On the Soul and Its Origin 2.13–3.2

Latin text: Urba–Zycha, CSEL 60 (Latin text: Urba–Zycha, De natura et origine animae (CSEL 60), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 5 (1887), "A Treatise on the Soul and its Origin.".

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Chapter 2

2.13CSEL 60:346–348

Sed ad manifestiora ueniamus. cum enim magnis coartaretur angustiis, quomodo animae originalis peccati uinculo teneantur obstrictae, si non ex illa trahunt originem, quae prima peccauit, sed eas puras ab omni contagione et propagatione peccati peccatrici carni creator insufflat, ne dicatur illi, quod sic insufflando eas deus efficit reas, primo de praescientia dei hanc opinionem munire temptauit, quod eis praeparauerit redemtionem. in cuius redemtionis sacramento paruuli baptizantur, ut abluatur originale peccatum, quod de carne traxerunt; quasi facta sua deus emendet, quod eas insontes fecerat inquinari. sed posteaquam uentum est, ut de illis loqueretur, quibus tali non subuenitur auxilio et antequam baptizentur exspirant: in hoc, inquit, loco non me quasi auctorem spondeo, sed aliquid de exemplo conicio. habendam dicimus de infantibus istius modi rationem, qui praedestinati baptismo uitae praesentis, antequam renascantur in Christo, praeueniuntur occiduo. legimus enim, inquit, de talibus scriptum: raptus est, n e malitia mutet illius intelle ctum aut ne fictio d e cipi at animam eius. propter hoc c pr oper auit de medio in iquitatis illum educere; placita enim erat deo anima eius, et: consummatus in breui repleuit tempora longa a. quis istum dedignetur habere doctorem? ergone paruuli, quos plerumque uolunt homines baptizari et. dum curritur, ante moriuntur, si retardarentur in ista paululum uita, ut baptizati continuo morerentur, malitia mutaret intellectum eorum et fictio deciperet animam eorum et, ne hoc eis contingeret, subuentum est illis, ut ante raperentur quam baptizarentur? in ipso ergo baptismate mutarentur in peius et fictione deciperentur, si post baptisma raperentur. o ammiranda atque sectanda, immo uero detestanda et exsecranda doctrina! sed hoc de uestra prudentia, qui affuistis, cum recitaret, iste praesumpsit et de tua maxime, ad quem scripsit et cui recitatos libros tradidit, ut credituros nos esse confideret de non baptizatis infantibus esse scriptum, quod de omnium sanctorum inmaturis aetatibus scriptum est, cum quibus male actum stulti arbitrantur, si de hac uita celeriter rapti fuerint nec ad annos, quos homines pro magno diuino munere sibi exoptant, peruenire potuerint. quale est autem dicere infantes praedestinatos baptismo uitae praesentis, antequam renascantur in Christo, occiduo praeueniri, uelut aliqua uis fortunae seu fati siue cuiuslibet rei non permittat deum quod praedestinauit inplere? et quomodo ipse illos rapit, quia placuerunt illi? an eos et ipse praedestinat baptizari et ipse quod praedestinauit non sinit fieri?

But let us come to plainer things. For when he was hemmed in by great straits—how souls are held bound by the chain of original sin if they do not derive their origin from that soul which sinned first, but the Creator breathes them, pure from all contagion and propagation of sin, into sinful flesh—so that it might not be said to him that by breathing them in thus God makes them guilty, he first tried to fortify this opinion by God’s foreknowledge, in that he has prepared redemption for them; in the sacrament of this redemption little children are baptized so that the original sin they contracted from the flesh may be washed away—as though God were amending his own deeds, because he had made them defiled when innocent. But when he came to speak of those who are not aided by such help and die before they are baptized, he says: “In this place I do not pledge myself as an authority, but conjecture something from an example. We say an account must be given of infants of this kind who, predestined to the baptism of the present life, are overtaken by death before they are reborn in Christ. For we read,” he says, “that it is written of such: ‘He was snatched away, lest wickedness should change his understanding or deceit beguile his soul. Therefore he hastened to lead him out from the midst of iniquity; for his soul was pleasing to God’; and: ‘Being made perfect in a short time, he fulfilled long times.’” Who would disdain to have this man as teacher? Would little children, then, whom people often want baptized and who die before it while people are hurrying, if they were delayed a little in this life so as to die immediately after baptism—would wickedness change their understanding and deceit beguile their soul, and, so that this might not happen to them, were they helped by being snatched away before they were baptized? In baptism itself, then, they would be changed for the worse and beguiled by deceit, if they were snatched away after baptism! O teaching to be admired and followed—or rather to be detested and cursed! But this man presumed so much on the good sense of you who were present when he read, and especially on yours, to whom he wrote and to whom he handed the books after reading them, as to trust that we would believe that what was written of the early deaths of all the saints was written of unbaptized infants—saints whom fools think badly treated if they are quickly snatched from this life and cannot reach the years that people wish for themselves as a great divine gift. And what does it mean to say that infants predestined to the baptism of the present life are overtaken by death before they are reborn in Christ, as though some force of fortune or fate or anything else did not permit God to fulfil what he predestined? And how does he himself snatch them away, because they pleased him? Does he himself predestine them to be baptized and himself not allow what he predestined to happen?

Notes and citation

Summary: Victor applies Wisdom 4 to infants who die unbaptized, implying absurdly that baptism would have corrupted them and that God’s predestination can be thwarted.

  • Wis 4:11, 14, 13 (Augustine’s Latin).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e): infantes pracdestinatos → infantes praedestinatos; occiduo pracueniri → occiduo praeueniri.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 4:11 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation); Wis 4:13 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.13 (CSEL 60:346–348; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.14CSEL 60:348–349

Sed adtende quid adhuc audeat, cui displicet in tanta huius profunditate quaestionis cautior quam scientior nostra cunctatio: ausim dicere, inquit, istos peruenire posse ad originalium indulgentiam peccatorum, non tamen ut caeleste inducantur in regnum, sicuti latroni confesso quidem sed non baptizato dominus non caelorum regnum tribuit, sed paradisum, cum utique iam maneret: qui non renatus fuerit ex aqua et spiritu sancto, non intrabit in regnum caelorum, praecipue quia multas esse mansiones apud patrem suum dominus profitetur, in quibus designantur merita multa et diuersa mansorum, ut hic non baptizatus perducatur ad ueniam, baptizatus ad palmam, quae est parata per gratiam. cernis hominem paradisum atque mansiones, quae sunt apud patrem, a regno separare caelorum, ut etiam non baptizatis abundent loca sempiternae felicitatis. nec uidet. cum ista dicit, ita se nolle baptizati cuiuspiam paruuli mansionem a caelorum regno separare, ut ipsam dei patris domum uel aliquas partes eius inde separare non timeat; neque enim dominus Iesus in uniuersitate creaturae uel in qualibet uniuersitatis parte, sed: in domo patris mei, dixit, multae mansiones sunt. quomodo ergo erit in dei patris domo non baptizatus, cum deum patrem habere non possit nisi renatus? non sit ingratus deo, qui eum dignatus est a Donatistarum uel Rogatistarum diuisione liberare, ut ipsam domum dei patris quaerat diuidere et aliquam eius partem extra regnum caelorum ponere, ubi non baptizati ualeant habitare. et quo pacto ipse regnum caelorum se intraturum esse praesumit, de quo regno in quanta uult parte domum ipsius regis excludit? sed de latrone illo, qui iuxta dominum crucifixus sperauit in dominum etiam crucifixum, et de fratre sanctae Perpetuae Dinocrate argumentatur, quod etiam non baptizatis dari possit indulgentia peccatorum et sedes aliqua beatorum; quasi quisquam, cui non credere nefas esset, huic indicauerit quod non fuerint baptizati. de quibus tamen in eo libro, quem scripsi ad fratrem nostrum Renatum, plenius quid mihi uideretur exposui. quod tua dilectio poterit nosse, si non spreueris legere; nam ille petenti non poterit denegare.

But note what further he dares, who is displeased by our hesitation, more cautious than knowing, in so deep a question: “I would dare to say,” he says, “that these can reach forgiveness of original sins, yet not so as to be brought into the heavenly kingdom; just as to the thief who confessed but was not baptized the Lord granted not the kingdom of heaven but paradise, although this already stood: ‘Whoever is not reborn of water and the Holy Spirit will not enter the kingdom of heaven’; especially since the Lord declares that there are many mansions with his Father, by which are signified the many and different deserts of those who dwell in them, so that here the unbaptized is brought to pardon, the baptized to the palm, which is prepared by grace.” You see the man separating paradise and the mansions that are with the Father from the kingdom of heaven, so that there may be abundant places of everlasting happiness even for the unbaptized. Nor does he see, when he says this, that while he will not separate the mansion of any baptized little child from the kingdom of heaven, he is not afraid to separate the very house of God the Father, or some parts of it, from it. For the Lord Jesus did not say, “In the whole of creation” or “in some part of the universe”, but: “In my Father’s house there are many mansions.” How then will an unbaptized person be in the house of God the Father, when he cannot have God as Father unless reborn? Let him not be ungrateful to God, who deigned to free him from the division of the Donatists or Rogatists, by seeking to divide the very house of God the Father and to place some part of it outside the kingdom of heaven, where the unbaptized may live. And on what terms does he presume that he himself will enter the kingdom of heaven, from which kingdom he excludes the house of the King himself in as large a part as he likes? But from that thief who, crucified beside the Lord, hoped in the Lord even crucified, and from Dinocrates, the brother of Saint Perpetua, he argues that forgiveness of sins and some seat of the blessed can be given even to the unbaptized—as though someone whom it would be wicked not to believe had told him that they were not baptized. About them, however, I have set out my view more fully in the book I wrote to our brother Renatus. Your love will be able to know it if you do not scorn to read it; for he will not be able to refuse you if you ask.

Luke 23:43 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · John 14:2 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Victor separates paradise and the Father’s mansions from the kingdom of heaven to give unbaptized infants a blessed place, citing the thief and Dinocrates.

  • Luke 23:43; John 3:5; John 14:2. Dinocrates: Passion of Perpetua (see Book 1.12).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e; joined words): dci patris → dei patris; indomo patris → in domo patris.

Extrabiblical texts: Mart. Perp. 3 (The Passion of Saints Perpetua and Felicity; allusion)

Topics: Baptism, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.14 (CSEL 60:348–349; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-14). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.15CSEL 60:349–350

Aestuat tamen iste atque horrendis suffocatur angustiis; adtentius enim fortasse quam tu quid mali dicat adtendit praeter Christi scilicet baptismum solui in paruulis originale peccatum. denique, ut aliquatenus in hac causa uel sero ad ecclesiae sacramenta confugiat: pro his sane, inquit, oblationes assiduas et offerenda iugiter sanctorum censeo sacrificia sacerdotum. habeto istum, si placet, etiam censorem, si parum fuerat habere doctorem, ut sacrificium corporis Christi etiam pro his offeras, qui Christo non sunt incorporati. rem quippe tam nouam atque a disciplina ecclesiastica et a regula ueritatis alienam cum libris suis auderet inserere, non ait puto, non ait existimo, non ait arbitror, non ait saltem suggero uel dico, sed censeo,ut scilicet, si offenderemur nouitate seu peruersitate sententiae, terreremur auctoritate censurae. uideris tu, frater, quomodo sustinere possis istum docentem; catholici tamen qui sanum sapiunt sacerdotes, quibus et te oportet adiungi, absit ut adquiescant istum audire censentem, quem potius optant resipiscentem ac dolentem et quod ista senserit, immo uero etiam scripserit correctione saluberrima paenitentem. sed hoc, inquit, exemplo Machabeorum in proelio cadentium astruo faciendum, qui cum furtim de interdictis auferrent atque in ipso certamine cecidissent, a sacerdotibus, ait, inuenimus hoc initum fuisse consilium, ut quorum animas ex uetito reatus obstrinxerat, sacrificiorum oblatio repararet. ita istuc dicit, quasi pro incircumcisis illa oblata legerit sacrificia, sicut haec nostra pro non baptizatis censuit offerenda. circumcisio quippe fuit illius temporis sacramentum, quod praefigurabat nostri temporis baptismum.

Yet he is in turmoil and choked by horrible straits; for he perhaps notices more attentively than you what an evil thing he is saying, namely that original sin is loosed in little children apart from the baptism of Christ. Finally, so as to take refuge in this matter, however late, in the sacraments of the church, he says: “Certainly I decree that constant offerings and the sacrifices of holy priests should continually be offered for them.” Take him, if you please, as your censor as well, if it was too little to have him as your teacher, so that you offer the sacrifice of the body of Christ even for those who are not incorporated into Christ. For when he dared to put into his books something so new and foreign to church discipline and to the rule of truth, he does not say “I think”, does not say “I suppose”, does not say “I judge”, does not even say “I suggest” or “I say”, but “I decree”; so that, if we were offended by the novelty or perversity of the opinion, we might be frightened by the authority of the decree. You must see, brother, how you can bear him as teacher; but far be it that catholic priests of sound mind, among whom you ought to be joined, should consent to hear him decreeing—him whom they rather wish to see returning to his senses and grieving, and repenting with a most wholesome correction of having thought, and indeed even written, such things. “But this,” he says, “I establish should be done on the example of the Maccabees who fell in battle; since they had secretly taken some of the forbidden things and had fallen in the very fight, we find,” he says, “that this plan was undertaken by the priests: that the offering of sacrifices should restore those whose souls guilt had bound from the forbidden thing.” He says this as if he had read that those sacrifices were offered for the uncircumcised, as he decreed that ours should be offered for the unbaptized. For circumcision was the sacrament of that time, which prefigured the baptism of our time.

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Summary: Victor “decrees” eucharistic sacrifices for unbaptized infants on the example of 2 Maccabees, but those sacrifices were for the circumcised.

  • 2 Macc 12:39–45. Augustine plays on “censeo” (I decree) and “censor”.

Extrabiblical texts: 2 Macc 12:40 (2 Maccabees [in RC, EO canons]; allusion)

Topics: Baptism, Eucharist, Church office

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.15 (CSEL 60:349–350; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.16CSEL 60:350–351

Verum tamen iste in sui comparatione qualis posterius apparuit tolerabilius adhuc errat. nam uelut paenituerit eum — non quod debuit paenitere, id est quod ausus fuerit asserere non baptizatis relaxari originale peccatum atque indulgentiam dari omnium peccatorum, ut in paradisum, hoc est locum tantae felicitatis, mittantur et beatas mansiones in domo dei patris habere mereantur, sed illud eum potius paenituerit, quod eis minoris beatitudinis extra regnum caelorum concesserit sedes —, adiunxit atque ait: aut si forte quispiam reluctetur latronis animae uel Dinocratis interim temporarie conlatum paradisum — nam superesse illis adhuc in resurrectione praemium regni caelorum quamquam sententia illa principalis obsistat, quia qui non renatus fuerit ex aqua et spiritu sancto, non intrabit in regnum caelorum -, tamen teneat etiam meum in hac parte non inuidentis assensum, modo misericordiae praescientiaeque diuinae et effectum amplificet et affectum. haec uerba in secundo libro eius lecta descripsi. numquid in hac causa erroris audaciam, temeritatem, praesumtionem habere quispiam posset ampliorem? ipse sententiam dominicam recordatur, ipse commemorat, ipse suis litteris interponit, ipse dicit: quamquam sententia illa principalis obsistat, quia qui non renatus f uerit e x aqua et spiritu sancto, non intrabit in regnum caelorum, et audet tamen suae censurae leuare ceruicem contra sententiam principalem! teneat, inquit, etiam meum non inuidentis assensum, qui dicit animas non baptizatorum temporarie mereri paradisum — propter has enim latronem atque Dinocratem tamquam praescribendo uel potius praeiudicando commemorat —, in resurrectione autem in meliora transferri et regni caelorum percipere praemium, quamquam sententia, inquit, principalis obsistat. iam ergo ipse considera, quaeso te, frater, quisquis cuipiam praebet assensum aduersus auctoritatem sententiae principalis, quam sententiam merebitur principis!

Yet this man still errs more tolerably by comparison with what he later showed himself to be. For as though he had repented—not of what he ought to have repented, namely that he dared to assert that original sin is remitted and forgiveness of all sins given to the unbaptized, so that they are sent into paradise, that is, a place of such happiness, and deserve to have blessed mansions in the house of God the Father, but rather as though he repented of having granted them seats of lesser blessedness outside the kingdom of heaven—he added and said: “Or if someone perhaps objects that paradise was conferred temporarily for the meantime on the soul of the thief or of Dinocrates—for the reward of the kingdom of heaven still remains for them in the resurrection, although that principal sentence stands in the way, that whoever is not reborn of water and the Holy Spirit will not enter the kingdom of heaven—let him nevertheless have in this part also my assent, which does not begrudge it, provided only that he magnifies both the effect and the affection of the divine mercy and foreknowledge.” I have copied these words as I read them in his second book. Could anyone have a greater boldness, rashness, and presumption of error in this matter? He himself recalls the Lord’s sentence, he himself mentions it, he himself inserts it into his writing, he himself says: “although that principal sentence stands in the way, that whoever is not reborn of water and the Holy Spirit will not enter the kingdom of heaven”—and yet he dares to raise the neck of his own decree against the principal sentence! “Let him have,” he says, “my assent, which does not begrudge it”—him who says that the souls of the unbaptized deserve paradise temporarily (for this is why he mentions the thief and Dinocrates, as though laying down a precedent or rather prejudging the case), but in the resurrection are transferred to better things and receive the reward of the kingdom of heaven, “although,” he says, “the principal sentence stands in the way.” Consider now yourself, I beg you, brother: whoever gives assent to anyone against the authority of the principal sentence, what sentence of the Prince will he deserve!

John 3:5 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Victor goes further, allowing unbaptized souls the kingdom of heaven after the resurrection while admitting that Christ’s words in John 3:5 oppose it.

  • John 3:5. Augustine plays on “sententia principalis” (the chief sentence, the Prince’s sentence).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e; split word): assen. sum → assensum; Dinocratcm → Dinocratem; prae. scribendo → praescribendo.

Extrabiblical texts: Mart. Perp. 3 (The Passion of Saints Perpetua and Felicity; allusion)

Topics: Baptism, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.16 (CSEL 60:350–351; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.17CSEL 60:351–352

Nouellos hereticos Pelagianos iustissime conciliorum catholicorum et sedis apostolicae damnauit auctoritas, eo quod ausi fuerint non baptizatis paruulis dare quietis et salutis salutis etiam praeter regnum caelorum. quod ausi non fuissent, nisi negarent eos habere originale peccatum, quod opus esset absolui per baptismatis sacramentum. iste autem sicut catholicus dicit paruulos originali obstrictos esse peccato et tamen eos ab huiusmodi uinculo sine lauacro regenerationis absoluit et post mortem in paradisum misericors mittit, post resurrectionem uero etiam in regnum caelorum misericors introducit. talis sibi Saul misericors uisus est, quando pepercit regi quem deus praecepit occidi; sed merito inoboediens misericordia uel misericors inoboedientia reprobata atque damnata est, ut caueat homo, ne ab illo misericordiam mereatur homo contra eius sententiam, a quo factus est homo. intonat per os proprii corporis ueritas: si quis non renatus fuerit ex aqua et spiritu, non potest introire in regnum dei. atque ut ab hac sententia exceptos martyres faciat, quibus contigerit ante pro Christi nomine occidi quam Christi baptismate dilui, dicit alio loco: qui perdiderit animam suam propter me, inueniet eam. et ne cuiquam, qui non renatus fuerit christianae fidei lauacro, promittatur peccati originalis abolitio, clamat apostolus: per unius delictum in omnes homines ad condemnationem. contra quam condemnationem dominus unum esse ostendens salutis auxilium: qui crediderit, inquit, et baptizatus fuerit, saluus erit; qui autem non crediderit, condemnabitur. cuius mysterium credulitatis in paruulis per eorum responsionem a quibus gestantur inpletur, ne, si factum non fuerit, eant ex uno omnes in condemnationem. et tamen contra tam manifestas uoces, quas concinit ueritas, procedit in medium magis uaecors quam misericors uanitas et dicit: non solum non eunt in damnationem paruuli, etsi nullum eos christianae fidei lauacrum a uinculo peccati originalis absoluat, uerum etiam felicitate paradisi post mortem interim perfruuntur, post resurrectionem autem etiam regni caelorum felicitatem possidebunt. haec iste contra catholicam fundatissimam fidem numquid dicere auderet, si quaestionem soluendam de animae origine uires suas excedentem suscipere non auderet?

The authority of catholic councils and of the apostolic see has most justly condemned the new Pelagian heretics because they dared to give unbaptized little children rest and salvation even outside the kingdom of heaven. They would not have dared this unless they denied that they have original sin, which would need to be loosed through the sacrament of baptism. But this man, as a catholic, says that little children are bound by original sin, and yet he looses them from this kind of bond without the washing of regeneration, and after death mercifully sends them into paradise, and after the resurrection mercifully brings them even into the kingdom of heaven. So Saul thought himself merciful when he spared the king whom God had commanded to be killed; but his disobedient mercy, or merciful disobedience, was deservedly rejected and condemned, so that a man may beware of receiving mercy from a man against the sentence of him by whom man was made. The Truth thunders through the mouth of his own body: “If anyone is not reborn of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” And to make the martyrs an exception to this sentence, those who happen to be killed for the name of Christ before being washed by Christ’s baptism, he says in another place: “Whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” And lest the abolition of original sin be promised to anyone who has not been reborn by the washing of the Christian faith, the apostle cries: “Through the trespass of one, to all men to condemnation.” Against this condemnation the Lord, showing that there is one help to salvation, says: “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; but whoever does not believe will be condemned.” The mystery of this believing is fulfilled in little children through the answer of those by whom they are carried, lest, if it is not done, all go from the one into condemnation. And yet against such manifest voices, which the Truth sings in harmony, a vanity more senseless than merciful comes forward and says: not only do little children not go into damnation, even if no washing of the Christian faith looses them from the bond of original sin, but they even enjoy the happiness of paradise in the meantime after death, and after the resurrection they will possess the happiness of the kingdom of heaven as well. Would he dare to say these things against the most firmly founded catholic faith if he did not dare to take up a question about the origin of the soul that exceeds his strength?

1 Sam 15:9 (allusion, high confidence) · John 3:5 (quotation, high confidence) · Matt 10:39 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:18 (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 16:16 (quotation, high confidence)

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Summary: Victor, though admitting original sin, goes beyond the condemned Pelagians by promising unbaptized infants paradise and the kingdom, against John 3:5, Rom 5:18 and Mark 16:16.

  • The Pelagians were condemned by African councils and by the Roman see (Zosimus, 418). Saul and Agag: 1 Sam 15:9–23. John 3:5; Matt 10:39; Rom 5:18; Mark 16:16. The digital text repeats “salutis” in “quietis et salutis salutis”; a word such as “locum” may have been lost; translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e; OCR: e for c; OCR: h for n; stray letter): conciliorum eatholicorum → conciliorum catholicorum; co quod ausi → eo quod ausi; post resurrectionem ucro → post resurrectionem uero; inucniet eam → inueniet eam; mahifestas → manifestas; joriginalis → originalis.

Topics: Baptism, Martyrdom, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.17 (CSEL 60:351–352; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.18CSEL 60:352–354

Horrendis est enim coartatus angustiis ab eis qui dicunt: cur deus animam tam iniusta animaduersione multauit, ut in corpus eam peccati relegare uoluerit, cum consortio carnis peccatrix esse incipit, quae peccatrix esse non potuit? utique enim dicunt: non potuit anima esse peccatrix, nisi eam deus miscuisset carnis consortio peccatricis. qua ergo iustitia id fecerit deus, cum iste inuenire non posset — maxime propter aeternam damnationem morientium paruulorum, quibus non baptizatis expiatum non fuerit originale peccatum —, cur itaque deus iustus et bonus paruulorum animas, quibus praesciuit non subuenturum christianae gratiae sacramentum, ab omni noxa propaginis liberas mittendo in corpus quod ex Adam trahitur uinculo peccati originalis obstrinxerit atque isto modo reas aeternae damnationis effecerit, cum inuenire non posset nec uellet dicere etiam ipsas ex illa ulla originem trahere peccatricem, maluit per naufragium miserabile exire quam temerarium cursum uelis depositis et remis suae disputationis inhibitis prouida deliberatione frenare. uiluit quippe iuueni senilis nostra cunctatio, quasi huic molestissimae ac periculosissimae quaestioni magis fuerit impetus eloquentiae quam consilium prudentiae necessarium. ut praeuidit etiam hoc ipse, sed frustra; nam haec sibi uelut ab aduersariis propositurus obiecta: exhinc alia, inquit, substruuntur obprobria querulis murmurationibus oblatrantum et exhinc quasi quodam turbine identidem inter immania saxa conlidimur. his praedictis quaestionem supra dictam scopulosissimam sibi proposuit, ubi a fide catholica naufragauit, nisi refecerit paenitendo quod fregit. illum ego turbinem atque illa saxa deuitans nauem illis committere nolui et de hac re ita scripsi, ut rationem potius cunctationis meae quam temeritatem praesumptionis ostenderem. quod opusculum meum cum apud te inuenisset, inrisit seque illis cautibus animosiore impetu quam consultiore commisit. sed quo cum praefidentia ista perduxerit, puto quod nunc uideas; uberius autem ago deo gratias, si et antea iam uidebas. cum enim nollet cohibere praecipitem cursum propter ancipitem excursum, miserabilem inuenit incursum asserens deum paruulis sine christiana regeneratione defunctis et modo paradisum et postea regnum conferre caelorum.

For he was hemmed in by horrible straits by those who say: “Why did God punish the soul with so unjust a penalty as to be willing to banish it into a body of sin, when by fellowship with the flesh it begins to be sinful, which could not have been sinful?” For they certainly say: the soul could not have been sinful unless God had mingled it in fellowship with sinful flesh. Since he could not find by what justice God did this—especially because of the eternal damnation of little children who die, for whom, unbaptized, original sin has not been expiated—why, then, God, just and good, bound with the chain of original sin the souls of little children, free from all guilt of propagation, whom he foreknew the sacrament of Christian grace would not reach, by sending them into the body drawn from Adam, and in this way made them guilty of eternal damnation—since he could not find this, and would not say that they too derive any sinful origin from that soul, he preferred to get out by a wretched shipwreck rather than to check his rash course by provident deliberation, lowering the sails and holding back the oars of his argument. For our old man’s hesitation seemed cheap to the young man, as though this most troublesome and most dangerous question needed the impetus of eloquence more than the counsel of prudence. He foresaw this too, but in vain; for, about to put these objections to himself as from opponents, he says: “Hence other reproaches are laid beneath us by the complaining murmurs of those who bark against us, and hence, as if by a whirlwind, we are dashed again and again among enormous rocks.” After saying this he put to himself the above-mentioned most rocky question, where he was shipwrecked from the catholic faith, unless he repairs by repenting what he has broken. I, avoiding that whirlwind and those rocks, would not commit my ship to them, and wrote about this matter in such a way as to show the reason for my hesitation rather than the rashness of presumption. When he found that little work of mine at your house, he laughed at it and committed himself to those crags with more spirit than counsel. But where this overconfidence has brought him I think you now see; and I give God still more abundant thanks if you saw it even before. For since he would not check his headlong course for fear of a dangerous outcome, he met a wretched collision, asserting that God confers on little children who die without Christian regeneration now paradise and afterward the kingdom of heaven.

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Summary: Unable to reconcile God’s justice with infants’ damnation on his view, Victor scorned Augustine’s caution and was “shipwrecked” by promising them paradise and the kingdom.

  • Victor’s words are also quoted in 1.7 and 1.9. The little work of Augustine is probably his Letter 166 to Jerome on the origin of the soul (identification uncertain).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: nl for ul): parunlorum → paruulorum.

Topics: Baptism

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.18 (CSEL 60:352–354; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.19CSEL 60:354

Scripturarum uero testimonia quaecumque posuit, quibus animas deum non ex illius primae propagine adtrahere, sed sicut ipsam primam suas quibusque singulis insufflare uelut probare conatus est, ita sunt, quod ad istam quaestionem adtinet. incerta et ambigua, ut etiam aliter accipi quam ipse uult facillime possint. quod iam in eo libro, quem scripsi ad amicum nostrum, cuius commemorationem superius feci, satis, quantum existimo, demonstraui. testimonia quippe ipsa quae adhibuit, ubi legitur deus animas uel dare uel facere uel fingere, unde illas det uel unde faciat siue fingat non ostendunt: utrum ex propagine illius primae an insufflando sicut illam primam. iste autem ex eo ipso, quod legitur animas deus dare siue facere siue fingere, iam putat animarum negatam esse propaginem, cum deus eadem scriptura teste etiam corpora det siue faciat siue fingat, quae tamen ab illo ex propagine seminis dari, fieri, fingi nemo ambigit.

All the testimonies of Scripture he set down, by which he tried to prove, as it were, that God does not draw souls from the propagation of that first soul but breathes into each individual its own soul, as he did that first one, are, as far as this question is concerned, so uncertain and ambiguous that they can very easily be taken otherwise than he wants. I have already shown this sufficiently, I think, in the book I wrote to our friend whom I mentioned above. For the testimonies he adduced, where we read that God gives or makes or forms souls, do not show whence he gives or makes or forms them: whether from the propagation of that first soul or by breathing, as that first one. But he thinks that from the very fact that we read that God gives or makes or forms souls, the propagation of souls is already denied, although by the witness of the same Scripture God also gives or makes or forms bodies, which no one doubts are given, made, and formed by him through the propagation of seed.

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Summary: Victor’s texts on God giving, making, or forming souls do not decide how, since God also gives bodies through seed.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e; OCR: n for u): adtraherc → adtrahere; faciat sine fingat → faciat siue fingat; det sine faciat → det siue faciat.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.19 (CSEL 60:354; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.20CSEL 60:354–356

Item quod scriptum est ex uno sanguine deum fecisse omne genus hominum uel quod ait Adam: hoc nunc os ex ossibus meis et caro de carne mea, quia neque ibi dictum est ex una anima neque hic anima de anima mea, putat negari animas filiorum ex parentibus uel illius mulieris ex uiro; quasi uero, si non ex uno sanguine, sed ex una anima diceretur. aliud quam totus homo intellegeretur nec corporis propagatio negaretur. sic etiam si dictum esset: anima de anima mea, non utique negaretur caro, quam de illo exemtam fuisse constabat; a parte enim totum sicut etiam a toto partem plerumque scriptura significat. nam certe si non ex uno sanguine sed ex uno homine illo loco scriptum esset institutum esse genus humanum, unde iste adhibuit testimonium, non praeiudicaret istis qui negant animarum propaginem, quamuis non sola anima nec sola caro, sed utrumque sit homo. responderent enim a toto partem, id est ab homine solam hominis carnem, scripturam significare potuisse. sic ergo et hi qui defendunt animarum propaginem illud quod dictum est ex uno sanguine per sanguinem scilicet hominem, id est a parte totum, significatum esse contendunt. sicut enim uidetur illos iuuare quod dictum est ex uno sanguine nec dictum est ex uno homine, sic uidetur et istos iuuare quod dictum est: per unum hominem peccatum intrauit in mundum et per peccatum mors et ita in omnes homines pertransiit, in quo omnes peccauerun t, nec dictum est in quo omnium caro peccauit. itemque sicut illos uidetur iuuare quod dictum est: hoc nunc os ex ossibus meis et caro de carne m e a, quia pars est dicta, non totum, sic iterum istos, quod ibi continuo sequitur: haec uocabitur mulier, quoniam de uiro suo sumta est. debuit enim dici aiunt quoniam de uiro suo caro eius sumta est, si non tota mulier, id est cum anima. sed sola caro sumeretur ex uiro. porro autem utrisque auditis qui sine studio partium iudicat. uidet profecto nec contra istos qui propaginem animarum defendunt proferenda illa testimonia ubi pars nominatur, quia potuit scriptura significare illic a parte totum — sicut uerbum caro factum est cum legimus, non utique carnem solam, sed hominem totum intellegimus —, nec contra illos qui propaginem animarum destruunt ista proferenda, ubi non pars hominis, sed totum commemoratur, quia potuit ibi scriptura a toto partem significare, sicut sepultum confitemur Christum, cum caro eius sola sepulta sit. ac per hoc propaginem animarum nec temere astruendam nec temere destruendam dicimus, sed ammonemus alia testimonia esse quaerenda, quae non inueniantur ambigua.

Likewise, because it is written that God made every race of men from one blood, and because Adam said, “This now is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh”, since neither was “from one soul” said there nor “soul of my soul” here, he thinks it is denied that the souls of children come from the parents, or that of that woman from the man; as if, had it been said not “from one blood” but “from one soul”, anything other than the whole man would be understood, and the propagation of the body would not be denied. So too, if it had been said, “soul of my soul”, the flesh, which it was agreed had been taken from him, would certainly not be denied; for Scripture often signifies the whole by a part, as also a part by the whole. For certainly, if in the place from which he took his testimony it had been written that the human race was established not from one blood but from one man, it would not prejudge the case against those who deny the propagation of souls, even though man is not the soul alone nor the flesh alone but both. For they would answer that Scripture could have signified a part by the whole, that is, by “man” only the flesh of man. So in the same way those who defend the propagation of souls contend that in what is said, “from one blood”, man is signified by blood, that is, the whole by a part. For just as “from one blood”, and not “from one man”, seems to help those, so also what is said seems to help these: “Through one man sin entered the world, and through sin death, and so it passed through to all men, in whom all sinned”—and it was not said, “in whom the flesh of all sinned”. And again, just as “This now is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh” seems to help those, because a part was named, not the whole, so what follows immediately seems to help these in turn: “She shall be called woman, because she was taken from her husband.” For it ought to have been said, they say, “because her flesh was taken from her husband”, if not the whole woman, that is, with the soul, but only the flesh was taken from the man. Moreover, whoever judges without partisanship, having heard both, certainly sees that neither should those testimonies where a part is named be brought against those who defend the propagation of souls, because Scripture could have signified the whole by a part there—as when we read, “The Word was made flesh”, we certainly understand not the flesh alone but the whole man—nor should these, where not a part of man but the whole is mentioned, be brought against those who destroy the propagation of souls, because Scripture could have signified a part by the whole there, as we confess that Christ was buried, though his flesh alone was buried. And therefore we say that the propagation of souls should be neither rashly established nor rashly destroyed, but we advise that other testimonies must be sought which are not found ambiguous.

Acts 17:26 (quotation, high confidence) · Gen 2:23 (quotation, high confidence) · Rom 5:12 (quotation, high confidence) · John 1:14 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 15:4 (allusion, low confidence)

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Summary: Texts naming a part (blood, flesh) or the whole (man, woman) cut both ways by synecdoche; unambiguous testimonies are needed.

  • Acts 17:26; Gen 2:23; Rom 5:12; John 1:14; the burial of Christ (e.g. 1 Cor 15:4).

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: e for c; joined words; stray hyphen): neg-ant → negant; quodibi → quod ibi; iudieat → iudicat.

Topics: Scripture and canon

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.20 (CSEL 60:354–356; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.21CSEL 60:356–357

Quamobrem quid te iste docuerit et unde gratias egeris, nondum scio. manet quippe illa quaestio, sicut erat, in qua quaeritur de animarum origine, utrum illas deus ex propagine illius unius, quam primo insufflauit homini, an ex flatu suo, sicut primo homini, det, faciat, fingat hominibus, quas eum dare, facere, fingere fides christiana non dubitat. quam quaestionem iste cum soluere conaretur nec uires suas intueretur, destruens animarum propaginem et asserens eas puras ab omni contagione peccati non de nihilo, sed de se ipso insufflare creatorem et naturam dei mutabilitatis obprobrio, quod necesse non fuerat, infamauit et, dum uult reddere rationem, ne deus credatur iniustus, si puras ab omni peccato animas, etiam illas, quas christiana regeneratione non redimit, uinculo peccati originalis innectit, ea dixit quae te nolo docuerit. tantum enim salutis et felicitatis non baptizatis paruulis tribuit, quantum nec Pelagiana heresis potuit. et tamen de tot milibus paruulorum, qui nascuntur ex impiis et inter impios moriuntur, non quibus homines per baptismum, cum uelint, subuenire non possunt, sed de quibus baptizandis nemo potuit uel poterit cogitare nec quisquam pro eis obtulit uel oblaturus est sacrificium, quod iste etiam pro non baptizandis censuit offerendum, quid diceret non inuenit. de quibus si fuerit interrogatus, eorum animae quid meruerint, ut illas deus nec abluendas baptismo nec expiandas Christi corporis et sanguinis sacrificio et in aeternum damnandas carni inseruerit peccatrici, aut omnino haerebit et ei nostra cunctatio uel sero placebit aut simul pro omnibus paruulis, qui toto orbe terrarum sine christiano baptismate moriuntur, etiam eorum nominibus tacitis, quoniam nesciuntur in ecclesia Christi, non incorporatis corpori Christi offerendum corpus Christi esse censebit.

Therefore I do not yet know what he taught you and for what you gave thanks. For the question remains as it was, in which it is asked about the origin of souls: whether God gives, makes, forms for men—as the Christian faith does not doubt that he gives, makes, forms them—from the propagation of that one soul which he first breathed into man, or from his own breath, as for the first man. In trying to solve this question without looking at his own strength, he destroyed the propagation of souls and asserted that the Creator breathes them in, pure from all contagion of sin, not from nothing but from himself; and so he defamed the nature of God with the reproach of changeableness, which was not necessary; and while he wished to give a reason why God should not be thought unjust if he entangles in the chain of original sin souls pure from all sin, even those which he does not redeem by Christian regeneration, he said things which I hope he did not teach you. For he grants to unbaptized little children as much salvation and happiness as not even the Pelagian heresy could. And yet about the many thousands of little children who are born of the ungodly and die among the ungodly—not those whom people cannot aid by baptism when they would like to, but those of whose baptism no one could or can think, and for whom no one has offered or will offer the sacrifice which he decreed should be offered even for those who are not to be baptized—he has found nothing to say. If he is asked about them, what their souls deserved that God should insert them into sinful flesh, not to be washed by baptism nor expiated by the sacrifice of Christ’s body and blood, and to be damned forever, he will either stick fast altogether, and our hesitation will please him, however late, or he will decree that for all little children who die throughout the whole world without Christian baptism, even with their names unspoken, since they are unknown in the church of Christ, the body of Christ must be offered for those not incorporated into the body of Christ.

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Summary: The question of the soul’s origin remains open; Victor’s answer defames God’s nature and still cannot explain the infants of unbelievers.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: e for c): cunetatio → cunctatio.

Topics: Baptism, Eucharist, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.21 (CSEL 60:356–357; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.22CSEL 60:357

Absit a te, frater, ut haec tibi placeant, absit, ut ista uel didicisse gaudeas uel docere praesumas; alioquin longe melior inuenietur ipse quam tu, quia in exordio primi sui libri modeste atque humiliter praelocutus est dicens: cum tibi parere desidero, notam praesumtionis incurri; et paulo post: quando quidem, inquit, nec mihi ipse sim credulus ea quae dixero posse probari studeamque semper etiam propriam sententiam non tueri, si inprobabilis delegatur, et sit mihi cordi proprio damnato iudicio meliora magis et quae sint ueriora sectari. nam ut est optimi propositi laudandique consilii facile ad veriora transduci, ita inprobi obstinatique iudicii est nolle citius ad tramitem rationis inflecti. haec quippe ille si ueraciter dixit atque ut locutus est sentit, magnae profecto spei animum gerit. item in fine libri secundi: nec putes, inquit, ad inuidiam tuam forsitan reuocandum, cum in tua dictorum meorum constituam potestate iudicium. ac ne forte cuiusquam curiosi lectoris obtutus inter inlitas fibras elementorum uestigia remanentia sollicitent et offendant, contextam paginae seriem pollice seuero discerpe meque huius censionis experte puni atramenta quae indigna eloquia signauerunt, ne hac occasione et tuum erga me iudicium, quo mihi uehementer indulges, et meae quae latebant ineptiae rideantur.

Far be it from you, brother, that these things should please you; far be it that you should either rejoice to have learned them or presume to teach them. Otherwise he himself will be found far better than you, because at the beginning of his first book he spoke modestly and humbly in advance, saying: “In desiring to obey you, I have incurred the charge of presumption”; and a little later: “since I do not myself trust that what I say can be proved, and I always strive not to defend even my own opinion if it is found improbable, and it is my heart’s desire, condemning my own judgment, to follow rather the better and truer things. For as it belongs to an excellent purpose and a praiseworthy counsel to be easily brought over to truer things, so it belongs to a perverse and obstinate judgment to be unwilling to be quickly bent to the path of reason.” If he said this truly and thinks as he spoke, he certainly has a mind of great promise. Likewise at the end of the second book he says: “Nor should you think that it may perhaps reflect ill on you if I place the judgment of my words in your power. And lest perhaps the traces of letters remaining among the smeared fibres trouble and offend the gaze of some curious reader, tear apart the woven series of the page with a severe thumb, and, making me share in this judgment, punish the ink that marked unworthy words, lest on this occasion both your judgment of me, in which you indulge me so greatly, and my follies, which lay hidden, be laughed at.”

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Summary: Victor professed readiness to be corrected and asked Peter to destroy what was unworthy; Peter should not be less teachable than he.

  • The phrase “meque huius censionis experte” is unclear in the digital text; translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR garble; OCR: n for u; stray full stop; OCR: e for c): Absit a to, îratrr → Absit a te, frater; ista. uel didieisse → ista uel didicisse; potestate indicium → potestate iudicium.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.22 (CSEL 60:357; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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2.23CSEL 60:357–359

Isto igitur cum ille suos libros et initio praemuniuerit et termino communiuerit atque tuis humeris inposuerit onus religiosum correctionis et emendationis suae, hoc apud te inueniat quod petiuit, ut emendes eum iustus in misericordia et arguas eum; oleum autem peccatoris, quo inpinguetur caput eius, absit a manibus atque osculis tuis, id est assentatio indecens adulantis deceptoria lenitudo blandientis. quodsi emendare neglegis cum uideas emendandum, aduersus caritatem facis; si autem tibi emendandus propterea non uidetur, quia putas eum recte ista sensisse, aduersus ueritatem sapis. et ideo ille melior, qui emendari est paratior, si non defuerit emendator, quam tu, si uel sciens inridenter contemnis errantem uel nesciens pariter sectaris errorem. omnia itaque in eisdem libris ad te scriptis et tibi traditis sobrie uigilanterque considera, et plura quam ego inuenies fortasse culpanda. et quaecumque ibi sunt adprobanda atque laudanda, si quid in eis reuera forsitan ignorabas atque isto disserente didicisti, euidenter profitere quid illud sit, ut de hoc te gratias egisse, non de his quae illic inprobanda tam multa sunt, omnes nouerint, qui uel recitante illo tecum simul audierunt uel eosdem postea libros legerunt, ne in eius ornato eloquio tamquam in pretioso poculo te inuitante etsi non bibente uenenum bibant, si tu quid inde biberis et quid non biberis nesciunt et propter laudem tuam omnia illic bibenda salubriter arbitrantur. quamuis et audire et legere et quae dicta sunt haurire memoria quid est nisi bibere? sed praedixit dominus de fidelibus suis, quod etsi mortiferum quid biberint, non eis nocebit. ac per hoc qui eum iudicio legunt et secundum regulam fidei adprobanda adprobant et inprobant inprobanda, etiamsi commendant memoriae quae inprobanda dicuntur, nulla uenenata sententiarum prauitate laeduntur. haec me grauitatem et religionem tuam siue mutua siue praeuia caritate monuisse uel commonuisse minime paenitebit domino miserante, quomodolibet accipias, quod tibi praerogandum putaui. agam uero uberes ei gratias, de cuius misericordia saluberrimum est fidere, si ab his prauitatibus et erroribus, quos ex libris huius hominis ostendere his litteris potui, alienam atque integram fidem tuam uel inuenerit epistula ista uel fecerit.

Since, then, he has fortified his books in this way at the beginning and secured them at the end, and has laid on your shoulders the devout burden of correcting and amending him, let him find with you what he asked for: that you, a just man, correct him in mercy and reprove him; but let the oil of the sinner, with which his head might be anointed, be far from your hands and your kisses—that is, the unseemly assent of a flatterer and the deceitful smoothness of one who coaxes. If you neglect to correct him when you see he needs correction, you act against charity; but if he does not seem to you to need correction because you think he held these views rightly, you think against the truth. And so he is better, who is readier to be corrected, if a corrector is not lacking, than you, if you either knowingly and mockingly despise one who errs, or unknowingly follow the error too. So consider soberly and watchfully everything in those books written to you and handed to you, and you will perhaps find more to blame than I have. And whatever in them is to be approved and praised, if there is really something there which you perhaps did not know and learned from his discussion, declare plainly what it is, so that all may know that you gave thanks for this, and not for the many things there which are to be rejected—all who either heard him read together with you or afterward read the same books—lest in his ornate eloquence, as in a precious cup, at your invitation, even if you did not drink it, they drink poison, if they do not know what you drank from it and what you did not, and because of your praise think that everything there may be drunk wholesomely. And yet what is hearing and reading and drinking in by memory what has been said, but drinking? But the Lord foretold of his faithful that even if they drink something deadly, it will not harm them. And therefore those who read him with judgment and, according to the rule of faith, approve what is to be approved and reject what is to be rejected, even if they commit to memory what is said to be rejected, are harmed by no poisoned perversity of opinions. I shall by no means regret, by the Lord’s mercy, having admonished or reminded your gravity and devotion of these things, whether with mutual or anticipating charity, however you take what I thought I should offer you. And I will give abundant thanks to him in whose mercy it is most wholesome to trust, if this letter has found or made your faith free and whole from these perversities and errors which I have been able to show from this man’s books in this letter.

Ps 141:5 (140:5 LXX) (quotation, high confidence) · Mark 16:18 (allusion, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Peter should correct Victor, not flatter him, and state publicly what, if anything, he approved, lest readers drink error on his authority.

  • Ps 141:5 (Vulg. 140:5); Mark 16:18.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e; OCR: e for c; stray full stop): arguas cum; → arguas eum;; atque. osculis → atque osculis; earitatem → caritatem; didieisti → didicisti.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 2.23 (CSEL 60:357–359; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-2-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 3

3.1CSEL 60:359–360

Quod mihi ad te scribendum putaui, hoc prius cogites, fili dilectissime Victor, uolo, si te contemnerem, nequaquam id me fuisse facturum. nec ideo tamen humilitate nostra sic abutaris, ut propterea te existimes adprobatum, quia cernis non fuisse contemtum; non enim sequendum, sed corrigendum te diligo. et quoniam nec corrigi posse despero, nolo mireris me contemnere non posse quem diligo. si enim te, antequam nobis communicares, diligere debui, ut esses catholicus, quanto magis te iam communicantem diligere debeo, ne sis nouus hereticus et ut sis talis catholicus, cui resistere nullus possit hereticus! quantum enim adparet ex donis ingenii, quae iam tibi largitus est deus, profecto sapiens eris, si te non esse credideris, atque ut sis ab illo qui facit sapientes pie, subpliciter instanterque poposceris et malueris errore non decipi quam errantium laudibus honorari.

In what I have thought I should write to you, my dearest son Victor, I want you first to consider this: if I despised you, I would by no means have done it. Yet do not so abuse our humility as to think yourself approved because you see you have not been despised; for I love you, not to follow you, but to correct you. And since I do not despair that you can be corrected, do not be surprised that I cannot despise one whom I love. For if I ought to have loved you before you entered communion with us, so that you might become a catholic, how much more ought I to love you now that you are in communion, so that you may not be a new heretic, and so that you may be such a catholic as no heretic can resist! For, as far as appears from the gifts of mind which God has already bestowed on you, you will certainly be wise if you believe that you are not, and if you ask devoutly, humbly, and urgently to become so from him who makes the wise, and if you prefer not to be deceived by error rather than to be honoured by the praises of those who err.

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine addresses Victor himself in love, to correct him lest he become a new heretic.

  • Book 3 is addressed to Vincentius Victor.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR garble; OCR: c for e, n for u; OCR: e for c): eommunieares → communicares; nc sis nonus hereticus → ne sis nouus hereticus; largitus est detis → largitus est deus.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 3.1 (CSEL 60:359–360; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-3-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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3.2CSEL 60:360–361

Prius me in libris tuis titulus tui nominis pro te sollicitum reddidit. cum enim quis esset Vincentius Victor ab eis qui te nouerant et forte aderant requisissem, audiui te fuisse Donatistam uel potius Rogatistam, nuper autem communicasse catholicae. et cum gauderem tantum, quantum de his solemus, quos ab illo errore liberatos esse cognoscimus, immo uero etiam multo amplius, quod ingenium tuum, quo delectabar in litteris tuis, uidebam non remansisse apud aduersarios ueritatis, additum est a referentibus, quod me inter illa gaudia contristaret, ideo te cognominari uoluisse Vincentium, quod Rogati successorem, qui hoc nomine appellatus est, adhuc tamquam magnum et sanctum uirum animo teneas et ob hoc illius nomen tuum uolueris esse cognomen. nec defuerunt qui dicerent etiam hoc a te fuisse iactatum, quod ipse tibi nescio qua uisione apparuerit atque ad hos conficiendos libros, de quibus tecum agere isto nostro opusculo institui, sic adiuuerit, ut ea tibi scribenda, quantum ad res ipsas rationesque adtinet, ipse dictaret. quod si uerum est, iam te illa dicere potuisse non miror, quae, si patienter auscultes ammonitioni meae et eos libros catholica mente consideres atque pertractes, te dixisse procul dubio paenitebit: ille quippe qui se, sicut eum prodit apostolus, transfigurat in angelum lucis, in eum tibi transfiguratus est, quem tu fuisse uel esse tamquam lucis angelum credis. et eo quidem modo minus ad decipiendos catholicos ualet, quando se non in lucis angelos, sed in hereticos transfigurat; sed te ab eo falli iam catholicum nollem. crucietur ergo te didicisse quae uera sunt: quanto magis laetatus fuerat se tibi persuasisse quae falsa sunt! ut autem non diligas hominem mortuum, cuius dilectio tibi obesse potest, prodesse illi non potest, hoc breue intuearis ammoneo, quod utique ille non est sanctus et iustus, si tu hereticorum Donatistarum uel Rogatistarum laqueos euasisti; si autem illum sanctum et iustum arbitraris, tu communicando catholicis interisti. profecto enim te catholicum fingis, si animo illud es quod erat ille quem diligis. et nosti quam terribiliter scriptum sit, quod spiritus sanctus disciplinae fugiet fictum. si autem ueraciter communicans non te catholicum fingis, quid adhuc hereticum mortuum sic diligis, ut eius uelis te iactare adhuc nomine, cuius iam non teneris errore? nolumus te habere tale cognomentum, tamquam sis heretici mortui monumentum; nolumus talem titulum habere librum tuum, qualem falsum esse diceremus, si in eius sepulcro legeremus. non enim Vincentium uictorem scimus esse. sed uictum; et utinam fructuose, sicut te uinci nolumus ueritate! astute autem putaris et callide, cum libros tuos, quos credi cupis illo tibi reuelante dictatos, appellas Vincentii Victoris, non tam Vincentium te quam illum uocari noluisse Victorem, uelut tibi reuelando quae scriberes uicisset errorem. ut quid tibi ista, fili? esto potius uerus, non fictus catholicus, ne te fugiat spiritus sanctus et nihil tibi possit prodesse Vincentius. in quem se ad te fallendum transfigurauit malignissimus spiritus; eius quippe sunt illa qualibet tibi fraude persuasa. quae si ammonitus pia humilitate et catholica pace correxeris, errores fuisse iudicabuntur studiosissimi iuuenis emendari potius quam in eis remanere cupientis. si autem pro eis tibi etiam contentionem - quod absit! — persuaserit peruicacem, iam tamquam heretica dogmata cum suo necesse erit auctore damnari, cura scilicet pastorali et medicinali, priusquam per incautum uulgus serpant dira contagia, cum dilectionis non ueritate, sed nomine salubris neglegitur disciplina.

First, the heading bearing your name in your books made me anxious for you. For when I asked who Vincentius Victor was of those who knew you and happened to be present, I heard that you had been a Donatist, or rather a Rogatist, but had lately entered communion with the catholic church. And while I rejoiced as much as we usually do over those whom we know to have been freed from that error—indeed, much more, because I saw that your talent, which delighted me in your writings, had not remained with the adversaries of the truth—those who told me added something to sadden me amid that joy: that you had wished to be surnamed Vincentius because you still hold in your mind, as a great and holy man, the successor of Rogatus who was called by that name, and for this reason wished his name to be your surname. Nor were there lacking those who said that you had even boasted that he appeared to you in some vision or other and so helped you to compose these books, which I have set out to discuss with you in this little work of ours, that he dictated to you what to write as far as the matters themselves and the reasonings are concerned. If this is true, I am no longer surprised that you could say things which, if you listen patiently to my admonition and consider and examine those books with a catholic mind, you will without doubt repent of having said. For he who, as the apostle exposes him, transforms himself into an angel of light, has transformed himself for you into the one whom you believe to have been, or to be, like an angel of light. And indeed he is less able to deceive catholics when he transforms himself not into angels of light but into heretics; but I would not want you, now a catholic, to be deceived by him. Let him be tormented, then, that you have learned what is true: how much he had rejoiced to have persuaded you of what is false! And so that you may not love a dead man, love for whom can harm you and cannot profit him, I urge you to consider this briefly: that certainly he is not holy and just if you have escaped the snares of the heretical Donatists or Rogatists; but if you think him holy and just, you have perished by entering communion with catholics. For you are surely feigning to be a catholic if in your mind you are what he was whom you love. And you know how terribly it is written that the holy spirit of discipline will flee from what is feigned. But if you are truly in communion and not feigning to be a catholic, why do you still so love a dead heretic that you wish to parade yourself still by the name of one whose error no longer holds you? We do not want you to have such a surname, as though you were the monument of a dead heretic; we do not want your book to have such a heading as we would say was false if we read it on his tomb. For we know that Vincentius was not a victor but vanquished—and would that it had been fruitfully, as we wish you to be vanquished by the truth! It is thought that you were astute and cunning when you call your books, which you want believed to have been dictated to you by his revelation, those of Vincentius Victor, meaning not so much that you are called Vincentius as that he is called the Victor, as if by revealing to you what to write he had conquered error. What use are these things to you, son? Be rather a true, not a feigned, catholic, lest the Holy Spirit flee from you and Vincentius be able to profit you nothing, into whom the most malignant spirit transformed himself to deceive you; for those things of which you were persuaded by some fraud are his. If, being admonished, you correct them with devout humility and catholic peace, they will be judged to have been the errors of a most studious young man who wished to be corrected rather than to remain in them. But if he persuades you also to obstinate contention for them—God forbid!—it will then be necessary that they be condemned as heretical doctrines together with their author, by pastoral and medicinal care, before their dire contagion creeps through the unwary crowd, when wholesome discipline is neglected in the name, not in the truth, of love.

2 Cor 11:14 (quotation, high confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine warns Victor against taking the name of the dead Rogatist bishop Vincentius and trusting a vision of him, which may be Satan disguised as an angel of light.

  • Vincentius succeeded Rogatus as bishop of the Rogatist sect at Cartenna in Mauretania. 2 Cor 11:14; Wis 1:5.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: c for e; OCR: e for c; stray full stop): eatholieum → catholicum; cuasisti → euasisti; tc catholicum → te catholicum; dieeremus → diceremus; te uinei → te uinci; Vineentii → Vincentii; uoeari → uocari; quod absit.! → quod absit!.

Extrabiblical texts: Wis 1:5 (Wisdom of Solomon [in RC, EO, ETH canons]; quotation)

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Nat. orig. 3.2 (CSEL 60:360–361; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-natura-origine-animae/2-13/#p-3-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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