomenoi.“ hois de melei historias toiautas synagagein polla heurēsousi. kai ti thaumaston, ei ho Iēsous epistamenos ta symbēsomena ouk exeklinen alla periepipten hois kai proēpistato? hopou kai Paulos ho mathētēs autou akousas ta symbēsomena autǭ anabanti eis Hierosolyma homose tois kindynois echōrēsen, epiplēssōn kai tois dedakrymenois peri auton kai kōlyousin anabēnai eis ta Hierosolyma. polloi de kai tōn kathʼ hēmas epistamenoi, hōs homologēsantes men christianismon apothanountai arnēsamenoi de apolythēsontai kai ta hyparchonta apolēpsontai, katephronēsan men tou biou hekousiōs de ton hyper eusebeias thanaton heilonto.

Very stupid too is this: “What god, or daemon, or sensible man, foreseeing that such things would happen to him, would not avoid them if he could, instead of falling into what he knew beforehand?” Socrates, at any rate, knew that he would drink the hemlock and die, and he could, if he had listened to Crito, have escaped from prison and suffered none of these things; but he chose, according to what seemed reasonable to him, that it was better for him to die as a philosopher than to live unworthy of philosophy. Leonidas too, the general of the Lacedaemonians, knowing that he was about to die with those at Thermopylae, did not contrive to live shamefully, but said to those with him: “Let us breakfast as men who will dine in Hades.” Those who care to collect such stories will find many. What wonder, then, if Jesus, knowing what would happen, did not avoid it but met what he also knew beforehand? When Paul too, his disciple, heard what would happen to him if he went up to Jerusalem, he went to meet the dangers, rebuking those who wept around him and tried to keep him from going up to Jerusalem. And many in our own time, knowing that if they confessed Christianity they would die, but if they denied it they would be released and recover their property, have despised life and willingly chosen death for the sake of piety.

Acts 21:13 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Like Socrates, Leonidas, Paul, and many Christian martyrs, Jesus knowingly went to meet the death he foresaw rather than avoiding it.

  • Socrates and Crito: Plato, Crito. The saying of Leonidas is reported by Plutarch (Sayings of Spartans) and Diodorus. Paul's journey: Acts 21:10–14.

Topics: Martyrdom, Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.17 (Koetschau 1:146–147; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-17).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.18Koetschau 1:147

Ἑξῆς δὲ τούτῳ καὶ ἄλλο εὔηθές φησιν ὁ παρὰ τῷ Κέλσῳ Ἰουδαῖος, ὅτι πῶς, εἴπερ προεῖπε καὶ τὸν προδώσοντα καὶ τὸν ἀρνησόμενον, οὐκ ἂν ὡς θεὸν ἐφοβήθησαν, ὡς τὸν μὲν μὴ προδοῦναι ἔτι τὸν δὲ μὴ ἀρνήσασθαι; καὶ οὐκ εἶδέ γε ὁ σοφώτατος Κέλσος ἐν τῷ τόπῳ τὴν μάχην, ὅτι εἰ μὲν ὡς θεὸς προέγνω καὶ οὐχ οἷόν τε ἦν αὐτοῦ τὴν πρόγνωσιν ψεύσασθαι, οὐχ οἷόν τε ἦν οὔτε τὸν ἐγνωσμένον ὡς προδώσοντα μὴ προδοῦναι οὔτε τὸν ἐλεγχθέντα ἀρνησόμενον μὴ ἀρνήσασθαι· εἰ δʼ οἷόν τʼ ἦν τόνδε μὲν μὴ προδώσειν τόνδε δὲ μὴ ἀρνήσασθαι, ὡς καὶ γενέσθαι ἂν τὸ μὴ προδοῦναι καὶ τὸ μὴ ἀρνήσασθαι ἐν τοῖς ταῦτα προμεμαθηκόσιν, οὐκέτι ἀληθὴς ἦν ὁ λέγων ὅτι ὅδε μὲν προδώσει ὅδε δὲ ἀρνήσεται. καὶ γὰρ εἰ προέγνω προδώσοντα, τὴν πονηρίαν εἶδεν, ἀφʼ ἧς προδώσει, ἥτις οὐ πάντως ἐκ τῆς προγνώσεως ἀνετέτραπτο. πάλιν τε αὖ εἰ κατείληφε τὸν ἀρνησόμενον τὴν ἀσθένειαν ἰδὼν, ἀφʼ ἧς ἀρνήσεται, προεῖπεν ὅτι ἀρνήσεται· ἡ δʼ ἀσθένεια οὐκ ἔμελλεν ἀνατρέπεσθαι οὕτως ἀθρόως ἀπὸ τῆς προγνώσεως. πόθεν δὲ καὶ τό· ἀλλʼ αὐτοὶ προέδωκάν τε καὶ ἠρνήσαντο μηδὲν αὐτοῦ φροντίσαντες; ἐδείχθη γὰρ περὶ μὲν τοῦ προδόντος ὅτι ψεῦδος τὸ μηδαμῶς αὐτὸν πεφροντικότα τοῦ διδασκάλου προδεδωκέναι· οὐδὲν δʼ ἧττον καὶ περὶ τοῦ ἀρνησαμένου τοῦτο δείκνυται, ὃς „ἐξελθὼν ἔξω“ μετὰ τὸ ἀρνήσασθαι „ἔκλαυσε πικρῶς.“

Hexēs de toutǭ kai allo euēthes phēsin ho para tǭ Kelsǭ Ioudaios, hoti pōs, eiper proeipe kai ton prodōsonta kai ton arnēsomenon, ouk an hōs theon ephobēthēsan, hōs ton men mē prodounai eti ton de mē arnēsasthai? kai ouk eide ge ho sophōtatos Kelsos en tǭ topǭ tēn machēn, hoti ei men hōs theos proegnō kai ouch hoion te ēn autou tēn prognōsin pseusasthai, ouch hoion te ēn oute ton egnōsmenon hōs prodōsonta mē prodounai oute ton elenchthenta arnēsomenon mē arnēsasthai; ei dʼ hoion tʼ ēn tonde men mē prodōsein tonde de mē arnēsasthai, hōs kai genesthai an to mē prodounai kai to mē arnēsasthai en tois tauta promemathēkosin, ouketi alēthēs ēn ho legōn hoti hode men prodōsei hode de arnēsetai. kai gar ei proegnō prodōsonta, tēn ponērian eiden, aphʼ hēs prodōsei, hētis ou pantōs ek tēs prognōseōs anetetrapto. palin te au ei kateilēphe ton arnēsomenon tēn astheneian idōn, aphʼ hēs arnēsetai, proeipen hoti arnēsetai; hē dʼ astheneia ouk emellen anatrepesthai houtōs athroōs apo tēs prognōseōs. pothen de kai to; allʼ autoi proedōkan te kai ērnēsanto mēden autou phrontisantes? edeichthē gar peri men tou prodontos hoti pseudos to mēdamōs auton pephrontikota tou didaskalou prodedōkenai; ouden dʼ hētton kai peri tou arnēsamenou touto deiknytai, hos „exelthōn exō“ meta to arnēsasthai „eklause pikrōs.“

Next the Jew in Celsus says something else foolish: “How, if he foretold both who would betray him and who would deny him, did they not fear him as a god, so that the one would no longer betray him and the other would not deny him?” The most wise Celsus did not see the contradiction in this passage. If he foreknew as God, and his foreknowledge could not prove false, then it was impossible for the one known as the future betrayer not to betray, or for the one shown to be the future denier not to deny. But if it was possible for this one not to betray and that one not to deny, so that not betraying and not denying could have happened among those who had learned of it in advance, then the one who said, “This one will betray and that one will deny,” was no longer truthful. For if he foreknew the betrayer, he saw the wickedness from which he would betray, and that wickedness was by no means overturned by the foreknowledge. Again, if he recognized the one who would deny, seeing the weakness from which he would deny, he foretold that he would deny; and that weakness was not going to be overturned so suddenly by the foreknowledge. And where does he get this: “But they betrayed and denied him without caring for him at all”? For it has been shown about the betrayer that it is false that he betrayed his teacher without caring for him at all; and this is shown no less about the one who denied, who “went out” after denying and “wept bitterly.”

Matt 26:75 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 22:62 (quotation, medium confidence)

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Summary: Origen argues that if Jesus truly foreknew the betrayal and denial, they had to happen, and that neither Judas nor Peter acted with complete indifference to him.

  • The quotation is Matt 26:75 (also Luke 22:62).

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.18 (Koetschau 1:147; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-18).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.19Koetschau 1:147–148

Ἐπιπόλαιον δὲ καὶ τό· ἤδη γάρ που καὶ ἄνθρωπος ἐπιβουλευόμενός τε καὶ προαισθόμενος ἐὰν προείπῃ τοῖς ἐπιβουλεύουσιν, ἀποτρέπονται καὶ φυλάσσονται· πολλοὶ γὰρ καὶ προαισθομένοις τοῖς ἐπιβουλευομένοις ἐπεβούλευσαν. ἑξῆς ὡσπερεὶ τὸ συμπέρασμα ἐπάγων τῷ λόγῳ φησίν· οὔκουν ἐπειδὴ προείρητο ταῦτα, γέγονεν, ἀδύνατον γάρ· ἀλλʼ ἐπειδὴ γέγονε, ψεῦδος ἐλέγχεται τὸ προειρηκέναι· πάντῃ γὰρ ἀμήχανον τοὺς προακούσαντας ἔτι προδοῦναι καὶ ἀρνήσασθαι. ἀνατραπεῖσι δὲ τοῖς προειρημένοις συνανετράπη καὶ τὸ συμπέρασμα τό· (οὐκ) ἐπεὶ προείρητο ταῦτα, γέγονε. φαμὲν δʼ ὅτι καὶ γέγονεν, ὡς δυνατὸν, καὶ ἐπεὶ γέγονεν. ἀληθὲς δείκνυται τὸ προειρηκέναι· τὸ γὰρ περὶ μελλόντων ἀληθὲς ταῖς ἐκβάσεσι κρίνεται. ψεῦδος οὖν τὸ ὑπʼ αὐτοῦ οὕτως εἰρημένον. ὅτι ψεῦδος ἐλέγχεται τὸ προειρηκέναι, καὶ μάτην λέλεκται τῷ Κέλσῳ τό· πάντῃ γὰρ ἀμήχανον τοὺς προακούσαντας ἔτι προδοῦναι καὶ ἀρνήσασθαι.

Epipolaion de kai to; ēdē gar pou kai anthrōpos epibouleuomenos te kai proaisthomenos ean proeipę̄ tois epibouleuousin, apotrepontai kai phylassontai; polloi gar kai proaisthomenois tois epibouleuomenois epebouleusan. hexēs hōsperei to symperasma epagōn tǭ logǭ phēsin; oukoun epeidē proeirēto tauta, gegonen, adynaton gar; allʼ epeidē gegone, pseudos elenchetai to proeirēkenai; pantę̄ gar amēchanon tous proakousantas eti prodounai kai arnēsasthai. anatrapeisi de tois proeirēmenois synanetrapē kai to symperasma to; (ouk) epei proeirēto tauta, gegone. phamen dʼ hoti kai gegonen, hōs dynaton, kai epei gegonen. alēthes deiknytai to proeirēkenai; to gar peri mellontōn alēthes tais ekbasesi krinetai. pseudos oun to hypʼ autou houtōs eirēmenon. hoti pseudos elenchetai to proeirēkenai, kai matēn lelektai tǭ Kelsǭ to; pantę̄ gar amēchanon tous proakousantas eti prodounai kai arnēsasthai.

Superficial too is this: “For already, surely, even a man who is plotted against, if he learns of it beforehand and tells the plotters in advance, turns them back and puts them on their guard.” For many have plotted against people who knew of it beforehand. Next, as if drawing the conclusion of his argument, he says: “So these things did not happen because they had been foretold, for that is impossible; but since they happened, the claim that they were foretold is proved false. For it is utterly impossible that those who heard it beforehand should still betray and deny.” Now that his premises have been overturned, the conclusion too is overturned with them: “(Not) because these things were foretold did they happen.” We say that they both happened, since it was possible, and that because they happened the foretelling is shown to be true; for what is said about the future is judged true by the outcome. His statement, then, is false: that the foretelling is proved false. And Celsus's words, “For it is utterly impossible that those who heard it beforehand should still betray and deny,” were said in vain.

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Summary: Origen rejects Celsus's argument that the betrayal and denial could not have been foretold, since a prediction is shown true by its fulfilment.

  • The bracketed “(not)” is the editor's supplement. The sentence introduced by φαμὲν (“we say”) is compressed in the Greek; the sense is that the events both happened and prove the prediction true.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing accent and breathing in the digital text): φαμὲν δʼ οτι → φαμὲν δʼ ὅτι.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.19 (Koetschau 1:147–148; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-19).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.20Koetschau 1:148–151

Μετὰ ταῦτα ἴδωμεν, πῶς λέγει· ταῦτα θεὸς, φησὶν, ὢν προεῖπε, καὶ πάντως ἐχρῆν γενέσθαι τὸ προειρημένον. θεὸς οὖν τοὺς αὑτοῦ μαθητὰς καὶ προφήτας. μεθʼ ὧν συνεδείπνει καὶ συνέπινεν, εἰς τοῦτο περιήγαγεν. ὥστε ἀσεβεῖς καὶ ἀνοσίους γενέσθαι, ὃν ἐχρῆν μάλιστα πάντας ἀνθρώπους εὐεργετεῖν, διαφερόντως δὲ τοὺς ἑαυτοῦ συνεστίους. ἢ ἀνθρώπῳ μὲν ὁ κοινωνήσας τραπέζης οὐκ ἂν ἔτι ἐπεβούλευσε, θεῷ δὲ συνευωχηθεὶς ἐπίβουλος ἐγίνετο; καὶ ὅπερ ἔτι ἀτοπώτερον, αὐτὸς ὁ θεὸς τοῖς συντραπέζοις ἐπεβούλευσε, προδότας καὶ δυσσεβεῖς ποιῶν. καὶ πρὸς ταῦτα δὲ, ἐπεὶ βούλει καὶ τοῖς ἐμοὶ φαινομένοις εὐτελέσι τοῦ Κέλσου ἐπιχειρήμασιν ἀπαντᾶν, τοιαῦτα φήσομεν. ὁ μὲν Κέλσος οἴεται διὰ τοῦτο γίνεσθαι τὸ ὑπό τινος προγνώσεως θεσπισθὲν, ἐπεὶ ἐθεσπίσθη· ἡμεῖς δὲ τοῦτο οὐ διδόντες φαμὲν οὐχὶ τὸν θεσπίσαντα αἴτιον εἶναι τοῦ ἐσομένου, ἐπεὶ προεῖπεν αὐτὸ γενησόμενον, ἀλλὰ τὸ ἐσόμενον, ἐσόμενον ἂν καὶ μὴ θεσπισθὲν, τὴν αἰτίαν τῷ προγινώσκοντι παρεσχηκέναι τοῦ αὐτὸ προειπεῖν. καὶ ὅλον γε τοῦτο ἐν τῇ προγνώσει τοῦ θεσπίζοντος αὐτὸ τυγχάνει· δυνατοῦ (δὲ) ὄντος τοῦδέ τινος γενέσθαι δυνατοῦ δὲ καὶ μὴ γενέσθαι, ἔσται τὸ ἕτερον αὐτῶν τόδε τι. καὶ οὔ φαμεν ὅτι ὁ προγινώσκων, ὑφελὼν τὸ δυνατὸν εἶναι γενέσθαι καὶ μὴ γενέσθαι, οἱονεὶ τοιοῦτόν τι λέγει· τόδε πάντως ἔσται, καὶ ἀδύνατον ἑτέρως γενέσθαι. καὶ τὸ τοιοῦτο φθάνει ἐπὶ πᾶσαν τὴν περὶ τοῦ ἐφʼ ἡμῖν τινος πρόγνωσιν, εἴτε κατὰ τὰς θείας γραφὰς εἴτε κατὰ τὰς Ἑλλήνων ἱστορίας. καὶ ὁ καλούμενός γε παρὰ τοῖς διαλεκτικοῖς ἀργὸς λόγος, σόφισμα τυγχάνων. οὐκ ἔσται μὲν σόφισμα ὅσον ἐπὶ τῷ Κέλσῳ κατὰ δὲ τὸν ὑγιῆ λόγον σόφισμά ἐστιν. ἵνα δὲ τὸ τοιοῦτο νοηθῇ, ἀπὸ μὲν τῆς γραφῆς χρήσομαι ταῖς περὶ (τοῦ) Ἰούδα προφητείαις ἢ τῇ τοῦ σωτῆρος ἡμῶν περὶ αὐτοῦ ὡς προδώσοντος προγνώσει· ἀπὸ δὲ τῶν Ἑλληνικῶν ἱστοριῶν τῷ πρὸς τὸν Λάϊον χρησμῷ, συγχωρῶν ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος εἶναι αὐτὸν ἀληθῆ, ἐπεὶ μὴ λυπεῖ τὸν λόγον. περὶ τοῦ Ἰούδα τοίνυν ἐν ἑκατοστῷ καὶ ὀγδόῳ λέγεται ἐκ προσώπου τοῦ σωτῆρος ψαλμῷ, οὗ ἡ ἀρχή· „ὁ θεὸς, τὴν αἴνεσίν μου μὴ παρασιωπήσῃς· ὅτι στόμα ἁμαρτωλοῦ καὶ στόμα δολίου ἐπʼ ἐμὲ ἠνοίχθη.“ καὶ τηρήσας γε τὰ ἐν τῷ ψαλμῷ γεγραμμένα εὑρήσεις ὅτι, ὡς προέγνωσται προδώσων τὸν σωτῆρα, οὕτως καὶ αἴτιος ὢν τῆς προδοσίας καὶ ἄξιος τῶν ἐν τῇ προφητείᾳ λεγομένων διὰ τὴν κακίαν αὐτοῦ ἀρῶν. τάδε γὰρ παθέτω „ἀνθʼ ὧν, φησὶν, οὐκ ἐμνήσθη τοῦ ποιῆσαι ἔλεος καὶ κατεδίωξεν ἄνθρωπον πένητα καὶ πτωχόν.“ οὐκοῦν ἐδύνατο μνησθῆναι „τοῦ ποιῆσαι ἔλεος“ καὶ μὴ καταδιῶξαι ὃν κατεδίωξε· δυνάμενος δὲ οὐ πεποίηκεν ἀλλὰ προέδωκεν, ὥστε ἄξιος εἶναι τῶν ἐν τῇ προφητείᾳ κατʼ αὐτοῦ ἀρῶν. καὶ πρὸς Ἕλληνας δὲ χρησόμεθα τῷ εἰρημένῳ τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον πρὸς τὸν Λάϊον, εἴτε αὐταῖς λέξεσιν εἴτε τὸ ἰσοδυναμοῦν αὐταῖς ἀναγράψαντος τοῦ τραγικοῦ. λέγεται τοίνυν πρὸς αὐτὸν ἀπὸ τοῦ προεγνωκότος δὴ τὰ ἐσόμενα· μὴ σπεῖρε παίδων ἄλοκα δαιμόνων βίᾳ· εἰ γὰρ τεκνώσεις παῖδʼ, ἀποκτενεῖ σʼ ὁ φύς, καὶ πᾶς σὸς οἶκος βήσεται διʼ αἱμάτων. καὶ ἐν τούτῳ τοίνυν (σαφῶς) δηλοῦται ὅτι δυνατὸν μὲν ἦν τῷ Λαΐῳ μὴ σπείρειν „παίδων ἄλοκα“· οὐκ ἂν γὰρ τὸ μὴ δυνατὸν προσέταξεν αὐτῷ ὁ χρησμός· δυνατὸν δὲ ἦν καὶ τὸ σπείρειν, καὶ οὐδέτερον αὐτῶν κατηνάγκαστο. ἠκολούθησε δὲ τῷ μὴ φυλαξαμένῳ σπεῖραι „παίδων ἄλοκα“ παθεῖν ἐκ τοῦ ἐσπαρκέναι τὰ τῆς κατὰ Οἰδίποδα καὶ Ἰοκάστην καὶ τοὺς υἱοὺς τραγῳδίας. ἀλλὰ καὶ ὁ ἀργὸς καλούμενος λόγος, σόφισμα ὢν, τοιοῦτός ἐστι λεγόμενος ἐπὶ ὑποθέσεως πρὸς τὸν νοσοῦντα καὶ ὡς σόφισμα ἀποτρέπων αὐτὸν χρῆσθαι τῷ ἰατρῷ πρὸς ὑγίειαν, καὶ ἔχει γε οὕτως ὁ λόγος· εἰ εἵμαρταί σοι ἀναστῆναι ἐκ τῆς νόσου, ἐάν τε εἰσαγάγῃς τὸν ἰατρὸν ἐάν τε μὴ εἰσαγάγῃς, ἀναστήσῃ· ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰ εἵμαρταί σοι μὴ ἀναστῆναι ἐκ τῆς νόσου, ἐάν τε εἰσαγάγῃς τὸν ἰατρὸν ἐάν τε μὴ εἰσαγάγῃς, οὐκ ἀναστήσῃ· ἤτοι δὲ εἵμαρταί σοι ἀναστῆναι ἐκ τῆς νόσου ἢ εἵμαρταί σοι μὴ ἀναστῆναι· μάτην ἄρα εἰσάγεις τὸν ἰατρόν. ἀλλὰ χαριέντως τούτῳ τῷ λόγῳ τοιοῦτόν τι ἀντιπαραβάλλεται· εἰ εἵμαρταί σοι τεκνοποιῆσαι, ἐάν τε συνέλθῃς γυναικὶ ἐάν τε μὴ συνέλθῃς, τεκνοποιήσεις· ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰ εἵμαρταί σοι μὴ τεκνοποιῆσαι, ἐάν τε συνέλθῃς γυναικὶ ἢ μὴ συνέλθῃς, οὐ τεκνοποιήσεις· ἤτοι δὲ εἵμαρταί σοι τεκνοποιῆσαι ἢ μὴ τεκνοποιῆσαι· μάτην ἄρα συνέρχῃ γυναικί. ὡς γὰρ ἐπὶ τούτου, ἐπεὶ ἀμήχανον καὶ ἀδύνατον τεκνοποιῆσαι τὸν μὴ συνελθόντα γυναικὶ, οὐ μάτην παραλαμβάνεται τὸ συνελθεῖν γυναικί· οὕτως εἰ τὸ ἀναστῆναι ἐκ τῆς νόσου ὁδῷ τῇ ἀπὸ ἰατρικῆς γίνεται, ἀναγκαίως παραλαμβάνεται ὁ ἰατρὸς, καὶ ψεῦδος τὸ „μάτην εἰσάγεις τὸν ἰατρόν.“ ὅλα δὲ ταῦτα παρειλήφαμεν διʼ ἃ παρέθετο ὁ σοφώτατος Κέλσος εἰπών· θεὸς ὢν προεῖπε, καὶ πάντως ἐχρῆν γενέσθαι τὸ προειρημένον. εἰ γὰρ τοῦ πάντως ἀκούει ἀντὶ τοῦ κατηναγκασμένως, οὐ δώσομεν αὐτῷ· δυνατὸν γὰρ ἦν καὶ μὴ γενέσθαι. εἰ δὲ τὸ πάντως λέγει ἀντὶ τοῦ ἔσται. ὅπερ οὐ κωλύεται εἶναι ἀληθὲς. κἂν δυνατὸν ᾖ τὸ μὴ γενέσθαι. οὐδὲν λυπεῖ τὸν λόγον· οὐδὲ (γὰρ) ἠκολούθει τῷ προειρηκέναι τὸν Ἰησοῦν (ἀληθῶς) τὰ περὶ τοῦ προδότου ἢ τὰ περὶ τοῦ ἀρνησαμένου τὸ αὐτὸν αὐτοῖς αἴτιον γενέσθαι ἀσεβείας καὶ ἀνοσίου πράξεως. ἰδὼν γὰρ αὐτοῦ τὸ μοχθηρὸν ἦθος ὁ καθʼ ἡμᾶς γινώσκων, „τί ἦν ἐν τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ, “ καὶ ὁρῶν ἃ τολμήσει ἔκ τε τοῦ φιλάργυρος εἶναι καὶ ἐκ τοῦ μὴ βεβαίως περὶ τοῦ διδασκάλου φρονεῖν ἃ ἐχρῆν εἶπε μετὰ πολλῶν καὶ τό· „ὁ ἐμβάψας μετʼ ἐμοῦ τὴν χεῖρα εἰς τὸ τρυβλίον. ἐκεῖνός με παραδώσει.“

Meta tauta idōmen, pōs legei; tauta theos, phēsin, ōn proeipe, kai pantōs echrēn genesthai to proeirēmenon. theos oun tous hautou mathētas kai prophētas. methʼ hōn synedeipnei kai synepinen, eis touto periēgagen. hōste asebeis kai anosious genesthai, hon echrēn malista pantas anthrōpous euergetein, diapherontōs de tous heautou synestious. ē anthrōpǭ men ho koinōnēsas trapezēs ouk an eti epebouleuse, theǭ de syneuōchētheis epiboulos egineto? kai hoper eti atopōteron, autos ho theos tois syntrapezois epebouleuse, prodotas kai dyssebeis poiōn. kai pros tauta de, epei boulei kai tois emoi phainomenois eutelesi tou Kelsou epicheirēmasin apantan, toiauta phēsomen. ho men Kelsos oietai dia touto ginesthai to hypo tinos prognōseōs thespisthen, epei ethespisthē; hēmeis de touto ou didontes phamen ouchi ton thespisanta aition einai tou esomenou, epei proeipen auto genēsomenon, alla to esomenon, esomenon an kai mē thespisthen, tēn aitian tǭ proginōskonti pareschēkenai tou auto proeipein. kai holon ge touto en tę̄ prognōsei tou thespizontos auto tynchanei; dynatou (de) ontos toude tinos genesthai dynatou de kai mē genesthai, estai to heteron autōn tode ti. kai ou phamen hoti ho proginōskōn, hyphelōn to dynaton einai genesthai kai mē genesthai, hoionei toiouton ti legei; tode pantōs estai, kai adynaton heterōs genesthai. kai to toiouto phthanei epi pasan tēn peri tou ephʼ hēmin tinos prognōsin, eite kata tas theias graphas eite kata tas Hellēnōn historias. kai ho kaloumenos ge para tois dialektikois argos logos, sophisma tynchanōn. ouk estai men sophisma hoson epi tǭ Kelsǭ kata de ton hygiē logon sophisma estin. hina de to toiouto noēthę̄, apo men tēs graphēs chrēsomai tais peri (tou) Iouda prophēteiais ē tę̄ tou sōtēros hēmōn peri autou hōs prodōsontos prognōsei; apo de tōn Hellēnikōn historiōn tǭ pros ton Laïon chrēsmǭ, synchōrōn epi tou parontos einai auton alēthē, epei mē lypei ton logon. peri tou Iouda toinyn en hekatostǭ kai ogdoǭ legetai ek prosōpou tou sōtēros psalmǭ, hou hē archē; „ho theos, tēn ainesin mou mē parasiōpēsę̄s; hoti stoma hamartōlou kai stoma doliou epʼ eme ēnoichthē.“ kai tērēsas ge ta en tǭ psalmǭ gegrammena heurēseis hoti, hōs proegnōstai prodōsōn ton sōtēra, houtōs kai aitios ōn tēs prodosias kai axios tōn en tę̄ prophēteią legomenōn dia tēn kakian autou arōn. tade gar pathetō „anthʼ hōn, phēsin, ouk emnēsthē tou poiēsai eleos kai katediōxen anthrōpon penēta kai ptōchon.“ oukoun edynato mnēsthēnai „tou poiēsai eleos“ kai mē katadiōxai hon katediōxe; dynamenos de ou pepoiēken alla proedōken, hōste axios einai tōn en tę̄ prophēteią katʼ autou arōn. kai pros Hellēnas de chrēsometha tǭ eirēmenǭ touton ton tropon pros ton Laïon, eite autais lexesin eite to isodynamoun autais anagrapsantos tou tragikou. legetai toinyn pros auton apo tou proegnōkotos dē ta esomena; mē speire paidōn aloka daimonōn bią; ei gar teknōseis paidʼ, apoktenei sʼ ho phys, kai pas sos oikos bēsetai diʼ haimatōn. kai en toutǭ toinyn (saphōs) dēloutai hoti dynaton men ēn tǭ Laïǭ mē speirein „paidōn aloka“; ouk an gar to mē dynaton prosetaxen autǭ ho chrēsmos; dynaton de ēn kai to speirein, kai oudeteron autōn katēnankasto. ēkolouthēse de tǭ mē phylaxamenǭ speirai „paidōn aloka“ pathein ek tou esparkenai ta tēs kata Oidipoda kai Iokastēn kai tous huious tragǭdias. alla kai ho argos kaloumenos logos, sophisma ōn, toioutos esti legomenos epi hypotheseōs pros ton nosounta kai hōs sophisma apotrepōn auton chrēsthai tǭ iatrǭ pros hygieian, kai echei ge houtōs ho logos; ei heimartai soi anastēnai ek tēs nosou, ean te eisagagę̄s ton iatron ean te mē eisagagę̄s, anastēsę̄; alla kai ei heimartai soi mē anastēnai ek tēs nosou, ean te eisagagę̄s ton iatron ean te mē eisagagę̄s, ouk anastēsę̄; ētoi de heimartai soi anastēnai ek tēs nosou ē heimartai soi mē anastēnai; matēn ara eisageis ton iatron. alla charientōs toutǭ tǭ logǭ toiouton ti antiparaballetai; ei heimartai soi teknopoiēsai, ean te synelthę̄s gynaiki ean te mē synelthę̄s, teknopoiēseis; alla kai ei heimartai soi mē teknopoiēsai, ean te synelthę̄s gynaiki ē mē synelthę̄s, ou teknopoiēseis; ētoi de heimartai soi teknopoiēsai ē mē teknopoiēsai; matēn ara synerchę̄ gynaiki. hōs gar epi toutou, epei amēchanon kai adynaton teknopoiēsai ton mē synelthonta gynaiki, ou matēn paralambanetai to synelthein gynaiki; houtōs ei to anastēnai ek tēs nosou hodǭ tę̄ apo iatrikēs ginetai, anankaiōs paralambanetai ho iatros, kai pseudos to „matēn eisageis ton iatron.“ hola de tauta pareilēphamen diʼ ha paretheto ho sophōtatos Kelsos eipōn; theos ōn proeipe, kai pantōs echrēn genesthai to proeirēmenon. ei gar tou pantōs akouei anti tou katēnankasmenōs, ou dōsomen autǭ; dynaton gar ēn kai mē genesthai. ei de to pantōs legei anti tou estai. hoper ou kōlyetai einai alēthes. kan dynaton ę̄ to mē genesthai. ouden lypei ton logon; oude (gar) ēkolouthei tǭ proeirēkenai ton Iēsoun (alēthōs) ta peri tou prodotou ē ta peri tou arnēsamenou to auton autois aition genesthai asebeias kai anosiou praxeōs. idōn gar autou to mochthēron ēthos ho kathʼ hēmas ginōskōn, „ti ēn en tǭ anthrōpǭ, “ kai horōn ha tolmēsei ek te tou philargyros einai kai ek tou mē bebaiōs peri tou didaskalou phronein ha echrēn eipe meta pollōn kai to; „ho embapsas metʼ emou tēn cheira eis to tryblion. ekeinos me paradōsei.“

After this let us see how he speaks: “He foretold these things,” he says, “being a god, and what was foretold had to happen in any case. A god, then, led his own disciples and prophets, with whom he ate and drank, into this, so that they became impious and unholy, when he above all ought to have done good to all people, and especially to those who shared his table. Or would a man who had shared a table with another no longer plot against him, whereas one who feasted with a god became his plotter? And what is still more absurd, the god himself plotted against those who shared his table, making them traitors and ungodly.” Since you wish me to answer even Celsus's arguments that seem to me trivial, we shall say the following to this too. Celsus thinks that what is declared by some foreknowledge happens because it was declared; we do not grant this, but say that the one who declared it is not the cause of what will be because he foretold that it would happen; rather what will be, which would have been even if it had not been declared, provided the foreknower with the reason for foretelling it. And this whole matter lies in the foreknowledge of the one who declares it: when it is possible for a certain thing to happen and possible also for it not to happen, one or the other of them will be the case. And we do not say that the foreknower, taking away the possibility of its happening or not happening, says something like this: “This will certainly be, and it is impossible for it to happen otherwise.” This applies to every foreknowledge of something that depends on us, whether in the divine Scriptures or in the histories of the Greeks. And what the dialecticians call the “idle argument,” which is a sophism, will not be a sophism as far as Celsus is concerned, but by sound reason it is a sophism. So that this may be understood, from Scripture I shall use the prophecies about Judas, or our Savior's foreknowledge of him as the one who would betray him; and from Greek history the oracle to Laius, granting for the present that it is true, since this does not harm the argument. About Judas, then, it is said in the hundred and eighth psalm, spoken in the person of the Savior, which begins: “O God, do not pass over my praise in silence; for the mouth of the sinner and the mouth of the deceitful has been opened against me.” And if you observe what is written in the psalm, you will find that, just as he was foreknown as the one who would betray the Savior, so he was also the cause of the betrayal and deserved, because of his wickedness, the curses spoken in the prophecy. For let him suffer these things, “because,” it says, “he did not remember to show mercy, and persecuted a man poor and needy.” So he was able to remember “to show mercy” and not to persecute the one he persecuted; but though he was able, he did not do so, but betrayed him, so as to deserve the curses against him in the prophecy. And against the Greeks we shall use what was said in this way to Laius, whether the tragedian recorded its very words or their equivalent. It is said to him by the one who foreknew what would be: “Do not sow the furrow of children against the will of the gods; for if you beget a child, your offspring will kill you, and your whole house will wade through blood.” In this, then, it is clearly shown that it was possible for Laius not to sow “the furrow of children”; for the oracle would not have commanded him what was not possible. But it was also possible to sow, and neither of the two was compelled. It followed for him who did not guard against sowing “the furrow of children” that, from having sown, he suffered the tragedy of Oedipus, Jocasta, and their sons. So too the so-called idle argument, being a sophism, runs like this when put hypothetically to a sick man, deterring him, as a sophism, from using the physician for his health. The argument goes thus: “If it is fated for you to recover from the illness, you will recover whether you call in the physician or not; but if it is fated for you not to recover, you will not recover whether you call in the physician or not. Either it is fated for you to recover or it is fated for you not to recover. So you call in the physician in vain.” But this argument is wittily met by one like it: “If it is fated for you to beget children, you will beget them whether you lie with a woman or not; but if it is fated for you not to beget children, you will not beget them whether you lie with a woman or not. Either it is fated for you to beget children or not to beget them. So you lie with a woman in vain.” For just as in this case, since it is impossible and cannot be that one who does not lie with a woman begets children, lying with a woman is not undertaken in vain, so, if recovery from illness comes by way of medicine, the physician is necessarily called in, and “you call in the physician in vain” is false. We have brought in all this because of what the most wise Celsus put forward when he said: “Being a god he foretold it, and what was foretold had to happen in any case.” For if he takes “in any case” to mean “by necessity,” we shall not grant it to him, since it was possible also for it not to happen. But if he means “in any case” in the sense of “it will be,” which may well be true even if it is possible for it not to happen, this does not harm the argument. Nor did it follow from Jesus' truly foretelling what concerned the betrayer or the one who denied that he himself became the cause of their impious and unholy act. For he who, as we believe, knew “what was in man,” saw his wicked character and what he would dare from being a lover of money and from not holding firmly the right convictions about his teacher, and among much else he said: “He who has dipped his hand with me in the dish, he will betray me.”

Ps 109:1 (108:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 109:2 (108:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 109:16 (108:16 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · John 2:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:23 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Against Celsus's charge that a foreknowing God made his disciples traitors, Origen argues that foreknowledge does not cause what it foresees, using Judas, the oracle to Laius, and the Stoic “idle argument.”

  • The quotations are Ps 109:1–2 (108:1–2 LXX), Ps 109:16 (108:16 LXX), John 2:25, and Matt 26:23. The oracle to Laius is Euripides, Phoenician Women 18–20. The “idle argument” (ἀργὸς λόγος) is the fatalist sophism discussed by the Stoics and reported by Cicero, On Fate 28–30. The words in parentheses in the Greek are editorial supplements.

Extrabiblical texts: Euripides, Phoen. 18–20 (Euripides (plays and fragments); quotation)

Topics: Christology, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.20 (Koetschau 1:148–151; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-20).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.21Koetschau 1:151–152

Ὅρα δὲ καὶ τὸ ἐπιπόλαιον καὶ τὸ ἄντικρυς ψεῦδος τῆς τοιαύτης τοῦ Κέλσου λέξεως. ἀποφηναμένου ὅτι ἀνθρώπῳ μὲν ὁ κοινωνήσας τραπέζης οὐκ ἂν αὐτῷ ἐπιβουλεύσειεν· εἰ δὲ ἀνθρώπῳ οὐκ ἂν ἐπιβουλεύσειε. πολλῷ πλέον ὁ θεῷ συνευωχηθεὶς οὐκ ἂν αὐτῷ ἐπίβουλος ἐγίνετο. τίς γὰρ οὐκ οἶδεν ὅτι πολλοὶ κοινωνήσαντες ἁλῶν καὶ τραπέζης ἐπεβούλευσαν τοῖς συνεστίοις; καὶ πλήρης ἐστὶν ἡ Ἑλλήνων καὶ βαρβάρων ἱστορία τοιούτων παραδειγμάτων· καὶ ὀνειδίζων γε ὁ Πάριος ἰαμβοποιὸς τὸν Λυκάμβην, μετὰ „ἅλας καὶ τράπεζαν“ συνθήκας ἀθετήσαντα. φησὶ πρὸς αὐτόν· ὅρκον δʼ ἐνοσφίσθης μέγαν ἅλας τε καὶ τράπεζαν. οἷς δὲ μέλει τῆς ἐν ἱστορίαις φιλομαθίας, ὅλοις γενομένοις αὐτῆς καὶ καταλιποῦσι τὰ ἀναγκαιότερα περὶ τοῦ ὡς δὴ βιωτέον μαθήματα. πλείονα παραθήσονται δεικνύντες ὡς οἱ κοινωνήσαντες τραπέζης τισὶν ἐπεβούλευσαν αὐτοῖς.

Hora de kai to epipolaion kai to antikrys pseudos tēs toiautēs tou Kelsou lexeōs. apophēnamenou hoti anthrōpǭ men ho koinōnēsas trapezēs ouk an autǭ epibouleuseien; ei de anthrōpǭ ouk an epibouleuseie. pollǭ pleon ho theǭ syneuōchētheis ouk an autǭ epiboulos egineto. tis gar ouk oiden hoti polloi koinōnēsantes halōn kai trapezēs epebouleusan tois synestiois? kai plērēs estin hē Hellēnōn kai barbarōn historia toioutōn paradeigmatōn; kai oneidizōn ge ho Parios iambopoios ton Lykambēn, meta „halas kai trapezan“ synthēkas athetēsanta. phēsi pros auton; horkon dʼ enosphisthēs megan halas te kai trapezan. hois de melei tēs en historiais philomathias, holois genomenois autēs kai katalipousi ta anankaiotera peri tou hōs dē biōteon mathēmata. pleiona parathēsontai deiknyntes hōs hoi koinōnēsantes trapezēs tisin epebouleusan autois.

See also how superficial and how plainly false is this statement of Celsus. He declared that a man who had shared another's table would not plot against him; and if he would not plot against a man, much more would one who had feasted with a god not become his plotter. For who does not know that many who shared salt and table have plotted against their companions at table? The history of Greeks and barbarians is full of such examples. And the iambic poet of Paros, reproaching Lycambes for breaking agreements made over “salt and table,” says to him: “You set aside a great oath, both salt and table.” Those who care for learning in histories, who have given themselves wholly to it and left aside the more necessary lessons about how one ought to live, will cite more examples showing that those who shared a table with some have plotted against them.

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Summary: Origen answers that history is full of people who plotted against those whose table they had shared.

  • The poet of Paros is Archilochus, whose attack on Lycambes is famous; the line is Archilochus, fragment 173 West. The digital text reads σλοις, evidently ὅλοις (“wholly”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): σλοις γενομένοις → ὅλοις γενομένοις.

Extrabiblical texts: Archilochus, fragment 173 (Archilochus; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.21 (Koetschau 1:151–152; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-21).

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2.22Koetschau 1:152

Εἶτα ὡς συναγαγὼν ἀραρυίαις ἀποδείξεσι καὶ ἀκολουθίαις τὸν λόγον εἶπε τό· καὶ ὅπερ ἔτι ἀτοπώτερον, αὐτὸς ὁ θεὸς τοῖς συντραπέζοις ἐπεβούλευε, προδότας καὶ δυσσεβεῖς ποιῶν. πῶς γὰρ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἢ ἐπεβούλευσεν ἢ προδότας καὶ δυσσεβεῖς τοὺς μαθητὰς ἐποίησεν, οὐκ ἂν ἔχοι παραδεικνύειν εἰ μὴ ἐξ ἧς ἐνόμισεν ἀκολουθίας. ἣν καὶ ὁ τυχὼν εὐχερέστατα διελέγξαι ἄν.

Eita hōs synagagōn araruiais apodeixesi kai akolouthiais ton logon eipe to; kai hoper eti atopōteron, autos ho theos tois syntrapezois epebouleue, prodotas kai dyssebeis poiōn. pōs gar ho Iēsous ē epebouleusen ē prodotas kai dyssebeis tous mathētas epoiēsen, ouk an echoi paradeiknyein ei mē ex hēs enomisen akolouthias. hēn kai ho tychōn eucherestata dielenxai an.

Then, as if he had concluded his argument with firmly fitted proofs and consequences, he said: “And what is still more absurd, the god himself plotted against those who shared his table, making them traitors and ungodly.” But how Jesus either plotted against his disciples or made them traitors and ungodly, he could not show, except from the chain of reasoning he imagined, which anyone at all could very easily refute.

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Summary: Origen dismisses Celsus's claim that Jesus plotted against his own disciples and made them traitors.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing accent and breathing in the digital text): ἐξ ης ἐνόμισεν → ἐξ ἧς ἐνόμισεν.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.22 (Koetschau 1:152; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-22).

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2.23Koetschau 1:152–153

Μετὰ ταῦτα λέγει ὅτι. εἰ δέδοκτο αὐτῷ ταῦτα. καὶ τῷ πατρὶ πειθόμενος ἐκολάζετο, δῆλον ὅτι θεῷ γε ὄντι καὶ βουλομένῳ οὔτʼ ἀλγεινὰ οὔτʼ ἀνιαρὰ ἦν τὰ κατὰ γνώμην δρώμενα. καὶ οὐχ ἑώρακέ γε αὐτὸς ἑαυτῷ παρὰ πόδας ἐναντία εἰπών. εἰ γὰρ ἔδωκεν ὅτι ἐκολάζετο. ἐπεὶ δέδοκτο αὐτῷ ταῦτα. καὶ τῷ πατρὶ πειθόμενος ἐμπαρεῖχεν ἑαυτὸν, δῆλον ὅτι ἐκολάζετο, καὶ οὐχ οἷόν τε ἦν μὴ εἶναι ἀλγεινὰ τὰ προσαγόμενα ὑπὸ τῶν κολαστῶν· ἀπροαίρετον γὰρ ὁ πόνος. εἰ δὲ βουλομένῳ οὔτε ἀλγεινὰ οὔτε ἀνιαρὰ ἦν τὰ προσαγόμενα, πῶς ἔδωκε τὸ ἐκολάζετο; οὐχ ἑώρακε δὲ ὅτι ἅπαξ ἀναλαβὼν τὸ διὰ γενέσεως σῶμα ἀνείληφεν αὐτὸ καὶ πόνων δεκτικὸν τυγχάνον καὶ τῶν τοῖς ἐν σώμασι συμβαινόντων ἀνιαρῶν, εἰ τοῦ ἀνιαροῦ μὴ ὡς προαιρετικοῦ ἀκούοιμεν. ὥσπερ οὖν βουληθεὶς ἀνείληφε σῶμα οὐ πάντῃ ἄλλης φύσεως παρὰ τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην σάρκα. οὕτως συνανείληφε τῷ σώματι καὶ τὰ ἀλγεινὰ αὐτοῦ καὶ τὰ ἀνιαρὰ. ὧν πρὸς τὸ μὴ παθεῖν κύριος οὐκ ἦν, ἐπὶ τοῖς διατιθεῖσιν ὄντος προσάγειν αὐτῷ τὰ ἀνιαρὰ καὶ τὰ ἀλγεινά. προαπελογησάμεθα δὲ ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω ὅτι βουληθεὶς μὴ ἥκειν εἰς χεῖρας ἀνθρώπων οὐκ ἐληλύθει ἄν. ἦλθε δὲ. ἐπεὶ ἐβούλετο. διὰ τὸ προαποδεδομένον ἐκ τοῦ αὐτὸν ὑπὲρ ἀνθρώπων ἀποθανεῖν τῷ παντὶ χρήσιμον.

Meta tauta legei hoti. ei dedokto autǭ tauta. kai tǭ patri peithomenos ekolazeto, dēlon hoti theǭ ge onti kai boulomenǭ outʼ algeina outʼ aniara ēn ta kata gnōmēn drōmena. kai ouch heōrake ge autos heautǭ para podas enantia eipōn. ei gar edōken hoti ekolazeto. epei dedokto autǭ tauta. kai tǭ patri peithomenos empareichen heauton, dēlon hoti ekolazeto, kai ouch hoion te ēn mē einai algeina ta prosagomena hypo tōn kolastōn; aproaireton gar ho ponos. ei de boulomenǭ oute algeina oute aniara ēn ta prosagomena, pōs edōke to ekolazeto? ouch heōrake de hoti hapax analabōn to dia geneseōs sōma aneilēphen auto kai ponōn dektikon tynchanon kai tōn tois en sōmasi symbainontōn aniarōn, ei tou aniarou mē hōs proairetikou akouoimen. hōsper oun boulētheis aneilēphe sōma ou pantę̄ allēs physeōs para tēn anthrōpinēn sarka. houtōs synaneilēphe tǭ sōmati kai ta algeina autou kai ta aniara. hōn pros to mē pathein kyrios ouk ēn, epi tois diatitheisin ontos prosagein autǭ ta aniara kai ta algeina. proapelogēsametha de en tois anōterō hoti boulētheis mē hēkein eis cheiras anthrōpōn ouk elēlythei an. ēlthe de. epei ebouleto. dia to proapodedomenon ek tou auton hyper anthrōpōn apothanein tǭ panti chrēsimon.

After this he says: “If he had decided on these things and was punished in obedience to his Father, it is clear that, since he was a god and willed it, what was done to him according to his own purpose was neither painful nor grievous to him.” He did not see that he was contradicting himself at once. For if he granted that he was punished, since he had decided on these things and in obedience to his Father gave himself up, it is clear that he was punished, and it was not possible for what the punishers inflicted not to be painful; for pain does not depend on the will. But if what was inflicted was neither painful nor grievous to one who willed it, how did he grant that “he was punished”? He did not see that, having once taken the body that comes through birth, he took a body capable of suffering pain and the grievous things that befall those in bodies, if we understand “grievous” as something not chosen. So then, just as he willingly took a body not wholly of another nature than human flesh, so together with the body he also took its pains and griefs. He was not master of not suffering these, since it lay with those who handled him to inflict on him what was grievous and painful. We have already made our defense above, that if he had not wished to come into human hands he would not have come; but he came, since he wished to, because of the benefit to the universe, stated earlier, from his dying for human beings.

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Summary: Origen replies that Jesus, having truly taken a human body, truly felt pain, even though he freely chose to suffer for the benefit of all.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.23 (Koetschau 1:152–153; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-23).

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2.24Koetschau 1:153–154

Ἑξῆς δὲ τούτοις θέλων παραστῆσαι ὅτι ἀλγεινὰ καὶ ἀνιαρὰ ἦν τὰ συμβάντα αὐτῷ καὶ ὅτι οὐχ οἷόν τε ἦν βουληθέντα αὐτὸν ποιῆσαι εἶναι αὐτὰ μὴ τοιαῦτα λέγει· τί οὖν ποτνιᾶται καὶ ὀδύρεται καὶ τὸν τοῦ ὀλέθρου φόβον εὔχεται παραδραμεῖν. λέγων ὧδέ πως· „ὦ πάτερ. εἰ δύναται τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο παρελθεῖν;“ καὶ ἐν τούτοις δὲ ὅρα τὸ τοῦ Κέλσου κακοῦργον, ὅτι μὴ ἀποδεξάμενος τὸ φιλάληθες τῶν ἀναγραψάντων τὰ εὐαγγέλια, δυνηθέντων μὲν παρασιωπῆσαι τὰ. ὡς Κέλσος οἴεται. ἔγκλητα οὐ σιωπησάντων δὲ διὰ πολλοὺς λόγους. οὓς ἐν καιρῷ τις ἀποδώσει τὸ εὐαγγέλιον διηγούμενος. κατηγορεῖ τῆς εὐαγγελικῆς λέξεως προσεκτραγῳδῶν καὶ τιθεὶς μὴ τὰ ἀναγεγραμμένα· οὐ γὰρ εὑρίσκεται. πῶς ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὀδύρεται. καὶ παραφράζει μὲν τὸ „πάτερ, εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι, παρελθέτω τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο, “ οὐκέτι δὲ καὶ τὸ αὐτόθεν ἐμφαῖνον τὴν πρὸς τὸν πατέρα εὐσέβειαν αὐτοῦ καὶ μεγαλοψυχίαν ἑξῆς δὲ τούτῳ ἀναγεγραμμένον παρατίθεται οὕτως ἔχον· „πλὴν οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω. ἀλλʼ ὡς σύ.“ ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ τὴν πρὸς τὸ βούλημα τοῦ πατρὸς περὶ τῶν κεκριμένων αὐτὸν παθεῖν εὐπείθειαν τοῦ Ἰησοῦ δηλουμένην ἐν τῷ „εἰ οὐ δύναται τοῦτο παρελθεῖν. ἐὰν μὴ αὐτὸ πίω. γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου“ προσποιεῖται ἀνεγνωκέναι. ὅμοιόν τι ποιῶν τοῖς κακουργότερον ἀκούουσι τῶν θείων γραφῶν ἀσεβέσι καὶ „ἀδικίαν εἰς τὸ ὕψος“ λαλοῦσι. καὶ γὰρ ἐκεῖνοι τοῦ μὲν „ἐγὼ ἀποκτενῶ“ δοκοῦσιν ἀκηκοέναι καὶ πολλάκις ἡμῖν αὐτὸ ὀνειδίζουσι. τοῦ δὲ „ζῆν ποιήσω“ οὐδὲ μέμνηνται· τοῦ ὅλου ῥητοῦ δηλοῦντος τοὺς ἐπὶ κοινῷ κακῷ ζῶντας καὶ ἐνεργοῦντας κατὰ κακίαν ἀποκτείννυσθαι ἀπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ. ζωὴν δʼ αὐτοῖς κρείττονα ἀντεισάγεσθαι καὶ ἣν δῴη ἂν ὁ θεὸς τοῖς τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ ἀποθανοῦσιν. οὕτω δʼ ἐκεῖνοι ἤκουσαν μὲν τοῦ „πατάξω“ οὐκέτι δὲ ὁρῶσι τὸ „κἀγὼ ἰάσομαι“· ὅ τι ὅμοιόν ἐστι λεγομένῳ ὑπὸ ἰατροῦ, διελόντος σώματα καὶ τραύματα χαλεπὰ ποιήσαντος ἐπὶ τῷ ἐξελεῖν αὐτῶν τὰ βλάπτοντα καὶ ἐμποδίζοντα τῇ ὑγιείᾳ, καὶ οὐ καταλήξαντος εἰς τοὺς πόνους καὶ τὴν διαίρεσιν ἀλλʼ ἀποκαθιστῶντος τῇ θεραπείᾳ τὸ σῶμα ἐπὶ τὴν προκειμένην αὐτῷ ὑγίειαν. ἀλλὰ καὶ οὐκ ἤκουσαν ὅλου τοῦ „αὐτὸς γὰρ ἀλγεῖν ποιεῖ καὶ πάλιν ἀποκαθίστησιν“ ἀλλὰ μόνου τοῦ „ἀλγεῖν ποιεῖ.“ οὕτω τοίνυν καὶ ὁ παρὰ τῷ Κέλσῳ Ἰουδαῖος ἐκτεθειμένος τὸ „ὦ πάτερ, εἴθε δύναιτο τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο παρελθεῖν, “ οὐκέτι δὲ καὶ τὰ ἑξῆς καὶ τὰ παριστάντα τὴν Ἰησοῦ πρὸς τὸ πάθος παρασκευὴν καὶ εὐτονίαν. καὶ ταῦτα δὲ, πολλὴν ἔχοντα διήγησιν ἀπὸ σοφίας θεοῦ οἷς ὁ Παῦλος ὠνόμασε „τελείοις“ εὐλόγως παραδοθησομένην. λέγων· „σοφίαν δὲ λαλοῦμεν ἐν τοῖς τελείοις.“ ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος ὑπερτιθέμενοι ἐπʼ ὀλίγον ὑπομιμνησκόμεθα τῶν πρὸς τὸ προκείμενον χρησίμων.

Hexēs de toutois thelōn parastēsai hoti algeina kai aniara ēn ta symbanta autǭ kai hoti ouch hoion te ēn boulēthenta auton poiēsai einai auta mē toiauta legei; ti oun potniatai kai odyretai kai ton tou olethrou phobon euchetai paradramein. legōn hōde pōs; „ō pater. ei dynatai to potērion touto parelthein?“ kai en toutois de hora to tou Kelsou kakourgon, hoti mē apodexamenos to philalēthes tōn anagrapsantōn ta euangelia, dynēthentōn men parasiōpēsai ta. hōs Kelsos oietai. enklēta ou siōpēsantōn de dia pollous logous. hous en kairǭ tis apodōsei to euangelion diēgoumenos. katēgorei tēs euangelikēs lexeōs prosektragǭdōn kai titheis mē ta anagegrammena; ou gar heurisketai. pōs ho Iēsous odyretai. kai paraphrazei men to „pater, ei dynaton esti, parelthetō to potērion touto, “ ouketi de kai to autothen emphainon tēn pros ton patera eusebeian autou kai megalopsychian hexēs de toutǭ anagegrammenon paratithetai houtōs echon; „plēn ouch hōs egō thelō. allʼ hōs sy.“ allʼ oude tēn pros to boulēma tou patros peri tōn kekrimenōn auton pathein eupeitheian tou Iēsou dēloumenēn en tǭ „ei ou dynatai touto parelthein. ean mē auto piō. genēthētō to thelēma sou“ prospoieitai anegnōkenai. homoion ti poiōn tois kakourgoteron akouousi tōn theiōn graphōn asebesi kai „adikian eis to hypsos“ lalousi. kai gar ekeinoi tou men „egō apoktenō“ dokousin akēkoenai kai pollakis hēmin auto oneidizousi. tou de „zēn poiēsō“ oude memnēntai; tou holou rhētou dēlountos tous epi koinǭ kakǭ zōntas kai energountas kata kakian apokteinnysthai apo tou theou. zōēn dʼ autois kreittona anteisagesthai kai hēn dǭē an ho theos tois tę̄ hamartią apothanousin. houtō dʼ ekeinoi ēkousan men tou „pataxō“ ouketi de horōsi to „kagō iasomai“; ho ti homoion esti legomenǭ hypo iatrou, dielontos sōmata kai traumata chalepa poiēsantos epi tǭ exelein autōn ta blaptonta kai empodizonta tę̄ hygieią, kai ou katalēxantos eis tous ponous kai tēn diairesin allʼ apokathistōntos tę̄ therapeią to sōma epi tēn prokeimenēn autǭ hygieian. alla kai ouk ēkousan holou tou „autos gar algein poiei kai palin apokathistēsin“ alla monou tou „algein poiei.“ houtō toinyn kai ho para tǭ Kelsǭ Ioudaios ektetheimenos to „ō pater, eithe dynaito to potērion touto parelthein, “ ouketi de kai ta hexēs kai ta paristanta tēn Iēsou pros to pathos paraskeuēn kai eutonian. kai tauta de, pollēn echonta diēgēsin apo sophias theou hois ho Paulos ōnomase „teleiois“ eulogōs paradothēsomenēn. legōn; „sophian de laloumen en tois teleiois.“ epi tou parontos hypertithemenoi epʼ oligon hypomimnēskometha tōn pros to prokeimenon chrēsimōn.

Next, wishing to show that what befell him was painful and grievous, and that it was not possible for him to make it otherwise by willing it, he says: “Why then does he cry out and lament and pray to escape the fear of destruction, saying something like this: ‘O Father, if this cup could pass by’?” Here too see Celsus's malice. He does not acknowledge the love of truth of those who wrote the Gospels, who could have passed over in silence what Celsus thinks blameworthy, yet did not keep silent, for many reasons which someone will set out at the proper time in expounding the Gospel. Instead he accuses the Gospel text, adding tragic exaggeration and putting down what is not written; for it is not found that Jesus laments. He paraphrases “Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass,” but no longer cites what is written right after it, which plainly shows his reverence toward the Father and his greatness of soul, and which runs: “Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Nor does he pretend to have read the ready obedience of Jesus to his Father's will concerning what had been decided that he should suffer, shown in the words: “If this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.” He is doing something like the impious who hear the divine Scriptures maliciously and “speak unrighteousness on high.” For they seem to have heard “I will kill,” and they often reproach us with it, but they do not even remember “I will make alive.” Yet the whole saying shows that those who live to the common harm and act in wickedness are killed by God, and a better life is brought in for them in exchange, one that God would give to those who have died to sin. So too they have heard “I will strike,” but do not see “and I will heal.” This is like what a physician says when he has cut into bodies and made severe wounds in order to remove what harms them and hinders their health, and does not stop at the pain and the cutting, but by his treatment restores the body to the health he intends for it. Nor have they heard the whole of “For he causes pain and restores again,” but only “he causes pain.” In the same way the Jew presented by Celsus has set out “O Father, if only this cup could pass by,” but not what follows, which displays Jesus' readiness and firmness toward his passion. These matters too, which admit of a long exposition from the wisdom of God, fittingly to be handed on to those whom Paul called “perfect” when he said, “We speak wisdom among the perfect,” we put off for the present and briefly recall only what is useful for the matter at hand.

Matt 26:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:42 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 73:8 (72:8 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 32:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 5:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 2:6 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Origen accuses Celsus of quoting Jesus' prayer in Gethsemane selectively, omitting his submission to the Father's will, as the impious quote “I will kill” without “I will make alive.”

  • The quotations are Matt 26:39 and 26:42 (with Celsus's paraphrase), Ps 73:8 (72:8 LXX), Deut 32:39, and Job 5:18; the closing quotation is 1 Cor 2:6.

Topics: Christology, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.24 (Koetschau 1:153–154; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-24).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.25Koetschau 1:154–155

Ἐλέγομεν δὴ καὶ ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω ὅτι αἱ μέν τινες εἰσὶ φωναὶ τοῦ ἐν τῷ Ἰησοῦ πρωτοτόκου „πάσης κτίσεως“ ὡς ἡ· „ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς καὶ ἡ ἀλήθεια καὶ ἡ ζωὴ“ καὶ αἱ τούτοις παραπλήσιαι, αἱ δὲ τοῦ κατʼ αὐτὸν νοουμένου ἀνθρώπου ὡς ἡ τοῦ· „νῦν δέ με ζητεῖτε ἀποκτεῖναι, ἄνθρωπον, ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα. ἣν ἤκουσα παρὰ τοῦ πατρός.“ καὶ ἐνθάδε τοίνυν διαγράφει ἐν τῷ ἀνθρωπίνῳ αὐτοῦ καὶ τὸ τῆς ἀνθρωπίνης σαρκὸς ἀσθενὲς καὶ τὸ τοῦ πνεύματος πρόθυμον. τὸ μὲν ἀσθενὲς ἐν τῷ „πάτερ, εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι, παρελθέτω ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο.“ τὸ δὲ πρόθυμον τοῦ πνεύματος ἐν τῷ „πλὴν οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλʼ ὡς σύ.“ εἰ δὲ καὶ τὴν τάξιν τῶν λελεγμένων τηρῆσαι δεῖ. πρόσχες ὅτι πρότερον μὲν εἴρηται τὸ. ὡς ἂν εἴποι τις, κατὰ τὴν ἀσθένειαν τῆς σαρκὸς ἓν τυγχάνον. ὕστερον δὲ τὰ κατὰ τὴν προθυμίαν τοῦ πνεύματος ὄντα πλείονα. ἓν μὲν γὰρ τὸ „πάτερ. εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι. παρελθέτω ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο, “ πλείονα δὲ τό τε „οὐχ ὡς ἐγὼ θέλω, ἀλλʼ ὡς σὺ“ καὶ τὸ „πάτερ μου, εἰ οὐ δύναται τοῦτο παρελθεῖν, ἐὰν μὴ αὐτὸ πίω, γενηθήτω τὸ θέλημά σου.“ τηρητέον δὲ καὶ τὸ μὴ εἰρῆσθαι μέν· „ἀπελθέτω ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο, “ λελέχθαι δὲ εὐσεβῶς καὶ μεθʼ ὑποτιμήσεως ὅλον τοῦτο· „πάτερ, εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι. παρελθέτω ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο.“ οἶδα δέ τινα καὶ τοιαύτην εἰς τὸν τόπον διήγησιν, ὅτι ὁρῶν ὁ σωτὴρ οἷα ὁ λαὸς καὶ Ἱερουσαλὴμ πείσεται ἐπὶ τῇ ἐκδικήσει τῶν κατʼ αὐτοῦ τετολμημένων ὑπὸ Ἰουδαίων, οὐ διʼ ἄλλο τι ἢ διὰ τὸ πρὸς ἐκείνους φιλάνθρωπον θέλων μὴ παθεῖν τὸν λαὸν ἃ ἔμελλε πάσχειν φησὶ τὸ „πάτερ. εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι. παρελθέτω ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο“· ὡς εἰ ἔλεγεν· ἐπεὶ ἐκ τοῦ με πιεῖν τουτὶ τὸ τῆς κολάσεως ποτήριον ὅλον ἔθνος ὑπὸ σοῦ ἐγκαταλειφθήσεται, εὔχομαι. εἰ δυνατόν ἐστι, παρελθεῖν „ἀπʼ ἐμοῦ τὸ ποτήριον τοῦτο, “ ἵνα μὴ ἡ μερίς σου τολμήσασα κατʼ ἐμοῦ πάντῃ ὑπὸ σοῦ ἐγκαταλειφθῇ. ἀλλὰ καὶ εἰ, ὥς φησιν ὁ Κέλσος. μήτʼ ἀλγεινόν τι μήτʼ ἀνιαρὸν τῷ Ἰησοῦ κατὰ τὸν καιρὸν τοῦτον ἐγίνετο, πῶς ἂν οἱ μετὰ ταῦτα παραδείγματι τοῦ ὑπομένειν τὰ διʼ εὐσέβειαν ἐπίπονα ἐδύναντο χρήσασθαι Ἰησοῦ. μὴ παθόντι μὲν τὰ ἀνθρώπινα μόνον δὲ δόξαντι πεπονθέναι;

Elegomen dē kai en tois anōterō hoti hai men tines eisi phōnai tou en tǭ Iēsou prōtotokou „pasēs ktiseōs“ hōs hē; „egō eimi hē hodos kai hē alētheia kai hē zōē“ kai hai toutois paraplēsiai, hai de tou katʼ auton nooumenou anthrōpou hōs hē tou; „nyn de me zēteite apokteinai, anthrōpon, hos tēn alētheian hymin lelalēka. hēn ēkousa para tou patros.“ kai enthade toinyn diagraphei en tǭ anthrōpinǭ autou kai to tēs anthrōpinēs sarkos asthenes kai to tou pneumatos prothymon. to men asthenes en tǭ „pater, ei dynaton esti, parelthetō apʼ emou to potērion touto.“ to de prothymon tou pneumatos en tǭ „plēn ouch hōs egō thelō, allʼ hōs sy.“ ei de kai tēn taxin tōn lelegmenōn tērēsai dei. prosches hoti proteron men eirētai to. hōs an eipoi tis, kata tēn astheneian tēs sarkos hen tynchanon. hysteron de ta kata tēn prothymian tou pneumatos onta pleiona. hen men gar to „pater. ei dynaton esti. parelthetō apʼ emou to potērion touto, “ pleiona de to te „ouch hōs egō thelō, allʼ hōs sy“ kai to „pater mou, ei ou dynatai touto parelthein, ean mē auto piō, genēthētō to thelēma sou.“ tērēteon de kai to mē eirēsthai men; „apelthetō apʼ emou to potērion touto, “ lelechthai de eusebōs kai methʼ hypotimēseōs holon touto; „pater, ei dynaton esti. parelthetō apʼ emou to potērion touto.“ oida de tina kai toiautēn eis ton topon diēgēsin, hoti horōn ho sōtēr hoia ho laos kai Hierousalēm peisetai epi tę̄ ekdikēsei tōn katʼ autou tetolmēmenōn hypo Ioudaiōn, ou diʼ allo ti ē dia to pros ekeinous philanthrōpon thelōn mē pathein ton laon ha emelle paschein phēsi to „pater. ei dynaton esti. parelthetō apʼ emou to potērion touto“; hōs ei elegen; epei ek tou me piein touti to tēs kolaseōs potērion holon ethnos hypo sou enkataleiphthēsetai, euchomai. ei dynaton esti, parelthein „apʼ emou to potērion touto, “ hina mē hē meris sou tolmēsasa katʼ emou pantę̄ hypo sou enkataleiphthę̄. alla kai ei, hōs phēsin ho Kelsos. mētʼ algeinon ti mētʼ aniaron tǭ Iēsou kata ton kairon touton egineto, pōs an hoi meta tauta paradeigmati tou hypomenein ta diʼ eusebeian epipona edynanto chrēsasthai Iēsou. mē pathonti men ta anthrōpina monon de doxanti peponthenai?

We said above too that some sayings are those of the firstborn “of all creation” in Jesus, such as “I am the way and the truth and the life” and others like it, while others are those of the man understood to be in him, such as “But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from the Father.” Here, then, in his human nature he portrays both the weakness of human flesh and the eagerness of the spirit: the weakness in “Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me,” and the eagerness of the spirit in “Yet not as I will, but as you will.” And if one must also observe the order of what was said, notice that first is said what belongs to the weakness of the flesh, being, so to speak, one thing, and afterward what belongs to the eagerness of the spirit, which is more. For there is one saying, “Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me,” but more: both “not as I will, but as you will” and “My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done.” It must also be observed that he did not say, “Let this cup go away from me,” but said this whole sentence reverently and with reserve: “Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me.” I also know of an interpretation of the passage like this: the Savior, seeing what the people and Jerusalem would suffer in punishment for what the Jews had dared against him, for no other reason than his love for them, wished that the people should not suffer what they were going to suffer, and said, “Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from me”; as if he were saying: “Since, because I drink this cup of punishment, a whole nation will be forsaken by you, I pray, if it is possible, that this cup may pass from me, so that your portion, which has dared this against me, may not be wholly forsaken by you.” But if, as Celsus says, nothing painful or grievous happened to Jesus at that time, how could those who came afterward use Jesus as an example of enduring hardships for the sake of piety, if he had not suffered human things but only seemed to have suffered?

Col 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:40 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:42 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 26:41 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Origen explains that in Gethsemane Jesus spoke as a man, showing both the weakness of the flesh and the eagerness of the spirit, and that his real suffering is an example to believers.

  • The quotations are Col 1:15, John 14:6, John 8:40, Matt 26:39, and Matt 26:42; “the weakness of the flesh” and “the eagerness of the spirit” echo Matt 26:41. Origen reports without adopting it an interpretation that Jesus prayed for the Jewish people.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.25 (Koetschau 1:154–155; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-25).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.26Koetschau 1:155–156

Ἔτι δὲ λέγει ὁ παρὰ τῷ Κέλσῳ Ἰουδαῖος πρὸς τοὺς Ἰησοῦ μαθητὰς ὡς πλασαμένους ταῦτα. ὅτι οὐδὲ ψευδόμενοι τὰ πλάσματα ὑμῶν πιθανῶς ἐπικαλύψαι ἠδυνήθητε. καὶ πρὸς τόδε λελέξεται ὅτι εὐχερὴς μὲν ἦν ὁδὸς πρὸς τὸ ἐπικαλύψαι τὰ τοιαῦτα τὸ μηδὲ τὴν ἀρχὴν αὐτὰ ἀναγράψαι. τίς γὰρ ἂν τῶν εὐαγγελίων ταῦτα μὴ περιεχόντων ὀνειδίσαι ἐδύνατο ἡμῖν ἐπὶ τῷ τὸν Ἰησοῦν τοιαῦτα παρὰ τῇ οἰκονομίᾳ λελαληκέναι; οὐ συνεῖδε δʼ ὁ Κέλσος ὅτι οὐκ ἔστι κατὰ τοὺς αὐτοὺς καὶ ἠπατῆσθαι περὶ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ ὡς θεοῦ καὶ προφητευθέντος καὶ πλάσασθαι περὶ αὐτοῦ δηλονότι ἐγνωκότας ὅτι οὐκ ἀληθῆ τὰ πλάσματα. ἤτοι οὖν οὐκ ἔπλασαν ἀλλʼ οὕτως ἐφρόνουν καὶ οὐ ψευδόμενοι ἀνέγραψαν. ἢ ψευσάμενοι ἀνέγραψαν καὶ ταῦτα οὐκ ἐφρόνουν οὐδὲ ἀπατηθέντες θεὸν αὐτὸν ἐνόμιζον.

Eti de legei ho para tǭ Kelsǭ Ioudaios pros tous Iēsou mathētas hōs plasamenous tauta. hoti oude pseudomenoi ta plasmata hymōn pithanōs epikalypsai ēdynēthēte. kai pros tode lelexetai hoti eucherēs men ēn hodos pros to epikalypsai ta toiauta to mēde tēn archēn auta anagrapsai. tis gar an tōn euangeliōn tauta mē periechontōn oneidisai edynato hēmin epi tǭ ton Iēsoun toiauta para tę̄ oikonomią lelalēkenai? ou syneide dʼ ho Kelsos hoti ouk esti kata tous autous kai ēpatēsthai peri tou Iēsou hōs theou kai prophēteuthentos kai plasasthai peri autou dēlonoti egnōkotas hoti ouk alēthē ta plasmata. ētoi oun ouk eplasan allʼ houtōs ephronoun kai ou pseudomenoi anegrapsan. ē pseusamenoi anegrapsan kai tauta ouk ephronoun oude apatēthentes theon auton enomizon.

The Jew in Celsus further says to Jesus' disciples, as if they had invented these things: “Even with your lies you could not cover up your fictions plausibly.” To this it will be said that an easy way of covering up such things was not to record them at all. For if the Gospels had not contained them, who could have reproached us with Jesus having said such things during his dispensation? Celsus did not see that it is not possible for the same people both to have been deceived about Jesus as God and as the one foretold by prophecy, and to have invented things about him, obviously knowing that the inventions were untrue. Either, then, they did not invent them, but thought so and wrote without lying; or they wrote lying, and did not think so, and were not deceived into believing him to be God.

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Summary: Origen replies that the disciples could easily have hidden Jesus' distress by not recording it, and that they cannot have been both sincere believers and conscious liars.

  • “Dispensation” (οἰκονομία) here means Jesus' incarnate life and passion.

Topics: Christology, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.26 (Koetschau 1:155–156; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-26).

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2.27Koetschau 1:156

Μετὰ ταῦτά τινας τῶν πιστευόντων φησὶν ὡς ἐκ μέθης ἥκοντας εἰς τὸ ἐφεστάναι αὑτοῖς μεταχαράττειν ἐκ τῆς πρώτης γραφῆς τὸ εὐαγγέλιον τριχῇ καὶ τετραχῇ καὶ πολλαχῇ καὶ μεταπλάττειν, ἵνʼ ἔχοιεν πρὸς τοὺς ἐλέγχους ἀρνεῖσθαι. μεταχαράξαντας δὲ τὸ εὐαγγέλιον ἄλλους οὐκ οἶδα ἢ τοὺς ἀπὸ Μαρκίωνος καὶ τοὺς ἀπὸ Οὐαλεντίνου οἶμαι δὲ καὶ τοὺς ἀπὸ Λουκάνου. τοῦτο δὲ λεγόμενον οὐ τοῦ λόγου ἐστὶν ἔγκλημα ἀλλὰ τῶν τολμησάντων ῥᾳδιουργῆσαι τὰ εὐαγγέλια. καὶ ὥσπερ οὐ φιλοσοφίας ἔγκλημά εἰσιν οἱ σοφισταὶ ἢ οἱ Ἐπικούρειοι ἢ οἱ Περιπατητικοὶ ἢ οἵτινές ποτʼ ἂν ὦσιν οἱ ψευδοδοξοῦντες, οὕτως οὐ τοῦ ἀληθινοῦ χριστιανισμοῦ ἔγκλημα οἱ μεταχαράττοντες τὰ εὐαγγέλια καὶ αἱρέσεις ξένας ἐπεισάγοντες τῷ βουλήματι τῆς Ἰησοῦ διδασκαλίας.

Meta tauta tinas tōn pisteuontōn phēsin hōs ek methēs hēkontas eis to ephestanai hautois metacharattein ek tēs prōtēs graphēs to euangelion trichę̄ kai tetrachę̄ kai pollachę̄ kai metaplattein, hinʼ echoien pros tous elenchous arneisthai. metacharaxantas de to euangelion allous ouk oida ē tous apo Markiōnos kai tous apo Oualentinou oimai de kai tous apo Loukanou. touto de legomenon ou tou logou estin enklēma alla tōn tolmēsantōn rhądiourgēsai ta euangelia. kai hōsper ou philosophias enklēma eisin hoi sophistai ē hoi Epikoureioi ē hoi Peripatētikoi ē hoitines potʼ an ōsin hoi pseudodoxountes, houtōs ou tou alēthinou christianismou enklēma hoi metacharattontes ta euangelia kai haireseis xenas epeisagontes tǭ boulēmati tēs Iēsou didaskalias.

After this he says that some of the believers, as if coming from drunkenness to laying hands on themselves, have altered the Gospel from its first writing three and four and many times, and remodeled it, so as to be able to deny things in the face of refutations. I know of no others who have altered the Gospel than the followers of Marcion and those of Valentinus, and I think also those of Lucanus. But this, if said, is a charge not against the teaching but against those who dared to tamper with the Gospels. And just as sophists, Epicureans, Peripatetics, or whoever hold false opinions are not a charge against philosophy, so those who alter the Gospels and bring in heresies foreign to the intent of Jesus' teaching are not a charge against true Christianity.

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Summary: Origen answers Celsus's charge that Christians rewrote the Gospels: only heretics such as the followers of Marcion and Valentinus did so, and they no more discredit Christianity than bad philosophers discredit philosophy.

  • The Greek phrase ὡς ἐκ μέθης ἥκοντας εἰς τὸ ἐφεστάναι αὑτοῖς is obscure (perhaps “as if in drunkenness, to the point of turning against themselves”); rendered literally. Lucanus (Lucan) was a follower of Marcion. Origen names the Epicureans and Peripatetics among philosophers who “hold false opinions.”

Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.27 (Koetschau 1:156; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-27).

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2.28Koetschau 1:156–157

Ἐπεὶ δὲ μετὰ ταῦτα καὶ τὸ προφήταις χρῆσθαι Χριστιανοὺς προκηρύξασι τὰ περὶ Ἰησοῦ ὀνειδίζει ὁ παρὰ τῷ Κέλσῳ Ἰουδαῖος, φήσομεν πρὸς τοῖς ἀνωτέρω εἰς τοῦτο λελεγμένοις καὶ ὅτι ἐχρῆν αὐτὸν. ὥς φησι, φειδόμενον ἀνθρώπων, αὐτὰς ἐκθέσθαι τὰς προφητείας καὶ συναγορεύσαντα ταῖς πιθανότησιν αὐτῶν τὴν φαινομένην αὐτῷ ἀνατροπὴν τῆς χρήσεως τῶν προφητικῶν ἐκθέσθαι. οὕτω γὰρ ἂν ἔδοξε μὴ συναρπάζειν τηλικοῦτον κεφάλαιον διὰ λεξειδίων ὀλίγων, καὶ μάλιστα ἐπεί φησι μυρίοις ἄλλοις ἐφαρμοσθῆναι δύνασθαι πολὺ πιθανώτερον τὰ προφητικὰ ἢ τῷ Ἰησοῦ. καὶ ἐχρῆν γε αὐτὸν πρὸς τὴν κρατήσασαν Χριστιανῶν ταύτην ὡς ἰσχυροτάτην ἀπόδειξιν στῆναι ἐπιμελῶς καὶ καθʼ ἑκάστην προφητείαν ἐκθέσθαι, πῶς ἄλλοις ἐφαρμοσθῆναι δύναται πολὺ πιθανώτερον ἢ τῷ Ἰησοῦ. ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ συνεῖδεν ὅτι τοῦτʼ εἰ ἄρα πιθανὸν ἦν ὑπό τινος λέγεσθαι κατὰ Χριστιανῶν. ὑπὸ τῶν ἀλλοτρίων τῶν προφητικῶν γραμμάτων πιθανὸν τάχα ἦν· νυνὶ δὲ ὅπερ Ἰουδαῖος ἂν οὐκ εἶπε περιέθηκεν ὁ Κέλσος τῷ τοῦ Ἰουδαίου προσώπῳ. οὐ συγκαταθήσεται γὰρ ὁ Ἰουδαῖος ὅτι μυρίοις ἐφαρμοσθῆναι δύναται τὰ προφητικὰ πολὺ πιθανώτερον ἢ τῷ Ἰησοῦ. ἀλλὰ περὶ ἑκάστου τὴν φαινομένην αὐτῷ διήγησιν ἀποδιδοὺς στῆναι πειράσεται πρὸς τὴν τῶν Χριστιανῶν ἐκδοχὴν. οὐ πάντως μὲν πιστικὰ λέγων πειρώμενος δὲ τὸ τοιοῦτο ποιεῖν.

Epei de meta tauta kai to prophētais chrēsthai Christianous prokēryxasi ta peri Iēsou oneidizei ho para tǭ Kelsǭ Ioudaios, phēsomen pros tois anōterō eis touto lelegmenois kai hoti echrēn auton. hōs phēsi, pheidomenon anthrōpōn, autas ekthesthai tas prophēteias kai synagoreusanta tais pithanotēsin autōn tēn phainomenēn autǭ anatropēn tēs chrēseōs tōn prophētikōn ekthesthai. houtō gar an edoxe mē synarpazein tēlikouton kephalaion dia lexeidiōn oligōn, kai malista epei phēsi myriois allois epharmosthēnai dynasthai poly pithanōteron ta prophētika ē tǭ Iēsou. kai echrēn ge auton pros tēn kratēsasan Christianōn tautēn hōs ischyrotatēn apodeixin stēnai epimelōs kai kathʼ hekastēn prophēteian ekthesthai, pōs allois epharmosthēnai dynatai poly pithanōteron ē tǭ Iēsou. allʼ oude syneiden hoti toutʼ ei ara pithanon ēn hypo tinos legesthai kata Christianōn. hypo tōn allotriōn tōn prophētikōn grammatōn pithanon tacha ēn; nyni de hoper Ioudaios an ouk eipe periethēken ho Kelsos tǭ tou Ioudaiou prosōpǭ. ou synkatathēsetai gar ho Ioudaios hoti myriois epharmosthēnai dynatai ta prophētika poly pithanōteron ē tǭ Iēsou. alla peri hekastou tēn phainomenēn autǭ diēgēsin apodidous stēnai peirasetai pros tēn tōn Christianōn ekdochēn. ou pantōs men pistika legōn peirōmenos de to toiouto poiein.

Since after this the Jew in Celsus also reproaches Christians for appealing to the prophets who proclaimed beforehand what concerned Jesus, we shall say, in addition to what was said on this above, that he ought, sparing people as he claims, to have set out the prophecies themselves, and, after conceding their plausibility, to have set out what seemed to him the refutation of the use made of the prophetic writings. For in this way he would not have seemed to snatch at so great a question with a few trifling words, especially since he says that the prophecies can be applied to countless others much more plausibly than to Jesus. He ought to have taken a careful stand against this proof, which has prevailed among Christians as the strongest, and to have shown, prophecy by prophecy, how it can be applied to others much more plausibly than to Jesus. But he did not even see that, if this could plausibly be said against Christians by anyone, it could perhaps plausibly be said by those who are strangers to the prophetic writings; as it is, Celsus has put into the mouth of the Jew what a Jew would not say. For the Jew will not agree that the prophecies can be applied to countless others much more plausibly than to Jesus; but, giving what seems to him the interpretation of each, he will try to stand against the Christians' understanding, not saying things that are altogether convincing, but trying to do so.

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Summary: Origen criticizes Celsus for dismissing the argument from prophecy without examining a single prophecy, and for putting into a Jew's mouth what no Jew would say.

Topics: Scripture and canon, Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.28 (Koetschau 1:156–157; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-28).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.29Koetschau 1:157

Φθάσαντες δʼ ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω εἰρήκαμεν περὶ τοῦ τὸν Χριστὸν προφητεύεσθαι δύο ἐπιδημίαις χρησόμενον εἰς τὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων γένος· διόπερ οὐκέτι χρεία ἡμᾶς ἀπολογήσασθαι πρὸς τὸ λεγόμενον ὡς ὑπὸ τοῦ Ἰουδαίου, ὅτι μέγαν καὶ δυνάστην καὶ πάσης τῆς γῆς καὶ πάντων τῶν ἐθνῶν καὶ στρατοπέδων κύριόν φασιν οἱ προφῆται εἶναι τὸν ἐπιδημήσοντα. Ἰουδαϊκῶς δʼ οἶμαι εἶπε καὶ κατὰ τὴν ἐκείνων χολὴν μετὰ τοῦ χωρὶς ἀποδείξεως κἂν πιθανῶς λοιδορεῖν τὸν Ἰησοῦν. ὅτι οὐχὶ (δὲ) τοιοῦτον ὄλεθρον κατήγγειλαν. καίτοι οὔτε Ἰουδαῖοι οὔτε Κέλσος οὔτε ἄλλος τις μετὰ ἀποδείξεως ἔχει παραστῆσαι ὅτι ὄλεθρος τοσούτους ἀνθρώπους ἐπιστρέφει ἀπὸ τῆς χύσεως τῶν κακῶν ἐπὶ τὸν κατὰ φύσιν μετὰ σωφροσύνης καὶ τῶν λοιπῶν ἀρετῶν βίον.

Phthasantes dʼ en tois anōterō eirēkamen peri tou ton Christon prophēteuesthai dyo epidēmiais chrēsomenon eis to tōn anthrōpōn genos; dioper ouketi chreia hēmas apologēsasthai pros to legomenon hōs hypo tou Ioudaiou, hoti megan kai dynastēn kai pasēs tēs gēs kai pantōn tōn ethnōn kai stratopedōn kyrion phasin hoi prophētai einai ton epidēmēsonta. Ioudaïkōs dʼ oimai eipe kai kata tēn ekeinōn cholēn meta tou chōris apodeixeōs kan pithanōs loidorein ton Iēsoun. hoti ouchi (de) toiouton olethron katēngeilan. kaitoi oute Ioudaioi oute Kelsos oute allos tis meta apodeixeōs echei parastēsai hoti olethros tosoutous anthrōpous epistrephei apo tēs chyseōs tōn kakōn epi ton kata physin meta sōphrosynēs kai tōn loipōn aretōn bion.

We have already spoken above about the prophecy that the Christ would make two comings to the human race. So we no longer need to defend ourselves against what is said as if by the Jew, that the prophets say the one who will come will be great, a ruler, and lord of the whole earth and of all nations and armies. But I think he spoke in a Jewish manner and in keeping with their bitterness, in reviling Jesus without proof, not even plausibly, when he says that they did not proclaim “such a pest.” And yet neither the Jews nor Celsus nor anyone else can show with proof that a pest turns so many people from the flood of evils to a life according to nature, with self-control and the other virtues.

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Summary: Since Christ's two comings have been explained, Origen answers only the insult that Jesus was a “pest”: no pest turns so many people from vice to virtue.

  • The word ὄλεθρος (literally “destruction”) is used as an insult for a person, “a pest” or “a scourge.” The bracketed δὲ is an editorial supplement.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.29 (Koetschau 1:157; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-29).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.30Koetschau 1:157–158

Παρέῤῥιψε δʼ ὁ Κέλσος καὶ τό· θεὸν δὲ καὶ θεοῦ υἱὸν οὐδεὶς ἐκ τοιούτων συμβόλων καὶ παρακουσμάτων οὐδʼ ἐξ οὕτως ἀγεννῶν τεκμηρίων συνίστησιν. ἐχρῆν δὲ αὐτὸν τὰ παρακούσματα ἐκθέμενον ἐλέγξαι καὶ τὰ ἀγεννῆ τεκμήρια λόγῳ παραστῆσαι· ἵνʼ εἴ τι πιθανὸν ἐδόκει λέγειν ὁ Χριστιανὸς. ἀγωνίσασθαι πρὸς αὐτὸ πειραθῇ καὶ ἀνατρέψαι τὸν λόγον. ὅπερ δὲ εἶπε περὶ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ ἀπήντησε μὲν ὡς περὶ μεγάλου, οὐκ ἐβουλήθη δὲ ἰδεῖν ὅτι τοῦτʼ ἀπήντησεν. ὡς ἡ ἐνάργεια παρίστησι περὶ τοῦ Ἰησοῦ. ὡς γὰρ ὁ ἥλιος, φησὶ. πάντα τὰ ἄλλα φωτίζων πρῶτον αὑτὸν δεικνύει. οὕτως ἐχρῆν πεποιηκέναι τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ θεοῦ. εἴποιμεν ἂν οὖν ὅτι καὶ πεποίηκεν· „ἀνέτειλε“ γὰρ „ἐν ταῖς ἡμέραις αὐτοῦ δικαιοσύνη, καὶ πλῆθος εἰρήνης“ γέγονεν ἀρξάμενον ἀπὸ τῆς γενέσεως αὐτοῦ, εὐτρεπίζοντος τοῦ θεοῦ τῇ διδασκαλίᾳ αὐτοῦ τὰ ἔθνη, ἵνʼ ὑπὸ ἕνα γένηται τῶν Ῥωμαίων βασιλέα, καὶ μὴ διὰ τὸ προφάσει τῶν πολλῶν βασιλειῶν ἄμικτον τῶν ἐθνῶν πρὸς ἄλληλα χαλεπώτερον γένηται τοῖς ἀποστόλοις τοῦ Ἰησοῦ τὸ ποιῆσαι ὅπερ προσέταξεν αὐτοῖς ὁ Ἰησοῦς εἰπών· „πορευθέντες μαθητεύσατε πάντα τὰ ἔθνη.“ καὶ σαφές γε ὅτι κατὰ τὴν Αὐγούστου βασιλείαν ὁ Ἰησοῦς γεγέννηται, τοῦ. ἵνʼ οὕτως ὀνομάσω, ὁμαλίσαντος διὰ μιᾶς βασιλείας τοὺς πολλοὺς τῶν ἐπὶ γῆς. ἦν δʼ ἂν ἐμπόδιον τοῦ νεμηθῆναι τὴν Ἰησοῦ διδασκαλίαν εἰς πᾶσαν τὴν οἰκουμένην τὸ πολλὰς εἶναι βασιλείας οὐ μόνον διὰ τὰ προειρημένα ἀλλὰ καὶ διὰ τὸ ἀναγκάζεσθαι στρατεύεσθαι καὶ ὑπὲρ τῶν πατρίδων πολεμεῖν τοὺς πανταχοῦ· ὅ τε ἐγίνετο πρὸ τῶν Αὐγούστου χρόνων καὶ ἔτι γε ἀνωτέρω, ὅτε γε χρεία ἦν ὡς Πελοποννησίων καὶ Ἀθηναίων εἶναι πόλεμον οὕτω καὶ ἑτέρων πρὸς ἑτέρους. πῶς οὖν οἷόν τε ἦν τὴν εἰρηνικὴν ταύτην διδασκαλίαν καὶ μηδὲ ἐχθροὺς ἐπιτρέπουσαν ἀμύνεσθαι κρατῆσαι, εἰ μὴ τὰ τῆς οἰκουμένης τῇ Ἰησοῦ ἐπιδημίᾳ μετεβέβλητο πανταχοῦ ἐπὶ τὸ ἡμερώτερον;

Parerrhipse dʼ ho Kelsos kai to; theon de kai theou huion oudeis ek toioutōn symbolōn kai parakousmatōn oudʼ ex houtōs agennōn tekmēriōn synistēsin. echrēn de auton ta parakousmata ekthemenon elenxai kai ta agennē tekmēria logǭ parastēsai; hinʼ ei ti pithanon edokei legein ho Christianos. agōnisasthai pros auto peirathę̄ kai anatrepsai ton logon. hoper de eipe peri tou Iēsou apēntēse men hōs peri megalou, ouk eboulēthē de idein hoti toutʼ apēntēsen. hōs hē enargeia paristēsi peri tou Iēsou. hōs gar ho hēlios, phēsi. panta ta alla phōtizōn prōton hauton deiknyei. houtōs echrēn pepoiēkenai ton huion tou theou. eipoimen an oun hoti kai pepoiēken; „aneteile“ gar „en tais hēmerais autou dikaiosynē, kai plēthos eirēnēs“ gegonen arxamenon apo tēs geneseōs autou, eutrepizontos tou theou tę̄ didaskalią autou ta ethnē, hinʼ hypo hena genētai tōn Rhōmaiōn basilea, kai mē dia to prophasei tōn pollōn basileiōn amikton tōn ethnōn pros allēla chalepōteron genētai tois apostolois tou Iēsou to poiēsai hoper prosetaxen autois ho Iēsous eipōn; „poreuthentes mathēteusate panta ta ethnē.“ kai saphes ge hoti kata tēn Augoustou basileian ho Iēsous gegennētai, tou. hinʼ houtōs onomasō, homalisantos dia mias basileias tous pollous tōn epi gēs. ēn dʼ an empodion tou nemēthēnai tēn Iēsou didaskalian eis pasan tēn oikoumenēn to pollas einai basileias ou monon dia ta proeirēmena alla kai dia to anankazesthai strateuesthai kai hyper tōn patridōn polemein tous pantachou; ho te egineto pro tōn Augoustou chronōn kai eti ge anōterō, hote ge chreia ēn hōs Peloponnēsiōn kai Athēnaiōn einai polemon houtō kai heterōn pros heterous. pōs oun hoion te ēn tēn eirēnikēn tautēn didaskalian kai mēde echthrous epitrepousan amynesthai kratēsai, ei mē ta tēs oikoumenēs tę̄ Iēsou epidēmią metebeblēto pantachou epi to hēmerōteron?

Celsus also threw in this: “No one proves a god and son of God from such signs and misunderstandings, nor from such ignoble evidences.” But he ought to have set out the misunderstandings and refuted them, and to have shown by argument that the evidences were ignoble, so that, if the Christian seemed to say anything plausible, he might try to contend against it and overturn the argument. What he did say about Jesus, as though of something great, did in fact come to pass, but he would not see that it came to pass, as the evidence shows concerning Jesus. “For as the sun,” he says, “by illuminating everything else first shows itself, so the Son of God ought to have done.” We would say, then, that he did so. For “in his days righteousness dawned, and an abundance of peace” came about, beginning from his birth, as God prepared the nations for his teaching, so that they might come under one king of the Romans, and so that, through the lack of intercourse among nations caused by many kingdoms, it might not be harder for Jesus' apostles to do what Jesus commanded them when he said: “Go and make disciples of all the nations.” It is clear that Jesus was born in the reign of Augustus, who, so to speak, leveled the many peoples of the earth into one kingdom. The existence of many kingdoms would have been a hindrance to the spread of Jesus' teaching through the whole inhabited world, not only for the reasons stated but also because people everywhere were compelled to serve as soldiers and fight for their countries. This happened before the times of Augustus and still earlier, when there had to be war, as between the Peloponnesians and the Athenians, so also between other peoples. How then could this peaceful teaching, which does not allow even revenge on enemies, have prevailed, if the state of the world had not everywhere been changed to a gentler one at Jesus' coming?

Ps 72:7 (71:7 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:19 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Answering Celsus that the Son of God should have shone like the sun, Origen says he did, for the peace of Augustus's empire prepared the world for the spread of Jesus' teaching.

  • The quotations are Ps 72:7 (71:7 LXX) and Matt 28:19.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing letter in the digital text): Πελοποννσίων → Πελοποννησίων.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.30 (Koetschau 1:157–158; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-30).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.31Koetschau 1:158–159

Μετὰ ταῦτα Χριστιανοῖς ἐγκαλεῖ ὡς σοφιζομένοις ἐν τῷ λέγειν τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ θεοῦ εἶναι αὐτολόγον, καὶ οἴεταί γε κρατύνειν τὸ ἔγκλημα, ἐπεὶ λόγον ἐπαγγελλόμενοι υἱὸν εἶναι τοῦ θεοῦ ἀποδείκνυμεν οὐ λόγον καθαρὸν καὶ ἅγιον ἀλλὰ ἄνθρωπον ἀτιμότατα ἀπαχθέντα καὶ ἀποτυμπανισθέντα. καὶ περὶ τούτου δʼ ἐν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω ὡς ἐν ἐπιτομῇ πρὸς τὰς Κέλσου κατηγορίας εἴρηται· ἐν οἷς ἀπεδείκνυτο ὁ „πάσης κτίσεως“ „πρωτότοκος“ ἀνειληφὼς σῶμα καὶ ψυχὴν ἀνθρωπίνην, καὶ ὅτι ὁ θεὸς ἐνετείλατο περὶ τῶν τοσούτων ἐν κόσμῳ, καὶ ἐκτίσθη. καὶ ὅτι ὁ τὴν ἐντολὴν λαβὼν ὁ θεὸς λόγος ἦν. καὶ ἐπεὶ Ἰουδαῖός ἐστιν ὁ παρὰ τῷ Κέλσῳ ταῦτα λέγων, οὐκ ἀτόπως χρησόμεθα τῷ· „ἐξαπέστειλε τὸν λόγον αὐτοῦ καὶ ἰάσατο αὐτοὺς, καὶ ἐῤῥύσατο αὐτοὺς ἐκ τῶν διαφθορῶν αὐτῶν“· οὗ καὶ ἀνωτέρω ἐμνήσθημεν. ἐγὼ δὲ καὶ πολλοῖς Ἰουδαίοις καὶ σοφοῖς γε ἐπαγγελλομένοις εἶναι συμβαλὼν οὐδενὸς ἀκήκοα ἐπαινοῦντος τὸ λόγον εἶναι τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ θεοῦ, ὡς ὁ Κέλσος εἴρηκε, καὶ τοῦτο περιάπτων τῷ τοῦ Ἰουδαίου προσώπῳ λέγοντος· ὡς εἴ γε ὁ λόγος ἐστὶν ὑμῖν υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ, καὶ ἡμεῖς ἐπαινοῦμεν.

Meta tauta Christianois enkalei hōs sophizomenois en tǭ legein ton huion tou theou einai autologon, kai oietai ge kratynein to enklēma, epei logon epangellomenoi huion einai tou theou apodeiknymen ou logon katharon kai hagion alla anthrōpon atimotata apachthenta kai apotympanisthenta. kai peri toutou dʼ en tois anōterō hōs en epitomę̄ pros tas Kelsou katēgorias eirētai; en hois apedeiknyto ho „pasēs ktiseōs“ „prōtotokos“ aneilēphōs sōma kai psychēn anthrōpinēn, kai hoti ho theos eneteilato peri tōn tosoutōn en kosmǭ, kai ektisthē. kai hoti ho tēn entolēn labōn ho theos logos ēn. kai epei Ioudaios estin ho para tǭ Kelsǭ tauta legōn, ouk atopōs chrēsometha tǭ; „exapesteile ton logon autou kai iasato autous, kai errhysato autous ek tōn diaphthorōn autōn“; hou kai anōterō emnēsthēmen. egō de kai pollois Ioudaiois kai sophois ge epangellomenois einai symbalōn oudenos akēkoa epainountos to logon einai ton huion tou theou, hōs ho Kelsos eirēke, kai touto periaptōn tǭ tou Ioudaiou prosōpǭ legontos; hōs ei ge ho logos estin hymin huios tou theou, kai hēmeis epainoumen.

After this he accuses Christians of sophistry in saying that the Son of God is the very Word himself, and he thinks he strengthens the charge because, while announcing that the Son of God is the Word, we present not a pure and holy Word but a man most dishonorably arrested and put to death by torture. On this too we have spoken above, in summary, in reply to Celsus's accusations. There it was shown that the “firstborn” “of all creation” took a human body and soul, and that God gave the command concerning the many things in the world and they were created, and that the one who received the command was God the Word. And since the one saying these things in Celsus is a Jew, we shall not unfittingly use the words, “He sent out his Word and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions,” which we mentioned above too. But I have met many Jews, even ones who professed to be wise, and I have heard none approve the view that the Word is the Son of God, as Celsus has said, attributing this to the character of the Jew, who says: “As if, indeed, the Word is your son of God, we too approve it.”

Col 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 107:20 (106:20 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Origen defends calling the Son of God the Word, who took a human body and soul, and notes that no Jew he has met actually approves that the Word is God's Son, as Celsus's Jew claims.

  • The quotations are Col 1:15 and Ps 107:20 (106:20 LXX); the command by which things were created echoes Ps 148:5. Celsus's term αὐτολόγος means “the Word itself.” The verb ἀποτυμπανίζω denotes execution by beating or on a board; here of the crucifixion.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (missing accent and breathing in the digital text): ου καὶ ἀνωτέρω → οὗ καὶ ἀνωτέρω.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.31 (Koetschau 1:158–159; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-31).

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2.32Koetschau 1:159

Προείρηται δʼ ἡμῖν ὅτι οὔτʼ ἀλαζὼν οὔτε γόης δύναται εἶναι ὁ Ἰησοῦς· διὸ οὐκ ἀναγκαῖον ἐπαναλαμβάνειν τὰ εἰρημένα, ἵνα μὴ πρὸς τὰς ταυτολογίας Κέλσου καὶ ἡμεῖς ταυτολογῶμεν. ἐγκαλῶν δὲ τῇ γενεαλογίᾳ τὰ μὲν καὶ παρὰ Χριστιανοῖς ζητούμενα καὶ ὑπό τινων ὡς ἐγκλήματα προσαγόμενα τῇ διαφωνίᾳ τῶν γενεαλογιῶν οὐδαμῶς ὠνόμασεν. οὐ γὰρ ᾔδει ὁ ὡς ἀληθῶς ἀλαζὼν Κέλσος καὶ ἐπαγγελλόμενος εἰδέναι πάντα τὰ Χριστιανῶν φρονίμως ἐπαπορῆσαι τῇ γραφῇ. φησὶ δὲ ἀπηυθαδῆσθαι τοὺς γενεαλογήσαντας ἀπὸ τοῦ πρώτου φύντος καὶ τῶν ἐν Ἰουδαίοις βασιλέων τὸν Ἰησοῦν. καὶ οἴεταί τι εἰσφέρειν γενναῖον, ὅτι οὐκ ἂν ἡ τοῦ τέκτονος γυνὴ τηλικούτου γένους τυγχάνουσα ἠγνόει. τί γὰρ τοῦτο πρὸς τὸν λόγον; ἔστω ὅτι οὐκ ἠγνόει· τί λυπεῖ τὰ προκείμενα; ἀλλὰ ἀγνοείτω· πόθεν, ὅτι ἠγνόει, οὐκ ἦν ἀπὸ τοῦ πρώτου ἀνθρώπου καὶ οὐκ ἀνήγετο αὐτῆς τὸ γένος ἐπὶ τοὺς ἐν Ἰουδαίοις βασιλεύσαντας; ἢ ἀναγκαῖον οἴεται ὁ Κέλσος τοὺς πενεστέρους ἐκ πάντων πενεστέρων προγόνων γεγονέναι ἢ τοὺς βασιλεῖς ἐκ βασιλέων; διατρίβειν οὖν περὶ τὸν λόγον δοκεῖ μοι εἶναι μάταιον, φανεροῦ ὄντος ὅτι καὶ κατὰ τοὺς ἡμετέρους χρόνους ἐκ πλουσίων καὶ ἐνδόξων γεγόνασί τινες τῆς Μαρίας πενέστεροι καὶ ἐξ ἀσημοτάτων ἡγούμενοι ἐθνῶν καὶ βασιλεῖς.

Proeirētai dʼ hēmin hoti outʼ alazōn oute goēs dynatai einai ho Iēsous; dio ouk anankaion epanalambanein ta eirēmena, hina mē pros tas tautologias Kelsou kai hēmeis tautologōmen. enkalōn de tę̄ genealogią ta men kai para Christianois zētoumena kai hypo tinōn hōs enklēmata prosagomena tę̄ diaphōnią tōn genealogiōn oudamōs ōnomasen. ou gar ę̄dei ho hōs alēthōs alazōn Kelsos kai epangellomenos eidenai panta ta Christianōn phronimōs epaporēsai tę̄ graphę̄. phēsi de apēuthadēsthai tous genealogēsantas apo tou prōtou phyntos kai tōn en Ioudaiois basileōn ton Iēsoun. kai oietai ti eispherein gennaion, hoti ouk an hē tou tektonos gynē tēlikoutou genous tynchanousa ēgnoei. ti gar touto pros ton logon? estō hoti ouk ēgnoei; ti lypei ta prokeimena? alla agnoeitō; pothen, hoti ēgnoei, ouk ēn apo tou prōtou anthrōpou kai ouk anēgeto autēs to genos epi tous en Ioudaiois basileusantas? ē anankaion oietai ho Kelsos tous penesterous ek pantōn penesterōn progonōn gegonenai ē tous basileis ek basileōn? diatribein oun peri ton logon dokei moi einai mataion, phanerou ontos hoti kai kata tous hēmeterous chronous ek plousiōn kai endoxōn gegonasi tines tēs Marias penesteroi kai ex asēmotatōn hēgoumenoi ethnōn kai basileis.

We have already said that Jesus cannot be either a braggart or a sorcerer; so it is not necessary to repeat what has been said, lest we too repeat ourselves in reply to Celsus's repetitions. In finding fault with the genealogy he did not mention at all the questions that are raised among Christians too, and that some bring as charges, concerning the disagreement between the genealogies. For Celsus, who is truly a braggart and professes to know everything about Christians, did not know how to raise difficulties about Scripture intelligently. He says that those who traced Jesus' genealogy from the first man and from the kings among the Jews were arrogant. And he thinks he brings forward something fine, that the carpenter's wife, if she had been of so great a lineage, would not have been unaware of it. What has this to do with the argument? Suppose she was not unaware: what harm does that do to our case? But let her be unaware: why, because she was unaware, was she not descended from the first man, and did her line not go back to those who reigned among the Jews? Or does Celsus think it necessary that poorer people are born from ancestors who were all poorer, or kings from kings? It seems to me idle to spend time on this argument, since it is plain that even in our own times some people poorer than Mary have been born of rich and famous families, and leaders and kings of the most obscure nations.

Matt 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 3:23 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Origen answers Celsus's objection to Jesus' royal genealogy: poor people can descend from kings, and Celsus ignores the real difficulties about the genealogies that Christians themselves discuss.

  • The genealogies are Matt 1:1–17 and Luke 3:23–38 (the latter traced to Adam).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (wrong breathing and accent in the digital text): ἱνα μὴ πρὸς → ἵνα μὴ πρὸς.

Topics: Christology, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.32 (Koetschau 1:159; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-32).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.

2.33Koetschau 1:159–160

Τί δὲ, φησὶ, καὶ γενναῖον ἔδρασεν οἷον θεὸς, καταφρονῶν ἀνθρώπων καὶ διαγελῶν καὶ παίζων τὸ συμβαῖνον ὁ Ἰησοῦς; πυνθανομένῳ δὴ αὐτῷ πόθεν ἂν ἀποκρινοίμεθα. κἂν ἔχωμεν παριστάνειν τὸ γενναῖον καὶ τὸ παράδοξον ἐπὶ τοῖς συμβεβηκόσιν αὐτῷ. ἢ ἀπὸ τῶν εὐαγγελίων. ὅτι „ἡ γῆ ἐσείσθη καὶ αἱ πέτραι ἐσχίσθησαν καὶ τὰ μνημεῖα ἠνεῴχθη“ „καὶ τὸ καταπέτασμα τοῦ ναοῦ ἐσχίσθη ἀπὸ ἄνωθεν ἕως κάτω“ „καὶ σκοτία ἐγένετο“ ἐν καιρῷ ἡμέρας „τοῦ ἡλίου ἐκλιπόντος“; ἀλλʼ ἐὰν πιστεύῃ μὲν τοῖς εὐαγγελίοις ὁ Κέλσος, ὅπου κατηγορεῖν καὶ Χριστιανῶν οἴεται. ἀπιστῇ δὲ ἐπὶ τῶν συνιστάντων τὴν ἐν Ἰησοῦ θεότητα, φήσομεν αὐτῷ· ὦ οὗτος, ἢ πᾶσιν ἀπίστει καὶ μηδʼ ἐγκαλεῖν νόμιζε. ἢ πιστεύων πᾶσι θαύμαζε θεοῦ λόγον ἐνανθρωπήσαντα καὶ ὅλον τὸ τῶν ἀνθρώπων γένος ὠφελῆσαι βουληθέντα. γενναῖον δʼ ἔργον τοῦ Ἰησοῦ τὸ μέχρι σήμερον θεραπεύεσθαι τῷ ὀνόματι αὐτοῦ οὓς ὁ θεὸς βούλεται. περὶ δὲ τῆς ἐπὶ Τιβερίου Καίσαρος ἐκλείψεως, οὗ βασιλεύοντος καὶ ὁ Ἰησοῦς ἔοικεν ἐσταυρῶσθαι. καὶ περὶ τῶν μεγάλων τότε γενομένων σεισμῶν τῆς γῆς ἀνέγραψε καὶ Φλέγων ἐν τῷ τρισκαιδεκάτῳ ἢ τῷ τεσσαρεσκαιδεκάτῳ οἶμαι τῶν Χρονικῶν.

Ti de, phēsi, kai gennaion edrasen hoion theos, kataphronōn anthrōpōn kai diagelōn kai paizōn to symbainon ho Iēsous? pynthanomenǭ dē autǭ pothen an apokrinoimetha. kan echōmen paristanein to gennaion kai to paradoxon epi tois symbebēkosin autǭ. ē apo tōn euangeliōn. hoti „hē gē eseisthē kai hai petrai eschisthēsan kai ta mnēmeia ēneǭchthē“ „kai to katapetasma tou naou eschisthē apo anōthen heōs katō“ „kai skotia egeneto“ en kairǭ hēmeras „tou hēliou eklipontos“? allʼ ean pisteuę̄ men tois euangeliois ho Kelsos, hopou katēgorein kai Christianōn oietai. apistę̄ de epi tōn synistantōn tēn en Iēsou theotēta, phēsomen autǭ; ō houtos, ē pasin apistei kai mēdʼ enkalein nomize. ē pisteuōn pasi thaumaze theou logon enanthrōpēsanta kai holon to tōn anthrōpōn genos ōphelēsai boulēthenta. gennaion dʼ ergon tou Iēsou to mechri sēmeron therapeuesthai tǭ onomati autou hous ho theos bouletai. peri de tēs epi Tiberiou Kaisaros ekleipseōs, hou basileuontos kai ho Iēsous eoiken estaurōsthai. kai peri tōn megalōn tote genomenōn seismōn tēs gēs anegrapse kai Phlegōn en tǭ triskaidekatǭ ē tǭ tessareskaidekatǭ oimai tōn Chronikōn.

“What noble deed did Jesus do,” he says, “like a god, despising men and laughing and making sport of what befell him?” To his question, where should we answer from, even if we are able to show the noble and marvelous in what befell him, but from the Gospels? That “the earth shook and the rocks were split and the tombs were opened,” “and the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom,” “and darkness came” in the daytime “as the sun failed.” But if Celsus believes the Gospels where he thinks he can accuse Christians, and disbelieves them where they establish the divinity in Jesus, we shall say to him: “Sir, either disbelieve them all and do not think to accuse us, or, believing them all, marvel at the Word of God who became man and wished to benefit the whole human race.” A noble deed of Jesus is that to this day those whom God wills are healed in his name. As for the eclipse in the reign of Tiberius Caesar, in whose reign Jesus seems to have been crucified, and the great earthquakes that took place then, Phlegon too recorded them, in the thirteenth or fourteenth book, I think, of his Chronicles.

Matt 27:51 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 27:52 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 15:38 (quotation, medium confidence) · Luke 23:44 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 23:45 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Origen points to the signs at Jesus' death recorded in the Gospels and by the historian Phlegon, and to healings still done in Jesus' name, as his noble deeds.

  • The quotations are Matt 27:51–52, Matt 27:51 (Mark 15:38), and Luke 23:44–45. Phlegon of Tralles wrote Olympiads (Chronicles) in the second century; the work survives only in fragments, and Origen himself is unsure of the book number.

Extrabiblical texts: Phlegon (Phlegon of Tralles, Chronicles; allusion)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 2.33 (Koetschau 1:159–160; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/2-17/#p-2-33).

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.