Against Arius 4.2–4.12
Latin text: Migne, PL 8 (Latin text: Migne PL 8, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).
Chapter 4
4.2PL 8:1114b–1114c
Hoc quo facilius judicetur, sic ista melius retractabimus. Vivere ac vita ita sunt, ut et hoc quod est vivere, vita sit: et hoc quod est vita, sit vivere; non ut duplicatum alterum in altero sit, neque alterum cum altero est: haec enim est copulatio: num et ex hoc etiamsi inseparabiliter junctum sit, unitum est, non unum? nunc vero cum ipso eodem opere vitam esse sit vivere, et eodem modo vitam esse sit. De iis enim loquimur duobus, de vivere et vita; non de eo quod ad effectum vitam habet et vivere. Quamquam et ipsum tertium, et in eo quod vitam habet, et ut alterum ex altero, sed ut unum utrumque. Ex quo apparet, quid ipsa per se existentia in suis rebus valeant, cum substantia una atque eadem manente, esse suum nulla sui innovatione custodiant: namque vitae esse suum, est moveri: ipsum autem moveri, hoc est vivere. Esse igitur et vivere est, et esse vitam: una ergo eademque substantia: namque unicuique in eo quod sit suum esse, substantia est. Etenim in supernis aeternisque, id est, in intellectibilibus atque intellectualibus, nihil accidens, nihil qualitas, nihil geminum, vel cum altero, sed omnia viventes sunt, intelligentesque substantiae, purae, simplices, uniusmodi, hoc ipso quo sunt et vivunt, et intelligunt; conversumque quo intelligunt, hoc ipso etiam sunt. Vivit igitur ac vita una substantia est.
So that this may be judged more easily, we shall treat it better as follows. Living and life are such that what living is, is life, and what life is, is living; not so that one is doubled in the other, nor that one is with the other, for that is a coupling: from this, even if inseparably joined, is it not united rather than one? But now, by the very same work, to be life is to live, and in the same way to live is to be life. For we are speaking of these two, of living and life, not of that which has life and living as an effect. And yet that too is a third, both in that which has life and as one from the other, but both as one. From this it appears what existences can do by themselves in their own spheres, since, the substance remaining one and the same, they keep their being with no innovation of themselves. For the being of life is to be moved, and to be moved is to live. To be, then, is both to live and to be life: one and the same substance, then; for for each thing, what is its being is substance. For in the higher and eternal things, that is, in the intelligible and intellectual things, there is nothing accidental, nothing that is quality, nothing twin or joined with another; all are living and understanding substances, pure, simple, uniform, which by the very fact that they are, both live and understand, and conversely, by that by which they understand, by this very fact they also are. “He lives” and “life”, then, are one substance.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus argues that living and life are not two things coupled but one substance, since in eternal realities there is no accident and being, living and understanding coincide.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): per se evistentia → per se existentia.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.2 (PL 8:1114b–1114c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.3PL 8:1114c–1115b
Sed quoniam intellectus ita se pandit, atque ita sermo processit, ut et in eo quod est vivere vita sit; et in eo quod vita sit, ideo sit vita, quia vivit: videndum, et intenta ratione quaerendum, utrum naturalis ista complexio, et bigemina existentiae modo pura simplicitas unave sit, an duae. Si nihil interest, vivere, et vita sit; et vitam esse, vi insit et vivere; jure ac merito unam istorum, non geminam copulam ad existentiam sui esse dicemus. Sin autem primum, aliud est vivere, aliud vitam esse. Et item si distantia est, ut nunc vita causa sit ad vivendum, nunc ipsum vivere causa sit, ut vita sit: duo sunt ista, sed gemina inter se, atque apud se simpliciter unita: potentia enim Λόγω suo atque divino refert ista geminari, ut ejusdem naturae ac potentiae, alterum cujus sit id, a quo hoc alterum. Atqui est nonnulla distantia, parva illa sit licet, unde non est frustra geminatio. Etenim non idem actio et agere, nec potentia et operatio, nec, ut verius dicam, Idem causa est, quod effectus: illa enim origo, hic partus est. Unde cum duo ista, vivit ac vita, sit actio atque agere, quamquam in se simulque sint, tamen et alia Vi atque natura existimanda sunt, ut alterum alterius causa sit, alterum existat effectum. Sed ut mihi intelligentia est, ac probata sententia, cum in principali naturalique primae divinitatis exordio, primum sit quod est vivere, secundum vero quod vita; ita enim ratio docebit, et ipsa veritas approbabit; fit ut vivere causa sit, effectusque vivendi vita sit, quod tamen ipsum vivere et vita sit: simul enim ista, et simul semper, quod cognoscitur, erant. Aliud vita ad secunda tertiaque, vel deinceps quae vivunt ordinata causa atque principium, ita scilicet ut idem sit simulque vita quod Vivere; sed hoc vivere, secundum de vita, cum vita est: Illud primum ac principale vivere, simul et vita causa est vitae, et fons, et origo viventium. Scio hoc obscurum videri posse, non tam rerum, quam eorumdem repetitionem sermonum, quod duo ista tali copulatione nectuntur, ut cum sit vivere Vita sit, et cum sit vita, sit vivere; unde constituto quolibet uno, frustra alterius videbitur facta geminatio.
But since the understanding unfolds itself thus, and the discourse has so proceeded that in what is living there is life, and in what is life, it is life because it lives, we must see and inquire with close reasoning whether this natural combination, this twin mode of existence, is one pure simplicity or two. If it makes no difference whether living is life, and if in being life living is present by force, we shall rightly and justly say that there is one of these for the existence of its being, not a twin coupling. But if, first, living is one thing and being life another; and likewise if there is a difference, so that now life is the cause of living, and now living itself is the cause of there being life, then these are two, but twin with each other and simply united in themselves; for it matters to the power, by its divine Word, that these be twinned, as of the same nature and power, the one belonging to that from which the other comes. And there is some difference, small though it be, so that the twinning is not in vain. For action and acting are not the same, nor power and operation; nor, to speak more truly, is cause the same as effect; for the one is origin, the other offspring. Hence, since these two, “he lives” and “life”, are action and acting, although they are in each other and together, they must still be judged of different force and nature, so that one is the cause of the other and the other exists as effect. But in my understanding and considered opinion, since in the principal and natural beginning of the first divinity living is first and life second (so reason will teach and truth itself approve), it comes about that living is the cause and life the effect of living; and yet living itself is also life, for these were together, and always together, as is known. Life is something else for the second and third things, and those after them, that live, ordered as cause and principle; so that for them life is the same and at once the same as living, but this living is second, from life, when it is life; whereas that first and principal living is at the same time life, the cause of life, and the fountain and origin of living things. I know this may seem obscure, not so much because of the things as because of the repetition of the same words, since these two are joined by such a coupling that when there is living there is life, and when there is life there is living; so that, once either one is established, the twinning of the other will seem to have been made in vain.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains that in God living and life are distinguished only as cause and effect, living being first and life its offspring, though they are always together.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; word split at line end): si– mulque vita → simulque vita; corumdem repetitionem → eorumdem repetitionem; fons, et origo virentium → fons, et origo viventium.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.3 (PL 8:1114c–1115b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.4PL 8:1115b–1116a
Audi, lector, audi quod miraberis, lector: ista tam dura, tam tortuosa, tam clausa tractatu de Deo et de divinis, simplici disputatione pandemus. Deum certe fatemur omnes, Deum omnipotentem, Deum supra omnia, Deum ante omnia, Deum a quo omnia. Hunc cum fatemur, etiam esse sine dubio confitemur. Esse huic quid credimus? quid putamus?: Spiritus, inquit, Deus est, lumen; et verum lumen Deus est. Quid hoc esse creditur, quod spiritus dicitur? nempe spiritum intelligere cogimur quamdam existentem, viventem, intelligentemque substantiam: in supernis quidem, et circa Deum maxime quasi humilem et alienum; et in posterioribus nomen non credunt convenire substantiam. Sed cur a nobis fugiatur hoc verbum? cum esse, cuique hoc et sit esse substantiam. Et in Jeremia Deus loquens ita dicit: Quod si in mea substantia staretis, videretis Verbum meum. Sic etiam ibi non multo post, et aliis in locis multis. Est igitur spiritus substantia, id est, esse ejus: colligamus igitur χ«τά Ιωάνναν dictum: Spiritus Deus est; et adorantes eum, in spiritu et veritate adorare oportet. Deus, inquit, spiritus est, hoc est Dei, quod est esse: ergo substantia Dei spiritus est, eadem substantia, hoc est quod vivens: non ut aliud sit substantia aliud vivens, sed ipsum vivens ut sit ipsa substantia. Si enim dictum est ab eodem: Spiritus est qui vivificat, utique is qui vivificat, qui vivit, et vitae potentia est: ergo vivit spiritus, vivit Deus. Porro autem quia vivit, ut supra diximus, et vita est, Spiritus ergo et vita est, ut idem Joannes ait: Spiritus vita est; ergo Deus, cum est Spiritus, et vivit et vita est. Paulus etiam ad Romanos: Nulla ergo damnatio iis qui sunt in Christo Jesu, et non juxta corpus ambulant: lex enim spiritus vitae in Christo Jesu liberavit me a lege peccati et mortis. Spiritus vitae, inquit, tria enim ista spiritus sunt, Deus, Jesus. Spiritus sanctus.
Hear, reader, hear what will make you wonder: these matters, so hard, so tortuous, so closed in treating of God and divine things, we shall open by a simple discussion. We all certainly confess God: God almighty, God above all, God before all, God from whom are all things. When we confess him, we also confess without doubt that he is. What do we believe his being to be? What do we think? “God,” it says, “is spirit”; he is light, and God is true light. What is this that is called spirit believed to be? We are compelled to understand spirit as a certain existing, living and understanding substance. Some think the word substance low and foreign when used of the things above, and above all of God, and do not believe that the name substance fits even the lower things. But why should we shun this word, since for each thing its being is its substance? And in Jeremiah God, speaking, says thus: “But if you had stood in my substance, you would see my Word”; and so too there not much later, and in many other places. Spirit, then, is substance, that is, its being. Let us gather, then, what is said according to John: “God is spirit; and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” God, it says, is spirit, that is, the being of God: so the substance of God is spirit, the same substance, that is, what is living; not that substance is one thing and the living another, but that the living itself is substance itself. For if it is said by the same evangelist, “It is the Spirit who gives life”, then certainly he who gives life lives and is the power of life. The Spirit lives, then; God lives. Further, because he lives, as we said above, he is also life; the Spirit, then, is also life, as the same John says: “The Spirit is life.” So God, since he is Spirit, both lives and is life. Paul too says to the Romans: “There is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus and do not walk according to the body; for the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.” “The Spirit of life,” he says; for these three are spirit: God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit.
John 4:24 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 1:5 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:9 (allusion, medium confidence) · Jer 23:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:63 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:1 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 8:2 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Victorinus argues from John 4:24, John 6:63, Jeremiah 23 and Romans 8 that God is spirit, that spirit is substance, and that this substance is living and life.
- The sentence about those who think the word substance unsuitable is compressed in the Latin and is translated by sense.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slips): lex enhn spiritus vitoe → lex enim spiritus vitae.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.4 (PL 8:1115b–1116a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.5PL 8:1116a–1116d
Ac de Deo probatum puto et spiritum esse: spiritum autem et vivere, et vivere facere; et vitam esse substantialiter, ut ista intellecta sint, et simplex et una substantia, ut hoc sit spiritum esse, quod vivere, et vitam esse, Sed non istud quod nostrum est vivere, quod animalium, quod elementorum, quod creatorum ex elementis, quod mundi, quod omnium in mundo, quod Angelorum, daemonum, vel etiam eorum quos in mundo de mundo deos nominant: non, inquam, Illud vivere in Deo est. Hoc Deus est, quod est vivere animae, aut uniuscujusque, aut illius universalis atque fontaneae; non ut ibi Angelorum, non ut ibi thronorum, gloriarum vel caeterorum in aeternis existentium, vel in intellectualibus, vel intellectibus: sed illud vivere, unde haec pro suo existendi genere vitam recipiunt et vivunt; illo quodammodo progrediente, et ista prout capere possunt potentiam viventis vigoris afflante, a se sibi, per se, in se solo simplex, purum sine existendi principio a quo fusum magis, vel progressum, vel natum principium est, per quod crearetur vivere exterorum. Etenim vivere vitam parit; nam vi naturali prior actor, quam actio: agens enim actionem genuit, et quasi ex ipsa vocabulum et rem cum ipse tribuerit, ipse suscepit. Hoc cum rectum; etiam ratione admodum verum est: certe Deus, cui ad omnipotentiam principalemque summitatem hoc nomen convenit Deus: Deus, inquam, primum, si in Dei operibus dicendum aliquid primum: sed intelligentia humani ingenii, ut se excrat et res capiat, rebus vel simul existentibus, vel simul fusis; et ortus, et diversos ortus,et quasi tempus attribuit. Deus, inquam, primo universalium existentias substantiasque progenuit: has Plato ideas Vocat; cunctarum inexistentibus specierum species principales; quod genus in exemplo est όντότuc, ζωότης, vbijotc: Et item τουτότης et τϊρότης, atque hoc genus caetera: genera igitur generum profunduntur, adeo omnium potentiarum potentias universaliter principales. Ergo fivrnijr, id est; existentialitas, vel essentialitas: sive ζωότη?, id est, Vitalitas, id est, prima universalis vitae potentia, hoc est, prima vita fonsque omnium vivendi. Item vono-cc, intelligendi vis, virtus, potentia, vel substantia, vel natura: haec tria accipienda ut singula, sed ita, ut qua suo plurimo sunt, hoc nominentur et esse dicantur: nam nihil horum est, quod non tria sit: esse enim, hoc esse si vivat, hoc est in Vita sit. Ipsum vero vivere, non est vivere quod vivat intelligentiam non habere: quasi mixta igitur et ut res est, triplici simplicitate simplicia. Quidquid enim hoc ipso quo est, et alterum est, non aliquando dicendum geminum, sed semper unum.
I think it has been proved of God that he is spirit, and that spirit both lives and makes live, and is life substantially, so that these are understood as simple and one substance, so that to be spirit is to live and to be life. But it is not that living which is ours, or that of animals, of the elements, of the things created from the elements, of the world and of all in the world, of angels and demons, or even of those whom people in the world call gods from the world: not that living, I say, is in God. God is not this, what the living of the soul is, either of each soul or of that universal and fountain soul; nor as the living of the angels there, nor of the thrones, glories and the rest that exist in eternal things, whether intellectual or intelligible; but he is that living from which these receive life and live according to their kind of existence; that living which in a certain way goes forth and breathes into them, as far as they can receive it, the power of living vigour; from itself to itself, through itself, simple in itself alone, pure, without any principle of existence; from which rather the principle was poured forth, or proceeded, or was born, through which the living of the others was created. For living begets life; for by natural force the agent is prior to the action: the agent begot the action, and though he himself gave it both its name and its reality, he took his own name, as it were, from it. This being right, it is also quite true by reason. Certainly God (to whom this name, God, fits because of his omnipotence and principal summit), God, I say, is first, if anything in God's works is to be called first; but the understanding of the human mind, in order to exercise itself and grasp things, attributes to things existing together or poured forth together both an origin and diverse origins, and as it were time. God, I say, first begot the existences and substances of the universals: these Plato calls Ideas, the principal species of all the species existing in them; of this kind are, for example, entity, vitality and intellectuality; and likewise identity and otherness, and the rest of this kind. So genera of genera are poured forth, indeed the universally principal powers of all powers. Entity, then, that is, existentiality or essentiality; vitality, that is, the first power of universal life, the first life and fountain of all living; likewise intellectuality, the force, virtue, power, substance or nature of understanding. These three are to be taken each by itself, but so that they are named and said to be by what they chiefly are; for none of them is not three. For to be is to be if it lives, that is, if it is in life; and living itself is not living if what lives does not have understanding. They are, then, as it were mixed, and, as the thing is, simple with a threefold simplicity. For whatever, by the very fact that it is, is also the other, must never be called twin, but always one.
John 4:24 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 6:63 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus distinguishes God's living from all created life and describes God as first begetting the universal Ideas of entity, vitality and intellectuality, each of which contains the others.
- Greek terms (garbled in the digital text): ὀντότης (entity), ζωότης (vitality), νοότης (intellectuality), ταὐτότης (identity), ἑτερότης (otherness). The reference to Plato's Ideas is Victorinus's own.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip): creatorum ex clementis → creatorum ex elementis; illius inversalis → illius universalis; priucipalemque → principalemque; Ipsum vero vivero → Ipsum vero vivere.
Extrabiblical texts: Plato (Plato (works); allusion)
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.5 (PL 8:1116a–1116d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.6PL 8:1117a–1117d
Verum de iis pluribus alibi. Deus igitur est vivere, quod summum, primum, fontaneum, principaliter principale, tria ista genuit, id est, suo vivendi opere, ut existerent procreavit. Ista igitur opere provenerunt, et haec proles, ista generatio est, ut ab agente actus, ab eo quod est essentitas vel essentia, a vivente vitalitas vel vita, ab intelligente νοησις, Intelligentium universalium universalis intelligentia nasceretur. Prius est igitur vivere, quam vita: quamquam in eo quod est vivere, vita sit: sed vivere ut parens vitae est, vita et proles, et quod gignitur, quippe a vivente generata. Deus igitur est vivere illud primum vivere a semetipso, vivere ante omnium vivere, et ante ipsius vitae vivere: agens enim et semper agens, et nullo principio agens, non ab actione agens est, ne actio vel phantasia principii sit ad agentem, sed ut actio agentis opere, vel progenita sit vel exstiterit, vel effusa sit. Hoc utique agere In eo ponimus, quod est vivere: Deus ergo vivere est, et principale vivere: vita autem ut genitum. Vivere ergo pater est, vita filius: namque quod in eo factum est, vita est, et ipse filius dicit: Ego sum via, ego veritas, ego vita. Haec vita est, quae orta est ab eo quod pater vivit, et hoc illud est: Ego enim de Deo exivi. Item ipse de se ita dicit: Qui sitit, veniat ad me, et bibat; qui credit in me, sicut dixit Scriptura, flumina de ventre ejus fluent aquae vivae. Hinc et illud est quod Samaritanae respondit: Si scires donum Dei, et quis est qui dicit tibi: Da mihi bibere, tu magis petisses eum, et dedisset tibi aquam vivam. Item postea; Omnis qui biberit ex hac aqua sitiet iterum. Samaritana aqua mundana est anima: Qui autem biberit de aqua quam ego dedero ei non sitiet in sempiternum, sed aqua quam dabo ei fiet in eo fons aquae salientis in vitam aeternam. His atque hujusmodi innumerabilibus exemplis satis clarum fit Christum Dei filium vitam esse, et aeternam vitam: quippe qui et ipse ut pater Spiritus sit; De Spiritu enim quod nascitur spiritus est: Spiritus vero spirat, et a se spirat: spirare autem vivere est. Porro quod a se spirat, a se vivit: quod a se vivit, ex aeterno et in aeternum vivit: nunquam enim se deserit, quod sibi causa est, ut hoc Ipsum sit quod existit. Cum igitur pater sit quod est vivere, ut supra docuimus, vivere autem sit vitam esse, itemque quod vita id sit quod gignitur ab eo quod est vivere, necessario id est vita, quod vivere: vivit enim et vita hoc Ipso quia vita est, atque ex se vita est: ex se enim ei est vivere: verumtamen ex illo primo, quod est principaliter vivere, quod est pater, ubi et unde existit vita, cui inest et vivere, et ex se vivere, quod esse filium Jesum Christum probamus, intelligimus et fatemur.
But of these things more elsewhere. God, then, is living, which, being highest, first, fountain-like, principally principal, begot these three, that is, by his work of living procreated them so that they might exist. These came forth, then, by a work; and this is offspring, this is generation: that from the agent the act, from what is entity or essence, from the living vitality or life, from the understanding the act of understanding, the universal understanding of universal understandings, should be born. Living, then, is prior to life, although in what is living there is life; but living is as the parent of life, and life is the offspring and what is begotten, since it is begotten by the living. God, then, is living, that first living from himself, living before the living of all things and living before life itself. For he is acting, always acting, and acting without beginning; he is not acting from an action, lest action, or the imagination of a beginning, should be prior to the agent; rather the action is begotten or comes to exist or is poured forth by the work of the agent. This acting we place in what is living. God, then, is living, and principal living; life is as what is begotten. Living, then, is the Father, life the Son: for what was made in him is life, and the Son himself says: “I am the way, I the truth, I the life.” This is the life that arose from the Father's living, and this is that saying: “For I came forth from God.” Likewise he says of himself: “Whoever thirsts, let him come to me and drink; whoever believes in me, as the Scripture said, rivers of living water will flow from his belly.” Hence too what he answered the Samaritan woman: “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, Give me a drink, you would rather have asked him, and he would have given you living water.” And afterwards: “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again.” The Samaritan water is the worldly soul. “But whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will not thirst for ever; but the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into eternal life.” By these and countless examples of this kind it becomes sufficiently clear that Christ, the Son of God, is life, and eternal life; since he too, like the Father, is Spirit. “For what is born of the Spirit is spirit”; and the Spirit breathes, and breathes from himself; and to breathe is to live. Further, what breathes from itself lives from itself; what lives from itself lives from eternity and to eternity; for it never deserts itself, being the cause to itself that it is this very thing which exists. Since, then, the Father is what living is, as we taught above, and living is to be life, and likewise life is what is begotten from what is living, life is necessarily what living is. For life too lives by the very fact that it is life, and is life from itself, since living belongs to it from itself; yet from that first which is principally living, which is the Father, where and from which life exists, in which there is also living, and living from itself: and this we prove, understand and confess to be the Son, Jesus Christ.
John 1:3 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:4 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 8:42 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:37 (quotation, high confidence) · John 7:38 (quotation, high confidence) · John 4:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 4:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 4:14 (quotation, high confidence) · John 3:6 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Victorinus argues that the Father is living itself and the Son is life begotten from that living, citing John 1:4, 14:6, 7:37–38 and the Samaritan woman to show that Christ is life and eternal life.
- “The act of understanding” renders νόησις. An editor's reference printed in the text, “(Ibid. et 14)”, is removed.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slip and uncertain characters; OCR slips; editor's reference leaked into the text; stray punctuation): vivere, qnod summum → vivere, quod summum; ipsius vitse → ipsius vitae; namque qnod in eo (??)ctum est → namque quod in eo factum est; ab eo qnod pater → ab eo quod pater; fluent aquoe vivoe → fluent aquae vivae; anima (Ibid. et 14): Qui → anima: Qui; fons aquoe salientis in vitam oeternam → fons aquae salientis in vitam aeternam; lis atque hujusmodi innumerabilibus exemptis → His atque hujusmodi innumerabilibus exemplis; Spiritus sit.; → Spiritus sit;; cui inesi → cui inest.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.6 (PL 8:1117a–1117d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.7PL 8:1117d–1118c
Ista omnia quae a me dicta sunt, quemadmodum in Evangelio x*r« iwowuv significata atque asserta per ipsa Salvatoris verba videamus: Misit me vivus Pater, et ego vivo propter Patrem. Ac ne qui istum in carne Christum dixisse istud crederet, subjunxit statim; Hic est panis qui de coelo descendit. Deinde vitam esse, et aeternam vitam sic testatur, sic docet: Nisi acceperitis corpus Filii hominis, sicut panem vitae, et biberitis sanguinem ejus, non habebitis vitam in vobis: qui autem edet carnem ejus, et bibet ejus sanguinem, habet vitam aeternam. Omne ergo quod Christus est, vita aeterna est, vel spiritus, vel anima, vel caro: horum enim omnium ipse Khyoq est. Atr/ος autem principalis vita est: ergo etiam ea quae induit vita sunt; unde ista et in nobis vitam aeternam merebuntur per Spiritum quem Christus nobis dat, facta et ista spiritalia. Ac ne qui crederet de Christo carnali Christum ista dicere, et non de toto se, qui est Spiritus, anima, caro, quid ait?: Quid si videritis Filium hominis ascendentem? Quis est filius hominis? Spiritus, anima, caro: haec enim habuit cum ascendit, et cum quibus ascendit. Quid ergo est quod adjicit? ut spiritus intelligatur: Ubi primum fuit: hoc est, spiritus: atque vita, quod Pater, quod Deus, unde haec όμοοΰοχκ, id est, consubstantialia sunt, nullo tempore extra se existentia, principaliter principalia, una eademque substantia, vi pari, eadem potentia, majestate, virtute; nullum altero prius, nisi quod causa est alterum alterius, et idcirco alterum; Sed idem alterum verum quia idem unus Deus; quia vero alterum, idcirco primum et secundum; et quia causa alterum alterius, Idcirco pater, quod causa est; id vero quod ab altero, filius: in substantia vero nulla distantia, nulla temporis discretio, nulla significatio; unus motus, una voluntas, et aliquando phantasia alterius voluntatis, sed semper eadem.
Let us see how all that I have said is signified and asserted in the Gospel according to John through the Saviour's own words: “The living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father.” And lest anyone think that Christ said this of himself in the flesh, he added at once: “This is the bread that came down from heaven.” Then he testifies and teaches that he is life, and eternal life: “Unless you receive the body of the Son of Man, as the bread of life, and drink his blood, you will not have life in you; but he who eats his flesh and drinks his blood has eternal life.” All, then, that Christ is, is eternal life, whether spirit or soul or flesh; for he is the Word of all these. And the Word is principal life; so the things he put on are also life. Hence these in us too will merit eternal life through the Spirit whom Christ gives us, these too being made spiritual. And lest anyone think that Christ said these things of the Christ in the flesh, and not of his whole self, which is spirit, soul and flesh, what does he say? “What if you see the Son of Man ascending?” Who is the Son of Man? Spirit, soul, flesh: for he had these when he ascended, and with them he ascended. What, then, does he add, so that spirit may be understood? “Where he was before”: that is, spirit, and life, which the Father is, which God is. Hence these are homoousia, that is, consubstantial, at no time existing outside each other, principally principal, one and the same substance, of equal force, of the same power, majesty and virtue; neither prior to the other, except that one is the cause of the other, and therefore other. But the other is truly the same, because the same is one God; and because it is other, therefore there are first and second; and because one is the cause of the other, therefore he is Father, because he is cause; and that which is from the other is Son. But in substance there is no distance, no distinction of time, no sign of difference; one motion, one will, and at times the appearance of another will, yet always the same.
John 6:57 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:58 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:53 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:54 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:62 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus reads John 6:53–62 to show that the whole Christ, spirit, soul and flesh, is eternal life, and that Father and Son are consubstantial, distinguished only as cause and caused.
- “Never even the appearance of another will” renders by sense “et aliquando phantasia alterius voluntatis”. “Homoousia” renders a garbled ὁμοούσια.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; editor's reference leaked into the text; uncertain characters; OCR slip; word split; OCR slip): Hic est pa(??)is qui de coelo discendit → Hic est panis qui de coelo descendit; vitam esso → vitam esse; acceperitis corpnt → acceperitis corpus; habebitis vilam → habebitis vitam; vi– deritis Filium hominis abcendentem → videritis Filium hominis ascendentem; intelligatur (Ibid.): Ubi → intelligatur: Ubi; ab allero, filius → ab altero, filius.
Topics: Christology, Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.7 (PL 8:1117d–1118c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.8PL 8:1118c–1119c
Haec ita esse sacra primum lectione doceamus, deinde, ut ordo poscit, ut rerum necessitas flagitat, et perspiciamus in iis quibus est una eademque substantia, cur alter mittentis, alter missi potestatem gerant: imperantis alter, alter ministri: alter motu agendi a passionibus libero, alter per infinitos actus in creandis saeculis infinitus, et iis quae sunt in saeculis; subjecit usque ad mortem innumeras passiones. Vivit quod primum est, vivit ex sese, vivit aeternum, et hoc Deus est. Quod Ipsum vivit, ut docui, existentiae, vel substantiae vim habet, et naturam vitae et intelligentiae: immo ipse in eo quod est ei esse, hoc est illud quod dicimus vivere, et hoc quod Intelligere, et hoc Deus est: ergo quod est Deo esse, existentiae causa et pater est. Et quoniam in ipso suo esse Vita et est; et in eo etiam nosse qui sit, et vitae universalis, et Intelligentiae fons est. De tribus enim istis quae simplici existentia in Deo sunt, vel quae Deus sunt, magis esse Deus est: quod ex se habet vivere, et vitam esse, vel intelligere, et intelligentiam esse, ut supra docuimus, et in pluribus. Ut jam reliqua duo, vitam dico et intelligentiam accipiamus, ut genita ab eo quod est esse, suum esse habentia ab eo quod est primum esse motum, pro priore existendi vim ac nomen vitae intelligentiamve sortita. Omnia enim in tribus terna sunt quodammodo et ordine nominata: non quod non in singulis tribus trina sunt, sed quod motu id operantur quod esse dicuntur: esse enim primus motus est, qui cessans dicitur motus, idem intus motus: cum enim se ut existat operatur, recte et intus motus, et cessans motus est nominatus. Hinc nos motum esse dicimus, quod est vivit ac vivere: jam vero cum ex eo quod est vivit ac vivere confecta quodam modo et genita in habitus speciem ipsius quod est vivit ac vivere forma formata sit, haec vita, haec filius nominatur. Ut enim forma quaelibet, vel ibi posita ubi est, vel alibi ducit nos ad cognoscendum eum cujus est; sic vita facit nos nosse quid sit vivere: actus enim est vivere, et in actu momentis omnibus cursus, et ideo dictum: Deum nemo vidit unquam. Quis enim videat vivere, quod Deus est, sine vita quae lineamentis agendis in quadam specie coit et existit, ut sit forma viventis? Ergo ejus quod est vivere, forma est vita, per quam, vel in qua quod est, vivit ac vivere videtur, accipitur et agnoscitur, quod a patre significat dictum Salvatoris: Qui me videt videt et Patrem: Filius enim Dei forma Dei est, id est, vita, quae est forma viventis. Dictum enim a Paulo ad Philippenses: Qui cum in forma Dei constitutus esset, non rapinam arbitratus est ut esset aequalis Deo. Item ad Colossenses: Qui est imago invisibilis Dei. Ergo Jesus Christus et imago, et forma Dei. Diximus autem quod in forma videtur, id cujus forma: et eodem pacto et in imagine videtur is, cujus imago est, maxime si is cujus imago, est invisibilis, sicut heic dictum: Imago Dei invisibilis. Eodem modo dictum in Evangelio κατά ΐωάννην: Deum nemo unquam vidit, nisi Unigenitus Filius, qui de sinu ejus exivit. Et item sic Moysi dictum: Faciem meam non videbis; quis enim faciem meam vidit et vixit? Permisit tamen posterganea sua videri, id est, deorsum, caeteraque praeter faciem.
Let us first teach from sacred reading that these things are so; then, as order demands and the necessity of the matter requires, let us consider why, among those who have one and the same substance, one bears the power of sender and the other of the one sent, one of commander and the other of minister; one with a motion of acting free from passions, the other boundless through boundless acts in creating the ages and the things in the ages, and subjected even to death, to countless passions. What is first lives, lives from itself, lives eternally; and this is God. What lives in itself, as I have taught, has the force of existence or substance, and the nature of life and understanding; or rather, in what is his being, he is himself that which we call living and understanding; and this is God. What is God's being, then, is the cause and Father of existence. And since in his very being he is also life, and in it also knows who he is, he is the fountain of universal life and understanding. For of these three, which are in God by simple existence, or which God is, God is rather being, which has from itself living and being life, or understanding and being understanding, as we taught above and in many places. So that we may now take the other two, I mean life and understanding, as begotten from what is being, having their being from that which is the first being, and having received, by the motion proper to their existing, the force and the name of life or of understanding. For all things in the three are threefold, and are named in a certain way and order: not that they are not threefold in each of the three, but because by motion they operate what they are said to be. For being is the first motion, which is called resting motion, the same as inner motion; for when it operates itself so as to exist, it is rightly named both inner motion and resting motion. Hence we call motion that which is “he lives” and living. But when, from what is “he lives” and living, completed and begotten in a certain way, the form of “he lives” and living has been formed into the shape of a state, this is called life, this is called the Son. For as any form, whether placed where it is or elsewhere, leads us to know him whose form it is, so life makes us know what living is. For living is act, and in act a course at every moment; and therefore it is said: “No one has ever seen God.” For who could see living, which God is, without the life that comes together and exists in a certain shape, with the lineaments of acting, so as to be the form of the living one? Life, then, is the form of that which is living, through which, or in which, what “lives” and living is, is seen, received and recognized. This is what the Saviour's saying signifies, as from the Father: “He who sees me sees the Father also.” For the Son of God is the form of God, that is, life, which is the form of the living one. For Paul says to the Philippians: “Who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God.” Likewise to the Colossians: “Who is the image of the invisible God.” So Jesus Christ is both image and form of God. And we have said that in the form is seen that whose form it is; and in the same way he whose image it is, is seen in the image, especially if he whose image it is is invisible, as is said here: “the image of the invisible God”. In the same way it is said in the Gospel according to John: “No one has ever seen God, except the only-begotten Son, who came forth from his bosom.” And likewise it was said to Moses: “You shall not see my face; for who has seen my face and lived?” Yet he allowed his back parts to be seen, that is, what is below, the rest apart from the face.
Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.
John 1:18 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:9 (quotation, high confidence) · Phil 2:6 (quotation, high confidence) · Col 1:15 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:20 (quotation, high confidence) · Exod 33:23 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus explains the Son as life, the form in which the Father's hidden living is seen, citing John 1:18, 14:9, Philippians 2:6, Colossians 1:15 and Exodus 33.
- Migne prints “primum esse motum, pro priore existendi vim”, which hardly construes; it is translated as “primum esse, motu proprio existendi vim” (“by the motion proper to their existing”), the reading the sense requires.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR slips): una eademqne substantia → una eademque substantia; arbitratus estt ut esset oequalis → arbitratus est ut esset aequalis.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.8 (PL 8:1118c–1119c; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.9PL 8:1119c–1120a
Quot heic mysteria? quot genera quaestionum? quot signa ad declarandum et Deum, et Jesum Christum, et substantiam esse, et unum ambo esse substantiam, et simul utrumque unam esse substantiam, et a patre filio esse substantiam? Quae cuncta, atque hujusmodi alia, nullo modo explicari, intelligi atque approbari possunt, nisi superior tractatus manifestis perceptionibus illucescat. Sit igitur nobis fixa sententia, quod Deus spiritus sit, et spiritus de quo et filius spiritus, et spiritus Spiritus sanctus: De spiritu enim quod nascitur spiritus est: Spiritus autem vivificat. Quod vivificat, utique ipsum vivit: quod vivit, quia spiritus est, a se vivit: et quod a se vivit, hoc ipsum est quod vivit: et quia quod a se vivit, cum ipsum sit quod est vivit, nec aliud habet quod vivere dicatur: non enim vivificatum est, sed vivit ipsum, vivit vel vivere existens: et quia vivit, ac vivere agere est, in eo quod a se vivit, nunquam coepit; non enim expectavit alterum, ut nunquam se deseruit, aut deseret: ex aeterno igitur atque in aeternum vivit principalis et universalis substantia vivendi, non ut substantia sit, et sic vivens; sed ipsum quod est vivens, hoc ipsum substantia est: neque enim cum ipsum vivens, ac vivit, et vivere esse, et quodammodo esse intelligatur, non suum sibi esse quod sit, substantia est, hoc et lectione omni sacra, et rerum ipsarum vocibus spiritus nominatur.
How many mysteries are here! How many kinds of questions! How many signs declaring that both God and Jesus Christ are substance, that both are one substance, that both together are one substance, and that the Son has his substance from the Father! None of these, or of others like them, can in any way be explained, understood and approved unless the preceding discussion shines out with clear perceptions. Let this, then, be our fixed opinion: that God is spirit, and the spirit from which the Son too is spirit, and that the Holy Spirit is spirit. “For what is born of spirit is spirit”; and “The Spirit gives life.” What gives life certainly itself lives; what lives, because it is spirit, lives from itself; and what lives from itself is this very thing that lives. And because what lives from itself is itself what “lives” is, and has nothing else that could be called its living (for it was not given life, but itself lives, existing as “lives” or living), and because it lives, and living is acting, then, in that it lives from itself, it never began; for it did not wait for another, as it never deserted itself nor will desert itself. From eternity, then, and to eternity lives the principal and universal substance of living: not that it is substance and so living, but that the very thing that is living is substance itself. For when the living itself, the “lives” and the to-live, and in a way the being, is understood, its own being, which it is, is substance; and this, both in all sacred reading and by the very voices of things, is named spirit.
John 4:24 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:6 (quotation, high confidence) · John 6:63 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus restates that God, the Son and the Holy Spirit are spirit, and that spirit, living from itself without beginning, is the eternal substance of life.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; joined words): ambo essa substantiam → ambo esse substantiam; spiritus est, ase vivit → spiritus est, a se vivit.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.9 (PL 8:1119c–1120a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-9). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.10PL 8:1120a–1121a
Spirat autem spiritus, et a se spirat, et Deus spiritus est: spirat vero, hoc est, quod vivit: vivit ergo a se et semper spiritus, qui Deus est: vivit, inquam, atque in actu vivendi, et ipso opere vita cum vivit, opere vitam cum vivit, operatur. Nata ergo est vivente Deo vita aeterna, generata est, et quia vivit, ipsum substantia est: et quod est ab eo quod vivit, et vita ipsa substantia est, per eadem aequalis ac simul, quia ipsum vivit vita est, atque ipsa vita vivendo existit ut vita sit. Spiritus ergo est vivere, et vita spiritus est: complectitur se utrumque, et in utrumque est, et alterum non ut geminum et adjectum, sed simplicitate ex se atque in se existentis, quasi alterius substantis duplicatum, nunquam a se discretum, quia in singulis geminum. Etenim vivere cum vita est, et vita rursus cum eo est quod est vivere: vivere autem, ut docuimus, Deus est, vita Christus: et quia vivere ut generator est vitae: actu enim, quod est vivere, ut quaedam prolis vita generatur, fit vivere pater, filius vita, ista ipsa quidem, qui alterum altero, idcirco duo. Unde enim duo, nisi alterum ab altero? et semper quod ab altero est filius est, illud autem unde alterum, pater. Sed nunc non ita alterum ut discretum atque diversum, sed tantum alterum ab altero, ut conficiens atque confectum, et generans atque generatum, conjunctione substantiae utrumque unum, cum et vivere vita sit et vita ipsa vivere: hinc pater et filius, unus Deus. Et quia conversio naturalis existentiae non nisi una est: ut enim in eo quod est vivere inest vita, et item in eo quod est vita, inest vivere; una sola et conversio est. Unde cum in eo quod vita est, insit et vivere; idcirco unigenitus filius consubstantialis patri, unus et ipse filius, pater unus. Unde una eademque substantia, et simul ac semper: Hoc est enim όροούσιον, ομοϋ ουσίαν βχων, simul substantiam habens, paremque existendi vim atque virtutem, eamdemque substantiae naturam, nullo tempore praecunte; quod nos consubstantiale dicimus, causativo priore quod est vivere, ad id quod vita est, ut illud generans ac pater, hoc genitum ac filius, et sit, et esse dicatur. Ergo quia insunt sibi, et licet pater cum sit, filius non sit: rursusque cum filius, qui est ejus cujus est filius, pater non sit; tamen vi rerum et substantis parilitate, cum vivere vita sit et una sit vivere, merito divina Salvatoris voce pronuntiatum est: Et ego in Patre, et Pater in me. Hinc et illud est: Ego et Pater unum sumus: etenim cum rerum vi et natura ipsa duce nihil sint omnia, si non vivant, et motu vitali vacua, nec molem hylicum aut existentiae vel imaginem, vel speciem habere credantur: fluendi enim ac refluendi natura incondite subsistendi, non recipit vis lubrica inconstans, nec formam recipit, ut aliquid esse dicatur.
The spirit breathes, and breathes from itself, and God is spirit; and to breathe is to live. The spirit, then, which is God, lives from itself and always: lives, I say, and in the act of living, and by the very work, when he lives he is life; when he lives he works life. Eternal life, then, was born of the living God, was begotten; and because “he lives” is itself substance, what is from that which lives, life itself, is also substance, equal by the same reasoning and together with it, because “he lives” is itself life, and life itself exists by living so as to be life. Spirit, then, is living, and life is spirit: each embraces the other and is in both, and the one is not a twin added to the other, but, by the simplicity of what exists from itself and in itself, it is as it were a doubling of the other's substance, never separated from itself, because it is twin in each. For living is with life, and life again with what is living. And living, as we taught, is God, life is Christ; and because living is as the begetter of life (for by the act which is living, life is begotten as a kind of offspring), living becomes Father and life Son; these very two, because one is from the other, are therefore two. For how are there two, unless one is from the other? And always what is from another is son, and that from which the other is, is father. But here the other is not separated and diverse, but only other from other, as maker and made, begetter and begotten; by conjunction of substance both are one, since living is life and life itself is living: hence Father and Son are one God. And because the natural turning of existence is only one (for as in living there is life, so in life there is living, and there is one sole turning), therefore, since in what is life there is also living, the only-begotten Son is consubstantial with the Father; the Son himself is one, the Father one. Hence there is one and the same substance, together and always. For this is homoousion, having substance together, and an equal force and power of existing, and the same nature of substance, with no time going before: what we call consubstantial, what is living being causally prior to what is life, so that the one is begetter and Father, the other begotten and Son, both in being and in name. Since, then, they are in each other, and although when there is the Father he is not the Son, and again the Son, who is the Son of him whose Son he is, is not the Father, yet by the force of things and the equality of substance, since living is life and life living, it was rightly pronounced by the divine voice of the Saviour: “And I am in the Father, and the Father in me”; hence also: “I and the Father are one.” For by the force of things and with nature itself as guide, all things are nothing if they do not live; empty of living motion, they are not believed to have material bulk or any image or form of existence. For the slippery, inconstant force of a nature that flows and ebbs, subsisting without order, does not receive form so as to be said to be something.
John 4:24 (allusion, high confidence) · John 14:10 (quotation, high confidence) · John 10:30 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus argues that the Father is living and the Son life, begotten from living, so that they are two only as begetter and begotten, one substance and one God, homoousion.
- “Having substance together” renders the Greek ὁμοῦ οὐσίαν ἔχων.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (OCR slip; stray punctuation; word split at line end): ab eo quod vivit. et vita ipsa → ab eo quod vivit, et vita ipsa; generans atque gneratum → generans atque generatum; parem– que → paremque.
Topics: Trinity, Christology
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.10 (PL 8:1120a–1121a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.11PL 8:1121a–1121d
Unde carens eo quod est aliquid esse, etiam esse suum tenet, ut recte nullo modo esse dicitur. At nunc comprehensa et tota, atque in partibus circumsistens, et formata, atque hoc corporata, et ad aliquid esse specie aliqua capta et esse creditur: quia motu vitali, et ab infinito certis lineamentis septa, in sensus certissimos promovetur. Ergo hylica quae sunt, ut esse videantur, facit vis potentiaque vitalis, quae defluens a λόγω illo qui vita est, quem dicimus filium, per Archangelos, Angelos, Thronos, Glorias, caeteraque quae supra mundum sunt, primo incorporea, atque αυλα, naturali sua substantia munda atque puriora cum currit ac labitur, lucem suam majore sui communione patitur, mox in animam fontemque animae gradatim veniens. Quia anima imago τού λόγον est, quasi quadam cognitione majorem defluendi accipit cursum. Et quia in animanda anima properat, fit et in animanda ejus petulantior appetitus. Hinc in hylen mersa, et mundanis elementis, et postremo carnalibus vinculis implicata, corruptioni atque ipsi morti sese miscens, vivendi idolum materiae faecibus praestat. Vivunt ergo cuncta terrena, humida, aerea, ignea, aetherea, coelestia, non λόγω illo priore, nec vitae integro lumine, sed propter copulationem hylicam saucia luce vitali, vivunt supra caelestia, et magis vivunt, quae ab hyle et a corporeis nexibus recesserunt, ut puriores animae, et Throni, et Gloriae; item Angeli atque ipsi Spiritus, alii ut in alio, id est, in sua substantia vitam habentes: alii ipsa vita sunt: Jesus autem Christus, et sanctus Spiritus: nam et de hoc mox docebimus: simul cum Deo, sed a Deo tamen vita sunt, sed universali vita vivunt, et a se vivunt, et non in altero habentes quod vivunt, sed ut hoc ipsum illis esse sit vivere et vitam esse, et scientiam esse patre tradente, hoc est, principaliter existente eo quod est vivere. Ergo haec omnia enumerata vivant, et nihil sit vel in aeternis, vel in mundanis aut hylicis, quod non pro natura sua vivat: utique confitendum est esse vim quandam vel potentiam qua cuncta vivefiant, et quasi vivendi fonte in vitales spiritus erigantur, ut ex hoc et vivant, et quia vivunt, esse sortita sint.
Hence, lacking being something, matter so holds its being that it is rightly said not to be at all. But now, grasped and whole, standing round in its parts, formed and so embodied, and caught in some form so as to be something, it is also believed to be: because by living motion it is enclosed from the boundless by fixed lineaments and is brought forward to the surest senses. So the living force and power makes material things seem to be. This power flows down from that Word who is life, whom we call the Son, through Archangels, Angels, Thrones, Glories, and the rest that are above the world; first into incorporeal and immaterial things, clean and purer by their natural substance; as it runs and glides it bears its light with a greater sharing of itself; then it comes by degrees into soul and the fountain of soul. Because the soul is the image of the Word, by a certain kinship it receives a greater course of flowing down. And because in giving life it hastens to give life, its appetite in giving life becomes more wanton. Hence, plunged into matter and into the elements of the world, and at last entangled in the bonds of flesh, mixing itself with corruption and with death itself, it provides a mere image of living to the dregs of matter. All earthly, moist, airy, fiery, ethereal and heavenly things live, then, not by that prior Word, nor by the whole light of life, but by a wounded living light, because of their coupling with matter. Above the heavenly things live, and live more, those that have withdrawn from matter and bodily bonds, such as purer souls, Thrones and Glories; likewise the Angels and the Spirits themselves, some as in another, that is, having life in their substance; others are life itself: Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit (for of him too we shall soon teach). They are together with God, but from God; they are life, but they live a universal life, and live from themselves, not having in another that by which they live, but so that this very thing is their being: to live and to be life, and to be knowledge, the Father handing it to them, that is, that which is living existing in the first place. Since, then, all these that have been listed live, and there is nothing, whether in eternal things or in the things of the world or of matter, that does not live according to its nature, it must certainly be confessed that there is a certain force or power by which all things are given life, and are raised as from a fountain of living into living spirits, so that from this they live, and because they live have received being.
Col 1:16 (allusion, medium confidence) · John 1:4 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus describes the life-giving power flowing from the Word through the heavenly orders into soul and matter, so that all things live in their degree, while Christ and the Spirit are life itself from God.
- “Immaterial things” renders ἄϋλα. Victorinus's picture of the soul plunging into matter is Neoplatonic and is translated as written.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (Migne prints in corpora (into bodies), which contradicts the immaterial things named with it; incorporea is the reading the sense requires.; OCR slip): vivunt supra calestia → vivunt supra caelestia; primo in corpora → primo incorporea.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.11 (PL 8:1121a–1121d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).
4.12PL 8:1121d–1122b
Quis est iste, unde in aeterna atque in mortalia vitalis spiritus spirat, quo vigent cuncta, quo subsistunt, quo actus proprios sumunt, quo et generata sunt, et generatura proveniunt? Deus, sine dubio Deus, et quod menti nostra venerationi est vivendi pater, numenque vivendi. Hunc vel potentiam vitae, ut in aliis diximus, vel vitam summam principemque, et generaliter generalem, atque omnium viventium originem, causam, caput, fontemque dicemus:Principium existentium, substantiarum patrem, qui ab eo quod ipse est, esse caeteris praestat, secundum vim ac naturam percipientium vivendi potentiam, substantiamque moderatus. Quid ipse, aut in quo? Quippe vivus verusque: Unus, ut nos de se loqui sinit: vivit, et ex aeterno et in aeternum vivit, ex se habens illud ipsum, quod ei substantia est: vivit; non enim ei accedere actus aut debuit aut potuit, ne aliquando a se minus: sed semper perfectus, plenus ac totus, in eo quod est ei esse, inest etiam sic esse: caeteraque post Deum sunt, et potentiae sunt, et actiones potentiae, quae vi sua jam esse creduntur, ut omnia et esse, et habere videantur, quae maturis processionis actibus existentia in suo opere heic habere provenit: actiones autem dicuntur, cum existendis processibus gignunt, ac foras promunt quod esse possunt. Ut semen jam potentia est, et culmus, et folia; vel mas aut femina venereae cupiditatis effusio; sed haec in mundo atque sub luna: supra vero in aethere atque coelo actiones sunt, atque actionibus vivunt, sed genita etiam quod futurum fuerant facta: ex ortu enim suo in operationes proprias suasque dimissa, suos actus naturae continentis contagione discurrunt.
Who is this, from whom the living spirit breathes into eternal and mortal things, by whom all things thrive, by whom they subsist, by whom they take up their own acts, by whom they have been begotten and come forth to beget? God, without doubt God, whom our mind venerates as the Father of living and the divinity of living. Him we shall call either the power of life, as we said elsewhere, or the supreme and princely life, general in the most general way, and the origin, cause, head and fountain of all living things; the principle of existents, the Father of substances, who from what he himself is provides being to the rest, governing the power of living and substance according to the force and nature of those who receive it. What is he himself, or in what is he? He is living and true; one, as he allows us to speak of him; he lives, and lives from eternity and to eternity, having from himself that very thing which is his substance. He lives; for act neither ought nor could accrue to him, lest at some time he be less than himself; but he is always perfect, full and whole, and in what is his being there is also his being thus. The rest come after God: they are powers, and actions of a power, which are believed to be by their own force, so that they all seem both to be and to have what existence, through the mature acts of procession, comes to have here in its work. They are called actions when, by the processes of existence, they beget and bring forth outwardly what they can be. So a seed is already in power both the stalk and the leaves; or the outpouring of desire in male or female. But these are in the world and under the moon; above, in the ether and the heavens, there are actions, and they live by actions, but having been begotten they were made what they were to be; for, sent forth from their origin into their own proper operations, they run through their acts by contact with the nature that holds them together.
Notes and citation
Summary: Victorinus identifies God as the fountain of all life and being, always perfect and needing no added act, while all else consists of powers and actions that proceed from him.
Topics: Trinity
Cite (SBL): Marius Victorinus, Adv. Ar. 4.12 (PL 8:1121d–1122b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/p/victorinus-adversus-arium/4-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Migne PL 8; no public-domain English exists; re-read against the Latin and checked afterwards, privately, against a modern English translation (not quoted).