Against Marcion 4.22

Summary: The Transfiguration, where Christ appears in glory with Moses and Elijah and the Father's voice commands “hear him,” shows that Christ is the one foretold by the Creator's law and prophets, not their destroyer.

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Latin text · CSEL 47:491–496

Iam et hoc uel maxime erubescere debuisti, quod illum cum Moyse et Helia in secessu montis conspici pateris quorum destructor aduenerat. hoc scilicet intellegi uoluit uox illa de caelo: hic est filius meus dilectus, hunc audite, id est non Moysen iam et Heliam. ergo sufficiebat uox sola sine ostentatione Moysei et Heliae. definiendo enim, quem audirent, quoscumque alios uetuisset audiri. aut numquid Esaiam et Hieremiam ceterosque, quos non ostendit, permisit audiri, si uetuit quos ostendit? nunc et si praesentia illorum fuit necessaria, non utique in conloquio ostenderentur, quod familiaritatis indicium est, nec in consortio claritatis, quod dignationis et gratiae exemplum est, sed in sordibus aliquibus, quod destructionis argumentum est, immo in tenebris creatoris, quibus discutiendis erat missus, longe etiam discreti a claritate Christi, qui uoces et litteras ipsas eorum ab euangelio suo erat separaturus. sicin alienos demonstrat illos, dum secum habet? sic relinquendos decet quos sibi iungit? sic destruit quos de radiis suis exstruit? quid faceret Christus ipsorum? credo, secundum peruersitatem tales eos reuelasset, quales Christus Marcionis debuisset, aut quoscumque alios secum <ostendisset) quam prophetas suos. sed quid tam Christi creatoris quam secum ostendere praedicatores suos? cum illis uideri, quibus in reuelationibus erat uisus? cum illis loqui, qui eum fuerant locuti? cum eis gloriam suam communicare, a quibus dominus gloriae nuncupabatur? cum principalibus suis, quorum alter populi informator aliquando alter reformator quandoque, alter initiator ueteris testamenti alter consummator noui. igitur et Petrus, meritum contubernium Christi sui agnoscens, (in) indiuiduitatem eius suggerit consilium: bonum est hic nos esse, - bonum plane, ubi Moyses scilicet et Helias — et faciamus hic tria tabernacula, unum tibi et Moysi unum et Heliae unum. (sed nesciens, quid diceret. quomodo nesciens? utrumne simplici errore an ratione, qua defendimus in causa nouae prophetiae gratiae exstasin, id est amentiam, conuenire? in spiritu enim homo constitutus, praesertim cum gloriam dei conspicit uel cum per ipsum deus loquitur, necesse est excidat sensu, obumbratus scilicet uirtute diuina. de quo cum inter nos et psychicos quaestio est, interim facile est amentiam Petri probare. quomodo enim Moysen et Heliam cognouisset, [nisi in spiritu?] - nec enim imagines eorum uel statuas populus habuit. nec similitudines, lege prohibente - nisi quia in spiritu uiderat? et ita quod dixit, scilicet in spiritu non in sensu constitutus, scire non poterat. ceterum, si sic nesciit quasi errans, eo quod putaret illorum esse Christum, ergo iam constat et supra Petrum interrogatum a Christo, quem se existimarent, ut de creatoris dixisse: tu es Christus, quia, si tunc alterius dei illum cognouisset, hic quoque non errasset. quodsi ideo et hic errauit quia et supra, ergo certus es in illum diem quoque nullam nouam diuinitatem a Christo reuelatam et usque adhuc non errasse Petrum, Christo usque adhuc nihil eiusmodi reuelante, et tamdiu non alterius deputandum Christum quam creatoris, cuius omnem et hic ordinem expressit. tres de discentibus arbitros futurae uisionis et uocis adsumit. et hoc creatoris est: in tribus, inquit, testibus stabit omne uerbum. in montem secedit. agnosco formam loci. nam et pristinum populum apud montem et uisione et uoce sua creator initiarat. oportebat in eo suggestu consignari nouum testamentum, in quo conscriptum uetus fuerat, sub eodem etiam ambitu nubis, quem nemo dubitabit de aere creatoris conglobatum, — nisi (si) et nubes suas ille deduxerat — quia et ipse per caelum creatoris uiam ruperat. aut proinde et nubilo creatoris precario usus est? itaque nec nunc muta nubes fuit, sed uox solita de caelo et patris nouum testimonium super filio, ad quem in secundo psalmo: filius meus es tu, ego hodie genui te, de quo et per Esaiam: quis deum metuens? audiat uocem filii eius. itaque iam repraesentans eum - hic est filius meus - utique subaudit: quem repromisi. si enim repromisit aliquando et postea dicit: hic est, eius est exhibentis uoce uti in demonstratione promissi, qui aliquando promisit, non eius, cui possit responderi: 'ipse enim tu quis es qui dicas: hic est filius meus, de quo non magis praemisisti quam te ipsum, quod prius eras, reuelasti? hunc igitur audite! quem? (nisi quem) ab initio edixerat audiendum in nomine prophetae quoniam et prophetes existimari habebat a populo: prophetam, inquit Moyses, suscitabit nobis deus ex filiis uestris, secundum carnalem scilicet censum, tamquam me audietis illum. omnis autem qui illum non audierit, exterminabitur anima eius de populo suo. sic et Esaias: quis in uobis metuens (deum?) exaudiat uocem filii eius, quam et ipse pater commendaturus erat: sistens enim, inquit, uerba filii sui, dicendo scilicet: hic est filius meus dilectus, hunc audite. itaque et si facta translatio sit auditionis a Moyse et Helia in Christum, sed non ut ab alio deo nec ad alium Christum, sed a creatore in Christum eius, secundum decessionem ueteris et successionem noui testamenti: non legatus, inquit Esaias, nec nuntius, sed ipse deus saluos eos faciet, ipse iam praedicans et implens legem et prophetas. tradidit igitur pater filio discipulos nouos, ostensis prius cum illo Moyse et Helia in claritatis praerogatiua atque ita dimissis, quasi iam et officio et honore dispunctis, ut hoc ipsum confirmaretur propter Marcionem, societatem esse etiam claritatis Christi cum Moyse et Helia. totum autem habitum uisionis istius habemus etiam apud Abacuc, ubi spiritus ex persona interdum apostolorum: domine, audiui auditum tuum et extimui - quem magis quam uocis caelestis illius: hic est filius meus dilectus, hunc audite? — consideraui operam tuam (et) excidi mente - quando magis quam cum uisa claritate eius nesciit quid diceret Petrus? — in medio duorum animalium cognosceris, Moysi et Heliae, de quibus et Zacharias uidit in figura duarum olearum et duorum ramulorum oleae. nam hi sunt, de quibus dictum est illi: duo filii opimitatis adsistunt domino uniuersae terrae. et rursus idem Abacuc: operuit caelos uirtus, utique nubilo illo, et splendor eius ut lux erit, utique qua etiam uestitus eius refulsit. et si commemoremur promissionis Moysi, hic inuenietur expuncta. cum enim desiderasset conspectum domini Moyses dicens: si ergo inueni gratiam coram te, manifesta mihi te, ut cognoscenter uideam te, eum conspectum desiderans, in quo hominem esset acturus, quod propheta sciebat, — ceterum dei faciem, iam audierat, nemo homo uidebit et uiuet - et hunc, inquit, sermonem, quem dixisti, faciam tibi. et rursus Moyses: ostende mihi gloriam tuam. et dominus similiter de futuro: ego praecedam gloria mea, et reliqua. et in nouissimo: et tunc uidebis posteriora mea, non lumbos nec suras, sed quam desiderauerat gloriam in posterioribus temporibus reuelandam, in qua facie ad faciem uisibilem se ei repromiserat, etiam ad Aaronem dicens: et si fuerit prophetes in nobis, in uisione cognoscar illi et in uisione loquar ad eum, non quomodo ad Moysen; os ad os loquar ad eum, in specie — utique hominis, quam erat gestaturus — non in aenigmate. nam et si Marcion noluit eum conloquentem domino ostensum, sed stantem, tamen et stans os ad os stabat et faciem ad faciem, — cum illo, inquit, non extra illum — in gloria ipsius, nedum in conspectu. de qua gloria non aliter - inlustratus discessit a Christo quam solebat a creatore, proinde tunc oculos percutiens filiorum Israhelis, quemadmodum et nunc excaecati Marcionis, qui hoc quoque argumentum aduersus se facere non uidit.

English · Claude translation

Now you ought to have blushed most of all at this: that you allow him to be seen, on the retreat of the mountain, with Moses and Elijah, whom he had come to destroy. This, no doubt, is what that voice from heaven meant to be understood: “This is my beloved Son; hear him,” that is, no longer Moses and Elijah. Then the voice alone would have been enough, without a display of Moses and Elijah. For by defining whom they should hear, he would have forbidden any others whatever to be heard. Or did he allow Isaiah and Jeremiah and the rest, whom he did not display, to be heard, if he forbade those whom he displayed? Now, even if their presence was necessary, surely they would not have been shown in conversation with him, which is a sign of intimacy, nor sharing his glory, which is a token of esteem and favor, but in some squalor, which is a proof of destruction; or rather in the Creator's darkness, which he had been sent to scatter, set far apart even from the glory of Christ, who was going to separate their very words and writings from his gospel. Is this how he shows them to be strangers, by keeping them with him? Is this how one should abandon those whom he joins to himself? Is this how he destroys those whom he builds up with his own rays? What would their own Christ have done? I suppose, by this perversity, he would have revealed them as Marcion's Christ ought to have done, or would (have shown) any others at all with him rather than his own prophets. But what is so proper to the Creator's Christ as to show his own heralds with him? To be seen with those to whom he had appeared in revelations? To speak with those who had spoken of him? To share his glory with those by whom he had been called the Lord of glory? With his chief servants, one of whom was once the shaper of the people and the other at some time its reshaper, one the initiator of the old testament and the other the finisher of the new? So Peter too, recognizing the fitting company of his Christ, suggests a plan for keeping him (in) their company: “It is good for us to be here” — good indeed, where Moses and Elijah are, of course — “and let us make three tabernacles here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.” (But not knowing what he said. How not knowing? Was it by simple error, or on the principle by which we maintain, in the cause of the new prophecy, that ecstasy, that is, being out of one's mind, belongs to grace? For a man placed in the Spirit, especially when he beholds the glory of God or when God speaks through him, must of necessity lose his senses, being overshadowed, that is, by the divine power. Although there is a dispute on this between us and the psychics, meanwhile it is easy to prove that Peter was out of his mind. For how would he have recognized Moses and Elijah — for the people had no images or statues of them, nor likenesses, since the law forbade them — except because he had seen them in the Spirit? And so what he said, being placed in the Spirit and not in his senses, he could not know. But if he did not know in the sense of erring, because he thought the Christ belonged to them, then it is established that earlier too, when Christ asked whom they thought him to be, Peter said, “You are the Christ,” of the Creator's Christ; because, if he had then recognized him as another god's, he would not have erred here either. But if he erred here because he had erred earlier too, then you are certain that up to that day no new divinity had been revealed by Christ, that Peter had not erred up to then, since Christ up to then had revealed nothing of the kind, and that Christ must be reckoned no other's than the Creator's all that time, whose whole pattern he expressed here too. He takes three of his disciples as witnesses of the vision and voice to come. This too is the Creator's way: “On three witnesses,” he says, “every word shall stand.” He withdraws up a mountain. I recognize the pattern of the place. For the Creator too had initiated the ancient people at a mountain, with a vision and with his voice. It was fitting that the new testament should be sealed on that platform on which the old had been written, and under the same enveloping cloud, which no one will doubt was massed together from the Creator's air — unless he had brought down his own clouds too — since he too had forced his way through the Creator's sky. Or did he likewise use the Creator's cloud on loan? So neither now was the cloud mute, but there was the accustomed voice from heaven, and the Father's new testimony about the Son, to whom he says in the second psalm: “You are my Son; today I have begotten you,” and of whom also through Isaiah: “Who fears God? Let him hear the voice of his Son.” So, presenting him now — “This is my Son” — surely he implies: whom I promised. For if he once promised and afterward says, “This is he,” it belongs to one who once promised to use such words when pointing out the one promised, not to one to whom it could be answered: ‘Who are you yourself, to say, “This is my Son,” of whom you gave no more notice beforehand than you revealed yourself, what you were before?’ “Hear him,” then! Whom? (Who but the one whom) from the beginning he had declared must be heard, under the name of a prophet, since he was also to be thought a prophet by the people: “A prophet,” says Moses, “God will raise up for us from your sons” — according to fleshly descent, that is — “you shall hear him as you hear me. And everyone who will not hear him, his soul shall be cut off from his people.” So too Isaiah: “Who among you fears (God)? Let him hear the voice of his Son,” a voice which the Father himself was going to commend: “establishing,” he says, “the words of his Son,” namely by saying: “This is my beloved Son; hear him.” So even if the hearing was transferred from Moses and Elijah to Christ, it was not as from another god nor to another Christ, but from the Creator to his Christ, in keeping with the departure of the old testament and the succession of the new: “Not an envoy,” says Isaiah, “nor a messenger, but God himself will save them,” now himself preaching and fulfilling the law and the prophets. So the Father handed the new disciples over to the Son, after Moses and Elijah had first been shown with him in the privilege of glory and then dismissed, as though now discharged from both office and honor, so that this very point might be confirmed, for Marcion's sake: that Christ shares even his glory with Moses and Elijah.

The whole shape of this vision we have also in Habakkuk, where the Spirit speaks at times in the person of the apostles: “Lord, I have heard your report and was afraid” — at what, more than at that heavenly voice, “This is my beloved Son; hear him”? — “I considered your work (and) was out of my mind” — when more than when Peter, having seen his glory, did not know what he said? — “In the midst of two living creatures you will be known,” that is, Moses and Elijah, whom Zechariah too saw in the figure of two olive trees and two olive branches. For these are the ones of whom it was said to him: “The two sons of fatness stand by the Lord of the whole earth.” And again the same Habakkuk: “His power covered the heavens,” surely with that cloud, “and his splendor will be like light,” surely the light with which even his clothing shone. And if we recall the promise to Moses, it will be found fulfilled here. For Moses had longed for the sight of the Lord, saying: “If then I have found favor before you, show yourself to me, that I may see you knowingly,” longing for that sight in which the Lord would be acting as a man, as the prophet knew — for the face of God, he had already heard, no man shall see and live —; and the Lord said: “This word too, which you have spoken, I will do for you.” And again Moses: “Show me your glory.” And the Lord likewise, of the future: “I will go before you in my glory,” and the rest. And at the end: “And then you will see my back parts,” not the loins or the calves, but the glory he had longed for, to be revealed in the latter times, in which he had promised that he would be visible to him face to face, saying also to Aaron: “And if there is a prophet among you, I will be known to him in a vision and will speak to him in a vision, not as to Moses; mouth to mouth will I speak to him, in form” — surely the form of the man he was going to bear — “not in a riddle.” For even if Marcion did not want him shown conversing with the Lord, but only standing there, yet even standing he stood mouth to mouth and face to face — “with him,” it says, “not apart from him” — in his very glory, not merely in his sight. From that glory he departed from Christ illumined no differently than he used to depart from the Creator, dazzling the eyes of the sons of Israel then, just as now those of blinded Marcion, who did not see that this argument too tells against him.

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Source
CSEL 47:491–496 · Emil Kroymann, ed., Quinti Septimi Florentis Tertulliani Opera, Pars 3, CSEL 47 (Vienna: Tempsky; Leipzig: Freytag, 1906), 290–650 · Latin text: Emil Kroymann (CSEL 47), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in CSEL 47. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; the problem in this passage is discussed in the notes.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Latin text of CSEL 47; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 3 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)
Scripture
Topics
Christology, Heresy

Notes

Translation notes

  • The quotations and allusions are Luke 9:28–36; 1 Cor 2:8; Deut 19:15; Exod 19; Ps 2:7; Isa 50:10 (in a Greek-derived form); Deut 18:15, 19; Isa 63:9 (in the Greek form “not an envoy nor a messenger”); Hab 3:2–4 (in the Greek form “in the midst of two living creatures”); Zech 4:3, 11–14; Exod 33:13, 17–23; Exod 34:29–35; Num 12:6–8; 2 Cor 3:7. On the ecstasy of Peter Tertullian appeals to the teaching of the New Prophecy (Montanism) and calls its opponents in the church “psychics” (psychici), “unspiritual”; he wrote this book after joining that movement. The digital text has stray characters after “This is my Son” (1 … me U B), removed as junk. Words in parentheses are the editor's supplements; the editor deletes as a gloss the words nisi in spiritu (“except in the Spirit”) after “Moses and Elijah”; they are left out of the translation.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (letter misread and split word in the digital text; letter misread in the digital text; stray characters in the digital text; words run together in the digital text): familiaritatiindicium → familiaritatis indicium; Heliaeunum → Heliae unum; nonum testimonium → nouum testimonium; filius 1 meus me U B → filius meus; quem l epromisi → quem repromisi; traditit → tradidit.

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Tertullian, Marc. 4.22 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/4/22/).

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Tertullian, Marc. 4.22 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/tertullian-marcionem/4/22/).

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