Letters 231.1–234.8

Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).

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Chapter 231

231.1CSEL 57:504

Quod acceperim libenter litteras tuas, mea rescripta indicio esse noluisti. ecce rescribo et tamen rescriptis hoc indicare non possum uel istis uel quibuslibet aliis, siue breuiter siue prolixissime scribam; neque enim aut paucis aut multis uerbis indicari potest, quod indicari uerbis non potest. et ego quidem parum eloquor, etsi multum loquor; sed nulli eloquenti omnino concesserim, ut qualicumque et quantacumque epistula sua affectum explicet, quem fecit in me tua, quod non possum ego, etiam si eum possit ita in animo meo uidere sicut ego. restat ergo sic tibi indicare, quod scire uoluisti, ut in uerbis meis, et quod non indicant. sentias. quid igitur dicam nisi delectatum me esse litteris tuis ualde ualde? repetitio uerbi huius non est repetitio sed quasi perpetua dictio; quia enim fieri non posset, ut semper diceretur, ideo factum est, ut saltem repeteretur: sic enim fortasse dici potest, quod dici non potest.

You wished my reply to be the evidence that I received your letter gladly. Here I am replying, and yet I cannot show this by my reply, whether this one or any other, whether I write briefly or at great length; for what cannot be shown in words cannot be shown in few words or in many. I indeed speak little eloquently even when I speak much; but I would grant to no eloquent man at all that by any letter, of whatever kind or length, he could express the feeling your letter produced in me, which I cannot do, even if he could see it in my mind as I do. It remains, then, to show you what you wished to know in such a way that in my words you may feel even what they do not show. What, then, shall I say, except that I was delighted with your letter, very, very much? The repetition of this word is not repetition but as it were a perpetual saying; because it could not be said forever, it was at least repeated: for perhaps in this way what cannot be said can be said.

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Summary: Augustine replies to Darius that words cannot express how much his letter delighted him.

  • To Darius (429).

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.1 (CSEL 57:504; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-1).

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231.2CSEL 57:504–505

Hic si quaerat aliquis, quid me tandem in tuis tam ualde litteris delectauerit, utrum eloquium, respondebo: Non; et ille forsitan respondebit: Ergo laudes tuae; sed de his quoque respondebo: Non nec ideo, quia non sunt ista in illa epistula: nam et eloquium ibi tantum est, ut et optimo te natum ingenio et talibus disciplinis satis eruditum praeclarissime luceat, et prorsus plena est meis laudibus. ergone, ait quispiam, non te ista delectant? immo uero; neque enim mihi, ut ait quidam, cornea fibra est, ut haec non sentiam uel sine delectatione sentiam. delectant et ista; sed ad illud, quo me ualde dixi esse delectatum, quid sunt ista? nam eloquium tuum me delectat, quoniam grauiter suaue est uel suauiter graue: meis autem laudibus cum profecto nec omnibus delecter nec ab omnibus sed eis, qualibus me dignum esse arbitratus es. et ab eis. qualis es, id est qui propter Christum diligunt seruos eius. etiam laudibus meis me delectatum in litteris tuis negare non possum.

If someone here should ask what it was in your letter that delighted me so very much, whether its eloquence, I will answer: No. And he may answer: Then your praises. But to these too I will answer: No. And not because these are not in that letter: for there is so much eloquence there that it shines out most brilliantly that you were born with the finest talent and are well educated in such studies, and it is altogether full of my praises. “So,” someone says, “these things do not delight you?” Indeed they do; for my heart is not, as someone says, made of horn, so that I do not feel them or feel them without delight. These things too delight me; but compared with what I said delighted me very much, what are they? For your eloquence delights me because it is gravely sweet or sweetly grave. As for my praises, although I am certainly not delighted by all of them nor by everyone's, but by such as you thought me worthy of and from such men as you are, that is, those who love Christ's servants for Christ's sake, I cannot deny that I was delighted even by my praises in your letter.

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Summary: Augustine says that he did enjoy Darius's eloquence and praise, but neither was the chief cause of his delight.

  • “Made of horn”: Persius, Sat. 1.47.

Extrabiblical texts: Persius, Sat. 1.47 (Persius, Satires; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.2 (CSEL 57:504–505; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-2).

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231.3CSEL 57:505–506

Viderint graues et periti uiri, quid de illo Themistocle sentiant, si tamen hominis nomen uerum recolo, qui cum in epulis, quod clari et eruditi Graeciae facere solebant, canere fidibus recusasset et ob hoc indoctior haberetur totumque illud iucunditatis genus aspernatus esset, dictum illi est: Quid ergo audire te delectat? ad quod ille respondisse fertur: Laudes meas. uiderint ergo, quo fine qua intentione illud dixisse crediderint uel ipse qua dixerit. erat enim secundum hoc saeculum uir magnificus. nam etiam cum ei dictum fuisset: Quid igitur nosti? Rem publicam, inquit, ex parua magnam facere. ego autem, quod ait Ennius: (Omnes mortales sese laudari exoptant), partim puto adprobandum partim cauendum. ut enim appetenda est ueritas, quae procul dubio est, etiam si non laudetur, sola laudabilis. sic ea, quae facile subrepit, uanitas in hominum laude fugienda est: haec est autem, cum uel ipsa bona. quae laudatione digna sunt, non putantur habenda, nisi laudetur ab hominibus homo. uel ea quoque uult in se multum quisque laudari, quae aut exigua laude aut etiam uituperatione digniora sunt. unde Horatius Ennio uigilantior ait: Laudis amore tumes? sunt certa piacula, quae te ter pure lecto poterunt recreare libello.

Let grave and learned men decide what they think of that Themistocles, if I recall the man's name correctly, who, when at a banquet he refused to play the lyre, as the famous and learned men of Greece used to do, and was therefore thought rather uncultured, and had scorned that whole kind of pleasure, was asked: “What, then, do you enjoy hearing?” To which he is said to have answered: “My own praises.” Let them decide, then, with what aim and intention they believe he said it, or with what intention he did say it. For he was, by the standards of this world, a magnificent man; for when he had also been asked, “What, then, do you know?” he said, “How to make a small state great.” But as for what Ennius says, “All mortals long to be praised,” I think it partly to be approved and partly to be guarded against. For as truth is to be sought, which beyond doubt is alone praiseworthy even if it is not praised, so the vanity that easily creeps in with human praise is to be shunned. And this is it: when even the good things that are worthy of praise are not thought worth having unless a man is praised by men; or when each one wants to be much praised for things in himself that deserve little praise or even blame. Hence Horace, more watchful than Ennius, says: “Do you swell with love of praise? There are sure remedies that can restore you if you read the little book three times with purity.”

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Summary: Augustine discusses the love of praise, citing Themistocles, Ennius, and Horace, and distinguishes seeking truth from vanity in human praise.

  • Themistocles: Cicero, Pro Archia 20 and Tusc. 1.2.4. Ennius, fragment (source uncertain). Horace, Ep. 1.1.36–37.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR misread): cam uel → cum uel.

Extrabiblical texts: Cicero, Arch. 20 (Cicero; allusion); Ennius (Ennius; quotation); Horace, Ep. 1.1.36–37 (Horace; quotation)

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.3 (CSEL 57:505–506; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-3).

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231.4CSEL 57:506–507

Ita tumorem de amore laudis humanae uelut serpentis morsum medicinalibus uerbis quasi excantandum putauit. docuit itaque nos per apostolum suum magister bonus neque propterea nos recte uiuere et recte facere, ut laudemur ab hominibus, id est finem recti nostri non in hominum laudibus ponere et tamen propter ipsos homines quaerere laudes hominum. etenim cum laudantur boni, non laudatis sed laudantibus prodest. nam illis, quantum ad ipsos adtinet, quod boni sunt, sufficit; sed eis, quibus expedit imitari bonos, gratulandum est, cum ab eis laudantur boni, quoniam sic indicant eos sibi placere, quos ueraciter laudant. dicit ergo apostolus quodam loco: Si hominibus placerem, Christi seruus non essem, et idem dicit alio loco: Placete omnibus per omnia, sicut et ego omnibus per omnia placeo, sed adiungens causam: Non quaerens, quod mihi utile est. sed quod multis, ut salui fiant. ecce, quod quaerebat in laude hominum, ubi etiam dicebat: De cetero. fratres, quaecumque sunt uera, quaecumque pudica, quaecumque casta, quaecumque sancta, quaecumque carissima, quaecumque bonae famae. si qua uirtus. si qua laus, haec cogitate; quae didicistis et accepistis et audistis et uidistis in me, haec agite et deus pacis erit uobiscum. cetera igitur, quae supra commemorauit. uirtutis nomine amplexus est dicens si qua uirtus; illud autem, quod subiecit quaecumque bonae famae, alio uno uerbo congruo prosecutus est dicendo si qua laus. quod itaque ait: Si hominibus placerem, Christi seruus non essem, sic utique accipiendum est, tamquam dixerit: Si bona. quae facio, fine laudis humanae facerem, laudis amore tumescerem,. uolebat ergo apostolus placere omnibus et eis placere gaudebat, non quorum laudibus tumescebat in se ipso, sed quos laudatus aedificabat in Christo. cur ergo me non delectet laudari abs te, cum et uir bonus sis, ne me fallas, et ea laudes, quae amas et quae amare utile ac salubre est, etiam si non sint in me? neque hoc tibi tantum sed etiam mihi prodest. si enim non sunt in me, salubriter erubesco atque, ut sint, inardesco. ac per hoc, quae agnosco mea in laude tua, gaudeo me habere et abs te illa ac me ipsum diligi propter illa: quae autem non agnosco, non solum, ut ipse habeam, desidero consequi uerum etiam, ne semper in mea laude fallantur, qui me sinceriter diligunt.

So he thought that the swelling from the love of human praise should be charmed away with healing words, like a serpent's bite. Accordingly the good Teacher taught us through his apostle that we should not live rightly and act rightly in order to be praised by men, that is, should not place the goal of our right conduct in men's praises, and yet should seek men's praise for the sake of those men themselves. For when the good are praised, it profits not those praised but those who praise. For the good, as far as they themselves are concerned, it is enough that they are good; but those for whom it is profitable to imitate the good are to be congratulated when they praise the good, since they thereby show that those whom they truly praise please them. So the apostle says in one place, “If I were pleasing men, I would not be a servant of Christ”; and the same man says in another place, “Please all in all things, as I also please all in all things,” but adding the reason: “not seeking what is profitable to me, but to many, that they may be saved.” See what he sought in the praise of men, where he also said: “Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is modest, whatever is chaste, whatever is holy, whatever is most lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any virtue, if there is any praise, think on these things. What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do these things, and the God of peace will be with you.” The other things he listed above he embraced under the name of virtue, saying “if there is any virtue”; but what he added, “whatever is of good repute,” he followed with another single fitting word, saying “if there is any praise.” So his saying, “If I were pleasing men, I would not be a servant of Christ,” must surely be taken as if he had said: “If I did the good things I do with human praise as their goal, I would be swelling with love of praise.” The apostle, then, wished to please all and rejoiced to please them, not those by whose praises he swelled in himself, but those whom, being praised, he built up in Christ. Why, then, should I not be delighted to be praised by you, since you are both a good man, so as not to deceive me, and you praise things that you love and that it is useful and wholesome to love, even if they are not in me? And this profits not only you but me too. For if they are not in me, I blush wholesomely and burn with desire that they may be. And so, the things I recognize as mine in your praise, I rejoice to have, and that they and I for their sake are loved by you; but the things I do not recognize, I long to attain, not only so that I may have them, but also so that those who love me sincerely may not always be deceived in praising me.

Gal 1:10 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:33 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 4:8–9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 6:1 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains, from Paul, that praise should be sought not for oneself but for the good of those who praise, and says Darius's praise spurs him to become what he is praised for.

  • Quotations: Gal 1:10; 1 Cor 10:33 (the first clause adapted); Phil 4:8–9. Allusion: Matt 6:1.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray mark): <Si bona. → Si bona..

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.4 (CSEL 57:506–507; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-4).

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231.5CSEL 57:507–508

Ecce quam multa dixi et, quid sit illud, quod me longe amplius eloquio tuo, longe amplius laudibus meis in tuis litteris delectauit, non adhuc dixi. quid autem putas esse, o bone homo. nisi quod te talem uirum etiam non uisum feci amicum, si tamen non uisum dicere debeo, cuius non corpus sed animum in ipsis tuis litteris uidi. ubi de te non sicut antea fratribus meis sed mihi credidi? quis enim esses, iam quidem acceperam, sed qualis erga me esses, nondum tenebam. ex hac amicitia tua etiam laudes meas, quae me quo fine delectent. satis dixi, multo uberius ecclesiae Christi non dubito profuturas. quando quidem etiam labores meos in defensione euangelii aduersus reliquias impiorum daemonicolarum sic habes, sic legis, sic amas, sic praedicas, ut in eis tanto fiam notior, quanto es ipse nobilior; eos enim latentes inlustris inlustras clarusque declaras et, ubi prodesse posse perspicies, ignorari omnino non sines. si, unde id sciam, quaeris, talis mihi apparuisti in litteris tuis. hinc iam uide, quantum me illae litterae delectare potuerint, si bene de me existimans cogitas, quantum me Christi lucra delectent. iam uero quod te ipsum, qui, ut scribis, a parentibus. ab auis et postrema usque gentis prole Christi iura percipere potuisti. tamen aduersus gentiles ritus ut numquam alias eisdem laboribus meis adiutum esse significas, parumne cogito, quantum boni aliis et quam multis. quam claris et quam facile quamque salubriter per illos ceteris, quibus talia conueniunt, possint scripta nostra te commendante ac disseminante conferre? aut hoc cogitans possumne paruorum uel mediocrium gaudiorum iucunditate perfundi?

See how much I have said, and I have not yet said what it was that delighted me in your letter far more than your eloquence, far more than my praises. What do you think it is, good man, except that I have made a man such as you my friend even without seeing you, if indeed I should say “without seeing” one whose mind, not body, I saw in your very letter, where I believed about you not my brothers, as before, but myself? For who you were I had already heard, but what you were toward me I did not yet know. From this friendship of yours I have no doubt that even my praises, with what aim they delight me I have said enough, will profit the Church of Christ much more richly, since you so possess, so read, so love and so commend my labors in defense of the gospel against the remnants of the impious demon-worshipers, that I become the better known in them the nobler you yourself are; for, illustrious and renowned as you are, you make them illustrious and renowned where they were hidden, and where you see they can be of use you will not let them be wholly unknown. If you ask how I know this, so you appeared to me in your letter. From this see how much that letter could delight me, if, thinking well of me, you consider how much the gains of Christ delight me. And now, when you tell me that you yourself, who, as you write, could receive the laws of Christ from your parents, from your grandfathers, and down to the latest offspring of your family, have nevertheless been helped against pagan rites by these same labors of mine as never before, do I think it a small thing how much good our writings, commended and spread by you, may bring to others, and to how many, how distinguished, how easily and how wholesomely, and through them to the rest whom such things suit? Or, thinking of this, can I be filled with the pleasure of small or middling joys?

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Summary: Augustine says the chief delight of Darius's letter was gaining him as a friend, whose commendation will spread his writings against paganism.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR misread): m tuis litteris → in tuis litteris.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.5 (CSEL 57:507–508; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-5).

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231.6CSEL 57:508–510

Quia igitur non potui uerbis explicare, quantam delectationem de tuis litteris ceperim, unde me delectauerint, dixi. iam quod nequiui satis dicere, id est quantum delectauerint, tibi coniciendum relinquo. sume itaque, mi fili. sume, uir bone et non in superficie sed Christiana caritate Christiane. sume, inquam, etiam libros. quos desiderasti, confessionum mearum: ibi me inspice, ne me laudes ultra, quam sum, ibi non aliis de me crede sed mihi, ibi me adtende et uide, quid fuerim in me ipso per me ipsum. et si quid in me tibi placuerit, lauda ibi mecum. quem laudari uolui de me, neque enim me, quoniam ipse fecit nos et non ipsi nos; nos autem perdideramus nos, sed, qui fecit, refecit. cum autem ibi me inueneris, ora pro me, ne deficiam, sed perficiar; ora, fili, ora. sentio, quid dicam, scio, quid petam; non tibi uideatur indignum et quasi ultra merita tua; fraudabis me magno adiutorio, si non feceris. non solum tu sed etiam omnes, qui me ex ore tuo dilexerint, orate pro me. hoc eis me petiuisse indica aut, si multum nobis tribuitis, iussisse nos existimate, quod petimus; et tamen date petentibus uel obtemperate iubentibus. orate pro nobis. lege litteras dei et inuenies ipsos arietes nostros apostolos petisse hoc a filiis suis siue praecepisse auditoribus suis. ego certe, quoniam hoc a me petisti pro te, quantum faciam, uidet, qui exaudiat, qui uidebat, quia et ante faciebam; sed redde etiam in hac re dilectionis uicem. praepositi uestri sumus, grex dei estis; considerate et uidete pericula nostra maiora esse quam uestra et orate pro nobis. hoc enim et nobis conducit et uobis, ut bonam rationem de nobis reddamus pastorum principi et omnium nostrum capiti pariterque euadamus huius mundi periculosiores blanditias quam molestias. nisi cum pax eius ad hoc proficit, quod apostolus orare nos monuit, id est ut quietam uitam et tranquillam agamus in omni pietate et caritate. si enim desit pietas et caritas, quid est ab illis et a ceteris mundi malis tranquillitas et quies nisi luxuriae perditionisque materies siue inuitamentum siue adiumentum? ut ergo habeamus quietam et tranquillam uitam in omni pietate et caritate. quod oro pro nobis, orate pro nobis, ubicumque estis, ubicumque sumus; nusquam enim non est, cuius sumus.

Since, then, I could not explain in words how great a delight I took from your letter, I have said what delighted me in it. What I could not say adequately, that is, how much it delighted me, I leave you to guess. Take, then, my son, take, good man, and Christian not on the surface but in Christian love, take, I say, also the books of my Confessions that you wanted. There look at me, so that you may not praise me beyond what I am; there believe not others about me but me; there pay attention to me and see what I was in myself, through myself. And if anything in me pleases you, praise there with me him whom I wished to be praised for me, and not me; for he made us and not we ourselves; and we had ruined ourselves, but he who made us remade us. And when you find me there, pray for me, that I may not fail but be made perfect; pray, my son, pray. I feel what I am saying; I know what I am asking. Let it not seem unworthy of you and as if beyond your merits; you will cheat me of a great help if you do not do it. Not only you, but all who have come to love me from your mouth, pray for me. Tell them that I asked this, or, if you attribute much to us, consider that we commanded what we ask; and yet grant it to us asking, or obey us commanding. Pray for us. Read the letters of God, and you will find that our very rams, the apostles, asked this of their sons or commanded it of their hearers. For my part, since you asked this of me for yourself, how much I do it he sees who hears, who saw that I was doing it even before; but return love's exchange in this matter too. We are your leaders; you are God's flock. Consider and see that our dangers are greater than yours, and pray for us. For this benefits both us and you, that we may render a good account of ourselves to the chief of shepherds and head of us all, and may likewise escape the flatteries of this world, more dangerous than its troubles, unless its peace serves the end for which the apostle bade us pray, that is, that we may lead a quiet and peaceful life in all godliness and love. For if godliness and love are lacking, what is tranquillity and quiet from those troubles and the other evils of the world but the material, or the enticement, or the aid of luxury and perdition? So that we may have a quiet and peaceful life in all godliness and love, which I pray for you, pray for us, wherever you are, wherever we are; for there is nowhere that he is not whose we are.

Ps 100:3 (99:3 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 13:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Pet 5:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 2:2 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine sends Darius the Confessions, telling him to see there what he really was and to praise God, and begs his prayers.

  • Allusions: Ps 100:3 (LXX 99:3); Heb 13:17; 1 Pet 5:4; 1 Tim 2:2 (Old Latin “love” for “dignity”). “Rams”: the apostles as leaders of the flock.

Topics: Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.6 (CSEL 57:508–510; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-6).

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231.7CSEL 57:510–511

Misi et alios libros, quos non petisti, ne hoc tantum modo facerem, quod petisti: de fide rerum, quae non uidentur, de patientia, de continentia, de prouidentia et unum grandem de fide et spe et caritate. hos omnes si, dum es intra Africam. legeris, iudicium tuum mitte de illis, aut mitte nobis aut, quod nobis a domino sene Aurelio mittatur, ibi dimitte. quamquam et, ubicumque fueris, speramus inde litteras tuas et hinc tu, dum possumus, nostras. suscepi gratissime, quae misisti, ubi et salutem meam quamuis corporalem, quoniam uis me utique sine impedimento malae ualitudinis deo uacare, et bibliothecam nostram, ut sit, unde libri uel parentur uel reparentur, adiuuare dignatus es. rependat tibi dominus et hic et in futuro saeculo bona, quae talibus, qualem te esse uoluit, praeparauit. pignus pacis apud te depositum nostrumque utrique dulcissimum sicut ante a me salutari ita nunc resalutari peto.

I have also sent other books, which you did not ask for, so as not to do only what you asked: On Faith in Things Not Seen, On Patience, On Continence, On Providence, and one large one On Faith, Hope and Love. If you read all of these while you are in Africa, send me your judgment on them; either send it to us, or leave it there to be sent to us by the aged lord Aurelius. Though wherever you may be, we hope for your letters from there, and you for ours from here, while we can. I received most gratefully what you sent, by which you deigned to help both my health, bodily though it is, since you surely want me to be free for God without the hindrance of ill health, and our library, so that there may be means to provide or restore books. May the Lord repay you both here and in the world to come with the good things he has prepared for such as he willed you to be. I ask you to greet again for me the pledge of peace deposited with you, most dear to us both, as I greeted it before.

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Summary: Augustine sends Darius several other works, asks for his judgment, and thanks him for gifts for his health and library.

  • On Providence is not otherwise known as a separate work of Augustine; its identity is uncertain.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 231.7 (CSEL 57:510–511; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-231-7).

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Chapter 232

232.1CSEL 57:511

Si forte illi, qui inter uos catholici Christiani sunt, talia mihi scripta miserunt, hoc tantum miror, quod non suo potius quam ordinis nomine. si autem re uera omnes aut prope omnes ordinis uiri ad me dignati estis litteras dare, miror, quod patri et in domino salutem scripsistis, quorum mihi superstitiosus cultus idolorum, contra quae idola facilius templa uestra quam corda clauduntur uel potius quae idola non magis in templis quam in uestris cordibus includuntur, cum magno est dolore notissimus, nisi forte iam de salute ipsa, quae in domino est, per quam me salutare uoluistis, tandem prudenti consideratione cogitatis. nam si non ita est, quaeso uos, quid laesi, quid offendi beniuolentiam uestram, ut me titulo epistulae uestrae inridendum potius quam honorandum esse putaretis, domini praedicabiles et dilectissimi fratres?

If perhaps those among you who are Catholic Christians sent me such a letter, I only wonder that they did so not in their own name rather than in the name of the council. But if truly all or almost all the men of the council have deigned to write to me, I wonder that you wrote “to father” and “greeting in the Lord,” since your superstitious worship of idols is very well known to me, to my great grief, idols against which your temples are more easily shut than your hearts, or rather which are shut up not more in your temples than in your hearts; unless perhaps you are at last thinking with prudent consideration of that very salvation which is in the Lord, by which you wished to greet me. For if it is not so, I ask you, how have I hurt, how have I offended your goodwill, that you thought I should be mocked rather than honored by the heading of your letter, my praiseworthy lords and dearly beloved brothers?

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Summary: Augustine asks the pagan council of Madaura why they greeted him “in the Lord” while still worshiping idols, unless they mean to mock him.

  • To the council (ordo) of Madaura, Augustine's own school town. The play is on salus (“greeting” and “salvation”).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR misread): querum mihi → quorum mihi.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.1 (CSEL 57:511; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-1).

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232.2CSEL 57:511–512

Quod enim scripsistis: Patri Augustino in domino aeternam salutem, cum legerem, tanta spe subito erectus sum, ut crederem uos ad ipsum dominum et ad ipsam aeternam salutem aut iam esse conuersos aut per nostrum ministerium desiderare conuerti. sed ubi legi cetera, refriguit animus meus; quaesiui tamen ab epistulae perlatore, utrum iam uel essetis Christiani uel esse cuperetis. cuius responsione posteaquam comperi nequaquam uos esse mutatos, grauius dolui, quod Christi nomen, cui iam totum orbem subiectum esse conspicitis, non solum a uobis repellendum sed etiam in nobis inridendum esse credidistis. non enim potui cogitare alterum dominum, secundum quem posset episcopus pater a uobis uocari, praeter dominum Christum et, si esset hinc aliqua de interpretatione uestrae sententiae dubitatio, subscriptione epistulae tolleretur, ubi aperte posuistis: Optamus te, domine, in deo et Christo eius per multos annos semper in clero tuo gaudere. quibus omnibus perlectis atque discussis quid aliud mihi occurrere potuit aut cuilibet homini potest nisi aut ueridico aut fallaci scribentium animo haec esse conscripta? sed si ueridico animo ista scribitis, quis uobis ad hanc ueritatem interclusit uiam? quis aspera dumeta substrauit? quis rupium praerupta inimicus opposuit? postremo quis basilicae ianuam ingredi cupientibus clausit, ut in eodem domino, per quem nos salutatis, eandem salutem nobiscum habere nolitis? si autem fallaciter atque inridenter haec scribitis, itane tandem mihi negotia uestra curanda inponitis, ut nomen eius, per quem aliquid possum, audeatis non ueneratione debita adtollere sed insultatione adulatoria uentilare?

For when I read what you wrote, “To father Augustine, eternal salvation in the Lord,” I was suddenly raised to such hope that I believed you had either already turned to the Lord himself and to that eternal salvation, or desired to be turned through our ministry. But when I read the rest, my mind grew cold. I asked the bearer of the letter, however, whether you were already Christians or wished to be. After I learned from his answer that you were in no way changed, I grieved the more deeply that you thought the name of Christ, to whom you see the whole world now subject, should not only be rejected by you but also mocked in us. For I could not think of any other lord according to whom a bishop could be called father by you except the Lord Christ; and if there were any doubt about the interpretation of your meaning here, it would be removed by the closing of the letter, where you plainly put: “We wish that you, lord, may always rejoice in God and his Christ for many years among your clergy.” When all this was read and examined, what else could occur to me, or can occur to anyone, but that these things were written either with a truthful or with a deceitful mind? But if you write these things with a truthful mind, who has barred your way to this truth? Who has strewn rough thorns in it? What enemy has set the steep rocks in your path? Finally, who has shut the door of the church to you who wish to enter, so that you will not have the same salvation with us in the same Lord through whom you greet us? But if you write these things deceitfully and mockingly, do you then lay your business on me to look after, and at the same time dare, not to exalt with due veneration the name of him through whom I can do anything, but to toss it about with flattering insult?

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Summary: Augustine says the Madaurans' Christian greeting and closing must be either sincere, in which case nothing bars them from the Church, or mockery of Christ's name.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR misread): Tatri Augustino → Patri Augustino.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.2 (CSEL 57:511–512; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-2).

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232.3CSEL 57:512–514

Sciatis me, carissimi, cum ineffabili pro uobis tremore cordis haec dicere; noui enim, quanto grauiorem et perniciosiorem causam sitis habituri apud deum. si frustra uobis haec dixero. omnia, quae praeteritis temporibus erga humanum genus maiores nostri gesta esse meminerunt nobisque tradiderunt, omnia etiam, quae nos uidemus et posteris tradimus, quae tamen pertinent ad ueram religionem quaerendam et tenendam, diuina scriptura non tacuit, sed ita omnino cuncta transeunt, ut transitura esse praedicta sunt. uidetis certe populum Iudaeorum auulsum a sedibus suis per omnes fere terras disseminatum atque diffusum; et origo eiusdem populi et incrementa et regni amissio et per cuncta dispersio sicut praedicta, ita facta sunt. uidetis certe ex ipso populo uerbum dei legemque prodeuntem per Christum, qui ex illis mirabiliter natus est, omnium gentium fidem occupasse atque tenuisse; ita haec omnia praenuntiata legimus, ut uidemus. uidetis certe multos praecisos a radice Christianae societatis, quae per sedes apostolorum et successiones episcoporum certa per orbem propagatione diffunditur, de sola figura originis sub Christiano nomine quasi arescentia sarmenta gloriari, quas haereses et schismata nominamus; praeuisa, praedicta, scripta sunt omnia. uidetis certe simulacrorum templa partim sine reparatione conlapsa partim diruta partim clausa partim in usus alios commutata ipsaque simulacra uel confringi uel incendi uel includi uel destrui atque ipsas huius saeculi potestates, quae aliquando pro simulacris populum Christianum persequebantur, uictas et domitas non a repugnantibus sed a morientibus Christianis et contra eadem simulacra, pro quibus Christianos occidebant, impetus suos legesque uertisse et imperii nobilissimi eminentissimum culmen ad sepulcrum piscatoris Petri submisso diademate supplicare.

Know, dearest friends, that I say this with an unspeakable trembling of heart for you; for I know how much heavier and more ruinous a case you will have before God if I say these things to you in vain. All that our forebears remembered to have happened to the human race in past times and handed down to us, and all that we too see and hand down to posterity, insofar as it concerns seeking and holding the true religion, divine Scripture has not kept silent about; but everything passes exactly as it was foretold that it would pass. You certainly see the Jewish people torn from their homeland and scattered and spread over almost all lands; and the origin of that people, its growth, the loss of its kingdom and its dispersion everywhere happened as they were foretold. You certainly see that the word of God and the law, coming forth from that people through Christ, who was wonderfully born of them, has taken hold of and held the faith of all nations; we read all this foretold just as we see it. You certainly see many cut off from the root of the Christian fellowship, which is spread through the world by sure propagation through the sees of the apostles and the successions of bishops, glorying under the Christian name only in the appearance of their origin, like withering branches; these we call heresies and schisms. All was foreseen, foretold, written. You certainly see the temples of idols partly fallen without repair, partly torn down, partly closed, partly converted to other uses, and the idols themselves broken or burned or shut up or destroyed; and the very powers of this world which once persecuted the Christian people for the sake of idols conquered and tamed, not by Christians fighting back but by Christians dying, and turning their attacks and laws against those same idols for which they used to kill Christians; and the highest summit of the noblest empire laying down its diadem and making supplication at the tomb of Peter the fisherman.

Isa 2:3 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 15:6 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine argues from fulfilled prophecy: the dispersion of the Jews, the spread of the gospel, heresies and schisms, and the fall of idolatry and conversion of the emperors.

  • The Jewish dispersion is presented as fulfilled prophecy, as was common in the period. Allusions: Isa 2:3; John 15:6 (withered branches).

Topics: Heresy, Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.3 (CSEL 57:512–514; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-3).

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232.4CSEL 57:514

Haec omnia diuinae scripturae, quae in manus omnium iam uenerunt, ante longissima tempora futura esse testatae sunt: haec omnia tanto robustiore fide laetamur fieri, quanto maiore auctoritate praedicta esse in sanctis litteris inuenimus. numquidnam, obsecro uos, numquidnam solum iudicium dei, quod inter fideles atque infideles futurum esse in eisdem litteris legimus, cum illa omnia, sicut praedicta sunt, uenerint, numquidnam solum iudicium dei uenturum non esse putabimus? immo uero ueniet, sicut omnia illa uenerunt. nec quisquam erit homo nostrorum temporum, qui se in illo iudicio de sua possit infidelitate defendere, cum Christum cantet et iustus ad aequitatem et periurus ad fraudem et rex ad imperium et miles ad pugnam et maritus propter regimen et uxor propter obsequium et pater propter praeceptum et filius propter oboedientiam et dominus propter dominationem et seruus propter famulatum et humilis ad pietatem et superbus ad aemulationem et diues, ut porrigat, et pauper, ut sumat, et ebriosus ad phialam et mendicus ad ianuam et bonus, ut praestet, et malus, ut fallat, et Christianus uenerator et paganus adulator: omnes Christum cantant et, qua uoluntate atque ore cantent, eidem ipsi, quem cantant, rationem sine dubio reddituri sunt.

All these things the divine Scriptures, which have now come into everyone's hands, testified long ages ago would happen; we rejoice that all these things are happening with a faith the firmer the greater the authority with which we find them foretold in the holy writings. Shall we then, I beg you, shall we think that the judgment of God alone, which we read in the same writings will come between believers and unbelievers, when all those other things have come as they were foretold, shall we think that God's judgment alone will not come? No indeed, it will come, as all those things have come. Nor will there be any man of our times who can defend himself at that judgment for his unbelief, since Christ is sung by the just man for fairness and the perjurer for fraud, by the king for rule and the soldier for battle, by the husband for governing and the wife for submission, by the father for commanding and the son for obedience, by the master for lordship and the slave for service, by the humble for devotion and the proud for rivalry, by the rich man to give and the poor man to receive, by the drunkard at his cup and the beggar at the door, by the good man to do good and the bad man to deceive, by the Christian as worshiper and the pagan as flatterer: all sing of Christ, and with what will and what mouth they sing, they will without doubt give account to him of whom they sing.

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Summary: Augustine warns that the judgment foretold in Scripture will surely come like the rest, and no one can plead ignorance, since everyone speaks of Christ.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.4 (CSEL 57:514; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-4).

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232.5CSEL 57:514–515

Est quiddam inuisibile. ex quo creatore principio sunt omnia. quae uidemus. summum, aeternum, incommutabile et nulli effabile nisi tantum sibi. est quiddam, quo se ipsa summitas maiestatis narrat et praedicat, non inpar gignenti atque narranti uerbum, quo ille, qui uerbum gignit, ostenditur. est quaedam sanctitas omnium, quae sancte fiunt, sanctificatrix, ipsius incommutabilis uerbi, per quod narratur illud principium, et ipsius principii, quod pari se uerbo narrat, inseparabilis et indiuisa communio. quis autem hoc totum, quod non dicendo dicere conatus sum et dicendo non dicere. quis hoc possit serenissima et sincerissima mente contueri eoque contuitu beatitudinem ducere atque in id, quod intuetur, deficiens quodam modo se obliuisci et pergere in illud, cuius uisione sibi uilis est, quod est inmortalitate indui et obtinere aeternam salutem. per quam me salutare dignamini? quis hoc possit. nisi qui omnes superbiae suae toros inanes peccata sua confitens complanauerit seque substrauerit mitem atque humilem ad excipiendum doctorem deum?

There is something invisible, from which as Creator and Beginning are all things that we see: highest, eternal, unchangeable, and utterable by none except itself. There is that by which the very summit of majesty utters and proclaims itself, the Word, not unequal to the one who begets and utters it, by which he who begets the Word is shown. There is a certain Holiness, sanctifier of all that is done in holiness, the inseparable and undivided communion of that unchangeable Word through which that Beginning is uttered and of the Beginning itself, which utters itself by an equal Word. But who could behold this whole, which I have tried to say without saying and not to say in saying, who could behold it with a most serene and pure mind, and draw happiness from that beholding, and, failing in some way into what it beholds, forget itself and pass into that by whose vision it is worthless in its own eyes, which is to be clothed with immortality and to obtain the eternal salvation with which you deign to greet me? Who could do this, except one who, confessing his sins, has leveled all the empty swellings of his pride and laid himself down meek and humble to receive God as teacher?

1 Cor 15:53 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 11:29 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Augustine sketches for the Madaurans the Trinity, the Father as invisible Beginning, the equal Word, and the Holy Spirit as their communion, accessible only to the humble.

  • Allusions: 1 Cor 15:53; Matt 11:29.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR misread): innisibile → inuisibile; ereatoro → creatore.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.5 (CSEL 57:514–515; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-5).

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232.6CSEL 57:515–516

Quoniam ergo a uanitate superbiae prius ad humilitatem deponendi sumus, ut inde surgentes solidam celsitudinem teneamus, non potuit nobis hoc tanto magnificentius quanto blandius inspirari, ut nostra ferocitas non ui sed persuasione sedaretur, nisi uerbum illud, per quod se angelis indicat deus pater. quod uirtus et sapientia eius est, quod corde humano uisibilium rerum cupiditate caecato uideri non poterat, personam suam in homine agere atque ostendere dignaretur, ut magis homo timeret extolli fastu hominis quam humiliari exemplo dei. itaque non Christus regno terreno decoratus nec Christus terrenis opibus diues nec Christus ulla terrena felicitate praefulgens sed Christus crucifixus per totum terrarum. orbem praedicatur, quod riserunt prius populi superborum et adhuc rident reliquiae, crediderunt autem prius pauci, nunc populi, quia tunc ad fidem paucorum et contra inrisionem populorum, cum Christus crucifixus praedicaretur, claudi ambulabant, muti loquebantur, surdi audiebant, caeci uidebant, mortui resurgebant. sic tandem animaduertit terrena superbia nihil in ipsis terris esse potentius humilitate diuina, ut etiam saluberrima humilitas humana contra insultantem sibi superbiam diuinae imitationis patrocinio tueretur.

Since, then, we must first be brought down from the vanity of pride to humility, so that rising from there we may hold a solid height, this could not have been inspired in us more magnificently or more gently, so that our fierceness might be calmed not by force but by persuasion, unless that Word through which God the Father makes himself known to the angels, which is his power and wisdom, which could not be seen by a human heart blinded by desire for visible things, had deigned to act and show his person in a man, so that man might fear to be lifted up by human pride more than to be humbled by God's example. And so it is not Christ adorned with an earthly kingdom, nor Christ rich in earthly wealth, nor Christ shining with any earthly happiness, but Christ crucified who is preached through the whole world: at which the peoples of the proud first laughed, and the remnant still laughs; but at first a few believed, now whole peoples, because then, when Christ crucified was preached, to support the faith of the few and against the mockery of the peoples, the lame walked, the dumb spoke, the deaf heard, the blind saw, the dead rose. So at last earthly pride perceived that nothing on earth is more powerful than divine humility, so that even the most wholesome human humility might be protected against the pride that mocks it by the patronage of imitating God.

1 Cor 1:23–24 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 11:5 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine explains that the Word became man to cure pride by humility, and that Christ crucified, confirmed by miracles, has conquered the world.

  • Allusions: 1 Cor 1:23–24; Matt 11:5.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.6 (CSEL 57:515–516; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-6).

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232.7CSEL 57:516–517

Expergiscimini aliquando, fratres mei et parentes mei Madaurenses; hanc occasionem scribendi uobis deus mihi obtulit. quantum potui quidem in negotio fratris Florenti, per quem litteras misistis, sicut deus uoluit, adfui et adiuui; sed tale negotium erat, quod etiam sine opera mea facile peragi posset; prope omnes enim domus ipsius homines, qui apud Hipponem sunt, nouerunt Florentium et multum eius orbitatem dolent. sed epistula mihi a uobis missa est, ut non inpudens esset epistula mea, cum occasione a uobis accepta idolorum cultoribus de Christo aliquid loqueretur. sed obsecro uos, si eum non inaniter in mea epistula nominastis, ut non inaniter uobis haec scripserim. si autem me inridere uoluistis, timete illum. quem prius iudicatum inrisit superbus orbis terrarum et nunc iudicem subiectus expectat; erit enim testis affectus in uos cordis mei per hanc, quantum potui, paginam expressus, erit testis uobis in iudicio eius, qui credentes sibi confirmaturus est et incredulos confusurus. deus unus et uerus uos ab omni huius saeculi uanitate liberatos conuertat ad se. domini praedicabiles et dilectissimi fratres.

Wake up at last, my brothers and my fellow citizens of Madaura; God has given me this occasion of writing to you. In the business of brother Florentius, by whom you sent your letter, I have been present and helped as far as I could, as God willed; but it was a business that could easily have been completed even without my help, for almost all the people of his house who are at Hippo know Florentius and greatly grieve at his bereavement. But a letter was sent me by you, so that my letter would not be impudent if, taking the occasion from you, it said something about Christ to worshipers of idols. But I beg you, if you did not name him in vain in your letter to me, let me not have written this to you in vain. But if you wished to mock me, fear him whom the proud world first mocked when he was judged, and now, subjected, awaits as judge. For the love of my heart toward you, expressed as far as I could in this page, will be a witness; it will be a witness against you at the judgment of him who will confirm those who believe in him and confound unbelievers. May the one true God free you from all the vanity of this world and turn you to himself, my praiseworthy lords and dearly beloved brothers.

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Summary: Augustine urges the Madaurans to wake up, mentions helping Florentius, and warns them to fear Christ the judge if they meant to mock.

  • “Parentes” here probably means fellow townsmen (Augustine studied at Madaura); possibly “kinsmen.”

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR misread): paientes → parentes.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 232.7 (CSEL 57:516–517; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-232-7).

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Chapter 233

233.1CSEL 57:517–519

Solere aiunt quendam ueterum dicere, quibus satis persuasum esset, ut nihil mallent se esse quam uiros bonos, his reliquam facilem esse doctrinam. hanc sententiam — nam, si rite recolo, Socratica est — longe antiquior prophetica iam praecesserat praecipiens hominibus breuiter et simul, non tantum ut se nihil malit esse quam bonum, uerum etiam unde fiat bonus: Diliges, inquit. dominum deum tuum ex toto corde tuo et ex tota anima tua et ex tota mente tua et: Diliges proximum tuum tamquam te ipsum. hoc cui persuasum esset, non ei reliquam facilem sed eam totam esse doctrinam dum taxat utilem ac salubrem. multae enim doctrinae sunt, si tamen doctrinae dicendae sunt, uel superfluae uel noxiae. ueterum libris Christus adtestans: In his, inquit, duobus praeceptis tota lex pendet et prophetae. proinde, quia mihi uideor inspexisse tamquam in speculo sermocinationis mecum tuae nihil te esse malle quam uirum bonum, deum, quo nihil est melius et unde humanus animus haurit, ut bonus sit, quonam modo colendum credas, audeo percontari; nam quod eum colendum credas, iam teneo. quaero etiam, quid de Christo sentias: quod enim eum non parui pendas, aduerti, sed utrum ea sola uia. quae ab illo demonstrata est, ad uitam beatam perueniri posse existimes et aliqua ex causa non eam neglegas ire, sed differas, an et aliam uel alias ad tam opimam et prae omnibus appetendam possessionem uias esse arbitreris et aliquam earum iam te ingredi credas, nosse cupio non, ut opinor, inpudenter; diligo enim te propter id, quod supra dixi, meque abs te diligi non temere existimo nec ulla de re alia inter eos, qui se beniuole nouerunt, sermo fructuosior uel inpenditur uel reposcitur uel accipitur uel recipitur quam, unde boni beatique simus.

They say one of the ancients used to say that for those who were fully persuaded that they wished to be nothing other than good men, the rest of learning was easy. This saying (for, if I recall correctly, it is Socratic) had long been preceded by a much more ancient prophetic one, which teaches men briefly and at once not only that one should wish to be nothing other than good, but also how one becomes good: “You shall love,” it says, “the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind,” and, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Whoever is persuaded of this has not the rest of learning easy, but has the whole of it, at least of what is useful and wholesome. For there are many teachings, if indeed they should be called teachings, either superfluous or harmful. Christ, bearing witness to the books of the ancients, says: “On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” Therefore, since I seem to have seen, as in a mirror of your conversation with me, that you wish to be nothing other than a good man, I venture to ask how you believe God, than whom nothing is better and from whom the human mind draws its goodness, is to be worshiped; for that you believe he is to be worshiped I already know. I also ask what you think of Christ. That you do not hold him cheap I have noticed; but I want to know, not, I think, impudently, whether you think the happy life can be reached by that way alone which he showed, and for some reason do not neglect but postpone going on it, or whether you think there is another way or ways to so rich a possession, desirable above all, and believe you are already entering on one of them. For I love you for the reason I gave above, and I think, not rashly, that I am loved by you; and among those who know each other with goodwill no conversation is more fruitful to spend, to ask for, to receive or to return than on how we may be good and happy.

Matt 22:37 (quotation, high confidence) · Deut 6:5 (quotation, medium confidence) · Lev 19:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 22:40 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine asks the pagan Longinianus how he thinks God should be worshiped and whether Christ's way is the only way to the happy life.

  • To Longinianus, a pagan (ca. 395). Quotations: Deut 6:5 / Matt 22:37; Lev 19:18; Matt 22:40.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray hyphen): quod enim -eum → quod enim eum.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 233.1 (CSEL 57:517–519; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-233-1).

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Chapter 234

234.1CSEL 57:519–520

Beatus sum et relucentis puro uirtutis tuae lumine admodum inlustratus, qui dignum me diuini tui affaminis honore cumulandum esse duxisti. sed graue mihi onus et difficillimam respondendi prouinciam, domine uenerande, satis inponis praecipue tuis percontationibus et sub hoc tempore in talibus explicandis per meae opinionis sententiam, id est a pagano homine, quaestionibus si quidem abundet, quod ex parte uel iam dudum inter nos conuenerit uel nunc identidem litteris magis magisque conueniat praeceptis non dicam tantum Socraticis nec tuis, Romanorum uir uere optime. propheticis aut paucis Hierosolymiticis sed etiam Orpheicis atque Ageticis et Trimegisticis longe ante illis antiquioribus et paene rudibus adhuc saeculis diis auctoribus enatis et toti orbi terrae certis limitibus partitae trifariam diuinitus ostensis, priusquam nomen aut Europa caperet aut Asia acciperet aut Libya possideret uirum bonum, ut tu, medius fidius, et eris et fuisti, si quidem adhuc post hominum memoriam, nisi Xenophontis figmentum ut compositae fabulae schema concedas, adhuc audierim, legerim, uiderim neminem aut certe post unum nullum, quod deo teste bono periculo certoque dixerim, nisi te deum et coniti semper agnoscere et posse puritate animi corporisque proiecta grauedine sectari facillime et spe perfectae conscientiae non dubia credulitate tenere.

I am blessed and greatly illumined by the pure light of your shining virtue, since you have thought me worthy to be honored with your divine address. But you lay on me a heavy burden and a most difficult task of replying, venerable lord, especially by your questions, and at this time, in explaining such questions by the judgment of my opinion, that is, from a pagan man. For indeed it is abundantly clear what has partly long since been agreed between us, or is now again agreed more and more by letters: by precepts, I will not say only Socratic, nor yours, truly best of Romans, the prophetic or the few from Jerusalem, but also Orphic, Agetic and Trismegistic, born far earlier in those more ancient and almost still rude ages with the gods as their authors, and divinely shown to the whole world, divided into three by sure boundaries, before Europe took its name, or Asia received it, or Libya possessed it, that a good man, such as, by heaven, you will be and have been, unless you grant me Xenophon's fiction as the pattern of a composed story, I have still heard of, read of, seen no one since the memory of men, or certainly after one none (I say this with God as witness, safely and surely), except you, who strive always to acknowledge God, and are able most easily to follow him in purity of mind and body, the heaviness cast away, and to hold him in the hope of a perfect conscience with no doubtful belief.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: The pagan Longinianus replies with elaborate compliments, appealing to Socratic, Orphic and Hermetic precepts, and calls Augustine a uniquely good man.

  • Letter of Longinianus to Augustine. The Latin is highly mannered and in places obscure or corrupt in the digital text (e.g. coniti, Ageticis); translated by the probable sense. “Agetic” perhaps refers to Egyptian (Hageticis?) or Chaldean precepts; uncertain. “Trismegistic”: Hermes Trismegistus. “Xenophon's fiction”: probably the Cyropaedia's ideal ruler.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 234.1 (CSEL 57:519–520; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-234-1).

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234.2CSEL 57:520

Verum qua uia effici possit, magis est, ut tu non nescias et mihi non insinuato extrinsecus aliquo dissertes, quam ut a me, domine percolende, scias, quia tunc. fateor, huius boni in sedem profecturus sufficiens, ut mea expetunt sacerdotia. minime necdum et, si tamen potuero, uiaticum colligo. uerum quid traditum sancte atque antiquitus teneam atque custodiam, ut potuero, paucis edicam. uia est in deum melior, qua uir bonus piis, iustis, puris, castis, ueris dictis factisque sine ulla temporum mutatorum captata iactatione probatus et deorum comitatu uallatus dei utique potestatibus emeritis, id est eius unius et uniuersi et incomprehensibilis et ineffabilis infatigabilisque creatoris impletis uirtutibus, quod, ut uestrum est, angelos dicitis uel quid alterum post deum uel cum deo. aut a deo aut in deum intentione animi mentisque ire festinat. uia est, inquam. qua purgati antiquorum sacrorum piis praeceptis expiationibusque purissimis et abstemiis obseruationibus decocti anima et corpore constantes deproperant.

But by what way this can be accomplished, it is more fitting that you should not be ignorant of it and discourse on it to me, without anything brought in from outside, than that you should learn it from me, most esteemed lord, since, I confess, I am not yet sufficient to set out for the seat of this good, as my priesthoods require; I am still gathering provisions for the journey, if indeed I can. But what has been handed down holily and anciently, which I hold and guard as best I can, I will tell in a few words. The better way to God is that by which a good man, proved by pious, just, pure, chaste, true words and deeds without any boasting sought from changing times, and surrounded by the company of the gods, the powers of God having been earned, that is, the virtues of that one, universal, incomprehensible, ineffable and untiring Creator having been fulfilled, whom, as is your custom, you call angels, or something else after God or with God, either from God or toward God, hastens to go with the intention of soul and mind. It is the way, I say, by which those who are purified by the pious precepts of the ancient rites and by most pure expiations, and refined by abstinent observances, hasten on, steadfast in soul and body.

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Summary: Longinianus says the way to God is a life of virtue with the help of the gods and purification by the ancient rites and abstinence.

  • Longinianus was evidently a pagan priest (mea sacerdotia). The syntax of the second sentence is confused in the Latin; translated closely.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 234.2 (CSEL 57:520; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-234-2).

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234.8CSEL 57:520–521

De Christo autem tuae iam credulitatis carnali et spiritus deo, per quem in illum summum, beatum, uerum et patrem omnium ire securus es, domine pater percolende, non audeo nec ualeo, quid sentiam, exprimere, quia, quod nescio, difficillimum credo definire. ut autem me cultorem tuarum uirtutum dignatus es iam olim scienti insinuare, quod diligas, satis ad bonae uitae testimonium habeo, quam cum, ne tibi displiceam, qui deo per te animamque tuam cotidie insinuas, custodio. intellegis procul dubio, quod et ego delectabiliter diligam, cum tui iudicii de me habiti normam lineamque accipiens teneam. sed ante omnia quaeso te, ut exiguissimae opinioni meae ueniam concedas et sermoni meo ad te, quia coegisti, remisso, forte incongruo facile indulgeas et me, quid de his existimes uel tu quid sentias, sanctis scriptis tuis, ut ille ait, iam non melle sed nectare dulcioribus, si mereor, informare digneris. dei pietate perfruaris, domine pater, ac perpetua sanctitate deo placeas, quod necesse est.

But about Christ, the God of the flesh and the spirit of your belief, through whom you are confident of going to that highest, blessed, true Father of all, most esteemed lord father, I do not dare and am not able to express what I think, because I believe it most difficult to define what I do not know. But as you once deigned to make known to me, the admirer of your virtues, what you love, I have enough as testimony of a good life, which I keep so as not to displease you, who daily commend yourself to God through yourself and your soul. You surely understand that I too love with delight, since I take and hold the rule and line of the judgment you have formed of me. But above all I ask you to grant pardon to my very slight opinion, and readily to indulge my speech to you, slack and perhaps unfitting, since you compelled it; and, if I deserve it, to deign to instruct me on what you think of these things, or what you feel, by your holy writings, sweeter, as someone says, no longer than honey but than nectar. May you enjoy the goodness of God, lord father, and please God with perpetual holiness, as must be.

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Summary: Longinianus declines to say what he thinks of Christ, since he does not know, and asks Augustine to instruct him by letter.

  • The numbering jumps from 234.2 to 234.8 in the digital text (sections 3–7 are not printed there). The quoted phrase about honey and nectar is unidentified.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 234.8 (CSEL 57:520–521; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/231-1/#p-234-8).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.