Against Celsus 7.53
Summary: Celsus mocks Christians for choosing Jesus instead of heroes like Heracles, Orpheus, Anaxarchus, Epictetus, the Sibyl, or even Jonah and Daniel.
Greek text · Koetschau 2:203–204
Μετὰ ταῦτα τοίνυν, πρὸς ἃ κατὰ δύναμιν ἀπηντήσαμεν, φησὶ πρὸς ἡμᾶς· πόσῳ δʼ ἦν ὑμῖν ἄμεινον, ἐπειδή γε καινοτομῆσαί τι ἐπεθυμήσατε, περὶ ἄλλον τινὰ τῶν γενναίως ἀποθανόντων καὶ θεῖον μῦθον δέξασθαι δυναμένων σπουδάσαι; φέρε, εἰ μὴ ἤρεσκεν Ἡρακλῆς καὶ Ἀσκληπιὸς καὶ οἱ πάλαι δεδοξασμένοι, Ὀρφέα εἴχετε, ἄνδρα ὁμολογουμένως ὁσίῳ χρησάμενον πνεύματι καὶ αὐτὸν βιαίως ἀποθανόντα. ἀλλʼ ἴσως ὑπʼ ἄλλων προείληπτο. Ἀνάξαρχον γοῦν. ὃς εἰς ὅλμον ἐμβληθεὶς καὶ παρανομώτατα συντριβόμενος εὖ μάλα κατεφρόνει τῆς κολάσεως λέγων· „πτίσσε, πτίσσε τὸν Ἀναξάρχου θύλακον, αὐτὸν γὰρ οὐ πτίσσεις“· θείου τινὸς ὡς ἀληθῶς πνεύματος ἡ φωνή. ἀλλὰ καὶ τούτῳ φθάσαντές τινες ἠκολούθησαν φυσικοί, οὐκοῦν Ἐπίκτητον; ὃς τοῦ δεσπότου στρεβλοῦντος αὐτοῦ τὸ σκέλος ὑπομειδιῶν ἀνεκπλήκτως ἔλεγε· „κατάσσεις, “ καὶ κατάξαντος „οὐκ ἔλεγον, “ εἶπεν, „ὅτι κατάσσεις;“ τί τοιοῦτον ὁ ὑμέτερος θεὸς κολαζόμενος ἐφθέγξατο; ὑμεῖς δὲ κἂν Σίβυλλαν. ᾗ χρῶνταί τινες ὑμῶν, εἰκότως ἂν μᾶλλον προεστήσασθε ὡς τοῦ θεοῦ παῖδα· νῦν δὲ παρεγγράφειν μὲν εἰς τὰ ἐκείνης πολλὰ καὶ βλάσφημα εἰκῇ δύνασθε, τὸν δὲ βίῳ μὲν ἐπιῤῥητοτάτῳ θανάτῳ δὲ οἰκτίστῳ χρησάμενον θεὸν τίθεσθε. πόσῳ τοῦδε ἐπιτηδειότερος ἦν ὑμῖν Ἰωνᾶς „ἐπὶ τῇ κολοκύντῃ“ ἢ Δανιὴλ ὁ ἐκ τῶν θηρίων ἢ οἱ τῶνδε ἔτι τερατωδέστεροι;
English · Claude translation
After this, then, to which we have replied as well as we could, he says to us: “How much better it would have been for you, since you desired to make some innovation, to have taken up with some other of those who died nobly and could receive a divine myth! Come, if Heracles and Asclepius and those glorified of old did not please you, you had Orpheus, a man admittedly possessed of a holy spirit, who also died a violent death. But perhaps he had already been taken over by others. Well then, Anaxarchus, who, thrown into a mortar and pounded most lawlessly, thoroughly despised the punishment, saying, ‘Pound, pound the bag of Anaxarchus; for him you do not pound’: the voice of a truly divine spirit. But some natural philosophers got in first and followed him too. Well then, Epictetus? When his master was twisting his leg, he said, smiling and unperturbed, ‘You will break it’; and when he had broken it he said, ‘Did I not tell you that you would break it?’ What did your god say like this while he was being punished? And you could with better reason have put forward the Sibyl, whom some of you use, as a child of God; as it is, you are able to interpolate many blasphemous things into her writings at random, and you make a god of one who lived a most infamous life and died a most pitiable death. How much more suitable for you than he would have been Jonah ‘under the gourd,’ or Daniel who came out from the beasts, or others more marvellous still than these?”
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Translation notes
- Celsus alludes to Jonah 4:6 and Dan 6. Anaxarchus of Abdera, pounded in a mortar by the tyrant Nicocreon (Origen names him Aristocreon in 7.54), and the story of Epictetus's leg were well-known anecdotes. On the Sibyl see the Sibylline Oracles.
Notes on the original text
- Digital text corrected (missing accent in the digital text): εἰκότως αν μᾶλλον → εἰκότως ἂν μᾶλλον.
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Origen, Cels. 7.53 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/53/).
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Origen, Cels. 7.53 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/53/).
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