Letters 136.1–136.3

Latin text: Goldbacher, CSEL 34, 44, 57 (Latin text: Alois Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57, 1895–1911), digitized by Open Greek and Latin (csel-dev, University of Leipzig), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 1, vol. 1 (1886).

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Chapter 136

136.1CSEL 44:93–94

Vir inlustris Volusianus beatitudinis tuae mihi litteras legit, immo me quidem cogente pluribus legit, quae, licet omnia, quae a te dicuntur, uere miranda sint, usque quaque miratus sum. sermonis enim diuini gratia humiliter tumens facile, ut placeret, emeruit. hinc enim plurimum placuit, quod hominis gressus aliquanto titubantes boni propositi exhortatione statuere et firmare contendis. est enim nobis cum eodem cotidiana pro uiribus nostris et pro ingenii paupertate disputatio, sanctae si quidem matris eius precatione compulsus cura mihi est eum frequentius salutandi, licet uicem in hac parte reddere etiam ipse dignatur. accepta autem uenerabilitatis tuae epistula homo, qui a uerae fidei stabilitate multorum, quorum in hac urbe copia est, persuasione reuocatur, ita motus est, ut, si, quantum ipse confirmat, litterarum prolixitatem minime formidasset, omne beatitudini tuae, quod habere potest, insinuasset ambiguum. sed tamen satis, sicut etiam ipse probare dignaberis, culto accuratoque sermone et Romanae eloquentiae nitore perspicuo aliqua sibi exolui impendio postulauit. quae quidem quaestio usque quaque detrita est et eorum super hac parte satis nota calliditas, qui dispensationem dominicae incarnationis infamant. sed tamen etiam ego in hac parte, quia plurimis, quicquid rescripseris, profuturum esse confido, precator accesserim, ut ad ea uigilantius respondere digneris, in quibus nihil amplius dominum, quam alii homines facere potuerunt, fecisse mentiuntur, Apollonium si quidem suum nobis et Apuleium aliosque magicae artis homines in medium proferunt, quorum maiora contendunt extitisse miracula.

The illustrious Volusian read me Your Blessedness's letter; indeed, at my urging, he read it to several people; and although everything you say is truly admirable, I admired it beyond measure. For with the grace of divine speech, humbly swelling, it easily earned approval. It pleased most of all in this, that you strive by the exhortation of a good purpose to steady and strengthen the man's somewhat stumbling steps. For I have daily discussion with him, as far as my strength and poverty of talent allow; since, urged by the prayer of his holy mother, I take care to call on him rather often, though he too deigns to return the visit on his side. Having received Your Reverence's letter, the man, who is drawn back from the stability of the true faith by the persuasion of many people, of whom there is an abundance in this city, was so moved that, if, as he himself affirms, he had not been much afraid of the length of a letter, he would have laid before Your Blessedness every doubt that he can have. Nevertheless, in language polished and careful enough, as you yourself will deign to judge, and with the clear brilliance of Roman eloquence, he has earnestly asked that certain points be resolved for him. This question has indeed been thoroughly worn out, and the cunning of those who defame the dispensation of the Lord's incarnation on this point is well known. Yet I too would come forward as a petitioner on this matter, since I am confident that whatever you write in reply will benefit very many, that you may deign to answer more carefully on the points where they falsely claim that the Lord did nothing more than other men have been able to do; for they bring forward their Apollonius and Apuleius and other men of the magical art, whose miracles they contend were greater.

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Summary: Marcellinus writes to Augustine that Volusian has sent him questions on the incarnation, and asks him to answer the claim that Apollonius and Apuleius worked greater miracles than Christ.

  • Letter 136 is from Marcellinus to Augustine. Apollonius of Tyana (first-century wonder-worker) and Apuleius of Madaura were cited by pagans as rivals of Christ's miracles.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (doubled mark): proferunt,, → proferunt,.

Topics: Christology

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 136.1 (CSEL 44:93–94; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/136-1/#p-136-1).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.

136.2CSEL 44:94–96

Ipse autem uir inlustris superius memoratus multas esse dixit praesentibus aliquantis, quae huic possint iungi non inmerito, quaestiones, sicut ante dixi, si non ab eius partibus epistularis considerata breuitas fuisset. quae tamen licet scribere noluerit, tacere non passus est. dicebat enim, quod, etsi sibi hodie incarnationis dominicae ratio redderetur, reddi uix ad liquidum possit, cur hic deus, qui et ueteris testamenti deus esse firmatur, spretis ueteribus sacrificiis delectatus sit nouis. nihil enim corrigi posse adserebat, nisi quod ante factum non recte probaretur, uel, quod semel recte factum sit, inmutari nullatenus debuisse. recte enim facta dicebat mutari nisi iniuste non posse, maxime quia ista uanitas inconstantiae deum possit arguere, tum deinde quod eius praedicatio atque doctrina rei publicae moribus nulla ex parte conueniat, utpote sicuti a multis dicitur, cuius hoc constat esse praeceptum, ut nulli malum pro malo reddere debeamus et percutienti aliam praebere maxillam et pallium dare tunicam tollere persistenti et cum eo, qui nos angariare uoluerit, ire debere spatio itineris duplicato, quae omnia rei publicae moribus adserit esse contraria. nam quis tolli sibi ab hoste aliquid patiatur uel Romanae prouinciae depraedatori non mala uelit belli iure reponere? et cetera, quae dici ad reliqua posse intellegit uenerabilitas tua. haec ergo omnia ipsi posse iungi aestimat quaestioni in tantum, ut per Christianos principes Christianam religionem maxima ex parte seruantes tanta, etiam si ipse de hac parte taceat, rei publicae mala euenisse manifestum sit.

The illustrious man mentioned above said, in the presence of several people, that there are many questions which could not unfittingly be joined to this one, as I said before, if the brevity proper to a letter had not been considered on his part. Though he would not write them, he did not let them go unsaid. For he said that even if an account of the Lord's incarnation were given him today, it could hardly be given clearly why this God, who is also affirmed to be the God of the Old Testament, scorned the old sacrifices and was pleased with new ones. For he asserted that nothing can be corrected unless what was done before is shown not to have been done rightly, or that what was once done rightly ought by no means to have been changed. For he said that things rightly done cannot be changed except unjustly, especially because such fickleness might convict God of inconstancy. Then also that Christ's preaching and teaching are in no way compatible with the customs of the state, since, as many say, it is well known that his precept is that we should render evil for evil to no one, and offer the other cheek to one who strikes us, and give our cloak to one who persists in taking our tunic, and go twice the distance of the journey with one who wishes to press us into service; all of which he asserts are contrary to the customs of the state. For who would allow something to be taken from him by an enemy, or not wish to repay, by the law of war, evils to the plunderer of a Roman province? And other things which Your Reverence understands could be said in reply to the rest. All these things, then, he thinks can be joined to the question, all the more since it is evident (even if he himself is silent on this point) that such great evils have befallen the state under Christian emperors who for the most part observe the Christian religion.

Matt 5:39 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:40 (allusion, high confidence) · Matt 5:41 (allusion, high confidence) · Rom 12:17 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Marcellinus reports Volusian's further objections: why God changed the sacrifices, and how Christ's teaching on non-retaliation can be compatible with the state, given the evils under Christian emperors.

  • Matt 5:39–41; Rom 12:17. The objection about Christian emperors reflects pagan reaction after the sack of Rome (410).

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 136.2 (CSEL 44:94–96; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/136-1/#p-136-2).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.

136.3CSEL 44:96

Unde, sicut beatitudo tua mecum dignatur agnoscere, ad haec omnia, quoniam multorum manibus sine dubio tradetur sanctitatis tuae desiderata responsio, plenus debet et elucubratus solutionis splendor ostendi, maxime quia, cum ista gererentur, eximius Hipponiensis regionis possessor et dominus praesens aderat, qui et sanctitatem tuam sub ironiae adulatione laudaret et sibi, cum de his quaereret, minime satis factum esse contenderet ego uero ad haec omnia promissionis non inmemor sed exactor libros confici deprecor ecclesiae hoc maxime tempore incredibiliter profuturos.

Therefore, as Your Blessedness deigns to recognize with me, since the reply we desire from Your Holiness will no doubt be passed through many hands, a full and carefully worked-out solution of brilliant clarity ought to be shown to all these points; especially because, while these things were going on, a distinguished landowner and lord of the region of Hippo was present, who praised Your Holiness with ironic flattery and maintained that he had by no means been satisfied when he inquired about these things. I, for my part, not forgetful of your promise but demanding its fulfilment, beg that books be written which will be of incredible benefit to the church, especially at this time.

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Summary: Marcellinus asks Augustine to answer these questions fully, in books that will serve the church, since a landowner of Hippo claimed he had found no satisfactory answer.

  • The request for "books" led to Augustine's City of God, dedicated to Marcellinus.

Cite (SBL): Augustine, Ep. 136.3 (CSEL 44:96; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/augustine-epistulae/136-1/#p-136-3).

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Translation: Translated by Claude (Opus) from the Latin of Goldbacher (CSEL 34, 44, 57; 1895–1911); each batch compared afterwards with the public-domain translation of J. G. Cunningham in NPNF¹ 1 (1886) where it exists; letters it lacks or summarizes were re-read against the Latin.