Against the Nations 1.1–1.28
Latin text: CSEL 4 (Latin text: A. Reifferscheid (CSEL 4, 1875), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 6 (1886).
Chapter 1
1.1CSEL 4:3
Quoniam comperi nonnullos, qui se plurimum sapere suis persuasionibus credunt, insanire, bacchari et uelut quiddam promptum ex oraculo dicere: postquam esse in mundo Christiana gens coepit, terrarum orbem perisse, multiformibus malis affectum esse genus humanum, ipsos etiam caelites derelictis curis sollemnibus, quibus quondam solebant inuisere res nostras, terrarum ab regionibus exterminatos: statui pro captu ac mediocritate sermonis contraire inuidiae et calumniosas dissoluere criminationes, ne aut illi sibi uideantur, popularia dum uerba depromunt, magnum aliquid dicere aut si nos talibus continuerimus ab litibus, obtinuisse se causam putent uictam sui uitio non adsertorum silentio destitutam. neque enim negauerim ualidissimam esse accusationem istam hostilibusque condignos odiis nos esse, si apud nos esse constiterit causas, per quas suis mundus aberrauit ab legibus, exterminati sunt dii longe, examina tanta maerorum mortalium inportata sunt saeculis.
I have found that some people who think themselves very wise in their own convictions are raving, running wild, and declaring, as though uttering something straight from an oracle, that since the Christian people began to exist in the world the world has gone to ruin, the human race has been struck with evils of many forms, and even the heavenly gods themselves, abandoning the customary care with which they once used to look after our affairs, have been driven out of the regions of the earth. So I have resolved, as far as my ability and my modest powers of speech allow, to oppose this ill will and to refute these slanderous charges, so that neither they may think they are saying something great when they repeat the talk of the crowd, nor, if we hold back from such disputes, may they think they have won a case that was lost by its own fault and not abandoned through the silence of its defenders. For I would not deny that this is a very grave accusation, and that we deserve the hatred due to enemies, if it were established that the causes lie with us through which the world has strayed from its laws, the gods have been driven far away, and such swarms of sorrows have been brought upon the generations of mortals.
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Summary: Arnobius states his purpose: to answer the charge that since Christians appeared the world has gone to ruin and the gods have left the earth.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.1 (CSEL 4:3; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.2CSEL 4:3–5
inspiciamus igitur opinionis istius mentem et hoc quod dicitur quale sit summotisque omnibus contentionum studiis, quibus obscurari et contegi contemplatio rerum solet, an sit istud quod dicitur uerum, momentorum parium examinatione pendamus. efficietur enim profecto rationum consequentium copulatu, ut non impii nos magis sed illi ipsi reperiantur criminis istius rei, qui se numinum profitentur esse cultores atque inueteratis religionibus deditos. ac primum ab his illud familiari et placida oratione perquirimus: postquam esse nomen in terris Christianae religionis occepit, quidnam inusitatum, quid incognitum, quid contra leges principaliter institutas aut sensit aut passa est rerum ipsa quae dicitur appellaturque natura? numquid in contrarias qualitates prima illa elementa mutata sunt, ex quibus res omnes consensum est esse concretas? numquid machinae huius et molis, qua uniuersi tegimur et continemur inclusi, parte est in aliqua relaxata aut dissoluta constructio? numquid uertigo haec mundi primigenii motus moderamen excedens aut tardius repere aut praecipiti coepit uolubilitate raptari? numquid ab occiduis partibus attollere se astra atque in ortus fieri signorum coepta est inclinatio? numquid ipse siderum sol princeps, cuius omnia luce uestiuntur atque animantur calore, exarsit aut intepuit atque in contrarios habitus moderaminis soliti temperamenta corrupit? numquid luna desiuit redintegrare se ipsam atque in ueteres formas nouellarum semper restitutione traducere? numquid frigora, numquid calores, numquid tepores medii inaequalium temporum confusionibus occiderunt? numquid longos habere dies bruma et reuocare tardissimas luces nox coepit aestatis? numquid suas animas expirauerunt uenti emortuisque flaminibus neque caelum coactatur in nubila nec madidari ex imbribus arua † succedunt? commendata semina tellus recusat accipere aut frondescere arbores nolunt? sapor frugibus esculentis et uitis liquoribus mutatus est? olearum ex baculis cruor taeter exprimitur nec lumini subministratur extincto? animalia terris sueta atque in aquis degentia non suriunt, non concipiunt, fetus non in uteris sumptos suis moribus et sua lege custodiunt? ipsi homines denique, quos per duas habitabiles oras terrae sparsit prima incipiensque natiuitas, non matrimonia copulant nuptiarum sollemnibus iustis? non dulcissimas procreant liberorum stirpes? non negotia publica, non priuata et familiares res agunt? non, ut cuique libitum est, per diuersas artium disciplinarumque rationes et ingenia derigunt et studiosae referunt nauitatis usuras? non regnant, non imperant quibus sors rerum adtributa est talium? non auctiores cotidie dignitatibus et potestatibus fiunt, iudiciorum disceptationibus praesunt, leges interpretantur et iura? nonne omnia cetera, quibus uita succingitur et continetur humana, suis omnes in gentibus patriorum celebrant institutionibus morum?
Let us therefore examine the sense of that opinion and what sort of thing it is that is being said, and, setting aside all eagerness for dispute, by which the view of things is usually obscured and covered over, let us weigh with an even balance whether what is said is true. For it will surely come about, by a chain of consequent reasoning, that not we but they themselves are found guilty of that charge, who profess to be worshipers of the deities and devoted to long-established religions. And first we ask them this in friendly and gentle speech: since the name of the Christian religion began to exist on earth, what unusual thing, what unknown thing, what thing contrary to the laws laid down in the beginning has the so-called and so-named 'nature of things' felt or suffered? Have those first elements, from which it is agreed all things are compounded, been changed into opposite qualities? Has the structure of this machine and mass, by which we are all covered and held enclosed, been loosened or broken up in any part? Has this revolution of the universe, departing from the regulation of its original motion, begun either to creep too slowly or to be swept along in headlong rotation? Have the stars begun to rise in the west and the constellations to set in the east? Has the sun himself, the prince of the stars, whose light clothes all things and whose heat gives them life, blazed up or grown lukewarm, and changed into opposite conditions the balance of his usual regulation? Has the moon ceased to renew herself and to bring herself back into her old shapes by the constant restoration of new ones? Have the cold, the heat, the moderate warmth between the unequal seasons perished through confusion of the seasons? Has winter begun to have long days, and the night of summer to call back the slowest dawns? Have the winds breathed out their breath, so that with their blasts dead the sky is not gathered into clouds and the fields do not ... become wet with rain? Does the earth refuse to receive the seeds entrusted to it, or will the trees not put forth leaves? Has the taste of edible crops and the juice of the vine been changed? Is foul blood pressed out of the olive berries, and is oil no longer supplied to the extinguished lamp? Do animals that live on land and in the water not mate, not conceive, not protect according to their own habits and their own law the young conceived in their wombs? Finally, do human beings themselves, whom their first and original birth scattered over the two habitable zones of the earth, not join in marriage with the proper rites of weddings? Do they not beget the sweetest offspring of children? Do they not carry on public business, private affairs, and family matters? Do they not, as each one pleases, direct their talents to the various branches of the arts and learning, and reap the interest of their diligent industry? Do those to whom the lot of such things has been assigned not reign and command? Do people not rise daily in rank and power, preside over the hearing of lawsuits, and interpret the laws and rights? Do not all people in their own nations observe everything else by which human life is supported and maintained, according to the institutions of their ancestral customs?
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
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Summary: Arnobius asks what change in nature or in human life has actually occurred since Christianity appeared, and finds none.
- The text is corrupt before 'become wet with rain' (the edition marks a corruption before 'succedunt'); the sense is clear.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.2 (CSEL 4:3–5; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.3CSEL 4:5–7
cum igitur haec ita sint neque ulla inruperit nouitas, quae tenorem perpetuum rerum dissociata continuatione diduxerit, quid est istud, quod dicitur inuectam esse labem terris, postquam religio Christiana intulit se mundo et ueritatis absconditae sacramenta patefecit? sed pestilentias, inquiunt, et siccitates, bella frugum inopiam locustas mures et grandines resque alias noxias, quibus negotia incursantur humana, dii nobis inportant iniuriis uestris atque offensionibus exasperati. si in rebus perspicuis et nullam desiderantibus defensionem non stoliditatis esset diutius inmorari, ostenderem profecto replicatis prioribus saeculis, mala ista quae dicitis non esse incognita, non repentinas et postquam gens nostra felicitate donari huius uocaminis meruit inrupisse has labes et infestare coepisse discriminum uarietate mortalia. si enim nos sumus in causa et in nostri criminis meritum excogitatae sunt hae pestes, unde nouit antiquitas miseriarum haec nomina, unde bellis significatum dedit? pestilentiam, grandines qua potuit ratione signare aut inter suas uoces quibus oratio explicabatur adsumere? nam si nouella sunt haec mala et ab recentibus ducunt offensionibus causas, qui potuit fieri ut eis rebus uerba formaret, quas nec ipsa sciebat expertam se esse neque ullis comperisset maiorum in temporibus factitatas? penuria, inquit, frugum et angustiae frumentariae artius nos habent. antiqua enim et uetustissima saecula necessitatis istius aliquando fuerunt expertia? nonne ipsa nomina, quibus censentur haec mala, testificantur et clamant nullum ab his umquam immunem abisse mortalium? quodsi ad credendum difficilis res esset, testimoniis agere possemus auctorum, quantae quoties et quae gentes famem senserint horridam et aggerata interierint uastitate. casus frequentissimi grandinis accidunt atque adterunt cuncta. in litteris enim priscis comprehensum et compositum non uidemus, etiam imbres saxeos totas saepe comminuisse regiones? difficiles pluuiae sata faciunt emori et sterilitatem indicunt terris. inmunis enim antiquitas malis ab his fuit, cum etiam flumina cognouerimus ingentia limis inhorruisse siccatis? pestilentiae contagia urunt genus humanum. annalium scripta percurrite linguarum diuersitatibus scripta: uniuersas discetis gentes saepenumero desolatas et uiduatas suis esse cultoribus. ab locustis, a muribus genus omne acciditur atque adroditur frugum. historias ite per uestras et ab istis pestibus instruemini quotiens prior aetas adfecta sit et paupertatis ad miserias uenerit. terrarum ualidissimis motibus tremefactae nutant usque ad periculum ciuitates: quid, hiatibus maximis interceptas urbes cum gentibus superiora tempora non uiderunt aut ab huiusmodi casibus fortunas habuere securas?
Since this is so, and no novelty has broken in to split the unbroken course of things by interrupting its continuity, what is this that is said, that a plague was brought upon the earth after the Christian religion entered the world and revealed the mysteries of hidden truth? 'But pestilences,' they say, 'and droughts, wars, crop failures, locusts, mice, hailstorms, and other harmful things by which human affairs are assailed, the gods bring upon us, provoked by your wrongs and offenses.' If it were not foolish to linger long over things that are obvious and need no defense, I would show, by unrolling past ages, that these evils you speak of are not unknown, and that these plagues did not break in suddenly, and begin to afflict mortal affairs with various disasters, after our people earned the happiness of being given this name. For if we are the cause, and these plagues were devised as the deserved punishment of our guilt, how did antiquity know the names of these miseries? How did it give wars a name? By what reasoning could it mark pestilence and hail with a word, or take them among the terms by which speech was set out? For if these evils are new and draw their causes from recent offenses, how could it happen that antiquity formed words for things which it neither knew it had experienced nor had learned had ever occurred in the times of its ancestors? 'Shortage of crops,' he says, 'and scarcity of grain press hard upon us.' Were the ancient and very old ages ever free of this necessity? Do not the very names by which these evils are called testify and cry out that no mortal was ever exempt from them? If the matter were hard to believe, we could argue from the testimony of authors how great, how often, and which nations experienced dreadful famine and perished in heaped-up devastation. Hailstorms very often occur and destroy everything. Do we not find it recorded and set down in ancient literature that even showers of stones often crushed whole regions? Unfavorable rains make the crops die and impose barrenness on the land. Was antiquity free of these evils, when we know that even great rivers grew rough with dried mud? Contagions of pestilence consume the human race. Run through the records of the annals written in different languages: you will learn that all nations have often been laid waste and bereft of their inhabitants. Every kind of crop is cut down and gnawed away by locusts and mice. Go through your own histories and you will be taught by these plagues how often an earlier age was afflicted and came to the miseries of poverty. Cities shaken by violent earthquakes totter to the point of danger: what, did former times not see cities with their peoples swallowed up in huge chasms, or did they have fortunes secure from disasters of this kind?
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Summary: Famine, plague, hail, drought, and earthquake are old evils with old names, so they cannot be caused by the recent arrival of Christians.
- A stray period in the digital text between 'atque' and 'adroditur' is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): atque. adroditur → atque adroditur.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.3 (CSEL 4:5–7; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.4CSEL 4:7
quando est humanum genus aquarum diluuiis interemptum? non ante nos? quando mundus incensus in fauillas et cineres dissolutus est? non ante nos? quando urbes amplissimae marinis coopertae sunt fluctibus? non ante nos? quando cum feris bella et proelia cum leonibus gesta sunt? non ante nos? quando pernicies populis uenenatis ab anguibus data est? non ante nos? nam quod nobis obiectare consuestis bellorum frequentium causas, uastationes urbium, Germanorum et Scythicas inruptiones, cum pace hoc uestra et cum bona uenia dixerim, quale sit istud quod dicitur calumniarum libidine non uidetis.
When was the human race destroyed by floods of water? Was it not before us? When was the world set on fire and dissolved into embers and ashes? Was it not before us? When were very great cities covered by the waves of the sea? Was it not before us? When were wars waged with wild beasts and battles with lions? Was it not before us? When was destruction brought on peoples by venomous snakes? Was it not before us? As for your habit of blaming us for the causes of frequent wars, the laying waste of cities, the invasions of the Germans and Scythians, with your leave and your good pardon let me say it: you do not see, in your eagerness to slander, what sort of thing it is that you are saying.
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Summary: Floods, conflagrations, and disasters all happened before Christians existed, and so did wars and invasions.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.4 (CSEL 4:7; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.5CSEL 4:7–8
ut ante milia annorum decem ab insula quae perhibetur Atlantica Neptuni, sicut Plato demonstrat, magna erumperet uis hominum et innumeras funditus deleret atque extingueret nationes, nos fuimus causa? ut inter Assyrios et Bactrianos Nino quondam Zoroastreque ductoribus non tantum ferro dimicaretur et uiribus, uerum etiam Magicis et Chaldaeorum ex reconditis disciplinis, inuidia nostra haec fuit? ut Helena diis ducibus atque inpulsoribus rapta et suis esset dirum et uenturis temporibus fatum, religionis nostrae attributum est criminibus? ut ille immanis Xerses mare terris immitteret et gressibus maria transiret, nostri nominis effectum est iniuria? ut ex Macedoniae finibus unus exortus adolescens Orientis regna et populos captiuitate ac seruitio subiugaret, nos fecimus atque excitauimus causas? ut modo Romani uelut aliquod flumen torrens cunctas summergerent atque obruerent nationes, nos uidelicet numina praecipitauimus in furorem? quodsi hominum nullus est, qui quae iamdudum gesta sunt nostris audeat temporibus imputare, quemadmodum possimus miseriarum esse praesentium causae, cum noui fiat nihil, sed sint omnia uetera et nullis antiquitatibus inaudita?
Ten thousand years ago, when, as Plato shows, a great multitude of men burst out from the island called Atlantis of Neptune and utterly destroyed and wiped out countless nations, were we the cause? When between the Assyrians and the Bactrians, under the leadership once of Ninus and Zoroaster, war was waged not only with the sword and with strength but also with the secret arts of the Magi and the Chaldeans, was this ill will toward us? When Helen was carried off with the gods as leaders and instigators, and became a dreadful fate for her own people and for times to come, was that charged to the guilt of our religion? When that monstrous Xerxes let the sea in upon the land and crossed the seas on foot, was this brought about by the wrong done by our name? When a single young man rising from the borders of Macedonia subjected the kingdoms and peoples of the East to captivity and slavery, did we create and stir up the causes? When just now the Romans, like some rushing torrent, overwhelmed and swamped all nations, was it we, of course, who drove the gods into a frenzy? But if there is no one who dares to charge to our times what was done long ago, how can we be the causes of present miseries, when nothing new is happening, but all things are old and none of them unheard of in antiquity?
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Summary: Great wars of the past, from Atlantis to Alexander and Rome, were not caused by Christians.
- Atlantis: Plato, Timaeus 24e–25d and Critias. Ninus and Zoroaster: a legendary war told by Greek historians (Ctesias, via Diodorus Siculus). Xerxes: his canal through Athos and his bridge over the Hellespont. The young man from Macedonia is Alexander the Great.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 24e–25d (Plato (works); allusion)
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.5 (CSEL 4:7–8; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.6CSEL 4:8
quamquam ista quae dicitis bella religionis nostrae ob inuidiam commoueri non sit difficile comprobare post auditum Christum in mundo non tantum non aucta uerum etiam maiore de parte furiarum compressionibus imminuta. nam cum hominum uis tanta magisteriis eius acceperimus ac legibus, malum malo rependi non oportere, iniuriam perpeti quam inrogare esse praestantius, suum potius fundere quam alieno polluere manus et conscientiam cruore habet a Christo beneficium iamdudum orbis ingratus, per quem feritatis mollita est rabies atque hostiles manus cohibere a sanguine cognati animantis occepit. quodsi omnes omnino qui homines se esse non specie corporum sed rationis intellegunt potestate, salutaribus eius pacificisque decretis aurem uellent commodare paulisper et non fastu et supercilio tumidi suis potius sensibus quam illius commonitionibus crederent, uniuersus iamdudum orbis mitiora in opera conuersis usibus ferri tranquillitate in mollissima degeret et in concordiam salutarem incorruptis foederum sanctionibus conueniret.
And yet it would not be hard to prove that these wars you speak of, since Christ was heard in the world, have not only not increased because of hatred of our religion, but have for the most part been reduced by the restraint of passions. For since so great a multitude of people has received from his teaching and laws that evil ought not to be repaid with evil, that it is better to suffer wrong than to inflict it, that one should shed one's own blood rather than stain one's hands and conscience with another's, the ungrateful world has long enjoyed a benefit from Christ, through whom the madness of savagery has been softened and has begun to hold back hostile hands from the blood of a fellow creature. But if all without exception who understand that they are human not by the shape of their bodies but by the power of reason were willing to lend an ear for a little while to his saving and peaceful commands, and did not, swollen with pride and disdain, trust their own opinions rather than his admonitions, the whole world would long ago have turned the use of iron to gentler works and would be living in the softest tranquility, and would come together in wholesome concord, with the terms of its treaties kept inviolate.
Rom 12:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · Matt 5:39 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christ's teaching not to repay evil with evil has reduced war, and if all obeyed it the world would live in peace.
- The teaching recalls Rom 12:17 and 1 Thess 5:15 ('do not repay evil for evil') and Matt 5:39. A stray period after 'aucta' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): non aucta. uerum → non aucta uerum.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.6 (CSEL 4:8; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.7CSEL 4:8–9
sed si per uos, inquiunt, nihil rebus incommodatur humanis, unde sunt haec mala, quibus urgetur et premitur iamdudum miseranda mortalitas? sententiam me poscis huic necessariam nihil causae. neque enim praesens atque in manibus posita disceptatio nec in id sumpta est a me ut ostenderem uel probarem, quibus unaquaeque res causis et rationibus fieret, sed ut maledicta criminis tanti procul esse ab nobis ostenderem. quod si praesto, si facio et argumentis insignibus rei ueritas explicatur, unde sint haec mala uel ex quibus profluant fontibus principiisque non curo.
'But if human affairs suffer no harm through you,' they say, 'where do these evils come from by which wretched mortality has long been pressed and burdened?' You ask of me an opinion that my case does not require at all. For the present dispute in hand was not undertaken by me in order to show or prove from what causes and reasons each thing comes about, but to show that the reproach of so great a crime is far from us. If I achieve this, if I do it, and the truth of the matter is set out by clear arguments, I do not care where these evils come from, or from what sources and beginnings they flow.
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Summary: Arnobius's task is only to clear Christians of blame, not to explain the causes of evils.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.7 (CSEL 4:8–9; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.8CSEL 4:9
ac ne tamen omnino quid de rebus huiusmodi sentiam nihil uidear interrogatus expromere, possum dicere: quid enim, si prima materies, quae in rerum quattuor elementa digesta est, miseriarum omnium causas suis continet in rationibus inuolutas? quid si siderum motus certis signis partibus temporibus lineis pariunt haec mala et subiectis adferunt uariorum discriminum necessitates? quid si statis temporibus rerum uicissitudines fiunt atque ut in maritimis aestibus modo secundae res adfluunt modo rursus refluunt malis reciprocantibus prospera? quid si materiae faex ista, quam sub nostris calcamus ingressibus, hanc habet sibi legem datam ut expiret nocentissimos halitus, quibus corruptus aer iste et corporibus labem ferat et negotia infirmet humana? quid si, quod proximum uero est, quicquid nobis uidetur aduersum, mundo ipsi non est malum omniaque quae fiunt nostris commoditatibus statuentes, opinionibus inprobis criminamur euenta naturae? Plato ille sublimis apex philosophorum et columen saeua illa diluuia et conflagrationes mundi purgationem terrarum suis esse in commentariis prodidit nec uir prudens extimuit humani generis subuersionem cladem ruinas interitus funera rerum innouationem uocare, etenim iuuentutem his quandam redintegratis uiribus comparari.
And yet, so that I may not seem, when asked, to say nothing at all of what I think about such matters, I can say this. What if the primary matter, which has been divided into the four elements of things, holds the causes of all miseries wrapped up in its own constitution? What if the motions of the stars, in certain signs, regions, times, and lines, give birth to these evils and bring on those below them the necessity of various disasters? What if at fixed times changes in things occur, and, as in the tides of the sea, prosperity now flows in and now ebbs again, with evils coming back in turn? What if this dregs of matter which we tread under our feet has had this law given to it, to breathe out most harmful vapors, by which this air is corrupted and brings disease to bodies and weakens human affairs? What if, which is nearest the truth, whatever seems adverse to us is not an evil for the world itself, and, measuring everything that happens by our own advantage, we find fault with the events of nature through wrong opinions? Plato, that lofty summit and pillar of philosophers, taught in his writings that those savage floods and conflagrations of the world are a purging of the earth, and that wise man was not afraid to call the overthrow of the human race, its disaster, ruin, destruction, and deaths a renewal of things, and to compare it to a kind of youth restored by renewed strength.
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Summary: Arnobius suggests possible natural causes of evils and notes that what harms us may not be evil for the world as a whole.
- Plato on floods and fires as purgations: Timaeus 22c–23b. Two stray periods in the digital text are removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): secundae. res → secundae res; humani. generis → humani generis.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Tim. 22c–23b (Plato (works); allusion)
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.8 (CSEL 4:9; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.9CSEL 4:9–10
non pluit, inquit, caelum et frumentorum inopia nescio qua laboramus. quid enim inseruire elementa tuis necessitatibus postulas atque ut uiuere mollius et delicatius tu possis, obsequia temporum tuis debent commoditatibus se dare? quid enim si hoc pacto nauigationis cupidissimus conqueratur uentos iamdiu non esse et caeli conquieuisse flaturas? numquid ideo dicendum est, perniciosam esse tranquillitatem illam mundi, quia uectoribus impediat uota? quid si sole aliquis torrere se suetus et adquirere corpori siccitatem ratione consimili conqueratur frequentissimis nubilis iucunditatem serenitatis ablatam? numquid ideo dicenda sunt nubila inimica obductione pendere, quia libidini non permittitur otiose rutilare se flammis et causas potionibus praeparare? euenta haec omnia quae fiunt et accidunt mole sub hac mundi commodulis non sunt nostris sed ipsius pendenda sunt rationibus ordinibusque naturae.
'The sky does not rain,' he says, 'and we are suffering from some shortage of grain.' Why, do you demand that the elements serve your needs, and that the seasons must yield their compliance to your convenience so that you can live more softly and luxuriously? What if, on the same principle, a man very eager to sail were to complain that for a long time there have been no winds and the breezes of the sky have fallen still? Must we therefore say that the calm of the world is harmful, because it hinders the wishes of travelers? What if someone accustomed to bake himself in the sun and to give his body dryness were to complain on similar grounds that the pleasure of fair weather had been taken away by frequent clouds? Must we therefore say that the clouds hang overhead with a hostile covering, because his desire is not allowed to redden itself idly in the flames and to work up a thirst for drinking? All these events that occur and happen within the mass of this world are to be weighed not by our petty conveniences but by the reasons and order of nature itself.
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Summary: Weather and seasons serve the order of nature, not human convenience.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.9 (CSEL 4:9–10; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.10CSEL 4:10
nec si aliquid accidit quod nosmet ipsos aut res nostras parum laetis successibus fouit, continuo malum est et in exitiabilis rei opinione ponendum. pluit mundus ant non pluit: sibimet pluit aut non pluit, et quod forsitan nescias, aut uliginem nimiam siccitatis ardore decoquit aut longissimi temporis ariditatem pluuiarum effusionibus temperat. pestilentias morbos fames atque alias suggerit malorum exitiabiles formas: unde tibi est scire, ne quod exuberat sic tollat ut per sua dispendia modum rebus luxuriantibus figat?
Nor, if something has happened that has favored us or our affairs with less happy results, is it at once an evil and to be counted a ruinous thing. The world rains or does not rain: it rains or does not rain for itself, and, what you perhaps do not know, it either dries up excessive dampness with the heat of drought or tempers the dryness of a very long time by pouring out rain. It brings on pestilences, diseases, famines, and other deadly forms of evil: how do you know whether it is not removing what is in excess, so as to set a limit, by its own losses, to things that are growing rank?
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Summary: What seems harmful to us may serve to restore balance in nature.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.10 (CSEL 4:10; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.11CSEL 4:10–11
tu audeas dicere: hoc et illud est in mundo malum, cuius explicare, dissoluere neque originem ualeas neque causam, et quia tuas impediat deliciarum forsitan et libidinum uoluptates, perniciosum esse atque asperum dicas? quid ergo, quia frigus membris tuis aduersum est et congelare, constringere sanguinis tui feruorem solet, idcirco in mundo hiemps esse non debet? et quia sustinere, perferre flagrantissimos soles nequis, ex anno aestas tollenda est atque aliis legibus alia rursus ordinanda natura? ueratrum uenenum est hominibus: numquid ob hanc causam non debuit nasci? ouilibus insidiatur lupus: numquid in culpa natura est, quod lanitiis extulit inportunissimam beluam? morsu animam serpens tollit: maledicas primordiis rerum, quod tam saeua prodigia genituris spirantibus addiderunt.
Would you dare to say: 'This and that thing in the world is evil', when you can neither explain nor unravel its origin or its cause, and call it harmful and harsh because perhaps it hinders the pleasures of your luxuries and desires? What then, because cold is hostile to your limbs and usually freezes and constricts the warmth of your blood, ought there therefore to be no winter in the world? And because you cannot bear and endure the most blazing suns, must summer be taken out of the year, and nature be arranged again differently under other laws? Hellebore is poison to men: ought it for that reason not to have been produced? The wolf lies in wait for sheepfolds: is nature at fault because it brought forth a most troublesome beast for the flocks? The serpent takes away life with its bite: curse the first beginnings of things, then, because they added such savage monsters to living creatures!
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Summary: Things harmful to human beings, like cold, heat, poisons, and wild beasts, are not therefore evils in nature.
- A stray period after 'causam' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): causam. non debuit → causam non debuit.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.11 (CSEL 4:10–11; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.12CSEL 4:11
superciliosa nimium res est, cum ipse sis non tuus, aliena etiam in possessione uerseris, potentioribus dare condicionem uelle, ut id fiat quod cupias, non quod in rebus inueneris antiquis constitutionibus fixum. quare habere si locum uestras uultis querimonias, homines, prius est ut doceatis, unde uel qui sitis, uobisne sit genitus et fabricatus mundus an in eum ueneritis alienis ex regionibus inquilini. quod cum dicere non sit uestrum neque explicare possitis cuius rei causa sub hac caeli conuexione uersemini, desistite arbitrari pertinere ad uos quicquam, cum ea quae fiunt non partiliter fiant, sed ad census summam redeant referanturque totius.
It is an excessively arrogant thing, when you are not your own master and live in another's property, to want to impose terms on those more powerful, so that what you desire happens rather than what you have found fixed in things by ancient ordinances. So if you want your complaints to have any standing, men, you must first teach us where you come from or who you are, whether the world was begotten and fashioned for you, or whether you came into it as tenants from foreign regions. Since it is not for you to say this, and you cannot explain for what purpose you dwell under this vault of heaven, stop thinking that anything concerns you, since what happens does not happen for parts but returns and is referred to the sum of the whole.
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Summary: Human beings do not own the world and cannot demand that it serve them, since events concern the whole.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.12 (CSEL 4:11; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.13CSEL 4:11
Christianorum, inquiunt, causa mala omnia di ingerunt et interitus comparatur ab superis frugibus. rogo, cum haec dicitis, non calumniari uos improbe in apertis conspicitis manifestisque mendaciis? trecenti sunt anni ferme minus uel plus aliquid, ex quo coepimus esse Christiani et terrarum in orbe censeri: numquid omnibus his annis continua fuerunt bella, continuae sterilitates, pax nulla in terris, nulla protinus uilitas aut abundantia rerum fuit? hoc enim primum efficiendum est ei qui nos arguit, perpetuas et iuges calamitates fuisse has, numquam omnino respirasse mortalia et sine ullis ut dicitur feriis multiplicium formas sustinuisse discriminum.
'Because of the Christians,' they say, 'the gods heap all evils upon us, and destruction is prepared for the crops by the powers above.' I ask you, when you say this, do you not see that you are wickedly slandering with open and manifest lies? It is about three hundred years, a little less or more, since we began to be Christians and to be counted in the world. Through all these years have there been continual wars, continual barren seasons, no peace on earth, and never any cheapness or abundance of goods at all? For this is the first thing that one who accuses us must prove: that these calamities have been perpetual and unbroken, that mortal affairs have never breathed again at all, and have endured the forms of manifold dangers without any holidays, as the saying goes.
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Summary: In the roughly three hundred years of Christianity there have been times of peace and plenty, so disasters cannot be blamed on Christians.
- 'About three hundred years': Arnobius's reckoning from Christ, one of the indications for dating the work ca. 300. A stray period after 'hoc' in the digital text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): hoc. enim → hoc enim.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.13 (CSEL 4:11; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.14CSEL 4:11–12
atquin uidemus mediis his annis mediisque temporibus ex uictis hostibus innumerabiles esse uictorias reportatas, prolatos imperii fines et in potestatem redactas inauditi nominis nationes: saepenumero maximos annorum fuisse prouentus, uilitates atque abundantias rerum tantas ut commercia stuperent uniuersa pretiorum auctoritate prostrata. quemadmodum enim res agi et usque ad hoc tempus genus quisset durare mortalium, si non omnia quae usus uitae posceret subministraret fertilitas rerum?
Yet we see that during these years and these times countless victories have been won over conquered enemies, the boundaries of the empire extended, and nations of unheard-of name brought under its power; that there have very often been the greatest harvests, and such cheapness and abundance of goods that all trade stood amazed, with the level of prices laid low. For how could affairs be carried on, and the human race have lasted until this time, if the fertility of the earth had not supplied everything that the needs of life demanded?
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Summary: Victories and good harvests during the Christian era disprove the charge.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.14 (CSEL 4:11–12; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.15CSEL 4:12
sed fuerunt aliquando nonnulla in necessitatibus tempora: et relaxata sunt abundantiis rursus; contra uoluntatem quaedam bella administrata: et uictoriis postmodum successibusque correcta. quid ergo, dicemus iniuriarum nostrarum deos modo memores esse modo esse rursus immemores? si quo tempore fames est irati esse dicuntur, sequitur ut abundantiae tempore irati et difficiles non sint: atque ita perducitur res eo ut uicibus ludicris et ponant et repetant iras et in integrum se semper offensionum * recordatione restituant.
'But there have been some times of want.' Yes, and they were relieved again by times of plenty. 'Some wars have gone against our will.' Yes, and they were afterward set right by victories and successes. What then, shall we say that the gods are at one time mindful of the wrongs done to them by us and at another forgetful? If they are said to be angry at a time of famine, it follows that at a time of plenty they are not angry and hard to please; and so the matter comes to this, that by playful alternations they lay aside and take up their anger again, and always restore themselves anew by recalling their offenses.
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Summary: If the gods caused famine out of anger at Christians, times of plenty would show that their anger comes and goes like a game.
- An asterisk in the digital text before 'recordatione' marks a doubtful place in the edition; the sense is clear.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.15 (CSEL 4:12; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.16CSEL 4:12–13
quamquam istud quod dicitur quale sit explicabili non potest conprehensione cognosci. si Alamannos Persas Scythas idcirco uoluerunt deuinci, quod habitarent et degerent in eorum gentibus Christiani: quemadmodum Romanis tribuere uictoriam, cum habitarent et degerent in eorum quoque gentibus Christiani? si in Asia, Syria idcirco mures et locustas efferuescere prodigialiter uoluerunt, quod ratione consimili habitarent in eorum gentibus Christiani: in Hispania, Gallia cur eodem tempore horum nihil natum est, cum innumeri uiuerent in his quoque prouinciis Christiani? si apud Gaetulos, † cum aquitanos huius rei causa siccitatem satis ariditatemque miserunt, eo anno cur messes amplissimas Mauris Nomadibusque tribuerunt, cum religio similis his quoque in regionibus uerteretur? si in ciuitate unaqualibet fame plurimos emori nostri nominis auersione fecerunt, cur ibidem annonaria caritate non tantum corporis non nostri uerum etiam Christianos ditiores et locupletissimos reddiderunt? aut igitur cuncti nihil laetum habere debuerunt, si malorum causa nos sumus, nationibus enim sumus in cunctis, aut cum mixta uideatis cum incommodis laeta, desinite nobis adscribere id quod offendit res uestras, cum nihil laetis officiamus et prosperis. si enim ego ut male sit facio, cur ut bene sit non obsto? si ut inopia magna sit meum nomen in causa est. cur nihil impedio ut sit feracitas maxima? si ut in bellis accipiatur uulnus ego dicor adferre fortunam, cur, duelles cum pereant, laeuum augurium non sum nec in aduersas res bonas mali ominis obscenitate traduco?
And yet what sort of thing this is that is being said cannot be grasped by any intelligible understanding. If the gods wished the Alamanni, Persians, and Scythians to be conquered because Christians lived and dwelt among their peoples, how did they give the victory to the Romans, when Christians also lived and dwelt among their peoples? If they wished mice and locusts to swarm prodigiously in Asia and Syria because, on the same reasoning, Christians lived among their peoples, why did nothing of the kind arise in Spain and Gaul at the same time, when countless Christians lived in these provinces too? If among the Gaetulians and ... they sent drought and dryness to the crops for this reason, why in that same year did they give the most abundant harvests to the Moors and the Nomads, when the same religion was practiced in these regions too? If in any one city they caused very many to die of hunger out of aversion to our name, why in that same place did they make not only people not of our body but even Christians richer and very wealthy by the high price of grain? So either no one at all ought to have had anything happy, if we are the cause of evils, for we are in all nations; or, since you see happy things mixed with troubles, stop ascribing to us what harms your affairs, since we do not hinder happy and prosperous things at all. For if I bring it about that things go badly, why do I not prevent them from going well? If my name is the cause of great want, why do I not hinder in the least the greatest fertility? If I am said to bring the fortune of receiving wounds in wars, why, when enemies perish, am I not a bad omen, and do not turn good fortune into adverse by the foulness of an evil portent?
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
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Summary: Disasters and blessings fall on regions alike where Christians live, so Christians cannot be their cause.
- The name of a second North African people after 'Gaetulians' is corrupt in the manuscript ('cum aquitanos'); editors conjecture 'Tinguitani' (people of Tingitana). Left as '...'.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.16 (CSEL 4:12–13; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.17CSEL 4:13
et tamen o magni cultores atque antistites numinum, cur irasci populis Christianis augustissimos illos adseueratis deos? ita, non aduertitis non uidetis, adfectus quam turpes, quam indecoras numinibus attribuatis insanias? quid est enim aliud irasci, quam insanire, quam furere, quam in ultionis libidinem ferri et in alterius doloris crucibus efferati pectoris alienatione bacchari? hoc ergo dii magni norunt perpetiuntur et sentiunt, quod ferae, quod beluae, quod mortiferae continent uenenato in dente natrices. quod leuitatis in homine, quod terreno in animante culpabile est, praestans illa natura et in perpetuae uirtutis firmitate consistens scire adseueratur a uobis et quid ergo sequitur necessario, nisi ut ex eorum luminibus scintillae emicent flammeae, aestuet anhelum pectus, spumae iactentur ex ore et ex uerbis ardentibus labrorum siccitas nalbescat?
And yet, O great worshipers and high priests of the deities, why do you insist that those most august gods are angry with the Christian peoples? Do you not notice, do you not see, what shameful passions, what unseemly madness you ascribe to the deities? For what else is being angry but raving, going mad, being carried away by the lust for revenge, and rioting in the derangement of a savage heart amid the torments of another's pain? So the great gods know, suffer, and feel what wild beasts and monsters and deadly water snakes with their venomous fangs contain. What is blameworthy in a human being as fickleness, in an earthly creature, you insist that that surpassing nature, standing in the firmness of perpetual excellence, knows. And what follows necessarily, then, but that fiery sparks flash from their eyes, their panting breast heaves, foam is thrown from their mouths, and the dryness of their lips grows white from their burning words?
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Summary: To say the gods are angry is to attribute to them passions unworthy of divinity.
- 'cuitores' in the digital text is a misreading of 'cultores' (worshipers).
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): cuitores → cultores.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.17 (CSEL 4:13; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.18CSEL 4:13–14
quod si uerum est istud et est exploratum et cognitum, ecferuescere deos ira et huiusmodi motu, perturbatione iactari, immortales et perpetui non sunt nec in diuinitatis alicuius existimatione ponendi. ubi enim est ullus, sicut sapientibus uidetur, adfectus, ibi esse necesse est passionem: ubi passio sita est, perturbationem consentaneum est consequi: ubi perturbatio est, ibi dolor et aegritudo est: ubi dolor et aegritudo est, imminutioni et corruptioni iam locus est: quae duo si uexant, adest uicinus interitus, mors omnia finiens et cunctis adimens sentientibus uitam.
But if this is true, and it is ascertained and known that the gods boil over with anger and are tossed by such emotion and disturbance, they are not immortal and everlasting, nor are they to be counted as having any divinity at all. For wherever there is any emotion, as the wise hold, there must be passion; where passion is found, disturbance naturally follows; where there is disturbance, there is pain and sickness; where there is pain and sickness, there is room at once for decline and corruption; and if these two afflict, destruction is near, death that ends all things and takes life from all that feel.
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Summary: Gods subject to anger would be subject to passion and therefore to decay and death.
- 'As the wise hold': the chain of reasoning echoes philosophical (Stoic and Epicurean) arguments on the impassibility of the divine.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.18 (CSEL 4:13–14; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.19CSEL 4:14
quid? quod isto modo non tantum illos leues ac feruidos, uerum, quod ab diis conuenit procul esse dimotum, et iniquos inducitis et iniustos et aequitatis uel modicae nullam prorsus optinere rationem. quid est enim tam iniustum, quam aliis irasci et alios laedere, de hominibus conqueri et innoxia dilacerare frumenta, Christianum nomen odisse et dispendiis omnibus suos labefactare cultores? an numquid idcirco in nos etiam saeuiunt,
What of this, that in this way you represent them not only as fickle and hot-tempered but also, what ought to be far removed from gods, as unfair and unjust, and holding no measure of even the slightest equity? For what is so unjust as to be angry with some and to harm others, to complain of men and tear up the harmless crops, to hate the Christian name and ruin their own worshipers with every kind of loss? Or do they perhaps rage against us too for this reason,
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Summary: Gods who punish their own worshipers for the Christians' sake would be unjust.
- The sentence continues in 1.20.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.19 (CSEL 4:14; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.20CSEL 4:14
ut intestinis uulneribus concitati in ultionem consurgatis illorum? ergo humana patrocinia dii quaerunt, et nisi uestra fuerint adsertione protecti, idonei non sunt ipsi, qui propulsare, defendere suas ualeant contumelias. quinimmo si uerum est ardere illos ira, permittite illis potestatem sui, defendant se ipsi atque in ultionem maiestatis offensae intestinas exerant experianturque uirtutes. possunt nos, si uoluerint, aestu, possunt nocentissimo frigore, possunt auris pestilibus, possunt morborum obscurissimis causis enecare, consumere atque ab omni penitus coetu exterminare mortali, aut si malum consilium est adgredi nos ui, emittant aliquod iudicationis signum, per quod esse liquidum cunctis possit, inuitissimis nos eis habitare sub caelo.
so that you, stirred by wounds within, may rise up to avenge them? So the gods seek human protection, and unless they are protected by your support they are not able themselves to repel and defend themselves against insults. Rather, if it is true that they burn with anger, allow them power over themselves: let them defend themselves and put forth and try out their inward powers in vengeance for their offended majesty. They can, if they wish, kill us with heat, with most harmful cold, with pestilential winds, with the most hidden causes of disease; they can destroy us and banish us completely from all human society. Or if it is bad policy to attack us with force, let them send out some sign of their judgment, by which it may be clear to all that we live under heaven against their extreme will.
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Summary: If the gods are angry, let them defend themselves directly instead of needing human avengers.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.20 (CSEL 4:14; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.21CSEL 4:14–15
nobis secundas tribuant ualetudines, aduersas nobis ac pessimas. opportunis imbribus uestra inrigent rura, pluuiarum quicumque sunt rores nostris ab agellulis abigant. lanitia curent uestra numerosis fetibus multiplicari, sterilitatem infaustam nostris pecuariis inferant. ex oliuetis uestris atque uinetis plenam faciant autumnitatem fundi, at ex nostris exprimi unum prohibeant palmitibus rorem. ad extremum et ultimum in uestro ore praecipiant suam fruges retinere naturam, at uero in nostro mel amarum fieri, olearum fluenta rancescere et sub ipsius poculi labris in acoris perfidiam uinum repente mutari.
Let them give you good health and us bad and the worst. Let them water your fields with timely showers and drive whatever drops of rain there are away from our little plots. Let them see that your flocks multiply with numerous young, and bring an ill-omened barrenness on our herds. Let them make a full autumn harvest flow from your olive groves and vineyards, but forbid a single drop to be pressed from our vines. Finally and at last, let them command that in your mouths the crops keep their own nature, but in ours honey turn bitter, the streams of olive oil go rancid, and wine at the very lip of the cup suddenly change into treacherous sourness.
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Summary: If the gods hated Christians, they could make their blessings fall only on pagans.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.21 (CSEL 4:14–15; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.22CSEL 4:15
quod cum minime fieri testificentur res ipsae neque minus ad nos quicquam neque ad uos plurimum redundare uitalibus ex beneficiis constet, libido quae tanta est inimicos atque hostes deos esse contendere Christianis, quos in rebus tristissimis atque laetis nihil abs te uideas ratione in aliqua discrepare? si uerum uobis permittitis ac sine ullis adsentationibus dici: uerba sunt haec, uerba sunt, res immo per calumnias creditae, non cognitionis alicuius testimonio comprobatae.
Since the facts themselves testify that this does not happen at all, and it is clear that no less comes to us and no more to you from the benefits that sustain life, what great desire is this, to maintain that the gods are enemies and foes of the Christians, when you see that in the saddest and the happiest circumstances they differ from you in no respect? If you allow the truth to be told to you, without any flattery: these are words, words, things believed through slanders, not proved by the testimony of any real knowledge.
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Summary: Since pagans and Christians fare alike, the claim that the gods hate Christians is mere slander.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.22 (CSEL 4:15; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.23CSEL 4:15–16
ceterum dii ueri et qui habere, qui ferre nominis huius auctoritatem condigni sunt, neque irascuntur neque indignantur neque quod alteri noceat insidiosis machinationibus construunt. etenim reuera est impium et sacrilegia cuncta transcendens, sapientem illam credere beatissimamque naturam magnum aliquid putare, si se sibi aliquis adulatoria humilitate summittat: et si fuerit non factum, despectam se credere et ab summi culminis decidisse fastigio. puerile, pusillum est et exile, uix et illis conueniens, quos iamdudum experientia doctorum daemonas appellat et heroas, non nosse caelestia et in hac rerum materia crassiore condicionis suae sorte uersari.
But the true gods, those worthy to have and bear the dignity of this name, are neither angry nor indignant, nor do they devise harm to anyone by treacherous schemes. For truly it is impious and surpasses every sacrilege to believe that that wise and most blessed nature thinks it a great thing if someone submits himself to it with flattering humility, and, if this is not done, believes itself despised and fallen from the height of its supreme summit. It is childish, petty, and mean, hardly fitting even for those whom the experience of the learned has long called demons and heroes, beings who do not know heavenly things and dwell, by the lot of their condition, in this grosser matter of things.
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Summary: True gods would not be angry or vindictive; such pettiness hardly suits even demons.
- Arnobius speaks here hypothetically of 'true gods'; his own position on the pagan gods is developed later in the work.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.23 (CSEL 4:15–16; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin text of Reifferscheid, CSEL 4 (1875); made independently of existing English translations and compared afterwards with ANF 6.
1.24CSEL 4:16
uestra sunt haec, uestra sunt inreligiose opinata et inreligiosius credita. quinimmo, ut uerius proloquar, haruspices has fabulas, coniectores harioli uates et numquam non uani concinnauere fanatici, qui ne suae artes intereant ac ne stipes exiguas consultoribus excutiant iam raris, si quando uos uelle rem uenire in inuidiam compererunt, negleguntur dii, clamitant, atque in templis iam raritas summa est, iacent antiquae derisui caerimoniae et sacrorum quondam ueterrimi ritus religionum nouarum superstitionibus occiderunt, et merito humanum genus tot miseriarum angustiis premitur, tot laborum excruciatur aerumnis: et homines, brutum genus et quod situm sub lumine est caecitate ingenita nequeuntes uidere, audent adseuerare furiosi quod uos credere non erubescitis sani.
These are your ideas, yours, irreligiously conceived and more irreligiously believed. Or rather, to speak more truly, it is soothsayers, interpreters of omens, diviners, prophets, and fanatics who are never not deluded who have strung these tales together. So that their arts may not perish, and so that they may not fail to shake small coins from their clients, who are already few, whenever they find you willing to have the matter made odious, they cry out: 'The gods are neglected, and there is now the greatest scarcity of worshipers in the temples; the ancient ceremonies lie ridiculed, and the very old rites of sacred things once observed have fallen before the superstitions of new religions; and rightly is the human race pressed by the straits of so many miseries and tortured by the hardships of so many toils.' And men, a dull race, unable through inborn blindness to see what lies in the light, dare in their madness to assert what you, in your right mind, do not blush to believe.
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Summary: The charge against Christians is spread by soothsayers and diviners who fear the loss of their income.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray comma in the digital text): tot, laborum → tot laborum.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.24 (CSEL 4:16; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.25CSEL 4:16–17
ac ne quis nos tamen diffidentia responsionis tranquillitatis existimet deos donare muneribus, innoxias adfingere his mentes atque ab omni perturbatione dimotas, concedamus, sicut libitum uobis est, intendere in nos iras, sanguinem illos sitire nostrum et iamdudum nos cupere mortalium submouere de saeculis. sed si non est molestum, non graue, si communis officii res est, non ex gratia, sed ex uero disceptationis huius disceptare momenta, audire a uobis exposcimus, quaenam sit haec ratio, quae causa propter quam in nos tantum et dii saeuiant superi et asperati homines inardescant. religiones, inquiunt, impias atque inauditos cultus terrarum in orbe tractatis. quid o participes rationis audetis homines proloqui, quid effutire, quid promere temerariae uocis desperatione temptatis? deum principem, rerum cunctarum quaecumque sunt dominum, summitatem omnium summorum obtinentem, adorare, obsequio uenerabili inuocare, in rebus fessis totis ut ita dixerim sensibus amplexari amare suspicere execrabilis religio est et infausta, impietatis et sacrilegii plena, caerimonias antiquitus institutas nouitatis suae superstitione contaminans?
But so that no one may think that we, from lack of an answer, credit the gods with the gift of tranquility and ascribe to them minds that are harmless and removed from all disturbance, let us grant, as you please, that they direct their anger against us, that they thirst for our blood, and that they have long desired to remove us from the ages of mortals. But if it is not troublesome, not burdensome, if it is a matter of common duty to weigh the points of this dispute not by favor but by the truth, we ask to hear from you what this reason is, what cause, for which the gods above rage so against us and men burn with such bitterness. 'You practice impious religions,' they say, 'and unheard-of rites throughout the world.' What do you dare to say, you men who share in reason? What do you attempt to blurt out, to bring forth, with the recklessness of a rash tongue? To adore God the Supreme, the Lord of all things that exist, who holds the summit of all that is highest; to call upon him with reverent obedience; in our weariness to embrace him, so to speak, with all our senses, to love him, to look up to him: is this an accursed and ill-omened religion, full of impiety and sacrilege, polluting with the superstition of its novelty the ceremonies instituted of old?
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Summary: Granting the gods' anger for argument's sake, Arnobius asks its cause, and the accusation turns out to be that Christians worship the supreme God.
Topics: Persecution
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.25 (CSEL 4:16–17; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.26CSEL 4:17
hoccine est quaeso audax illud facinus et inmane, propter quod maximi caelites aculeos in nos intendunt irarum atque indignationum suarum, propter quod uos ipsi, cum libido incesserit saeua, exuitis nos bonis, exterminatis patriis sedibus, inrogatis supplicia capitalia, torquetis dilaceratis exuritis et ad extremum nos feris et beluarum laniatibus obiectatis? quisquis istud in nobis damnat aut in aliqua ducit criminatione ponendum, aut nomine appellandus est hominis, quamuis ille uideatur sibi, aut deus esse credendus est, quamuis ipse se esse mille profiteatur in uatibus? profanos nos, impios Dodonaeus aut Iuppiter nominat, et ipse dicetur deus atque in ordine conputabitur numinum, qui aut summo seruientibus regi crimen impietatis adfingit aut sibi torquetur maiestatem eius cultumque praeponi? Delius Apollo uel Clarius, Didymaeus Philesius Pythius † ethis habendus diuinus est, qui aut summum imperatorem nescit aut ignorat a nobis cotidianis ei precibus supplicari? qui si pectorum secreta nesciret nec quid in intimis sensibus contineamus agnosceret, summum tamen inuocare nos deum et ab eo quod postulamus orare uel auribus potuit scire uel ipsius uocis sono qua utimur in precibus noscitare.
Is this, I ask, that bold and monstrous crime, on account of which the greatest heavenly beings aim at us the stings of their anger and indignation, on account of which you yourselves, when savage lust comes over you, strip us of our goods, drive us from the homes of our fathers, inflict capital punishments on us, torture, tear, and burn us, and finally throw us to wild beasts to be mangled by monsters? Whoever condemns this in us, or thinks it should be counted in any charge, should he be called by the name of a man, however much he may seem so to himself, or be believed to be a god, though he declare himself one through a thousand prophets? Does Jupiter of Dodona call us profane and impious, and will he himself be called a god and be counted in the order of deities, who either charges with impiety those who serve the supreme King, or is tormented that God's majesty and worship are set above his own? Is Apollo of Delos or of Claros, of Didyma, the Philesian, the Pythian ... to be held divine, who either does not know the supreme Ruler or is unaware that we pray to him in daily prayers? Even if he did not know the secrets of our hearts, nor recognize what we hold in our inmost thoughts, he could still know by his ears that we call upon the supreme God and ask from him what we request, or recognize it from the very sound of the voice we use in prayer.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
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Summary: Christians suffer confiscation, exile, torture, and death merely for worshiping the supreme God, which no true god could condemn.
- The text after 'Pythian' is corrupt ('ethis'); editors have proposed further cult titles of Apollo. Left as '...'. 'suaram' in the digital text is a misreading of 'suarum'.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): suaram → suarum.
Topics: Persecution, Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.26 (CSEL 4:17; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.27CSEL 4:17–18
nondum est locus ut explicemus, omnes isti qui nos damnant qui sint uel unde sint, quantum possint uel nouerint, cur ad Christi paveant mentionem, discipulos cur eius inimicos habeant et inuisos: quod tamen humanum pollicentibus sensum una pariter definitione figamus: nihil sumus aliud Christiani nisi magistro Christo summi regis ac principis ueneratores; nihil, si consideres, aliud inuenies in ista religione uersari. haec totius summa est actionis, hic propositus terminus diuinorum officiorum, hic finis, huic omnes ex more prosternimur, hunc conlatis precibus adoramus, ab hoc iusta et honesta et auditui eius condigna deposcimus, non quo ipse desideret supplices nos esse aut amet substerni tot milium uenerationem uidere: utilitas haec nostra est et commodi nostri rationem spectans. nam quia proni ad culpas et ad libidinis uarios adpetitus uitio sumus infirmitatis ingenitae, patitur se semper nostris cogitationibus concipi ut, dum illum oramus et mereri eius contendimus munera, accipiamus innocentiae uoluntatem et ab omni nos labe delictorum omnium amputatione purgemus.
It is not yet the place to explain who all those are who condemn us, where they come from, how much power or knowledge they have, why they tremble at the mention of Christ, and why they hold his disciples as enemies and hated. But for those who lay claim to human understanding let us fix this in one definition: we Christians are nothing else but worshipers of the supreme King and Ruler, under Christ as our teacher. If you consider it, you will find nothing else involved in this religion. This is the sum of our whole practice, this is the set goal of our divine services, this is the end: before him we all prostrate ourselves according to custom, him we adore in joint prayers, from him we ask things just and honorable and worthy of his hearing. Not that he himself needs us to be suppliants, or loves to see the veneration of so many thousands laid at his feet: this is for our benefit and has regard to our advantage. For since we are prone to faults and to the various cravings of desire through the defect of our inborn weakness, he allows himself always to be conceived in our thoughts, so that while we pray to him and strive to deserve his gifts, we may receive the will to innocence and cleanse ourselves from every stain by cutting away all our sins.
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Summary: Christians are simply worshipers of the supreme God under Christ as teacher, and their prayer benefits themselves, not God.
- 'ant' in the digital text is a misreading of 'aut' ('or').
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): ant amet → aut amet.
Topics: Prayer
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.27 (CSEL 4:17–18; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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1.28CSEL 4:18–19
quid dicitis o sacri, quid diuini interpretes iuris? meliorisne sunt causae, qui Grundulios adorant Lares, Aios Locutios, Limentinos, quam sumus nos omnes, qui deum colimus rerum patrem atque ab eo deposcimus rebus fessis languentibusque tutamina? et illi cati sapientes prudentissimi uobis uidentur nec reprehensionis ullius, qui Faunos, qui Fatuas ciuitatumque genios, qui Pauores reuerentur atque Bellonas: nos hebetes stolidi fatui obtunsi pronuntiamur et bruti, qui dedidimus nos deo, cuius nutu et arbitrio omne quod est constat et in sententiae suae perpetuitate defixum est? hanccine sententiam promitis, hanc legem constituitis, hanc promulgatis, ut honoribus adficiatur amplissimis quisquis uestros adorauerit seruulos: crucem mereatur extremam quisquis uobis ipsis dominis supplicarit? in ciuitatibus maximis atque in potentioribus populis sacra publice fiunt scortis meritoriis quondam atque in uolgarem libidinem prostitutis: nullus tumor indignationis in diis est. templa faelibus scarabeis et buculis sublimibus sunt elata fastigiis: silent inrisae numinum potestates nec liuore afficiuntur ullo, quod sibi comparatas animantium uilium conspiciunt sanctitates. nobis solis sunt inimici, nobis asperrimi dii hostes, quia patrem ueneramur illorum, per quem, si sunt, esse et habere substantiam sui numinis maiestatisque coeperunt, a quo ipsam deitatem, ut ita dicam, sortiti esse sentiuntur et in rerum numero recognoscuntur, cuius uoluntate et arbitrio et interire et solui nec solui possunt nec interire? nam si omnes concedimus unum esse principem solum, quem nulla res alia uetustate temporis antecedat, post illum necesse est cuncta et nata esse et prodita et in sui nominis prosiluisse naturam. quod si fixum et ratum est, erit nobis consequens confiteri et deos esse natiuos et a principe rerum fonte ortus sui originem ducere. qui si sunt natiui et geniti, et interitionibus utique periculisque uicini. at enim esse creduntur immortales perpetui et nullius umquam participes finis. ergo istud munus dei patris et donum est, ut infinita meruerint idem esse per saecula, cum sint labiles solubilesque natura.
What do you say, you sacred men, you interpreters of divine law? Have those a better case who adore the Grundulian Lares, the Aius Locutius, the Limentini, than all of us who worship God the Father of all things and ask of him protection in our weariness and weakness? And do those seem to you shrewd, wise, most prudent, and beyond all reproach, who revere Fauns and Fatuae and the geniuses of cities, Terrors and Bellonas, while we are pronounced dull, stupid, foolish, blunt, and brutish, who have given ourselves up to God, by whose nod and will all that exists stands and is fixed in the permanence of his decree? Is this the judgment you bring forth, the law you establish and promulgate, that whoever adores your little slaves should be granted the highest honors, while whoever prays to the masters themselves deserves the worst of crosses? In the greatest cities and among the more powerful peoples, rites are performed publicly in honor of women who were once hired prostitutes, prostituted to common lust: there is no swelling of indignation among the gods. Temples have been raised with lofty roofs to cats, beetles, and heifers: the powers of the deities, mocked, are silent, and are not stirred by any jealousy when they see the sanctity of vile animals set on a level with themselves. To us alone are the gods hostile, to us alone the bitterest enemies, because we worship their Father, through whom, if they exist, they began to be and to have the substance of their divinity and majesty; from whom, as they are aware, they received their very deity, so to speak, and are recognized in the number of things that exist; by whose will and pleasure they can both perish and be dissolved, and can neither be dissolved nor perish. For if we all agree that there is one sole First Principle, whom nothing else precedes in length of time, it is necessary that after him all things were born and brought forth and sprang into the nature of their own name. If this is fixed and settled, it will follow that we must confess that the gods too were born and draw the origin of their beginning from the primal source of things. And if they are born and begotten, they are surely also near to destruction and dangers. But they are believed to be immortal, everlasting, and never subject to any end. Therefore this is the gift and bounty of God the Father, that they have been granted to remain the same through endless ages, though they are by nature liable to fall and to be dissolved.
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Summary: Pagans honor minor deities, deified prostitutes, and sacred animals, yet persecute Christians for worshiping the Father from whom any gods would derive their being and immortality.
- Grundulian Lares, Aius Locutius, Limentinus (god of thresholds), Fauns, Fatuae, Pavor (Terror), and Bellona are Roman deities. The deified prostitutes are probably Acca Larentia and Flora. Arnobius argues hypothetically ('if they exist') that any gods would owe their being and immortality to the supreme God.
Cite (SBL): Arnobius, Nat. 1.28 (CSEL 4:18–19; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/arnobius-nationes/1-1/#p-1-28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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