Tractates on the Gospel of John 20.1–20.13

Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).

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Chapter 20

20.1PL 35:1555

Verba Domini nostri Jesu Christi, maxime quæ Joannes commemorat evangelista, qui non sine causa super pectus Domini discumbebat, nisi ut secreta altioris sapientiæ ejus ebiberet, et quod amando biberat, evangelizando ructaret, ita secreta sunt et profunda intelligentiæ, ut omnes turbent qui perverso sunt corde, et omnes exerceant qui recto sunt corde. Proinde animadvertat Charitas vestra ad hæc pauca quæ lecta sunt. Videamus si quo modo possu­ mus donante ct adjuvante ipso qui verba sua nobis voluit recitari, quae tune audita atque conscripta sunt, ut modo legerentur, quid sibi velit quod eum audistis modo dicere, Amen, amen dico vobis, non po­ test Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Pa­ trem facientem: quœcumque enim Pater facit, hœc ea­ dem et Filius facit similiter.

The words of our Lord Jesus Christ, especially those that John the evangelist records—who not without reason reclined on the Lord's breast, that he might drink in the secrets of his higher wisdom and pour out in preaching the gospel what he had drunk in by loving—are so secret and so deep in meaning that they trouble all who are perverse of heart and exercise all who are upright of heart. Therefore let your Charity attend to these few words that have been read. Let us see, if we can in any way, by the gift and help of him who willed his words to be read out to us—words heard then and written down so that they might be read now—what he means by what you have just heard him say: “Amen, amen, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these same things the Son also does likewise.”

John 13:23 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John's words about Christ, drawn from the Lord's breast, trouble the perverse and exercise the upright; Augustine returns to John 5:19.

  • The beloved disciple reclining on Jesus' breast is John 13:23–25.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): maxime qu.c → maxime quæ; non siue causa → non sine causa; suntcorde, etomnes exerccant → sunt corde, et omnes exerceant; Vidcamus → Videamus.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.1 (PL 35:1555; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.2PL 35:1555–1557

Unde autem natus sit sermo iste, commemorandi estis propter superiora lectionis, ubi curaverat Domi­ nus quemdam inter illos qui in quinque porticibus piscinæ illius Salomonis jacebant, cui dixerat, Tolle grabatum tuum, et vade in domum tuam. Hoc autem. fecerat sabbatis; unde perturbati Judæi calumnia­ bantur, quasi eversorem et prævaricatorem Legis. Tunc eis dixerat, Pater meus usque modo operatur, et ego operor. Illi enim carnaliter acci­ pientes sabbati observationem, putabant Deum post laborem fabricati mundi usque ad hunc diem quasi dormire; et propterea sanctificasse illum diem, ex quo coepit velut a laboribus rcquiescere. Est autem. sacramentum sabbati antiquis patribus nostris præ­ ceptum, quod nos Christiani spiri­ tualiter observamus, ut ab omni servili opere, id est ab omni peccato (quia Dominus dicit, Omnis qui facit peccatum, servus est peccati, abstinea­ mus nos, et habeamus quietem in corde nostro, id est tranquillitatem spiritualem. Et quamvis in hoc sæculo id conemur, ad eam tamen requiem perfectam non perveniemus, nisi cum de hac vita exierimus. Sed ideo dictum cst Deum requievisse, quia jam creaturam nullam condebat postquam perfecta sunt omnia. Quietem vero propterea appellavit Scriptura, ut nos admoneret post bona opera requieturos. Sic enim scriptum habemus in Genesi, Et fecit Deus omnia bona valde, et requievit Deus die septimo: ut tu homo cum attendis ipsum Deum post bona opera requievisse, non tibi speres requiem, nisi cum bona fueris operatus et quemadmodum Deus posteaquam fecit hominem ad imaginem et si­ mililudinem suam sexto die, et in illo perfecit omnia opera sua bona valde, requievit septimo die; sic et tibi requiem non speres, nisi cum redieris ad simi­ litudinem in qua factus es, quam peccando perdi­ disti. Non enim Deus laborasse dicendus est, qui dixit, et facta sunt. Quis est qui post tantam operis facilitatem quasi post laborem velit requiescere? Si jussit et aliquis ei restitit, si jussit et non est factum, et ut fieret laboravit; merito dicatur post laborem requievisse: cum vero et in ipso libro Geneseos legamus, Dixit Deus, Fiat lux; et facta est lux: dixit Deus, Fiat firmamentum; et factum est firmamentum; et cætera in verbo ejus continuo facta: cui attestatur et Psalmus dicens, Ipse dixit, et facta sunt; ipse mandavit, et creata sunt: quomodo post mundum fa­ ctum requiem quasi ut cessaret requirebat, qui in jubendo nunquam laboraverat? Ergo illa mystica sunt, et propterea ita posita, ut nobis requiem spe­ remus post hanc vitam, sed si bona opera fecerimus. Ideo Dominus retundens impudentiam et errorem Ju­ dæorum, et ostendens eos non recte sapere de Deo, ait illis scandalizatis quod sabbato operabatur homi­ num sanitatem, Pater meus usque modo operatur, et ego operor: nolite ergo hoc putare quia sabbato ita re­ quievit Pater meus, ut ex illo non operetur; sed sicut ipse nunc operatur, operor et ego. Sed sicut Pater sine labore, sic et Filius sine labore. Dixit Deus, et facta sunt: dixit Christus languenti, Tolle gra­ batum tuum, et vade in domum tuam, et factum est.

Now you must be reminded where this discourse arose, because of the earlier part of the reading, where the Lord had cured a certain man among those who lay in the five porches of that pool of Solomon, to whom he had said, “Take up your bed and go to your house.” But he had done this on the sabbath; and so the Jews, being disturbed, falsely accused him as a destroyer and transgressor of the law. Then he had said to them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.” For they, taking the observance of the sabbath carnally, thought that God, after the labor of making the world, was as it were sleeping until this day, and had therefore sanctified the day from which he began to rest, as it were, from his labors. Now the sacrament of the sabbath was commanded to our ancient fathers, and we Christians observe it spiritually, by abstaining from all servile work, that is, from all sin (for the Lord says, “Everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin”), and by having rest in our heart, that is, spiritual tranquillity. And although we strive for this in this world, we shall not reach that perfect rest until we have departed from this life. But God is said to have rested because he no longer made any creature after all things had been completed. And Scripture called it rest in order to remind us that we shall rest after good works. For so we have it written in Genesis: “And God made all things very good, and God rested on the seventh day”: so that you, man, when you consider that God himself rested after good works, should not hope for rest for yourself until you have done good works; and just as God, after he made man in his own image and likeness on the sixth day and on it completed all his very good works, rested on the seventh day, so you too should not hope for rest until you have returned to the likeness in which you were made, which you lost by sinning. For God should not be said to have labored, who “spoke, and they were made.” Who is there that, after such ease of working, would want to rest as if after labor? If he commanded and someone resisted him, if he commanded and it was not done, and he labored to get it done, then he might rightly be said to have rested after labor. But since we read in that same book of Genesis, “God said, Let there be light; and there was light. God said, Let there be a firmament; and the firmament was made,” and the rest made at once by his word; to which the psalm also bears witness, saying, “He spoke, and they were made; he commanded, and they were created”: how could he, who never labored in commanding, have sought rest after the world was made, as if to cease from work? Those things, then, are mystical, and set down in this way so that we may hope for rest after this life, but only if we have done good works. Therefore the Lord, beating back the impudence and error of the Jews and showing that they did not think rightly about God, said to those who were scandalized because he was working the healing of men on the sabbath, “My Father is working until now, and I am working”: do not, then, think that my Father so rested on the sabbath that from then on he does not work; but as he is working now, so I also work. But as the Father works without labor, so too the Son works without labor. God spoke, and they were made; Christ said to the sick man, “Take up your bed and go to your house,” and it was done.

John 5:2 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:16 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:17 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:34 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:31 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:26 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 148:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:9 (32:9 LXX) (quotation, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Christ healed on the sabbath because God never labors or ceases from work; Christians keep the sabbath spiritually by resting from sin, in hope of rest after good works.

  • The healing at the pool is John 5:2–16. Augustine calls the pool “of Solomon” (Solomon's porch is John 10:23). John 8:34, Gen 1:3, 6, 31, 2:2, and Ps 33:9 / 148:5 (32:9 / 148:5 LXX) are quoted. His statement on the Jews' carnal reading of the sabbath is given as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): Unde antem natus sit sermo iste, commemorandi cstis propter superiora Icclionis → Unde autem natus sit sermo iste, commemorandi estis propter superiora lectionis; piscium illius → piscinæ illius; domum ttiam → domum tuam; sabbatis * → sabbatis;; Tunc cis → Tunc eis; IlIi enim → Illi enim; observationcm, putabant Dcum → observationem, putabant Deum; hunc dien → hunc diem; servus eat peccati → servus est peccati; ct habeamus quictem → et habeamus quietem; in hoc sacculo id conemur, ad cam tamen requiem perfectam non pervenicmus → in hoc sæculo id conemur, ad eam tamen requiem perfectam non perveniemus; de hac viia → de hac vita; Quictem vero → Quietem vero; spercs → speres; postcaquam → posteaquam; imagincm → imaginem; bona valdcv → bona valde,; sic et libi → sic et tibi; qui dixit, ci facta → qui dixit, et facta; est tactum, et ut fit'rel → est factum, et ut fieret; facta eat lux → facta est lux; lpse dixit → Ipse dixit; spc­ remus → spe­ remus; Idco Dominus → Ideo Dominus; scandalizatis I quod → scandalizatis quod; ex iNo → ex illo; Cbristus → Christus.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.2 (PL 35:1555–1557; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.3PL 35:1557

Catholica autem fides habet, quod Patris et Filii opera non sunt separabilia. Hoc est quod volo, si pos­ sum, loqui Charitati vestrae: sed secundum illa verba Domini, Qui potest capere capiat. Qui autem capere non potest, non mihi adscribat, sed tarditati suæ; et convertat se ad illum qui cor aperit, ut infundat quod donat. Postremo et si quis­ quam propterea non intellexerit, quia non a me sic dictum est ut dici debuit, ignoscat humanæ fragilitati, et supplicet divinæ bonitati. Habemus enim intus magistrum Christum. Quidquid per aurem vestram, et os meum capere non potueritis, in corde vestro ad eum convertimini, qui et me docet quod loquor, ct vobis quemadmodum dignatur distribuit. Qui novit quid det, et cui det, aderit petenti, et aperiet pulsanti. Et si forte non dederit, nemo se dicat desertum. Forte enim aliquid dare differt, sed neminem esurientem relinquit. Si enim non dat ad horam, exercet quæren­ tem, non contemnit petentem. Videte ergo et atten­ dite quid velim dicere, etsi forte non possim. Catholica fides hoc habet, firmata Spiritu Dei in sanctis ejus, contra omnem hæreticam pravitatem, quia Patris ct Filii opera inseparabilia sunt. Quid est quod dixi? Quomodo ipse Pater et Filius inseparabiles sunt, sic et opera Patris ct Filii inseparabilia sunt. Quomodo Pater et Filius inseparabiles sunt? Quia ipse dixit, Ego et Pater unum sumus. Quia Pater et Filius non sunt duo dii, sed unus Deus, Verbum et cujus est Verbum, unus et unicus, Deus unus Pater et Filius charitate complexi, unusque charitatis Spiritus eorum est, ut fiat Trinitas Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus. Non ergo tantum Patris et Filii, sed et Spiritus sancti, sicut æqualitas et inseparabilitas per­ sonarum, ita etiam opera inseparabilia sunt. Adhuc planius dicam quid sit, opera inseparabilia sunt. Non dicit catholica fides quia fecit Deus Pater aliquid, et fecit Filius aliquid aliud: sed quod fecit Pater, hoc et Filius fecit, hoc et Spiritus sanctus fecit. Per Verbum enim facta sunt omnia: quando dixit et facta sunt, per Ver­ bum facta sunt, per Christum facta sunt. In principio enim erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum: omnia per ipsum facta sunt. Si omnia per ipsum facta sunt; dixit Deus, Fiat lux; et facta est lux: in Verbo fecit, per Verbum fecit.

Now the Catholic faith holds that the works of the Father and of the Son are not separable. This is what I wish, if I can, to say to your Charity; but according to those words of the Lord, “He who can receive it, let him receive it.” But he who cannot receive it, let him not ascribe this to me, but to his own slowness; and let him turn to him who opens the heart, that he may pour in what he gives. Lastly, if anyone does not understand because it was not said by me as it should have been said, let him pardon human frailty and make supplication to divine goodness. For we have Christ as our teacher within. Whatever you cannot grasp through your ear and my mouth, turn in your heart to him who both teaches me what I say and distributes to you as he deigns. He who knows what to give and to whom to give it will be present to the one who asks and will open to the one who knocks. And if perhaps he does not give, let no one call himself forsaken. For perhaps he delays giving something, but he leaves no one hungry. For if he does not give at the moment, he is exercising the seeker, not despising the asker. Look, then, and attend to what I wish to say, even if perhaps I cannot. The Catholic faith, confirmed by the Spirit of God in his saints against all heretical perversity, holds this: that the works of the Father and of the Son are inseparable. What is it that I have said? Just as the Father and the Son themselves are inseparable, so also the works of the Father and of the Son are inseparable. How are the Father and the Son inseparable? Because he himself said, “I and the Father are one.” Because the Father and the Son are not two gods but one God, the Word and he whose Word he is, one and only, one God, Father and Son embraced in love; and the Spirit of love of the two of them is one, so that there is the Trinity, Father and Son and Holy Spirit. Therefore not only of the Father and the Son, but also of the Holy Spirit: as there is equality and inseparability of persons, so also the works are inseparable. Let me say still more plainly what “the works are inseparable” means. The Catholic faith does not say that God the Father made something and the Son made something else; but what the Father made, this the Son also made, this the Holy Spirit also made. For all things were made through the Word: when he spoke and they were made, they were made through the Word, they were made through Christ. For “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; all things were made through him.” If all things were made through him, then when God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light, he made it in the Word, he made it through the Word.

Matt 19:12 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:7 (allusion, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:3 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Catholic faith holds that, as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are inseparable, so their works are inseparable: what the Father makes, the Son and Spirit also make.

  • Matt 19:12, John 10:30, John 1:1–3, and Gen 1:3 are quoted; the asking and knocking recall Matt 7:7–8. The Spirit as the love of Father and Son is Augustine's own formulation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Catboliea → Catholica; potucritis → potueritis; Qui Novit → Qui novit; Videte ergo ei atten → Videte ergo et atten; hoc babet, firmata Spiritu Dci → hoc habet, firmata Spiritu Dei; estVerbum, unusct Unicus → est Verbum, unus et unicus; unusquc → unusque; cHam → etiam; Adhue → Adhuc; Verbum eni.... → Verbum enim; In principis → In principio; Veibum → Verbum; omnia pcr ipsum → omnia per ipsum.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.3 (PL 35:1557; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.4PL 35:1557–1559

Ecce ergo nunc audivimus Evangelium, cum responderet stomachantibus Judaeis, quia non solum solvebat sabbatum, sed etiam patrem suum dicebat Deum, œqualem se faciens Deo: sic enim scriptum est in superiori capitulo. Cum ergo tali eorum erranti indignationi Dei Filius et Veritas responderet, ait, Amen, amen dico vobis, non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Tan­ quam diceret, Quid scandalizati estis, quia Patrem meum dixi Deum, et quia aequalem me facio Deo? Ita sum aequalis, ut ille me genuerit: ita sum aequalis, ut non ille a me, sed ego ab illo sim. Hoc enim intelli­ gitur in his verbis, Non potest Filius a se facere quid­ quam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Hoc est, quidquid Filius habet ut faciat, a Patre habet ut faciat. Quare habet a Patre ut faciat? Quia a Patre habet ut Filius sit. Quare a Patre habet ut Filius sit? Quia a Patre habet ut possit, quia a Patre habet ut sit. Filio enim hoc est esse quod posse. Homini non ita est. Ex comparatione humanae infirmitatis, longe infra jacentis, utcumque corda sustollite; et ne forte aliquis nostrum attingat secretum, et quasi coruscatione magnæ lucis horrescens, sapiat aliquid, ne insipiens remaneat: non tamen se totum sapere putet, ne superbiat, et quod sapuit amittat. Homo aliud est quod est, aliud quod potest. Aliquando enim et est homo, et non potest quod vult; aliquando autem sic est homo, ut possit quod vult: itaque aliud est esse ipsius, aliud posse ipsius. Si enim hoc esset esse ipsius, quod est posse ipsius; cum vellet posset. Deus autem cui non est alia substantia ut sit, et alia potestas ut possit, sed con­ substantiale illi est quidquid ejus est, et quidquid est, quia Deus est, non alio modo est, et alio modo potest; sed esse et posse simul habet, quia velle et facere simul habet. Quia ergo potentia Filii de Patre est, ideo et substantia Filii de Patre est; et quia substantia Filii de Patre, ideo potentia Filii de Patre est. Non alia potentia est in Filio, et alia substantia: sed ipsa est potentia quæ et substantia; substantia ut sit, potentia ut possit. Ergo quia Filius de Patre est, ideo dixit, Filius non potest a se facere quidquam. Quia non est Filius a se, ideo non potest a se.

See, then, we have now heard the Gospel, where he answered the Jews who were indignant because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father, making himself equal to God; for so it is written in the preceding passage. When, then, the Son of God and the Truth answered their mistaken indignation, he said, “Amen, amen, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.” As though he said: Why are you scandalized because I called God my Father and because I make myself equal to God? I am equal in such a way that he begot me; I am equal in such a way that he is not from me, but I am from him. For this is what is understood in these words: “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.” That is, whatever the Son has by way of doing, he has from the Father that he does it. Why does he have from the Father that he does it? Because he has from the Father that he is the Son. Why does he have from the Father that he is the Son? Because he has from the Father that he is able, since he has from the Father that he is. For to the Son, to be is the same as to be able. It is not so with man. From the comparison with human weakness, which lies far below, lift up your hearts as best you can; and if perhaps one of us reaches the secret and, as if shuddering at the flash of a great light, grasps something, so as not to remain without understanding, let him nonetheless not think that he grasps the whole, lest he grow proud and lose what he has grasped. In man, what he is is one thing, what he is able to do is another. For sometimes a man exists and cannot do what he wills; but sometimes a man exists in such a way that he can do what he wills; so his being is one thing, his being able another. For if his being were the same as his being able, he would be able whenever he willed. But God, who does not have one substance by which he is and another power by which he is able, but to whom whatever is his, and whatever he is, is consubstantial, because he is God, does not exist in one way and is able in another; but he has being and being able together, because he has willing and doing together. Since, then, the power of the Son is from the Father, therefore the substance of the Son is also from the Father; and since the substance of the Son is from the Father, therefore the power of the Son is from the Father. There is not one power in the Son and another substance; but the power is the very same as the substance: substance that he may be, power that he may be able. So because the Son is from the Father, he said, “The Son can do nothing of himself.” Because the Son is not from himself, he is therefore not able from himself.

John 5:18 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: “The Son can do nothing of himself” means that the Son, whose being and power are one, has both from the Father who begot him equal.

  • John 5:18–19 is drawn on. A stray “I” after “quia Deus est” in the digital text is ignored in translation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): stomacbantibus → stomachantibus; sic cmm → sic enim; Pairem meum → Patrem meum; Filius babet → Filius habet; nun tamen se totum → non tamen se totum; iNi est → illi est; quia Deus est I, → quia Deus est,; alio mode potest → alio modo potest; simul babet → simul habet; de Patre cst → de Patre est; de l'at re → de Patre; iJeo dixit → ideo dixit; non polcs: a se → non potest a se.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.4 (PL 35:1557–1559; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.5PL 35:1559

Videtur enim quasi minorem se fecisse, cum dixit, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Hic erigit cervicem hæretica vanitas, eorum scilicet qui dicunt Filium minorem esse quam Patrem, minoris potestatis, majestatis, possibilitatis, non intelligentes mysterium verborum Christi. Attendat autem Charitas vestra, et videte quemadmodum in carnali suo intellectu modo tur­ bentur in ipsis verbis Christi. Hoc autem paulo ante prælocutus sum, quia omnia perversa corda perturbat, sicut pia corda exercet Verbum Dei, maxime quod per Joannem evangelistam dicitur. Alta enim per illum dicuntur, non qualiacumque, non quæ facile intelli­ ganlur, Ecce jam hæreticus si forte audit verba ista, erigit se, et dicit nobis: Ecce minor est Filius quam Pater, ecce audi verba Filii, qui dicit, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Exspecta, quemadmodum scriptum est, Esto mansuetus ad audiendum verbum, ut intelligas. Puta enim me conturbatum esse his verbis, quoniam dico æqualem potestatem majesta­ temque esse Patris et Filii, cum audivi, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Turbatus his verbis quaero abs te, qui jam tibi videris intellexisse: Novimus in Evangelio Filium ambulasse super mare; ubi Patrem vidit ambulasse super mare? Hic jam ille turbatur. Pone ergo quod intellexeras, ct simul quæramus, Quid ergo facimus? Verba Domini audivimus, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Ambulavit ipse super mare, Pater nunquam ambulavit super mare. Certe non facit Filius quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem.

For he seems to have made himself, as it were, lesser when he said, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.” Here heretical vanity lifts its neck—that of those who say that the Son is less than the Father, of lesser power, majesty, and capacity—not understanding the mystery of Christ's words. But let your Charity attend, and see how in their carnal understanding they are now thrown into confusion by these very words of Christ. This is what I said a little earlier: that the Word of God troubles all perverse hearts, just as it exercises devout hearts, especially what is said through John the evangelist. For deep things are said through him, not ordinary things, not things easily understood. See now, the heretic, if perhaps he hears these words, draws himself up and says to us, “See, the Son is less than the Father; listen to the words of the Son, who says, ‘The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.’” Wait, as it is written: “Be gentle in hearing the word, that you may understand.” For suppose that I am disturbed by these words, since I say that the power and majesty of the Father and the Son are equal, when I hear, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.” Disturbed by these words, I ask you, who think you have already understood: We know from the Gospel that the Son walked on the sea; where did he see the Father walk on the sea? Here now he is disturbed. Set aside, then, what you had understood, and let us inquire together. What, then, do we do? We have heard the words of the Lord: “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.” He himself walked on the sea; the Father never walked on the sea. Yet certainly the Son does nothing but what he sees the Father doing.

John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 14:25 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Against heretics who infer that the Son is lesser, Augustine asks when the Son saw the Father walk on the sea.

  • Sir 5:11 (Old Latin “Be gentle in hearing the word, that you may understand”) is quoted. Christ walking on the sea: Matt 14:25. The heretics meant are those who rank the Son below the Father (Arians).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Videtur cnim → Videtur enim; veslra → vestra; ill iNsis,.cibis Christi. noc autem paulo aute → in ipsis verbis Christi. Hoc autem paulo ante; qualiacumquc → qualiacumque; dicit nubis → dicit nobis; audi vei ba Filii, qui dicit, Non potest i ilius → audi verba Filii, qui dicit, Non potest Filius; Putrem → Patrem; aqualem potestatem majesta­. temque → æqualem potestatem majesta­ temque; Turbatus bis → Turbatus his.

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 5:11 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.5 (PL 35:1559; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.6PL 35:1559

Redi ergo mecum ad id quod dicebam, ne forte sic intelligendum sit, ut de quæstione ambo exeamus. Nam ego secundum fidem catholicam video quomodo exeam sine offensione, sine scandalo: tu autem cir­ cumclusus, quæris qua exeas. Qua intraveras vide. Forte non intellexisti et hoc quod dixi, Qua intra­ vcras vide: ipsum audi dicentem, Ego sum janua. Non sine causa ergo quæris qua exeas, et non invenis, nisi quia non per januam intrasti, sed per maceriam cecidisti. Ergo quemadmodum potes, a ruina tua collige te, et intra per januam, ut sine offen­ sione intres, et sine errore exeas. Per Christum veni, nec ex corde tuo afferas quod dicas; sed quod ille ostendit, hoc loquere. Ecce fides catholica quemad­ modum cxit de ista propositione. Ambulavit Filius super mare, pedes carnis fluctibus imposuit; caro ambulabat, et divinitas gubernabat: quando ergo caro ambulabat et divinitas gubernabat, Pater absens erat? Si absens erat, quomodo ipse Filius dicit, Pater autem in me manens, ipse facit opera sua? Si ergo Pater in Filio manens, ipse facit opera sua; ambulatio illa carnis supra mare, a Patre fiebat, per Filium fiebat. Ergo illa ambulatio opus est Patris et Filii inseparabile. Utrumque ibi operantem video: nec Pater Filium deseruit, nec Filius a Patre discessit. Ita quidquid facit Filius, non facit sine Patre; quia quidquid facit Pater, non facit sine Filio.

Come back with me, then, to what I was saying, in case it should be understood in such a way that we both get out of the question. For I, according to the Catholic faith, see how I may get out without stumbling, without offense; but you, shut in on all sides, are looking for a way out. See where you came in. Perhaps you did not understand this either, when I said, “See where you came in.” Hear him saying, “I am the door.” Not without reason, then, are you looking for a way out and not finding one, except that you did not come in through the door, but fell in over the wall. So, as best you can, pick yourself up from your fall and enter through the door, that you may go in without stumbling and go out without error. Come through Christ; do not bring out of your own heart what you are to say, but speak what he shows. See how the Catholic faith gets out of this proposition. The Son walked on the sea; he set feet of flesh on the waves; the flesh walked, and the divinity governed. When, then, the flesh walked and the divinity governed, was the Father absent? If he was absent, how does the Son himself say, “But the Father who abides in me, he does his works”? If, then, the Father, abiding in the Son, does his works, that walking of the flesh on the sea was done by the Father, done through the Son. So that walking is an inseparable work of the Father and the Son. I see both working there: the Father did not desert the Son, nor did the Son depart from the Father. So whatever the Son does, he does not do without the Father, because whatever the Father does, he does not do without the Son.

John 10:9 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 14:25 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Christ's walking on the sea, in which the flesh walked and the divinity governed, was an inseparable work of the Father abiding in the Son.

  • John 10:9 and John 14:10 are quoted; “fell in over the wall” recalls John 10:1.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; words run together in the digital text): cxeam → exeam; quæris (jua exeas → quæris qua exeas; Nun sinc causa ergo quæris qua exeas, ct non iuvenis → Non sine causa ergo quæris qua exeas, et non invenis; pcr maccriam → per maceriam; collige Le → collige te; ct sine errore cxcas → et sine errore exeas; ex cordc tuo aifcras quod dicas; sed quod illc osieudit → ex corde tuo afferas quod dicas; sed quod ille ostendit; divinitasgubernabat → divinitas gubernabat; a Patre luebat → a Patre fiebat; descruit → deseruit; uon facit sine Patre → non facit sine Patre.

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.6 (PL 35:1559; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.7PL 35:1559

Exitum est hinc. Videte quia recte nos dicimus inseparabilia esse opera Patris et Filii et Spiritus sancti. Nam quomodo tu intelligis, ecce fecit Deus lucem, et vidit Filius Patrem facientem lucem, secundum carna­ lem intellectum tuum, qui ideo vis minorem intelligere, quia dixit, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem. Fecit Deus Pater lucem; quam lucem aliam fecit Filius? Fecit Deus Pater firma­ mentum, cœlum inter aquas et aquas, vidit eum Filius secundum intelligentiam tuam tardam et grossam: quia vidit Filius Patrem facientem firmamentum, et dixit, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem, da mihi alterum firmamentum. An tu amisisti fundamentum? Superædificati autem supra fun­ damentum Apostolorum et Prophetarum, ipso summo lapide angulari existente Christo Jesu, pacantur in Chri­ sto; nec contendunt et errant in hæ­ rcsi. Intelligimus ergo lucem factam a Deo Patre, sed per Filium; firmamentum factum a Deo Patre, sed per Filium. Omnia enim per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil. Excute intelligentiam tuam; nec intelli­ gentiam vocandam, sed plane stultitiam. Deus Pater fecit mundum: quem fecit Filius alterum mundum? da mihi mundum Filii. Iste in quo sumus, cujus est? dic nobis, a quo factus est? Si dixeris, A Filio; non a Patre; errasti a Patre: si dixeris, A Patre, non a Filio; re­ spondet tibi Evangelium, Et mundus per eum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit, Agnosce ergo eum per quem factus est mundus, et noli esse inter illos qui eum qui fecit mundum non cognoverunt.

We have got out of this. See that we rightly say that the works of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are inseparable. For take it as you understand it: see, God made light, and the Son saw the Father making light—according to your carnal understanding, you who want to understand the Son as lesser because he said, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing.” God the Father made light; what other light did the Son make? God the Father made the firmament, the heaven between waters and waters; the Son saw him, according to your slow and gross understanding. Since the Son saw the Father making the firmament, and said, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing,” give me the other firmament. Or have you lost the foundation? But those who are “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the chief cornerstone,” are at peace in Christ; they do not quarrel and wander in heresy. We understand, then, that light was made by God the Father, but through the Son; the firmament made by God the Father, but through the Son. “For all things were made through him, and without him nothing was made.” Shake out your understanding—which should not be called understanding, but plainly folly. God the Father made the world: what other world did the Son make? Give me the Son's world. This world in which we are—whose is it? Tell us, by whom was it made? If you say, “By the Son, not by the Father,” you have strayed from the Father; if you say, “By the Father, not by the Son,” the Gospel answers you, “And the world was made through him, and the world did not know him.” Acknowledge, then, him through whom the world was made, and do not be among those who did not know the one who made the world.

John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 1:6 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 2:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:10 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: There is no second light, firmament, or world made by the Son; the one world was made by the Father through the Son.

  • Gen 1:3, 6–8, Eph 2:20, John 1:3, and John 1:10 are drawn on. Augustine plays on firmamentum and fundamentum.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; words run together in the digital text): Patrcui → Patrem; lucem alian fecit → lucem aliam fecit; aquas ct aquas → aquas et aquas; luam tardam ct grossam → tuam tardam et grossam; Non pjtest → Non potest; a Dco Patre → a Deo Patre; enuM → enim; stultitiam.Deus Paterfecit → stultitiam. Deus Pater fecit; A Patrc, non → A Patre, non; mundus,et noli esse inter illos qui cum → mundus, et noli esse inter illos qui eum.

Topics: Trinity, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.7 (PL 35:1559; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.8PL 35:1559–1561

Inseparabilia sunt ergo opera Patris et Filii. Sed hoc est, Non potest Filius a se quidquam facere, quod esset si diceret, Non est Filius a se. Etenim si Filius est, natus est: si natus est, ab illo est de quo natus est. Sed tamen aequalem sibi genuit. Non enim defuit ali­ quid generanti, aut tempus quæsivit ut generaret, qui genuit coæternum; aut matrem quæsivit ut generaret, qui de se protulit Verbum; aut Pater generans aetate præcesserat Filium,ut minorem Filium generaret. Et forte dicit aliquis quia post multa sæcula in senecta sua Deus suscepit Filium. Sicut Pater sine senectute, sic et Filius sine incremento: nec ille senuit nec ille crevit; sed aequalis æqualem genuit, æternus æternum. Quomodo, inquit aliquis, æternus æternum? Quomodo flamma temporalis generat lucem temporalem. Coæva est au­ tem flamma generans luci quam generat, nec præcedit tempore flamma generans lucem generatam; sed ex quo incipit flamma, ex illo incipit lux, Da mihi flam­ mam sine luce, et do tibi Deum Patrem sine Filio, Hoc est ergo, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem; quia videre Filii, hoc est natum esse de Patre. Non alia visio ejus et alia substantia ejus: nec alia potentia ejus, alia substantia ejus. Totum quod est, de Patre est; totum quod potest, de Patre est: quoniam quod potest et est, hoc unum est; et de Patre totum est.

The works of the Father and the Son, then, are inseparable. But “The Son can do nothing of himself” means what it would mean if he said, “The Son is not from himself.” For if he is the Son, he was born; if he was born, he is from him of whom he was born. Yet he begot him equal to himself. For nothing was lacking to the one who begot: he did not seek time in order to beget, who begot one coeternal; nor did he seek a mother in order to beget, who brought forth the Word from himself; nor had the Father, in begetting, preceded the Son in age, so as to beget a younger Son. And perhaps someone says that after many ages God received a Son in his old age. As the Father is without old age, so the Son is without growth: neither did the one grow old nor did the other grow up; but equal begot equal, eternal begot eternal. How, someone says, eternal begot eternal? As a temporal flame generates a temporal light. For the generating flame is coeval with the light that it generates, and the generating flame does not precede the generated light in time; but from the moment the flame begins, from that moment the light begins. Give me a flame without light, and I give you God the Father without the Son. This, then, is the meaning of “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing”: that for the Son to see is to be born of the Father. His seeing is not one thing and his substance another; nor is his power one thing and his substance another. All that he is, is from the Father; all that he is able to do, is from the Father; for what he is able to do and what he is are one, and wholly from the Father.

John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: “Can do nothing of himself” means the Son is from the Father, begotten equal and coeternal, as light is coeval with the flame.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): Inseparabilia suut → Inseparabilia sunt; Non cst Filius → Non est Filius; aut l'ater generans → aut Pater generans; Filium gcneraret → Filium generaret; nee ille senuit → nec ille senuit; Coxva est au­ tem llamma → Coæva est au­ tem flamma; sine lucc → sine luce; Huc est ergo → Hoc est ergo; nee alia potentia → nec alia potentia; lotum quod potest → totum quod potest; quod polest et eat, hoc unum est; et de Patre totum ex. → quod potest et est, hoc unum est; et de Patre totum est..

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.8 (PL 35:1559–1561; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.9PL 35:1561

Sequitur et ipse in verbis suis, et male intelli­ gentes conturbat, ut ad rectum intellectum revocet errantes. Cum dixisset, Non potest Filius a se facere quidquam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem: ne forte carnalis subreperet intellectus, et averteret mentem, et faceret sibi homo quasi duos fabros, unum magi­ strum, alterum discipulum quasi attendentem ad magi­ strum, verbi gratia, facientem arcam; ut quomodo ille fecit arcam, faciat et iste alteram arcam secundum visionem quam inspexit in magistro operante: sed ne tale aliquid sibi duplicaret in illa simplici divinitate intellectus carnalis, secutus ait, Quæcumque enim Pater facit, hæc eadem et Filius facit similiter. Non facit Pater alia, et alia Filius similia, sed eadem similiter. Non enim ait, Quæcumque facit Pater, facit et Filius alia similia: sed, Quæcumque, inquit, Pater facit, hæc eadem et Filius facit similiter. Quæ ille, hæc et ipse: mundum Pater, mundum Filius, mundum Spi­ ritus sanctus. Si tres dii, tres mundi: si unus Deus Pater et Filius et Spiritus sanctus, unus mundus factus est a Patre per Filium in Spiritu sancto. Hæc ergo facit Filius, quæ facit et Pater, et non dissimiliter facit: et hæc facit, et similiter facit.

He himself goes on in his words, and unsettles those who understand wrongly, in order to call the erring back to a right understanding. After he had said, “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father doing,” in case a carnal understanding should creep in and turn the mind aside, and a man should picture for himself two craftsmen, as it were, one a master, the other a pupil watching the master make, for example, a chest, so that as the master made his chest, the pupil might make another chest according to what he had seen in the master at work—so that the carnal understanding should not double any such thing in that simple divinity—he went on to say, “For whatever the Father does, these same things the Son also does likewise.” The Father does not do some things and the Son other similar things, but the same things likewise. For he did not say, “Whatever the Father does, the Son also does other similar things,” but, “Whatever the Father does,” he says, “these same things the Son also does likewise.” What he does, these the Son does too: the Father made the world, the Son made the world, the Holy Spirit made the world. If there are three gods, there are three worlds; if the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are one God, one world was made by the Father through the Son in the Holy Spirit. So the Son does those things that the Father also does, and does not do them unlike: he both does these things and does them likewise.

John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: “These same things likewise” excludes the picture of a master and pupil making two chests: Father, Son, and Spirit made one world.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; words run together in the digital text): faccret sibi bomo → faceret sibi homo; utquomodo → ut quomodo; diviniiale → divinitate; sed cadem similiter → sed eadem similiter; tacit et Filius → facit et Filius; QUa'cumque → Quæcumque; Qux ille → Quæ ille; Si Ires dii → Si tres dii; Pateret Filius → Pater et Filius; Hec ergo facit Filius, quæ facil → Hæc ergo facit Filius, quæ facit.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.9 (PL 35:1561; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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20.10PL 35:1561

Jam dixerat, hæc facit; quare addidit, similiter facit? Ne alius pravus intellectus vel error in animo nasceretur. Vides enim hominis opus; animus est in homine et corpus: animus imperat corpori, sed mul­ tum interest inter corpus et animum: corpus visibile est, animus invisibilis; inter potentiam virtutemque animi, et cujusvis licet coelestis corporis multum in­ terest. Imperat tamen animus corpori suo, et facit cor­ pus: et quod videtur animus facere, hoc facit et cor­ pus. Videtur ergo corpus hoc idem facere quod ani­ mus, sed non similiter. Quomodo hoc idem facit, sed non similiter? Facit animus verbum apud se, jubet lin­ guæ, et profert verbum quod fecit animus: fecit animus, fecit et lingua; fecit dominus corporis, fecit et servus: sed ut faceret servus, a domino accepit quod faceret, et jubente domino fecit. Hoc idem ab utroque factum est: sed numquid similiter? Quomodo non similiter, ait ali­ quis? Ecce verbum quod fecit animus meus, manet in me: quod fecit lingua mea, percusso aere transiit, et non est. Cum dixeris verbum in animo tuo, et so­ nuerit per linguam tuam, redi ad animum tuum, et vide quia ibi est verbum quod fecisti. Numquid sicut mansit in animo tuo, mansit in lingua tua? Quod so­ nuit per linguam tuam, fecit lingua sonans, fecit ani­ mus cogitans: sed quod sonuit lingua, transiit; quod cogitavit animus, permanet. Hoc ergo fecit corpus, quod fecit animus; sed non similiter. Fecit enim ani­ mus quod teneat animus; fecit autem lingua quod so­ nat, et per aerem aurem verberat. Numquid sequeris syllabas, et facis ut maneant? Non ergo sic Pater et Filius; sed hæc eadem facit, et similiter facit. Si fe­ cit Deus coelum quod manet, hoc fecit Filius caelum quod manet. Si fecit Deus Pater hominem qui mori­ tur, eumdem Filius hominem fecit qui moritur. Quæcumque fecit Pater stantia, hæc fecit et Fi­ lius stantia; quia similiter fecit: et quæcumque fecit Pater temporalia, hæc eadem fecit Filius tempo­ ralia; quia non solum ipsa fecit, sed et similiter fe­ cit. Pater enim fecit per Filium, quia per Verbum fe­ cit Pater omnia.

He had already said, “these he does”; why did he add, “he does likewise”? So that another wrong understanding or error should not arise in the mind. For you see the work of a man: there is mind in a man and body; the mind commands the body, but there is a great difference between body and mind: the body is visible, the mind invisible; there is a great difference between the power and strength of the mind and that of any body, even a heavenly one. Yet the mind commands its body, and the body acts; and what the mind is seen to do, the body also does. The body, then, seems to do the same thing as the mind, but not likewise. How does it do the same thing, but not likewise? The mind makes a word within itself, commands the tongue, and the tongue utters the word the mind made: the mind made it, and the tongue made it; the master of the body made it, and the servant made it; but in order for the servant to make it, it received from the master what to make, and made it at the master's command. The same thing was made by both; but likewise? How not likewise, someone says? See, the word my mind made remains in me; what my tongue made, once the air was struck, has passed away and is not. When you have spoken a word in your mind, and it has sounded through your tongue, go back to your mind and see that the word you made is there. Did it remain in your tongue as it remained in your mind? What sounded through your tongue the tongue made by sounding, the mind made by thinking; but what the tongue sounded has passed away; what the mind thought remains. So the body made what the mind made, but not likewise. For the mind made what the mind may keep; but the tongue made what sounds and strikes the ear through the air. Do you chase the syllables and make them stay? Not so, then, the Father and the Son; but he does these same things, and does them likewise. If God made the heaven that remains, the Son made this heaven that remains. If God the Father made man who dies, the Son made the same man who dies. Whatever lasting things the Father made, these lasting things the Son also made, because he made them likewise; and whatever temporal things the Father made, these same temporal things the Son made, because he not only made the same things but also made them likewise. For the Father made through the Son, because the Father made all things through the Word.

John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Unlike mind and tongue, which make the same word in unlike ways, the Son makes the same things as the Father and makes them likewise.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): cujusvis 'licet → cujusvis licet; jubente domino fccit → jubente domino fecit; manet in mc: qnod fecit lingua mea, percusso acre transiit, ct non est → manet in me: quod fecit lingua mea, percusso aere transiit, et non est; permanet. noc ergo → permanet. Hoc ergo; hæc cadem facit → hæc eadem facit; hac eadem fecit → hæc eadem fecit; similiter fc­ cit → similiter fe­ cit.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.10 (PL 35:1561; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.

20.11PL 35:1561

Quære in Patre et Filio separationem, non in­ venis: sed si assurrexisti, tunc non invenis; si ali­ quid supra mentem tuam tetigisti, tunc non invenis. Nam si in his versaris, quae sibi errans animus facit; cum imaginibus tuis loqueris, non cum Verbo Dei: fallunt te imagines tuæ. Transcende et corpus, et sape animum: transcende et animum, et sape Deum. Non tangis Deum, nisi et animum transieris: quanto minus tangis, si in carne manseris? Illi ergo qui sa­ piunt carnem, quam longe sunt a sapiendo quod Deus est? quia non ibi essent, etiam si animum saperent. Recedit homo multum a Deo quando sapit car­ naliter, et multum interest inter carnem et animum: plus tamen interest inter animum et Deum. Tu si in animo es, in medio es: si infra attendis, corpus est: si supra attendis, Deus est. Attolle te a corpore, transi etiam te. Vide enim quid dixit Psalmus, et ad­ moneris quemadmodum sapiendus sit Deus: Factæ sunt, inquit, mihi lacrymæ meæ panes die ac nocte, cum dicitur mihi quotidie, Ubi est Deus tuus? Tanquam Pagani dicant: Ecce dii nostri; Deus vester ubi est? Ostendunt enim illi quod videtur; nos colimus quod non videtur. Et cui ostendamus? homini qui non ha­ bet unde videat? Nam utique si ipsi deos suos vident oculis; habemus et nos alios oculos, unde videamus Deum nostrum. Ipsi oculi mundandi sunt a Deo no­ stro, ut videamus Deum nostrum: Beati enim mundi corde, quia ipsi Deum videbunt. Ergo cum se conturbatum dixisset, cum dicitur illi quo­ tidie, Ubi est Deus tuus? Hæc memoratus sum, inquit, quia dicitur mihi quotidie, Ubi eat Deus tuus? et quasi volens apprehendere Deum suum, Hæc memoratus sum, inquit, et effudi super me animam meam. Ut ergo attingerem Deum meum, de quo mihi dicebatur, Ubi eat Deus tuus? non effudi animam meam super carnem meam, sed super me: tran­ scendi me, ut illum tangerem. Ille enim est super me, qui fecit me: nemo eum attingit, nisi qui transierit se.

Seek a separation in the Father and the Son: you will not find one. But only if you have risen up will you then not find one; only if you have touched something above your mind will you then not find one. For if you move among the things that the mind makes for itself in its wandering, you are talking with your own images, not with the Word of God: your images deceive you. Pass beyond the body too, and understand the mind; pass beyond the mind too, and understand God. You do not touch God unless you have passed beyond the mind as well: how much less do you touch him if you have stayed in the flesh? Those, then, whose understanding is of the flesh, how far are they from understanding what God is? For they would not be there even if they understood the mind. A man withdraws far from God when he understands carnally; and there is a great difference between flesh and mind, but a greater difference between mind and God. If you are in the mind, you are in the middle: if you look below, there is the body; if you look above, there is God. Lift yourself up from the body; pass beyond yourself too. For see what the psalm said, and you are reminded how God is to be understood: “My tears have been my bread day and night, while it is said to me every day, Where is your God?” As though the pagans were saying, “See, here are our gods; where is your God?” For they point to what is seen; we worship what is not seen. And to whom should we show it? To a man who has nothing to see with? For surely, if they see their gods with their eyes, we too have other eyes with which to see our God. Those very eyes must be cleansed by our God, that we may see our God: “For blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.” So, when he had said he was troubled, when it was said to him every day, “Where is your God?”—“These things I remembered,” he says, because it is said to me every day, “Where is your God?” And as if wishing to lay hold of his God, “These things I remembered,” he says, “and poured out my soul above me.” So, in order to reach my God, of whom it was said to me, “Where is your God?”, I did not pour out my soul over my flesh, but above me: I passed beyond myself, in order to touch him. For he who made me is above me: no one reaches him except one who has passed beyond himself.

Ps 42:3 (41:4 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 42:4 (41:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:8 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: No separation is found in Father and Son by one who rises above body and mind; as the psalmist poured out his soul above himself, God is reached only by passing beyond oneself.

  • Ps 42:3–4 (41:4–5 LXX) and Matt 5:8 are quoted; sapere (to understand, to have a sense of) is rendered “understand.”

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): si ill his versaris → si in his versaris; imagiuibus → imaginibus; transcendc → transcende; Nun tangis → Non tangis; auimum → animum; sapiendus sit Deos: Factas sunt, inquit, mihi /acrymæ → sapiendus sit Deus: Factæ sunt, inquit, mihi lacrymæ; ubi est I Ostendunt → ubi est? Ostendunt; non*ha → non ha; uude videamus → unde videamus; Deo no­ suo → Deo no­ stro; Beati enim mundo corde → Beati enim mundi corde; apprehendere Dcum → apprehendere Deum.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.11 (PL 35:1561; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.

20.12PL 35:1561–1563

Cogita corpus; mortale est, terrenum est, fra- Bile est, corruptibile est: abjice. Sed forte caro ten- ' poralis est. Alia corpora cogita, coelestia corpora co­ gita; majora, meliora, splendida sunt: attende et ipsa, volvuntur ab oriente ad occidentem, non stant; videntur oculis, non solum ab homine, sed etiam a pecore: transi et ipsa. Et quomodo, inquies, trans­ eo caelestia corpora, cum ambulo in terra? Non carne transis, sed mente. Abjice et ipsa: quamvis luceant, corpora sunt; quamvis de caelo fulgeant, corpora sunt. Veni, quoniam forte non te putas habere quo eas, cum consideras ista omnia. Et ultra caelestia corpora quo iturus sum, inquis, et quid mente trans­ iturus sum? Considerasti ista omnia? Consideravi, inquis. Unde considerasti? Ipse considerator appareat. Ipse enim considerator istorum omnium, discrimina­ tor, distinctor et quodammodo appensor in libra sa­ pientiæ. animus est. Sine dubio melior est animus quo ista omnia cogitasti, quam ista omnia quæ cogi­ tasti. Animus ergo iste spiritus est, non corpus: transi et ipsum. Compara ipsum animum primo, ut videas quo transeas; compara illum carni. Absit, ne digneris comparare. Compara illum fulgori solis, lu­ nae, stellarum: major fulgor est animi. Primo cele­ ritatem animi ipsius vide. Vide si non vehementior scintilla est animi cogitantis, quam splendor solis lu­ centis. Solem orientem tu vides animo: motus ipsius quam tardus est ad animum tuum? Cito tu potuisti cogitare quod facturus est sol. Ab oriente ad occiden­ tem venturus est, jam ex alia parte cras oritur. Ubi hoc fecit cogitatio tua, adhuc ille tardus est, et tu omnia peragrasti. Magna ergo res est animus. Sed quomodo dico, est? Transi et ipsum; quia et ipse animus mutabilis est, quamvis melior sit omni cor­ pore. Modo novit, modo non novit; modo oblivisci­ tur, modo recordatur; modo vult, modo non vult; modo peccat, modo justus est. Transi ergo omnem mutabilitatem; non solum omne quod videtur, sed et omne quod mutatur. Transisti enim carnem quae vi­ detur, transisti cœlum, solem, lunam, et stellas quae videntur; transi et omne quod mutatur. Jam enim istis transactis veneras ad animum tuum, sed et ibi invenisti mutabilitatem animi tui. Numquid mutabilis est Deus? Transi ergo et animum tuum. Effunde su­ per te animam tuam, ut contingas Deum, de quo tibi dicitur, Ubi est Deus tuus?

Think of the body: it is mortal, it is earthly, it is frail, it is corruptible: cast it away. But perhaps the flesh is temporal. Think of other bodies, think of the heavenly bodies; they are greater, better, splendid: look at them too; they revolve from east to west, they do not stand still; they are seen with the eyes, not only by man but also by beasts: pass beyond them too. “And how,” you will say, “do I pass beyond the heavenly bodies, when I walk on the earth?” You pass beyond them not with the flesh but with the mind. Cast them away too: though they shine, they are bodies; though they gleam from the sky, they are bodies. Come, since perhaps you think you have nowhere to go when you consider all these. “And beyond the heavenly bodies,” you say, “where am I to go, and what am I to pass beyond with the mind?” Have you considered all these? “I have considered them,” you say. With what have you considered them? Let the considerer himself appear. For the considerer of all these, the one who discerns, distinguishes, and in a manner weighs them in the balance of wisdom, is the mind. Without doubt the mind with which you have thought of all these is better than all these that you have thought of. This mind, then, is spirit, not body: pass beyond it too. Compare the mind itself first, that you may see where you are to pass beyond: compare it with the flesh. Far be it! Do not deign to compare them. Compare it with the brightness of the sun, the moon, the stars: the brightness of the mind is greater. First look at the swiftness of the mind itself. See whether the spark of the thinking mind is not more vehement than the splendor of the shining sun. With your mind you see the sun rising: how slow is its motion compared with your mind! Swiftly you were able to think what the sun is going to do. It is going to come from the east to the west, and tomorrow it rises again from the other side. When your thought has done this, the sun is still slow, and you have traversed everything. A great thing, then, is the mind. But how do I say “is”? Pass beyond it too; for the mind itself is changeable, though it is better than every body. Now it knows, now it does not know; now it forgets, now it remembers; now it wills, now it does not will; now it sins, now it is just. Pass, then, beyond all changeableness: not only beyond all that is seen, but also beyond all that changes. For you have passed beyond the flesh, which is seen; you have passed beyond the heaven, the sun, the moon, and the stars, which are seen; pass beyond all that changes too. For when you had finished with these, you had come to your mind, but there too you found the changeableness of your mind. Is God changeable? Pass beyond your mind too, then. Pour out your soul above you, that you may reach God, of whom it is said to you, “Where is your God?”

Ps 42:4 (41:5 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 42:3 (41:4 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine leads the hearer upward past the body, the heavenly bodies, and the changeable mind itself, to the unchangeable God.

  • Ps 42:3–4 (41:4–5 LXX) is recalled.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): splendida suAt → splendida sunt; inquics → inquies; NOD carne → Non carne; itnrus → iturus; Consideravit inquis → Consideravi, inquis; omuium, discrimina­ lor, distiuctor → omnium, discrimina­ tor, distinctor; Compara ilium → Compara illum; Solem oricnlem → Solem orientem; Cito t'i potuisti cogitare quod facturis est sel → Cito tu potuisti cogitare quod facturus est sol; ex aVia parte → ex alia parte; noM vult → non vult; noa solum → non solum; quod mutator → quod mutatur; Ubi cat Deus → Ubi est Deus.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.12 (PL 35:1561–1563; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.

20.13PL 35:1563

Ne putes te aliquid facturum quod homo non possit. Hoc fecit ipse Joannes evangelista. Transcen­ dit carnem, transcendit terram quam calcabat, tran­ scendit maria quae videbat, transcendit aerem ubi alites volitant, transcendit solem, transcendit lunam, transcendit stellas, transcendit omnes spiritus qui non videntur, transcendit mentem suam ipsa ratione animi sui. Transcendens ista omnia, super se effun­ dens animam suam, quo pervenit? Quid vidit? In prin­ cipio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum. Si ergo separationem non vides in luce, quid separationem quæris in opere? Vide Deum, vide Verbum ejus in­ haerere Verbo dicentia: quia ipse dicens non syllabis dicit; sed splendore sapientiæ fulgere, hoc est dicere. Quid dictum est de Sapientia ipsius? Candor est lucis æternæ. Attende candorem solis. In cœlo est; et expandit candorem per terras omnes, per maria omnia: et utique corporalis lux est. Si separas candorem solis a sole, separa Verbum a Patre. De sole loquor. Lucernae una flammula tenuis, quæ uno flatu possit exstingui, spargit lucem suam super cuncta quæ subjacent. Vides lucem sparsam a flammula ge­ neratam, emissionem vides, separationem non vides. Intelligite ergo, fratres charissimi, Patrem et Filium et Spiritum sanctum inseparabiliter sibi cohærere, Trinitatem hanc unum Deum; et omnia opera unius Dei, hæc esse Patris, hæc esse Filii, haec esse Spiritus sancti. Cætera quæ consequuntur, quæ pertinent ad sermonem ipsius Domini nostri Jesu Christi in Evangelio, quoniam et crastino die sermo debetur vobis, adestote ut audiatis.

Do not think that you will be doing something that a man cannot do. John the evangelist himself did this. He passed beyond the flesh, passed beyond the earth he trod, passed beyond the seas he saw, passed beyond the air where the birds fly, passed beyond the sun, passed beyond the moon, passed beyond the stars, passed beyond all the spirits that are not seen, passed beyond his own mind by the very reason of his soul. Passing beyond all these, pouring out his soul above himself, where did he arrive? What did he see? “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God.” If, then, you see no separation in the light, why do you seek separation in the work? See God; see his Word clinging to the Word-speaker: for he who speaks does not speak in syllables, but to shine with the splendor of wisdom—this is his speaking. What has been said of his Wisdom? “It is the radiance of eternal light.” Look at the radiance of the sun. The sun is in the sky, and it spreads its radiance over all lands, over all seas; and yet it is a bodily light. If you can separate the radiance of the sun from the sun, separate the Word from the Father. I am speaking of the sun. One slender little flame of a lamp, which can be put out with one breath, spreads its light over everything that lies near it. You see the light spread out, generated by the little flame; you see emission, you do not see separation. Understand, then, dearest brothers, that the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit cleave to one another inseparably, that this Trinity is one God, and that all the works of the one God are the works of the Father, the works of the Son, the works of the Holy Spirit. As for the rest that follows, belonging to the discourse of our Lord Jesus Christ himself in the Gospel, since a sermon is owed to you tomorrow as well, be present to hear it.

John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: John rose above all creation to see the Word with God; as radiance cannot be separated from its source, the Word cannot be separated from the Father, and the Trinity's works are one.

  • John 1:1 and Wis 7:26 are quoted. “Clinging to the Word-speaker” renders the doubtful phrase inhærere Verbo dicentia (perhaps dicenti), translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark in the digital text): quod homo no.. possit → quod homo non possit; vidcbat → videbat; transeendii → transcendit; ipsa ratione I animi → ipsa ratione animi; Transcendeus → Transcendens; non vides m luce → non vides in luce; Vide Dcum → Vide Deum; uno latu possit → uno flatu possit; cuncta luae subjacent → cuncta quæ subjacent; flammula gc­ neratam → flammula ge­ neratam.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:26 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 20.13 (PL 35:1563; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/20-1/#p-20-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 35 (digital text, Open Greek and Latin), then compared batch by batch with the public-domain English of NPNF¹ 7 (Gibb and Innes, 1888); differences checked against the Latin.