Literal Commentary on Genesis 10.13–10.24
Latin text: Zycha, CSEL 28.1 (Latin text: Joseph Zycha, De Genesi ad litteram (CSEL 28.1, 1894), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 10
10.13CSEL 28.1:311–312
Secundum hanc sententiam nec rem absurdissimam dicimus, quod caro sine anima concupiscat, nec Manichaeis consentimus, qui cum uiderent non posse carnem sine anima concupiscere aliam quandam animam suam ex alia natura deo contraria carnem habere putauerunt, unde concupiscat aduersus spiritum. nec alicui animae non esse necessariam Christi gratiam dicere cogimur, cum dicitur nobis: quid meruit anima infantis, unde illi perniciosum sit non percepto christiani baptismi sacramento exire de corpore, si nec proprium aliquod peccatum commisit nec ex illa est, quae in Adam prima peccauit? Non enim de pueris grandiusculis agimus, quibus quidem peccatum proprium nolunt adtribuere quidam nisi ab anni quarti decimi articulo, cum pubescere coeperint. quod merito crederemus, si nulla essent peccata, nisi quae membris genitalibus admittuntur. quis uero audeat adfirmare furta, mendacia, periuria non esse peccata, nisi qui -talia uult inpune committere? at his plena est puerilis aetas, quamuis in eis non ita ut in maioribus punienda uideantur, quod sperentur annis accedentibus, quibus ratio conualescat, posse praecepta salutaria melius intellegere eisque libentius oboedire. sed nunc de pueris non agimus, quorum carnalem ac puerilem uoluntatem uel corporis uel animi si ueritas et aequitas obpugnauerit, quibus possunt uiribus dictorum atque factorum repugnant. pro qua? nisi pro falsitate et iniquitate, quae suffragari uidebitur eis uel ad percipienda, quae alliciunt, uel ad uitanda, quae offendunt. de infantibus loquimur, non quia nascuntur plerumque de adulteris; neque enim in prauis moribus naturae dona culpanda sunt, aut propterea non debuerunt germinare frumenta, quod ea seuit furantis manus. aut uero ipsis parentibus obfutura sit iniquitas sua, si se ad deum conuertendo correxerint? quanto minus filiis, si recte uixerint!
According to this view we neither say the utterly absurd thing that the flesh desires without the soul, nor agree with the Manichees, who, seeing that the flesh cannot desire without a soul, thought that the flesh has some other soul of its own from another nature opposed to God, from which it desires against the spirit. Nor are we forced to say that Christ's grace is not necessary for some soul, when it is said to us: “What has the soul of an infant deserved, that it should be harmful to it to leave the body without having received the sacrament of Christian baptism, if it has neither committed any sin of its own nor comes from that soul which first sinned in Adam?” For we are not dealing with older boys, to whom some indeed are unwilling to attribute sin of their own except from the point of the fourteenth year, when they begin to reach puberty. We would rightly believe this if there were no sins except those committed with the genital members. But who would dare to affirm that thefts, lies, and perjuries are not sins, except one who wants to commit such things with impunity? Yet boyhood is full of them, although in them they do not seem to be punished as in older people, because it is hoped that as years come on, in which reason grows strong, they can better understand wholesome precepts and more willingly obey them. But we are not dealing now with boys, who, if truth and justice oppose their carnal and childish will, whether of body or of mind, resist with what strength of words and deeds they can; for what? Only for falsehood and wickedness, which will seem to them to support either the getting of what entices or the avoiding of what offends. We are speaking of infants; not because they are often born of adulterers; for the gifts of nature are not to be blamed in depraved morals, nor ought grain not to have sprouted because a thief's hand sowed it. Or will their wickedness harm the parents themselves, if they amend by turning to God? How much less the children, if they live rightly!
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Summary: This view avoids both absurdity and Manichaeism; the question concerns infants, not older children, who sin in many ways, nor the sins of parents, which do not harm children.
- The Manichees are described from Augustine's standpoint.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (digitization slip (OCR letters); stray capital in the digital text): salutaria Melius → salutaria melius; suffragan uidebitur → suffragari uidebitur.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.13 (CSEL 28.1:311–312; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.14CSEL 28.1:312–314
Sed illa aetas uehementem quaestionem monet, cuius anima, cum peccatum nullum habeat de proprio uoluntatis arbitrio, quaeritur quomodo possit iustificari per illius unius hominis oboedientiam, si per alterius unius inoboedientiam rea non est. haec uox eorum est, qui animas hominum ex hominibus parentibus creatas uolunt non quidem nisi a creatore deo, sed sicut etiam corpora. non enim et haec parentes creant, ac non ille, qui ait: priusquam te formarem in utero, noui te. Quibus respondetur animas quidem corporibus hominum deum nouas singillatim dare ad hoc, ut in carne peccati de originali peccato ueniente recte uiuendo carnalesque concupiscentias sub dei gratia subigendo meritum conparent, quo cum ipso corpore in melius transferantur tempore resurrectionis et in Christo in aeternum cum angelis uiuant; sed necesse esse, ut, cum membris terrenis atque mortalibus maximeque de peccati carne propagatis miro modo coaptantur, ut ea primitus uiuificare, post etiam aetatis accessu regere possint, tamquam obliuione praegrauentur. quae si esset quodammodo indigestibilis, creatori tribueretur; cum uero paulatim ab huius obliuionis torpore anima resipiscens possit conuerti ad deum suum eiusque misericordiam et ueritatem primo ipsa pietate conuersionis, deinde seruandi praecepti eius perseuerantia promereri, quid ei obest illo uelut somno paululum inmergi, unde paulatim euigilans in lucem intellegentiae, propter quam rationalis anima facta est, potest per uoluntatem bonam eligere uitam bonam? quod quidem non poterit, nisi adiuuerit gratia dei per mediatorem. hoc si neglexerit homo, non tantum secundum carnem, uerum etiam secundum spiritum erit Adam; si autem curauerit, erit Adam secundum carnem tantummodo; secundum spiritum autem recte uiuens illud etiam, quod de Adam culpabile tractum est, mundatum a labe peccati recipere merebitur illa conmutatione, quam sanctis resurrectio pollicetur. Sed antequam per aetatem possit secundum spiritum uiuere, necessarium habet mediatoris sacramentum, ut, quod per eius fidem nondum potest, per eorum, qui eum diligunt, fiat. eius enim sacramento soluitur etiam in aetate infantili originalis poena peccati, a quo nisi adiutus etiam iuuenis carnalem concupiscentiam non domabit nec ea subiugata aeternae uitae meritum adprehendet nisi eius dono, quem promereri studet. ideo uiuus oportet etiam infans baptizetur, ne obsit animae societas carnis peccati, qua participata fit, ut nihil possit anima infantis secundum spiritum sapere. ipsa quippe adfectio grauat etiam corpore exutam, nisi, cum in corpore est, per unicum sacrificium ueri sacerdotis expietur.
But that age raises a weighty question: since the soul of an infant has no sin from its own choice of will, it is asked how it can be justified through the obedience of that one man, if it is not guilty through the disobedience of the other one. This is the voice of those who hold that human souls are created from human parents, not indeed except by God the Creator, but in the way bodies are too. For parents do not create these either, but he who says, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.” To them it is answered that God gives new souls one by one to human bodies for this purpose: that in the flesh of sin, coming from original sin, by living rightly and subduing carnal desires under God's grace, they may acquire merit, by which, together with the body itself, they may be transferred to a better state at the time of the resurrection and live in Christ for ever with the angels; but that it is necessary that, when they are wonderfully fitted to earthly and mortal members, and above all members propagated from the flesh of sin, so that they may first give them life and later, as age comes on, also rule them, they are weighed down, as it were, by forgetfulness. If this forgetfulness were in some way beyond digesting, it would be attributed to the Creator; but since the soul, gradually recovering from the torpor of this forgetfulness, can turn to its God and deserve his mercy and truth, first by the very piety of its turning and then by perseverance in keeping his command, what harm is it to it to be plunged for a little while in that sleep, as it were, from which, gradually waking into the light of understanding, for which the rational soul was made, it can choose a good life by a good will? This indeed it will not be able to do unless God's grace helps it through the mediator. If a man neglects this, he will be Adam not only according to the flesh but also according to the spirit; but if he takes care of it, he will be Adam only according to the flesh; and, living rightly according to the spirit, he will deserve to receive back, cleansed from the stain of sin, even what was guiltily drawn from Adam, by that change which the resurrection promises to the saints. But before, by reason of age, it can live according to the spirit, it needs the sacrament of the mediator, so that what it cannot yet do through its own faith may be done through the faith of those who love it. For by his sacrament the penalty of original sin is loosed even in infancy; and unless helped by him, even a young man will not tame carnal desire, nor, having subdued it, lay hold of the merit of eternal life except by the gift of him whom he strives to deserve. Therefore even an infant ought to be baptized while living, so that fellowship with the flesh of sin may not harm the soul, a fellowship by sharing in which it comes about that the infant's soul can think nothing according to the spirit. For this very condition weighs it down even when stripped of the body, unless, while it is in the body, it is expiated by the one sacrifice of the true priest.
Jer 1:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 10:12 (allusion, medium confidence) · 1 Tim 2:5 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Those who hold that God gives new souls answer that souls joined to the flesh of sin are weighed down and need grace; infants need the sacrament of baptism, by which the penalty of original sin is loosed.
- Jer 1:5; Heb 10:12, 14 (the one sacrifice). The answer here is put in the mouth of those who hold that God creates each soul (creationism); Augustine is weighing both views.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (digitization slip (OCR letter)): deum nonas → deum nouas; mandatum a labe → mundatum a labe.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.14 (CSEL 28.1:312–314; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.15CSEL 28.1:314–315
Quid ergo, ait aliquis, si hoc non curauerint sui uel infidelitate uel neglegentia? hoc quidem etiam de maioribus dici potest. possunt enim uel repente emori uel apud eos aegrotare, ubi eis, quo baptizentur, nemo subueniat. sed illi, inquit, habent etiam propria peccata, quorum indigeant remissione, quae si dimissa non fuerint, nemo eos recte dicet inmerito plecti pro his, quae in sua uita sua uoluntate commiserint; illa uero anima, cui quaedam contagio tracta de carne peccati, si de illa prima anima peccatrice non creata est, nullo modo inputari potest - neque enim ullo peccato, sed natura, qua sic facta est, et deo dante carni data est — cur alienabitur ab aeterna uita, si baptizando infanti nemo subuenerit? an forte nihil oberit? quid ergo prodest ei, cui subuenitur, si nihil obest, cui non subuenitur? Hic pro sua causa quid respondere possint, qui secundum scripturas sanctas, uel quod apud eas inueniatur uel quod eis non aduersetur, conantur adserere animas nouas non de parentibus tractas corporibus dari, nondum me audisse uel uspiam legisse fateor. non ideo sane absentium negotium deserendum est, si quid mihi, quo adiuuari uideatur, occurrerit. possunt enim adhuc dicere deum praescium, quomodo quaeque anima uictura esset, si diutius in corpore uiueret, ei procurare lauacri salutaris ministrationem, cuius futuram fuisse praeuidet pietatem, cum ad annos fidei capaces ueniret, si nunc eum oporteret propter aliquam occultam causam morte praeueniri. occultum itaque est atque ab humano uel certe ab ingenio meo remotissimum, cur nascatur infans uel continuo uel cito moriturus; sed hoc ita occultum est, ut neutros adiuuet, de quorum nunc sententiis disceptamus. illa enim explosa opinione, qua putantur animae pro ante actae uitae meritis in corpora detrudi, ut ea citius solui meruisse uideatur, quae non multa peccauerat, ne contradicamus apostolo nihil nondum natos boni uel mali egisse testanti, nec illi, qui animae traducem adfirmant, possunt pro se ostendere, cur aliorum mors acceleretur, retardetur aliorum, nec qui eas dari nouas uolunt singulis singulas. occulta ergo ista causa est et utrisque pariter, quantum existimo, nec suffragatur nec aduersatur.
“What then,” someone says, “if their own people have not seen to this, through unbelief or neglect?” This indeed can be said of older people too. For they may either die suddenly or fall ill among people where no one helps them to be baptized. “But they,” he says, “also have sins of their own, which need remission, and if these have not been forgiven, no one will rightly say that they are punished undeservedly for what they committed in their own life by their own will; but that soul, to which a certain contagion has been drawn from the flesh of sin, if it was not created from that first sinful soul, can in no way be held guilty (for it was given to the flesh not by any sin, but by the nature in which it was so made, and by God's giving); why will it be estranged from eternal life if no one has helped by baptizing the infant? Or perhaps it will do no harm? What good is it, then, to the one who is helped, if it does no harm to the one who is not helped?” What those can answer here for their cause who try to assert, according to the holy Scriptures, either from what is found in them or from what is not contrary to them, that new souls not drawn from parents are given to bodies, I confess I have not yet heard or read anywhere. Yet the case of the absent is not to be abandoned for that reason, if anything occurs to me by which it may seem to be helped. For they can still say that God, foreknowing how each soul would live if it lived longer in the body, provides the administration of the saving washing for the one whose future piety he foresees, had it come to the years capable of faith, if now, for some hidden reason, it had to be overtaken by death. It is hidden, then, and very far from human understanding, or certainly from mine, why an infant is born either to die at once or soon; but this is so hidden that it helps neither of those whose views we are now discussing. For, the opinion having been exploded by which souls are thought to be thrust into bodies according to the merits of a previous life, so that a soul that had not sinned much would seem to have deserved to be released sooner (lest we contradict the apostle, who testifies that those not yet born had done nothing good or evil), neither those who affirm the transmission of the soul can show in their favor why the death of some is hastened and that of others delayed, nor those who hold that new souls are given one by one to each. This cause, then, is hidden, and, as far as I can judge, neither supports nor opposes either side.
Rom 9:11 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: If an infant dies unbaptized, those who hold that new souls are given seem unable to explain its loss; Augustine suggests they might appeal to God's foreknowledge, but finds the cause hidden and decisive for neither side.
- Rom 9:11. The opinion of souls thrust into bodies for prior merits is the Origenist view; Augustine treats it as refuted.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): tracta de. carne → tracta de carne.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.15 (CSEL 28.1:314–315; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.16CSEL 28.1:315–317
Proinde qui de infantium mortibus urgebantur, cur omnibus sit necessarium baptismi sacramentum, quorum animae non ex illa ductae sunt, cuius inoboedientia peccatores constituti sunt multi, cum respondent peccatores quidem omnes constitui secundum carnem, secundum animam uero nonnisi eos, qui eo tempore male uixerunt, quo et bene potuissent, omnes autem animas, hoc est et infantum, ideo habere necessarium baptismi sacramentum, sine quo ex hac uita etiam in illa aetate emigrare non expedit, quia contagio peccati ex carne peccati, qua obruitur anima, cum his inseritur membris, oberit ei post mortem, nisi, cum adhuc in ipsa carne est, sacramento mediatoris expietur, eique diuinitus hoc auxilium procurari, quam deus praesciit, si usque ad annos fidei congruos hic uiueret, pie fuisse uicturam, quam propter aliquid, quod ipse nouit, et nasci uoluit in corpore et cito extraxit e corpore: cum ergo haec respondent, quid eis contradici potest. nisi incertos nos eorum salutis fieri qui hac uita bene gesta in ecclesiae pace defuncti sunt, si non solum secundum id, quod quisque uixit, uerum etiam secundum id, quod uicturus esset, si amplius uiuere potuisset, quisque iudicandus est? quandoquidem ualent apud deum merita mala non tantum praeteritorum, sed futurorum etiam delictorum, a quorum reatu nec mors liberat, si, antequam fuerint commissa, praeuenerit, nec aliquid ei praestitum est, qui raptus est, ne malitia mutaret intellectum eius. deus enim praescius illius futurae malitiae cur non eum secundum ipsam potius iudicaturus est, si moriturae animae infantis, ne obesset ei ex corpore peccati participata conluuies, ideo subueniendum iudicauit per baptismum, quia praesciuit eam, si uiueret, pie fideliterque fuisse uicturam? An ideo potius refelli hoc inuentum potest, quia meum est, illi autem, qui de hac sententia certos se esse confirmant, alia fortasse proferunt uel testimonia scripturarum uel documenta rationum, quibus hanc auferant ambiguitatem uel certe ostendant non esse contra id, quod sentiunt, illud apostoli, quo gratiam, qua salui efficimur, magna intentione commendans dicit: sicut in Adam omnes moriuntur, sic et in Christo omnes uiuificabuntur, et: sicut per inoboedientiam unius hominis peccatores constituti sunt multi, sic per oboedientiam unius hominis iusti constituentur multi, eosdemque multos peccatores non quibusdam exceptis, sed omnes intellegi uolens superius ait de Adam: in quo omnes peccauerunt? unde utique infantum animas non posse secerni et eo, quod dictum est "omnes" et eo, quod eis per baptismum subuenitur non absurde credunt, qui animas ex unius traduce sapiunt, nisi aliqua manifesta et liquida uel ratione quae scripturis sanctis non repugnet, uel earum ipsarum scripturarum auctoritate redarguantur.
So those who were pressed about the deaths of infants, as to why the sacrament of baptism is necessary for all whose souls were not drawn from that one through whose disobedience many were made sinners, answer that all are indeed made sinners according to the flesh, but according to the soul only those who lived badly at a time when they could also have lived well; but that all souls, including those of infants, need the sacrament of baptism, without which it is not good to depart from this life even at that age, because the contagion of sin from the flesh of sin, by which the soul is overwhelmed when it is put into these members, will harm it after death unless, while it is still in that flesh, it is expiated by the sacrament of the mediator; and that this help is provided by God for the soul which God foreknew would have lived piously if it had lived here to the years suited to faith, a soul which for some reason known to him he both willed to be born in a body and soon took out of the body: when they answer this, what can be said against them, except that we would become uncertain of the salvation of those who, after a life well lived, have died in the peace of the church, if each is to be judged not only according to how he lived but also according to how he would have lived if he could have lived longer? For then the evil merits not only of past but also of future sins would count with God, from whose guilt not even death would free a man if it came before they were committed; and nothing would have been granted to him who was taken away lest wickedness change his understanding. For why would God, foreknowing his future wickedness, not rather judge him according to it, if he judged that the soul of an infant about to die should be helped by baptism, lest the filth shared from the body of sin harm it, because he foreknew that, if it lived, it would have lived piously and faithfully? Or can this invention be refuted the more readily because it is mine, while those who affirm that they are certain of this view perhaps bring forward other testimonies of the Scriptures or proofs of reason, by which they may remove this ambiguity, or at least show that what the apostle says does not contradict their view, when, commending with great earnestness the grace by which we are saved, he says, “As in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive,” and, “As through the disobedience of one man many were made sinners, so through the obedience of one man many will be made righteous,” and, wishing these same many sinners to be understood as all, with no exceptions, he says above of Adam, “in whom all sinned”? Hence those who hold that souls come by transmission from one believe, not absurdly, that the souls of infants cannot be set apart, both because it was said “all” and because they are helped by baptism, unless they are refuted by some manifest and clear reason which does not conflict with the holy Scriptures, or by the authority of those Scriptures themselves.
Rom 5:19 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:12 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:22 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: The creationist answer that God provides baptism for infants whose future piety he foresees would make salvation depend on unlived lives; the traducianists' appeal to Rom 5 and infant baptism stands unless refuted by clear reason or Scripture.
- Rom 5:19, 12; 1 Cor 15:22; Wis 4:11 (extrabiblical on this site's definition). The passage concerns original sin and infant baptism; Augustine still leaves the origin of the soul open.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (digitization slip (OCR letters); digitization slip (split and misread word); stray marks in the digital text): emigl-are → emigrare; pro uenerit → praeuenerit; manifesta. et liquida uel ratione* → manifesta et liquida uel ratione.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 4:11 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.16 (CSEL 28.1:315–317; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.17CSEL 28.1:317–319
Iam itaque uideamus, quantum suscepti huius operis necessitas patitur; quale etiam illud sit, quod paulo ante distulimus. scriptum est enim in libro Sapientiae: puer autem eram ingeniosus et sortitus sum animam bonam. et cum essem magis bonus, ueni ad corpus incoinquinatum. cum enim uideatur illos adiuuare hoc testimonium, qui non ex parentibus creari, sed uenire ad corpus uel descendere deo mittente animas dicunt, rursus hoc inpedit eorum sententiam, quod ait: sortitus sum animam bonam, cum procul dubio uel ex uno fonte manare quodammodo tamquam riuulos uel pari natura fieri animas credunt, quas deus mittit in corpora, non autem alias bonas uel magis bonas et alias non bonas uel minus bonas. unde enim bonae aut magis bonae seu non bonae aut minus bonae animae, nisi uel moribus secundum liberum uoluntatis arbitrium uel differentia temperaturae corporum, dum aliae magis, aliae minus grauantur corpore, quod corrumpitur et adgrauat animam? sed neque actio erat aliqua singularum quarumque animarum, qua earum mores discernerentur, antequam uenirent ad corpora, nec ex corpore minus grauante potuit iste dicere animam suam bonam, qui ait: sortitus sum animam bonam. et cum essem magis bonus, ueni ad corpus incoinquinatum. accessisse enim dixit bonitati, qua bonus erat, sortitus uidelicet animam bonam, ut etiam ad corpus incoinquinatum ueniret. aliunde ergo bonus, antequam ueniret ad corpus; sed utique non differentia morum, quia nullum ante uitae gestae meritum, non differentia corporis, quia prius bonus, quam ueniret ad corpus. unde igitur? Hoc autem illis, qui ex traduce animae illius praeuaricatricis animas creari adserunt, quamuis pro eis sonare non uideatur, quod dictum est: ueni ad corpus, tamen in ceteris non incongrue coaptatur, ut, cum dixisset: puer autem eram ingeniosus, id ipsum explicans quibus causis ingeniosus esset, continuo subiungeret: et sortitus sum animam bonam, uidelicet ex paterno ingenio uel corporali temperamento. deinde, cum essem, inquit, magis bonus, ueni ad corpus incoinquinatum: quod si maternum intellegatur, ne hoc quidem, quod dictum est: ueni ad corpus, huic opinioni refragabitur, cum ex anima et corpore paterno uenisse ad maternum corpus accipitur incoinquinatum, uidelicet uel a cruore menstruo — dicuntur enim ex hoc ingenia grauari — uel a contaminatione adulterina. ita et haec uerba libri huius aut magis eis fauent, qui animarum traducem loquuntur, aut, si et isti ea possunt pro se interpretari, inter utrosque alternant.
Now, then, let us see, as far as the needs of this work we have undertaken allow, what that passage is which we put off a little earlier. For it is written in the book of Wisdom: “Now I was a gifted child and received by lot a good soul; and, being rather good, I came into an undefiled body.” For while this testimony seems to help those who say that souls are not created from parents but come or descend into the body at God's sending, it again hinders their view in saying, “I received by lot a good soul,” since they doubtless believe that the souls which God sends into bodies either flow in a way like streams from one fountain or are made of equal nature, not some good or better and others not good or less good. For from where would souls be good or better, or not good or less good, except either from their conduct according to free choice of will or from the difference in the constitution of bodies, some being more and others less weighed down by the body, which is corrupted and weighs down the soul? But neither was there any action of individual souls by which their conduct might be distinguished before they came to bodies, nor could he call his soul good on account of a less burdensome body, who says, “I received by lot a good soul, and, being rather good, I came into an undefiled body.” For he said that, to the goodness by which he was good, having received by lot a good soul, there was added that he also came into an undefiled body. So he was good from some other source before he came to the body; but certainly not by difference of conduct, because there was no merit of a life lived beforehand, nor by difference of body, because he was good before he came to the body. From where, then? But for those who assert that souls are created by transmission from the soul of that transgressor, although the saying “I came into a body” does not seem to sound in their favor, the rest fits not unsuitably: having said, “Now I was a gifted child,” and explaining by what causes he was gifted, he at once added, “and I received by lot a good soul,” namely from his father's gifts or bodily constitution. Then, “being rather good,” he says, “I came into an undefiled body”: and if this is understood as the mother's body, not even the saying “I came into a body” will go against this opinion, since it is taken that he came from the father's soul and body into the mother's undefiled body, undefiled, that is, either by menstrual blood (for it is said that natural gifts are weighed down by this) or by the contamination of adultery. So these words of this book too either favor rather those who speak of the transmission of souls, or, if the others too can interpret them in their favor, they waver between both.
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Summary: Wis 8:19–20 seems at first to favor souls sent from above, but its “good soul by lot” fits poorly with that view and can be read in favor of transmission from the parents.
- Wis 8:19–20 and 9:15 (extrabiblical on this site's definition). The remark about menstrual blood reflects ancient medical belief and is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (words joined and mangled in the digital text): eraming.eniosus → eram ingeniosus.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 8:19 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Wis 8:20 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Wis 9:15 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.17 (CSEL 28.1:317–319; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.18CSEL 28.1:319–321
Quae si de domino secundum humanam, quae a uerbo adsumta est, creaturam uelimus accipere, sunt quidem in eadem circumstantia lectionis, quae illi excellentiae non conueniant; maxime illud, quia idem ipse, qui haec in eodem libro loquitur, aliquanto superius, cum ista uerba, de quibus nunc agimus, diceret, confessus est ex semine uiri se in sanguine coagulatum: a quo nascendi modo utique alienus est uirginis partus, quam non ex uiri semine carnem concepisse Christi nullus ambigit christianus. sed quia et in Psalmis, ubi ait: foderunt manus meas et pedes, dinumerauerunt omnia ossa mea; ipsi uero considerauerunt et conspexerunt me. diuiserunt sibi uestimenta mea et super uestem meam miserunt sortem, quae proprie illi uni congruunt, ibi etiam dixit: deus, deus meus, respice me; ut quid me dereliquisti? longe a salute mea uerba delictorum meorum, quae rursus ei non conueniunt, nisi transfiguranti in se corpus humilitatis nostrae, quoniam membra sumus corporis eius, et quia in ipso euangelio, puer proficiebat aetate et sapientia, si possunt etiam ista, quae circum hanc sententiam in libro sapientiae leguntur, propter humilem formam serui et unitatem corporis ecclesiae cum capite suo, eidem ipsi domino coaptari, quid ingeniosius illo puero, cuius in annis duodecim seniores sapientiam mirabantur? et quid illa anima melius, quae, etiamsi uincant non certando, sed probando, qui animarum traducem adfirmant, non erit consequens, ut etiam ipsa ex illius praeuaricatoris traduce uenisse credenda sit, ne per illius hominis inoboedientiam etiam ipse peccator constituatur, per cuius unius oboedientiam ab illo reatu liberati iusti constituuntur multi? et quid incoinquinatius illo utero uirginis, cuius caro, etiamsi de peccati propagatione uenit, non tamen de peccati propagatione concepit, ut ne ipsum quidem corpus Christi ea lex seuerit in utero Mariae, quae in membris posita corporis mortis repugnat legi mentis? quam sancti patres coniugati refrenantes non quidem nisi quousque licebat in concubitum relaxarunt nec tamen tantummodo quousque licebat eius inpetum pertulerunt. proinde corpus Christi quamuis ex carne feminae adsumtum. est, quae de illa carnis peccati propagine concepta fuerat, tamen, quia non sic in ea conceptum est, quomodo fuerat illa concepta, nec ipsa erat caro peccati, sed similitudo carnis peccati. non enim accepit inde reatum moriendi, qui adparet in motu carnis non uoluntario, quamuis uoluntate superando, aduersus quem spiritus concupiscit, sed accepit inde, non quod contagioni praeuaricationis, sed quod exsoluendae indebitae morti et ostendendae promissae resurrectioni sufficeret: quorum unum nobis ad non timendum, alterum ad sperandum ualeret. Denique si a me quaeratur, unde acceperit animam Iesus Christus, mallem quidem hinc audire meliores atque doctiores; sed tamen pro meo captu libentius responderim "unde Adam quam de Adam". si enim puluis adsumtus ex terra, in qua nullus hominum fuerat operatus, meruit diuinitus animari, quanto magis corpus adsumtum ex carne, in qua itidem nullus hominum fuerat operatus, sortitum est animam bonam, cum illic erigeretur casurus, hic descenderet leuaturus! et fortasse ideo ait: sortitus sum animam bonam — si tamen hoc de illo oportet intellegi — quia solent quae sorte dantur diuinitus dari. aut, quod fidenter dicendum est, ne uel illa anima aliquibus operibus praecedentibus ad tantum apicem subuecta putaretur, ut cum ea uerbum caro fieret et habitaret in nobis, ad auferendam suspicionem praecedentium meritorum sortis nomen accessit.
If we wish to take these words of the Lord according to the human creature which was taken up by the Word, there are indeed things in the same context of the reading which do not befit that excellence; above all this, that the same person who speaks these words in the same book, somewhat earlier than when he said the words we are now discussing, confessed that he was curdled in blood from the seed of a man: a manner of birth from which the virgin's childbearing is certainly foreign, since no Christian doubts that she conceived the flesh of Christ not from the seed of a man. But since in the Psalms too, where it says, “They pierced my hands and feet, they numbered all my bones; they looked and stared at me. They divided my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots,” things which properly fit him alone, it also said there, “God, my God, look upon me; why have you forsaken me? Far from my salvation are the words of my sins,” which again do not befit him, except as one who transfigures into himself the body of our lowliness, since we are members of his body; and since in the gospel itself “the child advanced in age and wisdom”; if these things too which are read around this sentence in the book of Wisdom can be fitted to the same Lord, because of the lowly form of a servant and the unity of the body of the church with its head, what is more gifted than that child, whose wisdom his elders marveled at in his twelfth year? And what is better than that soul, which, even if those who affirm the transmission of souls should win, not by contending but by proving, it will not follow that it too must be believed to have come by transmission from that transgressor, lest he too be made a sinner through that man's disobedience, he through whose one obedience many, freed from that guilt, are made righteous? And what is more undefiled than that virgin's womb, whose flesh, even if it came from the propagation of sin, nevertheless did not conceive from the propagation of sin, so that not even the body of Christ was sown in Mary's womb by that law which, set in the members of the body of death, fights against the law of the mind? This law the holy fathers who were married reined in, relaxing it only as far as was allowed for intercourse, and yet did not merely suffer its impulse as far as was allowed. So the body of Christ, though it was taken from the flesh of a woman who had been conceived from that stock of the flesh of sin, nevertheless, because it was not conceived in her in the way she had been conceived, was not itself flesh of sin, but the likeness of the flesh of sin. For he did not receive from there the guilt of dying, which appears in the involuntary motion of the flesh, though overcome by the will, against which the spirit desires; but he received from there not what would suffice for the contagion of the transgression, but what would suffice for paying an undue death and showing the promised resurrection: of which the one would avail for us not to fear, the other to hope. Finally, if I am asked from where Jesus Christ received his soul, I would rather hear better and more learned men on this; but still, according to my capacity, I would more willingly answer, “from where Adam did, rather than from Adam.” For if the dust taken from the earth, in which no man had worked, deserved to be animated by God, how much more did the body taken from flesh in which likewise no man had worked receive by lot a good soul, since there one was raised up who was going to fall, here one descended who was going to lift up! And perhaps it says, “I received by lot a good soul” (if indeed it ought to be understood of him) because things given by lot are usually given by God. Or, what may be said confidently, lest even that soul be thought to have been raised to so high a summit by some preceding works, so that with it the Word might become flesh and dwell among us, the word “lot” was added to remove any suspicion of preceding merits.
Ps 22:16 (21:17 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:17 (21:18 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:18 (21:19 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 22:1 (21:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 3:21 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 12:27 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:52 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 2:47 (allusion, high confidence) · Phil 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 5:19 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 7:23 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 8:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: If Wis 8:19–20 is applied to Christ, his soul did not come by transmission from Adam, and his flesh, conceived of a virgin without the law of sin, was the likeness of sinful flesh; Augustine would say his soul came from where Adam's came.
- Wis 7:2 and 8:19–20 (extrabiblical on this site's definition); Ps 22:16–18, 1 (21:17–19, 2 LXX); Phil 3:21; 1 Cor 12:27; Luke 2:52, 42–47; Phil 2:7; Rom 5:19; Rom 7:23; Rom 8:3; John 1:14. Mary is described as conceived in the ordinary way; Augustine's view of Christ's sinless conception is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (leaked line number in the digital text; stray mark in the digital text): non 15 certando → non certando; unde Adam* quam → unde Adam quam.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:2 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion); Wis 8:19 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.18 (CSEL 28.1:319–321; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.19CSEL 28.1:321–322
Est in epistula, quae inscribitur ad Hebraeos, locus quidam diligenti consideratione dignissimus. cum enim per Melchisedech, in quo huius rei futurae figura praecesserat, discerneret sacerdotium Christi a sacerdotio Leui, uidete ergo, inquit, qualis hic est, cui et decimam partem Abraham dedit de primitiis patriarcha. et hi quidem, qui de filiis sunt Leui, sacerdotium accipientes mandatum habent a decimis populi secundum legem, hoc est a fratribus suis, quamuis et ipsi ex lumbis Abrahae exierunt. qui autem non est ex genere eorum decimauit Abraham et habentem promissionem benedixit. sine ulla autem contradictione qui minor est a maiore benedicitur. et hic quidem decimas morientes homines accipiunt, ibi autem qui testificatur se uiuere. et, sicut oportet dicere, propter Abraham et Leui accipiens decimam decimatus est; adhuc enim in lumbis patris sui fuit. si ergo etiam hoc ualet ad istam distantiam, quantum praeemineat sacerdotio Leuitico sacerdotium Christi, quod sacerdos Christus per illum praefiguratus est, qui decimauit Abraham, in quo et ipse Leui decimatus est, profecto Christus ab eo non est decimatus. at si propterea decimatus est Leui, quia in lumbis erat Abrahae, propterea non est decimatus Christus, quia non erat in lumbis Abrahae. porro autem, si non secundum animam, sed tantum secundum carnem accipimus Leui fuisse in Abraham, ibi erat et Christus, quia et Christus secundum carnem ex semine est Abrahae; et ipse itaque decimatus est. quid est ergo, quod adfertur pro magna differentia sacerdotii Christi a sacerdotio Leui, quod Leui decimatus est a Melchisedech, cum esset in lumbis Abrahae, ubi et Christus erat, unde pariter decimati sunt, nisi quia necesse est intellegamus secundum aliquem modum ibi Christum non fuisse? quis autem neget eum secundum carnem ibi fuisse? ergo secundum animam ibi non fuit. non est igitur anima Christi de traduce praeuaricationis Adae, alioquin etiam ipsa ibi fuisset.
There is in the letter entitled To the Hebrews a passage most worthy of careful consideration. For when, through Melchizedek, in whom a figure of this future reality had gone before, he was distinguishing the priesthood of Christ from the priesthood of Levi, he says: “See, then, how great this man is, to whom even Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth of the first fruits. And those of the sons of Levi who receive the priesthood have a command to take tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brothers, though these too came out of the loins of Abraham. But he who is not of their descent tithed Abraham and blessed him who had the promise. And without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater. And here mortal men receive tithes, but there one of whom it is testified that he lives. And, as one may say, through Abraham even Levi, who receives tithes, was tithed; for he was still in the loins of his father.” If, then, this too serves to show how far the priesthood of Christ surpasses the Levitical priesthood, that Christ the priest was prefigured by him who tithed Abraham, in whom Levi himself was also tithed, surely Christ was not tithed by him. But if Levi was tithed because he was in the loins of Abraham, Christ was not tithed because he was not in the loins of Abraham. Further, if we take it that Levi was in Abraham not according to the soul but only according to the flesh, Christ too was there, because Christ too according to the flesh is of the seed of Abraham; and so he too was tithed. What then is the meaning of what is brought forward as a great difference between the priesthood of Christ and the priesthood of Levi, that Levi was tithed by Melchizedek when he was in the loins of Abraham, where Christ also was, so that they were tithed equally, unless we must understand that in some way Christ was not there? But who would deny that he was there according to the flesh? Therefore he was not there according to the soul. So the soul of Christ is not from the transmission of Adam's transgression; otherwise it too would have been there.
Heb 7:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:8 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 7:10 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 14:20 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: From Heb 7:4–10 Augustine argues that Christ, unlike Levi, was not tithed in Abraham, and so his soul did not come by transmission from Adam.
- Heb 7:4–10 in Augustine's Latin; Gen 14:20.
Topics: Christology, Church office
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.19 (CSEL 28.1:321–322; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.20CSEL 28.1:322–324
Hic existunt illi, qui traducem animarum defendunt, et dicunt confirmatam esse sententiam suam, si Leui constat etiam secundum animam fuisse in lumbis Abrahae, in quo eum decimauit Melchisedech, ut possit ab eo Christus in ista decimatione discerni: qui quoniam decimatus non est et tamen in lumbis Abrahae secundum carnem fuit, restat, ut secundum animam ibi non fuerit, et ideo sit consequens, ut ibi Leui secundum animam fuerit. hoc ad me non multum adtinet, qui utrorumque conlationem adhuc audire sum paratior quam utrorumlibet iam confirmare sententiam. interim Christi animam ab origine huius traducis per hoc testimonium secernere uolui. inuenient isti, quid eis pro ceteris fortasse respondeant, et dicant, quod etiam me non parum mouet, quamuis nullius hominis anima sit in lumbis patris sui, secundum carnem tamen in lumbis Abrahae constitutum. Leui decimatum et ibi constitutum secundum carnem Christum non decimatum. secundum rationem quippe illam seminalem ibi fuit Leui, qua ratione per concubitum uenturus erat in matrem, secundum quam rationem non ibi erat Christi caro, quamuis secundum ipsam ibi fuerit Mariae caro. quapropter nec Leui nec Christus in lumbis Abrahae secundum animam, secundum carnem uero et Leui et Christus; sed Leui secundum concupiscentiam carnalem, Christus autem secundum solam substantiam corporalem. cum enim sit in semine et uisibilis corpulentia et inuisibilis ratio, utrumque cucurrit ex Abraham uel etiam ex ipso Adam usque ad corpus Mariae, quia et ipsum eo modo conceptum et exortum est. Christus autem uisibilem carnis substantiam de carne uirginis sumsit; ratio uero conceptionis eius non a semine uirili, sed longe aliter ac desuper uenit. proinde secundum hoc, quod de matre accepit, etiam in lumbis Abrahae fuit. Ille est ergo decimatus in Abraham, qui, licet secundum carnem tantum, sic tamen fuit in lumbis eius, quemadmodum in sui patris etiam ipse Abraham, id est qui sic est natus de patre Abraham, quemadmodum de suo patre natus est. Abraham, per legem scilicet in membris repugnantem legi mentis et inuisibilem concupiscentiam, quamuis eam casta et bona iura nuptiarum non sinant ualere, nisi quantum ex ea possunt generi substituendo prospicere. non autem et ille ibi decimatus est, cuius caro inde non feruorem uulneris, sed materiam medicaminis traxit. nam cum ipsa decimatio ad praefigurandam medicinam pertinuerit, illud in Abrahae carne decimabatur, quod curabatur, non illud, unde curabatur. eadem namque caro non Abrahae tantum, sed ipsius primi terrenique hominis simul habebat et uulnus praeuaricationis et medicamentum uulneris: uulnus praeuaricationis in lege membrorum repugnante legi mentis, quae per omnem inde propagatam carnem seminali ratione quasi transcribitur; medicamentum autem uulneris in eo, quod inde sine opere concupiscentiali in sola materie corporali per diuinam conceptionis formationisque rationem de uirgine adsumtum est propter mortis sine iniquitate consortium et sine falsitate resurrectionis exemplum. quapropter quod anima Christi non sit ex traduce animae illius primae praeuaricatricis, puto, quod etiam ipsi, qui animarum traducem defendunt, consentiant — per semen quippe concumbentis patris transfundi etiam semen animae uolunt, a quo genere conceptionis Christus alienus est — et quod in Abraham, si secundum animam fuisset, etiam ipse decimatus esset; non esse autem decimatum scriptura testatur, quae hinc quoque sacerdotium eius a Leuitico sacerdotio distinguit.
Here those who defend the transmission of souls come forward and say that their view is confirmed, if it is clear that Levi was in the loins of Abraham also according to the soul, in whom Melchizedek tithed him, so that Christ can be distinguished from him in this tithing: since Christ was not tithed and yet was in the loins of Abraham according to the flesh, it remains that he was not there according to the soul, and so it follows that Levi was there according to the soul. This does not concern me much, since I am still more ready to hear both sides compared than to confirm the view of either. Meanwhile I wished to set apart Christ's soul from the origin of this transmission by this testimony. The others will perhaps find what to answer them on the rest, and they will say, what moves me too not a little, that although no man's soul is in the loins of his father, still Levi, set in the loins of Abraham according to the flesh, was tithed, and Christ, set there according to the flesh, was not tithed. For Levi was there according to that seminal reason by which he was to come into his mother through intercourse, a reason according to which Christ's flesh was not there, although according to it Mary's flesh was there. Therefore neither Levi nor Christ was in the loins of Abraham according to the soul, but according to the flesh both Levi and Christ; but Levi according to carnal concupiscence, Christ according to bodily substance alone. For since in seed there is both visible bulk and invisible reason, both ran from Abraham, or even from Adam himself, to the body of Mary, because it too was conceived and came forth in that way. But Christ took the visible substance of flesh from the flesh of the virgin; but the reason of his conception came not from a man's seed but in a far different way and from above. So according to what he received from his mother he too was in the loins of Abraham. He, then, was tithed in Abraham who, though only according to the flesh, was in his loins in the way that Abraham himself was in his father's, that is, who was born of his father Abraham in the way that Abraham was born of his own father, namely through the law in the members fighting against the law of the mind and the invisible concupiscence, although the chaste and good laws of marriage do not allow it to prevail except as far as they can provide from it for continuing the race. But he was not tithed there whose flesh drew from there not the fever of the wound but the material of the medicine. For since the tithing itself served to prefigure the medicine, what was tithed in Abraham's flesh was what was being healed, not that by which it was healed. For the same flesh, not only of Abraham but of the first and earthly man himself, had at once both the wound of the transgression and the medicine of the wound: the wound of the transgression in the law of the members fighting against the law of the mind, which is transcribed, as it were, by the seminal reason through all the flesh propagated from there; and the medicine of the wound in that which was taken from there from the virgin, without the work of concupiscence, in bodily material alone, by the divine reason of conception and formation, for the sake of sharing death without iniquity and of an example of resurrection without falsehood. Therefore I think that even those who defend the transmission of souls agree that the soul of Christ is not from the transmission of that first transgressing soul (for they hold that the seed of the soul too is transmitted through the seed of the father in intercourse, a kind of conception from which Christ is foreign), and that if he had been in Abraham according to the soul, he too would have been tithed; but Scripture testifies that he was not tithed, and by this too distinguishes his priesthood from the Levitical priesthood.
Heb 7:9 (allusion, high confidence) · Heb 7:10 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 7:23 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: Traducianists may answer that Levi was in Abraham by seminal reason through concupiscence, Christ only by bodily substance; Augustine, still undecided, holds that both sides agree Christ's soul is not transmitted from Adam.
- Heb 7:9–10; Rom 7:23. Augustine expressly suspends judgment between the views.
Topics: Christology, Marriage
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.20 (CSEL 28.1:322–324; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 28.1, 1894); no public-domain English translation exists, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
10.21CSEL 28.1:324–325
An forte dicent: sicut potuit ibi esse secundum carnem et non decimari, cur non etiam secundum animam sine decimatione potuerit? hic respondetur: quia utique simplicem animae substantiam incrementis augeri corporalibus nec illi putauerunt, qui eam corpus existimant, quorum in parte sunt maxime qui eam ex parentibus creari opinantur. proinde in corporis semine potest esse uis inuisibilis, quae incorporaliter numeros agit, non oculis, sed intellectu discernenda ab ea corpulentia, quae uisu tactuque sentitur. et ipsa quantitas corporis humani, quae utique modulum seminis inconparabiliter excedit, satis ostendit posse inde aliquid sumi, quod non habeat illam uim seminalem, sed tantum corporalem substantiam, quae diuinitus non de propagine concumbentium in carnem Christi adsumta atque formata est. hoc autem de anima quis ualeat adfirmare, quod utrumque habeat, et materiem seminis manifestam et rationem seminis occultam? sed quid laborem in re, quae persuaderi uerbis nemini forsitan potest, nisi tantum ac tale ingenium sit, quod possit loquentis praeuolare conatum nec totum expectare a sermone? breuiter itaque conligam: si potuit et de anima fieri - quod cum de carne diceremus, forsitan intellectum sit — ita est de traduce anima Christi, ut non secum labem praeuaricationis adtraxerit; si autem sine isto reatu non posset inde esse, non est inde. iam de ceterarum animarum aduentu, utrum ex parentibus an desuper sint, uincant qui potuerint. ego adhuc inter utrosque ambigo et moueor aliquando sic, aliquando autem sic, saluo eo dumtaxat, ut uel corpus esse animam uel aliquam corpoream qualitatem siue coaptationem, si ita dicenda est, quam Graeci appovCav uocant, non credam nec quolibet ista garriente me crediturum esse confidam adiuuante deo mentem meam.
Or will they perhaps say: “As he could be there according to the flesh and not be tithed, why could he not be there according to the soul without tithing?” Here the answer is: because surely not even those who think the soul is a body, among whom are chiefly those who think it is created from the parents, have supposed that the simple substance of the soul is increased by bodily growth. So in the seed of the body there can be an invisible force which works numbers in a bodiless way, to be distinguished not by the eyes but by the understanding from that bulk which is perceived by sight and touch. And the very size of the human body, which certainly exceeds incomparably the measure of the seed, shows clearly enough that something can be taken from there which does not have that seminal force but only bodily substance, which was taken up and formed by God into the flesh of Christ, not from the propagation of those who have intercourse. But who could affirm this of the soul, that it has both, the manifest material of the seed and the hidden reason of the seed? But why should I labor over a matter which perhaps cannot be put across in words to anyone, unless his mind is so great and such that it can fly ahead of the speaker's effort and not wait for everything from speech? So I will sum up briefly: if it could happen with the soul too (as perhaps was understood when we spoke of the flesh), the soul of Christ is from transmission in such a way that it did not draw with it the stain of the transgression; but if it could not come from there without that guilt, it does not come from there. As to the coming of the other souls, whether they are from the parents or from above, let those prevail who can. I still waver between both, and am moved sometimes this way and sometimes that; holding fast only to this, that I do not believe the soul to be a body or any bodily quality or arrangement, if it is to be so called, which the Greeks call harmonia, nor, with God helping my mind, am I confident that I will believe it, whoever chatters about such things.
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Summary: Augustine concludes that Christ's soul either came by transmission without the stain of sin or did not come by transmission; for other souls he still wavers, holding only that the soul is not a body or a bodily harmony.
- The digital text gives the Greek word in garbled form (appovCav, marked sic); the reading is evidently ἁρμονίαν, translated by sense. Augustine explicitly leaves open whether souls come from parents or from above.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (digitization slip (OCR letter)): ei parentibus → ex parentibus.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.21 (CSEL 28.1:324–325; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 28.1, 1894); no public-domain English translation exists, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
10.22CSEL 28.1:325–326
Est aliud testimonium non neglegendum, quod pro se possunt proferre, qui uenire desuper animas credunt, dicente ipso domino: quod natum est ex carne, caro est; et quod natum est ex spiritu, spiritus est. quid hac, inquiunt, sententia determinatius non posse ex carne animam nasci? quid est enim aliud anima quam spiritus uitae, creatus utique, non creator? contra quos illi alii: quid enim, inquiunt, nos aliud sentimus, qui dicimus carnem ex carne, animam ex anima? nam ex utroque constat homo, de quo utrumque uenire sentimus, carnem de carne operantis, spiritum de spiritu concupiscentis, ut interim omittatur, quod illud dominus non de carnali generatione, sed de spiritali regeneratione dicebat.
There is another testimony not to be neglected, which those who believe that souls come from above can bring forward in their favor, the Lord himself saying, “What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit.” “What could state more definitely than this,” they say, “that the soul cannot be born of the flesh? For what else is the soul but a spirit of life, created, of course, not creator?” Against them the others say: “What else do we hold, who say flesh from flesh, soul from soul? For man consists of both, and we hold that both come from man: flesh from the flesh of the one who acts, spirit from the spirit of the one who desires”; to say nothing for now of the fact that the Lord was speaking not of carnal generation but of spiritual regeneration.
John 3:6 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: John 3:6 is claimed by those who hold souls come from above, but traducianists read it their way, and in any case it concerns spiritual rebirth.
- John 3:6.
Topics: Baptism
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.22 (CSEL 28.1:325–326; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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10.23CSEL 28.1:326–327
His igitur, quantum pro tempore potuimus, pertractatis omnia paria uel paene paria ex utroque latere rationum testimoniorumque momenta pronuntiarem, nisi eorum sententia, qui animas ex parentibus creari putant, de baptismo paruulorum praeponderaret. de quibus quid eis responderi possit, nondum mihi interim occurrit; si quid forte postea deus dederit, si quam etiam scribendi concesserit facultatem studiosis talium, non grauabor. nunc tamen non esse contemnendum testimonium paruulorum, ut quasi refelli, si ueritas contra est, neglegatur, ante denuntio. aut enim de hac re nihil quaerendum est, ut sufficiat fidei nostrae scire nos, quo pie uiuendo - uenturi sumus, etsi nesciamus, unde uenerimus; aut, si non inpudenter aestuat anima rationalis etiam hoc nosse de se ipsa, absit peruicacia contendendi, adsit diligentia requirendi, humilitas petendi, perseuerantia pulsandi, ut, si nobis hoc expedire nouit, qui melius quam nos quid nobis expediat utique nouit, det etiam hoc, qui dat bona data filiis suis. consuetudo tamen matris ecclesiae in baptizandis paruulis nequaquam spernenda est neque ullo modo superflua deputanda nec omnino credenda, nisi apostolica esset traditio. habet enim et illa parua aetas magnum testimonii pondus, quae prima pro Christo meruit sanguinem fundere.
Having treated these things, then, as far as we could for the present, I would declare all the weights of reasons and testimonies on either side equal or almost equal, were it not that the view of those who think souls are created from the parents outweighs the other on the baptism of little children. What can be answered to them about this has not yet occurred to me for the present; if God perhaps grants something later, and if he grants the ability of writing to those devoted to such matters, I will not be reluctant. Now, however, I declare beforehand that the testimony of little children is not to be despised, so as to be neglected as if refuted, if the truth is against it. For either nothing is to be asked about this matter, so that it is enough for our faith to know where we are going by living piously, even if we do not know where we have come from; or, if the rational soul is not shamelessly eager to know this too about itself, let there be no stubbornness in contending, but diligence in seeking, humility in asking, perseverance in knocking; so that, if he knows this is good for us, who certainly knows better than we what is good for us, he who gives good gifts to his children may give this too. Yet the custom of mother church in baptizing little children is by no means to be despised, nor in any way to be thought superfluous, nor would it be believed at all unless it were an apostolic tradition. For that little age too has great weight of testimony, which was the first to deserve to shed its blood for Christ.
Matt 7:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 7:11 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 2:16 (allusion, high confidence)
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Summary: The arguments are nearly balanced except that infant baptism weighs in favor of the transmission of souls; the church's custom of baptizing infants is an apostolic tradition not to be despised.
- Matt 7:7–11; Matt 2:16 (the infants killed at Bethlehem, “the first to shed blood for Christ”). Augustine still does not decide the question.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): si. quam → si quam.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.23 (CSEL 28.1:326–327; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Zycha (CSEL 28.1, 1894); no public-domain English translation exists, so each batch was re-read against the Latin.
10.24CSEL 28.1:327–328
Admoneo sane, quantum ualeam, si quos ista praeoccupauit opinio, ut animas credant ex parentibus propagari, quantum possunt se ipsos considerent et interim sapiant corpora non esse animas suas. nulla enim propior natura est, qua diligenter inspecta possit etiam deus, qui supra omnem creaturam suam incommutabilis permanet, incorporaliter cogitari, quam ea, quae ad ipsius imaginem facta est, et nihil uicinius aut fortasse nihil tam consequens, quam ut credito, quod anima corpus sit, etiam deus corpus esse credatur. propter hoc enim corporalibus adsuefacti et adfecti sensibus nolunt animam credere aliud esse quam corpus, ne, si corpus non fuerit, nihil sit, ac per hoc tanto magis timent etiam de deo credere, quod corpus non sit, quanto magis timent deum credere nihil esse. ita enim feruntur in phantasias uel phantasmata imaginum, quae cogitatio de corporibus uersat, ut his subtractis tamquam per inane pereundum sit reformident. ita necesse est, ut et iustitiam et sapientiam pingant quodammodo in cordibus suis cum formis et coloribus, quas non possunt incorporeas cogitare, nec tamen dicunt, quando iustitia uel sapientia mouentur, ut uel laudent eas uel secundum eas aliquid agant, quem colorem, quam staturam, quae liniamenta [uel quales formas] conspexerint. sed de his alias et multa iam diximus et, si deus uoluerit, ubi res uidebitur postulare, dicemus. nunc quod dicere coeperamus, si de traduce animarum a parentibus uel non dubitant quidam, quod ita sit, uel dubitant, an ita sit, animam tamen corpus esse non audeant credere aut dicere, maxime propter quod dixi, ne deum quoque ipsum nihil aliud opinentur esse quam corpus, etsi excellentissimum, etsi naturae cuiusdam propriae cetera supergredientis, corpus tamen.
I do indeed warn, as far as I can, any who have been taken up by this opinion, so as to believe that souls are propagated from parents, to consider themselves as much as they can and meanwhile to understand that their souls are not bodies. For there is no nearer nature, by careful inspection of which even God, who remains unchangeable above all his creation, can be thought of in a bodiless way, than that which was made to his image; and nothing is closer, or perhaps nothing follows so readily, than that, if the soul is believed to be a body, God too should be believed to be a body. For this is why those accustomed to and affected by the bodily senses are unwilling to believe that the soul is anything other than a body, lest, if it were not a body, it would be nothing; and therefore they fear all the more to believe that God is not a body, the more they fear to believe that God is nothing. For they are so carried away into fancies or phantoms of images, which thought about bodies turns over, that, when these are taken away, they dread perishing as though through emptiness. So they must paint, as it were, even justice and wisdom in their hearts with forms and colors, since they cannot think of them as bodiless; and yet, when they are moved by justice or wisdom, so as either to praise them or to do something according to them, they do not say what color, what height, what features they have seen. But of these things we have already said much elsewhere and, if God wills, we will speak where the matter seems to require it. Now, as we had begun to say, if some either do not doubt that souls come by transmission from parents, or doubt whether it is so, let them not dare to believe or say that the soul is a body, above all for the reason I gave, lest they think that God himself too is nothing other than a body, even if a most excellent one, even if of a nature of its own surpassing the rest, but still a body.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Gen 1:27 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine warns traducianists not to think the soul a body, since that leads to thinking God a body; justice and wisdom too are bodiless.
- The editor deletes the words “or what kind of forms” (uel quales formas), printed in square brackets.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Gen. litt. 10.24 (CSEL 28.1:327–328; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-genesi-litteram/10-13/#p-10-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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