Confessions 11.36–12.22
Latin text: Knoll, CSEL 33 (Latin text: Pius Knoll, Confessionum Libri XIII (CSEL 33, 1896), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).
Chapter 11
11.36CSEL 33:306–307
In te, anime meus, tempora mea metior. noli mihi obstrepere, quod est: noli tibi obstrepere turbis affectionum tuarum. in te, inquam, tempora metior. affectionem, quam res praetereuntes in te faciunt et, cum illae praeterierint, manet, ipsam metior praesentem, non ea quae praeterierunt, ut fieret; ipsam metior, cum tempora metior. ergo aut ipsa sunt tempora, aut non tempora metior. quid cum metimur silentia et dicimus illud silentium tantum tenuisse temporis, quantum illa uox tenuit, nonne cogitationem tendimus ad mensuram uocis, quasi sonaret, ut aliquid de interuallis silentiorum in spatio temporis renuntiare possimus? nam et uoce atque ore cessante peragimus cogitando carmina et uersus et quemque sermonem motionumque dimensiones quaslibet et de spatiis temporum, quantum illud ad illud sit, renuntiamus non aliter, ac si ea sonando diceremus. si uoluerit aliquis edere longiusculam uocem et constituerit praemeditando, quam longa futura sit, egit utique iste spatium temporis in silentio memoriaeque conmendans coepit edere illam uocem, quae sonat, donec ad propositum terminum perducatur: immo sonuit et sonabit; nam quod eius iam peractum est, utique sonuit, quod autem restat, sonabit atque ita peragitur, dum praesens intentio futurum in praeteritum traicit deminutione futuri crescente praeterito, donec consumptione futuri sit totum praeteritum.
It is in you, my mind, that I measure my times. Do not interrupt me; that is, do not interrupt yourself with the crowds of your impressions. In you, I say, I measure times. The impression which passing things make in you, and which remains when they have passed, that is what I measure as present, not the things that passed to make it; that is what I measure when I measure times. So either this is time, or I do not measure times. What of when we measure silences, and say that this silence lasted as long as that voice lasted? Do we not stretch our thought to the measure of the voice, as if it were sounding, so that we can report something about the intervals of silences in extent of time? For even when voice and mouth are still, we go through poems and lines and any speech in thought, and any measures of motions, and we report on the extents of times, how long this is in relation to that, just as if we were saying them aloud. If someone wants to utter a rather long sound and has settled beforehand how long it is to be, he has certainly gone through that extent of time in silence, and entrusting it to memory he begins to utter that sound, which sounds until it is brought to the end set for it. Or rather, it has sounded and will sound; for what of it is already completed has certainly sounded, and what remains will sound; and so it is carried through, while the present attention transfers the future into the past, the past growing as the future diminishes, until by the using up of the future the whole is past.
Notes and citation
Summary: Times are measured in the mind, as impressions that remain after things pass.
- Affectio, the impression left in the mind by passing things, is rendered "impression"; intentio here is rendered "attention."
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 11.36 (CSEL 33:306–307; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-11-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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11.37CSEL 33:307
Sed quomodo minuitur aut consumitur futurum, quod nondum est, aut quomodo crescit praeteritum, quod iam non est, nisi quia in animo, qui illud agit, tria sunt? nam et expectat et adtendit et meminit, ut id quod expectat per id quod adtendit transeat in id quod meminerit. quis igitur negat futura nondum esse? sed tamen iam est in animo expectatio futurorum. et quis negat praeterita iam non esse? sed tamen est adhuc in animo memoria praeteritorum. et quis negat praesens tempus carere spatio, quia in puncto praeterit? sed tamen perdurat attentio, per quam pergat abesse quod aderit. non igitur longum tempus futurum, quod non est, sed longum futurum longa expectatio futuri est, neque longum praeteritum tempus, quod non est, sed longum praeteritum longa memoria praeteriti est.
But how is the future, which does not yet exist, diminished or used up, or how does the past, which no longer exists, grow, unless it is because in the mind which does this there are three things? For it expects, and attends, and remembers, so that what it expects passes through what it attends to into what it remembers. Who, then, denies that future things do not yet exist? But yet there is already in the mind an expectation of future things. And who denies that past things no longer exist? But yet there is still in the mind a memory of past things. And who denies that present time lacks extent, since it passes in a point? But yet attention endures, through which what will be present passes on into being absent. So it is not future time that is long, for it does not exist; but a long future is a long expectation of the future. Nor is past time long, for it does not exist; but a long past is a long memory of the past.
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Summary: The mind expects, attends, and remembers; a long future or past is a long expectation or memory.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 11.37 (CSEL 33:307; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-11-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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11.38CSEL 33:307–308
Dicturus sum canticum, quod noui: antequam incipiam, in totum expectatio mea tenditur, cum autem coepero, quantum ex illa in praeteritum decerpsero, tenditur et memoria mea, atque distenditur uita huius actionis meae in memoriam propter quod dixi et in expectationem propter quod dicturus sum: praesens tamen adest attentio mea, per quam traicitur quod erat futurum, ut fiat praeteritum. quod quanto magis agitur et agitur, tanto breuiata expectatione prolongatur memoria, donec tota expectatio consumatur, quum tota illa actio finita transierit in memoriam. et quod in toto cantico, hoc in singulis particulis eius fit atque in singulis syllabis eius, hoc in actione longiore, cuius forte particula est illud canticum, hoc in tota uita hominis, cuius partes sunt omnes actiones hominis, hoc in toto saeculo filiorum hominum, cuius partes sunt omnes uitae hominum.
I am about to recite a psalm that I know. Before I begin, my expectation is stretched out over the whole; but when I have begun, whatever of it I have plucked off into the past, my memory too is stretched out over it, and the life of this action of mine is distended into memory, because of what I have said, and into expectation, because of what I am about to say; yet my attention is present, through which what was future is carried over so as to become past. And the more this goes on and on, the more memory is lengthened as expectation is shortened, until the whole expectation is used up, when that whole action is finished and has passed into memory. And what happens in the whole psalm happens also in each of its parts and in each of its syllables; the same in a longer action, of which that psalm is perhaps a part; the same in the whole life of a man, of which all a man's actions are parts; the same in the whole age of the sons of men, of which all men's lives are parts.
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Summary: Reciting a psalm shows expectation passing through attention into memory; so too with a whole life and all history.
- Canticum here means a psalm or hymn recited from memory.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): quod noni → quod noui.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 11.38 (CSEL 33:307–308; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-11-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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11.39CSEL 33:308–309
Sed quoniam melior est misericordia tua super uitas, ecce distentio est uita mea, et me suscepit dextera tua in domino meo, mediatore filio hominis inter te unum et nos multos, in multis per multa, ut per eum adprehendam, in quo et adprehensus sum, et a ueteribus diebus colligar sequens unum, praeterita oblitus, non in ea, quae futura et transitura sunt, sed in ea quae ante sunt non distentus, sed extentus, non secundum distentionem, sed secundum intentionem sequor ad palmam supernae uocationis, ubi audiam uocem laudis et contempler delectationem tuam nec uenientem nec praetereuntem. nunc uero anni mei in gemitibus, et tu solacium meum, domine, pater meus aeternus es; at ego in tempora dissilui, quorum ordinem nescio, et tumultuosis uarietatibus dilaniantur cogitationes meae, intima uiscera animae meae, donec in te confluam purgatus et liquidus igne amoris tui.
But because "your mercy is better than lives," see, my life is a distension, and "your right hand has upheld me" in my Lord, the Son of man, the mediator between you, the One, and us, the many, in many things and through many things, so that through him I may lay hold of him in whom I have also been laid hold of, and may be gathered from my old days to follow the One, "forgetting what lies behind," not distended toward things that will come and pass away, but extended toward "the things that are before," not by distension but by intention, I press on "toward the prize of the upward calling," where I may "hear the voice of praise" and "contemplate your delight," which neither comes nor passes away. But now "my years are spent in groaning," and you, my comfort, Lord, my Father, are eternal; but I have been scattered into times whose order I do not know, and my thoughts, the inmost bowels of my soul, are torn apart by tumultuous variety, until I flow together into you, purified and melted by the fire of your love.
Ps 63:3 (62:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 63:8 (62:9 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 3:12–14 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 26:7 (25:7 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 27:4 (26:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 31:10 (30:11 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Augustine's life is a distension among times; through Christ he hopes to be gathered into the One and to press on toward God.
- Augustine plays on distentio (being stretched apart among times), extentus (stretched forward), and intentio (straining toward one goal). Quotations and allusions: Ps 63:3, 8; 1 Tim 2:5; Phil 3:12-14; Ps 26:7; Ps 27:4; Ps 31:10.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 11.39 (CSEL 33:308–309; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-11-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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11.40CSEL 33:309
Et stabo atque solidabor in te, in forma mea, ueritate tua, nec patiar quaestiones hominum, qui poenali morbo plus sitiunt, quam capiunt, et dicunt: "quid faciebat deus, antequam faceret caelum et terram?" aut "quid ei uenit in mentem, ut aliquid faceret, cum antea numquam aliquid fecerit?" da illis, domine, bene cogitare, quid dicant, et inuenire, quia non dicitur numquam, ubi non est tempus. qui ergo dicitur numquam fecisse, quid aliud dicitur nisi nullo tempore fecisse? uideant itaque nullum tempus esse posse sine creatura et desinant istam uanitatem loqui. extendantur etiam in ea, quae ante sunt, et intellegant te ante omnia tempora aeternum creatorem omnium temporum neque ulla tempora tibi esse coaeterna nec ullam creaturam, etiamsi est aliqua supra tempora.
And I will stand and be made firm in you, in my mold, your truth; and I will not endure the questions of men who, by a penal disease, thirst for more than they can hold, and say, "What was God doing before he made heaven and earth?" or "How did it come into his mind to make something, when he had never made anything before?" Grant them, Lord, to think well what they are saying, and to find that "never" is not said where there is no time. When, then, he is said never to have made anything, what else is said but that he made nothing at no time? Let them see, then, that there can be no time without creation, and stop talking this vanity. Let them also reach out to "the things that are before," and understand that you, before all times, are the eternal Creator of all times, and that no times are coeternal with you, nor any creation, even if there is some creation above times.
Phil 3:13 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: There is no "never" without time and no time without creation; God, eternal, is before all times.
- "Some creation above times" anticipates the "heaven of heaven" discussed in Book 12. Allusion: Phil 3:13.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray semicolon): nisi; nullo → nisi nullo.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 11.40 (CSEL 33:309; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-11-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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11.41CSEL 33:309–310
Domine deus meus, quis ille sinus est alti secreti tui et quam longe inde me proiecerunt consequentia delictorum meorum? sana oculos meos, et congaudeam luci tuae. certe si est tam grandi scientia et praescientia pollens animus, cui cuncta praeterita et futura ita nota sint, sicut mihi unum canticum notissimum, nimium mirabilis est animus iste atque ad horrorem stupendus, quippe quem ita non lateat quidquid peractum et quidquid relicum saeculorum est, quemadmodum me non latet cantantem illud canticum, quid et quantum eius abierit ab exordio, quid et quantum restet ad finem. sed absit, ut tu, conditor uniuersitatis, conditor animarum et corporum, absit, ut ita noueris omnia futura et praeterita. longe tu, longe mirabilius longeque secretius. neque enim sicut nota cantantis notumue canticum audientis expectatione uocum futurarum et memoria praeteritarum uariatur affectus sensusque distenditur, ita tibi aliquid accidit inconmutabiliter aeterno, hoc est uere aeterno creatori mentium. sicut ergo nosti in principio caelum et terram sine uarietate notitiae tuae, ita fecisti in principio caelum et terram sine distinctione actionis tuae. qui intellegit, confiteatur tibi, et qui non intellegit, confiteatur tibi. o quam excelsus es, et humiles corde sunt domus tua! tu enim erigis elisos, et non cadunt quorum celsitudo tu es.
Lord my God, what is that depth of your deep secret, and how far from it have the consequences of my sins cast me? Heal my eyes, and let me rejoice together in your light. Certainly, if there is a mind endowed with such great knowledge and foreknowledge that all past and future things are known to it as one very familiar psalm is known to me, that mind is exceedingly wonderful and astonishing to the point of awe, since whatever of the ages has been completed and whatever remains is no more hidden from it than it is hidden from me, when I sing that psalm, what and how much of it has gone by since the beginning, and what and how much remains until the end. But far be it that you, founder of the universe, founder of souls and bodies, far be it that you should know all future and past things in that way. You know them far, far more wonderfully and far more secretly. For it is not as with one singing a known psalm, or hearing a known psalm, whose feeling varies and whose perception is distended by the expectation of words to come and the memory of those past; nothing like this happens to you, who are unchangeably eternal, that is, the truly eternal Creator of minds. As, then, in the beginning you knew heaven and earth without any variation in your knowledge, so in the beginning you made heaven and earth without any division in your action. Let him who understands confess to you, and let him who does not understand confess to you. O how high you are, and the humble of heart are your house! For you raise up those who are bowed down, and they do not fall whose height you are.
Ps 138:6 (137:6 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 146:8 (145:8 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: God knows past and future not as a singer knows a song, with expectation and memory, but unchangeably and eternally.
- Allusions: Ps 138:6; Ps 146:8.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u (marked sic in the digital text); line-break hyphen, stray numeral and spacing): notumne canticum → notumue canticum; cae- 1 u m et terram → caelum et terram.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 11.41 (CSEL 33:309–310; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-11-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 12
12.1CSEL 33:310–311
Multa satagit cor meum, domine, in hac inopia uitae meae pulsatum uerbis sanctae scripturae tuae, et ideo plerumque in sermone copiosa est egestas humanae intellegentiae, quia plus loquitur inquisitio quam inuentio et longior est petitio quam inpetratio et operosior est manus pulsans quam sumens. tenemus promissum: quis corrumpet illud? si deus pro nobis, quis contra nos? petite, et accipietis; quaerite, et inuenietis; pulsate, et aperietur uobis. omnis enim, qui petit, accipit et quaerens inueniet et pulsanti aperietur. promissa tua sunt, et quis falli timeat, cum promittit ueritas?
My heart is much troubled, Lord, in the poverty of this life of mine, when it is struck by the words of your holy Scripture; and so, for the most part, the poverty of human understanding is abundant in speech, because seeking says more than finding, and asking is longer than obtaining, and the hand that knocks works harder than the hand that receives. We hold the promise: who will make it void? "If God is for us, who can be against us?" "Ask, and you will receive; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks will find, and to him who knocks it will be opened." These are your promises; and who would fear to be deceived when the Truth promises?
Rom 8:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:7–8 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Seeking to understand Scripture, Augustine trusts Christ's promise that those who seek will find.
- Book 12 continues the exposition of Gen 1:1-2. Quotations: Rom 8:31; Matt 7:7-8.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): innenietis → inuenietis.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.1 (CSEL 33:310–311; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.2CSEL 33:311
Confitetur altitudini tuae humilitas linguae meae, quoniam tu fecisti caelum et terram, hoc caelum, quod uideo, terramque, quam calco, unde est haec terra, quam porto. tu fecisti. sed ubi est caelum caeli, domine, de quo audiuimus in uoce psalmi: caelum caeli domino: terram autem dedit filiis hominum? ubi es, caelum, quod non cernimus, cui terra est hoc omne, quod cernimus? hoc enim totum corporeum non ubique totum ita cepit speciem pulchram in nouissimis, cuius fundus est terra nostra, sed ad illud caelum caeli etiam terrae nostrae caelum terra est. et hoc utrumque magnum corpus non absurde terra est ad illud nescio quale caelum, quod domino est, non filiis hominum.
The lowliness of my tongue confesses to your loftiness that you made heaven and earth: this heaven which I see, and this earth on which I walk, from which comes this earth that I carry. You made it. But where is the heaven of heaven, Lord, of which we have heard in the words of the psalm, "The heaven of heaven is the Lord's, but the earth he has given to the sons of men"? Where are you, heaven which we do not see, to which all this that we see is earth? For this whole bodily world, whose base is our earth, has not received a beautiful form everywhere in its entirety, down to its lowest parts; but compared with that heaven of heaven, even the heaven of our earth is earth. And it is not absurd to call both these great bodies earth in comparison with that heaven, whatever it is, which is the Lord's and not the sons' of men.
Gen 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 115:16 (113:24 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Besides the visible heaven there is "the heaven of heaven," compared with which the whole visible world is earth.
- "The heaven of heaven" (caelum caeli, Ps 115:16 in the Latin) is Augustine's term for a spiritual creation cleaving to God; it is rendered so throughout Book 12. Quotation: Ps 115:16; allusion Gen 1:1.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (doubled letter): quoniiam → quoniam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.2 (CSEL 33:311; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.3CSEL 33:311–312
Et nimirum haec terra erat inuisibilis et inconposita et nescio qua profunditas abyssi, super quam non erat lux, quia nulla species erat illi: unde iussisti, ut scriberetur, quod tenebrae erant super abyssum; quid aliud quam lucis absentia? ubi enim lux esset, si esset, nisi super esset eminendo et inlustrando? ubi ergo lux nondum erat, quid erat adesse tenebras nisi abesse lucem? super itaque erant tenebrae, quia super lux aberat, sicut sonus ubi non est, silentium est. et quid est esse ibi silentium nisi sonum ibi non esse? nonne tu, domine, docuisti hanc animam, quae tibi confitetur? nonne tu, domine, docuisti me, quod priusquam istam informem materiam formares atque distingueres, non erat aliquid, non color non figura, non corpus, non spiritus? non tamen omnino nihil: erat quaedam informitas sine ulla specie.
And certainly this earth was invisible and unformed, and a kind of depth of the abyss over which there was no light, because it had no form; therefore you had it written that "darkness was over the abyss." What else is that than the absence of light? For where would light be, if it existed, except above, standing out and shining? So where there was not yet light, what was the presence of darkness but the absence of light? So darkness was above, because light was absent from above, just as where there is no sound, there is silence. And what is it for there to be silence but for there to be no sound? Did you not, Lord, teach this soul which confesses to you? Did you not, Lord, teach me that before you formed and distinguished this formless matter, there was nothing, no color, no shape, no body, no spirit? Yet it was not absolutely nothing: there was a certain formlessness without any form.
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: "Darkness over the abyss" means the absence of light; before God gave form, there was a formlessness that was not quite nothing.
- Genesis is quoted in the Old Latin ("the earth was invisible and unformed"). Informitas is rendered "formlessness" and materia informis "formless matter" throughout. Quotation: Gen 1:2.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR garble (marked sic in the digital text)): conStetur → confitetur.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.3 (CSEL 33:311–312; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.4CSEL 33:312
Quid ergo uocaretur, quo etiam sensu tardioribus utcumque insinuaretur, nisi usitato aliquo uocabulo? quid autem in omnibus mundi partibus reperiri potest propinquius informitati omnimodae quam terra et abyssus? minus enim speciosa sunt pro suo gradu infimo quam cetera superiora perlucida et luculenta omnia.
What, then, should it be called, so that it might be conveyed in some way even to slower minds, except by some familiar word? And what can be found in all the parts of the world closer to total formlessness than earth and the abyss? For in their lowest rank they are less beautiful than the other, higher things, which are all bright and shining.
Notes and citation
Summary: Formless matter was called "earth" and "abyss" because these are the least beautiful things.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: a for u): atcumque → utcumque.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.4 (CSEL 33:312; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.5CSEL 33:312
cur ergo non accipiam informitatem materiae, quam sine specie feceras, unde speciosum mundum faceres, ita conmode hominibus intimatam, ut appellaretur terra inuisibilis et inconposita, ut, cum in ea quaerit cogitatio, quid sensus attingat, et dicit sibi: "non est intellegibilis forma sicut uita, sicut iustitia, quia materies est corporum, neque sensibilis, quoniam quid uideatur et quid sentiatur in inuisibili et inconposita non est", dum sibi haec dicit humana cogitatio, conetur eam uel nosse ignorando uel ignorare noscendo?
Why, then, should I not take the formlessness of matter, which you had made without form so as to make from it a beautiful world, to have been so suitably conveyed to men that it was called "invisible and unformed earth"? So that when thought seeks in it something for the senses to reach, and says to itself, "It is not an intelligible form, like life or justice, because it is the matter of bodies; nor is it perceptible, because there is nothing in the invisible and unformed to be seen or perceived": while human thought says this to itself, it may try either to know it by not knowing it, or not to know it by knowing it.
Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Formless matter can only be known, if at all, by a kind of knowing ignorance.
- Quotation: Gen 1:2.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: rn for m (marked sic in the digital text)): intimatarn → intimatam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.5 (CSEL 33:312; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.6CSEL 33:312–314
Ego uero, domine, si totum confitear tibi ore meo et calamo meo, quidquid de ista materia docuisti me, cuius antea nomen audiens et non intellegens narrantibus mihi eis, qui non intellegerent, eam cum speciebus innumeris et uariis cogitabam et ideo non eam cogitabam; foedas et horribiles formas perturbatis ordinibus uoluebat animus, sed formas tamen, et informe appellabam non quod careret forma, sed quod talem haberet, ut, si appareret, insolitum et incongruum auersaretur sensus meus et conturbaretur infirmitas hominis; uerum autem illud quod cogitabam non priuatione omnis formae, sed conparatione formosiorum erat informe, et suadebat uera ratio, ut omnis formae qualescumque reliquias omnino detraherem, si uellem prorsus informe cogitare et non poteram; citius enim non esse censebam, quod omni forma priuaretur, quam cogitabam quiddam inter formam et nihil nec formatum nec nihil, informe prope nihil; et cessauit mens mea interrogare hinc spiritum meum plenum imaginibus formatorum corporum et eas pro arbitrio mutantem atque uariantem, et intendi in ipsa corpora eorumque mutabilitatem altius inspexi, qua desinunt esse quod fuerant et incipiunt esse quod non erant, eundemque transitum de forma in formam per informe quiddam fieri suspicatus sum, non per omnino nihil: sed nosse cupiebam, non suspicari —: et si totum tibi confiteatur uox et stilus meus, quidquid de ista quaestione enodasti mihi, quis legentium capere durabit? nec ideo tamen cessabit cor meum tibi dare honorem et canticum laudis de his, quae dictare non sufficit. mutabilitas enim rerum mutabilium ipsa capax est formarum omnium, in quas mutantur res mutabiles. et haec quid est? numquid animus? numquid corpus? numquid species animi uel corporis? si dici posset: nihil aliquid et: est non est, hoc eam dicerem; et tamen iam utcumque erat, ut species caperet istas uisibiles et conpositas.
But I, Lord, if I were to confess to you with my mouth and my pen all that you have taught me about this matter (whose name I used to hear before without understanding, when those who did not understand it spoke of it to me), I used to think of it as having countless different forms, and therefore did not think of it at all. My mind turned over foul and horrible forms in disordered array, but forms nonetheless; and I called it formless not because it lacked form, but because it had such a form that, if it appeared, my senses would turn away from it as strange and unfitting, and human weakness would be disturbed. But what I was thinking of was formless not by the lack of all form, but by comparison with more beautiful forms; and true reason was persuading me that I should strip away altogether every remnant of any form whatever, if I wanted to think of the wholly formless; and I could not. For I would sooner judge that what was deprived of all form did not exist than think of something between form and nothing, neither formed nor nothing, a formless almost-nothing. And my mind stopped questioning my spirit about this, filled as it was with images of formed bodies, changing and varying them at will; and I turned my attention to bodies themselves and looked more deeply into their changeableness, by which they cease to be what they had been and begin to be what they were not; and I suspected that this passage from form to form takes place through something formless, not through absolutely nothing. But I wanted to know, not to suspect. And if my voice and pen were to confess to you all that you have unraveled for me on this question, which of my readers would have the patience to grasp it? Yet my heart will not therefore cease to give you honor and a song of praise for the things it cannot put into words. For the changeableness of changeable things is itself capable of all the forms into which changeable things are changed. And what is this? Is it mind? Is it body? Is it some form of mind or body? If one could say "a nothing-something" and "an is-is-not," I would call it this; and yet it already existed in some way, so as to receive these visible and composite forms.
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Summary: Augustine once imagined formless matter as ugly forms; he came to see it as the changeableness beneath all change, a formless near-nothing.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.6 (CSEL 33:312–314; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.7CSEL 33:314
Et unde utcumque erat, ut species caperet istas uisibiles et conpositas, et unde utcumque erat, nisi esset abs te, a quo sunt omnia, in quantumcumque sunt? sed tanto a te longius, quanto dissimilius: neque enim locis. itaque tu, domine, qui non es alias aliud et alias aliter, sed id ipsum et id ipsum, sanctus, sanctus, sanctus, dominus deus omnipotens, in principio, quod est de te, in sapientia tua, quae nata est de substantia tua, fecisti aliquid et de nihilo. fecisti enim caelum et terram non de te: nam esset aequale unigenito tuo ac per hoc et tibi, et nullo modo iustum esset, ut aequale tibi esset, quod de te non esset. et aliud praeter te non erat, unde faceres ea, deus, una trinitas et trina unitas: et ideo de nihilo fecisti caelum et terram, magnum quiddam et paruum quiddam, quoniam omnipotens et bonus es ad facienda omnia bona, magnum caelum et paruam terram. tu eras et aliud nihil, unde fecisti caelum et terram, duo quaedam, unum prope te, alterum prope nihil, unum, quo superior tu esses, alterum, quo inferius nihil esset.
And from where did it exist in some way, so as to receive these visible and composite forms, and from where did it exist in any way at all, unless it were from you, from whom all things are, insofar as they are? But the more unlike you a thing is, the further it is from you; not in place. And so you, Lord, who are not one thing here and another there, nor otherwise here and otherwise there, but the Selfsame and the Selfsame and the Selfsame, "Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty," in the Beginning, which is from you, in your Wisdom, which is born of your substance, made something, and made it from nothing. For you made heaven and earth not from yourself; for then it would be equal to your only-begotten, and so to you as well; and it would in no way be right that anything should be equal to you which was not from you. And there was nothing else besides you from which you could make them, God, one Trinity and threefold Unity; and so you made heaven and earth from nothing, something great and something small, because you are almighty and good to make all things good: a great heaven and a small earth. You were, and nothing else, from which you made heaven and earth, two things: one close to you, the other close to nothing; one to which you alone would be superior, the other to which nothing would be inferior.
Isa 6:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Rev 4:8 (quotation, medium confidence) · Gen 1:1 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: God, the Trinity, made heaven and earth from nothing, not from himself, in his Wisdom, the Son.
- "The Selfsame" (id ipsum) is a name for God (compare Conf. 9.11). Quotation: Isa 6:3 (Rev 4:8).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u): istas nisibiles → istas uisibiles.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.7 (CSEL 33:314; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.8CSEL 33:314–316
Sed illud caelum caeli tibi, domine; terra autem, quam dedisti filiis hominum cernendam atque tangendam, non erat talis, qualem nunc cernimus et tangimus. inuisibilis enim erat et inconposita et abyssus erat, super quam non erat lux, aut tenebrae erant super abyssum, id est magis quam in abysso. ista quippe abyssus aquarum iam uisibilium etiam in profundis suis habet speciei suae lucem utcumque sensibilem piscibus et repentibus in suo fundo animantibus: illud autem totum prope nihil erat, quoniam adhuc omnino informe erat; iam tamen erat, quod formari poterat. tu enim, domine, fecisti mundum de materia informi, quam fecisti de nulla re paene nullam rem, unde faceres magna, quae miramur filii hominum. ualde hoc mirabile caelum corporeum, quod firmamentum inter aquam et aquam secundo die post conditionem lucis dixisti: fiat, et sic est factum. quod firmamentum uocasti caelum, sed caelum terrae huius et maris, quae fecisti tertio die dando speciem uisibilem informi materiae, quam fecisti ante omnem diem. iam enim feceras et caelum ante omnem diem, sed caelum caeli huius, quia in principio feceras caelum et terram. terra autem ipsa, quam feceras, informis materies erat, quia inuisibilis erat et inconposita et tenebrae super abyssum: de qua terra inuisibili et inconposita, de qua informitate, de quo paene nihilo faceres haec omnia, quibus iste mutabilis mundus constat et non constat, in quo ipsa mutabilitas apparet, in qua sentiri et dinumerari possunt tempora, quia rerum mutationibus fiunt tempora, dum uariantur et uertuntur species, quarum materies praedicta est terra inuisibilis.
But that heaven of heaven is yours, Lord; while the earth, which you gave to the sons of men to see and touch, was not such as we now see and touch. For it was invisible and unformed, and there was an abyss over which there was no light; or "darkness was over the abyss," that is, more than in the abyss. For this abyss of waters, which are now visible, has even in its depths a light of its own form, perceptible in some way to the fish and creatures that crawl on its bottom; but that whole was almost nothing, since it was still wholly formless; yet it already existed, something that could be formed. For you, Lord, "made the world from formless matter," which you made from nothing, an almost-nothing, from which to make the great things that we, the sons of men, marvel at. Very wonderful is this bodily heaven, the firmament between water and water, of which you said on the second day, after the creation of light, "Let it be made," and so it was made. This firmament you called heaven, but the heaven of this earth and sea, which you made on the third day by giving visible form to the formless matter which you made before any day. For you had already made a heaven before any day, but the heaven of this heaven, because "in the beginning you made heaven and earth." But the earth itself which you had made was formless matter, because it was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss. From this invisible and unformed earth, from this formlessness, from this almost-nothing, you would make all these things of which this changeable world consists and does not consist; in which changeableness itself appears, in which times can be perceived and counted, because times are made by the changes of things, while the forms vary and turn, whose matter is the invisible earth spoken of above.
Ps 115:16 (113:24 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:6–10 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: God made formless matter before any day, and from it made the visible heaven and earth, in which change and time appear.
- Quotations and allusions: Ps 115:16; Gen 1:2, 6-10; Wis 11:17; Gen 1:1.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 11:17 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.8 (CSEL 33:314–316; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.9CSEL 33:316
Ideoque spiritus, doctor famuli tui, cum te conmemorat fecisse in principio caelum et terram, tacet de temporibus, silet de diebus. nimirum enim caelum caeli, quod in principio fecisti, creatura est aliqua intellectualis, quamquam nequaquam tibi, trinitati, coaeterna, particeps tamen aeternitatis tuae, ualde mutabilitatem suam prae dulcedine felicissimae contemplationis tuae cohibet et sine ullo lapsu ex quo facta est inhaerendo tibi excedit omnem uolubilem uicissitudinem temporum. ista uero informitas, terra inuisibilis et inconposita, nec ipsa in diebus numerata est. ubi enim nulla species, nullus ordo, nec uenit quicquam et praeterit, et ubi hoc non fit, non sunt utique dies nec uicissitudo spatiorum temporalium.
And so the Spirit, the teacher of your servant, when he records that you made heaven and earth in the beginning, is silent about times, says nothing of days. For surely the heaven of heaven, which you made in the beginning, is some intellectual creation, which, although in no way coeternal with you, the Trinity, yet shares in your eternity; it greatly restrains its changeableness through the sweetness of its most blessed contemplation of you, and, clinging to you without any lapse from the moment it was made, it surpasses all the turning vicissitude of times. But that formlessness, the invisible and unformed earth, was not itself numbered among the days either. For where there is no form, no order, nothing comes and passes away; and where this does not happen, there are certainly no days, nor any vicissitude of temporal intervals.
Gen 1:1 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: The heaven of heaven, an intellectual creation cleaving to God, and formless matter are both outside the days and times.
- "Your servant": Moses, as the author of Genesis.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.9 (CSEL 33:316; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.10CSEL 33:316–317
O ueritas, lumen cordis mei, non tenebrae meae loquantur mihi. defluxi ad ista et obscuratus sum, sed hinc, etiam hinc adamaui te. erraui et recordatus sum tui. audiui uocem tuam post me, ut redirem, et uix audiui propter tumultus inpacatorum. et nunc ecce redeo aestuans et anhelans ad fontem tuum. nemo me prohibeat: hunc bibam et hunc uiuam. non ego uita mea sim: male nixi ex me, mors mihi fui: in te reuiuesco. tu me alloquere, tu mihi sermocinare. credidi libris tuis, et uerba eorum arcana ualde. iam dixisti mihi, domine, uoce forti in aurem interiorem.
O Truth, light of my heart, let not my darkness speak to me! I slid down to these things and was darkened; but from there, even from there, I loved you. I went astray, and I remembered you. I heard your voice behind me, calling me to return, and I scarcely heard it for the tumult of the restless. And now, see, I return, burning and panting, to your fountain. Let no one stop me: may I drink of it and live by it. Let me not be my own life: I lived badly from myself; I was death to myself; in you I revive. Speak to me, talk with me. I have believed your books, and their words are very deep. Already you have said to me, Lord, with a strong voice in my inner ear,
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Summary: Augustine turns from his darkness to God, the fountain of life, and listens to God's voice within.
- The sentence continues in 12.11.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: zero for O): 0 ueritas → O ueritas.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.10 (CSEL 33:316–317; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.11CSEL 33:317
quia tu aeternus es, solus habens inmortalitatem, quoniam ex nulla specie motuue mutaris nec temporibus uariatur uoluntas tua, quia non est immortalis uoluntas, quae alia et alia est. hoc in conspectu tuo claret mihi et magis magisque clarescat, oro te, atque in ea manifestatione persistam sobrius sub alis tuis. item dixisti mihi, domine, uoce forti in aurem interiorem, quod omnes naturas atque substantias, quae non sunt quod tu es et tamen sunt, tu fecisti: hoc solum a te non est, quod non est; motusque uoluntatis a te, qui es, ad id quod minus est, quia talis motus delictum atque peccatum est, et quod nullius peccatum aut tibi nocet aut perturbat ordinem imperii tui uel in primo uel in imo. hoc in conspectu tuo claret mihi et magis magisque clarescat, oro te, atque in ea manifestatione persistam sobrius sub alis tuis.
that you are eternal, "who alone have immortality," since you are not changed by any form or motion, nor is your will varied by times; for a will which is now one thing and now another is not immortal. This is clear to me in your sight; let it become clearer and clearer, I pray you, and in that manifestation let me abide soberly under your wings. Likewise you have said to me, Lord, with a strong voice in my inner ear, that you made all natures and substances which are not what you are and yet exist; that only what does not exist is not from you; and that the motion of the will away from you, who are, toward what is less is not from you, because such a motion is a fault and a sin; and that no one's sin either harms you or disturbs the order of your rule, either in the highest or in the lowest. This is clear to me in your sight; let it become clearer and clearer, I pray you, and in that manifestation let me abide soberly under your wings.
1 Tim 6:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 17:8 (16:8 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: God is eternal and unchangeable; he made all that exists, and sin, a turning away from him, is not from him.
- Quotation: 1 Tim 6:16; allusion Ps 17:8.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.11 (CSEL 33:317; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.12CSEL 33:317–318
Item dixisti mihi uoce forti in aurem interiorem, quod nec illa creatura tibi coaeterna est, cuius uoluptas tu solus es teque perseuerantissima castitate hauriens mutabilitatem suam nusquam et numquam exerit et te sibi semper praesente, ad quem toto affectu se tenet, non habens futurum quod expectet nec in praeteritum traiciens quod meminerit, nulla uice uariatur nec in tempora ulla distenditur. o beata, si qua ista est, inhaerendo beatitudini tuae, beata sempiterno inhabitatore te atque inlustratore suo! nec inuenio, quid libentius appellandum existimem caelum caeli domino quam domum tuam contemplantem delectationem tuam sine ullo defectu egrediendi in aliud, mentem puram concordissime unam stabilimento pacis sanctorum spirituum, ciuium ciuitatis tuae in caelestibus super ista caelestia.
Likewise you have said to me with a strong voice in my inner ear that not even that creation is coeternal with you whose delight you alone are, and which, drinking you in with most persevering chastity, never and nowhere shows its changeableness; and with you always present to it, to whom it holds with all its love, having no future to expect and transferring nothing into the past to remember, it is not varied by any change nor distended into any times. O blessed creation, if there is such, blessed in clinging to your blessedness, blessed in you, its eternal indweller and enlightener! Nor do I find anything I would more gladly call "the heaven of heaven, which is the Lord's" than your house, which contemplates your delight without any failing that would lead it out to anything else: a pure mind, most harmoniously one in the stable peace of holy spirits, the citizens of your city in the heavens above these heavens.
Ps 115:16 (113:24 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 27:4 (26:4 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The heaven of heaven is God's house, a pure created mind that clings to God without change.
- Quotation: Ps 115:16; allusion Ps 27:4.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR garble; OCR: n for u): inlnstratore → inlustratore; domino quapi domum → domino quam domum.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.12 (CSEL 33:317–318; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.13CSEL 33:318
Vnde intellegat anima, cuius peregrinatio longinqua facta est, si iam sitit tibi, si iam factae sunt ei lacrimae suae panis, dum dicitur ei per singulos dies: ubi est deus tuus? si iam petit a te unam et hanc requirit, ut inhabitet in domo tua per omnes dies uitae suae? et quae uita eius nisi tu? et qui dies tui nisi aeternitas tua, sicut anni tui, qui non deficiunt, quia idem ipse es? hinc ergo intellegat anima, quae potest, quam longe super omnia tempora sis aeternus, quando tua domus, quae peregrinata non est, quamuis non sit tibi coaeterna, tamen indesinenter et indeficienter tibi cohaerendo nullam patitur uicissitudinem temporum. hoc in conspectu tuo claret mihi et magis magisque clarescat, oro te, atque in hac manifestatione persistam sobrius sub alis tuis.
From this let the soul understand, whose pilgrimage has taken it into a far country, if it now thirsts for you, if its tears have now become its bread while it is asked day by day, "Where is your God?", if it now asks of you "one thing" and seeks it, "that it may dwell in your house all the days of its life" (and what is its life but you? and what are your days but your eternity, like your years, which do not fail, because you are the same?): from this, then, let the soul understand, as far as it can, how far above all times you are eternal, when your house, which has never gone on pilgrimage, although it is not coeternal with you, yet, by clinging to you unceasingly and unfailingly, suffers no vicissitude of times. This is clear to me in your sight; let it become clearer and clearer, I pray you, and in this manifestation let me abide soberly under your wings.
Luke 15:13 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 42:2–3 (41:3-Ps Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 27:4 (26:4 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 102:27 (101:28 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: God's house, which never left him, suffers no change of times; the wandering soul longs to dwell there.
- Quotations and allusions: Luke 15:13; Ps 42:2-3; Ps 27:4; Ps 102:27.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (split word): u t inhabitet → ut inhabitet.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.13 (CSEL 33:318; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.14CSEL 33:318–319
Ecce nescio quid informe in istis mutationibus rerum extremarum atque infirmarum, et quis dicet mihi, nisi quisquis per inania cordis sui cum suis phantasmatis uagatur et uoluitur, quis nisi talis dicet mihi, quod deminuta atque consumpta omni specie, si sola remaneat informitas, per quam de specie in speciem res mutabatur et uertebatur, possit exhibere uices temporum? omnino enim non potest, quia sine uarietate motionum non sunt tempora: et nulla uarietas, ubi nulla species.
See, there is something formless in these changes of the lowest and weakest things; and who will tell me (unless it be someone who wanders and tosses about through the empty places of his heart with his own phantoms), who but such a one will tell me that, if all form were diminished and used up, and there remained only the formlessness through which a thing was changed and turned from form to form, it could display the succession of times? It cannot at all, because without variety of motions there are no times, and there is no variety where there is no form.
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Summary: Pure formlessness could not show the succession of time, since time requires change of form.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.14 (CSEL 33:318–319; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Knöll's Latin text (CSEL 33, 1896); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 1 translation (Pilkington, 1886).
12.15CSEL 33:319–320
Quibus consideratis, deus meus, quantum donas, quantum me ad pulsandum excitas quantumque pulsanti aperis, duo reperio, quae fecisti carentia temporibus, cum tibi neutrum coaeternum sit: unum, quod ita formatum est, ut sine ullo defectu contemplationis, sine ullo interuallo mutationis, quamuis mutabile, tamen non mutatum aeternitate atque inconmutabilitate perfruatur; alterum, quod ita informe erat, ut ex qua forma in quam formam uel motionis uel stationis mutaretur, quo tempori subderetur, non haberet. sed hoc ut informe esset, non reliquisti, quoniam fecisti ante omnem diem in principio caelum et terram, haec duo quae dicebam. terra autem inuisibilis erat et inconposita et tenebrae super abyssum. quibus uerbis insinuatur informitas, ut gradatim excipiantur, qui omnimodam speciei priuationem nec tamen ad nihil peruentionem cogitare non possent, unde fieret alterum caelum et terra uisibilis atque conposita et aqua speciosa et quidquid deinceps in constitutione huius mundi non sine diebus factum conmemoratur, quia talia sunt, ut in eis agantur uicissitudines temporum propter ordinatas conmutationes motionum atque formarum.
Having considered these things, my God, as far as you grant it, as far as you rouse me to knock and open to me when I knock, I find two things which you made without times, although neither is coeternal with you: one, so formed that, without any failing of contemplation, without any interval of change, though changeable yet unchanged, it enjoys eternity and unchangeableness; the other, so formless that it had nothing from which to be changed into any form, whether of motion or of rest, so as to be subject to time. But you did not leave this to be formless, since before any day "in the beginning you made heaven and earth," these two things I was speaking of. "But the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss." By these words formlessness is suggested, so that those may be led on step by step who could not think of a total lack of form which yet does not amount to nothing; from which would be made the second heaven and the visible and ordered earth, and the beautiful water, and whatever else is recorded as made thereafter in the establishing of this world, not without days, since they are such that in them the successions of times take place because of the ordered changes of motions and forms.
Matt 7:7 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gen 1:1–2 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Two things were made outside time: the heaven of heaven, fully formed, and formless matter; the rest were made in days.
- Quotations: Gen 1:1-2; allusion Matt 7:7.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.15 (CSEL 33:319–320; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.16CSEL 33:320
Hoc interim sentio, deus meus, cum audio loquentem scripturam tuam: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram: terra autem erat inuisibilis et inconposita et tenebrae erant super abyssum, neque conmemorantem, quoto die feceris haec, sic interim sentio propter illud caelum caeli, caelum intellectuale, ubi est intellectus nosse simul, non ex parte, non in aenigmate, non per speculum, sed ex toto, in manifestatione, facie ad faciem; non modo hoc, modo illud, sed, quod dictum est, nosse simul sine ulla uicissitudine temporum, et propter inuisibilem atque inconpositam terram sine ulla uicissitudine temporum, quae solet habere modo hoc et modo illud, quia ubi nulla species, nusquam est hoc et illud: propter duo haec, primitus formatum et penitus informe, illud caelum, sed caelum caeli, hoc uero terram, sed terram inuisibilem et inconpositam, propter duo haec interim sentio sine commemoratione dierum dicere scripturam tuam: in principio fecit deus caelum et terram. statim quippe subiecit, quam terram dixerit. et quod secundo die commemoratur factum firmamentum et uocatum, caelum insinuat, de quo caelo prius sine diebus sermo locutus sit.
Meanwhile, my God, this is what I understand when I hear your Scripture saying, "In the beginning God made heaven and earth; but the earth was invisible and unformed, and darkness was over the abyss," and not mentioning on which day you made these things. This, meanwhile, is what I understand: that it is because of that heaven of heaven, the intellectual heaven, where understanding is knowing all at once, not in part, not in a riddle, not through a mirror, but wholly, openly, face to face; not now this, now that, but, as has been said, knowing all at once without any succession of times; and because of the invisible and unformed earth, without any succession of times, which usually has now this and now that, because where there is no form, there is nowhere this and that: because of these two, the one formed from the first and the other wholly formless, the one heaven, but the heaven of heaven, the other earth, but invisible and unformed earth: because of these two, meanwhile, I understand that your Scripture says, without mentioning days, "In the beginning God made heaven and earth." For it immediately added what earth it meant. And by recording that on the second day the firmament was made and called heaven, it suggests which heaven had been spoken of earlier, without days.
Gen 1:1–2 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:6–8 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Genesis mentions no day for the first creation because it means the timeless heaven of heaven and formless matter.
- Quotations and allusions: Gen 1:1-2; 1 Cor 13:12; Gen 1:6-8.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.16 (CSEL 33:320; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.17CSEL 33:320–321
Mira profunditas eloquiorum tuorum, quorum ecce ante nos superficies blandiens paruulis: sed mira profunditas, deus meus, mira profunditas! horror est intendere in eam, horror honoris et tremor amoris. odi hostes eius uehementer: o si occidas eos de gladio bis acuto, et non sint hostes eius! sic enim amo eos occidi sibi, ut uiuant tibi. ecce autem alii non reprehensores, sed laudatores libri Geneseos: "non" inquiunt "hoc uoluit in his uerbis intellegi spiritus dei, qui per Moysen famulum eius ista conscripsit, non hoc uoluit intellegi, quod tu dicis, sed aliud, quod nos dicimus." quibus ego te arbitro, deus omnium nostrum, ita respondeo.
Wonderful is the depth of your words! See, their surface is before us, caressing little ones; but wonderful is the depth, my God, wonderful the depth! It is awe-inspiring to look into it: the awe of reverence and the trembling of love. I hate its enemies vehemently: oh, that you would slay them with the two-edged sword, so that they might be its enemies no more! For so I love them to be slain to themselves, that they may live to you. But see, others, not critics but praisers of the book of Genesis, say: "The Spirit of God, who wrote these things through Moses his servant, did not intend this to be understood by these words; he did not intend what you say, but something else, which we say." To them, with you as judge, God of us all, I answer thus.
Ps 139:21–22 (138:21-Ps Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 4:12 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Scripture's depth is wonderful; Augustine turns to answer those who accept Genesis but interpret it differently.
- "I hate its enemies" echoes Ps 139:21-22; the "slaying" Augustine wishes is their conversion. Allusions: Ps 139:21-22; Heb 4:12.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.17 (CSEL 33:320–321; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.18CSEL 33:321–322
Num dicetis falsa esse, quae mihi ueritas uoce forti in aurem interiorem dicit de uera aeternitate creatoris, quod nequaquam eius substantia per tempora uarietur nec eius uoluntas extra eius substantiam sit? unde non eum modo uelle hoc modo uelle illud, sed semel et simul et semper uelle omnia quae uult, non iterum et iterum neque nunc ista nunc illa nec uelle postea quod nolebat aut nolle quod uolebat prius, quia talis uoluntas mutabilis est et omne mutabile aeternum non est; deus autem noster aeternus est. item, quod mihi dicit in aurem interiorem, expectatio rerum uenturarum fit contuitus, cum uenerint, idemque contuitus fit memoria, cum praeterierint: omnis porro intentio, quae ita uariatur, mutabilis est, et omne mutabile aeternum non est: deus autem noster aeternus est. haec colligo atque coniungo et inuenio deum meum, deum aeternum non aliqua noua uoluntate condidisse creaturam nec scientiam eius transitorium aliquid pati.
Will you say that what the Truth tells me with a strong voice in my inner ear about the true eternity of the Creator is false: that his substance is in no way varied by times, nor is his will outside his substance? So he does not will now this and now that, but once, and at once, and always he wills all that he wills; not again and again, nor now these things and now those; nor does he will afterward what he did not will, or not will what he willed before; because such a will is changeable, and nothing changeable is eternal; but our God is eternal. Likewise what it tells me in my inner ear: the expectation of things to come becomes direct attention when they come, and the same direct attention becomes memory when they have passed; and every attention which varies in this way is changeable, and nothing changeable is eternal; but our God is eternal. These things I gather and join together, and I find that my God, the eternal God, did not establish creation by some new will, nor does his knowledge undergo anything transitory.
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Summary: God's will and knowledge are eternal and unchanging; creation came from no new will in God.
- The terms follow Book 11: expectatio "expectation," contuitus "direct attention," memoria "memory."
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: n for u; stray period): nolle quod nolebat prius → nolle quod uolebat prius; aeternum. non est; → aeternum non est;.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.18 (CSEL 33:321–322; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.19CSEL 33:322
Quid ergo dicetis, contradictores? an falsa sunt ista? "non" inquiunt. quid illud? num falsum est omnem naturam formatam materiamue formabilem non esse nisi ab illo, qui summe bonus est, quia summe est? "neque hoc negamus" inquiunt. quid igitur? an illud negatis, sublimem quandam esse creaturam tam casto amore cohaerentem deo uero et uere aeterno, ut, quamuis ei coaeterna non sit, in nullam tamen temporum uarietatem et uicissitudinem ab illo se resoluat et defluat, sed in eius solius ueracissima contemplatione requiescat, quoniam tu, deus, diligenti te, quantum praecipis, ostendis ei te et sufficis ei, et ideo non declinat a te nec a se? haec est domus dei non terrena neque ulla caelesti mole corporea, sed spiritalis et particeps aeternitatis tuae, quia sine labe in aeternum. statuisti enim eam in saeculum et in saeculum saeculi; praeceptum posuisti et non praeteribit. nec tamen tibi coaeterna, quoniam non sine initio: facta est enim.
What, then, will you say, you who object? Are these things false? "No," they say. What of this? Is it false that every formed nature, or matter capable of form, exists only from him who is supremely good, because he supremely is? "We do not deny this either," they say. What, then? Do you deny that there is a certain sublime creation, cleaving with such chaste love to the true and truly eternal God that, although it is not coeternal with him, it does not loosen itself or flow away from him into any variety or succession of times, but rests in the most true contemplation of him alone; because you, God, show yourself to one who loves you as much as you command, and are sufficient for it; and therefore it does not turn aside from you or toward itself? This is the house of God, not earthly, nor of any heavenly bodily mass, but spiritual and sharing in your eternity, because it is without stain for ever. For "you have established it for ever and for ever and ever; you have set a decree, and it will not pass away." Yet it is not coeternal with you, since it is not without a beginning; for it was made.
Ps 148:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:1 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The objectors grant that there is a spiritual creation, God's house, which cleaves to him without change though it was made.
- Quotation: Ps 148:6; allusion 2 Cor 5:1.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: c for r; OCR: dropped letter (marked sic in the digital text)): uero et uece aeterno → uero et uere aeterno; aeracissima → ueracissima.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.19 (CSEL 33:322; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.20CSEL 33:322–323
Nam etsi non inuenimus tempus ante illam — prior quippe omnium creata est sapientia — nec utique illa sapientia tibi, deus noster, patri suo, plane coaeterna et coaequalis et per quam creata sunt omnia et in quo principio fecisti caelum et terram, sed profecto sapientia, quae creata est, intellectualis natura scilicet, quae contemplatione luminis lumen est — dicitur enim et ipsa, quamuis creata, sapientia; sed quantum interest inter lumen, quod inluminat et quod inluminatur, tantum inter sapientiam, quae creat, et istam, quae creata est, sicut inter iustitiam iustificantem et iustitiam, quae iustificatione facta est; nam et nos dicti sumus iustitia tua; ait enim quidam seruus tuus: ut nos simus iustitia dei in ipso — ergo quia prior omnium creata est quaedam sapientia, quae creata est, mens rationalis et intellectualis castae ciuitatis tuae, matris nostrae, quae sursum est et libera est et aeterna in caelis — quibus caelis, nisi qui te laudant caeli caelorum, quia hoc est et caelum caeli domino? — etsi non inuenimus tempus ante illam, quia et creaturam temporis antecedit quae prior omnium creata est, ante illam tamen est ipsius creatoris aeternitas, a quo facta sumpsit exordium, quamuis non temporis, quia nondum erat tempus, ipsius tamen conditionis suae.
For even though we find no time before it (for "wisdom was created before all things"), certainly not that Wisdom which is fully coeternal and coequal with you, our God, its Father, through which all things were created and in which Beginning you made heaven and earth; but the wisdom which was created, that is, the intellectual nature, which is light by contemplating the Light (for it too, although created, is called wisdom; but as great as the difference between the Light that enlightens and that which is enlightened, so great is the difference between the Wisdom that creates and this which was created, as between the justice that justifies and the justice that has been produced by justification; for we too are called your justice, since a servant of yours says, "that we might become the justice of God in him"): so, since a certain wisdom was created before all things, the created, rational, and intellectual mind of your chaste city, our mother, which is above and is free and eternal in the heavens (in which heavens, if not those that praise you, the heavens of heavens, since this is also "the heaven of heaven, which is the Lord's"?), even though we find no time before it, because what was created before all things precedes also the creation of time, yet before it is the eternity of the Creator himself, from whom, having been made, it took its beginning: not a beginning in time, because there was not yet time, but the beginning of its own existence.
John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 4:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 148:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 115:16 (113:24 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The created wisdom, the heavenly city, was made before time, but the Creator's eternity precedes it.
- Augustine distinguishes the created "wisdom" of Sir 1:4 from the uncreated Wisdom, the Son. "Justice" (iustitia) is kept for the wordplay ("righteousness" in most English Bibles). Quotations: Sir 1:4; 2 Cor 5:21; Gal 4:26; Ps 148:4; Ps 115:16; allusion John 1:3.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (joined words (marked sic in the digital text)): creataest → creata est.
Extrabiblical texts: Sir 1:4 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.20 (CSEL 33:322–323; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.21CSEL 33:323–324
Vnde ita est abs te, deo nostro, ut aliud sit plane quam tu et non id ipsum, et non solum ante illam, sed nec in illa inuenimus tempus, quia est idonea faciem tuam semper uidere nec uspiam deflectitur ab ea; quo fit, ut nulla mutatione uarietur. inest ei tamen ipsa mutabilitas, unde tenebresceret et frigesceret, nisi amore grandi tibi cohaerens tamquam semper meridies luceret et ferueret ex te. o domus luminosa et speciosa, dilexi decorem tuum et locum habitationis gloriae domini mei, fabricatoris et possessoris tui! tibi suspiret peregrinatio mea, et dico ei qui fecit te, ut possideat et me in te, quia fecit et me. erraui sicut ouis perdita, sed in umeris pastoris mei, structoris tui, spero me reportari tibi.
So it is from you, our God, in such a way that it is clearly other than you and not the Selfsame; and we find time not only not before it, but not even in it, because it is fit always to see your face and never turns away from it anywhere; so it is not varied by any change. Yet changeableness itself is in it, by which it would grow dark and cold, unless, clinging to you with great love, it shone and burned from you as in an everlasting noon. O house full of light and beauty, "I have loved your beauty and the place of the dwelling of the glory" of my Lord, your builder and owner! Let my pilgrimage sigh for you, and I say to him who made you that he may possess me too in you, since he made me too. "I have gone astray like a lost sheep"; but on the shoulders of my Shepherd, your builder, I hope to be carried back to you.
Matt 18:10 (allusion, medium confidence) · Ps 26:8 (25:8 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 119:176 (118:176 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 15:5 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: God's house is not the Selfsame but never turns from God's face; Augustine longs to be carried back to it.
- Quotations and allusions: Matt 18:10; Ps 26:8; Ps 119:176; Luke 15:5.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.21 (CSEL 33:323–324; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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12.22CSEL 33:324
Quid dicitis mihi quos alloquebar contradictores, qui tamen et Moysen pium famulum dei et libros eius oracula sancti spiritus creditis? estne ista domus dei, non quidem deo coaeterna, sed tamen secundum modum suum aeterna in caelis, ubi uices temporum frustra quaeritis, quia non inuenitis? supergreditur enim omnem distentionem et omne spatium aetatis uolubile, cui semper inhaerere deo bonum est. "est" inquiunt. quid igitur ex his, quae clamauit cor meum ad deum meum, cum audiret interius uocem laudis eius, quid tandem falsum esse contenditis? an quia erat informis materies, ubi propter nullam formam nullus ordo erat? ubi autem nullus ordo erat, nulla esse uicissitudo temporum poterat; et tamen hoc paene nihil in quantum non omnino nihil erat, ab illo utique erat, a quo est quidquid est, quod utcumque aliquid est. "hoc quoque" aiunt "non negamus".
What do you say to me, you objectors whom I was addressing, who nevertheless believe that Moses was a devout servant of God and that his books are the oracles of the Holy Spirit? Is not this the house of God, not indeed coeternal with God, yet in its own way "eternal in the heavens," where you seek changes of times in vain, because you do not find them? For it surpasses all distension and every revolving span of time, since "it is good for it always to cling to God." "It is," they say. What, then, of the things my heart cried out to my God when it heard inwardly the voice of his praise, what do you finally maintain is false? Is it that there was formless matter, where, because there was no form, there was no order? But where there was no order, there could be no succession of times; and yet this almost-nothing, insofar as it was not wholly nothing, was certainly from him from whom is whatever is, that is anything at all. "This too," they say, "we do not deny."
2 Cor 5:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 73:28 (72:28 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 26:7 (25:7 Vulg.) (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: The objectors also grant that formless matter, an almost-nothing without time, came from God.
- Quotations and allusions: 2 Cor 5:1; Ps 73:28; Ps 26:7.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Conf. 12.22 (CSEL 33:324; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-confessions/11-36/#p-12-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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