On the Trinity 15.10–15.14

Latin text: Migne, PL 42 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 3 (1887).

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Chapter 15

15.10PL 42:1031–1032

Sed nunc de iis loquamur quæ nota cogitamus, ct habemus in notitia etiam si DOn cogitemus, sive ad contemplati­ vam sciendam pertineant, quam proprie sapientiam2, sive ad activam, quam proprie scientiam nuncupandam esse disserui. Simu! cnim utrumque mentis est unius, et imago Dei una. Cum,CTO de inferiore dis­ tinctius et scorsum aghur, tunc uon est vocanda nnago Dei, quamvis et tunc in ea nonnulla reperiatur similitudo illius Trinitatis; quod in tertio decimo vo< luminc ostendimus (Capp. t, 20). Nunc ergo simul de universa scientia hominis loquimur, in qua nobis nota sunt quæcumque sunt no:a: quæ utique vcra sun!, alloquin nota non essent. Nemo cnim falsa novi!, nisi cum falsa esse novit: quod si novit, vcru!!i novit; verum est enim quod ilia falsa sint. De his I ergo nunc disserhnus quæ noLa cogitamus, et nota sunt nobis etiam si non cogitentur a nobis. Sed certe si ea dicere vcHinus, nis! cogitata non possumus. Nam ctsi verba non sonent, in corde suo dicit utique qui cogitat. Unde illud est in libro Sapientiae: Dixerunt apud se cogitantes Mon recte (Sap. II, i). Exposuit enim quid sit, Dixerunt apud se, cum addidit, cogi­ tantes. Huic simile est in Evangelio, quod quidam Scriba: cum audissent a Domino dictum paralytico; Confide, /!/<, remittuntut tibi peccata tua; dixerunt intra se, Hic blasphemat. Quid est enim, dixerum in­ tra se, nisi cogitando? Denique sequitur, Et cum vidisset Jesus cogitationes eorum, dixit; Utquid cogi­ tatis mala in cordibus vestris (Matth.!x, 2-4)? Sic Matthæus. Lucas autem boc idem ita narrat: Cæpe­ runt cogitare Scribæ et Pharisæi, dicentes: Quis esc hic qui loquitur blasphemias? Quis potest dimittere peccata, nisi solu. Deus? Ut cognovit autem cogitationes eorum Jesus, respondens dixit ad illos: Quid cogitatis ill cordibus vestris (Luc. v, it, 22)? Quale est in libro Sapientiae, Dixerunt cogitantes; tale hic est, Cogitave­ runt dicentes. Et illic enim et hic ostenditur, intra se atquc in corde suo dicere, id est, cogitando dicere. Dixerunt quippe intra se, ct dictum est cis, Quid co­ gitatis? Et de ilIo divite cujus uberes fructus ager attulit, ait ipse Dominus, Et cogitabat intra se, dicens (Id. XII, i7). Quædam ergo cogitationes locutiones sum cordis, ubi et os esse Dominus ostendit, cum ait: Non quod intrat in oa coinquinat hominem; sed quod procedit ex ore, hoc coinquinat hominem. Una sententia duo quædam hominis ora complexus est, unum eor­ pons, alterum cordis. Nam utique unde i!!! hominem putavcrant inquinari, in os intrat corporis? unde autcm Dominus dixit inquinari hominem, de cordis ore precedit. Ita quippe exposuit ipse quod dixerat. Nam paulo post de hac re discipulis suis: Adhuc et M<, inquit, sine intellectu estis? Non intelligitis, quia omne quod,in os intrat, in ventrem vadit, et in secessum emittitur? Hic certe apertissime demonstravit os, corporis. At in co quod sequitur os <'ord:s ostendens, t Qua autem, inquit; procedunt de orc, de corde excunt, et ea coinquinant hominem. De corde enim exeunt cogi­ tationes malæ, etc. Quid hac ex­ positione lucidius? Nec tamen quia dicimus locutio. nes cordis esse cogitationes, ideo non sunt euam visiones exortæ de notitiae v!sionibu3, quando veræ sunt. Foris enim cum per corpus hæc flunt, aliud est locutio, aliud visio: intus autem cum cogitamus, utrumque unum est. Sicut auditio et v!Sio duo quædam sunt inter se distantia in sensibus corporis, in animo autem non est aliud atqne aliud videre et audire: ac per hoc cuin locutio foris non vidcatur, sed potius audiatur, locutiones tamen interiores, hor est, cog!­ tationes visas dixit a Doinino sanctum Evangelium, non auditas: Dixerunt, inquit, intra ac, Hic blasphe­ mat; deinde suhjunxit, Et cum vidisset Jesus cogita­ tiones eorum. Vidit ergo quæ dixerunt. Vidit ennn co­ gitaHonc sua cogitationes eorum, quas illi soli se putabant videre. Quisquis igitur potest intelligere verbum, non solum antequam sonet, verum etiam antequam sono­ rum ejns imagines cogitatione volvantur: hoc enim est quod ad nullam pertinet linguam, carum scilicet quæ linguae appellantur gentium, quarum nostra latina est: quisquis, inquam, hoc intelligere potest, jam potest videre per hoc speculum atque in hoc æni­ gmate aliquam Verbi illius similitudinem, de quodi­ ctum est, In principio craf Verbum, et Verbum crat apud Deum, et Deu, erat Verbum (Joan. I, i). Nccesse est enim cum verum loquimur, idest, quod scimus loquimur, ex ipsa scientia quam memoria tenemus, nascatur verbum quod ejusmodi sit omnino, cujus­ modi est ilia scientia de qua nascitur. Formata quippe cogitatio ab ea re quam scimus, verbum est quod in. corde dicimus: quod nec græcum est, nec latinum, nec linguae alicujus alterius; sed cum id opus est in corum quibus loquimur perferre notitiam, aliqnod signum quo significetur assumitnr. Et plerumque sonus, aliquando etiam nutus, ille auribus, ille oculis exhibetur, ut per signa corporalia etiam corporis sensibus verbum quod mentc gerimus innotescat. Nam et innuere quid est, nisi quodam modo visibili­ ter dicere? Est in Scripturis sanctis hujus sententiæ testimonium; nam in Evangelio secundum Joannem ita legitur: Amen, amen dico vobis, quia unus ex vobis tradet me. Aspiciebant ergo ad invicem discipuli, hæsi­ tantes de quo diceret. Erat ergo unus ex discipulis ejus. recumbens in sinu Jesu, quem diligebat Jesus: innuit ergo huic Simon Petrus, et dicit ei, Qui. est de quo dicit (Id. XIIJ, 21-24)? Ecce innuendo dixit, quod so­ nando dicere non audebat. Sed haec atque hujusmodi signa corporalia sive auribus sive oculis præsentibus quibus loquimur exhibemus: inventæ sunt autem litteræ, per quas possemus et cum absentibus collo­ qui: sed ista signa sunt vocum, cum ipsæ voces in sermone nostro earum quas cogitamus signa sint rerum.

But now let us speak of those things which we think of as known, and which we have in our knowledge even when we are not thinking of them, whether they belong to the contemplative knowledge, which I have argued is properly to be called wisdom, or to the active, which is properly to be called knowledge. For both together belong to the one mind and are one image of God. But when the lower is treated more distinctly and separately, then it is not to be called the image of God, although even then some likeness of that Trinity is found in it, as we showed in the thirteenth volume. Now, then, we are speaking of the whole of man's knowledge together, in which whatever things are known to us are known; and they are certainly true, otherwise they would not be known. For no one knows false things except when he knows them to be false; and if he knows this, he knows something true, for it is true that those things are false. We are now discussing, then, the things we think of as known, and which are known to us even when they are not being thought of by us. But certainly, if we wished to say them, we could not do so without thinking them. For even if no words sound, he who thinks certainly speaks in his heart. Hence the passage in the book of Wisdom: “They said among themselves, thinking not rightly.” For it explained what “they said among themselves” means when it added “thinking.” Similar to this is the passage in the Gospel where certain scribes, having heard the Lord say to the paralytic, “Take heart, son, your sins are forgiven you,” said within themselves, “This man blasphemes.” For what is “they said within themselves” but “by thinking”? Then follows: “And when Jesus saw their thoughts, he said, Why do you think evil in your hearts?” So Matthew. But Luke tells the same thing thus: “The scribes and Pharisees began to think, saying, Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone? But when Jesus knew their thoughts, he answered and said to them, What are you thinking in your hearts?” What in the book of Wisdom is “they said, thinking,” here is “they thought, saying.” For both there and here it is shown that to speak within oneself and in one's heart is to speak by thinking. For they said within themselves, and it was said to them, “What are you thinking?” And of that rich man whose field brought forth abundant crops the Lord himself says, “And he thought within himself, saying.”

Some thoughts, then, are speech of the heart, where the Lord shows there is also a mouth, when he says: “Not what enters into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.” In one sentence he included two mouths of man, one of the body, the other of the heart. For that by which they had thought a man defiled enters the mouth of the body; but that by which the Lord said a man is defiled comes out of the mouth of the heart. So indeed he himself explained what he had said. For a little later he says of this to his disciples: “Are you also still without understanding? Do you not understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the belly and is cast out into the drain?” Here he certainly showed most plainly the mouth of the body. But in what follows, showing the mouth of the heart, he says: “But the things that come out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and these defile a man. For out of the heart come evil thoughts,” and so on. What is clearer than this explanation? And yet, though we say that thoughts are speech of the heart, they are not on that account not also sights, arising from the sights of knowledge, when they are true. For outwardly, when these things happen through the body, speech is one thing and sight another; but inwardly, when we think, both are one. Just as hearing and sight are two things differing from each other in the bodily senses, but in the mind it is not one thing to see and another to hear; and therefore, though speech outwardly is not seen but rather heard, yet the holy Gospel says that inner speech, that is, thoughts, were seen by the Lord, not heard: “They said within themselves, This man blasphemes”; then it added, “And when Jesus saw their thoughts.” He saw, then, what they said. For by his own thought he saw their thoughts, which they supposed they alone saw.

Whoever, then, can understand a word not only before it sounds but even before the images of its sounds are turned over in thought (for this is what belongs to no language, that is, to none of those called the languages of the nations, of which our Latin is one): whoever, I say, can understand this can already see through this mirror and in this enigma some likeness of that Word of which it was said, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” For necessarily, when we speak what is true, that is, speak what we know, from the very knowledge which we hold in memory a word is born that is wholly of the same kind as the knowledge from which it is born. For the thought formed from the thing we know is the word which we speak in the heart, which is neither Greek nor Latin nor of any other language; but when it is necessary to convey it to the knowledge of those to whom we speak, some sign is taken up by which it is signified. And usually a sound, sometimes also a nod, is shown, the one to the ears, the other to the eyes, so that by bodily signs the word which we bear in the mind may become known to the bodily senses too. For what is nodding but speaking visibly, in a certain way? There is testimony to this in the holy Scriptures; for in the Gospel according to John we read: “Truly, truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me. The disciples then looked at one another, uncertain of whom he spoke. Now one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved, was reclining in Jesus' bosom; Simon Peter therefore nodded to him and said to him, Who is it of whom he speaks?” See, by nodding he said what he did not dare to say aloud. But these and similar bodily signs we present to the ears or eyes of those present to whom we speak; and letters were invented through which we might converse even with the absent; but these are signs of spoken words, while spoken words themselves in our speech are signs of the things we think.

Matt 9:2 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 9:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 9:4 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 5:21 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 5:22 (quotation, high confidence) · Luke 12:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:11 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:16 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:17 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 15:19 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:21 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:22 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:23 (quotation, high confidence) · John 13:24 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Thought is the speech of the heart, as the Gospels show, and the inner word, prior to any language, offers some likeness of the Word who was with God.

  • Migne's chapter summary at the head of the chapter is omitted, and a section number (“19.”) that leaked into the digital text is removed. Sources: Wis 2:1; Matt 9:2–4; Luke 5:21–22; Luke 12:17; Matt 15:11, 16–19; John 1:1; John 13:21–24.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summary, not Augustine's text; leaked section number): De verbo mentis, in quo tanquam speculo et ænigmate videmus Verbum Dei. → ; i9. Quisquis → Quisquis.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 2:1 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 15.10 (PL 42:1031–1032; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/15-10/#p-15-10). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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15.11PL 42:1032–1033

Proinde verbum quod roris sonat, signum eat verbi qnod intus lucet, cui magis verbi contpetit nomen. Nam illud quod preciertur carnis ore, v<.i verbi est: verbumque et ipsum dici. tur, propter illud a quo ut foris apporcret assumptum est.!ta cnim verbum nostrum vox quodam modo corporis fit, assumendo cam in qua manifestetur sen­ sibus hominum; sicut Verbum De! caro factum est, assumendo eam tu qua et ipsum manifestaretur sen. sibus hominum. Et sicut verbum nostrum fit vox, nec mutatur in vocem; ita Verbum Dei caro quidefn factum est, sed absit ut mutarctur in carnem. Assu­ mendo quippe illam, non in cam se consumendo, ct hoc nostrum vox fit, et illud coro factum cst. Qnu­ propter quicumque cupit ad qualemcumque similitu­ dinem Verbi Dei, quamvis per multa dissimilem, pervenire, non intucaturverbum nostrutn quod sonat in auribus, nee quando voce profertur, nec quando silendo cogitatur. Omnium namque sonantium verba linguarum etiam in silentio cogitantur, et carmina percurruntur animo, tacente ore corporis: nee solum numeri syllabarum, verum etiam modi cantilenarum, cum sint corporales, et ad cum, qui vocatur auditus, sensum corporis pertinentes, per incorporeas quasdam imagines suas praesto sunt cogitantibus, eHacitc cun­ cta ista volventibus. Sed transeunda sum hæc, m.nt illud perveniatur hominis verbum, per cujus qualem­ cumque similitudinem sicut in ænigmate videatur utcumque DciVerbum: non illud quod factum est ad ilium vel illum prophetam, et de quo dictum csf, Verbum autem Dei crescebat et multiplicabatur ( Act. VI, 7 ); et de quo iterum dictum est, Igitur fides ex auditu, auditus autem per verbum Christi; et iterum, Cum accepissetis a nobis verbum auditus Dei, accepistis non ut verbum hominum, sed sicuti est vere verbum Dei (I Thess. a, i3). Et innumerabilia simili­ ter in Scripturis dicuntur de Dei verbo, quod in sonis multarum diversarumque linguarum pcr corda ct ora disseminatur bumana. Meo autem verbum Dci dici­ tur, quia doctrina divina traditur, non humana. Sed illud Verbum Dei quærimus qualitercumque per hanc similitudinem nunc videre, de quo dictum est, Deus erat Verbum; de quo dictum est, Omnia per ipsum facta sunt; de quo dictam est, Verbum caro factum est (Joan. I, i, 5, i4); de quo dictum est, Fons sapien­ tiæ Verbum Dei in excelsis. Perveniendum est ergo ad illud verbum hominis, ad verbum rationatis animantis, ad verbum non de Dco naLr, scd a Deo iactae imaginis Dei, quod neque prolativum est in sono, neque cogitativum in similitudine soni, quod alicujus linguæ esse necesse sit, sed quod onnna qui. bus significatur signa praecedit, et gignitur de scien­ tia quæ manet in animo, quando cadem scientia intus dicitur, sicuti est. Simillima est eni:n visio cogitatio­ nis, visioni scientiae. Nam quando per sonum dicitur, vel pcr aliquod corporale signum, non dicitur sicuti est, sed sicut potest videri audirive per corpus. Quando ergo quod in notitia esi, hoc est in verbo, tunc est verum verbum, et veritas, qualis exspectatur ab homine, ut quod est in ista, hoc sit et in illo; quod non est in ista, non sit et in illo: hic agnosci­ tur, Est, est; Non, non ( Matth. v, 57 ). Sic accedM. quantum potest, ista similitudo imaginis factæ ad illam similitudinem imaginisnata;, qua Deus Filius Patri per omnia substantialiter similis prædicatur. Animadvertenda est in hoc ænigmate etiam ista Verbi Dei similitudo, quod sicut de illo Verbo dictum est, Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, ubi Deus per uni­ genitum Verbum snum prædicatur universa fecisse; ita hominis opera nulla sunt, qum non prins dicantur in corde: unde scriptum est, Initium omnis operis verbum. Sed etiam hic cum verum verbum cst, tunc est initium bon! operis. Verum autem Ycrbum est, cum je scicntia bene opcrandi gignitur, ut etiam ibi servetur, Est, est; Non, non: ut si est in ea scicntia qua vivendum est, sit et in verbo per quod operandum est; si non, non: alio­ quin mendacium erit verbum tale, non vcritas; et inde peccatum, non opus rectum. Est et hæc in ista similitudine verbi nostr! similitudo Verbi Dei, quia potest esse verbum nostrum quod non sequatur opus; opus autem esse non potest, nisi præcedat verbum: sicut Verbum Dei potuit esse nulla existente creatura; creatura vero nulla esse posset, nisi per ipsum per quod facIa sunt omnia. Ideoque non Deus Pater, non S;)H Hus s:mctus, non ipsa Trinitas, sed solus Filius, quod est Verbum Dei, caro factum est; quann is Trinitate faciente: ut scqucnte atquc imitante verbo nostro cjus exemplum, recte viveremus, hoc est, nul.. lum habentes in verbi nostri vel contemplatione vel operatione mendacium. Verum hæc hujus imaginis est quandoque futura perfectio. Ad hanc consequen­ dam nos erudit magister bonus fide christiana picta­ tisque doctrina, ut revelata facie a Legis vclarnine quod cst U!nbra futurorum, gloriam Domini speculan­ tes, per speculum scilicet intuentes, ill eamdem imagi­ nem transformemur de gloria in gloriam tanquam a Domini Spiritu (II Cor. II!, i8), secundum superiorem de his verbis disputationem. Cum ergo hac transformatione ad perfectum fucrit hæc imago renovata, similes Ueo erimus, quo­ niam videbimus cum, non per speculum, sed sicuti est: quod dicit apostulus Paulus, facie ad faciem (I Cor. XIII, i2). Nunc vero in hoc speculo, in hoc ænigmate, in hac qualicumque similitudine, quanta sit ctiam dissimHitudo, quis potest explicare? Atringam tamen aliqua, ut valeo, quibus id possit ad­ verti.

Accordingly, the word that sounds outside is a sign of the word that shines within, to which the name of word belongs more truly. For what is uttered by the mouth of flesh is the voice of the word; and it too is called a word, because of that by which it was taken up so as to appear outwardly. For thus our word becomes in a certain way a bodily voice, by taking up that in which it may be manifested to the senses of men, as the Word of God became flesh by taking up that in which he too might be manifested to the senses of men. And as our word becomes voice and is not changed into voice, so the Word of God became flesh, but far be it that he should be changed into flesh. For it is by taking it up, not by being consumed into it, that both ours becomes voice and that Word became flesh. Therefore whoever desires to arrive at some kind of likeness of the Word of God, though unlike in many respects, should not look at our word that sounds in the ears, either when it is uttered by the voice or when it is thought in silence. For the words of all spoken languages are thought in silence too, and songs are run through in the mind while the mouth of the body is silent; and not only the measures of syllables but also the melodies of songs, though they are bodily and belong to the bodily sense called hearing, are at hand, through certain incorporeal images of their own, to those who think of them and silently turn all these things over. But these must be passed over so that we may arrive at that word of man through whose likeness, of whatever kind, the Word of God may be seen after a fashion, as in an enigma: not that word which came to this or that prophet, and of which it was said, “But the word of God grew and multiplied”; and of which it was said again, “So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ”; and again, “When you received from us the word of the hearing of God, you received it not as the word of men, but as it truly is, the word of God.” And countless similar things are said in the Scriptures of the word of God, which in the sounds of many different languages is spread through human hearts and mouths. But it is called the word of God because divine teaching is handed down, not human. But we are seeking now to see, in whatever way, through this likeness, that Word of God of which it was said, “The Word was God”; of which it was said, “All things were made through him”; of which it was said, “The Word became flesh”; of which it was said, “The fountain of wisdom is the Word of God on high.” We must arrive, then, at that word of man, the word of a rational living being, the word of the image of God, not born of God but made by God, which is neither uttered in sound nor thought in the likeness of sound, such as must belong to some language, but which precedes all the signs by which it is signified, and is begotten from the knowledge that abides in the mind, when that same knowledge is spoken inwardly just as it is. For the sight of thought is most like the sight of knowledge. For when it is spoken through sound or through some bodily sign, it is not spoken as it is, but as it can be seen or heard through the body. When, therefore, what is in the knowledge is in the word, then it is a true word, and truth such as is expected from man: that what is in the knowledge is also in the word, and what is not in the knowledge is not in the word either. Here is recognized: “Yes, yes; no, no.” Thus this likeness of the made image approaches, as far as it can, that likeness of the born image, by which God the Son is declared to be like the Father in all things in substance.

In this enigma this likeness of the Word of God must also be noticed: as of that Word it was said, “All things were made through him,” where God is declared to have made all things through his only-begotten Word, so there are no works of man that are not first spoken in the heart; whence it is written, “The beginning of every work is a word.” But here too, it is when the word is true that it is the beginning of a good work. And a word is true when it is begotten from the knowledge of working well, so that there too “Yes, yes; no, no” may be kept: if it is so in the knowledge by which one must live, let it be so in the word through which one must act; if not, not. Otherwise such a word will be a lie, not truth, and thence will come sin, not right work. There is this likeness of the Word of God also in this likeness of our word: that there can be a word of ours which no work follows, but there can be no work unless a word precedes, just as the Word of God could have existed with no creature existing, but no creature could exist except through him through whom all things were made. And therefore not God the Father, not the Holy Spirit, not the Trinity itself, but the Son alone, who is the Word of God, became flesh, though the Trinity brought it about: so that by our word following and imitating his example we might live rightly, that is, having no lie in either the contemplation or the working of our word. But this is the perfection of this image that is to be at some future time. To attain it the good teacher instructs us by the Christian faith and the teaching of godliness, so that with face unveiled from the veil of the Law, which is the shadow of things to come, beholding the glory of the Lord, that is, looking through a mirror, we may be transformed into the same image from glory to glory as by the Spirit of the Lord, according to the earlier discussion of these words.

When, then, by this transformation this image has been renewed to perfection, we shall be like God, because we shall see him, not through a mirror, but as he is, which the apostle Paul calls “face to face.” But now, in this mirror, in this enigma, in this likeness of whatever kind, who can explain how great the unlikeness also is? Yet I will touch on some points, as I am able, by which it may be noticed.

John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · Acts 6:7 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 10:17 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Thess 2:13 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:1 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:3 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 5:37 (quotation, high confidence) · Heb 10:1 (allusion, medium confidence) · Col 2:17 (allusion, medium confidence) · 2 Cor 3:18 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 John 3:2 (allusion, high confidence) · 1 Cor 13:12 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The inner word, not the spoken word, resembles the Word of God: as our word takes up voice without being changed into it, so the Word took flesh without being changed, and as works begin from a word, all things were made through the Word.

  • Migne's two chapter summaries at the head of the chapter are omitted. Sources: John 1:14; Acts 6:7; Rom 10:17; 1 Thess 2:13; John 1:1, 3, 14; Sir 1:5 (a verse found in the Latin and some Greek manuscripts); Matt 5:37; Sir 37:16 (Vulgate 37:20); Col 2:17 / Heb 10:1; 2 Cor 3:18; 1 John 3:2; 1 Cor 13:12. “Only-begotten Word” and “not the Trinity itself, but the Son alone ... became flesh, though the Trinity brought it about” are translated as written.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summaries, not Augustine's text): Verbi divini similitudo qualis­ cumque in verbo nostro non exteriore ac sensibiii, sed in interiore ac mentali quærenda. Dissimilitudo quam ma­ rima inter verbum ac scientiam nostram et Verbum scientiamque divinam. → .

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 1:5 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Sir 37:16 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 15.11 (PL 42:1032–1033; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/15-10/#p-15-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation in NPNF¹ 3 (1887).

15.12PL 42:1033–1034

Primo ipsa scientia, de qua veraciter cogitatio nostra formatur, quando quae scimus loquimur, qualis aut quanta po­ tes! honuui provenire, quamlibet peritissimo atque doctissimo? Exceptis enim quae in animum veniunt a sensibus cor pons, in quibus tam multa aliter suut quam vidcmur, ut corum verisimilitudine nitnium constipatus, sanus sibi esse videatur qui insanit; unde Academica philosophia sic invaluit, ut de omnibus du­ bitans multo miserius insaniret: his ergo exceptis quæ a corporis sensibus in animum veniunt, quantum rerum remanet quod ita sciamus, sicut nos vivcre scin)us? in quo prorsus non metuimus, ne aliqua verisimilitudine forte fallamur, quoniam certum est etiam cum qui fallitur vivere; nec in eis visis hoC fra­ betur',qua; objiciuntur extrinsecus, ut in eo sic Calla­ tur oculus, quemadmodum fallitur cum In aqua remus videtur infractus, et navigantibus turres moveri, et alia sexcenta qua? aliter sunt quam videntur; quia nec per. oculum carnis hoc cernitur. Intima scientia est qua nos Yhcre scimus, ubi ne illud quidem Academicus dice­ re poteas: Fortasse dormis, et nescis, et in somnis vides. Visa quippe somni:'ntium simillima esse visis vigilatium quis ignorat? Sedqm certus est de vitæ sua3 scicntia, non in ca dicit, Scio me vigi!arc; sed, Scio me vivere: sive ergo dormiat, sive vigilet, vivit. Nee in ea scicn!ia per somnia falli potest; qnia et dormire et in somnis videre, viventis est. Nec illud potest Aca­ demicus adversus istam scientiam dicere. Furis Cor. tassis et nescis; quia sanorum visis simillima sunt etiam visa furentium: sed qui furit vivit, Nec con­ tra Academicos dicit, Scio me non furere; sed, Scio me vivere. Nunquam ergo falli nec mentiri potest, qui se vivere dixerit scire. Mille itaque Calla­ cium visorum genera objiciantur ei qui dicit, Scio me vivere; nihil horum timebit, quando et qui falli. tur vivit. Sed si talia sola pertinent ad humanam scientiam, perpauca sunt; nisi quia in unoquoque genere ita multiplicantur, ut non solum pauca non sint, verum etiam reperiantur per infinitum nume­ rum tendere. Qui enim dicit., Scio me vivere, unum aliquid scire se dicit: proinde si dicat, Scio me scire me vivere; duo sunt jam; hoc vcro quad scit hæc duo, tertium scire est: sic potest addere et quar­ tum, et quintum, et innumcrabitia,si sufliciat. Sed quia innumcrabtiem numerum vel comprehendere singula addendo, rel dicere innumerabiliter non potest, hoc ipsum certissime comprehendit ac dicit, et,.crum hoc esse, et tam innumerabile, ut vere cjus infinitum numerum non possit comprehendere acd!< cere. Hoc ct in voluntate certa similiter adverti potest. Quis est enhn cui non impudenter respondeatur, Forte falleris, dicenti, Volo beatus CaSe? Et si dicat, Scio me boc aelle, et hoc me scire scio; jam his duo­ bus et tertium potest addere, quod hæc duo sciat; et quartum, qnod hæc duo scire sc scia!, et similiter hi infinitum numerum pergere. Item si quispiam dicat, Errare nob; nonne sive erret s!vc non crre!, er< rare tamen eum nolle verum crit? Quis est qui huic non impudentissime dicat, Forsitan falleris? cum profecto ubicumque fallatur, falli se tamen nolle non fallitur. Et si hoc scire se dicat, addit quantum vult rerum numerum cognitarum, et numerum esse perspicit infinitum. Qui min dicit, Nolo me falli et hoc Ine nolle scio, et hoc Ine scire scio; jam ct si non commoda elocutione, potest hinc infinHum numerum ostendere: ct alia reperiuntur, quæ adversus Acade­ micos valcant, qui nihil ab homine sciri posse con­ tendunt. Sed modus adhibendus est, præsertim quia )n opere isto non hoc suscepimus. Sunt inde libri tres nostri, primo nostra; conversionis tempore con... scripti, quos qui potuerit et voluerit legere lectos­ que intellexerit, nihi! cum profecto quæ ab eis contra perceptionem veritatis argumenta multa inventa sunt, permovebunt. Cum enim duo sint genera rcru!n quæ sciuntur, unum earum quæ per sensus corporis percipit animus, alterum carum quæ pcr se ip;nm: multa illi philosophi garrierunt contra. corporis sensus::nimi autem quasdam firmissimas pcr se ipsum per­ ceptiones rerum vcrarn!!!, quale illud cst qnod dix. Scio me vivcn', nequaquam in dubium vocare potne­ runt. Sed absit a nobis ut ea qu.c per Mn-;us cor­ poris didicimus, vera esse dubitemus: per eos quip­ pc didicimus cælum et terram, ct ea qni in cis pota sunt nobis, quantum ille qni et nos et ipsa con­ didit, innotessere nobis voluit. Absit etiam ut scire nos negemus, qna: testimonio didicimus aliorum: n:ioquin esse nescimus Oceanum; nescimus esse tcr­ t as atque urbes, quas celeberrima fama commendat; nescimus fuisse homines et opera corum, qnT histo­ rica lectione didicimus; nescimus quae quotidie unde­ cumque nuntiantur, et indiciis consonis contestanH­ busque ' firmantur; postremo nescimus in quibus!o < is, vc! cx quibus hominibus fuerimus exorti; qnia hæc omnia testimoniis credidimus aliorum. Quod si absurdissimum cst dicerc: non solum nostrorum, ve­ rnm cHam et alienorum corporum sensus plurimum addidisse nostræ scientiæ confitendum est. Hæc igitur omnia, et quæ per se ipsum, et qux per sensus sui corporis, et quæ testimoniis alio­ rum percepta scit animus humanus, thesauro memo­ riæ condita tenet, ex quibus gignitur verbum verum,. quando qnod scimus loquimur, sed verbum ante om­ nero sonum, ante omnem cogitationem soni. Tunc enim est verbum simillimum rei notæ, de qua gigni­ tur et unago ejus, quoniam dc visione scientiæ visio cogitationis exoritur, quod est verbum linguæ nullius, verbum vcrum de re vera, nibil de suo habens, sed totum de illa scientia de qua nascitur. Nee interest quando id didicerit, qui qnod scit loquitur; aliquando.'nim statim ut dasii, hoc dicit; dum tamen verbum sit verum, id cst, de notis rebus exortum.

First, the very knowledge from which our thought is truly formed when we speak what we know: of what kind or how great can it come to be in a man, however skilled and learned? For apart from what comes into the mind from the bodily senses, in which so many things are otherwise than they seem that one who is mad, overwhelmed by their likeness to truth, seems to himself sane (whence the Academic philosophy grew so strong that, doubting everything, it was far more wretchedly mad); apart, then, from the things that come into the mind from the bodily senses, how much remains that we know as we know that we live? In this we have no fear at all of being deceived by some likeness to truth, since it is certain that even one who is deceived lives; nor is it counted among those sights presented from outside, so that the eye is deceived in it as it is deceived when an oar appears broken in water, and towers seem to move to those sailing past, and six hundred other things that are otherwise than they seem; for this is not discerned through the eye of the flesh. The knowledge by which we know that we live is innermost, where not even the Academic can say: “Perhaps you are asleep and do not know it, and see in dreams.” For who does not know that the sights of dreamers are very like those of the waking? But he who is certain of the knowledge of his own life does not say in it, “I know that I am awake,” but, “I know that I live”; whether, then, he sleeps or wakes, he lives. Nor can he be deceived in that knowledge by dreams, because both to sleep and to see in dreams belong to one who lives. Nor can the Academic say against this knowledge, “Perhaps you are mad and do not know it,” because the sights of the mad are very like those of the sane; but he who is mad lives. Nor does he say in reply to the Academics, “I know that I am not mad,” but, “I know that I live.” He, then, who says he knows that he lives can never be deceived or lie. So let a thousand kinds of deceptive sights be set before him who says, “I know that I live”; he will fear none of them, since even he who is deceived lives. But if such things alone belong to human knowledge, they are very few; except that in each kind they are so multiplied that not only are they not few, but they are found to extend to an infinite number. For he who says, “I know that I live,” says he knows one thing; then if he says, “I know that I know that I live,” there are already two; and that he knows these two is a third knowing; so he can add a fourth and a fifth and countless more, if he has the stamina. But because he cannot comprehend an innumerable number by adding single items, nor say anything innumerable times, he comprehends and says this very thing most certainly: that this is true, and so innumerable that he truly cannot comprehend and state its infinite number. The same can be observed likewise in a certain will. For to whom who says, “I will to be happy,” would it not be impudent to answer, “Perhaps you are deceived”? And if he says, “I know that I will this, and I know that I know it,” to these two he can add a third, that he knows these two; and a fourth, that he knows that he knows these two; and so proceed to an infinite number. Likewise if someone says, “I do not wish to err,” will it not be true, whether he errs or does not err, that he does not wish to err? Who would not be most impudent to say to him, “Perhaps you are deceived,” when surely, wherever he is deceived, he is not deceived in not wishing to be deceived? And if he says he knows this, he adds as great a number of known things as he likes, and perceives the number to be infinite. For he who says, “I do not wish to be deceived, and I know that I do not wish it, and I know that I know it,” can from this show an infinite number, even if in awkward speech. And other things are found that avail against the Academics, who contend that nothing can be known by man. But moderation must be kept, especially as this is not what we have undertaken in this work. There are three books of ours on the subject, written in the first period of our conversion; whoever can and will read them, and having read them understands them, will surely not be moved by any of the many arguments they devised against the perception of truth. For since there are two kinds of things that are known, one of those which the mind perceives through the bodily senses, the other of those which it perceives through itself, those philosophers chattered much against the bodily senses; but certain most firm perceptions of true things by the mind through itself, such as the one I mentioned, “I know that I live,” they could in no way call into doubt. But far be it from us to doubt that the things we have learned through the bodily senses are true; for through them we have learned of heaven and earth and the things in them that are known to us, as far as he who made both us and them willed them to become known to us. Far be it also that we should deny that we know what we have learned by the testimony of others; otherwise we do not know that the Ocean exists; we do not know that there are lands and cities which most widespread report commends; we do not know that the men and their deeds existed which we have learned by reading history; we do not know the things that are reported daily from everywhere and confirmed by consistent and concurring evidence; finally, we do not know in what places or from what parents we were born, since we have believed all these things on the testimony of others. And if it is most absurd to say this, we must confess that not only our own bodily senses but also those of others have added very much to our knowledge.

All these things, then, which the human mind knows, whether perceived through itself, through the senses of its body, or by the testimony of others, it holds stored in the treasury of memory; and from these a true word is begotten when we speak what we know, but a word before all sound, before all thought of sound. For then the word is most like the thing known, from which it is begotten, and is its image, since from the sight of knowledge arises the sight of thought, which is a word of no language, a true word from a true thing, having nothing of its own, but wholly from the knowledge from which it is born. Nor does it matter when he who speaks what he knows learned it; for sometimes he says it as soon as he learns it; provided only that the word is true, that is, arisen from things known.

Notes and citation

Summary: Against the Academic skeptics, Augustine argues that much is truly known, above all that one lives, and also much learned through the senses and the testimony of others; from such knowledge the true inner word is born.

  • The “three books” are Augustine's Against the Academics (386). A footnote marker “(a)” that leaked into the digital text is removed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (leaked footnote marker): permovebunt (a). → permovebunt..

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 15.12 (PL 42:1033–1034; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/15-10/#p-15-12). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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15.13PL 42:1034

Sed numquid Deus i'ater, de quo natum est Verbum de Deo Deus; numquid ergo Deus Pater in ilia sapientia qnod est ipse sibi, alia didicit per sensum corporis sui, alia pcr sc ipsum? Quis boc dicat, qui non animal ratio­ nale, sed supra animam rationatcm Dcum cogitat; quantum ab eis cogitari potest, qui eum omnibus animalibus et omnibus animis præferunt, quamvis per speculum cL in ænigmate conjiciendo videant, nondum facie ad faciem sicuti est? Numquid Deus Pater ea it sa, quæ non per corpus, quod est ei nullum, sed per:.c:p!um scit, aliunde ab aliquo didicit, ant nuntiis vel testibus, ut ea sciret, indiguit? Non utique: ad om­!na quippe scienda quæ scit, sufficit sibi illa perfectio. Habet qnidem punUos, id est Angelos, non tamcn qui c' quae nescit annuntient; non enim sunt ulla quæ nesciat: sed bonum eorum est de operibus snis ejns consulere veritatem, et hoc est quod ei dicuntur non­ nulla nuntiarc, nor, ut ipse ab eis discat, sed ut ab illo ipsi per Verbum ejus sine corporali sono. Nun.. tiant etiam quod valuerit, ab eo missi ad quos volu­ crit, totum ab ilIo per illud Verbum ejus audientes; id est, in ejus veritate invenientes quid sibi faci<'ndum, quid. quibus, et quando nuntiandum siL Na!n ct nos oramus cum, nee tamcn necessitates nostras docemus eUim. Novil enim, ait Verbum ejns, Pater vester quid vobis necessarium sit, priusquam petatis ab eo. Nee ista ex aliquo tempore co­ gnovit, ut posset: sed futura omnia temporałia, atque in cis etiam quid et quando ab illo petituri fucramus, et qnos ct de quibus rebus vel exauditurus vel non ex­ auditurus esset, sine initio ante præscivit. Universas au­ tem creaturas suas, et spirituales et corporatcs,non quia sunt ideo novit; sed idco sunt qu!a novit. Non enim ne­ scivit quæ fuerat creaturus. Quia ergo scivit, creavit; non quia creavit, scivit. Nec aliter ea scivit creata, qnam creanda: non enim ejus sapientiæ aliquid ac­ cessit ex cis; sed illis existentibus sicut oportebat, et quando oportebat, ilia mansit ut crat. Ita et scri­ ptum est in libro Ecclesiastico: Antequam crearentur, omnia nota sunt illi; sic et postquam consummata sunt. Sic, inquit, non aliter, ct antequam crearentur, et postquam consummata sunt, sic ei nota sunt. Longe est ergo huic scientiac scientia nostra dissimilis. Quæ autem scientia Dci est, ipsa et sapien­ tia; et qua; sap!cn<ia, ipsa essentia sive substantia. Quia in illius naturæ simplicitate mirabili, non est aliud sapere, aliud esse; sed quod est sapere, hoc est et esse. sicut ct in superioribus libris srpe jam dixi­ mus. Nostra vera scicntia in rebus plurimis propterea et amissibilis est et receptibilis, quia non hoc est nobis esse quod scire vel sapare: quoniam esse pos­ sumus, etiam si nesciamus, neque sapiamus ea quæ aliunde didicimus. Propter hoc, sicut nostra scientia illi scientiae Dei. sic et nostrum verbum quod nascitur de nostra scientia. dissimile est illi Verbo Dei quod natum est de Patris essentia. Tale est autem ac si ciicerem, De Patris scientia, de Patris sapientia; vel, quod est expressius, Dc Patre scientia, de Patre sapientia.

But does God the Father, from whom the Word was born, God from God, does God the Father, I say, in that wisdom which he is to himself, learn some things through the sense of his body and others through himself? Who would say this, who thinks of God not as a rational animal but as above the rational soul, as far as he can be thought of by those who set him above all animals and all souls, although they see by conjecture through a mirror and in an enigma, not yet face to face as he is? Did God the Father learn from elsewhere, from someone, the very things which he knows not through a body, for he has none, but through himself, or did he need messengers or witnesses in order to know them? Certainly not; for that perfection of his suffices for knowing all that he knows. He has messengers indeed, that is, angels, yet not to announce to him what he does not know, for there is nothing he does not know; but their good is to consult his truth about their works, and this is what is meant when they are said to announce some things to him: not that he may learn from them, but that they may learn from him through his Word without bodily sound. They also announce what he wills, sent by him to whom he wills, hearing everything from him through that Word of his, that is, finding in his truth what they are to do, what they are to announce, to whom, and when. For we too pray to him, and yet we do not teach him our needs. For “your Father knows,” says his Word, “what you need before you ask him.” Nor did he come to know these things at some point in time, so that he could know them; but all future temporal things, and among them also what and when we were going to ask of him, and whom he would hear or not hear and in what matters, he foreknew without beginning. And he knows all his creatures, both spiritual and bodily, not because they are; rather, they are because he knows them. For he was not ignorant of what he was going to create. Because he knew, then, he created; he did not know because he created. Nor did he know them otherwise when created than when still to be created; for nothing was added to his wisdom from them, but while they came into existence as was fitting and when it was fitting, it remained as it was. So also it is written in the book Ecclesiasticus: “Before they were created, all things were known to him; so also after they were completed.” “So,” it says, not otherwise: both before they were created and after they were completed, so are they known to him. Far unlike this knowledge, then, is our knowledge. For what is the knowledge of God is also his wisdom; and what is his wisdom is his essence or substance. For in the wonderful simplicity of that nature it is not one thing to be wise and another to be, but to be wise is to be, as we have often said in the earlier books too. But our knowledge in very many things can be both lost and received back, because for us to be is not the same as to know or be wise; for we can be even if we do not know, and are not wise in, the things we have learned from elsewhere. For this reason, as our knowledge is unlike that knowledge of God, so also our word, which is born from our knowledge, is unlike that Word of God which is born from the essence of the Father. And this is as if I said, from the knowledge of the Father, from the wisdom of the Father; or, more expressly, from the Father who is knowledge, from the Father who is wisdom.

1 Cor 13:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 6:8 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: God learns nothing through senses or messengers but knows all things eternally, and creatures exist because he knows them; so our knowledge and word are far unlike his knowledge and the Word born of the Father's essence.

  • Migne's chapter summary at the head of the chapter is omitted. Sources: 1 Cor 13:12; Matt 6:8; Sir 23:20 (Vulgate 23:29).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter summary, not Augustine's text): Item de differentia scientiæ ac verbi mentis. nostræ, a scientia et Verbo Dt!. → .

Extrabiblical texts: Sir 23:20 (Sirach [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Trinity, Prayer

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 15.13 (PL 42:1034; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/15-10/#p-15-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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15.14PL 42:1034–1035

Verbum ergo Dci Pa:r!s unigenitus Filius, per omma Patri similis et a:qua!is, Deus de Deo, lumen de lumine, sapientia de sapientia, essen­ tia de essentia; est hoc nmnino qnod Pater, nou ta­ mrn Pater; quia iste F!!!ns, ilia Pater. Ac per - hoc novit omnia quæ novit Pater: sed ei nosse de Pa:re est, sicut esse. Nosse enim et esse ibi unum est. Et ideo Patri sicut esse non est a Filio. ita ncc nosse. Proinde tanquam se ipsum dicens Pater ge­ nuit Verbum sibi æquale per omma. Non cnim se ipsum integre perfecteque dixisset, si aliquid minus aut amplius esset in ejus Verbo quam in ipso. Ibi summe illud agnoscitur, Est, est; Non, non. Et ideo Verbum hoc vere veritas est: qoo­ n'a!n quidquid est in ea scientia de qu? genitum est. et in ipso est; qcod autem in ea non est, nec in ipso est. Et falsum habere aliquid hoc Verbum nunquam potest: quia immutabiliter sic se habet, ut se habet de quo est. Non enim potest Filius a se facere quid­ quam, nisi quod viderit Patrem facientem (Joan. v, i9). Potenter hoc non potest, nec est infirmitas ista, sed firmitas, qua falsa esse non potest vcritas. Novi* ila­ que omnia Deus Pater in se ipso, novit in Filio: sed in se ipso tanquam se ipsum, in Filio tanquam Ver­ bnm suum, quod est de his omnibus quæ sunt in se ipso. Omnia similiter novit et Filius, in se scilicet, tanqnam ea quae nata sunt de iis quæ Pater novit in se ipso: in Patre autem, tanquam ea de quibus nata sunt, quæ ipse Filius novit in se ipso. Sciunt ergo invicem Pater et Filius: sed ille gignendo, iste na­ scendo. Et omnia quæ sunt in eorum scientia, in eo­ rum sapientia, in corum essentia, unusquisque eorum simul vidct; non particulatim aut singillatim, velut alternante conspectu hinc illuc, et inde huc, et rursus inde vel inde ill aliud atque aliud, ut aliqua videre non pos it nisi nun videns alia: sed, ut dixi, simul omnia vid. t, quorum nullum est quod non semper videt. Yerbum autcm nostrum illud quod non habet sonnm neque cogitationem soni, sed ejus rei I quam videndo intus dicimus, et idco nullius linguæ est; atquc inde utcumque simile est in hoc ænigmate illi Ycrbo Dei, quod etiam Deus est, quoniam sic et hoc de nostra nascitur, quemadmodum et illud de scien­ tia Patris natum est: nostrum ergo tale verbum, quod invenimus esse utcumque illi simile, quantum SiL etiam dissimile sicut a nobis dici potuerit, non p!­ geat intueri.

The Word of God, then, the only-begotten Son of the Father, like and equal to the Father in all things, God from God, light from light, wisdom from wisdom, essence from essence, is wholly what the Father is, yet not the Father, because this one is the Son, that one the Father. And therefore he knows all that the Father knows; but for him to know is from the Father, as is to be. For there to know and to be are one. And therefore, as the Father's being is not from the Son, so neither is his knowing. Accordingly the Father, as it were uttering himself, begot the Word equal to himself in all things. For he would not have uttered himself wholly and perfectly if there were anything less or more in his Word than in himself. There “Yes, yes; no, no” is recognized in the highest degree. And therefore this Word is truly truth, since whatever is in that knowledge from which he was begotten is also in him, and what is not in it is not in him. And this Word can never have anything false, because he is unchangeably as he is from whom he is. For “the Son cannot do anything of himself, except what he sees the Father doing.” He is powerfully unable to do this; nor is this weakness but strength, by which truth cannot be false. God the Father, then, knows all things in himself, and knows them in the Son; but in himself as himself, in the Son as his Word, which is the Word of all these things that are in himself. Likewise the Son also knows all things: in himself, namely, as the things that were born from those which the Father knows in himself; and in the Father, as those from which were born the things the Son himself knows in himself. The Father and the Son, then, know each other, but the one by begetting, the other by being born. And all the things that are in their knowledge, in their wisdom, in their essence, each of them sees at once; not part by part or one by one, as if with a gaze alternating from here to there and from there to here, and again from there or there to one thing after another, so that he could not see some things without not seeing others; but, as I said, he sees all at once, and there is none of them that he does not always see.

But that word of ours which has no sound nor thought of sound, but is the word of the thing which we speak inwardly by seeing it, and therefore belongs to no language, and is hence in some way like, in this enigma, that Word of God who is also God, since this too is born of our knowledge as that was born of the knowledge of the Father: let us not be reluctant to observe how unlike such a word of ours, which we have found to be in some way like that Word, also is, as far as we are able to say it.

Matt 5:37 (allusion, high confidence) · John 5:19 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: The Word, wholly what the Father is but not the Father, knows all things from the Father as he is from him, and Father and Son see all things at once.

  • A footnote digit and a section number (“21.”) that leaked into the digital text are removed. Sources: Nicene Creed phrasing (“God from God, light from light”); Matt 5:37; John 5:19.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (leaked footnote digit; leaked section number): unum est1. → unum est.; 2t. Yerbum → Yerbum.

Topics: Trinity, Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Trin. 15.14 (PL 42:1034–1035; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-trinitate/15-10/#p-15-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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