On Free Choice of the Will 1.1–1.8

Latin text: Migne, PL 32 (Latin text: Migne, Patrologia Latina, digitized by Open Greek and Latin (patrologia_latina-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).

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Chapter 1

1.1PL 32:1222–1223

EVODIUS: Dic mihi, quæso te, utrum Deus. non sit auctor mali? AUGUSTINUS: Dicam, si planum fcceris de quo malo quæras. Duobus enim modis ap­ pellare solemus malum: uno, cum male quemque fecisse dicimus: alio, cum mali aliquid esse perpes. v sum. E. De utroque scire cupio. A. At ei Deum bonum esse nosti vel credis, neque enim aliter fas est, male non facit: rursus, si Deum justum fatemur, nam et hoc negare sacrilegum est, ut bonis præmia, ita supplicia malis tribuit; quæ utique supplicia pa­ tientibus mala sunt. Quamobrem si ncmo injuste pcr­ nas luit. quod necesse est credamus, quandoquidem divina providentia Ine universum regi credimus, illius prin i generis malorum nullo modo, hujus autem se­ cundi auctor cst Deus. E. Est ergo alius auctor illius mali, cujus Deum non rise compertum est? A. Est certe: non enim nullo auctore fieri possel. Si antem quæris quisnam iste sil, dici non potest: non enim unus aliquis est, srd quisque malus sui malefacti auctor est. Unde si dubitas, illud atlende quod supra dictum est, malefacta justitia Dei vindicari. Non enim justc vindicarentur, nisi fierent voluntate. E. Nescio utrum quisquam peccet, qui non di­ diccrit: quod si,'crum cst, quisnam sit illc a quo peccare didicerimus, inquiro. A. Aliquid boni existi­ mas esse disciplinam? E. Quis audcat dicere malum esse disciplinam? A. Quid, si nec bonum nec malum est? E. Mihi bonum videtur. A. Bene sane; siquidem scientia ner illam datnr aut excitatur, nec quisquam nisi per disciplinam aliquid discit: an tu aliter putas? E. Ego per disciplinam non nisi bona disci arbitror. A. Vide ergo ne non discantur mala: nam disciplina, nisi a discendo non dicta est. E. Uude ergo ab ho­ mine fiunt si non discuutur? A. Eo fortasse quod se a disciplina, id est a discendo avertit atque abalienal: sed sive hoc, sive aliud aliqnid sit, illud certe mani­ festum est, quoniam disciplina bonum est, et a di­ sceudo dicta est disciplina, mala disci omnino non posse. Si enim discuntur, disciplina continentur, atque ita disciplina non erit bonum; bonum est autem, ut ipse concedis: non igitur discuntur mala, ct frustra illum a quo male facere discimus, quæris; aut si discuntur mala, vitanda non facienda discuntur. Ex quo male facere nihil est, nisi a disciplina deviare. E. Prorsus ego duas disciplinas esse puto; unam per quam bene faccre, aliam per quam male faccre discimus. Sed cum quæreres utrum disciplina bonum esset, ipsius boni amor intentionem meam rapuit, ut illam disciplinam intuerer, quae hene faciendi est, cx quo honum esse respondi: nunc autem admoneor esse aliam, quam procul dubio malum esse confirmo, et cujus auctorem requiro. A. Saltem intelligentiam non nisi bonum putas? E. Istam plane ita bonam puto, ut non videam quid in homine possit esse præstan­ tius; nec ullo modo dixcriln aliquam intelligentiam malam case posse. A. Quid? cum docetur quisque, si non intelligat, poteritne tibi doctus videri? E. Omni­ no nen poterit. A. Si ergo omnis intelligentia bona est, nec quisquam qui non intelligit, discit; omnis qui discit, bene facit: omnis enim qui discit, intelli­ git; et omnis qui intelligit, bene facit: quisquis igitur quærit auctorcm, pcr quem aliquid discimus, aucto­ rem profecto per quem bene facimus, quaerit. Qua­ propter dcsine velle investigare nescio quem malum doctorem. Si enim malus est, doctor non est: si do­ ctor est, ntalus non est.

Evodius: Tell me, please, whether God is not the author of evil? Augustine: I will tell you, if you make plain which evil you are asking about. For we usually speak of evil in two ways: in one, when we say that someone has done evil; in the other, when he has suffered something evil. E. I want to know about both. A. If you know or believe that God is good (and it is not right to think otherwise), he does not do evil. Again, if we acknowledge that God is just (and to deny this too is sacrilege), then as he assigns rewards to the good, so he assigns punishments to the wicked; and these punishments are certainly evils to those who suffer them. Therefore, if no one pays a penalty unjustly, which we must believe, since we believe that this universe is ruled by divine providence, God is in no way the author of the first kind of evil, but he is the author of the second. E. Is there, then, another author of that evil of which God has been found not to be the author? A. There certainly is, for it could not be done with no author. But if you ask who that is, it cannot be said; for it is not some one being, but each wicked person is the author of his own wrongdoing. If you doubt this, attend to what was said above: wrongdoings are punished by the justice of God. They would not be punished justly unless they were done by will. E. I do not know whether anyone sins who has not learned to sin. If that is true, I ask who it is from whom we have learned to sin. A. Do you think learning is something good? E. Who would dare to say that learning is evil? A. What if it is neither good nor evil? E. It seems good to me. A. Quite right, since knowledge is given or awakened through it, and no one learns anything except through learning. Or do you think otherwise? E. I think that through learning only good things are learned. A. See, then, whether evil things are not learned at all; for “learning” (disciplina) takes its name from nothing but “to learn” (discere). E. Then where do evil deeds come from in a human being, if they are not learned? A. Perhaps from this, that he turns himself away and estranges himself from learning, that is, from learning anything. But whether it is this or something else, this at least is clear: since learning is good, and learning is named from learning, evil things cannot be learned at all. For if they are learned, they are contained in learning, and so learning will not be a good; but it is a good, as you yourself grant. So evil things are not learned, and you seek in vain the one from whom we learn to do evil; or, if evil things are learned, they are learned in order to be avoided, not to be done. Hence to do evil is nothing but to stray from learning. E. I really think there are two kinds of learning: one by which we learn to do well, another by which we learn to do evil. But when you asked whether learning was a good, the love of the good itself carried off my attention, so that I looked at the learning that belongs to doing well, and so I answered that it was good. Now I am reminded that there is another, which I affirm without any doubt to be evil, and whose author I am looking for. A. At least you think that understanding is nothing but good? E. I think it so good that I do not see what could be more excellent in a human being; and I would in no way say that any understanding can be evil. A. Well then, when someone is taught, if he does not understand, could he seem to you to have learned? E. Not at all. A. If, then, all understanding is good, and no one learns who does not understand, everyone who learns does well. For everyone who learns understands, and everyone who understands does well. So whoever seeks the author through whom we learn something is surely seeking the author through whom we do well. Stop wanting, then, to search out some evil teacher or other. For if he is evil, he is not a teacher; if he is a teacher, he is not evil.

Notes and citation

Summary: Evodius asks whether God is the author of evil; Augustine distinguishes evil done from evil suffered and argues that evil cannot be learned, since learning and understanding are good.

  • The play on disciplina (learning, teaching) and discere (to learn) cannot be kept fully in English.
  • The Migne OCR is noisy; clear letter slips are translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR capitalization slip in the speaker's name; OCR slip; OCR slip (mibi for mihi)): AuGUSTINUS → AUGUSTINUS; Dic mibi → Dic mihi; nespio quem → nescio quem.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.1 (PL 32:1222–1223; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.2PL 32:1223

E. Agc jam, quoniam satis cogis ut fatcar non nos discere niale facere, dic mihi unde malc facia. mus. A. Eam quæstionem movcs, quæ me admodum adolescentem vehementer exercuit, et fatigatum in hæreticos impulit, atque dejecit. Quo casu ita sum afflictus, et tantis obrutus acervis inanium fabularum, ut nisi mihi amor inveniendi veri opem divinam im­ petravisset, emergere inde, atque in Ipsam primam quærendi libertatem respirare non possem. Et quo­ niam mecum sedulo actum cst, ut ista quæstione li­ bcrarcr, co tecum agam ordine quem secutus evasi. Adrit enim Deus, et nos intelligere quod credidimus, faciet. Præscriptum cnim per prophetam gradum, qui ait, Nisi credideritis, non intelligelis,tenere nos,bene nobis conscii sumus. Credimus autem ex uno Deo omnia csse qua sunt; et tamen non esse peccatorum auctorem Deum. Movetautem ac!­ mum, si peccata ex iis animabus sunt quas Deus crea­ vit, ilhc au!cm animae ex Deo, quomodo non parvo intervallo peccata referantur in Deum. E. Id nunc plane abs te dictum cst, quod me cogitantem satis excruciat, et quod ad istam inquisi­ tionem cocgil ct traxit. A. Virili animo esto, ct credo quod credis: nihil enim croditur melius, etiamsi causa latcat cur ita sit. Oplimc namque de Deo existi­ mare verissimum est pietatis exordium; nee quisquam de illo optime existimat, qui non cum omnipotentem, atque ex nulla particula commutabilem credit; bono­ rum ctiam omnium creatorem, quibus est ipse præ­ stantior; rectorem quoque justissimum comm omnium quæ creavit; nec ulla adjutum esse natura in crean­ do, quasi qui non sibi sufficeret. Ex quo fit ut de nihilo creaverit omnia; de se autem non creaverit, sed gcnuerit quod sibi par esset, quem Filium Dei unicum dicimus, quem cum planius enuntiare cona­ mur, Dei Virtutem ct Dei Sapientiam nominamus, per quam fecit omnia, quæ de nihilo facta sunt. Quibus constitutis, ad inlelligentiam ejus rei quam requiris, opitulante Deo, nitamur hoc modo.

E. Come now, since you press me hard enough to admit that we do not learn to do evil, tell me where our doing evil comes from. A. You raise the question that troubled me intensely when I was quite young, wore me out, drove me into the company of heretics, and threw me down. I was so wounded by that fall, and buried under such heaps of empty fables, that if my love of finding the truth had not won me God's help, I could not have come up out of it and breathed again in that first freedom of inquiry. And since great pains were taken with me to free me from this question, I will deal with you in the same order that I followed in my escape. For God will be with us and will make us understand what we have believed. We are well aware that we are holding to the step prescribed by the prophet, who says, “Unless you believe, you will not understand.” Now we believe that all things that exist are from the one God, and yet that God is not the author of sins. But the mind is troubled: if sins come from the souls that God created, and those souls come from God, how are sins not, at a short remove, referred back to God? E. You have now said plainly what torments me enough when I think about it, and what has driven and dragged me into this inquiry. A. Be of manly spirit, and believe what you believe; for nothing is believed better, even if the reason why it is so is hidden. To think of God in the best way is the truest beginning of piety; and no one thinks of him in the best way who does not believe him almighty and unchangeable in any least part; the creator also of all good things, he himself being more excellent than they; the most just ruler, too, of all that he created; and that he was helped by no nature in creating, as if he were not sufficient for himself. From this it follows that he created all things from nothing; but from himself he did not create but begot what would be equal to himself, whom we call the only Son of God, whom, when we try to express him more plainly, we name the Power of God and the Wisdom of God, through whom he made all things that were made from nothing. With these points settled, let us strive with God's help toward an understanding of the matter you ask about, in this way.

Isa 7:9 (quotation, high confidence) · 1 Cor 1:24 (allusion, high confidence) · John 1:3 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine recalls that this question drove him to the Manichaeans and sets out the faith from which the inquiry starts: one good, almighty Creator, who is not the author of sin, and his begotten Son.

  • Isa 7:9 is quoted in the Old Latin form that follows the Greek Septuagint (“unless you believe, you will not understand”); the Hebrew reads “you will not be established.”
  • “The heretics” are the Manichaeans, whom Augustine followed in his youth.
  • The OCR reads “Den esse peccatorum auctorem Dcum”; the sense and the argument require “non esse … Deum” (“that God is not the author of sins”), corrected here.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip (rat for est); OCR slips; the negative is required by the sense and the following question): et tamen Den esse peccatorum auctorem Dcum → et tamen non esse peccatorum auctorem Deum; verissimum rat pietatis → verissimum est pietatis.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.2 (PL 32:1223; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.3PL 32:1223–1225

Qua'ris certe uude malc faciamus: prius ergo discutiendum est qnid sit male facere; qua de re tibi quid vidcatur exprome. Quod si non potes totum si­ mul brevitcr verbis comprehendere, saltem particu­ latim malefacta ipsa commemorando, sententiam tuam notam fac milii. E. Adulteria et homicidia et sacrilegia, ut omittam cætera, quibus enumeradis vel tempus vel memuria non suppetit, quis est cui non male facta vidcantur? A. Dic clio prius, cur adulterium male fieri putes; an quia id facere lex vetat? E. Non sane ideo malum est, quia vetatur lege; sed ideo vetatur lege, quia malum est. A. Quid, si quispiam nos exagitet, exaggerans delectationes adulterii, et quxrens a nobis cur hoc malum et da­ mnatione dignum judicemus; num ad auctoritatem legis confugicndum censes hominibus, jam non tan­ tum credere, sed intelligcre cupientibus? Nam et ego tecum credo, et inconcusse credo, omnibusque popu­ iis atque gentibus credendum esse ciamo, malum esse adulterium: sed nunc molimur id quod in fidem recepimus, etiam intelligendo scire ac tenere firmis­ simum. Considera itaque quantum potcs, et renuntia mihi, quanam ratione adulterium malum esse cogno­ veris. E. Hoc scio malum esse, quod hoc,ipse in uxore mea pati nollem: quisquis autem alteri facit quod sibi fieri non vull, male utique facit. A. Quid, si cujuspiam libido ca sit, ut uxorem suam præbeat alteri, liben­ terque ab eo corrumpi patiatur, in cujus uxorem vicis­ sim parem cupit habere licentiam? nihilne mali facere tibi vidctur? E. Imo plurimum. A. At iste non illa regula peccat: non enim id facit quod pali nolit. Quamobrem aliud tibi quærendum cst, unde malum esse adulterium convincas. E. Eo mihi vidctur malum, quod hujus criminis homines vidi sæpe damnari. A. Quid. propter recte facta nonne homines plerumque damnati sunt? Reccn. se historiam, ne te ad alios libros mittam, cam ipsam quæ divina auctoritate præcellit; jam invenies quam male de Apostolis ct de omnibus martyribus sentia­ mus, si placet nobis damnationem certum indicium esse malefacti, cum illi omnes damnatione digni pro­ pter confessionem suam judicati sint. Quamobrem si quidquid damnatur malum est, malum crat illo tem­ pore credere in Christum, et ipsam confiteri fidcin: si autem non omne malum est quod damnatur, quære aliud unde adulterium malum esse doceas E. Quid tibi respondeam non invenio. A. Fortassis ergo libido in adulterio malum est: sed dum tu foris in ipso facto quod jam vidcri potest, malum quæris, pateris angustias. Nam ut intelligas libidinem in adulterio malum esse, si cui etiam non contingat facultas concumbendi cnm conjuge aliena, planum tamen aliquo modo sit id cum cupere, ct si potestas detur facturum esse, non minus reus est, quam si in ipso facto deprehenderetur. E. Nihil est omnino manifestius, ct jam video non opus esse lon­ ga sermocinatione, ut mihi de homicidio et sacrilegio, ac prorsus de omnibus peccatis persuadeatur. Clarum est enim jam nihil aliud quam libidincm in toto ma­ lefaicndi genere dominari.

A. You are asking, of course, where our doing evil comes from; so first we must examine what doing evil is. Tell me what you think about it. If you cannot take in the whole briefly in words at once, at least make your view known to me by listing the evil deeds themselves one by one. E. Adulteries and murders and sacrileges, to leave out the rest, for the listing of which neither time nor memory suffices: who is there to whom these do not seem evil deeds? A. Tell me first, then, why you think adultery is an evil deed. Is it because the law forbids doing it? E. Surely it is not evil because it is forbidden by law; it is forbidden by law because it is evil. A. What if someone harasses us, magnifying the pleasures of adultery and asking us why we judge it evil and worthy of condemnation? Do you think that people who now desire not only to believe but to understand must take refuge in the authority of the law? For I too believe with you, and believe unshakably, and I proclaim that all peoples and nations must believe, that adultery is evil; but now we are striving to know by understanding, and to hold most firmly, what we have received in faith. So consider as well as you can, and report to me by what reasoning you have come to know that adultery is evil. E. I know that it is evil because I would not want to suffer it myself in the case of my own wife; and whoever does to another what he does not want done to himself certainly does evil. A. What if someone's lust is such that he offers his wife to another and willingly allows her to be corrupted by him, desiring in turn to have equal license with that man's wife? Does he seem to you to do nothing evil? E. On the contrary, a great deal. A. But he does not sin by that rule, for he is not doing what he would not want to suffer. So you must look for something else by which to prove that adultery is evil. E. It seems evil to me because I have often seen people condemned for this crime. A. What? Have not people very often been condemned for right actions? Review history (not to send you to other books, take the very history that excels by divine authority), and you will find how badly we would think of the apostles and of all the martyrs, if we choose to take condemnation as a sure sign of wrongdoing, since all of them were judged worthy of condemnation because of their confession. So if whatever is condemned is evil, it was evil at that time to believe in Christ and to confess that faith; but if not everything that is condemned is evil, look for something else by which to show that adultery is evil. E. I cannot find what to answer you. A. Perhaps, then, lust is the evil in adultery. But as long as you look for the evil outside, in the act itself that can be seen, you are in difficulties. To help you understand that lust is the evil in adultery: if someone has no opportunity of lying with another man's wife, but it is somehow plain that he desires it and would do it if he had the power, he is no less guilty than if he were caught in the act itself. E. Nothing is more evident; and I see now that there is no need of a long conversation to convince me about murder and sacrilege and indeed about all sins. For it is now clear that nothing else but lust rules in every kind of wrongdoing.

Matt 7:12 (echo, low confidence) · Matt 5:28 (allusion, medium confidence)

Notes and citation

Summary: Testing why adultery is evil, Augustine rejects the law, the golden rule, and condemnation by courts as the reason and locates the evil in lust (libido), which makes even the unfulfilled desire guilty.

  • Libido is rendered “lust” throughout this book; Augustine defines it at the end of 1.4 as love of things one can lose against one's will.
  • Evodius's rule echoes the golden rule (Matt 7:12, in its negative form); the guilt of unfulfilled desire recalls Matt 5:28.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip (ced for sed)): ced dum tu foris → sed dum tu foris.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.3 (PL 32:1223–1225; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.4PL 32:1225–1227

A. Scisne cHam istam libidinem alio nomine cu­ pklidatem vocari? E. Scio. A. Quid? inter hanc et mctum nihilne interesse, an aliquid putas? E. Imo plurimum hæc ab invicem dislare arbitror. A. Credo te ob hoc arbitrari, quia cupiditas appetit, metus fu­ gil. E. Est ita ut diris. A. Quid si crgo quispiam non cupiditate adipiscendæ alicujus rei, sed metuens nc quid ei mali accidat, hominem occidcrit? num homi­ eida iste non erit? E. Erit quidem, sud non ideo fa­ ctum hoc cupiditatis dominatu caret: nam qui me­ tuens hominem occidit, cupit utique sine metu vivere. A. Et parvum tibi videtur bonum sine metu vivere? E. Magnum bonum est, sed hoc illi homicidæ por fa­ cinus suum provenire nullo modo potest. A. Non quæro quid ci provenire possit, sed quid ipse cupiat. certe cnim bonum cupit, qui cupit vitam mctu libe­ ram; ci idcirco ista cupiditas culpanda non est; alio­ quin omnes culpabimus amatores boni. Proinde co­ gimur fateri esse homicidium, in quo nequeat malæ illius cupiditatis dominatio reperiri; falsumque erit illud, quod in omnibus peccatis ut mala sint, libido dominatur; aut crit aliquod homicidium, quod pos­ sit non esse peccatum. E. Si homicidium est homi­ nem occidere, potest accidere aliqnando sine peccato: nam ct miles hostem, et judex vel minister ejus no­ centem, et cui forte invito atque imprudenti telum manu fugit, non mihi videntur peccare, cum homi­ nem occidunt. A. Assentior: sed homicidae isti appel­ lari non solent. Responde itaque, utrum illum qui do. minum occidit, a quo sibi metucbat cruciatus graves, in eorum numcro habendum existimes, qui sic homi­ nem occidunt, ut ne homicidarum quidem nomine digni sint? E. Longe ab eis istum differre video: nam illi vel ex legibus faciunt, vel non contra leges; hu­ jus autem facinus nulla lex approbat. A. Rursus me ad auctoritatem revocas: sed meminisse te oportet id nunc a nobis esse susceptum, ut intelligamus quod credimus; legibus autcm credi­ mus: tentandum itaque est, si quo modo possumus id ipsum intelligere, utrum jex quae punit hoc factum, non perperam puniat. E. Nullo modo perperam pu­ nit, quandoquidem punit eum qui volens et sciens do­ minum necat, quod nullus istorum. A. Ecquid, recor­ daris te paulo ante dixisse, in omni facto malo libidinem dominari, et eo ipso malum esse? E. Recordor sane. A. Quid? illud nonne idem tu.conces­ sisti, eum qui cupit sine metu vivere, non habere ma­ lara cupiditatem? E. Et hoc recordor. A. Cum ergo ista cupiditate a servo dominus interimitur, non illa culpabili cupiditate interimitur. Quamobrem cur sit hoc facinus malum, nondum comperimus. Convenit cnim inter nos omnia malefacta non ob aliud mab esse, nisi quod libidine, id est improbanda cupiditate, fiuut. E. Jam mihi videtur injuria istedamnari: quod quidem non auderem dicere, si aliud haberem quod dicerem. A. Itane prius tibi persuasisti tantum scelus impunitum esse oportere, quam c sideraros utrum ille servus propter satiandas libidines suas metu do­ mini carere cupiverit? Cupcre namque sine metu vi­ vere, non tantum bonorum, sed eliam malorum omnium est: verum hoc interest, quod id boni ap­ petunt avertendo amorcm ab iit rebus, quas sine amit­ tendi periculo ncqueunt haberi; mali autem ut his frucndis cum securitate incubent, removere impedi­ menta conantur, et propterca facinorosam scelera. tamque vitam, quæ mors mclius vocatur, gerunt. E. Resipisco, et admodum gaudeo jam Ine plane cogno­ visse quid sit etiam illa culpabilis cupiditas, quæ libi­ do nominatur. Quam esse jam apparet carum rerum amorem, quas potest quisque invitus amittere.

A. Do you know that this lust is also called by another name, desire (cupiditas)? E. I know. A. Well, do you think there is no difference between it and fear, or some difference? E. On the contrary, I think they are very far apart. A. I suppose you think so because desire seeks and fear flees. E. It is as you say. A. What, then, if someone kills a man not from desire to obtain something, but fearing that some evil may befall him? Will he not be a murderer? E. He will; but that does not mean this act is free of the dominion of desire, for one who kills a man out of fear certainly desires to live without fear. A. And does living without fear seem a small good to you? E. It is a great good, but it can in no way come to that murderer through his crime. A. I am not asking what can come to him, but what he himself desires. Surely one who desires a life free from fear desires a good, and so that desire is not to be blamed; otherwise we shall blame all lovers of the good. So we are forced to admit that there is a murder in which the dominion of that evil desire cannot be found; and then it will be false that in all sins lust rules, so that they are evil; or else there will be some murder that can be no sin. E. If murder is killing a man, it can happen sometimes without sin. A soldier who kills an enemy, a judge or his officer who kills a guilty man, and one from whose hand a weapon slips, perhaps against his will and unawares: these do not seem to me to sin when they kill a man. A. I agree; but these are not usually called murderers. Answer, then, whether you think that a slave who has killed his master, from whom he feared severe tortures, should be counted among those who kill a man in such a way that they do not even deserve the name of murderers. E. I see that he differs greatly from them: they act either according to the laws or not against the laws, but no law approves his deed. A. Again you call me back to authority. But you should remember that what we have now undertaken is to understand what we believe. We believe the laws; so we must try, if we can in any way, to understand this very point: whether the law that punishes this deed does not punish it wrongly. E. It in no way punishes wrongly, since it punishes one who kills his master willingly and knowingly, which none of those others does. A. Well, do you remember saying a little earlier that in every evil act lust rules, and that it is evil for that very reason? E. I certainly remember. A. And did you not also grant that one who desires to live without fear does not have an evil desire? E. I remember that too. A. When, then, a master is killed by his slave from that desire, he is not killed from that blameworthy desire. So we have not yet found why this crime is evil. For we agreed that all evil deeds are evil for no other reason than that they are done from lust, that is, from a desire that deserves disapproval. E. Now it seems to me that he is condemned unjustly, which I would not dare to say if I had anything else to say. A. Have you persuaded yourself that so great a crime ought to go unpunished before considering whether that slave desired to be free from fear of his master in order to satisfy his own lusts? For to desire to live without fear belongs not only to all the good but also to all the wicked. The difference is this: the good seek it by turning their love away from things that cannot be possessed without the danger of losing them; the wicked, in order to settle down securely in the enjoyment of these things, try to remove what stands in the way, and so lead a criminal and wicked life, which is better called death. E. I come to my senses, and I am very glad that I have now plainly learned what that blameworthy desire is which is called lust. It now appears to be the love of those things that anyone can lose against his will.

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Summary: Through the case of a slave who kills his master from fear, Augustine and Evodius define blameworthy lust as the love of things that one can lose against one's will.

  • The killings by soldier, judge, and accident are Evodius's examples; the dialogue treats them as cases not usually called murder.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (stray mark (footnote sign) in the digital text): non esse peccatum '. E. → non esse peccatum. E..

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.4 (PL 32:1225–1227; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-4). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.5PL 32:1227

Qnare nunc, age, quæramus, si placet, utrum cHam in sacrilegiis libido dominetur, quæ vidcmus plura superstitione Committi. A. Vide ne præprope­ rum sit: prius enim mihi discutiendum videtur utrum vel hostis irruens, Vel insidiator sicarius, sive pro vita, sive pro libertate, sive pro pudicitia, sine ulla interficiatur libidine. E. Quomodo possum arbitrari carere istos libidinp, qui pro iis rebus digladiantur, quas possunt amittere inviti: aut si non possunt, quid opus cst pro liis usque ad hominis necem pro­ gredi? A. Non ergo lex justa est, quæ dat potesta­ tcm vcl viatori ut latronem, ne ab eo ipse occidatur, occidat; vcl cuipiam viro aut feminæ ut violenter si. hi stupratorem irruentem ante illatum stuprum, si possit, interimat. Nam militi cHam jubetur lege, ut nostem necet: a qua cæde si temperaverit, ab impc­ ratore pœnas luit. Num istas leges injustas, vcl potius nullas dicere audebimus? Nam mibi lex esse non vi­ detur, quæ justa non fuerit. E. Legem quidem satis video esse munitam contra hujuscemodi accusationem, quæ in co populo quem regit, minoribus malcfacLis ne majora commit­ terentur, dcdit licentiam. Multo est enim mitius eum qni alienæ vitæ insidiatur, quam eum qui suam tue­ tur, occidi. Et muito est immanius invitum hominem stuprum perpeti, quam cum a quo vis illa infertur, ab co cui inferre cOnatur, interimi. Jam vero miles in hoste interficiendo minister cst legis; quare officium suum facile nulla libidine implevit. Porro Ipsa lex, quæ tuendi populi causa lata est, nullius libidinis ar­ gui potest. Siquidem ille qui tulit, bi Dei jussu tulit, id est quod præcepit æterna justitia, expers omnino libidinis id agere potuit: si autem ille cum aliqua Hbidinc hoc statuit, non cx co fit ut ei legi cum libi­ dinc obtemperare nccessc sit; quia bona lex et a non bono ferri potest. Non 'enim si quis, verbi causa, ty­ rannicam potestatem nactus, ab aliquo cui hoc con­ ducit, pretium accipiat, at statuat nulli licere vcl ad conjugium feminam rapicre, propterea mala lex erit, quia ille iujustus atque corruptus hanc tulit. Potest ergo illi lcgi quæ tuendorum civium causa vim ho­ stilcm cadem vi repelli jubet, sinc libidine obtempe­ rari: ct de omnibus ministris, qui jure atque ordine potestatibus quibusque subjecti sunt, id dici potest. Sed illi homines lege inculpata, quomodo inculpati queant esse, uon video: non enim lex. cos cogi: occi­ dcre, sed relinquit in potestate. Liberum eis itaque est nominem necare pro iis rcbus quas inviti possunt amittere, ct ob hoc amare non debent. De vita enim fortasse cuipiam sit dubium, utrum animæ nullo pa­ Cto a uferatur, dum hocicorpus interimitur: sed si an­ ferri potest, contemnenila est; si i.on potest, nihil metuendum. De pudicitia vcro quis dubitaverit, quin ea sit in ipso animo coAstituta, quandoquidem virtus est? unde a violento stupratore eripi nee ipsa potest. Quidquid igitur erepturus erat ille qui occiditur, id totum in potestate nostra non est: quare quemad­ modum nostrum appellandum sit, nou intelligo. Qua­ propter lcgem quidem non reprehendo, quæ tales permittit interfici; sed quo pacto istos defendam qui interficiunt, non invenio. A. Multo minus ego invenire possum, cur hominibus defensionem quæras, quos reos nulla lex tenet. E. Nulla fortasse, sed carum lcgum quæ appa­ rent, ct ab hominibus leguntur: nam nescio utrum non aliqua vehementiore ac secretissima lege teneantur, si nihil rerum est quod non administret divina provi­ dentia. Quomodo enim apud cam sunt isti peccato liberi, qui pro iis rebus quas contemni oportet, hn­ mana cæde polluti sunt? Videtur ergo mihi et legem istam, quæ populo regendo scribitur, recte ista per­ mittere, ct divinam providentiam vindicare. Ea enim vindicanda sibi hæc lex populi assumit, quæ satis sint conciliandæ paci hominibus imperitis, et quanta pos­ sunt per hominem regi. Illæ vero culp;e alias poenas aptas habent, a quibus sola mihi vidctur posse libe­ rare sapientia. A. Laudo ct probo istam, quamvis inchoatam minusque perfectam, tamen fidentem ct sublimia quædam petentem distinctionem tuam. Vi­ detur enim tibi lex. ista, qu;c regendis civitatibus fertur, multa concedere atque impunita rclinqucrc, quæ per divinam tamen providentiam vindicanlur; et recte. Neque cnim quia non omnia facil, idco qu;c facit improbanda -. sunt.

E. So now, come, let us ask, if you please, whether lust also rules in sacrileges, many of which we see committed through superstition. A. See that this is not too hasty. First, I think, we must examine whether an attacking enemy, or an assassin lying in wait, is killed without any lust, whether in defense of life, of liberty, or of chastity. E. How can I think that those are free of lust who fight with the sword for things they can lose against their will? Or, if they cannot lose them, what need is there to go as far as killing a man for them? A. Then the law is not just that gives a traveler the power to kill a robber so as not to be killed by him, or gives any man or woman the power to kill, if possible, a violator who attacks them with force, before the violation is done. For the soldier too is commanded by law to kill the enemy, and if he refrains from that killing he is punished by his commander. Shall we dare to call those laws unjust, or rather no laws at all? For to me a law that is not just does not seem to be a law. E. I see well enough that the law is protected against an accusation of this kind, since among the people it governs it has granted license to lesser wrongs to prevent greater ones being committed. For it is much milder that one who plots against another's life be killed than one who defends his own. And it is much more monstrous that a person should suffer violation against his will than that the one who inflicts that violence should be killed by the one on whom he tries to inflict it. As for the soldier, in killing the enemy he is a servant of the law; so he easily fulfills his duty without any lust. Further, the law itself, which was enacted to protect the people, cannot be charged with any lust. For if he who enacted it did so at God's command, that is, by what eternal justice commands, he could do it wholly free of lust; and if he made this decree with some lust, it does not follow that one must obey that law with lust, since a good law can be enacted even by one who is not good. If, say, someone who has seized tyrannical power takes a price from someone whom it profits, and decrees that no one may carry off a woman by force, even for marriage, that law will not be bad because an unjust and corrupt man enacted it. So the law that commands that hostile force be repelled by the same force, to protect the citizens, can be obeyed without lust; and the same can be said of all officers who are subject, rightly and in due order, to any authorities. But how those other men can be blameless, even though the law is blameless, I do not see. For the law does not compel them to kill; it leaves it in their power. They are free, then, to kill no one for things that they can lose against their will, and which for that reason they ought not to love. As for life, someone may perhaps doubt whether it is in no way taken from the soul when this body is killed; but if it can be taken away, it should be despised; if it cannot, there is nothing to fear. As for chastity, who would doubt that it is located in the mind itself, since it is a virtue? So it cannot be snatched away even by a violent violator. Whatever, then, the man who is killed was going to snatch away is not wholly in our power; so I do not understand how it is to be called ours. Therefore I do not blame the law that permits such men to be killed; but how to defend those who kill them I cannot find. A. Much less can I find why you seek a defense for men whom no law holds guilty. E. No law, perhaps, of those laws that are visible and read by men. For I do not know whether they are not held by some stronger and most hidden law, if there is nothing that divine providence does not govern. For how are they free of sin before it, who are polluted with human blood for the sake of things that ought to be despised? It seems to me, then, that this law written for governing a people rightly permits these things, and that divine providence punishes them. For this law of the people takes upon itself the punishment of as much as is enough to maintain peace among unlearned people, and as much as can be governed by man. Those faults have other, fitting penalties, from which, it seems to me, wisdom alone can set us free. A. I praise and approve this distinction of yours, which, though only begun and not perfect, is yet confident and reaches toward lofty things. For you think that this law enacted for governing cities concedes and leaves unpunished many things that are nevertheless punished by divine providence; and rightly. For it does not follow that, because it does not do everything, what it does should be disapproved.

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Summary: Evodius argues that human law rightly permits killing in self-defense and war to prevent greater evils, yet doubts that those who kill for perishable goods are free of sin before divine providence; Augustine approves the distinction between human law and divine punishment.

  • The view that killing an attacker for the sake of perishable goods is not free of sin is Evodius's; Augustine praises the distinction without settling the case here.
  • Stuprum and stuprator are rendered “violation” and “violator” (rape) in this passage.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne paragraph number (13) and stray letter leaked into the text; OCR slip (split and garbled word); stray mark (footnote sign) in the digital text): A '. Non ergo → A. Non ergo; i3. A. Multo minus I ego → A. Multo minus ego; quomodolm ulpati → quomodo inculpati.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.5 (PL 32:1227; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-5). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.6PL 32:1227–1229

Sed dispiciamus diligenter, si placet, quo usque pcr legem istam quin populos in hac vita cohibet, ma­ lefacta ulciscenda sint: deinde quid restet, quod por divinam providentiam inevitabilius secretoque punia­ tur. E. Cupio, si modo perveniri possit ad tantæ rei terminos: nam hoc ego infinitum puto. A. Imo ad­ esto animo, ct rationis vias pietate fretus ingredere. Nihil est enim tam arduum atque difficile, quod non Dco adjuvante planissimum atque expeditissimum fiat. In ipsum itaque suspensi atque ab co auxilium deprecantes quod insiiluimus, quæramus. Et prius responde mihi, utrum ista lex quæ litteris promulga­ tur, hominibus hanc vitam viventibus opituletur. E. Manifestum cst: nam et his hominibus utique populi civitatesque consistunt. A. Quid7 ipsi homines clpo­ puli, ejusdemne gencris, rcrum sunt, ut interire mu­ tarivc non possit, æternique omnino sint? an vero mutabiles temporibusque subjecli sunt? E. Mutabile plane at que tempori obnoxiwm hoc genus esse quis dubitet? A. Ergo, si populus sit boue moderatus et gravis, communisque utilitatis diligentissimus custos, in quo unusqnisque minoris rcm privatan quam pu­ hlicain pondat; nonnc recte lex fertur, qua huic ip i populo liciat creare sibi magistratus, per quos sua rcs, id est publica, administretur? E. Recte prorsus. A. porro si paulatim depravatus idem populus rem privatam rei publicae præferat, atque habeat vcnale sulTragium, corruptusque ab eis qui honores amant, rcgimcn in se flagitiosis consceleratisque committat; nonne item recte, si quis tunc exstiterit vir bonus, qui plurimum possit, adimat huic populo potestatem dandi honores, et in paucorum bonorum, vel etiam unius rcdigat arbitrium? E. Et id recte. A. Cum ergo duæ istæ leges ita sibi videantur esse contrariæ, ut una carum honorum dandorum populo tribuat pote­ statem, auferat altera; ct cum ista secunda ita lata sit, ut nullo modo ambæ in una civitate simul esse pos­ sint; num dicemus aliquam carum injustam esse, et ferri minime debuisse? E. Nullo modo. A. Appelle­ mus crgo istam legem, si placet, temporalem, quae quanquam justa sit, commutari tamen per tempora justc potest. E. Appellamus. A. Quid? illa lex quæ summa ratio nominatur, cui semper obtemperandum est, et per quam mali miseram, boni bcalam vitam merentur, per quam de­ nique illa quam temporalem vocandam diximus, recte fertur, recteque mntatur, potestne cuipiam intelligenti non incommutabilis æternaque vidcri? An potest ali­ quando injustum esse ut mali miseri, boni autem beati sint; aut ut modestus et gravis populus ipse sibi ma­ gistratus creet,dissolutus vero ct nequam ista licentia carcat? E. Video hanc æternam esse atquc incommu­ tabilem legcm. A. Simul etiam te videre arbitror in illa temporali nihil esse justum atque legitimum, quod non ex hac æterna sibi homines derivarint: nam si populus ille quodam tempore juste honores didit, quodam rursus juste non dedit; hæc vicis­ situdo temporalis ut justa esset, ex illa xternitate tracta cst. qua semper justum est gravem populum honoresdare, levem non dare: an tibi aliter videtur? E. Assentior. A. Ut igitur breviter æternæ legis no­ tionem, quæ impressa nobis est, quantum valeo verbis explicem, ea est qua justum est ut omnia sint ordi­ natissima: tu si aliter existimas, prome. E. Quid tibi vera dicenti contradicam non habeo. A. Cum ergo haec sit una lex, ex qua illæ omnes temporales ad homines regendos variantur, num ideo ipsa variari ullo modo potest? E. Intelligo omnino non posse: neque enim ulla vis, ullus casus, ulla rerum labes unquam effece­ rit ut justum non sit omnia esse ordinatissima.

A. But let us examine carefully, if you please, how far wrongdoings are to be punished by this law that restrains peoples in this life; and then what remains to be punished more inescapably and secretly by divine providence. E. I want to, if only one can reach the limits of so great a matter; for I think it is endless. A. On the contrary, take heart, and enter the paths of reason relying on piety. For nothing is so steep and difficult that it does not become very plain and easy with God's help. So, depending on him and begging his help, let us pursue what we have begun. And first answer me whether this law that is promulgated in writing helps people living this life. E. That is evident; for it is of these people, after all, that peoples and cities consist. A. Well, are these people and peoples of a kind of thing that cannot perish or change and is wholly eternal? Or are they changeable and subject to time? E. Who would doubt that this kind is plainly changeable and subject to time? A. So, if a people is well balanced and serious, and a most careful guardian of the common good, in which each person values his private affairs less than the public, is not a law rightly enacted by which this people is allowed to create its own magistrates, through whom its affairs, that is, the public affairs, are administered? E. Quite rightly. A. Further, if this same people, gradually corrupted, prefers private affairs to the public, holds its vote for sale, and, corrupted by those who love office, entrusts the government of itself to the vicious and criminal, would it not likewise be right that, if some good man of great power should then arise, he should take from this people the power to confer offices and bring it under the decision of a few good men, or even of one? E. That too is right. A. Since, then, these two laws seem so contrary that one gives the people the power to confer offices and the other takes it away, and since the second is enacted in such a way that the two can in no way exist at once in one city, shall we say that one of them is unjust and should never have been enacted? E. By no means. A. Let us call this law, then, if you please, temporal, since although it is just, it can justly be changed in the course of time. E. Let us call it so. A. Well, that law which is called the supreme reason, which must always be obeyed, by which the wicked deserve a miserable life and the good a happy one, and by which, finally, the law we said should be called temporal is rightly enacted and rightly changed: can it seem to anyone who understands to be anything but unchangeable and eternal? Or can it ever be unjust that the wicked be miserable and the good happy, or that a moderate and serious people create magistrates for itself, while a dissolute and worthless one lacks that license? E. I see that this law is eternal and unchangeable. A. I think you also see at the same time that in that temporal law there is nothing just and lawful that people have not derived for themselves from this eternal law. For if that people at one time justly conferred offices and at another time justly did not, this change over time, in order to be just, was drawn from that eternity by which it is always just for a serious people to confer offices and for a frivolous one not to. Or do you think otherwise? E. I agree. A. So, to explain briefly in words, as well as I can, the notion of the eternal law that is impressed upon us: it is the law by which it is just that all things be most perfectly ordered. If you think otherwise, say so. E. I have nothing to say against you when you speak the truth. A. Since, then, this is the one law from which all those temporal laws for governing people take their variations, can it itself therefore vary in any way? E. I understand that it absolutely cannot; for no force, no chance, no collapse of things could ever bring it about that it is not just for all things to be most perfectly ordered.

Notes and citation

Summary: Augustine distinguishes temporal law, which can justly change with the condition of a people, from the eternal law, the supreme reason by which it is just that all things be perfectly ordered.

  • “Supreme reason” (summa ratio) echoes Cicero's definition of law (Laws 1.18); the identification is general, not a quotation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne paragraph number (15) leaked into the text; OCR slip in the speaker mark; OCR slips in the speaker mark and a split word): I!:. Cupio, sinodo → E. Cupio, si modo; i5. A. Quid? illa lex → A. Quid? illa lex; £. Assentior → E. Assentior.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.6 (PL 32:1227–1229; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-6). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); no public-domain English translation exists, so each batch was checked afterwards privately against a modern translation (never quoted or copied); the Latin decides.

1.7PL 32:1229

A. Age nunc, videamus, homo ipse quomodo in seipso sit ordinatissimus: nam ex hominibus una Icgc sociatis, populus constat; quæ lex, ut diftum est, temporalis est. Et dic rnihi utrum certissimum sit tibi vicere te. E. Hoc vero quid certius responderim? A. Quid? illud potesne dignoscere, aliud esse vivere, aliud, nosse se vivere? E. Scio quidem neminem se nosse vivere, nisi viventem; sed utrum omnis vivens novcrit se vivere, ignoro. A. Quam vellem ut credis, ita etiam scires pecora carere ratione; cito nostra disputatio ab ista quæstione transiret: sed quoniam nescire to dicis, longam sermocinationem moves. Neque enim tatis res cst, qua prætermissa pergere in ca quæ intendimus, tanta connexione rationis, quanta opus esse sentio, sinamur. Dic itaque mihi, cum sæpe viderimus bestias ab bominibus domitas, id cst, non corpus bestiæ tantum, sed et animam ita homini sub­ jugatam, ut volontali ejus sensu quodam et consuetu­ dine serviat; utrum tibi ullo modo fieri posse videatur, ut bestia quælibet immanis vel fcritate vel corpore, vd etiam sensu quolibet acerrima, pan vice sibi hominem subjugare conetur, cum corpus ejus seu vi seu clam multe interimere valeant. E. Nullo modo istuc fieri posse consentio.

A. Come now, let us see how a human being himself is most perfectly ordered within himself; for a people consists of human beings joined together by one law, and that law, as was said, is temporal. Tell me whether it is most certain to you that you are alive. E. What more certain answer could I give than this? A. Well, can you distinguish that it is one thing to live and another to know that one lives? E. I know that no one knows that he lives unless he is living; but whether every living thing knows that it lives, I do not know. A. How I wish that, as you believe it, so you also knew that cattle lack reason! Our discussion would quickly pass on from this question. But since you say you do not know, you set off a long conversation. For it is not the kind of matter that we can pass over and go on to what we intend with as close a chain of reasoning as I feel is needed. So tell me: since we have often seen beasts tamed by human beings, that is, not only the body of a beast but also its soul so subjected to a human being that it serves his will by a kind of sense and habit, does it seem to you possible in any way that some beast, however monstrous in fierceness or in body, or very keen in any sense, should try in its turn to subject a human being to itself, although many of them can destroy his body by force or by stealth? E. I agree that this can in no way happen.

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Summary: Turning to order within the human being, Augustine distinguishes living from knowing that one lives and notes that beasts, though stronger, never try to tame human beings.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slips): J1omo ipse quomodo ill seipso → homo ipse quomodo in seipso.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.7 (PL 32:1229; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-7). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.8PL 32:1229–1231

A. Bene sane: sed item dic mihi, cum manifestum sit, viribus cæterisque officiis corpo. ris a plurimis bestiis hominem facile superari, quæ­ nam res sit qua homo excellit, ut nulla ei bestiarum, ipse autem multis imperure possit i an forte ipsa est quas ratio vel intelligentia dici solet? B. Non invenio aliud, quandoquidem in animo est id quo belluis an. tecellimus: quæ£ si exanimes cssent, dicercm nos eo præstare, quod animum habemus. Nunc vero cum et illa sint animalia, id quod corum animis non inest ut subdantur nobis, inest autem nostris ut eis meliores simus, quoniam neque nihil, neque parvum aliquid esse cuivis apparet; quid aliud rectius, quam ratio­ nem vocaverim? A. Vide quam facile flat Deo adju­ vante, quod homines difficillimum putant. Nam ego. fateor tibi, quæstionem istam, quae, ut intelligo, ter. minata est, tamdiu nos retenturam putaveram, quam fortasse omnia quæ dicta sunt ab ipso nostræ dispu­ tationis cxordio. Qqare accipe jam, ut dcinde rati o connectatur: nam credo non te ignorare, id quod sciro dicimus, nihil esse aliud quam ratione habere perce. ptum. E. Ita est. A. Qni ergo scitsc vivere, ratione non caret. E. Consequens est. A. Vivunt autem beslix, ct sicut jam emicuit, rationis expertes sunt.E. Manifestum est. A. Ecce igitur jam nosti,quod te ignorare respon­ deras, non omne quod vivit scire se vivcre, quanquam omne quod se vivcre sciat, vivat necessario. E. Non mihi est jam dubium; -perge quo in­ tenderas: aliud enim esse vivere, aliud scire so vi­ vcre, satis didici. A. Quid ergo libi horum duorum videtur esse præstantius? E. Quid puras, nisi scicn­ tiarn vitæ? A. Meliorne tibi videtur vitæ scientia quant ipsa vita? an forte intelligis superiorem quamdam et sinceriorcm vitam esse scientiam, quam scire nemo potest, nisi qui intelligit? Intelligere autem quid est, nisi ipsa luce inentis illustrius perfectiusque vivere? Quare tu mihi, nisi fallor, non vitas aliud aliquid, sed cuidam vitæ meliorem vitam.præposuisti. E. Outime omnino et cognovisti et explicasti sententiam meam: ki tamen scientia maia esse nunquam potest. A. Nullo modo arbitror, nisi cum translato verbo scientiam pro experientia dicimus: experiri enim non semper bonum csl: sicut experiri supplicia: illa vero qu;e proprie ac puro scientia nominatur, qnia ratione atque intelli­ gentia paratur, mala esse qui potest? I:. Teneo ct istam differentiam: persequere cætera. A. Illud est qnod volo dicere: hoc quidquid est, quo pecoribus homo præponitur, sive mens, sive spiritus, sivc utrumque rectius appellatur ( nam utrum­ que in divinis Libris invenimus), si dominemur atque imperet cæteris qnibuscumquc homo constat, tunc esse hominem ordinatissimum. Videmus enim habere nos non salum cum pecoribus, sed eliam cum arbu­ stis et stirpibus multa communia: namquc alimentum corporis sumere, crescere, gignere, vigere, arboribus quoque tributum videmus, quæ inlima quadam vita continentur; videre autem atque aadire, et olfactu, gustu, tactu corporalia sentire posse bestias, et acrius plerasque qnam uos, cernimus et fatcmur. Adde vires et valentiam firmitatemque membrorum, ct celeri­ tates facillimosque corporis motus, quibus omni­ bus quasdam earum superamus, qnibusdam æqua­ mur, a nonnullis eliam vincimur. Gemis tamen ipsum rerum est nobis certe commune cnm belluis: jam ■ vero appetere voluplalcs corporis, et vitare molestias, frinæ vitæ omnis actio e-t. Sunt alia qiucdam, quæ jam cadere in feras non videntur, nec tamen in ho­ mine ipso summa sunt, ut jocari et ridere: quod hu­ manum quidem, sed infimum hominis judicat, quisquis de natura humana rectissime judicat. Deinde amor laudis cl gluti;n, et affectatio dominandi, quæ tametsi bestiarum non sunt, non tamen earum rerum libidine bestiis meliores nos esse arbitrandum est. Nam et iste appetitus cum rationi subditus non est, miseros facit. Nemo autem cuiquam miseria se præponendum pu­ tavit. Hisce igitur motibus auimx cum ratio domina­ tur, ordinatus homo dicendus est. Non enim ordo rectus, ant ordo api ellandus est omnino, ubi deterio­ iibus meliora subjiciuntur: an tibi non videtur? E. M anifestum est. A. Ratio ista ergo, vel mens, vcl spi­ ritus cum irrationales animi mutus regit, id scilicet dominatur in Illine, cui dominetio lege debetur ea quam æternam esse comperimus. E. Intelligo ac sequor.

A. Quite right. But tell me also: since it is clear that a human being is easily surpassed by very many beasts in strength and in the other functions of the body, what is it in which a human being excels, so that no beast can command him while he can command many of them? Is it perhaps what is usually called reason or understanding? E. I find nothing else, since what makes us surpass the brutes lies in the mind. If they were without souls, I would say that we excel them because we have a mind. But since they too are living beings, what is absent from their minds, so that they are subject to us, but present in ours, so that we are better than they, is plainly neither nothing nor something small; what could I more rightly call it than reason? A. See how easily, with God's help, a thing is done that people think most difficult. For I confess to you that I had thought this question, which, as I see, is now settled, would hold us as long as perhaps everything that has been said since the very beginning of our discussion. So take this now, so that the reasoning may next be linked together: I believe you are aware that what we call knowing is nothing other than having perceived by reason. E. So it is. A. Then one who knows that he lives does not lack reason. E. It follows. A. But beasts live, and, as has now become clear, they have no share in reason. E. That is evident. A. See, then: you now know what you answered you did not know, that not everything that lives knows that it lives, although everything that knows that it lives necessarily lives. E. I no longer doubt it; go on where you were heading. For I have learned well enough that it is one thing to live and another to know that one lives. A. Which of these two, then, seems to you more excellent? E. What do you suppose, but the knowledge of life? A. Does the knowledge of life seem to you better than life itself? Or do you perhaps understand knowledge to be a higher and purer life, which no one can know unless he understands? And what is understanding but living more brightly and perfectly by the very light of the mind? So, unless I am mistaken, you have not preferred something other than life to life, but a better life to a certain kind of life. E. You have grasped and set out my view perfectly; provided, however, that knowledge can never be evil. A. In no way, I think, unless we use the word in a transferred sense, saying knowledge when we mean experience. For to experience is not always good, as when one experiences punishments. But how can that which is properly and purely called knowledge, since it is acquired by reason and understanding, be evil? E. I grasp that distinction too. Go on with the rest. A. This is what I want to say: whatever this is by which a human being is set above cattle, whether it is more rightly called mind or spirit or both (for we find both in the divine books), if it rules and commands all the other parts of which a human being consists, then that human being is most perfectly ordered. For we see that we have many things in common not only with cattle but even with trees and plants. To take food for the body, to grow, to reproduce, to flourish: we see these granted also to trees, which are contained in a lowest kind of life. And we see and admit that beasts can see and hear and perceive bodily things by smell, taste, and touch, most of them more keenly than we. Add strength, power, and firmness of limbs, and speed and very easy motions of the body: in all these we surpass some of them, equal others, and are even beaten by some. This whole class of things is certainly common to us and the brutes; and to seek the pleasures of the body and to avoid discomforts is the whole activity of the life of beasts. There are some other things that do not seem to fall to wild animals, yet are not the highest in a human being, such as joking and laughing; whoever judges human nature most rightly judges this to be human indeed, but the lowest part of a human being. Then there is the love of praise and glory, and the desire to rule; though these do not belong to beasts, we must not think that we are better than beasts by lusting for these things. For this appetite too, when it is not subject to reason, makes people miserable; and no one has thought that he should be ranked above anyone by misery. So when reason rules these motions of the soul, a human being must be called ordered. For it is not right order, or to be called order at all, where better things are subjected to worse. Or does it not seem so to you? E. It is evident. A. When, then, this reason, or mind, or spirit, rules the irrational motions of the soul, then that rules in a human being to which rule is owed by that law which we found to be eternal. E. I understand and follow.

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Summary: Augustine argues that reason sets human beings above beasts and that a human being is rightly ordered when reason, mind, or spirit rules the lower motions of the soul, as the eternal law requires.

  • Migne's chapter heading (chapter 8) inside this section is removed by a logged correction.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (Migne's chapter heading, summary, and paragraph number (18) leaked into the text; OCR slip; OCR slip (ficIs for mens)): C APUT VIII. — Ratio qua præcellit homo bestiis de­ bet in ipso dominari. iS. → ; sive ficIs, sive spiritus → sive mens, sive spiritus; qnandoquidem in animo est id quo belluis an → quandoquidem in animo est id quo belluis an.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Lib. arb. 1.8 (PL 32:1229–1231; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-libero-arbitrio/1-1/#p-1-8). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Migne's Patrologia Latina (digital text of the Open Greek and Latin project); no public-domain English translation exists, so each batch was checked afterwards privately against a modern translation (never quoted or copied); the Latin decides.