Against the Nations 1.29–1.51
Latin text: CSEL 4 (Latin text: A. Reifferscheid (CSEL 4, 1875), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 6 (1886).
Chapter 1
1.29CSEL 4:19–20
atque utinam daretur in unius speciem contionis toto orbe contracto oratione hac uti et humani in generis audientia conlocari. ergone impiae religionis sumus apud uos rei, et quod caput rerum et columen uenerabilibus adimus obsequiis, ut conuicio utamur uestro, infausti et athei nuncupamur? et quis magis rectius horum feret inuidiam nominum, quam qui alium prae hoc deum aut nouit aut sciscitatur aut credit? nonne huic omnes debemus hoc ipsum primum, quod sumus, quod esse homines dicimur, quod ab eo uel missae animae uel lapsae caecitate huius in corporis continemur? non quod incedimus, quod spiramus et uiuimus, ab eo ad nos uenit uique ipsa uiuendi efficit nos esse et animali agitatione motari? nonne ab hoc effluunt causae, per quas nostra fulcitur salus uariarum munificentia uoluptatum? mundus iste in quo degitis, cuius est aut quis eius uobis attribuit fructum possessionemque retinere? quis, ut subiectas res cernere, ut contrectare, ut considerare possetis, publicum istud lumen dedit? quis, ne fixa pigritiae stupore torpescerent elementa uitalia, solis ignes constituit ad rerum incrementa futuros? solem deum cum esse credatis, conditorem eius opificemque non quaeritis? luna cum apud uos dea sit, non similiter scire curatis genitor eius et fabricator quis sit?
And would that it were granted me, with the whole world gathered into the form of a single assembly, to use this speech and to be placed in the hearing of the human race! Are we then accused among you of an impious religion, and because we approach the Head and Pillar of all things with reverent service, are we called, to use your abuse, ill-omened and atheists? And who would more rightly bear the odium of these names than one who knows, or inquires after, or believes in another god besides him? Do we not all owe to him this first of all, that we exist, that we are called human beings, that, whether sent from him or fallen away, we souls are held in the blindness of this body? Does it not come to us from him that we walk, breathe, and live, and does he not, by the very power of living, make us exist and be moved with the motion of a living being? Do not the causes flow from him by which our well-being is supported through the bounty of various pleasures? This world in which you live, whose is it? Or who has granted you to hold its fruit and possession? Who gave you this common light, so that you could see, handle, and consider the things placed beneath you? Who established the fires of the sun, to serve the growth of things, so that the vital elements should not grow numb in the stupor of fixed inertia? When you believe the sun to be a god, do you not ask who its founder and maker is? Since the moon is a goddess among you, do you not likewise care to know who is her begetter and fashioner?
Acts 17:28 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: All that human beings are and enjoy comes from the supreme God, so those who worship other gods, not Christians, deserve the name of impious.
- 'Whether sent from him or fallen away' leaves open the origin of souls, a question Arnobius treats at length in Book 2. 'P' in the digital text stands for a question mark.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (question mark misread as a letter in the digital text): uoluptatum P mundus → uoluptatum? mundus.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.29 (CSEL 4:19–20; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.30CSEL 4:20
nonne cogitatio uos subit considerare, disquirere, in cuia possessione uersemini, cuia in re sitis, cuius ista sit quam fatigatis terra, cuius aer iste quem uitali reciprocatis spiritu, cuius abutamini fontibus, cuius liquore, quis uentorum disposuerit flamina, quis undosas excogitauerit nubes, quis seminum frugiferas potestates rationum proprietate distinxerit? Apollo uobis pluit, Mercurius uobis pluit, Aesculapius, Hercules aut Diana rationem imbrium tempestatumque finxerunt? et hoc fieri qui potest, cum in mundo profiteamini eos natos certoque tempore sensum adripuisse uitalem? si enim temporis antiquitate mundus eos anteuenit et priusquam nati sunt iam nouerat pluuias tempestatesque natura, nullum serius nati pluendi ius habent neque eis inserere rationibus se possunt quas inuenerunt hic agi et maiore ab auctore tractari.
Does it not occur to you to consider and inquire in whose possession you dwell, on whose property you are, whose is this earth which you wear out with labor, whose this air which you breathe in and out with the breath of life, whose springs you use freely, whose water; who ordered the blasts of the winds, who devised the watery clouds, who distinguished the fruitful powers of seeds by their proper natures? Does Apollo rain for you? Does Mercury rain for you? Did Aesculapius, Hercules, or Diana devise the system of rains and storms? And how can this be, when you declare that they were born in the world and at a certain time acquired the sense of life? For if the world preceded them in antiquity of time, and nature already knew rains and storms before they were born, those born later have no right to rain and cannot intrude themselves into arrangements which they found operating here and managed by a greater author.
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Summary: The gods, born later than the world, cannot be the authors of the rain and seasons they found already in operation.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.30 (CSEL 4:20; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.31CSEL 4:20–21
o maxima, o summe rerum inuisibilium procreator, o ipse inuisus et nullis umquam conprehense naturis, dignus, dignus es uere, si modo te dignum mortali dicendum est ore, cui spirans omnis intelligensque natura et habere et agere numquam desinat gratias, cui tota conueniat uita genu nixo procumbere et continuatis precibus supplicare. prima enim tu causa es, locus rerum ac spatium, fundamentum cunctorum quaecumque sunt, infinitus ingenitus inmortalis perpetuus solus, quem nulla deliniat forma corporalis, nulla determinat circumscriptio, qualitatis expers, expers quantitatis, sine situ motu et habitu, de quo nihil dici et exprimi mortalium potis est significatione uerborum, qui ut intellegaris tacendum est atque ut per umbram te possit errans inuestigare suspicio, nihil est omnino muttiendum. da ueniam, rex summe, tuos persequentibus famulos, et quod tuae benignitatis est proprium, fugientibus ignosce tui nominis et religionis cultum. non est mirum, si ignoraris, maioris est admirationis, si sciaris, nisi forte audet quisquam — hoc enim furiosae restat insaniae — ambigere, dubitare, an sit iste deus an non sit, explorata fidei ueritate an rumoris cassi opinatione sit creditus. audimus enim quosdam philosophandi studio deditos partim ullam negare uim esse diuinam partim an sit cotidie quaerere; alios casibus fortuitis et concursionibus temerariis summam rerum construere atque diuersitatis impetu fabricari, cum quibus hoc tempore nullum nobis omnino super tali erit obstinatione certamen. aiunt enim sana sentientes contradicere rebus stultis stultitiae esse maioris.
O greatest, O supreme Creator of things invisible! O you who are yourself unseen and never comprehended by any nature! Worthy, truly worthy are you, if indeed you may be called worthy by a mortal mouth, to whom every breathing and understanding nature should never cease to give and render thanks, before whom all life should fall on bended knee and pray with unceasing prayers. For you are the first cause, the place and space of things, the foundation of all things that exist, infinite, unbegotten, immortal, everlasting, alone; whom no bodily form outlines, no circumscription bounds; without quality, without quantity, without position, motion, or state; of whom nothing can be said or expressed by the meaning of mortal words; to understand whom we must be silent, and, so that erring conjecture may trace you as though through a shadow, nothing at all must be uttered. Pardon, supreme King, those who persecute your servants, and, as is proper to your kindness, forgive those who flee from the worship of your name and religion. It is no wonder if you are unknown; it is a greater wonder if you are known. Unless perhaps someone dares, for this remains to raving madness, to doubt and question whether this God exists or not, whether he is believed on the ascertained truth of faith or on the opinion of empty rumor. For we hear that some who are devoted to the study of philosophy partly deny that there is any divine power, partly ask every day whether there is; others build up the sum of things from chance events and random collisions and have it fashioned by the impulse of diverse elements. With these we will have no dispute at all at this time over such obstinacy; for sensible people say that to contradict foolish things is a mark of greater foolishness.
Luke 23:34 (echo, low confidence)
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Summary: Arnobius breaks into a prayer to the supreme, unknowable God, asking pardon for persecutors, and sets aside atheists and atomists as not worth refuting.
- The atomists are the Epicureans. Three stray periods in the digital text are removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): per umbram. te → per umbram te; ueritate. an rumoris → ueritate an rumoris; uim esse. diuinam → uim esse diuinam.
Topics: Prayer, Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.31 (CSEL 4:20–21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.32CSEL 4:21
sermo cum his nobis est, qui unum esse consentientes genus de maioribus dubitant, cum idem esse plebeia atque humiliora fateantur. quid ergo, res tantas argumentis nitemur atque elaborabimus obtinere? discedat haec longe atque a nobis procul, procul inquam, ut dicitur, auerruncetur amentia. tam est enim periculosum argumentis adgredi deum principem conprobare quam ratione huiusmodi esse illum uelle cognoscere. nec quicquam refert aut discrepat, utrumne neges illum an asseras atque existere fatearis, cum in eadem culpa sit et adsertio talis rei et abnegatio refutatoris increduli.
Our discussion is with those who, while agreeing that there is a race of gods, doubt about the greater, though they admit that the common and lower ones exist. What then, shall we strive with arguments and labor to establish such great things? Let this madness depart far from us, far, I say, and be averted, as the saying goes. For it is as dangerous to set out to prove the supreme God by arguments as to want to know by reasoning of this kind that he exists. And it makes no difference whether you deny him or assert and confess that he exists, since the assertion of such a thing and the denial of an unbelieving opponent are equally at fault.
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Summary: Arnobius refuses to prove the existence of the supreme God by argument, as though it were in doubt.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.32 (CSEL 4:21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-32). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.33CSEL 4:21–22
quisquamne est hominum, qui non cum istius principis notione diem primae natiuitatis intrauerit? cui non sit ingenitum, non adfixum, immo ipsius paene in genitalibus matris non impressum, non insitum, esse regem ac dominum cunctorum quaecumque sunt moderatorem? ipsa denique hiscere si animantia muta potis essent, si in linguarum nostrarum facilitatem solui, immo si arbores glaebae saxa sensu animata uitali uocis sonitum quirent et uerborum articulos integrare, ita non duce natura et magistra, non incorruptae simplicitatis fide et intellegerent esse deum et cunctorum dominum solum esse clamarent?
Is there any human being who has not entered on the day of his first birth with the notion of this First Principle? In whom is it not inborn, not fixed, indeed almost stamped and implanted in the very womb of his mother, that there is a King and Lord, the ruler of all things that exist? Finally, if dumb animals themselves could open their mouths, if they could be loosed into the ease of our languages, indeed if trees, clods, and stones, animated by vital sense, could produce the sound of a voice and form articulate words, would they not, with nature as their guide and teacher, in the faith of uncorrupted simplicity, both understand that there is a God and cry aloud that he alone is Lord of all?
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Summary: Knowledge of the supreme God is inborn in all people, and even nature would proclaim him if it could speak.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.33 (CSEL 4:21–22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.34CSEL 4:22
sed frustra, inquit, nos falso et calumnioso incessitis et adpetitis crimine, tamquam eamus infitias esse deum maiorem, cum a nobis et Iuppiter nominetur et optimus habeatur et maximus cumque illi augustissimas sedes et Capitolia constituerimus immania. dissimilia copulare atque in unam speciem cogere inducta confusione conamini. nam deus omnipotens mente una omnium et communi mortalitatis adsensu neque genitus scitur neque nouam in lucem aliquando esse prolatus nec ex aliquo temporis puncto coepisse esse uel saeculo. ipse est enim fons rerum, sator saeculorum ac temporum. non enim ipsa per se sunt sed ex eius perpetuitate perpetua et infinita semper continuatione procedunt. at uero Iuppiter ut uos fertis et patrem habet et matrem, auos auias fratres, nunc nuper in utero matris suae formatus, absolutus mensibus et consummatus dicitur decem ignotam sibi in lucem sensu inruisse uitali. ergo, si haec ita sunt, Iuppiter esse deus qui potest, cum illum esse perpetuum constet et perhibeatur alter a uobis et dies habuisse natales et pauefactus re noua lamentabilem extulisse uagitum?
'But in vain,' he says, 'do you assail and attack us with a false and slanderous charge, as though we denied that there is a greater God, when Jupiter is named by us and held Best and Greatest, and we have built him the most august seats and huge Capitols.' You are trying to join things unlike and force them into one form by introducing confusion. For the almighty God, by the single mind of all and the common agreement of mortals, is known neither to have been begotten, nor to have been brought forth at some time into new light, nor to have begun to exist from any point of time or age. For he himself is the source of things, the sower of ages and times. They do not exist of themselves, but proceed from his everlastingness, everlasting and in infinite continuity forever. But Jupiter, as you say, has a father and a mother, grandfathers, grandmothers, and brothers; he was lately formed in his mother's womb, and, completed and finished in ten months, is said to have burst with living sense into a light unknown to him. If then this is so, how can Jupiter be the God, when it is agreed that God is everlasting, and the other is represented by you as having had a birthday and, frightened by the new experience, as having uttered a pitiful wail?
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Summary: Jupiter, who was born and had parents, cannot be identified with the eternal, unbegotten God.
- 'ten months': the ancient reckoning of a full pregnancy in lunar months. A stray comma after 'at' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray comma in the digital text): at, uero → at uero.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.34 (CSEL 4:22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-34). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.35CSEL 4:22–23
sed sint, ut uultis, unum nec in aliqua ui numinis et maiestate distantes: ecquid ergo iniustis persequimini nos odiis? quid ut ominis pessimi nostri nominis inhorrescitis mentionem, si quem deum colitis, eum et nos? aut quid in eadem causa nobis esse contenditis familiares deos, inimicos atque infestissimos nobis? etenim si una religio est nobis uobisque communis, cessat ira caelestium: sin nobis infesti sunt solis, manifestum est nescire et uos et illos deum, quem Iouem non esse ipsis clarum est indignationibus numinum.
But suppose, as you wish, that they are one and do not differ in any power of divinity or majesty. Why then do you persecute us with unjust hatred? Why do you shudder at the mention of our name as at a very bad omen, if the God you worship is the one we worship too? Or why do you maintain that in the same case the gods are friendly to you and hostile and most bitter toward us? For if one religion is common to us and to you, the anger of the heavenly beings ceases; but if they are hostile to us alone, it is clear that both you and they do not know God, who, as the very indignation of the deities makes plain, is not Jupiter.
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Summary: If Jupiter were the supreme God whom Christians also worship, the gods' supposed anger at Christians would make no sense.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.35 (CSEL 4:22–23; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.36CSEL 4:23–24
sed non, inquit, idcirco dii uobis infesti sunt, quod omnipotentem colatis deum, sed quod hominem natum et, quod personis infame est uilibus, crucis supplicio interemptum et deum fuisse contenditis et superesse adhuc creditis et cotidianis supplicationibus adoratis. si nobis iucundum est, amici, edissertate, quinam sint hi dii, qui a nobis Christum coli suam credant ad iniuriam pertinere. Ianus Ianiculi conditor et ciuitatis Saturniae Saturnus auctor? Fenta Fatua, Fauni uxor, Bona Dea quae dicitur sed in uini melior et laudabilior potu? Indigetes illi qui in flumen repunt et in alueis Numici cum ranis et pisciculis degunt? Aesculapius et Liber pater, Coronide ille natus et ex genitalibus matris alter fulmine praecipitatus? Mercurius utero fusus Maiae et, quod est diuinius, candidae? arquitenentes Diana et Apollo, circumlati per fugas matris atque in insulis errantibus uix tuti? Dioneia Venus proles, uiri materfamilias Troici atque intestini decoris publicatrix? in Trinacriae finibus Ceres nata atque in floribus legendis occupata Proserpina? Thebanus aut Tyrius Hercules, hic in finibus sepultus Hispaniae, flammis alter concrematus Oetaeis? Tyndaridae Castores, equos unus domitare consuetus, alter pugillator bonus et crudo inexuperabilis caestu? Tisianes et Bucures Mauri et ouorum progenies dii Syri? Apis Peloponensi proditus et in Aegypto Serapis nuncupatus? Aethiopicis solibus Isis furua maerens perditum filium et membratim coniugem lancinatum? praeterimus et transgredimur Opis suboles regias, quas in libris auctores uestri quae fuerint et quales uobis ediscentibus prodiderunt: hine ergo Christum coli et a nobis accipi et existimari pro numine uulneratis accipiunt auribus, et obliti paulo ante sortis fuerint et condicionis cuius, id quod sibi concessum est inpertiri alteri nolunt? haec est iustitia caelitum, hoc deorum iudicium sanctum? nonne istud liuoris est atque auaritiae genus, non obtrectatio quaedam sordens, suas eminere tantummodo uelle fortunas, aliorum res premi et in contempta humilitate calcari?
'But the gods are not hostile to you,' he says, 'because you worship the almighty God, but because you maintain that a man who was born and, what is disgraceful even for vile persons, was put to death by the punishment of the cross, was God; and you believe that he still lives, and you worship him with daily prayers.' If you please, friends, explain to us who these gods are who think that our worship of Christ is an injury to them. Janus, founder of the Janiculum, and Saturn, author of the Saturnian city? Fenta Fatua, the wife of Faunus, who is called the Good Goddess, but is better and more praiseworthy in drinking wine? Those Indigetes who creep into the river and live in the channels of the Numicius with frogs and little fish? Aesculapius and Father Liber, the one born of Coronis, the other hurled by the thunderbolt from his mother's womb? Mercury, poured out of the womb of Maia, and, what is more divine, a fair one? The bow-bearing Diana and Apollo, carried about in their mother's flight and hardly safe on wandering islands? Venus, daughter of Dione, the mistress of a Trojan man's household and the publisher of her own private charms? Ceres, born in the borders of Trinacria, and Proserpina, busy gathering flowers? The Theban or the Tyrian Hercules, the one buried in the borders of Spain, the other burned up in the flames of Oeta? The Castors, sons of Tyndareus, one accustomed to tame horses, the other a good boxer, unbeatable with the raw-hide glove? The Moorish Tisianes and Bucures, and the Syrian gods, the offspring of eggs? Apis, brought forth in the Peloponnese and called Serapis in Egypt? Isis, darkened by Ethiopian suns, mourning her lost son and her husband torn limb from limb? We pass over and skip the royal offspring of Ops, whom your authors have described in their books, who and what they were, for you to learn. These, then, hear with wounded ears that Christ is worshiped and accepted by us and regarded as a deity, and, forgetting the lot and condition that was theirs a little before, refuse to share with another what has been granted to themselves? Is this the justice of the heavenly beings, this the holy judgment of the gods? Is this not a kind of envy and greed, a sordid detraction, to wish their own fortunes alone to stand out, and the affairs of others to be pressed down and trampled in contemptible lowliness?
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
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Summary: The objection is that Christians worship a crucified man as God; Arnobius answers that the pagan gods were themselves once mortals with human births and stories.
- Arnobius lists gods whose myths give them human origins: Janus, Saturn, Fatua (Bona Dea), Aeneas as Indiges (drowned in the Numicius), Aesculapius, Liber (Dionysus), Mercury, Diana and Apollo (born on floating Delos), Venus and Anchises, Ceres and Proserpina, Hercules, Castor and Pollux, Moorish gods (Tisianes and Bucures, otherwise unknown), Syrian gods born from eggs, Apis/Serapis, and Isis. 'hine' at the start of the last question is taken as 'hi' ('these'); the reading is uncertain.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.36 (CSEL 4:23–24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-36). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.37CSEL 4:24
natum hominem colimus. quid enim, uos hominem nullum colitis natum? non unum et alium? non innumeros alios? quinimmo non omnes, quos iam templis habetis uestris, mortalium sustulistis ex numero et caelo sideribusque donastis? si enim forte uos fugit, sortis eos humanae et condicionis fuisse communis, replicate antiquissimas litteras et eorum scripta percurrite qui uetustati uicini sine ullis adsentationibus cuncta ueritate in liquida prodiderunt. iam profecto discetis, quibus singuli patribus, quibus matribus fuerint procreati, qua innati regione, qua gente, quae fecerint; egerint pertulerint actitarint, quas in rebus obeundis aduersorum senserint secundantiumque fortunas. sin autem scientes uteris, esse gestatos et frugibus eos uictitasse terrenis nihilominus tamen nobis nati hominis obiectatis cultum, res agitis satis iniustas, ut id in nobis constituatis esse damnabile quod et ipsi uos factitatis, aut quae uobis licere permittitis consimiliter aliis licitum esse nolitis.
We worship one who was born a man. What of it? Do you worship no one who was born a man? Not one and another? Not countless others? Indeed, have you not taken all those whom you now have in your temples from the number of mortals and presented them to heaven and the stars? For if perhaps it escapes you that they were of human lot and common condition, unroll the most ancient writings and run through the works of those who, living near antiquity, set everything down in clear truth without any flattery. You will surely learn from what fathers and mothers each one was begotten, in what region they were born, of what nation, what they did, carried out, endured, and practiced, what fortunes of adversity and prosperity they experienced in their undertakings. But if, knowing that they were carried in wombs and lived on the fruits of the earth, you nevertheless reproach us with the worship of one born a man, you act quite unjustly, in establishing as damnable in us what you yourselves regularly do, or in refusing to allow others likewise what you permit yourselves.
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Summary: Pagans worship deified mortals, so they cannot fault Christians for worshiping one who was born a man.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread ending in the digital text; misread letter in the digital text): templi habetis → templis habetis; autejn → autem; terrepis → terrenis.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.37 (CSEL 4:24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.38CSEL 4:24–26
sed concedamus interdum manum uestris opinationibus dantes, unum Christum fuisse de nobis, mentis animae corporis fragilitatis et condicionis unius: nonne dignus a nobis est tantorum ob munerum gratiam deus dici deusque sentiri? si enim uos Liberum, quod usum reppererit uini, si quod panis, Cererem, si Aesculapium, quod herbarum, si Mineruam, quod oleae, si Triptolemum, quod aratri, si denique Herculem, quod feras, quod fures, quod multiplicium capitum superauit conpescuitque natrices, diuorum retulistis in censum: honoribus quantis adficiendus est nobis, qui ab erroribus nos magnis insinuata ueritate traduxit, qui uelut caecos passim ac sine ullo rectore gradientes ab deruptis, ab deuiis locis planioribus reddidit, qui, quod frugiferum primo atque humano generi salutare, deus monstrauit quid sit, quis, quantus et qualis, qui profundas eius atque inenarrabiles altitudines, quantum nostra quiuit mediocritas, capere et intellegere permisit et docuit, qui quo auctore, quo patre mundus iste sit constitutus et conditus, fecit benignissime sciri, qui natiuitatis eius exprompsit genus et nullius aliquando cognitione praesumptam materiam illius, unde ignibus solis genitalis feruor adscitus, cur luna semper in motu, isdemne quis creditur an aliis causis lucem semper atque obscuritatem resumens, animalium origo quae sit, rationes quas habeant semina, quis ipsum finxerit hominem, quis informarit uel ex materiae quo genere constructionem ipsam confirmauerit corporum, quid sit sensus, quid anima, aduolaritne ad nos sponte an cum ipsis sata sit et procreata uisceribus, mortis particeps degat an inmortalitatis perpetuitate donata sit, qui status nos maneat, cum dissolutis abierimus a membris, uisurine nos simus an memoriam nullam nostri sensus et recordationis habituri. qui adrogantiam constrinxit nostram et elatas supercilio ceruices modum fecit suae infirmitatis agnoscere, qui animantia monstrauit informia nos esse, uanis opinionibus fidere, nihil comprehensum habere, nihil scire et quae nostros sita sunt ante oculos non uidere, qui quod omnia superauit et transgressum est munera, ab religionibus nos falsis religionem transduxit ad ueram, qui ab signis inertibus atque ex uilissimo formatis luto ad sidera subleuauit et caelum et cum domino rerum deo supplicationum fecit uerba atque orationum conloquia miscere.
But let us grant for a while, yielding to your opinions, that Christ was one of us, of one mind, soul, body, weakness, and condition. Is he not worthy to be called God by us and regarded as God because of such great gifts? For if you have enrolled among the gods Liber because he discovered the use of wine, Ceres because she discovered bread, Aesculapius because he discovered herbs, Minerva because she discovered the olive, Triptolemus because he discovered the plow, and finally Hercules because he overcame and subdued wild beasts, robbers, and many-headed water snakes: with what honors must he be honored by us, who led us from great errors by instilling the truth; who, when we were walking about as though blind and without any guide, brought us back from precipices and pathless places to more level ground; who showed, what is most fruitful and saving for the human race, what God is, who, how great, and of what kind; who allowed and taught us to grasp and understand, as far as our littleness could, his deep and unspeakable heights; who most kindly made known by what author, by what Father this world was established and founded; who revealed the manner of its origin and its matter, never before grasped by anyone's knowledge; from where the life-giving heat of the sun is drawn from its fires; why the moon, always in motion, takes up its light and darkness again, whether for the same reasons as is believed or for others; what the origin of living creatures is; what principles seeds have; who fashioned man himself, who formed him, or from what kind of matter he established the very structure of bodies; what sense is, what the soul is; whether it flew to us of its own accord or was sown and begotten with our very flesh; whether it lives sharing in death or has been given the everlastingness of immortality; what state awaits us when we depart, dissolved, from our limbs; whether we shall see, or shall have no memory of our sensation and recollection; who restrained our arrogance and made our necks, raised in pride, recognize the measure of their weakness; who showed that we are unformed creatures, trusting in vain opinions, grasping nothing, knowing nothing, and not seeing what lies before our eyes; who, what surpassed and exceeded all gifts, led us across from false religions to the true religion; who raised us from lifeless images formed from the vilest clay to the stars and to heaven, and made us join words of supplication and converse in prayer with God the Lord of all things.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Notes and citation
Summary: Even if Christ were only a man, his gifts of truth about God, the world, and the soul would make him more worthy of divine honor than any deified benefactor.
- Arnobius argues here on the opponents' assumption ('let us grant for a while'); in 1.42 he states that Christ is God. The digital text has a stray line number '30' after 'nobis' and a stray period after 'est', both removed. 'isdemne quis creditur' is obscure in the manuscript; translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text; stray number in the digital text; stray period in the digital text): intejdum → interdum; nobis, 30 mentis → nobis, mentis; dignus a nobis est. tantorum → dignus a nobis est tantorum.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.38 (CSEL 4:24–26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-38). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.39CSEL 4:26
uenerabar, o caecitas, nuper simulacra modo ex fornacibus prompta, in incudibus deos et ex malleis fabricatos, elephantorum ossa, picturas, ueternosis in arboribus taenias; si quando conspexeram lubricatum lapidem et ex oliui unguine sordidatum, tamquam inesset uis praesens, adulabar, adfabar et beneficia poscebam nihil sentiente de trunco, et eos ipsos diuos quos esse mihi persuaseram adficiebam contumeliis grauibus, cum eos esse credebam ligna lapides atque ossa aut in huius rerum habitare materia. nunc doctore tanto in uias ueritatis inductus omnia ista quae sint scio, digna de dignis sentio, contumeliam nomini nullam facio diuino, et quid cuique debeatur uel personae uel capiti, inconfusis gradibus atque auctoritatibus tribuo. ita ergo Christus non habeatur a nobis deus neque omni illo qui uel maximus potest excogitari diuinitatis adficiatur cultu, a quo iamdudum tanta et accepimus dona uiuentes et expectamus, dies cum uenerit, ampliora?
Only lately, O blindness, I used to worship images just taken from the furnaces, gods made on anvils and by hammers, elephants' bones, paintings, ribbons on ancient trees. Whenever I saw a smooth stone smeared with olive oil, I would flatter it, as though a present power were in it; I would speak to it and ask benefits of a senseless block. And I heaped grave insults on the very gods whom I had persuaded myself existed, when I believed them to be wood, stones, and bones, or to dwell in such material. Now, led into the ways of truth by so great a teacher, I know what all these things are, I think worthy things of the worthy, I offer no insult to the divine name, and I give to each person or head what is due, in unconfused ranks and dignities. Is Christ, then, not to be held God by us, and is he not to be honored with all the worship of divinity that can be conceived, even the greatest, from whom we have long received such great gifts while living, and expect greater when the day comes?
Notes and citation
Summary: Arnobius recalls his former worship of idols and anointed stones and confesses Christ, his teacher, as God.
- An autobiographical passage: Arnobius was a recent convert. A stray '»' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray mark in the digital text): huius » rerum → huius rerum.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.39 (CSEL 4:26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-39). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.40CSEL 4:26–27
sed patibulo adfixus interiit. quid istud ad causam? neque enim qualitas et deformitas mortis dicta eius immutat aut facta, aut eo minor uidebitur disciplinarum eius auctoritas, quia uinculis corporis non naturali dissolutione digressus est sed ui inlata decessit. Pythagoras Samius suspicione dominationis iniusta uiuus concrematus in fano est: numquid ea quae docuit uim propriam perdiderunt, quia non spiritum sponte sed crudelitate adpetitus effudit? similiter Socrates ciuitatis suae iudicio damnatus capitali adfectus est poena: numquid inrita facta sunt quae sunt ab eo de moribus uirtutibus et officiis disputata, quia iniuria expulsus e uita est? innumerabiles alii gloria et uirtute et existimatione pollentes acerbissimarum mortium experti sunt formas, ut Aquilius Trebonius Regulus: numquid idcirco post uitam iudicati sunt turpes, quia non publica lege fatorum sed mortis asperrimo genere lacerati excruciatique perierunt? nemo umquam innocens male interemptus infamis est, nec turpitudinis alicuius conmaculatur nota, qui non suo merito poenas graues sed cruciatoris perpetitur saeuitate.
'But he died fastened to a gibbet.' What has that to do with the case? For neither does the kind and ugliness of his death change his words or deeds, nor will the authority of his teachings seem less because he departed from the bonds of the body not by natural dissolution but by violence done to him. Pythagoras of Samos was burned alive in a temple on an unjust suspicion of seeking tyranny: did what he taught lose its force because he did not breathe out his life of his own accord but was attacked with cruelty? Likewise Socrates, condemned by the judgment of his city, suffered capital punishment: were his discussions of morals, virtues, and duties made void because he was driven from life unjustly? Countless others, eminent in glory, virtue, and reputation, have suffered the most bitter forms of death, like Aquilius, Trebonius, and Regulus: were they therefore judged disgraceful after their lives, because they perished not by the common law of fate but torn and tortured by the harshest kind of death? No innocent person cruelly killed is ever infamous, nor is he stained with the mark of any disgrace who suffers heavy punishments not for his own deserts but by the savagery of a torturer.
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Summary: Christ's death on the cross no more discredits his teaching than violent deaths discredited Pythagoras, Socrates, or Regulus.
- Aquilius (Manius Aquilius, killed by Mithridates), Trebonius (a conspirator against Caesar, killed by Dolabella), and Regulus (tortured by the Carthaginians). A stray '1' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray number in the digital text): aut 1 eo → aut eo.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.40 (CSEL 4:26–27; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-40). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.41CSEL 4:27–28
et tamen, o isti, qui hominem nos colere morte functum ignominiosa ridetis, nonne Liberum et uos patrem membratim ab Titanis dissipatum fanorum consecratione mactatis? nonne Aesculapium medicaminum repertorem post poenas et supplicia fulminis custodem nuncupauistis et praesidem sanitatis ualetudinis et salutis? nonne ipsum Herculem magnum sacrificiis hostiis et ture inuitatis incenso, quem ipsi uos fertis uiuum arsisse post poenas et concrematum in funestis busticetis? nonne illum Attin Phrygem abscisum et spoliatum uiro magnae matris in adytis deum propitium, deum sanctum Gallorum conclamatione testamini? nonne ipsum Romulum patrem senatorum manibus dilaceratum centum et Quirinum esse Martium dicitis et sacerdotibus et puluinaribus honoratis et in aedibus adoratis amplissimis et post haec omnia caelum ascendisse iuratis? aut igitur ridendi et uos estis, qui homines grauissimis cruciatibus interemptos deos putatis et colitis, aut si certa est ratio, cur id nobis faciendum putetis, et nobis permittite scire, quibus istud causis rationibusque faciamus.
And yet, you who laugh because we worship a man who died an ignominious death, do you not also honor Father Liber, torn limb from limb by the Titans, by consecrating shrines to him? Did you not, after the punishment and torment of the thunderbolt, name Aesculapius, the discoverer of medicines, guardian and protector of health, well-being, and safety? Do you not invite the great Hercules himself with sacrifices, victims, and burnt incense, though you yourselves say that he was burned alive after his sufferings and consumed on a funeral pyre? Do you not, with the loud cry of the Galli, invoke that Phrygian Attis, mutilated and stripped of his manhood, as a gracious god, a holy god, in the inner shrines of the Great Mother? Do you not say that Romulus himself, the father of the senators, torn in pieces by a hundred hands, is Quirinus, son of Mars, and honor him with priests and sacred couches, worship him in the most splendid temples, and after all this swear that he ascended into heaven? So either you too are to be laughed at, who think gods and worship men killed by the most grievous tortures, or, if there is a sure reason why you think you should do this, allow us also to know for what causes and reasons we do it.
Notes and citation
Summary: Pagans themselves worship gods who died violent deaths, such as Liber, Aesculapius, Hercules, Attis, and Romulus.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.41 (CSEL 4:27–28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-41). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.42CSEL 4:28
natum hominem colitis. etiamsi esset id uerum, locis ut in superioribus dictum est, tamen pro multis et tam liberalibus donis quae ab eo profecta in nobis sunt deus dici appellarique deberet. cum uero deus sit re certa et sine ullius seriae dubitationis ambiguo, infitiaturos arbitramini nos esse, quam maxime illum ab nobis coli et praesidem nostri corporis nuncupari? ergone, inquiet aliquis furens iratus et percitus, deus ille est Christus? deus, respondebimus, et interiorum potentiarum deus et quod magis infidos acerbissimis doloribus torqueat, rei maximae causa a summo rege ad nos missus. postulabit forsitan insanior et furiosior factus, an se ita res habeat, quemadmodum dicimus, comprobari. nulla maior est comprobatio, quam gestarum ab eo fides rerum, quam uirtutum nouitas, quam omnia uicta decreta dissolutaque fatalia, quae populi gentesque suo geri sub lumine nullo dissentiente uiderunt, quae nec ipsi audent falsitatis arguere, quorum antiquas et patrias leges uanitatis esse plenissimas atque inanissimae superstitionis ostendit.
'You worship one who was born a man.' Even if that were true, as was said in earlier places, he ought still to be called and named God for the many and so generous gifts that have come to us from him. But since he is God in sure fact and without the ambiguity of any serious doubt, do you think we will deny that he is worshiped by us as fully as possible and called the protector of our body? 'Is that Christ God, then?' someone will say, raging, angry, and excited. God, we will answer, and God of the inner powers, and, what may torture the unbelieving with still bitterer pain, sent to us by the supreme King for a matter of the greatest importance. Perhaps, grown madder and more furious, he will demand proof that the matter is as we say. There is no greater proof than the credibility of the things he did, than the newness of his mighty works, than all the decrees of fate conquered and dissolved, which peoples and nations saw done in their own daylight with no one disagreeing, and which even those whose ancient and ancestral laws he showed to be full of vanity and the emptiest superstition do not dare to accuse of falsehood.
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Summary: Arnobius affirms that Christ is truly God, sent by the supreme King, as his works prove.
- 'God of the inner powers' (interiorum potentiarum deus): the phrase is obscure; it may mean God with respect to the hidden or higher powers. Arnobius's Christology is unsystematic: he calls Christ God while also speaking of him as sent by the supreme God. A stray semicolon at the start of the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray punctuation at the start of the digital text): ; natum hominem → natum hominem.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.42 (CSEL 4:28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-42). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.43CSEL 4:28–29
occursurus forsitan rursus est cum aliis multis calumniosis illis et puerilibus uocibus: magus fuit, clandestinis artibus omnia illa perfecit, Aegyptiorum ex adytis angelorum potentium nomina et remotas furatus est disciplinas. quid dicitis, o paruuli, incomperta uobis et nescia temerariae uocis loquacitate garrientes? ergone illa quae gesta sunt daemonum fuere praestigiae et magicarum artium ludi? potestis aliquem nobis designare, monstrare ex omnibus illis magis, qui umquam fuere per saecula, consimile aliquid Christo millesima ex parte qui fecerit? qui sine ulla ui carminum, sine herbarum et graminum sucis, sine ulla aliqua obseruatione sollicita sacrorum libaminum temporum? non enim urgemus et quaerimus quae sese spondeant facere uel in quibus generibus actuum soleat omnis illorum doctrina et experientia contineri. quis enim hos nesciat aut inminentia studere praenoscere, quae necessario uelint nolint suis ordinationibus ueniunt, aut mortiferam inmittere quibus libuerit tabem aut familiarum dirumpere caritates aut sine clauibus reserare quae clausa sunt aut ora silentio uincire aut in curriculis equos debilitare incitare tardare aut uxoribus et liberis alienis, siue illi mares sunt siue feminei generis, inconcessi amoris flammas et furiales immittere cupiditates aut si utile aliquid uideantur audere, non propria ui posse sed eorum quos inuocant potestate?
Perhaps he will come back at us again with many other of those slanderous and childish cries: 'He was a magician; he did all those things by secret arts; he stole from the inner shrines of the Egyptians the names of powerful angels and hidden lore.' What do you say, little children, chattering with the loquacity of a rash tongue about things you have not found out and do not know? Were those things that were done, then, tricks of demons and games of magic arts? Can you point out and show us anyone among all those magicians who have ever existed through the ages who did anything like Christ, in the thousandth part? Who did it without any power of incantations, without the juices of herbs and grasses, without any anxious observance of sacred libations and times? For we do not press you or ask what they promise to do, or in what kinds of acts all their teaching and experience usually consists. For who does not know that they either strive to foreknow what is coming, which necessarily comes by its own ordering whether they will or no; or to send a deadly wasting disease on whom they please; or to break the affections of families; or to open without keys what is shut; or to bind mouths in silence; or to weaken, urge on, or slow down horses in the races; or to send on the wives and children of others, whether male or female, the flames of forbidden love and frenzied desires; or, if they seem to attempt anything useful, that they can do it not by their own power but by the power of those whom they invoke?
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Summary: Arnobius rejects the charge that Christ was a magician, since no magician ever did what he did without spells or rites.
- The charge that Jesus learned magic in Egypt also appears in Celsus (Origen, Cels. 1.28). A stray 'f.' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray letter in the digital text): alienis, f. siue → alienis, siue.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.43 (CSEL 4:28–29; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-43). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.44CSEL 4:29
atquin constitit Christum sine ullis adminiculis rerum, sine ullius ritus obseruatione uel lege omnia illa quae fecit nominis sui possibilitate fecisse et quod proprium consentaneum dignum deo fuerat uero, nihil nocens aut noxium sed opiferum, sed salutare, sed auxiliaris plenum nobis potestatis munifica liberalitate donasse. quid dicitis o iterum?
Yet it is established that Christ, without any aids from things, without the observance of any rite or rule, did all that he did by the power of his name; and, as was proper, fitting, and worthy of the true God, he gave us with bountiful generosity nothing hurtful or harmful, but what was helpful, saving, and full of power to aid us. What do you say again?
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Summary: Christ worked his miracles by the power of his name alone, and all of them were beneficial.
- 'admimcutis' in the digital text is a misreading of 'adminiculis' ('aids').
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letters in the digital text): admimcutis → adminiculis.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.44 (CSEL 4:29; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-44). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.45CSEL 4:29–30
ergo ille mortalis aut unus fuit e nobis, cuius imperium, cuius uocem popularibus et cotidianis uerbis missam ualetudines morbi febres atque alia corporum cruciamenta fugiebant? unus fuit e nobis, cuius praesentiam, cuius uisum gens illa nequibat ferre mersorum in uisceribus daemonum conterritaque ui noua membrorum possessione cedebat? unus fuit e nobis, cuius foedae uitiligines iussioni obtemperabant pulsae statim et concordiam colorum commaculatis cutibus relinquebant? unus fuit e nobis, cuius ex leui tactu stabant profluuia sanguinis et inmoderatos cohibebant fluores? unus fuit e nobis, cuius manus intercutes et ueternosae fugiebant undae, penetrabilis ille uitabat liquor et turgentia uiscera salutari ariditate deflabant? unus fuit e nobis, qui claudos currere praecipiebat, et iam † operis res erat, porrigere mancos manus, et articuli mobilitates iam ingenitas explicabant; captos membris adsurgere, et iam suos referebant lectos alienis paulo ante ceruicibus lati; uiduatos uidere luminibus, et iam caelum diemque cernebant nullis cum oculis procreati?
Was he, then, a mortal, or one of us, at whose command, at whose voice uttered in ordinary everyday words, illnesses, diseases, fevers, and other torments of the body fled? Was he one of us, whose presence, whose sight that race of demons sunk in people's inward parts could not bear, and, terrified by a new power, gave up possession of their limbs? Was he one of us, whose command foul leprosies obeyed, driven out at once, leaving evenness of color on the stained skin? Was he one of us, at whose light touch flows of blood stopped and checked their excessive issue? Was he one of us, whose hands the waters of dropsy fled, that penetrating fluid shrank away, and the swollen inward parts subsided in a healthy dryness? Was he one of us, who commanded the lame to run, and it was already done; the maimed to stretch out their hands, and their joints unfolded motions they had had from birth; the paralyzed to rise, and they were already carrying back their own beds, who a little before had been carried on others' shoulders; the blind to see, and they were already beholding the sky and the day, though born without eyes?
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Mark 5:25–34 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 14:2–4 (allusion, medium confidence) · Mark 2:11–12 (allusion, high confidence) · John 9:1–7 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 1:40–42 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ's healings of the sick, the possessed, lepers, the blind, and the lame show he was more than a mortal.
- The healings recall the Gospel accounts: the woman with a flow of blood (Mark 5:25–34), the man with dropsy (Luke 14:2–4), the paralytic carrying his bed (Mark 2:1–12), the man born blind (John 9). The text before 'it was already done' is corrupt ('† operis res erat'); translated by sense. 'ui nona' and 'BUOS' in the digital text are misreadings of 'ui noua' ('a new power') and 'suos' ('their own').
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text; misread letters in the digital text): ui nona → ui noua; BUOS → suos.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.45 (CSEL 4:29–30; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-45). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.46CSEL 4:30–31
unus, inquam, fuit e nobis, qui debilitatibus uariis morbisque uexatos centum aut hoc amplius semel una intercessione sanabat? cuius uocem ad simplicem furibunda et insana explicabant se maria, procellarum turbines tempestatesque sidebant? qui per altissimos gurgites pedem ferebat, inlutum, calcabat ponti terga undis ipsis stupentibus in famulatum subeunte natura? qui sequentium se milia quinque quinque saturauit e panibus, ac ne esse praestigiae incredulis illis uiderentur et duris, bis senarum sportarum sinus reliquiarum fragminibus aggerabat? unus fuit e nobis, qui redire in corpora iamdudum animas praecipiebat efflatas, prodire ab aggeribus conditos et post diem funeris tertium pollinctorum uelaminibus expediri? unus fuit e nobis, qui quid singuli uoluerent, quid sub obscuris cogitationibus continerent tacitorum in cordibus peruidebat? unus fuit e nobis, qui cum unam emitteret uocem, ab diuersis populis et dissona oratione loquentibus familiaribus uerborum sonis et suo cuique utens existimabatur eloquio? unus fuit e nobis, qui cum officia religionis certae suis sectatoribus traderet, mundum totum repente conplebat quantusque et qui esset reuelata nominis inmensitate monstrabat? unus fuit e nobis, qui deposito corpore innumeris se hominum prompta in luce detexit, qui sermonem dedit atque accepit, docuit castigauit admonuit, qui ne illi se falsos uanis imaginationibus existimarent, se semel iterum saepius familiari conlocutione monstrauit, qui iustissimis uiris etiamnunc inpollutis ac diligentibus sese non per uana insomnia sed per purae speciem simplicitatis apparet, cuius nomen auditum fugat noxios spiritus, inponit silentium uatibus, haruspices inconsultos reddit, adrogantium magorum frustrari efficit actiones, non horrore ut dicitis nominis sed maioris licentia potestatis?
Was he one of us, I say, who healed at a single intervention a hundred or more afflicted with various infirmities and diseases? At whose mere voice the raging and maddened seas grew calm, and the whirlwinds of storms and tempests subsided? Who walked through the deepest waters with his foot unwet and trod the back of the sea, while the waves themselves were amazed and nature came under his service? Who fed five thousand of his followers from five loaves, and, so that it might not seem a trick to those unbelieving and hard people, heaped up the hollows of twelve baskets with the leftover fragments? Was he one of us, who commanded souls long since breathed out to return to their bodies, those buried to come out of their tombs, and, after the third day of the funeral, to be freed from the grave-clothes of the undertakers? Was he one of us, who saw clearly in the hearts of the silent what each was pondering, what they held in their hidden thoughts? Was he one of us, who, when he uttered a single word, was thought by different peoples speaking different languages to be using familiar sounds of words and each one's own speech? Was he one of us, who, when he taught his followers the duties of a sure religion, suddenly filled the whole world, and showed how great and who he was by the revealed immensity of his name? Was he one of us, who, after laying aside his body, showed himself in open light to countless people, who gave and received speech, taught, rebuked, and admonished; who, so that they might not think themselves deceived by empty imaginings, showed himself once, twice, and often in familiar conversation; who even now appears to righteous men, undefiled and loving him, not in empty dreams but in the form of pure simplicity; whose name, when heard, puts harmful spirits to flight, imposes silence on prophets, makes soothsayers unable to be consulted, and causes the actions of arrogant magicians to fail, not by the dread of the name, as you say, but by the free exercise of a greater power?
Matt 8:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 14:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 14:17–21 (allusion, high confidence) · John 11:43–44 (allusion, high confidence) · John 2:25 (allusion, medium confidence) · Acts 2:6–11 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 20:19–29 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Cor 15:5–7 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ calmed the sea, walked on water, fed five thousand, raised the dead, knew hearts, appeared after his death, and his name still puts demons to flight.
- The single word heard by different peoples in their own languages recalls Pentecost (Acts 2:6–11), here attributed to Christ himself. The one raised 'after the third day' recalls Lazarus (John 11:39–44, four days). 'enobis' in the digital text is corrected to 'e nobis'.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (words run together in the digital text): unus fuit enobis → unus fuit e nobis.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.46 (CSEL 4:30–31; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-46). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.47CSEL 4:31
et haec quidem summatim exposita non ea ratione protulimus, tamquam magnitudo facientis solis in his esset perspicienda uirtutibus. quanta sint enim haec uel exilitatis cuius reperientur et ludi, si traditum fuerit nosci, ex quibus ad nos regnis, cuius numinis ministrator aduenerit. quae quidem ab eo gesta sunt et factitata, non ut se uana ostentatione iactaret sed ut homines duri atque increduli scirent non esse quod spondebatur falsum et ex operum benignitate quid esset deus uerus iam addiscerent suspicari. simul et illud uolumus sciri, cum summatim ut dictum est enumeratio facta gestorum est, non ea Christum * potuisse quae fecit, sed constituta etiam exsuperasse fatorum. nam si, ut liquet et constat, debilitates et corporum passiones [surdi manci et muti], neruorum contractio et amissio luminis fatalibus accidunt inroganturque decretis, si, solus haec Christus correxit restituit atque sanauit: sole ipso est clarius, potentiorem illum fuisse quam fata sunt, cum ea soluit et uicit quae perpetuis nexibus et immobili fuerant necessitate deuincta.
We have set out these things in summary, not on the principle that the greatness of the doer is to be seen in these mighty works alone. For how great these are, or how slight and trifling they will be found, if it should be granted to know from what realms he came to us, as the minister of what deity. The things he did and performed were not done so that he might boast of himself with empty display, but so that hard and unbelieving men might know that what was promised was not false, and might now learn from the kindness of his works to guess what the true God is. At the same time we want this also to be known, since the account of his deeds has been given in summary as was said: that Christ was not only able to do what he did, but even overcame the ordinances of fate. For if, as is plain and agreed, infirmities and sufferings of the body, contraction of the sinews, and loss of sight happen and are imposed by the decrees of fate, and Christ alone corrected, restored, and healed these things, it is clearer than the sun itself that he was more powerful than the fates, since he loosed and conquered what had been bound fast by everlasting bonds and immovable necessity.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ's miracles were meant to lead people to the true God, and they show him stronger than fate itself.
- The edition deletes 'the deaf, the maimed, and the dumb' as a gloss. An asterisk in the digital text marks a gap before 'potuisse'; 'not only' is supplied by sense. A stray period after 'solis' is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): solis. in his → solis in his.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.47 (CSEL 4:31; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-47). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.48CSEL 4:31–33
sed frustra, inquit nescio quis, tantum adrogas Christo, cum saepe alios sciamus et † scierimus deos et laborantibus plurimis dedisse medicinas et multorum hominum morbos ualetudinesque curasse. non inquiro, non exigo, quis deus aut quo tempore cui fuerit auxiliatus aut quem fractum restituerit sanitati: illud solum audire desidero, an sine ullius adiunctione materiae id est medicaminis alicuius ad tactum morbos iusserit ab hominibus euolare, imperio aut fecerit et emori ualetudinum causam et debilium corpora ad suas remeare naturas. Christus enim scitur aut admota partibus debilitatis manu aut uocis simplicis iussione aures aperuisse surdorum, exturbasse ab oculis caecitates, orationem dedisse mutis, articulorum uincula relaxasse, ambulatum dedisse contractis, uitiligines querqueras atque intercutes morbos omniaque alia ualetudinum genera, quae humana corpora sustinere nescio qua uoluit inportuna crudelitas, uerbo solitus imperioque sanare. quid simile dii omnes, a quibus opem dicitis aegris et periclitantibus latam? qui si quando ut fama est nonnullis adtribuere medicinam, aut cibum aliquem iusserunt capi aut qualitatis alicuius ebibi potionem aut herbarum et graminum sucos superponere inquietantibus causis, ambulare, cessare aut re aliqua quae officiat abstinere. quod esse non magnum nec admirationis alicuius stupore condignum promptum est, si uolueritis attendere: et medici enim sic curant, animal humi natum nec confisum scientiae ueritate sed in arte suspicabili positum et coniecturarum aestimationibus nutans. nulla autem uirtus est medicaminibus amouere quae noceant: beneficia ista rerum, non sunt curantium potestates, et ut sit laudabile scire, qua quibus conueniat medicina aut arte curari, locus huius laudis non in deo sed in homine constitutus est. hunc enim non est turpe rebus extrinsecus sumptis ualetudinem hominis fecisse meliorem: indecorum deo est, non ipsum per se posse, sed externarum adminiculis rerum sanitatem incolumitatemque praestare.
'But in vain,' someone says, 'do you claim so much for Christ, since we know, and have known, that other gods have often given remedies to many sufferers and cured the diseases and illnesses of many people.' I do not inquire, I do not demand, which god, or when, or whom he helped, or what broken person he restored to health. I only want to hear this: whether, without the addition of any material, that is, of any medicine, he ordered diseases to fly away from people at a touch, or by command caused the cause of illnesses to die and the bodies of the weak to return to their proper nature. For Christ is known, either by putting his hand to the afflicted parts or by the command of a simple word, to have opened the ears of the deaf, driven blindness from the eyes, given speech to the dumb, loosened the bonds of the joints, given walking to the crippled, and to have been accustomed to heal by word and command shivering fevers, leprosies, dropsies, and all other kinds of illness which some unkind cruelty has willed human bodies to endure. What have all the gods done like this, from whom you say help has been brought to the sick and those in danger? If ever, as rumor has it, they have given healing to some, they either ordered some food to be taken, or a drink of some quality to be drunk, or the juices of herbs and grasses to be laid on the troublesome parts, or ordered walking, rest, or abstaining from something harmful. That this is nothing great nor worthy of any astonishment is plain if you will attend: for physicians cure in the same way, a creature born of the earth, not relying on true knowledge but placed in a conjectural art and wavering in the estimates of guesswork. But there is no special power in removing what is harmful by medicines: those are benefits of things, not powers of those who cure; and though it is praiseworthy to know which medicine suits which people or by what art they are to be cured, the place for this praise is found in a man, not in a god. For it is not shameful for a man to have improved someone's health by things taken from outside; it is unbecoming to a god not to be able to give health and safety by himself, but only with the help of external things.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Mark 7:32–35 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Pagan gods healed, if at all, by prescribing remedies like physicians, while Christ healed by word and touch alone.
- The text before 'known' is corrupt ('† scierimus'), and the digital text has a stray '-4' before 'crudelitas', removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray characters in the digital text): inportuna -4 crudelitas → inportuna crudelitas.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.48 (CSEL 4:31–33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-48). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.49CSEL 4:33
et quoniam beneficia salutis datae aliorum numinum comparatis et Christi, quot milia uultis a nobis debilium uobis ostendi, quot tabificis adfectos morbis nullam omnino rettulisse medicinam, cum per omnia supplices irent templa, cum deorum ante ora prostrati limina ipsa conuerrerent osculis, cum Aesculapium ipsum datorem ut praedicant sanitatis, quoad illis superfuit uita, et precibus fatigarent et inuitarent miserrimis uotis? nonne alios scimus malis suis commortuos, cruciatibus alios consenuisse morborum, perniciosius alios sese habere coepisse, postquam dies noctesque in continuis precibus et pietatis expectatione triuerunt? quid ergo prodest ostendere unum aut alterum fortasse curatos, cum tot milibus subuenerit nemo et plena sint omnia miserorum infeliciumque delubra? nisi forte dicetis, opem bonis ab diis ferri, malorum miserias despici. atquin Christus aequaliter bonis malisque subuenit nec repulsus ab hoc quisquam est qui rebus auxilium duris contra impetum postulabat iniuriasque fortunae. hoc est enim proprium dei ueri potentiaeque regalis, benignitatem suam negare nulli nec reputare, quis mereatur aut minime, cum naturalis infirmitas peccatorem hominem faciat, non uoluntatis seu iudicationis electio. dicere porro meritis opem laborantibus ab diis ferri, hoc est in medio ponere et dubitabile quod adseras facere, ut et ille qui sanus est factus fortuito possit uideri esse seruatus et ille qui non est non meriti causa sed infirmitate credatur ualetudinem expellere non potuisse diuina.
And since you compare the benefits of health given by other deities with those given by Christ, how many thousands of sick people do you want us to show you, how many afflicted with wasting diseases, who obtained no healing at all, though they went as suppliants through all the temples, though they lay prostrate before the faces of the gods and swept the very thresholds with their kisses, though, as long as life remained to them, they wearied Aesculapius himself, the giver of health as they call him, with prayers and summoned him with most pitiable vows? Do we not know that some died of their ills, that others grew old in the torments of disease, that others began to fare worse after they had spent days and nights in continual prayers and in pious expectation? What use is it, then, to show that one or two were perhaps cured, when no one helped so many thousands and all the shrines are full of the wretched and unhappy? Unless perhaps you will say that the gods bring help to the good and disregard the miseries of the wicked. Yet Christ helped good and bad alike, and no one was rejected by him who asked for help in hard circumstances against the attacks and injuries of fortune. For this is the mark of the true God and of royal power: to deny his kindness to no one, and not to consider who deserves it or not, since it is natural weakness, not the choice of will or judgment, that makes a person a sinner. Moreover, to say that the gods bring help to sufferers according to their merits is to leave the matter open and make what you assert doubtful, so that both the one who was made well may seem to have been saved by chance, and the one who was not may be believed to have been unable to drive out his illness, not because of his deserts, but because of the weakness of the divine power.
Matt 5:45 (echo, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Countless sufferers prayed in vain at the temples, while Christ helped good and bad alike without regard to merit.
- Arnobius's statement that natural weakness, not choice of will, makes a person a sinner is his own view, stated here in passing.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.49 (CSEL 4:33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-49). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.50CSEL 4:33–34
quid quod istas uirtutes, quae sunt a nobis summatim, non ut rei poscebat magnitudo, depromptae, non tantum ipse perfecit ui sua, uerum, quod erat sublimius, multos alios experiri et facere sui nominis cum adiectione permisit. nam cum uideret futuros uos esse gestarum ab se rerum diuinique operis abrogatores, ne qua subesset suspicio, magicis se artibus munera illa beneficiaque largitum, ex immensa illa populi multitudine, quae suam gratiam sectabatur admirans, piscatores opifices rusticanos atque id genus delegit imperitorum, qui per uarias gentes missi cuncta illa miracula sine ullis fucis atque adminiculis perpetrarent. uerbo ille compescuit uerminantium membrorum cruces, et illi uerbo compescuerunt furialium uermina passionum. imperio ille uno exturbauit a corporibus daemonas et exanimatis suos restituit sensus, sub eorum tortantes et illi se † casibus iussione non alia sanitati et constantiae reddiderunt. ille notas albicantium uitiliginum manu admota detersit, liniamenta et hi corporum haud dissimili conciliauere contactu. uliginosa ille et turgentia uiscera siccitatem iussit reciperare natiuam, et famuli eius hoc modo statuerunt errantes aquas et a pernicie corporum suos labi iussere per tramites. ille ulcera oris inmensi et recusantia perpeti sanitatem intra unius uerbi moram continuato frenauit a pastu, et illi haud aliter contumaciam canceris saeui ad subeundam cicatricem circumscriptis euaginationibus compulerunt. incessum ille claudis dedit, uisum luminibus caecis, interemptos reuocauit ad uitam, nec minus et hi quoque contractionem relaxauere neruorum, luce oculos impleuere iam perdita et ab tumulis remeare defunctos exequiarum conuersione iusserunt. neque quicquam est ab illo gestum per admirationem stupentibus cunctis, quod non omne donauerit faciendum paruolis illis et rusticis et eorum subiecerit potestati.
What of this, that these mighty works, which we have set out in summary and not as the greatness of the matter demanded, he not only performed by his own power, but, what was more sublime, allowed many others to attempt and to perform with the addition of his name? For since he saw that you would be deniers of the things he had done and of his divine work, so that no suspicion might arise that he had lavished those gifts and benefits by magic arts, from that immense multitude of people who followed his favor in wonder he chose fishermen, craftsmen, rustics, and unskilled people of that kind, to be sent through various nations and perform all those miracles without any pretense or aids. He by a word checked the tortures of racked limbs, and they by a word checked the racking of frenzied sufferings. He by a single command drove demons from bodies and restored their senses to the senseless; they too, by no other command, restored to health and soundness those tormented by them ... He wiped away the marks of whitening leprosy by laying on his hand; they too restored the outlines of bodies by a not dissimilar touch. He commanded dropsical and swollen inward parts to recover their natural dryness; and his servants in this way stopped the wandering waters and bade them flow away by their own channels, away from the ruin of the body. He, within the interval of a single word, curbed from further feeding ulcers of great size that refused to accept healing; and they in the same way forced the stubbornness of a savage cancer, its spreading growths confined, to form a scar. He gave walking to the lame, sight to the blind, called back the slain to life; and they no less loosened the contraction of sinews, filled with light eyes already lost, and commanded the dead to return from their tombs, reversing the funeral rites. Nor was anything done by him, to the astonishment of all, that he did not give entirely to those little and rustic men to do, and place under their power.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Matt 10:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 10:8 (allusion, medium confidence) · Mark 16:17–18 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 4:18–19 (allusion, low confidence) · Acts 3:6–8 (allusion, low confidence) · Acts 9:36–41 (allusion, low confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christ gave his unlearned disciples power to work the same miracles in his name, proving they were not magic.
- The disciples' commission to heal recalls Matt 10:1, 8 and Mark 16:17–18; the apostles' miracles recall Acts (e.g. Acts 3:6–8, 9:36–41). The clause about demons is corrupt ('sub eorum tortantes ... † casibus'); translated by sense.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.50 (CSEL 4:33–34; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-50). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.51CSEL 4:34–35
quid dicitis, o mentes incredulae difficiles durae, alicuine mortalium Iuppiter ille Capitolinus huiusmodi potestatem dedit? curionem aut pontificem maximum, quinimmo dialem, quod eius est, flaminem isto iure donauit? non dicam, ut mortuos excitaret, non ut caecis restitueret lucem, non ut membrorum situs curuatis redderet et dissolutis, sed ut pustulam reduuiam papulam aut uocis imperio aut manus contrectatione comprimeret. ergo illud humanum fuit aut ex ore terrenis stercoribus innutrito tale potuit ius dari, talis licentia proficisci, et non diuinum et sacrum, aut si aliquam superlationem res capit, plusquam diuinum et sacrum? nam si facias ipse quod possis et quod tuis sit uiribus potentatuique conueniens, admiratio non habet quod exclamet: id enim quod potueris feceris et quod praestare debuerit uis tua, ut operis esset una et ipsius qui operaretur aequalitas. transscribere posse in hominem ius tuum et quod facere solus possis fragilissimae rei donare et participare faciendum, supra omnia sitae est potestatis continentisque sub sese est rerum omnium causas et rationum facultatumque naturas.
What do you say, unbelieving, difficult, hard minds? Did that Jupiter of the Capitol give such power to any mortal? Did he endow a curio or the chief pontiff, or indeed his own priest, the flamen Dialis, with such a right? I will not say to raise the dead, nor to restore light to the blind, nor to give back the proper position of their limbs to the bent and the paralyzed, but to suppress a pimple, a hangnail, or a pustule by the command of the voice or the touch of the hand. Was that, then, a human thing, or could such a right be given, such freedom proceed, from a mouth fed on earthly dung, and not something divine and holy, or, if the matter allows any higher term, more than divine and holy? For if you yourself do what you can, and what befits your strength and power, wonder has nothing to exclaim at: you will have done what you could, and what your strength ought to perform, so that the work and the worker were equal. To be able to transfer your right to a man, and to give to a most fragile thing and share with it the doing of what you alone can do, belongs to a power placed above all things and holding under itself the causes of all things and the natures of reasons and faculties.
Notes and citation
Summary: No pagan god ever gave priests power to heal, whereas Christ's sharing of his power with men shows a power above all things.
- A stray period after 'est,' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): eius est,. flaminem → eius est, flaminem.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.51 (CSEL 4:34–35; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-29/#p-1-51). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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