Tractates on the Gospel of John 110.1–110.7

Latin text: Migne, PL 35 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 7 (1888).

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Chapter 110

110.1PL 35:1919

Cum Dominus Jesus orasset pro discipulis suis quos tunc secum habebat, atque adjunxisset suos alios, dicens, Non pro his autem rogo tantum, sed et pro eis qui credituri sunt per verbum eorum in me; ve­ lut quaereremus, quid vel quare pro illis rogaret, con­ tinuo subintulit, dicens: Ut omnes unum sint, sicut tu, Pater, in me, et ego in te, ut et ipsi in nobis unum sint. Et superius cum adhuc pro solis discipulis, quos se­ cum habebat, oraret: Pater sancte, inquit, serva eos in nomine tuo quos dedisti mihi, ut sint unum sicut et nos. Hoc ergo nunc etiam et pro nobis rogavit, quod tunc pro illis, ut omnes, hoc est et nos et illi, unum simus. Ubi diligenter advertendum est non dixisse Dominum, ut omnes unum simus; sed, Ut omnes unum sint, sicut tu, Pater, in me, et ego in te (subintelligitur, unum sumus; quod apertius dicitur postea): quia et prius dixerat de discipulis qui cum illo erant, Ut sint unum sicut et nos. Quamobrem ita est Pater in Filio, et Filius in Patre, ut unum sint, quia unius substantiae sunt: nos vero esse quidem in eis possumus, unum tamen cum eis esse non possu­ mus; quia unius substantiæ nos et ipsi non sumus, in quantum Filius cum Patre Deus est. Nam in quantum homo est, ejusdem substantiae est cujus et nos sumus. Sed nunc illud potius voluit commendare, quod alio loco ait, Ego et Pater unum sumus; ubi eamdem Patris et suam significavit esse naturam. Ac per hoc et cum in nobis sunt Pater et Filius, vel etiam Spiritus sanctus, non debemus eos putare na­ turae unius esse nobiscum. Sic itaque sunt in nobis, vel nos in illis, ut illi unum sint in natura sua, nos unum in nostra. Sunt quippe ipsi in nobis, tanquam Deus in templo suo: sumus autem nos in illis, tan­ quam creatura in Creatore suo.

When the Lord Jesus had prayed for his disciples whom he then had with him, and had added his other people, saying, "Yet I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word," as if we might ask what he asked for them, or why, he at once went on, saying: "That they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they too may be one in us." And above, when he was still praying only for the disciples whom he had with him, he said: "Holy Father, keep them in your name, those whom you have given me, that they may be one as we also are." So what he then asked for them he now asked for us too, that all of us, that is, both we and they, may be one. Here we must carefully note that the Lord did not say, "That we all may be one," but, "That they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me, and I in you" (understood: "are one," which is said more plainly afterward); because before he had also said of the disciples who were with him, "That they may be one as we also are." Therefore the Father is in the Son and the Son in the Father in such a way that they are one, because they are of one substance; but we, though we can indeed be in them, cannot be one with them; because we and they are not of one substance, insofar as the Son with the Father is God. For insofar as he is man, he is of the same substance as we are. But here he wished rather to commend what he says in another place, "I and the Father are one," where he signified that the nature of the Father and his own is the same. And therefore, even when the Father and the Son, or the Holy Spirit too, are in us, we must not think them to be of one nature with us. So they are in us, or we in them, in such a way that they are one in their nature, and we one in ours. For they are in us as God in his temple; but we are in them as the creature in its Creator.

John 17:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:11 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:16 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Christ asks that believers be one as he and the Father are one, but believers are one in their own nature, not of one substance with God; God dwells in them as in his temple.

  • John 17:20–21, 17:11, and 10:30 are quoted; 1 Cor 3:16 is in view. The distinction of one substance in God and the believers' unity is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): discipulis sui. quos → discipulis suis quos; pro eia qui → pro eis qui; tut quaereremus → lut quaereremus; Et supcrius → Et superius; advertendum cst → advertendum est; ut omnes uninn simus → ut omnes unum simus; unum siut, sicut tu, Puter → unum sint, sicut tu, Pater; sicut et noa. → sicut et nos.; homo ast → homo est; eamdm → eamdem; Sunt.quippe → Sunt quippe.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.1 (PL 35:1919; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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110.2PL 35:1919–1921

Deinde cum dixisset, Ut et ipsi in nobis unum sint, adjunxit, Ut mundus credat quia tu me misisti. Quid est hoc? Numquidnam tunc crediturus est mundus, quando in Patre et Filio unum omnes erimus? Nonne ista est pax illa perpetua, et potius fidei merces quam fides? Unum enim erimus, non ut credamus, sed quia cre­ didimus. Sed etsi in hac vita propter ipsam commu­ nem fidem, omnes qui in unum credimus, unum su­ mus, juxta illud Apostoli, Omnes enim vos unum estis in Christo Jesu; etiam sic non ut cre­ damus, sed quia credimus, unum sumus. Quid est ergo, Omnes unum sint, ut mundus credat? Ipsi quippe omnes mundus est credens. Neque enim alii sunt qui unum erunt, et alius est mundus propterea creditu­ rus, quia illi unum erunt; cum procul dubio de his dicat, Ut omnes unum sint, de quibus dixerat, Non pro his autem rogo tantum, sed et pro eis qui credituri sunt per verbum eorum in me, continuo subjungens, Ut omnes unum sint. Isti autem omnes quid est, nisi mundus, non hostilis utique, sed fidelis? Nam ecce qui dixerat, Non pro mundo rogo, pro mundo rogat ut credat. Quoniam est mundus de quo scriptum est: Ne cum hoc mundo damnemur. Pro isto mundo non rogat: neque enim quo sit prædestinatus, ignorat. Et est mundus de quo scri­ ptum est, Non enim venit Filius hominis ut judicet mundum, sed ut salvetur mundus per ipsum: unde et Apostolus, Deus, inquit, erat in Christo, mundum reconcilians sibi. Pro isto mundo rogat, dicens, Ut mundus credat quia tu me mi­ sisti. Per hanc enim fidem mundus reconciliatur Deo, cum credit in Christum qui est missus a Deo. Quo­ modo ergo intellecturi sumus quod ait, Ut et ipsi in nobis unum sint, ut credat mundus quia tu me misisti: nisi quia non in eo causam posuit ut credat mundus, quia illi unum sunt, tanquam ideo credat quod eos esse unum videt; cum ipse mundus sint omnes, qui credendo unum fiunt: sed orando dixit, Ut mundus credat; sicut orando dixit, Ut omnes unum sint; orando dixit, Ut et ipsi in nobis unum sint? Hoc est enim omnes unum sint, quod est mundus credat: quoniam credendo unum fiunt; perfecte unum, qui cum natura essent unum, dissentiendo ab uno non erant unum. Denique si verbum quod ait, rogo, tertio subaudia­ mus, vel potius quo plenius fiat, ubique ponamus; erit hujus expositio sententiæ manifestior: Rogo ut omnes unum sint, sicut tu Pater in me, et ego in te: rogo ut et ipsi in nobis unum sint: rogo ut mundus cre­ dat quia tu me misisti. Ideo quippe addidit, quod dixit, in nobis, ut quod unum efficimur fidelissima chari­ tate, gratiæ Dei noverimus tribuendum esse, non no­ bis: sicut Apostolus cum dixisset, Fuistis enim ali­ quando tenebræ, nunc autem lux, inquit; et ne sibi hoc tribuerent, adjecit, in Domino.

Then, when he had said, "that they too may be one in us," he added, "that the world may believe that you sent me." What is this? Will the world believe only then, when we shall all be one in the Father and the Son? Is not that the everlasting peace, and the reward of faith rather than faith? For we shall be one not in order to believe, but because we have believed. But even if in this life all of us who believe in the One are one because of our common faith, according to the Apostle's words, "For you are all one in Christ Jesus," even so we are one not in order to believe, but because we believe. What then is "that they may all be one, that the world may believe"? For they themselves, all of them, are the believing world. For it is not that some are those who will be one, and another is the world that will believe because they will be one; since beyond doubt he says "that they may all be one" of those of whom he had said, "Yet I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word," at once adding, "that they may all be one." But what are all these but the world; not the hostile world, certainly, but the faithful one? For see, he who had said, "I do not pray for the world," prays for the world that it may believe. For there is a world of which it is written, "that we may not be condemned with this world." For this world he does not pray; for he is not ignorant of what it is predestined to. And there is a world of which it is written, "For the Son of Man did not come to judge the world, but that the world may be saved through him"; whence the Apostle too says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself." For this world he prays, saying, "that the world may believe that you sent me." For by this faith the world is reconciled to God, when it believes in Christ, who was sent by God. How then are we to understand his saying, "that they too may be one in us, that the world may believe that you sent me," except that he did not make their being one the cause of the world's believing, as though it believes because it sees them to be one, since the world itself is all those who become one by believing; but in praying he said, "that the world may believe," just as in praying he said, "that they may all be one," and in praying he said, "that they too may be one in us"? For "that they may all be one" is the same as "that the world may believe": since by believing they become one; perfectly one, they who, though one by nature, were not one because they dissented from the One. Finally, if we supply the words "I ask" a third time, or rather, to make it fuller, put them everywhere, the explanation of this sentence will be plainer: I ask that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me, and I in you; I ask that they too may be one in us; I ask that the world may believe that you sent me. For he added "in us" so that we might know that our being made one by most faithful love is to be attributed to the grace of God, not to ourselves; as the Apostle, when he had said, "For you were once darkness, but now you are light," lest they attribute this to themselves, added, "in the Lord."

John 17:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Gal 3:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:20 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 11:32 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 5:8 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The unity and the faith Christ prays for are the same thing: the faithful world, reconciled to God, becomes one by believing, by God's grace.

  • John 17:9, 17:20–21, Gal 3:28, 1 Cor 11:32, John 3:17, 2 Cor 5:19, and Eph 5:8 are quoted. The two senses of "world", one predestined to condemnation and one reconciled, are translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (joined words)): Quid est Loc? → Quid est hoc?; crediturusest → crediturus est; fidcm → fidem; juxta iliud → juxta illud; mundus est credeus → mundus est credens; Ut omnes anum sint → Ut omnes unum sint; qui dixcrat → qui dixerat; pro muudo rogat → pro mundo rogat; causam posuit uC credat → causam posuit ut credat; cum natura cssent → cum natura essent; ct ego in te: rogo → et ego in te: rogo; Gdelissima → fidelissima.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.2 (PL 35:1919–1921; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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110.3PL 35:1921

Deinde Salvator noster rogando Patrem, se ho­ minem demonstrabat: nunc demonstrans et seipsum, quoniam cum Patre Deus est, facere quod rogat, Et ego, inquit, claritatem quam dedisti mihi, dedi illis. Quam claritatem, nisi immortalitatem, quam natura humana in illo fuerat acceptura? Nam nec ipse adhuc acceperat eam, sed more suo propter immobilitatem prædestinationis, præteriti temporis verbis futura si­ gnificat, quod nunc clarificandus, hoc est suscitandus a Patre, et ipse sit nos ad eam claritatem suscitaturus in fine. Simile est hoc ei quod alibi dicit, Sicut Pater suscitat mortuos et vivificat, sic et Filius quos vult vivi­ ficat. Et quos, nisi eosdem quos Pater? Quæcumque enim Pater facit, non alia, sed hæc et Filius; nec ali­ ter, sed similiter facit. Ac per hoc suscitavit et seipsum etiam ipse. Nam inde est, Sol­ vite templum hoc, inquit, et in triduo resuscitabo illud. Proinde immortalitatis claritatem, quam sibi a Patre datam dicit, etiam ipse sibi dedisse intel­ ligendus est, etsi non dicit. Ideo quippe saepius solum Patrem facere dicit quod et ipse facit cum Patre, ut quidquid est ei tribuat de quo est. Sed et aliquando etiam tacito Patre, se dicit facere quod facit cum Pa­ tre: ut intelligamus ita Filium non esse a Patris opere separandum, quando se tacito Patrem dicit ali­ quid operari; quemadmodum nec Pater ab opere Filii separatur, quando ipso tacito Filius operari dicitur, quod nihilominus pariter operantur. Cum ergo tacet Filius in opere Patris operationem suam, humilitatem commendat, ut sit nobis salubrior: cum vero vicissim in opere suo tacet operationem Patris, parilitatem suam commendat, ne credatur inferior. Isto igitur modo et hoc loco nec se facit alienum a Patris opere, quamvis dixerit, Claritatem quam dedisti mihi; quia et ipse dedit eam sibi: nec Patrem facit alienum ab opere suo, quamvis dixerit, dedi eis; quia et Pater illam dedit eis. Inseparabilia namque sunt opera non solum Patris et Filii, verum etiam Spiritus sancti. Sicut autem ex eo quod Patrem pro suis omnibus ro­ gavit, hoc fieri voluit, Ut omnes unum sint: ita ex hoc etiam suo beneficio quod ait, Claritatem quam dedisti mihi, dedi eis, id fieri nihilominus voluit; nam con­ tinuo subjunxit, Ut sint unum, sicut et nos unum sumus.

Then our Savior, who by asking the Father was showing himself to be man, now, showing that he himself too, since he is God with the Father, does what he asks, says, "And the glory which you have given me I have given them." What glory but immortality, which human nature was to receive in him? For he himself had not yet received it either; but in his manner, because of the unchangeableness of predestination, he signifies future things by words of past time: that he is now to be glorified, that is, raised up by the Father, and that he himself will raise us to that glory at the end. This is like what he says elsewhere: "As the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will." And to whom, but the same as the Father? For whatever the Father does, the Son does, not other things but these, nor otherwise but likewise. And therefore he also raised himself up. For hence it is: "Destroy this temple," he says, "and in three days I will raise it up." So the glory of immortality, which he says was given him by the Father, is to be understood as given to himself by himself too, even if he does not say so. For he often says that the Father alone does what he himself also does with the Father, in order to attribute whatever he is to him from whom he is. But sometimes too, saying nothing of the Father, he says that he does what he does with the Father; so that we may understand that the Son is not to be separated from the Father's work when, saying nothing of himself, he says that the Father works something; just as the Father is not separated from the Son's work when, nothing being said of the Father, the Son is said to work what they nevertheless work equally. So when the Son is silent about his own working in the Father's work, he commends humility, that it may be the more salutary for us; but when, conversely, he is silent about the Father's working in his own work, he commends his equality, lest he be believed inferior. In this way, then, in this place too, he does not make himself a stranger to the Father's work, though he said, "The glory which you have given me," because he too gave it to himself; nor does he make the Father a stranger to his own work, though he said, "I have given them," because the Father too gave it to them. For the works not only of the Father and the Son but also of the Holy Spirit are inseparable. And just as, by asking the Father for all his own, he willed that this be done, "that they may all be one," so also by this kindness of his, of which he says, "The glory which you have given me I have given them," he willed the same thing to be done; for he at once added, "that they may be one, as we also are one."

John 17:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:19 (allusion, high confidence) · John 2:19 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: The glory given to the disciples is immortality, which Christ gives together with the Father, for the works of the Trinity are inseparable.

  • John 17:22, 5:21, 5:19, and 2:19 are quoted.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (broken word); OCR slip (joined words); stray mark): Dcindc → Deinde; milii → mihi; quam.natura → quam natura; nee ipse adhuc → nec ipse adhuc; a Patrc, et ipse sit nos ad cam → a Patre, et ipse sit nos ad eam; eosdem qnos Pater → eosdem quos Pater; scd similiter → sed similiter; Ac per lioc → Ac per hoc; intriduo → in triduo; dedisse;ntel → dedisse intel; ope. re → opere; Fi- Iii separatur → Filii separatur; cnm vcro → cum vero; parilitatcm → parilitatem; et hoe loco → et hoc loco; quamvis dixcrit, dedi → quamvis dixerit, dedi; vcrum etiam Spiritus → verum etiam Spiritus; id lieri → id fieri; sicut et noa unum → sicut et nos unum.

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.3 (PL 35:1921; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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110.4PL 35:1921–1923

Deinde addidit: Ego in eis, et tu in me, ut sint consummati in unum. Ubi se mediatorem inter Deum et homines breviter intimavit. Neque enim hoc ita dictum est, tanquam Pater non sit in nobis, aut nos in Patre non simus; cum et alio loco dixerit, Venie­ mus ad eum, et mansionem apud eum faciemus: et hic paulo ante non dixerit, Ego in eis et tu in me, quod dixit modo; aut, Ipsi in me et ego in te; sed, Tu in me et ego in te, et ipsi in nobis. Quod ergo nunc ait, Ego in eis et tu in me, ita dictum est ex persona Mediatoris, sicut illud quod Apostolus ait, Vos Christi, Christus vero Dei. Quod vero addidit, Ut sint consummati in unum, os­ tendit eo perduci reconciliationem, quæ fit per Me­ diatorem, ut perfecta beatitudine, cui jam nihil pos­ sit adjici, perfruamur. Unde id quod sequitur, Ut cognoscat mundus quia tu me misisti, non sic accipien­ dum puto, tanquam iterum dixerit, Ut credat mundus: aliquando enim et cognoscere pro eo quod est credere ponitur, ut est quod ait aliquanto superius, Et cognoverunt vere quia a te exivi, et crediderunt quia tu me misisti. Hoc dixit posterius crediderunt, quod prius dixerat cognoverunt. Sed hic quandoquidem de consummatione loquitur, talis est intelligenda cognitio, qualis erit per speciem, non qualis nunc est per fidem. Nam videtur ordo esse servatus in eo quod paulo ante dixit, Ut credat mun­ dus; hic autem, Ut cognoscat mundus. Ibi enim quamvis dixerit, Ut omnes unum sint, et in nobis unum sint, non ait tamen, Sint consummati in unum; atque ita subnexuit, Ut credat mundus quia tu me misisti: hic vero, Ut sint, inquit, consummati in unum; ac deinde non addidit, Ut credat mundus, sed, Ut cognoscat mundus quia tu me misisti. Quamdiu enim credimus quod non videmus, nondum sumus ita consummati, quemadmodum erimus cum meruerimus videre quod credimus. Rectissime igitur ibi, Ut cre­ dat mundus; hic, Ut cognoscat mundus: tamen et ibi et hic, quia tu me misisti; ut noverimus quantum pertinet ad Patris et Filii inseparabilem charitatem, hoc nos modo credere quod tendimus credendo co­ gnoscere. Si autem diceret, Ut cognoscant quia tu me misisti: tantumdem valeret quantum hoc quod ait, Ut cognoscat mundus. Ipsi sunt enim mundus, non permanens inimicus, qualis est mundus damnationi prædestinatus; sed ex inimico amicus effectus, prop­ ter quem Deus erat in Christo mundum reconcilians sibi. Ideo dixit, Ego in eis, et tu in me; tanquam dice­ ret, Ego in eis ad quos misisti me; et tu in me, mun­ dum reconcilians tibi per me.

Then he added: "I in them, and you in me, that they may be perfected into one." Here he briefly intimated that he is the mediator between God and men. For this is not said as though the Father were not in us or we were not in the Father; since he has also said in another place, "We will come to him and make our dwelling with him"; and here, a little before, he did not say what he has now said, "I in them and you in me," or "They in me and I in you," but "You in me and I in you, and they in us." So what he now says, "I in them and you in me," is said in the person of the mediator, just as the Apostle says, "You are Christ's, and Christ is God's." But what he added, "that they may be perfected into one," shows that the reconciliation made through the mediator is brought to this end, that we may enjoy a perfect blessedness to which nothing more can be added. Hence I think that what follows, "that the world may know that you sent me," is not to be taken as though he were saying again, "that the world may believe"; for sometimes "to know" is used for "to believe," as in what he said somewhat above, "And they have known truly that I came forth from you, and they have believed that you sent me." What he had said first as "they have known," he said afterward as "they have believed." But here, since he is speaking of the perfecting, the knowledge must be understood as that which there will be by sight, not that which there now is by faith. For an order seems to have been kept, in that a little before he said, "that the world may believe," but here, "that the world may know." For there, though he said, "that they may all be one" and "may be one in us," he did not say, "may be perfected into one," and so he added, "that the world may believe that you sent me"; but here he says, "that they may be perfected into one," and then did not add, "that the world may believe," but, "that the world may know that you sent me." For as long as we believe what we do not see, we are not yet perfected as we shall be when we have merited to see what we believe. Most rightly, then, there it is "that the world may believe," and here "that the world may know"; yet both there and here, "that you sent me"; so that we may know that, as far as concerns the inseparable love of the Father and the Son, what we now believe is what by believing we strive to know. But if he had said, "That they may know that you sent me," it would mean just as much as what he says, "that the world may know." For they themselves are the world: not the world that remains an enemy, such as is the world predestined to condemnation, but the world made a friend from an enemy, for whose sake "God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself." Therefore he said, "I in them, and you in me," as if he said: I in those to whom you sent me; and you in me, reconciling the world to yourself through me.

John 17:23 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 3:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 17:8 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: "I in them and you in me" is said as mediator; "perfected into one" points to the final blessedness, when the world will know by sight what it now believes.

  • John 17:23, 14:23, 17:21, 1 Cor 3:23, John 17:8, and 2 Cor 5:19 are quoted; 1 Tim 2:5 is in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (broken word)): ila dictum est → ita dictum est; Qnod ergo nunc → Quod ergo nunc; accipicn → accipien; mun - dus → mundus; pro eo quod cst credere → pro eo quod est credere; dixcrat cognoverunt → dixerat cognoverunt; hic autcm → hic autem; credat mundns → credat mundus; hic vcro, Ut sint → hic vero, Ut sint; acdcindc → ac deinde; Ut credat mundus. sed → Ut credat mundus, sed; con. summati → consummati; CUrII meruerimus → cum meruerimus; et iui et hie, quia In me misisti → et ibi et hic, quia tu me misisti; Patris tt Filii → Patris et Filii; quia tante litisisti: tantumdem taleret quantum hoc quod:fit, Ut, cognoscat → quia tu me misisti: tantumdem valeret quantum hoc quod ait, Ut cognoscat; ded et inimieo → sed ex inimico; erat In Christo → erat in Christo; Ego in eis,et tu in me i tanquam → Ego in eis, et tu in me; tanquam; et tU iit me → et tu in me.

Topics: Christology, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.4 (PL 35:1921–1923; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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110.5PL 35:1923

Propterea sequitur etiam illud quod ait, Et dilexisti eos sicut et me dilexisti. In Filio quippe nos Pater diligit, quia in ipso nos elegit ante constitutio­ nem mundi. Qui enim diligit Unigeni­ tum, profecto diligit et membra ejus quæ adoptavit in eum per eum. Nec ideo pares sumus unigenito Filio per quem creati et recreati sumus; quia di­ ctum est, Dilexisti eos sicut et me. Neque enim sem­ per aequalitatem significat, qui dicit, Sicut illud, ita et illud: sed aliquando tantum, Quia est illud, est et illud; aut, Quia est illud, ut sit et illud. Quis enim dixerit eo prorsus modo in mundum a Christo Apo­ stolos missos, quomodo est ipse missus a Patre? Ut enim alias taceam differentias, quas commemorare longum est, missi sunt certe illi cum jam homines essent; missus est autem ipse ut homo esset: et ta­ men superius ait, Sicut me misisti in mundum, et ego misi eos in mundum; tanquam diceret, Quia misisti me, misi eos. Ita et hoc loco, Dilexisti eos, inquit, sicut me dilexisti; quod nihil aliud est quam, Dilexisti eos, quoniam et me dile­ xisti. Non enim membra Filii non diligeret qui dili­ git Filium; aut alia causa est diligendi membra ejus, nisi quia diligit eum. Sed diligit Filium secundum divinitatem, quia genuit illum æqualem sibi; diligit eum etiam secundum id quod homo est, quia ipsum unigenitum Verbum caro factum est, et propter Ver­ bum est ei chara Verbi caro: nos autem diligit, quoniam sumus ejus membra quem diligit; et hoc ut essemus, propter hoc nos dilexit antequam essemus.

Therefore there follows also what he says: "And you have loved them as you have also loved me." For in the Son the Father loves us, because in him he chose us before the foundation of the world. For he who loves the Only-begotten surely loves also his members, whom he has adopted into him through him. Nor are we therefore equal to the only-begotten Son, through whom we were created and re-created, because it was said, "You have loved them as you have also loved me." For he who says, "As this, so that," does not always signify equality; but sometimes only "Because this is, that also is," or "Because this is, therefore that is too." For who would say that the apostles were sent into the world by Christ in exactly the same way as he was sent by the Father? For, to say nothing of other differences which it would take long to list, they certainly were sent when they were already men; but he was sent in order to be man; and yet he said above, "As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world," as if he said, "Because you sent me, I have sent them." So in this place too: "You have loved them," he says, "as you have loved me"; which is nothing other than: You have loved them because you have also loved me. For he who loves the Son could not fail to love the Son's members; nor is there any other reason for loving his members but that he loves him. But he loves the Son according to his divinity, because he begot him equal to himself; he loves him also according to what he is as man, because the only-begotten Word himself became flesh, and for the sake of the Word the Word's flesh is dear to him; but us he loves because we are the members of him whom he loves; and that we might be so, he loved us before we existed.

John 17:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (allusion, high confidence) · John 17:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Father loves believers because they are members of the Son he loves; "as" here means "because", not equality.

  • John 17:23 and 17:18 are quoted; Eph 1:4 and John 1:14 are in view.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): scquitut' etiam illud quod hit → sequitur etiam illud quod ait; dihgit → diligit; Nec idco pares → Nec ideo pares; recreati I sumus → recreati sumus; Dilexisti eob → Dilexisti eos; nim sem → enim sem; qui didit, SicnE illud, ita ct illud → qui dicit, Sicut illud, ita et illud; est ei iliud; ant → est et illud; aut; Quis ehim dixcrit → Quis enim dixerit; a Patte? → a Patre?; certe Uti cum → certe illi cum; et rgo misi → et ego misi; Qnia misisti → Quia misisti; Dilexitii eos → Dilexisti eos; nihil nliud → nihil aliud; Dilexisti cos, quoniam et ine → Dilexisti eos, quoniam et me; causa cst dilrgendi → causa est diligendi; nisi quia diligit cum → nisi quia diligit eum; divinitatcm, quia gcnuit ilium æqualem sib! → divinitatem, quia genuit illum æqualem sibi; hum est ei chara → bum est ei chara; quoniain sumus ejus membra qucm → quoniam sumus ejus membra quem.

Topics: Trinity

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.5 (PL 35:1923; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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110.6PL 35:1923

Quapropter incomprehensibilis est dilectio qua diligit Deus, neque mutabilis. Non enim ex quo ei reconciliati sumus per sanguinem Filii ejus, nos coe­ pit diligere; sed ante mundi constitutionem dilexit nos, ut cum ejus Unigenito etiam nos filii ejus esse­ mus, priusquam omnino aliquid essemus. Quod ergo reconciliati sumus Deo per mortem Filii ejus, non sic audiatur, non sic accipiatur, quasi ideo nos recon­ ciliaverit ei Filius, ut jam inciperet amare quos ode­ rat; sicut reconciliatur inimicus inimico, ut deinde sint amici, et invicem diligant qui oderant invicem: sed jam nos diligenti reconciliati sumus ei, cum quo propter peccatum inimicitias habebamus. Quod utrum verum dicam, attestetur Apostolus: Commendat, inquit, dilectionem suam Deus in nobis, quoniam cum adhuc peccatores essemus, Christus pro nobis mortuus est. Habebat itaque ille erga nos cha­ ritatem, etiam cum inimicitias adversum eum exer­ centes operaremur iniquitatem: et tamen ei verissime dictum est, Odisti, Domine, omnes qui operantur ini­ quitatem. Proinde miro et divino mo­ do et quando nos oderat, diligebat: oderat enim nos, quales ipse non fecerat; et quia iniquitas nostra opus ejus non omni ex parte consumpserat, noverat simul in unoquoque nostrum et odisse quod feceramus, et amare quod fecerat. Et hoc quidem in omnibus intelligi potest de illo, cui veraciter dicitur, Nihil odisti eorum quæ fecisti. Non enim quodcumque odisset esse voluisset, aut omnino esset quod omnipotens esse noluisset, nisi et in eo quod odit esset etiam quod amaret. Merito quippe odit, et velut a regula suæ artis alienum improbat vitium: amat tamen suum etiam in vitiosis vel sanatione be­ neficium, vel damnatione judicium. Ita Deus, et ni­ hil odit eorum quæ fecit: naturarum enim, non vi­ tiorum conditor, mala quæ odit, ipse non fecit; et de malis eisdem vel sanando ea per misericordiam, vel ordinando per judicium, bona sunt ipsa quæ facit. Cum igitur eorum quæ fecit nihil oderit, quis digne possit eloqui, quantum diligat membra Unigeniti sui; et quanto amplius ipsum Unigenitum, in quo condita sunt omnia visibilia et invisibilia, quæ in suis gene­ ribus ordinata ordinatissime diligit? Membra quippe Unigeniti ad Angelorum sanctorum æqualitatem gra­ tiæ suæ largitate perducit: Unigenitus autem cum sit Dominus omnium, procul dubio est Dominus Ange­ lorum, natura qua Deus est, non Angelis, sed Patri potius æqualis; gratia vero qua homo est, quomodo non excedit excellentiam cujuslibet angeli, cum sit una persona carnis et Verbi?

Therefore the love with which God loves is incomprehensible and unchangeable. For he did not begin to love us from the time we were reconciled to him through the blood of his Son; but he loved us before the foundation of the world, so that we too might be his sons together with his Only-begotten, before we were anything at all. So let it not be heard or taken, when we say we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, as though the Son reconciled us to him so that he might now begin to love those he had hated, as an enemy is reconciled to an enemy, so that they may then be friends and love each other who hated each other; but we were reconciled to him who already loved us, with whom we were at enmity because of sin. Let the Apostle bear witness whether I speak the truth: "God commends his love toward us," he says, "in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." So he had love toward us even when, practicing enmity against him, we were working iniquity; and yet it was most truly said to him, "You hate, O Lord, all who work iniquity." So in a wonderful and divine way he loved us even when he hated us: for he hated us as we were, such as he had not made us; and because our iniquity had not wholly consumed his work, he knew how, at the same time, in each one of us, to hate what we had made and to love what he had made. And this can indeed be understood in all things of him to whom it is truly said, "You hate nothing of the things you have made." For he would not have willed anything to exist that he hated, nor would anything at all exist which the Almighty had not willed to exist, unless in what he hates there were also something he loved. For rightly he hates vice and rejects it as foreign to the rule of his art; yet even in the vicious he loves what is his own, either his kindness in healing them or his judgment in condemning them. So God hates nothing of the things he made: for being the maker of natures, not of vices, he did not make the evils he hates; and out of those same evils, whether by healing them through mercy or by ordering them through judgment, the things he makes are good. Since, then, he hates nothing of the things he made, who could worthily say how much he loves the members of his Only-begotten; and how much more the Only-begotten himself, in whom all things visible and invisible were created, which, ordered in their kinds, he loves in most perfect order? For the members of the Only-begotten he brings, by the bounty of his grace, to equality with the holy angels; but the Only-begotten, since he is Lord of all, is beyond doubt Lord of the angels: by the nature by which he is God he is equal not to the angels but to the Father; and by the grace by which he is man, how does he not surpass the excellence of any angel, since flesh and Word are one person?

Rom 5:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 1:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 5:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 5:5 (5:6 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 20:36 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: God's love is unchanging: he loved us before the world and before reconciliation, hating our sin while loving his own work in us.

  • Rom 5:8, Ps 5:5 (LXX 5:6), and Wis 11:24 are quoted; Rom 5:10, Eph 1:4–5, Col 1:16, and Luke 20:36 are in view. The teaching that reconciliation did not change God's love is translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray mark): neqnc mutabilis → neque mutabilis; reconcifiati → reconciliati; cssemus → essemus; ciliaveril → ciliaverit; cum adhue peccatores essentus, Christus pto nobis mortuus eat → cum adhuc peccatores essemus, Christus pro nobis mortuus est; Proindre miro → Proinde miro; nos Oderat → nos oderat; oderat cnim nos → oderat enim nos; opus djus non omni ex patw → opus ejus non omni ex parte; nostrum 6t odisse → nostrum et odisse; Et boc quidem → Et hoc quidem; in eo quod odit; esset → in eo quod odit esset; volut a regula suæ ariis → velut a regula suæ artis; ha Dcus, et ni → Ita Deus, et ni; odH eorum → odit eorum; Cum igitur eofum → Cum igitur eorum; et Invisibilia → et invisibilia; largitatc → largitate; sci Patri → sed Patri; eujuslibet → cujuslibet; cum sit nna persona → cum sit una persona.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 11:24 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.6 (PL 35:1923; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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110.7PL 35:1923–1925

Quanquam non desint qui etiam nos Angelis præferant; quia pro nobis, inquiunt, non pro Angelis mortuus est Christus. Id quid est aliud, quam de im­ pietate velle gloriari? Etenim Christus, sicut ait Apostolus, juxta tempus pro impiis mortuus est. Hic ergo non meritum nostrum, sed Dei misericordia commendatur. Nam quale est ideo se velle laudari, quia vitio suo tam detestabiliter aegrotavit, ut non posset aliter quam medici morte sanari? Non est haec nostrorum gloria meritorum, sed medicina morborum. An ideo nos praeferimus Angelis, quia cum et angeli peccaverint, nihil eis tale unde sana­ rentur impensum est? Quasi aliquid eis vel parvum fuerit impensum, et nobis amplius. Quod si et hoc factum esset, adhuc quaeri posset utrum ideo fuisset factum, quod steteramus excellentius, an quod de­ speratius jacebamus. Cum vero noverimus bonorum omnium Creatorem reparandis angelis malis nihil gratiae contulisse, cur non potius intelligimus quod tanto damnabilior eorum judicata sit culpa, quanto erat natura sublimior? Tanto enim minus quam nos peccare debuerunt, quanto meliores nobis fuerunt. Nunc autem in offendendo Creatorem tanto exsecrabilius beneficio ejus ingrati exstiterunt, quanto bene­ ficentius sunt creati; nec eis satis fuit desertores es­ se illius, nisi et nostri fierent deceptores. Hoc itaque nobis magnum bonum conferet, qui dilexit nos sicut dilexit Christum, ut propter ipsum cujus membra nos esse voluit, æquales Angelis sanctis simus, quibus et natura inferiores conditi sumus, et peccato indigniores facti, qui eorum fieri qualescum­ que socii deberemus.

Yet there are some who even rank us above the angels, because, they say, Christ died for us, not for the angels. What is this but wishing to glory in ungodliness? For Christ, as the Apostle says, "at the appointed time died for the ungodly." Here, then, it is not our merit but God's mercy that is commended. For what is it to wish to be praised because one was so detestably sick through one's own fault that one could not be healed except by the death of the physician? This is not the glory of our merits but the medicine of our diseases. Or do we rank ourselves above the angels because, though angels too sinned, nothing of the kind was spent on them by which they might be healed? As if something, however small, had been spent on them and more on us! But even if this had been done, it could still be asked whether it had been done because we had stood more excellently, or because we lay more desperately. But since we know that the Creator of all good things bestowed no grace for restoring the evil angels, why do we not rather understand that their guilt was judged the more damnable the more sublime their nature was? For they ought to have sinned so much less than we as they were better than we. But in offending the Creator they showed themselves the more execrably ungrateful for his kindness the more kindly they had been created; nor was it enough for them to desert him unless they also became our deceivers. So he who loved us as he loved Christ will confer this great good on us: that, for the sake of him whose members he willed us to be, we may be equal to the holy angels, to whom we were created inferior by nature and became, by sin, too unworthy to be their companions of any kind.

Rom 5:6 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Pet 2:4 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 17:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 20:36 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: That Christ died for humans and not for fallen angels shows God's mercy, not human superiority; by grace, as members of Christ, we will be made equal to the holy angels.

  • Rom 5:6 is quoted; John 17:23, 2 Pet 2:4, and Luke 20:36 are in view. The last clause (qui eorum fieri qualescumque socii deberemus) is translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip (broken word)): Quanqnam → Quanquam; quin pro nobis → quia pro nobis; Hie ergo → Hic ergo; mise. ricordia → misericordia; quia eum et angeli → quia cum et angeli; nihil eis tile unde → nihil eis tale unde; aJiqnid → aliquid; Steteramus → steteramus; deburunt → debuerunt; Nunce autem → Nunc autem; essecra- Lilius → exsecrabilius; sunt cresti → sunt creati; nostri flerent → nostri fierent; tit propter ipsUm Cujus membra nos esse Voluit → ut propter ipsum cujus membra nos esse voluit; sanclis → sanctis; natuta → natura; neri → fieri; debctemus → deberemus.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Tract. Ev. Jo. 110.7 (PL 35:1923–1925; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-tractatus-ioannem/110-1/#p-110-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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