Sermons to the People 380.1–381.1

Latin text: PL 38 (Latin text: Migne, PL 38, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: NPNF 1/6: Sermons on Selected Lessons of the New Testament (R. G. MacMullen, ed., 1888).

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Chapter 380

380.1PL 39:1628

Quietis et parva vox sufficit. Si autem vultis, fratres, quieti audire, nolite habere cor in auribus, sed aures in corde. Hodiernum diem beati Joannis Baptistæ solemnitati illuxisse tradit et credit Ecclesia. Oportet autem hoc de ipso die credere, quod sine varietate totus orbis agnoscit: sed quia Joannis esse diem nemo dubitat, non Joannis qui Evangelium scripsit, sed Joannis Baptistae præcursoris Domini, qui tanto magnus apparuit, quanto se humilem præbuit, dicens, cum ipse Christus putaretur, non se dignum corrigiam calceamenti solvere ei, quem Dominum agnoscebat, ut amicus esse mereretur. Nonnulli autem putant passionis ejus diem hodie celebrari. Sciat prius Sanctitas vestra, nativitatis esse diem, non passionis. Ex lectione quippe evangelica invenitur ejus nativitas sex mensibus præcedere Domini nativitatem. Et quoniam diem nativitatis Domini octavo calendarum januariarum die consensus tradit Ecclesiæ; restat ut hodiernus dies nativitatis Joannis intelligatur.

To those who are quiet even a small voice is enough. If you want to hear, then, brothers, be quiet: do not have your heart in your ears, but your ears in your heart. The Church hands down and believes that today has dawned as the feast of blessed John the Baptist. One must believe this about the day itself, since the whole world acknowledges it without variation; and no one doubts that it is John's day, not that of the John who wrote the gospel but of John the Baptist, the Lord's forerunner, who appeared as great as he showed himself humble when, though he himself was thought to be the Christ, he said that he was not worthy to untie the strap of the sandal of the one he acknowledged as Lord, so that he might merit to be his friend. Some, however, think that the day of his passion is celebrated today. Let your Holiness know first that it is the day of his birth, not of his passion. For from the gospel reading it is found that his birth preceded the Lord's birth by six months. And since the agreement of the Church hands down the eighth day before the Kalends of January as the day of the Lord's birth, it follows that today is to be understood as the day of John's birth.

John 1:27 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:36 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Today's feast is the birthday of John the Baptist, not his passion: he was born six months before Christ, whose birth the Church keeps on 25 December.

  • This sermon is printed by the Maurists among the doubtful sermons; its authorship by Augustine is doubted.
  • The opening words "Nativitates Christi duæ. Superbia, tumor. Incarnationis causa, ut homini Deus exemplum præberet" ("Christ's two births. Pride is a swelling. The reason for the incarnation: that God might give man an example") are Migne's marginal headings (they belong to the next section) and have been removed.
  • The eighth day before the Kalends of January is 25 December; John's birthday is 24 June.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings; OCR slip): Nativitates Christi duæ. Superbia, tumor. Incarnationis caUla, ut homini Deus exemplum præberet. Quietis → Quietis; Hodiernum dit m → Hodiernum diem.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.1 (PL 39:1628; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).

380.2PL 39:1628

Præcessit ergo Joannes Dominum, non tanquam magister discipulum, sed tanquam præcursor judicem; non ut superimponeret potestatem, sed ut præberet officium. Ipsius autem testimonium Joannis de hac re sic se habet: Qui post me venit, ante me factus est, quia prior me erat. Post Joannem venit Dominus nascendo de virgine Maria, non de Patris substantia. Duas enim Domini nativitates accepimus, unam divinam, alteram humanam; tamen utramque mirabilem: illam sine matre, istam sine Patre: illam æternam, ut crearet temporalem; hanc temporalem, ut praestaret æternam. Ille enim de quo dicit Joannes, non Baptista, sed Evangelista, quia In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum, et quia omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil ( Joan. I, 15, 1, 3): ille tantus in forma Dei æqualis Patri, ille sine tempore fabricans tempora, ille ex nullo sæculo ante omnia saecula judex sæculi, factus est tam parvus, ut de femina nasceretur; sed mansit tam magnus, ut a Patre non separaretur. Ei præbentes obsequium et testimonium, tanquam lucernæ venturo diei, omnes Prophetæ praenuntiantes eum ante ipsum nascendo venerunt, post ipsum credendo adhaeserunt. Oportebat enim ut praenuntiaretur venturus, miracula facturus: quibus miraculis, bene intelligentibus indicaretur Deus; humano autem aspectu videntibus appareret homo, parvus ad parvos, sed humilis ad superbos: parvitate sua docens hominem, ut se agnosceret parvum; ne, non grandescendo, sed tumescendo, se crederet magnum. Est enim superbia, non magnitudo, sed tumor. Ut ergo generis humani istum tumorem sanaret ipse medicus, ipse medicina, non solum medicamentum adhibens, sed medicamentum se faciens, apparuit inter homines homo, offerens hominem videntibus, Deum servans credentibus. Aspectus enim humanitatis ejus sanavit infirmos; contemplatio divinitatis ejus quærit firmos. Et nondum erant homines qui Deum viderent in homine, nec poterant videre nisi hominem; nec tamen spem suam ponere debent in homine. Quid ergo fieret? Homo hominem videre potest, homo hominem sequi non debet. Deus sequendus erat, qui videri non poterat: homo sequendus non erat, qui videri poterat. Ut ergo exhiberetur homini, et qui ab homine videretur, et quem homo sequeretur, Deus factus est homo. O homo, propter quem Deus factus est homo, aliquid magnum te credere debes: sed descende, ut ascendas; quia et Deus descendendo factus est homo. Adhæresce medicamento tuo, imitare magistrum tuum, agnosce Dominum tuum, amplectere fratrem tuum, intellige Deum tuum. Hoc ille tantus et tantillus, vermis, non homo; sed per quem factus est homo. Hoc ergo ille: quid Joannes, nisi quod de illo Dominus, nisi quod de illo verax, nisi quod de illo veritas dicit? Si enim ipsi Joanni debemus credere de veritate, veritati non credimus de Joanne?

John went before the Lord, then, not as a teacher before a disciple but as a forerunner before a judge; not to set authority over him, but to render him service. John's own testimony on this point runs thus: "He who comes after me was made before me, because he was before me." The Lord came after John by being born of the virgin Mary, not of the Father's substance. For we have received two births of the Lord, one divine, the other human, yet both wonderful: the one without a mother, the other without a father; the one eternal, to create what is temporal; the other temporal, to bestow what is eternal. For he of whom John says (not the Baptist but the evangelist), "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God," and "All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made": he, so great, equal to the Father in the form of God, he who without time fashions times, he who from no age and before all ages is the judge of the age, became so small as to be born of a woman, yet remained so great as not to be separated from the Father. Rendering him service and testimony, like lamps before the coming day, all the prophets who foretold him came before him in birth and clung to him afterwards by faith. For it was fitting that he should be foretold as one who would come and work miracles: by those miracles God would be shown to those who understand well, while to those who see with human sight he would appear as man, small to the small, but humble to the proud, teaching man by his smallness to recognize himself as small, lest, not by growing great but by swelling, he think himself great. For pride is not greatness but swelling. So, to heal this swelling of the human race, he, himself the physician and himself the medicine, not only applying medicine but making himself the medicine, appeared among men as a man, offering the man to those who see, keeping God for those who believe. For the sight of his humanity healed the weak; the contemplation of his divinity seeks the strong. And there were not yet people who could see God in the man; they could see only the man; yet they ought not to put their hope in man. What then was to be done? Man can see man, but man ought not to follow man. God was to be followed, who could not be seen; man was not to be followed, who could be seen. So that there might be shown to man both one who could be seen by man and one whom man could follow, God became man. O man, for whose sake God became man, you ought to believe yourself something great; but come down, that you may go up, for God too became man by coming down. Cling to your medicine, imitate your teacher, acknowledge your Lord, embrace your brother, understand your God. This is he, so great and so little, a worm and no man, yet the one through whom man was made. This, then, is he: and what is John, if not what the Lord says of him, what the truthful one says of him, what the Truth says of him? For if we must believe John himself about the Truth, shall we not believe the Truth about John?

John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Gal 4:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 5:35 (echo, medium confidence) · Ps 22:6 (21:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John went before Christ as forerunner, not teacher; Christ's two births, eternal and temporal, show God made small to heal human pride, the visible man whom we may follow because he is God.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip; stray mark; OCR slips): praberet → præberet; nascendo do virgine → nascendo de virgine; humannm → humanam; lemporalcm → temporalem; acternam * → æternam; ex nullo sacculo → ex nullo sæculo; Oportebat euim → Oportebat enim; Est enim superbia, Den magnitudo → Est enim superbia, non magnitudo; lftedicus → medicus; medicamentum se iaciens → medicamentum se faciens; Aspectus cnim → Aspectus enim; homines qni Deum → homines qui Deum; nee tamen spem suam pOllere dcbent → nec tamen spem suam ponere debent; videri non potorat: homo sequendus non crat, qui videri potcrat → videri non poterat: homo sequendus non erat, qui videri poterat; homini, ct qui ab homine videretur, et quem homo scqucretur → homini, et qui ab homine videretur, et quem homo sequeretur; propter quem Dcus factus → propter quem Deus factus; credere debcs → credere debes; magistrum tunm → magistrum tuum; Deum luum → Deum tuum; vcrmis, non homo; sed per quem factus cst homo → vermis, non homo; sed per quem factus est homo; nisi qnod de illo verax, nisi qnod de illo veritas → nisi quod de illo verax, nisi quod de illo veritas; dehemus → debemus.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.2 (PL 39:1628; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).

380.3PL 39:1628–1629

Dicat testimonium primo veritati ipsius particeps veritatis; et dicat testimonium homini Conditor hominis. Primo audiamus quid Joannes de Christo, et deinde quid Christus de Joanne; priorem audiamus, sed posteriorem intelligamus: prior loquatur qui prius natus est, sed confirmetur per eum a quo factus est. Post me, inquit, venit, et ante me factus est. Hic jam, qui credunt factum ante cætera per quem facta sunt omnia, calumniantur his verbis vel per hæc verba nobis, et dicunt, Ecce quia factus est: Joannes dicit, Post me venit, et ante me factus est. Expone mihi quid sit, ante me factus est. Verba illorum dico, et ea discutienda propono. Soletis, inquiunt, dicere, quando aliquid tale de Christo dicitur, ut eum Patre minorem ostendat, quod ad hominem sit referenda sententia; ut quod in forma Dei est, aequalis sit Patri, quod autem semetipsum exinanivit formam servi accipiens, in similitudinem hominum factus, et habitu inventus ut homo, major sit Pater. Quid ergo dicetis ad hoc quod Joannes ait, ante me factus est? Audi quid dicamus: sed prius illud vide, quod Apostolus utrumque distinguens, et unum tamen in utroque eumdemque commendans, non dixit, Formam Dei accipiens. De forma vero Dei quid dixit? Cum in forma Dei esset: respiciens ad illum qui vocatus erat ante illum, in cujus Evangelio est, In principio erat Verbum; imo respiciens ad illud lumen, unde et ille hoc dixit. Neque enim dixit Joannes, In principio fecit Deus Verbum: qui posset dicere ita, ut dixit Moyses, quia de creatura facta a Domino Deo loquebatur, In principio fecit Deus cœlum et terram. Cum ergo ille, si hoc sentiret quod Ariani sentiunt, posset dicere, In principio fecit Deus Verbum; non hoc ait: sed ait, In principio erat Verbum. Quod in principio erat, factum non erat. Neque enim praecessit aliquid de facto Verbo. Omnia enim quæ Deus fecit, Verbo fecit: Dixit, et facta sunt; mandavit, et creata sunt. Inter dicentem ut fiat, et quod factum est a dicente, plurimum distat: sed si dicens est, Verbum habet; si Verbum habet, per Verbum fecit; si per Verbum fecit, Verbum non fecit.

Let one who shares in the truth bear witness first to the Truth himself; and let the maker of man bear witness to the man. First let us hear what John says of Christ, and then what Christ says of John; let us hear the earlier, but understand by the later: let him speak first who was born first, but let him be confirmed by him by whom he was made. "He comes after me," he says, "and was made before me." Here those who believe that the one through whom all things were made was himself made before the rest cavil at these words, or use them against us, and say: "See, he was made: John says, He comes after me, and was made before me. Explain to me what 'was made before me' means." I am stating their words and setting them out to be examined. "You are accustomed," they say, "when something of this kind is said of Christ that shows him less than the Father, to say that the statement is to be referred to the man: so that, in that he is in the form of God, he is equal to the Father, but in that he emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, made in the likeness of men and found in appearance as a man, the Father is greater. What then will you say to John's words, 'was made before me'?" Hear what we say. But first notice that the apostle, distinguishing the two and yet commending one and the same person in both, did not say, "taking the form of God." What did he say of the form of God? "Though he was in the form of God"; looking to what the other John had said, in whose gospel stands "In the beginning was the Word"; or rather looking to that light from which John too said it. For John did not say, "In the beginning God made the Word," though he could have spoken as Moses did, who, because he was speaking of the creation made by the Lord God, said, "In the beginning God made heaven and earth." Since, then, if he had thought what the Arians think, he could have said, "In the beginning God made the Word," he did not say it; he said, "In the beginning was the Word." What was in the beginning was not made. For nothing of a made Word went before. For all the things God made, he made by the Word: "He spoke, and they were made; he commanded, and they were created." Between the one who speaks so that a thing may be made and what is made by the speaker the distance is very great: but if he is the one who speaks, he has a Word; if he has a Word, he made through the Word; if he made through the Word, he did not make the Word.

John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:6–7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:9 (32:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against the Arian reading of John 1:15 ("was made before me"): the evangelist did not say "God made the Word" as Moses said "God made heaven and earth," but "In the beginning was the Word"; what God made through the Word cannot include the Word.

  • The opening words "Verbum siquidem erat in principio, factum non erat" ("The Word was indeed in the beginning; it was not made") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed; the importer also removed "Ex verbis Joannis Arianorum calumniæ" ("The Arians' cavils from John's words").
  • The obscure phrase "respiciens ad illum qui vocatus erat ante illum" is translated by sense as a reference to John the evangelist.
  • The anti-Arian argument is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; stray mark): Verbum siquidem erat in principio, factum non erat. Dicat → Dicat; et 'dicat testimonium → et dicat testimonium; anie me factus → ante me factus; ad ilium qui → ad illum qui; Deus feci I, Verbo fecit → Deus fecit, Verbo fecit.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.3 (PL 39:1628–1629; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).

380.4PL 39:1629

Quare, inquiunt? Annon audisti et de terra, Terra erat invisibilis et incomposita? Si propterea, inquiunt, dicis Verbum factum non esse, quia dictum est, Verbum erat; nec terra facta est, quia dictum est, Terra erat. O cæca et hæretica insania! Attende, si est unde attendas; audi, si est unde audias: ne sonus inaniter aurem percutiat, cujus cor veritas non illustrat. Verba ejusdem Scripturae dicturus sum, quæ ibi invenisti cum legeres, et praetermisisti cum litigares. Nempe propterea putas tale aliquid dictum de Verbo Dei, cum dictum est, In principio erat Verbum; quale dictum est de terra, quia dictum est, Terra erat invisibilis et incomposita. Ego tibi in hoc libro Geneseos superiora verba recitabo, quod antequam diceret scriptor Dei famulus, Terra erat; ut appareret quia facta erat, prius dixit, In principio fecit Deus cœlum et terram. Ecce ego prius tibi edidi terram factam; et factam utique a Deo, sonante Scriptura et in aures recusantis irrumpente, In principio fecit Deus cælum et terram. Facta erant hæc; sed nondum ornata, nondum declarata: terra nondum distincta, sed tamen jam facta. Ne autem putares continuo terram factam sic fuisse, ut non in ea esset quod ornaretur, subsecutus ait: Facta erat quidem, quia in principio fecit Deus cœlum et terram; terra autem, quam fecit Deus, adhuc invisibilis erat et incomposita. Ostendit tibi qualis erat, quæ facta erat; non quia erat, quæ facta non erat. Poterat ergo dicere Joannes, In principio fecit Deus Verbum, Verbum autem erat; quomodo, In principio fecit Deus coelum et terram; terra autem erat: ut iste esset ordo verborum, In principio fecit Deus Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum; ut intelligeremus quia hoc Verbum erat apud Deum, quod Verbum fecerat Deus. Nunc vero audis, In principio erat Verbum. Quid quæris anteriora factus extremior? Extremior enim tu in errore tuo factus es: de imo loqueris, et ad ima respicis. Vellem, si de imo loquereris, ut sursum cor tenderes, et clamares de profundo ad Dominum: rumperet nubes caliginis carnis tuæ, aperiret oculos humilitati lux quæ venit in humilitate; videres, In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum; hoc erat in principio apud Deum. Dicat et Paulus, Qui cum in forma Dei esset. Quid de humana nativitate dicit Joannes? Et Verbum caro factum est (Joan. I, 1, 2, 3, 14). Dicat et Paulus, Semetipsum exinanivit, formam servi accipiens. Quid ergo dicebas de verbis Joannis Baptistae? Eadem mihi nunc ea repete, nunc ea loquere. Quid ait Joannes Baptista? Post me venit. Agnosco nativitatem. Ille de sterili, ille de virgine. Sterilitas conversa est in fecunditatem: virginitas mansit post fecunditatem.

"Why?" they say. "Have you not heard of the earth too, The earth was invisible and unformed? If," they say, "you say that the Word was not made because it was said, The Word was, then neither was the earth made, because it was said, The earth was." O blind and heretical madness! Pay attention, if you have the means to pay attention; listen, if you have the means to listen, lest the sound strike the ear in vain where the truth does not enlighten the heart. I am going to state the words of the same Scripture, which you found there when you read it and passed over when you were quarreling. You think, of course, that something of the same kind was said of the Word of God when it was said, "In the beginning was the Word," as was said of the earth, "The earth was invisible and unformed." I will recite to you the earlier words in this book of Genesis: before the writer, God's servant, said, "The earth was," he first said, so that it might be plain that it had been made, "In the beginning God made heaven and earth." See, I have first shown you the earth made, and made by God, as the Scripture sounds and bursts into the ears of the unwilling: "In the beginning God made heaven and earth." These had been made, but not yet adorned, not yet set in order: the earth not yet given its distinctions, but already made. And so that you would not think that the earth had at once been made in such a way that there was nothing in it to be adorned, he went on to say: it had indeed been made, because "in the beginning God made heaven and earth"; but the earth which God made "was still invisible and unformed." He showed you what the earth was like that had been made; not that it existed without having been made. John, then, could have said, "In the beginning God made the Word; and the Word was," just as "In the beginning God made heaven and earth; and the earth was," so that the order of the words would be, "In the beginning God made the Word, and the Word was with God," and we would understand that the Word which God had made was with God. But as it is, you hear, "In the beginning was the Word." Why do you look for something prior, you who have become the lowest? For you have become the lowest in your error: you speak from the depths and look to the depths. I would wish, if you speak from the depths, that you would lift up your heart and cry to the Lord from the depths: the light that came in humility would break the clouds of darkness of your flesh and open your eyes to humility; you would see, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; he was in the beginning with God." Let Paul too say, "Who, though he was in the form of God." What does John say of the human birth? "And the Word became flesh." Let Paul too say, "He emptied himself, taking the form of a servant." What, then, were you saying about the words of John the Baptist? Repeat them to me now; say them now. What does John the Baptist say? "He comes after me." I recognize the birth. The one was born of a barren woman, the other of a virgin. Barrenness was turned into fruitfulness; virginity remained after fruitfulness.

Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 130:1 (129:1 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:1–2 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6–7 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 1:7 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Arians compare "the Word was" with "the earth was" (Gen 1:2), but Genesis first says "God made heaven and earth"; John says no such thing of the Word, and "he comes after me" refers to Christ's human birth.

  • The opening words "Arianorum cavillatio: similiter dictum esse in Genesi, Terra erat" ("The Arians' cavil: that 'The earth was' is said in the same way in Genesis") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slips; stray mark): Arianorum cavillatio: similiter dictum esse in Genesi, Terra erat. Quare → Quare; nee terra facta est → nec terra facta est; 0 caeca → O cæca; nudi, si est unde audias → audi, si est unde audias; Verbum,; quale → Verbum; quale; adbuc invisibilis → adhuc invisibilis; Ostendit libi → Ostendit tibi; Verbum autem crat → Verbum autem erat; Verbum crat apud Deum → Verbum erat apud Deum; In pripcipio → In principio; in forma Dei esaet → in forma Dei esset; Verbum curo factum eat (Joan. i, i, 2, 3,14) → Verbum caro factum est (Joan. I, 1, 2, 3, 14); virginitai mansit → virginitas mansit.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.4 (PL 39:1629; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina 38 (Maurist text; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged). Sermons outside 51–147 have no public-domain English and were re-read against the Latin; sermons 51–147 were compared section by section with NPNF¹ 6 (MacMullen, 1888).

380.5PL 39:1629–1630

Sed Joannes, inquit, si secundum hoc dixisset factum, secundum quod ex virgine natus est, non diceret, ante me factus est; quia ex virgine post illum factus erat. Ergo, ante me factus est, quid est, nisi quia in principio Verbum factum erat? Sic enim ante Joannem erat; nam ex virgine post Joannem erat. Accipe, et si non rixaris, adverte. Aliquantum enim forte subobscurum est quod vis intelligere, ut rixando tibi augeas fumum, quo impediaris ab intellectu. Scripturam illam primo intuere, quae te docet ut docilis fias. Esto mansuetus ad audiendum verbum, ut intelligas. Patere ergo paulisper: forte inveniemus quomodo dictum sit, ante me factus est; dum tamen non intelligamus factum Verbum per quod facta sunt omnia. Quomodo, inquit? Si potero, dicam: si dicere non potero, non tamen non est quod dicat qui dicere potuerit. Credo autem et spero, quod illius majestas Unigeniti, qui cum esset Verbum, infans factus est, aperiet infantiam linguæ meæ, et faciet in ore partum, qui fecit in corde conceptum. Ecce dicam ut potero: intellige ut potes; et quod non poteris intelligere, noli reprehendere, quasi jam magnus sis; sed differ, ut crescere merearis. Certe hoc te movet, quomodo dictum sit, Qui post me venit, ante me factus est. Moveat plane ut quaerentem, non ut rixantem. Certe et ego quæro tecum: simul inveniemus, si simul quæramus; ambo accipiemus, si ambo petamus; utrique nostrum aperietur, si ambo pulsemus. Post me venit, inquit: agnosce nativitatem ex virgine Maria. Ante me factus est: quid est, ante me factus est? Intellige, antepositus est mihi. Ille qui post me venit, factus est ante me. Quomodo si duo ambulent in itinere, et unus sit tardior, alter velocior, et præcedat tardior aliquantum, post paululum autem sequatur velocior; respicit tardior præcedens velociorem sequentem, et dicit, Post me venit. Et ecce accelerante illo, et propinquante, et adhærente, et transeunte, videt ille anteriorem, quem respiciebat posteriorem: certe si celeritatem ejus expavescat quodam modo et admiretur, nonne poterunt esse ista verba ejus: Ecce homo post me erat, et ante me factus est? Quid est hoc, qui post me erat, ante me factus est? Qui ambulabat post me, celeritate ejus factum est ut esset ante me. Nam si ubicumque legeris, factus est, non intelligis nisi formatum esse qui non erat; et Dominum Deum dicturus es factum, de quo dictum est, Factus est mihi Dominus in refugium. Factus est Dominus adjutor; et, Factus est mihi in salutem (Psal. CIrrI, 14). Quoties factus? Et ipse fecit omnia. Ergo intellige mecum verba. Neque enim tacuit idem Joannes et illud quod Verbum erat; ne ibi putares significasse Verbum, quando dixit, ante me factus est: ut noveris ad hoc pertinere ante me factus est, quia præcessit me, quia glorificatus est amplius me, quia cum me intenderent homines præcursorem, agnoverunt Dominum, quem nascendo praecesseram, quem obsequendo nuntiaveram; spesque eorum, concursus eorum in Dominum factus est; glorificatus est ille tanquam Filius Dei, ante me factus, secundum id quod Apostolus ait, Propterea Deus exaltavit eum, et donavit illi nomen quod est super omne nomen, ut in nomine Jesu omne genu flectatur, cœlestium, terrestrium, et infernorum. Gloria ergo ejus non esse coepit, sed innotuit. Factus est ante Joannem, quia præcessit honore Joannem.

"But John," he says, "if he had called him made in respect of his birth from the virgin, would not say, 'was made before me,' because from the virgin he was made after John. So what does 'was made before me' mean, if not that in the beginning the Word had been made? For in that respect he was before John; from the virgin he was after John." Listen, and if you are not quarreling, pay attention. For what you want to understand is perhaps somewhat obscure, so that by quarreling you only increase the smoke that keeps you from understanding. Look first at the Scripture that teaches you to become teachable: "Be gentle in hearing the word, that you may understand." Be patient, then, for a little while: perhaps we shall find in what sense it was said, "was made before me," without understanding that the Word through whom all things were made was himself made. "How?" he says. If I can, I will tell you; and if I cannot, it does not follow that there is nothing to be said by one who can say it. But I believe and hope that the majesty of the Only-begotten, who, being the Word, became an infant, will open the infancy of my tongue and bring to birth in my mouth what he has made conceived in my heart. See, I will say it as I can; understand it as you can; and what you cannot understand, do not find fault with as though you were already great; but put it off, so that you may merit to grow. Certainly this troubles you: how it could be said, "He who comes after me was made before me." Let it trouble you as one who seeks, not as one who quarrels. Certainly I too am seeking with you: we shall find together if we seek together; we shall both receive if we both ask; it will be opened to both of us if we both knock. "He comes after me," he says: recognize the birth from the virgin Mary. "He was made before me": what does "he was made before me" mean? Understand: he has been placed ahead of me. He who comes after me has been made ahead of me. It is as when two are walking on a road, one slower and the other faster, and the slower goes on ahead some distance, and after a little the faster follows: the slower, looking back from in front at the faster one following, says, "He is coming after me." And then, as the other quickens his pace, comes near, catches up, and passes him, he sees ahead of him the one he had looked back at behind; and surely, if he is somewhat alarmed and amazed at his speed, could he not say: "See, the man was behind me, and he has been made ahead of me"? What does it mean, "he who was behind me has been made before me"? He who was walking behind me, by his speed, came to be ahead of me. For if wherever you read "was made" you understand only that one was formed who did not exist before, you will have to say that the Lord God was made, of whom it is said, "The Lord was made my refuge"; "The Lord was made my helper"; and "He was made my salvation." How often was he made? And he himself made all things. So understand the words with me. For the same John did not keep silent about the fact that the Word was, lest you should think he meant the Word when he said, "was made before me"; so that you may know that "was made before me" refers to this: that he went ahead of me, that he was glorified more than I, that when people were paying attention to me, the forerunner, they came to recognize the Lord, whom I went before in being born and whom I announced in serving him; and their hope and their thronging turned to the Lord; he was glorified as the Son of God, made before me, according to what the apostle says: "Therefore God exalted him and gave him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, on earth, and under the earth." His glory, then, did not begin to be, but became known. He was made before John because he went ahead of John in honor.

John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:7–8 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 94:22 (93:22 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 30:10 (29:11 Vulg.) (quotation, medium confidence) · Ps 118:14 (117:14 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:9–10 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: "Was made before me" does not mean the Word was created: as a faster walker overtakes a slower, Christ, coming after John, was set ahead of him in honor, just as God is said to be "made" our refuge.

  • The opening words "Objectio: Christum dici factum, in quantum Verbum est. Christus ante Joannem factus, id est ante positus ipsi et prælatus" ("Objection: that Christ is called made inasmuch as he is the Word. Christ made before John, that is, placed ahead of him and preferred") are Migne's marginal headings and have been removed.
  • "Be gentle in hearing the word, that you may understand" is Sir 5:11 (5:13 Vulgate).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal headings; OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break split; split word; stray mark): Objectio: Christum dici factum, in quantum Verbum eat. Christus ante Joannem factus, id eat ante positua ipsi et pralatus. Sed Joannes → Sed Joannes; Sie enim → Sic enim; ab in. tellectu → ab intellectu; ante me factus eat; dum → ante me factus est; dum; linguae meae I et faciet → linguæ meæ, et faciet; ma gnus → magnus; post me vertit → post me venit; aperictur → aperietur; antepositus est milii. Ute qui → antepositus est mihi. Ille qui; post me crat, ct antc me → post me erat, et ante me; farium est ut esset aute mc. Namsi → factum est ut esset ante me. Nam si; Ncquc enim → Neque enim; Verbum crat; ne ibi putarcs → Verbum erat; ne ibi putares; anie me factus est, quia → ante me factus est, quia; Duminum → Dominum; spesque corum, concursus corum ill Dominum → spesque eorum, concursus eorum in Dominum; honorc Joannem → honore Joannem.

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 5:11 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.5 (PL 39:1629–1630; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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380.6PL 39:1630–1631

Sed vide utrum merito. Interroga ipsum Joannem: Ille qui post te venit, quare ante te factus est? Qui te sequebatur, quare tibi prælatus est? Sequitur, Quia prior me erat. Hoc est, In principio erat Verbum. Ergo merito ante me factus est, quia prior me erat. Prior Joanne, prior Abraham, prior quam Adam, prior quam cœlum et terra, prior quam Angeli, Sedes, Dominationes, Principatus et Potestates. Quare prior? Quia omnia per ipsum facta sunt. Agnoscat servus humilitatem suam: ostendat Dominus majestatem suam. Dicat idem Joannes, Non sum dignus corrigiam calceamenti ejus solvere. Multum se humiliaret, si diceret, Dignus sum. Quid enim si diceret dignum? numquid sedere in judicio ad dexteram Patris? numquid venire ad judicandos vivos et mortuos? Quid si diceret dignum solvere corrigiam calceamenti? Magna humilitas, si hoc est dignus amicus sponsi. Dicturus enim erat amicum se esse sponsi: et ne in illa amicitia æqualitas forte ab aliquo imprudente intelligeretur; dicit se amicum propter amorem, dejicit se ad vestigia propter timorem. Et parum est quod se ad vestigia deponit; nec dignum se dicit solvere corrigiam calceamenti. Humilis profecto, si dignum solvere; sed quia nec dignum se dicit solvere, dignus qui exaltaretur ab humilitate. Dicat etiam apertius, dicat distinctius, quid est, Post me venit, ante me factus est. Dixit enim et causam, quia prior me erat. Quoniam, In principio erat Verbum; et, Cum in forma Dei esset, non rapinam arbitratus est esse æqualis Deo. Illum oportet crescere, me autem minui. Oportebat ut cresceret qui posterior venit, et minueretur qui anterior venit. Si crevit qui posterior venit, ante ipsum factus est crescendo. Illum, inquit, oportet crescere, me autem minui. Hoc est, ante me factus est. Et quomodo crevit Christus, minutus est Joannes? Præcessit ætate Joannes Dominum in nativitate humana; creverunt ambo annis accedentibus, statura carnis, et pervenerunt ad certum modum sicut homines. Sed Joannes homo, Christus Deus et homo. In divinitate si intelligamus quia crevit Christus, absurdi sumus, et nimis erramus. Crescit enim aliquid, ut proficiat. Deus quo crescat non habet: si enim habet quo crescat, minor erat antequam cresceret. Redeamus ad formam carnis. Ipsa cum Joanne crevit, non illo minuto crevit. Referamus ergo fortassis ad gloriam; et intelligamus, Illum oportet crescere, me autem minui, secundum hoc dictum, quod post me venit, et ante me factus est. Joannes enim personam sustinebat hominis, et loquebatur ex typo generis humani, ad quod salvandum venerat Christus. Dixeramus autem, fratres, humilis Deus venit ad superbum hominem. Agnoscat homo se hominem, appareat Deus homini. Etenim si ideo venit Christus, ut humiliaretur homo, et ex humilitate cresceret homo; oportebat ut gloria jam cessaret hominis, et commendaretur gloria Dei: ut spes hominis esset in gloria Dei, non in gloria sua, dicente Apostolo, Qui gloriatur, in Domino glorietur (I Cor. I, 31). Recte ergo dicitur homini, Quid habes quod non accepisti? Si autem accepisti, quid gloriaris, quasi non acceperis? Hunc typum humilitatis humanæ Joannes ostendens, quia quantum proficiebat opinio et fama Christi, non statura Christi, non majestas Christi, non sapientia, non Verbum Dei; sed fama illa, quae cœpit a minimo, et jam tenet orbem terrarum: gloria Christi, non gloria hominis, ut agnoscat homo humilitatem suam, impertiat Deus divinitatem suam. Etenim gloria Dei, fratres, gloria nostra est. Quantum dulcius glorificatur Deus, tantum nobis prodest. Non enim altior erit Deus, quia honoramus illum: humiliemus nos, et exaltamus illum. Scriptum est enim, Exaltabo te, Domine. Quid est, Exaltabo te? In terra erat, et eum in cælo posuisti? Et homo exaltat Deum? Quid est, Exaltabo te? Altum te confitebor. Confiteatur ergo se homo hominem; decrescat prius, ut crescat. Dicat Joannes, decrescendo ad humilitatem, non se esse dignum, qui solvat corrigiam calceamenti, et intelligat se participando illuminatum fieri.

But see whether this was deserved. Ask John himself: "He who came after you, why was he made before you? He who followed you, why was he preferred to you?" It goes on: "Because he was before me." That is, "In the beginning was the Word." So deservedly he was made before me, because he was before me. Before John, before Abraham, before Adam, before heaven and earth, before the angels, Thrones, Dominions, Principalities and Powers. Why before? Because all things were made through him. Let the servant acknowledge his lowliness; let the Lord show his majesty. Let the same John say, "I am not worthy to untie the strap of his sandal." He would be humbling himself greatly even if he said, "I am worthy." For what if he said he was worthy? Worthy to sit in judgment at the Father's right hand? Worthy to come to judge the living and the dead? What if he had said he was worthy to untie the strap of the sandal? Great humility, if the bridegroom's friend is worthy of this. For he was going to say that he was the bridegroom's friend; and lest some imprudent person should take that friendship to mean equality, he calls himself friend because of love, and throws himself down at his feet because of fear. And it is not enough that he lays himself at his feet: he does not even call himself worthy to untie the strap of his sandal. Humble indeed, had he called himself worthy to untie it; but because he does not call himself worthy even to untie it, he was worthy to be exalted for his humility. Let him say more openly, let him say more distinctly, what "he comes after me, he was made before me" means. For he has also given the reason: "because he was before me." For "in the beginning was the Word"; and "though he was in the form of God, he did not count it robbery to be equal with God." "He must increase, but I must decrease." It was fitting that he who came later should increase, and he who came earlier decrease. If he who came later increased, he was made ahead of him by increasing. "He must increase," he says, "but I must decrease." That is, "He was made before me." And how did Christ increase and John decrease? John went before the Lord in age, in human birth; both grew as the years went by, in bodily stature, and reached a certain measure, as men do. But John was man; Christ was God and man. If we understand that Christ increased in his divinity, we are absurd and gravely mistaken. For a thing increases in order to advance; God has nothing to grow into: for if he had something to grow into, he was less before he grew. Let us go back to the form of the flesh: it grew together with John; it did not grow while John was diminished. Let us refer it, then, perhaps to glory, and understand "He must increase, but I must decrease" in line with the saying, "He comes after me and was made before me." For John bore the person of man and spoke as a type of the human race, which Christ had come to save. We said, brothers, that God came humble to proud man. Let man recognize himself as man; let God appear to man. For if Christ came so that man might be humbled, and from humility man might grow, it was fitting that the glory of man should now cease and the glory of God be commended, so that man's hope might be in God's glory, not his own, as the apostle says, "Whoever glories, let him glory in the Lord." Rightly, then, is it said to man, "What do you have that you did not receive? But if you received it, why do you glory as if you had not received it?" John showed this type of human humility: as the reputation and fame of Christ advanced (not the stature of Christ, not the majesty of Christ, not his wisdom, not the Word of God, but that fame which began from the smallest beginning and now holds the world), it was the glory of Christ, not the glory of man, so that man might recognize his lowliness and God might share his divinity. For the glory of God, brothers, is our glory. The more sweetly God is glorified, the more it profits us. For God will not be higher because we honor him: let us humble ourselves, and we exalt him. For it is written, "I will exalt you, O Lord." What does "I will exalt you" mean? Was he on earth, and have you set him in heaven? Does man exalt God? What does "I will exalt you" mean? I will confess you to be high. Let man, then, confess himself to be man; let him decrease first, so that he may increase. Let John, decreasing into humility, say that he is not worthy to untie the strap of the sandal, and let him understand that he becomes enlightened by participation.

John 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:58 (echo, medium confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:27 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:29 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:30 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:31 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 4:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 30:1 (29:2 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ was rightly set before John because he existed before all things; John's humility ("he must increase, I must decrease") is the type of human humility, which gives God the glory that is also our good.

  • The importer removed Migne's marginal heading at this section ("the following words of John agree with the interpretation given").

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break split; punctuation slip; split word): quare ante te factus cst? Qui tesequcbatur, quare tibi praclatus cst?Sequitur → quare ante te factus est? Qui te sequebatur, quare tibi prælatus est? Sequitur; IIoc est → Hoc est; factus eat, quia prior me erat → factus est, quia prior me erat; Principatus ct Potestates → Principatus et Potestates; facla sunt → facta sunt; vcnirc ad judicandos → venire ad judicandos; essc sponsi: ct ne → esse sponsi: et ne; dicit sc amicum propter amorem, dcjicit se → dicit se amicum propter amorem, dejicit se; Et parum esi quod → Et parum est quod; Ilumilis profecto, si dignum soh'cre; scd quia nec dignum sc dicit soh'ere, dignus qui cxaltarclur → Humilis profecto, si dignum solvere; sed quia nec dignum se dicit solvere, dignus qui exaltaretur; ante me factus cst. Dixit enim et causam, quia prior tue erat → ante me factus est. Dixit enim et causam, quia prior me erat; qui posterior vcnit, et minueretur qui anterior venit Si crevit qui posterior vcnit → qui posterior venit, et minueretur qui anterior venit. Si crevit qui posterior venit; Hoc eat, aute me factus est → Hoc est, ante me factus est; minutus cst Joannes? Præcessit,elate Joannes → minutus est Joannes? Præcessit ætate Joannes; Chritus Deus → Christus Deus; nimis crramus. Crescit enim aliquid, ut proficial. Deus quo crescat non habct: si enim habcl → nimis erramus. Crescit enim aliquid, ut proficiat. Deus quo crescat non habet: si enim habet; Rcferamus → Referamus; Jllum oportet → Illum oportet; hominis, ct loquebalur → hominis, et loquebatur; Agnoscat hoio se homincm, apparcat → Agnoscat homo se hominem, appareat; si idco venit → si ideo venit; cessarct hominis, ct commendaretur → cessaret hominis, et commendaretur; glor etur I Cor. i, 31). lecte crgo → glorietur (I Cor. I, 31). Recte ergo; nan acceperis → non acceperis; opinio ct faina → opinio et fama; sapienlia → sapientia; agno scat → agnoscat; gloriHcalur → glorificatur; et cum in caelo posuisti Et homo → et eum in cælo posuisti? Et homo; homi. nem → hominem; Dicat Joannes. decrescendo → Dicat Joannes, decrescendo.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.6 (PL 39:1630–1631; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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380.7PL 39:1631

Hoc enim Joannes evangelista dixit de illo: Non erat ille lumen. Injuriam forte fecit Joanni, quia ait, Non erat ille lumen; cum Apostolis dictum sit a Domino, Vos estis lumen mundi? Prætulerunt se Apostoli Joanni? Non faciunt, ne mendacem ipsum Dominum judicent, qui dixit, In natis mulierum nemo exsurrexit major Joanne Baptista. Non utique major statura corporis, sed gratia participatæ sapientiæ, gratia participatæ salutis. Quid sibi ergo vult, Non erat ille lumen, sed ut testimonium perhiberet de lumine? Quare hoc dixit? Novi, inquit, quid dicam, testimonium perhibere de lumine. Erat enim lumen verum distinctum a Joanne, ne prorsus non lumen Joannes, sed ut in comparatione hujus luminis dictum intelligatur, Non erat ille lumen; secundum quod dixit, quia Erat lumen verum. Quomodo discernis hoc verum? Quod illuminat, inquit, omnem hominem venientem in hunc mundum. Si omnem hominem, ergo et Joannem. Sed ut non videamur nos colligere ex verbis quod non est dictum, quamvis consequenter intelligendum, ipse Joannes dicat: Nos omnes de plenitudine ejus accepimus. Erat ergo lumen verum. Joannes lumen illuminatum, Christus lumen illuminans. Nam ut noveris quia lumen erat Joannes, jam perhibeat et illi Dominus testimonium. Perhibuit ipse testimonium Domino suo, testimonium veritatis de Domino suo, quod habebat a Domino suo. Acceperat enim a Domino suo, ut diceret de Domino suo: ut autem ille diceret de servo suo, non acceperat a servo suo: et in se Christus de Joanne, et in Joanne Christus de se. Ipsa ergo veritas perhibeat testimonium, audiamus quia lumen est Joannes. Judaeis dicitur de Joanne, Ille erat lucerna ardens et lucens. Et utique lucerna lumen est, non sicut dies, sed tamen lumen est. Ergo lucerna accenditur ut luceat, et Joannes illuminatus est ut loqueretur. Si ergo Joannes illuminatus est ut loqueretur, agnoscat se lucerna, ne superbiæ vento exstinguatur. Sed forte lumen discipuli, et lucerna Joannes? Dominus enim de Joanne ait, Ille erat lucerna ardens, et lucens: de discipulis autem, Vos estis lumen mundi. Discipulos suos prætulit Joanni? Numquid et fideles illi quos alloquitur Paulus, præponendi sunt Joanni, quibus ait, Fuistis enim aliquando tenebræ, nunc autem lux in Domino? Lux ergo Apostoli, et lux fideles ex peccatoribus justificati, ex infidelibus fideles facti: tamen lucerna non sunt dicti discipuli. Attende, forte dicti, et non alio loco, sed ibi: ut ostenderet quemadmodum eos dixerit lumen; quia non lumen verum, quod illuminat omnem hominem venientem in hunc mundum; sequere verba Evangelii: Vos estis lumen mundi. Non potest civitas abscondi supra montem constituta. Sed de civitate dixit, non de lumine? Sequere adhuc: Neque accendunt lucernam, et ponunt eam sub modio. Tale lumen estis, quale Joannes: lucerna illuminata. Tanquam cujus vox, vel quorum vox praecesserat, Tu illuminabis lucernam meam, Domine; Deus meus, illumina tenebras meas. Quas tenebras in Apostolis? Fuimus et nos aliquando, etc., quomodo illius reprobi et blasphemi, Qui prius fui blasphemus, et persecutor, et injuriosus. Ecce tenebræ, accendatur lucerna: Sed misericordiam consecutus sum. Et ut noveris de ipsis dictum, Neque accendunt lucernam, et ponunt eam sub modio, sed super candelabrum, ut luceat omnibus, qui in domo sunt; statim sequitur, Sic luceat lumen vestrum coram hominibus, ut videant bona opera vestra: sed in humilitate, quia hominem oportet minui. Quomodo autem Deum crescere? Et glorificent Patrem vestrum, qui in cœlis est. Glorificatur Pater, glorificatur Filius: quia Pater glorificat Filium, et Filius glorificat Patrem. Agnoscat se ergo homo humilem, agnoscat excelsum Deum propter se humiliatum, ut homo, qui humiliatus erat in confessione peccati, exaltetur in adeptione justitiæ. Hæc duo; Dominus et Joannes, humilitas et claritas: Deus humilis in claritate, homo humilis in infirmitate; Deus humilis propter hominem, homo humilis propter hominem. Deus enim humilis ut prodesset homini, homo humilis ut non obsit sibi.

For John the evangelist said of him, "He was not the light." Did he perhaps do John an injury by saying, "He was not the light," when the Lord said to the apostles, "You are the light of the world"? Did the apostles put themselves before John? They do not, lest they judge the Lord himself a liar, who said, "Among those born of women no one has arisen greater than John the Baptist." Not greater, certainly, in bodily stature, but in the grace of wisdom shared, the grace of salvation shared. What then does "He was not the light, but came to bear witness to the light" mean? Why did he say this? "I know," he says, "what I am saying: to bear witness to the light." For there was the true light, distinct from John; not that John was not a light at all, but "He was not the light" is to be understood as said in comparison with this light, according to what he said: "There was the true light." How do you tell that this one is true? "Which enlightens," he says, "every man coming into this world." If every man, then John too. But so that we may not seem to be gathering from the words what was not said, though it follows from them, let John himself say: "We have all received from his fullness." He, then, was the true light. John was a light that is lit; Christ the light that lights. And so that you may know that John was a light, let the Lord now bear witness to him in turn. John bore witness to his Lord, the testimony of truth about his Lord, which he had from his Lord. For he had received from his Lord what to say about his Lord; but the Lord had not received from his servant what to say about his servant: Christ in himself spoke of John, and in John Christ spoke of himself. Let the Truth himself, then, bear witness; let us hear that John is a light. It is said to the Jews about John, "He was a burning and shining lamp." And surely a lamp is a light; not like the day, but still a light. So a lamp is lit so that it may shine, and John was enlightened so that he might speak. If, then, John was enlightened so that he might speak, let the lamp know what it is, lest it be blown out by the wind of pride. But perhaps the disciples are light, and John only a lamp? For the Lord says of John, "He was a burning and shining lamp," but of the disciples, "You are the light of the world." Did he put his disciples before John? Are even those faithful whom Paul addresses to be ranked above John, to whom he says, "For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord"? So the apostles are light, and the faithful are light, made righteous out of sinners, made believers out of unbelievers; yet the disciples were not called a lamp. Pay attention: perhaps they were so called, and not in another place but in the very same place, to show in what sense he called them light, that is, not the true light that enlightens every man coming into this world. Follow the words of the gospel: "You are the light of the world. A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden." But was he speaking of a city, not of a light? Follow further: "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a bushel." You are a light such as John was: a lamp that has been lit. As if theirs was the voice, or the voices, that had gone before: "You will light my lamp, O Lord; my God, enlighten my darkness." What darkness was there in the apostles? "For we too were once, etc."; like that of the reprobate and blasphemer: "Who was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and insolent." See the darkness; let the lamp be lit: "But I obtained mercy." And so that you may know that it was said of them, "Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a lampstand, so that it gives light to all who are in the house," there follows at once, "So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works": but in humility, because man must decrease. And how must God increase? "And glorify your Father who is in heaven." The Father is glorified, the Son is glorified: for the Father glorifies the Son, and the Son glorifies the Father. Let man, then, recognize that he is lowly, and that the most high God was humbled for his sake, so that man, who was humbled in confessing his sin, might be exalted in attaining righteousness. These two, the Lord and John: humility and glory; God humble in glory, man humble in weakness; God humble for man's sake, man humble for man's sake. For God was humble to benefit man; man is humble so as not to harm himself.

John 1:8–9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:14–16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 11:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:16 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:35 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 18:28 (17:29 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Titus 3:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 1:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:30 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:1 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John "was not the light" only in comparison with Christ, the true light; like the apostles, he was a lamp that had been lit, and must stay humble so that God is glorified.

  • The opening words "Lumen tamen Joannes participatione sapientiæ" ("Yet John was a light by sharing in wisdom") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR capital; OCR slip; OCR slips; line-break split; stray mark): Lumen tamen Joannes participatione sapientiæ. Hoc enim → Hoc enim; participatne → participatæ; discernis hoc vcrum → discernis hoc verum; perhibeat ct illi → perhibeat et illi; lucerna lumcn est, non sicut dies y sed → lucerna lumen est, non sicut dies, sed; illuminatus cst ut loqueretur. Si ergo Joannes illuminatus est ut loqucretur → illuminatus est ut loqueretur. Si ergo Joannes illuminatus est ut loqueretur; Domi. nus enim → Dominus enim; sed Ibi: → sed ibi:; accendatur lucernaa:Sed → accendatur lucerna: Sed; qui in cœlis eat → qui in cœlis est; excelsum Deum. propter → excelsum Deum propter; justitæ → justitiæ.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.7 (PL 39:1631; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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380.8PL 39:1631–1632

Agnoscamus ergo haec duo et in ipsa differentia passionum. Legimus Joannem passum martyrium pro veritate: numquid pro Christo? Non pro Christo, si non veritas Christus. Non omnino pro ipsius nomine, sed tamen pro ipsa veritate. Neque enim ideo decollatus est Joannes, quia confessus est Christum. Sed monebat temperantiam, monebat justitiam: dicebat, Non tibi licet habere uxorem fratris tui ( Marc. VI, 18). Lex enim quæ hoc jusserat, de illis jusserat qui morerentur sine liberis, ut acciperent fratres uxores fratrum suorum, et resuscitarent semen fratribus suis. Ubi ista causa non erat, nihil nisi libido erat. Hanc libidinem Joannes arguebat, castus incestum: quia et illud quod figurabat, tale est, Illum oportet crescere, me autem minui. Præceptum jam fuerat, ut si quis sine semine moreretur, qui magis propinquus esset, acciperet uxorem ejus, et suscitaret semen fratri suo. Utquid enim hoc Deus præceperat, nisi ut eo modo significaretur semen suscitandum fratris ad fratris nomen? Hoc enim præceptum erat, ut qui inde nasceretur, nomen haberet defuncti. Defunctus est Christus, acceperunt conjugem ejus Apostoli Ecclesiam. Quos de illa genuerunt, non Paulianos, aut Petrianos, sed Christianos nominaverunt. Loquantur ergo hæc duo, ambæ passiones: illum oportet crescere, me autem minui. Ille crevit in ligno, hic est diminutus in ferro. Locutae sunt et passiones hoc mysterium, loquantur et dies. Nascitur Christus, et augentur; nascitur Joannes, et minuuntur. Minuatur ergo honor hominis, augeatur honor Dei; ut honor hominis inveniatur in honore Dei.

Let us recognize these two things, then, also in the very difference of their passions. We read that John suffered martyrdom for the truth: for Christ? Not for Christ, if Christ is not the truth. Not exactly for his name, but nevertheless for the truth itself. For John was not beheaded because he confessed Christ. But he was urging temperance, he was urging justice; he said, "It is not lawful for you to have your brother's wife." For the law which had commanded this had commanded it concerning those who died without children: that brothers should take their brothers' wives and raise up offspring for their brothers. Where that reason did not exist, there was nothing but lust. This lust John rebuked, the chaste man rebuking the incestuous one; for what he figured was of the same kind: "He must increase, but I must decrease." It had already been commanded that if anyone died without offspring, the nearest kinsman should take his wife and raise up offspring for his brother. Why had God commanded this, if not so that in this way it might be signified that offspring would be raised up for the brother under the brother's name? For this was the command: that whoever was born from that union should bear the name of the dead man. Christ died; the apostles took his spouse, the Church. Those whom they begot from her they named not Paulians or Petrians, but Christians. Let these two things, then, these two passions, say it: "He must increase, but I must decrease." The one grew on the wood; the other was diminished by the sword. The passions have spoken this mystery; let the days speak it too. Christ is born, and the days grow longer; John is born, and they grow shorter. Let the honor of man decrease, then, and the honor of God increase, so that the honor of man may be found in the honor of God.

Mark 6:17–18 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 25:5–6 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:30 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:12 (echo, medium confidence) · Acts 11:26 (echo, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John died for the truth by rebuking Herod's marriage to his brother's wife, which the levirate law did not allow; the levirate law itself figures the apostles raising up Christians for the dead Christ; Christ was lifted up on the cross, John cut short by the sword.

  • The opening words "Christus crescit, Joannes minuitur" ("Christ increases, John decreases") are Migne's marginal heading and have been removed; the importer also removed "Passionis et nativitatis differentia" ("The difference of passion and birth").
  • The levirate law is Deut 25:5–6. Herod's marriage to Herodias, his brother's wife, is translated as the preacher describes it.
  • The days lengthen after Christ's birthday (25 December) and shorten after John's (24 June), echoing John 3:30.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's marginal heading; OCR slip; OCR slip; OCR slips): Christus crescit, ■ Joannes minuitur. Agnoscamus ergo haec duo ct in ipsa differentia → Agnoscamus ergo haec duo et in ipsa differentia; pro vcritalc → pro veritate; si non vcritas Christus → si non veritas Christus; Nequo enim → Neque enim; fratri. tui → fratris tui; libido crat → libido erat; Defunctas est Christus, aceeperunt coujugem → Defunctus est Christus, acceperunt conjugem; haec duo. ambae passiones → hæc duo, ambæ passiones; llle crevit → Ille crevit; augeutur; nascitur Joannes, et minuontur → augentur; nascitur Joannes, et minuuntur; honor Dci → honor Dei.

Topics: Martyrdom, Marriage, Divorce and remarriage

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 380.8 (PL 39:1631–1632; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/380-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 381

381.1PL 39:1632

Petri et Pauli apostolorum dies, in quo triumphalem coronam, devicto diabolo, meruerunt, quantum fides Romana testatur, hodiernus est. Quibus solemnis festivitas exhibetur, solemnis etiam sermo reddatur. Laudes audiant a nobis, preces fundant pro nobis. Sicut traditione patrum cognitum memoria retinetur, non uno die passi sunt per coeli spatia decurrente. Natalitio ergo Petri passus est Paulus, non quo ex utero matris in numerum fusus est hominum, sed quo ex vinculo carnis in lucem natus est Angelorum; ac per hoc ita singuli dies dati sunt duobus, ut nunc unus celebretur ambobus. Magnum hoc mihi signum videtur esse concordiæ: coapostolo suo novissimus primo, qui ad eumdem diem vocatus advenit, ad eumdem diem coronatus occurrit. Electus est ille ante Domini passionem, iste post ascensionem. Ordine temporis impares, aeternitate felicitatis æquales: ille ex piscatore, iste ex persecutore. In illo infirma mundi electa sunt, ut confundantur fortia ( I Cor. I, 27): in isto abundavit peccatum, ut superabundaret gratia ( Rom. v, 20). In utroque magna Dei gratia atque ejus gloria claruit, qui eorum fecit merita, non invenit. Quid enim aliud demonstrare dignatus est, qui ad regnum primo vocare voluit piscatores, postea vocaturus imperatores, nisi ut qui gloriatur, in Domino gloriemur ( I Cor. i, 31)? Nam utique nobilium, doctorum, potentum non salutem contempsit, quibus ignobiles, imperitos infirmosque præposuit. Sed nisi prius eligeretur vilitas infirmorum, non sanaretur inflatio superborum. Si prius a Christo divites vocarentur, putarent et dicerent non in se electam nisi opulentiam, facundiam, eloquentiæ doctrinam, scientiæ splendorem, nobilitatem, generositatem, tranquillitatem, regalem potestatem; atque ita temporalibus et sæcularibus felicitatibus tumidi, tanquam ipsi prius Christo conferrent quod essent, ut eis ille videretur reddere, non donare, quod futuri essent gratia Dei, nec intelligerent, nec tenerent. Quanto ergo nunc melius, quanto ordinatius, prius erexit de terra inopem, et de stercore exaltavit pauperem, ut collocaret eum cum potentibus populi sui; ut munus intelligentiæ atque doctrinæ non solum ex Deo esset, sed etiam ut ex Deo esse appareret? Cum quanta itaque laetitia et quanta Dei gloria contuemur ab animo piscatoris contemni opes imperatoris? fundi preces imperatoris ad Memoriam piscatoris? ut nec ille ex eo quod non habuit, jaceret; nec iste ex eo quod habuit, superbiret. Jamvero illud quod Paulum ex persecutore suo praedicatorem suum Christus operatus est, quid valeat ad salutem hominum, ne quisquam magnarum sibi conscius iniquitatum de misericordia Dei debeat desperare, ipse potius apostolus eloquatur. Humanus, inquit, sermo et omni acceptione dignus, quia Christus Jesus venit in hunc mundum peccatores salvos facere, quorum primus ego sum. Sed ideo misericordiam consecutus sum, ut in me primo ostenderet Christus Jesus omnem longanimitatem, ad informationem eorum qui credituri sunt illi in vitam æternam. Quis enim sub manu omnipotentis medici de salute desperet tanto informatus exemplo, considerans evangelizantem fidem quam aliquando vastabat, non solum evasisse poenam persecutoris, verum etiam coronam meruisse doctoris, et cujus sanguinem in ejus membris cupiebat sæviendo fundere, pro ejus nomine suum sanguinem credendo fudisse? Habet ergo Roma caput gentium, duo lumina gentium ab illo accensa, qui illuminat omnem hominem venientem in hunc mundum: unum, in quo Deus abjectam exaltavit humilitatem; alterum, in quo damnandam sanavit iniquitatem. In illo discamus non superbire; in isto, non desperare. Quam breviter magna nobis exempla praemissa sunt, quam salubria; quæ semper commemoremus, et in eorum laude lumen verum magnificemus. Nemo ergo se de hujus saeculi celsitudine extollat: Petrus piscator fuit. Nemo iniquitatem propriam cogitando misericordiam Dei defugiat: Paulus persecutor fuit. Ille dicit, Factus est Dominus refugium pauperum: iste dicit, Doceam iniquos vias tuas, et impii ad te convertentur.

Today is the day of the apostles Peter and Paul, on which, the devil defeated, they merited the crown of triumph, as the faith of Rome bears witness. Since a solemn feast is kept for them, let a solemn sermon be given as well. Let them hear praises from us; let them pour out prayers for us. As is kept in memory, known from the tradition of the fathers, they did not suffer on one and the same day as it runs its course through the sky. Paul suffered on Peter's birthday, not the day on which he came from his mother's womb into the number of men, but the day on which he was born from the bond of the flesh into the light of the angels; and so the two separate days were given to the two of them in such a way that now one is celebrated for both. This seems to me a great sign of concord: the last of the apostles came to the first, his fellow apostle; called to the same day, he arrived, and crowned on the same day, he met him. The one was chosen before the Lord's passion, the other after the ascension; unequal in the order of time, equal in the eternity of happiness; the one from a fisherman, the other from a persecutor. In the one the weak things of the world were chosen, to put the strong to shame; in the other sin abounded, so that grace might superabound. In both the great grace of God shone out, and his glory, who made their merits and did not find them. For what else did he mean to show, who chose to call fishermen first to the kingdom and only afterwards emperors, if not that whoever glories should glory in the Lord? For he certainly did not despise the salvation of the noble, the learned, and the powerful, though he put the obscure, the unlearned, and the weak before them. But unless the lowliness of the weak had been chosen first, the swelling of the proud would not have been healed. If the rich had been called first by Christ, they would have thought and said that nothing had been chosen in them but their wealth, eloquence, learning in rhetoric, splendor of knowledge, nobility, high birth, ease, and royal power; and so, swollen with temporal and worldly prosperity, as though they had first brought to Christ what they were, so that he would seem to be repaying rather than giving, they would neither understand nor hold that what they would become is by the grace of God. How much better, then, and how much more orderly, that he first raised the needy from the earth and lifted the poor from the dunghill, to set him with the princes of his people; so that the gift of understanding and learning should not only be from God but should also be seen to be from God! With what joy, then, and with what glory to God do we see the wealth of an emperor despised by the mind of a fisherman, and the prayers of an emperor poured out at the shrine of a fisherman, so that neither should the one be cast down by what he did not have, nor the other be proud of what he had! Now as for what Christ worked in making Paul his preacher out of his persecutor, and how much that avails for human salvation, so that no one conscious of great iniquities need despair of God's mercy, let the apostle himself rather tell it. "It is a human saying," he says, "and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into this world to save sinners, of whom I am the first. But I obtained mercy for this reason, that in me first Christ Jesus might display all his patience, as a pattern for those who would believe in him for eternal life." For who, under the hand of the almighty physician, will despair of salvation when taught by so great an example, considering that the man who now preaches the faith he once ravaged not only escaped the punishment of a persecutor but merited the crown of a teacher, and that he who in his rage longed to shed Christ's blood in his members poured out his own blood for his name by believing? Rome, then, the head of the nations, has two lights of the nations, lit by him who enlightens every man coming into this world: one in whom God exalted a despised lowliness, the other in whom he healed a damnable iniquity. In the one let us learn not to be proud, in the other not to despair. How briefly, and how wholesomely, great examples have been set before us! Let us always recall them, and in their praise magnify the true light. Let no one, then, exalt himself because of the heights of this world: Peter was a fisherman. Let no one, thinking of his own iniquity, flee from the mercy of God: Paul was a persecutor. The one says, "The Lord has become a refuge for the poor"; the other says, "I will teach the wicked your ways, and the ungodly will be converted to you."

1 Cor 1:27 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:20 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 113:7–8 (112:7-Ps Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 1:15–16 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 1:23 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 9:9 (9:10 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 51:13 (50:15 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: On the feast of Peter and Paul, who suffered on the same date in Rome: Peter the fisherman teaches the proud not to boast, Paul the persecutor teaches sinners not to despair; God chose the lowly first so that grace might be seen as grace.

  • This sermon is printed by the Maurists among the doubtful sermons; its authorship by Augustine is doubted.
  • The tradition mentioned is that Paul suffered on the anniversary of Peter's martyrdom, so that the two share one feast.
  • "Shrine" renders Memoria, a martyr's tomb-shrine.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; joined words; line-break split; spacing; stray mark): triumphaletn → triumphalem; exhihetur → exhibetur; cognilum memoria re - tinetur → cognitum memoria retinetur; fusus esthominum → fusus est hominum; milii signum videtur esse concordix → mihi signum videtur esse concordiæ; aequaies → æquales; fecit mcrita → fecit merita; Quid enniI aliud → Quid enim aliud; nisi ut • qui gloriatur → nisi ut qui gloriatur; non in se cleclam → non in se electam; ut cis ille → ut eis ille; appareret?Cum → appareret? Cum; ex per. secutore → ex persecutore; bominum → hominum; eluquatur → eloquatur; CArisius → Christus; mise' ricordiam → misericordiam; constderans → considerans; eujus sanguinem in cjus membris → cujus sanguinem in ejus membris; piscatur fuit → piscator fuit.

Topics: Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Serm. 381.1 (PL 39:1632; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/augustine-sermones/381-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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