Against Celsus 5.18–5.31
Greek text: Koetschau, GCS 2–3 (Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885).
Chapter 5
5.18Koetschau 2:19
Ἐπεὶ δʼ ἐπὶ πλέον κεκωμῴδηκε τὴν κεκηρυγμένην μὲν τῆς σαρκὸς ἀνάστασιν ἐν ταῖς ἐκκλησίαις ὑπὸ δὲ τῶν συνετωτέρων τρανότερον νενοημένην. καὶ οὐ χρὴ αὖθις ἐκτίθεσθαι τὴν λέξιν αὐτοῦ ἅπαξ προειρημένην· φέρε καὶ περὶ τοῦ προβλήματος τούτου. ὡς ἐν τῇ πρὸς ἀλλότριον τῆς πίστεως ἀπολογίᾳ γραφομένῃ διὰ τοὺς ἔτι νηπίους καὶ κλυδωνιζομένους καὶ περιφερομένους „παντὶ ἀνέμῳ διδασκαλίας ἐν τῇ κυβείᾳ τῶν ἀνθρώπων, (ἐν πανουργίᾳ) πρὸς τὴν μεθοδίαν τῆς πλάνης.“ ὀλίγα ἐστοχασμένως τῶν ἐντευξομένων κατὰ τὸ δυνατὸν ἡμῖν ἐκθώμεθα καὶ παραστήσωμεν. οὔτε μὲν οὖν ἡμεῖς οὔτε τὰ θεῖα γράμματα αὐταῖς φησι σαρξὶ, μηδεμίαν μεταβολὴν ἀνειληφυίαις τὴν ἐπὶ τὸ βέλτιον, ζήσεσθαι τοὺς πάλαι ἀποθανόντας, ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς ἀναδύντας· ὁ δὲ Κέλσος ἡμᾶς συκοφαντεῖ ταῦτα λέγων. ἀκούομεν γὰρ καὶ πολλῶν γραφῶν περὶ ἀναστάσεως ἀξίως θεοῦ λεγουσῶν, ἀρκεῖ δʼ ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος τὴν Παύλου παραθέσθαι ἀπὸ τῆς πρὸς Κορινθίους προτέρας λέξιν, φάσκοντος· „ἀλλʼ ἐρεῖ τις· πῶς ἐγείρονται οἱ νεκροί; ποίῳ δὲ σώματι ἔρχονται; ἄφρον. σὺ ὃ σπείρεις οὐ ζωοποιεῖται, ἐὰν μὴ ἀποθάνῃ· καὶ ὃ σπείρεις, οὐ τὸ σῶμα τὸ γενησόμενον σπείρεις ἀλλὰ γυμνὸν κόκκον, εἰ τύχοι, σίτου ἤ τινος τῶν λοιπῶν· ὁ δὲ θεὸς δίδωσιν αὐτῷ σῶμα, καθὼς ἠθέλησε, καὶ ἑκάστῳ τῶν σπερμάτων ἴδιον σῶμα.“ ὅρα γὰρ τίνα τρόπον ἐν τούτοις „οὐ τὸ γενησόμενον σῶμά“ φησι σπείρεσθαι, ἀλλʼ ἀπὸ τοῦ σπειρομένου καὶ γυμνοῦ βαλλομένου ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν λέγει διδόντος τοῦ θεοῦ „ἑκάστῳ τῶν σπερμάτων ἴδιον σῶμα“ οἱονεὶ ἀνάστασιν γίνεσθαι, ἀπὸ τοῦ καταβεβλημένου σπέρματος ἐγειρομένου στάχυος ἐν τοῖς τοιοῖσδε, οἱονεὶ ἐν νάπυϊ ἢ ἐπὶ μείζονος δένδρου ἐν ἐλαίας πυρῆνι ἤ τινι τῶν ἀκροδρύων.
Epei dʼ epi pleon kekōmǭdēke tēn kekērygmenēn men tēs sarkos anastasin en tais ekklēsiais hypo de tōn synetōterōn tranoteron nenoēmenēn. kai ou chrē authis ektithesthai tēn lexin autou hapax proeirēmenēn; phere kai peri tou problēmatos toutou. hōs en tę̄ pros allotrion tēs pisteōs apologią graphomenę̄ dia tous eti nēpious kai klydōnizomenous kai peripheromenous „panti anemǭ didaskalias en tę̄ kybeią tōn anthrōpōn, (en panourgią) pros tēn methodian tēs planēs.“ oliga estochasmenōs tōn enteuxomenōn kata to dynaton hēmin ekthōmetha kai parastēsōmen. oute men oun hēmeis oute ta theia grammata autais phēsi sarxi, mēdemian metabolēn aneilēphuiais tēn epi to beltion, zēsesthai tous palai apothanontas, apo tēs gēs anadyntas; ho de Kelsos hēmas sykophantei tauta legōn. akouomen gar kai pollōn graphōn peri anastaseōs axiōs theou legousōn, arkei dʼ epi tou parontos tēn Paulou parathesthai apo tēs pros Korinthious proteras lexin, phaskontos; „allʼ erei tis; pōs egeirontai hoi nekroi? poiǭ de sōmati erchontai? aphron. sy ho speireis ou zōopoieitai, ean mē apothanę̄; kai ho speireis, ou to sōma to genēsomenon speireis alla gymnon kokkon, ei tychoi, sitou ē tinos tōn loipōn; ho de theos didōsin autǭ sōma, kathōs ēthelēse, kai hekastǭ tōn spermatōn idion sōma.“ hora gar tina tropon en toutois „ou to genēsomenon sōma“ phēsi speiresthai, allʼ apo tou speiromenou kai gymnou ballomenou epi tēn gēn legei didontos tou theou „hekastǭ tōn spermatōn idion sōma“ hoionei anastasin ginesthai, apo tou katabeblēmenou spermatos egeiromenou stachyos en tois toioisde, hoionei en napyï ē epi meizonos dendrou en elaias pyrēni ē tini tōn akrodryōn.
Since he has further mocked the resurrection of the flesh, which is preached in the churches but understood more clearly by the more intelligent, and there is no need to set out again his passage, already quoted once, come, let us set out and present a few things on this problem too, as best we can, aiming at those who will read, since this is a defence written against a man alien to the faith, for the sake of those who are still infants and tossed to and fro and carried about "by every wind of doctrine, by human trickery, by craftiness in deceitful scheming." Neither we nor the divine writings say that those who died long ago will rise from the earth and live in the very same flesh, having undergone no change for the better; Celsus slanders us in saying this. For we hear many scriptures speaking about the resurrection in a way worthy of God, but it is enough for the present to cite Paul's passage from the First Letter to the Corinthians, where he says: "But someone will say: How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come? Fool! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare seed, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each of the seeds its own body." See how he says in these words that it is "not the body that is to be" that is sown, but that from what is sown and thrown bare onto the earth, with God giving "to each of the seeds its own body," a kind of resurrection takes place, an ear rising from the seed cast down, in such things as these, or, as it were, in mustard, or, with a larger tree, in an olive stone or one of the fruit trees.
Eph 4:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:35–38 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Christians do not teach that the dead rise in the same unchanged flesh; Paul compares the resurrection to a seed that dies and is given a new body by God.
- The quotations are Eph 4:14 and 1 Cor 15:35–38. The parenthetical (ἐν πανουργίᾳ) is the editor's supplement.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misspelling in the digital text): σπερίρεις → σπείρεις.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.18 (Koetschau 2:19; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-18).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.19Koetschau 2:19–21
„Ὁ θεὸς“ οὖν „δίδωσιν“ „ἑκάστῳ“ „σῶμα, καθὼς ἐθέλησεν, “ ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τῶν σπειρομένων οὕτω καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν οἱονεὶ σπειρομένων ἐν τῷ ἀποθνῄσκειν καὶ καιρῷ ἐπιτηδείῳ ἀναλαμβανόντων ἐκ τῶν σπειρομένων τὸ περιτιθέμενον ἑκάστῳ κατὰ τὴν ἀξίαν „σῶμα“ ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ. ἀκούομεν δὲ καὶ τοῦ διὰ πλειόνων διδάσκοντος λόγου τὴν διαφορὰν τοῦ οἱονεὶ σπειρομένου πρὸς τὸ ὡσπερεὶ ἐγειρόμενον ἀπʼ αὐτοῦ καὶ λέγοντος· „σπείρεται ἐν φθορᾷ, ἐγείρεται ἐν ἀφθαρσίᾳ· σπείρεται ἐν ἀτιμίᾳ, ἐγείρεται ἐν δόξῃ· σπείρεται ἐν ἀσθενείᾳ, ἐγείρεται ἐν δυνάμει· σπείρεται σῶμα ψυχικὸν, ἐγείρεται σῶμα πνευματικόν.“ ὁ δὲ δυνάμενος ἔτι καταλαμβανέτω, τί νενόηται τῷ λέγοντι· „οἷος ὁ χοϊκὸς, τοιοῦτοι καὶ οἱ χοϊκοί· καὶ οἷος ὁ ἐπουράνιος, τοιοῦτοι καὶ οἱ ἐπουράνιοι. καὶ καθὼς ἐφορέσαμεν τὴν εἰκόνα τοῦ χοϊκοῦ, οὕτω φορέσωμεν καὶ τὴν εἰκόνα τοῦ ἐπουρανίου.“ καίτοι δὲ βουλόμενος κρύπτειν ὁ ἀπόστολος τὰ κατὰ τὸν τόπον ἀπόῤῥητα καὶ μὴ ἁρμόζοντα τοῖς ἁπλουστέροις καὶ τῇ πανδήμῳ ἀκοῇ τῶν διὰ τοῦ πιστεύειν ἀγομένων ἐπὶ τὸ βέλτιον, ὅμως ἠναγκάσθη ὕστερον ὑπὲρ τοῦ μὴ παρακοῦσαι ἡμᾶς τῶν λόγων αὐτοῦ εἰπεῖν μετὰ τὸ „φορέσωμεν τὴν εἰκόνα τοῦ ἐπουρανίου“ τὸ „τοῦτο δέ φημι, ἀδελφοὶ, ὅτι σὰρξ καὶ αἷμα βασιλείαν θεοῦ κληρονομῆσαι οὐ δύναται, οὐδʼ ἡ φθορὰ τὴν ἀφθαρσίαν κληρονομεῖ.“ εἶτʼ ἐπιστάμενος ἀπόῤῥητόν τι καὶ μυστικὸν κατὰ τὸν τόπον, ὡς ἔπρεπε διὰ γραμμάτων καταλιπόντι τοῖς μετʼ αὐτὸν τὰ νενοημένα εἰρημένα ἐπιφέρει καὶ λέγει· „ἰδοὺ μυστήριον ὑμῖν λέγω, “ ὅ τι περ ἔθος ἐστὶν ἐπιφέρεσθαι τοῖς βαθυτέροις καὶ μυστικωτέροις καὶ καθηκόντως ἀπὸ τῶν πολλῶν κρυπτομένοις· ὥσπερ καὶ ἐν τῷ Τωβὴτ γέγραπται· „μυστήριον βασιλέως καλόν ἐστι κρύπτειν, “ πρὸς δὲ τὸ ἔνδοξον καὶ ἁρμόζον τοῖς πολλοῖς μετὰ τοῦ οἰκονομικῶς ἀληθοῦς „τὰ ἔργα τοῦ θεοῦ ἀνακαλύπτειν ἐνδόξως“ „καλόν.“ οὐ σκωλήκων οὖν ἡ ἐλπὶς ἡμῶν οὐδὲ ποθεῖ ἡμῶν ἡ ψυχὴ τὸ σεσηπὸς σῶμα, ἀλλὰ, κἂν δέηται σώματος διὰ τὰς τοπικὰς μεταβάσεις, νοεῖ ἡ μεμελετηκυῖα τὴν „σοφίαν“ κατὰ τὸ „στόμα δικαίου μελετήσει σοφίαν“ διαφορὰν ἐπιγείου οἰκίας, ἐν ᾗ ἐστι τὸ σκῆνος, καταλυομένης καὶ σκήνους, ἐν ᾧ „οἱ ὄντες“ δίκαιοι στενάζουσι „βαρούμενοι, “ μὴ θέλοντες τὸ σκῆνος ἀπεκδύσασθαι ἀλλὰ τῷ σκήνει „ἐπενδύσασθαι, “ ἵνʼ ἐκ τοῦ „ἐπενδύσασθαι“ „καταποθῇ τὸ θνητὸν ὑπὸ τῆς ζωῆς.“ „δεῖ γὰρ“ τῷ πᾶσαν φύσιν σώματος εἶναι φθαρτὴν „τὸ φθαρτὸν τοῦτο“ σκῆνος „ἐνδύσασθαι ἀφθαρσίαν, “ καὶ τὸ ἕτερον αὐτοῦ, τυγχάνον „θνητὸν“ καὶ δεκτικὸν τοῦ ἐπακολουθοῦντος τῷ ἁμαρτάνειν θανάτου, „ἐνδύσασθαι ἀθανασίαν“· ἵνʼ, ὅτε „τὸ φθαρτὸν“ „ἐνδύσεται τὴν ἀφθαρσίαν καὶ τὸ θνητὸν τὴν ἀθανασίαν. τότε γενήσεται“ τὸ πάλαι ὑπὸ τῶν προφητῶν προειρημένον. ἀναίρεσις τῆς νίκης τοῦ θανάτου, καθὸ νικήσας ἡμᾶς ἑαυτῷ ὑπέταξε, καὶ τοῦ ἀπʼ αὐτοῦ κέντρου, ᾧ κεντῶν τὴν οὐ πάντῃ πεφραγμένην ψυχὴν ἐμποιεῖ αὐτῇ τὰ ἀπὸ τῆς ἁμαρτίας τραύματα.
„Ho theos“ oun „didōsin“ „hekastǭ“ „sōma, kathōs ethelēsen, “ hōsper epi tōn speiromenōn houtō kai epi tōn hoionei speiromenōn en tǭ apothnę̄skein kai kairǭ epitēdeiǭ analambanontōn ek tōn speiromenōn to peritithemenon hekastǭ kata tēn axian „sōma“ hypo tou theou. akouomen de kai tou dia pleionōn didaskontos logou tēn diaphoran tou hoionei speiromenou pros to hōsperei egeiromenon apʼ autou kai legontos; „speiretai en phthorą, egeiretai en aphtharsią; speiretai en atimią, egeiretai en doxę̄; speiretai en astheneią, egeiretai en dynamei; speiretai sōma psychikon, egeiretai sōma pneumatikon.“ ho de dynamenos eti katalambanetō, ti nenoētai tǭ legonti; „hoios ho choïkos, toioutoi kai hoi choïkoi; kai hoios ho epouranios, toioutoi kai hoi epouranioi. kai kathōs ephoresamen tēn eikona tou choïkou, houtō phoresōmen kai tēn eikona tou epouraniou.“ kaitoi de boulomenos kryptein ho apostolos ta kata ton topon aporrhēta kai mē harmozonta tois haplousterois kai tę̄ pandēmǭ akoę̄ tōn dia tou pisteuein agomenōn epi to beltion, homōs ēnankasthē hysteron hyper tou mē parakousai hēmas tōn logōn autou eipein meta to „phoresōmen tēn eikona tou epouraniou“ to „touto de phēmi, adelphoi, hoti sarx kai haima basileian theou klēronomēsai ou dynatai, oudʼ hē phthora tēn aphtharsian klēronomei.“ eitʼ epistamenos aporrhēton ti kai mystikon kata ton topon, hōs eprepe dia grammatōn kataliponti tois metʼ auton ta nenoēmena eirēmena epipherei kai legei; „idou mystērion hymin legō, “ ho ti per ethos estin epipheresthai tois bathyterois kai mystikōterois kai kathēkontōs apo tōn pollōn kryptomenois; hōsper kai en tǭ Tōbēt gegraptai; „mystērion basileōs kalon esti kryptein, “ pros de to endoxon kai harmozon tois pollois meta tou oikonomikōs alēthous „ta erga tou theou anakalyptein endoxōs“ „kalon.“ ou skōlēkōn oun hē elpis hēmōn oude pothei hēmōn hē psychē to sesēpos sōma, alla, kan deētai sōmatos dia tas topikas metabaseis, noei hē memeletēkuia tēn „sophian“ kata to „stoma dikaiou meletēsei sophian“ diaphoran epigeiou oikias, en hę̄ esti to skēnos, katalyomenēs kai skēnous, en hǭ „hoi ontes“ dikaioi stenazousi „baroumenoi, “ mē thelontes to skēnos apekdysasthai alla tǭ skēnei „ependysasthai, “ hinʼ ek tou „ependysasthai“ „katapothę̄ to thnēton hypo tēs zōēs.“ „dei gar“ tǭ pasan physin sōmatos einai phthartēn „to phtharton touto“ skēnos „endysasthai aphtharsian, “ kai to heteron autou, tynchanon „thnēton“ kai dektikon tou epakolouthountos tǭ hamartanein thanatou, „endysasthai athanasian“; hinʼ, hote „to phtharton“ „endysetai tēn aphtharsian kai to thnēton tēn athanasian. tote genēsetai“ to palai hypo tōn prophētōn proeirēmenon. anairesis tēs nikēs tou thanatou, katho nikēsas hēmas heautǭ hypetaxe, kai tou apʼ autou kentrou, hǭ kentōn tēn ou pantę̄ pephragmenēn psychēn empoiei autę̄ ta apo tēs hamartias traumata.
"God," then, "gives to each a body as he has chosen," as with things that are sown, so also with those who are, as it were, sown in dying, and who at the appropriate time receive from what is sown the "body" that God puts upon each according to his worth. We hear also the Word teaching at greater length the difference between what is, as it were, sown and what is, as it were, raised from it, and saying: "It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption; it is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body." Let one who is able grasp further what is meant by the one who says: "As was the man of dust, so are those who are of dust; and as is the heavenly man, so are those who are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, so let us also bear the image of the heavenly man." And although the apostle wished to conceal the secret meanings of the passage, which are not suited to the simpler and to the common hearing of those led to what is better by believing, he was nevertheless compelled afterwards, so that we might not misunderstand his words, to say after "let us bear the image of the heavenly man": "But I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does corruption inherit incorruption." Then, knowing that there was something secret and mystical in the passage, as befitted one leaving his meaning in writing to those after him, he adds: "Behold, I tell you a mystery," which is the customary formula for things that are deeper and more mystical and are rightly hidden from the many; as it is written in Tobit too: "It is good to hide the secret of a king," while, as regards what is glorious and suited to the many, with what is true in the manner of the dispensation, it is "good" "to reveal the works of God gloriously." Our hope, then, is not that of worms, nor does our soul long for the body that has rotted; but, even if it needs a body for moving from place to place, the soul that has meditated on "wisdom," according to "the mouth of the righteous will meditate on wisdom," understands the difference between the earthly house, in which the tent is, which is being destroyed, and the tent in which the righteous, "being" in it, groan, "being burdened," not wishing to put off the tent but to "put on" over the tent, so that by "putting on" over it "what is mortal may be swallowed up by life." For since every nature of body is corruptible, "this corruptible" tent "must put on incorruption," and the other part of it, being "mortal" and liable to the death that follows sin, "must put on immortality"; so that when "the corruptible puts on incorruption and the mortal immortality, then" there "will come about" what was foretold long ago by the prophets: the abolition of the victory of death, by which it conquered us and subjected us to itself, and of its sting, with which it stings the soul that is not fully protected and inflicts on it the wounds of sin.
1 Cor 15:38 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:42–44 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:48–51 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:53–56 (quotation, high confidence) · Ps 37:30 (36:30 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 5:1–4 (quotation, high confidence) · Isa 25:8 (allusion, medium confidence) · Hos 13:14 (allusion, medium confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Paul teaches that the resurrection body is spiritual, incorruptible, and glorious, not the rotted flesh, and speaks of it as a 'mystery'; Christians hope that the mortal will be clothed with immortality and death's sting destroyed.
- The quotations are 1 Cor 15:38, 42–44, 48–51, 53–55; Tob 12:7; Ps 37:30 (36:30 LXX); and 2 Cor 5:1–4. The prophets cited by Paul are Isa 25:8 and Hos 13:14.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (word split by a stray space in the digital text): καθὼς ἐθέ λησεν → καθὼς ἐθέλησεν.
Extrabiblical texts: Tob 12:7 (Tobit [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.19 (Koetschau 2:19–21; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-19).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.20Koetschau 2:21–22
Ἀλλʼ ἐπεὶ τὰ μὲν ἡμέτερα περὶ ἀναστάσεως, ὡς ἐνεχώρει, ἀπὸ τοῦ μέρους ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος λέλεκται (συντέτακται γὰρ ἡμῖν περὶ ἀναστάσεως ἐν ἄλλοις, ἐπὶ πλεῖον ἐξετάσασι τὰ κατὰ τὸν τόπον). τὰ δὲ τοῦ Κέλσου νῦν χρὴ κατὰ τὸ εὔλογον διαλαβεῖν, μήτε νοήσαντος τὸ παρʼ ἡμῖν γεγραμμένον μήτε κρῖναι δυναμένου ὅτι οὐ δεῖ τὸ βούλημα τῶν σοφῶν ἐκείνων ἀνδρῶν νομίζειν πρεσβεύεσθαι ὑπὸ τῶν πλεῖον πίστεως μηδὲν ἐπαγγελλομένων τῆς πρὸς τὸν Χριστιανῶν λόγον· φέρε παραστήσωμεν ὅτι ἀνδράσιν οὐκ εὐκαταφρονήτοις τῆς λογικῆς ἕνεκεν θεωρίας καὶ τῶν διαλεκτικῶν σκεμμάτων σφόδρα ἀπεμφαίνοντα λέλεκται. καὶ εἰ χρὴ μυχθίζειν ὡς ταπεινοὺς καὶ γραώδεις λόγους, ἐκείνους μᾶλλον χρὴ ἢ τοὺς ἡμετέρους. φασὶ δὴ οἱ ἀπὸ τῆς Στοᾶς κατὰ περίοδον ἐκπύρωσιν τοῦ παντὸς γίνεσθαι καὶ ἑξῆς αὐτῇ διακόσμησιν, πάντʼ ἀπαράλλακτα ἔχουσαν ὡς πρὸς τὴν προτέραν διακόσμησιν. ὅσοι δʼ αὐτῶν ᾐδέσθησαν τὸ δόγμα, ὀλίγην εἰρήκασι παραλλαγὴν καὶ σφόδρα βραχεῖαν γίνεσθαι κατὰ περίοδον τοῖς ἐπὶ τῆς πρὸ αὐτῆς περιόδου. οὗτοι δʼ οἱ ἄνδρες φασὶ τῇ ἑξῆς περιόδῳ τοιαῦτα ἔσεσθαι, καὶ Σωκράτην μὲν πάλιν Σωφρονίσκου υἱὸν καὶ Ἀθηναῖον ἔσεσθαι, καὶ τὴν Φαιναρέτην γημαμένην Σωφρονίσκῳ πάλιν αὐτὸν γεννήσειν. κἂν μὴ ὀνομάζωσιν οὖν τὸ τῆς ἀναστάσεως ὄνομα, τὸ πρᾶγμά γε δηλοῦσιν, ὅτι Σωκράτης ἀπὸ σπερμάτων ἀρξάμενος ἀναστήσεται τῶν Σωφρονίσκου καὶ ἐν τῇ ὑστέρᾳ Φαιναρέτης διαπλασθήσεται καὶ ἀνατραφεὶς Ἀθήνῃσι φιλοσοφήσει, οἱονεὶ καὶ τῆς πρότερον φιλοσοφίας ἀνισταμένης καὶ ὁμοίως ἀπαραλλάκτου τῇ προτέρᾳ ἐσομένης. καὶ Ἄνυτος δὲ καὶ Μέλητος ἀναστήσονται πάλιν Σωκράτους κατήγοροι, καὶ ἡ ἐξ Ἀρείου πάγου βουλὴ καταδικάσεται τὸν Σωκράτην. τὸ δὲ τούτων γελοιότερον, τὰ ἀπαράλλακτα ἱμάτια τοῖς ὡς πρὸς τὴν προτέραν περίοδον Σωκράτης ἐνδύσεται, ἐν ἀπαραλλάκτῳ πενίᾳ καὶ ἀπαραλλάκτῳ πόλει ταῖς Ἀθήναις τῇ πρὸς τὴν προτέραν περίοδον ἐσόμενος. καὶ Φάλαρις μὲν τυραννήσει πάλιν, ὁ δὲ χάλκεος αὐτοῦ ταῦρος τῶν ἀπαραλλάκτων τῇ προτέρᾳ ἀνθρώπων περιόδῳ κατακριθέντων μυκήσεται ἀπὸ τῆς τῶν ἔνδον φωνῆς. Ἀλέξανδρός τε ὁ Φεραῖος πάλιν τυραννήσει, τὴν ἀπαράλλακτον ἔχων ὠμότητα τῇ προτέρᾳ καὶ τοὺς ἀπαραλλάκτους καταδικάζων ὡς καὶ τοὺς προτέρους. καὶ τί με δεῖ καταλέγειν τὸ περὶ τῶν τοιούτων δόγμα τοῖς ἀπὸ τῆς Στοᾶς πεφιλοσοφημένον καὶ μὴ γελώμενον ὑπὸ Κέλσου ἀλλὰ τάχα καὶ σεμνυνόμενον, ἐπεὶ δοκεῖ αὐτῷ ὁ Ζήνων τοῦ Ἰησοῦ εἶναι σοφώτερος;
Allʼ epei ta men hēmetera peri anastaseōs, hōs enechōrei, apo tou merous epi tou parontos lelektai (syntetaktai gar hēmin peri anastaseōs en allois, epi pleion exetasasi ta kata ton topon). ta de tou Kelsou nyn chrē kata to eulogon dialabein, mēte noēsantos to parʼ hēmin gegrammenon mēte krinai dynamenou hoti ou dei to boulēma tōn sophōn ekeinōn andrōn nomizein presbeuesthai hypo tōn pleion pisteōs mēden epangellomenōn tēs pros ton Christianōn logon; phere parastēsōmen hoti andrasin ouk eukataphronētois tēs logikēs heneken theōrias kai tōn dialektikōn skemmatōn sphodra apemphainonta lelektai. kai ei chrē mychthizein hōs tapeinous kai graōdeis logous, ekeinous mallon chrē ē tous hēmeterous. phasi dē hoi apo tēs Stoas kata periodon ekpyrōsin tou pantos ginesthai kai hexēs autę̄ diakosmēsin, pantʼ aparallakta echousan hōs pros tēn proteran diakosmēsin. hosoi dʼ autōn ę̄desthēsan to dogma, oligēn eirēkasi parallagēn kai sphodra bracheian ginesthai kata periodon tois epi tēs pro autēs periodou. houtoi dʼ hoi andres phasi tę̄ hexēs periodǭ toiauta esesthai, kai Sōkratēn men palin Sōphroniskou huion kai Athēnaion esesthai, kai tēn Phainaretēn gēmamenēn Sōphroniskǭ palin auton gennēsein. kan mē onomazōsin oun to tēs anastaseōs onoma, to pragma ge dēlousin, hoti Sōkratēs apo spermatōn arxamenos anastēsetai tōn Sōphroniskou kai en tę̄ hysterą Phainaretēs diaplasthēsetai kai anatrapheis Athēnę̄si philosophēsei, hoionei kai tēs proteron philosophias anistamenēs kai homoiōs aparallaktou tę̄ proterą esomenēs. kai Anytos de kai Melētos anastēsontai palin Sōkratous katēgoroi, kai hē ex Areiou pagou boulē katadikasetai ton Sōkratēn. to de toutōn geloioteron, ta aparallakta himatia tois hōs pros tēn proteran periodon Sōkratēs endysetai, en aparallaktǭ penią kai aparallaktǭ polei tais Athēnais tę̄ pros tēn proteran periodon esomenos. kai Phalaris men tyrannēsei palin, ho de chalkeos autou tauros tōn aparallaktōn tę̄ proterą anthrōpōn periodǭ katakrithentōn mykēsetai apo tēs tōn endon phōnēs. Alexandros te ho Pheraios palin tyrannēsei, tēn aparallakton echōn ōmotēta tę̄ proterą kai tous aparallaktous katadikazōn hōs kai tous proterous. kai ti me dei katalegein to peri tōn toioutōn dogma tois apo tēs Stoas pephilosophēmenon kai mē gelōmenon hypo Kelsou alla tacha kai semnynomenon, epei dokei autǭ ho Zēnōn tou Iēsou einai sophōteros?
But since our views on the resurrection have now been stated in part, as far as the occasion allowed (for we have composed a work on the resurrection elsewhere, examining the subject at greater length), we must now reasonably take up Celsus's views. He neither understood what is written among us nor could judge that one must not think the meaning of those wise men is represented by people who profess nothing more than faith in the Christian message. Come, let us show that men not to be despised for their rational contemplation and dialectical inquiries have said things that are very incongruous; and if anyone must be scorned for low and old-wives' talk, it should be they rather than we. The Stoics say that periodically a conflagration of the universe takes place, and after it a new ordering, which has everything indistinguishable from the previous ordering. Those of them who were ashamed of the doctrine have said that there is a slight and very small difference in each cycle from those in the cycle before it. These men say that in the next cycle things will be such that Socrates will again be the son of Sophroniscus and an Athenian, and Phaenarete, married to Sophroniscus, will again bear him. So even if they do not use the word resurrection, they indicate the thing: that Socrates, starting from the seed of Sophroniscus, will rise again and be formed in the womb of Phaenarete, and, brought up in Athens, will practise philosophy, as though his former philosophy too were rising again and would be likewise indistinguishable from the former. And Anytus and Meletus will rise again as Socrates's accusers, and the council of the Areopagus will condemn Socrates. And what is more ridiculous than these, Socrates will wear clothes indistinguishable from those of the former cycle, and will live in indistinguishable poverty and in a city, Athens, indistinguishable from that of the former cycle. And Phalaris will again be tyrant, and his bronze bull will bellow with the voices of those inside, men indistinguishable from those condemned in the former cycle. And Alexander of Pherae will again be tyrant, with a cruelty indistinguishable from the former, condemning men indistinguishable from the former ones. And why must I list the doctrine on such matters taught by the Stoics, which is not mocked by Celsus but perhaps even revered, since he thinks Zeno wiser than Jesus?
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Summary: The Stoic doctrine of endlessly repeated world-cycles, in which Socrates is born, tried, and condemned again and again, is far more absurd than the Christian resurrection, yet Celsus does not mock it.
- Origen's lost treatise On the Resurrection is referred to. Zeno of Citium founded the Stoic school.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (missing accent in the digital text): ᾐδέσθησαν το δόγμα → ᾐδέσθησαν τὸ δόγμα.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.20 (Koetschau 2:21–22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-20).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.21Koetschau 2:22–23
Καὶ οἱ ἀπὸ τοῦ Πυθαγόρου δὲ καὶ Πλάτωνος εἰ καὶ δοκοῦσιν ἄφθαρτον τηρεῖν τὸν κόσμον, ἀλλὰ τοῖς παραπλησίοις γε περιπίπτουσι. τῶν γὰρ ἀστέρων κατά τινας περιόδους τεταγμένας τοὺς αὐτοὺς σχηματισμοὺς καὶ σχέσεις πρὸς ἀλλήλους λαμβανόντων, πάντα τὰ ἐπὶ γῆς ὁμοίως ἔχειν φασὶ τοῖς ὅτε τὸ αὐτὸ σχῆμα τῆς σχέσεως τῶν ἀστέρων περιεῖχεν ὁ κόσμος. ἀνάγκη τοίνυν κατὰ τοῦτον τὸν λόγον τῶν ἀστέρων ἐκ μακρᾶς περιόδου ἐλθόντων ἐπὶ τὴν αὐτὴν σχέσιν πρὸς ἀλλήλους, ὁποίαν εἶχον ἐπὶ Σωκράτους, πάλιν Σωκράτη γενέσθαι ἐκ τῶν αὐτῶν καὶ τὰ αὐτὰ παθεῖν, κατηγορούμενον ὑπὸ Ἀνύτου καὶ Μελήτου καὶ καταδικαζόμενον ὑπὸ τῆς ἐξ Ἀρείου πάγου βουλῆς. καὶ Αἰγυπτίων δὲ οἱ λόγιοι τοιαῦτα παραδιδόντες σεμνοί εἰσι καὶ οὐ γελῶνται ὑπὸ Κέλσου καὶ τῶν παραπλησίων, ἡμεῖς δὲ κατὰ τὴν ἀναλογίαν τῆς σχέσεως τῶν ἐφʼ ἡμῖν ἑκάστου οἰκονομεῖσθαι ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ λέγοντες τὸ πᾶν καὶ ἀεὶ ἄγεσθαι κατὰ τὸ ἐνδεχόμενον ἐπὶ τὸ βέλτιον καὶ τὴν τοῦ ἐφʼ ἡμῖν φύσιν γινώσκοντες ἐνδεχομένου ἃ ἐνδέχεται (οὐ γὰρ δύναται χωρῆσαι τὸ πάντῃ ἄτρεπτον τοῦ θεοῦ) οὐ δοκοῦμεν ἄξια λέγειν βασάνου καὶ ἐξετάσεως·
Kai hoi apo tou Pythagorou de kai Platōnos ei kai dokousin aphtharton tērein ton kosmon, alla tois paraplēsiois ge peripiptousi. tōn gar asterōn kata tinas periodous tetagmenas tous autous schēmatismous kai scheseis pros allēlous lambanontōn, panta ta epi gēs homoiōs echein phasi tois hote to auto schēma tēs scheseōs tōn asterōn perieichen ho kosmos. anankē toinyn kata touton ton logon tōn asterōn ek makras periodou elthontōn epi tēn autēn schesin pros allēlous, hopoian eichon epi Sōkratous, palin Sōkratē genesthai ek tōn autōn kai ta auta pathein, katēgoroumenon hypo Anytou kai Melētou kai katadikazomenon hypo tēs ex Areiou pagou boulēs. kai Aigyptiōn de hoi logioi toiauta paradidontes semnoi eisi kai ou gelōntai hypo Kelsou kai tōn paraplēsiōn, hēmeis de kata tēn analogian tēs scheseōs tōn ephʼ hēmin hekastou oikonomeisthai hypo tou theou legontes to pan kai aei agesthai kata to endechomenon epi to beltion kai tēn tou ephʼ hēmin physin ginōskontes endechomenou ha endechetai (ou gar dynatai chōrēsai to pantę̄ atrepton tou theou) ou dokoumen axia legein basanou kai exetaseōs;
And the followers of Pythagoras and Plato, even if they seem to keep the world indestructible, fall into similar absurdities. For since the stars, at certain appointed periods, take up the same configurations and relations to one another, they say that everything on earth is in the same state as when the world contained the same configuration of the stars' relation. By this reasoning, then, when the stars, after a long period, come to the same relation to one another that they had in the time of Socrates, Socrates must be born again of the same parents and suffer the same things, accused by Anytus and Meletus and condemned by the council of the Areopagus. And the learned among the Egyptians, who hand down such things, are held in honour and not mocked by Celsus and those like him; while we, who say that the universe is administered by God in proportion to the free will of each person, and is always being led, as far as possible, toward what is better, and who know the nature of our free will, which admits of what it admits (for it cannot hold the complete unchangeableness of God), are not thought to say anything worthy of testing and examination.
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Summary: Pythagoreans and Platonists teach that when the stars return to the same positions history, including Socrates' trial, repeats itself; yet Celsus mocks only the Christians, who hold that God guides free creatures toward the better.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.21 (Koetschau 2:22–23; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-21).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.22Koetschau 2:23–24
Μὴ ὑπονοείτω δέ τις ἡμᾶς ταῦτα λέγοντας ἀπʼ ἐκείνων εἶναι τῶν λεγομένων μὲν Χριστιανῶν ἀθετούντων δὲ τὸ περὶ ἀναστάσεως κατὰ τὰς γραφὰς δόγμα. ἐκεῖνοι μὲν γὰρ τὸν οἱονεὶ ἀπὸ κόκκου „σίτου ἤ τινος τῶν λοιπῶν“ ἀνιστάμενον στάχυν ἢ δένδρον οὐδαμῶς παραστῆσαι ἔχουσιν. ὅσον ἐπὶ τῷ ἀρέσκοντι ἑαυτῶν· ἡμεῖς δὲ πειθόμενοι ὅτι τὸ σπειρόμενον „οὐ ζωοποιεῖται, ἐὰν μὴ ἀποθάνῃ, “ καὶ ὅτι „οὐ τὸ γενησόμενον σῶμα“ σπείρεται (ὁ γὰρ „θεὸς αὐτῷ δίδωσι σῶμα, καθὼς ἠθέλησε, “ μετὰ τὸ σπαρῆναι „ἐν φθορᾷ“ ἐγείρων αὐτὸ „ἐν ἀφθαρσίᾳ“ καὶ μετὰ τὸ σπαρῆναι „ἐν ἀτιμίᾳ“ ἐγείρων αὐτὸ „ἐν δόξῃ“ καὶ μετὰ τὸ σπαρῆναι „ἐν ἀσθενείᾳ“ ἐγείρων αὐτὸ „ἐν δυνάμει“ καὶ μετὰ τὸ σπαρῆναι „σῶμα ψυχικὸν“ ἐγείρων αὐτὸ „πνευματικὸν“), τηροῦμεν καὶ τὸ βούλημα τῆς ἐκκλησίας τοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ τὸ μέγεθος τῆς ἐπαγγελίας τοῦ θεοῦ, παριστάντες αὐτοῦ καὶ τὸ δυνατὸν οὐκ ἀποφάσει ἀλλὰ καὶ λόγῳ· εἰδότες ὅτι κἂν „οὐρανὸς καὶ γῆ“ παρέλθῃ καὶ τὰ ἐν αὐτοῖς, ἀλλʼ οἱ περὶ ἑκάστου „λόγοι“ ὄντες ὡς ἐν ὅλῳ μέρη ἢ ὡς ἐν γένει εἴδη τοῦ „ἐν ἀρχῇ“ λόγου „πρὸς τὸν θεὸν“ θεοῦ λόγου οὐδαμῶς παρελεύσονται. θέλομεν γὰρ ἀκούειν τοῦ εἰπόντος· „ὁ οὐρανὸς καὶ ἡ γῆ παρελεύσεται, οἱ δὲ λόγοι μου οὐ μὴ παρέλθωσιν.“
Mē hyponoeitō de tis hēmas tauta legontas apʼ ekeinōn einai tōn legomenōn men Christianōn athetountōn de to peri anastaseōs kata tas graphas dogma. ekeinoi men gar ton hoionei apo kokkou „sitou ē tinos tōn loipōn“ anistamenon stachyn ē dendron oudamōs parastēsai echousin. hoson epi tǭ areskonti heautōn; hēmeis de peithomenoi hoti to speiromenon „ou zōopoieitai, ean mē apothanę̄, “ kai hoti „ou to genēsomenon sōma“ speiretai (ho gar „theos autǭ didōsi sōma, kathōs ēthelēse, “ meta to sparēnai „en phthorą“ egeirōn auto „en aphtharsią“ kai meta to sparēnai „en atimią“ egeirōn auto „en doxę̄“ kai meta to sparēnai „en astheneią“ egeirōn auto „en dynamei“ kai meta to sparēnai „sōma psychikon“ egeirōn auto „pneumatikon“), tēroumen kai to boulēma tēs ekklēsias tou Christou kai to megethos tēs epangelias tou theou, paristantes autou kai to dynaton ouk apophasei alla kai logǭ; eidotes hoti kan „ouranos kai gē“ parelthę̄ kai ta en autois, allʼ hoi peri hekastou „logoi“ ontes hōs en holǭ merē ē hōs en genei eidē tou „en archę̄“ logou „pros ton theon“ theou logou oudamōs pareleusontai. thelomen gar akouein tou eipontos; „ho ouranos kai hē gē pareleusetai, hoi de logoi mou ou mē parelthōsin.“
Let no one suspect, because we say these things, that we are among those who are called Christians but reject the doctrine of the resurrection according to the Scriptures. For they, as far as their own opinion goes, can in no way show the ear or the tree rising, as it were, from a grain "of wheat or of some other kind"; but we, persuaded that what is sown "does not come to life unless it dies," and that "not the body that is to be" is sown (for "God gives it a body as he has chosen," raising it "in incorruption" after it has been sown "in corruption," raising it "in glory" after it has been sown "in dishonour," raising it "in power" after it has been sown "in weakness," and raising it "spiritual" after it has been sown "a natural body"), keep both the mind of the church of Christ and the greatness of God's promise, showing its possibility not by bare assertion but also by reason; knowing that even if "heaven and earth" and what is in them pass away, yet the "words" (logoi) concerning each thing, being like parts in a whole or species in a genus of the Word who was "in the beginning with God," God the Word, will never pass away. For we wish to heed the one who said: "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away."
1 Cor 15:36–38 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:42–44 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1–2 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 24:35 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Origen distances himself from Christians who deny the resurrection: following Paul's seed image, he holds that God raises a transformed, incorruptible body, and that the 'words' of things, rooted in the divine Word, never pass away.
- The quotations are 1 Cor 15:36–38, 42–44, John 1:1–2, and Matt 24:35. Origen plays on λόγοι ("words", also the rational principles of things) and the Logos.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (duplicated quotation mark in the digital text): ἀποθάνῃ, “ “καὶ → ἀποθάνῃ, “ καὶ.
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.22 (Koetschau 2:23–24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-22).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.23Koetschau 2:24–25
Ἡμεῖς μὲν οὖν οὔ φαμεν τὸ διαφθαρὲν σῶμα ἐπανέρχεσθαι εἰς τὴν ἐξ ἀρχῆς φύσιν, ὡς οὐδὲ τὸν διαφθαρέντα „κόκκον“ τοῦ „σίτου“ ἐπανέρχεσθαι εἰς τὸν „κόκκον“ τοῦ „σίτου.“ λέγομεν γὰρ, ὥσπερ ἐπὶ τοῦ κόκκου τοῦ „σίτου“ ἐγείρεται στάχυς. οὕτως λόγος τις ἔγκειται τῷ σώματι, ἀφʼ οὗ μὴ φθειρομένου „ἐγείρεται“ τὸ σῶμα „ἐν ἀφθαρσίᾳ.“ οἱ μέντοι ἀπὸ τῆς Στοᾶς τὸ πάντῃ διαφθαρὲν σῶμά φασιν ἐπανέρχεσθαι εἰς τὴν ἐξ ἀρχῆς φύσιν διὰ τὰ δεδογμένα αὐτοῖς περὶ τῶν κατὰ περίοδον ἀπαραλλάκτων, καὶ αὐτὴν ἐκείνην, ἐξ ἧς ἐλύθη, τὴν πρώτην σύστασιν πάλιν φασὶ συστήσεσθαι, διαλεκτικαῖς (ὡς οἴονται) ἀνάγκαις ταῦτα παριστάντες. καὶ οὐκ εἰς ἀτοπωτάτην γε ἀναχώρησιν ἀναχωροῦμεν λέγοντες ὅτι πᾶν δυνατὸν τῷ θεῷ· οἴδαμεν γὰρ ἀκούειν τοῦ πᾶν οὐκ ἐπὶ τῶν ἀνυπάρκτων οὐδʼ ἐπὶ τῶν ἀδιανοήτων. φαμὲν δὲ καὶ ὅτι οὐ δύναται αἰσχρὰ ὁ θεὸς, ἐπεὶ ἔσται ὁ θεὸς δυνάμενος μὴ εἶναι θεός· εἰ γὰρ αἰσχρόν τι δρᾷ θεὸς, οὐκ ἔστι θεός. ἐπεὶ δὲ τίθησιν ὅτι καὶ τὰ παρὰ φύσιν ὁ θεὸς οὐ βούλεται, διαστελλόμεθα τὸ λεγόμενον· ὅτι εἰ μὲν παρὰ φύσιν τὴν κακίαν τις λέγει, καὶ ἡμεῖς λέγομεν ὅτι οὐ βούλεται τὰ παρὰ φύσιν ὁ θεὸς, οὔτε τὰ ἀπὸ κακίας οὔτε τὰ ἀλόγως γινόμενα· εἰ δὲ τὰ κατὰ λόγον θεοῦ καὶ βούλησιν αὐτοῦ γινόμενα, ἀναγκαῖον εὐθέως εἶναι μὴ παρὰ φύσιν· οὐ (γὰρ) παρὰ φύσιν τὰ πραττόμενα ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ, κἂν παράδοξα ᾖ ἢ δοκοῦντά τισι παράδοξα. εἰ δὲ χρὴ βεβιασμένως ὀνομάσαι, ἐροῦμεν ὅτι ὡς πρὸς τὴν κοινοτέραν νοουμένην φύσιν ἐστί τινα ὑπὲρ τὴν φύσιν, ἃ ποιήσαι ἄν ποτε θεὸς, ὑπὲρ τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην φύσιν ἀναβιβάζων τὸν ἄνθρωπον καὶ ποιῶν αὐτὸν μεταβάλλειν ἐπὶ φύσιν κρείττονα καὶ θειοτέραν καὶ τηρῶν τοιοῦτον, ὅσον καὶ ὁ τηρούμενος διʼ ὧν πράττει παρίστησιν ὅτι βούλεται.
Hēmeis men oun ou phamen to diaphtharen sōma epanerchesthai eis tēn ex archēs physin, hōs oude ton diaphtharenta „kokkon“ tou „sitou“ epanerchesthai eis ton „kokkon“ tou „sitou.“ legomen gar, hōsper epi tou kokkou tou „sitou“ egeiretai stachys. houtōs logos tis enkeitai tǭ sōmati, aphʼ hou mē phtheiromenou „egeiretai“ to sōma „en aphtharsią.“ hoi mentoi apo tēs Stoas to pantę̄ diaphtharen sōma phasin epanerchesthai eis tēn ex archēs physin dia ta dedogmena autois peri tōn kata periodon aparallaktōn, kai autēn ekeinēn, ex hēs elythē, tēn prōtēn systasin palin phasi systēsesthai, dialektikais (hōs oiontai) anankais tauta paristantes. kai ouk eis atopōtatēn ge anachōrēsin anachōroumen legontes hoti pan dynaton tǭ theǭ; oidamen gar akouein tou pan ouk epi tōn anyparktōn oudʼ epi tōn adianoētōn. phamen de kai hoti ou dynatai aischra ho theos, epei estai ho theos dynamenos mē einai theos; ei gar aischron ti drą theos, ouk esti theos. epei de tithēsin hoti kai ta para physin ho theos ou bouletai, diastellometha to legomenon; hoti ei men para physin tēn kakian tis legei, kai hēmeis legomen hoti ou bouletai ta para physin ho theos, oute ta apo kakias oute ta alogōs ginomena; ei de ta kata logon theou kai boulēsin autou ginomena, anankaion eutheōs einai mē para physin; ou (gar) para physin ta prattomena hypo tou theou, kan paradoxa ę̄ ē dokounta tisi paradoxa. ei de chrē bebiasmenōs onomasai, eroumen hoti hōs pros tēn koinoteran nooumenēn physin esti tina hyper tēn physin, ha poiēsai an pote theos, hyper tēn anthrōpinēn physin anabibazōn ton anthrōpon kai poiōn auton metaballein epi physin kreittona kai theioteran kai tērōn toiouton, hoson kai ho tēroumenos diʼ hōn prattei paristēsin hoti bouletai.
We, then, do not say that the body that has been corrupted returns to its original nature, just as the corrupted "grain" of "wheat" does not return to being the "grain" of "wheat." For we say that, just as an ear rises from the grain of "wheat," so a certain principle (logos) is present in the body, from which, since it is not corrupted, the body "is raised in incorruption." It is the Stoics who say that the body utterly corrupted returns to its original nature, because of their doctrines about indistinguishable things in each cycle, and they say that the very first composition, from which it was dissolved, will be composed again, establishing this, as they think, by dialectical necessities. Nor do we flee to "a most absurd escape" in saying that "everything is possible for God"; for we know how to understand "everything" as not applying to things that do not exist, or to things that are inconceivable. And we also say that God cannot do shameful things, since then God would be able not to be God; for if God does something shameful, he is not God. And since he states that God does not will "what is contrary to nature" either, we distinguish what is said: if someone calls vice contrary to nature, we too say that God does not will what is contrary to nature, whether what comes from vice or what happens irrationally; but if things happen according to God's reason and will, it follows at once that they are not contrary to nature; for what God does is not contrary to nature, even if it is marvellous or seems marvellous to some. And if we must use a forced expression, we will say that, in relation to what is more commonly understood as nature, there are some things above nature which God might sometimes do, raising man above human nature and making him change into a better and more divine nature, and keeping him such, as long as the one kept shows by his actions that he wishes it.
1 Cor 15:37 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:42 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 19:26 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Christians do not claim the decayed body returns as it was, as the Stoics do; like wheat from a grain, a new incorruptible body rises from a principle in the old; and God's power, though limitless, never acts shamefully or against reason.
- The allusions are 1 Cor 15:37, 42 and Matt 19:26. The parentheses (γὰρ) is the editor's supplement.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (misread letter in the digital text): τᾷ θεῷ → τῷ θεῷ.
Topics: Eschatology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.23 (Koetschau 2:24–25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-23).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.24Koetschau 2:25
Ἅπαξ δʼ εἰπόντες ὅτι οὐδὲν μὴ πρέπον ἑαυτῷ ὁ θεὸς βούλεται, ἀναιρετικὸν τυγχάνον τοῦ εἶναι αὐτὸν θεὸν, φήσομεν ὅτι, ἐάν τι κατὰ τὴν μοχθηρίαν ἑαυτοῦ ἄνθρωπος βδελυρὸν βούληται, τοῦτο οὐ δυνήσεται ὁ θεός. οὕτω δὲ οὐκ ἐσμὲν φιλόνεικοι πρὸς τὰ ὑπὸ Κέλσου λεγόμενα, ἀλλὰ φιλαλήθως αὐτὰ ἐξετάζοντες συμφήσομεν ὅτι οὐκ ἔστι τῆς πλημμελοῦς ὀρέξεως οὐδὲ τῆς πεπλανημένης ἀκοσμίας ἀλλὰ τῆς ὀρθῆς καὶ δικαίας φύσεως ὁ θεὸς, ἅτε ἀρχηγέτης τυγχάνων παντὸς καλοῦ· καὶ ἄλλο ὅτι ψυχῆς αἰώνιον βιοτὴν δύναται παρασχεῖν ὁμολογοῦμεν, καὶ οὐ μόνον δύναται ἀλλὰ καὶ παρέχει. οὐδὲν δὲ μάλιστα διὰ τὰ προειρημένα λυπεῖ ἡμᾶς οὐδὲ τὸ ὑπὸ Ἡρακλείτου λεγόμενον, ὅπερ Κέλσος παρείληφεν, ὅτι „νέκυές εἰσι κοπρίων ἐκβλητότεροι“· καίτοι γε εἴποι τις ἂν καὶ περὶ τούτου ὅτι τὰ μὲν κόπρια ἐκβλητά ἐστιν, οἱ δʼ ἐξ ἀνθρώπου νέκυες διὰ τὴν ἐνοικήσασαν ψυχὴν, καὶ μάλιστα ἐὰν ᾖ ἀστειοτέρα, οὐκ ἐκβλητοί. κατὰ γὰρ τοὺς ἀστειοτέρους τῶν νόμων μετὰ τῆς ἐνδεχομένης ὡς πρὸς τὰ τοιαῦτα τιμῆς ταφῆς ἀξιοῦνται· ἵνα μὴ ὑβρίζωμεν τῇ δυνάμει τὴν ἐνοικήσασαν ψυχὴν, ἀποῤῥιπτοῦντες μετὰ τὸ ἐξελθεῖν ἐκείνην τὸ σῶμα ὡς καὶ τὰ τῶν κτηνῶν σώματα. μὴ βουλέσθω οὖν ὁ θεὸς παραλόγως αἰώνιον ἀποφῆναι μήτε τὸν τοῦ „σίτου“ „κόκκον“ ἀλλʼ ἢ ἄρα τὸν ἐξ αὐτοῦ στάχυν, μηδὲ τὸ σπειρόμενον „ἐν φθορᾷ“ ἀλλὰ τὸ ἀπʼ αὐτοῦ ἐγειρόμενον „ἐν ἀφθαρσίᾳ.“ ἀλλὰ καὶ ὁ τῶν πάντων λόγος ἐστὶ κατὰ μὲν Κέλσον αὐτὸς ὁ θεὸς, κατὰ δὲ ἡμᾶς ὁ υἱὸς αὐτοῦ· περὶ οὗ φιλοσοφοῦντες λέγομεν τό· „ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεὸν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.“ ἀλλὰ καὶ καθʼ ἡμᾶς οὐδὲν οἷός τε παράλογον οὐδὲ παρʼ ἑαυτὸν ἐργάσασθαί ἐστιν ὁ θεός.
Hapax dʼ eipontes hoti ouden mē prepon heautǭ ho theos bouletai, anairetikon tynchanon tou einai auton theon, phēsomen hoti, ean ti kata tēn mochthērian heautou anthrōpos bdelyron boulētai, touto ou dynēsetai ho theos. houtō de ouk esmen philoneikoi pros ta hypo Kelsou legomena, alla philalēthōs auta exetazontes symphēsomen hoti ouk esti tēs plēmmelous orexeōs oude tēs peplanēmenēs akosmias alla tēs orthēs kai dikaias physeōs ho theos, hate archēgetēs tynchanōn pantos kalou; kai allo hoti psychēs aiōnion biotēn dynatai paraschein homologoumen, kai ou monon dynatai alla kai parechei. ouden de malista dia ta proeirēmena lypei hēmas oude to hypo Hērakleitou legomenon, hoper Kelsos pareilēphen, hoti „nekyes eisi kopriōn ekblētoteroi“; kaitoi ge eipoi tis an kai peri toutou hoti ta men kopria ekblēta estin, hoi dʼ ex anthrōpou nekyes dia tēn enoikēsasan psychēn, kai malista ean ę̄ asteiotera, ouk ekblētoi. kata gar tous asteioterous tōn nomōn meta tēs endechomenēs hōs pros ta toiauta timēs taphēs axiountai; hina mē hybrizōmen tę̄ dynamei tēn enoikēsasan psychēn, aporrhiptountes meta to exelthein ekeinēn to sōma hōs kai ta tōn ktēnōn sōmata. mē boulesthō oun ho theos paralogōs aiōnion apophēnai mēte ton tou „sitou“ „kokkon“ allʼ ē ara ton ex autou stachyn, mēde to speiromenon „en phthorą“ alla to apʼ autou egeiromenon „en aphtharsią.“ alla kai ho tōn pantōn logos esti kata men Kelson autos ho theos, kata de hēmas ho huios autou; peri hou philosophountes legomen to; „en archę̄ ēn ho logos, kai ho logos ēn pros ton theon, kai theos ēn ho logos.“ alla kai kathʼ hēmas ouden hoios te paralogon oude parʼ heauton ergasasthai estin ho theos.
Having said once that God wills nothing unbefitting himself, which would do away with his being God, we will say that, if a man in his wickedness wills something loathsome, God will not be able to do it. We are not contentious toward what Celsus says, but, examining it with love of truth, we will agree that God is the author not of faulty appetite nor of wandering disorder, but of right and just nature, since he is the founder of everything good. And we also acknowledge that he can provide everlasting life for the soul; and not only can, but does provide it. And, especially because of what was said before, we are not at all troubled by the saying of Heraclitus that Celsus quoted, that "corpses are more fit to be thrown out than dung." Yet one might say of this too that dung is fit to be thrown out, but human corpses, because of the soul that dwelt in them, and especially if it was a better one, are not fit to be thrown out. For according to the better laws they are thought worthy of burial with such honour as is possible for such things, so that we may not, as far as in us lies, insult the soul that dwelt in the body by throwing the body away, after the soul has left it, like the bodies of cattle. Let God, then, not will to make everlasting, contrary to reason, the "grain" of "wheat," but rather the ear that comes from it; nor what is sown "in corruption," but what is raised from it "in incorruption." But the Reason (Logos) of all things is, according to Celsus, God himself; according to us, his Son, concerning whom we say in our philosophy: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." But according to us too, God cannot do anything contrary to reason or contrary to himself.
1 Cor 15:42 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence)
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Summary: Origen agrees that God does nothing shameful and gives the soul eternal life; human corpses deserve honorable burial because of the soul that lived in them, and what God makes eternal is the new body raised from the seed.
- The saying is Heraclitus, fragment B96 Diels–Kranz. The quotations are 1 Cor 15:37, 42 and John 1:1. Origen answers Celsus's claim that God is "the reason (logos) of all things" by identifying the Logos with the Son.
Extrabiblical texts: Heraclitus, B96 (Heraclitus (fragments); quotation)
Topics: Eschatology, Christology
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.24 (Koetschau 2:25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-24).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.25Koetschau 2:25–26
Ἴδωμεν δὲ καὶ τὴν ἑξῆς τοῦ Κέλσου λέξιν, οὕτως ἔχουσαν· Ἰουδαῖοι μὲν οὖν ἔθνος ἴδιον γενόμενοι καὶ κατὰ τὸ ἐπιχώριον νόμους θέμενοι καὶ τούτους ἐν σφίσιν ἔτι νῦν περιστέλλοντες καὶ θρησκείαν ὁποίαν δὴ, πάτριον δʼ οὖν, φυλάσσοντες ὅμοια τοῖς ἄλλοις ἀνθρώποις δρῶσιν, ὅτι ἕκαστοι τὰ πάτρια, ὁποῖά ποτʼ ἂν τύχῃ (καθεστηκότα), περιέπουσι. δοκεῖ δʼ οὕτως καὶ συμφέρειν, οὐ μόνον καθότι ἐπὶ νοῦν ἦλθεν ἄλλοις ἄλλως νομίσαι καὶ δεῖ φυλάττειν τὰ ἐς κοινὸν κεκυρωμένα, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὅτι ὡς εἰκὸς τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἄλλα ἄλλοις ἐπόπταις νενεμημένα καὶ κατά τινας ἐπικρατείας διειλημμένα ταύτῃ καὶ διοικεῖται. καὶ δὴ τὰ παρʼ ἑκάστοις ὀρθῶς ἂν πράττοιτο ταύτῃ δρώμενα, ὅπῃ ἐκείνοις φίλον· παραλύειν δὲ οὐχ ὅσιον εἶναι τὰ ἐξ ἀρχῆς κατὰ τόπους νενομισμένα. ἐν τούτοις δὴ ὁ Κέλσος ἐμφαίνει ὅτι οἱ πάλαι Αἰγύπτιοι Ἰουδαῖοι ὕστερον ἔθνος ἐγίνοντο ἴδιον, καὶ νόμους θέμενοι τούτους περιστέλλουσι. καὶ ἵνα μὴ ἐπαναλάβωμεν τὰς ἐκκειμένας τοῦ Κέλσου λέξεις, φησὶ καὶ συμφέρειν τούτοις τὰ πάτρια θρησκεύειν ὁμοίως τοῖς ἄλλοις ἔθνεσι τὰ ἴδια περιέπουσι. καὶ βαθυτέραν τινὰ ἐκτίθεται περὶ τοῦ συμφέρειν Ἰουδαίοις περιέπειν τὰ πάτρια αἰτίαν, αἰνισσόμενος ὅτι τοὺς ἑκάστων νόμους οἱ λαχόντες ἐπόπται εἶναι τῆς γῆς τῶν νομοθετουμένων συνεργοῦντες τοῖς νομοθέταις ἔθεντο. ἔοικεν οὖν δηλοῦν ὅτι καὶ τὴν Ἰουδαίων χώραν καὶ τὸ ἐπʼ αὐτῆς ἔθνος ἐποπτεύει τις ἤ τινες, ὑφʼ οὗ ἢ ὑφʼ ὧν οἱ Ἰουδαίων νόμοι συνεργοῦντος ἢ συνεργούντων Μωϋσεῖ ἐτέθησαν.
Idōmen de kai tēn hexēs tou Kelsou lexin, houtōs echousan; Ioudaioi men oun ethnos idion genomenoi kai kata to epichōrion nomous themenoi kai toutous en sphisin eti nyn peristellontes kai thrēskeian hopoian dē, patrion dʼ oun, phylassontes homoia tois allois anthrōpois drōsin, hoti hekastoi ta patria, hopoia potʼ an tychę̄ (kathestēkota), periepousi. dokei dʼ houtōs kai sympherein, ou monon kathoti epi noun ēlthen allois allōs nomisai kai dei phylattein ta es koinon kekyrōmena, alla kai hoti hōs eikos ta merē tēs gēs ex archēs alla allois epoptais nenemēmena kai kata tinas epikrateias dieilēmmena tautę̄ kai dioikeitai. kai dē ta parʼ hekastois orthōs an prattoito tautę̄ drōmena, hopę̄ ekeinois philon; paralyein de ouch hosion einai ta ex archēs kata topous nenomismena. en toutois dē ho Kelsos emphainei hoti hoi palai Aigyptioi Ioudaioi hysteron ethnos eginonto idion, kai nomous themenoi toutous peristellousi. kai hina mē epanalabōmen tas ekkeimenas tou Kelsou lexeis, phēsi kai sympherein toutois ta patria thrēskeuein homoiōs tois allois ethnesi ta idia periepousi. kai bathyteran tina ektithetai peri tou sympherein Ioudaiois periepein ta patria aitian, ainissomenos hoti tous hekastōn nomous hoi lachontes epoptai einai tēs gēs tōn nomothetoumenōn synergountes tois nomothetais ethento. eoiken oun dēloun hoti kai tēn Ioudaiōn chōran kai to epʼ autēs ethnos epopteuei tis ē tines, hyphʼ hou ē hyphʼ hōn hoi Ioudaiōn nomoi synergountos ē synergountōn Mōÿsei etethēsan.
Let us look also at Celsus's next passage, which runs thus: "The Jews, then, having become a nation of their own and made laws according to their country's custom, and still maintaining these among themselves, and keeping a worship, whatever sort it may be, but at any rate ancestral, act like other human beings, since each people cherishes its ancestral customs, whatever they happen to be. And this seems to be beneficial, not only because it has occurred to different peoples to think differently and one must keep what has been established for the community, but also because, as is likely, the parts of the earth were from the beginning allotted to different overseers and divided into certain dominions, and are administered in this way. And indeed, the things done among each people would be rightly done in the way that pleases those overseers; while it is not holy to abolish what has been customary in each place from the beginning." In this Celsus shows that the Jews, formerly Egyptians, later became a nation of their own, and having made laws they maintain them. And, not to repeat Celsus's words set out above, he says it is beneficial for them to practise their ancestral worship, as other nations cherish their own. And he sets out a deeper reason why it is beneficial for the Jews to cherish their ancestral customs, hinting that the laws of each people were made by those allotted to be overseers of the earth, who cooperated with the lawgivers of the lands being given laws. He seems, then, to indicate that someone, or some beings, oversee the land of the Jews and the nation in it, by whose cooperation Moses made the Jews' laws.
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Summary: Celsus says the Jews, like every nation, rightly keep their ancestral laws, since each land has its own divine overseers who guided its lawgivers.
- The parenthetical (καθεστηκότα) is the editor's supplement.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.25 (Koetschau 2:25–26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-25).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.26Koetschau 2:26–27
Καὶ χρὴ, φησὶ, τοὺς νόμους τηρεῖν, οὐ μόνον καθότι ἐπὶ νοῦν ἦλθεν ἄλλοις ἄλλως νομίσαι καὶ ὅτι δεῖ φυλάσσειν τὰ ἐς κοινὸν κεκυρωμένα, ἀλλὰ καὶ ὅτι ὡς εἰκὸς τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἄλλα ἄλλοις ἐπόπταις νενεμημένα καὶ κατά τινας ἐπικρατείας διειλημμένα ταύτῃ καὶ διοικεῖται. εἶθʼ ὡσπερεὶ ἐπιλαθόμενος ὁ Κέλσος ὧν εἶπε κατὰ Ἰουδαίων, νῦν ἐν τῷ καθολικῷ περὶ πάντων τῶν τὰ πάτρια τηρούντων ἐπαίνῳ καὶ τούτους περιλαμβάνει λέγων· καὶ δὴ τὰ παρʼ ἑκάστοις ὀρθῶς ἂν πράττοιτο ταύτῃ δρώμενα, ὅπῃ ἐκείνοις φίλον. καὶ ὅρα εἰ μὴ ἄντικρυς τὸ ὅσον ἐφʼ ἑαυτῷ τὸν Ἰουδαῖον ἐν τοῖς ἰδίοις νόμοις βούλεται βιοῦντα μὴ ἀφίστασθαι αὐτῶν, ὡς οὐχ ὅσιον πράττοντα, ἐὰν ἀποστῇ· λέγει γὰρ ὅτι παραλύειν οὐχ ὅσιον εἶναι τὰ ἐξ ἀρχῆς κατὰ τόπους νενομισμένα. ἐβουλόμην δὲ πρὸς ταῦτα αὐτοῦ ἢ τῶν συμφρονούντων αὐτῷ πυθέσθαι, τίς ἄρα εἴη ὁ τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἄλλα ἄλλοις ἐπόπταις διανείμας καὶ δηλονότι τὴν Ἰουδαίων χώραν καὶ τοὺς Ἰουδαίους τῷ λαχόντι ἢ τοῖς λαχοῦσιν αὐτήν. ἆρα γὰρ. ὡς ὀνομάσαι ἂν ὁ Κέλσος, ὁ Ζεύς τινι ἤ τισι διένειμε τὸ Ἰουδαίων ἔθνος καὶ τὴν χώραν αὐτῶν καὶ ἐβούλετο τὸν λαχόντα τὴν Ἰουδαίαν τοιούτους θέσθαι ἐν Ἰουδαίοις νόμους; ἢ παρὰ τὸ βούλημα αὐτοῦ τὸ τοιοῦτον γεγένηται; ὡς δʼ ἂν ἀποκρίνηται. ὁρᾷς ὅτι ὁ λόγος στενοχωρηθήσεται. εἰ δὲ μὴ ἀπό τινος ἑνὸς διανενέμηται τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς τοῖς ἐπόπταις αὐτῶν, ἄρα ἀποκληρωτικῶς καὶ χωρὶς ἐπιστάτου ἕκαστος ὡς ἔτυχε διενείματο τὴν γῆν· ἀλλὰ καὶ τοῦτʼ ἄτοπον καὶ μετρίως τῆς τοῦ ἐπὶ πᾶσι θεοῦ προνοίας ἀναιρετικόν ἐστι.
Kai chrē, phēsi, tous nomous tērein, ou monon kathoti epi noun ēlthen allois allōs nomisai kai hoti dei phylassein ta es koinon kekyrōmena, alla kai hoti hōs eikos ta merē tēs gēs ex archēs alla allois epoptais nenemēmena kai kata tinas epikrateias dieilēmmena tautę̄ kai dioikeitai. eithʼ hōsperei epilathomenos ho Kelsos hōn eipe kata Ioudaiōn, nyn en tǭ katholikǭ peri pantōn tōn ta patria tērountōn epainǭ kai toutous perilambanei legōn; kai dē ta parʼ hekastois orthōs an prattoito tautę̄ drōmena, hopę̄ ekeinois philon. kai hora ei mē antikrys to hoson ephʼ heautǭ ton Ioudaion en tois idiois nomois bouletai biounta mē aphistasthai autōn, hōs ouch hosion prattonta, ean apostę̄; legei gar hoti paralyein ouch hosion einai ta ex archēs kata topous nenomismena. eboulomēn de pros tauta autou ē tōn symphronountōn autǭ pythesthai, tis ara eiē ho ta merē tēs gēs ex archēs alla allois epoptais dianeimas kai dēlonoti tēn Ioudaiōn chōran kai tous Ioudaious tǭ lachonti ē tois lachousin autēn. ara gar. hōs onomasai an ho Kelsos, ho Zeus tini ē tisi dieneime to Ioudaiōn ethnos kai tēn chōran autōn kai ebouleto ton lachonta tēn Ioudaian toioutous thesthai en Ioudaiois nomous? ē para to boulēma autou to toiouton gegenētai? hōs dʼ an apokrinētai. horąs hoti ho logos stenochōrēthēsetai. ei de mē apo tinos henos dianenemētai ta merē tēs gēs tois epoptais autōn, ara apoklērōtikōs kai chōris epistatou hekastos hōs etyche dieneimato tēn gēn; alla kai toutʼ atopon kai metriōs tēs tou epi pasi theou pronoias anairetikon esti.
"And one must keep the laws," he says, "not only because it has occurred to different peoples to think differently and one must keep what has been established for the community, but also because, as is likely, the parts of the earth were from the beginning allotted to different overseers and divided into certain dominions, and are administered in this way." Then, as though forgetting what he said against the Jews, Celsus now includes them in his general praise of all who keep their ancestral customs, saying: "And indeed, the things done among each people would be rightly done in the way that pleases those overseers." And see whether he does not, as far as in him lies, plainly wish the Jew living by his own laws not to depart from them, as though he would act unholily if he did; for he says that "it is not holy to abolish what has been customary in each place from the beginning." I would like to ask him, or those who agree with him, in reply to this, who it was that from the beginning allotted the parts of the earth to different overseers, and clearly the land of the Jews and the Jews themselves to the one or ones to whom it fell. Did Zeus, as Celsus might call him, allot the Jewish nation and their land to someone or some beings, and did he wish the one to whom Judaea fell to make such laws among the Jews? Or did this happen against his will? Whichever way he answers, you see that the argument will be hemmed in. And if the parts of the earth were not allotted to their overseers by some one being, then each took a share of the earth by lot, as it happened, without anyone presiding; but this too is absurd, and in some measure does away with the providence of the God over all.
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Summary: Origen asks Celsus who allotted the nations to their overseers: if Zeus, did he approve Jewish law or not? And if no one did, providence is denied.
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.26 (Koetschau 2:26–27; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-26).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.27Koetschau 2:27–28
Πῶς δὲ καὶ κατὰ τίνας ἐπικρατείας διειλημμένα τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς διοικεῖται ὑπὸ τῶν ἐποπτευόντων αὐτὰ, ὁ βουλόμενος διηγησάσθω· ἀπαγγειλάτω δὲ ἡμῖν καὶ πῶς ὀρθῶς πράττεται τὰ παρʼ ἑκάστοις δρώμενα, ὅπῃ τοῖς ἐπόπταις ἐστὶ φίλον, καὶ εἰ ὀρθῶς ἔχουσι φέρʼ εἰπεῖν οἱ Σκυθῶν περὶ ἀναιρέσεως πατέρων νόμοι ἢ οἱ Περσῶν, μὴ κωλύοντες γαμεῖσθαι τοῖς (οἰκείοις) παισὶ τὰς μητέρας μηδὲ ὑπὸ τῶν πατέρων τὰς ἑαυτῶν θυγατέρας. καὶ τί με δεῖ ἐπιλεγόμενον ἀπὸ τῶν πραγματευσαμένων περὶ τῶν ἐν τοῖς διαφόροις ἔθνεσι νόμων προσαπορεῖν, πῶς παρʼ ἑκάστοις ὀρθῶς πράττονται, καθὼς τοῖς ἐπόπταις φίλον, οἱ νόμοι; λεγέτω δʼ ἡμῖν ὁ Κέλσος, πῶς οὐχ ὅσιον παραλύειν νόμους πατρίους περὶ τοῦ γαμεῖν μητέρας καὶ θυγατέρας. ἢ περὶ τοῦ μακάριον εἶναι ἀγχόνῃ τὸν βίον ἐξελθεῖν, ἢ πάντως καθαίρεσθαι τοὺς ἑαυτοὺς παραδιδόντας τῷ πυρὶ καὶ τῇ διὰ πυρὸς ἀπαλλαγῇ τῇ ἀπὸ τοῦ βίου· καὶ πῶς οὐχ ὅσιον παραλύειν νόμους τοὺς φέρʼ εἰπεῖν παρὰ Ταύροις περὶ τοῦ ἱερεῖα τοὺς ξένους προσάγεσθαι τῇ Ἀρτέμιδι, ἢ παρὰ Λιβύων τισὶ περὶ τοῦ καταθύειν τὰ τέκνα τῷ Κρόνῳ. πλὴν ἀκολουθεῖ τῷ Κέλσῳ τὸ μὴ ὅσιον εἶναι Ἰουδαίοις παραλύειν νόμους πατρίους τοὺς περὶ τοῦ μὴ δεῖν ἄλλον τινὰ σέβειν θεὸν παρὰ τὸν τῶν ὅλων δημιουργόν. καὶ ἔσται κατʼ αὐτὸν οὐ φύσει τὸ ὅσιον ἀλλά τινι θέσει καὶ νομίσει θεῖον· ὅσιον γὰρ παρὰ τοῖσδε μὲν σέβειν κροκόδειλον καὶ ἐσθίειν τῶν παρʼ ἄλλοις τι προσκυνουμένων, καὶ ὅσιον ἑτέροις τὸ σέβειν τὸν μόσχον, καὶ παρʼ ἄλλοις τὸν τράγον νομίζειν θεόν. οὕτως δʼ ἔσται (ὁ) αὐτὸς ὅσια μὲν ποιῶν ὡς πρὸς τούσδε τοὺς νόμους, ἀνόσια δὲ ὡς πρὸς ἑτέρους· ὅπερ ἐστὶ πάντων ἀτοπώτατον.
Pōs de kai kata tinas epikrateias dieilēmmena ta merē tēs gēs dioikeitai hypo tōn epopteuontōn auta, ho boulomenos diēgēsasthō; apangeilatō de hēmin kai pōs orthōs prattetai ta parʼ hekastois drōmena, hopę̄ tois epoptais esti philon, kai ei orthōs echousi pherʼ eipein hoi Skythōn peri anaireseōs paterōn nomoi ē hoi Persōn, mē kōlyontes gameisthai tois (oikeiois) paisi tas mēteras mēde hypo tōn paterōn tas heautōn thygateras. kai ti me dei epilegomenon apo tōn pragmateusamenōn peri tōn en tois diaphorois ethnesi nomōn prosaporein, pōs parʼ hekastois orthōs prattontai, kathōs tois epoptais philon, hoi nomoi? legetō dʼ hēmin ho Kelsos, pōs ouch hosion paralyein nomous patrious peri tou gamein mēteras kai thygateras. ē peri tou makarion einai anchonę̄ ton bion exelthein, ē pantōs kathairesthai tous heautous paradidontas tǭ pyri kai tę̄ dia pyros apallagę̄ tę̄ apo tou biou; kai pōs ouch hosion paralyein nomous tous pherʼ eipein para Taurois peri tou hiereia tous xenous prosagesthai tę̄ Artemidi, ē para Libyōn tisi peri tou katathyein ta tekna tǭ Kronǭ. plēn akolouthei tǭ Kelsǭ to mē hosion einai Ioudaiois paralyein nomous patrious tous peri tou mē dein allon tina sebein theon para ton tōn holōn dēmiourgon. kai estai katʼ auton ou physei to hosion alla tini thesei kai nomisei theion; hosion gar para toisde men sebein krokodeilon kai esthiein tōn parʼ allois ti proskynoumenōn, kai hosion heterois to sebein ton moschon, kai parʼ allois ton tragon nomizein theon. houtōs dʼ estai (ho) autos hosia men poiōn hōs pros tousde tous nomous, anosia de hōs pros heterous; hoper esti pantōn atopōtaton.
Let anyone who wishes explain how, and according to what dominions, the parts of the earth are divided and administered by those who oversee them; and let him tell us also how the things done among each people are rightly done, in the way that pleases the overseers, and whether, for example, the laws of the Scythians about killing fathers are right, or those of the Persians, which do not forbid mothers to be married by their own sons nor daughters by their fathers. And why need I, selecting from those who have written about the laws among different nations, raise further difficulties about how the laws among each people are rightly practised as it pleases the overseers? Let Celsus tell us how it is unholy to abolish ancestral laws about marrying mothers and daughters, or about its being blessed to depart from life by hanging, or about those who give themselves up to the fire and to release from life by fire being wholly purified; and how it is unholy to abolish laws, for example, among the Taurians about offering strangers as sacrifices to Artemis, or among some of the Libyans about sacrificing children to Cronus. Yet it follows for Celsus that it is not holy for the Jews to abolish their ancestral laws about not worshipping any other God besides the Creator of the universe. And on his view holiness will be divine not by nature but by some convention and custom: for among some it is holy to revere the crocodile and to eat something that others worship; for others it is holy to revere the calf, and among others to consider the goat a god. So the same person will act holily with regard to these laws and unholily with regard to others; which is the most absurd of all.
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Summary: If every nation's customs are right as Celsus says, then parricide, incest, human sacrifice, and animal worship would all be holy, and holiness would be mere convention, which is absurd.
- The parentheses (οἰκείοις) and (ὁ) are the editor's supplements. The Taurians' sacrifice of strangers to Artemis is told by Herodotus 4.103; Libyan (Carthaginian) child sacrifice to Cronus (Baal) was a common charge.
Extrabiblical texts: Herodotus, Hist. 4.103 (Herodotus, Histories; allusion)
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.27 (Koetschau 2:27–28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-27).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.28Koetschau 2:28–29
Ἀλλʼ εἰκὸς ὅτι φήσουσι πρὸς ταῦτα ὅσιον εἶναι τὸν τὰ πάτρια φυλάττοντα καὶ μηδαμῶς ἀνόσιον, ἐπεὶ μὴ (καὶ) τὰ ἑτέρων οὐ τηρεῖ· πάλιν τε αὖ τὸν νομισθέντα ἀνόσιον εἶναι παρὰ τοῖσδέ τισι μὴ εἶναι ἀνόσιον, ὅταν κατὰ τὰ πάτρια τὰ μὲν ἴδια σέβῃ τὰ δὲ παρὰ τοῖς ἐναντίους ἔχουσι νόμους προσπολεμῇ καὶ καταθοινᾶται. ταῦτα δὲ ὅρα εἰ μὴ πολλὴν ἐμφαίνει τὴν περὶ τοῦ δικαίου καὶ ὁσίου καὶ εὐσεβείας ταραχὴν, οὐ διαρθρουμένης οὐδὲ φύσιν τινὰ ἰδίαν ἐχούσης καὶ εὐσεβεῖς εἶναι χαρακτηριζούσης τοὺς τὰ κατʼ αὐτὴν πράττοντας. εἴπερ οὖν ἡ εὐσέβεια καὶ ἡ ὁσιότης καὶ ἡ δικαιοσύνη τῶν πρός τι ἐστὶν, ὡς τὸ αὐτὸ εἶναι ὅσιον καὶ ἀνόσιον παρὰ τὰς διαφόρους σχέσεις καὶ τοὺς νόμους, ὅρα εἰ μὴ καὶ ἡ σωφροσύνη τῶν πρός τι ἀκολούθως ἔσται καὶ ἡ ἀνδρεία καὶ ἡ φρόνησις καὶ ἡ ἐπιστήμη καὶ αἱ λοιπαὶ ἀρεταί· ὧν οὐδὲν ἂν εἴη ἀτοπώτερον. ἁπλούστερον μὲν οὖν καὶ κοινότερον ἱσταμένοις πρὸς τὰς Κέλσου ἐκκειμένας λέξεις αὐτάρκη τὰ εἰρημένα· ἐπεὶ δὲ νομίζομεν καὶ τῶν ἐξεταστικωτέρων τινὰς ἐντεύξεσθαι τῇδε τῇ γραφῇ, φέρε ὀλίγα τῶν βαθυτέρων παρακινδυνεύοντες ἐκθώμεθα, ἔχοντά τινα μυστικὴν καὶ ἀπόῤῥητον θεωρίαν, περὶ τοῦ ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἄλλα ἄλλοις ἐπόπταις νενεμῆσθαι χωρία τῶν ἐπὶ γῆς· καὶ τῶν κατειλεγμένων ἀτόπων φέρε ὅση δύναμις καθαρὸν παραστήσωμεν τὸν λόγον.
Allʼ eikos hoti phēsousi pros tauta hosion einai ton ta patria phylattonta kai mēdamōs anosion, epei mē (kai) ta heterōn ou tērei; palin te au ton nomisthenta anosion einai para toisde tisi mē einai anosion, hotan kata ta patria ta men idia sebę̄ ta de para tois enantious echousi nomous prospolemę̄ kai katathoinatai. tauta de hora ei mē pollēn emphainei tēn peri tou dikaiou kai hosiou kai eusebeias tarachēn, ou diarthroumenēs oude physin tina idian echousēs kai eusebeis einai charaktērizousēs tous ta katʼ autēn prattontas. eiper oun hē eusebeia kai hē hosiotēs kai hē dikaiosynē tōn pros ti estin, hōs to auto einai hosion kai anosion para tas diaphorous scheseis kai tous nomous, hora ei mē kai hē sōphrosynē tōn pros ti akolouthōs estai kai hē andreia kai hē phronēsis kai hē epistēmē kai hai loipai aretai; hōn ouden an eiē atopōteron. haplousteron men oun kai koinoteron histamenois pros tas Kelsou ekkeimenas lexeis autarkē ta eirēmena; epei de nomizomen kai tōn exetastikōterōn tinas enteuxesthai tę̄de tę̄ graphę̄, phere oliga tōn bathyterōn parakindyneuontes ekthōmetha, echonta tina mystikēn kai aporrhēton theōrian, peri tou ex archēs alla allois epoptais nenemēsthai chōria tōn epi gēs; kai tōn kateilegmenōn atopōn phere hosē dynamis katharon parastēsōmen ton logon.
But perhaps they will say in reply to this that one who keeps his ancestral customs is holy and in no way unholy, since he does not also keep those of others; and again that one thought unholy by certain people is not unholy when, according to his ancestral customs, he reveres his own objects of worship and makes war on, and feasts on, those revered among people with contrary laws. But see whether this does not show great confusion about justice, holiness, and piety, as if piety were not clearly defined, nor had any nature of its own that marks out as pious those who act according to it. If, then, piety, holiness, and justice are relative, so that the same thing is holy and unholy according to different relations and laws, see whether self-control too will not consequently be relative, and courage, and prudence, and knowledge, and the other virtues; than which nothing could be more absurd. For those who take their stand more simply and in common terms against Celsus's passages, what has been said is sufficient. But since we think that some of the more inquiring will also read this work, come, let us venture to set out a few of the deeper matters, which contain a certain mystical and secret contemplation, concerning the allotment from the beginning of different regions of the earth to different overseers; and, as far as we can, let us show that the doctrine is clear of the absurdities listed.
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Summary: If holiness depends only on local custom, all virtues become relative, which is absurd; Origen now turns to a deeper, mystical account of how the nations were allotted to angelic overseers.
- The parenthetical (καὶ) is the editor's supplement.
Topics: Ethics
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.28 (Koetschau 2:28–29; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-28).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.29Koetschau 2:29–31
Δοκεῖ δή μοι παρακηκοέναι τινῶν ὁ Κέλσος περὶ τῆς διανεμήσεως τῶν ἐπὶ γῆς μυστικωτέρων λόγων, ὧν ἐφάπτεται μέν πως καὶ ἡ Ἑλληνικὴ ἱστορία, εἰσαγαγοῦσά τινας τῶν νομιζομένων θεῶν περὶ τῆς Ἀττικῆς πρὸς ἀλλήλους ἡμιλλῆσθαι, ποιοῦσα δὲ παρὰ τοῖς ποιηταῖς τινας τῶν λεγομένων θεῶν ὁμολογεῖν τινας τόπους οἰκειοτέρους αὐτοῖς. καὶ ἡ βαρβαρικὴ δὲ ἱστορία καὶ μάλιστα ἡ Αἰγυπτίων τοιαῦτά τινα ἐμφαίνει περὶ τοῦ μερισμοῦ τῶν τῆς Αἰγύπτου καλουμένων νομῶν, λέγουσα ὅτι ἡ λαχοῦσα τὴν Σάϊν Ἀθηνᾶ ἡ αὐτὴ ἔχει καὶ τὴν Ἀττικήν. Αἰγυπτίων δὲ οἱ λόγιοι μυρία ὅσα τοιαῦτα φήσουσιν, οὐκ οἶδα δʼ εἰ καὶ Ἰουδαίους συμπαραλαμβάνοντες καὶ τὴν χώραν αὐτῶν τῇ πρός τινα διανεμήσει. ἀλλὰ περὶ μὲν τῶν ἔξω τοῦ θείου λόγου λεγομένων εἰς ταῦτα ἅλις ἐπὶ τοῦ παρόντος. φαμὲν δʼ ὅτι ὁ καθʼ ἡμᾶς προφήτης τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ γνήσιος θεράπων αὐτοῦ Μωϋσῆς ἐν τῇ τοῦ Δευτερονομίου ᾠδῇ ἐκτίθεται περὶ τοῦ μερισμοῦ τῶν ἐπὶ γῆς τοιαῦτα λέγων· „ὅτε διεμέριζεν ὁ ὕψιστος ἔθνη, ὡς διέσπειρεν υἱοὺς Ἀδὰμ, ἔστησεν ὅρια ἐθνῶν κατὰ ἀριθμὸν ἀγγέλων θεοῦ, καὶ ἐγενήθη μερὶς κυρίου λαὸς αὐτοῦ Ἰακὼβ, σχοίνισμα κληρονομίας αὐτοῦ Ἰσραήλ.“ τὰ δὲ περὶ τῆς διανεμήσεως τῶν ἐθνῶν ὁ αὐτὸς Μωϋσῆς ἐν τῷ ἐπιγεγραμμένῳ βιβλίῳ Γένεσις ἐν ἱστορίας τρόπῳ φησὶν οὕτως· „καὶ ἦν πᾶσα ἡ γῆ χεῖλος ἓν, καὶ φωνὴ μία πᾶσι. καὶ ἐγένετο ἐν τῷ κινῆσαι αὐτοὺς ἀπʼ ἀνατολῶν εὗρον πεδίον ἐν γῇ Σενναὰρ, καὶ κατῴκησαν ἐκεῖ“· καὶ μετʼ ὀλίγα· „κατέβη, φησὶ, κύριος ἰδεῖν τὴν πόλιν καὶ τὸν πύργον, ὃν ᾠκοδόμησαν οἱ υἱοὶ τῶν ἀνθρώπων. καὶ εἶπε κύριος· ἰδοὺ γένος ἓν καὶ χεῖλος ἓν πάντων· καὶ τοῦτο ἤρξαντο ποιῆσαι, καὶ νῦν οὐκ ἐκλείψει ἀπʼ αὐτῶν πάντα, ὅσα ἂν ἐπιθῶνται ποιεῖν· δεῦτε καὶ καταβάντες συγχέωμεν ἐκεῖ τὴν γλῶσσαν αὐτῶν. ἵνα μὴ ἀκούσωσιν ἕκαστος τὴν φωνὴν τοῦ πλησίον αὐτοῦ. καὶ διέσπειρεν αὐτοὺς κύριος ἐκεῖθεν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον πάσης τῆς γῆς, καὶ ἐπαύσαντο οἰκοδομοῦντες τὴν πόλιν καὶ τὸν πύργον. διὰ τοῦτο ἐκλήθη τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Σύγχυσις, ὅτι ἐκεῖ συνέχεε κύριος ὁ θεὸς τὰ χείλη πάσης τῆς γῆς, κἀκεῖθεν διέσπειρεν αὐτοὺς κύριος ὁ θεὸς ἐπὶ πρόσωπον πάσης τῆς γῆς.“ καὶ ἐν τῇ ἐπιγεγραμμένῃ δὲ Σολομῶντος Σοφίᾳ περὶ τῆς σοφίας καὶ τῶν κατὰ τὴν σύγχυσιν τῶν διαλέκτων, ἐν ᾗ γεγένηται ὁ μερισμὸς τῶν ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς. τοιαῦτα περὶ τῆς σοφίας εἴρηται· „αὕτη καὶ ἐν ὁμονοίᾳ πονηρίας ἐθνῶν συγχυθέντων ἔγνω τὸν δίκαιον, καὶ ἐφύλαξεν αὐτὸν ἄμεμπτον τῷ θεῷ καὶ ἐπὶ τέκνου σπλάγχνοις ἰσχυρὸν ἐφύλαξε.“ πολὺς δʼ ὁ λόγος καὶ μυστικὸς ὁ περὶ τούτων, ᾧ ἁρμόζει τό· „μυστήριον βασιλέως κρύπτειν καλόν“· ἵνα μὴ εἰς τὰς τυχούσας ἀκοὰς ὁ περὶ ψυχῶν οὐκ ἐκ μετενσωματώσεως εἰς σῶμα ἐνδουμένων λόγος ῥιπτῆται, μηδὲ τὰ ἅγια διδῶται „τοῖς κυσὶ, “ μηδʼ οἱ μαργαρῖται παραβάλλωνται χοίροις. ἀσεβὲς γὰρ τὸ τοιοῦτο, προδοσίαν περιέχον τῶν ἀποῤῥήτων τῆς τοῦ θεοῦ σοφίας λογίων, περὶ ἧς καλῶς γέγραπται· „εἰς κακότεχνον ψυχὴν οὐκ εἰσελεύσεται σοφία οὐδὲ κατοικήσει ἐν σώματι κατάχρεῳ ἁμαρτίας.“ ἀρκεῖ δὲ τὰ κεκρυμμένως ὡς ἐν ἱστορίας τρόπῳ εἰρημένα κατὰ τὸν τῆς ἱστορίας παραστῆσαι τρόπον, ἵνʼ οἱ δυνάμενοι ἑαυτοῖς ἐπεξεργάσωνται τὰ κατὰ τὸν τόπον.
Dokei dē moi parakēkoenai tinōn ho Kelsos peri tēs dianemēseōs tōn epi gēs mystikōterōn logōn, hōn ephaptetai men pōs kai hē Hellēnikē historia, eisagagousa tinas tōn nomizomenōn theōn peri tēs Attikēs pros allēlous hēmillēsthai, poiousa de para tois poiētais tinas tōn legomenōn theōn homologein tinas topous oikeioterous autois. kai hē barbarikē de historia kai malista hē Aigyptiōn toiauta tina emphainei peri tou merismou tōn tēs Aigyptou kaloumenōn nomōn, legousa hoti hē lachousa tēn Saïn Athēna hē autē echei kai tēn Attikēn. Aigyptiōn de hoi logioi myria hosa toiauta phēsousin, ouk oida dʼ ei kai Ioudaious symparalambanontes kai tēn chōran autōn tę̄ pros tina dianemēsei. alla peri men tōn exō tou theiou logou legomenōn eis tauta halis epi tou parontos. phamen dʼ hoti ho kathʼ hēmas prophētēs tou theou kai gnēsios therapōn autou Mōÿsēs en tę̄ tou Deuteronomiou ǭdę̄ ektithetai peri tou merismou tōn epi gēs toiauta legōn; „hote diemerizen ho hypsistos ethnē, hōs diespeiren huious Adam, estēsen horia ethnōn kata arithmon angelōn theou, kai egenēthē meris kyriou laos autou Iakōb, schoinisma klēronomias autou Israēl.“ ta de peri tēs dianemēseōs tōn ethnōn ho autos Mōÿsēs en tǭ epigegrammenǭ bibliǭ Genesis en historias tropǭ phēsin houtōs; „kai ēn pasa hē gē cheilos hen, kai phōnē mia pasi. kai egeneto en tǭ kinēsai autous apʼ anatolōn heuron pedion en gę̄ Sennaar, kai katǭkēsan ekei“; kai metʼ oliga; „katebē, phēsi, kyrios idein tēn polin kai ton pyrgon, hon ǭkodomēsan hoi huioi tōn anthrōpōn. kai eipe kyrios; idou genos hen kai cheilos hen pantōn; kai touto ērxanto poiēsai, kai nyn ouk ekleipsei apʼ autōn panta, hosa an epithōntai poiein; deute kai katabantes syncheōmen ekei tēn glōssan autōn. hina mē akousōsin hekastos tēn phōnēn tou plēsion autou. kai diespeiren autous kyrios ekeithen epi prosōpon pasēs tēs gēs, kai epausanto oikodomountes tēn polin kai ton pyrgon. dia touto eklēthē to onoma autou Synchysis, hoti ekei synechee kyrios ho theos ta cheilē pasēs tēs gēs, kakeithen diespeiren autous kyrios ho theos epi prosōpon pasēs tēs gēs.“ kai en tę̄ epigegrammenę̄ de Solomōntos Sophią peri tēs sophias kai tōn kata tēn synchysin tōn dialektōn, en hę̄ gegenētai ho merismos tōn epi tēs gēs. toiauta peri tēs sophias eirētai; „hautē kai en homonoią ponērias ethnōn synchythentōn egnō ton dikaion, kai ephylaxen auton amempton tǭ theǭ kai epi teknou splanchnois ischyron ephylaxe.“ polys dʼ ho logos kai mystikos ho peri toutōn, hǭ harmozei to; „mystērion basileōs kryptein kalon“; hina mē eis tas tychousas akoas ho peri psychōn ouk ek metensōmatōseōs eis sōma endoumenōn logos rhiptētai, mēde ta hagia didōtai „tois kysi, “ mēdʼ hoi margaritai paraballōntai choirois. asebes gar to toiouto, prodosian periechon tōn aporrhētōn tēs tou theou sophias logiōn, peri hēs kalōs gegraptai; „eis kakotechnon psychēn ouk eiseleusetai sophia oude katoikēsei en sōmati katachreǭ hamartias.“ arkei de ta kekrymmenōs hōs en historias tropǭ eirēmena kata ton tēs historias parastēsai tropon, hinʼ hoi dynamenoi heautois epexergasōntai ta kata ton topon.
Celsus seems to me to have misheard certain more mystical accounts of the distribution of things on earth, which Greek history also touches on in a way, when it presents some of those considered gods as contending with one another over Attica, and when in the poets it makes some of the so-called gods acknowledge certain places as more their own. And barbarian history too, especially that of the Egyptians, shows something of this sort about the division of the so-called nomes of Egypt, saying that Athena, to whom Sais fell, is the same who also has Attica. The learned among the Egyptians will say countless things of this kind, though I do not know whether they also include the Jews and their land in the distribution to some being. But about what is said on these matters outside the divine word, enough for the present. We say that Moses, the prophet of God according to us and his genuine servant, sets out in the Song of Deuteronomy the following about the division of things on earth: "When the Most High divided the nations, when he scattered the sons of Adam, he set the boundaries of the nations according to the number of the angels of God; and the Lord's portion became his people Jacob, Israel the lot of his inheritance." And the same Moses, in the book entitled Genesis, speaks of the distribution of the nations in the form of a narrative thus: "And the whole earth was one lip, and there was one speech for all. And it came to pass, as they moved from the east, they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they settled there"; and a little later: "The Lord came down," it says, "to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. And the Lord said: Behold, they are one race and all have one lip; and this they have begun to do, and now nothing that they set out to do will fail them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language there, so that they may not understand each one the speech of his neighbour. And the Lord scattered them from there over the face of all the earth, and they stopped building the city and the tower. Therefore its name was called Confusion, because there the Lord God confused the lips of all the earth, and from there the Lord God scattered them over the face of all the earth." And in the book entitled the Wisdom of Solomon, concerning wisdom and the events at the confusion of languages, at which the division of those on the earth took place, the following is said about wisdom: "She too, when the nations had been confused in their wicked agreement, recognized the righteous man and kept him blameless before God, and kept him strong against his compassion for his child." The account of these things is long and mystical, and to it applies: "It is good to hide the secret of a king," so that the doctrine of souls bound into a body, not by transmigration, may not be thrown to any chance hearers, nor holy things be given "to the dogs," nor pearls cast before swine. For such a thing would be impious, involving betrayal of the secret oracles of God's wisdom, of which it is well written: "Wisdom will not enter a soul that plots evil, nor dwell in a body enslaved to sin." It is enough to present what is said in a hidden way, as in the form of a narrative, according to the manner of the narrative, so that those who are able may work out for themselves the meaning of the passage.
Deut 32:8–9 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 11:1–2 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 11:5–9 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 7:6 (allusion, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: The allotting of lands to gods, half-remembered in Greek and Egyptian lore, is taught truly by Moses: God divided the nations among his angels at Babel but kept Israel as his own portion; the deeper meaning is a mystery not to be exposed.
- The quotations are Deut 32:8–9 (LXX, "angels of God"), Gen 11:1–2, 5–9, Wis 10:5, Tob 12:7, Matt 7:6, and Wis 1:4. The contest over Attica is that of Athena and Poseidon. Origen distances his own doctrine of souls entering bodies from Platonic transmigration.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (repeated word in the digital text): ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, γῆς. → ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς..
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 10:5 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Tob 12:7 (Tobit [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Wis 1:4 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.29 (Koetschau 2:29–31; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-29).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.30Koetschau 2:31–32
Νοείσθωσαν τοίνυν πάντες οἱ ἐπὶ γῆς μιᾷ τινι διαλέκτῳ θείᾳ χρώμενοι, καὶ ὅσον γε συμφωνοῦσι πρὸς ἀλλήλους τηρείσθωσαν ἐν τῇ θείᾳ διαλέκτῳ· καὶ ἔστωσαν ἀκίνητοι „τῶν ἀνατολῶν.“ ἐς ὅσον εἰσὶ τὰ τοῦ φωτὸς καὶ τοῦ ἀπὸ „φωτὸς ἀϊδίου“ ἀπαυγάσματος φρονοῦντες. καὶ οὗτοι, ἐπὰν κινήσωσιν „ἀπὸ τῶν ἀνατολῶν“ ἑαυτοὺς ἀλλότρια „ἀνατολῶν“ φρονοῦντες, εὑρισκέτωσαν „πεδίον ἐν γῇ Σενναὰρ, “ ὅπερ ἑρμηνεύεται ὀδόντων ἐκτιναγμὸς κατὰ σύμβολον τοῦ ἀπολλύναι αὐτοὺς τὰ διʼ ὧν τρέφονται, καὶ κατοικείτωσαν ἐκεῖ. εἶτα τὰ τῆς ὕλης συναγαγεῖν θέλοντες καὶ κολλᾶν τὰ μὴ πεφυκότα κολλᾶσθαι οὐρανῷ, ἵνα διὰ τῶν ὑλικῶν ἐπιβουλεύσωσι τοῖς ἀΰλοις, λεγέτωσαν· „δεῦτε πλινθεύσωμεν πλίνθους καὶ ὀπτήσωμεν αὐτὰς πυρί.“ ὡς οὖν κρατύνοντες καὶ πηγνύντες τὰ πήλινα καὶ ὑλικὰ καὶ τὴν πλίνθον λίθον ποιεῖν θέλοντες καὶ τὸν πηλὸν ἄσφαλτον καὶ διὰ τούτων οἰκοδομεῖν „πόλιν καὶ πύργον, οὗ“ ὅσον ἐπὶ τῇ ὑπολήψει αὐτῶν „ἔσται ἡ κεφαλὴ ἕως τοῦ οὐρανοῦ“ κατὰ τὰ ὑπεραιρόμενα ὑψώματα κατὰ τῆς γνώσεως τοῦ θεοῦ, παραδιδόσθωσαν ἕκαστος κατὰ τὴν ἀναλογίαν τῆς „ἀπὸ ἀνατολῶν“ κινήσεως, ἐπὶ πλεῖον ἢ ἐπʼ ἔλαττον αὐτοῖς γεγενημένης, καὶ κατὰ τὴν ἀναλογίαν τῆς κατασκευῆς τῶν πλίνθων εἰς λίθους καὶ τοῦ πηλοῦ εἰς ἄσφαλτον καὶ τῆς ἐκ τούτων οἰκοδομῆς ἀγγέλοις, ἐπὶ πλεῖον ἢ ἐπʼ ἔλαττον χαλεπωτέροις καὶ τοιοῖσδε ἢ τοιοῖσδε, ἕως τίσωσι δίκας ἐφʼ οἷς τετολμήκασι· καὶ ὑπὸ τῶν ἀγγέλων ἀγέσθωσαν ἕκαστος τῶν ἐμποιησάντων τὴν οἰκείαν ἑαυτοῖς διάλεκτον ἐπὶ τὰ μέρη τῆς γῆς κατὰ τὴν ἑαυτῶν ἀξίαν, οἵδε μὲν ἐπὶ τὴν φέρʼ εἰπεῖν καυσώδη χώραν ἄλλοι δʼ ἐπὶ τὴν διὰ τὸ κατεψῦχθαι κολάζουσαν τοὺς ἐνοικοῦντας, καὶ οἱ μὲν ἐπὶ τὴν δυσγεωργητοτέραν ἄλλοι δὲ ἐπὶ τὴν ἔλαττον τοιαύτην, καὶ οἱ μὲν ἐπὶ τὴν πεπληρωμένην θηρίων οἱ δὲ ἐπὶ τὴν ἔλαττον ἔχουσαν αὐτά.
Noeisthōsan toinyn pantes hoi epi gēs mią tini dialektǭ theią chrōmenoi, kai hoson ge symphōnousi pros allēlous tēreisthōsan en tę̄ theią dialektǭ; kai estōsan akinētoi „tōn anatolōn.“ es hoson eisi ta tou phōtos kai tou apo „phōtos aïdiou“ apaugasmatos phronountes. kai houtoi, epan kinēsōsin „apo tōn anatolōn“ heautous allotria „anatolōn“ phronountes, heurisketōsan „pedion en gę̄ Sennaar, “ hoper hermēneuetai odontōn ektinagmos kata symbolon tou apollynai autous ta diʼ hōn trephontai, kai katoikeitōsan ekei. eita ta tēs hylēs synagagein thelontes kai kollan ta mē pephykota kollasthai ouranǭ, hina dia tōn hylikōn epibouleusōsi tois aÿlois, legetōsan; „deute plintheusōmen plinthous kai optēsōmen autas pyri.“ hōs oun kratynontes kai pēgnyntes ta pēlina kai hylika kai tēn plinthon lithon poiein thelontes kai ton pēlon asphalton kai dia toutōn oikodomein „polin kai pyrgon, hou“ hoson epi tę̄ hypolēpsei autōn „estai hē kephalē heōs tou ouranou“ kata ta hyperairomena hypsōmata kata tēs gnōseōs tou theou, paradidosthōsan hekastos kata tēn analogian tēs „apo anatolōn“ kinēseōs, epi pleion ē epʼ elatton autois gegenēmenēs, kai kata tēn analogian tēs kataskeuēs tōn plinthōn eis lithous kai tou pēlou eis asphalton kai tēs ek toutōn oikodomēs angelois, epi pleion ē epʼ elatton chalepōterois kai toioisde ē toioisde, heōs tisōsi dikas ephʼ hois tetolmēkasi; kai hypo tōn angelōn agesthōsan hekastos tōn empoiēsantōn tēn oikeian heautois dialekton epi ta merē tēs gēs kata tēn heautōn axian, hoide men epi tēn pherʼ eipein kausōdē chōran alloi dʼ epi tēn dia to katepsychthai kolazousan tous enoikountas, kai hoi men epi tēn dysgeōrgētoteran alloi de epi tēn elatton toiautēn, kai hoi men epi tēn peplērōmenēn thēriōn hoi de epi tēn elatton echousan auta.
Let all those on earth, then, be understood as using one divine language, and as long as they are in harmony with one another, let them be kept in the divine language; and let them remain unmoved "from the east," as long as they think the thoughts of the light and of the radiance from "eternal light." And these, when they move themselves "from the east," thinking thoughts foreign to "the east," let them find "a plain in the land of Shinar," which is interpreted "shaking out of teeth," as a symbol of their losing the means by which they are nourished; and let them settle there. Then, wishing to gather together the things of matter and to join to heaven what cannot by nature be joined to it, so as to plot against immaterial things by means of material ones, let them say: "Come, let us make bricks and bake them with fire." So, as they harden and set fast the clay and material things, wishing to make brick into stone and clay into bitumen, and by these to build "a city and a tower whose" (as far as their supposition goes) "top will reach to heaven," according to the lofty things raised up against the knowledge of God, let them each be handed over, in proportion to their movement "from the east," which has happened to a greater or lesser degree, and in proportion to their making bricks into stones and clay into bitumen and building from these, to angels, harsher to a greater or lesser degree, and of this kind or that, until they pay the penalty for what they have dared. And let them be led by the angels, each of whom produced for them their own language, to the parts of the earth according to their deserts: some, for example, to a scorching land, others to one that punishes its inhabitants by its cold, some to one harder to farm and others to one less so, some to one full of wild beasts and others to one with fewer.
Gen 11:2–4 (quotation, high confidence) · 2 Cor 10:5 (allusion, medium confidence)
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Summary: Origen reads Babel as a hidden account of souls that leave the 'east' of divine light, build pridefully with material things, and are handed over, according to their guilt, to angels who assign them languages and lands.
- The allusions are Gen 11:2–4, Wis 7:26 ("radiance of eternal light"), and 2 Cor 10:5. The etymology of Shinar ("shaking out of teeth") is traditional Hebrew-name lore. This allegory of souls' descent is Origen's speculative teaching.
Extrabiblical texts: Wis 7:26 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; allusion)
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.30 (Koetschau 2:31–32; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-30).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
5.31Koetschau 2:32–33
Εἶτα εἴ τις δύναται ὡς ἐν ἱστορίας σχήματι, ἐχούσης μέν τι καὶ καθʼ αὑτὴν ἀληθὲς ἐμφαινούσης δέ τι καὶ ἀπόῤῥητον, ἰδέτω καὶ τοὺς τὴν ἐξ ἀρχῆς διάλεκτον τετηρηκότας, τῷ μὴ κεκινηκέναι „ἀπʼ ἀνατολῶν“ μένοντας ἐν τῇ ἀνατολῇ καὶ τῇ ἀνατολικῇ διαλέκτῳ· καὶ νοείτω τούτους μόνους γεγονέναι μερίδα κυρίου καὶ λαὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν καλούμενον „Ἰακὼβ, “ γεγονέναι δὲ καὶ „σχοίνισμα κληρονομίας αὐτοῦ Ἰσραήλ“· καὶ οὗτοι μόνοι ἐπιστατείσθωσαν ὑπὸ ἄρχοντος, οὐκ ἐπὶ κολάσει παρειληφότος τοὺς ὑπʼ αὐτῷ ὥσπερ οἱ ἄλλοι. βλεπέτω δʼ ὁ δυνάμενος ὡς ἐν ἀνθρώποις ἐν τῇ τούτων πολιτείᾳ τῶν τεταγμένων κατὰ τὴν διαφέρουσαν μερίδα τῷ κυρίῳ γινομένας ἁμαρτίας, πρότερον μὲν ἀνεκτὰς καὶ τοιαύτας, ὡς μὴ πάντῃ ἀξίους εἶναι αὐτοὺς τοῦ ἐγκαταλείπεσθαι, ὕστερον δὲ πλείονας μὲν ἀλλʼ ἔτι ἀνεκτάς· καὶ τοῦτʼ ἐπὶ πλείονα χρόνον νοῶν γινόμενον καὶ ἀεὶ θεραπείαν προσαγομένην καὶ ἐκ διαλειμμάτων τούτους ἐπιστρέφοντας, ὁράτω αὐτοὺς καταλειπομένους κατὰ τὴν ἀναλογίαν τῶν ἁμαρτανομένων τοῖς λαχοῦσι τὰς ἄλλας χώρας, πρότερον μὲν ἐπὶ τὸ ἔλαττον αὐτοὺς κολασθέντας καὶ τίσαντας δίκην, ὡσπερεὶ παιδευθέντας, ἐπανελθεῖν εἰς τὰ οἰκεῖα· ὕστερον δὲ βλεπέτω αὐτοὺς παραδιδομένους χαλεπωτέροις ἄρχουσιν, ὡς ἂν ὀνομάσαιεν αἱ γραφαὶ, Ἀσσυρίοις εἶτα Βαβυλωνίοις. εἶτα προσαγομένων θεραπειῶν ὁράτω τούτους οὐδὲν ἧττον αὔξοντας τὰ ἁμαρτανόμενα καὶ διὰ τοῦτʼ ἐπισπειρομένους ὑπὸ τῶν διαρπαζόντων αὐτοὺς ἀρχόντων τῶν λοιπῶν ἐθνῶν ταῖς ἄλλαις μερίσιν. ὁ δʼ ἄρχων αὐτῶν ἐπίτηδες παροράτω διαρπαζομένους αὐτοὺς ὑπὸ τῶν ἐν τοῖς λοιποῖς ἔθνεσιν ἀρχόντων· ἵνα καὶ αὐτὸς εὐλόγως, ὡσπερεὶ ἑαυτὸν ἐκδικῶν, λαβὼν ἐξουσίαν ἀποσπάσαι τῶν λοιπῶν ἐθνῶν οὓς ἂν δύνηται, τὸ τοιοῦτο ποιήσῃ καὶ νόμους τε αὐτοῖς θῆται καὶ βίον ὑποδείξῃ καθʼ ὃν βιωτέον· ἵνα αὐτοὺς ἀναγάγῃ ἐπὶ τέλος, ἐφʼ ὅπερ ἀνῆγε τοὺς μὴ ἁμαρτάνοντας ἀπὸ τοῦ προτέρου ἔθνους.
Eita ei tis dynatai hōs en historias schēmati, echousēs men ti kai kathʼ hautēn alēthes emphainousēs de ti kai aporrhēton, idetō kai tous tēn ex archēs dialekton tetērēkotas, tǭ mē kekinēkenai „apʼ anatolōn“ menontas en tę̄ anatolę̄ kai tę̄ anatolikę̄ dialektǭ; kai noeitō toutous monous gegonenai merida kyriou kai laon autou ton kaloumenon „Iakōb, “ gegonenai de kai „schoinisma klēronomias autou Israēl“; kai houtoi monoi epistateisthōsan hypo archontos, ouk epi kolasei pareilēphotos tous hypʼ autǭ hōsper hoi alloi. blepetō dʼ ho dynamenos hōs en anthrōpois en tę̄ toutōn politeią tōn tetagmenōn kata tēn diapherousan merida tǭ kyriǭ ginomenas hamartias, proteron men anektas kai toiautas, hōs mē pantę̄ axious einai autous tou enkataleipesthai, hysteron de pleionas men allʼ eti anektas; kai toutʼ epi pleiona chronon noōn ginomenon kai aei therapeian prosagomenēn kai ek dialeimmatōn toutous epistrephontas, horatō autous kataleipomenous kata tēn analogian tōn hamartanomenōn tois lachousi tas allas chōras, proteron men epi to elatton autous kolasthentas kai tisantas dikēn, hōsperei paideuthentas, epanelthein eis ta oikeia; hysteron de blepetō autous paradidomenous chalepōterois archousin, hōs an onomasaien hai graphai, Assyriois eita Babylōniois. eita prosagomenōn therapeiōn horatō toutous ouden hētton auxontas ta hamartanomena kai dia toutʼ epispeiromenous hypo tōn diarpazontōn autous archontōn tōn loipōn ethnōn tais allais merisin. ho dʼ archōn autōn epitēdes paroratō diarpazomenous autous hypo tōn en tois loipois ethnesin archontōn; hina kai autos eulogōs, hōsperei heauton ekdikōn, labōn exousian apospasai tōn loipōn ethnōn hous an dynētai, to toiouto poiēsę̄ kai nomous te autois thētai kai bion hypodeixę̄ kathʼ hon biōteon; hina autous anagagę̄ epi telos, ephʼ hoper anēge tous mē hamartanontas apo tou proterou ethnous.
Then, if anyone can, as in the form of a narrative, which has something true in itself but also indicates something secret, let him see also those who have kept the original language, remaining in the east and in the eastern language because they did not move "from the east"; and let him understand that these alone became the Lord's portion and his people called "Jacob," and became "Israel the lot of his inheritance"; and let these alone be governed by a ruler who did not receive those under him for punishment, as the others did. And let one who is able see, as among human beings, sins arising in the commonwealth of those assigned to the Lord as his distinct portion: at first tolerable, and such that they were not wholly deserving to be forsaken; later more numerous, but still tolerable. And understanding that this went on for a long time, with healing always applied and these people turning back at intervals, let him see them left, in proportion to their sins, to those to whom the other lands fell: at first punished to a lesser degree and paying the penalty, as though disciplined, and returning to their own land; but later let him see them handed over to harsher rulers, as the Scriptures would name them, the Assyrians and then the Babylonians. Then, as healing is applied, let him see them nonetheless increasing their sins, and for this reason scattered by the rulers of the other nations who plunder them among the other portions. And let their ruler deliberately overlook their being plundered by the rulers in the other nations, so that he too, with good reason, as though avenging himself, having received authority to draw away from the other nations whomever he can, may do so, and give them laws and show them a life by which to live, so as to lead them up to the end to which he used to lead those of the former nation who did not sin.
Deut 32:9 (quotation, high confidence)
Notes and citation
Summary: Continuing the allegory, Israel is the people that stayed in the 'east' under the Lord's own care; their growing sins led to exile among other nations, after which their Lord in turn drew people from the nations to himself.
- The allusion is Deut 32:9. The exile under Assyria and Babylon is read as part of the allegory; the ruler who draws in the nations is Christ, as 5.32 makes clear.
Topics: Scripture and canon
Cite (SBL): Origen, Cels. 5.31 (Koetschau 2:32–33; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/5-18/#p-5-31).
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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.