On the Soul and the Resurrection 11–37

Greek text: PG 46.English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 5 (1893), "On the Soul and the Resurrection".

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Chapter 11

11PG 46:12a

Ἐπειδὴ τοῦ ἀνθρωπίνου βίου πρὸς Θεὸν μετέστη ὀ πολὺς ὲν ἁγίοις Βασίλειος, καὶ κοινὴ πένθους ἀφορμὴ ταῖς Ἑκκλησίαις ἐγένετο, περιῆν δὲ ἔτι τῷ βίῳ ἡ ἀδελφὴ καὶ διδάσκαλος, ἐγὼ μὲν ᾔειν κατὰ σπουο δὴν κοινωνήσων ἐκείνῃ τῆς ἐπὶ τῷ ἀδελφῷ συμφορᾶς. Καί μοι περιώδυνος ἦν ὴ ψυχὴ, πρὸς τοιαύτην ζημίαν ὑπεραλγοῖηα, καί τινα τῶν δακρύων κοινωνδν ἐπεζήτουν τὸν ἴσον ἔχοντά μοι τῆς λύπης ἄχθος. Ὠς δὲ ὲν ὀφθαλμοῖς ἦμεν ἀλλήλων, ἐμοὶ μὲν ἀνεκίνει τὸ πάθος προφανεῖσα τοῖς ὀφθαλμοῖς ή διδάσκαλος · καὶ γὰρ ἢδη καὶ αὑτὴ τῇ πρὸς θάνατον ἀρρωστίᾳ συνείχετο. Ἡ δὲ … τοὺς τῆς ἱππικῆς ἐπιστήμονας ἔνδοῠσά μοι πρὸς ὀλίγον παρενεχθῆναι τῇ ῥύμῃ τοῦ πάθους, ἁναστομοῦν ἐπεχείρει μετὰ ταῦτα τῷ λόγῳ, καθάπερ χαλινῷ τινιτῷ ίδίῳ λογισμῷ τὸ ἀτακτοῦν τῆς ψυχῆς ἀπευθύνουσα, καὶ ἦν

Epeidē tou anthrōpinou biou pros Theon metestē o polys en hagiois Basileios, kai koinē penthous aphormē tais Hekklēsiais egeneto, periēn de eti tǭ biǭ hē adelphē kai didaskalos, egō men ę̄ein kata spouo dēn koinōnēsōn ekeinę̄ tēs epi tǭ adelphǭ symphoras. Kai moi periōdynos ēn ē psychē, pros toiautēn zēmian hyperalgoiēa, kai tina tōn dakryōn koinōndn epezētoun ton ison echonta moi tēs lypēs achthos. Ōs de en ophthalmois ēmen allēlōn, emoi men anekinei to pathos prophaneisa tois ophthalmois ē didaskalos ; kai gar ēdē kai hautē tę̄ pros thanaton arrōstią syneicheto. Hē de … tous tēs hippikēs epistēmonas endousa moi pros oligon parenechthēnai tę̄ rhymę̄ tou pathous, hanastomoun epecheirei meta tauta tǭ logǭ, kathaper chalinǭ tinitǭ idiǭ logismǭ to ataktoun tēs psychēs apeuthynousa, kai ēn

When Basil, great among the saints, had departed from human life to God, and a common cause of mourning had come upon the churches, while his sister and my teacher was still living, I went in haste to share with her the misfortune of our brother. My soul was in deep pain, grieving excessively at such a loss, and I sought someone to share my tears who bore a burden of grief equal to mine. When we were in each other’s sight, the appearance of my teacher before my eyes stirred my grief again; for she too was already in the grip of the illness that led to her death. But she, like those skilled in horsemanship, gave way to me for a little while, letting me be carried along by the rush of my grief, and afterward tried to curb me with reason, guiding the disorder of my soul by her own reasoning as with a bridle; and she was …

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Summary: After Basil’s death Gregory visits his dying sister Macrina, who first lets him grieve and then begins to restrain his grief by reason.

  • Opening of the dialogue. Gregory narrates in the first person; his sister Macrina, called “the teacher,” is the main speaker. The unit breaks off at the end of Migne’s page; the following lines are lost in the scan (marked …).

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  • Digital text corrected (OCR debris (Latin letters)): Ἠ suae τοὺς → Ἡ δὲ … τοὺς.

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 11 (PG 46:12a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-11). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 13

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ειναι. A. Κάγὼ περιζεούσης ἔτι μοι τῆς καρδίας τῇ λύπῃ Ulli); ἐστιν, εἷποννὲν ἀνθρώποις τοῦτο κατορθωθῆναι, οὕτως ὲν ἑκάστῳ φυσικοῦ τινος πρὸς τὸν θάνατον τῆς διαβολῆς ὑπαρχούσης. καὶ οὔτε τῶν ὁρώντων τοὺς ἀποθνήσκοντας εὺκὸλως καταδεχομένων τὴν θέαν, οἷς τε ἂν προσίῃ ὁ θάνατος ἀποφευγόντων ἐφʼ ὅσον οἷόν τε ; Ἀλλὰ καὶ τῶν ἐπικρατούντων νόμον ἔςχατον ἐν ἀδικίαις καὶ ἔσχατον ὲν τιμωρίαις τοῦτο κρινόντων,τίς μηχανὴ τὸ μηδὲν ἡγεῖσθαι τὴν τοῦ ζῇν ἀναχώρησιν, καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν ἔξω τινὸς μὴ δτιγετῶν ἐπιτηδείων, ὅταν τοῦ βίου λήγωσιν; Ὀρῶμεν δὲ, εἷπον, καὶ πᾶσαν τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην σπουδὴν πρὸς τοῦτο βλέπουσαν, ὅπως ἂν ὲν τῷ ζῇν διαμένοιμεν. Διὰ τοῦτο γὰρ καὶ οἶκοι πρὸς διαγωγὴν 7)ή μίν ἑπινενὸηνται, ὡς ἂν μὴ τῷ περιέχοντι διὰ ψύξεως ἢ Α θερμότητος καταπονοῖτο τὰ σώματα. Γ εωπονία δὲ τί ἄλλο καὶ οὐχὶ τοῦ ζῇν ἐστιπαρασκευής 'll δὲ τῆς ζωῆς φροντὶς πάντως διὰ τὸν τοῦ θανάτου φόβον γίνεται. Ἡ δὲ ἰατρικὴ πόθεν τιμία τοῖς ἀνθρώποις ἐστίν ; Οὐκ ἐπειδὴ μάχεσθαί πως διὰ τῆς τέχνης δοκεῖ πρὸς τὸν θάνατον; Θώρακες δὲ, καὶ θυρεοὶ, καὶ κνημῖδες, καὶ κράνη, καὶ τὰ ἁμυντήρια τῶν ὅπλων, καὶ αἱ τῶν τειχῶν περιβολαὶ, καὶ σιδηρόδετοι πύλαι, καὶ ὴ τῶν τάφρων aerariis“ καὶ τὰ seuit-ra, τί ἄλλο πλὴν διὰ τον τοῦ θανάτου γίνεται φόὃον; Οὕτως οὖν ὗντος φοβεροῦ φυσικῶς τοῦ θανάτου, πῶς ἔστι ῥᾳδίως πεισθῆναι τῷ κελεύοντι ἄλυπον διαμέ-

einai. A. Kagō perizeousēs eti moi tēs kardias tę̄ lypę̄ Ulli)? estin, heiponnen anthrōpois touto katorthōthēnai, houtōs en hekastǭ physikou tinos pros ton thanaton tēs diabolēs hyparchousēs. kai oute tōn horōntōn tous apothnēskontas eukolōs katadechomenōn tēn thean, hois te an prosię̄ ho thanatos apopheugontōn ephʼ hoson hoion te ? Alla kai tōn epikratountōn nomon eschaton en adikiais kai eschaton en timōriais touto krinontōn,tis mēchanē to mēden hēgeisthai tēn tou zę̄n anachōrēsin, kai epi tōn exō tinos mē dtigetōn epitēdeiōn, hotan tou biou lēgōsin? Orōmen de, heipon, kai pasan tēn anthrōpinēn spoudēn pros touto blepousan, hopōs an en tǭ zę̄n diamenoimen. Dia touto gar kai oikoi pros diagōgēn 7)ē min hepinenoēntai, hōs an mē tǭ periechonti dia psyxeōs ē A thermotētos kataponoito ta sōmata. G eōponia de ti allo kai ouchi tou zę̄n estiparaskeuēs 'll de tēs zōēs phrontis pantōs dia ton tou thanatou phobon ginetai. Hē de iatrikē pothen timia tois anthrōpois estin ? Ouk epeidē machesthai pōs dia tēs technēs dokei pros ton thanaton? Thōrakes de, kai thyreoi, kai knēmides, kai kranē, kai ta hamyntēria tōn hoplōn, kai hai tōn teichōn peribolai, kai sidērodetoi pylai, kai ē tōn taphrōn aerariis“ kai ta seuit-ra, ti allo plēn dia ton tou thanatou ginetai phooon? Houtōs oun hyntos phoberou physikōs tou thanatou, pōs esti rhądiōs peisthēnai tǭ keleuonti alypon diame-

… to be. Gregory: And I, my heart still boiling with grief, said: “How is it possible for this to be achieved among human beings, when there is in each a natural aversion to death, and those who see the dying do not easily bear the sight, while those whom death approaches flee it as far as they can? Even the rulers judge it the extreme law in crimes and the extreme penalty in punishments. What means is there to think the departure from life as nothing, even in the case of strangers, not to speak of friends, when their life ends? We see,” I said, “that all human effort looks to this, that we may remain alive. For this reason houses have been devised for us to live in, so that our bodies may not be distressed by the surrounding air through cold or heat. And what else is farming but a provision for living? And care for life arises entirely from the fear of death. Why is medicine honoured among men? Is it not because by its art it seems in some way to fight against death? Breastplates and shields, greaves and helmets, and the defensive weapons, the encircling walls, iron-bound gates, the safety of trenches and the like, what else are they made for but the fear of death? Since death is thus naturally fearful, how can one easily be persuaded by one who bids us remain without grief …

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Summary: Gregory objects that grief at death is natural: all human effort, from houses and farming to medicine and armour, springs from the fear of death.

  • The unit begins and ends mid-sentence because lines at the edges of Migne’s pages are lost in the scan (marked …). Speaker labels (Gregory, Macrina) follow the edition’s marginal letters Γ. and Μ. Several words in the list of defences are garbled and translated by sense (“the safety of trenches and the like”).

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 13 (PG 46:13a–13d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-13). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 15

15PG 46:16a–16d

IEW ἐπὶ τοῦ κατοιχομένου τὸν περιόντας -ΜΧΠ δὲ, φησὶν ἡ διδάςκαλος, τί σοι μαλιστα λυπηρὸν αὐτὸ ἐφʼ ἑαυτοῦ, τὸ τοῦ Θανάτου δοκεῖ; οὐ γάρ ικανδν εἰς διαβολὴν ἡτῶν ἀλογωτέρων συνήθεια.-Γ. Τι μὲν οὖν οὐκ ἔστι λύπης ἄξιον, πρὸς αὐτὴν εἷπον ἐγὼ, ὅταν βλέπωμεν τὸν τέως ζῶντά τε καὶ φθεγγόμενον, ἄπνουν κα). ἄναυδον καὶ ἀκίνητον ἀθρόως γενόμενον, καὶ πάντα αὐτῶν σὸεσβἑντα τὰ φυσικὰ αἰσθητήρια, οὐκ adeo); οὐκ ἀκοῆς ἐνεργούσης, οὐκ ἄλλου τινος ὧν ἡ αἴσθησις τὴν ἀντΰιηψιν ἔχει; ᾯ κᾶν πῦρ προσενέγκῃς, κᾶν σίδηρον, κᾶν ἁνατέμῃς διὰ ξίφους τδ σῶμα, κᾶν τοῖς σαρκοβὁροις προῦῇς, κᾶν ἐγκρύψῃς χώματι, πρὸς ἅπαντα. ὁμοίως ὁ κείμενος ἔχει. Ὅταν οὖν ὲν τούτοις βλέπηται (ΜΗ) μεταβολὴ, τὸ δὲ Βν ζωτικὸν ἐκεῖνο αἴτιον, ὃ τῑ ποτε ἦν, ἀφανές τε κα). ἄδολον ἀορίίως γένηται, καθάπερ ἐπὶ λύχνου σεεςῧζντος τῆς τέως ἐξαπτομένης ἐφʼ ἑαυτοῦ φλογὸς οὒτε ἐπὶετῆς Θρυαλλίδος μενούσης, οὔτε ἑτέρωΟί που μεθισταμένης. ἀλλʼ εἰς ἀφανισμὸν παντελῆ μεταχωρούσης, πῶς ἂν γένοιτο τὴν τοσαύτην μετα.βολὴν ἐνεγκεῖν ἀλύπως μηδενὶ, προδήλως ἐπερειδόμενον; "Ege/30v γὰρ ψυχῆς ἀκούσαντες, τὸ μὲν ὑπολειφθὲν ὁρῶμεν, τὺ δὲ χωρισΊὲν ἀγνοοῦμεν, αὑτὸ τε ὃ τε ποτε κατά τὴν φύσιν ἐστὶ, καὶ εἰς ὃ τι μετακεχὼρηκεν, οὗ γῆς, οὐκ ἀέρος, οὐχ ὓδατος, οὐκ ἄλλου τινὸς τῶν στοιχείων ὲν ἑαυτῷ δεικνύντος ἐκείνην τὴν (Η) δύναμιν τὴν τοῦ σώματος ἐκχωρήτασαν · ἧς ὑπεξελοούσης νεκρόν ἐστι τὸ ὑπολειφθὲν κα). πρὸς διαφθορὰν ἤδη ἐκκείμενον (Η).

IEW epi tou katoichomenou ton periontas -MChP de, phēsin hē didaskalos, ti soi malista lypēron auto ephʼ heautou, to tou Thanatou dokei? ou gar ikandn eis diabolēn hētōn alogōterōn synētheia.-G. Ti men oun ouk esti lypēs axion, pros autēn heipon egō, hotan blepōmen ton teōs zōnta te kai phthengomenon, apnoun ka). anaudon kai akinēton athroōs genomenon, kai panta autōn soesbenta ta physika aisthētēria, ouk adeo)? ouk akoēs energousēs, ouk allou tinos hōn hē aisthēsis tēn antÿiēpsin echei? Hǭ kan pyr prosenenkę̄s, kan sidēron, kan hanatemę̄s dia xiphous td sōma, kan tois sarkoborois prouę̄s, kan enkrypsę̄s chōmati, pros hapanta. homoiōs ho keimenos echei. Hotan oun en toutois blepētai (MĒ) metabolē, to de Bn zōtikon ekeino aition, ho ti pote ēn, aphanes te ka). adolon aoriiōs genētai, kathaper epi lychnou seesÿzntos tēs teōs exaptomenēs ephʼ heautou phlogos oute epietēs Thryallidos menousēs, oute heterōOi pou methistamenēs. allʼ eis aphanismon pantelē metachōrousēs, pōs an genoito tēn tosautēn meta.bolēn enenkein alypōs mēdeni, prodēlōs epereidomenon? "Ege/30v gar psychēs akousantes, to men hypoleiphthen horōmen, ty de chōrisIen agnooumen, hauto te ho te pote kata tēn physin esti, kai eis ho ti metakechōrēken, hou gēs, ouk aeros, ouch hydatos, ouk allou tinos tōn stoicheiōn en heautǭ deiknyntos ekeinēn tēn (Ē) dynamin tēn tou sōmatos ekchōrētasan ; hēs hypexeloousēs nekron esti to hypoleiphthen ka). pros diaphthoran ēdē ekkeimenon (Ē).

… over the departed, the survivors? Macrina: “What,” said my teacher, “seems to you most painful about death in itself? For the habit of the more irrational is not sufficient ground to condemn it.” Gregory: “What is there, then, not worthy of grief,” I said to her, “when we see one who until now was living and speaking suddenly become breathless, voiceless, and motionless, and all his natural senses quenched, no sight, no hearing working, nor any other of the things perceived by sense? Bring fire to him, or iron, cut his body with a sword, throw him to carnivorous beasts, hide him in earth: the one lying there is alike toward everything. When, then, such a change is seen in these things, and that life-giving cause, whatever it was, has suddenly become invisible and unknown, as when a lamp is put out and the flame that until then was burning by itself neither remains on the wick nor moves somewhere else but passes into complete disappearance, how could anyone bear such a change without grief, having nothing plain to lean on? For when we hear of the departure of the soul, we see what is left, but we do not know what has been separated, either what it is by nature or where it has gone, since neither earth nor air nor water nor any other of the elements shows in itself that power which has departed from the body, at whose withdrawal what is left is a corpse and already exposed to corruption.”

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Summary: Asked what is most painful about death, Gregory describes the dead body and the disappearance of the soul, which no element shows to have gone anywhere.

  • Some words at the start of the unit are lost or garbled in the scan (marked …). The lamp image compares the soul’s departure to a flame going out.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 15 (PG 46:16a–16d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-15). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 17

17PG 46:17a–17d

Γ. Ταῦταδέ μου διεξιόντος μεταξὺ κατασείσῖτα τῇ χειρὶὴδιδάσκαλος--ΜΛῙή τίς σε τοιοῦτος. φησὶ, φόβος ὑποταράπσει καὶ συνέχει τὴν διάνοιαν, ὡς οὐ διαμενού ι-ης εἰς ἀεὶ τῆς ψυχῆς, ἀλλὰ συγκαταληγούσης τῇ διαλύσει τοῦ σώματο;; -Γ. Ἐγὼ δὲ (καὶ γὰρ οὔπω τοῦ πάθους τὸν λογιcui» ἀνεδεξάμην) θρασύτερον πως ἀπεκρινάμην, οὔ πάνυ περισκεψάμενος τὸ λεγόμενον. Εἶπον γὰρ ἐπιτάγμασιν ἐοικέναι τὰς θείας φωνὰς, διʼ ὧν τὸ μὲν δεῖν πεπεῖσθαι τὴν ψυχὴν εἰσαεὶ διαμένειν ἀναγκαζόμεθα, οὐ μὴν λόγῳ τινὶ τῷ τοιούτῳ προσήχθημεν ξκιγματι. ἐυ-λʼ ἔοικεν ἡμῖν δουλικῶς ἔνδοθεν ὁ νοῦς φόβῳ τὸ κελευόμενον δέχεσθαι, οὐχ ἑκουσίᾳ τινὶ ὁρμῇ τοῖς λεγομένοις συντίθεσθαι. Ὅθεν καὶ fligi-rapat ἡμῖν ἐπὶ τῶν κατοικουμένων αἱ λύπαι γίνονται [οὐκ] ἀκριβῶς ἐπισταμένων ἡ μῶν, εἴτʼ ἔτι éstl. καθʼ αὐτὸ τοῦτο τὸ ζωοποιὺν αἴτιον, καὶ ὅπη, καὶ ὅπως, εἴτε οὐκ ἔστιν οὐδαμῆ οὐδαμῶς. Ἴσας γὰρ ποιεῖ τοῦ ἀληθῶς ὄντος ἀδηλία τὰς ἐφʼ ἑκάτερον ὑπολείψεις. Καὶ πολλοῖς μὲν τοῦτο, πολλοῖς δὲ τὸ ἐναντίον δοκεῖ. Καὶ εἰσί γέ τινες παρὰ τοῖς ’Ἓλλησιν οὺ μικρὰν ἔχοντες ἐπὶ φιλοσοφίᾳ τὴν δόξαν, οἳ ταῦτα ᾠήθησαν τε καὶ ἀπεοήναντο. -Μ. Ἔα, (meiut-oi); ἔξωθεν λήρους, ἐν οἷς ὁ τοῦ ψεύδους εὑρέτης ἐπὶ βλάβῃ τῆς ἀληθείας πιθανῶς τὰς ἡπατημένοις ὑπολήψεις συντίθησιν· σὺ δὲ πρὸς τοῦτο βλέπε, ὅτι τὸ οὕτως περ). ψυχῆς ἔχειν, οὐδὲν ἄλλο ἐστὶν ἢ ἀλλότριον πρὸς τὴν ἀρετὴν ἔχειν. καὶ πρὸς τὸ παρὸν ἡδὺ μόνον βλέπειν τὴν δὲ τοῖς αἰῶσιν ἐνοεωρουμένην ζωὴν ἀπʼ ἐλπίδος ποιεῖσθαι, καθʼ ἣν μόνη ἡ ἀρετὴ τὺ πλεῖον ἔχει. -Γ. Καὶ πῶς, ἔφην, γένοιτʼ ἂν ἡμῖν παγὶα (οι) τις καὶ ἁμετὰθετος ἡ περ). τοῦ διαμένειν τὴν ψυχὴν δόξας

G. Tautade mou diexiontos metaxy kataseisita tę̄ cheiriēdidaskalos--MLIē tis se toioutos. phēsi, phobos hypotarapsei kai synechei tēn dianoian, hōs ou diamenou i-ēs eis aei tēs psychēs, alla synkatalēgousēs tę̄ dialysei tou sōmato?? -G. Egō de (kai gar oupō tou pathous ton logicui» anedexamēn) thrasyteron pōs apekrinamēn, ou pany periskepsamenos to legomenon. Eipon gar epitagmasin eoikenai tas theias phōnas, diʼ hōn to men dein pepeisthai tēn psychēn eisaei diamenein anankazometha, ou mēn logǭ tini tǭ toioutǭ prosēchthēmen xkigmati. eu-lʼ eoiken hēmin doulikōs endothen ho nous phobǭ to keleuomenon dechesthai, ouch hekousią tini hormę̄ tois legomenois syntithesthai. Hothen kai fligi-rapat hēmin epi tōn katoikoumenōn hai lypai ginontai [ouk] akribōs epistamenōn hē mōn, eitʼ eti estl. kathʼ auto touto to zōopoiyn aition, kai hopē, kai hopōs, eite ouk estin oudamē oudamōs. Isas gar poiei tou alēthōs ontos adēlia tas ephʼ hekateron hypoleipseis. Kai pollois men touto, pollois de to enantion dokei. Kai eisi ge tines para tois ’Hellēsin ou mikran echontes epi philosophią tēn doxan, hoi tauta ǭēthēsan te kai apeoēnanto. -M. Ea, (meiut-oi)? exōthen lērous, en hois ho tou pseudous heuretēs epi blabę̄ tēs alētheias pithanōs tas hēpatēmenois hypolēpseis syntithēsin; sy de pros touto blepe, hoti to houtōs per). psychēs echein, ouden allo estin ē allotrion pros tēn aretēn echein. kai pros to paron hēdy monon blepein tēn de tois aiōsin enoeōroumenēn zōēn apʼ elpidos poieisthai, kathʼ hēn monē hē aretē ty pleion echei. -G. Kai pōs, ephēn, genoitʼ an hēmin pagia (oi) tis kai hametathetos hē per). tou diamenein tēn psychēn doxas

Gregory: While I was going through this, my teacher, motioning with her hand, said: Macrina: “Is it such a fear that disturbs and grips your mind, that the soul does not remain forever but ends together with the dissolution of the body?” Gregory: And I, for I had not yet recovered my reasoning from my grief, answered rather rashly, without considering what was said very carefully. I said that the divine words seem like commands, by which we are compelled to believe that the soul remains forever, but we have not been brought to such a belief by any reasoning; rather, it seems that our mind within slavishly accepts by fear what is commanded, not agreeing with what is said by any willing impulse. “That is why,” I said, “our griefs over the departed become sharper, since we do not know exactly whether this life-giving cause still exists by itself, and where and how, or whether it does not exist anywhere in any way. For uncertainty about what truly is makes the suppositions on either side equal. Many hold this, and many the opposite. And there are some among the Greeks of no small reputation in philosophy who have thought and declared these things.” Macrina: “Away,” she said, “with that outside nonsense, in which the inventor of falsehood, to the harm of the truth, plausibly constructs suppositions for those he has deceived. But look at this: to hold such a view of the soul is nothing else than to be estranged from virtue, to look only to present pleasure, and to despair of the life seen in the ages, in which virtue alone has the advantage.” Gregory: “And how,” I said, “could we come to have a firm and unchangeable belief in the soul’s remaining …?”

John 8:44 (echo, medium confidence)

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Summary: Macrina asks whether Gregory fears that the soul perishes with the body; he admits that faith in its survival rests on command rather than reason, and she replies that such doubt destroys virtue.

  • The edition prints a bracketed “not” ([οὐκ]) in “since we do not know exactly”; the sense requires the negative, and it is translated. “Outside nonsense” refers to pagan philosophy; “the inventor of falsehood” is the devil (John 8:44). The unit ends mid-sentence (marked …).

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 17 (PG 46:17a–17d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 19

19PG 46:20a–20d

Λίσθάνομαι γὰρ καὶ αὐτὸς, δτι τοῦ καλλίστω τῶν κατὰ τὴν ζωὴν (τῆς ἀρετῆς λέγω) ὁ τῶν ἀνθρώπων χηρεύσει βίος, ει μή τις ὰναμφίΰολος ἡ περὶ τούτου πίστις ὲν ἡμῖν κρατυνθείη. Πῶς γὰρ ἐστι τὴν ἀρετὴν χώραν ἔχειν ἐφʼ ὧν ἡ παροῦσα ζωὴ περιγράφειν τὸ εἶναι ὑπείληπται, καὶ πλέον ἐλπίζεται μετὰ ταύτηνοπένς-Μ, οὐκοῦν ζητῆσαι χρὴ, φησὶν ὴδιδάσκαλος, ὅθεν ἂν ἡμῖν τὴν δέουσαν περ) τούτων ἀρχὴν ό λόγος λάβῃ. Καὶ εί δοκεῖ, παρὰ σοῦ γενέσθω τῶν ἐναντίων δογμάτων ἡ συμμαχίαο όρῶ γὰρ ὅτι σοι καὶ ὐποκεκίνηται πρὸς τοιαύτην καταφορὰν ὴ διάνοια. Εἴθʼ οὕτως ὁ τῆς ἀληθείας μετὰ τὴν ἀντίθεσιν ἀναζητηθήσεταιλῆγος.- Γ. Ἐπειδὴ τοῦτο ἐκέλευσε, παραιτησάμενος αὐτὴν μὴ ιατὰ ἀλήθειαν οἰηθῆναι τὰ παρʼ ἡμῶν ἀντιλέεσθαι. ἀλλʼ ὑπὲρ τοῦ βεβαίως κατασκευασθῆναι τὸ περὶ ψυχῆς δόγμα, τῶν ἀντιπιπτόντων πρὸς τὸν »:on τοῦτον ὑπεκλνθέντων· Ἦ που. ἔφην, ταῦτα ἂν εἴποιεν οἱ τῷ ἐναντίῳ παριστάμενοιλόγῳ, ὅτιτὸ σῶμα σύνθετον ὃν, πάντως εἰς τὰ, ἐξ ὧν συνέστηκε, διαλύεται; Λυοείσης δὲ τῶν στοιχείων τῆς ὲν τῷ σώματι συμφυῖας, ἐπὶ τὸ οἰκεῖον ὲν ἑκάστῳ γίνεται κατὰ τὸ εἰκὸς ἡ ῥοπὴ αὐτῆς φύσεως τῶν στοιχείων, διʼ ὁλκῆς τινος ἀναγκαίας τῇ ὁμογενεῑ τὸ οἰκεῖον ἀποδιδούσης. Τῷ τε γὰρ θερμῷ πάλιν τδ ὲν ἡμῖν ἑνωοήσεται, καὶ τῷ στεῤῥῷ τὸ γεῶδες, καὶ τῶν λοιπῶν ἑκάστῳ πρὸς τὺ συγγενὲς ἡ μεταχώρησις γίνεται. Ἡ οὖν ψυχὴ μετὰ τοῦτο ποῦ lerat; El μὲν γὰρ ὲν τοῖς στοιχείοις εῐναί τις λέγοι, τὴν αὐτὴν εἶναι τούτοις κατʼ ἀνάγκην συνθήσεται. Οὐ γὰρ ἂν γένοιτό τις τοῦ ἑτεροφυοῦς πρὸς τὸ ἀλλότριον μίξις, καὶ, εί ταῦτα εἴη, ποικίλη τις πάντως ἀναφανήσεται ἡ πρὸς τὰς ἐναντίας μεμιγμένη ποιότητας, τὸ δὲ ποικίλον ἁπλοῦν οὐκ ἔστιν, ἀλλʼ ὲν συνθέσει θεωρεῖται πάντως. Πᾶν δὲ τὸ σύνθετον καὶ διαλυτὸν ἐξ ἀνάγκης · ἡ δὲ διάλυσις φθορὰ τοῦ συνεστῶτός ἐστι. Τὸ δὲ φθειρόμενον

Listhanomai gar kai autos, dti tou kallistō tōn kata tēn zōēn (tēs aretēs legō) ho tōn anthrōpōn chēreusei bios, ei mē tis anamphiÿolos hē peri toutou pistis en hēmin kratyntheiē. Pōs gar esti tēn aretēn chōran echein ephʼ hōn hē parousa zōē perigraphein to einai hypeilēptai, kai pleon elpizetai meta tautēnopens-M, oukoun zētēsai chrē, phēsin ēdidaskalos, hothen an hēmin tēn deousan per) toutōn archēn o logos labę̄. Kai ei dokei, para sou genesthō tōn enantiōn dogmatōn hē symmachiao orō gar hoti soi kai ypokekinētai pros toiautēn kataphoran ē dianoia. Eithʼ houtōs ho tēs alētheias meta tēn antithesin anazētēthēsetailēgos.- G. Epeidē touto ekeleuse, paraitēsamenos autēn mē iata alētheian oiēthēnai ta parʼ hēmōn antileesthai. allʼ hyper tou bebaiōs kataskeuasthēnai to peri psychēs dogma, tōn antipiptontōn pros ton »:on touton hypeklnthentōn; Ē pou. ephēn, tauta an eipoien hoi tǭ enantiǭ paristamenoilogǭ, hotito sōma syntheton hon, pantōs eis ta, ex hōn synestēke, dialyetai? Lyoeisēs de tōn stoicheiōn tēs en tǭ sōmati symphuias, epi to oikeion en hekastǭ ginetai kata to eikos hē rhopē autēs physeōs tōn stoicheiōn, diʼ holkēs tinos anankaias tę̄ homogenei to oikeion apodidousēs. Tǭ te gar thermǭ palin td en hēmin henōoēsetai, kai tǭ sterrhǭ to geōdes, kai tōn loipōn hekastǭ pros ty syngenes hē metachōrēsis ginetai. Hē oun psychē meta touto pou lerat? El men gar en tois stoicheiois einai tis legoi, tēn autēn einai toutois katʼ anankēn synthēsetai. Ou gar an genoito tis tou heterophyous pros to allotrion mixis, kai, ei tauta eiē, poikilē tis pantōs anaphanēsetai hē pros tas enantias memigmenē poiotētas, to de poikilon haploun ouk estin, allʼ en synthesei theōreitai pantōs. Pan de to syntheton kai dialyton ex anankēs ; hē de dialysis phthora tou synestōtos esti. To de phtheiromenon

For I myself perceive that human life will be bereft of the finest thing in life, I mean virtue, unless an undoubting faith about this is established in us. For how can virtue have any place in those who suppose that the present life is the limit of their existence and hope for nothing more after it?” Macrina: “We must seek, then,” said my teacher, “where our discussion should properly begin on these things. And if you like, let the alliance of the opposing doctrines come from you; for I see that your mind is somewhat moved toward such a conclusion. Then the account of the truth will be sought after the objection.” Gregory: Since she commanded this, I begged her not to think that I was objecting in earnest, but that the objections to the doctrine might be raised so that the teaching about the soul might be firmly established. “Would not those,” I said, “who stand by the opposite account say this: that the body, being composite, is certainly dissolved into the things of which it is composed; and when the natural union of the elements in the body is dissolved, the inclination of the nature of the elements, as is likely, goes to what is proper to each, a necessary attraction giving back what is its own to what is of its own kind? For the heat in us will be united again with heat, and the earthy with the solid, and each of the rest passes to its kin. Where, then, is the soul after this? If one says that it is in the elements, he will necessarily agree that it is the same as they; for there could be no mixture of something of a different nature with what is foreign to it; and if this were so, it would certainly appear as something varied, mixed with opposite qualities; but what is varied is not simple, but is certainly seen in composition; and everything composite is necessarily dissoluble; and dissolution is the destruction of what was constituted; and what is destroyed …”

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Summary: Gregory, at Macrina’s request, states the materialist objection: when the body dissolves into its elements, the soul either is one of them and so perishes, or has nowhere to be.

  • Gregory raises the objections at Macrina’s bidding, stating that he does not hold them himself.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 19 (PG 46:20a–20d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 21

21PG 46:21a–21d

οὐκ ἀθάνατονο ἢ οὕτως γε ἂν καὶ ἡ σὰρξ ἀθάνατος λέγοιτο, είς τὰ, ἐξ ὧν συνέστηκε, λυομένη. El δὲ ἄλλο τί που παρὰ ταῦτά ἔστι, ποῦ λόγος αὐτὴν εἶναι ὑποτίθεται, ὲν μὲν τοῖς στοιχείοις διὰ τοῦ ἑτεροφυῶς αὐτὴν ἔχειν οὐχ εὐρισκομένην, ἄλλου δὲ οὐδενὸς ὲν τῷ κόσμῳ ὄντος, ὲν ᾧ γένοιτʼ ἂν ἡψυχὴ καταλλήλως τῇ ἰδίᾳ φύσει ὲμβιοτεύουσα ; '0 δὲ μηδαμῆ ἐστιν, οὐδέ ἐστι πάντως. Μ. Καὶήδιδάσκαλος ἡρέμα τοῖς ῥηθεῖσιν ἐπιστενάξασα, Τάχα που ταῦτα καὶτὰ τοιαῦτα, φησι, πρὸς τὸν Ἀπόστολαν ὲν Ἀθήναις ποτὲ συστάντες προέφεροί Στωϊκοί τε καὶ Ἑπικού ρειοι. Καὶ γὰρ ἀκούω πρὸς ταῦτα μάλιστα τὸν Ἐπίκουρον ταῖς ὑπολήψεσι φέρεσθαι, ὡς τυχαία τις καὶ αὐτόματος ἡ τῶν ὄντων ὑπενοήθη φύσις, ὼς οὐδεμιᾶς προνοίας διὰ τῶν πραγμάτων διηκούcn;. Καὶ διὰ τοῦτο κατὰ τὸ ἀκόλουθον καὶ τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην ζωὴν πομφᾶλυγος δίκην ᾤετο πνεύ ματί τινιτοῦ σώματος ὴ μῶν περι-ταθέντος, ἕως ἂν περικωτῆται τὺ πνεῦμα τῷ περιέχοντι, τῇ δὲ διαπτώσει τοῦ ὄγκου καὶ τὸ ὲναπειλημμένον συγκατασβέννυσθαι. Ὅρος γὰρ τούτῳ τῆς τῶν ὄντων φύσεως τὸ φαινόμενον ἦν, καὶ μέτρον τῆς τοῦ παντὸς καταλήψεως ἐποιεῖτο τὴν αἴσθησιν, μεμυκὼς παντάπασι τὰ τὴς ψυχῆς αἰσθητήρια, καὶ πρὸς οὐδὲν τῶν νοητῶν τε καὶ ἀσωμάτων βλέπειν οἷός (Ῑ τε ῶν. ὥσπερ ὁ οἰκίσκῳ τινὶ καθειργμένος τῶν οὐρανίων θαυμάτων ἀθέατος μένει, τοῖς τοίχοις καὶ τῷ ὀρόφῳ πρὸς τὴν τῶν ἔξω θέαν ἐμποδιζόμενος. Ἀτεχνῶς γὰρ γήϊνοί τινές είσι τοῖχοι τὰ at!σθητά πάντα, ὅσα ὲν τῷ παντὶ καθορᾶται, πρὸς τὴν τῶν νοητῶν θεωρίαν διʼ ἑαυτῶν τοὺς μικραψυχοτέnou;

ouk athanatono ē houtōs ge an kai hē sarx athanatos legoito, eis ta, ex hōn synestēke, lyomenē. El de allo ti pou para tauta esti, pou logos autēn einai hypotithetai, en men tois stoicheiois dia tou heterophyōs autēn echein ouch euriskomenēn, allou de oudenos en tǭ kosmǭ ontos, en hǭ genoitʼ an hēpsychē katallēlōs tę̄ idią physei embioteuousa ? '0 de mēdamē estin, oude esti pantōs. M. Kaiēdidaskalos hērema tois rhētheisin epistenaxasa, Tacha pou tauta kaita toiauta, phēsi, pros ton Apostolan en Athēnais pote systantes proepheroi Stōïkoi te kai Hepikou reioi. Kai gar akouō pros tauta malista ton Epikouron tais hypolēpsesi pheresthai, hōs tychaia tis kai automatos hē tōn ontōn hypenoēthē physis, ōs oudemias pronoias dia tōn pragmatōn diēkoucn?. Kai dia touto kata to akolouthon kai tēn anthrōpinēn zōēn pomphalygos dikēn ǭeto pneu mati tinitou sōmatos ē mōn peri-tathentos, heōs an perikōtētai ty pneuma tǭ periechonti, tę̄ de diaptōsei tou onkou kai to enapeilēmmenon synkatasbennysthai. Horos gar toutǭ tēs tōn ontōn physeōs to phainomenon ēn, kai metron tēs tou pantos katalēpseōs epoieito tēn aisthēsin, memykōs pantapasi ta tēs psychēs aisthētēria, kai pros ouden tōn noētōn te kai asōmatōn blepein hoios (I te ōn. hōsper ho oikiskǭ tini katheirgmenos tōn ouraniōn thaumatōn atheatos menei, tois toichois kai tǭ orophǭ pros tēn tōn exō thean empodizomenos. Atechnōs gar gēïnoi tines eisi toichoi ta at!sthēta panta, hosa en tǭ panti kathoratai, pros tēn tōn noētōn theōrian diʼ heautōn tous mikrapsychotenou?

“… is not immortal; otherwise the flesh too would be called immortal, since it is dissolved into the things of which it is composed. But if the soul is something else besides these, where does reason suppose it to be, since it is not found in the elements, being of a different nature from them, and there is nothing else in the world in which the soul could live in a way suited to its own nature? But what is nowhere does not exist at all.” Macrina: And my teacher, sighing gently at what had been said, said: “Perhaps such things as these the Stoics and Epicureans brought forward when they gathered against the Apostle at Athens. For I hear that Epicurus was carried away chiefly to such suppositions, that the nature of things was thought to be accidental and spontaneous, with no providence passing through events. And for this reason, consistently, he thought human life too was like a bubble, our body being blown up by some breath, as long as the breath is held in by what encloses it, and that when the bulk collapses what was enclosed is quenched with it. For to him what appears was the limit of the nature of things, and he made sense the measure of his grasp of the universe, having wholly shut the senses of the soul and being unable to look at anything intelligible and incorporeal; like a man shut up in a little hut who remains without sight of the wonders of heaven, hindered by the walls and roof from seeing what is outside. For all the sensible things seen in the universe are simply earthen walls, which by themselves block the more small-minded from the contemplation of intelligible things …”

Acts 17:18 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Macrina answers that such arguments are those of the Stoics and Epicureans who opposed Paul at Athens; Epicurus, denying providence, thought life a bubble because he trusted only the senses.

  • References: Acts 17:18 (Paul at Athens). The view attributed to Epicurus (life as a bubble, the world without providence) is Macrina’s summary. The unit ends mid-sentence (marked …).

Topics: Eschatology, Heresy

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 21 (PG 46:21a–21d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 23

23PG 46:24a–24b

διατειχίζοντες. Γῆν ό τοιοῦτος βλέπει μόνην. καὶ ὕδωρ, καὶ ἀέρα, καὶ πῦρ· ὅθεν δὲ τούτων ἒκαστον, ἢ ἐν τίνι ἐστὶν, ἢ ὐπδ τίνος περικρατεῖται, διιδεῖν ὑπὸ μικροψυχίας οὐ δύναται. Καὶ ἱμάτιον μέν τις ίδὼν τδν ὑφάντην ἀνελογίσατο, ’ καὶ διὰ τῆς νηὸς τδν ναυπηγὸν ἐνενόησεν, ἥ τε αὐτοῦ οἰκοδόμου χεὶρ ὁμοῦ τῇ τοῦ οίκοδομήματος ὄψει τῇ διανοίᾳ τῶν θεωμένων ἐγγίνεται. Oi δὲ πρὸς τὸν κόσμον ὁρῶντες πρὸς τὸν διὰ τούτων δηλούμενον ἀμὸλυωποῦσιν, ὅθεν τὰ σοφὰ ταῦτα καῖ δριμέα παρὰ τῶν τὸν ἀφανισμὸν ψυχῆς δογματιξόντων προφέρεταιο σῶμα ἐκ στοιχείων, καὶ στοιχεῖα ὲκ σώματος, καὶ τὸ μὴ δύνασθαι τὴν ψυχὴν καθʼ ἑαυτὴν εἶναι, εί μήτε τούτων τι εῐη, μήτε ὲν τούτοις. Εἰ γὰρ ὅτι μὴ ὁμοφυὴς τοῖς στοιχείοις ἐστὶν ἠ ψυχὴ, διὰ τοῦτο οὐδαμοῦ εἶναι αὐτὴν oi. ἀντιλέγοντες οἴονται· οὗτοι πρῶτον μὲν καὶ τὴν ἐν σαρκὶ ζωὴν ἄψυχον εῖναι δογματιζέτωσαν. υύ γὰρ ἄλλο τι τὸ σῶμα ἔστιν, εί μὴ συνδρομὴ τῶν στοιχείων · μὴ τοίνυν μηδʼ ὲν τούτοις τὴν ψυχὴν εἶναι λεγέτωσαν διʼ ἑαυτῆς ζωοποιοῦσαν τὸ σύγκριμα· ειπερ οὐκ ἔστι μετὰ ταῦτα δυνατὸν, καθὼς οἴονται, τῶν στοιξχεξων ὄντων καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν εἶναι, ὡς μηδὲν ἄλλο ἢ νεκρὰν τὴν ζωὴν ήμῶν παρʼ αὐτῶν ἀποδείκνυσθαι. Et δὲ νῦν ὲν τῷ σώματι τὴν ψυχὴν εἶναι οὐκ ἀμφιβάλλουσι, πῶς τοῦ σώματος εἰς τὰ στοιχεῖα τὸν ἀφανισμὸν αὐτῆς δογματίζουσι, ἔπειτα δὲ καὶ κατὰ ταύτης τῆς θείας φύσεως τὰ ἶσα τολμάτωσαν. Πῶς γὰρ ἐροῦσι τὴν νοεράν τε καὶ ἄῦλον καὶ ἀειδῆ φύσιν είς τὰ ὑγρά τε καὶ μαλακὰ καὶ στερέμνια ’διαδυομένην ὲν τῷ εἶναι συνέχειν τὰ ὄντα, οὔτε συγγενῶς ἔχουσαν πρὸς τὰ ὲν οἷς γίνεται, οὔτε διὰ τὸ ὲτερογενὲς ὲν αὐτοῖς εἶναι ἀδυνατοῦσαν ; Οὐκοῦν ἐξῃρήσθω καθόλου τοῦ δόγματος αύτῶν καὶ αὐτὸ τὸ Θεῖον, ᾦδιακρατείταιτὰδνταυ-Γ. Αὐτὸ δὲ τοῦτο, εἷπον ἐγὼ, πῶς ἂν τοῖς ἀντιλέγουσιν ἀναμφίόολον γένοιτο, τὸ ὲκ Θεοῦ εἶναι τὰ πάντα, καὶ ὲν αὐτῷ περικρατεῖσθαι τὰ ὄντα, ἢ καὶ ὅλως τὸ εἷναί τι θεῖον τῆς τῶν ὅντων ὑπερκείμενον φύσεωςς

diateichizontes. Gēn o toioutos blepei monēn. kai hydōr, kai aera, kai pyr; hothen de toutōn ekaston, ē en tini estin, ē ypd tinos perikrateitai, diidein hypo mikropsychias ou dynatai. Kai himation men tis idōn tdn hyphantēn anelogisato, ’ kai dia tēs nēos tdn naupēgon enenoēsen, hē te autou oikodomou cheir homou tę̄ tou oikodomēmatos opsei tę̄ dianoią tōn theōmenōn enginetai. Oi de pros ton kosmon horōntes pros ton dia toutōn dēloumenon amolyōpousin, hothen ta sopha tauta kai drimea para tōn ton aphanismon psychēs dogmatixontōn propheretaio sōma ek stoicheiōn, kai stoicheia ek sōmatos, kai to mē dynasthai tēn psychēn kathʼ heautēn einai, ei mēte toutōn ti eiē, mēte en toutois. Ei gar hoti mē homophyēs tois stoicheiois estin ē psychē, dia touto oudamou einai autēn oi. antilegontes oiontai; houtoi prōton men kai tēn en sarki zōēn apsychon einai dogmatizetōsan. yy gar allo ti to sōma estin, ei mē syndromē tōn stoicheiōn ; mē toinyn mēdʼ en toutois tēn psychēn einai legetōsan diʼ heautēs zōopoiousan to synkrima; eiper ouk esti meta tauta dynaton, kathōs oiontai, tōn stoixchexōn ontōn kai tēn psychēn einai, hōs mēden allo ē nekran tēn zōēn ēmōn parʼ autōn apodeiknysthai. Et de nyn en tǭ sōmati tēn psychēn einai ouk amphiballousi, pōs tou sōmatos eis ta stoicheia ton aphanismon autēs dogmatizousi, epeita de kai kata tautēs tēs theias physeōs ta isa tolmatōsan. Pōs gar erousi tēn noeran te kai aulon kai aeidē physin eis ta hygra te kai malaka kai steremnia ’diadyomenēn en tǭ einai synechein ta onta, oute syngenōs echousan pros ta en hois ginetai, oute dia to eterogenes en autois einai adynatousan ? Oukoun exę̄rēsthō katholou tou dogmatos autōn kai auto to Theion, ǭdiakrateitaitadntau-G. Auto de touto, heipon egō, pōs an tois antilegousin anamphioolon genoito, to ek Theou einai ta panta, kai en autǭ perikrateisthai ta onta, ē kai holōs to heinai ti theion tēs tōn hontōn hyperkeimenon physeōss

Such a man sees only earth and water and air and fire; but where each of these comes from, or in what it is, or by what it is held together, he cannot see through because of his narrowness of soul. Yet one who sees a garment reasons to the weaver, and through the ship thinks of the shipwright, and the hand of the builder comes into the mind of those who see the building together with the sight of the building. But those who look at the world are dim-sighted toward the one shown through it. Hence these clever and sharp arguments are put forward by those who teach the annihilation of the soul: body from elements, and elements from body, and that the soul cannot exist by itself if it is neither one of these nor in these. For if the objectors think that the soul is nowhere because it is not of the same nature as the elements, let them first teach that life in the flesh too is without soul; for the body is nothing else than a concurrence of the elements; let them not say, then, that the soul is in these either, giving life to the compound by itself, if, as they think, it is not possible for the soul to exist after these things while the elements exist; so that they show our life to be nothing else than dead. But if they do not doubt that the soul is now in the body, how do they teach its annihilation when the body is dissolved into the elements? Then let them dare the same against the divine nature itself. For how will they say that the intelligent, immaterial, and formless nature, penetrating into moist and soft and solid things, holds existing things together in being, neither being akin to the things in which it comes to be nor unable to be in them because it is of a different kind? Let the divine itself, then, by which existing things are held together, be removed altogether from their doctrine.” Gregory: “But this very thing,” I said, “how could it become undoubted for the objectors, that all things are from God and that existing things are held together in him, or even at all that there is something divine above the nature of existing things?”

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Summary: Macrina argues that those who deny the soul because it is unlike the elements must also deny that the living body has a soul, and even that God, who is unlike them, sustains the world.

  • Speech continues from the previous unit; the speaker until “Gregory” is Macrina.

Topics: Eschatology

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 23 (PG 46:24a–24b; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 25

25PG 46:25a

Μ. Ἦδὲσιωπᾷν μὲν ἦν, φησὶν, ἐπὶ τοῖς τοιούτοις ἁρμοδιώτερον, μηδὲ ἀξιοῦν ἀποκρίσεως τὰς τε καὶ ἀσεβεῖς τῶν προτάσεων, ἐπ;ὶ καί τις τῶν θείων ἀπαγορεύει λόγος μὴ ἀποκρίνεσθαι ippon ἑν τῇ ἀφροσύνῃ αὐτοῦ· ἄφρων δὲ πάντως ἐστὶ, κατὰ τὸν Προφήτην, ὁ μὴ εἶναι λέγων Θεόν. Ἐπεὶ δὲ χρὴ καὶ τοῦτο εἰπεῖν, ἐρῶ σοι, φησί, λόγον, ἐμὸν οὐχὶ, ἀλλʼ οὐδὲ ἄλλου τινος ἀνθρώπου · μικρὸς γὰρ οὒτος,ὂστις δʼ ἂνῇ· ἀλλʼ αὑτὸν ὃν ἡ κτίσις τῶν ὄντων διὰ τῶν ὲν αὐτῇ θαυμάτων διέξεισιν, ἀκροατὴς ὀφθαλμὸς γίνεται, διὰ τῶν φαινομένων, ὲνηχοῦντος τῇ καρδίᾳ τοῦ σοφοῦ τε καὶ τε· χνικοῦ λόγου. Βοᾷ γὰρ ἄντικρυ τὸν ποιητὴν ἡ κτίσις, αὐτῶν τῶν οὐρανῶν, καθώς φησιν ὁ Προφήτης, ταῖς ἀλαλήτοις φωναῖς τὴν δόξαν τοῦ Θεοῦ διηγουμένων. Τίς γὰρ βλέπων τὴν τοῦ παντὸς ἁρμονίαν, τῶν τε οὐρανίων καὶ τῶν κατὰ γῆν θαυμάτων, καὶ ὡς ἐναντίως ἔχοντα πρὸς ἄλληλα τὰ στοιχεῖα κατὰ τὴν φύσιν, πρὸς τὸν αὑτὸν τὰ πάντα σκοπὸν διά τινος ἀρρήτου κοινωνίας συμπλέκεται, τὴν παρʼ ἑαυτοῦ δύναμιν ἕκαστον πρὸς τὴν τοῦ παντὸς διαμονὴν συνεισφέροντα, καὶ οὔτε τὰ ἄμικτά τε καὶ ἀκοινώνητα κατὰ τὴν ἰδιότητα τῶν ποιοτήτων διαχωρεῖ ἀπʼ ἀλλήλων, οὔτε ὲν ἀλλήλοις φθείρεται κατακιρνὰμενα πρὸς ἄλληλα ταῖς ἐναντίαις ποιότησιν, ἀλλὰ καὶ οἷς ἀνωφερὴς ἐστιν ἡ φύσις, ἐπὶ τὰ κάτω φέρεται, τῆς ἡλιακῆς θερμότητος διὰ τῶν ἀκτίνων καταρρεούσης ' τά τε ἐμβριθῆ τῶν σωμάτων ἀνακουφῐξεται διὰ τῶν du: μῶν λεπτυνόμενα, ὼς καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ παρὰ τὴν ἑαυτοῦ φύσιν ἀνωφερὲς γενεσθαι, διʼ ἀέρος ἐπὶ πνευμάτων ὀχούμενον, καὶ τὺ αἰθέριον πῦρ πρόσγειον γίνεσθαι, ὠς καὶ τὸ βάθος μὴ ἀμοιρεῖν τῆς Οερμότητος, ἐπιχεομένην δὲ τῇ γῇ τὴν ὲκ τῶν ὄμβρων ἰκμάδα μίαν οὖσαν τῇ φύσει, μυρίας γεννᾷν βλαστημάτων διαφορὰς πᾶσι κατάλληλον τοῖς ὑποκειμένοις ἐμφυομένην τήν τε ὀξυτάτην τοῦ πόλου περιφορὰν χαὶ τῶν

M. Ēdesiōpąn men ēn, phēsin, epi tois toioutois harmodiōteron, mēde axioun apokriseōs tas te kai asebeis tōn protaseōn, ep?i kai tis tōn theiōn apagoreuei logos mē apokrinesthai ippon hen tę̄ aphrosynę̄ autou; aphrōn de pantōs esti, kata ton Prophētēn, ho mē einai legōn Theon. Epei de chrē kai touto eipein, erō soi, phēsi, logon, emon ouchi, allʼ oude allou tinos anthrōpou ; mikros gar outos,ostis dʼ anę̄; allʼ hauton hon hē ktisis tōn ontōn dia tōn en autę̄ thaumatōn diexeisin, akroatēs ophthalmos ginetai, dia tōn phainomenōn, enēchountos tę̄ kardią tou sophou te kai te; chnikou logou. Boą gar antikry ton poiētēn hē ktisis, autōn tōn ouranōn, kathōs phēsin ho Prophētēs, tais alalētois phōnais tēn doxan tou Theou diēgoumenōn. Tis gar blepōn tēn tou pantos harmonian, tōn te ouraniōn kai tōn kata gēn thaumatōn, kai hōs enantiōs echonta pros allēla ta stoicheia kata tēn physin, pros ton hauton ta panta skopon dia tinos arrētou koinōnias sympleketai, tēn parʼ heautou dynamin hekaston pros tēn tou pantos diamonēn syneispheronta, kai oute ta amikta te kai akoinōnēta kata tēn idiotēta tōn poiotētōn diachōrei apʼ allēlōn, oute en allēlois phtheiretai katakirnamena pros allēla tais enantiais poiotēsin, alla kai hois anōpherēs estin hē physis, epi ta katō pheretai, tēs hēliakēs thermotētos dia tōn aktinōn katarreousēs ' ta te embrithē tōn sōmatōn anakouphixetai dia tōn du: mōn leptynomena, ōs kai to hydōr para tēn heautou physin anōpheres genesthai, diʼ aeros epi pneumatōn ochoumenon, kai ty aitherion pyr prosgeion ginesthai, ōs kai to bathos mē amoirein tēs Oermotētos, epicheomenēn de tę̄ gę̄ tēn ek tōn ombrōn ikmada mian ousan tę̄ physei, myrias gennąn blastēmatōn diaphoras pasi katallēlon tois hypokeimenois emphyomenēn tēn te oxytatēn tou polou periphoran chai tōn

Macrina: “It would be more fitting,” she said, “to keep silence on such matters and not to think foolish and impious propositions worthy of an answer, since one of the divine sayings forbids answering a fool according to his folly; and certainly, according to the Prophet, he is a fool who says there is no God. But since this too must be said, I will tell you,” she said, “an argument that is not mine, nor any other human being’s (for that would be small, whoever he was), but one which the creation of existing things itself goes through by the wonders in it, the eye becoming a hearer, as the wise and skilful word resounds in the heart through the things that appear. For creation openly cries out its Maker, the heavens themselves, as the Prophet says, declaring the glory of God with unspoken voices. For who, seeing the harmony of the universe, of the wonders in heaven and on earth, and how the elements, opposite to one another in nature, are all woven together to the same aim by some ineffable communion, each contributing its own power to the preservation of the whole; how things unmixable and incompatible in the property of their qualities are neither separated from one another nor destroyed when blended with one another by their opposite qualities; but even things whose nature is upward-tending are carried downward, as the sun’s heat flows down in its rays, while heavy bodies are lifted up, thinned out into vapours, so that water too becomes upward-tending against its nature, carried through the air on the winds, and the fire of the ether comes down to earth, so that even the depth has its share of heat; and the moisture from the rains poured on the earth, though one in nature, produces countless varieties of plants, growing in a manner suited to each subject; and the swiftest revolution of the pole and the contrary motion of the circles within …

Prov 26:4 (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 14:1 (13:1 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 19:1 (18:2 LXX) (allusion, high confidence) · Ps 19:3 (18:4 LXX) (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Macrina answers that creation itself proclaims its Maker: the harmony of opposed elements, the movements of heat and water, rain, and the heavens show a divine power at work.

  • References: Prov 26:4; Ps 14:1 (13:1 LXX); Ps 19:1–3 (18:2–4 LXX). The unit ends mid-sentence; the sentence continues in the next unit.

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 25 (PG 46:25a; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 27

27PG 46:28a–28d

δντὸς κύκλων τὴν ἐπὶ τὸ ἔμπαλιν κίνησιν, τὰς τε ὑποδρομὰς καὶ τὰς συνόδους, καὶ τὰς ἐναρμονίους ἀποστάσεις τῶν ἄστρων· ό ταῦτα βλέπων τῷ διας· von-:er τῆς ψυχῆς ὀφθαλμῷ, ἆρα οὐχὶ φανερῶς ὲκ τῶν φαινομένων διδάσκεται, ὅτι θεία δύναμις ἐντεχνός τε καὶ σοφὴ τοῖς οὖσιν ἐμφαινομένη, καὶ διὰ πάντων ἥκουσα τὰ μέρη συναρμόζει τῷ ὅλῳ, καὶ τὸ ὅλον συμπληροῖ ὲν τοῖς μέρεσι, καὶ μιᾷ τινι περικρατείται δυνάμει τὸ πᾶν, αὐτὸ εν ἑαυτῷ μένον [καὶ περὶ ἑαυτὸ κινούμενον], καὶ οὔτε λῆγόν ποτετῆς κινήσεως, οὔτε είς ἄλλον τινὰ τόπον παρὰ τὸν, ὲν ᾧ ἐστι, μεθιστάμενον;-Γ.Καὶ πῶς, εἷπον, ή περὶ τὸ εἶναι τδν Θεὺν πίστις, καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν εἶναι τὴν ἀνθρωπίνην συναποδείκνυσινς Οὐ γὰρ δὴ ταύτόν ἐστι τῷ Θεῷ ἡ ψυχὴ, ὥστε εί τὸ ἓν όμολογοῖτο εἶναι συνομολογείσθαι πάντως καὶ τὺ λειπόμενον. Μ. Ἡδὲ, Λέγεται (Η), φησὶ, παρὰ τῶν σοφῶν μικρός τις εἶναι κόσμος ὁ ἄνθρωπος, ταῦτα περιἔχων έν ἑαυτῷ τὰ στοιχεῖα, οἷς τὸ πᾶν συμπεπλήρωται. Εἰ δὲ ἀληθὴς οὗτος ό λόγος (ἔοικε δὲ), τάχα st’ix ἂν ἑτέρας ἐδεήθημεν συμμαχίας εἰς τὸ βε- Βαιωθῆναι ἡμῖν ὃ πε pl ψυχῆς ὑπειλήφαμεν. ’Υτε ιλήφαμεν δὲ εἶναι αὐτὴν* καθʼ ἑαυτήν έν ἐξηλλαγμένῃ τε καὶ ίδιαζούσῃ φύσει, παρὰ τὴν σωματικὴν παχυμέρειαν. Ὦς γὰρ πάντα τὸν κόσμον διὰ τῆς αἰσθητικῆς ἀντιλήψεως ἐπιγινώσκοντες, διʼ αὐτῆς τῆς κατὰ τὴν αἴσθησιν ἡμῶν ἐνεργείας εἰς τὴν τοῦ ὑπὲρ ατο σθησιν πράγματος καὶ νοήματος ἔννοιαν ὁδηγούμεθα, καὶ γίνεται ἡμῖν ό ὀφθαλμὸς ἑρμηνεὺς τῆς παντοδυνάμου σοφίας, τῆς τῷ παντὶ μὲν ὲνθεωρουμένης, τὸν δὲ κατʼ αὐτὴν τοῦ παντὸς περιδεδραγμένον διʼ ἑαυτῆς μηνυούσης,· οὕτω καὶ πρὸς τὸν ἐν ἡμῖν βλέποντες κόσμον, οὐ μικρὰς ἔχομεν ἀφορμὰς πρὸς τὸ διὰ τῶν φαινομένων κα) τοῦ κεκρυμμένου καταστοχὰσασθαι. Κέκρυπται δὲ ἐκεῖνο, ὃ ἐφʼ ἑαυτοῦ δν νοητόν τε καὶ ἀειδὲς διαφεύγει τὴν αἰσθητικὴ. κατανόησιν. Γ. Κάγὼ εἷπον· Ἀλλὰ τὴν τοῦ παντὸς ὑπερκειμένην σοφίαν διὰ τῶν ὲνθεωρουμένων τῇ φύσει τῶν

dntos kyklōn tēn epi to empalin kinēsin, tas te hypodromas kai tas synodous, kai tas enarmonious apostaseis tōn astrōn; o tauta blepōn tǭ dias; von-:er tēs psychēs ophthalmǭ, ara ouchi phanerōs ek tōn phainomenōn didasketai, hoti theia dynamis entechnos te kai sophē tois ousin emphainomenē, kai dia pantōn hēkousa ta merē synarmozei tǭ holǭ, kai to holon symplēroi en tois meresi, kai mią tini perikrateitai dynamei to pan, auto en heautǭ menon [kai peri heauto kinoumenon], kai oute lēgon potetēs kinēseōs, oute eis allon tina topon para ton, en hǭ esti, methistamenon?-G.Kai pōs, heipon, ē peri to einai tdn Theun pistis, kai tēn psychēn einai tēn anthrōpinēn synapodeiknysins Ou gar dē tauton esti tǭ Theǭ hē psychē, hōste ei to hen omologoito einai synomologeisthai pantōs kai ty leipomenon. M. Hēde, Legetai (Ē), phēsi, para tōn sophōn mikros tis einai kosmos ho anthrōpos, tauta periechōn en heautǭ ta stoicheia, hois to pan sympeplērōtai. Ei de alēthēs houtos o logos (eoike de), tacha st’ix an heteras edeēthēmen symmachias eis to be- Baiōthēnai hēmin ho pe pl psychēs hypeilēphamen. ’Yte ilēphamen de einai autēn* kathʼ heautēn en exēllagmenę̄ te kai idiazousę̄ physei, para tēn sōmatikēn pachymereian. Ōs gar panta ton kosmon dia tēs aisthētikēs antilēpseōs epiginōskontes, diʼ autēs tēs kata tēn aisthēsin hēmōn energeias eis tēn tou hyper ato sthēsin pragmatos kai noēmatos ennoian hodēgoumetha, kai ginetai hēmin o ophthalmos hermēneus tēs pantodynamou sophias, tēs tǭ panti men entheōroumenēs, ton de katʼ autēn tou pantos peridedragmenon diʼ heautēs mēnyousēs,; houtō kai pros ton en hēmin blepontes kosmon, ou mikras echomen aphormas pros to dia tōn phainomenōn ka) tou kekrymmenou katastochasasthai. Kekryptai de ekeino, ho ephʼ heautou dn noēton te kai aeides diapheugei tēn aisthētikē. katanoēsin. G. Kagō heipon; Alla tēn tou pantos hyperkeimenēn sophian dia tōn entheōroumenōn tę̄ physei tōn

… the motion in the opposite direction, the retrogradations and conjunctions and harmonious distances of the stars: one who sees these with the discerning eye of the soul, is he not clearly taught by what appears that a divine power, skilful and wise, appearing in existing things and pervading all, fits the parts to the whole and fills up the whole in the parts, and that the universe is held together by one power, abiding in itself, never ceasing from motion, nor passing to any other place than that in which it is?” Gregory: “And how,” I said, “does faith in the existence of God also prove the existence of the human soul? For the soul is not the same as God, so that if the one is admitted to exist the other must certainly be admitted too.” Macrina: “It is said by the wise,” she said, “that man is a kind of little world, containing in himself the elements of which the universe is made up. If this account is true (and it seems to be), perhaps we shall need no other ally to confirm what we have supposed about the soul. And we have supposed that it exists by itself in a distinct and peculiar nature, apart from bodily coarseness. For as, recognizing the whole world through sense perception, we are led by the very activity of our senses to the thought of the reality and idea beyond sense, and the eye becomes for us an interpreter of the all-powerful wisdom which is seen in the universe and through itself reveals the one who holds the universe in his grasp, so too, looking at the world within us, we have no small grounds for guessing the hidden through what appears. And that is hidden which, being intelligible and formless in itself, escapes the perception of sense.” Gregory: And I said: “But it is possible to infer the wisdom that is above the universe from the wise and skilful principles seen in the nature of …”

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Summary: From the ordered motions of the heavens one infers one divine power holding the universe together; and since man is a little world, the visible body likewise points to the hidden, intelligible soul.

  • The edition prints in square brackets the words “and moving about itself” after “abiding in itself”; they are left out. “Little world” (microcosm) is the philosophers’ phrase, cited by Macrina; Gregory himself criticizes it in On the Making of Man 16.

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 27 (PG 46:28a–28d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 29

29PG 46:29a–29d

ὄντων σοφῶν τε καὶ τεχνικῶν λόγων, ὲν τῇ ἁρμονίᾳ ταύτῃ καὶ διακοσμήσει δυνατόν ἐστιν ἀναλογίσασθαι ψυχῆς δὲ γνῶσις διὰ τῶν κατά τὸ σῶμα δεικνυμένων τίς ἂν γένοιτο τοῖς ἀπὸ τῶν φαινομένων τὸ κρυπτὸν ἀνιχνεύουσινς -Μ.Καὶ μάλιστα μέν τοι, φησὶν ὴ παρθένος, τοῖς κατά τὸ σοφὸν έκεῖνο παράγγελμα γινώσκειν ἑαυτοὺς ἐπιθυμοῦσιν· εί κᾶν ή διδάσκαλος τῶν περὶ ψυχῆς ύπολήψεων αὐτὴ ἡ ψυχὴ, ὅτι deus; τις καὶ ἀσώματος, καταλλήλως τῇ ἰδίᾳ φύσει ένεργοῦσά τε καὶ κινουμένη, καὶ διά τῶν σωματικῶν ὀργάνων τὰς ἰδίας κινήσεις ὲνδεικνυμένη. Ἦ γὰρ ὀργανική τοῦ σώματος αῦτη διασκευὴ, ἔστι μὲν οὐδὲν ἦττον καὶ ἐπὶ τῶν ἀπονεκρωθέντων διὰ θανάτου, ἀλλʼ ἀκίνητος μένει καὶ ἀνενὲργητος, τῆς ψυχικῆς δυνάμεως ὲν αὐτῇ μὴ οὔσης. Κινεῖται δὲ τότε ὅταν ἥ τε αἴσθησις ὲν τοῖς ὀργάνοις ᾖ, καὶ διὰ τῆς αἰσθήσεως ή νοητὴ δύναμις διήκῃ ταῖς ίδίαις ὁρμαῖς συγκινοῦσα πρὸς τὸ δοκοῦν τὰ. ὀργανικά αἰσθητήρια, -Γ. Τ ίοῦν,εῖπον,ὲστὶν ἡ ψυχής εί δυνατὸν λόγῳ τινὶ τὴν φύσιν ὑπογραφῆναι, ὡς ἄν τις γένοιτο ήμῖν τοῦ ὑποκειμένου διὰ τῆς ὑπογραφῆς κατανόησις. Kell] ὀιδάσκαλος,-Μ.Ἀλλοι μὲν ἄλλως, φησὶ, τὸν περὶ αὐτῆς ἀπεφήναντο λόγον, κατὰ τὸ δοκοῦν ἕκαστος ὁριζόμενοι, ή δὲ ἡμετέρα περὶ αὐτῆς δόξα οὕτως ἔχει· Ψυχή ἐστιν ούσία γεννητὴ, οὐσία ζῶσα, νοερὰ, σώματι ὀργανικῷ καὶ αἰσθητικῷ, δύναμιν ζωτικὴν καὶ τῶν αἰσθητῶν ἀντιληπτικὴν διʼ ἑαυτῆς ένιοῦσα, ἕως ἂν ἡ δεκτικὴ τούτων συνέστηκε φύσιςΛίαὶ ἅμα ταῦτα λέγουσα δείκνυσι τῇ χειρὶ τὸν ἰατρὸν τὸν ἐπὶ θεραπείᾳ τοῦ σώματος αὐτῇἰτροσκαθὴμενον, καί φησιν· Ἐγγὺς ἡμῖν τῶν εἰρημένων ἡ μαρτυρία. Πῶς γὰρ, εἶπεν, οῦτος ἐπιβαλὼν τῇ ἀρτηρίᾳ τὴν τῶν δακτύλων ἁφὴν, ἀκούει τρόπον τινὰ διὰ τῆς ἀπτικῆς αἰσθήσεως τῆς φύσεως πρὸς αὐτὸν βοώσης, καὶ τά ἴδια πάθη διηγουμένης, δτι ἐν ἐπιτάσει ἐστὶ τῷ σώματι τὸ ἀρρώστημα, καὶ ἀπὺ τῶνδε τῶν σπλάγχνων ἡ νόσος ὥρμηται, καὶ ἐπὶ τοσόνδε παρατείνει τοῦ ’φλογμοῦ ἡ ὲπίτασις; Διδάσκεται δὲ καὶ ὑπὸ τοῦ ὀφθαλμοῦ ἄλλα τοιαῦτα, πρός τε τὸ σχῆμα τῆς κατακλίσεως βλέπων, καὶ πρὸς τὴν τῶν σαρκῶν τηκεδόνα. Καὶ ὡς ἐπισημαίνει τὴν ἔνδον διάθεσιν, τό τε εἶδος τοῦ χρώματος, ὕπωχρόν τε ὃν καὶ χολῶδες, καὶ ἠ τῶν ὀμμάτων βολὴ περὶ τῶν λυπούντων καὶ ἀλγύνον αὐτομάτως ὲγκλι νομένη. Ὡσαύτως δὲ καὶ ἡ ἀκοὴ τῶν ὁμοίων διδάσκαλος γίνεται, τῷ δὲ πυκνῷ τοῦ άσθ ματος, καὶ τῷ συνεκδιδομένῳ μετά τῆς ἀναπνοῆς στεναγμῷ τὸ πάθος ὲπιγινώσκουσα. Εἴποι δʼ ἄν τις μηδὲ τὴν ὄσφρησιν τοῦ ἐπιστήμονος ἀνεπίσκεπτον εἶναι τοῦ πάθους, ἀλλά διά τῆς ποιᾶς τοῦ ἄσθματος ἰδιότητος ἐπιγινώσκειν τὸ ἐγκεκρυμμένον τοῖς σπλάγχνοις ἀῤὒὲιίρέἑὲεξμὲέρςρμονίῳ ταύτῃ διακοσμήσει.

ontōn sophōn te kai technikōn logōn, en tę̄ harmonią tautę̄ kai diakosmēsei dynaton estin analogisasthai psychēs de gnōsis dia tōn kata to sōma deiknymenōn tis an genoito tois apo tōn phainomenōn to krypton anichneuousins -M.Kai malista men toi, phēsin ē parthenos, tois kata to sophon ekeino parangelma ginōskein heautous epithymousin; ei kan ē didaskalos tōn peri psychēs ypolēpseōn autē hē psychē, hoti deus? tis kai asōmatos, katallēlōs tę̄ idią physei energousa te kai kinoumenē, kai dia tōn sōmatikōn organōn tas idias kinēseis endeiknymenē. Ē gar organikē tou sōmatos autē diaskeuē, esti men ouden ētton kai epi tōn aponekrōthentōn dia thanatou, allʼ akinētos menei kai anenergētos, tēs psychikēs dynameōs en autę̄ mē ousēs. Kineitai de tote hotan hē te aisthēsis en tois organois ę̄, kai dia tēs aisthēseōs ē noētē dynamis diēkę̄ tais idiais hormais synkinousa pros to dokoun ta. organika aisthētēria, -G. T ioun,eipon,estin hē psychēs ei dynaton logǭ tini tēn physin hypographēnai, hōs an tis genoito ēmin tou hypokeimenou dia tēs hypographēs katanoēsis. Kell] oidaskalos,-M.Alloi men allōs, phēsi, ton peri autēs apephēnanto logon, kata to dokoun hekastos horizomenoi, ē de hēmetera peri autēs doxa houtōs echei; Psychē estin ousia gennētē, ousia zōsa, noera, sōmati organikǭ kai aisthētikǭ, dynamin zōtikēn kai tōn aisthētōn antilēptikēn diʼ heautēs eniousa, heōs an hē dektikē toutōn synestēke physisLiai hama tauta legousa deiknysi tę̄ cheiri ton iatron ton epi therapeią tou sōmatos autę̄itroskathēmenon, kai phēsin; Engys hēmin tōn eirēmenōn hē martyria. Pōs gar, eipen, outos epibalōn tę̄ artērią tēn tōn daktylōn haphēn, akouei tropon tina dia tēs aptikēs aisthēseōs tēs physeōs pros auton boōsēs, kai ta idia pathē diēgoumenēs, dti en epitasei esti tǭ sōmati to arrōstēma, kai apy tōnde tōn splanchnōn hē nosos hōrmētai, kai epi tosonde parateinei tou ’phlogmou hē epitasis? Didasketai de kai hypo tou ophthalmou alla toiauta, pros te to schēma tēs katakliseōs blepōn, kai pros tēn tōn sarkōn tēkedona. Kai hōs episēmainei tēn endon diathesin, to te eidos tou chrōmatos, hypōchron te hon kai cholōdes, kai ē tōn ommatōn bolē peri tōn lypountōn kai algynon automatōs enkli nomenē. Hōsautōs de kai hē akoē tōn homoiōn didaskalos ginetai, tǭ de pyknǭ tou asth matos, kai tǭ synekdidomenǭ meta tēs anapnoēs stenagmǭ to pathos epiginōskousa. Eipoi dʼ an tis mēde tēn osphrēsin tou epistēmonos anepiskepton einai tou pathous, alla dia tēs poias tou asthmatos idiotētos epiginōskein to enkekrymmenon tois splanchnois aryeiireeeexmeersrmoniǭ tautę̄ diakosmēsei.

“… existing things, in this harmony and order; but what knowledge of the soul could come, through what is shown in the body, to those who track the hidden from what appears?” Macrina: “Most of all,” said the virgin, “to those who desire to know themselves according to that wise precept; for the soul itself would be the teacher of what is to be supposed about the soul: that it is something immaterial and incorporeal, acting and moving in a way suited to its own nature, and showing its own movements through the bodily organs. For this instrumental construction of the body exists no less in those deadened by death, but it remains motionless and inactive, since the power of soul is not in it. It moves when sense is in the organs and the intelligible power passes through sense, moving the sense organs with its own impulses as it pleases.” Gregory: “What, then,” I said, “is the soul, if its nature can be sketched by some definition, so that through the sketch we may gain some understanding of the subject?” Macrina: My teacher said: “Different people have given different accounts of it, each defining it as seemed good to him; but our opinion of it is this. The soul is a created substance, a living substance, intellectual, which by itself gives to an organic and sentient body a power of life and of perceiving sensible things, as long as the nature capable of receiving these holds together.” And as she said this she pointed with her hand to the physician who was sitting by her to care for her body, and said: “The evidence for what has been said is near us. For how,” she said, “does this man, laying the touch of his fingers on the artery, in a way hear through the sense of touch nature crying out to him and telling its own sufferings: that the disease is intense in the body, that the illness started from these inward parts, and that the intensity of the fever extends so far? He is taught other such things by the eye too, looking at the posture in which the patient lies and at the wasting of the flesh; and the colour of the complexion, sallow and bilious, and the glance of the eyes turning of themselves toward what pains and hurts, show the inward state. Likewise hearing becomes a teacher of similar things, recognizing the suffering by the shortness of breath and the groan that comes out with the breathing. And one might say that not even the expert’s sense of smell is without insight into the suffering, but recognizes by the particular quality of the breath the illness hidden in the inward parts …”

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Summary: Macrina says the soul teaches us about itself, defines it as a created, living, intellectual substance that gives life and perception to the body, and illustrates by the physician who diagnoses her illness through his senses guided by mind.

  • “That wise precept” is the Delphic “Know yourself.” Macrina’s definition of the soul is translated exactly as written. The last words of the unit are garbled in the scan; the sentence continues in the next unit.

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 29 (PG 46:29a–29d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-29). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 31

31PG 46:32a–32d

Βὼστημα. Ἀρ οὖν εί μή τις δύναμις ἦν νοητὴ ἡ ἑκάστῳ τῶν αἰσθητηρίων παροῦσα ; Τί ἂν ἡμᾶς ἡ χεὶρ ἀφʼ ἑαυτῆς ἐδιδάξατο, μὴ τῆς ἐννοίας πρὸς τὴν τοῦ ὑποκειμένου γνῶσιν τὴν ἁφὴν samem; Ti δʼ ἂν ἡ ἀκοὴ διανοίας διεζευγμὲνη, ἢ ὀφθαλμὸς, ἢ μυκτὴρ, ἦ ἄλλο τι αἰσθητήριον πρὸς τὴν ἐπίγνωσιν τοῦ ζητουμένου συνήργησεν, εἰ ἐφʼ ἑαυτοῦ μόνου τούτων ἕκαστον ἦν ; ’ᾼλϊ ὃ πάντων ἐστὶν ἁληθέστατον, ὃ καλῶς τις τῶν ἔξω πεπαιδευμένων εἰπὼν μνημονεύεται, τὸν νοῦν εἶναι τὸν ὁρῶντα, κα). νοῦν τὸν ἀκούοντα. Εἰ γάρ μὴ τοῦτο δοίη τις ἀληθὲς εἶναι, πῶς, είπὲ σὺ, πρὸς τὸν ἥλιον βλέπων, καθὼς ἐδιδάχθης παρά τοῦ διδασκάλου βλέπειν, οὐχ ὅσος φαίνεται τοῖς πολλοῖς, τοσοῦτον αὐτὸν φῂς εἶναι τῷ μεγέθει τοῦ κύκλου, ἀλλʼ ὑπερβαλεῖν πολλαπλάxta- τῷ μέτρῳ πᾶσαν τὴν γῆν; Οὐκ ἐπειδὴ τῇ ποίᾳ. κινήσει, καὶ τοῖς χρονικοῖς τε καὶ τοπικοῖς δια· στήμασι, καὶ ταῖς ὲκλειπτικαῖς αἰτίαις τῇ διανοίᾳ. διὰ τῶν φαινομένων ἀκολουθήσας, 0αρρὦ ἀποφαίέ νων τὸ οὕτως Ξχτινς Kal. τῆς σελήνης μείωσίν τε καὶ αὔξησιν βλέπων, ᾶλλα διδάσκει διά τοῦ φαινομένου περὶ τὸ στοιχεῖον σχημάτων, τὸ, ἀφεγγῆ τε εἶναι αὐτὴν κατά τὴν ίδίαν φύσιν, καὶτὸν πρόσγειον κύκλον περιπολεῖνο λάμπει δὲ ἀπὸ τῶν ἡλιακῶν ἀκτίνων, ὡς ἐπὶ τῶν κατόπτρων γίνεσθαι πεφυκέναι τὸν ἥλιον, ἐφʼ ἑαυτῶν δεχόμενα ούκ ἰδίας αὐγὰς ἀντιδίδωσιν, ἀλλά τοῦ ἡλιακοῦ φωτὸςκὲκ τοῦ λείου καὶ στίλβοντοςσώματος εῑς τὸ ἔμπαλιν ἀνακλωμένου. Ὥσπερ τοῖς ἀνεξετάστως βλέπουσιν ἐξ αὐτῆς δοκεῖ τῆς σελήνης εἶναι τὸ φέγγος. Δείκνυται δὲ τὸ μὴ ἔχειν, ὅτι γινομένη μὲν ἀντιπρόσωπος τῷ ἡλίῳ κατὰ διάμετρον ὅλῳ τῷ πρὸς ἡμᾶς βλέποντι κύκλῳ καταφωτίζεται · ἐν ἐλάττονι δὲ τῷ κατʼ αύτὴν τόπῳ θᾶττον περιοῦσα τὸν ὲν ᾧ ἐστι κύκλον, πρὶν ἅπαξ τὸν ἥλιον περιοδεῦσαι τὸν ἴδιον δρόμον, πλέον ἢ δωδεκάκις αὑτὴ τὸν κατʼ αύτὴν περιέρχεται. Διὸ συμβαίνει μὴ ἀεὶ πεπλη

Bōstēma. Ar oun ei mē tis dynamis ēn noētē hē hekastǭ tōn aisthētēriōn parousa ? Ti an hēmas hē cheir aphʼ heautēs edidaxato, mē tēs ennoias pros tēn tou hypokeimenou gnōsin tēn haphēn samem? Ti dʼ an hē akoē dianoias diezeugmenē, ē ophthalmos, ē myktēr, ē allo ti aisthētērion pros tēn epignōsin tou zētoumenou synērgēsen, ei ephʼ heautou monou toutōn hekaston ēn ? ’Ąlï ho pantōn estin halēthestaton, ho kalōs tis tōn exō pepaideumenōn eipōn mnēmoneuetai, ton noun einai ton horōnta, ka). noun ton akouonta. Ei gar mē touto doiē tis alēthes einai, pōs, eipe sy, pros ton hēlion blepōn, kathōs edidachthēs para tou didaskalou blepein, ouch hosos phainetai tois pollois, tosouton auton phę̄s einai tǭ megethei tou kyklou, allʼ hyperbalein pollaplaxta- tǭ metrǭ pasan tēn gēn? Ouk epeidē tę̄ poią. kinēsei, kai tois chronikois te kai topikois dia; stēmasi, kai tais ekleiptikais aitiais tę̄ dianoią. dia tōn phainomenōn akolouthēsas, 0arrō apophaie nōn to houtōs Xchtins Kal. tēs selēnēs meiōsin te kai auxēsin blepōn, alla didaskei dia tou phainomenou peri to stoicheion schēmatōn, to, aphengē te einai autēn kata tēn idian physin, kaiton prosgeion kyklon peripoleino lampei de apo tōn hēliakōn aktinōn, hōs epi tōn katoptrōn ginesthai pephykenai ton hēlion, ephʼ heautōn dechomena ouk idias augas antididōsin, alla tou hēliakou phōtoskek tou leiou kai stilbontossōmatos eis to empalin anaklōmenou. Hōsper tois anexetastōs blepousin ex autēs dokei tēs selēnēs einai to phengos. Deiknytai de to mē echein, hoti ginomenē men antiprosōpos tǭ hēliǭ kata diametron holǭ tǭ pros hēmas bleponti kyklǭ kataphōtizetai ; en elattoni de tǭ katʼ autēn topǭ thatton periousa ton en hǭ esti kyklon, prin hapax ton hēlion periodeusai ton idion dromon, pleon ē dōdekakis hautē ton katʼ autēn perierchetai. Dio symbainei mē aei peplē

Would this be so if there were not some intelligible power present to each of the senses? What would the hand have taught us by itself, if thought did not lead its touch to the knowledge of the subject? What would hearing, separated from understanding, or the eye, or the nostril, or any other sense organ have contributed to the recognition of what is sought, if each of them were by itself alone? But what is truest of all is what one of those educated outside the faith is remembered to have said well: that it is mind that sees and mind that hears. For if one did not grant this to be true, how is it, tell me, that when you look at the sun, as you were taught by your teacher to look, you say that it is not as large as it appears to most people in the size of its disc, but exceeds the whole earth many times in measure? Is it not because, having followed with your understanding, through what appears, its particular motion, the intervals of time and place, and the causes of eclipses, you confidently declare that it is so? And seeing the waning and waxing of the moon, you are taught other things through the appearance of the shapes of that luminary: that it is without light in its own nature and revolves in the circle near the earth, and shines from the sun’s rays, as happens naturally with mirrors, which, receiving the sun on themselves, give back not rays of their own but those of the sun’s light reflected back from the smooth and shining body. To those who look without examination the light seems to come from the moon itself. But it is shown not to have it because, when it stands diametrically opposite the sun, it is lit over the whole disc turned toward us; but going round more quickly in the smaller circle proper to it, it goes round its own circle more than twelve times before the sun has once completed its own course. So it happens that it is not always full …

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Summary: The senses learn only because mind works through them (“mind sees, mind hears”), as in the astronomical reasoning by which we know the sun’s size and the moon’s borrowed light.

  • “Mind sees and mind hears” is a saying of Epicharmus (frag. 12 Diels–Kranz), quoted by many ancient writers; the name is not given. “Your teacher” is presumably Basil. The astronomy is that of Gregory’s time.

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 31 (PG 46:32a–32d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-31). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 33

33PG 46:33a–33d

53 DE ΑΝΙΜᾹ ΕΤ ρῶσοαι φωτὸς τὸ στοιχεῖον ' οὐ γὰρ μένει ἐν τῷ πυκνῴ τῆς περιόδου διηνεκῶς ἀντιπρόσωπος Θέσις, ἅπαν τὸ πρὸς ἡμᾶς τῆς σελήνης μέρος διὰ τῶν ἡλιακῶν ἀκτίνων πεφωτισμένον ἐποίησεν, οὓτως ὅταν ἐπὶ τὰ πλάγια γίνεται τοῦ ἡλίου τοῦ ἀεὶ κατʼ αὐτὸν γινομένου τῆς σελήνης ἡμισφαιρίου διελαμόανομένου τῇ τοῦ ἀκτίνων περιβολῇ, τὸ πρὸς ἡμᾶς κατʼ ἀνάγκην ἁποσκιάζεται, ἁντιμεῦισταμένης τῆς λαμπηδόνος ἀπὸ τοῦ μὴ δυναμένου πρὸς τὸν ἥλιον βλέπειν μέρους ἐπὶ τὸν ἀεὶ κατʼ ἐκεῖ· νον γινόμενον, ἓως ἂν ὑποβἄσα κατʼ εὐθεῖαν τὸν ἡλιακὸν κύκλον κατὰ νώτου τὴν ἀκτῖνα δέξηται, καὶ οὕτω τοῦ ἄνωθεν ἡμισφαιρίου περιλαμφθέντος ἀόρατον ποιεῖ τὸ πρὸς ἡμᾶς μέρος, τὸ εἶναι καθόλου τῇ [δίᾳ φύσει ἀφεγγὲς καὶ ἀχεώτιστον ὅπερ δὴ παντελὴς τοῦ στοιχείου μείωσις λέγεται. Εἰ δὲ παρέλθῃ πάλιν τὸν ἥλιον κατὰ τὴν ἰδίαν τοῦ δρόμου κίνησιν, καὶ ἐκ πλαγίου γένοιτο τῇ ἀκτῖνι, τὸ πρὸ ὀλίγου ἀλαμπὲς ὑπολάμπειν ἄρχεται, τῆς ἀκτῖνος ἀπὸ τοῦπεφωτιςμένου πρὸς τὸ τέως ἀφανὲς ( l) μετιούςης, Ὁρᾷς οἷόν (Ξ) σοι γίνεται ἡ ὄψις διδάσκαλος, οὐκ ἄν σοι παρασχομένη διʼ ἑαυτῆς τῶν τοιούτων τὴν θεωρίαν, εἰ μή τι οὖν (lt) τὸ διὰ τῶν ὄψεων βλέπων, ὃ τοῖς κατʼ αἴσθησιν γινωσκομένοις οἷόν τισιν ὁδηγοῖς κεχρημένον διὰ τῶν φαινομένων, ἐπὶ τὰ μὴ βλεπόμενα (β) dictatis-.415; Τί δεῖ προστιῡὲνττι τὰς γεωμετρικὰς ἐφόδους διὰ τῶν αἰσθητῶν χαρα‹ γμάτων, πρὸς τὰ ὑπὲρ αϊσῦησιν ἡμᾶς χειραγωγούauc, καὶ μυρία ἐπὶ τούτοις ἄλλα, διʼ ὧν συνίσταται διὰ τῶν ὲν ἡμῖν σωματικῶς ἐνεργουμένων τῆς ἰγκεκρυμμένης τῇ φύσει ἡμῶν νοερᾶς οὐσίας τὴν κατάληψιν γίνεσθαι ; ——1". Τίδὲ, εἷπον, εί ὥσπερ κοινὸν μέν ἐστιν ἐπὶ τῆς αίσοητῆς τῶν στοιχείων φύσεως τὸ ὑλῶδες, διαφορὰ δὲ κατὰ τὸ ίδίοιζον ἐν ἑκάστῳ εῖδει τῆς ὕλης πολλὴ (ἥ τε γὰρ κίνησις αὑτοῖς ὲκ τοῦ ἐναντίου ἐστὶν, τοῦ μὲν ἀνωφεροῦς ὄντος, τοῦ δὲ ἐπὶ τοῦ κάτω βρίθοντος, τὸ δὲ εἶδος οὐ τὸ αὐτὸ, καὶὴ ποιότης διάφορος ἕν τινι), τούτων (Η) κατὰ τὸν λόγον συνουσιωμὲνην τἰς εἶναι λέγοι δύναμιν, τὴν τὰς νοητικὲις ταύτας φαντασίας τε καὶ κινήσεις. ὲκ φυσικῆς ἰδιότητάς τε καὶ δυνάμεως δνεργᾶῶσαη Οἷα δὴ πολλὰ βλέπομεν ὑπὸ τῶν (μηχανοποιῶν ἐνεργούμενα, ἐφʼ ὧν ἡ ὕλη τεχνικῶς

53 DE ANIMA ET rōsoai phōtos to stoicheion ' ou gar menei en tǭ pyknǭ tēs periodou diēnekōs antiprosōpos Thesis, hapan to pros hēmas tēs selēnēs meros dia tōn hēliakōn aktinōn pephōtismenon epoiēsen, houtōs hotan epi ta plagia ginetai tou hēliou tou aei katʼ auton ginomenou tēs selēnēs hēmisphairiou dielamoanomenou tę̄ tou aktinōn peribolę̄, to pros hēmas katʼ anankēn haposkiazetai, hantimeuistamenēs tēs lampēdonos apo tou mē dynamenou pros ton hēlion blepein merous epi ton aei katʼ ekei; non ginomenon, heōs an hypobasa katʼ eutheian ton hēliakon kyklon kata nōtou tēn aktina dexētai, kai houtō tou anōthen hēmisphairiou perilamphthentos aoraton poiei to pros hēmas meros, to einai katholou tę̄ [dią physei aphenges kai acheōtiston hoper dē pantelēs tou stoicheiou meiōsis legetai. Ei de parelthę̄ palin ton hēlion kata tēn idian tou dromou kinēsin, kai ek plagiou genoito tę̄ aktini, to pro oligou alampes hypolampein archetai, tēs aktinos apo toupephōtismenou pros to teōs aphanes ( l) metiousēs, Horąs hoion (X) soi ginetai hē opsis didaskalos, ouk an soi paraschomenē diʼ heautēs tōn toioutōn tēn theōrian, ei mē ti oun (lt) to dia tōn opseōn blepōn, ho tois katʼ aisthēsin ginōskomenois hoion tisin hodēgois kechrēmenon dia tōn phainomenōn, epi ta mē blepomena (b) dictatis-.415? Ti dei prostiyentti tas geōmetrikas ephodous dia tōn aisthētōn chara‹ gmatōn, pros ta hyper aïsyēsin hēmas cheiragōgouauc, kai myria epi toutois alla, diʼ hōn synistatai dia tōn en hēmin sōmatikōs energoumenōn tēs inkekrymmenēs tę̄ physei hēmōn noeras ousias tēn katalēpsin ginesthai ? ——1". Tide, heipon, ei hōsper koinon men estin epi tēs aisoētēs tōn stoicheiōn physeōs to hylōdes, diaphora de kata to idioizon en hekastǭ eidei tēs hylēs pollē (hē te gar kinēsis hautois ek tou enantiou estin, tou men anōpherous ontos, tou de epi tou katō brithontos, to de eidos ou to auto, kaiē poiotēs diaphoros hen tini), toutōn (Ē) kata ton logon synousiōmenēn tis einai legoi dynamin, tēn tas noētikeis tautas phantasias te kai kinēseis. ek physikēs idiotētas te kai dynameōs dnergaōsaē Hoia dē polla blepomen hypo tōn (mēchanopoiōn energoumena, ephʼ hōn hē hylē technikōs

… of light; for its position opposite does not remain continually in the quickness of its revolution … made the whole part of the moon toward us lit by the sun’s rays; so when it comes to the side of the sun, the hemisphere of the moon always facing the sun being taken up by the embrace of the rays, the side toward us is necessarily shadowed, the brightness moving from the part unable to look at the sun to the part always facing it; until, passing directly beneath the sun’s circle, it receives the ray on its back, and so, the upper hemisphere being lit all round, it makes the part toward us invisible, since by its own nature it is wholly without light and dark; and this is called the complete waning of the luminary. But if it passes the sun again by the motion of its own course and comes to the side of the ray, what was just now without light begins to shine faintly, the ray passing from the lit part to what was until then invisible. Do you see how sight becomes your teacher? It would not give you such knowledge by itself, unless there were something looking through the eyes, which uses the things known by sense as guides and through what appears looks into what is not seen. What need is there to add the methods of geometry, which lead us by the hand through sensible figures to things beyond sense, and countless other things besides, by which it is established that the perception of the intellectual substance hidden in our nature comes about through what is bodily at work in us?” Gregory: “But what,” I said, “if, as the material is common in the sensible nature of the elements, while there is a great difference in what is peculiar to each form of matter (for their motion is opposite, one being upward-tending and the other weighing downward, and the form is not the same, and the quality differs in each), someone were to say that there is a power essentially bound up with these by their principle, which produces these intellectual images and movements from a natural property and power? As we see many things worked by mechanics, in which matter, skilfully …”

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Notes and citation

Summary: Macrina ends her argument from astronomy: the eye alone could not teach the phases of the moon without a mind seeing through it. Gregory objects that thought might be a natural power of matter, like the workings of machines.

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Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 33 (PG 46:33a–33d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-33). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 35

35PG 46:36a–36d

διατεθεῖσα μιμεῖται τὴν φύσιν, οὐκ ἐν τῷ σχήματι μόνῳ δεικνῦσα τὸ ὅμοιον, ἀλλά καὶ ἐν κινήσει γίνεται, καὶ φθόγγον τινὰ ὑποκρίνεται,ιʼγχοῦντος ἐν τῷ φωνητικῷ μέρει τοῦ μηχανήματος, καὶ οὐδὲ που νοητήν τινα δύναμιν γινομένοις esset... ροῦμεν τὴν καθʼ ἕκαστον ἐργαζομένην τὸ σχῆμα, τὸ εἷδος, βξ), τὸν ἦχον, τὴν κίνησιν. Ei ταῦτα λέγομεν καὶ περὶ τδ μηχανικὸν τοῦτο τῆς φύσεως ἡμῶν ὄργανον, μηδεμιᾶς κατὰ τὸ ξδιάζον νοητῆς οὐσίας ἐγκεκραμένης γίνεσθαι, ἀλλά τινος τῇ φύσει τῶν ἐν ἡμῖν στοιχείων κινητικῆς δυνάμεως ἐγκειμένης, καὶ τὴν τοιαύτην ἐνέργειαν ἀποτέλεσμα εῖναι ἐφʼ,ἑαυτῆς τὴν νοητὴν ἐκείνην καὶ ἀσώματον τῆς ψυχῆς οὐσίαν ἀποδεικνύοιτο,ἢ τὸ μηδὸλως εἶναι ;. M. Ἡδὲ, Συμμαχεῖ, φησὶ, τῷλόγῳ καὶ τὸ ὑπόδειγμα, καὶ ἡ κατασκευὴ πᾶσα τῆς ἀνθυπενεχοείσης ἡμῖν ἀντιρρήσεως οὐ μικρὰ συντελέσει πρὸς τὴν τῶν νοηθέντων ἡμῖν βεβαιότητα.-Γ. ιξῶςοοῦν τοῦτο λέγειςς -Μ.Ὄτιτοι, φησι, τὸ οῦτωςείδέναι μεταχειρίζεσθαι τι κα) διατιθέναι τὴν ἄψυχον ῦλην, ὡς τὴν ἐναποτιθεῖσαν τοῖς μηχανήμασι τέχνην μικροῦ δεῖν ἀντί τῆς ψυχῆς τῇ ῦλῃ γίνεσθαι, διʼ ὧν κίνησίν τε καὶ ἦχον, καὶ σχήματα, καὶ τὰ τοιαῦτα καθυποκρίνεται, ἀπόδειξις ἂν εἴη τοῦ εἷναί τι τοιοῦτον ἐν τῷ ἀνθρώπῳ, ᾧ ταῦτα πέφυκε διὰ ο τῆς Θεωρητικῆς καὶ ἐφευρετικῆς δυνάμεως κατανοεῖν τε ἐν ἐαυτῷ κοιλ προκατασκευάζειν τῇ διανοίᾳ τὰ μηχανήματα, εἷθʼ οὕτως εἰς ἐνέργειαν διὰ τῆς τέχνης ἄγειν, καὶ διὰ τῆς ὕλης δεικνύειν τὸ νόημα. Προὲάν γὰρ ὅτι πνεύματῦς ἐστι χρεία πρὸς τὴν-ἐκφώνησιν, κατενόησεν · εἷθʼ ὅπως ἂν ἐπινοηθείη πνεῦμα τῷ μηχανήματι τῷ λογισμῷ προεξήτασε, τὴν τῶν στοιχείων φύσιν ἐπισκεψάμενος, ὃτι οὐδὲν κενὸν ἐν τοῖς οὗσίν ἐστιν, ἀλλὰ πρὸς τὸ βαρύτερον παραθέσει κενὸν τὸ κοῦφον νομίζεται, ἐπεὶ καὶ αὐτὸς ἐφʼ ἑαυτοῦ κατʼ ίδίαν ὑπόστασιν μεστός τε ὁ ἀὴρ καὶ πλήρης ἐστί. Διάκενον γὰρ τὸ ἀγγεῖον ἐκ καταχρήσεως λέγεται. Ὅταν γὰρ τοῦ ὑγροῦ κενὸν ᾖ, οὐδὲν ἦττον μεστὸν ἀέρος πεπαιδευμένος καὶ τοῦτο λέγει. Σημεῖον δέ τὸν ἐπαχθέντα τῇ λίμνῃ ἀμφορέα μὴ εὐθὺς πληροῦσθαι τοῦ ὕδατος, ἀλλʼ ἐπιπολάζειν τὰ πρῶτα, τοῦ ἐναπειλημμένου ἀέρος

diatetheisa mimeitai tēn physin, ouk en tǭ schēmati monǭ deiknysa to homoion, alla kai en kinēsei ginetai, kai phthongon tina hypokrinetai,iʼnchountos en tǭ phōnētikǭ merei tou mēchanēmatos, kai oude pou noētēn tina dynamin ginomenois esset... roumen tēn kathʼ hekaston ergazomenēn to schēma, to heidos, bx), ton ēchon, tēn kinēsin. Ei tauta legomen kai peri td mēchanikon touto tēs physeōs hēmōn organon, mēdemias kata to xdiazon noētēs ousias enkekramenēs ginesthai, alla tinos tę̄ physei tōn en hēmin stoicheiōn kinētikēs dynameōs enkeimenēs, kai tēn toiautēn energeian apotelesma einai ephʼ,heautēs tēn noētēn ekeinēn kai asōmaton tēs psychēs ousian apodeiknyoito,ē to mēdolōs einai ?. M. Hēde, Symmachei, phēsi, tǭlogǭ kai to hypodeigma, kai hē kataskeuē pasa tēs anthypenechoeisēs hēmin antirrēseōs ou mikra syntelesei pros tēn tōn noēthentōn hēmin bebaiotēta.-G. ixōsooun touto legeiss -M.Otitoi, phēsi, to outōseidenai metacheirizesthai ti ka) diatithenai tēn apsychon ylēn, hōs tēn enapotitheisan tois mēchanēmasi technēn mikrou dein anti tēs psychēs tę̄ ylę̄ ginesthai, diʼ hōn kinēsin te kai ēchon, kai schēmata, kai ta toiauta kathypokrinetai, apodeixis an eiē tou heinai ti toiouton en tǭ anthrōpǭ, hǭ tauta pephyke dia o tēs Theōrētikēs kai epheuretikēs dynameōs katanoein te en eautǭ koil prokataskeuazein tę̄ dianoią ta mēchanēmata, heithʼ houtōs eis energeian dia tēs technēs agein, kai dia tēs hylēs deiknyein to noēma. Proean gar hoti pneumatys esti chreia pros tēn-ekphōnēsin, katenoēsen ; heithʼ hopōs an epinoētheiē pneuma tǭ mēchanēmati tǭ logismǭ proexētase, tēn tōn stoicheiōn physin episkepsamenos, hoti ouden kenon en tois housin estin, alla pros to baryteron parathesei kenon to kouphon nomizetai, epei kai autos ephʼ heautou katʼ idian hypostasin mestos te ho aēr kai plērēs esti. Diakenon gar to angeion ek katachrēseōs legetai. Hotan gar tou hygrou kenon ę̄, ouden ētton meston aeros pepaideumenos kai touto legei. Sēmeion de ton epachthenta tę̄ limnę̄ amphorea mē euthys plērousthai tou hydatos, allʼ epipolazein ta prōta, tou enapeilēmmenou aeros

“… arranged, imitates nature, showing likeness not in shape only but also coming to be in motion, and it imitates a sound when the vocal part of the machine resounds; yet we see no intelligible power anywhere in what is happening that works the shape, the form, the sound, the motion in each case. If we say this also about this mechanical instrument of our nature, that it comes about with no particular intelligible substance mixed in, but by a moving power lying in the nature of the elements in us, and that such activity is the result of that power by itself, would that intelligible and incorporeal substance of the soul be shown to be anything at all, or not to exist at all?” Macrina: “The example,” she said, “is an ally of our argument too, and the whole construction of the objection you have put to us will contribute not a little to the confirmation of what we have thought.” Gregory: “How do you say that?” Macrina: “Because,” she said, “to know how to handle and arrange lifeless matter so that the art put into the machines almost takes the place of the soul in the matter, by which they imitate motion and sound and shapes and the like, would be a proof that there is something of this kind in man, by which he is naturally able, through his power of contemplation and invention, to conceive these things within himself and design the machines beforehand in his mind, and then bring them into operation by art and show his thought through matter. For first he understood that breath is needed for producing sound; then he examined beforehand by reasoning how breath might be contrived for the machine, considering the nature of the elements: that there is nothing empty in existing things, but what is light is thought empty by comparison with what is heavier, since air itself in its own existence is full and complete. A vessel is called empty by a misuse of the word; for when it is empty of liquid, one who has been taught says that it is no less full of air. A sign of this is that a jar brought down to a pool is not at once filled with water but floats at first, the air enclosed …

Notes and citation

Summary: Gregory asks whether thought might be a mechanical power of matter, like an automaton; Macrina replies that the inventor who designs such machines in his mind proves the existence of an intelligent soul, and begins to explain how the water-organ was devised.

  • Several lines of the critical apparatus printed at the foot of Migne’s page leaked into the digital text at the end of this unit and are removed (logged). The machine described (a water-organ, operated by water forcing air into pipes) continues in the next unit.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (leaked apparatus (variant readings) removed): Ἐναδτοτιᾷεῒσαιςηᾼ in Lemn ἐναποληφῦεῇ σαν, in margine ὲναποτέθεῖσαν. Β ἐναποτεοεῖσάν. It τοιοῦτον, Β τοιοῦτόν τι. ῼ ταῦτα. Α ὃ ταῦτα. 21) Ἔν ἐαυτῷ. Β ἐν αὐτῷ. ἓξ) ηρόςοβ tii πρός. ’ 26). ψεστός τέο diu) κ. π. ὲ. Α ὁ ἀὴρ ναστός τε → .

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 35 (PG 46:36a–36d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-35). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Chapter 37

37PG 46:37a–37d

ἐπὶ sb ἄνω τὸ κοῖλον ἀνέχοντος, ἕως ἂν πιεσθεὶς ὸ ἀμφορεὺς τῇ χειρὶ τοῦ ἀρυομενον ὲν τῷ βάθει γίνεται, καὶ τοῦτο δέξηται τῷ στόματι τὸ ὕδωρ· οὗ γινομένου δείκνυται τὸ μὴ κενδν αὑτὸν εἶναι καὶ πρὸ τοῦ ὕδατος. Μάχη γάρ τις περὶ. τῷ στόματι τῶν δύο στοιχείων ὁρᾶται, τοῦ μὲν ὕδατος ὑπὸ βάρους ἐπὶ τὸ κοῖλον βιαζομένου τε καὶ είσρέοντος, τοῦ δὲ ἀέρος τοῦ ἐναπειλημμένου τῷ κοίλῳ διὰ τοῦ αὐτοῦ στόματος ἐπὶ τὸ ἔμπαλιν συνθλιβομένου περὶ τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ ἀναρρέοντος, ὡς καὶ ἀνακόπτεσθαι διὰ τούτου καὶ ἀνακοχλὰζειν τὸ ὕδωρ περιαφρίζον τῇ βίᾳ τοῦ πνεύματος. Ταῦτα οὖν κατενόησε, καὶ ὅπως ἂν ὲντεθείη πνεῦμα τῷ μηχανήματι διὰ τῆς τῶν στοιχείων φύσεως ἐπενόησε. Κοῖλον γάρ τι ὲκ στεγανῆς ὕλης καταᾱκευάσας, καὶ πανταχόθεν τὸν ἐν αὐτῷ ἀέρα περισχὼν ἀδιάπνευστον, ἐπάγει τὸ ὕδωρ διὰ στόματος (fl) τῷ κοίλῳ, κατὰ τὸ μέτρον τῆς χρείας τὺ ποσὸν συμμετρήσας τοῦ ὓδατος, εἷθʼ obtine ἐπὶ τὸν παρακείμενον αὺλὺν δίδωσι κατὰ τὸ ἀντικείμενον τῷ ἀέρι τὴν δίοδον, ἐκθλιβόμενος δὲτῷ ὕδατι βιαιὸτερον ὁ ἀὴρ πνεῦμα γίνεται· ὅπερ ἐκπίπτον τῇ κατασκευῇ τοῦ αὐλοῦ τὸν ἦχον ποιεῖ.

epi sb anō to koilon anechontos, heōs an piestheis o amphoreus tę̄ cheiri tou aryomenon en tǭ bathei ginetai, kai touto dexētai tǭ stomati to hydōr; hou ginomenou deiknytai to mē kendn hauton einai kai pro tou hydatos. Machē gar tis peri. tǭ stomati tōn dyo stoicheiōn horatai, tou men hydatos hypo barous epi to koilon biazomenou te kai eisreontos, tou de aeros tou enapeilēmmenou tǭ koilǭ dia tou autou stomatos epi to empalin synthlibomenou peri to hydōr, kai anarreontos, hōs kai anakoptesthai dia toutou kai anakochlazein to hydōr periaphrizon tę̄ bią tou pneumatos. Tauta oun katenoēse, kai hopōs an entetheiē pneuma tǭ mēchanēmati dia tēs tōn stoicheiōn physeōs epenoēse. Koilon gar ti ek steganēs hylēs kataakeuasas, kai pantachothen ton en autǭ aera perischōn adiapneuston, epagei to hydōr dia stomatos (fl) tǭ koilǭ, kata to metron tēs chreias ty poson symmetrēsas tou hydatos, heithʼ obtine epi ton parakeimenon aulyn didōsi kata to antikeimenon tǭ aeri tēn diodon, ekthlibomenos detǭ hydati biaioteron ho aēr pneuma ginetai; hoper ekpipton tę̄ kataskeuę̄ tou aulou ton ēchon poiei.

… holding the hollow up, until the jar, pressed down by the hand of the one drawing water, goes into the depth and takes in the water at its mouth. When this happens it is shown that it was not empty even before the water. For a kind of battle between the two elements is seen at the mouth: the water forced by its weight into the hollow and flowing in, the air enclosed in the hollow pressed out through the same mouth in the opposite direction against the water and flowing up, so that the water is checked by it and bubbles up, foaming around under the force of the air. He understood these things, then, and devised how breath might be put into the machine through the nature of the elements. Making a hollow of watertight material and enclosing the air in it on every side so that it could not escape, he brings water into the hollow through an opening, measuring the amount of water to the need; then he gives the air a passage into the pipe lying beside it, on the side opposite; and the air, forced out more violently by the water, becomes wind, which, rushing out through the construction of the pipe, makes the sound.

Textual problem in this passage: see the notes.

Notes and citation

Summary: Macrina explains how the inventor of the water-organ, by observing that air fills seemingly empty vessels, devised a way to drive air into pipes with water.

  • The conclusion of Macrina’s argument, at the foot of Migne’s page, is lost in the scan; the next unit resumes mid-sentence.

Cite (SBL): Gregory of Nyssa, An. et res. 37 (PG 46:37a–37d; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/gregory-nyssa-anima-resurrectione/11/#p-37). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Greek of Migne's Patrologia Graeca (scan OCR, corrections logged; lines lost in the scan marked …), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 5 (Moore and Wilson, 1893); differences checked against the Greek.