Against the Doctrines of Mani 15–27

Greek text: Brinkmann, Teubner 1895 (Greek text: August Brinkmann (Teubner, 1895), public domain).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0).

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Chapter 15

15Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 22

Πόθεν οὖν ἡδονὴ καὶ ἐπιθυμία; ταῦτα γὰρ μάλιστα κακὰ εἶναι λέγουσιν, καὶ δι’ ἃ μεμισήκασιν τὴν ὕλην, οὐχ ἕτερα μᾶλλόν ἐστιν. ὅτι μὲν οὖν [οὐ] περὶ τὰ αἰσθητικὰ τῶν ξῴων μόνον ἐστὶ ταῦτα καὶ οὐδὲν ἕτερον ἀντιλαμβάνεται ἐπιθυμίας καὶ ἡδονῆς ἢ τὰ αἰσθανόμενα, φανερόν. ποία γὰρ αἴσθησις ἡδονῆς καὶ λύπης φυτῷ, ποία δὲ γῇ (ἢ) ὕδατι ἢ ἀέρι; οἱ δαίμονές τε — εἴπερ εἰσὶν αἰσθητικὰ ζῷα — διὰ τοῦτο ἴσως τοῖς νενομισμένοις περὶ τὰς θυσίας ἥδονται καὶ ἀπολειπομένων δυσφοροῦσιν, οὐδενὸς τοιούτου περὶ θεοῦ ἐπινοεῖσθαι δυναμένου. οἱ δὴ λέγοντες “διὰ τί ἥδεται καὶ ἐπιθυμεῖ τὰ ζῷα;᾽ αἰτιάσθωσαν πρότερον, διὰ τί ἐστιν αἰσθητικὰ ταῦτα ἢ διὰ τί τροφῆς δεῖται. ἃ μὲν γὰρ ἦν ἀθάνατα ζῷα καὶ φθορᾶς καὶ αὔξης ἀπήλλακται — οἷον ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη καὶ ἀστέρες — καίτοι ὄντα αἰσθητικά, ἐχτὸς δὲ τούτων ἐστὶν καὶ τῆς τοιαύτης αἰτιάσεως" ὁ δὲ ἄνθρωπος καὶ αἴσθεσθαι καὶ κρίνειν δυνάμενος καὶ δυνάμει σοφός — ἔχει γὰρ δύναμιν τοιοῦτος γενέσθαι — ἀπολαβὼν τὸ ἴδιον δή, καταπατεῖ.

Pothen oun hēdonē kai epithymia? tauta gar malista kaka einai legousin, kai di’ ha memisēkasin tēn hylēn, ouch hetera mallon estin. hoti men oun [ou] peri ta aisthētika tōn xǭōn monon esti tauta kai ouden heteron antilambanetai epithymias kai hēdonēs ē ta aisthanomena, phaneron. poia gar aisthēsis hēdonēs kai lypēs phytǭ, poia de gę̄ (ē) hydati ē aeri? hoi daimones te — eiper eisin aisthētika zǭa — dia touto isōs tois nenomismenois peri tas thysias hēdontai kai apoleipomenōn dysphorousin, oudenos toioutou peri theou epinoeisthai dynamenou. hoi dē legontes “dia ti hēdetai kai epithymei ta zǭa?᾽ aitiasthōsan proteron, dia ti estin aisthētika tauta ē dia ti trophēs deitai. ha men gar ēn athanata zǭa kai phthoras kai auxēs apēllaktai — hoion hēlios kai selēnē kai asteres — kaitoi onta aisthētika, echtos de toutōn estin kai tēs toiautēs aitiaseōs" ho de anthrōpos kai aisthesthai kai krinein dynamenos kai dynamei sophos — echei gar dynamin toioutos genesthai — apolabōn to idion dē, katapatei.

Where, then, do pleasure and desire come from? These, they say, are the greatest evils, and it is for these more than for anything else that they have come to hate matter. Now it is clear that these belong only to the animals that have sensation, and that nothing perceives desire and pleasure except what has sensation. For what sensation of pleasure and pain has a plant, or earth, water or air? And the demons, if they are living beings with sensation, perhaps for this reason take pleasure in the customary sacrifices and are vexed when they are left off, whereas nothing of the kind can be thought of God. Those who say, 'Why do animals feel pleasure and desire?' should first blame the fact that they have sensation, or that they need food. For those that are immortal living beings and free from decay and growth, such as the sun, the moon and the stars, although they have sensation, are outside this charge; but man, able both to perceive and to judge, and wise in potency (for he has the power to become such), once he has received his own proper faculty, tramples these things underfoot.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: Alexander argues that pleasure and desire belong to sensation and bodily need, not to an evil principle, and that man can master them.

  • The editor deletes οὐ ('not') in the sentence 'Now it is clear …'. The last clause is obscure in the Greek and is translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR: marginal page number): £.1867 ἀπήλλακται → ἀπήλλακται; αἰσθητζιχ)ά → αἰσθητικά.

Topics: Heresy, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 15 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 22; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 16

16Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 22–24

ὅλως γὰρ ἄξιον πυθέσθαι τούτων τῶν ἀνδρῶν, πότερον οὐδένα ἄνθρωπον δυνατὸν σπουδαῖον γενέσθαι ἤ τινά γε ἐνδέχεται. εἰ μὲν γὰρ οὐδεὶς σοφός, τί δήποτε αὐτὸς ὁ Μανιχαῖος —ἐῶ γὰρ τοὺς ἄλλους — οὐ μόνον σπουδαῖος εἶναι λέγει, ἀλλὰ καὶ ἄλλους φησὶν ἱκανὸς εἶναι τοιούτους ποιῆσαι; εἰ δ᾽ ὅλως ἔστιν τις, τί κωλύει καὶ πάντας γενέσθαι σπουδαίους; ὃ γὰρ περὶ ἕνα, καὶ περὶ πάντὰς ἐνδέχεται, καὶ δι᾽ ὧν καὶ εἷς, διὰ τούτων καὶ πάντες ἐνάρετοι ἂν γένοιντο" εἶ μή τί φασιν τῆς δυνάμεως πλεῖστον τοῖς τοιούτοις ἐναπολαμβάνεσθαι. πάλιν τοίνυν πρῶτον μὲν τίς χρεία τοῦ περὶ τὴν παίδευσιν πόνου; γενοίμεθα γὰρ ἂν καθεύδοντες σπουδαῖοι. ἢ διὰ τί μάλιστα τοὺς ἀκροωμένους αὐτῶν οἱ τοιοῦτοι ἄνδρες εἷς ἐλπίδα ἄγουσι τοῦ καλοῦ; καὶ γὰρ καλινδούμενοι σὺν ταῖς ἑταίραις τὸ οἰκεῖον ἔχοιεν ἂν ἀγαθόν. εἰ δὲ ἡ παίδευσις καὶ ἡ περιαγωγὴ βελτίων καὶ τὸ σπουδαῖον περὶ τὴν τῆς ἀρετῆς ἀνάληψιν τοιοῦτον αὐτὸν ἀπειργάσαντο, πάντες γινέσθωσαν τοιοῦτοι, καὶ ἀνήρηται ἡ θρυλουμένη ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν τῆς ὕλης ἄτακτος κίνησις. πολὺ δὲ κάλλιον ἦν τὴν σοφίαν ὅπλον φάναι τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ δεδόσθαι, ἵν᾽ ἐστιν αὐτοῖς διὰ τὸ αἰσθητικοῖς εἶναι ἐξ ἐπιθυμίέας καὶ ἡδονῆς, τοῦτο κατὰ μιχρὸν εἰς τὸ ἀγαθὸν περιάγουσα τὸ ἑπόμενον ἄτοπον ἐξ αὐτῶν ἀνέλῃ" οὕτω γὰρ αὐτοί τε ἀρετὴν ἐπαγγελλόμενοι διδάσκειν ξηλωτοὶ ἂν ἦσαν τῆς προθέσεως καὶ τοῦ βίου, πολλή τε ἂν ἦν ἐλπὶς τοῦ ὅτι ποτὲ παύσεται τὰ κακὰ πάντων γενομένων σοφῶν. ὃ δοκεῖ μοι κατανενοηκέναι ὃ Ἰησοῦς καὶ ἵνα μὴ ἀπεληλαμένοι ὧσι τοῦ ἀγαθοῦ γεωργοί τε καὶ τέκτονες καὶ οἰχοδόμοι καὶ οἱ ἄλλοι ἀπὸ τῶν τεχνῶν, κοινὸν συνέδριον καθίσαι πάντων ὁμοῦ καὶ διὰ ἁπλῶν καὶ εὐχόλων διαλέξεων καὶ εἰς θεοῦ ἔννοιαν αὐτοὺς ἀπενηνοχέναι καὶ τοῦ καλοῦ εἰς ἐπιθυμίαν ἐλθεῖν ποιῆσαι.

holōs gar axion pythesthai toutōn tōn andrōn, poteron oudena anthrōpon dynaton spoudaion genesthai ē tina ge endechetai. ei men gar oudeis sophos, ti dēpote autos ho Manichaios —eō gar tous allous — ou monon spoudaios einai legei, alla kai allous phēsin hikanos einai toioutous poiēsai? ei d᾽ holōs estin tis, ti kōlyei kai pantas genesthai spoudaious? ho gar peri hena, kai peri pantas endechetai, kai di᾽ hōn kai heis, dia toutōn kai pantes enaretoi an genointo" ei mē ti phasin tēs dynameōs pleiston tois toioutois enapolambanesthai. palin toinyn prōton men tis chreia tou peri tēn paideusin ponou? genoimetha gar an katheudontes spoudaioi. ē dia ti malista tous akroōmenous autōn hoi toioutoi andres heis elpida agousi tou kalou? kai gar kalindoumenoi syn tais hetairais to oikeion echoien an agathon. ei de hē paideusis kai hē periagōgē beltiōn kai to spoudaion peri tēn tēs aretēs analēpsin toiouton auton apeirgasanto, pantes ginesthōsan toioutoi, kai anērētai hē thryloumenē hyp᾽ autōn tēs hylēs ataktos kinēsis. poly de kallion ēn tēn sophian hoplon phanai tois anthrōpois hypo tou theou dedosthai, hin᾽ estin autois dia to aisthētikois einai ex epithymieas kai hēdonēs, touto kata michron eis to agathon periagousa to hepomenon atopon ex autōn anelę̄" houtō gar autoi te aretēn epangellomenoi didaskein xēlōtoi an ēsan tēs protheseōs kai tou biou, pollē te an ēn elpis tou hoti pote pausetai ta kaka pantōn genomenōn sophōn. ho dokei moi katanenoēkenai ho Iēsous kai hina mē apelēlamenoi hōsi tou agathou geōrgoi te kai tektones kai oichodomoi kai hoi alloi apo tōn technōn, koinon synedrion kathisai pantōn homou kai dia haplōn kai eucholōn dialexeōn kai eis theou ennoian autous apenēnochenai kai tou kalou eis epithymian elthein poiēsai.

For in general it is worth asking these men whether no human being can become good, or whether someone at least can. If no one is wise, why does Manichaeus himself (I leave the others aside) not only say that he is good, but also claim to be able to make others such? If there is anyone at all, what prevents all from becoming good? For what is possible for one is possible for all, and by the means through which one becomes virtuous all could become so; unless they say that most of the power is caught up in such people. Then again, first, what need is there for the labour of education? We should become good while asleep. Or why do such men above all lead their hearers to hope for the good? For even wallowing with courtesans they would have their own proper good. But if education and conversion are better, and zeal for taking up virtue has made a man such, let all become such, and the disorderly motion of matter they keep chattering about is done away with. It would have been far better to say that wisdom was given by God to men as a weapon, so that whatever befalls them from desire and pleasure, because they have sensation, it might turn little by little toward the good and remove the absurd consequences of them. In that way they themselves, professing to teach virtue, would have been admired for their purpose and their life, and there would be great hope that evils would one day cease, when all had become wise. This, it seems to me, is what Jesus understood: so that farmers, carpenters, builders and others in the crafts might not be shut out from the good, he set up a common assembly of them all together, and by simple and easy discourses both brought them to the knowledge of God and made them come to desire the good.

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Summary: Alexander argues that if anyone can become good all can, so education and wisdom matter, and praises Jesus for bringing ordinary working people to God and the good.

  • Alexander, writing as a non-Christian Platonist, speaks favourably of Jesus' teaching and of the church as a 'common assembly' for working people. A garbled line in the first sentence is read as δυνατὸν ('can').

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR debris inside a broken word; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters): δυνα- ana φοιαμεμοήκαλο Ms de δ᾽ peared τὸν σπουδαῖον → δυνατὸν σπουδαῖον; καὶ dv ὧν → καὶ δι᾽ ὧν; ὃ doxst μοι → ὃ δοκεῖ μοι; πάντων duod → πάντων ὁμοῦ.

Topics: Heresy, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 16 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 22–24; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 17

17Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 24–25

Ἀλλὰ γὰρ πῶς ποτε λέγεται τὸ “κατέπεμψε τὴν δύναμιν τὴν θείαν ὃ θεὸς ἐπὶ τὴν ὕλην᾽; εἰ μὲν γὰρ ἦν ἀεὶ καὶ οὔτε ὁ θεὸς πρότερος αὐτῆς ἐπινοεῖται οὔτε ἡ ὕλη, τρεῖς πάλιν οὕτως εἰσὶν ἀρχαὶ κατὰ τὸν “Μανιχαῖον, τάχα δὲ καὶ πάμπολλαι φανήσονται ὀλίγῳ ὕστερον. εἰ δ᾽ ἐπιγενητή, πῶς ἐστιν [πῶς] ὕλης ἄμοιρος αὐτή; εἰ δὲ μέρος ἐστὶν τοῦ θεοῦ, πρῶτον μὲν σύνθετον καὶ σωματικὸν ἀποφαίνουσιν οὕτως τὸν θεόν" τοῦτο δὲ ἄτοπον καὶ ἀδύνατον. εἰ δὲ ἐποίησεν αὐτὴν καὶ ὕλης ἄμοιρός ἐστιν, θαυμάξω πῶς οὐκ ἐσκόπησαν οὔτε οὗτος οὔτε οἱ ἀπ’ ἐκείνου, ὅτι εἰ — ὃ λέγεται κατὰ τὴν ἀληθῆ δόξαν ὅτι τὰ ἐφεξῆς μένοντος τοῦ θεοῦ ὑποστάσεις εἰσὶν — τὴν δύναμιν ταύτην ἐποίησεν βουληθεὶς θεός, πῶς οὐχὶ καὶ τῶν ἄλλων ἁπάντων τῶν γενομένων αἴτιος ἐγένετο οὐδὲν ὕλης προὗπαρχούσης προσδεηθείς. τὰ μὲν δὴ φαινόμενα ἄτοπα ἐκ τούτου τοιαῦτα, ἑπόμενα δὲ τὰ ἑξῆς. dod τε γὰρ φύσιν εἶχεν ἡ, δύναμις δεῖν ἐπὶ τὴν ὕλην; ἢ παρὰ φύσιν ἦν αὐτῇ τοῦτο; πῶς οὖν ἐμίχθη; εἰ δὲ κατὰ φύσιν αὐτῇ τοῦτο, πάντως που καὶ ἀεὶ σὺν τῇ ὕλῃ ἦν" εἰ δὲ τοῦτο, πῶς κακὴν τὴν ὕλην ἀγορεύουσιν μῖγμα οὖσαν ἐξ ἀρχῆς πρὸς τὴν θείαν δύναμιν; πῶς δὲ καὶ φθαρήσεται μιχθείσης τῆς θείας δυνάμεως πρὸς αὐτὴν ἀποχωρησάσης ποτέ; ἔσῳξεν γὰρ δὴ τὰ καλὰ καὶ ἑτέρου τινὸς ἀγαθοῦ αἴτια γίγνεσθαι οἷς ἂν παρῇ εὔλογον ἢ διαφθορὰν ἢ ἄλλο τι κακὸν ἕτερον ἐπάγειν αὐτοῖς. τὸ

Alla gar pōs pote legetai to “katepempse tēn dynamin tēn theian ho theos epi tēn hylēn᾽? ei men gar ēn aei kai oute ho theos proteros autēs epinoeitai oute hē hylē, treis palin houtōs eisin archai kata ton “Manichaion, tacha de kai pampollai phanēsontai oligǭ hysteron. ei d᾽ epigenētē, pōs estin [pōs] hylēs amoiros autē? ei de meros estin tou theou, prōton men syntheton kai sōmatikon apophainousin houtōs ton theon" touto de atopon kai adynaton. ei de epoiēsen autēn kai hylēs amoiros estin, thaumaxō pōs ouk eskopēsan oute houtos oute hoi ap’ ekeinou, hoti ei — ho legetai kata tēn alēthē doxan hoti ta ephexēs menontos tou theou hypostaseis eisin — tēn dynamin tautēn epoiēsen boulētheis theos, pōs ouchi kai tōn allōn hapantōn tōn genomenōn aitios egeneto ouden hylēs prouparchousēs prosdeētheis. ta men dē phainomena atopa ek toutou toiauta, hepomena de ta hexēs. dod te gar physin eichen hē, dynamis dein epi tēn hylēn? ē para physin ēn autę̄ touto? pōs oun emichthē? ei de kata physin autę̄ touto, pantōs pou kai aei syn tę̄ hylę̄ ēn" ei de touto, pōs kakēn tēn hylēn agoreuousin migma ousan ex archēs pros tēn theian dynamin? pōs de kai phtharēsetai michtheisēs tēs theias dynameōs pros autēn apochōrēsasēs pote? esǭxen gar dē ta kala kai heterou tinos agathou aitia gignesthai hois an parę̄ eulogon ē diaphthoran ē allo ti kakon heteron epagein autois. to

But how can it be said that 'God sent the divine power down upon matter'? If the power always existed, and neither God nor matter is conceived as prior to it, then again there are three principles according to Manichaeus, and perhaps very many will appear a little later. If it came into being afterwards, how is it without a share in matter? If it is a part of God, first they thereby make God composite and bodily, and this is absurd and impossible. If God made it and it has no share in matter, I am amazed that neither he nor his followers considered this: if God, by willing, made this power (as the true doctrine says that the things after God are hypostases while God abides), how did he not also become the cause of all the other things that came into being, without needing any pre-existing matter? These are the absurdities that appear from this; the consequences follow. Was it the nature of the power to go to matter, or was this contrary to its nature? Then how was it mingled? If it was according to its nature, it was surely always with matter; and if so, how do they call matter evil, when it has been a mixture with the divine power from the beginning? And how will it perish when the divine power mingled with it departs from it one day? For good things preserve; and it is reasonable that they become causes of some further good to whatever they are present with, rather than bring destruction or some other evil upon them.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

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Summary: Alexander argues that every account of where the divine power came from, and how it was mixed with matter, contradicts the Manichaean system.

  • 'The things after God are hypostases while God abides' states the Platonist doctrine of procession, which Alexander calls the true opinion. The editor deletes a repeated πῶς ('how').

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters): todto δὲ → τοῦτο δὲ; Belay → θείαν; κακῶρ → κακὴν.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 17 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 24–25; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 18

18Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 25–26

τὸ μὲν γὰρ δὴ σοφὸν τὸ λεγόμενον ὑπ᾽ αὐτῶν ἐκεῖνό ἐστιν, ὅτι ὥσπερ ὁρῶμεν τῆς ψυχῆς τοῦ σώματος ἀποξευχθείσης τὸ σῶμα αὐτὸ ἀπολλύμενον, οὕτω καὶ τῆς δυνάμεως ἀφείσης τὴν ὕλην τὸ λειπόμενον —ὅπερ ἐστὶν ἡ ὕλη— διαλυθὲν οἰχήσεται. πρῶτον μὲν γὰρ οὐχ ὁρῶσιν ὅτι τῶν ὄντων οὐδὲν οἷόν ἐστιν φθείρεσθαι εἷς τὸ μὴ ὄν, τὸ γὰρ μὴ ὃν οὐχ ἔστιν" διασκεδασθέντων δὲ τῶν σωμάτων καὶ μεταβολήν τινα σχόντῶν διάλυσις γίνεται, ὥστε τὸ μὲν εἷς γῆν ἀπελθεῖν τὸ δὲ εἰς ἀέρα τὸ δὲ εἰς ἄλλο τι. ἔπειτα δὲ οὐ μέμνηνται ὅτι κίνησιν ἄτακτον ὑποτίθενται εἶναι τὴν ὕλην. τὸ δὲ δι’ αὑτὸ κινούμενον καὶ οὗ ἐστιν οὐσία ἡ κίνησις, ἀλλὰ μὴ κατὰ συμβεβηκὸς ὑπάρχει αὐτῷ, πῶς εὔλογον τῆς δυνάμεως ἀπελθούσης παύσασθαι τοῦ ὅπερ ἦν πρὶν καὶ τὴν δύναμιν εἰς αὐτὸ κατελθεῖν; οὐχ ὁρῶσι δὲ τὸ παραλλάττον, ὅτι πᾶν μὲν σῶμα ψυχῆς ἄμοιρον ἀκίνητον — ἔχει γὰρ καὶ τὰ φυτὰ τὴν φυτικὴν ψυχήν —, τῆς δὲ ὕλης αὐτὴν τὴν οὐσίαν … κάλλιον δ᾽ ἦν, καθάπερ ἐπὶ λύρας ἀνάρμοστα μελῳδούσης ἡ ἁρμονία ἐλθοῦσα τὸ πᾶν ἡρμοσμένον ἀπειργάσατο, οὕτω δὲ μιχθεῖσαν τὴν θείαν δύναμιν τῇ ἀτάκτῳ κινήσει — ὅπερ ἐστὶν κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς ἡ ὕλη — ἀντὶ τῆς ἐνούσης ἀκοσμίας κόσμον τινὰ αὐτῇ ἐπιτεθεικέναι καὶ ἀεὶ ἐπιθεῖναι τοῦ θείου χοροῦ ἐπάξιον. ἐπεὶ πῶς ποτε αὐτὸς ὁ Μανιχαῖος περὶ τούτων ἐγένετο ἱκανὸς διαλαβεῖν καὶ τῷ ποτε αὐτὰ ἀφηγήσατο; ὡς γὰρ μῖγμα γέγονεν καὶ αὐτὸς τῆς ὕλης καὶ τῆς ἐναποληφθείσης αὐτῇ δυνάμεως, συγχωροῦσιν. εἴτε οὖν ᾧ εἶχεν τῇ ἀτάκτῳ κινήσει ταῦτα ἔλεγεν, πῶς οὐ φαύλη ἡ δόξα; εἴτε τῇ θείᾳ δυνάμει, ἀμφίδοξον ἤδη τὸ δόγμα" τῷ μὲν ἀπὸ τῆς θείας δυνάμεως εἶναι, μέτοχον ἀληθείας, τῷ δὲ [ἀπὸ τῆς ἀτάχτου κινήσεως] τοῦ ἑτέρου μέρους μετέχει, μεθιστάμενον εἰς τὸ ψεῦδος.

to men gar dē sophon to legomenon hyp᾽ autōn ekeino estin, hoti hōsper horōmen tēs psychēs tou sōmatos apoxeuchtheisēs to sōma auto apollymenon, houtō kai tēs dynameōs apheisēs tēn hylēn to leipomenon —hoper estin hē hylē— dialythen oichēsetai. prōton men gar ouch horōsin hoti tōn ontōn ouden hoion estin phtheiresthai heis to mē on, to gar mē hon ouch estin" diaskedasthentōn de tōn sōmatōn kai metabolēn tina schontōn dialysis ginetai, hōste to men heis gēn apelthein to de eis aera to de eis allo ti. epeita de ou memnēntai hoti kinēsin atakton hypotithentai einai tēn hylēn. to de di’ hauto kinoumenon kai hou estin ousia hē kinēsis, alla mē kata symbebēkos hyparchei autǭ, pōs eulogon tēs dynameōs apelthousēs pausasthai tou hoper ēn prin kai tēn dynamin eis auto katelthein? ouch horōsi de to parallatton, hoti pan men sōma psychēs amoiron akinēton — echei gar kai ta phyta tēn phytikēn psychēn —, tēs de hylēs autēn tēn ousian … kallion d᾽ ēn, kathaper epi lyras anarmosta melǭdousēs hē harmonia elthousa to pan hērmosmenon apeirgasato, houtō de michtheisan tēn theian dynamin tę̄ ataktǭ kinēsei — hoper estin kat᾽ autous hē hylē — anti tēs enousēs akosmias kosmon tina autę̄ epitetheikenai kai aei epitheinai tou theiou chorou epaxion. epei pōs pote autos ho Manichaios peri toutōn egeneto hikanos dialabein kai tǭ pote auta aphēgēsato? hōs gar migma gegonen kai autos tēs hylēs kai tēs enapolēphtheisēs autę̄ dynameōs, synchōrousin. eite oun hǭ eichen tę̄ ataktǭ kinēsei tauta elegen, pōs ou phaulē hē doxa? eite tę̄ theią dynamei, amphidoxon ēdē to dogma" tǭ men apo tēs theias dynameōs einai, metochon alētheias, tǭ de [apo tēs atachtou kinēseōs] tou heterou merous metechei, methistamenon eis to pseudos.

The clever thing they say is this: just as we see that when the soul is separated from the body the body itself perishes, so when the power leaves matter, what is left, which is matter, will be dissolved and pass away. First, they do not see that none of the things that exist can perish into non-being, for non-being is not; but when bodies are scattered and undergo some change, dissolution takes place, so that one part goes into earth, another into air, another into something else. Next, they do not remember that they suppose matter to be disorderly motion. How is it reasonable that what moves by itself, whose essence is motion, not belonging to it by accident, should cease, when the power departs, from being what it was before the power came down into it? They do not see the difference: every body without a share of soul is motionless (for even plants have the vegetative soul), but the very essence of matter … It would have been better to say that, just as when harmony comes to a lyre playing out of tune it makes the whole attuned, so the divine power, mingled with the disorderly motion (which is matter on their account), has imposed a certain order on it in place of the disorder within it, and always imposes it, in a way worthy of the divine chorus. Otherwise, how did Manichaeus himself become able to discourse about these things, and by what did he expound them? For they grant that he too was a mixture of matter and of the power shut up in it. If, then, he said these things by the disorderly motion he had, how is the opinion not base? If by the divine power, the doctrine is at once doubtful: insofar as it comes from the divine power, it shares in truth; insofar as it shares in the other part, it shifts into falsehood.

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Summary: Alexander denies that matter can perish when the divine power leaves it, and asks by which part of himself Mani could have learned his doctrine.

  • A note of the editor's apparatus (in Latin: something seems to have fallen out before πῶς) had leaked into the text and is removed; the sentence 'but the very essence of matter …' breaks off, and the sense is probably 'is motion'. The editor deletes the words 'from the disorderly motion' in the last sentence.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR debris; OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters; OCR: marginal page number; the editor's apparatus leaked into the text): 1815 ᾿ ἐκεῖνό → ἐκεῖνό; σώμαtos → σώματος; οὐχ δρῶσι → οὐχ ὁρῶσι; "-" ἄρά γε C ante πῶς videtur excidiase tale «εἰ μὲν κίνησιν εἶναί φασιν, ἄτακτον μέντοι. κάλλιον db ἦν → … κάλλιον δ᾽ ἦν; γέγονεν so καὶ → γέγονεν καὶ; ΡιἸδοκινήσει → κινήσει; Belg δυνάμει → θείᾳ δυνάμει; τῷ δὲ τ [ἀπὸ → τῷ δὲ [ἀπὸ; μετέye → μετέχει.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 18 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 25–26; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 19

19Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 26–28

εἰ δὲ εἴρητο ὡς ἡ θεία δύναμις τὴν ὕλην ἐκόσμησεν καὶ κοσμεῖ, μακρῷ ἂν ἦν σοφώτερον καὶ πρὸς ἀξιοπιστίαν τῶν “Μανιχαίου λόγων συμβαλλόμενον μᾶλλον. Ἀλλὰ γὰρ “ἑτέραν δύναμιν κατέπεμψεν ὃ θεός᾽. ἃ μὲν δὴ εἴρηται περὶ τῆς προτέρας δυνάμεως, κοινὰ καὶ περὶ ταύτης ἐστίν, καὶ ὅσα ἄτοπα ἕπεται τῷ λόγῳ τῷ περὶ τῆς πρώτης αὐτῶν δυνάμεως, ταῦτα καὶ νῦν ἔστι λέγειν. τὸ δὲ ἄλλο τίς (ἂν) ἀνάσχοιτο; διὰ τί γὰρ δὴ οὐ πάντα μίαν τινὰ δυναμένην δύναμιν κατέπεμψεν ὃ θεός; ἢ ἀνθρώπου μὲν νοῦς οὕτως ἐστὶν πρὸς πάντα ποικίλος, ὥστε (ὃ) αὐτὸς μὲν εἶναι γεωμετρικός, ὁ αὐτὸς δὲ ἀστρονομικὸς καὶ τεχτονικὸς καὶ εἴ τι τοιοῦτον, θεῷ δὲ ἄρα ἦν ἄπορον εὑρεῖν τοιαύτην δύναμιν ἥτις αὐτῷ πρὸς πάντα ἦν ἱκανή, ἵνα μὴ πρώτης καὶ δευτέρας δέηται; διὰ τί δὲ ἡ μὲν δύναμίς ἐστιν δημιουργική, ἣ δὲ παθητικὴ μᾶλλον, ὡς καλῶς αὐτῇ ἔχειν πρὸς τὴν ὕλην κεράννυσθαι; οὐχ ὁρῶ γὰρ πάλιν ἐνταῦθα τὸ αἴτιον τῆς τάξεως τοῦ καλοῦ καὶ τὸ τῆς κατ᾽ αὐτοῦ ὑπεροχῆς, εἰ κακὸν [ἦν] οὐκ ἦν ἐν τῷ τοῦ θεοῦ οἴκῳ. εἰ γὰρ μόνον καλὸν ὁ θεὸς καὶ μόνον κακὸν ἡ ὕλη, μέσα τὰ ἄλλα καὶ μεταξὺ ἀνάγκη φάναι. ἀλλὰ εὑρίσχεταί τις ποιητὴς διάφορος περὶ τὰ μέσα, ὅταν φῶσιν τὴν μὲν δημιουργικὴν αἰτίαν, τὴν δὲ τὸ μικτὴν πρὸς τὴν ὕλην. τάχα οὖν ἐστιν τὸ προηγούμενον καὶ ἀποπροηγησάμενον τοῦτο, ὃ καὶ οἱ νεώτεροι λέγουσιν ἐν τῷ περὶ τῶν ἀδιαφόρων λόγῳ. Τῆς δὲ δημιουργικῆς φασιν δυνάμεως ἐπιχειρησάσης τῇ κοσμοποιίᾳ ἀποκεχρίσθαι τῆς ὕλης τὸ μεῖναν ἐπὶ τῆς ἰδίας ἀρετῆς κἀν τῇ συμμίξει καὶ γεγονέναι ἥλιον καὶ σελήνην, τὸ δὲ μετρίας μετειληφὸς κακίας οὐρανὸν καὶ ἀστέρας, λοιπὸν δὲ τὰ ἄλλα ἐντὸς τούτων δυνάμεως καὶ τῆς ὕλης.

ei de eirēto hōs hē theia dynamis tēn hylēn ekosmēsen kai kosmei, makrǭ an ēn sophōteron kai pros axiopistian tōn “Manichaiou logōn symballomenon mallon. Alla gar “heteran dynamin katepempsen ho theos᾽. ha men dē eirētai peri tēs proteras dynameōs, koina kai peri tautēs estin, kai hosa atopa hepetai tǭ logǭ tǭ peri tēs prōtēs autōn dynameōs, tauta kai nyn esti legein. to de allo tis (an) anaschoito? dia ti gar dē ou panta mian tina dynamenēn dynamin katepempsen ho theos? ē anthrōpou men nous houtōs estin pros panta poikilos, hōste (ho) autos men einai geōmetrikos, ho autos de astronomikos kai techtonikos kai ei ti toiouton, theǭ de ara ēn aporon heurein toiautēn dynamin hētis autǭ pros panta ēn hikanē, hina mē prōtēs kai deuteras deētai? dia ti de hē men dynamis estin dēmiourgikē, hē de pathētikē mallon, hōs kalōs autę̄ echein pros tēn hylēn kerannysthai? ouch horō gar palin entautha to aition tēs taxeōs tou kalou kai to tēs kat᾽ autou hyperochēs, ei kakon [ēn] ouk ēn en tǭ tou theou oikǭ. ei gar monon kalon ho theos kai monon kakon hē hylē, mesa ta alla kai metaxy anankē phanai. alla heurischetai tis poiētēs diaphoros peri ta mesa, hotan phōsin tēn men dēmiourgikēn aitian, tēn de to miktēn pros tēn hylēn. tacha oun estin to proēgoumenon kai apoproēgēsamenon touto, ho kai hoi neōteroi legousin en tǭ peri tōn adiaphorōn logǭ. Tēs de dēmiourgikēs phasin dynameōs epicheirēsasēs tę̄ kosmopoiią apokechristhai tēs hylēs to meinan epi tēs idias aretēs kan tę̄ symmixei kai gegonenai hēlion kai selēnēn, to de metrias meteilēphos kakias ouranon kai asteras, loipon de ta alla entos toutōn dynameōs kai tēs hylēs.

If it had been said that the divine power set matter in order and keeps it in order, it would have been far wiser and would have contributed more to the credibility of the teaching of Manichaeus. But 'God sent down another power.' What has been said about the first power applies to this one too, and whatever absurdities follow from their account of the first power may be said now as well. But who could bear the rest? Why did God not send down one power able to do everything? Is a man's mind so versatile that the same man is a geometer, an astronomer, a builder and anything else of the kind, while God, it seems, was at a loss to find a power that would be sufficient for him for everything, so as not to need a first and a second? And why is the one power creative and the other rather passive, so as to be well suited to be mixed with matter? Here again I do not see the cause of the ranking within the good, or of its superiority, if there was no evil in the house of God. For if God alone is good and matter alone evil, all else must be called intermediate and in between. Yet some maker is found who differs regarding the intermediates, when they say that the one is the creative cause and the other the one mixed with matter. Perhaps this is the 'preferred' and the 'dispreferred' that the more recent philosophers speak of in their account of things indifferent. They say that when the creative power set about making the world, that part of matter which had kept its own virtue even in the mixture was separated off, and the sun and the moon came into being; what had taken a share of moderate evil became the heaven and the stars; and the rest within these, of the power and of matter.

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Notes and citation

Summary: Alexander finds the sending of a second, creative power as absurd as the first and asks why God needed two powers.

  • 'The more recent philosophers' are the Stoics, who divided things indifferent into the 'preferred' (προηγμένα) and the 'dispreferred' (ἀποπροηγμένα). The editor deletes a repeated ἦν; the words 'would' and 'the same' are the editor's supplements.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR: Greek read as Latin letters): ὃ Beds; → ὃ θεός;.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 19 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 26–28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 20

20Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 28

ἐγὼ δὲ παρὰ πάντα ταῦτα θαυμάξω πῶς οὐκ αἰσθάνονται σωματικὴν ποιοῦντες. τὴν θείαν δύναμιν καὶ τέμνοντες καθάπερ τὰ μέρη. διὰ τί γὰρ οὐχ ὕλη καὶ ἡ θεία δύναμις, εἰ δή ἐστιν παθητὴ καὶ διαιρετὴ [ἡ] διὰ πάσης αὐτῆς καὶ τὸ μέν τι αὐτῆς γίνεται ἥλιος, τὸ δὲ σελήνη; καθαρῶς γὰρ ταῦτα εἷναί φασιν τῆς θείας δυνάμεως. τοῦτο δὲ ἦν ὃ ἐλέγομεν ἴδιον τῆς ὕλης εἶναι, τὸ μηδέν τι οὖσαν καθ᾽ ἑαυτὴν δεχομένην δὲ τὰ σχήματα καὶ τὰς ποιότητας πάντα γίγνεσθαι τὰ διωρισμένα. εἰ οὖν ὡς ἀφ᾽ ἑνὸς ὑποκειμένου τῆς θείας δυνάμεως μόνον γέγονεν ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη, ταῦτα δὲ ἕτερα καὶ ἕτερα, διὰ τί μὴ καὶ ἄλλο τι γένηται; εἰ δὲ πάντα γενήσεται, τὸ συμβαῖνον φανερόν, ὅτι ἡ θεία δύναμις ὕλη καὶ αὐτή, τὸ πρὸς τὰ σχήματα ποιουμένη. εἰ δὲ οὐδὲν ἕτερον ἢ ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη τὰ ἐκ τῆς θείας δυνάμεώς ἐστι γιγνόμενα, τὰ ἐναπειλημμένα ἄρα πᾶσιν τοῖς οὖσιν ἥλιός ἐστιν καὶ σελήνη καὶ ἕκαστος τῶν ἀστέρων ἥλιός. ἐστιν καὶ σελήνη ἢ τὸ ἕτερον, καὶ τῶν χερσαίων καθ᾽ ἕκαστον καὶ τῶν πτηνῶν καὶ τῶν ἀμφιβίων. ταῦτα δὲ ὅτι οὐδὲ οἱ τὰ θαύματα δειχνύντες ἀποδέξαιντο ἄν, οἶμαι παντί τῳ δῆλον εἶναι.

egō de para panta tauta thaumaxō pōs ouk aisthanontai sōmatikēn poiountes. tēn theian dynamin kai temnontes kathaper ta merē. dia ti gar ouch hylē kai hē theia dynamis, ei dē estin pathētē kai diairetē [hē] dia pasēs autēs kai to men ti autēs ginetai hēlios, to de selēnē? katharōs gar tauta heinai phasin tēs theias dynameōs. touto de ēn ho elegomen idion tēs hylēs einai, to mēden ti ousan kath᾽ heautēn dechomenēn de ta schēmata kai tas poiotētas panta gignesthai ta diōrismena. ei oun hōs aph᾽ henos hypokeimenou tēs theias dynameōs monon gegonen hēlios kai selēnē, tauta de hetera kai hetera, dia ti mē kai allo ti genētai? ei de panta genēsetai, to symbainon phaneron, hoti hē theia dynamis hylē kai autē, to pros ta schēmata poioumenē. ei de ouden heteron ē hēlios kai selēnē ta ek tēs theias dynameōs esti gignomena, ta enapeilēmmena ara pasin tois ousin hēlios estin kai selēnē kai hekastos tōn asterōn hēlios. estin kai selēnē ē to heteron, kai tōn chersaiōn kath᾽ hekaston kai tōn ptēnōn kai tōn amphibiōn. tauta de hoti oude hoi ta thaumata deichnyntes apodexainto an, oimai panti tǭ dēlon einai.

Beyond all this I am amazed that they do not perceive that they are making the divine power bodily and cutting it up like parts. Why is the divine power not matter too, if it is passive and divisible throughout, and one part of it becomes the sun and another the moon? For they say these are purely of the divine power. But this is what we said was proper to matter: to be nothing in itself, but to receive shapes and qualities and become all the defined things. If, then, from the divine power alone, as from one substrate, came the sun and the moon, and these are different from each other, why should not something else come to be as well? And if everything will come to be from it, the consequence is plain: the divine power is itself matter, being made into the shapes. But if nothing other than the sun and the moon is what comes from the divine power, then what is shut up in all existing things is the sun and the moon, and each of the stars is the sun and the moon, or one of them, and so is each of the land animals, the birds and the amphibians. That not even conjurors would accept this is, I think, plain to everyone.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: Alexander argues that if sun and moon are made from divided parts of the divine power, the divine power is itself matter.

  • The editor deletes ἡ ('the') in the second sentence.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR debris and marginal number; OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters): οὖσαν nue ἑαυτὴν → οὖσαν καθ᾽ ἑαυτὴν; ποιότηο τὰς → ποιότητας; ἕτερον <I> ν»ιτοσἥλιος → ἕτερον ἢ ἥλιος; χερσαίων far x08” ἕκαστον → χερσαίων καθ᾽ ἕκαστον.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 20 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 28; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 21

21Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 28–29

Τὸ δὲ μετὰ ταῦτα ἐπισκοποῦσιν οὐκ εὐθεῖα ἡ ὁδὸς ἀλλὰ δυσαντοτέρα τῆς παρελθούσης. λέγουσιν γὰρ μηδὲν ἄτοπον πεπονθέναι κατὰ τὴν σύμμιξιν πρὸς τὴν ὕλην ἥλιον καὶ σελήνην" εἶτα πῶς τὰ ἄλλα ἠλαττώθη παρὰ τὴν ἰδίαν φύσιν οὐκ ἔχουσι λέγειν. εἰ μὲν γὰρ καὶ ὅτε καθ᾿ αὑτὴν ἦν ἡ θεία δύναμις οὕτως εἶχεν ὥστε τὸ μέν τι αὐτῆς εἷναι καλὸν τὸ δὲ κάλλιον, (χαὶ» κατὰ τὸν τῶν Ἱπποκενταύρων μῦθον, οἵ τὸ μὲν ἄχρι στηθῶν ἄνθρωποι ἦσαν τὸ λοιπὸν δὲ ἵπποι —καλὰ μὲν ἑκάτερα τὰ ζῷα κάλλιον δὲ ὃ ἄνθρωπος —᾿ οὕτω καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς θείας δυνάμεως ἔστιν ἐπινοῆσαι τὸ μέν τι αὐτῆς τῷ καλῷ διαφέρον τὸ δὲ ἐλαττούμενον κατὰ τοῦτο, καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς ὕλης δὲ τὸ μὲν ὑπάρχει ὑπερβολήν τινα ἔχον κακίας <.....) — τὰ ἕτερα μὲν ἕτερα καὶ ἕτερα <..... > —, ἄλλος ἂν ἦν λόγος. ἐνεδέχετο γὰρ ὑπολαβεῖν ὅτι ἐμφρονέστερ᾽ ὄντα ἐξ ἀρχῆς ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη τὰ ἧττον πονηρὰ τῆς ὕλης εἷς τὴν σύμμιξιν ἐξελέξατο, ἵνα μένῃ ἐπὶ τῆς ἰδίας ἀρετῆς, ἐξασθενησάντων τηλικῶνδε πονηρευμάτων ἐχβιάσασθαι τοσαύτην ὑπεροχὴν ἐν τῷ ἀγαθῷ" τὰ δὲ ἄλλα μέρη αὐτῆς ἦν πεσόντα, οὐκ ἀπρονοήτως μέν, οὐ μὴν μετὰ τῆς ἴσης προνοίας, ἀπολαῦσαι μᾶλλον κακίας τῆς ἐν αὐτῇ κατὰ τὸ ποσὸν ἕκαστον. ἐπειδὴ δὲ οὐδὲν διάφορον περὶ τῆς δυνάμεως ταύτης παρ᾽ αὐτῶν λέγεται ἀλλ᾽ ὁμοία διὰ πάσης αὐτῆς θεωρεῖται, ἀπίθανος λόγος ὅτι ἐν μὲν τῇ συμμίξει τὸ μὲν ἔμεινεν ἀκέραιον τὸ δὲ μετέσχεν κακίας τινός.

To de meta tauta episkopousin ouk eutheia hē hodos alla dysantotera tēs parelthousēs. legousin gar mēden atopon peponthenai kata tēn symmixin pros tēn hylēn hēlion kai selēnēn" eita pōs ta alla ēlattōthē para tēn idian physin ouk echousi legein. ei men gar kai hote kath᾿ hautēn ēn hē theia dynamis houtōs eichen hōste to men ti autēs heinai kalon to de kallion, (chai» kata ton tōn Hippokentaurōn mython, hoi to men achri stēthōn anthrōpoi ēsan to loipon de hippoi —kala men hekatera ta zǭa kallion de ho anthrōpos —᾿ houtō kai epi tēs theias dynameōs estin epinoēsai to men ti autēs tǭ kalǭ diapheron to de elattoumenon kata touto, kai epi tēs hylēs de to men hyparchei hyperbolēn tina echon kakias <.....) — ta hetera men hetera kai hetera <..... > —, allos an ēn logos. enedecheto gar hypolabein hoti emphronester᾽ onta ex archēs hēlios kai selēnē ta hētton ponēra tēs hylēs heis tēn symmixin exelexato, hina menę̄ epi tēs idias aretēs, exasthenēsantōn tēlikōnde ponēreumatōn echbiasasthai tosautēn hyperochēn en tǭ agathǭ" ta de alla merē autēs ēn pesonta, ouk apronoētōs men, ou mēn meta tēs isēs pronoias, apolausai mallon kakias tēs en autę̄ kata to poson hekaston. epeidē de ouden diaphoron peri tēs dynameōs tautēs par᾽ autōn legetai all᾽ homoia dia pasēs autēs theōreitai, apithanos logos hoti en men tę̄ symmixei to men emeinen akeraion to de meteschen kakias tinos.

When they examine what comes next, the road is not straight but steeper than the one before. They say the sun and the moon suffered nothing amiss in the mixture with matter; but then they cannot say how the rest were lessened from their own nature. If, even when the divine power was by itself, it was such that part of it was good and part better (like the myth of the Hippocentaurs, who were men down to the chest and horses for the rest; both creatures are good, but the man is better), so that one could conceive part of the divine power excelling in beauty and part falling short of it, and likewise one part of matter having a certain excess of evil … (different things being different …), it would be another argument. For one could then suppose that the sun and the moon, being wiser from the beginning, chose the less wicked parts of matter for the mixture, so as to remain in their own virtue, since such wickedness was too weak to force out so great a superiority in good; while the other parts of the power, having fallen, not without forethought but not with equal forethought, received a greater share of the evil in matter, each according to its measure. But since they say nothing different about this power, and it is regarded as alike throughout, the account is unconvincing that in the mixture one part stayed pure and another took a share of some evil.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

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Summary: Alexander argues that since the Manichaeans hold the divine power to be alike throughout, they cannot explain why the sun and moon remained pure while the rest was tainted.

  • Two gaps in the text are marked by the editor with dots.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ἹἹπποχενταύρων → Ἱπποκενταύρων.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 21 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 28–29; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 22

22Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 29–32

Λέγουσι δὲ ὅτι καὶ ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη τὴν θείαν δύναμιν κατὰ μικρὸν διακρίναντες ἀπὸ τῆς ὕλης πρὸς τὸν θεὸν ἀποπέμπουσιν, τῆς σελήνης ἐν ταῖς νουμηνίαις μέχρι τῆς πανσελήνου εἷς ἑαυτὴν δεχομένης ταύτην εἶτα τῷ ἡλίῳ παραδιδούσης, τοῦ δὲ πρὸς τὸν θεὸν παραπέμποντος. εἰ δ᾽ ἦσαν καὶ κατὰ μικρὸν εἷς ἀστρονόμων θύρας φοιτήσαντες, οὐκ ἂν ταῦτα πεπόνθέσαν οὔτε ἠγνόησαν ἂν ὅτι ἡ σελήνη — κατά τινας ἄμοιρος οὖσα ἰδίου φωτός — ὑπὸ τοῦ ἡλίου καταλάμπεται, καὶ ὅτι οἱ σχηματισμοὶ αὐτῆς εἶσιν παρὰ τὰς τοῦ ἡλίου διαστάσεις, πανσέληνός τε γίγνεται ὅταν ἀπέχῃ τοῦ ἡλίου τὰς ἑκατὸν καὶ ὀγδοήκοντα μοίρας, σύνοδος δὲ ὅταν ἐπὶ τῆς αὐτῆς τῷ ἡλίῳ φέρηται μοίρας. ἔπειτα δὲ πῶς οὐ θαυμαστὸν ὅπως ποτὲ πολλαὶ οὖσαι αἱ ψυχαὶ καὶ ἀπὸ διαφόρων — καὶ γὰρ τοῦ κόσμου αὐτοῦ καὶ ξῴων καὶ φυτῶν καὶ νυμφῶν καὶ δαιμόνων εἶεν ἂν καὶ ἐν τούτοις πτηνῶν χερσαίων ἀμφιβίων — διακρίνονται τῇ ὄψει, ἀλλ᾽ ἕν τι σῶμα ὅμοιον ἀεὶ διὰ παντὸς φαίνεται ἡμῖν ἐν τῇ σελήνῃ. τί δὲ καὶ τὸ συνεχὲς τοῦ σώματος τούτου καὶ ὅτε μὲν διχότομός ἐστιν ἡ σελήνη, φαινόμενον ἡμικύκλιον, ὅτε δὲ ἀμφίκυρτος, τοιοῦτον <..;..> πάλιν πῶς ἀναλαμβάνονται ἐπὶ τὴν σελήνην ἢ ποίῳ χρώμεναι ὀχήματι; εἶ μὲν γὰρ κοῦφόν ἐστιν οἷον πῦρ, οὐκ ἄχρι τῆς σελήνης μόνον εἰκὸς γενέσθαι ἄν, ἀλλ᾿ ἄνωθεν διὰ παντός" εἰ δὲ βαρύ, οὐδ᾽ ἀρχὴν πρὸς σελήνην ἀφικέσθαι οἷόν τε. τίνα δὲ λόγον ἔχει τὸ πρῶτον ἀφικόμενον πρὸς σελήνην μὴ εὐθὺς πρὸς ἥλιον ἀναπέμπεσθαι, ἀλλ᾽ ἐκδέχεσθαι τὴν πανσέληνον καὶ τὰς τῶν ἄλλων ψυχῶν ἐπιδημίας; ὅτε τοίνυν ἀπὸ τῆς πανσελήνου ἡ σελήνη μειοῦται, ἡ ἀποχωριζομένη δύναμις τὸν χρόνον τοῦτον ποῦ μένει, ἕως ἂν κενωθεῖσα ἡ σελήνη τῶν προτέρων ψυχῶν καθάπερ πόλις ἔρημος δευτέραν πάλιν δέζηται ἀποικίαν; χρῆν γὰρ ἀφωρίσθαι καὶ θησαυρόν τινα ἔν τινι μέρει τῆς γῆς ἢ τῶν νεφελῶν ἢ ἑτέρου τόπου τινός, ἔνθα αἱ ψυχαὶ συναγειρόμεναι ἕτοιμαι γίγνονται πρὸς τὴν ἐπιδημίαν τὴν πρὸς σελήνην. ἀλλὰ πάλιν ἀπορία ἑτέρα. διὰ τί τὸ τοίνυν οὐκ εὐθὺς πληροῦται ἢ διὰ τί πάλιν τὰς πεντεκαίδεκα ἡμέρας περιμένει; οὐκ ἔλαττον δὲ τῶν εἴρημένων θαυμαστὸν καὶ τοῦτο, τὸ μηδέποτε ἀφ᾽ οὗ μέμνηνται οἱ ἄνθρωποι τὴν σελήνην ἐντὸς πεντεκαίδεκα ἡμερῶν πεπληρῶσθαι, ἀλλὰ μηδὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ κατακλυσμοῦ τοῦ ἐπὶ Δευκαλίωνος καὶ ἔτι μᾶλλον ἐπὶ Φορωνέως, ὅτε πάντα ὡς εἰπεῖν τὰ ἐπὶ γῆς διεφθάρη καὶ πολλὴν τὴν δύναμιν συνέβη διακεκρίσθαι τῆς ὕλης. χωρὶς δὲ τούτων καὶ φορὰς γενεῶν καὶ ἀφορίας καὶ φθορῶν ὁμοίως σκοπεῖν προσῆκεν, ὧν ὡσαύτως μὴ γινομένων κατὰ τάξιν χρῆν μηδὲ τὴν τάξιν τῶν πανσελήνων μηδὲ τῶν μειώσεων οὕτω τηρεῖσθαι.

Legousi de hoti kai hēlios kai selēnē tēn theian dynamin kata mikron diakrinantes apo tēs hylēs pros ton theon apopempousin, tēs selēnēs en tais noumēniais mechri tēs panselēnou heis heautēn dechomenēs tautēn eita tǭ hēliǭ paradidousēs, tou de pros ton theon parapempontos. ei d᾽ ēsan kai kata mikron heis astronomōn thyras phoitēsantes, ouk an tauta peponthesan oute ēgnoēsan an hoti hē selēnē — kata tinas amoiros ousa idiou phōtos — hypo tou hēliou katalampetai, kai hoti hoi schēmatismoi autēs eisin para tas tou hēliou diastaseis, panselēnos te gignetai hotan apechę̄ tou hēliou tas hekaton kai ogdoēkonta moiras, synodos de hotan epi tēs autēs tǭ hēliǭ pherētai moiras. epeita de pōs ou thaumaston hopōs pote pollai ousai hai psychai kai apo diaphorōn — kai gar tou kosmou autou kai xǭōn kai phytōn kai nymphōn kai daimonōn eien an kai en toutois ptēnōn chersaiōn amphibiōn — diakrinontai tę̄ opsei, all᾽ hen ti sōma homoion aei dia pantos phainetai hēmin en tę̄ selēnę̄. ti de kai to syneches tou sōmatos toutou kai hote men dichotomos estin hē selēnē, phainomenon hēmikyklion, hote de amphikyrtos, toiouton <..?..> palin pōs analambanontai epi tēn selēnēn ē poiǭ chrōmenai ochēmati? ei men gar kouphon estin hoion pyr, ouk achri tēs selēnēs monon eikos genesthai an, all᾿ anōthen dia pantos" ei de bary, oud᾽ archēn pros selēnēn aphikesthai hoion te. tina de logon echei to prōton aphikomenon pros selēnēn mē euthys pros hēlion anapempesthai, all᾽ ekdechesthai tēn panselēnon kai tas tōn allōn psychōn epidēmias? hote toinyn apo tēs panselēnou hē selēnē meioutai, hē apochōrizomenē dynamis ton chronon touton pou menei, heōs an kenōtheisa hē selēnē tōn proterōn psychōn kathaper polis erēmos deuteran palin dezētai apoikian? chrēn gar aphōristhai kai thēsauron tina en tini merei tēs gēs ē tōn nephelōn ē heterou topou tinos, entha hai psychai synageiromenai hetoimai gignontai pros tēn epidēmian tēn pros selēnēn. alla palin aporia hetera. dia ti to toinyn ouk euthys plēroutai ē dia ti palin tas pentekaideka hēmeras perimenei? ouk elatton de tōn eirēmenōn thaumaston kai touto, to mēdepote aph᾽ hou memnēntai hoi anthrōpoi tēn selēnēn entos pentekaideka hēmerōn peplērōsthai, alla mēde epi tou kataklysmou tou epi Deukaliōnos kai eti mallon epi Phorōneōs, hote panta hōs eipein ta epi gēs diephtharē kai pollēn tēn dynamin synebē diakekristhai tēs hylēs. chōris de toutōn kai phoras geneōn kai aphorias kai phthorōn homoiōs skopein prosēken, hōn hōsautōs mē ginomenōn kata taxin chrēn mēde tēn taxin tōn panselēnōn mēde tōn meiōseōn houtō tēreisthai.

They say that the sun and the moon separate the divine power from matter little by little and send it off to God: the moon receives it into itself from the new moon until the full moon and then hands it over to the sun, and the sun sends it on to God. If they had gone even a little to the doors of the astronomers, they would not have fallen into this, nor would they have been ignorant that the moon (having, as some say, no light of its own) is lit up by the sun, and that its phases follow its distances from the sun: it is full when it is a hundred and eighty degrees from the sun, and in conjunction when it moves in the same degree as the sun. Then, is it not amazing that the souls, many as they are and from different sources (from the world itself, from animals, plants, nymphs and demons, and among these from birds, land animals and amphibians), are not distinguished by sight, but one body, always alike, is seen by us in the moon throughout? And what of the continuity of this body: when the moon is halved it appears as a semicircle, and when it is gibbous, of that shape …? Again, how are the souls taken up to the moon, or using what vehicle? If it is light, like fire, it would probably not go only as far as the moon but always further upward; if it is heavy, it could not reach the moon at all. What reason is there that what first reaches the moon is not sent straight up to the sun, but waits for the full moon and the arrival of the other souls? When the moon wanes from the full, where does the power that is being separated stay during that time, until the moon, emptied of the earlier souls like a deserted city, receives a second colony? A treasury ought to have been marked off in some part of the earth or of the clouds or of some other place, where the souls gather and stand ready for the journey to the moon. But there is yet another difficulty. Why is the moon not filled at once, or why does it wait fifteen days? No less amazing than what has been said is this: never, since men have kept memory, has the moon been filled in less than fifteen days, not even at the flood in the time of Deucalion, and still less in the time of Phoroneus, when practically everything on earth was destroyed and much of the power must have been separated from matter. Besides this, they ought to have considered good harvests and bad and deaths likewise; since these do not happen in order, the order of the full moons and wanings should not be kept in this way either.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: Alexander uses astronomy to refute the Manichaean idea that the moon's phases come from souls being collected and passed to the sun.

  • Deucalion's flood and Phoroneus are figures of Greek legendary history. A gap in the text is marked by the editor with dots.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters; OCR: broken word at line end; OCR: marginal page number): Μέγουσι → Λέγουσι; φδιρδούσης → παραδιδούσης; τὸν Gedy → τὸν θεὸν; καταλάμ-. πεται → καταλάμπεται; πανσέληνός te → πανσέληνός τε; σῶμα 1895 ὅμοιον → σῶμα ὅμοιον; bre δὲ → ὅτε δὲ; ὀχή- ματι → ὀχήματι; <i> ἀποχωριξομένη → ἡ ἀποχωριζομένη.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 22 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 29–32; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 23

23Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 32–34

οὐ πάρεργον δὲ οὐδὲ τοῦτο προσακτέον, ὅτι εἰ μὲν ἄπειρός ἐστιν ἡ ἐναπειλημμένη τῇ ὕλῃ δύναμις θεία, πρὸς τὸ μειοῦσθαι αὐτὴν οὐδὲν δύναται ἃ διαπραγμα τεύονται ἥλιος καὶ σελήνη — τὸ γὰρ λειπόμενον πάλιν ἄπειρον ἀπὸ πεπερασμένου τοῦ ληφθέντος" εἰ δέ ἐστιν πεπερασμένη, χρῆν αἴσθησιν γενέσθαι ἐν τοσούτῳ χρόνῳ, πόσον ποτὲ τῆς δυνάμεως ταύτης ἐκ τοῦ κόσμου ἐμειώθη᾽ ἀλλὰ πάντα ὁμοίως μένει. Τίνας δὲ μύθους οὐχ ὑπερβέβηκεν τῷ ἀπιθάνῳ καὶ ταῦτα, ὅτε κατὰ τὴν ὀφθεῖσαν ἐν ἡλίῳ εἰκόνα τῆς ὕλης τὸν ἄνθρωπον δημιούργημα εἷναι λέγωσιν; καὶ γὰρ εἰκόνες εἴδωλά εἰσιν τῶν ἀρχετύπων᾽ εἰ δ᾽ ἐν ἡλίῳ τὴν εἰκόνα καταλείπουσιν, ποῦ τὸ παράδειγμα, πρὸς ὅπερ ἡ εἰκὼν αὐτοῖς ἀναπέπλασται; οὐ γὰρ δὴ αὐτόν γε τὸν ἄνθρωπον φήσουσιν τὸν ὄντως ἄνθρωπον εἶναι, οὐδὲ τὴν δύναμιν τὴν θείαν — ταύτην μὲν γὰρ πρὸς τὴν ὕλην μιγνύουσιν, ἐν ἡλίῳ δὲ τὴν εἰκόνα ἑωρᾶσθαι λέγουσιν, ὃς ἐγένετο κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς ἀπὸ τῆς πρὸς τὴν ὕλην ὕστερον διακρίσεως — ἀλλ᾽ οὐδὲ τὴν δημιουργικὴν αἰτίαν — ταύτην γὰρ ἐπὶ σωτηρίᾳ τῆς θείας δυνάμεως καταπεπέμφθαι φασίν, καὶ πρὸ ἡλίου κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς πάντως γε ταύτην ταχτέον, ἐπειδήπερ ἀφιγμένης αὐτῆς τὸν ἥλιον καὶ τὴν σελήνην τῆς ὕλης ἀποχεκρίσθαι συμβέβηκεν, ἐν ἡλίῳ δὲ τὴν εἰκόνα ἑωρᾶσθαι λέγουσιν. —πεποίηκεν δὲ ἡ ὕλη᾽ φασὶν 'τὸν ἄνθρωπον.᾽ τίνι ποτὲ τρόπῳ ἢ πῶς; οὐδὲ γὰρ πλάσασθαί γε τοῦτο δυνατόν. πρὸς γὰρ τῷ εἴδωλον εἰδώλου τὸν ἄνθρωπον ὑπάρχειν οὕτω γε κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς καὶ μηδεμίαν ἔχειν ὑπόστασιν, ἔτι οὐδὲ εἰς ἔννοιάν ἐστιν ἥκειν δυνάμενον, πῶς τῆς ὕλης ἔργον ἐστὶν ὃ ἄνθρωπος" τὸ γὰρ λογίξεσθαι καὶ αἴσθεσθαι οὐδὲ τῆς κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς ὕλης ἐστίν. τίς δὲ κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς ὁ ἄνθρωπος; ded γε τὸ ἐκ τῆς ψυχῆς καὶ σώματος μῖγμα ἢ τὸ ἕτερον ἢ ὅλης ψυχῆς ἀνωτέρω νοῦς; ἀλλ᾽ εἴτε νοῦς ἐστιν, πῶς τὸ κάλλιον γένοιτ᾽ ἂν τοῦ χείρονος ἔργον; εἴτε ψυχή — ταύτην δὲ τὴν θείαν τὸ δύναμιν εἶναι λέγουσιν —, πῶς ἀφαιρούμενοι τὸν θεὸν τὴν θείαν δύναμιν, ταύτην ὑπὸ τὴν τῆς ὕλης δημιουργίαν κατατάττουσιν; εἰ δὲ τὸ σῶμα μόνον καταλείπουσιν, ἀναμιμνῃσχέσθωσαν πάλιν ὅτι τοῦτο καθ’ ἑαυτὸ ἀκίνητον, τῆς δὲ ὕλης τὴν οὐσίαν κίνησιν εἷναί φασιν. ἀλλὰ μὴν ὅτε γε οὐδὲν καθ᾽ ἑαυτὸ ἐπὶ τὴν ὕλην ἄγεσθαι οἴονται, οὐδὲ τὸ ἐκ τούτων συνεστὸς εὔλογον ταύτης ἔργον εἶναι ὑπολαμβάνειν. καὶ μὴν τὸ γινόμενον ὑπό του ὅτι πάντως χεῖρον ἐκείνου, ἀναμφισβήτητον εἶναι δοκεῖ, οὕτω γὰρ ὃ κόσμος τοῦ δημιουργοῦ χείρων καὶ τῶν τεχνιτῶν ὅσα τούτων ἔργα. εἰ οὖν τῆς ὕλης ἔργον ὃ ἄνθρωπος, πάντως που ταύτης χείρων. ὕλης δὲ κάκιον οἱ ἄνδρες οὐδὲν καταλείπουσιν. καὶ οὐκ ἴσον τῇ ὕλῃ μίγνυσθαι τὴν θείαν δύναμιν ἢ τῷ ταύτης χείρονι. ἃ δὲ οἰκονομούμενοι λέγουσιν, ταῦτα οὐδὲ ἐπινοῆσαι οἷόν τε. διὰ τί γὰρ τῆς κρείττονος εἰκόνος εἷς τὴν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ὑπόστασιν τὴν ὕλην δεδεῆσθαι νομίζουσιν; ἢ διὰ τί οὐκ αὐτάρκης ἡ εἰκὼν ὥσπερ τῶν κατόπτρων πρὸς τὸ πεφηνέναι τὸν ἄνθρωπον, ἢ καθάπερ αὐτὸς ὁ ἥλιος πρὸς γένεσιν ἁπάντων τῶν γινομένων καὶ φθορὰν αὐτάρκης; — ἐμιμήσατο δὲ τὴν εἰκόνα κατὰ τὴν ποίησιν τῆς σφετέρας αὐτῆς δημιουργίας. τίνι ποτὲ ὧν εἶχεν; dod γε τῇ μιχθείσῃ πρὸς αὐτὴν θείᾳ δυνάμει; οὐχοῦν ἐν ὀργάνου λόγῳ θεία δύναμις οὕτω γε πρὸς τὴν ὕλην. ἀλλὰ τῇ ἀτάκτῳ κινήσει; οὕτως εἰδοποιοῦσι τὴν ὕλην. ἀλλὰ πάντα γε τὰ ὅμοια ἐν τάξεσιν καὶ ἀκριβείαις διὰ μιμήσεων ἀφικνεῖται εἷς τέλος" οὐδὲ γὰρ οἰκίαν ἢ πλοῖον ἤ τι ἕτερον τῶν τεχνητῶν δι᾽ ἀταξίας ἀποτελεῖσθαι οἷόν τε οὐδὲ ἀνδριάντα, ὄνπερ ἡ τέχνη πρὸς ἀνθρώπου μίμησιν ἐμηχανήσατο.

ou parergon de oude touto prosakteon, hoti ei men apeiros estin hē enapeilēmmenē tę̄ hylę̄ dynamis theia, pros to meiousthai autēn ouden dynatai ha diapragma teuontai hēlios kai selēnē — to gar leipomenon palin apeiron apo peperasmenou tou lēphthentos" ei de estin peperasmenē, chrēn aisthēsin genesthai en tosoutǭ chronǭ, poson pote tēs dynameōs tautēs ek tou kosmou emeiōthē᾽ alla panta homoiōs menei. Tinas de mythous ouch hyperbebēken tǭ apithanǭ kai tauta, hote kata tēn ophtheisan en hēliǭ eikona tēs hylēs ton anthrōpon dēmiourgēma heinai legōsin? kai gar eikones eidōla eisin tōn archetypōn᾽ ei d᾽ en hēliǭ tēn eikona kataleipousin, pou to paradeigma, pros hoper hē eikōn autois anapeplastai? ou gar dē auton ge ton anthrōpon phēsousin ton ontōs anthrōpon einai, oude tēn dynamin tēn theian — tautēn men gar pros tēn hylēn mignyousin, en hēliǭ de tēn eikona heōrasthai legousin, hos egeneto kat᾽ autous apo tēs pros tēn hylēn hysteron diakriseōs — all᾽ oude tēn dēmiourgikēn aitian — tautēn gar epi sōtērią tēs theias dynameōs katapepemphthai phasin, kai pro hēliou kat᾽ autous pantōs ge tautēn tachteon, epeidēper aphigmenēs autēs ton hēlion kai tēn selēnēn tēs hylēs apochekristhai symbebēken, en hēliǭ de tēn eikona heōrasthai legousin. —pepoiēken de hē hylē᾽ phasin 'ton anthrōpon.᾽ tini pote tropǭ ē pōs? oude gar plasasthai ge touto dynaton. pros gar tǭ eidōlon eidōlou ton anthrōpon hyparchein houtō ge kat᾽ autous kai mēdemian echein hypostasin, eti oude eis ennoian estin hēkein dynamenon, pōs tēs hylēs ergon estin ho anthrōpos" to gar logixesthai kai aisthesthai oude tēs kat᾽ autous hylēs estin. tis de kat᾽ autous ho anthrōpos? ded ge to ek tēs psychēs kai sōmatos migma ē to heteron ē holēs psychēs anōterō nous? all᾽ eite nous estin, pōs to kallion genoit᾽ an tou cheironos ergon? eite psychē — tautēn de tēn theian to dynamin einai legousin —, pōs aphairoumenoi ton theon tēn theian dynamin, tautēn hypo tēn tēs hylēs dēmiourgian katatattousin? ei de to sōma monon kataleipousin, anamimnę̄schesthōsan palin hoti touto kath’ heauto akinēton, tēs de hylēs tēn ousian kinēsin heinai phasin. alla mēn hote ge ouden kath᾽ heauto epi tēn hylēn agesthai oiontai, oude to ek toutōn synestos eulogon tautēs ergon einai hypolambanein. kai mēn to ginomenon hypo tou hoti pantōs cheiron ekeinou, anamphisbētēton einai dokei, houtō gar ho kosmos tou dēmiourgou cheirōn kai tōn technitōn hosa toutōn erga. ei oun tēs hylēs ergon ho anthrōpos, pantōs pou tautēs cheirōn. hylēs de kakion hoi andres ouden kataleipousin. kai ouk ison tę̄ hylę̄ mignysthai tēn theian dynamin ē tǭ tautēs cheironi. ha de oikonomoumenoi legousin, tauta oude epinoēsai hoion te. dia ti gar tēs kreittonos eikonos heis tēn tou anthrōpou hypostasin tēn hylēn dedeēsthai nomizousin? ē dia ti ouk autarkēs hē eikōn hōsper tōn katoptrōn pros to pephēnenai ton anthrōpon, ē kathaper autos ho hēlios pros genesin hapantōn tōn ginomenōn kai phthoran autarkēs? — emimēsato de tēn eikona kata tēn poiēsin tēs spheteras autēs dēmiourgias. tini pote hōn eichen? dod ge tę̄ michtheisę̄ pros autēn theią dynamei? ouchoun en organou logǭ theia dynamis houtō ge pros tēn hylēn. alla tę̄ ataktǭ kinēsei? houtōs eidopoiousi tēn hylēn. alla panta ge ta homoia en taxesin kai akribeiais dia mimēseōn aphikneitai heis telos" oude gar oikian ē ploion ē ti heteron tōn technētōn di᾽ ataxias apoteleisthai hoion te oude andrianta, onper hē technē pros anthrōpou mimēsin emēchanēsato.

Nor should this be brought in as a side issue: if the divine power shut up in matter is infinite, what the sun and the moon accomplish can do nothing to lessen it, for what remains is again infinite when a finite amount is taken; but if it is finite, there ought to have been some perception, in so long a time, of how much of this power has been lessened from the world; yet everything remains the same. And what myths have they not surpassed in implausibility with this too, when they say that man is a work of matter made after the image seen in the sun? For images are likenesses of archetypes. If they leave the image in the sun, where is the pattern after which the image was formed for them? They will not say it is man himself, the true man; nor the divine power, for this they mix with matter, whereas they say the image was seen in the sun, which on their account came into being from the later separation from matter; nor the creative cause, for they say this was sent down to save the divine power, and on their account it must surely be ranked before the sun, since it was upon its arrival that the sun and the moon were separated from matter; yet they say the image was seen in the sun. 'Matter,' they say, 'made man.' In what way, or how? It could not even mould him. Besides the fact that on their account man would be an image of an image and have no subsistence, it cannot even be conceived how man is a work of matter; for reasoning and perceiving do not belong even to matter as they conceive it. And what is man on their account? The mixture of soul and body, or one of the two, or mind, higher than the whole soul? If it is mind, how could the better be the work of the worse? If it is soul (and they say this is the divine power), how can they take the divine power away from God and place it under the craftsmanship of matter? If they leave only the body, let them remember again that this is motionless in itself, while they say that the essence of matter is motion. And since they think that nothing by itself is drawn to matter, neither is it reasonable to suppose that what is composed of these is its work. Moreover, it seems beyond dispute that what is made by something is altogether inferior to it: so the world is inferior to its maker, and the works of craftsmen to the craftsmen. If, then, man is the work of matter, he is surely inferior to it. But these men leave nothing worse than matter. And it is not the same for the divine power to be mixed with matter as with something worse than matter. What they say by way of explaining the arrangement cannot even be conceived. Why do they think matter needed the better image for the existence of man? Or why was the image not sufficient by itself, as with mirrors, for man to appear, or as the sun itself is sufficient for the coming to be and passing away of all things that come to be? 'Matter imitated the image in making its own work.' With which of the things it had? With the divine power mixed with it? Then in this way the divine power stands to matter as an instrument. With the disorderly motion? Then they are giving form to matter. But all likenesses reach their completion through imitation with order and exactness; neither a house nor a ship nor any other work of art can be completed by disorder, nor a statue, which art devised to imitate a man.

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Summary: Alexander argues that the divine power cannot be lessening if all stays the same, and that the Manichaean account of man as a work of matter modelled on an image in the sun is incoherent.

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters; OCR: broken word at line end; OCR: marginal page number inside a broken word): οὐ παρέρyog → οὐ πάρεργον; δύναμις Bela, → δύναμις θεία,; εἴδωλά slow → εἴδωλά εἰσιν; xara-f.190" λείπουσιν → καταλείπουσιν; ταύ- τῆς χείρων → ταύτης χείρων; καταλείmove → καταλείπουσιν; δύνωμιν → δύναμιν; ὑχόστάσιν → ὑπόστασιν; οὐκ ναὐτάρκης → οὐκ αὐτάρκης; αὐτάρκῆρ; → αὐτάρκης;; Belg δυνάμει; → θείᾳ δυνάμει;.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 23 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 32–34; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from Brinkmann's Greek (Teubner 1895), OCR slips and leaked apparatus corrected by logged corrections; compared afterwards with ANF 6.

Chapter 24

24Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 34–36

Τὸν δὲ χριστὸν οὐδὲ γιγνώσκοντες, ἀλλὰ χρηστὸν αὐτὸν προσαγορεύοντες τῇ πρὸς τὸ ἢ στοιχεῖον μεταλήψει ἕτερον σημαινόμενον ἀντὶ τοῦ κυρίως περὶ αὐτοῦ ὑπειλημμένου εἰσάγοντες νοῦν εἶναί φασιν. εἰ μὲν τὸ γνωστὸν καὶ τὸ γιγνῶσκον καὶ τὴν σοφίαν αὐτὸν λέγοιεν, ὁμόφωνα οὕτως τοῖς ἀπὸ τῶν ἐκκλησιῶν περὶ αὐτοῦ λέγουσι διαταττόμενοι οὕτω γε ἁλώσονται. πῶς οὖν τὴν λεγομένην παλαιὰν ἅπασαν ἱστορίαν ἐκβάλλουσιν; εἰ δὲ ἐπιγενητὸν κατά τινας λέγουσιν καὶ τῶν ἔξωθεν ἐπεισιόντων καὶ συμβαινόντων, σχοπήσωμεν. οἱ γὰρ δὴ ταύτης προϊστάμενοι τῆς δόξης πιθανὸν μάλιστα λέγουσιν περὶ τὰ ἔ ἔτη τῆς αἰσθητικῆς δυνάμεως διαρθρωθθείσης αὐτὸν ἐπεισέρχεσθαι. εἰ δὴ νοῦς ἐστιν ὃ χριστὸς κατ᾽ αὐτούς, οὕτω γε ἔσται τε ἅμα καὶ οὐκ ἔσται. πρὶν μὲν γὰρ ἐπεισελθεῖν τὸν νοῦν οὐδέπω ἐστίν, εἴ γε νοῦς ἐστι κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς χριστός" ἀλλὰ μὴν ὄντι γε αὐτῷ ἐπεισέρχεται νοῦς" οὕτως οὖν πάλιν κατ᾽ αὐτοὺς ἔσται [νοῦς]. ἔστιν τε καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ χρόνῳ ὃ χριστός. εἰ δὲ κατ᾽ αὐτῶν τὴν καλλίστην αἵρεσιν ὃ νοῦς κατ᾽ αὐτούς ἐστιν τὰ ὄντα πάντα, — ἐπεὶ τὴν ὕλην ἀγένητον ὑποτίθενται καὶ ἰσόχρονον ὡς εἰπεῖν τῷ θεῷ — καὶ νοῦν καὶ ὕλην τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον τὸν χριστὸν ὑποτίθενται εἶναι, (εἴ γε τὰ πάντα κατ᾽ αὐτούς ἐστιν ὁ χριστὸς νοῦς ὧν ὅς ἐστιν τὰ πάντα, καὶ ἡ ὕλη ἕν τῶν ὄντων καὶ αὐτή, ἀγένητος οὖσα. Εἰς ἐπίδειγμα δὲ τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον καὶ τὴν θείαν δύναμιν ἐνεσταυρῶσθαι τῇ ὕλῃ, καὶ αὐτὸν ὑπομεμενηκέναι τὸ πάθημα τοῦτο λέγουσιν. ὥσπερ ἀδυνάτου ὄντος ἐκείνου τοῦτο ποιεῖν, ὅπερ αὐτὸς ὁ Μανιχαῖος διαπράττεται, λόγῳ περὶ τούτου διδάσκων, ὅτι ἡ θεία δύναμις εἰς τὴν ὕλην καταχέκλειται καὶ πάλιν ἀποχωρεῖ τρόπον (ὃν) αὑτοῖς ἀναπλάττουσιν. τὸ μὲν γὰρ κατὰ τὸν ἐκκλησιαστικὸν λόγον εἰπεῖν εἰς λύσιν ἅμαρτιῶν ἑαυτὸν ἐπιδεδωκέναι ἔχει πίστιν τινὰ πρὸς τοὺς πολλοὺς κἀκ τῶν ἱστοριῶν τῶν καθ᾽ Ἕλληνας, ὅταν φῶσίν τινας ὑπὲρ σωτηρίας πόλεων ἑαυτοὺς ἐπιδεδωκέναι, καὶ παράδειγμα τοῦ λόγου ἔχει καὶ ἡ Ἰουδαίων ἱστορία τὸν τοῦ Ἀβραὰμ παῖδα εἰς θυσίαν τῷ θεῷ παρασκευάξουσα' τὸ δὲ εἰς πράγματος ἐπίδειξιν τῷ παθήματι ὑπάγειν τὸν χριστὸν πολλῆς ἐστιν ἀμαθίας, εἰς διδασκαλίαν καὶ γνῶσιν τῶν ὄντων τοῦ λόγου ὄντος αὐτάρκους.

Ton de christon oude gignōskontes, alla chrēston auton prosagoreuontes tę̄ pros to ē stoicheion metalēpsei heteron sēmainomenon anti tou kyriōs peri autou hypeilēmmenou eisagontes noun einai phasin. ei men to gnōston kai to gignōskon kai tēn sophian auton legoien, homophōna houtōs tois apo tōn ekklēsiōn peri autou legousi diatattomenoi houtō ge halōsontai. pōs oun tēn legomenēn palaian hapasan historian ekballousin? ei de epigenēton kata tinas legousin kai tōn exōthen epeisiontōn kai symbainontōn, schopēsōmen. hoi gar dē tautēs proïstamenoi tēs doxēs pithanon malista legousin peri ta e etē tēs aisthētikēs dynameōs diarthrōththeisēs auton epeiserchesthai. ei dē nous estin ho christos kat᾽ autous, houtō ge estai te hama kai ouk estai. prin men gar epeiselthein ton noun oudepō estin, ei ge nous esti kat᾽ autous christos" alla mēn onti ge autǭ epeiserchetai nous" houtōs oun palin kat᾽ autous estai [nous]. estin te kai ouk estin en tǭ autǭ chronǭ ho christos. ei de kat᾽ autōn tēn kallistēn hairesin ho nous kat᾽ autous estin ta onta panta, — epei tēn hylēn agenēton hypotithentai kai isochronon hōs eipein tǭ theǭ — kai noun kai hylēn touton ton tropon ton christon hypotithentai einai, (ei ge ta panta kat᾽ autous estin ho christos nous hōn hos estin ta panta, kai hē hylē hen tōn ontōn kai autē, agenētos ousa. Eis epideigma de touton ton tropon kai tēn theian dynamin enestaurōsthai tę̄ hylę̄, kai auton hypomemenēkenai to pathēma touto legousin. hōsper adynatou ontos ekeinou touto poiein, hoper autos ho Manichaios diaprattetai, logǭ peri toutou didaskōn, hoti hē theia dynamis eis tēn hylēn katachekleitai kai palin apochōrei tropon (hon) hautois anaplattousin. to men gar kata ton ekklēsiastikon logon eipein eis lysin hamartiōn heauton epidedōkenai echei pistin tina pros tous pollous kak tōn historiōn tōn kath᾽ Hellēnas, hotan phōsin tinas hyper sōtērias poleōn heautous epidedōkenai, kai paradeigma tou logou echei kai hē Ioudaiōn historia ton tou Abraam paida eis thysian tǭ theǭ paraskeuaxousa' to de eis pragmatos epideixin tǭ pathēmati hypagein ton christon pollēs estin amathias, eis didaskalian kai gnōsin tōn ontōn tou logou ontos autarkous.

Not even knowing Christ, but calling him Chrestos by changing one letter to η, they bring in another meaning in place of what is properly understood of him, and say that he is Mind. If they say that he is the knowable and the knowing and wisdom, they speak in agreement with those of the churches about him, and in arranging things so they will be caught: how then do they throw out the whole of what is called the old history? If they say, as some do, that mind is something that supervenes, one of the things that come in from outside and befall us, let us consider it. Those who champion this opinion say, most plausibly, that it enters at about the seventh year, when the faculty of sensation has been articulated. If, then, Christ is Mind on their account, he will both be and not be at the same time. Before mind enters he does not yet exist, if Christ is mind on their account; and yet mind enters into him while he exists; so on their account he will exist again. Christ is and is not at the same time. And if, by the finest choice of their own, mind on their account is all the things that are (since they suppose matter to be ungenerated and, so to speak, as old as God), then in this way they suppose Christ to be both mind and matter, if indeed on their account Christ is all things, being mind, which is all things, and matter too is one of the things that are, being ungenerated. They say that the divine power was crucified in matter in this way as a demonstration, and that he himself underwent this suffering: as if it were impossible for him to do what Manichaeus himself does, teaching by word about this, that the divine power has been shut up in matter and departs again in the way they make up for themselves. To say, in the church's teaching, that he gave himself for the forgiveness of sins has a certain credibility with the many, both from the histories of the Greeks, when they tell of some who gave themselves for the safety of cities, and from the history of the Jews, which also has an example of the account when it prepares the child of Abraham as a sacrifice to God. But to subject Christ to suffering for the demonstration of a fact is great ignorance, since a word is sufficient for teaching and for the knowledge of things.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Gen 22:1–14 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Alexander attacks the Manichaean doctrine of Christ as Mind and contrasts their view of the cross as a demonstration with the church's teaching that Christ gave himself for the forgiveness of sins.

  • 'Chrestos' (χρηστός, 'good') for 'Christos' was a common spelling. A note of the editor's apparatus (in Latin and Greek, on the Platonist view of the sun) had leaked into the middle of the word 'churches' and is removed. The numeral of the age at which mind enters is damaged in the scan and is read as 'seventh' (the Stoic view that reason is formed by about the seventh year). The editor deletes a repeated νοῦς ('mind'). The sacrifice of Abraham's son is Gen 22.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR debris; OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters; OCR: broken word at line end; OCR: marginal page number; OCR: marginal page number inside a broken word; the editor's apparatus leaked into the text): αὐτὸν v λέγοντερ, → αὐτὸν λέγοιεν,; ἐκκλη2g. ὁ ἥλιος — αὐτάρκηρ: Platonicorum (sec. Plat. civ. VI 509%) οὐ Storcoram et rthagoreoran communique fere haec erat illis temporibus opinio, cf. e.g. papyri Paris. hymn. in σιῶν → ἐκκλησιῶν; ἵστο- ».190 ρίαν → ἱστορίαν; [5 νοῦς] → [νοῦς]; ἔστιν te καὶ → ἔστιν τε καὶ; sivas, → εἶναι,; ἀποχωget → ἀποχωρεῖ; τῶν xa Ἕλληνας → τῶν καθ᾽ Ἕλληνας; ἐπιζδὲνδωκέναι → ἐπιδεδωκέναι; Ἰου- δαίων → Ἰουδαίων; ἐπίδειξιν δ ι9ι τῷ → ἐπίδειξιν τῷ; ἀμαBias → ἀμαθίας; αὐτάρκους. τ → αὐτάρκους..

Topics: Heresy, Christology

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 24 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 34–36; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 25

25Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 36–38

Ἀπέχονται δὲ ἐμψύχων. εἰ μὲν γὰρ ἑτέρου τινὸς χάριν, οὐ περιεργαστέον" εἰ δὲ διότι ἡ δύναμις ἡ θεία τούτων ἄπεστι μᾶλλον ἢ ἐνυπάρχει πλείων, γελοῖον αὐτὴ αὐτῶν ἡ προαίρεσις αὕτη. εἴτε γὰρ τὰ φυτὰ ἔνυλα μᾶλλον, εἷς τροφὴν καὶ δίαιταν χρῆσθαι τῷ χείρονι πῶς εὔλογον; εἴτε πλείων ἐν τούτοις ἡ δύναμις ἡ θεία, τί πρὸς τὴν τροφὴν τὰ τοιαῦτα χρήσιμα, τοῦ θρεπτικοῦ καὶ αὐζητικοῦ μέρους τῆς ψυχῆς ὄντος σωματικωτέρου; Τὸ δὲ ἀπέχεσθαι γάμου καὶ ἀφροδισίων δεδιότας, μὴ κατὰ τὴν τοῦ γένους διαδοχὴν ἐπὶ πλέον ἐνοικήσῃ τῇ ὕλῃ ἡ δύναμις ἡ θεία, θαυμάξω πῶς καὶ αὐτοὶ ἑαυτοὺς ἀποδέχονται. εἰ γὰρ μὴ ἐξαρκεῖ ἡ τοῦ θεοῦ πρόνοια, ὥστε καὶ διὰ γενέσεων καὶ διὰ τῶν ἀεὶ (κατὰ τὰ αὐτὰ καὶ ὡσαύτως ἐχόντων ἀποικονομήσασθαι τῆς ὕλης τὴν θείαν δύναμιν, τί ἡ τοῦ Μανιχαίου ἐπίνοια ὑπὲρ τούτου διαμηχανήσασθαι δύναται; οὐ γὰρ δήπου γιγαντείῳ λήματι ὡς ἀληθῶς φησιν τῷ θεῷ βοηθὺς πρὸς τοῦτο γεγονέναι, ἵνα τὰς γενέσεις ἀναιρῶν σύντομον ποιήσῃ τὴν τῆς θείας δυνάμεως ἀπὸ τῆς ὕλης ἀναχώρησιν. “A δὲ λέγεται ὑπὸ τῶν ποιήσεων περὶ τῶν Γιγάντων, ἄντικρυς μῦθός ἐστιν. οἱ μὲν γὰρ περὶ τούτων διατάττοντες ἐν ἀλληγορίαις τὰ τοιαῦτα προφέρονται τὸ σεμνὸν τοῦ λόγου ἀποχρύπτοντες τῇ τοῦ μύθου ἰδέᾳ" οἷον ὅταν ἡ τῶν Ἰουδαίων ἱστορία φῇ τοὺς ἀγγέλους ταῖς θυγατράσι τῶν ἀνθρώπων εἰς ἀφροδισίων συνεληλυθέναι μῖξιν, τὰς γὰρ θρεπτικὰς δυνάμεις τῆς ψυχῆς ἀπὸ τῶν ἄνω ἐπὶ τὰ τῇδε <...> ἡ τοιαύτη προφορὰ τοῦ λόγου σημαίνει. οἱ ποιηταὶ δὲ ἐκ γῆς ἐνόπλους ἀνασχεῖν λέγοντες τούτους εἶτ᾽ εὐθὺς πρὸς θεοὺς ἀντάραντας ἀπολωλέναι, τὸ ταχὺ καὶ ἐπίκηρον τῶν σωμάτων ὑποδηλοῦντες, οὕτω τὴν ποίησιν εἷς ψυχαγωγίαν τῷ θαύματι κατακοσμοῦσιν. οἱ δὲ οὐδὲν εἰδότες τούτων, ἔνθα δὰν παραλογισμοῦ τινος δεὐπο- φῆσαι. δύνωνται, ὁπόθεν δήποτε ἐκεῖνο ἕρμαιον ἑαυτῶν ποιοῦνται, ὥσπερ διαπραγματευόμενοι τὸ ἀληθὲς πάσῃ τέχνῃ καταγωνίσασθαι.

Apechontai de empsychōn. ei men gar heterou tinos charin, ou periergasteon" ei de dioti hē dynamis hē theia toutōn apesti mallon ē enyparchei pleiōn, geloion autē autōn hē proairesis hautē. eite gar ta phyta enyla mallon, heis trophēn kai diaitan chrēsthai tǭ cheironi pōs eulogon? eite pleiōn en toutois hē dynamis hē theia, ti pros tēn trophēn ta toiauta chrēsima, tou threptikou kai auzētikou merous tēs psychēs ontos sōmatikōterou? To de apechesthai gamou kai aphrodisiōn dediotas, mē kata tēn tou genous diadochēn epi pleon enoikēsę̄ tę̄ hylę̄ hē dynamis hē theia, thaumaxō pōs kai autoi heautous apodechontai. ei gar mē exarkei hē tou theou pronoia, hōste kai dia geneseōn kai dia tōn aei (kata ta auta kai hōsautōs echontōn apoikonomēsasthai tēs hylēs tēn theian dynamin, ti hē tou Manichaiou epinoia hyper toutou diamēchanēsasthai dynatai? ou gar dēpou giganteiǭ lēmati hōs alēthōs phēsin tǭ theǭ boēthys pros touto gegonenai, hina tas geneseis anairōn syntomon poiēsę̄ tēn tēs theias dynameōs apo tēs hylēs anachōrēsin. “A de legetai hypo tōn poiēseōn peri tōn Gigantōn, antikrys mythos estin. hoi men gar peri toutōn diatattontes en allēgoriais ta toiauta propherontai to semnon tou logou apochryptontes tę̄ tou mythou ideą" hoion hotan hē tōn Ioudaiōn historia phę̄ tous angelous tais thygatrasi tōn anthrōpōn eis aphrodisiōn synelēlythenai mixin, tas gar threptikas dynameis tēs psychēs apo tōn anō epi ta tę̄de <...> hē toiautē prophora tou logou sēmainei. hoi poiētai de ek gēs enoplous anaschein legontes toutous eit᾽ euthys pros theous antarantas apolōlenai, to tachy kai epikēron tōn sōmatōn hypodēlountes, houtō tēn poiēsin heis psychagōgian tǭ thaumati katakosmousin. hoi de ouden eidotes toutōn, entha dan paralogismou tinos deupo- phēsai. dynōntai, hopothen dēpote ekeino hermaion heautōn poiountai, hōsper diapragmateuomenoi to alēthes pasę̄ technę̄ katagōnisasthai.

They abstain from living creatures. If they do so for some other reason, it is no concern of ours; but if it is because the divine power is more absent from them, or because it is present in them in greater measure, their choice is laughable. If plants are more material, how is it reasonable to use the worse for food and diet? If the divine power is greater in them, what use are such things for food, since the nourishing and growing part of the soul is the more bodily? As for their abstaining from marriage and sexual intercourse, for fear that through the succession of the race the divine power should dwell longer in matter, I wonder how they can approve of themselves. For if God's providence does not suffice to clear the divine power out of matter, both through births and through the things that are always the same and alike, what can the contrivance of Manichaeus devise for this? Surely, with a truly gigantic spirit, he claims to have become God's helper in this, so that by abolishing births he might make the departure of the divine power from matter quicker. What the poems say about the Giants is plainly myth. Those who discuss these things set them forth in allegories, hiding the solemnity of the account under the form of a myth; as when the history of the Jews says that the angels came together with the daughters of men in sexual union: such a manner of speaking signifies that the nourishing powers of the soul … from the things above to the things here. The poets, saying that the Giants sprang up armed from the earth and then, having risen against the gods, perished at once, hint at the swiftness and perishability of bodies, and in this way adorn their poetry with marvels to entertain. But these men, knowing nothing of this, wherever they can lay hold of some fallacy, from whatever source, make it a windfall for themselves, as though their business were to overcome the truth by every art.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Gen 6:2 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Alexander mocks the Manichaean abstinence from meat and marriage and contrasts their literal myths with allegorical readings of the Giants and of the angels and the daughters of men.

  • Alexander reads the angels and the daughters of men (Gen 6:1–4) allegorically, as a Platonist would; a gap in the text follows. The Manichaean rejection of marriage is the doctrine he reported in chapter 4. One clause near the end is garbled in the scan and is translated by sense.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR: marginal page number inside a broken word): ᾿Δπέχονται → Ἀπέχονται; ody-p.200 τομον → σύντομον.

Topics: Heresy, Marriage

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 25 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 36–38; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 26

26Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 38–39

Τὸ δὲ πῦρ αὐτοῖς τὸ καυστικὸν μὲν ἀφεγγὲς δέ, τὸ ἐχτὸς τοῦ κόσμου, ποῦ ἵδρυται; εἰ μὲν γὰρ ἐπὶ τὸν κόσμον, τί τὸ αἴτιον τοῦ ἀπαθῆ εἶναι μέχρι. τοῦ παρόντος τὸν κόσμον; εἰ γὰρ διαφθείρει ποτὲ αὐτὸν πλησιάσαν, καὶ νῦν πρὸς αὐτὸν συνῆπται. εἰ δὲ χωρίς ἐστιν οἷον ὡς ἐν ἰδίῳ τόπῳ μετέωρον, τί παθὸν ὕστερον ἐπιπεσεῖται τῷ κόσμῳ; ἢ πῶς τοῦ ἰδίου τόπου ἐκστήσεται; ὑπὸ τίνος ἀνάγκης καὶ βίας; τίνα δὲ καὶ ὕλης χωρὶς ἐπινοεῖν τοῦ πυρὸς ὑπόστασιν ἢ πῶς τὸ ὑγρὸν τούτῳ ἐστὶν τροφὴ ἢ ὅσα λέγεται φυσικώτερον, οὐ τοῦ παρόντος λόγου ἐστίν. ἐκεῖνο δὲ πάντως που φανερὸν ἐκ τῶν εἰρημένων, τὸ γὰρ πῦρ τὸ τοῦ χόσμου ἐκτὸς ἀκριβῶς ἐστιν ἡ λεγομένη ὑπ’ αὐτῶν ὕλη" ἐπειδήπερ ὃ ἥλιος καὶ ἡ σελήνη καθαροὶ καθαρῶν ὄντες τῆς θείας δυνάμεως ἀπεξεύχθησαν τοῦ πυρὸς τούτου οὐδὲν ἑαυτῶν ἐν τῷ πυρὶ τούτῳ ὑπολείψαντες μέρος, τοῦτο ἦν ἡ ὕλη καθ᾽ ἑαυτήν, τὸ ἀκριβῶς ἄμικτον πρὸς τὴν θείαν δύναμιν. ὥστε ἂν κενωθῇ κόσμος τῆς κατ᾽ αὐτοῦ θείας δυνά- μεως, πάλιν τοιοῦτον ὑπολειφθήσεται πῦρ. πῶς οὖν τὸ πῦρ ἢ διαφθερεῖ τι ἢ ὑπ’ ἄλλου φθαρήσεται; πρὸς γὰρ τῷ τὸ ὅμοιον ὑπὸ τοῦ ὁμοίου ἀπαθὲς εἶναι —φίλον γὰρ μᾶλλον τῷ ὁμοίῳ τὸ ὅμοιον — οὐχ ὁρῶ πῶς γενήσεται ἡ φθορά. ὃ γὰρ γενήσεται ἡ ὕλη τῆς θείας δυνάμεως ἀποξευχθεῖσα, τοῦτ᾽ ἦν πρὶν καὶ μεμῖχθαι πρὸς αὐτὴν τὴν θείαν δύναμιν. εἰ τοίνυν ἀπολεῖται ἐρημωθεῖσα τῆς θείας δυνάμεως, διὰ τί μὴ καὶ ἀπώλετο πρὶν καὶ τὴν θείαν δύναμιν <....> ἡ ἄλλη δημιουργία, ἵνα ἀπόληται ἡ ὕλη, καὶ τοῦτο ποιήσει μέχρις ἀπείρου; καὶ τί τὸ ὄφελος; ὃ γὰρ μὴ ἐγένετο ἐκ τοῦ πρώτου βουλήματος, πῶς ἐκ τοῦ δευτέρου γενήσεται; ἢ τίς ὁ λόγος θεῷ ἀναθεῖναι πράγματα ἃ οὐδ᾽ ἐπ’ ἀνθρώπου καλῶς ἔχει ὑπονοεῖν; τὸ γὰρ ἀδύνατον πρόσεστιν τῷ βούλεσθαι ἐπὶ τῶν τοιούτων, πρὸς τῷ μηδὲ τὸ βούλεσθαι, κἂν δυνατὸν ἧ, προχείρῶς χρῆναι λέγειν" πλὴν εἰ μή τι ἕτερον θεὸν καὶ τὸν ἐπέκεινα οὐσίας λέγουσιν, ὥσπερ καινήν τινα εἰσάγουσιν ὕλην καὶ οὐχὶ τὴν ὑπειλημμένην παρὰ τοῖς νοῦν ἔχουσιν, ἣν ἢ μὴ παντάπασιν οὖσαν ὁ λόγος εὑρίσκει ἢ τὸ πάντων ἔσχατον καὶ μόγις εἰς ἔννοιαν νόθον ἀφικνεῖσθαι δυνάμενον.

To de pyr autois to kaustikon men aphenges de, to echtos tou kosmou, pou hidrytai? ei men gar epi ton kosmon, ti to aition tou apathē einai mechri. tou parontos ton kosmon? ei gar diaphtheirei pote auton plēsiasan, kai nyn pros auton synēptai. ei de chōris estin hoion hōs en idiǭ topǭ meteōron, ti pathon hysteron epipeseitai tǭ kosmǭ? ē pōs tou idiou topou ekstēsetai? hypo tinos anankēs kai bias? tina de kai hylēs chōris epinoein tou pyros hypostasin ē pōs to hygron toutǭ estin trophē ē hosa legetai physikōteron, ou tou parontos logou estin. ekeino de pantōs pou phaneron ek tōn eirēmenōn, to gar pyr to tou chosmou ektos akribōs estin hē legomenē hyp’ autōn hylē" epeidēper ho hēlios kai hē selēnē katharoi katharōn ontes tēs theias dynameōs apexeuchthēsan tou pyros toutou ouden heautōn en tǭ pyri toutǭ hypoleipsantes meros, touto ēn hē hylē kath᾽ heautēn, to akribōs amikton pros tēn theian dynamin. hōste an kenōthę̄ kosmos tēs kat᾽ autou theias dyna- meōs, palin toiouton hypoleiphthēsetai pyr. pōs oun to pyr ē diaphtherei ti ē hyp’ allou phtharēsetai? pros gar tǭ to homoion hypo tou homoiou apathes einai —philon gar mallon tǭ homoiǭ to homoion — ouch horō pōs genēsetai hē phthora. ho gar genēsetai hē hylē tēs theias dynameōs apoxeuchtheisa, tout᾽ ēn prin kai memichthai pros autēn tēn theian dynamin. ei toinyn apoleitai erēmōtheisa tēs theias dynameōs, dia ti mē kai apōleto prin kai tēn theian dynamin <....> hē allē dēmiourgia, hina apolētai hē hylē, kai touto poiēsei mechris apeirou? kai ti to ophelos? ho gar mē egeneto ek tou prōtou boulēmatos, pōs ek tou deuterou genēsetai? ē tis ho logos theǭ anatheinai pragmata ha oud᾽ ep’ anthrōpou kalōs echei hyponoein? to gar adynaton prosestin tǭ boulesthai epi tōn toioutōn, pros tǭ mēde to boulesthai, kan dynaton hē, procheirōs chrēnai legein" plēn ei mē ti heteron theon kai ton epekeina ousias legousin, hōsper kainēn tina eisagousin hylēn kai ouchi tēn hypeilēmmenēn para tois noun echousin, hēn ē mē pantapasin ousan ho logos heuriskei ē to pantōn eschaton kai mogis eis ennoian nothon aphikneisthai dynamenon.

Their fire, burning but without light, which is outside the world: where is it placed? If it is upon the world, what is the cause of the world's remaining unharmed until now? If it is to destroy the world once it comes near, it is joined to it now as well. If it is apart, raised up as in a place of its own, what will make it fall upon the world later? How will it leave its own place? By what necessity and force? What subsistence of fire is to be conceived apart from matter, or how moisture is its food, and the other questions of natural philosophy, do not belong to the present argument. But this is surely plain from what has been said: the fire outside the world is precisely what they call matter. Since the sun and the moon, being pure and of the pure divine power, were separated from this fire and left no part of themselves in it, this was matter by itself, wholly unmixed with the divine power. So if the world is emptied of the divine power within it, such a fire will be left once more. How, then, will the fire either destroy anything or be destroyed by something else? Besides the fact that like is unaffected by like (for like is rather a friend to like), I do not see how the destruction will happen. What matter will be when it is separated from the divine power, it was before it was mixed with the divine power. If, then, it will perish when deserted by the divine power, why did it not perish before the divine power … or another creation, so that matter may perish, and he will do this without end? And what is the benefit? What did not happen by the first decision, how will it happen by the second? Or what reason is there to attribute to God things which it would not be right to suspect even of a man? In such matters impossibility attaches to willing, besides the fact that one ought not readily even to speak of willing, even if it is possible; unless they speak of some other God, the one beyond being, just as they bring in a new kind of matter, and not the one understood by men of sense, which reason finds either not to exist at all, or to be the last of all things, hardly reaching even a bastard conception.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

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Summary: Alexander argues that the dark fire outside the world is simply matter, and that it can neither destroy nor be destroyed as the Manichaeans claim.

  • 'Beyond being' is Plato, Republic 509b; matter grasped by a 'bastard' reasoning is Timaeus 52b. A gap in the text is marked by the editor with dots.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; OCR: Greek read as Latin letters; OCR: marginal page number; OCR: marginal page number inside a broken word): Τὺ δὲ πῦρ → Τὸ δὲ πῦρ; χωρές → χωρίς; xa ἑαυτήν → καθ᾽ ἑαυτήν; οὐχ δρῶ → οὐχ ὁρῶ; ἀπόληπαι → ἀπόληται; ‘nal τί → καὶ τί; δευ- Γι 1920 τέρου → δευτέρου; τιναρ.510 εἰσάγουσιν → τινα εἰσάγουσιν.

Extrabiblical texts: Plato, Resp. 509b; Tim. 52b (Plato (works); allusion)

Topics: Heresy, Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 26 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 38–39; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 27

27Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 39–40

ἀλλὰ γὰρ τὸ πῦρ τὸ ἀφεγγὲς ἄρά γε πλέον ἐστὶν τῆς μελλούσης ἐρημωθήσεσθαι ὕλης ὑπὸ. τῆς θείας δυνάμεως ἢ ἔλαττον; ἀλλ᾽ εἰ μὲν ἔλαττον, πῶς καταγωνιεῖται τὸ πλέον; εἰ δὲ πλέον, ἐπανάγειν μὲν αὐτὸ πρὸς αὑτὸ δυνήσεται τῆς αὐτῆς ὃν φύσεως, οὐ μὴν διαφθείρει γε αὐτό, ὥσπερ οὐδὲ ὁ Νεῖλος τοὺς ἀπ αὐτοῦ ἀποτεμνομένους κόλπους.

alla gar to pyr to aphenges ara ge pleon estin tēs mellousēs erēmōthēsesthai hylēs hypo. tēs theias dynameōs ē elatton? all᾽ ei men elatton, pōs katagōnieitai to pleon? ei de pleon, epanagein men auto pros hauto dynēsetai tēs autēs hon physeōs, ou mēn diaphtheirei ge auto, hōsper oude ho Neilos tous ap autou apotemnomenous kolpous.

But is the lightless fire greater than the matter that is to be deserted by the divine power, or less? If it is less, how will it overcome the greater? If it is greater, it will be able to draw it back to itself, being of the same nature, but it will not destroy it, just as the Nile does not destroy the bays cut off from it.

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Summary: Alexander concludes that the outer fire, being of the same nature as matter, could not destroy it.

  • The treatise ends here in Brinkmann's edition.

Topics: Heresy

Cite (SBL): Alexander of Lycopolis, Man. 27 (Brinkmann, Teubner 1895, 39–40; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/alexander-lycopolis-manichaeos/15/#p-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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