Sermons to the People 361.19–362.13
Latin text: PL 38 (Latin text: Migne, PL 38, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/6: Sermons on Selected Lessons of the New Testament (R. G. MacMullen, ed., 1888).
Chapter 361
361.19PL 39:1580
Restat ut dicamus qualis erit in resurrectione vita justorum. Sed quia jam hodie moderatum tempus videtis assumptum, id quod reddidimus ruminate: hoc autem quod debemus, orate ut aliquando reddamus. Illud maxime tenete quare locuti sumus, præsertim propter dies festos istos, fratres mei, quos Pagani celebrant. Attendite vobis: transit hic mundus, recordamini Evangelium ubi prædicit Dominus sic futurum novissimum diem, quomodo in diebus Noe. Manducabant et bibebant, emebant et vendebant, uxores ducebant, nubebant, donec intravit Noe in arcam; venit diluvium, et perdidit omnes. Habetis apertissime Dominum præmonentem, et alio loco dicentem, Non graventur corda vestra in crapula et ebrietate. Sint lumbi vestri accincti, et lucernæ ardentes; et similes estote pueris exspectantibus dominum suum, quando veniat a nuptiis (Id. XII, 35, 36). Exspectemus eum venturum, non nos torpentes inveniat. Turpe est mulieri conjugatæ non desiderare virum suum: quanto turpius Ecclesiæ non desiderare Christum? Venit vir ad carnales amplexus, et magnis votis castae uxoris accipitur: venturus est sponsus Ecclesiae ad tradendos aeternos amplexus, ad faciendos nos sibi sempiternos cohæredes, et nos ita vivimus, ut ejus adventum non solum non desideremus, sed etiam timeamus! Quam verum est quod sic venturus est dies ille, quomodo in diebus Noe? Quam multos sic inventurus est, et eos qui christiani appellantur! Ideo per tot annos aedificatur arca, ut evigilent qui non credunt (Gen. VI). Per centum annos illa ædificata est, et non evigilaverunt ut dicerent, Non sine causa homo Dei arcam ædificat, nisi quia imminet exitium generi humano; et placarent iram Dei, conversi ad mores qui placent Deo, quomodo fecerunt Ninivitæ. Fecerunt enim fructum pœnitentiae, et propitiaverunt iram Dei.
It remains for us to say what the life of the just will be like in the resurrection. But since you see that a reasonable amount of time has already been taken today, ruminate on what we have paid: as for what we owe, pray that we may pay it some day. Hold above all why we have spoken, especially because of these feast days, my brothers, which the pagans celebrate. Look to yourselves: this world passes; remember the Gospel where the Lord foretells that the last day will come as in the days of Noah. They ate and drank, they bought and sold, they married, they were given in marriage, until Noah entered the ark; the flood came and destroyed them all. You have the Lord most plainly warning beforehand, and saying in another place, “Let not your hearts be weighed down with gluttony and drunkenness. Let your loins be girded and your lamps burning; and be like servants waiting for their master, when he returns from the wedding.” Let us wait for him to come; let him not find us sluggish. It is shameful for a married woman not to long for her husband: how much more shameful for the Church not to long for Christ? A husband comes for fleshly embraces, and is received with great longing by his chaste wife: the bridegroom of the Church is to come to give eternal embraces, to make us his everlasting co-heirs, and we live in such a way that we not only do not long for his coming but even fear it! How true it is that that day will come as in the days of Noah! How many will he find so, even of those who are called Christians! That is why the ark was built for so many years, so that those who do not believe might wake up. It was built for a hundred years, and they did not wake up to say, “Not without cause does the man of God build an ark, but because destruction threatens the human race”; and they did not appease God's wrath, turning to the conduct that pleases God, as the Ninevites did. For they brought forth the fruit of repentance and propitiated God's wrath.
Matt 24:37–39 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 17:26–28 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 21:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:35–36 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 6:14–22 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Pet 3:20 (allusion, medium confidence) · Jonah 3:5–10 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Postponing the second question, Augustine warns against the pagan festival days: the last day will come as in Noah's time, and the Church should long for Christ her bridegroom and repent like the Ninevites.
- The pagan feasts referred to are probably the New Year festivities (Kalends of January).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and footnote mark; OCR slips; OCR slips in the reference): jam bodie moderatum → jam hodie moderatum; id qund reddidimus → id quod reddidimus; Illud maxime tencte → Illud maxime tenete; novissimum dicm. quomodo → novissimum diem, quomodo; lucernce ardentes 1; → lucernæ ardentes;; (ld. XII, 35, 3G ) → (Id. XII, 35, 36); Exspectemus cum venturum → Exspectemus eum venturum; mulieri conjugatse non desidcrare → mulieri conjugatæ non desiderare; ( Gen. vi). Pcr centum → (Gen. VI). Per centum; causa horno Dei → causa homo Dei; quomodo feccerunt Ninivitæ → quomodo fecerunt Ninivitæ.
Topics: Eschatology, Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 361.19 (PL 39:1580; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-19
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
361.20PL 39:1580–1581
Annuntiavit Jonas, non misericordiam, sed iram futuram: non enim dixit, Triduo, et Ninive evertetur; si autem pœnitentiam in isto triduo egeritis, parcet vobis Deus: non dixit hoc. Eversionem solam minatus est, et prænuntiavit: et tamen illi de Dei misericordia non desperantes, converterunt se ad pœnitendum; et pepercit Deus (Jonæ III ). Sed quid dicemus? quia Propheta mentitus est? Si carnaliter intelligas, falsum videtur dixisse: si spiritualiter intelligas, factum est quod dixit Propheta. Eversa est enim Ninive. Attende quid erat Ninive, et vide quia eversa est. Quid erat Ninive? Manducabant et bibebant, emebant, vendebant, plantabant, ædificabant, perjuriis vacabant, mendaciis, ebrietatibus, facinoribus corruptionibus: hæc erat Ninive. Attende modo Ninive: plangunt, dolent, contristantur, in cilicio et cinere, in jejuniis et orationibus. Ubi est illa Ninive? Nempe eversa est, quia non in illis superioribus actibus constituta est.
Jonah announced not mercy but wrath to come: for he did not say, “Three days, and Nineveh will be overthrown; but if you do penance in these three days, God will spare you”: he did not say this. He threatened and foretold only overthrow: and yet they, not despairing of God's mercy, turned to repentance; and God spared them. But what shall we say? That the prophet lied? If you understand it carnally, he seems to have said something false; if you understand it spiritually, what the prophet said came about. For Nineveh was overthrown. Consider what Nineveh was, and see that it was overthrown. What was Nineveh? They ate and drank, they bought, sold, planted, built, they were given to perjuries, lies, drunkenness, crimes, corruptions: this was Nineveh. Now look at Nineveh: they lament, they grieve, they are sorrowful, in sackcloth and ashes, in fasts and prayers. Where is that Nineveh? Surely it has been overthrown, because it is no longer set in those former deeds.
Jonah 3:4–10 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 17:28 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Jonah's prophecy that Nineveh would be overthrown came true spiritually: the sinful city was overturned when its people repented in sackcloth and fasting.
- Augustine's Latin of Jonah 3:4 reads “three days” with the Septuagint (Hebrew: forty days).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slip; OCR slips; split word): Ninive juxta prophetiam eversa, sed per pœnitentiam. Annuntiavit Jonas, non miscricordiam → Annuntiavit Jonas, non misericordiam; si spiritualiter in. telligas → si spiritualiter intelligas; Eversa ost enim → Eversa est enim; ædificabart, perjuriis vacubant, mendaciis, ebrietalibus → ædificabant, perjuriis vacabant, mendaciis, ebrietatibus; hæc crat Ninivc → hæc erat Ninive; Ubi est ilia Ninive? Nempe eversa cst, quia non in illis supcrioribus actibus constituta cst → Ubi est illa Ninive? Nempe eversa est, quia non in illis superioribus actibus constituta est.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 361.20 (PL 39:1580–1581; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-20
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
361.21PL 39:1581
Ergo, fratres, et modo ædificatur arca, et illi centum anni tempora ista sunt: totus iste tractus temporis illo annorum numero significatus est. Si ergo digne perierunt, qui Noe ædificante arcam dissimulaverunt; quid digni sunt, qui Christo ædificante Ecclesiam a salute dissimulant? Tantum interest inter Noe et Christum, quantum inter servum et Dominum; imo vero, quantum inter Deum et hominem. Nam servus et dominus possunt et duo homines dici. Et tamen quia homine ædificante arcam non crediderunt homines, datum est de illis cavendum exemplum posteris. Christus Deus propter nos homo ædificat Ecclesiam; illi arcæ fundamentum se ipsum posuit: quotidie ligna imputribilia, fideles homines renuntiantes huic sæculo, intrant in arcae compaginem; et adhuc dicitur, Manducemus et bibamus; cras enim morimur? Vos ergo, ut dixi, fratres, contra illos dicite, Jejunemus et oremus; cras enim morimur. Illi enim dicunt, Manducemus et bibamus; cras enim morimur, qui resurrectionem non sperant: nos autem qui jam resurrectionem et loquentibus Prophetis, et prædicante Christo et Apostolis credimus et annuntiamus, qui speramus nos post istam mortem victuros, non deliciemur, nec corda nostra oneremus crapula et ebrietatibus; sed solliciti exspectantes, accincti lumbis et lucernis ardentibus, adventum Domini nostri, jejunemus et oremus, non ideo quia cras moriemur, sed ut securi moriamur. Quod restat ergo, fratres, in nomine Domini alio tempore a nobis exigite. Conversi ad Dominum, etc.
So, brothers, now too the ark is being built, and those hundred years are these times: this whole stretch of time is signified by that number of years. If, then, those deservedly perished who ignored it while Noah built the ark, what do those deserve who, while Christ builds the Church, ignore salvation? There is as much difference between Noah and Christ as between servant and Lord; or rather, as between God and man. For servant and master can also be called two men. And yet, because men did not believe while a man built the ark, an example to beware of was given from them to those who came after. Christ, God, made man for us, builds the Church; he laid himself as the foundation of that ark: every day incorruptible timbers, faithful men renouncing this world, enter the fabric of the ark; and is it still said, “Let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we die”? You, then, as I said, brothers, say against them, “Let us fast and pray; for tomorrow we die.” For those say, “Let us eat and drink; for tomorrow we die,” who do not hope for the resurrection: but we who already believe and proclaim the resurrection, as the prophets spoke and Christ and the apostles preached, who hope that we shall live after this death, let us not live in luxury, nor weigh down our hearts with gluttony and drunkenness; but anxiously waiting, with loins girded and lamps burning, for the coming of our Lord, let us fast and pray, not because tomorrow we shall die, but so that we may die secure. What remains, then, brothers, demand from us at another time in the name of the Lord. Turning to the Lord, etc.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 6:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Pet 3:20–21 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 3:11 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:32 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 21:34 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 12:35–36 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 6:14 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The building of Noah's ark figures the present building of the Church by Christ; those who ignore it now are more culpable, and Christians should fast and pray so as to die secure, awaiting the Lord.
- “Turning to the Lord, etc.” is the opening of Augustine's usual closing prayer, abbreviated in the manuscripts. The promised second part is Sermon 362.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break hyphen and OCR slip): Reprehensione digniores qui nunc Christo ædificante Ecclesiam non convertuntur, quam qui olim Noc ædificante arcam, Ergo, fratres, et nwdo ædificatur → Ergo, fratres, et modo ædificatur; tractus temporis ilio annorum numcro significatus cst → tractus temporis illo annorum numero significatus est; qui Noc ædificante arcam dissimulaverunt → qui Noe ædificante arcam dissimulaverunt; a salute dissimutant? Tantum interest inter Noc et Christum → a salute dissimulant? Tantum interest inter Noe et Christum; Nam servus ct dominus → Nam servus et dominus; non credidcrunt homines, datum esi de illis cavendum cxemplurn → non crediderunt homines, datum est de illis cavendum exemplum; ædificat Ecclesinm → ædificat Ecclesiam; quolidie ligna → quotidie ligna; renuntiantes hnic sæculo, intrant in arcae compagincm; et adhuc dkiiur → renuntiantes huic sæculo, intrant in arcae compaginem; et adhuc dicitur; Jejuncmus et oremus → Jejunemus et oremus; loquentibus Prophetis, ct prædicante → loquentibus Prophetis, et prædicante; credimus et annun- Hamus → credimus et annuntiamus; non dcliciamus → non deliciemur; jcjunemus et oremus → jejunemus et oremus.
Topics: Eschatology, Fasting, Prayer
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 361.21 (PL 39:1581; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/361-21
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
Chapter 362
362.1PL 39:1581
In memoria retinentes pollicitationem nostram, congruas etiam ex Evangelio et Apostolo fecimus recitari lectiones. Quicumque enim vestrum præterito sermoni adfuerunt, recordantur nobiscum propositam de resurrectione quæstionem in geminam disputationem a nobis distributam: ut primo dissereremus, propter eos qui dubitant, vel etiam qui negant, utrum futura sit resurrectio mortuorum; postea vero, quantum possumus, secundum Scripturas quæreremus, qualis in resurrectione futura sit vita justorum. In prima ergo parte ubi tractavimus quod resurgant mortui, tam diu sumus immorati, sicut meminisse dignamini, ut secundæ quæstioni tractandæ tempus deficeret, atque ita eam in hunc diem differre cogeremur. Hoc ergo a nobis debitum vestra poscit intentio, et nos reddendi tempus agnoscimus. Pariter ergo pia cordis intentione Dominum deprecemur, ut et nos opportune solvamus debitum, et vos salubriter recipiatis. Est enim hæc, quod fatendum est, major quæstio: sed omnibus quæstionibus difficilibus fortior est charitas, cui omnes servire debemus, ut Deus qui hoc praecepit, omnes nostras difficultates in facilitatem gaudiumque convertat.
Keeping our promise in mind, we have also had suitable readings read from the Gospel and the apostle. Those of you who were present at the previous sermon remember with us that the question set before us about the resurrection was divided by us into two discussions: first we would discuss, for the sake of those who doubt or even deny it, whether there will be a resurrection of the dead; afterwards we would inquire, as far as we can and according to the Scriptures, what the life of the righteous will be like in the resurrection. In the first part, then, where we treated the rising of the dead, we lingered so long, as you are good enough to remember, that time ran out for treating the second question, and so we were forced to put it off to this day. Your attention, then, demands this debt of us, and we recognize the time for paying it. Let us therefore pray to the Lord together with devout attention of heart, that we may pay the debt opportunely and you may receive it to your salvation. For this is, it must be admitted, the greater question; but love is stronger than all difficult questions, love which we all ought to serve, so that God, who commanded it, may turn all our difficulties into ease and joy.
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine takes up the second half of a promised discussion of the resurrection: what the life of the righteous will be like.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ex Evangdio et → ex Evangelio et; propter cos qui → propter eos qui; sit viia justorum → sit vita justorum; dignainini → dignamini; atque ita cam in → atque ita eam in; opporume → opportune; major quastio → major quæstio.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.1 (PL 39:1581; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-1
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.2PL 39:1581
Meministis esse a nobis illo die responsum quibusdam dicentibus, sicut Apostolus eos arguit, Manducemus et bibamus; cras enim morimur: subjungens et dicens, Corrumpunt bonos mores colloquia mala; atque ita concludens, Sobrii estote, justi, et nolite peccare: ignorantiam enim Dei quidam habent; ad reverentiam vobis loquor. Hæc verba apostolica omnes audierimus, et cordi mandaverimus: et quisquis audierit, et cordi mandaverit, opera indicent. Qui audit enim, tanquam ager est semen excipiens seminantis: qui autem cordi mandat, similis est glebam frangenti, et quod seminatum est operienti: qui autem secundum id quod audivit et cordi mandavit operatur, ipse est. qui surgit in messem, et fructum affert cum tolerantia, aliud tricenum, aliud sexagenum, aliud centenum. Huic non ignis velut paleae, sed horrea sicut frumento præparantur. in ipsis ergo abditis horreis, in resurrectione mortuorum beatitudo est illa perpetua etiam ipsa secreta justorum, quo eos recipiendos Scriptura commendat.
You remember that on that day we answered certain people who say, as the apostle rebukes them, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die"; he adds, "Bad conversations corrupt good morals," and so concludes, "Be sober, you righteous, and do not sin; for some have no knowledge of God; I say this to your shame." May we all have heard these apostolic words and committed them to heart; and whoever has heard them and committed them to heart, let his works show it. For one who hears is like a field receiving the sower's seed; one who commits it to heart is like a man breaking the clods and covering what has been sown; but one who acts on what he has heard and committed to heart is the one who rises up into the harvest and bears fruit with endurance, some thirtyfold, some sixtyfold, some a hundredfold. For him not fire, as for chaff, but barns, as for wheat, are made ready. In those hidden barns, then, in the resurrection of the dead, is that everlasting blessedness, itself the secret place of the righteous, into which Scripture tells us they are to be received.
1 Cor 15:32 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:33 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 13:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 8:15 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 3:12 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Recalling the previous sermon's rebuke of those who deny the resurrection, Augustine compares hearers to fields and the blessed life of the righteous to hidden barns.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): sicnt Apostolus → sicut Apostolus; Manducemus ei bibamus → Manducemus et bibamus; bonoa mores → bonos mores; eslote → estote; reveretitiam → reverentiam; excipicns → excipiens; opcricnti → operienti; tolcrantia → tolerantia.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.2 (PL 39:1581; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-2
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.3PL 39:1581–1582
Vasorum etiam nomine alio loco commemoravit, quando ait Dominus Jesus Christus, simile esse regnum coelorum sagenæ, id est, retibus; retia enim quaedam sagena appellantur. Simile ergo est, inquit, regnum coelorum sagenæ missæ in mare, et ex omni genere congreganti: quæ cum impleta esset, educentes, et secus littus sedentes, elegerunt bonos in vasa, malos autem foras miserunt. Significare voluit Dominus noster modo sic mitti verbum Dei super populos et super gentes, quomodo sagena in mare jacitur. Colligit autem modo sacramentis christianis et bonos et malos: sed non omnes quos sagena tollit, etiam vasculis reconduntur. Vascula enim sunt sanctorum sedes, et beatæ vitæ magna secreta, quo non poterunt omnes pervenire quicumque christiani appellantur, sed qui sic appellantur, ut sint. Sane autem boni et mali pisces intra sagenam natant, et boni tolerant malos, donec in fine separentur. Dictum cst etiam quodam loco, Abscondes eos in abscondito vultus tui ( Psal. xxx, 21): loquebatur enim de sanctis. Abscondes eos, inquit, in abscondito vultus tui: id est, quo non possunt sequi oculi hominum, neque cogitationes mortalium; secreta quædam significans nimis abscondita nimis occulta in abscondito vultus Dei dixit. Numquid carnaliter cogitandum est habere Dcum quamdam faciem grandem, et in facie ejus esse aiiquod receptaculum corporale, ubi sancii abscondendi sunt? Haec videtis, fratres, quemadmodum carnalia sint, et ab omnium fidclium corde respuenda. Absconditum ergo vultus Dci quid oportet intelligi, nisi quod tantummodo vultui Dei cognitum est?Cum ergo dicuntur horrea, ut significentur secreta, et alio loco dicuntur vascula; neque horrea sunt quae novimus, neque vascula. Nam si aliquid unuin tale esset, alterum aliquid non diceretur. Sed quia per similitudines hominibus notas, ut possunt, insinuantur incognita, ad hoc utrumque nominatum accipite, ut secretum intelligatis, et horrei nomine et vasculorum. Sed si quæritis quale secretum, audite Prophetam dicentem, Abscondes eos in abscondito vultus tui.
Scripture has also referred to them in another place by the name of vessels, when the Lord Jesus Christ says that the kingdom of heaven is like a sagena, that is, a net; for a certain kind of net is called a sagena. "The kingdom of heaven," he says, "is like a net cast into the sea and gathering fish of every kind; when it was full, they drew it out, and sitting on the shore they chose the good into vessels, but threw the bad away." Our Lord meant to signify that the word of God is now sent out over peoples and nations as a net is cast into the sea. It now gathers both good and bad by the Christian sacraments; but not all whom the net takes up are also stored in the vessels. For the vessels are the dwelling places of the saints and the great secret places of the blessed life, which not all who are called Christians will be able to reach, but only those who are so called in such a way that they are what they are called. Good and bad fish do indeed swim inside the net, and the good bear with the bad until they are separated at the end. It has also been said in a certain place, "You will hide them in the hiding place of your face"; for he was speaking of the saints. "You will hide them," he says, "in the hiding place of your face": that is, where the eyes of men cannot follow, nor the thoughts of mortals; meaning certain secret places, very hidden and very concealed, he said "in the hiding place of the face of God." Are we to think carnally that God has some great face, and that in his face there is some bodily receptacle where the saints are to be hidden? You see, brothers, how carnal these thoughts are, and how they are to be rejected from the hearts of all the faithful. What then should "the hiding place of God's face" be understood to mean, except what is known only to the face of God? Since, then, they are called barns, to signify secret places, and in another place they are called vessels, they are neither the barns we know nor the vessels. For if it were some one such thing, some other thing would not be named. But because unknown things are conveyed, as far as they can be, through likenesses known to men, take it that both were named for this purpose: that by the name of barn and by the name of vessels you may understand a secret place. But if you ask what kind of secret place, hear the prophet saying, "You will hide them in the hiding place of your face."
Matt 13:47–48 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 31:20 (30:21 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The barns and the vessels of the parable of the net both signify the hidden dwelling of the saints, the "hiding place of God's face," which is not to be pictured carnally.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): appellautur → appellantur; in marc jacitur → in mare jacitur; suni sanctorum → sunt sanctorum; Abscondes eoa, inquit → Abscondes eos, inquit; Abscondes eoa in abscondito → Abscondes eos in abscondito; Haec vidclis → Haec videtis; Prophetnm → Prophetam.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.3 (PL 39:1581–1582; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.4PL 39:1582
Quæ cum ita sint, fratres, in hac adhuc vita peregrinamur, adhuc in illam nescio quam patriam fide suspiramus. Et quare nescio quam, unde cives sumus, nisi quia in longinqua peregrinando obliti eam sumus, ut patriam nostram possimus dicere nescio quam? Hanc oblivionem expellit de corde Dominus Christus, rex ipsius patriæ, veniens ad peregrinos; et susceptione carnis divinitas ejus fit nobis via, ut per hominem Christum pergamus, et in Deo Christo maneamus. Quid ergo, fratres? secretum illud, quod nec oculus vidit, nec auris audivit, nec in cor hominis ascendit, quo eloquio vobis explicaturi sumus, aut quo oculo nos visuri? Possumus aliquid aliquando nosse, quod eloqui tamen non possumus: quod autem non novimus, aliquando eloqui non valemus. Cum ergo fieri possit ut si ego illa nossem, eloqui ea vobis non possem; quanto difficilius eloquium meum erit, quando et ego, fratres, vobiscum per fidem ambulo, nondum per speciem? Sed hoc ego, an et ipse Apostolus? Nam consolatur ignorantiam nostram, et aedificat fidem, dicens: Fratres, ego me non arbitror apprehendisse. Unum autem, quæ retro oblitus, in ea quæ ante sunt extentus, secundum intentionem sequor ad palmam supernæ vocationis (Philipp. III, 13 et 14): unde se demonstrat in via esse. Et alio loco: Quamdiu sumus, inquit, in corpore, peregrinamur a Domino: per fidem enim ambulamus, non per speciem. Et iterum: Spe enim, inquit, salvi facti sumus. Spes autem quæ videtur, non est spes: quod enim videt quis, quid sperat? Si autem quod non videmus speramus, per patientiam exspectamus.
Since this is so, brothers, we are still pilgrims in this life; we still sigh by faith for that homeland, I know not what. And why "I know not what," when we are its citizens, unless because, wandering far away on pilgrimage, we have forgotten it, so that we can speak of our homeland as "I know not what"? This forgetfulness the Lord Christ, the king of that homeland, drives out of our heart, coming to the pilgrims; and by his taking of flesh his divinity becomes for us the way, so that we may travel on through Christ the man and abide in Christ who is God. What then, brothers? That secret which "eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has it gone up into the heart of man": with what eloquence are we going to explain it to you, or with what eye are we going to see it? We can sometimes know something which we still cannot express; but what we do not know we can never express. Since, then, it could be that even if I knew those things I could not express them to you, how much harder will speaking be for me when I too, brothers, walk with you by faith, not yet by sight? But is this only I, or the apostle himself too? For he consoles our ignorance and builds up our faith, saying: "Brothers, I do not consider that I have laid hold of it. But one thing: forgetting what lies behind, stretched out toward what lies ahead, I press on in purpose toward the prize of the upward calling"; and so he shows that he is on the way. And in another place: "As long as we are in the body," he says, "we are on pilgrimage away from the Lord; for we walk by faith, not by sight." And again: "For in hope," he says, "we have been saved. But hope that is seen is not hope; for why does anyone hope for what he sees? But if we hope for what we do not see, we wait for it with patience."
John 14:6 (echo, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 2:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:13–14 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:6–7 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:24–25 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: As pilgrims who walk by faith and not by sight, neither Augustine nor even Paul can describe the hidden life to come as one who already knows it.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip in the reference): Ilanc oblivionem → Hanc oblivionem; susceptione earnis → susceptione carnis; mancamus → maneamus; nee auris → nec auris; eloquium meam → eloquium meum; nondurn → nondum; in ea quas ante sunt → in ea quæ ante sunt; intentionen. sequor → intentionem sequor; III, i3 et 14 → III, 13 et 14; non eat spes → non est spes.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.4 (PL 39:1582; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-4
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.5PL 39:1582
Sic ergo, fratres, audite a me vocem quæ est in Psalmis, piam, humilem, mansuetam, non elatam, non turbulentam, non praecipitem, non temerariam. Ait enim quodam in loco Psalmus: Credidi, propter quod locutus sum. Et interposuit hoc testimonium Apostolus, atque subjecit: Et nos credimus, propter quod et loquimur ( Psal. cxv, 10, et II Cor. IV, 13). Vultis ergo ea me dicere quae novi? Non vos fallo, audite quod credidi. Non vobis vilescat, quia quod credidi auditis: auditis enim veracem confessionem. Si autem dicerem, Audite quod novi; audiretis temerariam præsumptionem. Si ergo, fratres, omnes nos, et, ut credimus sanctorum literis, omnes etiam qui ante nos in carne vixerunt, et per quos loquens Spiritus Dei distribuit hominibus tantum quantum satis esset significari peregrinantibus, omnes quod credimus loquimur: Dominus autem ipse, quæ noverat Quid igitur, si solus Dominus de vita in æternum futura nossc poterat quod dicebat; alii vero sequentes Dominum, ideo quia credidcrunt? Invenimus ipsum Dominum nostrum Jcsum Christum, scientem quid loqueretur, non dicentem tamen. Ait enim quodam in loco discipulis suis: Adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere; sed non potestis illa portare modo. Ille propter illorum infirmitatem, non propter suam difficultatem, quod noverat dicere differebat. Nos autem propter communem omnium nostrum infirmitatem, non quod novimus satis digne eloqui conamur, sed quæ digne credimus, ut possumus, explicamus; et vos capite ut potestis. Et si amplius forte capere aliquis vestrum potest, quam ego dicere; non attendat ad exiguum rivum, sed currat ad uberrimum fontem: quoniam apud eum est fons vitæ, in cujus lumine videbimus lumen.
Hear from me, then, brothers, the voice that is in the Psalms: devout, humble, gentle, not proud, not turbulent, not headlong, not rash. For a psalm says in a certain place: "I believed, therefore I have spoken." And the apostle inserted this testimony and added: "We too believe, and therefore we also speak." Do you want me, then, to tell you what I know? I am not deceiving you: hear what I have believed. Do not think it cheap that you are hearing what I have believed; for you are hearing a truthful confession. But if I said, "Hear what I know," you would be hearing rash presumption. If then, brothers, all of us, and, as we believe from the writings of the saints, all who lived in the flesh before us, through whom the Spirit of God, speaking, gave out to men as much as was enough to be made known to pilgrims, all of us speak what we believe, while the Lord himself spoke what he knew: what then? If only the Lord could know what he was saying about the life to come for ever, while the others followed the Lord because they believed? We find our Lord Jesus Christ himself knowing what to say and yet not saying it. For in a certain place he says to his disciples: "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now." He put off saying what he knew because of their weakness, not because of any difficulty of his own. But we, because of the weakness common to all of us, do not attempt to express worthily what we know, but explain as we can what we worthily believe; and you, take it in as you can. And if perhaps one of you can take in more than I can say, let him not attend to the little stream, but run to the richest fountain; for with him is the fountain of life, in whose light we shall see light.
Ps 116:10 (115:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 36:9 (35:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine will speak of the life to come as one who believes, not as one who knows; even Christ withheld what his disciples could not yet bear.
- The words after "the Lord himself, what he knew" appear damaged in the digital text (a verb seems lost); translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; OCR slips in the reference): vocem qnse est → vocem quæ est; temeranam → temerariam; ( Psal. ex v, 10, et II Cor. IV. i 3) → ( Psal. cxv, 10, et II Cor. IV, 13); dicercm → dicerem; tantum quautum → tantum quantum; Ad!;:;.: mulla → Adhuc multa; infirmitalem → infirmitatem; apud cum est fons → apud eum est fons.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.5 (PL 39:1582; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-5
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.6PL 39:1582
Quia ergo est resurrectio disputavimus, sic credimus, sic credere debemus, sic loquimur, quia sic credidimus, si christiani sumus, intuentes potentiam brachii Domini sternentis usquequaque superbiam gentium, et ædificantis hanc fidem tam late per orbem terrarum, quam promissum est multo antequam fieret: haec intuentes, ædificamur ad credendum ea quæ nondum videmus, ut ipsam visionem mercedem fidei recipiamus. Cum ergo manifestum sit fidei nostræ futuram resurrectionem mortuorum, et ita manifestum, ut hinc quisquis dubitaverit, impudentissime se dicat christianum; quæritur qualia corpora habebunt sancti, et quæ vita eorum futura sit. Multis enim visum est resurrectionem quidcm fieri, sed per solas animas.
Since, then, we have argued that there is a resurrection, so we believe, so we ought to believe, so we speak, because so we have believed, if we are Christians: looking at the power of the Lord's arm laying low the pride of the nations everywhere, and building up this faith as widely through the world as was promised long before it happened. Looking at these things, we are built up to believe what we do not yet see, so that we may receive sight itself as the reward of faith. Since, then, the future resurrection of the dead is plain to our faith, and so plain that whoever doubts it calls himself a Christian most shamelessly, the question is what kind of bodies the saints will have, and what their life will be. For many have thought that there would indeed be a resurrection, but of souls only.
Notes and citation
Summary: No Christian may doubt the resurrection; the question now is what bodies and what life the saints will have, since some think only souls will rise.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): haec intuenles, acdilicamur ad credendum ca quoe → haec intuentes, ædificamur ad credendum ea quæ; fidel nostræ → fidei nostræ; impudenlissime → impudentissime; corum futura → eorum futura.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.6 (PL 39:1582; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-6
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.7PL 39:1582–1583
Quia vero resurgunt et corpora, non opus est diu disserere post sermonem præteritum. Sed objicitur hujusmodi quæstio: Si corpora futura sunt, qualia futura sunt? Talia qualia nunc sunt, an alterius modi? Si alterius modi, quis ille modus? Si talia, ergo ad eadem. opera? Quia ergo non ad eadem præscribit Dominus, quia non ad talia docet Apostolus. Nam non ad eamdem vitam, non ad eadem facta mortalia et corruptibilia et peritura atque transeuntia, non ad carnalia gaudia, non ad carnales consolationes. Si ergo non ad eadem, nec talia. Si non talia, quomodo ergo caro resurget? Carnis autem resurrectionem habemus in regula fidei, et eam confitentes baptizamur. Et quidquid ibi confitemur, ex veritate et in veritate confitemur, in qua vivimus et movemur et sumus. Temporalibus enim gestis ct transcuntibus quibusdam ac prætereuntibus factis instruimur ad vitam æternam. Omnia quæ gesta sunt, ut salubre aliquid audiremus, ut miracula fierent, ut Dominus noster nasceretur, esuriret et sitiret, comprehenderetur, contumeliis afficerctur, vapularcl, crucifigeretur, moreretur, sepeliretur, resurgeret, in cœlum ascenderet, omnia transierunt; et cum prædicantur, fidei nostræ actiones quædam temporales et transitoriae prædicantur. Numquid quia ipsæ transeunt, quod per eas ædificatur similiter transit? Intendat enim Sanctitas vestra, ut videatis hoc per similitudinem. Architectus ædificat per machinas transituras domum mansuram. Nam in islo tam magno et amplo, quod videmus, adificio, cum instrueretur, machinæ fuerunt, quæ hic modo non sunt; quia quod per eas ædificabantur, jam perfectum stat. Sic ergo, fratres, ædificabatur aliquid in fide christiana, et perfecta sunt quædam machinamenta temporalia. Dominus enim noster Jesus Christus quod resurrexit, transactum est; neque enim adhuc resurgit: et quod ascendit in caelum, transactum est; nequc enim adhuc ascendit. Quod autem in illa vita est, ubi jam non moritur, et mors ei ultra non dominabitur; quod vivit in æternum etiam ipsa in illo natura humana, quam suscipere, et in qua nasci, et in qua mori et sepeliri dignatus est, hoc ædificatum est, hoc semper manet. Machinae autem per quas ædificatum est. transierunt. Non enim semper in utcro virginali concipitur, aut semper de Maria virgine nascitur Christus, aut semper comprehenditur, aut semper judicatur, flagellatur, crucifigitur, sepelitur. Omnia hæc machinæ deputantur, ut ædificaretur per has machinas illud quod manet in aeternum. Hæc autem resurrectio Domini nostri Jesu Christi in coelo posita est.
That bodies too rise again there is no need to discuss at length after the previous sermon. But a question of this sort is raised: if there are to be bodies, what will they be like? Such as they are now, or of another kind? If of another kind, what is that kind? If such as now, then for the same works? But the Lord does not prescribe the same, the apostle does not teach such. For it is not for the same life, not for the same deeds, mortal and corruptible and perishing and passing, not for carnal joys, not for carnal consolations. If, then, not for the same things, then not such bodies either. If not such, how then will the flesh rise? Yet we have the resurrection of the flesh in the rule of faith, and we are baptized confessing it. And whatever we confess there, we confess from the truth and in the truth, in which we live and move and are. For we are instructed for eternal life by temporal events and by certain transient and passing deeds. All the things that were done so that we might hear something saving, that miracles might happen, that our Lord might be born, hunger and thirst, be arrested, be insulted, be scourged, be crucified, die, be buried, rise again, ascend into heaven: all have passed; and when they are preached, certain temporal and transitory actions are preached to our faith. Because they pass, does what is built by them likewise pass? Let your Holiness attend, so that you may see this through a likeness. An architect builds a lasting house by means of passing machines. For in this great and spacious building that we see, while it was being built there were machines which are not here now, because what was being built by them now stands complete. So then, brothers, something was being built in the Christian faith, and certain temporal machines have done their work. For that our Lord Jesus Christ rose is finished; he is not still rising; and that he ascended into heaven is finished; he is not still ascending. But that he is in that life where he no longer dies, and death will no longer have dominion over him; that in him human nature itself, which he deigned to take, and in which he deigned to be born, to die, and to be buried, lives for ever: this has been built, this abides always. But the machines by which it was built have passed. For Christ is not always being conceived in the virgin's womb, or always being born of the virgin Mary, or always being arrested, or always being judged, scourged, crucified, buried. All these are reckoned as machines, so that by these machines what abides for ever might be built. And this resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ has been placed in heaven.
Acts 17:28 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 6:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The flesh will rise, though not for the same mortal life; the passing events of Christ's life were like builders' machines that raised the lasting building of his risen humanity.
- The opening words "Regula fidei, symbolum. Apta similitudo" ("The rule of faith, the creed. A fitting likeness") are Migne's marginal headings and have been removed.
- "This great and spacious building that we see" is presumably the church in which the sermon was preached.
- The garbled "intORtum ascenderet" is read as "in cœlum ascenderet" ("ascend into heaven"), which the sense requires.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings; OCR slip; OCR garble (reading required by the sense); OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break split; stray mark): Regula fidei, symbolum. Apta similitudo. Quia vero rcsurgunt → Quia vero resurgunt; Dee talia → nec talia; babemus → habemus; conOtemur → confitemur; confiternur → confitemur; lactis instruimur → factis instruimur; saJubrc → salubre; ntiracula → miracula; si. tiret → sitiret; intORtum ascenderet → in cœlum ascenderet; Inleudat → Intendat; pcr cas ædificabantur → per eas ædificabantur; fraircs → fratres; nun dominabitur → non dominabitur; sepelilur → sepelitur; posita est. * → posita est..
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.7 (PL 39:1582–1583; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-7
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.8PL 39:1583
Attendat Charitas vestra ædificium mirabile. Ædificia quippe ista terrena pondere suo terram premunt, totusque nutus ponderum in ista structura magnitudine ad terram nititur, et nisi contineatur, ad inferiora contendit, quo pondus adducit. Quia ergo in terra ædificatur, in terra fundamentum præmittitur; at supra fundamentum securus instruat qui ædificat. Ergo ponit in imo firmissimas moles, ut idonee possint portare desuper quod imponitur, et pro magnitudine ædificii magnitudo fundamenti praeparatur: in terra tamen, ut dixi, quia et illud quod ædificatur supra, utique in terra collocatur. Jerusalem illa nostra peregrina in coelo ædificatur. Ideo præcessit fundamentum Christus in coelum. Ibi enim fundamentum nostrum est et caput Ecclesiæ: nam et fundamentum dicitur et caput, et revera ita est. Quia et caput ædificii fundamentum est: non enim caput est quod finitur, sed unde incipit sursum versus. Terrenorum ædificiorum culmina subriguntur, caput tamen in terræ soliditate constituunt. Sic et caput Ecclesiæ præcessit in caelum, et sedet ad dexteram Patris. Quomodo operantur homines, ut ad constituendum fundamentum aliquid trahant quod in imo stabiliant, propter securitatem superventuræ molis in constructionibus fabricæ futuræ: sic per omnia illa quae contigerunt in Christo, nasci, crescere, comprehendi, contumeliam pati, flagellari, crucifigi, occidi, mori, sepeliri, velut attracta est moles ad fundamentum coeleste.
Let your Love attend to a marvelous building. These earthly buildings press on the earth by their weight, and the whole downward thrust of the weights in such a large structure strains toward the earth, and unless it is held in check it tends toward lower places, where the weight draws it. Because it is built on earth, then, the foundation is laid first in the earth, and on the foundation the builder may build securely. So he places very firm masses at the bottom, so that they can adequately carry what is put on top, and the size of the foundation is prepared in proportion to the size of the building; in the earth, however, as I said, because what is built on top is also placed on the earth. That Jerusalem of ours, now a pilgrim, is being built in heaven. That is why Christ, the foundation, went ahead into heaven. For there is our foundation and the head of the Church; for he is called both foundation and head, and so indeed he is. For the head of a building too is its foundation: the head is not where it ends but where it begins to rise upward. The tops of earthly buildings are raised high, yet they set their head in the solidity of the earth. So too the head of the Church went ahead into heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father. As men work to haul something to set firm at the bottom to make a foundation, for the security of the mass that is to come on top in building the future structure, so through all the things that happened in Christ, being born, growing, being arrested, suffering insult, being scourged, crucified, slain, dying, being buried, a mass, as it were, was hauled up to the heavenly foundation.
Col 1:18 (echo, medium confidence) · Mark 16:19 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Unlike earthly buildings, the heavenly Jerusalem has its foundation above: Christ, its head and foundation, has gone ahead into heaven.
- The opening words "Christus et fundamentum nostrum, et caput" ("Christ is both our foundation and head") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break split): Christus et fundamentum nostrum, et caput. Attendat → Attendat; contincatur, ad iuferiora → contineatur, ad inferiora; Jcrusalem illa nostra peregrina in coelo xdificatur → Jerusalem illa nostra peregrina in coelo ædificatur; fundameutum est → fundamentum est; sed uude incipit → sed unde incipit; in terne soliditate → in terræ soliditate; fabricae fulurap → fabricæ futuræ; contigcrunt In Christo → contigerunt in Christo; cresce. re → crescere.
Topics: Christology, Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.8 (PL 39:1583; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-8
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.9PL 39:1583
Posito ergo in summis fundamento nostro, ædificemur in eo. Audi Apostolum: Fundamentum, inquit, aliud nemo potest ponere, præter id quod positum est, quod est Christus Jesus. Sed quid sequitur? Unusquisque autem videat quid supercedificet super fundamentum, aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos, ligna, fenum, stipulam. In cœlo quidem Christus est, sed etiam in corde credentium. Si primum locum habet Christus, recto positum est fundamentum. Ergo qui ædificat, securus ædificet, si pro dignitate fundamenti ædificat aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos. Si autem non pro dignitate fundamenti aedificat, lignum. fenum; stipulam; saltem teneat fundamentum, et propter illa quæ exstruxit arida et fragilia, ad ignem se preparet. Sed si fundamentum est, id est, si primum locum in corde Christus obtinuit, sæcularia vero sic amantur, ut non Christo praeponantur, sed eis Dominus Christus, ut sit in aedificio cordis tenens fundamentum, id est, primum locum: detrimentum, inquit, patietur; ipse autem salvus erit, sic tamen quasi per ignem ( I Cor, III, 10-15). Non est nunc tempus hortari vos, ut potius aurum, argentum, lapides pretiosos ædificetis, quam lignum, fenum, stipulam, super tam magnum et validum fundamentum: sed tamen breviter dictum sic accipite, quasi diu et multis verbis dictum. Novimus enim, fratres, quia quisquis vestrum propter illa quae modo diligit, per comminationes alicujus judicis in carcerem mitteretur, ut solum fumum pateretur, illa omnia mallet amittere, quam lacum illum pati. Nescio quo autem modo cum ignis nominatur in die judicii futurus, omnes contemnunt, et flammas foci timentes, flammam gehennae pro nihilo ducunt. Quæ est ista duritia? quæ tanta perversitas cordis? Si vel sic timerent homines quod ait Apostolus, per ignem, quomodo timet quisque ne vivus ardeat, quod illi uno momento contingit, donec sensus membra deserens omnes illas flammas superfluas facit; timeret tamen, et non faceret aliquid quod jure prohibetur, ne ad illum cruciatum momenti unius perveniret.
Since our foundation, then, has been laid on high, let us be built upon it. Hear the apostle: "No one can lay another foundation," he says, "than the one that has been laid, which is Christ Jesus." But what follows? "But let each one see what he builds upon the foundation: gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw." Christ is indeed in heaven, but he is also in the heart of believers. If Christ has the first place, the foundation has been rightly laid. So let the builder build securely, if he builds gold, silver, precious stones, in keeping with the dignity of the foundation. But if he does not build in keeping with the dignity of the foundation, but builds wood, hay, straw, let him at least hold to the foundation, and because of the dry and fragile things he has built up, let him prepare himself for fire. But if it is the foundation, that is, if Christ has won the first place in the heart, and worldly things are loved in such a way that they are not put before Christ, but the Lord Christ is put before them, so that in the building of the heart he holds the foundation, that is, the first place: "he will suffer loss," he says, "but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire." This is not the time now to urge you to build gold, silver, and precious stones rather than wood, hay, and straw upon so great and strong a foundation; but take what has been said briefly as though it had been said at length and in many words. For we know, brothers, that if any of you were sent to prison by the threats of some judge because of the things he now loves, to suffer nothing but smoke, he would rather lose all those things than suffer that dungeon. Yet somehow, when fire is named as coming on the day of judgment, all despise it, and while they fear the flames of the hearth, they count the flame of Gehenna as nothing. What hardness is this? What great perversity of heart? If men feared what the apostle says, "through fire," even as each one fears being burned alive, which happens to him in a single moment, until sensation leaves the limbs and makes all those flames superfluous, he would still fear it, and would not do anything that is rightly forbidden, so as not to come to that torment, though it were of a single moment.
1 Cor 3:10–15 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: With Christ as foundation in the heart, Christians must build gold rather than straw; Augustine wonders that people fear earthly fire yet despise the fire of judgment.
- The opening sentences "Christus fundamentum est, si primum in corde locum obtineat. Ignis gehennæ quam timendus" ("Christ is the foundation if he holds the first place in the heart. How the fire of Gehenna is to be feared") are Migne's marginal headings and have been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings; OCR slip; OCR slips): Christus fundamentum eat, si primum in corde locum obtineat. Ignis gehennæ quam timendus. Posito → Posito; prælier id quod positum eat, quod eat Christus → præter id quod positum est, quod est Christus; sarcularia → sæcularia; super lam magnum → super tam magnum; in dic judicii → in die judicii; Aposiolus → Apostolus; descrens omnes illas flammas superfluas facil; limeret tamen, ct non faceret aliquid quod jure probibctur → deserens omnes illas flammas superfluas facit; timeret tamen, et non faceret aliquid quod jure prohibetur.
Topics: Eschatology, Ethics
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.9 (PL 39:1583; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-9
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.10PL 39:1583–1584
Sed, ut dixi, fratres, nunc de hac re spatium non est disserendi: iliud dico, boc nos sperare debere in resurrectione mortuorum, quod expressum est in capite nostro, quod expressum est in corpore Domini nostri Jesu Christi. Quisquis aliud sperat, jam non ædificat super fundamentum, non solum aurum, argentum et lapides pretiosos, sed nec ipsam stipulam. Extra enim ponit totum, quia non in Christo ponit. Resurrexit ergo Dominus noster in eo corpore, in quo sepultus est. Resurrectio promittitur Chrislianis. Talem resurrectionem speremus, qualis in Domino nostro præcessit omnium nostrum fidem. Ad hoc enim prævenit, ut fides nostra superædificetur. Quid igitur? Quomodo non tales, quales nunc sumus? Caro enim Domini nostri Jesu Christi resurrexit, sed ascendit in coelum. In terra officia humana servavit, ut persuaderet hoc resurrexisse quod sepultum erat. Numquid autem et in cœlo talis cibus est? Nam et Angelos officia humana in terra legimus exsecutos. Venerunt ad Abraham, et manducaverunt; et cum Tobia angelus fuit, et manducavit. Quid dicimus, quia phantasma erat illa manducatio, et non erat vera? Nonne manifestum est, quod vitulum occidit Abraham, panes fecit, et ad mensam posuit; ministravit angelis, et manducaverunt? Omnia ista manifestissime facta et manifestissime expressa sunt.
But, as I said, brothers, there is no room now to discuss this matter. This I say: in the resurrection of the dead we ought to hope for what has been shown in our head, what has been shown in the body of our Lord Jesus Christ. Whoever hopes for something else no longer builds upon the foundation, not only not gold, silver, and precious stones, but not even straw. For he puts the whole outside, because he does not put it in Christ. Our Lord, then, rose in the body in which he was buried. Resurrection is promised to Christians. Let us hope for such a resurrection as went before the faith of all of us in our Lord. For he went before for this reason, that our faith might be built upon it. What then? In what way shall we not be such as we are now? For the flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ rose, but it ascended into heaven. On earth he kept to human functions, to convince people that what had been buried had risen. But is there such food in heaven too? For we read that angels too performed human functions on earth. They came to Abraham and ate; and an angel was with Tobias, and ate. What do we say: that that eating was an illusion and not real? Is it not plain that Abraham killed a calf, made loaves, and set them on the table; he served the angels, and they ate? All these things were done most plainly and recorded most plainly.
Gen 18:2–8 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 24:42–43 (echo, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christians should hope for a resurrection like Christ's, who rose in the body that was buried and ate on earth, as angels also truly ate with Abraham and Tobias.
- The opening words "Angeli apud Abraham vere manducarunt" ("The angels truly ate at Abraham's house") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed.
- The angel with Tobias: Tob 5–12 (compare Tob 12:19, where Raphael says he only seemed to eat).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slips; OCR slip; OCR slips): Angeli apud Abraham vere manducarunt Scd, ut dixi, fraLres → Sed, ut dixi, fratres; corporo Domim → corpore Domini; argenium et lapides pretiosos, sed ncc ipsam slipulam → argentum et lapides pretiosos, sed nec ipsam stipulam; Resurrexit crgo → Resurrexit ergo; in qno sepultus → in quo sepultus; Caro tnim → Caro enim; antem et in → autem et in; lcgimus → legimus; phantasma crat illa manducatio, et non crat vera → phantasma erat illa manducatio, et non erat vera; qnod vitulum → quod vitulum; ct manducaverunt → et manducaverunt.
Extrabiblical texts: Tob 5:4 (Tobit [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.10 (PL 39:1583–1584; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-10
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.11PL 39:1584
Quid ergo dicit in libro Tubiæ angelus? Vidistis me manducare, sed visu vestro videbatis. Numquid quia non manducabat, sed manducare videbatur? Imo vero manducabat. Quid est ergo, visu vestro videbatis? Intendat Sanctitas vestra quod dico: intendat in orationem plus quam in me; ut intelligatis quod dicimus, ut ei nos ita dicamus quemadmodum vos oportet audire et intelligere quod auditis. Corpus nostrum quamdiu corruptibile est et moriturum, indigentiam patitur refectionis, inde et fames existit: propterea esurimus et sitimus; et si esuriem sitimque nostram distulerimus diutius quam potest corpus sustinere, perducitur ad tabificam maciem, et ad quamdam morbidam exilitatem, discedentibus viribus et non succedentibus: et si amplius fiat, mors etiam consequetur. Nam semper de corpore nostro discedit aliquid quasi quodam fluvio discessionis, sed inde non sentimus vires discedentes, quia per refectionem assumimus succedentes. Quod enim copiose accedit, paulatim discedit: propterea parvo tempore reficimus, productiore autem tempore deserunt nos vires, quæ acceptae sunt cum reficeremus. Sicut oleum in lucerna, quod parvo tempore mittitur, diutius paulatimque consumitur. Cum autem prope consumptum fuerit, jam languor flammulæ illius quasi fames lucernae, admonet nos, et continuo subvenimus, ut instauretur illa species, et maneat lux in lucerna, cibo suo refecta cum adjicimus oleum. Sic vires nostræ, quas accipimus manducando, eunt et deserunt nos perpetua discessione, sed paulatim. Nam ct idipsum nunc agitur in nobis, et in omnibus actionibus nostris, in omni etiam quiete nostra non cessat ire quod acceptum est: et si fuerit omnino consumptum, ita homo et moritur quomodo lucerna exstinguitur. Ut autem non moriatur, id est, ut non exstinguatur, non quia morimur animo, sed ut corporalis hæc vita nostra non exstinguatur, et quædam quasi vigilatio in isto corpore succedat, currimus et subjicimus quod recessit, et reficere dicimur. Qui dicit refici, quid reficit, si nihil deficit? Per indigentiam ergo hanc et corruptionem etiam morituri sumus omnes, quia tale est hoc corpus, ut ei mors debita reservetur. Hanc enim mortalitatem significant pelles, quibus induti sunt Adam et Eva, et dimissi de paradiso. Pelles enim mortem indicant, quæ a mortuis pecudibus detrahi solent. Cum ergo portamus istam defectibilem infirmitatem, cui etsi cibus nunquam desit, sed subinde reparet vires, non tamen efficit ut mors non sit futura (totus enim ille status corporis per succedentes ætates, etiamsi diutius hic vivatur, veniet aliquando ad terminum senectutis, et ultra quo porrigatur non inveniet nisi mortem. Nam et lucerna ipsa, etiamsi subinde semper mittas oleum, non valet semper ardere; quia, ut aliis casibus non exstinguatur, ipsa stupa deficit, et quadam quasi senectute consumitur): quamdiu ergo talia corpora gerimus, ex defectu indigemus, ex indigentia esurimus, ex esurie manducamus. Angelus vero non ex indigentia manducat. Aliud est enim ex potestate aliquid facere, aliud ex necessitate. Manducat homo, ne moriatur: manducat angelus, ut mortalibus congruat. Si enim mortem non timet angelus, non ex defectu reficitur: si non ex defectu reficitur, non ex indigentia manducat. Qui autem videbant angelum manducare, tanquam esurientem putabant. Hoc est quod ait, Visu vestro videbatis. Non enim dixit, Videbatis me manducare, sed non manducavi: Videbatis, inquit, me manducare, sed visu vestro videbatis; id est, ego manducabam ut vobis congruerem, non quia famem ullam aut indigentiam patiebar, qua cogente vos manducare consuevistis, et ideo quos manducare videritis, ex indigentia id fieri suspicamini, qui ex vestra consuetudine metimini quod videtis: hoc est, visu vestro videbatis.
What then does the angel say in the book of Tobias? "You saw me eat, but you saw with your own sight." Was it that he did not eat but only seemed to eat? No, he truly ate. What then does "you saw with your own sight" mean? Let your Holiness attend to what I say; attend in prayer more than to me, so that you may understand what we say, and that we may say it to you in the way you ought to hear and understand what you hear. As long as our body is corruptible and going to die, it suffers the need of refreshment; and from this hunger arises. That is why we hunger and thirst; and if we put off our hunger and thirst longer than the body can bear, it is brought to a wasting leanness and a kind of sickly thinness, as strength departs and is not replaced; and if this goes further, death too will follow. For something is always departing from our body in a kind of stream of departure, but we do not feel our strength departing, because through refreshment we take in strength to replace it. For what comes in abundantly departs little by little: that is why we take refreshment in a short time, while over a longer time the strength we received when we took refreshment leaves us. It is like oil in a lamp, which is poured in in a short time and is used up slowly, little by little. But when it is nearly used up, the feebleness of that little flame, the lamp's hunger as it were, warns us, and at once we come to its help, so that its brightness may be restored and the light may stay in the lamp, refreshed by its food when we add oil. So our strength, which we receive by eating, goes and leaves us in continual departure, but little by little. For this very thing is happening in us now, and in all our actions; even in all our rest what was received does not stop going; and if it is entirely used up, a man dies just as a lamp goes out. But so that he may not die, that is, not go out (not because we die in the soul, but so that this bodily life of ours may not go out and a kind of wakefulness may continue in this body), we hurry to supply what has gone, and we are said to "refresh" ourselves. Whoever speaks of refreshing, what does he refresh if nothing is failing? Through this need and corruption, then, we are all going to die as well, because this body is such that death is kept in store for it as its due. For this mortality is signified by the skins with which Adam and Eve were clothed when they were sent out of paradise. For skins point to death, since they are usually stripped from dead animals. As long, then, as we carry this failing weakness, which, even if food never fails it but keeps restoring its strength, still is not kept from coming to death (for that whole condition of the body, through the succeeding ages of life, even if one lives here a long time, will come at some point to the limit of old age, and beyond it will find nothing to reach to but death; for the lamp too, even if you keep adding oil, cannot burn for ever, because, even if it is not put out by some other mishap, the wick itself fails and is consumed by a kind of old age): as long, then, as we bear such bodies, from failing we are in need, from need we hunger, from hunger we eat. But the angel does not eat from need. For it is one thing to do something from power, another from necessity. Man eats so as not to die; the angel eats so as to suit himself to mortals. For if the angel does not fear death, he is not refreshed because of failing; if he is not refreshed because of failing, he does not eat from need. But those who saw the angel eating thought he was hungry. This is what he means by "you saw with your own sight." For he did not say, "You saw me eat, but I did not eat"; "You saw me eat," he says, "but you saw with your own sight"; that is: I ate to suit myself to you, not because I suffered any hunger or need, which compels you to eat as you are accustomed to do; and so, when you see someone eating, you suppose that it is done from need, measuring what you see by your own habit. This is "you saw with your own sight."
Gen 3:21 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Humans eat from the need of a failing, mortal body, as a lamp needs oil; the angel with Tobias truly ate, but from power, to suit himself to mortals, not from need.
- Augustine's Latin of Tob 12:19 differs from the Vulgate wording.
- The skins of Adam and Eve: Gen 3:21.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; joined words): sed visu vestro videbutis → sed visu vestro videbatis; mauducabat → manducabat; Quid cst ergo → Quid est ergo; plus qnam in me → plus quam in me; intelligcre → intelligere; est el moriturum → est et moriturum; iude et fames → inde et fames; propterca esurimus et silimus; ct si → propterea esurimus et sitimus; et si; si amplius liat → si amplius fiat; discedenles → discedentes; propterca parvo → propterea parvo; dintius → diutius; ilia species, et mallent lux in lucerna, cibo suo refecta cum artjicirnus oleum → illa species, et maneat lux in lucerna, cibo suo refecta cum adjicimus oleum; eunt ei deserunt → eunt et deserunt; non cessai ire → non cessat ire; ei si fuerit omnino → et si fuerit omnino; Ut auicm non moriatur, id cst → Ut autem non moriatur, id est; exslinguatur → exstinguatur; Qui dicit reiici → Qui dicit refici; Pelles cnim mortem iudicant → Pelles enim mortem indicant; defectibilern → defectibilem; non sil futura → non sit futura; ulLra → ultra; nonexstinguatur → non exstinguatur; deficit, ct quadam → deficit, et quadam; Qni autem videbant → Qui autem videbant; esurienlem → esurientem; Non euim dixit → Non enim dixit; manducaret ted visu → manducare, sed visu; id ea, ego → id est, ego; voLis congrucrem → vobis congruerem; indigentium patiebar → indigentiam patiebar; et idco quos → et ideo quos; vidcritis → videritis.
Extrabiblical texts: Tob 12:19 (Tobit [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.11 (PL 39:1584; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-11
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.12PL 39:1584–1585
Quid ergo, fratres mei? Scimus, sicut dicit Apostolus, quia Christus resurgens ex mortuis jam non moritur, et mors ei ultra non dominabitur. Quod enim mortuus est peccato, mortuus est semel: quod autem vivit, vivit Deo. Si ergo ille jam non moritur, et mors ei ultra non dominabitur; sic nos resurrecturos speremus, ut in eo statu semper simus, in quem resurgendo mutabimur. Manducandi autem et bibendi etiamsi potestas erit, necessitas non erit. Erat autem tunc cur hoc faceret Dominus, quia erant adhuc in carne quibus vellet congruere, quibus etiam cicatrices ostendere voluit. Non enim qui fecit oculos cæci, quos in matris utero non acceperat, sine cicatricibus resurgere non valebat. Qui si vellet ipsius carnis suæ mortalem indigentiam ante mortem ita commutare, ut non haberet aliquam necessitatis inopiam, posset utique: in manu enim habebat, quia Deus erat in carne, et omnipotens Filius, sicut omnipotens Pater. Nam et ipsam carnem suam ante mortem mutavit in quod voluit. In monte quippe cum discipulis cum esset, sicut sol splenduit vultus ejus (Matth. XVII, i). Hoc autem potestate fecit, ostendere volens quia et ipsam carnem suam posset ab omni indigentia commutare, ut non moreretur si nollet. Potestatem, inquit, habeo ponendi animam meam, et potestatem habeo iterum sumendi eam. Nemo eam tollit a me. Potestas haec magna, qua posset et non mori: sed major misericordia, qua voluit mori. Ad hoc enim fecit per misericordiam, quod posset et non facere per potestatem, ut nobis constitueret fundamentum resurrectionis: ut illud quod propter nos mortale portabat, et moreretur, quia morituri sumus; et ad immortalitatem resurgeret, ut immortalitatem speremus. Ideoque ante mortem non solum scriptum est quia manducavit et bibit, sed etiam quia esurivit et sitivit: post resurrectionem tantum quia et manducavit et bibit, non autem quia esurivit et sitivit; quia in corpore non amplius morituro non erat illa indigentia corruptionis, ut esset necessitas refectionis. sed erat potestas edendi. Factum est causa congruendi, non ut subveniretur inopiae carnis, sed ut suaderetur veritas corporis.
What then, my brothers? We know, as the apostle says, that Christ, rising from the dead, no longer dies, and death will no longer have dominion over him. For in that he died to sin, he died once; but in that he lives, he lives to God. If, then, he no longer dies, and death will no longer have dominion over him, let us hope that we shall rise in such a way that we shall always be in the state into which we shall be changed by rising. And even if there will be the power to eat and drink, there will be no necessity. But at that time there was a reason why the Lord did this: there were still people in the flesh with whom he wished to fit in, to whom he also wished to show his scars. For he who made eyes for the blind man, which he had not received in his mother's womb, was not unable to rise without scars. And if he had wished to change the mortal need of his own flesh before death so that it would have no want of necessity, he certainly could have; for it was in his hand, because he was God in the flesh, and the almighty Son, as the Father is almighty. For even before death he changed his very flesh into what he wished: when he was on the mountain with his disciples, his face shone like the sun. And this he did by power, wishing to show that he could also change his very flesh from all need, so that he would not die if he did not wish to. "I have power," he says, "to lay down my life, and I have power to take it up again. No one takes it from me." Great is this power, by which he could also not die; but greater the mercy by which he willed to die. For he did through mercy what by power he could also have left undone, in order to lay for us the foundation of the resurrection: so that what he bore as mortal for our sake should both die, because we are going to die, and rise to immortality, so that we may hope for immortality. Therefore before his death it is written not only that he ate and drank, but also that he hungered and thirsted; after the resurrection only that he ate and drank, not that he hungered and thirsted; because in a body that would no longer die there was not that need belonging to corruption, which would make refreshment a necessity, but there was the power to eat. It was done for the sake of fitting in with them, not to relieve a want of the flesh, but to convince them of the reality of the body.
Rom 6:9–10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence) · John 9:1–7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 17:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 4:2 (echo, medium confidence) · Luke 24:42–43 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: In the resurrection there will be the power to eat but not the need; the risen Christ ate and showed his scars to convince his disciples, not from hunger.
- The opening words "Manducandi potestas post resurrectionem erit, sicut in Christo, non necessitas" ("After the resurrection there will be the power of eating, as in Christ, not the necessity") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slips): Manducandi potestas postresurrectionem erit, sicut in Christo, not necessitas. Quid ergo → Quid ergo; nou moritur → non moritur; cliamsi potestas erit, nccessitas → etiamsi potestas erit, necessitas; tune cur → tunc cur; quia crant adhuc → quia erant adhuc; ipsiuscarnis sua: morlalcm → ipsius carnis suæ mortalem; in manu euim habebat, quia Deus crat → in manu enim habebat, quia Deus erat; sient omnipotens → sicut omnipotens; aute mortem mutavit → ante mortem mutavit; Huc autem potestate fecit I ostendere → Hoc autem potestate fecit, ostendere; misericordiain → misericordiam; qnia manducavit → quia manducavit; ct sitivit: post rcsurrectionem → et sitivit: post resurrectionem; non crat illa → non erat illa; ut csset nccessitas → ut esset necessitas.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.12 (PL 39:1584–1585; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).
362.13PL 39:1585
Adversus hanc tantam evidentiam, nonnulli nobis ex Apostolo faciunt quæstionem: contra istam quippe disputationem, vide quid objiciunt. Non, inquiunt, resurget caro: si enim resurget, possidebit regnum Dei; aperte autem dicit Apostolus, Caro et sanguis regnum Dei non possidebit. Audistis, cum Apostolus legeretur. Dicimus carnem resurgere, et clamat Apostolus, Caro et sanguis regnum Dei non possidebit. Ergo contra Apostolum prædicamus, aut ipse contra Evangelium praedicavit? Evangelium divina voce testatur, Verbum caro factum est, et habitavit in nobis. Si caro factum est, vera caro factum est. Nam si non vera caro, nec caro. Sicut vera caro Mariæ, vera caro Christi, quæ inde suscepta est. Hæc vera caro comprehensa, flagellata, colaphizata, suspensa; hæc vera caro mortua, hæc vera caro sepulta est; hæc vera caro a morte etiam resurrexit. Reddunt testimonia cicatrices: vident oculi discipulorum. et adhuc fluctuat admiratio; compalpat manus, ne dubitet animus. Contra tantam evidentiam, fratres, quam hoc modo voluit Dominus noster Jesus Christus persuadere discipulis eam per orbem terrarum prædicaturis; contra hanc evidentiam pugnare videtur Apostolus, dicens: Caro et sanguis regnum Dei non possidebit?
Against such great evidence some raise a question for us from the apostle: see what they object to this argument. "The flesh," they say, "will not rise; for if it rises, it will possess the kingdom of God; but the apostle says openly, Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God." You heard it when the apostle was being read. We say that the flesh rises, and the apostle cries out, "Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God." Are we then preaching against the apostle, or did he preach against the gospel? The gospel testifies with a divine voice, "The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us." If he became flesh, he became true flesh. For if not true flesh, then not flesh. As Mary's flesh is true, so the flesh of Christ, which was taken from her, is true. This true flesh was arrested, scourged, struck with fists, hung on the cross; this true flesh died, this true flesh was buried; this true flesh also rose from death. The scars bear witness; the disciples' eyes see, and still their wonder wavers; the hand handles, so that the mind may not doubt. Against such great evidence, brothers, by which our Lord Jesus Christ wished in this way to convince the disciples who were to preach it throughout the world, against this evidence does the apostle seem to fight when he says, "Flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God"?
1 Cor 15:50 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 24:39 (allusion, high confidence) · John 20:27 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Some object from 1 Cor 15:50 that the flesh will not rise; but the gospel shows that Christ's true flesh, taken from Mary, died, was buried, and rose.
- The opening words "Quæstio, quomodo caro et sanguis non possidebit regnum Dei" ("The question how flesh and blood will not possess the kingdom of God") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break split and OCR slip): Quæstio, quomodo caro et sanguis non possidebit regnum Dei. Adversus → Adversus; si..nim resurget → si enim resurget; Apostolns logeretur → Apostolus legeretur; Dicimus rarnem rcsurgerc → Dicimus carnem resurgere; Erpo contra → Ergo contra; vera caro factum cst → vera caro factum est; qua; inde → quæ inde; H:rc vera caro cnmprehensa → Hæc vera caro comprehensa; vera earo mortua → vera caro mortua; con- Ira hanc → contra hanc; Garo et sanguis → Caro et sanguis.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 362.13 (PL 39:1585; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/362-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).