City of God 8.18–8.25
Latin text: Hoffmann, CSEL 40 (Latin text: Dombart and Hoffmann, De civitate dei (CSEL 40, 1899-1900), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 2 (1887).
Chapter 8
8.18CSEL 40:384–385
CAPUT XVIII. Qualis religio sit, in qua docetur, quod homines, ut commendentur dis bonis, daemonibus uti debeant aduocatis. Frustra igitur eis Apuleius, et quicumque ita sentiunt, hunc detulit honorem, sic eos in aere medios inter aetherium caelum terramque constituens, ut, quoniam nullus deus miscetur homini, quod Platonem dixisse perhibent, isti ad deos perferant preces hominum et inde ad homines inpetrata quae poscunt. Indignum enim putauerunt qui ista crediderunt misceri homines dis et deos hominibus; dignum autem misceri daemones et dis et hominibus, hinc petita qui adlegent, inde concessa qui adportent; ut uidelicet homo castus et ab artium magicarum sceleribus alienus eos patronos adhibeat, per quos illum di exaudiant, qui haec amant, quae ille non amando fit dignior, quem facilius et libentius exaudire debeant. Amant quippe illi scaenicas turpitudines, quas non amat pudicitia; amant in maleficiis magorum mille nocendi artes, quas non amat innocentia. Ergo et pudicitia et innocentia si quid ab dis inpetrare uoluerit, non poterit suis meritis nisi suis interuenientibus inimicis. Non est quod iste poetica figmenta et theatrica ludibria iustificare conetur. Habemus contra ista magistrum eorum et tantae aput eos auctoritatis Platonem, si pudor humanus ita de se male meretur, ut non solum diligat turpia, uerum etiam diuinitati existimet grata.
Chapter 18. What kind of religion it is in which it is taught that men, to be commended to the good gods, must use demons as advocates.
In vain, then, did Apuleius, and whoever think as he does, confer this honor on them, placing them in the air midway between the ethereal heaven and the earth, so that, since “no god mingles with man,” which they say Plato said, these may carry men's prayers to the gods and bring back from there to men what they ask for. For those who believed these things thought it unworthy for men to mingle with gods and gods with men, but worthy for demons to mingle with both gods and men, to present petitions from here and bring back grants from there. So, evidently, a chaste man, a stranger to the crimes of the magical arts, must employ as patrons, through whom the gods may hear him, those who love the very things by not loving which he becomes more worthy to be heard more readily and more willingly. For they love the indecencies of the stage, which chastity does not love; they love in the sorceries of magicians a thousand arts of doing harm, which innocence does not love. So if chastity and innocence wish to obtain anything from the gods, they will not be able to do so by their own merits, but only through the intercession of their own enemies. There is no reason for him to try to justify the fictions of the poets and the mockeries of the theater. Against these things we have their own master, of such great authority among them, Plato — if human shame deserves so ill of itself as not only to love shameful things but even to think them pleasing to the divinity.
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Summary: Augustine mocks the idea that the chaste and innocent must reach the good gods through demons who love the very vices they avoid.
- “No god mingles with man” is from Plato, Symposium 203a, as quoted by Apuleius, On the God of Socrates 4.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Symp. 203a (Plato (works); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.18 (CSEL 40:384–385; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.19CSEL 40:385–387
CAPUT XVIIII. De inpietate artis magicae, quae patrocinio nititur spirituum malignorum. Porro aduersus magicas artes, de quibus quosdam nimis infelices et nimis inpios etiam gloriari libet, nonne ipsam publicam lucem testem citabo? Quur enim tam grauiter ista plectuntur seueritate legum, si opera sunt numinum colendorum? An forte istas leges Christiani instituerunt, quibus artes magicae puniuntur? Secundum quem alium sensum, nisi quod haec maleficia generi humano perniciosa esse non dubium est, ait poeta clarissimus: Testor, cara, deos et te, germana, tuumque Dulce caput, magicas inuitam accingier artes? Illud etiam, quod alio loco de his artibus dicit: Adque satas alio uidi traducere messes, eo quod hac pestifera scelerataque doctrina fructus alieni in alias terras transferri perhibentur, nonne in duodecim tabulis, id est Romanorum antiquissimis legibus, Cicero commemorat esse conscriptum et ei, qui hoc fecerit, supplicium constitutum? Postremo Apuleius ipse numquid aput Christianos iudices de magicis artibus accusatus est? Quas utique sibi obiectas si diuinas et pias esse nouerat et diuinarum potestatum operibus congruas, non solum eas confiteri debuit, sed etiam profiteri, leges culpans potius, quibus haec prohiberentur et damnanda putarentur, quae haberi miranda et ueneranda oporteret. Ita enim uel sententiam suam persuaderet iudicibus, uel, si illi secundum iniquas leges saperent eumque talia praedicantem adque laudantem morte multarent, digna animae illius daemones dona rependerent, pro quorum diuinis operibus praedicandis humanam uitam sibi adimi non timeret; sicut martyres nostri, cum eis pro crimine obiceretur Christiana religio, qua nouerant se fieri saluos et gloriosissimos in aeternum, non eam negando temporales poenas euadere delegerunt, sed potius confitendo profitendo praedicando et pro hac omnia fideliter fortiterque tolerando et cum pia securitate moriendo leges, quibus prohibebatur, erubescere conpulerunt mutarique fecerunt. Huius autem philosophi Platonici copiosissima et disertissima extat oratio, qua crimen artium magicarum a se alienum esse defendit seque aliter non uult innocentem uideri nisi ea negando, quae non possunt ab innocente committi. At omnia miracula magorum, quos recte sentit esse damnandos, doctrinis fiunt et operibus daemonum, quos uiderit quur censeat honorandos, eos necessarios adserens perferendis ad deos precibus nostris, quorum debemus opera deuitare, si ad Deum uerum preces nostras uolumus peruenire. Deinde quaero, quales preces hominum dis bonis per daemones adlegari putat, magicas an licitas? Si magicas, nolunt tales; si licitas, nolunt per tales. Si autem peccator paenitens preces fundit, maxime si aliquid magicum admisit, itane tandem illis intercedentibus accipit ueniam, quibus inpellentibus aut fauentibus se cecidisse plangit in culpam? an et ipsi daemones, ut possint paenitentibus mereri indulgentiam, priores agunt, quod eos deceperint, paenitentiam? Hoc nemo umquam de daemonibus dixit, quia, si ita esset, nequaquam sibi auderent diuinos honores expetere, qui paenitendo desiderarent ad gratiam ueniae peruenire. Ibi enim est detestanda superbia, hic humilitas miseranda.
Chapter 19. On the impiety of the magic art, which relies on the patronage of malignant spirits.
Furthermore, against the magic arts, in which some men, too unhappy and too impious, are pleased even to glory, shall I not call the public light of day itself as witness? For why are these things punished so heavily by the severity of the laws, if they are the works of deities to be worshipped? Or did the Christians perhaps establish these laws by which magic arts are punished? In what other sense, except that these sorceries are undoubtedly pernicious to the human race, does the most famous poet say: “I call the gods to witness, dear sister, and you, and your sweet life, that I am girding myself for magic arts against my will”? And that other thing he says about these arts in another place, “and I have seen crops sown elsewhere carried over” — because by this pestilential and criminal teaching the fruits of others are said to be transferred to other lands — does not Cicero record that it was written in the Twelve Tables, that is, the most ancient laws of the Romans, and that a penalty was fixed for anyone who did it? Finally, was Apuleius himself accused of magic arts before Christian judges? If he had known that the arts charged against him were divine and pious and in keeping with the works of divine powers, he ought not only to have confessed them but even to have professed them, blaming rather the laws by which these things were forbidden and thought worthy of condemnation, when they ought to have been held wonderful and venerable. In that way he would either have persuaded the judges of his opinion, or, if they judged according to unjust laws and punished him with death for proclaiming and praising such things, the demons would have repaid his soul with worthy gifts, since for proclaiming their divine works he would not have feared to lose his human life. So our martyrs, when the Christian religion was charged against them as a crime — the religion by which they knew they were made safe and most glorious for eternity — did not choose to escape temporal punishments by denying it, but rather, by confessing, professing, and proclaiming it, and by enduring everything for it faithfully and bravely and dying with pious serenity, they compelled the laws by which it was forbidden to blush, and caused them to be changed. But there is extant a most copious and eloquent speech of this Platonic philosopher, in which he defends himself against the charge of magic arts as foreign to him, and wishes to seem innocent in no other way than by denying the things that cannot be committed by an innocent man. Yet all the wonders of magicians, whom he rightly thinks deserving of condemnation, are done by the teachings and works of demons; let him see why he judges them worthy of honor, asserting that they are necessary for carrying our prayers to the gods, when we ought to avoid their works if we want our prayers to reach the true God. Then I ask: what kind of men's prayers does he think are presented to the good gods through demons — magical ones or lawful ones? If magical, the gods do not want such; if lawful, they do not want them through such beings. And if a repentant sinner pours out prayers, especially if he has committed something magical, does he then receive pardon through the intercession of those at whose instigation or with whose favor he laments that he fell into guilt? Or do the demons themselves, so as to be able to obtain pardon for penitents, first do penance for having deceived them? No one has ever said this of the demons; for if it were so, they would never dare to seek divine honors for themselves, who by repenting would desire to attain the grace of pardon. For there is pride to be detested, here humility to be pitied.
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Summary: Augustine argues from Roman law, Virgil, and Apuleius' own defense against a charge of magic that magic is wicked, and that the demons behind it cannot be mediators of prayer.
- Quotes Virgil, Aeneid 4.492–493 and Eclogues 8.99. The Twelve Tables' law against charming away crops is reported from Cicero (probably On the Republic 4, lost). The “most copious and eloquent speech” is Apuleius' Apology (On Magic), delivered before a pagan proconsul; Augustine's question implies that his judges were not Christians.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (stray asterisk; words run together): * Porro → Porro; inaeternum → in aeternum.
Extrabiblical texts: Virgil, Aen. 4.492–493 (Virgil; quotation); Virgil, Ecl. 8.99 (Virgil; quotation); Cicero, Rep. 4 (Cicero; allusion)
Topics: Martyrdom
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.19 (CSEL 40:385–387; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.20CSEL 40:387–388
CAPUT XX. An credendum sit quod di boni libentius daemonibus quam hominibus misceantur. At enim urgens causa et artissima cogit daemones medios inter deos et homines agere, ut ab hominibus adferant desiderata, et a dis referant inpetrata. Quaenam tandem ista causa est et quanta necessitas? Quia nullus, inquiunt, Deus miscetur homini. Praeclara igitur sanctitas Dei, qui non miscetur homini supplicanti, et miscetur daemoni adroganti; non miscetur homini paenitenti, et miscetur daemoni decipienti; non miscetur homini confugienti ad diuinitatem, et miscetur daemoni fingenti diuinitatem; non miscetur homini petenti indulgentiam, et miscetur daemoni suadenti nequitiam; non miscetur homini per philosophicos libros poetas de bene instituta ciuitate pellenti, et miscetur daemoni a principibus et pontificibus ciuitatis per scaenicos ludos poetarum ludibria requirenti; non miscetur homini deorum crimina fingere prohibenti, et miscetur daemoni se falsis deorum criminibus oblectanti; non miscetur homini magorum scelera iustis legibus punienti, et miscetur daemoni magicas artes docenti et inplenti; non miscetur homini imitationem daemonis fugienti, et miscetur daemoni deceptionem hominis aucupanti.
Chapter 20. Whether we are to believe that good gods mingle more willingly with demons than with men.
“But,” they say, “an urgent and most pressing cause compels the demons to act as intermediaries between gods and men, to carry men's desires to the gods and bring back from the gods what they have obtained.” What, pray, is this cause, and how great the necessity? “Because,” they say, “no god mingles with man.” What splendid holiness in God, then, who does not mingle with a man who entreats him, but mingles with a demon who is arrogant; does not mingle with a man who repents, but mingles with a demon who deceives; does not mingle with a man who takes refuge in the divinity, but mingles with a demon who feigns divinity; does not mingle with a man who asks for pardon, but mingles with a demon who urges wickedness; does not mingle with a man who through philosophical books expels the poets from a well-ordered city, but mingles with a demon who demands from the princes and pontiffs of the city the mockeries of the poets through stage plays; does not mingle with a man who forbids the invention of crimes of the gods, but mingles with a demon who delights in false crimes of the gods; does not mingle with a man who punishes the crimes of magicians by just laws, but mingles with a demon who teaches and practices magic arts; does not mingle with a man who flees from imitating a demon, but mingles with a demon who lies in wait to deceive a man!
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Summary: Augustine mocks the maxim that 'no god mingles with man,' since it implies that the gods mingle with deceiving demons rather than with penitent men.
- The maxim is from Plato, Symposium 203a, via Apuleius.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Symp. 203a (Plato (works); quotation)
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.20 (CSEL 40:387–388; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.21CSEL 40:388–390
CAPUT XXI. An daemonibus nuntiis et interpretibus di utantur fallique se ab eis aut ignorent aut uelint. Sed nimirum tantae huius absurditatis et indignitatis est magna necessitas, quod scilicet deos aetherios humana curantes quid terrestres homines agerent utique lateret, nisi daemones aerii nuntiarent; quoniam aether longe a terra est alteque suspensus, aer uero aetheri terraeque contiguus. O mirabilem sapientiam! Quid aliud de dis isti sentiunt, quos omnes optimos uolunt, nisi eos et humana curare, ne cultu uideantur indigni, et propter elementorum distantiam humana nescire, ut credantur daemones necessarii et ob hoc etiam ipsi putentur colendi, per quos di possint et quid in rebus humanis agatur addiscere et ubi oportet hominibus subuenire? Hoc si ita est, dis istis bonis magis notus est daemon per corpus uicinum quam homo per animum bonum. O multum dolenda necessitas, an potius inridenda uel detestanda uanitas, ne sit uana diuinitas! Si enim animo ab obstaculo corporis libero animum nostrum uidere di possunt, non ad hoc indigent daemonibus nuntiis; si autem animorum indicia corporalia, qualia sunt locutio uultus motus, per corpus suum aetherii di sentiunt et inde colligunt quid etiam daemones nuntient, possunt et mendaciis daemonum decipi. Porro si deorum diuinitas a daemonibus non potest falli, eadem diuinitate quod agimus non potest ignorari. Vellem autem mihi isti dicerent, utrum dis daemones nuntiauerint de criminibus deorum poetica Platoni displicere figmenta et sibi ea placere celauerint, an utrumque occultauerint deosque esse maluerint totius rei huius ignaros, an utrumque indicauerint, et religiosam erga deos Platonis prudentiam et in deos iniuriosam libidinem suam, an sententiam quidem Platonis, qua noluit deos per inpiam licentiam poetarum falsis criminibus infamari, ignotam dis esse uoluerint, suam uero nequitiam, qua ludos scaenicos amant, quibus illa deorum dedecora celebrantur, prodere non erubuerint uel timuerint. Horum quattuor, quae interrogando proposui, quodlibet eligant et in quolibet eorum quantum mali de dis bonis opinentur adtendant. Si enim primum elegerint, confessuri sunt non licuisse dis bonis habitare cum bono Platone, quando eorum iniurias prohibebat, et habitasse cum daemonibus malis, quando eorum iniuriis exultabant, cum di boni hominem bonum longe a se positum non nisi per malos daemones nossent, quos uicinos nosse non possent. Si autem secundum elegerint et utrumque occultatum a daemonibus dixerint, ut di omnino nescirent et Platonis religiosissimam legem et daemonum sacrilegam delectationem: quid in rebus humanis per internuntios daemones di nosse utiliter possunt, quando illa nesciunt, quae in honorem bonorum deorum religione bonorum hominum contra libidinem malorum daemonum decernuntur? Si uero tertium elegerint et non solum sententiam Platonis deorum iniurias prohibentem, sed etiam daemonum nequitiam deorum iniuriis exultantem per eosdem daemones nuntios dis innotuisse responderint: hoc nuntiare est an insultare? et di utrumque sic audiunt, sic utrumque cognoscunt, ut non solum malignos daemones deorum dignitati et Platonis religioni contraria cupientes adque facientes a suo accessu non arceant, uerum etiam per illos malos propinquos Platoni bono longinquo dona transmittant? sic enim eos elementorum quasi catenata series conligauit, ut illis, a quibus criminantur, coniungi possint, huic, a quo defenduntur, non possint, utrumque scientes, sed aeris et terrae transmutare pondera non ualentes. Iam, quod reliquum est, si quartum elegerint, peius est ceteris. Quis enim ferat, si poetarum de dis inmortalibus criminosa figmenta et theatrorum indigna ludibria suamque in his omnibus ardentissimam cupiditatem et suauissimam uoluptatem dis daemones nuntiauerunt, et quod Plato philosophica grauitate de optima re publica haec omnia censuit remouenda tacuerunt; ut iam di boni per tales nuntios nosse cogantur mala pessimorum, nec aliena, sed eorundem nuntiorum, adque his contraria non sinantur nosse bona philosophorum, cum illa sint in iniuriam, ista in honorem ipsorum deorum?
Chapter 21. Whether the gods use demons as messengers and interpreters, and whether they are ignorant of being deceived by them or willing to be.
But, of course, there is a great necessity for this great absurdity and unworthiness: namely, that the ethereal gods, who care for human affairs, would certainly not know what earthly men were doing unless the aerial demons reported it, since the ether is far from the earth and suspended on high, while the air borders on both ether and earth. O wonderful wisdom! What else do these men think of the gods, whom they want all to be supremely good, except that they both care for human affairs, so as not to seem unworthy of worship, and, because of the distance of the elements, do not know human affairs — so that demons may be believed necessary and for this reason be thought worthy of worship themselves, as those through whom the gods can learn what is happening in human affairs and where they ought to help men? If this is so, a demon is better known to these good gods through a neighboring body than a man through a good mind. O necessity much to be lamented — or rather vanity to be laughed at or detested, so that divinity may not be vain! For if the gods, with a mind free from the obstacle of a body, can see our mind, they do not need demons as messengers for this; but if the ethereal gods perceive, through their own bodies, the bodily signs of minds, such as speech, facial expression, and movement, and from these gather what the demons report, they can also be deceived by the lies of demons. Further, if the divinity of the gods cannot be deceived by demons, then by that same divinity what we do cannot be unknown. I should like these men to tell me whether the demons reported to the gods that the poets' fictions about the crimes of the gods displeased Plato, and concealed that they pleased the demons themselves; or concealed both, and preferred the gods to be ignorant of the whole matter; or disclosed both, both Plato's religious prudence toward the gods and their own lust, injurious to the gods; or wished Plato's opinion, by which he refused to have the gods defamed with false crimes through the impious licence of the poets, to be unknown to the gods, while not blushing or fearing to betray their own wickedness, by which they love the stage plays in which those disgraces of the gods are celebrated. Of these four, which I have put forward by questioning, let them choose whichever they please, and let them notice in whichever it is how much evil they think of the good gods. For if they choose the first, they will have to confess that the good gods could not dwell with the good Plato when he forbade injuries to them, but dwelt with the bad demons when they exulted in injuries to them; for the good gods would know the good man, placed far from them, only through bad demons, whom, though near, they could not know. But if they choose the second, and say that both were concealed by the demons, so that the gods knew nothing at all either of Plato's most religious law or of the demons' sacrilegious delight, what can the gods usefully know of human affairs through demons as intermediaries, when they do not know those things which are decreed in honor of the good gods by the religion of good men against the lust of bad demons? But if they choose the third, and answer that not only Plato's opinion forbidding injuries to the gods, but also the demons' wickedness exulting in injuries to the gods, became known to the gods through these same demons as messengers — is this reporting or insulting? And do the gods hear and know both in such a way that they not only do not keep the malignant demons, who desire and do things contrary to the dignity of the gods and to Plato's religion, from approaching them, but even send gifts through these bad neighbors to the good Plato far away? For the chained series of the elements, as it were, has so bound them that they can be joined to those by whom they are slandered, but not to him by whom they are defended — knowing both, but unable to shift the weights of air and earth. Now, what remains, if they choose the fourth, is worse than the rest. For who could bear it if the demons reported to the gods the poets' criminal fictions about the immortal gods and the unworthy mockeries of the theaters, and their own most burning desire and sweetest pleasure in all these things, and kept silent about the fact that Plato, with philosophical gravity, judged that all these things should be removed from the best commonwealth? So the good gods would be compelled to know, through such messengers, the evils of the worst beings — not those of others, but of those same messengers — and would not be allowed to know the contrary goods of the philosophers, though the former are an injury and the latter an honor to the gods themselves.
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Summary: Augustine traps the Platonists in a fourfold dilemma: whatever the demons report to the gods about Plato and the stage, the good gods are made ignorant, dishonored, or deceived.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: the interjection O misread as '.s o'; stray period for comma): contiguus.s o mirabilem → contiguus. O mirabilem; animum bonum.s o multum → animum bonum. O multum; corporalia. qualia → corporalia, qualia; Horum quattuor. quae → Horum quattuor, quae.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.21 (CSEL 40:388–390; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.22CSEL 40:390–392
CAPUT XXII. De abiciendo cultu daemonum contra Apuleium. Quia igitur nihil istorum quattuor eligendum est, ne in quolibet eorum de dis tam male sentiatur, restat, ut nullo modo credendum sit, quod Apuleius persuadere nititur et quicumque alii sunt eiusdem sententiae philosophi, ita esse medios daemones inter deos et homines tamquam internuntios et interpretes, qui hinc ferant petitiones nostras, inde referant deorum subpetias; sed esse spiritus nocendi cupidissimos, a iustitia penitus alienos, superbia tumidos, inuidentia liuidos, fallacia callidos, qui in hoc quidem aere habitant, quia de caeli superioris sublimitate deiecti merito inregressibilis transgressionis in hoc sibi congruo uelut carcere praedamnati sunt; nec tamen, quia supra terras et aquas aeri locus est, ideo et ipsi sunt meritis superiores hominibus, qui eos non terreno corpore, sed electo in auxilium Deo uero pia mente facillime superant. Sed multis plane participatione uerae religionis indignis tamquam captis subditisque dominantur, quorum maximae parti mirabilibus et fallacibus signis siue factorum siue praedictorum deos se esse persuaserunt. Quibusdam uero uitia eorum aliquanto adtentius et diligentius intuentibus non potuerunt persuadere quod di sint, adque inter deos et homines internuntios ac beneficiorum inpetratores se esse finxerunt; si tamen non istum saltem honorem homines eis deferendum putarunt, qui illos nec deos esse credebant, quia malos uidebant, deos autem omnes bonos uolebant, nec audebant tamen omnino indignos dicere honore diuino, maxime ne offenderent populos, a quibus eis cernebant inueterata superstitione per tot sacra et templa seruiri.
Chapter 22. On rejecting the worship of demons, against Apuleius.
Since none of these four is to be chosen, lest in any of them such evil be thought of the gods, it remains that we must in no way believe what Apuleius, and any other philosophers of the same opinion, try to persuade us: that demons are intermediaries between gods and men, as go-betweens and interpreters, to carry our petitions from here and bring back the help of the gods from there. Rather, they are spirits most eager to do harm, wholly foreign to justice, swollen with pride, livid with envy, cunning in deceit. They dwell indeed in this air, because, cast down from the height of the higher heaven for the guilt of a transgression from which there is no return, they have been condemned beforehand to this region as to a prison suited to them. Yet they are not, because the place of the air is above the earth and waters, therefore themselves superior in merit to men, who very easily overcome them — not by an earthly body, but by a devout mind that has chosen the true God as its helper. But they plainly lord it over many who are unworthy of sharing in the true religion, as over captives and subjects; and the greatest part of these they have persuaded that they are gods, by wonderful and deceitful signs, either of deeds or of predictions. Some, however, who looked somewhat more attentively and carefully at their vices, they could not persuade that they were gods; and so they pretended to be go-betweens between gods and men and obtainers of benefits. That is, if men thought that at least this honor should be paid them, who did not believe them to be gods, because they saw that they were bad, while they held all gods to be good; and yet did not dare to say that they were altogether unworthy of divine honor, chiefly so as not to offend the peoples by whom they saw them served, through an inveterate superstition, with so many rites and temples.
2 Pet 2:4 (echo, medium confidence)
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Summary: Augustine concludes that demons are not mediators but fallen spirits, confined to the air, who deceive people into worshipping them as gods or go-betweens.
- The fall of the demons from the higher heaven into the air echoes 2 Pet 2:4 and Jude 6; Augustine develops it in Book 11.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.22 (CSEL 40:390–392; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hoffmann's Latin text (CSEL 40, 1899–1900); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 2 translation (Dods, 1887).
8.23CSEL 40:392–396
CAPUT XXIII. Quid Hermes Trismegistus de idolatria senserit et unde scire potuerit superstitiones Aegyptias auferendas. Nam diuersa de illis Hermes Aegyptius, quem Trismegistum uocant, sensit et scripsit. Apuleius enim deos quidem illos negat; sed cum dicit ita inter deos et homines quadam medietate uersari, ut hominibus aput ipsos deos necessarii uideantur, cultum eorum a supernorum deorum religione non separat. Ille autem Aegyptius alios deos esse dicit a summo Deo factos, alios ab hominibus. Hoc qui audit, sicut a me positum est, putat dici de simulacris, quia opera sunt manuum hominum; at ille uisibilia et contrectabilia simulacra uelut corpora deorum esse adserit; inesse autem his quosdam spiritus inuitatos, qui ualeant aliquid siue ad nocendum siue ad desideria nonnulla conplenda eorum, a quibus eis diuini honores et cultus obsequia deferuntur. Hos ergo spiritus inuisibiles per artem quandam uisibilibus rebus corporalis materiae copulare, ut sint quasi animata corpora illis spiritibus dicata et subdita simulacra, hoc esse dicit deos facere eamque magnam et mirabilem deos faciendi accepisse homines potestatem. Huius Aegyptii uerba, sicut in nostram linguam interpretata sunt, ponam. Et quoniam de cognatione, inquit, et consortio hominum deorumque nobis indicitur sermo, potestatem hominis, o Asclepi, uimque cognosce. Dominus, inquit, et Pater uel quod est summum Deus ut effector est deorum caelestium, ita homo fictor est deorum, qui in templis sunt humana proximitate contenti. Et paulo post: Ita humanitas, inquit, semper memor naturae et originis suae in illa diuinitatis imitatione perseuerat, ut, sicuti Pater ac Dominus, ut sui similes essent, deos fecit aeternos, ita humanitas deos suos ex sui uultus similitudine figuraret. Hic cum Asclepius, ad quem maxime loquebatur, ei respondisset adque dixisset: Statuas dicis, o Trismegiste? tum ille: Statuas, inquit, o Asclepi, uides quatenus tu ipse diffidas; statuas animatas sensu et spiritu plenas tantaque facientes et talia, statuas futurorum praescias eaque sorte uate somniis multisque aliis rebus praedicentes, inbecillitates hominibus facientes easque curantes, tristitiam laetitiamque pro meritis. An ignoras, o Asclepi, quod Aegyptus imago sit caeli, aut, quod est uerius, translatio aut descensio omnium quae gubernantur adque exercentur in caelo. Ac si dicendum est uerius, terra nostra mundi totius est templum. Et tamen quoniam praescire cuncta prudentem decet, istud uos ignorare fas non est: Futurum tempus est, quo appareat Aegyptios incassum pia mente diuinitatem sedula religione seruasse. Deinde multis uerbis Hermes hunc locum exequitur, in quo uidetur hoc tempus praedicere, quo Christiana religio, quanto est ueracior adque sanctior, tanto uehementius et liberius cuncta fallacia figmenta subuertit, ut gratia uerissimi Saluatoris liberet hominem ab eis dis, quos facit homo, et ei Deo subdat, a quo factus est homo. Sed Hermes cum ista praedicit, uelut amicus eisdem ludificationibus daemonum loquitur, nec Christianum nomen euidenter exprimit, sed tamquam ea tollerentur adque delerentur, quorum obseruatione caelestis similitudo custodiretur in Aegypto, ita haec futura deplorans luctuosa quodam modo praedicatione testatur. Erat enim de his, de quibus dicit apostolus, quod cognoscentes Deum non sicut Deum glorificauerunt aut gratias egerunt, sed euanuerunt in cogitationibus suis, et obscuratum est insipiens cor eorum; dicentes enim se esse sapientes stulti facti sunt et inmutauerunt gloriam incorrupti Dei in similitudinem imaginis corruptibilis hominis et cetera, quae commemorare longum est. Multa quippe talia dicit de uno uero Deo fabricatore mundi, qualia ueritas habet; et nescio quo modo illa obscuratione cordis ad ista delabitur, ut dis, quos confitetur ab hominibus fieri, semper uelit homines subdi et haec futuro tempore plangat auferri quasi quicquam sit infelicius homine, cui sua figmenta dominantur; cum sit facilius, ut tamquam deos colendo, quos fecit, nec ipse sit homo, quam ut per eius cultum di possint esse, quos fecit homo. Citius enim fit, ut homo in honore positus pecoribus non intellegens conparetur, quam ut operi Dei ad eius imaginem facto, id est ipsi homini, opus hominis praeferatur. Quapropter merito homo deficit ab illo qui eum fecit, cum sibi praeficit ipse quod fecit. Haec uana deceptoria, perniciosa sacrilega Hermes Aegyptius, quia tempus, quo auferrentur, uenturum sciebat, dolebat; sed tam inpudenter dolebat, quam inprudenter sciebat. Non enim haec ei reuelauerat sanctus Spiritus, sicut prophetis sanctis, qui haec praeuidentes cum exultatione dicebant: Si faciet homo deos, et ecce ipsi non sunt di; et alio loco: Erit in illo die, dicit Dominus, exterminabo nomina simulacrorum a terra, et non iam erit eorum memoria; proprie uero de Aegypto, quod ad hanc rem adtinet, ita sanctus Esaias prophetat: Et mouebuntur manufacta Aegypti a facie eius, et cor eorum uincetur in eis, et cetera huius modi. Ex quo genere et illi erant, qui uenturum quod sciebant uenisse gaudebant; qualis Symeon, qualis Anna, qui mox natum Iesum, qualis Elisabeth, quae etiam conceptum in Spiritu agnouit; qualis Petrus reuelante Patre dicens: Tu es Christus, filius Dei uiui. Huic autem Aegyptio illi spiritus indicauerant futura tempora perditionis suae, qui etiam praesenti in carne Domino trementes dixerunt: Quid uenisti ante tempus perdere nos? siue quia subitum illis fuit, quod futurum quidem, sed tardius opinabantur, siue quia perditionem suam hanc ipsam dicebant, qua fiebat ut cogniti spernerentur, et hoc erat ante tempus, id est ante tempus iudicii, quo aeterna damnatione puniendi sunt cum omnibus etiam hominibus, qui eorum societate detinentur, sicut religio loquitur, quae nec fallit nec fallitur, non sicut iste quasi omni uento doctrinae hinc adque inde perflatus et falsis uera permiscens dolet quasi perituram religionem, quem postea confitetur errorem.
Chapter 23. What Hermes Trismegistus thought about idolatry, and how he could know that the Egyptian superstitions would be abolished.
Hermes the Egyptian, whom they call Trismegistus, thought and wrote differently about them. For Apuleius indeed denies that they are gods; but when he says that they occupy a middle position between gods and men, so that they seem necessary for men with the gods themselves, he does not separate their worship from the religion of the gods above. But that Egyptian says that some gods were made by the supreme God and others by men. Whoever hears this, as I have put it, thinks it is said of images, because they are the work of men's hands. But he asserts that the visible and tangible images are, as it were, the bodies of the gods, and that certain spirits invited into them dwell in them, which have some power either to harm or to fulfil some desires of those by whom divine honors and the services of worship are paid them. To join these invisible spirits by a certain art to visible things of bodily matter, so that images dedicated and subject to those spirits may be like animated bodies — this, he says, is to make gods; and men, he says, have received this great and wonderful power of making gods. I shall set down the words of this Egyptian as they have been translated into our language. “And since,” he says, “our discourse concerns the kinship and fellowship of men and gods, know, O Asclepius, the power and strength of man. As the Lord and Father,” he says, “or, what is highest, God, is the maker of the heavenly gods, so man is the fashioner of the gods who are in the temples, content to be near to men.” And shortly after: “So humanity,” he says, “always mindful of its nature and origin, persists in that imitation of divinity, so that, as the Father and Lord made the gods eternal to be like himself, so humanity fashioned its gods in the likeness of its own countenance.” Here, when Asclepius, to whom he was chiefly speaking, had answered him and said, “You mean statues, O Trismegistus?” he said: “Statues, O Asclepius. You see how far you yourself distrust. Statues animated, full of sense and spirit, and doing such great things; statues foreknowing the future and foretelling it by lot, by seer, by dreams and by many other things; statues that bring infirmities on men and cure them, giving sadness and gladness according to deserts. Or do you not know, O Asclepius, that Egypt is the image of heaven, or, what is truer, the transference or descent of all things that are governed and exercised in heaven? And, if it must be said more truly, our land is the temple of the whole world. And yet, since it befits the prudent to foreknow all things, it is not right that you should be ignorant of this: a time is to come when it will appear that the Egyptians have kept the divinity with pious mind and diligent religion in vain.” Then Hermes follows up this passage at length, in which he seems to foretell this time in which the Christian religion, the truer and holier it is, the more vehemently and freely overturns all deceitful fictions, so that the grace of the most true Savior may free man from the gods whom man makes, and subject him to the God by whom man was made. But when Hermes foretells these things, he speaks as a friend of those same delusions of the demons, and does not express the Christian name plainly; but, as if those things were being taken away and destroyed by whose observance the likeness of heaven was preserved in Egypt, he bears witness to them, lamenting that they will come, by a kind of mournful prophecy. For he was one of those of whom the apostle says that, “knowing God, they did not glorify him as God or give thanks, but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened; for, claiming to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of corruptible man,” and the rest, which it would be long to mention. For he says many such things about the one true God, the maker of the world, as the truth holds; and somehow, by that darkening of the heart, he slides down to these things, so that he would always have men subject to the gods whom he confesses are made by men, and laments that these will be taken away in the future — as if anything were more unhappy than man when his own fictions lord it over him. For it is easier for man, by worshipping as gods those whom he has made, to cease to be a man himself, than for those whom man has made to become gods through his worship. For it happens more readily that “man, when placed in honor, not understanding, is compared to the beasts,” than that the work of man should be preferred to the work of God made in his image, that is, to man himself. Therefore man rightly falls away from him who made him, when he sets over himself what he himself has made. Hermes the Egyptian grieved over these empty, deceptive, pernicious, sacrilegious things because he knew that the time was coming when they would be taken away; but he grieved as shamelessly as he knew imprudently. For the Holy Spirit had not revealed these things to him as to the holy prophets, who, foreseeing them, said with exultation: “If man makes gods, behold, they are not gods”; and in another place: “It shall be in that day, says the Lord, I will destroy the names of the idols from the earth, and there shall be no more remembrance of them.” And concerning Egypt in particular, as far as this matter is concerned, holy Isaiah prophesies thus: “And the works of Egypt's hands shall be moved at his presence, and their heart shall be overcome in them,” and so on. Of this kind also were those who rejoiced that what they knew was to come had come: such as Simeon, such as Anna, who at once recognized Jesus when he was born; such as Elizabeth, who recognized him in the Spirit even when he was conceived; such as Peter, saying by the Father's revelation, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” But to this Egyptian the times of their own destruction had been indicated by those spirits who, trembling, said to the Lord when he was present in the flesh: “Why have you come to destroy us before the time?” — either because it came suddenly on them, which they thought would indeed come, but later; or because they called this very thing their destruction, that being known they were despised; and this was “before the time,” that is, before the time of judgment, when they are to be punished with eternal damnation together with all men too who are held in their fellowship — as the religion says which neither deceives nor is deceived, not as this man says, who, blown this way and that as if by every wind of doctrine and mixing false with true, grieves as though over a perishing religion, which he afterwards confesses to be error.
Rom 1:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 1:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 49:12 (48:13 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 16:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Zech 13:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 19:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 2:25 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 2:36 (allusion, high confidence) · Luke 1:41 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 16:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 8:29 (quotation, high confidence) · Eph 4:14 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine quotes Hermes Trismegistus on men 'making gods' by joining spirits to statues and on the coming end of Egyptian religion, and contrasts his lament with the joy of the prophets who foretold the fall of idols.
- Quotes the Latin Asclepius 23–24 (Hermetic corpus). Scripture: Rom 1:21–23; Ps 49:12 (48:13 LXX); Jer 16:20; Zech 13:2; Isa 19:1; Luke 2:25–38 (Simeon and Anna); Luke 1:41–45 (Elizabeth); Matt 16:16; Matt 8:29; Eph 4:14 (“every wind of doctrine”). The demons' cry is given in Augustine's form, “to destroy us.”
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (line-end hyphenation and stray period; stray parenthesis; stray period for comma): diui-. nitatis → diuinitatis; Trismegiste?) → Trismegiste?; facit homo. et ei Deo → facit homo, et ei Deo.
Extrabiblical texts: Corp. herm. Asclep. 23–24 (Hermetic writings; quotation)
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.23 (CSEL 40:392–396; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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8.24CSEL 40:396–401
CAPUT XXIIII. Quo modo Hermes parentum suorum sit confessus errorem, quem tamen doluerit destruendum. Post multa enim ad hoc ipsum redit, ut iterum dicat de dis, quos homines fecerunt, ita loquens: Sed iam de talibus sint satis dicta talia. Iterum, inquit, ad hominem rationemque redeamus, ex quo diuino dono [homo] animal dictum est rationale. Minus enim miranda etsi miranda sunt, quae de homine dicta sunt. Omnium enim mirabilium uicit admirationem, quod homo diuinam potuit inuenire naturam eamque efficere. Quoniam ergo proaui nostri multum errabant circa deorum rationem increduli et non animaduertentes ad cultum religionemque diuinam, inuenerunt artem, qua efficerent deos. Cui inuentae adiunxerunt uirtutem de mundi natura conuenientem, eamque miscentes, quoniam animas facere non poterant, euocantes animas daemonum uel angelorum eas indiderunt imaginibus sanctis diuinisque mysteriis, per quas idola et bene faciendi et male uires habere potuissent. Nescio utrum sic confiterentur ipsi daemones adiurati, quo modo iste confessus est. Quoniam, inquit, proaui nostri multum errabant circa deorum rationem increduli et non animaduertentes ad cultum religionemque diuinam, inuenerunt artem qua efficerent deos. Numquidnam saltem mediocriter eos dixit errasse, ut hanc artem inuenirent faciendi deos, aut contentus fuit dicere: Errabant, nisi adderet et diceret: Multum errabant? Iste ergo multus error et incredulitas non animaduertentium ad cultum religionemque diuinam inuenit artem, qua efficeret deos. Et tamen quod multus error et incredulitas et a cultu ac religione diuina auersio animi inuenit, ut homo arte faceret deos, hoc dolet uir sapiens tamquam religionem diuinam uenturo certo tempore auferri. Vide si non et ui diuina maiorum suorum errorem praeteritum prodere, et ui diabolica poenam daemonum futuram dolere conpellitur. Si enim proaui eorum multum errando circa deorum rationem incredulitate et auersione animi a cultu ac religione diuina inuenerunt artem, qua efficerent deos: quid mirum, si, haec ars detestanda quidquid fecit auersa a religione diuina, aufertur religione diuina, cum ueritas emendat errorem, fides redarguit incredulitatem, conuersio corrigit auersionem? Si enim tacitis causis dixisset proauos suos inuenisse artem, qua facerent deos: nostrum fuit utique, si quid rectum piumque saperemus, adtendere et uidere nequaquam illos ad hanc artem peruenturos fuisse, qua homo deos facit, si a ueritate non aberrarent, si ea, quae Deo digna sunt, crederent, si animum aduerterent ad cultum religionemque diuinam; et tamen si causas artis huius nos diceremus multum errorem hominum et incredulitatem et animi errantis adque infidelis a diuina religione auersionem, utcumque ferenda esset inpudentia resistentium ueritati. Cum uero idem ipse, qui potestatem huius artis super omnia cetera miratur in homine, qua illi deos facere concessum est, et dolet uenturum esse tempus, quo haec omnia deorum figmenta ab hominibus instituta etiam legibus iubeantur auferri, confitetur tamen adque exprimit causas, quare ad ista peruentum sit, dicens proauos suos multo errore et incredulitate et animum non aduertendo ad cultum religionemque diuinam inuenisse hanc artem, qua facerent deos: nos quid oportet dicere, uel potius quid agere nisi quantas possumus gratias Domino Deo nostro, qui haec contrariis causis, quam instituta sunt, abstulit? Nam quod instituit multitudo erroris, abstulit uia ueritatis; quod instituit incredulitas, abstulit fides; quod instituit a cultu diuinae religionis auersio, abstulit ad unum uerum Deum sanctumque conuersio; nec in sola Aegypto, quam solam in isto plangit daemonum spiritus, sed in omni terra, quae cantat Domino canticum nouum, sicut uere sacrae et uere propheticae litterae praenuntiarunt, ubi scriptum est: Cantate Domino canticum nouum, cantate Domino omnis terra. Titulus quippe psalmi huius est: Quando domus aedificabatur post captiuitatem. Aedificatur enim domus Domino ciuitas Dei, quae est sancta ecclesia, in omni terra post eam captiuitatem, qua illos homines, de quibus credentibus in Deum tamquam lapidibus uiuis domus aedificatur, captos daemonia possidebant. Neque enim, quia deos homo faciebat, ideo non ab eis possidebatur ipse qui fecerat, quando in eorum societatem colendo traducebatur; societatem dico, non idolorum stolidorum, sed uersutorum daemoniorum. Nam quid sunt idola, nisi quod eadem scriptura dicit: Oculos habent, et non uidebunt, et quidquid tale de materiis licet adfabre effigiatis, tamen uita sensuque carentibus dicendum fuit. Sed inmundi spiritus eisdem simulacris arte illa nefaria conligati cultorum suorum animas in suam societatem redigendo miserabiliter captiuauerant. Unde dicit apostolus: Scimus quia nihil est idolum; sed quae immolant gentes, daemoniis immolant, et non Deo; nolo uos socios fieri daemoniorum. Post hanc ergo captiuitatem, qua homines a malignis daemonibus tenebantur, Dei domus aedificatur in omni terra; unde titulum ille psalmus accepit, ubi dicitur: Cantate Domino canticum nouum, cantate Domino omnis terra. Cantate Domino, benedicite nomen eius, bene nuntiate diem ex die salutare eius. Adnuntiate in gentibus gloriam eius, in omnibus populis mirabilia eius; quoniam magnus Dominus et laudabilis nimis, terribilis est super omnes deos. Quia omnes di gentium daemonia, dominus autem caelos fecit. Qui ergo doluit uenturum fuisse tempus, quo auferretur cultus idolorum et in eos, qui colerent, dominatio daemoniorum, malo spiritu instigatus semper uolebat istam captiuitatem manere, qua transacta psalmus canit aedificari domum in omni terra. Praenuntiabat illa Hermes dolendo; praenuntiabat haec propheta gaudendo. Et quia Spiritus uictor est, qui haec per sanctos prophetas canebat, etiam Hermes ipse ea, quae nolebat et dolebat auferri, non a prudentibus et fidelibus et religiosis, sed ab errantibus et incredulis et a cultu diuinae religionis auersis esse instituta miris modis coactus est confiteri. Qui quamuis eos appellet deos, tamen cum dicit a talibus hominibus factos, quales esse utique non debemus, uelit nolit, ostendit colendos non esse ab eis, qui tales non sunt, quales fuerunt a quibus facti sunt, hoc est a prudentibus, fidelibus, religiosis; simul etiam demonstrans ipsos homines, qui eos fecerunt, sibimet inportasse, ut eos haberent deos, qui non erant di. Verum est quippe illud propheticum: Si faciet homo deos, et ecce ipsi non sunt di. Deos ergo tales, talium deos, arte factos a talibus, cum appellasset Hermes, id est idolis daemones per artem nescio quam cupiditatum suarum uinculis inligatos cum appellaret factos ab hominibus deos, non tamen eis dedit, quod Platonicus Apuleius (unde iam satis diximus et quam sit inconueniens absurdumque monstrauimus), ut ipsi essent interpretes et intercessores inter deos, quos fecit Deus, et homines, quos idem fecit Deus; hinc adferentes uota, inde munera referentes. Nimis enim stultum est credere deos, quos fecerunt homines, plus ualere aput deos, quos fecit Deus, quam ualent ipsi homines, quos idem ipse fecit Deus. Daemon quippe simulacro arte inpia conligatus ab homine factus est deus, sed tali homini, non omni homini. Qualis est ergo iste deus, quem non faceret homo nisi errans et incredulus et auersus a uero Deo? Porro si daemones, qui coluntur in templis, per artem nescio quam imaginibus inditi, hoc est uisibilibus simulacris, ab eis hominibus, qui hac arte fecerunt deos, cum aberrarent auersique essent a cultu et religione diuina, non sunt internuntii nec interpretes inter homines et deos et propter suos pessimos ac turpissimos mores, et quod homines, quamuis errantes et increduli et auersi a cultu ac religione diuina, tamen eis sine dubio meliores sunt, quos deos ipsi arte fecerunt; restat, ut, quod possunt, tamquam daemones possint, uel quasi beneficia praestando magis nocentes, quia magis decipientes, uel aperte malefaciendo (nec tamen quodlibet horum, nisi quando permittuntur alta et secreta Dei prouidentia), non autem tamquam medii inter homines et deos per amicitiam deorum multum aput homines ualeant. Hi enim dis bonis, quos sanctos angelos nos uocamus rationalesque creaturas sanctae caelestis habitationis siue sedes siue dominationes siue principatus siue potestates, amici esse omnino non possunt, a quibus tam longe absunt animi affectione, quam longe absunt a uirtutibus uitia et a bonitate malitia.
Chapter 24. How Hermes confessed the error of his forefathers, which he nevertheless grieved was to be destroyed.
For after much else he returns to this very point, speaking again about the gods whom men made, thus: “But now let such things suffice on such matters. Let us return again,” he says, “to man and to reason, by which divine gift he has been called a rational animal. For the things that have been said about man are less wonderful, though they are wonderful. For what surpasses the wonder of all wonders is that man has been able to discover the divine nature and to make it. Since, then, our forefathers erred greatly concerning the account of the gods, being unbelieving and not turning their minds to worship and divine religion, they discovered an art by which to make gods. To this discovery they joined a suitable power from the nature of the world; and mixing it, since they could not make souls, they called up the souls of demons or angels and put them into sacred images and divine mysteries, through which the idols might have the power of doing both good and evil.” I do not know whether the demons themselves, when adjured, would confess as this man has confessed. “Since,” he says, “our forefathers erred greatly concerning the account of the gods, being unbelieving and not turning their minds to worship and divine religion, they discovered an art by which to make gods.” Did he say that they erred at least moderately, so as to discover this art of making gods? Or was he content to say, “they erred,” without adding, “they erred greatly”? This great error, then, and the unbelief of those who did not turn their minds to worship and divine religion, discovered the art by which to make gods. And yet what great error, unbelief, and a mind turned away from worship and divine religion discovered — that man should make gods by art — this the wise man laments as divine religion being taken away at a certain time to come. See whether he is not compelled by divine power to disclose the past error of his ancestors, and by diabolical power to lament the coming punishment of the demons. For if their forefathers, by erring greatly about the account of the gods, through unbelief and a mind turned away from worship and divine religion, discovered the art by which to make gods, what wonder if whatever this detestable art made, turned away from divine religion, is taken away by divine religion — when truth corrects error, faith refutes unbelief, and conversion corrects aversion? For if he had said, without mentioning the causes, that his forefathers discovered the art by which to make gods, it would certainly have been our part, if we had any right and pious sense, to notice and see that they would never have come to this art by which man makes gods if they had not strayed from the truth, if they had believed what is worthy of God, if they had turned their minds to worship and divine religion. And yet, if we ourselves said that the causes of this art were the great error of men, their unbelief, and the aversion of an erring and unfaithful mind from divine religion, the shamelessness of those who resist the truth would be somewhat tolerable. But when this same man, who admires above all else in man the power of this art by which he is granted to make gods, and grieves that a time is coming when all these fictions of gods instituted by men will be ordered by law to be taken away, nevertheless confesses and expresses the causes by which men came to these things, saying that his forefathers, through great error and unbelief and not turning their minds to worship and divine religion, discovered this art by which to make gods — what ought we to say, or rather to do, but give as great thanks as we can to the Lord our God, who has taken these things away by causes contrary to those by which they were instituted? For what the multitude of error instituted, the way of truth took away; what unbelief instituted, faith took away; what aversion from the worship of divine religion instituted, conversion to the one true and holy God took away — not in Egypt alone, which alone the spirit of the demons laments in this man, but in all the earth, which sings to the Lord a new song, as the truly sacred and truly prophetic writings foretold, where it is written: “Sing to the Lord a new song; sing to the Lord, all the earth.” For the title of this psalm is: “When the house was being built after the captivity.” For the city of God, which is the holy church, is being built as a house for the Lord in all the earth after that captivity in which the demons held captive those men of whom, as they believe in God, the house is built as of living stones. For it was not the case that, because man was making gods, he who made them was not himself possessed by them, when by worshipping he was drawn into fellowship with them — fellowship, I mean, not with stupid idols but with cunning demons. For what are idols but what the same Scripture says: “They have eyes and will not see,” and whatever else of the kind had to be said of materials that, however skillfully shaped, lack life and sense? But the unclean spirits, bound to these same images by that wicked art, had pitiably taken captive the souls of their worshippers by bringing them into fellowship with themselves. Hence the apostle says: “We know that an idol is nothing; but what the gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; I do not want you to become partners of demons.” After this captivity, then, in which men were held by malignant demons, the house of God is being built in all the earth; hence that psalm received its title, where it is said: “Sing to the Lord a new song; sing to the Lord, all the earth. Sing to the Lord, bless his name; announce the good news of his salvation from day to day. Declare his glory among the nations, his wonders among all peoples; for the Lord is great and exceedingly to be praised, he is terrible above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are demons, but the Lord made the heavens.” He, then, who grieved that a time was to come in which the worship of idols and the dominion of the demons over their worshippers would be taken away, driven by an evil spirit, always wanted this captivity to remain, at the end of which the psalm sings that the house is being built in all the earth. Hermes foretold those things with grief; the prophet foretold these with joy. And because the Spirit is victorious who sang these things through the holy prophets, even Hermes himself was compelled in wonderful ways to confess that the things he did not want to be taken away, and grieved to see taken away, were instituted not by the prudent, the faithful, and the religious, but by those who erred, disbelieved, and were turned away from the worship of divine religion. Though he calls them gods, yet when he says that they were made by such men as we certainly ought not to be, he shows, willing or unwilling, that they are not to be worshipped by those who are not such as those by whom they were made, that is, by the prudent, the faithful, the religious; showing at the same time that the very men who made them brought it on themselves to have as gods those who were not gods. For that prophetic word is true: “If man makes gods, behold, they are not gods.” When Hermes, then, called such gods, the gods of such men, made by art by such men — that is, when he called demons bound to idols by some art or other through the chains of their own desires “gods made by men” — he did not, however, give them what the Platonist Apuleius gave (about which we have said enough already and shown how unfitting and absurd it is): that they should be interpreters and intercessors between the gods whom God made and the men whom the same God made, carrying vows from here and bringing back gifts from there. For it is too foolish to believe that gods whom men made have more influence with the gods whom God made than men themselves have, whom the same God made. For a demon bound to an image by an impious art has been made a god by a man, but for such a man, not for every man. What kind of god, then, is this, whom a man would not make unless he were erring, unbelieving, and turned away from the true God? Further, the demons who are worshipped in temples, put into images, that is, visible statues, by some art or other, by those men who made gods by this art when they strayed and were turned away from worship and divine religion, are not go-betweens and interpreters between men and gods — both because of their most wicked and shameful morals, and because men, however erring, unbelieving, and turned away from worship and divine religion, are without doubt better than those whom they themselves made gods by art. It remains, then, that what they can do, they can do as demons — either doing more harm by seeming to confer benefits, since they deceive more, or by openly doing evil (and neither of these except when they are permitted by the deep and secret providence of God) — but not that they have great influence with men as mediators between men and gods through the friendship of the gods. For they can in no way be friends to the good gods, whom we call holy angels and rational creatures of the holy heavenly dwelling — whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers — from whom they are as far removed in the affection of their minds as vices are from virtues and malice from goodness.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
Ps 96:1 (95:1 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 96:2 (95:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 96:3 (95:3 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 96:4 (95:4 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 96:5 (95:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Pet 2:5 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 115:5 (113:13 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:19 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 10:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Jer 16:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine seizes on Hermes' admission that idol-making arose from his ancestors' error and unbelief, and sets his lament beside the psalm's joyful 'new song' of the church built in all the earth.
- Quotes the Latin Asclepius 37. Scripture: Ps 96:1–5 (95:1–5 LXX), whose LXX/Vulgate title is “When the house was being built after the captivity”; 1 Pet 2:5 (“living stones”); Ps 115:5 (113:13 LXX); 1 Cor 10:19–20; Jer 16:20; Col 1:16. “All the gods of the nations are demons” follows the LXX/Latin wording of Ps 96:5. The editor deletes “homo” before “animal dictum est rationale”.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR: e read as o; repeated letter; stray comma; stray period for comma): potuissent., → potuissent.; errrabant → errabant; inuenisse artem. qua facerent → inuenisse artem, qua facerent; daemonum spiritus. sed → daemonum spiritus, sed; Cantate Domino. benedicite → Cantate Domino, benedicite; turpissimos moros → turpissimos mores.
Extrabiblical texts: Corp. herm. Asclep. 37 (Hermetic writings; quotation)
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.24 (CSEL 40:396–401; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hoffmann's Latin text (CSEL 40, 1899–1900); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 2 translation (Dods, 1887).
8.25CSEL 40:401–402
CAPUT XXV. De his, quae sanctis angelis et hominibus bonis possunt esse communia. Nullo modo igitur per daemonum quasi medietatem ambiendum est ad beneuolentiam seu beneficentiam deorum uel potius angelorum bonorum, sed per bonae uoluntatis similitudinem, qua cum illis sumus et cum illis uiuimus et cum illis Deum quem colunt colimus, etsi eos carnalibus oculis uidere non possumus; in quantum autem dissimilitudine uoluntatis et fragilitate infirmitatis miseri sumus, in tantum ab eis longe sumus uitae merito, non corporis loco. Non enim quia in terra condicione carnis habitamus, sed si inmunditia cordis terrena sapimus, non eis iungimur. Cum uero sanamur, ut quales ipsi sunt simus; fide illis interim propinquamus, si ab illo nos fieri beatos, a quo et ipsi facti sunt, etiam ipsis fauentibus credimus.
Chapter 25. On the things that can be common to the holy angels and good men.
In no way, then, is the good will or beneficence of the gods, or rather of the good angels, to be courted through the supposed mediation of demons, but through likeness of good will, by which we are with them, live with them, and worship with them the God whom they worship, even if we cannot see them with the eyes of the flesh. But in so far as we are wretched through unlikeness of will and the frailty of weakness, so far are we distant from them by the merit of our life, not by the place of our body. For it is not because we dwell on the earth by the condition of the flesh, but if by uncleanness of heart we savor earthly things, that we are not joined to them. But when we are healed so as to be such as they are, we draw near to them meanwhile by faith, if, with their favor too, we believe that we are made happy by him by whom they also were made happy.
Notes and citation
Summary: Augustine teaches that we come near the good angels not through demons but by likeness of will and faith in the God who makes both them and us happy.
Cite (SBL): Augustine, Civ. 8.25 (CSEL 40:401–402; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-civitate-dei/8-18/#p-8-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from Hoffmann's Latin text (CSEL 40, 1899–1900); compared afterwards with the NPNF¹ 2 translation (Dods, 1887).