Dialogues 1.16–2.3

Latin text: Halm, CSEL 1 (Latin text: Karl Halm (CSEL 1, 1866), digitized by Open Greek and Latin, University of Leipzig (csel-dev), CC BY-SA 4.0).English: Claude (claude-opus-5-5), public domain (CC0). Compare: Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, series 2, vol. 11 (1894).

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1.16CSEL 1:168–169

Erat etiam alterius anachoretae in illis regionibus nomen inlustre, qui in ea parte deserti, quae est Syenis, habitabat. hic cum primum se ad eremum contulisset, herbarum radicibus, quas praedulcis interdum et saporis eximii fert harena, uicturus, ignarus germinis eligendi nociua plerumque carpebat. nec erat facile uim radicum sapore discernere, quia omnia aeque dulcia erant, sed pleraque occultiore natura uirus letale cohibebant. cum ergo edentem uis interna torqueret et inmensis doloribus uitalia uniuersa quaterentur ac frequens uomitus cruciatibus non ferendis ipsam animae sedem stomacho iam fatiscente dissolueret, omnia penitus quae sunt edenda formidans septimum ieiunus diem spiritu deficiente ducebat, cum ad eum fera, cui ibicis est nomen, accessit. huic propius adstanti fasciculum herbarum, quem collectum pridie adtingere non audebat, obiecit: sed bestia quae uirulenta erant ore discutiens, quae innoxia nouerat eligebat. ita uir sanctus eius exemplo quid edere, quid respuere deberet edoctus, et periculum famis euasit et herbarum uenena uitauit. sed longum est, de omnibus, qui eremum incolunt, conperta nobis uel audita memorare. annum integrum et septem fere menses intra solitudinem constitutus exegi, magis uirtutis admirator alienae, quam quod ipse tam arduum adque difficile potuerim temptare propositum: saepius tamen cum sene illo, qui puteum et bouem habebat, habitaui.

“There was also the famous name of another anchorite in those regions, who lived in the part of the desert that belongs to Syene. When he had first gone to the desert, intending to live on the roots of plants, which the sand sometimes produces very sweet and of excellent flavor, not knowing how to choose the plants he often picked harmful ones. Nor was it easy to tell the strength of the roots by taste, for all were equally sweet, but many, by a more hidden nature, contained a deadly poison. So when the force within tormented him as he ate, and all his vital organs were shaken with immense pains, and frequent vomiting with unbearable agonies was dissolving the very seat of life, his stomach already failing, he was so afraid of everything edible that he was spending the seventh day fasting, his breath failing, when a wild animal called an ibex came up to him. As it stood close by, he threw to it a bundle of plants which he had gathered the day before and did not dare to touch; and the beast, pushing aside with its mouth those that were poisonous, picked out those it knew to be harmless. So the holy man, taught by its example what he ought to eat and what reject, both escaped the danger of starvation and avoided the poisons of the plants. But it would take long to tell what we learned or heard about all who inhabit the desert. I spent a whole year and about seven months living in the solitude, more an admirer of others’ virtue than able myself to attempt so arduous and difficult a way of life; yet I lived most often with that old man who had the well and the ox.

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Summary: An anchorite near Syene, poisoned by desert roots, learns from an ibex which plants are safe; Postumianus spent about nineteen months in the desert.

  • Syene is Aswan.

Topics: Fasting

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.16 (CSEL 1:168–169; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-16). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.17CSEL 1:169–170

Duo beati Antoni monasteria adii, quae hodieque ab eius discipulis incoluntur. ad eum etiam locum, in quo beatissimus Paulus primus eremita est diuersatus, accessi. rubrum mare uidi, iugum Sina montis, cuius cacumen caelo paene contiguum est et nequaquam adiri potest. inter eius recessus anachoreta esse aliqui ferebatur, quem diu multumque quaesitum uidere non potui, qui fere iam ante quinquaginta annos a conuersatione humana remotus nullo uestis usu, saetis corporis sui tectus, nuditatem suam diuino munere nesciebat. hic quotiens eum religiosi uiri adire uoluerunt, cursu auia petens occursum uitabat humanum. uni tantummodo ferebatur se ante quinquennium praebuisse, qui credo potenti fide id obtinere promeruit: cui inter multa conloquia percontanti, cur homines tantopere uitaret, respondisse perhibetur, eum, qui ab hominibus frequentaretur, non posse ab angelis frequentari. unde non inmerito recepta opinione multorum fama uulgauerat, sanctum illum ab angelis uisitari. ego autem a Sina monte digressus ad Nilum flumen regressus, cuius ripas frequentibus monasteriis consertas utraque ex parte lustraui. plerumque uidi, ut dudum dixeram, uno in loco habitare centenos, sed et bina et terna milia in isdem uiculis agere constabat. nec sane ibi minorem putetis diuersantium in multitudine monachorum esse uirtutem, quam eorum esse cognouistis, qui se ab humanis coetibus remouerunt. praecipua, ut iam dixeram, ibi uirtus et prima est oboedientia: neque aliter adueniens a monasterii abbate suscipitur, quam qui temptatus prius fuerit et probatus, nullum umquam recusaturus quamlibet arduum ac difficile indignumque toleratu abbatis imperium.

“I went to the two monasteries of the blessed Antony, which are inhabited by his disciples to this day. I also went to the place where the most blessed Paul, the first hermit, lived. I saw the Red Sea and the ridge of Mount Sinai, whose summit almost touches heaven and cannot be reached at all. Among its recesses a certain anchorite was said to live, whom, after long and hard searching, I could not see. Withdrawn from human society for nearly fifty years already, wearing no clothing, covered with the hair of his body, he did not know his nakedness, by the gift of God. Whenever devout men wished to approach him, he would run off to pathless places and avoid meeting people. He was said to have shown himself to only one person, five years before, who, I believe, deserved to obtain this by his strong faith; and when that man, among many conversations, asked him why he avoided people so much, he is said to have answered that one who is visited by men cannot be visited by angels. Hence, not without reason, report had spread abroad, accepted by many, that that holy man was visited by angels. For my part, leaving Mount Sinai, I returned to the river Nile, whose banks, crowded with monasteries, I traveled along on both sides. For the most part I saw, as I said before, a hundred living in one place; but it was well known that two and three thousand lived in the same villages. And do not suppose that there is less virtue there among the monks living in a multitude than you have learned there is among those who have withdrawn from human company. The chief and first virtue there, as I have said, is obedience; nor is a newcomer received by the abbot of a monastery in any other way than after he has first been tested and proved, as one who will never refuse any command of the abbot, however arduous and difficult and hard to bear.

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Summary: Postumianus visits Antony’s monasteries, the place of Paul the first hermit, the Red Sea, and Sinai, where a naked hermit avoided men to be visited by angels; along the Nile thousands of monks live under obedience.

  • Paul of Thebes is the subject of Jerome’s Life of Paul the First Hermit.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.17 (CSEL 1:169–170; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-17). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.18CSEL 1:170–171

Duo uobis referam incredibilis oboedientiae admodum magna miracula, licet suppetant plura recolenti: sed ad incitandam uirtutum aemulationem, cui pauca non sufficiunt, multa non proderunt. ergo cum quidam saeculi actibus abdicatis monasterium magnae dispositionis ingressus suscipi se rogaret, abbas ei coepit multa proponere: graues esse istius disciplinae labores, sua uero dura imperia, quae nullius facile ualeret inplere patientia: aliud potius monasterium, ubi facilioribus legibus uiueretur, expeteret: non temptaret adgredi, quod inplere non posset. ille uero nihil his terroribus permoueri, sed magis ita omnem oboedientiam polliceri, ut, si eum abbas in ignem ire praeciperet, non recusaret intrare. quam illius professionem ubi magister accepit, non cunctatus probare profitentem. casu clibanus propter ardebat, qui multo igne succensus coquendis panibus parabatur: exundabat abruptis flamma fornacibus, et intra camini illius concaua totis habenis regnabat incendium. hic aduenam illum iubet magister intrare, nec distulit parere praecepto: medias flammas nihil cunctatus ingreditur, quae mox tam audaci fide uictae uelut illis quondam Hebraeis pueris cessere uenienti. superata natura est, fugit incendium: et qui putabatur arsurus, uelut frigido rore perfusus se ipse miratus est. sed quid mirum, si tuum, Christe, tironem ignis ille non adtigit? ut nec abbatem pigeret dura mandasse nec discipulum paeniteret imperio paruisse: qui eo quo aduenerat die, dum temptaretur infirmus, perfectus inuentus est: merito felix, merito gloriosus, probatus oboedientia, glorificatus est passione.

“I will tell you two very great miracles of incredible obedience, though more come to mind as I recall them; but for stirring up emulation of virtues, those for whom a few are not enough will not be helped by many. So when a certain man, having renounced the affairs of the world, came to a monastery of great discipline and asked to be received, the abbot began to set many things before him: the labors of that discipline were heavy, and his own commands harsh, such as no one’s patience could easily fulfill; he should rather seek another monastery, where people lived under easier rules, and not attempt to undertake what he could not carry out. But he was not at all moved by these threats; rather he promised complete obedience, so that if the abbot ordered him to go into the fire, he would not refuse to enter. When the master heard this profession, he did not hesitate to test the one who made it. As it happened, an oven was burning nearby, heated with a great fire and being made ready for baking bread: the flame was pouring out of the open furnace, and within the hollow of that oven the fire reigned with full rein. The master orders the newcomer to go in there, and he did not delay to obey the command: without hesitation he walked into the midst of the flames, which, overcome at once by so bold a faith, gave way to him as he came, as once to the Hebrew youths. Nature was overcome, the fire fled; and he who was expected to burn was himself amazed to be as though bathed in cool dew. But what wonder, Christ, if that fire did not touch your recruit? So that neither did the abbot regret having given hard orders, nor the disciple repent of having obeyed the command; on the very day he had come, while he was being tested as weak, he was found perfect; deservedly happy, deservedly glorious, proved by obedience, he was glorified by suffering.

Dan 3:27 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: A newcomer who promised to obey even if ordered into fire walked into a burning oven at the abbot’s command and was unharmed.

  • Allusion: Dan 3:23–27.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.18 (CSEL 1:170–171; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-18). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.19CSEL 1:171–172

In eodem autem monasterio factum id, quod dicturus sum, recenti memoria ferebatur. quidam itidem ad eundem abbatem recipiendus aduenerat. cum prima ei lex oboedientiae poneretur ac perpetem polliceretur ad omnia uel extrema patientiam, casu abbas storacinam uirgam iam pridem aridam manu gerebat. hanc solo figit adque illi aduenae id operis inponit, ut tamdiu uirgulae aquam inriguam ministraret, donec, quod contra omnem naturam erat, lignum aridum in solo arente uiresceret. subiectus aduena durae legis imperio aquam propriis umeris cotidie conuehebat, quae a Nilo flumine per duo fere milia petebatur. iamque emenso anni spatio labor non cessabat operantis, et de fructu operis spes esse non poterat: tamen oboedientiae uirtus in labore durabat. sequens quoque annus uanum laborem iam affecti fratris eludit. tertio demum succedentium temporum labente curriculo, cum neque noctu neque interdiu aquarius ille cessaret operator, uirga floruit. ego ipsam ex illa uirgula arbusculam uidi, quae hodieque in atrio monasterii ramis uirentibus quasi in testimonium manens, quantum oboedientia meruerit et quantum fides possit, ostendit. sed me dies ante deficiet, quam diuersa miracula, quae mihi de sanctorum uirtutibus sunt conperta, consummem.

“In the same monastery, what I am going to tell was reported as a recent memory. Another man had likewise come to the same abbot to be received. When the first law of obedience was laid on him, and he promised unending patience in all things, even the most extreme, the abbot happened to be holding in his hand a staff of storax wood, long since dried up. He fixed it in the ground and laid this task on the newcomer: to keep the stick watered until, against all nature, the dry wood should grow green in the dry ground. The newcomer, submitting to the command of this hard law, carried water every day on his own shoulders, fetched from the river Nile about two miles away. And now a year had passed, and the worker’s labor did not cease, though there could be no hope of fruit from the work; yet the virtue of obedience held out in the labor. The following year too mocked the vain labor of the now exhausted brother. At last, as the third course of the seasons was passing, while that water-carrier did not cease working night or day, the stick blossomed. I saw the little tree itself that grew from that stick, which to this day stands in the courtyard of the monastery with green branches, as though remaining as a witness, and shows how much obedience has merited and how much faith can do. But the day will fail me before I finish the various miracles I have learned of the virtues of the saints.

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Summary: A novice ordered to water a dry stick carried water from the Nile for three years until it blossomed; Postumianus saw the tree.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): cotidie, conuehebat → cotidie conuehebat.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.19 (CSEL 1:171–172; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-19). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.20CSEL 1:172–173

Duo uobis adhuc praeclara memorabo: quorum unum egregium erit aduersus inflationem miserae uanitatis exemplum, alterum aduersus falsam iustitiam non mediocre documentum. quidam ergo sanctus, fugandorum de corporibus obsessis daemonum incredibili praeditus potestate, inaudita per singulos dies signa faciebat. non solum enim praesens, neque uerbo tantum, sed absens quoque interdum cilicii sui fimbriis aut epistulis missis corpora obsessa curabat. hic ergo mirum in modum frequentabatur a populis ex toto ad eum orbe uenientibus. taceo de minoribus: praefecti comitesque ac diuersarum iudices potestatum pro foribus illius saepe iacuerunt. episcopi quoque sanctissimi, sacerdotali auctoritate deposita, contingi se ab eo adque benedici humiliter postulantes, sanctificatos se ac diuino munere inlustratos, quotiens manum illius uestemque contigerant, non inmerito crediderunt. hic ferebatur omni potu in perpetuum penitus abstinere ac pro cibo - tibi, Sulpici, in aurem loquar, ne Gallus hoc audiat — sex tantum caricis sustentari. interea sancto uiro ut ex uirtute honor, ita ex honore uanitas coepit obrepere. quod malum ille ubi primum potuit in se sentire grassari, diu multumque discutere conatus est, sed repelli penitus uel tacita conscientia uanitatis perseuerante uirtute non potuit. ubique nomen eius daemones fatebantur: excludere a se confluentium populos non ualebat. uirus interim latens serpebat in pectore, et cuius nutu ex aliorum corporibus daemones fugabantur, se ipsum occultis cogitationibus uanitatis purgare non poterat. totis igitur precibus conuersus ad Deum fertur orasse, ut permissa in se mensibus quinque diabolo potestate similis his fieret, quos ipse curauerat. quid multis morer? ille praepotens, ille signis adque uirtutibus toto Oriente uulgatus, ille ad cuius limina populi ante confluxerant, ad cuius fores summae istius saeculi se prostrauerant potestates, correptus a daemone est retentus in uinculis: omnia demum illa, quae energumeni solent ferre, perpessus quinto mense purgatus est non tantum daemone, sed, quod illi erat utilius adque optatius, uanitate.

“I will tell you two more remarkable things: one will be an excellent example against the swelling of wretched vanity, the other no small lesson against false righteousness. A certain holy man, endowed with an incredible power of putting demons to flight from possessed bodies, worked unheard-of signs every day. For he healed possessed bodies not only when present, and not only by a word, but sometimes also when absent, by the fringes of his hair shirt or by sending letters. So he was visited in a wonderful way by peoples coming to him from the whole world. I say nothing of lesser people: prefects and counts and judges of various ranks often lay before his doors. Most holy bishops too, laying aside their priestly authority, humbly begged to be touched and blessed by him, and believed, not without reason, that they were sanctified and enlightened by a divine gift whenever they had touched his hand or garment. He was said to abstain entirely from all drink forever, and for food (I will whisper it in your ear, Sulpicius, so that Gallus does not hear) to live on only six dried figs. Meanwhile, as honor came to the holy man from his power, so from honor vanity began to creep in. When he first could feel this evil spreading in him, he tried long and hard to shake it off; but it could not be wholly driven out, even by silently acknowledging the vanity, while his power persisted. Everywhere the demons confessed his name; he could not shut out the crowds flocking to him. Meanwhile the hidden poison was creeping in his breast, and he at whose nod demons were driven from the bodies of others could not cleanse himself of the secret thoughts of vanity. So, turning to God with all his prayers, he is said to have asked that power over him be given to the devil for five months, and that he might become like those whom he himself had healed. Why should I delay with many words? That man of great power, famous throughout the East for signs and mighty works, to whose threshold crowds had flocked, at whose doors the highest powers of this world had prostrated themselves, was seized by a demon and held in chains; and having suffered all those things that the possessed usually endure, in the fifth month he was cleansed, not only of the demon, but, what was more useful and more desired for him, of vanity.

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Summary: A famous exorcist, tempted by vanity, prayed to be possessed by a demon for five months and was thereby cured of pride.

Topics: Ethics, Fasting

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.20 (CSEL 1:172–173; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-20). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.21CSEL 1:173–174

Sed mihi ista replicanti nostra infelicitas, nostra occurrit infirmitas. quis enim nostrum est, quem si unus homunculus humilis salutauerit aut fatuis adque adulantibus uerbis femina una laudauerit, non continuo elatus sit superbia, non statim inflatus sit uanitate? ut, etiamsi non habeat conscientiam sanctitatis, tamen, quia uel stultorum adulatione aut fortasse errore sanctus esse dicatur, sanctissimum se putabit! iam uero si ei munera crebra mittantur, Dei se magnificentia adseret honorari, cui dormienti adque resoluto necessaria conferantur. quodsi uel de modico ei aliqua uirtutis alicuius signa succederent, angelum se putaret. ceterum cum neque opere neque uirtute conspicuus sit, si quis clericus fuerit effectus, dilatat continuo fimbrias suas, gaudet salutationibus, inflatur occursibus, ipse etiam ubique discurrit: et qui antea pedibus aut asello ire consueuerat, spumantibus equis superbus inuehitur: parua prius ac uili cellula contentus habitare erigit celsa laquearia, construit multa conclauia, sculpit ostia, pingit armaria, uestem respuit grossiorem, indumentum molle desiderat, adque haec caris uiduis ac familiaribus mandat tributa uirginibus, illa ut byrrum rigentem, haec ut fluentem texat lacernam. uerum haec describenda mordacius beato uiro Hieronymo relinquamus: ad propositum reuertamur. Tu uero, inquit Gallus meus, nescio quid Hieronymo reliqueris: ita breuiter uniuersa nostrorum instituta conplexus es, ut pauca haec tua uerba, si aequanimiter acceperint et patienter expenderint, multum eis arbitrer profutura, ut non indigeant libris posthac Hieronymi coerceri. sed tu illa potius euolue quae coeperas, et illud, quod aduersus falsam iustitiam dicturum te esse promiseras, prode documentum: nam, ut uere tibi fatear, nullo perniciosius malo intra Gallias laboramus. ita faciam, Postumianus inquit, nec te diutius tenebo suspensum.

“But as I go over these things, our unhappiness, our weakness comes to mind. For which of us is there who, if one humble little man greets him or one woman praises him with silly and flattering words, is not at once lifted up with pride, at once puffed up with vanity? So that even if he has no consciousness of holiness, yet because he is called holy, through the flattery or perhaps the mistake of fools, he will think himself most holy! And if gifts are frequently sent him, he will declare that he is honored by the magnificence of God, since necessities are supplied to him while he sleeps and takes his ease. And if any signs of any power, even a little, came to him, he would think himself an angel. Moreover, though he is conspicuous neither for work nor for virtue, if someone has been made a cleric, he at once enlarges his fringes, rejoices in greetings, is puffed up by people coming to meet him, runs about everywhere himself; and he who used to go on foot or on a donkey is carried proudly by foaming horses; formerly content to live in a small and cheap cell, he raises lofty ceilings, builds many rooms, carves doors, paints cupboards, rejects coarser clothing, desires soft garments, and lays these as tributes on dear widows and familiar virgins, one to weave him a stiff cloak, another a flowing mantle. But let us leave these things to be described more sharply by the blessed Jerome; let us return to our purpose.” “You,” said my Gallus, “I do not know what you have left to Jerome: you have summed up all the practices of our people so briefly that I think these few words of yours, if they take them calmly and weigh them patiently, will do them much good, so that they will not need to be restrained by Jerome’s books hereafter. But do you rather unfold what you had begun, and bring out that lesson which you promised to tell against false righteousness; for, to confess the truth to you, we in Gaul suffer from no more pernicious evil.” “I will do so,” said Postumianus, “and will not keep you in suspense any longer.

Matt 23:5 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Postumianus contrasts this humility with clerics in the West who grow proud of small honors and live in luxury; Gallus asks for the lesson on false righteousness.

  • The edition prints “to discuss” (disputandum) after “left to Jerome” in square brackets, marking it as spurious; it is left out. Allusion: Matt 23:5.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip; word in the editor's square brackets (deletion)): sit, i ei quis clericus → sit, si quis clericus; ubique dis currit → ubique discurrit; parua prius ac nili cellula → parua prius ac uili cellula; Hieronymo reliqueris [disputandum]: → Hieronymo reliqueris:.

Topics: Church office, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.21 (CSEL 1:173–174; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-21). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.22CSEL 1:174–175

Adulescens quidam ex Asia praediues opibus, genere clarus, habens uxorem et filium paruulum, cum in Aegypto tribunus esset et frequentibus aduersum Blembos expeditionibus quaedam eremi contigisset, sanctorum etiam tabernacula conplura uidisset, a beato uiro Iohanne uerbum salutis accepit. nec moratus inutilem militiam cum uano honore contemnere, eremum constanter ingressus breui tempore in omni genere uirtutum perfectus emicuit. potens ieiuniis, humilitate conspicuus, fide firmus facile se antiquis monachis studio uirtutis aequauerat, cum interim subiit eum cogitatio iniecta per diabolum, quod rectius esset ut rediret ad patriam filiumque unicum ac domum totam cum uxore saluaret: quod utique esset acceptius Deo, quam si solum se saeculo eripere contentus salutem suorum non sine inpietate neclegeret. istiusmodi falsae iustitiae colore superatus post quadriennium fere cellulam suam adque propositum eremita deseruit. sed ubi ad proximum monasterium, quod a multis fratribus habitabatur, accessit, causam discessionis adque consilium quaerentibus confitetur. renitentibus cunctis et praecipue loci illius abbate retinente male animo fixa sententia non potuit auelli. igitur infelici se obstinatione proripiens cum dolore omnium digressus a fratribus. uix e conspectu abscesserat, inpletur a daemone cruentasque spumas ore prouoluens suis dentibus se ipse lacerabat. deinde ad idem monasterium fratrum umeris reportatus, cum coerceri in eo inmundus spiritus non ualeret, necessitate cogente ferreis nexibus alligatur, pedes cum manibus uinciuntur: non inmerita poena fugitiuo, ut quem non cohibuerat fides, catena cohiberet. post biennium demum oratione sanctorum ab inmundo spiritu liberatus ad eremum, unde discesserat, mox regressus, et ipse correctus et aliis futurus exemplo, ne quem aut falsae iustitiae umbra decipiat aut incerta mobilitas inutili leuitate conpellat semel coepta deserere. haec uos de uirtutibus Domini, quae in seruis suis uel imitanda operatus est uel timenda, scire sufficiat. sed quia satisfeci uestris auribus, immo etiam uerbosior fui fortasse quam debui, tu modo — ad me autem loquebatur — debitum faenus exsolue, ut te de Martino tuo, ut es solitus, plura referentem, iam pridem in hoc desideriis meis aestuantibus, audiamus.

“A certain young man from Asia, very rich, of famous family, with a wife and a little son, was a tribune in Egypt; in frequent expeditions against the Blemmyes he had reached certain parts of the desert and had seen many dwellings of the saints, and he received the word of salvation from the blessed John. Without delay he despised his useless military service along with its empty honor, entered the desert steadfastly, and in a short time shone out perfect in every kind of virtue. Strong in fasting, conspicuous in humility, firm in faith, he had easily equaled the old monks in zeal for virtue, when meanwhile a thought, cast in by the devil, came over him: that it would be more right to return to his homeland and save his only son and his whole household together with his wife; that this would surely be more acceptable to God than if, content to snatch himself alone from the world, he neglected the salvation of his family, not without impiety. Overcome by such a show of false righteousness, after about four years the hermit deserted his cell and his purpose. But when he came to the nearest monastery, which was inhabited by many brothers, he confessed to those who asked the reason and plan of his departure. Though all opposed him, and especially the abbot of that place tried to hold him back, the decision wrongly fixed in his mind could not be torn away. So, rushing off in unhappy obstinacy, he left the brothers, to the sorrow of all. He had scarcely gone out of sight when he was filled by a demon, and, foaming blood at the mouth, tore himself with his own teeth. Then he was carried back on the brothers’ shoulders to the same monastery, and since the unclean spirit could not be restrained in him, of necessity he was bound with iron chains, his feet and hands fettered: no undeserved punishment for a runaway, that a chain should restrain the man whom faith had not restrained. At last, after two years, freed from the unclean spirit by the prayer of the saints, he soon returned to the desert from which he had departed, himself corrected and an example to others, that no one should be deceived by the shadow of false righteousness or be driven by uncertain fickleness and useless levity to abandon what he has once begun. Let it be enough for you to know these things about the mighty works of the Lord, which he has worked in his servants, either for imitation or for fear. But since I have satisfied your ears, indeed have perhaps been more talkative than I should, you now” (he was speaking to me) “pay the interest you owe, so that we may hear you telling more about your Martin, as you usually do; my desires have long been burning for this.”

Notes and citation

Summary: A former tribune turned hermit, persuaded by the devil to return to save his family, was possessed until he returned to the desert; Postumianus now asks Sulpicius to speak of Martin.

  • The blessed John is John of Lycopolis. The Blemmyes were a people south of Egypt.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): ferreis nexi-. bus → ferreis nexibus.

Topics: Ethics, Marriage

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.22 (CSEL 1:174–175; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-22). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.23CSEL 1:175–176

Quid? inquam, tibi de Martino meo liber ille non sufficit, quem ipse tu nosti me de illius uita adque uirtutibus edidisse? Agnosco id quidem, Postumianus inquit, neque umquam a dextera mea liber iste discedit. nam si agnoscis, ecce — et aperit librum, qui ueste latebat - en ipsum. hic mihi, inquit, terra ac mari comes, hic in peregrinatione tota socius et consolator fuit. sed referam tibi sane, quo liber iste penetrarit, et quam nullus fere in orbe terrarum locus sit, ubi non materia tam felicis historiae peruulgata teneatur. primus eum Romanae urbi uir studiosissimus tui Paulinus inuexit: deinde cum tota certatim urbe raperetur, exultantes librarios uidi, quod nihil ab his quaestuosius haberetur, siquidem nihil illo promptius, nihil carius uenderetur. hic nauigationis meae cursum longe ante praegressus, cum ad Africam ueni, iam per totam Carthaginem legebatur. solus eum Cyrenensis ille presbyter non habebat, sed me largiente descripsit. nam quid ego de Alexandria loquar? ubi paene omnibus magis quam tibi notus est. hic Aegyptum, Nitriam, Thebaidam ac tota Memphitica regna transiuit. hunc ego in eremo a quodam sene legi uidi: cui cum me familiarem tuum esse dixissem, et ab illo et a multis fratribus haec mihi iniuncta legatio est, ut, si umquam terras istas te incolumi contigissem, ea te supplere conpellerem, quae in illo tuo libro de uirtutibus beati uiri professus es praeterisse. age ergo, quia non illa a te audire desidero, quae scripta sufficiunt, illa quae tum uel propter legentium, ut credo, fastidium praeteristi, multis id una mecum a te poscentibus explicentur.

“What?” I said. “Is that book not enough for you about my Martin, which you yourself know I published about his life and miracles?” “I know it, indeed,” said Postumianus, “and that book never leaves my right hand. For if you recognize it, look” (and he opened the book, which was hidden in his clothing) “here it is. This,” he said, “has been my companion on land and sea; this has been my comrade and comforter on my whole journey. But I will tell you how far this book has penetrated, and how there is hardly any place in the world where the subject of so happy a story is not widely known. The first to bring it to the city of Rome was Paulinus, a man most devoted to you; then, when it was being snatched up eagerly by the whole city, I saw the booksellers rejoicing, because nothing brought them more profit, since nothing sold more readily or more dearly. Running far ahead of my voyage, when I came to Africa, it was already being read throughout Carthage. Only that Cyrenian presbyter did not have it, but he copied it from my gift. And what shall I say of Alexandria? There it is known to almost everyone, better than to you. It has passed through Egypt, Nitria, the Thebaid, and all the regions of Memphis. I saw it being read in the desert by a certain old man; and when I told him that I was a friend of yours, he and many brothers laid on me this commission: that if ever I reached these lands and found you safe, I should compel you to supply what you said in that book of yours you had passed over of the blessed man’s miracles. Come then: since I do not want to hear from you the things that are adequately written, let those things which you passed over then, I believe for fear of wearying readers, be set out, as many ask of you along with me.”

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Summary: Postumianus says the Life of Martin is read everywhere, from Rome and Carthage to the Egyptian desert, and asks for the stories left out of it.

  • Paulinus is Paulinus of Nola.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): mari comes,. hic → mari comes, hic; The baidam → Thebaidam.

Extrabiblical texts: Sulpicius Severus, V. Mart. (Life of Saint Martin; allusion)

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.23 (CSEL 1:175–176; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-23). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.24CSEL 1:176–177

Equidem, Postumiane, inquam, cum te iam dudum de sanctorum uirtutibus intentus audirem, tacitis ad Martinum meum cogitationibus recurrebam, merito perspiciens omnia illa, quae singuli diuersa fecissent, per unum istum facile conpleta. nam cum excelsa retuleris, quod mihi dixisse liceat pace sanctorum, nihil a te penitus audiui, in quo Martinus esset inferior. sed sicut nullius umquam cum illius uiri meritis profiteor conferendam esse uirtutem, ita illud animaduerti decet, iniqua illum cum eremitis uel etiam anachoretis condicione conferri. illi enim ab omni inpedimento liberi, caelo tantum adque angelis testibus, plane admirabilia docentur operari: iste in medio coetu et conuersatione populorum, inter clericos dissidentes, inter episcopos saeuientes, cum fere cotidianis scandalis hinc adque inde premeretur, inexpugnabili tamen aduersus omnia uirtute fundatus stetit et tanta operatus est, quanta ne illi quidem, quos ante audiuimus esse in eremo uel fuisse, fecerunt. ac si illi paria fecissent, quia iudex tam esset iniustus, ut non istum esse potiorem merito iudicaret? puta enim istum fuisse militem, qui pugnauerit in iniquo loco et tamen uictor euaserit, illos autem aeque conpone militibus, sed qui ex aequo loco aut etiam de superiore certauerint. quid ergo? etsi omnium una uictoria est, non potest omnium esse par gloria. tamen cum praeclara retuleris, a nemine retulisti mortuum suscitatum: quo uno utique necesse est confiteri Martino neminem conferendum.

“Indeed, Postumianus,” I said, “while I was listening intently to you for so long about the miracles of the saints, I kept returning in silent thought to my Martin, rightly perceiving that all those different things which individuals had done were easily accomplished by this one man. For though you told of lofty things, I heard nothing at all from you (I may say it with the leave of the saints) in which Martin was inferior. But just as I declare that no one’s power is ever to be compared with that man’s merits, so it should be noted that he is compared on unequal terms with the hermits or even the anchorites. For they, free from every hindrance, with only heaven and the angels as witnesses, are taught to do plainly wonderful things; but he, in the midst of the crowds and dealings of the peoples, among quarreling clergy, among raging bishops, pressed on this side and that by almost daily offenses, nevertheless stood grounded in a virtue unconquerable against everything, and did such things as not even those did whom we have heard to be or to have been in the desert. And even if they had done equal things, what judge would be so unjust as not to judge that he deserved to be ranked higher? For suppose he was a soldier who fought on unfavorable ground and yet came off victor, and compare them likewise to soldiers, but ones who fought on equal or even higher ground. What then? Even if all have one victory, not all can have equal glory. Moreover, though you told of splendid things, you told of no one raising the dead; in this one thing at least it must be confessed that no one is to be compared with Martin.

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Summary: Sulpicius argues that Martin equaled or surpassed the desert saints, for he worked amid hostile clergy and bishops, and he alone raised the dead.

Topics: Church office

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.24 (CSEL 1:176–177; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-24). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.25CSEL 1:177–178

nam si admirandum est, quod illum Aegyptium flamma non adtigit, hic quoque saepius imperauit incendiis. si reuoluas quod anachoretis feritas bestiarum uicta succubuit, hic familiariter et rabiem bestiarum et serpentium uenena conpescuit. quodsi illum conferas, qui inmundis spiritibus obsessos uerbi imperio aut etiam fimbriarum uirtute curabat, ne in hac quidem parte inferiorem fuisse Martinum multa documenta sunt. si etiam ad illum recurras, qui saetis suis pro ueste contectus putabatur ab angelis uisitari, cum isto angeli cotidie loquebantur. iam uero aduersus uanitatem adque iactantiam ita inuictum spiritum gessit, ut illa uitia fortius nemo contempserit, cum quidem inmundis spiritibus adflatos absens plerumque curauerit, nec solum comitibus aut praefectis, sed ipsis etiam regibus imperaret. minimum id quidem in illius uirtutibus, sed credas uelim, non solum uanitati, sed causis etiam adque occasionibus uanitatis neminem fortius repugnasse. parua quidem, sed non praetereunda dicturus sum, quia et ille laudandus est, qui summa praeditus potestate tam religiosam ad reuerentiam beati uiri ostenderit uoluntatem. memini Vincentium praefectum, uirum egregium et quo nullus sit intra Gallias omni uirtutum genere praestantior, dum Turonos praeteriret, a Martino saepius poposcisse, ut ei conuiuium in suo monasterio daret — in quo quidem exemplum beati Ambrosi episcopi praeferebat, qui eo tempore consules et praefectos subinde pascere ferebatur —: sed uirum altioris ingenii, ne qua ex hoc uanitas adque inflatio obreperet, noluisse. ergo fatearis necesse est in Martino omnium illorum, quos enumerasti, fuisse uirtutes, Martini autem in illis omnibus non fuisse.

“For if it is admirable that the flame did not touch that Egyptian, Martin too often commanded fires. If you recall that the ferocity of beasts was overcome and gave way to the anchorites, Martin, as a matter of course, checked both the rage of beasts and the venom of serpents. And if you compare him with the man who healed those possessed by unclean spirits by the command of his word or even by the power of his fringes, there is much evidence that Martin was not inferior even in this respect. If you go back to the one who, covered by his hair instead of clothing, was thought to be visited by angels, angels talked with Martin every day. Moreover, he kept a spirit so unconquered against vanity and boasting that no one has despised those vices more bravely, although he very often healed people seized by unclean spirits while absent, and gave orders not only to counts and prefects but even to kings themselves. That is the least among his virtues; but I would have you believe that no one resisted more bravely not only vanity but even the causes and occasions of vanity. I am going to tell a small thing, but one not to be passed over, because he too is to be praised who, endowed with the highest power, showed so devout a wish to honor the blessed man. I remember that the prefect Vincentius, an excellent man, than whom no one in Gaul is more eminent in every kind of virtue, when passing through Tours, often asked Martin to give him a meal in his monastery (in this he put forward the example of the blessed bishop Ambrose, who at that time was said often to entertain consuls and prefects); but Martin, a man of loftier mind, refused, lest some vanity and pride should creep in from it. So you must confess that in Martin were the virtues of all those you have listed, but Martin’s were not in all of them.”

Notes and citation

Summary: Martin matched each desert saint’s miracles and also resisted vanity, refusing even to host the prefect Vincentius at his monastery.

  • Ambrose of Milan is meant. Vincentius was praetorian prefect of Gaul about 397–400.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): absens. plerumque → absens plerumque; monasterio daretin quo → monasterio daret — in quo; necesse est m Martino → necesse est in Martino.

Topics: Ethics

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.25 (CSEL 1:177–178; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-25). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

1.26CSEL 1:178–179

Quid tu, inquit Postumianus, ita mecum? quasi non eadem tecum sentiam semperque senserim. ego uero quoadusque uiuam semper et sapiam, Aegypti monachos praedicabo, laudabo anachoretas, mirabor eremitas: Martinum semper excipiam: non illi ego audeo monachorum, certe non episcoporum quempiam conparare. hoc Aegyptus fatetur, hoc Syria, hoc Aethiops conperit, hoc Indus audiuit, hoc Parthus et Persa nouerunt, nec ignorat Armenia, Bosporus exclusa cognouit, et postremo si quis aut Fortunatas insulas aut glacialem frequentat oceanum. quo miserior est regio ista nostrorum, quae tantum uirum, cum in proximo habuerit, nosse non meruit. nec tamen huic crimini miscebo populares: soli illum clerici, soli nesciunt sacerdotes, nec inmerito nosse illum inuidi noluerunt, quia si uirtutes illius nossent, sua uitia cognouissent. horreo dicere quae nuper audiui, infelicem dixisse nescio quem, te in illo libro tuo plura mentitum. non est hominis uox ista, sed diaboli, nec Martino in hac parte detrahitur, sed fides Euangeliis derogatur. nam cum Dominus ipse testatus sit istiusmodi opera, quae Martinus inpleuit, ab omnibus fidelibus esse facienda, qui Martinum non credit ista fecisse, non credit Christum ista dixisse. sed infelices, degeneres, somnulenti, quae ipsi facere non possunt, facta ab illo erubescunt, et malunt illius negare uirtutes quam suam inertiam confiteri. uerum nobis ad alia properantibus omnis istorum memoria relinquatur: tu potius, ut iam dudum desidero, residua Martini opera contexe. At ego, inquam, arbitror rectius istud a Gallo esse poscendum, quippe qui plura nouerit — neque enim ignorare potuit magistri facta discipulus — et qui non inmerito istam uicem non solum Martino, sed etiam nobis debeat, quia ego iam librum edidi, tu hactenus Orientalium gesta memorasti: istam demum necessarii sermonis historiam Gallus euoluat, quia, ut dixi, et nobis debet loquendi uicem et Martino suo, credo, praestabit, ut non grauate illius facta commemoret.

“Why do you speak to me so,” said Postumianus, “as though I did not think the same as you, and always have? As long as I live and have my senses, I shall always proclaim the monks of Egypt, praise the anchorites, admire the hermits: Martin I shall always except; I dare not compare any monk, and certainly not any bishop, with him. Egypt confesses this, Syria has learned it, the Ethiopian has found it out, the Indian has heard it, the Parthian and the Persian know it, Armenia is not ignorant of it, the remote Bosporus has learned it, and lastly anyone who visits the Fortunate Isles or the icy ocean. All the more wretched is this region of ours, which, though it had so great a man close at hand, did not deserve to know him. Yet I will not involve the common people in this charge: only the clergy, only the priests do not know him; and not without reason did they in their envy refuse to know him, because if they had known his virtues, they would have recognized their own vices. I shudder to say what I heard lately, that some unhappy man said that you lied a great deal in that book of yours. That is not the voice of a man but of the devil; nor is Martin disparaged in this, but faith in the Gospels is detracted from. For since the Lord himself testified that works of this kind, which Martin accomplished, are to be done by all the faithful, he who does not believe that Martin did them does not believe that Christ said them. But the unhappy, degenerate, sleepy men are ashamed that he did what they themselves cannot do, and prefer to deny his miracles rather than confess their own sloth. But as we are hurrying on to other things, let all memory of them be left behind; you rather, as I have long desired, put together the rest of Martin’s works.” “But I,” I said, “think this should more rightly be asked of Gallus, since he knows more (for the disciple could not be ignorant of his master’s deeds), and not without reason he owes this turn not only to Martin but also to us; for I have already published a book, and you have so far recounted the deeds of the Easterners; let Gallus at last unfold this story that must be told, because, as I said, he owes us his turn to speak, and will, I believe, do Martin the service of recounting his deeds without reluctance.”

John 14:12 (allusion, high confidence) · Mark 16:17 (allusion, medium confidence)

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Summary: Postumianus agrees that Martin is known everywhere except among the envious clergy of Gaul, who deny his miracles; Sulpicius hands the narration to Gallus, Martin’s disciple.

  • Allusion: John 14:12; Mark 16:17–18.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): qui non; inmerito → qui non inmerito.

Topics: Church office

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.26 (CSEL 1:178–179; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-26). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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1.27CSEL 1:179–180

Ego plane, inquit Gallus, licet inpar sim tanto oneri, tamen relatis superius a Postumiano oboedientiae cogor exemplis, ut munus istud, quod inponitis, non recusem. sed dum cogito me hominem Gallum inter Aquitanos uerba facturum, uereor ne offendat uestras nimium urbanas aures sermo rusticior. audietis me tamen ut Gurdonicum hominem, nihil cum fuco aut cothurno loquentem. nam si mihi tribuistis Martini me esse discipulum, illud etiam concedite, ut mihi liceat exemplo illius inanes sermonum faleras et uerborum ornamenta contemnere. Tu uero, inquit Postumianus, uel Celtice aut, si mauis, Gallice loquere, dummodo Martinum loquaris. ego autem credo, quia, etiamsi mutus esses, non defutura tibi uerba, quibus Martinum facundo ore loquereris, sicut Zachariae in Iohannis nomine lingua resoluta est. ceterum cum sis scholasticus, hoc ipsum quasi scholasticus artificiose facis, ut excuses inperitiam, quia exuberas eloquentia. sed neque monachum tam astutum neque Gallum decet esse tam callidum. uerum adgredere potius et quod te manet explica: nimium enim dudum alias res agentes consumimus tempus, et iam solis occidui umbra prolixior monet, non multum diei uicina nocte superesse. Deinde cum paululum omnes conticuissemus, Gallus ita coepit: cauendum mihi inprimis esse arbitror, ne ea de Martini uirtutibus repetam, quae in libro suo Sulpicius iste memorauit. unde prima illius inter militandum gesta praetereo, neque ea adtingam, quae laicus egit ac monachus: nec uero audita ab aliis quam quae uidi ipse dicturus sum.

“For my part,” said Gallus, “though I am unequal to so great a burden, yet I am compelled by the examples of obedience related above by Postumianus not to refuse this task you lay on me. But when I reflect that I, a Gaul, am going to speak among Aquitanians, I fear that my rather rustic speech may offend your too refined ears. Yet you will hear me as a man of Gurdo, speaking nothing with paint or buskin. For if you have granted that I am Martin’s disciple, grant this too: that I may, after his example, despise the empty trappings of speech and ornaments of words.” “Speak,” said Postumianus, “in Celtic, or, if you prefer, in Gallic, so long as you speak of Martin. I believe that even if you were mute, words would not fail you to speak of Martin with an eloquent mouth, just as Zechariah’s tongue was loosed at the name of John. But since you are a rhetorician, you do this very thing artfully like a rhetorician, excusing your lack of skill because you overflow with eloquence. But it is not fitting for a monk to be so crafty, nor for a Gaul to be so cunning. But rather set to, and unfold what remains for you; for we have been spending time too long on other matters, and already the lengthening shadow of the setting sun warns us that not much of the day is left, with night near.” Then, when we had all been silent for a little, Gallus began thus: “I think I must take care above all not to repeat those things about Martin’s miracles which Sulpicius here recorded in his book. So I pass over his first deeds while he was a soldier, nor will I touch on what he did as a layman and as a monk; and I will tell not what I heard from others but what I saw myself.”

Luke 1:64 (allusion, high confidence)

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Summary: Gallus agrees to speak, apologizing for his rustic Gallic speech; he will tell only what he saw himself and not repeat the Life.

  • Gurdo (Gurdonicus) is a place in Gaul, used for a rustic. Allusion: Luke 1:63–64.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): inquiit Postumianus → inquit Postumianus; Gallice loquerei dummodo → Gallice loquere, dummodo; etiams mutus → etiamsi mutus.

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 1.27 (CSEL 1:179–180; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-1-27). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

Chapter 2

2.1CSEL 1:180–181

Quo primo igitur tempore relictis scholis beato me uiro iunxi, paucos post dies euntem ad ecclesiam sequebamur. interim ei seminudus hibernis mensibus pauper occurrit, orans sibi uestimentum dari. tunc ille arcessito archidiacono iussit algentem sine dilatione uestiri: dein secretarium ingressus, cum solus, ut erat consuetudo, resideret — hanc enim sibi etiam in ecclesia solitudinem permissa clericis libertate praestabat, cum quidem in alio secretario presbyteri sederent, uel salutationibus uacantes uel audiendis negotiis occupati: Martinum uero usque in eam horam, qua sollemnia populo agi consuetudo deposceret, sua solitudo cohibebat. illud non praeteribo, quod in secretario sedens numquam cathedra usus est: nam in ecclesia nemo umquam illum sedere conspexit, sicut quendam nuper, testor Deum, non sine pudore uidi sublimi solio et quasi regio tribunali celsa sede residentem. sedentem uero Martinum in sellula rusticana, ut sunt istae in usibus seruulorum, quas nos rustici Galli tripeccias, uos scholastici aut certe tu, qui de Graecia uenis, tripodas nuncupatis –: hoc secretum beati uiri pauper ille captatus, cum ei archidiaconus dare tunicam distulisset, inrupit, dissimulatum se, a clerico querens, algere deplorans. nec mora, sanctus paupere non uidente intra amphibalum sibi tunicam latenter eduxit pauperemque contectum discedere iubet. dein paulo post archidiaconus ingressus admonet pro consuetudine, exspectare in ecclesia populum, illum ad agenda sollemnia debere procedere. cui ille respondens ait, pauperem prius — de se autem dicebat — oportere uestiri: se ad ecclesiam non posse procedere, nisi uestem pauper acciperet. diaconus uero nihil intellegens, quia extrinsecus indutum amphibalo, ueste nudum interius non uidebat, postremo pauperem non conparere causatur. mihi, inquit, uestis, quae parata est, deferatur: pauper non deerit uestiendus. tum demum clericus necessitate conpulsus, iam felle commoto, e proximis tabernis bigerricam uestem, breuem adque hispidam, quinque conparatam argenteis rapit adque ante Martini pedes iratus exponit. en, inquit, uestem, sed pauper hic non est. ille nihil motus iubet eum paululum stare pro foribus, secretum utique procurans, dum sibi uestem nudus inponeret, totis uiribus elaborans ut posset occultum esse quod fecerat. sed quando in sanctis uiris latent ista quaerentibus? uelint nolint cuncta produntur. cum hac igitur oblaturus sacrificium Deo ueste procedit.

“At the very beginning, then, when I had left the schools and joined the blessed man, a few days later we were following him as he went to the church. Meanwhile a poor man, half naked in the winter months, met him, begging to be given clothing. Then Martin called the archdeacon and ordered him to clothe the shivering man without delay. Then he went into the sacristy and sat there alone, as was his custom (for he secured this solitude for himself even in the church, giving the clergy their freedom, while the presbyters sat in another sacristy, either free for receiving visitors or busy hearing business; but Martin kept to his solitude until the hour at which custom required the solemn rites to be performed for the people). I will not pass over this, that when sitting in the sacristy he never used a chair; indeed in church no one ever saw him sit, as I lately saw someone, God is my witness, not without shame, sitting on a lofty throne and a high seat like a royal tribunal. Martin, by contrast, sat on a rustic little stool, such as servants use, which we rustic Gauls call tripeccia, and you rhetoricians, or at any rate you who come from Greece, call tripods. Into this privacy of the blessed man that poor man burst, since the archdeacon had put off giving him a tunic, complaining that he had been ignored by the cleric and lamenting that he was cold. Without delay the holy man, without the poor man seeing, secretly drew the tunic off himself from under his outer cloak, covered the poor man with it, and told him to go away. Then a little later the archdeacon came in and reminded him, as was the custom, that the people were waiting in the church and that he ought to go out to perform the solemn rites. Martin answered that the poor man must first be clothed (he meant himself); he could not go to the church unless the poor man received a garment. The deacon, understanding nothing, since he did not see that Martin, covered outwardly by his cloak, was naked underneath, finally pleaded that the poor man was not to be found. ‘Let the garment that has been prepared be brought to me,’ said Martin; ‘a poor man to be clothed will not be lacking.’ Then at last the cleric, forced by necessity, his bile already stirred, snatched from the nearest shops a Bigerrian garment, short and shaggy, bought for five pieces of silver, and laid it angrily at Martin’s feet. ‘Here,’ he said, ‘is the garment, but the poor man is not here.’ Martin, not at all moved, told him to stand outside the doors for a little, contriving privacy while he, naked, put on the garment, striving with all his strength to keep hidden what he had done. But when are such things in holy men hidden from those who seek them? Willing or not, everything comes out. So he went out in this garment to offer the sacrifice to God.

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Summary: Martin secretly gives his own tunic to a poor man whom the archdeacon neglected, then celebrates in a cheap garment the archdeacon angrily buys.

  • Martin used a stool, not the bishop’s chair. A Bigerrian garment was a coarse cloak from the region of the Bigerriones (Bigorre). The amphibalus is an outer cloak.

Topics: Church office, Ethics

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 2.1 (CSEL 1:180–181; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-2-1). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

2.2CSEL 1:181–183

quo quidem die — mira dicturus sum — cum iam altarium, sicut est sollemne, benediceret, globum ignis de capite illius uidimus emicare, ita ut in sublime contendens longum admodum crinem flamma produceret. et licet celeberrimo factum die in magna populi multitudine uiderimus, una tantum de uirginibus et unus de presbyteris, tres tantum uidere de monachis: ceteri cur non uiderint, non potest nostri esse iudicii. Per idem fere tempus cum Euanthius auunculus meus, uir licet saeculi negotiis occupatus admodum Christianus, grauissima aegritudine extremo mortis periculo coepisset urgueri, Martinum euocauit. nec cunctatus ille properauit: prius tamen quam medium uiae spatium uir beatus euolueret, uirtutem aduenientis sentit aegrotus, receptaque continuo sanitate uenientibus nobis obuiam ipse processit. altera die redire cupientem magna prece tenuit, cum interim unum e familia puerum letali ictu serpens perculit: quem iam exanimem ui ueneni ipse Euanthius suis umeris inlatum ante pedes sancti uiri, nihil illi inpossibile confisus, exposuit. iamque se malum serpens per omnia membra diffuderat: cerneres omnibus uenis inflatam cutem et ad utris instar tensa uitalia. Martinus porrecta manu, uniuersa pueri membra pertractans, digitum prope ipsum uulnusculum, quo bestia uirus infuderat, fixit. tum uero — mira dicturus sum — uidimus uenenum ex omni parte prouocatum ad Martini digitum cucurrisse: dein per illud ulceris foramen exiguum ita uirus stipasse cum sanguine, ut solet ex uberibus caprarum aut ouium pastorum manu pressis longa linea copiosi lactis effluere. puer surrexit incolumis. nos obstupefacti tantae rei miraculo, id quod ipsa cogebat ueritas, fatebamur non esse sub caelo, qui Martinum possit imitari.

“On that day (I am going to tell a marvel), when he was already blessing the altar, as is the rite, we saw a globe of fire shoot out from his head, so that, rising on high, the flame drew out a very long trail. And although we saw this happen on a most crowded day in a great multitude of people, only one of the virgins, one of the presbyters, and only three of the monks saw it; why the rest did not see it is not ours to judge. At about the same time, when my uncle Evanthius, a man very Christian although occupied with the business of the world, had begun to be pressed by a very grave illness to the last danger of death, he summoned Martin. Martin hurried without delay; but before the blessed man had covered half the journey, the sick man felt the power of his coming, and, recovering his health at once, came out himself to meet us as we arrived. The next day he kept Martin, who wished to return, with great entreaty; meanwhile a serpent struck one of the household slaves, a boy, with a deadly bite. Evanthius himself carried him on his shoulders, already lifeless from the force of the venom, and laid him at the holy man’s feet, trusting that nothing was impossible for him. And by now the serpent’s poison had spread through all his limbs: you could see the skin swollen in every vein and the vital organs stretched like a wineskin. Martin stretched out his hand, felt all the boy’s limbs, and placed his finger close to the little wound itself through which the creature had injected the venom. Then indeed (I am going to tell a marvel) we saw the poison, drawn out from every part, run to Martin’s finger; then through that small opening of the wound the venom was pressed out with the blood, just as a long stream of abundant milk usually flows from the udders of goats or sheep pressed by the shepherds’ hands. The boy rose up unharmed. We, astonished at the miracle of so great a thing, confessed what the truth itself compelled us to: there is no one under heaven who can imitate Martin.

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Summary: A globe of fire is seen above Martin at the altar; he heals Gallus’s uncle Evanthius from a distance and draws snake venom out of a boy through his finger.

Topics: Eucharist

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 2.2 (CSEL 1:181–183; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-2-2). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.

2.3CSEL 1:183–184

Consequenti itidem tempore iter cum eo, dum dioeceses uisitat, agebamus. nobis nescio qua necessitate remorantibus aliquantulum ille processerat. interim per aggerem publicum plena militantibus uiris fiscalis raeda ueniebat. sed ubi Martinum in ueste hispida nigro et pendulo pallio circumtectum contigua de latere iumenta uiderunt, paululum in partem alteram pauefacta cesserunt. dein funibus inplicatis protentos illos, quibus, ut saepe uidistis, misera ipsa animalia conglobantur, ordines miscuerunt: dumque aegre expediuntur, moram fecere properantibus. qua permoti iniuria militantes praecipitatis in terram saltibus se dederunt. dehinc Martinum flagris ac fustibus urguere coeperunt, cum quidem ille mutus et incredibili patientia praebens terga caedentibus maiorem insaniam infelicibus commoueret, magis ex hoc furentes, quod ille quasi non sentiens uerbera inlata contemneret. nos ilico consecuti foede cruentum adque uniuersa corporis parte laniatum, cum exanimis in terram procubuisset, inuenimus: statimque eum asello suo inposuimus ac locum caedis illius exsecrantes raptim abire properauimus. interea illi regressi ad raedam suam furore satiato, agi quo ire coeperant, iumenta praecipiunt. quae cum omnia solo fixa ac si aenea signa riguissent, adtollentibus altius uocem magistris, flagris hinc adque inde resonantibus, nihil penitus mouebantur. consurgunt deinde omnes pariter in uerbera: consumit Gallicas mularum poena mastigias, tota rapitur silua de proximo, trabibus iumenta tunduntur, sed nihil penitus saeuae manus agebant: uno adque eodem in loco stabant fixa simulacra. quid agerent infelices homines nesciebant, nec iam ultra dissimulare poterant, quin quamlibet brutis pectoribus agnoscerent, diuino numine se teneri. tandem ergo in se regressi coeperunt quaerere, quis ille esset, quem in eodem loco ante paululum cecidissent, cum percontantes cognoscunt ex uiantibus, Martinum a se tam crudeliter uerberatum. tum uero apparere omnibus causa manifesta, nec ignorare iam poterant, quin ob illius uiri iniuriam tenerentur. igitur omnes rapidis nos passibus consequuntur. conscii facti ac meriti, pudore confusi, flentes et puluere, quo se ipsi foedauerant, caput adque ora conspersi, ante Martini se genua prouoluunt, ueniam precantes et ut eos abire sineret postulantes: satis se uel sola conscientia dedisse poenarum satisque intellexisse, quam eodem ipsos uiuos absorbere terra potuisset, uel ipsi potius amissis sensibus in inmobilem saxorum naturam rigescere debuissent, sicut adfixa locis quibus steterant iumenta uidissent: orare se adque obsecrare, ut indulgeret sceleris ueniam et copiam praestaret abeundi. senserat etiam, priusquam occurrerent, uir beatus illos teneri, nobisque id ante iam dixerat: ueniam tamen clementer indulsit eosdemque abire permisit, animalibus restitutis.

“Likewise at a later time we were traveling with him while he was visiting his parishes. We had fallen behind for some reason or other, and he had gone on a little ahead. Meanwhile along the public highway came a state wagon full of soldiers. But when the animals harnessed alongside saw Martin in his shaggy garment, wrapped in a black, hanging cloak, they shied a little to the other side in fright. Then, their traces getting tangled, they threw into confusion those long lines by which, as you have often seen, the poor animals themselves are bunched together; and while they were being disentangled with difficulty, they caused delay to men in a hurry. Provoked by this hindrance, the soldiers leaped headlong to the ground. Then they began to lay into Martin with whips and clubs; and he, silent, offering his back to those beating him with incredible patience, roused the unhappy men to greater madness, and they raged the more because he scorned the blows as though he did not feel them. We, following at once, found him foully bloodied and torn in every part of his body, where he had fallen half dead to the ground; we immediately put him on his donkey and hurried away from the place of that beating, cursing it. Meanwhile the soldiers, going back to their wagon with their fury sated, ordered the animals to be driven on where they had begun to go. But they all stood fixed to the ground as stiff as bronze statues; and though the drivers raised their voices louder and the whips cracked on this side and that, they did not move at all. Then all rise together to the beating: the punishment of the mules uses up the Gallic whips; a whole wood nearby is torn up; the animals are pounded with beams. But the savage hands achieved nothing at all: the animals stood fixed in one and the same place like statues. The unhappy men did not know what to do, nor could they any longer pretend not to recognize, brutish as their hearts were, that they were held by divine power. So at last, coming to themselves, they began to ask who he was whom they had beaten a little before in that same place, and on inquiry they learned from travelers that it was Martin whom they had beaten so cruelly. Then indeed the cause was plain to all, and they could no longer be ignorant that they were held because of the wrong done to that man. So they all follow us with rapid steps. Conscious of their deed and of their deserts, overcome with shame, weeping, their heads and faces sprinkled with the dust with which they had defiled themselves, they throw themselves at Martin’s knees, begging pardon and asking him to let them go: they had paid penalty enough even by their consciences alone, and understood well enough how the earth could have swallowed them alive on that spot, or rather they themselves ought to have lost their senses and stiffened into the immovable nature of stone, as they had seen the animals fixed to the places where they had stood; they prayed and implored him to grant pardon for the crime and give them leave to go. The blessed man had perceived even before they came up that they were held, and had told us so beforehand; yet he graciously granted pardon and let them go, the animals being restored.

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Summary: Soldiers whose wagon team shied at Martin beat him savagely; their mules then refuse to move until the soldiers find Martin and beg his pardon.

Notes on the original text

  • Digital text corrected (OCR slip): mastigias. tota rapitur silua. de proximo, trabibus → mastigias, tota rapitur silua de proximo, trabibus; conspersi, ant Martini → conspersi, ante Martini.

Topics: Persecution

Cite (SBL): Sulpicius Severus, Dial. 2.3 (CSEL 1:183–184; trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/sulpicius-dialogi/1-16/#p-2-3). (abbreviation not yet checked)

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Translation: Translated by Claude from the Latin of Halm, CSEL 1 (1866; digital text, Open Greek and Latin; corrections logged; Halm's bracketed deletions left out and noted), then compared section by section with the public-domain English of NPNF² 11 (Roberts, 1894); differences checked against the Latin.