Letters 166.18–166.28

Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).

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Chapter 166

166.18CSEL 44:571–573

Ego quidem non de ingeniis sed saltem de poenis paruulorum, quas in hac uita patiuntur, dixi aliquid in libris illis de libero arbitrio. quod quale sit et cur mihi in ista, quam habemus in manibus, quaestione non sufficiat, intimabo et eum ipsum de tertio libro locum excerptum his litteris inseram. nam ita se habet: De cruciatibus autem corporis, quibus affliguntur paruuli, quorum per aetatem nulla peccata sunt, si animae, quibus animantur, non prius quam ipsi homines esse coeperunt, maior querela et quasi misericors deponi solet. cum dicitur: Quid mali fecerunt, ut ista paterentur? quasi possit esse innocentiae meritum, antequam quisque nocere aliquid possit! cum autem boni aliquid operatur deus in emendatione maiorum, cum paruulorum suorum, qui eis cari sunt, doloribus ac mortibus flagellantur, cur ista non fiant, quando, cum transierint, pro non factis erunt, in quibus facta sunt, propter quos autem facta sunt, aut meliores erunt, si temporalibus incommodis emendati rectius elegerint uiuere, aut excusationem in futuri iudicii supplicio non habebunt, si uitae huius angoribus ad aeternam uitam desiderium conuertere noluerint? quis autem nouit, quid paruulis, de quorum cruciatibus duritia maiorum contunditur aut exercetur fides aut misericordia probatur, quis ergo nouit, quid ipsis paruulis in secreto iudiciorum suorum bonae compensationis reseruet deus, quoniam, quamquam nihil recte fecerint, tamen nec peccantes aliquid ista perpessi sunt? non enim frustra etiam infantes illos, qui, cum dominus Iesus Christus necandus ab Herode quaereretur, occisi sunt, in honorem martyrum receptos commendat ecclesia.

I for my part said something, not about talents but at least about the punishments of little ones which they suffer in this life, in those books on free will. What it is, and why it does not satisfy me in this question which we have in hand, I shall explain, and I shall insert in this letter that very passage excerpted from the third book. For it runs thus: "As for the bodily torments by which little ones are afflicted, who because of their age have no sins, if the souls by which they are animated did not exist before they themselves began to be human beings, a greater and as it were merciful complaint is usually made, when it is said: 'What evil have they done, to suffer these things?' As if there could be a merit of innocence before anyone could do any harm! But when God works some good in the correction of adults, when they are scourged by the pains and deaths of their little ones who are dear to them, why should these things not happen, since, when they have passed, they will be as if they had not happened for those in whom they happened, while those for whose sake they happened will either be better, if, corrected by temporal troubles, they choose to live more rightly, or will have no excuse in the punishment of the judgment to come, if they refuse to turn their desire to eternal life from the anguish of this life? And who knows what God reserves, in the secret of his judgments, by way of good compensation for the little ones themselves, by whose torments the hardness of adults is crushed, or faith exercised, or mercy tested; who, then, knows what he reserves for the little ones themselves, since, although they have done nothing rightly, neither have they suffered these things for any sin? For not in vain does the church commend as received into the honor of martyrs even those infants who were killed when the Lord Jesus Christ was sought by Herod to be put to death."

Matt 2:16 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine quotes his own earlier answer in On Free Will: infants' sufferings may correct their parents, and God may compensate the infants, as with the Holy Innocents honored as martyrs.

  • Augustine, On Free Will 3.23.68. Scripture: Matt 2:16.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): secerptum → excerptum.

Topics: Martyrdom

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.18 (CSEL 44:571–573; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-18).

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166.19CSEL 44:573–574

Haec tunc dixi, cum hanc ipsam, de qua nunc agitur, uellem communire sententiam. sicut enim paulo ante commemoraui, quaecumque illarum de animae incarnatione quattuor opinionum uera esset, inculpatam substantiam creatoris et a nostrorum peccatorum societate remotissimam nitebar ostendere. et ideo, quaecumque illarum ueritate posset conuinci et repudiari, ad curam intentionis meae, quam tunc habebam, non pertinebat, quando quidem cunctis diligentiore disputatione discussis, quaecumque illarum recte uinceret ceteras, me securissimo fieret, quando etiam secundum omnes id, quod agebam, inuictum persistere demonstrabam. nunc uero unam uolo, si possim, rationem rectam eligere ex omnibus et propterea huius ipsius, de qua nunc agimus, defensionem in his, quae commemoraui de illo libro, uerbis meis attentius intuens ualidam firmamque non uideo.

I said these things then when I wished to fortify this very opinion which is now in question. For, as I mentioned a little before, I was striving to show that, whichever of those four opinions about the incarnation of the soul was true, the substance of the Creator is blameless and most remote from any share in our sins. And therefore it did not concern the purpose I then had which of them could be refuted by the truth and rejected, since, when all had been examined by more careful discussion, whichever of them rightly prevailed over the rest, it would happen with me fully secure, as I was showing that what I was arguing remained unconquered according to all of them. But now I wish, if I can, to choose the one right account out of all of them; and therefore, looking more attentively at my words which I have quoted from that book, I do not see that the defense of this very opinion which we are now discussing is strong and firm.

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Summary: In On Free Will Augustine's aim allowed him to leave the four opinions open, but now, seeking the true one, he finds his earlier defense inadequate.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.19 (CSEL 44:573–574; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-19).

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166.20CSEL 44:574–575

Nam uelut firmamentum eius illud est, quod ibi dixi: Quis autem nouit, quid paruulis, de quorum cruciatibus duritia maiorum contunditur aut exercetur fides aut misericordia probatur, quis ergo nouit, quid ipsis paruulis in secreto iudiciorum suorum bonae compensationis reseruet deus? sed hoc non inmerito dici uideo de his, qui uel pro Christi nomine ac uera religione tale aliquid etiam nescientes patiuntur uel sacramento Christi iam inbuti sunt, quia sine societate unius mediatoris liberari a damnatione non possunt, ut possit eis etiam pro illis malis, quae hic in diuersis afflictionibus pertulerunt, compensatio illa praestari. nunc autem, cum ista quaestio non possit absolui, nisi etiam de his paruulis respondeatur, qui post grauissimos cruciatus sine sacramento Christianae societatis expirant, quae circa eos compensatio cogitanda est, quibus insuper et damnatio praeparata est? nam et de baptismo paruulorum in eodem libro non quidem sufficienter, sed quantum illi operi satis esse uidebatur, utcumque respondi, quod etiam nescientibus et fidem suam nondum habentibus prodest, non tamen de damnatione eorum paruulorum, qui sine illo ex hac uita emigrant, tunc aliquid dicendum putaui, quia non, quod nunc agitur, agebatur.

For its main support, as it were, is what I said there: "And who knows what God reserves, in the secret of his judgments, by way of good compensation for the little ones themselves, by whose torments the hardness of adults is crushed, or faith exercised, or mercy tested?" But I see that this is not unreasonably said of those who either suffer something of the kind for Christ's name and the true religion, even without knowing it, or have already been initiated in the sacrament of Christ; because without fellowship with the one mediator they cannot be freed from condemnation, so that that compensation can be given to them even for the evils which they have endured here in various afflictions. But now, since this question cannot be settled unless an answer is given also concerning those little ones who, after the most grievous torments, expire without the sacrament of Christian fellowship, what compensation is to be thought of for them, for whom, besides, condemnation too is prepared? For in the same book I also answered somehow about the baptism of little ones, not sufficiently, but as much as seemed enough for that work, that it benefits them even though they do not know it and do not yet have faith of their own; but about the condemnation of those little ones who depart this life without it I did not then think anything needed to be said, because what is now in question was not then in question.

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Summary: Compensation may apply to infants who suffer for Christ or are baptized, but not to unbaptized infants who die after suffering and are condemned.

  • Augustine, On Free Will 3.23.67. His teaching on unbaptized infants is translated as written.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.20 (CSEL 44:574–575; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-20).

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166.21CSEL 44:575–577

Sed ut omittamus et contemnamus ea, quae breui tempore patiuntur nec transacta reuocantur, numquid similiter contemnere possumus, quod per unum hominem mors et per unum hominem resurrectio mortuorum? sicut enim in Adam omnes moriuntur, sic et in Christo omnes uiuificabuntur. per hanc enim apostolicam diuinam claramque sententiam satis euidenter elucet neminem ire in mortem nisi per Adam, neminem in uitam aeternam nisi per Christum. hoc est quippe omnes) et omnes, quia sicut omnes homines per primam, hoc est per carnalem generationem pertinent ad Adam, sic omnes homines ad secundam, id est spiritalem generationem ueniunt, quicumque ad Christum perueniunt. ideo ergo dictum est et hic omnes) et ibi omnes, quia sicut omnes, qui moriuntur, non nisi in Adam moriuntur, ita omnes, qui uiuificabuntur, non nisi in Christo uiuificabuntur. ac per hoc quisquis nobis dixerit quemquam resurrectione mortuorum uiuificari nisi in Christo, tamquam pestis communis fidei detestandus est. item quisquis dixerit, quod in Christo uiuificabuntur etiam paruuli, qui sine sacramenti eius participatione de uita exeunt, hic profecto et contra apostoli praedicationem uenit et totam condemnat ecclesiam, ubi propterea cum baptizandis paruulis festinatur et curritur, quia sine dubio creditur aliter eos in Christo uiuificari omnino non posse. qui autem non uiuificantur in Christo, restat, ut in ea condemnatione maneant, de qua dicit apostolus: Per unius delictum in omnes homines ad condemnationem. cui delicto obnoxios paruulos nasci et omnis credit ecclesia et ipse iam contra Iouinianum disputans et exponens Ionam prophetam, sicut paulo ante commemoraui, fide ueracissima definisti, credo et in aliis locis opusculorum tuorum, quae uel non legi uel in praesentia non recordor. huius igitur damnationis in paruulos causam requiro, quia neque animarum, si nouae fiunt singulis singulae, uideo esse ullum in illa aetate peccatum nec a deo damnari aliquam credo, quam uidet nullum habere peccatum.

But let us pass over and disregard what they suffer for a short time and what, once past, is not recalled: can we likewise disregard that "through one man came death, and through one man the resurrection of the dead; for as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive"? For through this apostolic, divine, and clear statement it shines out quite evidently that no one goes into death except through Adam, no one into eternal life except through Christ. For this is what "all" and "all" mean: that as all human beings belong to Adam by the first, that is, the fleshly generation, so all human beings who come to Christ come to the second, that is, the spiritual generation. Therefore "all" was said both here and there, because, as all who die die only in Adam, so all who will be made alive will be made alive only in Christ. And therefore whoever tells us that anyone is made alive in the resurrection of the dead except in Christ must be detested as a plague on the common faith. Likewise, whoever says that little ones too, who depart this life without participation in his sacrament, will be made alive in Christ, certainly both opposes the apostle's preaching and condemns the whole church, where people hasten and run with little ones to be baptized precisely because it is believed without doubt that otherwise they cannot be made alive in Christ at all. And those who are not made alive in Christ must remain in that condemnation of which the apostle says: "Through the offense of one upon all men to condemnation." That little ones are born liable to this offense the whole church believes, and you yourself, disputing against Jovinian and expounding the prophet Jonah, as I mentioned a little before, have defined it with most truthful faith, and I believe also in other places of your works which I have either not read or do not recall at present. I seek, then, the cause of this condemnation in little ones, because, if souls are made new, each for each, I see no sin in them at that age, nor do I believe that God condemns any soul which he sees has no sin.

1 Cor 15:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:18 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Since all die in Adam and are made alive only in Christ, unbaptized infants are condemned, as the church's practice and Jerome himself affirm; but Augustine cannot see why, if their souls are sinless.

  • Scripture: 1 Cor 15:21–22; Rom 5:18. Translated exactly as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): breui tempore. patiuntur → breui tempore patiuntur; non nisi in Adam moriuntur. ita → non nisi in Adam moriuntur, ita; uiuificari nisi in Christo. tamquam → uiuificari nisi in Christo, tamquam.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.21 (CSEL 44:575–577; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-21).

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166.22CSEL 44:577–578

An forte dicendum est in paruulo carnem solam esse peccati, nouam uero illi animam fieri, qua secundum dei praecepta uiuente in adiutorio gratiae Christi et ipsi carni edomitae ac subiugatae possit incorruptionis meritum comparari? sed quia in paruulo anima nondum id agere potest, si Christi acceperit sacramentum, per hanc gratiam carni eius adquiritur, quod illius moribus nondum potuit, si autem sine illo sacramento anima paruuli exierit, ipsa quidem in aeterna uita erit, unde eam nullum peccatum potuit separare, caro uero eius non resurget in Christo non percepto ante mortem illius sacramento?

Or should it perhaps be said that in a little one only the flesh is of sin, but a new soul is made for it, so that, if the soul lives according to God's commands with the help of the grace of Christ, the merit of incorruption can be obtained even for the flesh, tamed and subjugated? But since in a little one the soul cannot yet do this, if it receives the sacrament of Christ, then by this grace there is acquired for its flesh what could not yet be acquired by its conduct; but if the little one's soul departs without that sacrament, it will itself be in eternal life, from which no sin could separate it, but its flesh will not rise in Christ, since it did not receive his sacrament before death?

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Summary: Augustine considers a hypothesis that only the infant's flesh is sinful, so that an unbaptized infant's soul would be saved but its body would not rise in Christ.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.22 (CSEL 44:577–578; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-22).

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166.23CSEL 44:578–579

Hanc opinionem numquam audiui, numquam legi, sed plane audiui et credidi, propter quod et locutus sum, quia ueniet hora, quando omnes, qui sunt in monumentis, audient uocem eius et procedent, qui bona fecerunt, in resurrectionem uitae; ipsa est, de qua dicitur: Et per unum hominem resurrectio mortuorum, ipsa est, qua in Christo omnes uiuificabuntur, qui autem male egerunt, in resurrectionem iudicii. quid hic ergo de illis infantibus intellegendum est, qui priusquam possent agere uel bene uel male, sine baptismo corpore exuti sunt? nihil hic de talibus dictum est. sed si caro eorum ideo non resurget, quia nec boni aliquid egerunt nec mali, nec illorum resurrectura est, qui percepta baptismi gratia in illa aetate defuncti sunt, in qua nihil bene uel male agere potuerunt. si autem illi inter sanctos resurgent, id est inter eos, qui bene egerunt, inter quos et illi resurrecturi, sunt nisi inter eos, qui male egerunt, ne aliquas humanas animas credamus corpora sua non recepturas siue in resurrectionem uitae siue in resurrectionem iudicii? quae sententia, priusquam refellatur, ipsa nouitate iam displicet. deinde quis ferat, si credant se illi, qui ad baptismum cum suis paruulis currunt, propter carnes eorum non propter animas currere? beatus quidem Cyprianus non aliquod decretum condens nouum sed ecclesiae fidem firmissimam seruans ad corrigendos eos, qui putabant ante octauum diem natiuitatis non esse paruulum baptizandum, non carnem sed animam dixit non esse perdendam et mox natum rite baptizari posse cum suis quibusdam coepiscopis censuit.

This opinion I have never heard, never read; but I have certainly heard and believed, and therefore I have spoken, that "the hour will come when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and will come forth, those who have done good to the resurrection of life"; this is the one of which it is said, "and through one man the resurrection of the dead"; this is the one in which all will be made alive in Christ; "but those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment." What, then, is to be understood here about those infants who, before they could do either good or evil, were stripped of the body without baptism? Nothing is said here about such. But if their flesh will not rise because they did neither good nor evil, neither will the flesh of those rise who received the grace of baptism and died at an age at which they could do neither good nor evil. But if the latter will rise among the saints, that is, among those who did good, among whom will the former rise but among those who did evil, unless we are to believe that some human souls will not receive their bodies back, either to the resurrection of life or to the resurrection of judgment? This opinion, even before it is refuted, already displeases by its very novelty. Besides, who could bear it if those who run to baptism with their little ones believed that they are running for the sake of their flesh and not their souls? Blessed Cyprian, indeed, establishing no new decree but preserving the most firm faith of the church, in order to correct those who thought that a little one should not be baptized before the eighth day after birth, said that it is not the flesh but the soul that must not be lost, and with some of his fellow bishops judged that a child can rightly be baptized as soon as it is born.

Ps 116:10 (115:10 Vulg.) (allusion, high confidence) · 2 Cor 4:13 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:28 (quotation, high confidence) · John 5:29 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:21 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:22 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Augustine rejects the hypothesis, since Scripture knows only the resurrection of life and of judgment, and the church baptizes infants for their souls, as Cyprian taught.

  • Scripture: Ps 116:10 (115:10 Vulgate; 2 Cor 4:13); John 5:28–29; 1 Cor 15:21–22. Cyprian, Ep. 64 (to Fidus) 2–6, in Hartel's numbering.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): locutus sum. quia ueniet → locutus sum, quia ueniet; qui bona fecerunt. in resurrectionem → qui bona fecerunt, in resurrectionem; infantibus intellegendum est, qui. priusquam → infantibus intellegendum est, qui priusquam; propter. carnes → propter carnes.

Extrabiblical texts: Cyprian, Ep. 64.2 (Letters; allusion)

Topics: Baptism, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.23 (CSEL 44:578–579; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-23).

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166.24CSEL 44:579–580

Sed contra Cypriani aliquam opinionem, ubi, quod uidendum fuit, fortasse non uidit, sentiat quisque, quod libet; tantum contra apostolicam manifestissimam fidem nemo sentiat, qui ex unius delicto omnes in condemnationem duci praedicat. ex qua condemnatione non liberat nisi gratia dei per Iesum Christum dominum nostrum, in quo uno omnes uiuificantur, quicumque uiuificantur; contra ecclesiae fundatissimum morem nemo sentiat, ubi ad baptismum si propter paruulorum sola corpora curreretur, baptizandi offerrentur et mortui.

But against some opinion of Cyprian's, where perhaps he did not see what should have been seen, let each think what he likes; only let no one think against the most manifest apostolic faith, which preaches that from the offense of one all are led into condemnation, from which condemnation nothing frees but the grace of God through Jesus Christ our Lord, in whom alone all are made alive who are made alive; let no one think against the most firmly founded custom of the church, in which, if people ran to baptism only for the sake of the bodies of little ones, even the dead would be offered for baptism.

Rom 5:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 7:25 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Whatever one thinks of Cyprian on other points, no one may oppose the apostolic faith in original sin or the church's custom of infant baptism, which is not for the body.

  • "Some opinion of Cyprian's": probably his view on rebaptism of heretics. Scripture: Rom 5:18; Rom 7:25.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray periods in the digital text): ubi. quod uidendum fuit. fortasse → ubi, quod uidendum fuit, fortasse.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.24 (CSEL 44:579–580; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-24).

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166.25CSEL 44:580

Quae cum ita sint, quaerenda causa atque reddenda est, quare damnentur animae, quae nouae creantur singulis quibusque nascentibus, si praeter Christi sacramentum paruuli moriantur. damnari enim eas, si sic de corpore exierint, et sancta scriptura et sancta est testis ecclesia. unde illa de animarum nouarum creatione sententia, si hanc fidem fundatissimam non oppugnat, sit et mea, si oppugnat, non sit et tua.

This being so, the cause must be sought and given why souls which are newly created for each person born are condemned, if the little ones die without the sacrament of Christ. For that they are condemned if they go out of the body in this way, both holy Scripture and the holy church are witnesses. Hence that opinion about the creation of new souls, if it does not attack this most firmly founded faith, let it be mine too; if it does attack it, let it not be yours either.

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Summary: Augustine will adopt the creation of new souls only if it can be reconciled with the condemnation of unbaptized infants.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): de corpore exierint. et sancta → de corpore exierint, et sancta.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.25 (CSEL 44:580; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-25).

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166.26CSEL 44:580–582

Nolo mihi dicatur pro hac sententia debere accipi, quod scriptum est: Qui finxit spiritum hominis in ipso et: Qui finxit singillatim corda eorum. aliquid fortissimum atque inuictissimum requirendum est, quod nos non cogat deum credere ullarum animarum sine culpa aliqua damnatorem. nam uel tantundem ualet uel plus est forsitan creare quam fingere et tamen scriptum est: Cor mundum crea in me, deus. nec ideo putari potest anima hoc loco optare se fieri, priusquam aliquid esset. sicut ergo iam existens creatur innouatione iustitiae, sic iam existens fingitur conformatione doctrinae. nec illud, quod in ecclesiaste scriptum est: Tunc conuertetur in terram puluis, sicut fuit, et spiritus reuertetur ad dominum, qui dedit illum, istam confirmat sententiam, quam esse uolumus nostram; plus enim hoc suffragatur eis, qui ex una putant omnes esse animas. nam sicut conuertitur, inquiunt, puluis in terram, sicut fuit, et tamen caro, de qua hoc dictum est, ad hominem non reuertitur, ex quo propagata est, sed ad terram, unde primus homo factus est, sic et spiritus ex illius unius spiritu propagatus non tamen ad eum reuertitur sed ad dominum, a quo illi datus est. uerum quia hoc testimonium ita pro istis sonat, ut non omni modo huic opinioni, quam defendi uolo, uideatur esse contrarium, admonendam tantum credidi prudentiam tuam, ne talibus testimoniis ex his angustiis me coneris eruere. nam licet nemo faciat optando, ut uerum sit, quod uerum non est, tamen, si fieri posset, optarem, ut haec sententia uera esset, sicut opto, ut, si uera est, abs te liquidissime atque inuictissime defendatur.

I do not want to be told that in support of this opinion we should take what is written: "Who formed the spirit of man within him," and "Who fashioned their hearts one by one." Something most strong and unconquerable must be sought, which does not compel us to believe that God condemns any souls without any fault. For to create is as much as, or perhaps more than, to form; and yet it is written, "Create a clean heart in me, O God"; and it cannot be thought on that account that the soul in this passage wishes to be made before it was anything at all. Just as, then, an already existing soul is created by the renewal of righteousness, so an already existing one is formed by the shaping of instruction. Nor does what is written in Ecclesiastes, "Then the dust shall return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return to the Lord who gave it," confirm this opinion which we wish to be ours; for it rather supports those who think that all souls come from one. For, they say, just as the dust returns to the earth as it was, and yet the flesh of which this was said does not return to the man from whom it was propagated but to the earth from which the first man was made, so too the spirit, propagated from the spirit of that one man, does not return to him but to the Lord, by whom it was given to him. But since this testimony sounds in favor of these people in such a way that it does not seem altogether contrary to this opinion which I wish defended, I thought I should only advise your Prudence not to try to rescue me from these straits with such testimonies. For although no one, by wishing, makes true what is not true, yet, if it were possible, I would wish this opinion to be true, as I wish that, if it is true, it may be defended by you most clearly and unanswerably.

Zech 12:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 33:15 (32:15 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 51:10 (50:12 Vulg.) (quotation, high confidence) · Eccl 12:7 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Texts like Zech 12:1, Ps 33:15, and Eccl 12:7 do not settle the question in favor of new souls; Augustine wishes the view to be true and asks Jerome for an unanswerable defense.

  • Scripture: Zech 12:1; Ps 33:15 (32:15 Vulgate); Ps 51:10 (50:12 Vulgate); Eccl 12:7.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): pro istis sonat. ut non → pro istis sonat, ut non; sicut opto, ut. si uera → sicut opto, ut, si uera.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.26 (CSEL 44:580–582; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-26).

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166.27CSEL 44:582–584

Haec autem difficultas etiam illos sequitur, qui iam existentes alibi animas et ab initio diuinorum operum praeparatas a deo mitti opinantur in corpora. nam et ab his hoc idem quaeritur: si animae inculpatae oboedienter ueniunt, quo mittuntur, cur in paruulis, si non baptizati uitam istam finierint, puniuntur? eadem prorsus in utraque sententia difficultas est. illi sibi uidentur de hac facilius exire quaestione, qui animas adseuerant pro meritis uitae prioris singulas singulis corporibus implicari. hoc enim putant esse in Adam mori, in carne scilicet, quae propagata est ex Adam, supplicia pendere, a quo reatu, inquiunt, gratia Christi liberat pusillos cum magnis. hoc quidem recte, ueraciter, optime, quod gratia Christi liberat a reatu peccatorum pusillos cum magnis. sed in alia superiore uita peccare animas et inde praecipitari in carceres carneos non credo, non adquiesco, non consentio: primo quoniam per nescio quos circuitus id agunt isti, ut post nescio quanta uolumina saeculorum iterum ad istam sarcinam corruptibilis carnis et supplicia pendenda redeundum sit, qua opinione quid horribilius cogitari possit, ignoro; deinde quis tandem iustus defunctus est, de quo non, si isti uera dicunt, solliciti esse debeamus, ne in sinu Abrahae peccans in flammas illius diuitis deiciatur? cur enim non et post hoc corpus peccari possit, si et ante potuit? postremo longe aliud est in Adam peccasse, unde dicit apostolus: In quo omnes peccauerunt, et aliud est extra Adam nescio ubi peccasse et ideo in Adam, id est in carnem, quae ex Adam propagata est, tamquam in carcerem trudi. illam uero opinionem, quod ex una fiant omnes animae, nec discutere uolo, nisi necesse sit, atque utinam ista, de qua nunc agimus, si uera est, sic abs te defendatur, ut hoc necesse iam non sit.

This difficulty also follows those who think that souls already existing elsewhere and prepared from the beginning of the divine works are sent by God into bodies. For of them too the same is asked: if blameless souls come obediently where they are sent, why are they punished in little ones if these end this life unbaptized? The difficulty is exactly the same in both opinions. Those think they escape this question more easily who assert that souls are entangled, one in each body, according to the merits of a former life. For they think that this is what it is to die in Adam: to pay penalties in the flesh, namely, which was propagated from Adam; and from this guilt, they say, the grace of Christ frees the small with the great. This indeed is right, true, and excellent: that the grace of Christ frees the small with the great from the guilt of sins. But that souls sin in another, previous life and are thrown down from there into fleshly prisons I do not believe, I do not accept, I do not agree: first, because these people bring it about, by I know not what cycles, that after I know not how many ages one must return again to this burden of corruptible flesh and to pay penalties, than which opinion I do not know what more horrible could be thought; next, what righteous person, after all, has died about whom, if these people speak the truth, we ought not to be anxious that, sinning in Abraham's bosom, he may be cast into the flames of that rich man? For why could one not sin after this body, if one could before it? Finally, it is one thing to have sinned in Adam (whence the apostle says, "in whom all sinned"), and another to have sinned outside Adam, I know not where, and therefore to be thrust into Adam, that is, into the flesh propagated from Adam, as into a prison. As for that opinion that all souls are made from one, I do not wish even to discuss it unless it is necessary; and I wish that the one we are now discussing, if it is true, may be so defended by you that this is no longer necessary.

Luke 16:22 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 16:24 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 5:12 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The same difficulty faces the view that pre-existing souls are sent into bodies; Augustine rejects the Origenist view of souls imprisoned for earlier sins and of endless cycles.

  • Scripture: Luke 16:22–24; Rom 5:12 (Old Latin "in quo omnes peccauerunt"). The view of souls punished for sins in a previous life is associated with Origen.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip (u for n); stray period in the digital text): finieriut → finierint; ex Adam. supplicia → ex Adam, supplicia.

Topics: Heresy, Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.27 (CSEL 44:582–584; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-27).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.

166.28CSEL 44:584–586

Quamuis autem desiderem, rogem, uotis ardentibus exoptem et expectem, ut per te mihi dominus huius rei auferat ignorantiam, tamen, si, quod absit, minime meruero, patientiam mihi petam a domino deo nostro, in quem sic credimus, ut aliqua nobis non aperiri etiam pulsantibus nullo modo aduersus eum murmurare debeamus. meminerimus ipsis apostolis dictum: Multa habeo uobis dicere, sed non potestis illa portare modo. in his, quantum ad me adtinet, etiam hoc deputem nec, qui hoc sciam, me indigner indignum, ne hoc ipso etiam conuincar indignior. multa enim alia similiter nescio, quae commemorare uel numerare non possum; et hoc tolerabiliter ignorarem, nisi metuerem, ne aliqua istarum opinionum contra illud, quod firmissima retinemus fide, incautis obreperet mentibus. sed antequam sciam, quaenam earum potius eligenda sit, hoc me non temere sentire profiteor, eam, quae uera est, non aduersari robustissimae ac fundatissimae fidei, qua Christi ecclesia nec paruulos homines recentissime natos a damnatione credit nisi per gratiam nominis Christi, quam in suis sacramentis commendauit, posse liberari.

But although I desire, ask, long for with ardent prayers, and await that the Lord may take away my ignorance of this matter through you, yet if (God forbid) I do not deserve it, I shall ask patience from the Lord our God, in whom we so believe that, if some things are not opened to us even when we knock, we ought in no way to murmur against him. Let us remember that it was said to the apostles themselves: "I have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now." Among these, as far as I am concerned, let me count this too, and not be indignant that I am unworthy to know it, lest by this very fact I be shown still more unworthy. For there are many other things which I likewise do not know, which I cannot mention or count; and I would bear my ignorance of this patiently, did I not fear that one of these opinions might creep into incautious minds against what we hold with most firm faith. But before I know which of them should rather be chosen, I profess that I hold this not rashly: that the one which is true does not oppose the most robust and most firmly founded faith, by which the church of Christ believes that not even newborn human infants can be freed from condemnation except through the grace of the name of Christ, which he has commended in his sacraments.

Matt 7:7 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 16:12 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine hopes Jerome can resolve the question but will accept ignorance with patience, holding only that the true view cannot contradict the faith that infants are saved only through Christ's grace in the sacraments.

  • Scripture: Matt 7:7 (knocking); John 16:12.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray period in the digital text): huius rei auferat ignorantiam. tamen → huius rei auferat ignorantiam, tamen; me indigner indignum. ne hoc → me indigner indignum, ne hoc.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 166.28 (CSEL 44:584–586; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/166-18/#p-166-28).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.