Recognitions 7.37–8.20
Pseudonymous: A Christian romance in the voice of Clement of Rome, who tells how he found Christ, followed Peter, and was reunited with his lost family (the 'recognitions'). It is not a work of Clement. It survives complete only in Rufinus of Aquileia's Latin translation; the Greek original is lost (fragments in Eusebius and Origen's Philocalia, and a Syriac version of parts). It shares a source with the Greek Clementine Homilies (the hypothetical 'Grundschrift', probably 3rd-century Syria), and the Recognitions are usually dated to the 4th century in their Greek form. Rufinus's preface to Bishop Gaudentius is reference 0.1.
Latin text: Migne, PG 1 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Graeca vol. 1 (1857), transcribed from library-scan OCR of the printed volume).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 8 (1886).
Chapter 7
7.37PG 1:1369b–1370b
Tum Petrus: Non nos, inquit, vincat malignus occasione accepta per affectum matris, sed magis vos et ego vobiscum hodie jejunemus cum ipsa, et crastino baptizabitur; neque enim justum est ad gratiam persona: alicujus et amicitiae, resolvi et extenuari praecepta veritatis. Non ergo pigeat nos magis laborare eum illa, quia omne mandatum praeterire peccatum est. Doceamus autem sensus nostros corporales qui extrinsecus sunt, servire interioribus sensibus, et non interiores sensus, qui quae Dei sunt sapiunt, cogamus sequi exteriores, qui quae carnis sunt sapiunt. Propter hoc“ enim et Dominus mandatum dedit, dicens: Quicunque viderit mulierem ad concupiscendam eam, jam moechatus est eam in corde suo. Et his addidit: Si oculus tuus dexter scandalizat te, erue eum et abjice abs te; expedit enim tibi ut unum membrorum tuorum pereat, quam totum corpus tuum mittatur in gehennam ignis. Non dixit: scandalizavit te, ut posteaquam peccaveris tunc abjicias causam peccati, sed: si scandalizat te, hoc est, ut antequam pecces, causam peccati provocantis te et irritantis abscidas. Nequis autem vestrum putet, fratres, quod membrorum amputationem mandaverit Dominus: propositum in hoc vult resecari, non membra et causas quae ad peccandum illiciunt, quo cogitatio nostra aspectus vehiculo subvecta, ad amorem Dei sensibus corporeis invisa contendat. nec carnalibus oculis, velut lascivientibus equis et extra mandatorum viam currum declinare cupientibus, relaxet frena et habenas indulgeat; sed revocet aspectum corporis ad arbitrium mentis, et oculos nostros quos Deus operis sui inspectores esse voluit et testes, non patiatur fieri lenones mali desiderii. Et ideo cedant legi Dei tam corporei sensus quam interna cogitatio, et illius voluntati ministrent cujus se opera esse intelligunt.
Then Peter said: “Let not the evil one overcome us, seizing the occasion through affection for your mother; rather, let you and I with you fast today along with her, and tomorrow she will be baptized. For it is not right that the precepts of truth be relaxed and weakened for the sake of anyone's person and friendship. So let us not be reluctant to labor more with her, because to pass over any commandment is sin. Let us teach our bodily senses, which are outward, to serve the inward senses, and not compel the inward senses, which savor the things of God, to follow the outward ones, which savor the things of the flesh. For this reason the Lord also gave a commandment, saying: ‘Whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.’ And to this he added: ‘If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is better for you that one of your members perish than that your whole body be thrown into the gehenna of fire.’ He did not say ‘has caused you to stumble,’ as though you should cast away the cause of sin after you have sinned, but ‘if it causes you to stumble,’ that is, so that before you sin you may cut off the cause of the sin that provokes and incites you. But let none of you think, brothers, that the Lord commanded the cutting off of members. He wishes the purpose to be cut off, not the members—and the causes that entice to sin—so that our thought, carried on the vehicle of sight, may strive toward the love of God, unseen by the bodily senses, and may not slacken the reins and give free rein to the carnal eyes, like wanton horses eager to turn the chariot aside from the way of the commandments; but may call back the sight of the body to the judgment of the mind, and not allow our eyes, which God willed to be the observers and witnesses of his work, to become the panders of evil desire. And so let both the bodily senses and the inner thought yield to the law of God, and serve the will of him whose work they understand themselves to be.”
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Matt 5:28 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:5 (echo, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Peter insists that all fast one day before Mattidia's baptism, and explains Christ's saying about plucking out the eye as cutting off the purpose and causes of sin, not limbs.
- Matt 5:28–29 (Matt 18:9). Romans 8:5 on minding the things of the Spirit and of the flesh. “Unseen by the bodily senses” renders the printed “invisa”, which may be a corruption (perhaps “invecta”, “borne by”).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join): per afl‘ectum → per affectum; etnon interiores → et non interiores; jam minitatus est → jam moechatus est; abjicc abs te → abjice abs te; mandaveritpominus: propositum tn hoc → mandaverit Dominus: propositum in hoc; mentis,et oculos → mentis, et oculos; voluitet testes → voluit et testes.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 7.37 (PG 1:1369b–1370b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-7-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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7.38PG 1:1370b–1372a
Igitur ut ordo mysterii poscebat et ratio, die postera baptizatur in mari, et regressa ad hospitium omnibus consequenter mysteriis religionis imbuitur. Aderamus autem et nos filii sui, Niceta et Aquila et ego Clemens. Et post haec simul cum ea prandimus, et simul glorificavimus Deum, referentes gratias studiis et doctrinae Petri, qui nobis ostendit per occasionem matris, quomodo pudicitia: bonum non pereat apud Deum, sicut econtrario impudicitia, inquit, etiamsi non statim, tamen licet tarde non effugit poenam. In tantum autem pudicitia, inquit, Deo placita est, ut etiam his qui in errore sunt positi, nonnihil gratiae in praesenti conferat vita. Nam futura beatitudo illis solum reposita est, qui per gratiam baptismi pudicitiam justitiamque servaverint. Denique exemplo est huic rei etiam hoc, quod erga matrem vestram gestum cst, cui salus haec omnis pro mercede pudicitiae reparata est, ad quam custodiendam et conservandam non sufficit sola continentia, sed ubi senserit quis insidias et deceptionem parari, continuo sicut ab ignis impetu aut incursu canis rabidi refugiat, nec confidat quod hujusmodi insidias possit facile aliquis philosophando aut palpando cohibere; sed, ut dixi, effugiendum est et longe abscedendum, sicut fecit et vestra mater vere et integre bonum diligens pudicitiae. Propter quod et conservata vobis est ac vos illi, insuper autem et aeternae vitae agnitione donata. Cum hazc et multa alia his similia dixisset, vespere facto requievimus.
So, as the order and reason of the mystery required, on the following day she was baptized in the sea, and, returning to the lodging, she was instructed in turn in all the mysteries of religion. We her sons were present, Niceta and Aquila and I, Clement. After this we dined with her and together glorified God, giving thanks for the zeal and teaching of Peter, who showed us, on the occasion of our mother, how the good of chastity does not perish before God; “just as, on the contrary,” he said, “unchastity, even if not at once, nevertheless, though late, does not escape punishment. So pleasing to God,” he said, “is chastity, that it confers some grace in the present life even on those who are in error. For future blessedness is reserved only for those who through the grace of baptism have kept chastity and justice. Indeed what was done for your mother is an example of this: all this salvation has been restored to her as the reward of chastity. To guard and preserve it, continence alone is not enough; but when someone perceives that snares and deception are being prepared, let him flee at once as from the onrush of fire or the attack of a mad dog, and not trust that anyone can easily restrain snares of this kind by philosophizing or by coaxing. Rather, as I said, one must flee and go far away, as your mother did, truly and wholly loving the good of chastity. For this reason she was preserved for you and you for her, and besides she has been given the knowledge of eternal life.” When he had said these and many other similar things, evening came and we rested.
1 Cor 6:18 (echo, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Mattidia is baptized in the sea and dines with her sons, and Peter teaches that chastity is rewarded and must be guarded by flight from temptation.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR, stray mark; book heading of the edition in the text): lilii sui, ΝΞ·ceta → filii sui, Niceta; non eITugit pmnam → non effugit poenam; refugiat, ι) nec conlidat → refugiat, nec confidat; ellugicndum → effugiendum; Pr0pter quod et conservata vo-. bis → Propter quod et conservata vobis; arterna: → aeternae; W OCTAVUS. → .
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 7.38 (PG 1:1370b–1372a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-7-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 8
8.1PG 1:1371a–1371b
Postera autem die Petrus mane assumptis fratribus meis et me, descendit ad portum, ut in mari lavaremus, et post boc ad locum quemdam secretiorem secessimus orationis gratia. Senex autem quidam pauper, et ut apparebat ex habitu operarius. curiose ex occulto observare nos coepit, ut videret quid ageremus in secreto positi. Cumque nos orantes vidisset, exspectavit donec exiremus, et salutans nos ait: Si non aegre accipitis, et quasi curiosum me aut importunum notatis, velim vobiscum conferre sermonem, quia habens miserationem vestri, sub specie veritatis errare vos nollem et habere metum de bis quae non sunt; aut si putatis esse aliquid veri, tradite etiam mihi. Si ergo patienter accipitis, possum vos paucis edocere quae recta sunt; si vero molestum, pergam et meos actus agam. Cui Petrus respondit: Dic age quod tibi videtur bonum, et libenter accipimus sive id verum sive etiam falsum sit; amplectendus enim es, quia quod tibi bonum videtur, tanquam pater pro filiis sollicitus commonere voluisti.
On the next day, early in the morning, Peter took my brothers and me and went down to the harbor so that we might bathe in the sea, and after this we withdrew to a more secluded place to pray. A certain poor old man, a workman as appeared from his dress, began to watch us curiously from hiding, to see what we were doing in that secluded place. When he had seen us praying, he waited until we came out, and greeting us said: “If you do not take it ill and do not mark me as inquisitive or intrusive, I should like to have a word with you. For I pity you, and would not want you to go astray under the appearance of truth and to be afraid of things that do not exist; or if you think there is something true in them, pass it on to me as well. If, then, you will take it patiently, I can teach you in a few words what is right; but if it is troublesome, I will go on and do my own business.” Peter answered him: “Come, say what seems good to you, and we will gladly receive it, whether it is true or false. For you are to be embraced, because, like a father anxious for his sons, you have wished to warn us of what seems good to you.”
Notes and citation
Summary: After the morning bath and prayer, a poor old workman who has watched them offers to correct what he thinks is their error, and Peter welcomes him.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): l'ratribus → fratribus; descenditad portum, ut inmarl → descendit ad portum, ut in mari; cmpit, ut videret → coepit, ut videret; regre accipitis → aegre accipitis; edoecre → edocere; tncos actus → meos actus; [iliis sollicitus connnonere → filiis sollicitus commonere.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.1 (PG 1:1371a–1371b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.2PG 1:1371b
Tum senior coepit dicere: In mari vos lavisse vidi, et post hoc ad secretum secessisse locum; observans ergo de occulto quid in secreto ageretis, orantes inspexi; miseratus igitur errorem vestrum, opperiri coepi, usquequo egressos alloquerer et docerem, ne erretis in hujusmodi observantia, quia neque Deus est neque cultus hic aliquis est, neque providentia in mundo, sed fortuitus casus et genesis agunt omnia, sicut ego ex meipso manifestissime comperi in disciplina matheseos pra: caeteris eruditus. Nolite ergo errare; sive enim oretis, sive non oretis, quod genesis vestra continet, hoc erit vobis. Et ego Clemens nescio quid corde pulsabar, multa quasi nota mihi recolens in eo; bene enim ait quidam. quia quod ex aliquo natum est, etiamsi multo tempore abfuerit, nunquam tamen scintilla propinquitatis exstinguitur. Coepi ergo interrogare ab eo, quis et unde esset, vel quomodo ortus. At ille ad haec respondere nolens: Quid, ait, hoc pertinet ad ea quae dixi vobis? Sed primo, si videtur, sermo de his quae proposuimus habeatur, et post haec si ita res poposcerit, nomen et genus ac patriam et caetera quae haec sequuntur, invicem nobis ut amici amicis poterimus aperire. Mirabamur tamen omnes eloquentiam viri, et gravitatem morum tranquillitatemque sermonis.
Then the old man began to say: “I saw you bathing in the sea, and after that withdrawing to a secluded place. So, watching from hiding what you were doing in secret, I saw you praying. Pitying your error, I began to wait until I could speak to you when you came out and teach you not to go astray in an observance of this kind. For there is neither God nor any worship, nor providence in the world, but chance and birth-fate do everything, as I have found out most clearly from my own case, being trained above others in the discipline of astrology. Do not go astray, then; for whether you pray or do not pray, what your birth-fate holds, this will happen to you.” And I, Clement, was somehow stirred in heart, recalling many things in him as if familiar to me. For someone has well said that what is born of another, even if it has been away for a long time, yet the spark of kinship is never extinguished. So I began to ask him who he was and where he came from, or how he was born. But he, unwilling to answer this, said: “What has this to do with what I said to you? But first, if you please, let us have the discussion on what we proposed; and after that, if the matter requires, we can disclose to one another as friends to friends our name and family and country and the rest that follows.” Yet we all admired the man's eloquence, and the gravity of his bearing and the calmness of his speech.
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Summary: The old man declares that there is no God or providence but only chance and birth-fate, which he knows from astrology, and Clement feels strangely drawn to him.
- “Birth-fate (astrology)” renders genesis, the horoscope fixed at birth.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR (Greek letters for Latin)): senior cwpit → senior coepit; opperiri cmpi → opperiri coepi; bujusmodi → hujusmodi; Inanil'estissime → manifestissime; Σαξρί ergo → Coepi ergo; post bmc → post haec; amiei amicis → amici amicis.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.2 (PG 1:1371b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.3PG 1:1371b–1372b
Petrus autem sensim sermocinando incedens, opportunum ad colloquendum prospicit locum. Et cum pervidisset juxta portum recessum quemdam secretum, residere nos fecit, et ita primus ipse incipit, nec contemptum senis habuit, neque despexit quod vilis ei amictus esset et sordidus. Ait ergo: Quoniam quidem videris mihi vir eruditus esse et misericors ex eo quod adisti nos. et quod tibi bonum videbatur celatum nobis esse noluisti, volumus et nos tibi quae nobis bona et recta creduntur exponere, quae si tibi minus vera videbuntur, etiam tu nostrum erga te bonum propositum libenter suscipe, sicut et nos tuum. Et cum haec diceret Petrus, plurima multitudo convenit. Tum senex: Fortassis, inquit, contristat vos praesentia multitudinis. Et Petrus: Nequaquam, inquit, nisi hoc solum vereor. ne forte disputantibus nobis cum palam facta fuerit veritas tu verecundiam patiaris pro praesentia multitudinis cedere et acquiescere his quae vera dici intellexeris. Ad haec senex ait: Ego non ita stultus consenui, ut intelligens quod verum est, abnuam id ad vulgi gratiam.
Peter, walking slowly as we talked, looked out for a suitable place for conversation. When he had found a secluded recess near the harbor, he had us sit down, and so he himself began first; nor did he treat the old man with contempt or look down on him because his clothing was cheap and dirty. He said: “Since you seem to me to be a learned man and a kind one, in that you came to us and did not want to hide from us what seemed good to you, we too wish to set out for you what we believe good and right. If it seems to you less true, accept our good intention toward you gladly, as we accept yours.” While Peter was saying this, a very great crowd gathered. Then the old man said: “Perhaps the presence of the crowd troubles you.” Peter said: “Not at all, except that I fear this alone: that perhaps, when in our discussion the truth has been made plain, you may feel ashamed, because of the presence of the crowd, to yield and assent to what you have understood to be said truly.” To this the old man said: “I have not grown old so foolish as to refuse what I understand to be true for the sake of popular favor.”
Notes and citation
Summary: Peter treats the poor old man with respect and agrees to a discussion before the gathering crowd, and the old man promises to yield to the truth.
- A Scripture reference of the edition printed in the text has been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; editor's footnote leaked into the text): pri- δι ) Matth. ν, M, ν ο mus → primus; pra:sentia → praesentia; ne torte → ne forte; pa. tiaris pro prazsentia → patiaris pro praesentia; acquiee scere → acquiescere.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.3 (PG 1:1371b–1372b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.4PG 1:1372b
Coepit ergo Petrus dicere: Videntur mihi hi, qui loquuntur verbum veritatis et qui illuminant animas hominum, similes esse radiis solis, qui ut processerint et apparuerint mundo, celari ultra aut occultari nullatenus possunt, dum non tam videntur ab hominibus, quam videre omnibus praestant. Unde et bene a quodam dictum est ad veritatis praecones: Vos estis lux mundi, et non potest civitas abscondi supra montem posita, neque accendunt lucernam et ponunt eam sub modio, sed super candelabrum ut omnibus luceat qui in domo sunt“. Et senex: Bene valde dixit, quisquis ille est. Sed exponat aliquis vestrum, quod sibi sequendum videtur. ut ad certum prospectum emittamus sermones nostros. Non enim sufficit ad inveniendam veritatem destruere ea, quae e diverso dicuntur, sed et ipsum proferre in medium, quod possit qui e diverso est impugnare. Ut ergo partium sit aequa congressio, rectum mihi videtur ut prius, quid uterque nostrum defendat, enuntiet; et si placet, ipse primus incipiam. Ego dico, non secundum Dei providentiam gubernari mundum, quia multa in eo injuste et inordinate geri videmus, sed genesim dico esse, quae omnia agit et continet.
So Peter began to say: “Those who speak the word of truth and enlighten the souls of men seem to me like the rays of the sun, which, once they have gone forth and appeared to the world, can no longer be concealed or hidden in any way, since they are not so much seen by men as they enable all to see. Hence it was well said by someone to the heralds of truth: ‘You are the light of the world, and a city set on a hill cannot be hidden; nor do they light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a lampstand, so that it may give light to all who are in the house.’” The old man said: “Whoever he is, he spoke very well. But let one of you set out what he thinks must be followed, so that we may direct our speeches toward a definite goal. For to find the truth it is not enough to destroy what is said on the other side; one must also bring forward oneself something that the opponent can attack. So that the contest of the parties may be equal, it seems right to me that each of us first state what he defends; and, if you please, I will begin first. I say that the world is not governed according to the providence of God, because we see many things done in it unjustly and without order; but I say it is birth-fate that does and holds all things.”
Matt 5:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:15 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Peter compares heralds of truth to sunlight, quoting Christ, and the old man proposes that each side state its thesis, asserting that birth-fate, not providence, rules the world.
- Matt 5:14–15.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): qnam videre → quam videre; przecones → praecones; cicitas abscondi → civitas abscondi; vestrnm → vestrum; sulIicit → sufficit.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.4 (PG 1:1372b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.5PG 1:1372b–1373b
Ad haec cum Petrus respondere vellet, Niceta praeveniens ait: Indulgeat mihi dominus meus Petrus ad haec respondere, et non videatur protervum quod juvenis cum sene conflictum habeam, sed ut filius cum patre colloquar. Et senex: Non solum tu, inquit, fili, quod tibi videtur ut prosequaris volo, sed et si qui ex sodalibus tuis, si qui etiam de astantibus videtur scire aliquid, incunctanter proferat, libenter accipimus; collatio enim plurimorum facilius ea quae ignorantur inveniet “. Tum ergo Niceta respondit: Non me aestimes, Pater, temere fecisse, quod inserui me sermonibus domini mei Petri. sed magis pro honore ejus hoc mihi facere visus sum. Homo enim Dei est, plenus totius scientiae, quem ne Graeca quidem latet eruditio, quia Spiritu Dei repletus est quem nihil latet. Sed quia ipsi de coelestibus loqui convenit, ego de his quae ad Graecorum loquacitatem pertinent, respondebo. Postea vero quam a nobis Graecorum more fuerit disputatum, atque ad id ventum, ubi exitus nullus appareat, tunc ipse quasi scientia Dei repletus, aperte et dilucide rerum nobis omnium patefaciet veritatem, ut non solum nos, sed et omnes qui praesto sunt auditores, viam veritatis agnoscant. Et ideo nunc ipse quasi arbiter sedeat, ut cum unus aliquis ex nobis cesserit, tunc ipse suscipiens indubitatam sententiam ferat.
When Peter wished to answer this, Niceta forestalled him and said: “Let my lord Peter allow me to answer this, and let it not seem impudent that I, a young man, should have a contest with an old one; rather, let me converse as a son with a father.” The old man said: “Not only do I wish you, my son, to pursue what you think, but also if any of your companions, or any of the bystanders, seems to know something, let him bring it forward without hesitation; we will gladly receive it. For the comparing of many views will more easily find what is not known.” Then Niceta answered: “Do not think, father, that I acted rashly in putting myself into the discourse of my lord Peter; rather I thought I was doing this out of respect for him. For he is a man of God, full of all knowledge, from whom not even Greek learning is hidden, because he is filled with the Spirit of God, from whom nothing is hidden. But since it befits him to speak of heavenly things, I will answer concerning those that belong to the talkativeness of the Greeks. Afterwards, when we have disputed in the manner of the Greeks and have come to the point where no way out appears, then he, as one filled with the knowledge of God, will openly and clearly disclose to us the truth of all things, so that not only we but all the hearers who are present may recognize the way of truth. And so let him now sit as arbiter, so that when one of us gives way, he may then take it up and pronounce an undoubted verdict.”
Notes and citation
Summary: Niceta asks to debate the old man in the Greek manner, leaving Peter, filled with the Spirit, to act as judge and give the final truth.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR (Greek letters for Latin)): rcSpondere → respondere; lndulgeat mihi dominus mens Peι) trus → Indulgeat mihi dominus meus Petrus; eum sene → cum sene; inquit, lili, quod → inquit, fili, quod; quem ne ἕνεκα quidem → quem ne Graeca quidem; przesto → praesto.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.5 (PG 1:1372b–1373b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.6PG 1:1373b
Haec cum dixisset Niceta, hi qui convenerant inter semetipsos colloquebantur: Hicne est ille quem audiebamus Petrus, illius qui in Iudaea apparuit et signa ac virtutes plurimas fecit, discipulus probatissimus? Et intendentes in eum, cum timore ac veneratione ingenti stabant, tanquam boni servi honorem domino deferentes. Quod ubi Petrus sensit, ait ad eos: Attentius audiamus, rectum tenentes judicium de his quae dicentur ab utroque, et post ipsorum conflictum, quod necessarium visum fuerit, addemus et nos. Et cum haec dixisset Petrus, gavisae sunt turbae. Niceta vero dicere hoc modo aggressus est: Definisti, Pater, quod non per Dei providentiam mundus regatur, sed omnia genesi subjaceant, vel quae ad mores uniuscujusque vel quae ad gesta pertinent. Ad quae statim quidem potui respondere, sed quia justum est servare ordinem, definimus et nos quid teneamus, sicut ipse fieri rogasti. Ego dico providentia Dei gubernari mundum, in his duntaxat quae gubernatione ejus indigent. Unus est enim omnia tenens qui et mundum fecit, justus Deus, unicuique secundum gesta sua quandoque redditurus. Ecce habes et nostram definitionem; nunc quod vis prosequere, vel mea destruens, vel tua asserens, ut ego bis quae a te prosequentur, occurram. Aut si me vis priorem dicere, non morabor.
When Niceta had said this, those who had gathered said among themselves: “Is this the Peter we used to hear of, the most approved disciple of him who appeared in Judea and did very many signs and mighty works?” And gazing at him they stood with fear and great veneration, like good servants paying honor to their master. When Peter perceived this, he said to them: “Let us listen more attentively, keeping a right judgment about what will be said by each; and after their contest, we too will add what seems necessary.” When Peter had said this, the crowds rejoiced. Niceta began to speak in this way: “You have defined, father, that the world is not ruled by the providence of God, but that all things are subject to birth-fate, whether those that pertain to each one's character or those that pertain to his deeds. I could have answered this at once; but since it is right to keep order, let us also define what we hold, as you yourself asked to be done. I say that the world is governed by the providence of God, at least in those things that need his government. For there is one who holds all things, who also made the world, the just God, who will one day render to each according to his deeds. See, you have our definition too. Now pursue what you wish, either destroying mine or asserting yours, so that I may meet what you set forth. Or if you wish me to speak first, I will not delay.”
Rom 2:6 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: The crowd recognizes Peter, and Niceta states his thesis that the one just God governs the world by providence and will judge each by his deeds.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join; stray marks): apparuit ct signa → apparuit et signa; gavisae sunt turba}. → gavisae sunt turbae.; genesisubjaceant → genesi subjaceant; vel qnae → vel quae; serva-re → servare; Aut si me η Ῐ) vis → Aut si me vis.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.6 (PG 1:1373b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.7PG 1:1373b–1374b
Et senex respondit: Sive tibi placet, fili, prius dicere. sive hoc magis placet ut ego dicam, nihil interest, apud eos praecipue, qui bona venia disputant. Dic tamen tu prior, libenter accipio, atque utinam possis etiam qua? a me dicenda sunt prosequi, atque his quae contraria sunt objicere, et ex utrorumque collatione ostendere veritatem. Niceta respondit: Si vis, inquit, possum etiam tuas partes dicere, et ad haec respondere. Et senex: Ostende mihi prius, quomodo potes scire ea quae nondum locutus sum, et ita tibi credam, quod partes meas prosequi possis. Et Niceta: Secta, inquit, tua et sententia quam definisti, manifesta est his qui eruditi sunt in hujusmodi disciplinis, certaque est ejus consequentia. Et quia ego non sum ignarus quae sint definitiones philosophorum, ex his quae proposuisti, quid consequatur agnosco, maxime quia pra: caeteris philosophis Epicuri scholas frequentavi. Frater autem meus Aquila, magis Pyrrhonios secutus est. alius autem frater noster Platonicos et Aristotelicos; itaque cum eruditis tibi auditoribus sermo est. Tum senex: Bene, inquit, et consequenter docuisti, quomodo ex his quae proposita: sunt definitionibus, etiam ea quae consequuntur adverteres. Sed ego amplius aliquid professus sum, quam sentit Epicurus, quia introduxi genesim, eamque causam omnium gestorum hominibus posui.
The old man answered: “Whether you prefer to speak first, my son, or prefer that I should speak, makes no difference, especially among those who dispute with good will. But you speak first; I accept it gladly. And I wish you could also set out what I am to say, and object to it what is contrary, and show the truth from the comparison of both.” Niceta answered: “If you wish, I can also state your side and answer it.” The old man said: “Show me first how you can know what I have not yet said, and then I will believe you that you can set out my side.” Niceta said: “Your school and the view you have defined are plain to those who are trained in disciplines of this kind, and its consequences are certain. And since I am not ignorant of what the definitions of the philosophers are, from what you have proposed I recognize what follows; especially since, more than the other philosophers, I attended the schools of Epicurus. My brother Aquila followed the Pyrrhonists more, and our other brother the Platonists and Aristotelians; so you are speaking with educated hearers.” Then the old man said: “You have shown well and logically how you would notice from the definitions proposed what follows from them. But I have professed something more than Epicurus holds, for I have introduced birth-fate and made it the cause of all men's deeds.”
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Summary: Niceta says he can state the old man's case himself, having studied Epicureanism while his brothers studied Pyrrhonism and Platonic and Aristotelian philosophy, and the old man adds that he holds birth-fate besides.
- “Our other brother” is Clement (the brothers have not yet revealed their kinship to the old man).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join; stray marks): νει. Et senex → Et senex; Die tamen tu → Dic tamen tu; nonduin → nondum; ignarus qua} sint → ignarus quae sint; philos0phis → philosophis; sermoest → sermo est; ddcuisti → docuisti; advertercs → adverteres.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.7 (PG 1:1373b–1374b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.8PG 1:1374b–1375a
Cumque haec senex dixisset, ego Clemens aio ad eum: Audi, Pater, si a te frater meus Niceta obtinuerit, quia non sine Dei providentia mundus agitur, in ista parte quae superest de genesi. ego tibi potero respondere; est enim mihi notitia hujus scientiae. Et cum haec dixissem, frater meus Aquila: Quid necesse est, inquit, ut eum patrem vocemus, cum in mandatis habeamus neminem super terram patrem vocare? Et post haec respiciens ad senem: Non injuriose, inquit, accipias, Pater, quod fratrem meum culpavi, quia te patrem vocaret; habemus enim tale mandatum, ne aliquem nomine isto vocitemus. Cumque haec dixisset Aquila, risit omnium astantium coetus una cum sene et Petro. Aquila autem requirente causam, cur omnes riserint, aio ad eum: Quod tu in quo alios culpas, id ipse facis, qui senem appellaveris patrem. At ille negabat, dicens: Vere nescio si eum patrem vocavi. Interea Petrus movebatur suspicionibus quibusdam, sicut ipse nobis enarravit postmodum, et respiciens ad Nicetam: Expedi, inquit, quod proposuisti.
When the old man had said this, I, Clement, said to him: “Listen, father: if my brother Niceta wins against you that the world is not run without the providence of God, I shall be able to answer you on the part that remains, about birth-fate; for I have knowledge of this science.” When I had said this, my brother Aquila said: “What need is there for us to call him father, when we have it among the commandments to call no one on earth father?” And after this, looking at the old man, he said: “Do not take it as an insult, father, that I blamed my brother for calling you father; for we have such a commandment, not to call anyone by that name.” When Aquila had said this, the whole company of bystanders laughed, together with the old man and Peter. When Aquila asked why everyone had laughed, I said to him: “Because you yourself are doing what you blame others for, since you have called the old man father.” But he denied it, saying: “Truly I do not know whether I called him father.” Meanwhile Peter was stirred by certain suspicions, as he himself told us afterwards; and looking at Niceta he said: “Carry out what you proposed.”
Matt 23:9 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Clement offers to debate birth-fate; Aquila rebukes him for calling the old man father while doing so himself, and Peter begins to suspect who the old man is.
- Matt 23:9.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): si ate frater → si a te frater; scientiaz. Etcum → scientiae. Et cum; frater mens Aquila → frater meus Aquila; Aquila,,risit → Aquila, risit; aio ad eum,: → aio ad eum:; dicens:Vere → dicens: Vere; Expedi,iuquit → Expedi, inquit.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.8 (PG 1:1374b–1375a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.9PG 1:1375a–1375b
Tum Niceta hoc modo exorsus est: Omne quod est, aut simplex est aut compositum. Quod simplex est, caret numero, divisione, colore, differentia, asperitate, lenitate, pondere, levitate, qualitate, quantitate. et ob hoc etiam fine. Quod vero compositum est, aut ex duobus aut ex tribus aut etiam ex quatuor compositum est, aut certe ex pluribus, et quae composita sunt, necessario etiam dividi possunt. Et senex audiens haec: Optime, inquit, et doctissime dicis, fili. Et Niceta: Igitur illud quod simplex est et his omnibus caret, quibus solvi quod subsistit, potest, sine dubio incomprehensibile et immensum est, neque initium ullum neque finem sciens, et ideo unum et solum est, et sine auctore subsistens. Quod autem compositum est, et numero ac diversitati divisionique subjacet, necessario auctore aliquo compositum est, atque in unam speciem diversitas congregata. Quod ergo immensum est, bonitate pater est, virtute conditor. Neque ergo condendi virtus in immenso cessare potuit, neque bonitas otiari, sed ad substituenda ea quae sunt, bonitate, ad componenda et firmanda, virtute provocatur. Substituuntur ergo et componuntur quadam, ut diximus, ex duobus vel ex tribus, quaedam vero ex quatuor, alia ex pluribus. Sed quoniam nunc nobis de mundi ratione qua-ritur et de substantia ejus, quam ex quatuor elementis esse compositam constat, cui omnes illa: decem differentiae quas supra comprehendimus accidunt, ab his inferioribus incipientes gradibus, ad superiora veniemus. Via enim nobis ad intellectualia et invisibilia ab bis quae videmus et contrectamus datur, sicut continetur in arithmeticis disciplinis, ubi cum de divinis quaeritur, ab inferioribus ad superiores numeros ascenditur, cum vero de praesentibus et visibilibus ratio exponitur, de superioribus ad inferiores numeros ordo dirigitur. Aut non ita est?
Then Niceta began in this way: “Everything that exists is either simple or composite. What is simple lacks number, division, color, difference, roughness, smoothness, weight, lightness, quality, quantity, and therefore also limit. What is composite is composed of two or three or even four things, or certainly of more; and what is composed can necessarily also be divided.” Hearing this, the old man said: “You speak excellently and most learnedly, my son.” Niceta said: “So that which is simple, and lacks all these things by which what subsists can be dissolved, is without doubt incomprehensible and immeasurable, knowing neither any beginning nor end; and therefore it is one and alone, and subsists without an author. But what is composite, and subject to number and diversity and division, has necessarily been composed by some author, and diversity gathered into one form. That which is immeasurable, then, is father in goodness, founder in power. Neither could the power of founding cease in the immeasurable one, nor his goodness be idle; but he is moved by goodness to bring into being the things that are, and by power to compose and establish them. So some things are brought into being and composed, as we said, of two or of three, some of four, others of more. But since we are now inquiring about the plan of the world and its substance, which is agreed to be composed of four elements, to which all those ten differences we listed above belong, we will begin from these lower steps and come to the higher. For a way to the intellectual and invisible things is given us from those we see and handle, as is contained in the arithmetical disciplines, where, when divine things are inquired into, one ascends from lower to higher numbers, but when the account of present and visible things is set out, the order is directed from higher to lower numbers. Or is it not so?”
Rom 1:20 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: Niceta distinguishes the simple, which is one, unbounded, and uncreated, from the composite, which requires a maker, and identifies the simple with God, Father in goodness and Founder in power.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join): exorsus est:0mne → exorsus est: Omne; difierentia → differentia; extribus → ex tribus; et qua composita sunt → et quae composita sunt; Igitur‘ilo Iud → Igitur illud; incompre- Itensibile → incomprehensibile; subjacct → subjacet; in innuenso → in immenso; ad sulistituenda → ad substituenda; arl componenda → ad componenda; difi‘erentia: quas → differentiae quas; abhis → ab his; veniemus.Via → veniemus. Via; aritlimeticis → arithmeticis; qureritur → quaeritur.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.9 (PG 1:1375a–1375b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.10PG 1:1375b–1376a
Et senex ait: Valde bene prosequeris. Et Niceta: De mundi nunc ergo ratione prosequendum est, cujus prima quaestio in duas partes dividitur. Quaeritur enim utrum factus sit, an non; et si quidem non est factus, ipse erit illud ingenitum, ex quo omnia. Si vero factus est, de hoc rursus quaestio in duas partes scinditur, utrumnam ex se ipso factus est, an ab alio. Et si quidem a semetipso est, excluditur sine dubio Providentia. Si Providentia non recipitur, frustra animus ad virtutem provocatur, frustra justitia custoditur, quippe si non est qui justo pro meritis aliquando restituat. Sed ne anima quidem ipsa immortalis videbitur, si eam post absolutionem corporis nullius providentia: excipiat dispensatio.
The old man said: “You are proceeding very well.” Niceta said: “Now, then, we must proceed to the plan of the world, the first question about which is divided into two parts. For it is asked whether it was made or not. If it was not made, it will itself be that unbegotten from which all things come. But if it was made, the question about it is again split into two parts: whether it was made of itself or by another. If of itself, Providence is without doubt excluded. If Providence is not accepted, the soul is urged to virtue in vain, justice is kept in vain, since there is no one to repay the just one day according to his merits. Nor will the soul itself seem immortal, if after its release from the body no dispensation of providence receives it.
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Summary: Niceta poses the question whether the world was made, and by itself or another, noting that without Providence virtue, justice, and immortality lose their meaning.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR, stray mark): quidc'm → quidem; illttd ingenitum, ex Ι) quo → illud ingenitum, ex quo; qurestio → quaestio.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.10 (PG 1:1375b–1376a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.11PG 1:1376a–1376b
Iam si doceatur esse Providentia, et per ipsam factus esse mundus, alia rursus quae discutiantur occurrunt; requiretur enim quo modo sit Providentia, utrum generaliter erga omnia, an specialiter erga partes, an et generaliter erga partes, an et generaliter erga omnia et specialiter erga partes. Generalis autem intelligitur hoc modo, quasi ab initio Deus faciens mundum ordinem dederit rebus et cursum statuerit, et ultra eorum curam quae geruntur, habere cessaverit. Specialis vero erga partes hoc modo est, ut quorumdam quidem vel hominum vel locorum providentiam gerat, quorumdam vero non gerat. Generalis autem omnium et specialis partium simul hoc modo est, quasi et ab initio omnia fecerit Deus, et usque ad finem per singulos quosque providentiam gerat, et unicuique reddat pro actibus suis.
“Now if it is shown that there is Providence, and that the world was made through it, other questions to be discussed arise again. For it will be asked how Providence exists: whether generally over all things, or specially over parts, or generally over parts, or both generally over all and specially over parts. It is understood as general in this way: as if God, making the world in the beginning, gave things their order and fixed their course, and thereafter ceased to care for what happens. It is special over parts in this way: that he exercises providence over some men or places but not over others. And it is at once general over all and special over parts in this way: as if God both made all things in the beginning and exercises providence over each one until the end, and renders to each according to his acts.
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Summary: Niceta distinguishes general, special, and combined forms of providence, the last meaning that God made all things and cares for each to the end.
- One of the four options is printed twice in a slightly garbled form in the scan; translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join): 1am si doceatur → Iam si doceatur; tttrum generaliter → utrum generaliter; faciens tnundum → faciens mundum; utquorumdam → ut quorumdam.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.11 (PG 1:1376a–1376b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.12PG 1:1376b
Prima ergo illa propositio, quae dicit, quia ab initio Deus fecerit omnia, et cursu atque ordine rebus imposito de reliquo nihil ad se revocet, secundum genesim geri cuncta confirmat. Ad hoc ergo primo respondebimus, et bis praecipue qui deos colunt et genesim defendunt, qui utique cum immolant diis et exorant eos, sine dubio contra genesim se impetraturos aliquid sperant, et per hoc genesim solvunt. Cum vero rident qui ad virtutem provocant et ad continentiam cohortantur, et dicunt, quia nemo potest facere aliquid aut pati, nisi quod ei fato decretum est, omnes profecto cultum Divinitatis abscindunt. Quid enim colas eos, a quibus promereri nihil possis, quod non patiatur ratio decreti? Haec interim adversus illos dicta sunt. Ego vero mundum dico a Deo factum, et ab ipso quandoque esse solvendum, ut ille appareat qui aeternus est et ad hoc factus, ut semper sit et dignos se recipiat judicio Dei. Quod autem sit alius invisibilis mundus, qui hunc visibilem intra semetipsum contineat, posteaquam de visibili mundo discusserimus, tunc et ad illum veniemus.
“That first proposition, then, which says that God made all things in the beginning and, having imposed a course and order on things, calls nothing back to himself thereafter, confirms that all things are done according to birth-fate. We shall answer this first, and especially those who worship the gods and defend birth-fate. When they sacrifice to the gods and entreat them, they certainly hope to obtain something against birth-fate, and by this they undo birth-fate. But when they laugh at those who urge to virtue and exhort to self-control, and say that no one can do or suffer anything except what has been decreed for him by fate, they surely cut away all worship of divinity. For why should you worship those from whom you can obtain nothing that the logic of the decree does not permit? So much meanwhile against them. But I say that the world was made by God and will one day be dissolved by him, so that that world may appear which is eternal and was made for this, that it may exist forever and receive those who are worthy of it by the judgment of God. And that there is another invisible world which contains this visible one within itself, we shall come to that also after we have discussed the visible world.
2 Pet 3:13 (echo, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 4:18 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: Niceta argues that belief in fixed fate contradicts prayer and sacrifice and abolishes worship, and asserts that God made the world and will dissolve it to reveal the eternal world.
- 2 Pet 3:10–13; 2 Cor 4:18.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): l'ato decretum → fato decretum; arternus est → aeternus est.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.12 (PG 1:1376b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.13PG 1:1376b–1377a
Nunc interim, quia factus sit mundus iste visibilis, testantur etiam philosophorum plurimi sapientes viri. Sed ne videamur quasi egentes assertionibus uti voluisse testibus, de principiis ejus, si videtur, quaeramus. Corporeum esse mundum hunc visibilem, eo ipso quod est visibilis, satis constat. Omne autem corpus duas recipit differentias; aut enim connexum est et solidum, aut divisum et separatum. Et si quidem connexum fuit et solidum corpus ex quo mundus factus est, et per diversas species partesque secundum differentias sui corpus illud partitum est et divisum, necesse est intelligi fuisse aliquem qui corpus quod erat connexum et solidum dirimeret, atque in partes multas duceret formasque diversas. Aut si ex diversis dispersisque corporum partibus omnis mundi haec moles composita est et compaginata, necesse est nihilominus intelligi fuisse aliquem qui in unum dispersas colligeret et diversas rebus species indueret.
“Now meanwhile, that this visible world was made, very many wise men among the philosophers also testify. But so that we may not seem, as if lacking proofs, to have wished to use witnesses, let us, if you please, inquire about its first principles. That this visible world is bodily is sufficiently clear from the very fact that it is visible. Every body admits two distinctions: either it is joined and solid, or divided and separated. If the body from which the world was made was joined and solid, and that body was parted and divided into various forms and parts according to its differences, it must be understood that there was someone who separated the body that was joined and solid and drew it out into many parts and various forms. Or if this whole mass of the world was composed and fitted together from various and scattered parts of bodies, it must equally be understood that there was someone who gathered the scattered parts into one and clothed things with various forms.
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Summary: Whether the world's matter was originally solid and then divided, or scattered and then gathered, it requires a maker who shaped it.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): sApientes → sapientes; dill‘erentias → differentias; mundus lactus est → mundus factus est.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.13 (PG 1:1376b–1377a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.14PG 1:1377a–1378a
Et quidem plures philosophorum hoc magis _ sensisse scio, quod ex uno corpore, quam illi materiam vocant, divisiones ac discretiones conditor fecerit Deus; quod tamen ex quatuor simplicibus, et in unum temperamento quodam divinae Providentiae admistis constaret elementis. Nam illud superfluo a quibusdam dictum puto, quod simplex corpus, id est absque ulla conjunctione sit mundi, cum constet nec corpus posse esse quod simplex est, neque misceri posse aut propagari vel solvi; quae omnia utique mundi corporibus videmus accidere. Quo modo enim solveretur, si esset simplex nec haberet intra se aliud a quo resolvi ac dividi posset? Quod si ex duobus aut tribus, vel etiam ex quatuor constare corpora videntur, cui non etiam exiguum habenti sensum manifestum sit, quod fuerit aliquis qui in unum plura collegerit, et temperamenti moderatione servata, ex diversis partibus solidum corpus effecerit? Hunc igitur nos conditorem mundi dicimus Deum, hunc agnoscimus universitatis auctorem.
“And I know that most of the philosophers held rather this: that God the founder made divisions and distinctions out of one body, which they call matter, which nevertheless consisted of four simple elements mixed into one by a certain tempering of divine Providence. For I think it was said superfluously by some that the body of the world is simple, that is, without any combination, since it is clear that what is simple cannot be a body, nor be mixed or propagated or dissolved—all of which we certainly see happening to the bodies of the world. For how would it be dissolved if it were simple and had nothing within it by which it could be resolved and divided? But if bodies are seen to consist of two or three or even four things, to whom with even a little sense is it not plain that there was someone who gathered many into one and, keeping the moderation of the tempering, made a solid body out of various parts? This one, then, we call God the founder of the world; this one we acknowledge as the author of the universe.
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Summary: Since the world's bodies are mixed and dissoluble, they are composite, and whoever combined their elements is God, the author of the universe.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join): Deus;quod → Deus; quod; etin unum → et in unum; sim- plex → simplex; resolvi ae dividi → resolvi ac dividi; Quod si cx duobus → Quod si ex duobus.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.14 (PG 1:1377a–1378a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.15PG 1:1378a–1379a
Nam Graecorum philosophi de principiis mundi quaerentes, alius alia incessit via. Denique Pythagoras elementa principiorum numeros esse dicit, Callistratus qualitates, Alcmaeon contrarietates, Anaximandrus immensitatem, Anaxagoras aequalitates partium, Epicurus atomos. Diodorus amere, hoc est ex his in quibus partes non sunt, Asclepias ὅγκους, quod nos tumores vel elationes possumus dicere, Geometrae lineas, Democritus ideas, Thales aquam, Heraclitus ignem, Diogenes aerem, Parmenides terram, Zenon, Empedocles, Plato ignem, aquam, aerem, terram; Aristoteles etiam quintum introducit elementum, quod ἀκατονόμαστον, id est incompellabile nominavit, sine dubio illum indicans, qui in unum quatuor elementa conjungens mundum fecerit. Sive igitur duo sive tria sive quatuor aut etiam plura sint, vel innumera ex quibus mundus constat, omni ex parte, qui plura in unum collegerit et rursus collecta in diversas species duxerit, ostenditur Deus, et probatur per haec non potuisse machinam mundi sine opifice et provisere constare,
“For the philosophers of the Greeks, inquiring about the first principles of the world, went each his own way. Pythagoras says that numbers are the elements of the first principles; Callistratus, qualities; Alcmaeon, contrarieties; Anaximander, the boundless; Anaxagoras, equality of parts; Epicurus, atoms; Diodorus, partless things, that is, things in which there are no parts; Asclepiades, onkoi, which we may call swellings or masses; the geometers, lines; Democritus, ideas; Thales, water; Heraclitus, fire; Diogenes, air; Parmenides, earth; Zeno, Empedocles, and Plato, fire, water, air, and earth. Aristotle also introduces a fifth element, which he called akatonomaston, that is, ‘unnameable’—without doubt indicating him who made the world by joining the four elements into one. Whether, then, there are two or three or four or even more or innumerable things from which the world consists, in every case God is shown to be the one who gathered many into one and again led what was gathered into various forms; and it is proved by this that the fabric of the world could not have existed without a maker and provider.
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Summary: Niceta surveys the Greek philosophers' theories of first principles and argues that whatever the elements, a God who combined them is required.
- A doxographical list; several attributions are unusual (e.g. “ideas” to Democritus, “earth” to Parmenides, the “unnameable” fifth element to Aristotle) and are translated as written. A footnote number of the edition printed in the text has been removed.
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- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR and footnote number in the text): Geometras lines (5'7) → Geometrae lineas; id cst incompellabile → id est incompellabile; mundum fccerit → mundum fecerit; ostenditur Deus, ct probatur → ostenditur Deus, et probatur.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.15 (PG 1:1378a–1379a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.16PG 1:1379a
Sed et hoc ipso quod in conjunctione elementorum, deficiente altero aut abundante, caetera resolvuntur et concidunt, ostenditur ex nihilo ea accepisse principium. Nam verbi gratia si deficiat in aliquo humor, nec aridum stabit; humore enim pascitur aridum sicut et frigus calido, in quibus, ut diximus, si alterum deficiat, penitus cuncta solvuntur, et in hoc originis sua: qua ex nihilo facta sunt, produntur indicia. Quod si materia ipsa probatur esse facta, quomodo partes ejus et species ex quibus mundus constat, videbuntur infectae? Sed de materia et qualitatibus non est nunc dicendi locus; hoc solum docuisse sufficiat, Deum esse omnium conditorem, quia neque si solidum et connexum fuit corpus ex quo mundus constat, dirimi et discerni sine conditore, neque si ex diversis et discretis partibus in unum collectum est. congregari et misceri sine artifice potuit. Igitur si mundi conditor Deus esse tam evidenter ostenditur, qui erit Epicuro locus introducendi atomos, et asserendi quod ex corpusculis insensibilibus non solum sensibilis corpora, sed et mentes intellectuales ac rationales fiant?
“And by the very fact that, in the combination of the elements, when one is lacking or in excess the rest are dissolved and collapse, it is shown that they received their beginning from nothing. For example, if moisture is lacking in anything, the dry will not stand either; for the dry is nourished by moisture, as cold is by heat; and in these, as we said, if one is lacking, all are wholly dissolved, and in this the signs of their origin, by which they were made from nothing, are betrayed. And if matter itself is proved to have been made, how will its parts and forms, of which the world consists, seem unmade? But this is not the place to speak of matter and qualities; let it suffice to have shown only this, that God is the founder of all things, because neither, if the body from which the world consists was solid and joined, could it have been separated and distinguished without a founder, nor, if it was collected into one from various and distinct parts, could it have been gathered and mixed without a craftsman. If, then, God is shown so plainly to be the founder of the world, what room will there be for Epicurus to introduce atoms, and to assert that from insensible particles not only sensible bodies but intellectual and rational minds come into being?”
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Summary: The mutual dependence of the elements shows they were made from nothing, so God is the founder of all, leaving no room for Epicurus's atoms.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): in alique humor → in aliquo humor; sicut ct frigus → sicut et frigus; Sec de materiaetqualitatibus → Sed de materia et qualitatibus; sies diversis etdiscretis → si ex diversis et discretis; corpuscolis → corpusculis.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.16 (PG 1:1379a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.17PG 1:1379a–1379d
Sed dices, ut Epicuro visum est: Continuationes atomorum indesinenti cursu venientium, per immensa et sine fine tempora miscentium se atque in unum conglobantium, corpora solida efficiuntur. Non venio ad haec, ut rem fabulosam et inepte compositam dicam; videamus magis si qualecunque istud est, potest stare quod dicitur. Aiunt enim corpuscula ipsa quae atomos appellant, diversis esse qualitatibus, et alia quidem humida et ob hoc gravia ac deorsum tendentia, alia vero arida et terrena atque ob hoc nihilominus gravia, alia autem ignea et ob hoc sursum semper nitentia, alia vero frigida et ob hoc pigra et semper media. Quomodo ergo cum alia semper sursum tendant utpote ignea, et alia semper deorsum utpote humida et arida, alia vero media et non aequali cursu incedant, coire simul potuerunt et unum corpus efficere? Si quis enim de superioribus, verbi gratia minutissimas paleas, et ad eamdem magnitudinem minutissimi plumbi particulas deorsum jaciat, nunquid poterunt quamvis aequales sint magnitudine, leves paleas partes plumbi particulas consequi? longe enim velocius ad imum graviora perveniunt. Ita ergo et atomi, etiamsi magnitudine aequales sint, pondere tamen inaequales, nunquam poterunt quae leves sunt consequi graviores; quod si consequi non possunt, sine dubio nec misceri nec corpus efficere.
“But you will say, as Epicurus held: ‘Solid bodies are produced by the joinings of atoms coming in an unceasing stream, mingling through immense and endless ages and gathering into one mass.’ I do not go on to call this a fabulous and foolishly composed thing; let us rather see whether what is said, such as it is, can stand. For they say that these very particles which they call atoms are of different qualities: some moist and therefore heavy and tending downward; others dry and earthy, and therefore also heavy; others fiery and therefore always striving upward; and others cold and therefore sluggish and always in the middle. How then, since some always tend upward, being fiery, and others always downward, being moist and dry, while others are in the middle and do not move with equal course, could they come together and make one body? For if someone threw down from a height, for example, very fine chaff and particles of very fine lead of the same size, could the light chaff overtake the particles of lead, though they are equal in size? The heavier reach the bottom far more swiftly. So too the atoms, even if they are equal in size, yet being unequal in weight, the light ones will never be able to overtake the heavier; and if they cannot overtake them, without doubt they can neither be mixed nor make a body.
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Summary: Niceta argues that atoms of different weights and tendencies could never meet and combine, as falling chaff can never overtake lead.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): ad hac, ut → ad haec, ut; mquales sint → aequales sint; longe cutim → longe enim; lnaequales → inaequales.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.17 (PG 1:1379a–1379d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.18PG 1:1379d–1380a
Tum deinde si indesinenter feruntur et semper veniunt, et rebus quarum jam mensura integra constat, adduntur, quomodo stare universitas potest, cum tam immensis ponderibus nova semper pondera cumulentur? Sed et illud requiro, si paulatim coeuntibus corpusculis exstruebatur hic quem videmus ambitus caeli, quomodo non in eo illico cum consurgeret corruit? si quidem hians machina: ipsius summitas, nullis suffulta repagulis stringeretur. Sicut enim qui aedificiorum tholos in circulum instruunt, nisi conclusionem medii verticis strinxerint, universum pariter solvitur; ita et mundi circulus, quem tam decora specie collectum videmus, si non subito et sub uno divina: virtutis rotatu potentia conditoris effectus est, sed paulatim concurrentibus atomis et instruentibus, non ut ratio petebat, sed ut fortuitus incidisset eventus, quomodo non prius quam colligi posset et concludi. dilapsus est et dissolutus? Ad haec etiam illud requiro, quod sit munimen, super quod tam immense molis jacta sint fundamenta? Et rursus illud ipsum quod dixeris munimen, super quid jaceat? Et item illud aliud, super quid? et eousque interrogando progrediar. donec responsio ad nihil et inane perveniat.
“Then again, if they are borne along unceasingly and always keep coming and are added to things whose measure is already complete, how can the universe stand, when new weights are always heaped on such immense weights? And I ask this too: if this circuit of heaven that we see was built up by particles gradually coming together, how did it not collapse at once as it rose, since the top of its gaping structure was held together by no supports? For as those who build the domes of buildings in a circle find that, unless they bind together the closing of the central crown, the whole falls apart at once, so too the circle of the world, which we see gathered in so beautiful a form—if it was not made suddenly and at once by the turning of divine power, by the might of the founder, but by atoms gradually running together and building, not as reason required but as chance fell out—how did it not slip apart and dissolve before it could be gathered and closed? I ask this too: what is the support on which the foundations of so immense a mass have been laid? And again, on what does that very support you name rest? And that other, on what? And I will go on asking until the answer comes to nothing and emptiness.
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Summary: If atoms kept accumulating the world would be overloaded, and a dome built gradually by chance would have collapsed; nor can any ultimate foundation be found.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; OCR word join): ambitus cmli → ambitus caeli; stringe.retur → stringeretur; in‘circulum → in circulum; utratio → ut ratio; quo- "mdo → quomodo; Ad [nec etiam illud re. quiro → Ad haec etiam illud requiro; ipsnm → ipsum.
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.18 (PG 1:1379d–1380a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.19PG 1:1380a–1380d
Quod si dicat aliquis, quia atomi ignem qualitatis conjunctae sibi corpus unum fecerunt, et quia ignis qualitas non deorsum sed sursum tendit, impositam mundi molem ad superiora semper nitens ignis natura subvectat; ad haec respondebimus: Quomodo potuerunt atomi igneae qualitatis, quae semper ad superiora contendunt, in inferiora descendere, et in profundo ac sub omnia demerso inveniri loco? Cum utique graviores quaeque, id est terrenae vel humidae qualitates praeveniunt, ut diximus, leviores. unde et caelum velut superiorum fabricam igneis atomis, quae et leviores sunt et sursum semper fugiunt, asserunt structam. Neque ergo fundamenta ignis aut alia ulla habere mundus potest, neque atomis gravioribus cum levioribus, id est his qua: deorsum semper praecipitantur et his quae semper sursum fugiunt, societas aut compaginatio ulla conveniat. Igitur quod impossibile sit ex atomorum conjunctione corpora mundi solidari, sufficienter dictum, et quod non potuerint insensibilia corpora. etiamsi ulla ratione coire et connecti potuissent. formas dare corporibus, et mensuras, membra fingere, vel qualitates efficere, vel exprimere quantitates; quae utique omnia modulatione sui, manum testantur artificis et opus rationis ostendunt, quam rationem ego Verbum et Deum appello.
“And if someone should say that atoms of fiery quality joined together made one body, and that, since the quality of fire tends not downward but upward, the nature of fire, always striving upward, bears up the mass of the world placed on it, we will answer this: how could atoms of fiery quality, which always strive upward, descend downward and be found in the depth, in a place sunk beneath all things? For certainly the heavier ones, that is, the earthy or moist qualities, outrun the lighter, as we said. Hence they assert that the heaven too, as the structure of the upper regions, was built of fiery atoms, which are lighter and always flee upward. So the world can have no foundations of fire or of anything else, nor can there be any fellowship or fitting together of heavier atoms with lighter, that is, of those that always plunge downward with those that always flee upward. That it is impossible, then, for the bodies of the world to be made solid from the joining of atoms has been sufficiently said; and also that insensible bodies, even if they could by any means have come together and been joined, could not give forms and measures to bodies, shape limbs, produce qualities, or express quantities—all of which, by their harmony, testify to the hand of a craftsman and show the work of reason; and that reason I call the Word and God.”
John 1:3 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: Fiery atoms could not form the world's foundation, and insensible atoms could not produce the ordered forms of things, which show the work of reason, the Word and God.
- “That reason I call the Word and God” (compare John 1:1–3).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR): ad [nec respondebimus → ad haec respondebimus; terrente vel humida: → terrenae vel humidae; unde et cmlum velut superiorum fabricam lgneis → unde et caelum velut superiorum fabricam igneis; leviores sunt ct sursum → leviores sunt et sursum; compaginatio uha → compaginatio ulla; suflicimter → sufficienter; ί]υῆ utique omnia modulatione sui, manuni → quae utique omnia modulatione sui, manum; Veiaum → Verbum.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.19 (PG 1:1380a–1380d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.20PG 1:1380d–1381a
Sed dicet aliquis haec a natura fieri. Jam in hoc de nomine controversia est. Cum enim constet mentis esse et rationis opus, hoc quod tu naturam vocas, ego Deum conditorem voco; constat nec potuisse nec posse vel corporum Species tam necessariis distinctionibus institutas, vel animorum sensus, irrationabili opere et quod sensu careat effici. Quod si idonei tibi testes videntur philosophi, Plato de his testatur in Timaeo, ubi de mundi factura discutiens requirit, utrumnam semper fuerit, an initium sumpserit, et pronuntiat quia factus sit: Visibilis enim, inquit, est et palpabilis atque corporeus, omnia autem quae hujusmodi sunt, facta esse constat; quod autem factum est, aliquem habet sine dubio auctorem, a quo factum est. Hunc ergo, inquit, factorem parentemque omnium, et invenire difficile est et inventum vulgo enarrare impossibile. Haec quidem Plato dicit; sed et si ipse aliique Graecorum philosophi de factura mundi silere voluissent, nonne omnibus intellectum habentibus palam esset? Quis enim est exigui saltem sensus homo, qui cum cernat domum omnia qua: ad usus necessaria sunt habentem, cujus cameram in sphaerae gyrum videat collectam, eamque vario splendore et diversis imaginibus depictam, luminaribus praecipuis et maximis adornatam; quis, inquam, est, qui hujusmodi fabricam videns, non statim pronuntiet a sapientissimo et potentissimo artifice constructam? Et ita quis invenietur insipiens, ut cum caeli opus inspiciat, splendorem solis cernat ac lunae, astrorum cursus et species et vias certis rationibus et temporibus videat definitas, non tam a sapiente haec artifice et rationabili, quam ab ipsa sapientia et ratione clamet effecta?
“But someone will say that these things are done by nature. Then this is a dispute about a name. For since it is agreed that this is the work of mind and reason, what you call nature I call God the founder. It is agreed that neither the forms of bodies, established with such necessary distinctions, nor the senses of souls could have been, or can be, produced by an irrational work that lacks sense. And if the philosophers seem suitable witnesses to you, Plato testifies about these things in the Timaeus, where, discussing the making of the world, he asks whether it always existed or took a beginning, and declares that it was made: ‘For it is visible,’ he says, ‘and tangible and bodily; and all such things are agreed to have been made; and what has been made has without doubt some author by whom it was made. This maker and parent of all things,’ he says, ‘is both hard to find, and, when found, impossible to declare to the many.’ This Plato says. But even if he and the other philosophers of the Greeks had chosen to be silent about the making of the world, would it not be plain to all who have understanding? For who is the man of even slight sense who, seeing a house that has everything necessary for use, whose vault he sees gathered into the round of a sphere, painted with varied splendor and various images, and adorned with special and very great lights—who, I ask, seeing such a building, would not at once declare that it was built by a most wise and powerful craftsman? And who will be found so foolish that, when he looks on the work of heaven and sees the splendor of the sun and moon, and sees the courses and forms and paths of the stars fixed by sure reasons and times, he would not cry out that these were made not so much by a wise and rational craftsman as by wisdom and reason itself?
Ps 19:1 (18:2 LXX) (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: What is called nature is really God the maker, as Plato's Timaeus testifies; the ordered heavens, like a painted domed house, proclaim a wise maker.
- Plato, Tim. 28b–c, paraphrased. A running head and part of an editor's note printed in the text have been removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR; running head and editor's note in the text): hate a natura → haec a natura; nccessariis → necessariis; animorum sen- ΝΟΤιιΕ. gbgfigat solummodo figuram, magnitudinem Ol Π. nuus. sus, → animorum sensus,; eflici → effici; utrunmam → utrumnam; Ilaec quidem → Haec quidem; palam esset?Quis → palam esset? Quis; quis, Ῑιι· quam, est → quis, inquam, est; eteli opus → caeli opus; efl‘ecta → effecta.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 28b–c (Plato (works); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Ps.-Clem. Recogn. 8.20 (PG 1:1380d–1381a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/ps-clem-recognitions/7-37/#p-8-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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