Against Celsus 7.36
Summary: Celsus puts into Christians' mouths the claim that God can only be known by the senses and tells them to see God with the mind; Origen replies that a good speech-writer must keep his characters true to life.
Greek text · Koetschau 2:186–187
Μετὰ ταῦτα, πρὸς ἃ κατὰ τὸ δυνατὸν εἰρήκαμεν, τοιαῦτα πάλιν ὁ Κέλσος φησίν· οἱ δὲ καὶ πάλιν εἰρήσονται· πῶς αἰσθήσει μὴ καταλαμβανόμενοι γνώσονται τὸν θεόν; τί χωρὶς αἰσθήσεως μαθεῖν ἐστι δυνατόν; εἶτα πρὸς ταῦτα ἀποκρινόμενός φησιν· οὐκ ἀνθρώπου μὲν οὐδὲ τῆς ψυχῆς ἀλλὰ σαρκὸς ἡ φωνή. ὅμως δʼ οὖν ἀκουσάτωσαν, εἴ τι καὶ ἐπαΐειν δύνανται ὡς δειλὸν καὶ φιλοσώματον γένος· ἐὰν αἰσθήσει μύσαντες ἀναβλέψητε νῷ καὶ σαρκὸς ἀποστραφέντες ψυχῆς ὀφθαλμοὺς ἐγείρητε, μόνως οὕτως τὸν θεὸν ὄψεσθε. κἂν ἡγεμόνα (τῆς ὁδοῦ) ταύτης ζητῆτε, φευκτέοι μὲν ὑμῖν οἱ πλάνοι καὶ γόητες καὶ τὰ εἴδωλα προμνώμενοι· ἵνα μὴ παντάπασιν ἦτε καταγέλαστοι, τοὺς μὲν ἄλλους. τοὺς δεικνυμένους θεοὺς. ὡς εἴδωλα βλασφημοῦντες, τὸν δὲ καὶ αὐτῶν ὡς ἀληθῶς εἰδώλων ἀθλιώτερον καὶ μηδὲ εἴδωλον ἔτι ἀλλʼ (ὄντ)ως νεκρὸν σέβοντες καὶ πατέρα ὅμοιον αὐτῷ ζητοῦντες. καὶ πρῶτόν γε λεκτέον πρὸς τὴν προσωποποιΐαν αὐτοῦ. περιτιθέντος ἡμῖν λόγους ὡς ὑφʼ ἡμῶν λεγομένους εἰς τὴν περὶ ἀναστάσεως σαρκὸς ἀπολογίαν, ὅτι ἀρετὴ μὲν προσωποποιοῦντός ἐστι τηρῆσαι τὸ βούλημα καὶ τὸ ἦθος τοῦ προσωποποιουμένου, κακία δὲ, ὅτε τὰ μὴ ἁρμόζοντά τις περιτίθησι ῥήματα τῷ προσώπῳ τοῦ λέγοντος. καὶ ἐπʼ ἴσης γε ψεκτοὶ οἱ ἐν προσωποποιΐᾳ βαρβάροις καὶ ἀπαιδεύτοις ἢ οἰκότριψι καὶ μηδέ ποτε φιλοσόφων λόγων ἀκηκοόσι μηδὲ εὖ εἰρηκόσιν αὐτοὺς περιτιθέντες φιλοσοφίαν, ἣν ἔμαθε μὲν ὁ προσωποποιῶν, οὐκ εἰκὸς δὲ ἦν εἰδέναι τὸν προσωποποιούμενον, καὶ πάλιν αὖ οἱ τοῖς καθʼ ὑπόθεσιν ὑποκειμένοις σοφοῖς καὶ τὰ θεῖα ἐγνωκόσι περιτιθέντες τὰ ἀπὸ ἰδιωτικῶν παθῶν ὑπὸ ἀπαιδεύτων λεγόμενα καὶ ἀπὸ ἀγνοίας ἀπαγγελλόμενα. ὅθεν Ὅμηρος μὲν ἐν πολλοῖς θαυμάζεται, τηρήσας τὰ τῶν ἡρώων πρόσωπα, ὁποῖα αὐτὰ ὑπέθετο ἀπʼ ἀρχῆς, οἷον τὸ Νέστορος ἢ τὸ Ὀδυσσέως ἢ τὸ Διομήδους ἢ τὸ Ἀγαμέμνονος ἢ Τηλεμάχου ἢ Πηνελόπης ἤ τινος τῶν λοιπῶν· Εὐριπίδης δὲ ὑπὸ Ἀριστοφάνους κωμῳδεῖται ὡς ἀκαιροῤῥήμων διὰ τὸ πολλάκις περιτεθεικέναι λόγους δογμάτων, ὧν ἀπὸ Ἀναξαγόρου ἤ τινος ἔμαθε τῶν σοφῶν, βαρβάροις γυναιξὶν ἢ οἰκέταις.
English · Claude translation
After this, in answer to what we have said as well as we could, Celsus again says something like this: “And they will say again: How will they know God if they do not apprehend him by sense? What is it possible to learn without sense?” Then, answering this, he says: “This is the voice not of a man, nor of the soul, but of the flesh. Nevertheless, let them listen, if they are able to understand anything, cowardly and body-loving race that they are: if you close your senses and look up with the mind, and turning from the flesh awaken the eyes of the soul, only so will you see God. And if you seek a guide for this road, you must shun the deceivers and sorcerers and those who pander to idols, so that you may not be utterly ridiculous, blaspheming the others, the gods that are displayed, as idols, while worshipping one more wretched than even real idols, not even an idol any longer but truly a corpse, and seeking a father like him.” First we must say, in reply to his impersonation, in which he puts in our mouths words as though spoken by us in defence of the resurrection of the flesh, that the virtue of one who writes speeches in character is to keep the intention and the character of the person portrayed, and the fault is when someone puts words that do not fit into the mouth of the speaker. Equally blameworthy are those who, in speeches in character, put upon barbarians and uneducated people or household slaves, who have never heard philosophical discourse nor spoken well, a philosophy which the writer has learned but which the person portrayed could not be expected to know; and again those who put upon characters supposed to be wise and to know divine things what is said by the uneducated out of ordinary passions and reported out of ignorance. That is why Homer is admired in many respects, having kept the characters of the heroes as he established them from the start, for instance that of Nestor, or Odysseus, or Diomedes, or Agamemnon, or Telemachus, or Penelope, or any of the others; while Euripides is mocked by Aristophanes as one who speaks out of season, because he often put speeches of doctrines which he had learned from Anaxagoras or some other wise man into the mouths of barbarian women or slaves.
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- Celsus's words echo Plato's language about the “eye of the soul” (Republic 533d). “Truly a corpse” is Celsus's gibe at the crucified Jesus. Aristophanes' mockery of Euripides is chiefly in the Frogs.
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Origen, Cels. 7.36 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/36/).
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Origen, Cels. 7.36 (trans. Sophia Scriptura, https://sophiascriptura.com/fathers/origen-celsum/7/36/).
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