Against Celsus 8.63

Summary: Celsus contradicts himself, now saying the demons need nothing and that God must never be abandoned, then urging Christians to win the favour of rulers and kings as appointed by demonic power.

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Greek text · Koetschau 2:278–280

Κέλσος μὲν ουν οἶμαι μετὰ τοσούτους, οὓς εἶπε περὶ δαιμόνων δεομένων κνίσσης καὶ αἵματος λόγους, ὡσπερεὶ ἐπὶ μοχθηρίαν ἐρχόμενος παλινῳδίαν φησὶν ὅτι μᾶλλον οἰητέον τοὺς δαίμονας μηδενὸς χρῄζειν μηδὲ δεῖσθαί τινος ἀλλὰ χαίρειν τοῖς τὸ εὐσεβὲς δρῶσι πρὸς αὐτούς. ἐχρῆν δʼ, εἰ τοῦτο ᾤετο εἶναι ἀληθὲς. ἐκεῖνα αὐτὸν μὴ τεθεικέναι, ταῦτα ἀπηλειφέναι. ἀλλὰ γὰρ οὐ πάντῃ ἡ ἀνθρωπίνη φύσις ὑπὸ τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τῆς μονογενοῦς αὐτῷ ἀληθείας καταλείπεται. διόπερ καὶ Κέλσος εἶπε μὲν ἐν τῷ περὶ κνίσσης καὶ αἵματος, ὧν χρῄζουσι δαίμονες. τἀληθῆ· πάλιν δʼ ὑπὸ τῆς ἰδίας κακίας κατώλισθεν ἐπὶ τὰ ψευδῆ καὶ ἐξομοιοῖ τοὺς δαίμονας ἀνθρώποις τοῖς τελέως δικαίως πράττουσι τὰ δίκαια. κἂν μηδεὶς αὐτοῖς γινώσκῃ χάριν. τὰ ἀγαθὰ δὲ ποιοῦσι τοῖς ἀμειβομένοις τὸ εὐχάριστον. δοκεῖ δέ μοι συγχεῖσθαι κατὰ τὸν τόπον καὶ ὁτὲ μὲν τὸ ἡγεμονικὸν ὑπὸ τῶν δαιμόνων ταράττεσθαι, ἔσθʼ ὅτε δὲ καὶ ἀνανήφων ἀπὸ τῆς ὑπʼ ἐκείνοις ἀλογιστίας ἐπʼ ὀλίγον τι βλέπειν τοῦ ἀληθοῦς. πάλιν γὰρ ἐπιφέρει· θεοῦ δὲ οὐδαμῇ οὐδαμῶς ἀπολειπτέον οὔτε μεθʼ ἡμέραν οὔτε νύκτωρ οὔτʼ ἐς κοινὸν οὔτʼ ἰδίᾳ λόγῳ τε ἐν παντὶ καὶ ἔργῳ διηνεκῶς. ἀλλά γε καὶ μετὰ τῶνδε καὶ χωρὶς ἡ ψυχὴ ἀεὶ τετάσθω πρὸς τὸν θεόν. ἐγὼ δʼ ἀκούω τοῦ μετὰ τῶνδε τουτέστι μετὰ τοῦ κοινοῦ καὶ μετὰ παντὸς ἔργου καὶ μετὰ παντὸς λόγου. εἶτα πάλιν ὡσπερεὶ παλαίων τῷ λογισμῷ πρὸς τὰς ἀπὸ τῶν δαιμόνων ἐκστάσεις καὶ τὰ πολλὰ νικώμενος ἐπιφέρει καὶ λέγει· εἰ ὧδε ἔχοιεν, τί τὸ δεινὸν τοὺς τῇδε ἄρχοντας εὐμενίζεσθαι, τούς τε ἄλλους καὶ τοὺς ἐν ἀνθρώποις δυνάστας καὶ βασιλέας, ὡς οὐδὲ τούτους ἄνευ δαιμονίας ἰσχύος τῶν τῇδε ἠξιωμένους; ἐν μὲν οὖν τοῖς ἀνωτέρω κατῆγεν ὅσον ἐφʼ ἑαυτῷ τὴν ψυχὴν ἡμῶν πρὸς τοὺς δαίμονας· νῦν δὲ βούλεται ἡμᾶς ἐξευμενίζεσθαι καὶ τοὺς ἐν ἀνθρώποις δυνάστας καὶ βασιλέας, ὧν ἐπεὶ μεστὸς ὁ βίος καὶ (αἱ) ἱστορίαι, νῦν οὐχ ἡγησάμην ἀναγκαῖον ἐκθέσθαι τὰ παραδείγματα.

English · Claude translation

Celsus, then, I think, after all the arguments he gave about demons needing the savour of fat and blood, makes, as it were, a recantation for the worse, and says that “one should rather think that the demons need nothing and lack nothing, but rejoice in those who act piously toward them.” If he thought this was true, he should not have set down the former things, or should have erased them. But human nature is not altogether abandoned by God and the Truth that is his Only-begotten. That is why Celsus spoke the truth about the savour of fat and blood that demons need, but then by his own wickedness slid back into falsehoods and likens the demons to men who do what is just with perfect justice, even if no one is grateful to them, while doing good to those who repay them with gratitude. He seems to me to be confused here, at times having his ruling faculty disturbed by the demons, and at other times, recovering from the irrationality under them, to see a little of the truth. For again he adds: “God must not be abandoned anywhere at all, neither by day nor by night, neither in public nor in private, in every word and deed continually; but both with these and without them let the soul always be directed toward God.” I take “with these” to mean with public life, and with every deed, and with every word. Then again, as though wrestling in his reasoning against the frenzies caused by the demons and being mostly defeated, he adds: “If this is so, what harm is there in winning the favour of the rulers here, both the others and the potentates and kings among men, since not even these have been deemed worthy of their position here without demonic power?” In what went before he tried, as far as lay in him, to bring our soul down to the demons; now he wants us to win the favour also of potentates and kings among men; and since life and history are full of examples of these, I have not thought it necessary to set them out now.

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Koetschau 2:278–280 · Paul Koetschau, ed., Origenes Werke 1–2: Gegen Celsus, GCS 2–3 (Leipzig: Hinrichs, 1899) · Greek text: P. Koetschau, Origenes Werke 1–2 (GCS 2–3, 1899), digitized by the Perseus Digital Library and published by the First Thousand Years of Greek project (Open Greek and Latin), CC BY-SA 4.0
Text
As printed in Koetschau, GCS 2–3. Manuscript variants and the editor's apparatus are not reproduced; no textual problem is noted in this passage.
Translation
Claude translation (claude-opus-5-5), 2026-09-27 · Translated by Claude from the Greek text of Koetschau, GCS 2–3; made independently of existing English translations.
Compare
Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4 (1885) (an older public-domain English translation, whole volume at CCEL; checked against ours only after ours was made)

Notes

Translation notes

  • “A recantation for the worse” renders ἐπὶ μοχθηρίαν … παλινῳδίαν: Origen holds that Celsus's earlier statement (that demons need the savour of fat and blood) was the true one and that the recantation is a slide into falsehood.

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Origen, Cels. 8.63 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/63/).

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Origen, Cels. 8.63 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/8/63/).

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