Against Arius 4.13–4.23
Latin text: Migne, PL 8 (Latin text: Migne PL 8, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 4
4.13PL 8:1122b–1123a
Quod si haec quae in mundo sunt actus sunt, quanto magis illa quae in aeternis ac supra coelestia sunt, actus sunt et actiones sunt, quae mundana ista genuerunt? Item et anima et Angeli ex animis, et supra animas. Nam et anima αύτογόνω, id est, suo et a se sibi orto motu fertur, αυτοκίνητο? dicitur, unde oxiwro?: ergo semper in motu est, quod est semper agere, et esse ipsam cvipyscov, ut sit ei substantia, ille motus. Dictum est enim: Faciamus hominem ad imaginem et similitudinem nostram. Habet ergo «ύτόγονον χίνησιν, id est, motum a se ortum, ut Deo est, ut Christo. Sed quia non est ille prior spiritus, idcirco alia substantia, et facta, non a se existens, sed facta ut a se haberet motum: quippe anima aliud, aliud vita: vita enim vivendi habitus est, et quasi quaedam forma, vel status vivendo progenitus, in se continens ipsum vivere, atque id esse quod vita est, utrumque sit una substantia: non enim vere alterum in altero, sed unum simplici suo geminum; et idcirco in se, quia ex se; et ideo ex se, quia aliud operatur in septima simplicitas: quies enim nihil gignit; motus vero et agendi operatio format sibi ex se quod sit, vel potius quonammodo sit: namque esse, vivere est: vitam autem esse, motus quidam est, id est, forma viventis, confecta ipso illo cui forma est: illud autem quod est conficiens, id est vivere: quia nunquam coepit: a se enim quod vivit, non incipit, quia semper vivit, unde nec vita incipit: cum enim conficiens sine exordio, et id quod conficitur caret exordio. Simul ergo ut utrumque et consubstantiale. Vivere autem Deus est, vita Christus: et in eo quod est vivere, vita est, et in eo quod est vita, vivere. Hoc quidem modo alterum in altero, quia confectum et conficiens alterum in altero. Ut enim conficiens in confecto, ita confectum in conficiente, maxime si semper ista: ergo et pater in filio, et filius in patre: etenim conficiens et Confectum conficiens, et confectum conficiente confectum; ergo una substantia, non una duobus, et In una duo; sed quia in qua Deus, in eadem filius, id est ejusmodi: ut enim vivit Deus, ita vivit et filius: In quali substantia pater, in tali filius.
And if these things in the world are acts, how much more are those in the eternal realm and above the heavens acts and actions, which begot these things of the world? Likewise the soul, and the Angels who are from souls and above souls. For the soul too is carried by a self-begotten motion, that is, a motion of its own, arising from itself to itself; it is called self-moving, and hence ever-moving. It is always in motion, then, which is always to act, and to be itself activity, so that that motion is its substance. For it is said: “Let us make man according to our image and likeness.” It has, then, a self-begotten motion, that is, a motion arising from itself, as God has, as Christ has. But because it is not that prior Spirit, it is therefore another substance, and made, not existing from itself, but made so as to have motion from itself. For soul is one thing, life another. For life is the state of living, and as it were a certain form or condition begotten by living, containing in itself living itself and being what life is, both being one substance. For truly the one is not in the other, but is one twinned in its own simplicity; and therefore it is in itself because it is from itself, and from itself because simplicity operates something else within itself. For rest begets nothing; but motion and the operation of acting form for themselves, from themselves, what they are, or rather in what way they are. For to be is to live; and to be life is a certain motion, that is, the form of the living one, made by that very thing whose form it is. That which makes is living, because it never began; for what lives from itself does not begin, because it always lives; hence life does not begin either. For when the maker is without beginning, what is made also lacks beginning. Both, then, are together and consubstantial. Living is God, life is Christ; and in what is living there is life, and in what is life there is living. In this way, indeed, each is in the other, because made and maker are each in the other. For as the maker is in the made, so the made is in the maker, especially if they are always so. So the Father is in the Son and the Son in the Father: for the maker is maker of the made, and the made is made by the maker. There is one substance, then: not one shared by two, nor two in one, but because in the substance in which God is, in the same is the Son, that is, of the same kind: for as God lives, so the Son lives; of such substance as the Father is, of such is the Son.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 1:26 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:38 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus contrasts the soul, a made substance with self-originated motion, with the Son, life eternally made by the Father's living without beginning, so that maker and made are in each other and of one substance.
- Migne reads motus (“a certain motion”) where other editions read modus (“a certain mode”); Migne's reading is translated.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (joined words): ut ase haberet → ut a se haberet; ase enim quod vivit → a se enim quod vivit.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.13 (PL 8:1122b–1123a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.14PL 8:1123a–1123d
Sed si vivit, inquiunt, pater, vivit et filius, et Idcirco eadem talique substantia ambo. Substantia autem istius vivit, cum utrumque sit, vivit utrumque, sine ortu est utrumque sempiternum. Sed hoc excluditur Evangelistae sacratis verbis, loquente ipso filio Domino nostro Jesu Christo: Vivit Pater. Hic fons sine ortu est. At ubi aliunde principium? Et ego, inquit, vivo propter Patrem. Si ergo propter patrem, a patre accepit: et si accepit, genitus ab ingenito: et si vivit, existentia certa est, visque Substantiae in utroque cum isto uniusmodi vivit, eadem patri et filio, sed filio a patre substantia est. Quod enim de spiritu nascitur, spiritus est: ergo de tali patris substantia, talis filii Substantia. Atque ut obtendatur magis a patre data et Substantia, et eadem unaque substantia, dictum quod vivit, ac vita substantia est: ergo eadem Deo, et a Deo Christo filio substantia; hoc dicente Evangelista: Ut enim Deus habet ex se vitam, ita et Filio dedit ex se habere vitam: ομοουσιϋς ergo Christus cum Deo: id est, consubstantialis, quod est ejusdem substantiae, id est, primae, principalis, universalis, unde omnia quae sunt, et vivunt vitam habentia επακτόν, id est, illatam, non a se genitam, neque quo sit ipsorum Vivere, quod est Dei et filii. Tantum quippe omnibus est caeteris ex vita, quantum largiatur Christus. In Deo vivere ut principale conficiens est vitam, uno atque eodem existentia fonte, nullo priore vel tempore vel potestate, dumtaxat circa substantiam. Unde sive hoc accipiamus esse 6/χοού- σιον, quod eadem sit substantia, nulla dubitatio est eamdem esse, quia et qui vivit, jam vita est, quod est Deus: et qui vita est, vivit, quod est Christus: et utrisque a se vita est, sicuti dictum est: Ut habet ex se vitam Pater, ita et filio dedit ex se habere vitam. Si autem hoc accipimus ομοοΰήον esse, quod est ίμοούatov είναι, simul eamdem esse substantiam, facilius id et manifestius approbatur quo patrem dixi esse vel filium. Vivere enim et vita ita simul sunt, et semper simul, ut et in eo quod est Vivere, vita sit: et rursus id sit vita, quod vivere.
“But if the Father lives,” they say, “the Son lives too, and therefore both are of the same and such a substance. And the substance of this ‘he lives’, since it belongs to both, both live; both are without origin, everlasting.” But this is excluded by the sacred words of the evangelist, the Son himself, our Lord Jesus Christ, speaking: “The Father lives.” This is the fountain without origin. But where is the beginning from another? “And I,” he says, “live because of the Father.” If, then, he lives because of the Father, he received from the Father; and if he received, he was begotten from the unbegotten; and if he lives, his existence is certain, and the force of substance in both is of one kind with this “he lives”, the same for Father and Son, but the Son's substance is from the Father. For what is born of spirit is spirit: from such a substance of the Father, then, such is the substance of the Son. And so that it might be shown more clearly that the substance was given by the Father, and that it is one and the same substance, it was said that “he lives” and life are substance. The substance of God, then, and of Christ the Son from God, is the same, as the evangelist says: “For as God has life from himself, so he has given to the Son to have life from himself.” Christ, then, is homoousios with God, that is, consubstantial, which means of the same substance, the first, principal and universal substance, from which come all things that are and live, having life brought in from outside, not begotten from itself, nor such that their living is that which belongs to God and the Son. For all others have as much of life as Christ bestows. In God, living is the principal maker of life, the two existing from one and the same fountain, with nothing prior in time or in power, at least as regards substance. Hence, if we take homoousion to mean that the substance is the same, there is no doubt that it is the same, because he who lives is already life, which is God, and he who is life lives, which is Christ; and both have life from themselves, as it is said: “As the Father has life from himself, so he has given to the Son to have life from himself.” But if we take homoousion to mean being of the same substance together, this is proved more easily and plainly by what I have said the Father and the Son are. For living and life are together, and always together, so that in what is living there is life, and again life is what living is.
John 6:57 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:26 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus answers the objection that two living ones would both be unbegotten: the Son lives “because of the Father”, receiving the same substance from him, and so is homoousios in both senses, the same and together.
- “Brought in from outside” renders ἐπακτόν; “being of the same substance together” renders ὁμοῦ οὐσίαν εἶναι (garbled in the digital text).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): sinc ortu → sine ortu; et a beo Christo → et a Deo Christo; habet ex se titam, ita et Filid dedit → habet ex se vitam, ita et Filio dedit; qnod est Del et filii → quod est Dei et filii; dubitatio est camdem esse → dubitatio est eamdem esse; jam tita est → jam vita est; sicutl dictum est → sicuti dictum est.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.14 (PL 8:1123a–1123d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.15PL 8:1123d–1124b
Etenim capiamus exemplum: quamquam quod dico res ipsa est potius, non exemplum. Deum nihil aliud esse diximus quam vivere, sed illud principale, illud unde omne vivere omnium, caeterorum actio ipsa in agendo existens, atque in hujusmodi motu esse suum habens, quod est vel existentiam, vel substantiam suam habens: quanquam ne habens quidem, sed existens ipsum, quod sit principaliter et universaliter vivere. Id autem quod conficitur ex isto actu, et quasi forma ejus est, vita. Ut enim αιών conficitur praesenti semper rerum omnium actu, ita vivendo et ipso vivendi semper praesenti opere vita conficitur. Et ut ita fingamus, vitalitas hoc est, ut vitae forma ad potentiam suam substantiamque generatur. Sed et nostrum vivere constat ex praesenti semper tempore. Non enim vivimus praeteritum, aut vivimus futurum, sed semper praesenti utimur. Hoc enim solum tempus est, quod ipsum solum, quia solum tempus est, imago esse dicitur τον αίωνος, id est, aeternitatis. Quomodo enim αιών semper per praesentia habet omnia, et haec semper. Nos quoque, quia per praesens tempus habemus omnia quae habere possumus, idcirco hoc tempus nostrum τού «ΐώνος imago est, quia nostrum praesens non iisdem, neque idem semper est praesens: conficitur ergo vivendo vita, ac simul existendo formatur: ac formatio apparentia est; apparentia vero ab occultis ortus est, et ab occultis ortus et natalis est, et ejus natalis, qui et antequam sic oriretur exstiterit; hinc et in vivendo vita, antequam vita; et posterior tamen vita, quia vivendo vita, et semper atque ex aeterno vita: quia in eo quod est, vivit, et ex aeterno vivit, est vita. Cum igitur vivat Deus, sit vita Christus, quia vita oritur existens ab eo quod et vivit; necessario vivit pater, est vita filius, ita ut supra docuimus, ut et in eo quod est vivit, vita sit: et in vita insit et vivere. Ergo filius «μοβύσικ patri, ut supra docuimus cum exemplis.
Let us take an example, though what I am saying is rather the thing itself than an example. We have said that God is nothing other than living: but that principal living, that from which comes all the living of all things; the very action of the others, existing in acting, and having its being in such motion, that is, having its existence or substance; though not even “having”, but existing itself as that which is living principally and universally. And what is made from this act, and is as it were its form, is life. For as eternity is made by the ever-present act of all things, so by living, and by the ever-present work of living, life is made. And, to put it so, this is vitality: that the form of life is begotten according to its power and substance. But our living too consists of an ever-present time. For we do not live the past, nor do we live the future, but always use the present. For this alone is time, and because it alone is time, it is said to be the image of aion, that is, of eternity. For as eternity always has all things through presents, and has them always, so we too, because we have through present time all that we can have, this time of ours is the image of eternity, though our present is not the same, nor always the same present. Life, then, is made by living, and at the same time is formed by existing; and formation is appearance; and appearance is a rising from hidden things; and from hidden things it is a rising and a birth, the birth of one who existed even before he so arose. Hence in living there is life before it is life; and yet life is later, because it is life by living; and it is always and from eternity life, because in that it is, it lives, and from eternity it lives, it is life. Since, then, God lives and Christ is life, because life arises, existing, from that which also lives, necessarily the Father lives and the Son is life, as we taught above, so that in what is “he lives” there is life, and in life there is also living. The Son, then, is homoousios with the Father, as we taught above with examples.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus compares the generation of life from living with eternity made by an ever-present act, of which our present time is an image, and concludes that the Son is homoousios with the Father.
- “Aion” renders αἰών (eternity). The description of time as the image of eternity recalls Plato, Timaeus 37d.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): semper prosenti opere → semper praesenti opere; quae tabere possumus → quae habere possumus; in eo quod eat, vivit → in eo quod est, vivit.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 37d (Plato (works); allusion)
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.15 (PL 8:1123d–1124b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.16PL 8:1124b–1125a
Nunc illud sequitur quid sit cum his sanctus Spiritus explicatus. De Deo ista et dicta sunt, et probata: Deum esse quod esse, Spiritum esse quod est vivere. Item lumen esse quod est intelligentiam esse, et scientiam. Etenim lumen nihil occultum, nihil obscurum esse permittit, aperit, illustrat, illuminat. Est igitur Deus hoc ipsum quod Deus, est esse, est esse primum et principale omnibus quae sunt, pro modo percipientium esse praestans, ut ante docuimus, hoc, id est, vivere, hoc intelligere, id est, hoc quod est esse, hoc est spiritus, hoc lumen. Ista enim in uno ac simplici, immo unum ac simplex, Hoc sunt quod est esse, hoc vel existentiam, vel substantiam jure dicimus. Verum cum principale istorum sit illud, quod est esse; duo autem alia vivere et intelligere motus esse intelligantur, cum omnis motus a quiete nascatur. Quies autem est id quod est esse; ab eo vero quod esse, nascitur motio, exin actio: motio autem primi illius quod est esse, vivere et intelligere. Utrumque enim motus est, et unus motus, duas virtutes praestans officio gemino, una eademque substantia. Nam substantia iis motus est: non enim in iis aliud est esse, aliud moveri. Sic item non aliud est vivere, aliud intelligere, quantum ad substantiam pertinet. Etenim viventis est intelligere, et intelligentis vivere, per actus se vertente uno motu: ita tamen, ut manente opera actuque vivendi intelligentiae actus agitetur: unde cum Christus vita sit, Spiritus autem sanctus scientia et intelligentia: omnia tamen Spiritus sanctus quae habet a Christo accepit, Christus a patre, id est, ab eo quod est esse; exstiterit vita, et vivere exstiterit scientia et intelligere: nec tum, cum illud esse primum ita sit, ut cum esse sit, sit et moveri.
Now follows the explanation of what the Holy Spirit is, together with these. Of God these things have been said and proved: that God is what being is, and that Spirit is what living is; likewise, that light is what being understanding is, and knowledge. For light allows nothing to be hidden, nothing obscure; it opens, illumines, enlightens. God, then, is this very thing which God is: he is being, he is the first and principal being for all things that are, providing being according to the measure of those who receive it, as we taught before; he is this, that is, living; he is this, understanding; that is, this which is being, this is spirit, this is light. For these are in one and simple, or rather are one and simple. These are what being is; this we rightly call either existence or substance. But the principal of these is that which is being, while the other two, living and understanding, are understood to be motions, since every motion is born from rest. Rest is that which is being; from that which is being, motion is born, and from it action; and the motion of that first, which is being, is living and understanding. For both are motion, and one motion, providing two powers by a twin office, one and the same substance. For motion is substance for these; in them being is not one thing and being moved another. So likewise living is not one thing and understanding another, as far as substance is concerned. For understanding belongs to the living and living to the understanding, turning through their acts by one motion; yet so that, while the work and act of living remain, the act of understanding is set in motion. Hence, since Christ is life and the Holy Spirit knowledge and understanding, the Holy Spirit nonetheless received from Christ all that he has, and Christ from the Father, that is, from that which is being; life came to exist, and from living came knowledge and understanding; and this was so even then, since that first being is such that, when it is being, it is also being moved.
John 4:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 John 1:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 16:14 (allusion, high confidence) · John 16:15 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that God is being, spirit and light, and that living and understanding are one motion from that being, so that Christ is life and the Holy Spirit knowledge, receiving from Christ as Christ from the Father.
- The last clause is obscure in the Latin and is translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and word split; OCR slips; uncertain characters and split word): isto- (??)um → istorum; unde curo Christus → unde cum Christus; scientia ot intelli– gere → scientia et intelligere; iliud esse primam → illud esse primum.
Topics: Trinity, The Holy Spirit
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.16 (PL 8:1124b–1125a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.17PL 8:1125a–1125d
Quanquam dicatur quies, movetur autem intus motu unde vivit sibi, et intelligit semetipsum. Ergo a motu interno, extra et quod est foris natus est motus, ab eo quod est intus esse, et ab eo quod est intus vivere, foris vivere, ab eo quod est intus intelligere; foris intelligere, movente se vita et intelligentia. Sunt enim motus eodem modo existente simul, eo quod est esse, ut et intus esset et foris, ista Trinitas intus, cum Deus unus et solus foris, cum Jesus Christus intus et foris, cum ambo Deus unus, atque ex iis cum Deus όμοούοτιον Christo, necessario et Christus όμοοΰσιον Spiritu sancto, ac per hoc et per Christum Deo: ipse etiam de Deo egressus est. Si enim omnis motus qui foris est, a Dei motu qui intus motus est, ergo et iste a Deo. Etenim scientia et intelligentia, existentia est utriusque ac potentia cognoscentiae; idque hoc ipsum motus est, hoc ipso quod motus substantia: necessario igitur in Christo, vel Christus est, et ab ipso habet omnia, quia a vita quod Christus est, substitit intelligentia, et ideo alter. Hoc enim dictum: Et a me habet omnia. Habet autem et a me, duo sunt: ergo alter et alter: Sed quia motus et ipse Spiritus sanctus, motus et Christus, et quia vita vera Christus est, et credentibus in se dat vitam veram, hoc est aeternum, et adest apud Deum credentibus in se, quod Dei sit filios, id que per fidem: idcirco per Christum reconciliamur Deo; propter vero hominum obrutam sui et Dei memoriam, opus est Spiritu sancto, si accesserit scientia: Et intelligere quae sit latitudo Dei, quae longitudo, quae profunditas et altitudo; et confirmata fuerit charitas, et fides in Christum per Spiritum sanctum, quia scientia est, fiet salvus; plene namque ipse dicit testimonium de Christo, et docet omnia, et est interior Christi virtus, scientiam tribuens, et ad salvationem proficiens, unde alter Paracletus. Etenim mortuis per peccata hominibus vita prius danda fuerat, ut erigerentur in Deum per fidem, quod erat jam vivere ex Dei vita quam attulit Christus in carne, ut carni etiam subveniret. Quare confirmatis hominibus per fidem in Christum filium Dei, etiam scientia danda videatur, et de Christo, et perinde de Deo: item de mundo, ut eum argueret. Quae cum intellexissent, facilius ad Dei lucem hominis sui divinorumque intelligentia liberarentur terrenorum mundanorumque contemptu, et desiderio quod excitat scientia divinorum.
Although it is called rest, it moves within by an inner motion by which it lives to itself and understands itself. From the inner motion, then, motion was born outwardly, to what is outside: from that which is being within, and from that which is living within, living outside; from that which is understanding within, understanding outside, life and understanding moving themselves. For the motions exist in the same way together with that which is being, so that it is both within and without: this Trinity is within, when God is one and alone; outside, when it is Jesus Christ; within and without, when both are one God. And from these, since God is homoousion with Christ, Christ is necessarily homoousion with the Holy Spirit, and through this and through Christ with God; for he too came forth from God. For if every motion that is outside is from God's motion, which is inner motion, then this one too is from God. For knowledge and understanding are the existence and the power of knowing of both; and this is itself motion, by the very fact that motion is substance. Necessarily, then, he is in Christ, or is Christ, and has all things from him, because understanding came to subsist from life, which Christ is, and therefore he is another. For it is said: “And he has all things from me.” “He has” and “from me” are two: so one and another. But because the Holy Spirit too is motion, and Christ is motion, and because Christ is true life and gives true, that is, eternal, life to those who believe in him, and is present with God for those who believe in him, so that they are sons of God, and this through faith, we are therefore reconciled to God through Christ. But because men's memory of themselves and of God had been buried, there is need of the Holy Spirit, if knowledge is to be added: to understand what is the breadth of God, what the length, what the depth and height. And when love and faith in Christ have been confirmed through the Holy Spirit, because he is knowledge, a man will be saved. For he bears full witness about Christ, teaches all things, and is the inner power of Christ, granting knowledge and advancing toward salvation; hence he is another Paraclete. For to men dead through sins life had first to be given, so that they might be raised to God through faith, which was already to live from God's life, which Christ brought in the flesh, to help the flesh too. Therefore, once men had been confirmed through faith in Christ the Son of God, it seemed that knowledge too should be given, about Christ, and likewise about God, and about the world, to convict it. When they had understood these things, they would more easily be set free toward God's light by understanding their own inner man and divine things, by contempt for earthly and worldly things, and by the desire that knowledge of divine things arouses.
John 16:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:15 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · Rom 5:10 (allusion, medium confidence) · Eph 3:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 15:26 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:26 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:16 (allusion, medium confidence) · Eph 2:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 16:8 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that life and understanding go forth from God's inner motion as Christ and the Spirit, and that Christ gives life through faith while the Spirit adds the knowledge that completes salvation.
- An editor's reference printed in the text, “(Joan. xvi, 14, 15)”, is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and word split; OCR slips; editor's reference leaked into the text; stray mark; word split at line end): et quod est toris natus → et quod est foris natus; est intus in– telligere → est intus intelligere; cum Jesus Cliristus intus et furis, cum ambo Deas unus → cum Jesus Christus intus et foris, cum ambo Deus unus; scientia et intel– ligentia → scientia et intelligentia; omnia (Joan. xvi, 14, 1(??)). → omnia.; intelligere qum sit latitudo Dei, quoe longitudo, quoe profunditas → intelligere quae sit latitudo Dei, quae longitudo, quae profunditas; per fidem,·quod → per fidem, quod; Christus in earne → Christus in carne; terrenorum mun– dunorumque → terrenorum mundanorumque.
Topics: Trinity, Christology, The Holy Spirit, Faith
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.17 (PL 8:1125a–1125d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.18PL 8:1125d–1127a
Venit ergo posterior, id est, fides posterior operari: recedente enim Christo, qui per miracula et per praecepta seminaverat fidem, quod ipse Dei filius esset, et vitam in se credentibus daret, completa sunt spiritu omnia, et fides cognitione in Christum adulta succrevit, et ipso in Christo semper praesente sic enim dixit: Non enim loquetur a semetipso, sed quaecumque audierit loquetur, et futura annuntiabit vobis: ille me honorificabit, quoniam de mea accipiet. Ergo de vita intelligentia; et ipsa vita de vivendo, id est, de Patre Filius, de Filio Spiritus sanctus; sic enim subjunxit: Omnia quaecumque habet Pater mea sunt: propterea dixit, mea sunt, quia quae pater habet filii sunt, esse, vivere, intelligere: haec eadem habet Spiritus, omnia ergo όμοουσια. Idem tamen ut ostenderet suam praesentiam semper χατά Ματθαίον sic loquitur: Euntes nunc docete omnes gentes, baptizantes eos in nomine Patris et Filii, et Spiritus sancti, docentes eos servare omnia quaecumque mandavi vobis, et ecce ego vobiscum sum omnibus diebus usque ad consummationem saeculi. Ex hoc ostenditur quodammodo idem Jesus, idem Spiritus sanctus, actu scilicet agendi diversi, quod ille docet intelligentiam, iste dat vitam. Etenim idem ipse et unus motus et primus motus: quo contingit, ut qui vivit, et vere vivat, et intelligat, et vere intelligat, qui vere intelligit, vere vivat. Atque ut idem manifestetur Jesus et Spiritus sanctus, attendamus istud: nempe Spiritus sanctus doctrina est, intelligentia, ipsaque sapientia et Christo et Deo sapientia datur: atque hoc Christus nomine nuncupatur, quod est (Evangelium) Christum esse Dei filium, quod (Evangelium) definitur Dei virtus atque sapientia, ut Paulus ad Romanos. Item Salomon: Omnis sapientia a Deo est et cum eo fuit semper ante aevum. EcCe Ιμοοΰσκη apparet cum sapientia et de Deo datur, et a Deo datur, utique Christo et Spiritui sancto. Et cum dictum est, quod cum Deo semper fuerit, quod o/iOouccov est, ostenditur simul cum patre. Deinde cum dictum, ante oevum, non ergo cum in carne, tunc Christus. Item prior omnium creata est sapientia, si primogenitus Christus, sapientia Christus. Deinde quod sequitur. Spiritus sanctus: et intellectus prudentiae ab aevo. Si Spiritus sanctus prudentia est, et Intellectus; si scientia, et doctrina. Christus est sine dubio, quia ipse est ab aevo, id est, ex aeterno, et primogenitus, et quod est amplius, unigenitus. Haec et alia in multis tractata libris a me, ομοούσιάν probant non solum Deum et Christum, sed etiam Spiritum sanctum. Demus igitur vel accipiamus Deum id esse, quod est primum et principale vivere, quod est verum et principale esse: non enim est, quod non vivit: hoc ipsum vivere operatione ipsa conficere, et generare vitam, apertum fecimus. In eo vero quod vita est, scientia et intelligentia inest. Vivit ergo Deus, et vivendo vita est Deus, et cum vita est, intelligentia est. Sed haec tria ut unum ac simplex, et in eo ut principale sit, id est, hoc sit quod esse magis existentia principali est Deus vivens, necessario et semetipsum intelligens. Hinc enim omnia intelligens, quia semetipsum intelligit. Omnium existentiarum causa est, et ideo omnia: ergo vita et intelligentia in id accepta, quod est esse intus, semper operantur, quod est vivere. Vivere autem Deo hoc est quod est esse. Esse igitur cuncta, unus et omnipotens Deus est. Quid igitur? si intus in se operatur, vel se potius operatur vita et intelligentia? Quomodo ista veluti foris apparere potuerunt? et quid est foris aut intus ον λόγον? Quaesierunt philosophi et docti ad legem viri, quid sint et ubi sint. Quid sint, substantiam eorum vel existentiam, ut explicemus: ubi sint, utrum inde an extra, et in omnibus reliquis, an in utroque et ubique.
He came later, then; that is, faith came later to operate. For when Christ withdrew, who by miracles and precepts had sown the faith that he was the Son of God and gave life to those who believed in him, all things were completed by the Spirit, and faith, grown to maturity by knowledge of Christ, increased, Christ himself being always present. For so he said: “For he will not speak from himself, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will announce to you the things to come. He will honour me, because he will receive from what is mine.” Understanding, then, comes from life, and life itself from living: that is, the Son from the Father, the Holy Spirit from the Son. For so he added: “All that the Father has is mine.” He said “is mine” because what the Father has belongs to the Son: being, living, understanding. These same the Spirit has: all, then, are homoousia. Yet, to show his constant presence, the same Lord speaks thus according to Matthew: “Go now and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to keep all that I have commanded you; and behold, I am with you all days until the consummation of the age.” From this it is shown in a certain way that Jesus is the same and the Holy Spirit the same, though with a different act of acting, because the one teaches understanding and the other gives life. For the same is both one motion and first motion; and so it happens that he who lives truly lives and understands, and truly understands, and he who truly understands truly lives. And so that Jesus and the Holy Spirit may be shown to be the same, let us attend to this: the Holy Spirit is teaching, understanding and wisdom itself; and wisdom is ascribed both to Christ and to God; and Christ is called by this name, since the Gospel is that Christ is the Son of God, and the Gospel is defined as the power and wisdom of God, as Paul says to the Romans. Likewise Solomon: “All wisdom is from God, and has been with him always, before the age.” See how homoousia appears, when wisdom is said to be both of God and given by God, certainly to Christ and to the Holy Spirit. And when it is said that it was always with God, which is homoousion, it is shown to be together with the Father. Then, when it is said “before the age”, Christ did not begin when he was in the flesh. Likewise, “wisdom was created before all things”: if Christ is the firstborn, Christ is wisdom. Then what follows refers to the Holy Spirit: “and the understanding of prudence from eternity”. If the Holy Spirit is prudence and understanding, if he is knowledge and teaching, he is without doubt Christ, because he is from the age, that is, from eternity, and firstborn, and, what is more, only-begotten. These and other things, treated by me in many books, prove that not only God and Christ but also the Holy Spirit are homoousia. Let us grant, then, or accept, that God is what is first and principal living, which is true and principal being; for what does not live is not. We have made it clear that this very living by its operation makes and begets life. And in what is life, knowledge and understanding are present. God, then, lives, and by living God is life, and when he is life he is understanding. But these three are as one and simple, and in it as principal, that is, this is what being is: by his principal existence God is above all living, and necessarily also understanding himself. Hence he understands all things, because he understands himself. He is the cause of all existences, and therefore he is all things. Life and understanding, then, taken into that which is being within, always operate, and this is living; and for God living is what being is. The one almighty God, then, is the being of all things. What, then? If he operates within himself, or rather if life and understanding operate him, how could these appear as if outside? And what is outside or inside of the Word? Philosophers and men learned in the law have asked what they are and where they are: what they are, so that we may explain their substance or existence; where they are, whether there or outside, and in all the rest, or in both and everywhere.
John 16:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 16:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 28:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:16 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 1:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:15 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus argues from John 16, Matthew 28 and Sirach 1 that the Spirit, the wisdom and knowledge of God, completes the faith Christ sowed, and that Father, Son and Spirit are homoousia; he then raises the question of how inner life and understanding appear outwardly.
- Sir 1:1 and 1:4 are quoted as “Solomon”. A sentence repeated in the digital text is removed. Victorinus's statements that “Jesus is the same and the Holy Spirit the same” and that the Spirit “is without doubt Christ” are translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and word split; OCR slips; repeated sentence in the digital text; uncertain characters in the digital text; uncertain characters; OCR slip; word split at line end): Dei fi– lius → Dei filius; sed quoecumque audierit → sed quaecumque audierit; accipiet (??) Ergo → accipiet. Ergo; de Putre Filius, de Filio Spi– ritus → de Patre Filius, de Filio Spiritus; Omnia quoecumque habet Pater → Omnia quaecumque habet Pater; esse, vi– vere → esse, vivere; omnia quoecumque mandavi → omnia quaecumque mandavi; consummationem soeculi → consummationem saeculi; idem lesus, idem Spiritus sanctas, acto → idem Jesus, idem Spiritus sanctus, actu; et anus motus → et unus motus; a Deo esti et → a Deo est et; ante (??)vum → ante aevum; quod bpowcw* est apparet, cum sapientia et de Deo datur utique Christo et Spiritui sancto. Et cum dictum est, quod cum Deo semper fuerit, quod o/iOouccov est → quod o/iOouccov est; intellectus prudentioe ab oevo → intellectus prudentiae ab aevo; quia ipse est ab sevo → quia ipse est ab aevo; intelligentia inest(??) vivit ergo Deu, → intelligentia inest. Vivit ergo Deus,; seraper operantur → semper operantur.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 1:1 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Sir 1:4 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Trinity, Christology, Baptism, The Holy Spirit
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.18 (PL 8:1125d–1127a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.19PL 8:1127a–1127d
Haec quidem nos in aliis libris exsequenter pleneque tradidimus. Verum nunc ista summatim breviterque dicemus. Ante ov et ante λόγον, vis et potentia existendi illa est, quae significatur hoc verbo quod est esse, Graece quod est τό είναι. Hoc ipsum esse duobus accipiendum modis: unum, ut universale sit, et principaliter principale: unde in caeteris esse sit, alioque esse est caeteris quod est, omnium post vel generum vel specierum, atque hujusmodi caeterorum. Verum esse primum ita imparticipatum est, ut nec unum dici possit, nec solum, sed per praelationem ante unum, et ante solum, ultra simplicitatem, praeexistentiam potius quam existentiam, universalium omnium universale, infinitum, interminatum, sed aliis omnibus, non sibi: et idcirco sine forma intellectu quodam auditur, et praeintelligentia potius quam intelligentia accipitur, cognoscitur, creditur. Hoc illud est quod diximus vivere vel vivit, illud infinitum, illud quod supra universalium omnium vivere est ipsum esse, ipsum vivere, non aut aliquid esse, aut aliquid vivere, unde nec ov. Certum enim etiam quiddam est ov, intelligibile, cognoscibile. Ergo si non Sv, nec λόγος, λόγος enim definitus est, et definitor: sive enim est ratio, sive existentiae ipsius potentia, sive res illae quas intelligentia accipit, ut uniuscujusque fit et esse: cognoscat quod non cognoscit, nisi animadvertat et capiat quae sint illa, quae praestant unicuique substantiam: et hic λόγος rerum per quem creata sunt omnia, universalis potentia, continens universaliter omnium res, praestans ad existentiam unicuique sua et propria. Ergo quia sua unicuique et propria praestat, defluit et determinat, etiam illud 0v facit. Imponendo enim infinito terminum rebus ad existentiam sui unicuique format rem, et intelligentiam infinitate sublata subjicit. Est ergo in eo quod rerum est potentia ad pariendas efficiendasque existentias λόγος: ex eo autem quod definit, atque concludit unumquodque formam tribuens, Sv, est jam existens, cum fuerit ejus quod est esse certa forma.
These things we have set out thoroughly and fully in other books; but now we shall state them summarily and briefly. Before the existent and before the Logos there is that force and power of existing which is signified by the word “to be”, in Greek to einai. This being is to be taken in two ways. In one, it is universal and principally principal, from which being comes to be in the other things; in the other, being is, for the other things, that which is, for all that come after, whether genera or species, and others of this kind. But the first being is so unparticipated that it cannot be called one or alone, but, by pre-eminence, it is before the one and before the alone, beyond simplicity, pre-existence rather than existence, the universal of all universals, infinite and unbounded, but for all others, not for itself. And therefore it is heard without form by a certain understanding, and is received, known and believed by pre-understanding rather than by understanding. This is what we have called living, or “lives”: that infinite one, which above the living of all universals is being itself, living itself; not being something or living something; and so not even the existent. For the existent is something definite, intelligible and knowable. If, then, it is not the existent, neither is it the Logos; for the Logos is defined and defining: whether it is reason, or the power of existence itself, or those things which understanding grasps so that it becomes the being of each; for it knows what it does not know only when it notices and grasps what those things are which provide substance to each. And this is the Logos of things through which all things were created, the universal power, containing universally the things of all, providing to each its own and proper existence. Because it provides to each what is its own and proper, it flows down and determines, and makes that existent too. For by imposing a limit on the infinite, it forms each thing for its existence, and, when infinity has been removed, places it under understanding. In that it is the power of things for bringing forth and effecting existences, then, it is the Logos; and in that it defines and encloses each thing, giving it form, it is the existent, now existing, since it has become the definite form of that which is being.
John 1:3 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus distinguishes the first, unparticipated being of God, infinite and beyond even the existent, from the Logos, which defines and forms each thing so that it becomes an existent.
- Greek terms: τὸ εἶναι (to be), ὄν (the existent), λόγος (Logos, here kept as a technical term).
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.19 (PL 8:1127a–1127d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.20PL 8:1127d–1128b
Hoc cum ita sit, videamus an nullius primi, quod est esse, sit λόγος. Si dicimus infinitum, si dicimus immensum, indiscretum, res quibus esse consistit non capimus, non tenemus: ergo λόγος ejus nullus est. Sed quoniam fieri non potest, ut sit quoquo modo et sine λόγω suo sit hoc ipsum existens quod est, infinitus est, sine dubio ei λόγος suus est, sed latitans, et occultus, ut sit in eo quod est esse ipsum λόγον esse; vel potius ipsum λόγος nihil aliud est, quam ipsum esse: hoc autem est quod dixi vere primum, illud et universaliter universale vivere, quamquam, ut docuimus, sit ipsum vivere, et vita, et intelligentia definita: nam potentiae τού λόγου; etenim definitum quidnam atque formatum est: intelligentia vero et definiens: tamen quia ista intus sunt, et in se conversa sunt, omnia αγνωοτα, o&tocxptret, incognita et indiscreta sunt: ita et Deus quod est esse, id est, vivere, incognitus et indiscretus est; et ejus forma, id est, vitae intelligentia, incognita et indiscreta est: sunt enim ista nihil aliud quam esse, quod est vivere. Quod cum infinitum, et forma ejus infinita est, ibi manens, et nihil aliud quam esse existens. Cum autem foris esse coeperit, tunc forma apparens imago Dei est, Deum per semel ostendens; et est λόγος, non jam inde προς τόνθ«όν λόγος, in qua vita et intelligentia, jam ov: quia certa cognitio et existentia, quae intellectu et cognitione capitur: sed quemadmodum foris exstiterunt ista, et utrum ipsa forma, quae intus est emissa, foras est, an se ipsum ejecit? sed cum illa intus forma indiscreta et infinita sit, quomodo et in ea quae foris est, illa cognoscitur, an alia est haec? sed si alia, non ergo ab illa nata vel emissione, vel sua motione: et si ita ut alia non pars, nec eadem nec omnino ομοούσιος, et deinde unde haec apparuit?
This being so, let us see whether there is no Logos of the first, which is being. If we call it infinite, immense, indistinct, we do not grasp or hold the things in which its being consists: so it has no Logos. But since it cannot be that this very existent, which is, should be in any way without its Logos (though it is infinite), it certainly has its own Logos, but lying hidden and secret, so that in that which is being the Logos itself is; or rather the Logos itself is nothing other than being itself. And this is what I called truly first, that universally universal living; although, as we taught, living itself, life and understanding are defined, for they are powers of the Logos, and the Logos is something defined and formed, and understanding is also defining. Yet because these are within and turned in upon themselves, all are unknown and indistinct. So God too, what being is, that is, living, is unknown and indistinct; and his form, that is, life and understanding, is unknown and indistinct; for these are nothing other than being, which is living. And since this is infinite, its form too is infinite, remaining there and existing as nothing other than being. But when it began to be outside, then the form that appears is the image of God, showing God through itself; and it is the Logos, no longer the Logos “toward God” there within, in which life and understanding are now the existent, because it is definite knowledge and existence, grasped by understanding and knowledge. But how did these come to exist outside? Was the form that is within sent out, or did it cast itself out? And since the inner form is indistinct and infinite, how is it known also in the form that is outside? Or is this another? But if it is another, then it was not born from that one, either by emission or by its own motion; and if it is so other, it is not a part, nor the same, nor homoousios at all; and then from where did it appear?
John 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:15 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus argues that God's first being has its own hidden Logos, identical with being itself, and asks how this inner form came to appear outwardly as the image of God without becoming something other.
- Greek terms (garbled in the digital text): ἄγνωστα, ἀδιάκριτα (unknown, indistinct), πρὸς τὸν θεόν (toward God, John 1:1).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; uncertain characters in the digital text): sed latitans, et occultos → sed latitans, et occultus; in qua vita (??)et intelligentia → in qua vita et intelligentia.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.20 (PL 8:1127d–1128b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.21PL 8:1128b–1128d
De altero ergo duo principia, an de nihilo? nihilum non est sub Deo τών όντων. Deinde si Dei potentia vel voluntate exstitit, non est nihilum Dei potentia vel voluntas. Etenim si omnipotens Deus, omnipotentia ejus et causa omnibus, et ipsa existentia est. Num ergo quod reliquum est dicere audemus, a se orta haec forma est? et quomodo cum esset in patre, inscio patre, an jubente? si jubente, non ergo a se: an insciente? est ergo aliquid quod non potentia Dei fuit, aut est quod sine illo fuit, cum de λόγω qui ejus dicitur forma, ita dictum sit: Per quem facta sunt omnia et sine quo factum est nihil. Quid istud est? tantarum confusionum quae separatio? quae si non veritas vel vita est veritatis. Adsit Spiritus sanctus: quid inspiratum nobis sit, modo auditor attendat, pura exponentes simplicitate pandemus. Interea unum moneo, sine tempore haec accipi convenire, ex aeterno semper nullo temporis principio, sed ut sit unum utrumque principium et generator et genitum. Primum in rebus aeternis, divinis maximeque primis manentia quieta, et in eo quo sunt existentia, nulla sui per motum mutatione generarunt. Primus Deus, deinde λόγος, vel νους, vel quidquid alter est, vel uterque, ut spiritus, ut vivere, vel vita, ut intelligentia, vel cognoscentia: anima vero sola mota generationes habet. Haec omnia sic damus: τρώύναμος est Deus, id est, tres potentias habens, esse, vivere, intelligere: ita ut in singulis tria sint, sitque ipse unum quodlibet trium nomen quo se praestat accipiens, ut supra docui, et iis multis: nihil enim esse dicendum, nisi quod intelligit. Triplex igitur in singulis singularitas, et unalitas in Trinitate: ista vero tria progressu suo exponemus.
From another, then, so that there are two principles? Or from nothing? But nothing is not among the existents under God. Next, if it came to exist by God's power or will, God's power or will is not nothing. For if God is almighty, his omnipotence is both the cause of all things and existence itself. Do we dare, then, to say what remains: that this form arose from itself? And how, since it was in the Father? Without the Father's knowledge, or at his command? If at his command, then not from itself. Or without his knowledge? Then there is something that was not by God's power, or something that was without him; yet of the Word, who is called his form, it is said: “Through whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made.” What is this? What separating of such great confusions? Which, if not the truth, or the life of truth? May the Holy Spirit be present: what has been breathed into us, if only the hearer attends, we shall lay open, expounding it with pure simplicity. Meanwhile I give one warning: these things must be taken without time, always, from eternity, with no beginning in time, but so that both, the begetter and the begotten, are one principle. First, in eternal and divine things, and above all in the first things, remaining at rest and existing in what they are, they begot with no change of themselves through motion: first God, then the Word or Intellect, or whatever the other is, or both, as spirit, as living or life, as understanding or knowledge; only the soul, being moved, has generations. All these I set out thus. God is triple-powered, that is, having three powers: being, living, understanding; so that in each there are three, and he himself is any one of the three, taking the name of the one in which he stands out, as I taught above and in many places; for nothing is to be said to be except what understands. There is, then, a threefold singularity in each and a oneness in the Trinity; and these three we shall set out in their progression.
John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus rejects the alternatives that the Son's form came from another, from nothing, or from itself, and prepares to explain, outside time, how God as triple power of being, living and understanding begets without change.
- “Triple-powered” renders τριδύναμος, garbled in the digital text; “Intellect” renders νοῦς.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): ita dictam sit → ita dictum sit; Hac omnia sic domus → Haec omnia sic damus.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.21 (PL 8:1128b–1128d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.22PL 8:1128d–1129b
Omnium quae sunt, quaeque esse possunt, aut esse potuerunt, existentiam, vitam, intelligen– tiamque pro rerum ac substantiarum captu, et participationes praestant, sortita sunt: est enim in omnibus esse suum, vivere suum, intelligere suum, suumque sentire, ut sint ista umbra vel imago trium omnium superiorum; ergo Deus cum sit, ut ab omnibus dicitur, unum, et solum unum. Nonnulli autem dixerunt Deum esse unum omnia, et nec unum; omnium enim principium, unde non omnia sed illo modo omnia. Istud autem hac de causa et primum quidem Deum esse unum et solum. illa tria, quia non copulatione consistunt, sed existendo quod sum ipso, et quod alterum credimus sunt, necessario unum, nec ullo modo alterum. Sed de hoc saepe dictum. Quod vero dictum unum omnia, et nec unum, omnium enim principium, satis aperte dilucideque declarat, patrem rerum omnium et principium Deum: qui cum unum non est, magis omnia est: quia et omnium caussa est atque principium, et in omnibus omnia. Quae cum ita sint, et it Deus omnia, existens, omnivivens, omnividens, et omniintelligens. Et quoniam diximus, confici ab actu potentiam; sic enim se prima habent, ut cum sint omnia a divina energia, id est actus, et operationes; necessarium est, ut a Deo principio omnium potentiarum, universaliter universalium fons et origo nascatur. Iste namque rerum progressus est, ut cum omnia a Deo, potentiae et actus a Deo, qui supra potentias et actus accipitur, orta haec esse credantur.
All things that are, and that can be or could have been, have received existence, life and understanding according to the capacity of things and substances and the sharing that these three provide. For in all there is their own being, their own living, their own understanding and their own sensing, so that these are a shadow or image of the three higher ones. God, then, is, as all say, one, and only one. But some have said that God is one all and not one; for he is the principle of all, and so not all things, but all things in that way. This is so for this reason; and first, that God is one and alone. Those three, because they do not consist by coupling but by existing as what he himself is, and as what we believe to be other, are necessarily one and in no way other. But of this much has been said. And what was said, “one all and not one, for he is the principle of all”, declares clearly and plainly that God is the Father and principle of all things; who, since he is not one, is rather all, because he is the cause and principle of all, and all in all. Since these things are so, God is also all things: existing, all-living, all-seeing and all-understanding. And since we said that power is completed by act (for so the first things are, since all things are from divine energy, that is, from acts and operations), it is necessary that from God, the principle of all powers, the fountain and origin of the universally universal things should be born. For this is the progression of things: since all things are from God, powers and acts from God, who is understood to be above powers and acts, these are believed to have arisen from him.
1 Cor 15:28 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that all creatures share in being, living and understanding as images of the higher three, and that God, “one all and not one”, is the principle from whom all powers and acts arise.
- The saying that God is “one all and not one” resembles Plotinus, Enneads 5.2.1 (“the One is all things and not one of them”). “Energy” renders ἐνέργεια.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; word split at line end): hac de canssa → hac de causa; aperte dilncideque → aperte dilucideque; et prin– cipium Deum → et principium Deum; Quae cum ita sum, → Quae cum ita sint,; habent, m cum sint → habent, ut cum sint; oria haec esse → orta haec esse.
Extrabiblical texts: Plotinus, Enn. 5.2.1 (Plotinus, Enneads; echo)
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.22 (PL 8:1128d–1129b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.23PL 8:1129b–1130a
Verum cum a nobis dictum sit Deum actum quemdam esse, quod est vivere, sed hoc vivere quod supra omne est vivere, et ex aeterno, atque in aeternum, vivere simul intellectu acceptis, et eo quod est esse, et eo quod intelligere, sed sic simul, ut ne phantasia quidem copulationis sit: necessario autem vivendi actu, uti docui, confitetur atque exsistit forma quam universalem potentiam nominamus, per singula illa formata, quam ex omni exsistentia, ex omniviventi omniviventia, ex omnividenti omnividentia. Haec singula potentiae ut nota et determinata: Sed cum in uno omnia, vel unum omnia, aut cum unum omnia, vel nec unum, nec omnia, fit infinitum, fit incognitum, indiscernibile, incognoscibile, et quod vere dicitur άοριστία, id est, infinitas, et indeterminatio. Etenim omnium esse sit, et omnium vivere et omnium intelligere, et id unum, et sine phantasia alterius unum: unde nec unum, quia omnium principium: unde et ipsius unius. Ex hoc cogimur jam necessario et illa de Deo dicere, ut ejus incomprehensibile sit et esse, et vivere, et intelligere, nec solum ut incomprehensibile ejus sit esse, vivere et intelligere; ut nec esse quidem ista videantur quod ille supra omnia sit: quare et άνύπαρζτο;, et ανούσιο;, et «vou;, et ίξων, sine existentia, sine substantia, sine intelligentia, sine vita dicitur: non quidem per στ«ρησιν, id est, non per privationem, sed per supralationem; omnia enim quae voces nominant, post ipsum sunt: unde nec ov, sed magis προο'ν. Eodem modo prae existentia, praevidentia, praecognoscentia horum quae conficiuntur: Ipse autem praeexsistens, praevidens, praecognoscens: sed haec omnia apparentibus secundis et intellecta sunt, et nominata. Postquam enim apparuit cognoscentia, et intellecta et appellata est praecognoscentia; eodem modo et praexistentia, et praeviventia. Erant quidem haec, sed nondum animadversa, nondum nominata. Unde et incognoscibile omne quod Deus est. Sed quoniam tunc cognoscibile et habetur et dicitur, cum est cognoscentia: relativa sunt enim et se invicem tenent et pariunt, aut invicem interimunt, nondum cognoscibile illud non fuit, quia non fuit cognoscentia. Non quo non fuit illud, quod cognoscibile sibi fecit cognoscentia; sed quia erat quidem quod cognoscibile esse posset, non quo cognoscibile esset: quod tunc fit et accipitur, cum adintelligitur quod et intelligentia esse possit. Hoc modo igitur et in Deo, et esse poterat, et erat ex hoc cognoscibile; quia et esse poterat, ex hoc erat cognoscentia.
But since we have said that God is a certain act, which is living, but that living which is above all living, from eternity and to eternity, living being taken together with that which is being and that which is understanding, but together in such a way that there is not even the imagination of a coupling: necessarily, by the act of living, as I taught, there is completed and comes to exist the form which we call the universal power, formed through those single ones: from the all-existing, all-existence; from the all-living, all-livingness; from the all-seeing, all-seeingness. These single powers are as known and determined. But when all are in one, or one is all, or when one is all, or neither one nor all, it becomes infinite, unknown, indiscernible, unknowable, and what is truly called aoristia, that is, infinity and indetermination. For it is the being of all, the living of all and the understanding of all, and it is one, and one without the imagination of another; hence not even one, because it is the principle of all, and so also of the one itself. From this we are now necessarily compelled to say these things also of God: that his being, living and understanding are incomprehensible; and not only that they are incomprehensible, but that they do not even seem to be what he is, who is above all. Therefore he is called without existence, without substance, without intellect, without life: not by privation, but by supereminence; for all things that words name come after him. Hence he is not the existent, but rather the pre-existent. In the same way there is a pre-existence, a pre-vision and a pre-knowledge of the things that are made; he himself is pre-existing, pre-seeing, pre-knowing. But all these were understood and named only when the second things appeared. For after knowledge appeared, pre-knowledge was understood and named; in the same way pre-existence and pre-living. These indeed existed, but were not yet noticed, not yet named. Hence all that God is, is unknowable. But since the knowable is had and spoken of when there is knowledge (for they are relative, and hold and beget each other, or destroy each other), that knowable was not yet knowable, because there was no knowledge. Not that what knowledge made knowable to itself did not exist; but it was indeed what could be knowable, not yet such as to be known; and that happens and is received when it is further understood that there can also be understanding. In this way, then, in God too, it both could be and was, and from this it was knowable; because it could also be, from this there was knowledge.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that God is called without existence, substance, intellect and life not by privation but by supereminence, being the pre-existent, unknowable until knowledge, the Son, appeared.
- Greek terms (garbled in the digital text): ἀοριστία (indetermination), ἀνύπαρκτος, ἀνούσιος, ἄνους, ἄζων (without existence, substance, intellect, life), στέρησις (privation), προόν (pre-existent).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and joined words; word split at line end): potentiae ut nola → potentiae ut nota; quod iliesupra omnia → quod ille supra omnia; voces nomi– nant → voces nominant.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.23 (PL 8:1129b–1130a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-23
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).