Apology against Jerome 1.27–1.38

Latin text: Migne, PL 21 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, vol. 21, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 3 (1892).

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Chapter 1

1.27PL 21:565b–566b

Haec sunt quae in illis, quos solos ex omnibus opusculis luis eligis, et ad condemnandos caeteros relegi jubes, Commentariis scribis. Mundum, ais, fuisse invisibilem antequam hic visibilis fieret: in quo mundo cum reliquis habitatoribus, Angelis scilicet, et animae erat. Istas animas, ais, ob quasdam caussas soli Deo cognitas, in hoc visibili mundo nasci in corporibus, et quae ante ha bitaverant caelum apud prius saec lum, nunc hic habitant, terram scilicet non extra caussas aliquas, quas ipsae inibi vivendo commiserint. Et ais, quod Sancti quique, ut est Paulus et caeteri similes ei per generationes singulas ad eruditionem earum a Deo destinati sunt, ut eas praedicatione sua ad illam habitationem suam, unde collapsa fuerant, revocarent, et hoc copiosissimis Scripturarum testimoniis firmas. Et quae sunt alia quaeso dicta pro quibus Origenem in jus vocas? quae alia sunt in quibus eum damnari jubes? Ahumne damnasn tuis? Et si, ut tu suades, hujusmodi dicta damnanda sunt, feres tu prius sententiam, et pro dictis talibus prior te ipse condemnabis. Neque enim jam tibi ullum remansit effugium. Nullae hic strophae, pro quibus caeteros arguis, habebunt locum. In ipsa etenim poenitentia tua post conversionem jam emendatus et correptus, istis libris auctoritatem dedisti: videlicet, ut ei his tua sententia de his quae damnanda dicis, dogmatibus probaretur. Et ideo qua hic scripta sunt, tanquam si modo hac pronunties et definias, audienda sunt. Et hic talia definis qualia dicis esse damnanda. Sed non sum, inquit, ego qui definio, alium dico esse qui hac ita dicat: id est, ipsum istum quem modo dico debere damnari. Repetamus ergo si placet illum ipsum versiculum, ubi immutas exponentis personam, ut videamur, quis est Ille, quem talia dicis astruere. Ais ergo, Alius vero qui Deum justum conatur ostendere dicit hac quae jam supra diximus. Si iste quem dici- Alium, Deum justum assertione hac sua, ut ais, ostendit, et a te alius et diversus est, de te ipso quid sentis? Tu negas justum esse Deum? Magister, dum tu multum vides, et satis arguis captos oculis talpas: puto te incurrisse et ex utraque parte concludi. Aut enim justum Deum negabis ut alius sis et contrarius illi qui haec dicit: aut si, ut omnis confitetur Ecclesta, etiam tu Deum justum esse confitearis, lu es qui haec dicis, et tu es qui primus excipis sententiam, quam in alium fers, et tu qui tuometipsius mucrone confoderis. Sufficere opinor haec apud justissimos judices et futurum Dei judicium praestolantes, non quia comdemnare debeant eum, qui festucam videt in oculis fratris sui, et in suo trabem non videt; sed emendare et ad veram poenitentiam revocare.

These are the things you write in those commentaries which alone of all your works you choose, and bid men read again in order to condemn the rest. You say that there was an invisible world before this visible one was made, and in that world, with its other inhabitants, the angels namely, there were also souls. These souls, you say, for certain causes known to God alone, are born in bodies in this visible world, and those which before had dwelt in heaven in a former age now dwell here, on earth namely, not without some causes which they themselves committed while living there. And you say that each of the saints, such as Paul and others like him, in each generation were destined by God for their instruction, so that by their preaching they might call them back to that dwelling of theirs from which they had fallen; and you confirm this with very abundant testimonies of Scripture. And what other sayings, I ask, are there for which you summon Origen to court? What others are there for which you bid him be condemned? Do you condemn another for what is in your own writings? And if, as you urge, sayings of this kind are to be condemned, you will pass sentence first, and for such sayings you will condemn yourself first. For no escape is left you any longer. No tricks, for which you accuse others, will have room here. For in your very repentance, after your conversion, already amended and corrected, you gave authority to these books: namely, that your judgment on the doctrines you say are to be condemned should be proved from them. And therefore what is written here must be heard as though you were now pronouncing and defining it. And here you define such things as you say are to be condemned. "But it is not I," he says, "who define it; I say it is another who says these things": that is, this very man whom I now say ought to be condemned. Let us then take up again, if you please, that very sentence where you change the person of the expositor, to see who it is whom you say asserts such things. You say, then: "But another, who tries to show that God is just, says" the things we have already quoted above. If this man whom you call "another" shows by this assertion of his, as you say, that God is just, and is other than and different from you, what do you think about yourself? Do you deny that God is just? Master, while you see so much, and so sharply censure moles whose eyes are blind, I think you have run into a trap and are shut in on both sides. For either you will deny that God is just, so as to be other than and contrary to him who says these things; or if, as the whole church confesses, you too confess that God is just, you are the one who says these things, and you are the first to receive the sentence you pass on another, and you are the one pierced by your own sword. This, I think, should suffice before most just judges who await the coming judgment of God: not that they should condemn him who sees the speck in his brother's eye and does not see the beam in his own, but that they should correct him and call him back to true repentance.

Matt 7:3 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus argues that Jerome's own commentary teaches the pre-existence of souls, and that Jerome's device of attributing it to "another" traps him either way.

  • "Sees the speck…": Matt 7:3.
  • "Paenitentia" is rendered "repentance."

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; OCR slips; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed): [Al. Angeli] → ; [Al. praedestinati] → ; [Al. tac. suam] → ; (??) → ; [Al. condemnanda] → ; [Al. tac. haec] → ; dum tu [Al. tac. tu] → dum tu; et tu [Al. tac. tu] → et tu; Angolis → Angelis; jum emendatus → jam emendatus; libi ulna ullum → tibi ullum.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.27 (PL 21:565b–566b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.28PL 21:566b–567a

Verum ne forte latuerit eum locus iste unut ex his libris quos ad liquidum se recensuisse putaverat, et quorum exemplum, caeteris omnibus condemnatis, ad confessionem fidei proposuerat, requiramus quomodo etiam in caeteris sentiat. Item in eodem libro, de eo capitulo ubi scriptum est: Secundum placitum voluntatis suoe in laudem glorioe suoe, post; pauca ita ait: « Invadunt itaque in hoc loco occasionem, qui ante consitutionem mundi animas putant cum Angelis et caeteris Virtutum caelestium nominibus in caelesti Jerusalem fuisse versatas, quod nec secundum beneplacitum Dei, nec in laudem gloriae ejus et gratiae possit intelligi, alios nudos, barbaros, servos, debiles; alios divites, Romanos, liberos, sanos: ignobiles, vel nobiles in diversis oris, et diversa parte generari, nisi caussae praecesserint, quibus ex meritis haec animarum unaquaeque sortita est. Et illud quod ad Romanos scriptum est, quidam putant nosse, nec norunt: An non habet potestatem figulus luti, de eadem massa facere aliud vas in honorem aliud in contumeliam. ad eundem sensum referunt, ut quomodo mala vita seu bona, laboriosa vel facilis frustra in hoc mundo agitur, nisi credamus Dei futurum esse judicium: ita et diversitas in hoc mundo nascentium justitiam Dei arguat, nisi animarum merita praecesserint. Si enim, inquiunt, haec noti ita accipimus, nec beneplacitum voluntatis Dei erit, nec in laudem gloriae et gratiae' ejus alios elegisse ante constitutionem mundi, ut essent sancti et immaculati, et haberent adoptionem peresum Christum, alios ultimae conditioni et poenis perpetuis destinasse: amare Jacob antequam oriatur ex uero, odisse Esau priusquam digna odiis perpetraret, nisi caussae praecesserint quae justitiam Dei probent. »

But lest perhaps this passage escaped him, one of those in the books which he thought he had thoroughly revised, and whose example, all the rest being condemned, he had put forward as a confession of faith, let us inquire how he thinks in the other places too. Again in the same book, on the heading where it is written, "According to the good pleasure of his will, to the praise of his glory," after a little he speaks thus: "Here, then, those seize an occasion who think that before the foundation of the world souls dwelt with the angels and the other names of the heavenly powers in the heavenly Jerusalem; because it cannot be understood to be according to God's good pleasure, nor to the praise of his glory and grace, that some are born naked, barbarians, slaves, weak, and others rich, Romans, free, healthy; base-born or noble in different regions and in different parts, unless causes preceded, by whose merits each of the souls received this lot. And that which is written to the Romans, which some think they understand and do not, 'Has the potter no power over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honour, another for dishonour?', they refer to the same meaning: that just as a bad or good life, a toilsome or easy one, is lived in this world to no purpose unless we believe that there will be a judgment of God, so also the diversity of those born in this world would accuse the justice of God, unless the merits of souls had preceded. For if, they say, we do not take it so, it will be neither the good pleasure of God's will, nor to the praise of his glory and grace, that he chose some before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless and to have adoption through Jesus Christ, and destined others to the lowest condition and to everlasting punishments; that he loved Jacob before he came out of the womb, and hated Esau before he had done things deserving of hatred, unless causes had preceded which prove the justice of God."

Eph 1:5–6 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 9:11–13 (allusion, high confidence) · Mal 1:2–3 (allusion, medium confidence) · Heb 12:22 (echo, low confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus quotes Jerome's Commentary on Ephesians on Eph 1:5–6, which sets out the view that differences at birth reflect souls' earlier merits.

  • Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians 1, on Eph 1:5.
  • "Has the potter…": Rom 9:21; Jacob and Esau: Rom 9:11–13 (Mal 1:2–3); heavenly Jerusalem: Gal 4:26, Heb 12:22.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed): [Al. in] → ; [Al. conditionem] → ; (??) → ; r ex u(??) → r ex u; libis quos → libris quos; landem gloriae → laudem gloriae; do eadem massa → de eadem massa; acimarum → animarum.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Comm. Eph. (Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.28 (PL 21:566b–567a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.29PL 21:567a–568a

Quid expressius hac assertione? quid evidentius vel ab Origene, vel a quoquam eorum quos te arguere dicis, de his dogmatibus vel cogitari, vel dici potuit, quod scilicet diversitas et inaequalitas, quae est in hoc mundo nascentium, ad Dei justitiam referatur? Caussam salutis vel damnationis dicis dedisse ipsam sibi unamquamque animam, ex his scilicet motibus animorum quos prius in caelesti Jerusalem, quae est mater omninon, vivendo gesserunt. Et hoc, inquit, non ex mea persona dictum est, sed alium dicere descripsi. Denique dixi, quia Invadunt quidum occasionem. Nec ego nego, quod de alio dicere videaris. Sed iste alius, quem haec dicere ais, utrum tibi concors et consonans, an vero contrarius sit et immicus, non denegasti. Cum enim alium istum contrarium tibi aliquem nominas, soles ponere quaedam dicti ejus, sed statim ea destruere et impugnare: ut Marcionis, et Valentini, et Arii, et caeterorum. Cum vero alium quidem nominas, et dicta ejus cum validissimis assertionibus scribis, testimoniis quoque Scripturarum copiosissimis munis, nonne etiam nos tardissimi, et quos tu talpas dicis, videmus istum, cujus dicta ponis et non destruis, non alium quam te esse, et fieri haec rhetorica figura, cum sub aliena persona suam sententiam proferunt. Fiunt ista ab Oratoribus, cum aut offendere aliquos metuunt, aut invidiam declinare cupiunt. Nam si te ex hoc defensum putas, quod in his dictis alium nomines, multo erit excusabilior ille quem insimulas. Nam ille non solum hoc in consuetudine habet, ut dicat alios ita dicere, et quibusdam ita videri; sed multo cautius dicit ille, de talibus se hoc non definire, sed opinari magis. Quod si alii melius visum fuerit, dicit, ut his omissis illa teneantur. Vide quanta ille cautione usus est: et tamen a te ad damnationem vocatur. Tu quia tantummodo alium nominas, effugisse te putas. Ex his enim eum damnas, in quibus eum sequeris et imitaris.

What could be more explicit than this assertion? What could be thought or said more plainly about these doctrines, either by Origen or by any of those whom you say you censure, namely, that the diversity and inequality among those born in this world is to be referred to the justice of God? You say that each soul has itself given the cause of its salvation or damnation, from those movements of mind which they performed while living before in the heavenly Jerusalem, which is the mother of all. "And this," he says, "was not said in my own person, but I wrote that another says it. In short, I said, 'Some seize an occasion.'" Nor do I deny that you seem to speak of another. But whether this "other," whom you say says these things, is in agreement and harmony with you, or contrary and hostile, you have not denied. For when you name some "other" contrary to you, you usually set down some of his sayings but at once destroy and attack them, as with Marcion, Valentinus, Arius and the rest. But when you name an "other," and write his sayings with very strong assertions, and fortify them with abundant testimonies of the Scriptures, do not even we, the slowest of men, whom you call moles, see that this man whose sayings you set down and do not destroy is none other than yourself, and that this is the rhetorical figure by which speakers put forward their own view under another's person? Orators do this when they fear to offend some people or wish to avoid ill-will. For if you think yourself defended by naming another in these sayings, much more excusable will be the man you accuse. For he not only is in the habit of saying that others say so, and that it seems so to some; but he says much more cautiously that on such matters he does not define but rather offers an opinion; and that if something else seems better to another, these things should be dropped and those held. See how much caution he used; and yet he is summoned by you to condemnation. You think you have escaped because you merely name "another." For you condemn him for the very things in which you follow and imitate him.

Gal 4:26 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus argues that when Jerome presents another's view at length without refuting it, the view is his own, and that Origen himself spoke more cautiously.

  • "Mother of all": Gal 4:26.
  • Origen's habit of offering opinions rather than definitions is described as Rufinus saw it (compare On First Principles, preface 2–3).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip): [Al. ut] → ; [Al. inquis] → ; [Al. istius] → ; [Al. tac. dicit] → ; aniipam → animam.

Extrabiblical texts: Origen, Princ. (Origen, On First Principles; allusion)

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.29 (PL 21:567a–568a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.30PL 21:569b–570a

Sed majora adhuc ex consequentibus, sicut promisimus, ostendemus. Post hoc enim quod dixerat, nos ante sperasse in Christo, et ex eo jam tempore, id est, ante constitutionem mundi, et antequam in corporibus nasceremur, in caelis esse benedictos et electos, iterum illum suum alium introducit, ei dicit, « Alius vero hoc dogma non sustinens, quod ante fuerimus et speraverimus in Christo, quam in isto corpore degeremus, illo intelligentiam transfert. » Hoc in loco omnem suum foetorem quisquis ille est, isie ejus alius exhalavit. Dicat enim nobis hic, quem vult alium esse, qui hoc dogma non sufferat, quod antequam in hoc corpore deberemus, et fuerimus, et speraverimus in Christo, hoc est enim pro quo damnari jubet Origenem. Quem vult hic alium intellexisse? an aliquem contrarium sibi? Quid dicis, magister? bicorni illo urgeris, de quo exponere discipulis soles. Si enim hic alium istum qui ante fuisse animas quam in corpore degerent, non recipit, te esse dixeris, proditum est, quod in superioribus celabatur. Inveniris enim tua confessione alius ille tu esse, qui definis omnia dogmata, quae damnari jubes. Si vero non es tu in superioribus alius, ne libi ea quae improbas adscribantur, nec hic tu eris alius, qui non sustineas ante fuisse animas quam in corpore degeremus. Elige utramlibet excusationis partem. Istum alium, quem frequenter inducis, te vis intelligamus, an alterum aliquem? catholicum eum vis videri, an haereticum? damnandum, an absolvendum? Si catholicus est iste alius tuus, qui iu superioribus dicebat, ante hunc mundum visibilem fuisse animas cum Angelis, et caeteris virtutibus in superiori Jerusalem in caelestibus constitutas, et ibi vivendo contraxisse caussas sibi diversitatis, vel nascendi in hoc mundo, vel alias quaslibet conditiones tolerandi, erunt ergo ista catholica dogmata, et interim impium damnare quod catholicum est. Si vero alium istum haereticum dixeris, haereticum destgnabis eum, qui fuisse animas non recipit, et sperasse in Christo antequam in corpore nascerentur. Qua hinc exitur, magister? Quo erumpitur? quo rursum evaditur? Quocunque te converteris, haerebis. Non dico nullus subtrahendi te aditus datur, sed ne respirandi quidem paululum fit copia. Sic tibi Alexandri tui Aristotelici Commentarii profuere? sic Porphyrii? sic te tol et tantorum Philosophorum Graecae et Latinae, insuper et Judaicae eruditionis excoluit disciplina, ut in istas angustias tam inextricabiles devenires, et tam miserabiliter coarctareris, ut nec ad Alpes posses esse defensus?

But we will show still greater things from what follows, as we promised. For after he had said that we "hoped before in Christ," and that from that time, that is, before the foundation of the world and before we were born in bodies, we were blessed and chosen in the heavens, he again brings in that "other" of his, and says: "But another, not accepting this doctrine, that we existed and hoped in Christ before we lived in this body, transfers the meaning to this." In this place this "other" of his, whoever he is, has breathed out all his foulness. For let him tell us whom he wishes to be this "other," who does not endure the doctrine that before we lived in this body we both existed and hoped in Christ; for this is the very thing for which he bids Origen be condemned. Whom does he wish to be understood here as "another"? Someone contrary to himself? What do you say, master? You are pressed by that horned dilemma which you are accustomed to explain to your pupils. For if you say that this "other," who does not accept that souls existed before they lived in the body, is you, then what was hidden in the earlier passage is betrayed: for by your own confession you are found to be that "other" who defines all the doctrines you bid be condemned. But if you are not the "other" in the earlier passage, so that what you reject may not be ascribed to you, neither will you be the "other" here, who does not endure that souls existed before we lived in the body. Choose whichever side of the excuse you please. Do you wish us to understand this "other" whom you so often bring in to be you, or someone else? Do you wish him to seem catholic or heretic? To be condemned or acquitted? If this "other" of yours is catholic, who said in the earlier passage that before this visible world souls existed with the angels and the other powers, placed in the heavens in the Jerusalem above, and there by their manner of life contracted the causes of their diversity, either of being born in this world or of enduring any other conditions, then these will be catholic doctrines, and meanwhile it is impious to condemn what is catholic. But if you call this "other" a heretic, you will mark as a heretic him who does not accept that souls existed and hoped in Christ before they were born in the body. Where is the way out of here, master? Where does one break out? Where does one escape again? Wherever you turn, you will stick fast. I do not say that no way of withdrawing yourself is given, but not even a little room to breathe. Is this how the commentaries of your Alexander on Aristotle have profited you? Is this how Porphyry's have? Has the training of so many and such great philosophers, Greek and Latin, and of Jewish learning besides, so cultivated you that you have come into these straits so inextricable, and are so wretchedly hemmed in that you could not be defended even as far as the Alps?

Eph 1:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:3–4 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus presses the dilemma: whichever "other" is Jerome's own voice, Jerome either teaches the pre-existence of souls or condemns its denial as heretical.

  • NPNF² 3 has before this a longer passage (Jerome on προηλπικότες in Eph 1:12, and Rufinus thanking God that Jerome himself owns the "other" view of the earlier passage), which is not in the text printed here.
  • "Hoped before in Christ": Eph 1:12; blessed and chosen: Eph 1:3–4.
  • Alexander of Aphrodisias and Porphyry wrote commentaries on Aristotle's logic, which Jerome says he studied. The last phrase ("not even as far as the Alps") is obscure in the Latin; it is translated literally.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; stray letter): [Al. transferet] → ; [Al. alium] → ; [Al. aut et vel] → ; [Al. ibi] → ; [Al. aliquas] → ; [Al. recepit] → ; [Al. possis] → ; Sed b majora → Sed majora; esso benedictos → esse benedictos; haecreticum dixeris → haereticum dixeris.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.30 (PL 21:569b–570a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.31PL 21:570a–571c

Sed parcamus jam: deferendum est literis, et ut ipse ait, operi magno somnus non est adseribendus, quanquam ipse parcat nemini, et non tam ratione dictorum quam flagello linguae, quos libitum fuerit verberet. Et si quis et minus adulabitur, continuo haereticus et scriptis et missis per diversa centum codicibus destgnetur. Tamen nos non ipsum. sed Patriarcham imitemur David, qui comprhensum in spelunca inimicum suum Saul, cum posset jugulare, noluit; sed ei pepercit, quod et iste sibi a nobis aliquoties factum, non solum verbo sed et re atque opere, etiam si fateri non vult, corde tamen et conscientia retinet. Demus ergo veniam ei, qui dare veniam nescit, qui sine ullo humanitatis respectu de dictis alterius judicat, et interim educamus eum de hac spelunca, usquequo in illam incidat, de qua etiam si omnes conemur et cupiamus, exire non possit. Dicat ergo, qui potest fieri, ut in superioribus illis, ubi istud dogma confirmabatur ab eo qui justum Deum conabatur ostendere: ubi alium quem dixit, vere ne alterius persona fuerit talis quadem nunc condemnari vult: hic vero ubi contrarius est, et non recipit, quae in superioribus dicta sunt, alium seipsum dixerit. Potest enim fieri, ut conscius sibi sit, ita sensisse se cum scriberet, licet stilo id non potuerit explicare. Sit ergo venia, et ponamus in hoc loco istum alium, hunc esse ipsum, qui non recipit dogma, quod dicit, animas fuisse antequam in corpore degeremus, et sperasse in Christo, Repetamus ipsum capitulum, et quo rursus tendat, diligentius prosequamur. Ait itaque: « Alius vero hoc dogma non sustinens, quod ante fuerimus, et speraverimus iu Christo, quam in isto corpore degeremus, illo intelligentiam transfert, ut dicat in adventu Domini Salvatoris, quando in nomine ejus omne genu flectetur, caelestium et terrestrium et infernorum et omnis lingua confitebitur, quia Dominus Jesus Christus in gloria est Dei Patris, cum ei fuerint universa subjecta, alios voluntate, alios necessitate subjiciendos, et eos qui ante praesentiam majestatis ejus speraverint in eum, futuros esse in laudem gloriae ejus, ct vocari προηλπικότας: eos vero qui reperti fuerint necessitate credentes, eo tempore quo nec diabolus, nec angeli ejus poterunt negare regnantem, esse sperantes, sed non in laudem gloriae ejus. Quod quidem et nunc ex parte videmus expleri, quia alia sit merces ejus, qui voluntate sequatur Deum, alia qui necessitate. Veruntamen sive per occasionem, sive per veritatem, tantum Christus annuncietur: dummodo sciat, et sperans, et ante sperans, quod pro diversitate spei diversa sint praemia recepturi

But let us spare him now: we must defer to letters and, as he himself says, sleep is not to be charged to a great work; though he himself spares no one, and flogs whom he pleases not so much by the reasoning of what was said as with the lash of his tongue. And if anyone flatters him rather less, he is at once branded a heretic by writings and by a hundred copies sent in all directions. Yet let us imitate not him but the patriarch David, who, when he had caught his enemy Saul in the cave, would not cut his throat though he could, but spared him; which this man also, even if he will not admit it, keeps in his heart and conscience as having been done to him by us more than once, not only in word but in deed and act. Let us then grant pardon to one who does not know how to grant pardon, who judges another's sayings without any regard for humanity, and meanwhile let us lead him out of this cave, until he falls into that one from which, even if we all try and wish it, he cannot get out. Let him say, then, how it can be that in that earlier passage, where this doctrine was confirmed by him who was trying to show that God is just, where he spoke of "another," it was truly another's person, such as he now wishes condemned; while here, where the "other" is contrary and does not accept what was said earlier, he called himself "another." For it may be that he is conscious of having held this view when he wrote, though he could not express it with his pen. Let there be pardon, then, and let us suppose that in this place this "other" is himself, who does not accept the doctrine which says that souls existed before we lived in the body and hoped in Christ. Let us take up the chapter itself again and follow more carefully where it tends. He says, then: "But another, not accepting this doctrine, that we existed and hoped in Christ before we lived in this body, transfers the meaning to this: he says that at the coming of the Lord and Saviour, when in his name every knee shall bow, of things in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue shall confess that the Lord Jesus Christ is in the glory of God the Father, when all things have been subjected to him, some will be subjected by will and others by necessity; and those who hoped in him before the presence of his majesty will be to the praise of his glory and will be called proēlpikotes; but those who are found believing by necessity, at the time when neither the devil nor his angels will be able to deny him as he reigns, will be hoping, but not to the praise of his glory. This we see partly fulfilled even now, because the reward of him who follows God by will is one thing, and that of him who follows by necessity another. Yet, whether in pretence or in truth, provided only Christ is proclaimed: so long as both he who hopes and he who hoped before know that they will receive different rewards according to the difference of their hope."

1 Sam 24:3–7 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:10–11 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:28 (echo, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus offers Jerome a way out, supposing the second "other" is Jerome himself, and quotes the commentary's view that all, even the devil and his angels, will be subjected to Christ, some willingly and some by necessity.

  • Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians 1, on Eph 1:12. The Greek word is garbled in the digital text and restored as προηλπικότας ("those who hoped before").
  • "Sleep is not to be charged to a great work": compare Horace, Ars poetica 360, which Jerome echoes.
  • David and Saul: 1 Sam 24:3–7; "every knee…": Phil 2:10–11; "whether in pretence or in truth…": Phil 1:18.
  • The doctrine that the devil and his angels will finally be subjected to Christ is translated as quoted, without comment.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; garbled Greek in the digital text; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed): compr(??) → compr; (??) → ; [Al. damnari] → ; [Al. explanare] → ; [Al. transferet] → ; [Al. confiteatur] → ; epturi(??) → epturi; π^οηλίΓοιοτκί → προηλπικότας; speraveriut → speraverint.

Extrabiblical texts: Horace, ars-poetica.360 (Horace; echo); Jerome, Comm. Eph. (Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians; quotation)

Topics: Eschatology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.31 (PL 21:570a–571c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.32PL 21:571c–572a

Omnis in hoc loco adimitur cavillationis occasio. In superioribus dixisti, quod hi qui ante speraverunt in Christo, illi sunt qui antequam in hoc visibili mundo in corporibus nascerentur, spem in Christo habuerunt in caelestibus positi. Sed ne Istud dogma tuum esse videretur, aliam introduxisti expositionem. qua dicis eo tempore, quo omne genu flectetur Domino Jesu, universa creatura caelestium, terrestrium et infernorum duobus ei modis erit subjecta, quidam voluntate, qui iam necessitate. Et voluntate ais subjectos Sanctos omnes, qui per verba praedicationis modo ei credunt, et istos vocari προηλπικότας, id est, qui ante speraverunt in Christo. Necessitate autem subjectos, qui nunc quidem per praedicationem verbi non cred derunt: tunc autem jam negare non poterunt, sicut diabolus et angeli ejus, et qui cum ipsis necessitate ceciderunt, quique omnes cum quibus, et diabolus et angeli ejus, quia postea credent, non vorabuntur ante sperantes, pro eo silicet quod illi ante crediderunt in Christo, et speraverunt in eum voluntate; isti vera postmodum, et necessitate. Et ideo ais eos diversa praemia recepturos. Praemia tamen ponis in his omnibus, qui modo non credunt, id est, diabolo et angelis ejus, licet inferiora, et eum de cujus sola poenarum aliquando venia opinionem, non sententiam alterius arguis, lu in regno Christi ad praemia secunda perducis. Et hoc vis intelligi, quia sicut nihil interest utrum veritate, an necessitate Christus annuncietur: ita nihil refert necessitate, an voluntate credatur.

In this place every opportunity for quibbling is taken away. In the earlier passage you said that those who "hoped before in Christ" are those who, before they were born in bodies in this visible world, had hope in Christ while placed in the heavens. But so that this doctrine might not seem to be yours, you brought in another exposition, in which you say that at the time when every knee shall bow to the Lord Jesus, the whole creation of things in heaven, on earth and under the earth will be subjected to him in two ways, some by will, others by necessity. And you say that by will all the saints are subjected, who now believe in him through the words of preaching, and that these are called proēlpikotes, that is, those who hoped before in Christ. But by necessity those are subjected who now indeed have not believed through the preaching of the word, but then will no longer be able to deny, like the devil and his angels and those who by necessity have fallen with them; and all these, with whom also the devil and his angels, because they will believe afterwards, will not be called "those who hoped before," for the reason that the former believed in Christ before and hoped in him by will, but these later and by necessity. And therefore you say they will receive different rewards. Yet you place rewards for all these who do not now believe, that is, for the devil and his angels, though lower ones; and him, of whom you censure in another the mere opinion, not the judgment, that his punishment will at some time be remitted, you yourself lead to second rewards in the kingdom of Christ. And you wish this to be understood: that as it makes no difference whether Christ is proclaimed in truth or by necessity, so it matters nothing whether one believes by necessity or by will.

Phil 2:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 1:18 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus concludes that Jerome's second exposition promises lesser rewards even to the devil and his angels, a view harsher than the opinion Jerome condemns in Origen.

  • Rufinus's inference about the devil is his own reading of Jerome's commentary, translated as written. The Greek word is restored as προηλπικότας.
  • "Every knee…": Phil 2:10; "in truth…": Phil 1:18.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; OCR slips; garbled Greek in the digital text; garbled word in the digital text, read by sense): [Al. jam] → ; [Al. ejus] → ; τ:ροη\κΐγ.6τας → προηλπικότας; c(??)dulerunt → ceciderunt; postmadum → postmodum; utrem veritate, an necesstate → utrum veritate, an necessitate.

Topics: Eschatology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.32 (PL 21:571c–572a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.33PL 21:572a–572b

Haec sunt, quae nobis discere de Commentariis tuis jubes. Istas nos regulas confusionis fidei doces, ut hoc damnetur in aliis, quod domi discitur. Nam utique si tu es nunc alius, qui primum dogma illud non sustines, quod animas iu caelestibus fuisse dicit, antequam in corporibus tur: tu es sine dubio, qui diabolum et angelos ejus atque omnes incredulos, non solum venia donas, verum etiam secundis munerandos esse praemiis polliceris. Si vero hoc secundum dogma refugis, tu eris primi illius dogmatis pater.miror quomodo isti prudentes et eruditi viri, qui haec ejus legunt script, de quibus nunc illa ab illo, scribuntur, rideant de me, quod me talpam nominet, et non sentiant se magis ipsos ab eo talpas judicari, quos putat haec in suis libris non videre defossa. Si enim putaret eos legentes intelligere posse, nunquam ad condemnanda ea, quae ipse magister docet, istorum librorum habere jussisset exemplum, in quibus ea ipsa plenius et manifestius continentur, quae condemnare nos suadet. Ostendimus interim istum ipsum asserere in istis electis Commentariis suis ea quae damnari in alterius libris jubet, id est, quod animae fuerint in caelestibus antequam in hoc mundo in corporibus nascerentur, et quod omnes, vel peccatores, vel increduli cum diabolo et angelis ejus, cotempore quo omne genu flectetur Jesu, caelestium et terrestrium et infernorum, non solum veniam accipient, verum etiam ad secunda praemia vocabuntur.

These are the things which you bid us learn from your commentaries. These are the rules of confusion in the faith that you teach us, so that what is learned at home is condemned in others. For certainly, if you are now the "other" who does not endure that first doctrine, which says that souls existed in the heavens before they were in bodies, you are without doubt the one who not only grants pardon to the devil and his angels and all unbelievers, but even promises that they are to be rewarded with second prizes. But if you shun this second doctrine, you are the father of that first doctrine. I wonder how these prudent and learned men who read these writings of his, about which these things are now written by him, laugh at me because he calls me a mole, and do not perceive that they are rather judged moles by him, since he thinks they do not see these things buried in his books. For if he thought that as readers they could understand, he would never have bidden them take the copy of these books for condemning the very things which the master himself teaches, books in which those very things which he urges us to condemn are contained more fully and plainly. We have shown meanwhile that he himself asserts in these chosen commentaries of his the things which he bids be condemned in another's books: namely, that souls existed in the heavens before they were born in bodies in this world; and that all, whether sinners or unbelievers, with the devil and his angels, at the time when every knee shall bow to Jesus, of things in heaven and on earth and under the earth, will not only receive pardon but will also be called to second rewards.

Phil 2:10 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus sums up: Jerome's own chosen commentaries teach both the pre-existence of souls and a final reward even for the devil, the doctrines he condemns in Origen.

  • "Every knee…": Phil 2:10.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; OCR slips; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed): (??) → ; script(??) → script; [Al. tac. istum] → ; [Al. videt] → ; [Al. immitterentur] → ; us, co(??) → us, co; [Al. tac. etiam] → ; luis jubes → tuis jubes; tu etis primi illus → tu eris primi illius; is uni → istum.

Topics: Eschatology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.33 (PL 21:572a–572b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.34PL 21:572b–574a

Sed quoniam haec rei novitas, non dubito quod fidem difficile mereatur, ut quis credatur ea damnare quae adstruit; scio quid destderatis, ut si possumus talia es eisdem libris profemus exempla, et tam evidentia, ni nullus omnino de his cuiquam dubndi restdeat locus, id est. ubi ne ille quidem alius suus nominetur: et ita faciam. Item ex eodem libro, quod in saeculi fine Christus, et omnes Sancti sui supra daemones habebunt sedem, ut et ipsi daemones secundum voluntatem sedentis supra se Christi, et Sanctorum ejus agant: Ex eo capitulo ubi dicit Apostolus, Ut ostenderet soeculis supervenientibus abundantes divitias gra tioe suoe, in bonitate super nos in Christo Jesu, post pauca: « Quod nos, inquit, qui quondam lege tenebamur inferni, et propter vitia atque peccta ut operibus carnis, ita eramus et supp destinati, nunc in Christo regnemus, sedeamusque cum eo. Sedeamus autem non in humili quocunque loco, sed super omnem Principatum, Potestatem et Dominationem, et omne nomen quod nominatur, non solum in hoc saeculo, sed etiam in futuro. Si enim Christus resuscitatus est a mortuis, et sedet ad dexteram Dei in caelestibus super omnem Principatum, et Potestatem, et Dominationem, et super omne nomen quod nominatum est, non solum in hoc saeculo, sed et iu futuro. et nos sedebimus regnabimusque cum Christo, necesse est, ut super his, super quae sedet ille, sedeamus. Sed qui diligens Lector est, statim dicet et requiret: Quid ergo, major homo angelis et cunctis in caelo potestatibus? Quod quia pericul sum est respondere, Principatus, Potestates, ac Virtutes, et Dominattones, et omne nomen quod nominatur non solum in hoc saeculo, sed etiam in futuro (maxime quia omnia subjecta sunt Christi pedibus) non ad bonam partem, sed ad contrariam referre, ut dicat eas esse angelos refugas, et principem mundi hujus, et Luciferum qui mane oriebatur, super quibus sancti in fine saeculi sessuri sunt cum Christo, illis quoque tribuente beneficium, qui nunc inferni, et male libertate sua abutentes vagentur passim et per praecipitia corruant pecca·: torum. Cum autem tales habuerint sessores, juxta sedentium voluntatem incipient gubernari, » Numquid et hic ambiguitas aliqua derelicta est, ut locus hic egeat assertore? Ubi evidentiss me, nulla Illus alii sibi interjecta persona, dicit, angelos refugas, et principem mundi hujus, et Luciferum qui mane oriebatur, in fine, Christo supersedente et regnante cum sanctis luis, consortes ac socios, non solum regni ejus, sed et voluntatis futuros. Secundum voluntatem namque Christi, et omnium Sanctorum ejus, agere, hoc est, ad summam beatitudiue pervenisse. Neque enim est alia perfectio Orationis, qua supplicare nos docuit Patri, nisi ut fiat voluntas ejus, sicut in coelo et in terra.

But since the novelty of the thing, I do not doubt, hardly earns belief, that anyone should be believed to condemn what he builds up, I know what you desire: that, if we can, we bring forward from the same books examples so clear that no room at all for doubt about them remains for anyone, that is, where not even that "other" of his is named. And so I will do. Again from the same book: that at the end of the age Christ and all his saints will have their seat above the demons, so that the demons themselves act according to the will of Christ and of his saints seated above them. From the heading where the Apostle says, "That he might show in the ages to come the abundant riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus," after a little: "That we," he says, "who were once held by the law of hell, and through vices and sins, as by works of the flesh, were thus destined also to punishment, now reign in Christ and sit with him. And we sit not in some low place, but above every principality, power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the age to come. For if Christ has been raised from the dead and sits at the right hand of God in the heavens above every principality and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the age to come, and we too shall sit and reign with Christ, it is necessary that we sit above the things above which he sits. But the careful reader will at once say and ask: What then, is man greater than the angels and all the powers in heaven? Since it is dangerous to answer this, he refers the principalities, powers, virtues, dominions and every name that is named not only in this age but also in the age to come (especially since all things are subjected to Christ's feet) not to the good side but to the contrary, so as to say that they are the fugitive angels, and the prince of this world, and Lucifer who rose in the morning, above whom the saints will sit with Christ at the end of the age, conferring a benefit on them too, who now are infernal and, misusing their freedom, wander everywhere and fall headlong over the precipices of sins. But when they have such rulers seated over them, they will begin to be governed according to the will of those seated over them." Is any ambiguity left here too, so that this place needs a defender? Where most plainly, with no person of that "other" interposed, he says that the fugitive angels, and the prince of this world, and Lucifer who rose in the morning, will at the end, when Christ sits above them and reigns with his saints, be partners and companions not only of his kingdom but also of his will. For to act according to the will of Christ and of all his saints is to have arrived at the highest blessedness. For there is no other perfection of the prayer in which he taught us to pray to the Father than that his will be done, as in heaven so also on earth.

Eph 2:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 2:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:20–21 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:22 (allusion, high confidence) · John 12:31 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 14:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 6:10 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus quotes Jerome's comment on Eph 2:6–7 that the fallen angels and Lucifer will at the end be governed by the will of Christ and his saints, and argues that this implies their final blessedness.

  • Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians 1, on Eph 2:7. Rufinus's conclusion that being governed by Christ's will means blessedness is his own inference, translated as written.
  • "That he might show…": Eph 2:7; "sit with him": Eph 2:6; "above every principality…": Eph 1:20–21; "all things subjected…": Eph 1:22; "the prince of this world": John 12:31; "Lucifer who rose in the morning": Isa 14:12; "your will be done…": Matt 6:10.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; Migne's variant-reading note removed; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed; OCR slip; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed): [Al. possimus] → ; profe(??) → profe; am dub(??) → am dub; e pecc(??) → e pecc; t supp(??) [Al. supplicio] → t supp; [Al. est homo] → ; [Al. refert] → ; [Al. vagantur] → ; [Al. corruunt] → ; [Al. voluntates] → ; [Al. assessore] → ; [Al. tac. ejus] → ; (??) → ; habehunt → habebunt; socculi → saeculi; Ime est → hoc est.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Comm. Eph. (Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians; quotation)

Topics: Eschatology, Prayer, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.34 (PL 21:572b–574a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.35PL 21:574a–574c

Sed quaeso patienter audite, non quidem omnia, quae de ipsis dogmatibus in libris ejus continentur revolventem (tanta enim sunt, ut plura mihi, si exsequi ea cupiam, volumini conscribenda sint, sed tanta quanta satisfacere legentibus possint: quod non iste casu in haec incidat, quae nunc discipulis imitanda proponit, sed latissima et frequenti assertione confirmat. Sed videamus quae sunt, quae nos ex his probatissimis edocet Commentariis. Item ex eodem libro, quod non solum in praesenti saeculo, verum etiam in futuro ascensus sit hominum et descensus, de eo capitulo, in quo ait: « Super omnem Principatum, Potestatem, ac Virtutem, et Dominationem, et omne nomen quod nominatur non solum in hoc soeculo, verum etiam in futuro, post aliquanta: Si autem sunt, inquit, Potestates, Virtutes, et Principatus, et Dominationes, necesse est, ut et subjectos habeant, ei timentes se, et servientes sibi, et eos qui a sua fortitudine roborentur. Quae distributiones officiorum, non solum in praesentiarum, sed etiam in futuro saeculo erunt: ut per singulos profectus et honores, ascensiones etiam et descensiones, vel crescat alius, vel decrescat, et sub alia atque alia Potestate, Virtute, Principatu, atque Dominatione fiat. »

But listen patiently, I pray, not indeed to one going through everything about these doctrines that is contained in his books (for they are so many that if I wished to pursue them I should have to write several volumes), but as much as may satisfy readers: that he does not fall into these things by chance, which he now sets before his disciples to imitate, but confirms them with very broad and frequent assertion. But let us see what he teaches us from these most approved commentaries. Again from the same book: that not only in the present age but also in the age to come there is an ascent and descent of men. On the heading where he says, "Above every principality, power, virtue and dominion, and every name that is named not only in this age but also in the age to come," after some other matter: "But if there are powers, virtues, principalities and dominions," he says, "it is necessary that they also have subjects, who fear them and serve them, and who are strengthened by their might. These distributions of offices will exist not only in the present but also in the age to come, so that by particular advances and honours, by ascents also and descents, one may grow or decrease, and come under one or another power, virtue, principality and dominion."

Eph 1:21 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus quotes Jerome's comment on Eph 1:21 that in the age to come beings will rise and fall from one rank to another.

  • Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians 1, on Eph 1:21.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; uncertain-character mark of the digital text removed): a sint(??) → a sint; (??) → ; [Al. tacetur a] → ; [Al. praeventi] → ; [Al. aliquis] → ; nominator non solum → nominatur non solum; sed diam in → sed etiam in.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Comm. Eph. (Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians; quotation)

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.35 (PL 21:574a–574c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 3 (Fremantle, 1892; Jerome 2.26–2.32, omitted there, re-read against the Latin); differences checked against the Latin.

1.36PL 21:574c–575b

Cur, magister, ut tuis tecum verbis agam, post quadringentos fere annos quietas et simplices haec Latinorum mentes doces? Cur novas voces, quas ab Apostolis nemo suscepit, insuetis auribus ingeris? Quaeso te, ut parcas Romanis auribus, parcas fidei, quae Apostoli voce laudata est. Cur in medium profers quod Petrus et Paulus edere noluerunt? Usquequo tu haec scriberes, non Usquequo ego interpretarer, ut doces; sed usquequo haec ante quindecim fere annos scriberes, sine his, mundus Christianus non fuit? Quid enim tu modo, doces, quod in futuro saeculo adhuc ascensiones descensiones fiant, et proficiant aliqui, et aliqui decrescant? Ergo illud quod dicis, in hoc saeculo. vita, vel acquiritur, vel amittitur, non est verum: au occultam habet aliquam interpretationem? Non enim poenitentiam agis pro his, quae in istis Commentariis continentur, Item quod Ecclesta unum corpus non solum ex hominibus, sed et ex Angelis, et omnibus Virtutibus coelestibus intelligendum sit, ex eodem libro, de eo capitulo, in quo scriptum est: Et ipsum dedit caput super omnem Ecclestam, post pauca: Non solum, inquit, hominum, sed etiam Angelorum cunctarumque Virtutum, et rationabilium creaturarum, Ecclesta intelligi potest. Item quod animae, quia in illa priori vita noverant Deum, modo eum non quasi ignotum cognoscant, sed quasi post oblivionem denuo agnoscant, ex eodem libro ita dicit: « Quod vero ait, in agnitione ejus, id est, ἐπιγνώσει, quidam sic intelligunt, ut inter γνῶσιν καὶ ἐπίγνωσιν, hoc est inter notionem et agnitionem, illud intersit, quod notio eorum sit, quae ante non scivimus, et ea postea scire coepimus; agnitio vero eorum quae postea recordamur. Et priorem quamdam vitam in coelestibus suspicamur, postquam in corpora ista dejecti, et obliti Dei Patris, nunc eum per revelationem cognovimus, secundum illud quod scriptum est: Reminiscentur et convertentur ad Dominum omnes fines terroe, et multa his similia »

Why, master, to deal with you in your own words, after nearly four hundred years do you teach these things to the quiet and simple minds of the Latins? Why do you thrust upon unaccustomed ears new words which no one received from the apostles? I beg you to spare the ears of the Romans, to spare the faith which was praised by the Apostle's voice. Why do you bring into the open what Peter and Paul were unwilling to publish? Until you wrote these things (not, as you teach, until I translated, but until you wrote them about fifteen years ago), was the Christian world without them? For what is it that you now teach, that in the age to come there will still be ascents and descents, and some will advance and some decrease? Then what you say, that in this age life is either gained or lost, is not true; or has it some hidden interpretation? For you do not repent of the things contained in these commentaries. Again, that the church is to be understood as one body made up not only of men but also of angels and all the heavenly powers: from the same book, on the heading where it is written, "And he gave him as head over all the church," after a little: "The church," he says, "can be understood as consisting not only of men but also of angels and all the powers and rational creatures." Again, that souls, because they knew God in that former life, now know him not as one unknown but recognize him anew as after forgetting him: from the same book he speaks thus: "As to what he says, 'in the knowledge of him,' that is, en epignōsei, some understand it thus, that between gnōsis and epignōsis, that is, between knowing and recognizing, there is this difference: knowing concerns things we did not know before and afterwards began to know, while recognizing concerns things which we afterwards remember. And we suspect a certain former life in the heavens, since, after being cast down into these bodies and forgetting God the Father, we have now come to know him by revelation, according to what is written: 'All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord'; and many things like these."

Rom 1:8 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:27 (21:28 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus turns Jerome's own words against him and quotes the Ephesians commentary on the church as including angels and on knowledge of God as recollection from a former life.

  • "To deal with you in your own words": Rufinus echoes Jerome's letter to Pammachius and Oceanus (Ep. 84.8), which asks why such teachings are brought to Rome after four hundred years.
  • Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians 1, on Eph 1:22 and 1:17. The Greek words are garbled in the digital text and restored from the sense.
  • "The faith praised by the Apostle": Rom 1:8; "All the ends of the earth…": Ps 22:27 (LXX 21:28).
  • NPNF² 3 numbers this chapter 36; there is no 37 in this edition (a misnumbering).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip; OCR slips; garbled Greek in the digital text): [Al. interpretabor] → ; [Al. illud] → ; [Al. universi] → ; επι*/νώσεε → ἐπιγνώσει; yv&iσι-j v.od έττίγνωσιν → γνῶσιν καὶ ἐπίγνωσιν; ab Apo totis → ab Apostolis; lere annos → fere annos; sinc his, mund s → sine his, mundus.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Ep. 84.8 (Letters; allusion); Jerome, Comm. Eph. (Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians; quotation)

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.36 (PL 21:574c–575b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 3 (Fremantle, 1892; Jerome 2.26–2.32, omitted there, re-read against the Latin); differences checked against the Latin.

1.38PL 21:575b–577a

Quod autem ait: Quia quidam haec dicunt, puto me satis evidenter in superioribus edocuisse, quod si quando ponit, Quia quidam haec dicunt, vel, Alius dicit, nec tamen ista quae dicuntur destruit: iste ipse sit quidam, vel alius, maxime cum jam concordes his sententias, absque ulla hujusmodi Interjectione personae, ab eo dictas frequenter ostenderim. Sed quid adhuc est, quod ei displicet in alio? Et astra, inquit, vel extera quae in coelo sunt, rationabilia dicit et delicti capacia. Videamus ergo quid ipse de talibus sentiat, In eodem libro ex eodem capitulo, ubi scriptum est: Oportet enim eum regnare, donec ponat inimicos suos sub pedibus suis, post aliquanta: « Potest, Inquit, ita responderi, quod absque peccato nullus sit. Et sidera ipsa non sint munda coram Deo, omnisque creatura paveat Creatoris adventum. Unde crux Salvatoris non solum ea quae in terris sunt, sed etiam quae in coelis erant, purgasse perhibetur. » Item quod propter corpus humilitatis et corpus mortis, homines filii irae appellentur, ex eodem libro de eo capitulo, ubi scriptum est: Eramus natura filii iroe sicut et coeteri; post aliquanta: « Nos vero, inquit, dicamus esse primum omnes homines natura filios irae propter corpus humilitatis et corpus mortis: et quod ab adolescentia mens hominum apposita sit ad malitiam.» Item quod prima sit animae factura, et deinceps corporis plasmatio, ex eodem libro sub eodem capitulo, post multa: « Et diligenter, inquit, observa, quia non dixit ipsius figuratio sumus atque plasmatio, sed ipsius factura. Plasmatio quippe originem de terrae limo trahit: factura vero juxta similitudinem et imaginem Dei sumpsit exordium. Quod in centestmo decimo octavo Psalmo simul positum diversa significat. Manus tuoe. Domine, fecerunt me, et plasmaverunt me, Factura primum locum tenet, deinde plasmatio, » Quid adhuc aliud est, quod condemnari vult? Dicat ut id de ejus libris, immo de ejus corde proferamus. Quod enim, inquit, unam naturam et animarum, et Angelorum, molestum est hoc. Sed videamus quid ipse de hoc sentiat in his libris, quos nobis ad confessionis exemplum et ad credendi regulam ponit, Item ex eodem libro de eo capitulo, ubi scriptum est: Veniens evangelizavit pacem his qui longe, et his qui prope; et quod cum de Judaeis, et de Gentibus primum dictum exposuisset, postmodum addidit haec: « Et haec quidem juxta Vulgatam interpretationem dicta sint. Caeterum qui illud Apostoli legit, de Christo memorantis, Pacem faciens per sanguinem crucis suoe his quoe in terra erant, et his quoe in coelis, et caetera quae in eodem dicuntur loco, non putabit nos, qui juxta spiritum Israel vocamur, fuisse longe et Judaeos, qui tantummodo Israel nuncupantur in carne, fuisse prope. Et hanc totam intelligentiam ad Angelos virtutesque coelestes, et ad animas temperabit humanas, quod in suo Christus sanguine terrena et coelestia copulaverit, quae inter se dissidebant. Et bonus pastor morbidam ad montes revectans ovem, fecerit esse cum caeteris: drachmamque quae perierat, drachmis quae salvae fuerint, copulaverit, »

As to his saying, "Some say these things," I think I have shown clearly enough above that whenever he puts "Some say these things," or "Another says," and yet does not destroy what is said, he himself is that "some" or "another," especially since I have often shown that views agreeing with these were stated by him without any such interposition of a person. But what else is there that displeases him in another? "He says," he declares, "that the stars and the other things in heaven are rational and capable of sin." Let us see, then, what he himself thinks about such things. In the same book, from the same heading, where it is written, "For he must reign until he puts his enemies under his feet," after some other matter: "It can be answered," he says, "that no one is without sin. Even the stars themselves are not clean before God, and every creature fears the coming of the Creator. Hence the cross of the Saviour is said to have cleansed not only the things on earth but also the things that were in heaven." Again, that because of the body of humiliation and the body of death men are called children of wrath: from the same book, on the heading where it is written, "We were by nature children of wrath like the rest," after some other matter: "But let us say," he says, "that all men are first by nature children of wrath because of the body of humiliation and the body of death, and because from youth the mind of men is set on evil." Again, that the making of the soul comes first and then the moulding of the body: from the same book under the same heading, after much else: "And observe carefully," he says, "that he did not say 'we are his figure and moulding,' but 'his workmanship.' For moulding draws its origin from the clay of the earth, but workmanship took its beginning according to the likeness and image of God. These two, set together in the hundred and eighteenth Psalm, signify different things: 'Your hands, Lord, have made me and moulded me.' Making holds the first place, then moulding." What else is there that he wishes condemned? Let him say, so that we may bring it out of his books, or rather out of his heart. "That he makes one nature of souls and of angels," he says, "this is offensive." But let us see what he himself thinks about this in these books which he sets before us as a model of confession and a rule of belief. Again from the same book, on the heading where it is written, "And coming he preached peace to those far off and to those near": when he had first explained it of the Jews and Gentiles, he afterwards added this: "And let this be said according to the common interpretation. But whoever reads the Apostle's words about Christ, 'making peace through the blood of his cross with the things that were on earth and those in heaven,' and the rest that is said in the same place, will not think that we, who in the spirit are called Israel, were far off, and the Jews, who are called Israel only in the flesh, were near. And he will apply this whole meaning to the angels and heavenly powers and to human souls: that Christ in his blood joined the earthly and the heavenly, which were at variance with each other. And the good shepherd, carrying back the sick sheep to the mountains, made it be with the rest; and joined the drachma that was lost to the drachmas that were safe."

1 Cor 15:25 (quotation, high confidence) · Job 25:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 2:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:21 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 7:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 8:21 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 2:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 119:73 (118:73 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 2:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 15:4–10 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Rufinus quotes further passages of Jerome's Ephesians commentary, on stars not being clean, the soul made before the body, and angels and souls as the sheep and the lost sheep.

  • Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians 1 (on Eph 1:22, citing 1 Cor 15:25) and 2 (on Eph 2:3, 2:10, 2:17).
  • NPNF² 3 numbers this chapter 38; there is no 37.
  • "He must reign…": 1 Cor 15:25; "the stars are not clean": Job 25:5; the cross cleansing things in heaven: Col 1:20, Heb 9:23; "children of wrath": Eph 2:3; "body of humiliation", "body of death": Phil 3:21, Rom 7:24; "from youth…": Gen 8:21; "his workmanship": Eph 2:10; "Your hands…": Ps 119:73 (LXX 118:73); "preached peace…": Eph 2:17; "making peace…": Col 1:20; the sheep and the drachma: Luke 15:4–10.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's inline Scripture reference removed; Migne's variant-reading note removed; OCR slip): [Al. quidem] → ; (1. Cor. 15. 25.) → ; [Al. Salvatotis] → ; [Al. humanitatis] → ; [Al. dixerit] → ; [Al. in] → ; [Al. primo] → ; [Al. sunt] → ; [Al. fuerant] → ; Vibdeamus → Videamus; natuiam → naturam.

Extrabiblical texts: Jerome, Comm. Eph. (Jerome, Commentary on Ephesians; quotation)

Topics: Heresy, Christology

Cite (SBL): Rufinus, Apol. Hier. 1.38 (PL 21:575b–577a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/rufinus-apologia-hieronymum/1-27/#p-1-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 3 (Fremantle, 1892; Jerome 2.26–2.32, omitted there, re-read against the Latin); differences checked against the Latin.