On the Generation of the Divine Word (to Candidus) 23–32
Latin text: Migne, PL 8 (Latin text: Migne PL 8, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 23
23PL 8:1031c–1032a
Id si ita est, neque ex nihilo Jesus, qui ab eo quod est esse, apparuit actio; cum ipsa actio, et hoc fuit quod est esse: neque non est propter ista duo τό ό/χοούσιον; quia idem est, quod substantiae unius ejusdem est. Unum utique est una actio: quippe cum ipsum agere et esse sit. Hic est filius, hic a patre, hic circa Deum, hic qui in gremio patris, hic est intus, hic est foris. Opere enim foris, in eo quod est esse intus: et in Patre ipse Deus in Deo, qui idem omnino est ei: actione autem qui sit filius. Et ubicumque est, et esse est et actio: et isto modo, et pater est et Deus est, et filius est et λόγος.
If this is so, Jesus is not from nothing, for he appeared as action from that which is being, since action itself was also that which is being; nor, because there are these two, is the homoousios lacking, for that is the same which is of one and the same substance. One action, certainly, is one, since it is both acting and being. This is the Son, he is from the Father, he is with God, he is in the bosom of the Father, he is within, he is without. For by his work he is without; by that which is being, within; and in the Father he is God in God, who is altogether the same as he; but by action he is the Son. And wherever he is, he is both being and action; and in this way he is both Father and God, and Son and Word.
John 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus concludes that the Son, as the action of the Father's being, is not from nothing but homoousios with the Father, God in God.
- “Homoousios” renders τὸ ὁμοούσιον (garbled in the digital text).
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 23 (PL 8:1031c–1032a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/23). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 24
24PL 8:1032a–1032b
Ubi igitur est ille nefarius intellectus et blasphemas? Ubi habet locum aliud quid esse, et ab alio habet locum? Ubi est quod amplius dicit, ex nihilo esse Jesum Christum, filium Dei? Ubi est illud, quod nihilum est? Quomodo quod nihilum est, potest incidere in Deum aut in cogitationem Dei? Vera enim excogitatio, ex veris est. Porro quod vere non est, falsum est. Non igitur excogitat Deus, quod vere non est. Sed nos fallit, quoniam Dei potentia in isto magis credimus, si ab iis quae vere non sunt, efficiat ea quae vere sunt. Sed in quantum Dei potentia omnia potest, in tantum juxta quod potentia est, nihil aliud generat quam quorum potentia est ut sint. Eorum autem quae vere non sunt omnimodis, omnino nulla potentia est.
Where, then, is that wicked and blasphemous understanding? Where is there room for something to be other, and to have its room from another? Where is what it goes on to say, that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is from nothing? Where is that which is nothing? How can what is nothing fall upon God, or into God's thought? For true thinking comes from true things; and what truly is not is false. God therefore does not think what truly is not. But we deceive ourselves, since we think God's power is greater in this, if he makes things that truly are from things that truly are not. But insofar as God's power can do all things, insofar as it is power, it begets nothing other than the things for which there is power to be. And for things that in every way truly are not, there is no power at all.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus rejects the claim that the Son came from nothing, since what truly is not cannot even be thought by God, and God's power begets only what has the power to be.
Topics: Christology, Heresy, Arianism
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 24 (PL 8:1032a–1032b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/24). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 25
25PL 8:1032b–1032c
Quomodo ergo nulla existente potentia eorum quae vere non sunt, effecta est actio eorum quae sunt? Quippe si est Dei potentia, ut ad esse ducantur ea quae esse non possunt, jam secundum potentiam habent esse, vel sunt δντα, illa ipsa quae omnino sunt μή δντα. Et idcirco non esse illa diximus, quae in abscondito posita et in potentia, nondum tamen apparuerunt in actione. Fuerunt enim omnia in Deo. Eorum enim omnium quae sunt, λόγος semen est. Λόγος enim in Deo: in operatione, id est in virtute Dei, qui est filius Dei, apparuerunt omnia quae facta sunt.
How, then, since there is no power belonging to the things that truly are not, was the action of the things that are brought about? For if it is God's power that leads into being the things that cannot be, then by power they already have being, or are existents, those very things which are wholly non-existents. And that is why we said that those things are not which, placed in hiding and in power, have not yet appeared in action. For all things were in God. For the Word is the seed of all things that are. For the Word is in God: in the operation, that is, in the power of God, who is the Son of God, all the things that were made appeared.
John 1:3 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that all things existed potentially in God, the Word being their seed, and appeared in action through the Son.
- “Existents” and “non-existents” render ὄντα and μὴ ὄντα.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): omnino siai → omnino sunt.
Topics: Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 25 (PL 8:1032b–1032c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/25). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 26
26PL 8:1032c–1033b
Sed dicunt quidam sacrilegi: Si circa Deum fuit λόγος, et supra gremium Dei exsistens filius, non intus in gremio, sed foris intelligitur. Quid vero? Anima homini inspiravit Deus ex se, ex intus: omnium autem creatorem, liberatorem ac sanctificatorem illius ipsius animae, et totius corporis redemptorem et erectorem, non ex intus? Nonne angelicam naturam ex intus emisit? Quando autem hominem de terra formavit, et altera pecora et quadrupedia, et rursus ex aqua animantia cuncta, et caeterorum in acre ea ex alio in aliud, et illud ex quo primum ex iis quae non sunt: Jesum vero unde dicis? Ante omnia namque filius. Num ergo ab inani, et omnino de nullo? Deinde corpus ejus formavit: animam vero aut spiritum corpus non habuit, antequam in mundum ingrederetur? Habuitne animam? Eam igitur insufflavit, sive insibilavit: neque enim in eum. Quomodo enim in ipsum, cum nondum haberet corpus? Sed si quod insibilavit, fuit id ipsum filius. Si istud ita est, est ergo a Deo filius: sic et spiritus. Non enim ex nihilo spiritus. Dicit enim Deus: Omnem spiritum ego emisi. Insufflando ergo, super se insufflavit Deus, et sic natus est filius: non ergo fecit illum Deus. Non ergo circa Deum vel supra gremium foris est, sed intus. Utrumque testificatur David dicens: Eructavit cor meum Verbum bonum. Non ergo, quod est filius, factum est, sicut omnia: contra id quod dicit Deus. Nam si factus est; antequam fieret, non erat Verbum Dei.
But certain sacrilegious men say: “If the Word was with God, and the Son existed upon God's bosom, he is understood to be not inside in the bosom but outside.” What then? God breathed into man a soul from himself, from within; and the creator of all things, the liberator and sanctifier of that very soul, the redeemer and raiser of the whole body, was he not from within? Did he not send forth the angelic nature from within? But when he formed man from the earth, and the other beasts and four-footed creatures, and again all living things from the water, and the rest in the air, one thing out of another, and that from which the first came out of the things that are not: from where do you say Jesus is? For the Son is before all things. From the void, then, and from nothing at all? Then he formed his body; but did he not have a soul or spirit before he entered the world? Did he have a soul? Then God breathed it, or whispered it, forth; for not into him. For how into him, when he did not yet have a body? But if what he breathed forth was the Son himself, if this is so, then the Son is from God; and so too the Spirit. For the spirit is not from nothing. For God says: “Every spirit I have sent forth.” By breathing, then, God breathed forth from himself, and so the Son was born: God, then, did not make him. So he is not outside, with God or upon his bosom, but inside. David testifies to both, saying: “My heart has poured forth a good Word.” What the Son is, then, was not made as all things were made at God's word. For if he was made, then before he was made there was no Word of God.
John 1:1 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:18 (allusion, high confidence) · Gen 2:7 (allusion, high confidence) · Isa 57:16 (quotation, low confidence) · Ps 45:1 (44:2 LXX) (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus answers the objection that “with God” means outside God: as God breathed the soul from within, so the Son was breathed forth from within, as Psalm 45 says, and was not made.
- “Every spirit I have sent forth” is close to Isa 57:16 (Septuagint, “I have made every breath”). Ps 45:1 (Septuagint and Vulgate 44:2) is read of the Father uttering the Word. “Made … at God's word” translates the obscure “contra id quod dicit Deus” by sense (compare Ps 33:9, “he spoke, and it was made”).
Topics: Christology, Trinity, Heresy
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 26 (PL 8:1032c–1033b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/26). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 27
27PL 8:1033b–1033c
Quid igitur dicimus? Nonne est necessarium confiteri, si Verbum fecit omnia, primum omnium esse Verbum, velut Verbum omnimodis Verbum, Verbum quod nos et prophetae et evangelistae nominamus λόγον et filium? Moses sic dicit: In principio fecit Deus coelum et terram. Secundum Aquilam hoc idem sic: In capitulo fecit Deus: ut Hebraei Mosis dictum pronuntiant: sive in principio, sive in capitulo, in Christo eum fecit Deus. Principium ergo et caput, Christus. Et hoc frequenter dicitur: Creavit omnia in Christo. λόγος enim Christus ut semen est omnium. Primus ergo Christus: ante enim omnem creaturam fuit. Unde igitur Christus? Si Verbum est, a Deo: si voluntas, a Deo: si autem motus aut actio, a Deo: et si ipsum agere et esse est, juxta ipsum esse pater est, filius autem actio est: et quoniam ipsum esse actio est, et agere est esse; idcirco ομοούσιον et pater αύτός λόγος.
What, then, do we say? Is it not necessary to confess that, if the Word made all things, the Word is first of all, as the Word that is in every way Word, the Word whom we and the prophets and evangelists call Logos and Son? Moses says: “In the beginning God made heaven and earth.” According to Aquila the same is: “In the head God made”, as the Hebrews pronounce the saying of Moses: whether “in the beginning” or “in the head”, God made it in Christ. Christ, then, is beginning and head. And this is often said: “He created all things in Christ.” For Christ, the Word, is as it were the seed of all things. Christ, then, is first, for he was before all creation. Where, then, is Christ from? If he is the Word, from God; if will, from God; if motion or action, from God; and if acting itself is being, then according to being itself there is the Father, and the Son is action; and since being itself is action, and acting is being, therefore the Father and the Word himself are homoousios.
Gen 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:16 (allusion, high confidence) · Eph 3:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 1:15 (allusion, high confidence) · Col 1:17 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus reads Genesis 1:1 (with Aquila's “in the head”) as creation in Christ, the first of all, and concludes that the Father and the Word are homoousios.
- Aquila's Greek version of the Old Testament (2nd century) rendered “in the beginning” as ἐν κεφαλαίῳ (“in the head, in sum”). Greek in this section: λόγος (Word), ὁμοούσιον (homoousios), αὐτὸς λόγος (the Word himself; garbled in the digital text). “He created all things in Christ” combines Col 1:16 and Eph 3:9.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slips): αύτό; λόγο; → αύτός λόγος.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 27 (PL 8:1033b–1033c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/27). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 28
28PL 8:1033c–1034a
Sed quomodo ό/χοούσιον, nondum exsistente substantia? Nomina vero ab iis quae posterius sunt, et ab iis quae post Deum, et inventa et assumpta sunt. Et quoniam non est invenire nomen dignum Deo, ab iis quae scimus nominamus Deum; habentes in intellectu, quoniam non proprie nominamus nec appellamus: quemadmodum dicimus, Vivit Deus, intelligit Deus. Proinde a nostris actionibus nominamus actiones Dei, existente tamen illo super omnia; neque tantum exitente, sed quasi existente, ουδέ δντω; υπάρχοντας, αλλά δντο; μικρού υπάρχοντας. Isto etiam modo substantium, existentiam, et caetera hujusmodi apponimus Deo, et ejus essentiae ουσίαν aliter dicimus, aliter se habente substantia creata ad quod inest sibi, et ad suum etiam esse.
But how homoousios, when substance does not yet exist? Names are found and taken from the things that are later and from those that are after God. And since no name worthy of God can be found, we name God from the things we know, keeping in mind that we do not name or call him properly; as when we say, “God lives”, “God understands”. So from our actions we name the actions of God, though he exists above all things; and not only existing, but as it were existing, not existing in the way existents exist. In this way too we apply substance, existence and the rest of this kind to God; and we speak of the substance of his essence in another sense, since created substance stands otherwise toward what is in it, and toward its own being.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that names such as substance are applied to God improperly, taken from created things, so “homoousios” can be used though God is above substance.
- The Greek phrase in this section is garbled in the digital text (roughly οὐδὲ ὄντως ὑπάρχοντος, ἀλλὰ ὄντος …); translated by sense. “Substance” at the end renders οὐσίαν.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 28 (PL 8:1033c–1034a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/28). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 29
29PL 8:1034a–1034c
Similiter et cum dicimus, quod Deus factus est Christus vel homo: non quod vere factus sit, sed quoniam unus sit, et in omnibus sit, et omnes in ipso: idcircoque dicatur omnibus omnia factus, ut essent: non quod factus sit ut sed quod effectus sit ad ita esse. Siquidem non dicitur. Filius Dei factus est, sed quod est factus nobis Dominus; sicut Salomon dicit: Et fecisse me supra vias tuas. Nam de aeterna divinaque generatione supponit statim: Ante omnes me genuit Dominus. Dicitque Joannes: Quod factum est, in ipso vita erat. Quid deinde? Nonne Deus creaturam fecit, et in creatura primum coelum et terram? Non ergo fecit Christum. Natus est ergo Christus, non factus. Ubicumque enim dicitur factus, post primum et aeternum generari, dicitur post effectus esse. Sicut de muliere dicitur factus; et in Actibus Apostolorum: Certissime igitur cognoscat domus Israel, quoniam istum Christum Deus fecit, quem tulistis in ligno crucis. Ista omnia post generationem, quae una est et sancta et ineffabilis, haec inquam omnia dicuntur. Non ista dicuntur in ejus existentiam, sed in actus et administrationem potentiae et virtutis ejus. De generatione igitur quae est filius Dei, manifestum est et quod όμοούσιον substanti ejus, in majestate, in propria significantia intelligentiaque, intellecta secundum esse existentiae substantiae. Et sic demonstratum, quomodo ομοούσιον.
Similarly, when we say that God was made Christ, or man, it is not that he was truly made, but because he is one, and is in all, and all are in him; and therefore he is said to have been made all things to all, that they might be; not that he was made, but that he was brought into being so. Indeed it is not said, “The Son of God was made,” but that he was made Lord for us, as Solomon says: “And that he made me over your ways.” For of the eternal and divine generation he adds at once: “Before all things the Lord begot me.” And John says: “What was made, in him was life.” What next? Did not God make the creation, and in the creation first heaven and earth? He did not, then, make Christ. Christ, then, was born, not made. For wherever “made” is said, after the first and eternal generation, it is said of what was brought about afterwards: as he is said to have been made of a woman; and in the Acts of the Apostles: “Let the house of Israel know most certainly, then, that God made this one Christ, whom you hung on the wood of the cross.” All these things are said after the generation, which is one and holy and ineffable; all these, I say. They are not said of his existence, but of the acts and administration of his power and strength. Concerning the generation, then, which is the Son of God, it is plain also that he is homoousios with his substance, in majesty, in its proper signification and understanding, understood according to the being of the existence of substance. And so it has been shown how he is homoousios.
1 Cor 9:22 (allusion, medium confidence) · Prov 8:22 (quotation, medium confidence) · Prov 8:25 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 1:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Gal 4:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Acts 2:36 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 5:30 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus argues that texts saying Christ was “made” (Proverbs 8, Galatians 4, Acts 2) refer to his work after the eternal generation, not to his being, so that he is homoousios with the Father.
- The form of Prov 8:22 quoted here (“made me over your ways”) follows Candidus's citation (Candidus, On the Divine Generation 11); “Before all things the Lord begot me” is Prov 8:25. Acts 2:36 is combined with the phrase “hung on the wood” from Acts 5:30.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 29 (PL 8:1034a–1034c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/29). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 30
30PL 8:1034c–1036a
Habes mi Candide, quod reliquum est dicere. Si filius Dei Jesus, generatione filius. Dicis enim: « Si generatio motus, et motus mutatio; mutationem autem in Deo esse, impossibile est intelligere: ergo nefas dicere necesse est, nonnihil a Deo gignibile: non igitur Jesus Dei generatione filius. » Bono quidem ordine deduxisti: sed quem circumduxisti? Forte me? sed magis te. Dixisti enim, quod fecit Jesus Deum. Quid deinde? Facere nonne motus est? nihilo minus quam agere. Agere enim, facere est: sicut et facere, agere. Ambobus ergo in motu existentibus, necesse est sequi mutationem: quam in Deo constituere, sicut est declaratum, incongruum est. Confitendum igitur aut facere non esse motum, aut non omnem motum esse mutationem. Sed enim facere, motus est: et Deus juxta motum fecit; cui nullo modo mutari contingit, et omnino non congruit quomodolibet accidens recipere. Relinquitur ergo, non omnem motum mutationem esse. Si non omnis motus mutatio est, quid magis eligendum circa Jesum? secundum generationem illum esse, aut secundum effectionem? Juxta divinam intelligentiam, secundum generationem. Etsi enim Deus simul ac dicit, facit quae facit: Sed dicere, motus est, praeexistente silentio: mutatio est igitur, silenti dicere. Si autem per Verbum fecit Deus, ante fuit Verbum quam facere. Si ante fuit Verbum quam facere, Juxta generationem ante fuit. Generat enim ο νους Verbum. Generatio igitur Jesu, qui λόγος est. Quem Jesum gnari rerum dicunt secundum tres modos filium esse, veritate, natura, positione. Secundum veritatem esse filium, hoc ipso quod substantia est: et ipsum idcirco et simul et ejusdem substantiae esse, quomodo et pater et λόγος et filius et Deus. Natura autem filius in animali generatione. Insitione vero in adoptione. Sunt et alii modi: ut moribus, aetate, disciplina: ut Apostolus Paulus dicit: Ego vos genui. Modus igitur secundum veritatem et altior modus est, et omnibus divinior. Quis autem modus sit generationis sive filietatis ejus, sive juxta significatos, sive alios modos: confiteor ego Deo, cujus hoc potentia factum est.
You have, my Candidus, what remains to be said. If Jesus is the Son of God, he is Son by generation. For you say: “If generation is motion, and motion is change, and it is impossible to conceive of change in God, then it must be impious to say that anything can be begotten from God; Jesus, then, is not Son by generation from God.” You have drawn the argument out in good order; but whom have you led astray? Me, perhaps? Rather yourself. For you said that God made Jesus. What then? Is making not motion? No less than acting. For to act is to make, as to make is to act. Since both are in motion, change must follow, and to place that in God, as has been shown, is unfitting. One must confess, then, either that making is not motion, or that not every motion is change. But making is motion; and God made according to motion, God to whom it in no way befalls to be changed, and for whom it is wholly unfitting to receive any accident in any way. It remains, then, that not every motion is change. If not every motion is change, what is rather to be chosen concerning Jesus: that he is by generation, or by making? By divine understanding, by generation. For although God makes what he makes in the very moment he speaks, yet to speak is motion, silence having gone before: speaking, then, is a change for one who was silent. But if God made through the Word, the Word was before the making. If the Word was before the making, he was before it by generation. For the intellect begets the Word. There is, then, a generation of Jesus, who is the Word. Those who know these matters say that Jesus is Son in three modes: by truth, by nature, by position. Son by truth, by the very fact that he is substance; and therefore he is both simultaneous and of the same substance, as are the Father and the Word and the Son and God. Son by nature, in animal generation. Son by grafting in, in adoption. There are also other modes: by character, by age, by teaching, as the apostle Paul says: “I begot you.” The mode by truth, then, is both higher than all and more divine. But what the mode of his generation or sonship is, whether according to the modes named or other modes, I confess to God, by whose power this was done.
1 Cor 4:15 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus turns Candidus's argument back on him: making is also motion, so not every motion is change, and the Son, the Word begotten by the divine intellect, is Son by truth, not by making.
- The argument answered is Candidus, On the Divine Generation 1–3. “The intellect” renders ὁ νοῦς. A printed reference “(I. Cor. IV, 15)” inserted by the editor into the text is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips; editor's reference leaked into the text): coi hullo modo → cui nullo modo; generatiohem → generationem; Si amem per → Si autem per; quam facete → quam facere; dicit (I. Cor. IV, 15): Ego → dicit: Ego.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 30 (PL 8:1034c–1036a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/30). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Chapter 31
31PL 8:1036a–1036b
Dictum est a nobis sufficienter, ut credo, in aliis libris, a quo sit progressio et descensio; regressioque promissi sancti Spiritus declarata est: et de triplici unitate et unali trinitate. Nec suffero audiens dogma vestrum de Spiritu sancto, blasphemia plenum: « Quod iste Spiritus in sanctificationem est, et qui tantummodo sanctificet et doceat: et quod ipse factus sit, sicut omnis creatura. » Cum tamen ipse Spiritus differat propria sua actione a filio, cui tamen semper praesens est: sicut et ipse filius actione differt a patre suo, qui tamen sit pater juxta id quod est esse. Sicque istorum trium unum et idem existentium, una divinitas et non multifida majestas; sed ούs4 άντίθεια μήτι αθεια: sed tria unum, et unum tria: et ter posita, unum idemque atque solum. Sed de iis tribus alio nobis oratio.
We have spoken sufficiently, I believe, in other books about the one from whom the procession and descent come; and, through the promised Holy Spirit, the return has been set out, and the threefold unity and the single trinity. Nor can I bear to hear your doctrine of the Holy Spirit, which is full of blasphemy: “that this Spirit is for sanctification, and only sanctifies and teaches, and that he himself was made, like every creature.” Yet the Spirit himself differs by his own proper action from the Son, to whom he is nonetheless always present, just as the Son himself differs by action from his Father, who nonetheless is Father in respect of that which is being. And so, since these three exist as one and the same, there is one divinity and not a manifold majesty; there is neither a rival godhead nor godlessness; but three are one and one is three; and, posited three times, it is one and the same and alone. But of these three we shall speak elsewhere.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus rejects the view that the Holy Spirit is a creature and affirms one divinity in three, distinct by their actions.
- “Neither a rival godhead nor godlessness” translates a garbled Greek phrase (ούs4 άντίθεια μήτι αθεια, for οὐδ᾽ ἀντίθεια μήτε ἀθεΐα) by sense. The doctrine of the Spirit attributed to Candidus is not in his surviving letters.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): promissi saucii Spiritus → promissi sancti Spiritus; dogma vestrum dc Spiritu → dogma vestrum de Spiritu; factus sil, → factus sit,.
Topics: Trinity, Heresy, The Holy Spirit
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 31 (PL 8:1036a–1036b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/31). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
Chapter 32
32PL 8:1036b–1036c
Salva nunc nos, pater, concede nobis peccata nostra. Et hoc quidem de Deo dicere, quid sit, peccatum est: et quomodo sit dicere, peccatum est: et non una voce venerari, quantam fieri potest sobria, sed enuntiare velle. Sed quoniam dedisti nobis, Domine sancte pater, Spiritum dividentem nobis prout vult, des nobis et cognoscentiam. Fidem enim habemus, et dicimus: omnigenam tamen de te ignorationem habentes. Attamen te patrem Deum, et filium Jesum Christum Dominum nostrum, et Spiritum in omni verbo semper confitentes, qui cum tecum et filio eodem vivit in aeternum. Amen.
Save us now, Father; forgive us our sins. Even to say what God is, is a sin; to say how he is, is a sin; and so is wishing to express him, rather than venerating him with one voice, as soberly as can be. But since you have given us, holy Lord Father, the Spirit who distributes to us as he wills, give us knowledge too. For we have faith, and we speak, though we are ignorant of you in every way. And yet we always confess, in every word, you, God the Father, and the Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, and the Spirit, who lives with you and with the same Son for ever. Amen.
1 Cor 12:11 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus ends with a prayer asking forgiveness for speaking of God and confessing the Father, the Son and the Spirit.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): fel filium → et filium; condtentes → confitentes.
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Gen. div. Verb. 32 (PL 8:1036b–1036c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/32). (abbreviation not yet checked)
Permanent link: https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-generatione/32
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).